Inmates come to guard's aid in jail attack

[VC2]

Originally Posted by ABC

Absolutly Abbie. Only worked in the Jail and I would guess easier then prision nursing. The COs are usually a pain particularly the short thin gals who want to be "somebody" when they are "nobody". I love Correctional Nursing, cared about the inmates and did the best for them we could. They are sad souls. Watching how the inmates changed physically over five years was really sad and most of all the girls. Along the way, they lose their teeth, get cocaine of meth teeth, scaars, permanent injuries and just all around decline in health, Very sad but glad we were able to help them. Our nurses treated the inmates better then their own mothers. In my jail, an inmate who was in lockdown would never be placed in a Pod with the minor felony folk.

You and the other nurses here and out in public, who do correctional nursing with compassion and empathy are very special people.

I can never forget that each and every inmate, no matter what they did, had the same hopes and dreams as our little boys or little girls before they broke and shattered for a multitude of reasons. Therefore i am always more interested in why and the background of even some of the most evil..to try and understand what made them that way. Understanding is the only way to lessen violence and crime..because then we have a better chance of catching the problem before it is to late.

These inmates, a couple of made comments:

Dieguez said he is pleased to have done "what was honorable." Schofield said: "It's all about respect." Carswell saw the deputy lose color above the neck and thought: "Nobody deserves to die like that."

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/edit...-honor/1050005

I really hope guards across the country take note of what happens when you treat inmates with respect even if they don't give it to you at first. Moon should do a little talk about how he treats inmates and add it to the video so it can be sent through all the prison systems.

[Jayne]

Originally Posted by LisaM22

you said "guys who look like this", I have often wondered if I was born looking like a bad guy, would society treat me like a bad guy, would i then become.... a bad guy? would a persons odds increase of becoming a bad guy just because of their looks?

btw, I agree with your statement, as I thought the same thing too when I saw the pictures, I just wonder about it though, I wonder how many others saw the pictures and thought as we did

Lisa..that's a good point...I wonder, too, if someone who "looks" a certain way is treated a certain way..and I think they are. Look at children and adults who are physically deformed or who are autistic or downs syndrome, and such. Doesn't make them bad...but they are so often treated a certain way because of how they look..or even, perhaps a suspect, in some cases due to it. Maybe..in comes cases..the odds do increase in becoming a bad person..because they were treated a particular way due to their looks?

What I find in those photos..that is "looks like those guys"..is the "LOOK" in their eyes..the way they hold their head, etc. Physically..to me..they are not Ugly people at all..but their Attitude and the Stare or Stance is bothersome or worrisome?

This may sound very stupid..but I do believe in the saying that the Eyes are the Window to the Soul. There's so much to see in one's eyes..besides all the health things one can determine (holistic medicine, for example)..that emptiness - blankness - staring..but not looking.

without telling stories here..I've observed it..with people committing crimes..either seeing it happen or interviewing them afterwards.

jmo j

[Details]

The backgrounds are interesting - as are the photos - classic photos of defiant criminals - thugs. Not because of the shape of the face, but the expression - raised outthrust chin, anger, contempt - you wouldn't select them as having much of anything to redeem them.

And the armed home invader, attempted murderer, failure to register as a sex offender, and aggravated assault and battery guys saved him from a mere driving under the influence and drug trafficking charged guy. You'd look at the charges, and figure the reverse would be true, that the first set would be the worse people. But in this situation - they weren't.

I still wouldn't trust them for anything - doesn't change what they did - but it adds a dimension, something more than merely a thug.

[VC2]

Originally Posted by Details

The backgrounds are interesting - as are the photos - classic photos of defiant criminals - thugs. Not because of the shape of the face, but the expression - raised outthrust chin, anger, contempt - you wouldn't select them as having much of anything to redeem them.

And the armed home invader, attempted murderer, failure to register as a sex offender, and aggravated assault and battery guys saved him from a mere driving under the influence and drug trafficking charged guy. You'd look at the charges, and figure the reverse would be true, that the first set would be the worse people. But in this situation - they weren't.

I still wouldn't trust them for anything - doesn't change what they did - but it adds a dimension, something more than merely a thug.

Yes, it certainly does. It reminds us they are human and have some core decency..their words remind us of that too.

I think the decision to provide letters to their attorney's not just in their files, deliberately suggesting they can be given to the judge (clearly to help get a lesser sentence) was a wise one. The upside is twofold.

First, it is the right thing to do. They cannot give them gifts etc., this is the only thing they can do that would have meaning. I also believe that some may attempt to become better people too now they see they can be proud of themselves for something.

Secondly, perhaps more important to society, is that it tells inmates throughout prisons and jails that if they behave properly they will not be treated like dung. In fact they will be given the thanks or praise when it is deserved. That in itself might lower more violence in prisons/jails against guards and health care people. If the cost of that is knocking off a few years from a hero's sentence, it is cheap at the price.

IMO

[birdwatch]

Originally Posted by Details

The backgrounds are interesting - as are the photos - classic photos of defiant criminals - thugs. Not because of the shape of the face, but the expression - raised outthrust chin, anger, contempt - you wouldn't select them as having much of anything to redeem them.

And the armed home invader, attempted murderer, failure to register as a sex offender, and aggravated assault and battery guys saved him from a mere driving under the influence and drug trafficking charged guy. You'd look at the charges, and figure the reverse would be true, that the first set would be the worse people. But in this situation - they weren't.

I still wouldn't trust them for anything - doesn't change what they did - but it adds a dimension, something more than merely a thug.

I find it interesting that the aggressor wasn't even in jail for anything violent - he was in for DUI and drug trafficking. I guess he got violent when he got there. He attacked a fellow prisoner and was in solitary for that; but clearly they weren't expecting further trouble from him - at least not violence toward a guard. I don't know if its just the picture
but Burden looks like he is a huge man!