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Thank you for clarifying......you understand how the "except" seemed a bit odd in the answer.
Hope you know I was just asking and not attacking.
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No problem. I simply worded it wrong. We just take care of our own problems and don't think it's the government's job to take care of them 
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No problem. I simply worded it wrong. We just take care of our own problems and don't think it's the government's job to take care of them |
Nothing wrong with that.
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"They're drinking the juice" - BO to MO after he made a rousing speech. http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/February-2009/The-Making-of-a-First-Lady/
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Yes, once again, he distorts what Net Neutrality is.......he starts with a false premise.......
If he wanted to argue what people in the administration want, that is fine.....but to spin Net Neutrality into something other than free speech online is just absurd.
I don't know if he believes the stuff he is saying or trying to scare those people that have no clue and just accept what he says as fact.
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FCC Approves Proposed Net Neutrality Rules
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But critics charge that the plan is another power grab by the government.
"These new rules should rightly be viewed by consumers suspiciously as another government power grab over a private service provided by private companies in a competitive marketplace," Sen. John McCain wrote in an opinion article published by The Washington Times.
"Does this sound familiar? It should," McCain said, comparing the proposal to the federal bailout of Wall Street and the auto industry.
McCain argued that a government takeover of the Internet will "stifle innovation" and "hinder job creation," noting that the technology industry is the fastest-growing job market behind health care.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...est=latestnews
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FCC Approves Proposed Net Neutrality Rules
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But critics charge that the plan is another power grab by the government.
"These new rules should rightly be viewed by consumers suspiciously as another government power grab over a private service provided by private companies in a competitive marketplace," Sen. John McCain wrote in an opinion article published by The Washington Times.
"Does this sound familiar? It should," McCain said, comparing the proposal to the federal bailout of Wall Street and the auto industry.
McCain argued that a government takeover of the Internet will "stifle innovation" and "hinder job creation," noting that the technology industry is the fastest-growing job market behind health care.
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There is no comparison between the bailout of Wall Street and the auto industry.......
this has nothing to do with throwing money at anyone.....FCC already in 2005 claimed to have authority to regulate such communication.....yes 2005. Seems again to use false analogy to tie into network neutrality to scare people, or give them the wrong impression.
But regardless IMO it does the opposite by increasing innovation, like VoIP since someone can come up with and know that it will work all over the internet.....instead of a ISP that has it's own VoIP and decides to block or downgrade a competitor's VoIP client by filter source packets......net neutrality by allowing innovation will also create jobs....
I'll leave you with a fun clip from Jon Stewart.
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There is no comparison between the bailout of Wall Street and the auto industry.......
this has nothing to do with throwing money at anyone.....FCC already in 2005 claimed to have authority to regulate such communication.....yes 2005. Seems again to use false analogy to tie into network neutrality to scare people, or give them the wrong impression.
But regardless IMO it does the opposite by increasing innovation, like VoIP since someone can come up with and know that it will work all over the internet.....instead of a ISP that has it's own VoIP and decides to block or downgrade a competitor's VoIP client by filter source packets......net neutrality by allowing innovation will also create jobs....
I'll leave you with a fun clip from Jon Stewart.
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It's the continuous overreaching of this regime to exercise government control over every aspect of our lives, and over the free markets, which concerns and alarms those of us who reject these power grabs.
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It's the continuous overreaching of this regime to exercise government control over every aspect of our lives, and over the free markets, which concerns and alarms those of us who reject these power grabs.
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Again 2005 under the last regime was when the FCC first took steps to take over and control the internet.
I didn't hear objections then......but I'm for network neutrality.....because for me free speech, and individual freedom trumps corporations as the Founding Fathers intended.
And this is not unlike a telephone company not carrying phone calls for a competitor......when you are allowed to make phone calls, and the quality of the phone call at the option of an ISP.
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Again 2005 under the last regime was when the FCC first took steps to take over and control the internet.
I didn't hear objections then......but I'm for network neutrality.....because for me free speech, and individual freedom trumps corporations as the Founding Fathers intended.
And this is not unlike a telephone company not carrying phone calls for a competitor......when you are allowed to make phone calls, and the quality of the phone call at the option of an ISP.
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Let's simply agree to disagree because we obviously have different views re this regime, which appears to me to resemble a thugocracy in its attempts to stifle free speech and to marginalize and create class wars against those who disagree with its policies.
The Founding Fathers didn't advocate government control. In fact, the Republic was borne out of rebellion to government control.
For me, it's primarily a matter of trust, and BO hasn't instilled any in me. By his own words he has outlined his agenda and ultimate goal to "fundamentally transform America" and to establish economic and social justice. He is anti-capitalism. He stands for everything which is anti-America.
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Let's simply agree to disagree because we obviously have different views re this regime, which appears to me to resemble a thugocracy in its attempts to stifle free speech and to marginalize and create class wars against those who disagree with its policies.
The Founding Fathers didn't advocate government control. In fact, the Republic was borne out of rebellion to government control.
For me, it's primarily a matter of trust, and BO hasn't instilled any in me. By his own words he has outlined his agenda and ultimate goal to "fundamentally transform America" and to establish economic and social justice. He is anti-capitalism. He stands for everything which is anti-America.
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We can agree to disagree......
On that note I'll leave you with a quote from Thomas Jefferson....
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Let's simply agree to disagree because we obviously have different views re this regime, which appears to me to resemble a thugocracy in its attempts to stifle free speech and to marginalize and create class wars against those who disagree with its policies.
The Founding Fathers didn't advocate government control. In fact, the Republic was borne out of rebellion to government control.
For me, it's primarily a matter of trust, and BO hasn't instilled any in me. By his own words he has outlined his agenda and ultimate goal to "fundamentally transform America" and to establish economic and social justice. He is anti-capitalism. He stands for everything which is anti-America.
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SO its mainly this regime that bothers you? It will be OK in the future for the FCC to pick up efforts for control, started during the Bush regime, if the GOP is back in power and contol?
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Hey Paula.......another quote from Thomas Jefferson I'd like for you to read.....
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So did Jefferson believe that the government had a duty to protect the People against corporate abuse? Or not? Notice he talks about restriction against monopolies.
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theal! way over the top! you are offending all of us that have children that have ADD. i know, it's a shame, my poor son with ADD finished HS in the top 2% of his class and was accepted to a top 10 US school of business. Just had ESPN call him for an interview for an internship after his 2nd year of college. Poor boy!
And my poor DD, with her ADD, has a 3.5 average in high school and put in 350 hours of volunteer time this summer. Now going to school and working every day. Poor child!
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If I remember right, Theal was a school teacher.
I also think her post was offensive on various levels.
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I am going to make this short and sweet..The only reason people even watch Glenn Beck is because he is a train wreck..you know the need for people to laugh, oogle or just snicker...Glen Beck is a nutbar who loves his exposure..unfortunately..its only because he is a clown who everybody wants to laugh at..has nothing to do with his rationale..He is so off the wall..I think he basks in the limelight for all the wrong reasons....course this is just my opinon..but given things I have read and polls I have seen..GB along with Rush are not making any dint in Common Sense..Most know of what they speak..and for me it is non-sense and only attention seeking..sensationalism at its best...Course Fox has already gone to court to claim they are not a "News Station"..so take it only as Entertainment..and most do just that!!
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Hope Beck gets well soon. Talk about a coincidence though.
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Hope Beck gets well soon. Talk about a coincidence though.
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Is he sick?
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I looked on his site - said he wasn't feeling so well and Pat Gray continued the radio show. Hope he does't have H1N1 - giving him one more thing to blame on President Obama.
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I looked on his site - said he wasn't feeling so well and Pat Gray continued the radio show. Hope he does't have H1N1 - giving him one more thing to blame on President Obama.
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Judge Andrew Napolitano is hosting the TV program. He introduced the show saying Glenn had appendicitis. I wish him a speedy recovery.
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"For Thrillers, Glenn Beck Is Becoming New Oprah "
"Virtually every novelist in America fantasizes about being picked to appear on Oprah Winfrey’s talk show. But now an increasing number of writers have discovered a new champion: Glenn Beck, the outspoken media darling of populist conservatism."
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Get well soon Glenn
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I hope he has a better experience this time than when he had his hemorrhoid surgery.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8dsqLDtfWQ
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Wow. Pretty harsh comments on that site, IMO. Wishing for anyone to die isnt acceptable, in my view. But then, I dont hate just for the sake of hating.
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I guess when Liz Cheney appears on Rachel Maddows show.....because Liz just doesn't have a chance to debate.
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I agree with you, Narcissist .... I think that's why she refuses to appear ....
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Wow. Pretty harsh comments on that site, IMO. Wishing for anyone to die isnt acceptable, in my view. But then, I dont hate just for the sake of hating.
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Very harsh comments on there. I think Beck brings out the worst in some people.
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Very harsh comments on there. I think Beck brings out the worst in some people.
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He may. But then those making the comments are just as bad as he is, since they accuse him of spreading hate and all that. Guess thats why I stay away from that kind of stuff. Everyone has the right to voice an opinion, but to actually wish death on another...thats beyond free speech, IMO.
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He may. But then those making the comments are just as bad as he is, since they accuse him of spreading hate and all that. Guess thats why I stay away from that kind of stuff. Everyone has the right to voice an opinion, but to actually wish death on another...thats beyond free speech, IMO.
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I didn't read many of the comments because they were bad. But the video of Beck and the things he was says is weird imo. I guess he never sued anyone like he threatened to do.
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As I stated above I hope Beck gets well soon......
but I had to share this Jon Stewart Comedy Central parody.
The 11/3 Project
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As I stated above I hope Beck gets well soon......
but I had to share this Jon Stewart Comedy Central parody.
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That is hilarious!
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It was pretty funny.......I thought the Guy Fawkes segment was funny on Colbert Report.......but I didn't link it here....I'm sure some will find it more offensive. But check it out if you want.
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Oh, the new South Park "Dancing with Smurfs" is too too funny and right on when it comes to Glenn Beck.....
Anyway, good episode to check out Season 13, Episode 13.
Like the coincidence with the 13 as well.
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As I stated above I hope Beck gets well soon......
but I had to share this Jon Stewart Comedy Central parody.
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Funny- thanx for the link.
I watch a few minutes of Beck now and then and I even bought both of his books at Costco, I'm somewhat ashamed to admit. The books are amusing even though the concepts are crap IMO.
I can't stand to watch him for more than 10 minutes though. I think he's really wrongheaded and corny. He's another one of the current crop of celebrities that make me think that Americans don't like to really think about anything, they just want to be entertained.
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Funny- thanx for the link.
I watch a few minutes of Beck now and then and I even bought both of his books at Costco, I'm somewhat ashamed to admit. The books are amusing even though the concepts are crap IMO.
I can't stand to watch him for more than 10 minutes though. I think he's really wrongheaded and corny. He's another one of the current crop of celebrities that make me think that Americans don't like to really think about anything, they just want to be entertained.
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 lunchlady. I don't watch Beck. Have not since he made an insulting remark about Justice Sonia.
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ITA, ABC. He's not the best comedian I have ever watched.
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Funny- thanx for the link.
I watch a few minutes of Beck now and then and I even bought both of his books at Costco, I'm somewhat ashamed to admit. The books are amusing even though the concepts are crap IMO.
I can't stand to watch him for more than 10 minutes though. I think he's really wrongheaded and corny. He's another one of the current crop of celebrities that make me think that Americans don't like to really think about anything, they just want to be entertained.
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Are you not American? What an insult to the American people to think that we don't "like to really think about anything" and just want to be entertained.
While I may agree or disagree with my fellow Americans, I certainly won't lump them all together thinking I am the only smart one in the room.
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I am going to make this short and sweet..The only reason people even watch Glenn Beck is because he is a train wreck..you know the need for people to laugh, oogle or just snicker...Glen Beck is a nutbar who loves his exposure..unfortunately..its only because he is a clown who everybody wants to laugh at..has nothing to do with his rationale..He is so off the wall..I think he basks in the limelight for all the wrong reasons....course this is just my opinon..but given things I have read and polls I have seen..GB along with Rush are not making any dint in Common Sense..Most know of what they speak..and for me it is non-sense and only attention seeking..sensationalism at its best...Course Fox has already gone to court to claim they are not a "News Station"..so take it only as Entertainment..and most do just that!!
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Are you not American? What an insult to the American people to think that we don't "like to really think about anything" and just want to be entertained.
While I may agree or disagree with my fellow Americans, I certainly won't lump them all together thinking I am the only smart one in the room.
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Sure, I'm an American. But the ability to analyze and critique doesn't seem to have improved much in spite of all our access to education and information. It seems likes its gone the other way. Plenty of smart educated people, some of them sweeping floors or whatever, but too many of them are watching reality shows and depending on received "wisdom" IMO.
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