Nicholas Francisco 10/12 - 11/8

Musterion · #1 11-05-2009, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverDove

Maybe the people who really know Christine and Nicholas don't see any inconsistencies. Maybe they saw things that they never said anything about in posts or in the news out of respect. Maybe it is only people who don't know them who find inconsistencies.

I know that many things have posted about me, my life and my motives for even posting here that don't even resemble reality but people who don't know me would swear they are true by what they read here and how then interpreted it. I'm sure that you aren't like what I'm beginning to see you as because of your writing.

Maybe the people close to Christine do see the inconsistencies. And, maybe they have questions.

It's okay if you dislike me or what I say. It won't stop me from questioning what I see as questionable behaviour and/or inconsistencies of a missing person's spouse.

IMO.
M.

SilverDove · #2 11-05-2009, 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Musterion

Maybe the people close to Christine do see the inconsistencies. And, maybe they have questions.

It's okay if you dislike me or what I say. It won't stop me from questioning what I see as questionable behaviour and/or inconsistencies of a missing person's spouse.

IMO.
M.

I don't dislike you and I don't think you should stop but I do find a lot of things you do and say very odd. Don't think that means you had anything to do with Nicholas vanishing.

What I am saying it it is not that easy to tell what a persons behavior is from a few posts and a few minutes on tv. If you could be arrested for misspeaking I would have spent my whole life in jail and then some. We have even less to go on about Nicholas since all most all of it comes from Christine.

From the posts I have read from friends of Nicholas many of them started seeing odd things in Nicholas behavior that they had missed not the other way around. Most of them seem to like Christine.

To you many things appear dark and evil in what Christine did, to me they say that she learned things that made her believe her marriage wasn't what she thought it was and she moved on for the sake of herself and her children. It is all in how you want to view what few pieces of information there are and all of them in the end come from Christine.

Cury-us Coyote · #3 11-05-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverDove

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From the posts I have read from friends of Nicholas many of them started seeing odd things in Nicholas behavior that they had missed not the other way around. Most of them seem to like Christine.

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Can you share where the friends of NF & CFC posts are? TIA

SilverDove · #4 11-05-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cury-us Coyote

Can you share where the friends of NF & CFC posts are? TIA

Why so you can all go there and post venom like was done to the blog where there was a sympathetic post about Christine? Like has been done to every other blog by a friend of Christine and/or Nicholas to the point most of them are closed to the public?

But there was the one by the guy who was doing the work on Christine's extra room. The people who gave her a home when she needed it. The people who took in her dog when she wasn't able to take care of it. The man who married her even though she had 3 kids already. The people at Nicholas work place who gave her a shower. The co-worker of Nicholas who never once posted anything bad about Christine no matter how hard people dug for it on another forum.

Musterion · #5 11-05-2009, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverDove

Why so you can all go there and post venom like was done to the blog where there was a sympathetic post about Christine? Like has been done to every other blog by a friend of Christine and/or Nicholas to the point most of them are closed to the public?

But there was the one by the guy who was doing the work on Christine's extra room. The people who gave her a home when she needed it. The people who took in her dog when she wasn't able to take care of it. The man who married her even though she had 3 kids already. The people at Nicholas work place who gave her a shower. The co-worker of Nicholas who never once posted anything bad about Christine no matter how hard people dug for it on another forum.

IMO it is a reflection more on the hearts of the people helping Christine out then on whether they like her.

For every person you are bringing up there is a person who has spoken out negatively about Christine.

The person who was in a play group with her. The person who went to Art School with her. People on Etsy who sold alongside with her and were in chats with her.

Since you mentioned the man who married her. Again, I find the timing of that questionable. Where and when did they meet? Where was he the night Nicholas disappeared?

These are avenues that are logically investigated in every other case. Why not for Nicholas Francisco's case?

IMO.
M.

Cury-us Coyote · #6 11-05-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverDove

Why so you can all go there and post venom like was done to the blog where there was a sympathetic post about Christine? Like has been done to every other blog by a friend of Christine and/or Nicholas to the point most of them are closed to the public?

But there was the one by the guy who was doing the work on Christine's extra room. The people who gave her a home when she needed it. The people who took in her dog when she wasn't able to take care of it. The man who married her even though she had 3 kids already. The people at Nicholas work place who gave her a shower. The co-worker of Nicholas who never once posted anything bad about Christine no matter how hard people dug for it on another forum.

Thank you for responding. I asked because I had just re-read the YH thread and came away with a different impression. IF the ‘one by the guy who was doing the work on Christine's extra room’ is the 30-page YH thread started by c, my impression was a one-to-many pro vs con relationship. The thread starter was in my estimation supportive of CFC but many posters indicated negative perceptions ie ‘guano crazy nag’ etc. Others noted I am apparently unfamiliar with and can not comment. Did everyone mentioned know both of the Francisco’s before Nicholas’ disappearance? TIA

Will you be attending the upcoming McBride/Scully murder trial to learn more about the friend finder culture in Washington and how LE investigated that aspect?

SilverDove · #7 11-05-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cury-us Coyote

*snip, snip*

Will you be attending the upcoming McBride/Scully murder trial to learn more about the friend finder culture in Washington and how LE investigated that aspect?

Huh? Does this have some secret meaning? Or is it just some kind of insider joke? Or just more proof of what I've been saying about people not having a clue of what they are reading and creating false ideas based on their own imaginations?

RainyNiteNTx · #8 11-05-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverDove

Huh? Does this have some secret meaning? Or is it just some kind of insider joke? Or just more proof of what I've been saying about people not having a clue of what they are reading and creating false ideas based on their own imaginations?

(bold by me)
Hmmmmm sounds like you just did this yourself lol.

Casspian · #9 11-06-2009, 08:57 PM

The fact still remains that it is far more probably that Nicholas could have met with foul play due his extra curricular adult life than through anything having to do with Christine. But, in order the probabilities are:

He Walked
He met with foul play (someone(s) he met online)
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Possible suicide
He met with foul play (Christine, based on uncomfirmed selling of his personal stuff in garage sale, that people donated money to her, and that he was way too late to come home and bake cookies so she lied )

So, the logical course is to go with the last option

oh, wait, even if it isn't logical, it's a lot more engaging because it's sort of like gossiping

Musterion · #10 11-05-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverDove

I don't dislike you and I don't think you should stop but I do find a lot of things you do and say very odd. Don't think that means you had anything to do with Nicholas vanishing.

What I am saying it it is not that easy to tell what a persons behavior is from a few posts and a few minutes on tv. If you could be arrested for misspeaking I would have spent my whole life in jail and then some. We have even less to go on about Nicholas since all most all of it comes from Christine.

From the posts I have read from friends of Nicholas many of them started seeing odd things in Nicholas behavior that they had missed not the other way around. Most of them seem to like Christine.

To you many things appear dark and evil in what Christine did, to me they say that she learned things that made her believe her marriage wasn't what she thought it was and she moved on for the sake of herself and her children. It is all in how you want to view what few pieces of information there are and all of them in the end come from Christine.

We have more than a few minutes of posts and visual of CFC.

Every day, in every courthouse in this country a person sits on a bench, with a gavel wearing a black robe. This person, judge, listens to dozens of cases. Merely minutes in some of these cases. Has never met the accused. Yet, makes a judgment, pronounces a sentence based on what is heard in those few moments.

It is possible to understand when someone lies. Even if you do not know them.

There is truth, SD. It isn't always in how it is viewed. IMO.

Christine lied. The first lie that I could back up with verification was when she insisted not just to me or to others personally, or on blogs/boards was that LE told her to not talk about the case because it would jeopardize the case. LE said they had NOT said that.

Lying about what the police said should be a red flag to anyone. IMO.

Also, please don't put words in my mouth and say that I see many things about Christine as dark and evil. I do not view Christine as evil, I do not see many things about her as dark. I consistently state that I believe Christine knows more about Nicholas' disappearance than she is letting on. Is that evil or dark? Until I know what it is, I can't say.

IMO.
M.

SilverDove · #11 11-05-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Musterion

We have more than a few minutes of posts and visual of CFC.

Every day, in every courthouse in this country a person sits on a bench, with a gavel wearing a black robe. This person, judge, listens to dozens of cases. Merely minutes in some of these cases. Has never met the accused. Yet, makes a judgment, pronounces a sentence based on what is heard in those few moments.

It is possible to understand when someone lies. Even if you do not know them.

There is truth, SD. It isn't always in how it is viewed. IMO.

Christine lied. The first lie that I could back up with verification was when she insisted not just to me or to others personally, or on blogs/boards was that LE told her to not talk about the case because it would jeopardize the case. LE said they had NOT said that.

Lying about what the police said should be a red flag to anyone. IMO.

Also, please don't put words in my mouth and say that I see many things about Christine as dark and evil. I do not view Christine as evil, I do not see many things about her as dark. I consistently state that I believe Christine knows more about Nicholas' disappearance than she is letting on. Is that evil or dark? Until I know what it is, I can't say.

IMO.
M.

Sorry if you didn't "say" that but you sure have appeared to feel that way to me. JMO

So every single officer who might have talked to Christine has checked in and none of them ask her not to say anything? Also if it has some how been proven that not one officer ask Christine not to say anything then why is that always used as the excuse for why his family don't seem to care if anyone is looking for him or bother to look?

Do you also know that Christine hasn't told LE everything that she knows? Are you sure that she is keeping secrets from them? In the end does it really matter if a bunch of woman on the internet have all the hot and juicy details or is it important that the police have them?

I believe that at some point Nicholas is going to be found alive and I'm also guessing that some people here will still be trying to defend him as the injured one. jmo

Musterion · #12 11-05-2009, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SilverDove

Sorry if you didn't "say" that but you sure have appeared to feel that way to me. JMO

So every single officer who might have talked to Christine has checked in and none of them ask her not to say anything? Also if it has some how been proven that not one officer ask Christine not to say anything then why is that always used as the excuse for why his family don't seem to care if anyone is looking for him or bother to look?

Do you also know that Christine hasn't told LE everything that she knows? Are you sure that she is keeping secrets from them? In the end does it really matter if a bunch of woman on the internet have all the hot and juicy details or is it important that the police have them?

I believe that at some point Nicholas is going to be found alive and I'm also guessing that some people here will still be trying to defend him as the injured one. jmo

I think the lead detective who responded to my email would know if Christine had been asked to keep quiet on the case.

It's a lie, SD. Either LE is lying or Christine is lying. And, I don't believe anyone has asked LE if Nicholas' family is to keep quiet. Maybe they have requested his family to do so. But, I do know that it was asked if Christine was to not discuss the case and they said they had not asked her to keep quiet.

A bunch of women on the internet seem to be what LE calls 'the public' and that is who they asked to help. It is who Christine asked to help.

It would depend on Nicholas' situation if he is found alive, whether he would be extended sympathy or not, IMO. Until then, yes, I will do what is done and should be done in missing person's cases and that is to speak for someone who may very well be dead and cannot defend themselves.

IMO.
M.

SilverDove · #13 11-05-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Musterion

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A bunch of women on the internet seem to be what LE calls 'the public' and that is who they asked to help. It is who Christine asked to help.

Note to self remember never never never to ask for help from 'the public' especially if this is "help"

Casspian · #14 11-06-2009, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverDove

Note to self remember never never never to ask for help from 'the public' especially if this is "help"

Amen!

Starkist · #15 11-06-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SilverDove

Note to self remember never never never to ask for help from 'the public' especially if this is "help"

Likewise.

RainyNiteNTx · #16 11-06-2009, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Musterion

I think the lead detective who responded to my email would know if Christine had been asked to keep quiet on the case.

It's a lie, SD. Either LE is lying or Christine is lying. And, I don't believe anyone has asked LE if Nicholas' family is to keep quiet. Maybe they have requested his family to do so. But, I do know that it was asked if Christine was to not discuss the case and they said they had not asked her to keep quiet.

A bunch of women on the internet seem to be what LE calls 'the public' and that is who they asked to help. It is who Christine asked to help.

It would depend on Nicholas' situation if he is found alive, whether he would be extended sympathy or not, IMO. Until then, yes, I will do what is done and should be done in missing person's cases and that is to speak for someone who may very well be dead and cannot defend themselves.

IMO.
M.

It didn't seem to be a problem for a bunch of women on ETSY to man a message board for 24 hours straight day after day in order to coordinate money and food - only seems to be a problem if the case of Nicholas Francisco missing is being discussed. Odd, isn't it?

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Musterion · #18 11-06-2009, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RainyNiteNTx

It didn't seem to be a problem for a bunch of women on ETSY to man a message board for 24 hours straight day after day in order to coordinate money and food - only seems to be a problem if the case of Nicholas Francisco missing is being discussed. Odd, isn't it?

That is a really good point, Rainy.

IMO.
M.