HaLeigh 2/5

[M*KAY]

New thread.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

[M*KAY]

That is what I have gathered here this evening. I am open (as always) to being corrected. Tina...the one who drove Misty to the last drug deal, had Misty's "stuff" in her car and drove away as Misty and Ron were being arrested. LOL. This can't get any better/worse. IMO

I would hope LE retrieved Misty's items from Tina's car.
I wonder if she was interrogated/questioned and not charged with anything. :confused:

[M*KAY]

ITA. What would they charge her with? Whatever it was, she would have been in and out of the revolving doors. JMO

Hey Jackie! :seeya: Long time no see.

Misty isn't going anywhere now. Not without giving up everything she knows.

It's past time... IMO

MOO

[JackieBlu]

Hey Jackie! :seeya: Long time no see.

Misty isn't going anywhere now. Not without giving up everything she knows.

It's past time... IMO

MOO

Hi MKAY, thanks for the new thread and LTNS. Just needed to take a break.

True on Misty isn't going anywhere now; was just responding to why they never arrested her earlier.

I also hope LE has Misty's items from Tina's car. From listening to the tapes today Tina is Katrina; that's why Misty was telling her parents they would need to ask TN how to reach her.

My question is....what was she doing with MC and RC the night they were arrested??

JMO

[just4justice]

Misty is accustomed to always having things her way. Her family knows she has the info about Haleigh and is telling her to give it up. Why isn't she? Is she complicit? Is she holding back because she is afraid to reveal who it is? She blew the whistle on Tommy for burglaries so why wouldn't she blow him in if she knows he abducted Haleigh? She seemed arrogant to me when she said "I don't know nothin'" and yet she knows telling the truth maybe the only thing to get her a lesser sentence. She said she may tell something.........hmmmmmmmm. I've said before and I'll say again, she was not at the home the night HaLeigh disappeared. I believe the primary reason she isn't admitting to that is she knows what Ron would do to her (as in kill her). As for Ron, I'm certain he wasn't involved and LE seems satisfied with his being at work. The idea that it happened before he went to work seems pretty absurd in light of people having seen her until at least 7:00. I'm betting much will be revealed over the next couple of weeks and hopefully we will learn exactly what happened to little HaLeigh.

[Mimi428]

Hi MKAY, thanks for the new thread and LTNS. Just needed to take a break.

True on Misty isn't going anywhere now; was just responding to why they never arrested her earlier.

I also hope LE has Misty's items from Tina's car. From listening to the tapes today Tina is Katrina; that's why Misty was telling her parents they would need to ask TN how to reach her.

My question is....what was she doing with MC and RC the night they were arrested??

JMO

Is Katrina the person Ron was working for - trimming trees? Maybe she gave him a ride to the store to meet up with Misty, then planned on giving both of them a ride somewhere after their 'business' was finished? I got the impression that Misty, Ron & the UC had already scheduled a meeting place & time in advance, so I can see how it is possible that Misty could have left her possessions in another vehicle & just took herself & the money to the other vehicle to conduct the drug transaction.

MOO

[DramaQueen]

MKay thanks for the new thread this am! Good morning, all! JackieBlu! Good to see you, you have been missed!

Gotta catch up, but I sent another email to LP this am, begging him not to post Misty's bail, I saw where he has been in touch with TJ Hart wanting to know if the Croslin clan was being evicted, and how much they owed to be able to stay in the MH. I am not sure how I feel about tha, except to say that I hope Lindsey still takes the kids to the other place her grandfather has.

[HouseOfClark]

Misty's Lawyer Says Nay To Cobra Bailing Her Out!

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=64718343001#/Misty+Croslin+Speaks+to+Friends%2C+Family+from+Jai l/64908838001



I wonder if he feels the same about Padilla.

BTW, is Katrinia Hope Sykes mom, anyone?

Yes she is.

[HouseOfClark]

Is Katrina the person Ron was working for - trimming trees? Maybe she gave him a ride to the store to meet up with Misty, then planned on giving both of them a ride somewhere after their 'business' was finished? I got the impression that Misty, Ron & the UC had already scheduled a meeting place & time in advance, so I can see how it is possible that Misty could have left her possessions in another vehicle & just took herself & the money to the other vehicle to conduct the drug transaction.

MOO

I can't imagine why she would agree to give Misty a ride anywhere. Ron had no problem driving his own vehicle during the buys/sales, IIRC it's even mentioned in the police reports.

It just seems odd that her very own daughter was involved in this trafficking, she's giving Misty rides....and then speeds off when she sees what's going down.

And this was after the divorce when Ron and Misty were *cough* not seeing each other.

JMO

[DramaQueen]

Misty's Lawyer Says Nay To Cobra Bailing Her Out!

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?bctid=64718343001#/Misty+Croslin+Speaks+to+Friends%2C+Family+from+Jai l/64908838001



I wonder if he feels the same about Padilla.

BTW, is Katrinia Hope Sykes mom, anyone?

In theory, IMO, saying no to Cobra bailing her out is the same thing as saying no to Padilla, because Cobra was only acting as Padilla's spokesperson, he wasn't offering the bail money himself. So I assume that her lawyer wants her right where she is. But did you hear her say she had some information she could give him if he DID bail her out? It said inaudible, but I heard it very plainly.

She's gonna break, give her another week or two. She will be hysterical by then. And ready to talk, to make whatever deal she can. Timing will be critical, IMO, in the days ahead, LE and everyone will have to gauge it carefully, and be on their toes.

[Mimi428]

I can't imagine why she would agree to give Misty a ride anywhere. Ron had no problem driving his own vehicle during the buys/sales, IIRC it's even mentioned in the police reports.

It just seems odd that her very own daughter was involved in this trafficking, she's giving Misty rides....and then speeds off when she sees what's going down.

And this was after the divorce when Ron and Misty were *cough* not seeing each other.

JMO

I really don't see anything (yet!) particularly strange about Katrina driving away. If she wasn't part of the drug deal in the first place, she was free to go. And I have seen police busts where they very specifically tell people who are not in the middle of being arrested to get the h#ll OUT of there - or they WILL be arrested for interfering.

The one thing I do think is telling is that it seems pretty obvious that Katrina knew that her own daughter, Hope - & Ron were still hanging around with Misty. Or Misty was hanging around with them, whichever.

JMO

[Justice4all]

In theory, IMO, saying no to Cobra bailing her out is the same thing as saying no to Padilla, because Cobra was only acting as Padilla's spokesperson, he wasn't offering the bail money himself. So I assume that her lawyer wants her right where she is. But did you hear her say she had some information she could give him if he DID bail her out? It said inaudible, but I heard it very plainly.

She's gonna break, give her another week or two. She will be hysterical by then. And ready to talk, to make whatever deal she can. Timing will be critical, IMO, in the days ahead, LE and everyone will have to gauge it carefully, and be on their toes.

BBM she might be okay by then if she gets her chips and honey buns

[Mimi428]

Figures tied to Haleigh's case expect prison time

http://www.ocala.com/article/20100205/ARTICLES/2051007/1402/NEWS?p=1&tc=pg

Go to page two, Misty's attorney speaks about the release of the audio tapes - then speaks about the offer to bail her out on page 3.

Palatka attorney Robert Fields, who represents Misty Croslin, told The Sun on Thursday that "the new developments are unfortunate. My goal is to do what I can for Misty."

"As her lawyer, it's not how I wanted to start my day," Fields added in regard to the release of the audio recordings.

Fields said Thursday he would advise Misty Croslin to reject Leonard Padilla's offer. "I'm going to advise her against it because I think it would really hurt her," Fields said.

Not how he wanted to start his day - no kidding!

How much y'all want to bet that his client will not be agreeing with him that getting bailed out by Padilla would hurt her?

I think she has made it obvious she wants out, but I doubt she would agree to LP's conditions.

JMO

[Mimi428]

BBM she might be okay by then if she gets her chips and honey buns

Plus, if the info she gave is correct & they started her on Zoloft (or Prozac, or whatever), she may calm down significantly.

JMO

[datacop]

Figures tied to Haleigh's case expect prison time

http://www.ocala.com/article/20100205/ARTICLES/2051007/1402/NEWS?p=1&tc=pg

Go to page two, Misty's attorney speaks about the release of the audio tapes - then speaks about the offer to bail her out on page 3.

Palatka attorney Robert Fields, who represents Misty Croslin, told The Sun on Thursday that "the new developments are unfortunate. My goal is to do what I can for Misty."

"As her lawyer, it's not how I wanted to start my day," Fields added in regard to the release of the audio recordings.

Fields said Thursday he would advise Misty Croslin to reject Leonard Padilla's offer. "I'm going to advise her against it because I think it would really hurt her," Fields said.

Not how he wanted to start his day - no kidding!

How much y'all want to bet that his client will not be agreeing with him that getting bailed out by Padilla would hurt her?

I think she has made it obvious she wants out, but I doubt she would agree to LP's conditions.

JMO


Ummm. Am I putting too much into this? Her own lawyer is saying that her telling the truth about HaLeigh would really hurt her (Misty). I'll say it again Ummm.

ETA: With the new charges wonder what their maximum prison time would be.

[CFMom]

Ummm. Am I putting too much into this? Her own lawyer is saying that her telling the truth about HaLeigh would really hurt her (Misty). I'll say it again Ummm.

I caught that too! Its like if she tells the truth then ding dong she is caught :ohmy:

[Elle]

In theory, IMO, saying no to Cobra bailing her out is the same thing as saying no to Padilla, because Cobra was only acting as Padilla's spokesperson, he wasn't offering the bail money himself. So I assume that her lawyer wants her right where she is. But did you hear her say she had some information she could give him if he DID bail her out? It said inaudible, but I heard it very plainly.

She's gonna break, give her another week or two. She will be hysterical by then. And ready to talk, to make whatever deal she can. Timing will be critical, IMO, in the days ahead, LE and everyone will have to gauge it carefully, and be on their toes.

Not surprising he does not want to let her bailed out w/ cobra/padilla. They had conditions and those conditions will/could hurt his client. I don't think her lawyer wants her in jail, just not opening her mouth to anyone but him.
imoo

[whitney]

Katrina being there bothers me I hope they weren't getting the prescriptions from her or perhaps others in the family KWIM. That could be what GGMS was worried about. She seems to tell RC what she wants to. He asked for his chain and she tells him NO. IMO RC and MC have been involved in selling drugs for a while now and it seems as though they knew. IIRC Katrina is the one that went to the MH with GGMS that night with clean laundry.HMMMM I wonder if that is all they went there with? Maybe that could be why Misty would have left that night and why they covered for her. JMO

[Ladygator]

Figures tied to Haleigh's case expect prison time

http://www.ocala.com/article/20100205/ARTICLES/2051007/1402/NEWS?p=1&tc=pg

Go to page two, Misty's attorney speaks about the release of the audio tapes - then speaks about the offer to bail her out on page 3.

Palatka attorney Robert Fields, who represents Misty Croslin, told The Sun on Thursday that "the new developments are unfortunate. My goal is to do what I can for Misty."

"As her lawyer, it's not how I wanted to start my day," Fields added in regard to the release of the audio recordings.

Fields said Thursday he would advise Misty Croslin to reject Leonard Padilla's offer. "I'm going to advise her against it because I think it would really hurt her," Fields said.

Not how he wanted to start his day - no kidding!

How much y'all want to bet that his client will not be agreeing with him that getting bailed out by Padilla would hurt her?

I think she has made it obvious she wants out, but I doubt she would agree to LP's conditions.

JMO

I noticed a huge difference between the Casey and Misty vids.

Misty really wants to get outta jail. Bad!

She whines about not being able to do anything, her little cell, how horrible it all is. She sniffles and cries!!! She's dying to get out!!!

ITA that she will not be taking her lawyers advice. If Lenny and crew show up with bail papers, she'll sign and walk out.

[Mimi428]

Ummm. Am I putting too much into this? Her own lawyer is saying that her telling the truth about HaLeigh would really hurt her (Misty). I'll say it again Ummm.

ETA: With the new charges wonder what their maximum prison time would be.

I don't know for certain that her attorney was trying to say it would hurt her to tell the truth about Haleigh.

I think he may have been casting a broad net over how the 'being bailed out by Padilla' scenario could hurt her. I just did not get the impression that he was saying telling the truth about Haleigh would be the hurt - but being in the clutches of Padilla would not benefit her. And I agree with that assessment, because LP getting involved with Misty's day-to-day life would probably not solve the mystery of where Haleigh is or what happened to her.

IOW, the driving force behind the bail offer is that Lenny wants the exposure, wants to be attached to this high profile case & Misty's attorney recognizes that.

JMO

[Elle]

Figures tied to Haleigh's case expect prison time

http://www.ocala.com/article/20100205/ARTICLES/2051007/1402/NEWS?p=1&tc=pg

Go to page two, Misty's attorney speaks about the release of the audio tapes - then speaks about the offer to bail her out on page 3.

Palatka attorney Robert Fields, who represents Misty Croslin, told The Sun on Thursday that "the new developments are unfortunate. My goal is to do what I can for Misty."

"As her lawyer, it's not how I wanted to start my day," Fields added in regard to the release of the audio recordings.

Fields said Thursday he would advise Misty Croslin to reject Leonard Padilla's offer. "I'm going to advise her against it because I think it would really hurt her," Fields said.

Not how he wanted to start his day - no kidding!

How much y'all want to bet that his client will not be agreeing with him that getting bailed out by Padilla would hurt her?

I think she has made it obvious she wants out, but I doubt she would agree to LP's conditions.

JMO

I am somewhat surprised where he knows she has not taken his advise in the past, that he is still willing to represent her. It must really suck to have your client admit on tape for all to hear, that she sold 8 or nine times. You can't put those worms back in the can.

Then to have to advise against a bail out because you know the conditions would/could bury your client.

imo

[Motomom]

Ummm. Am I putting too much into this? Her own lawyer is saying that her telling the truth about HaLeigh would really hurt her (Misty). I'll say it again Ummm.

ETA: With the new charges wonder what their maximum prison time would be.

Isn't this the same lawyer that dumped Misty once before for talking? Or did I imagine that? I might have LOL.. When Misty gets wind that Lenny will bail her out.. She may tell the truth..she wants out!! it may take a few more weeks though.. when the phonecalls cant be made and only letters are going back and forth.

[datacop]

Isn't this the same lawyer that dumped Misty once before for talking? Or did I imagine that? I might have LOL.. When Misty gets wind that Lenny will bail her out.. She may tell the truth..she wants out!! it may take a few more weeks though.. when the phonecalls cant be made and only letters are going back and forth.


I agree that there could be other conditions from LP that would hurt Misty, but that's the one LP talked about last night on NG.

Since I missed most of the CA soap opera, I don't have the same references as others.


eta Okay I'm up too early -- can't even quote the right post. This was suppose to be quoting Mimi's #26.

[Mimi428]

Isn't this the same lawyer that dumped Misty once before for talking? Or did I imagine that? I might have LOL.. When Misty gets wind that Lenny will bail her out.. She may tell the truth..she wants out!! it may take a few more weeks though.. when the phonecalls cant be made and only letters are going back and forth.

No, you didn't imagine that! LOL. I think Fields is anticipating needing some major painkillers himself if he continues to represent her, because it seems apparent that Misty is going to do what Misty wants to do - no matter what her attorney advises.

I can see Fields going to visit her & giving her the stern warning to NOT be calling everyone willy-nilly & carrying on - & then as soon as he leaves... she will make another phone call.

JMO

[Mimi428]

I agree that there could be other conditions from LP that would hurt Misty, but that's the one LP talked about last night on NG.

Since I missed most of the CA soap opera, I don't have the same references as others.


eta Okay I'm up too early -- can't even quote the right post. This was suppose to be quoting Mimi's #26.

It's all good, I'm following what you are saying. Carry on, drink some coffee.

[HouseOfClark]

Katrina being there bothers me I hope they weren't getting the prescriptions from her or perhaps others in the family KWIM. That could be what GGMS was worried about. She seems to tell RC what she wants to. He asked for his chain and she tells him NO. IMO RC and MC have been involved in selling drugs for a while now and it seems as though they knew. IIRC Katrina is the one that went to the MH with GGMS that night with clean laundry.HMMMM I wonder if that is all they went there with? Maybe that could be why Misty would have left that night and why they covered for her. JMO

I'm questioning the warning about the snitch myself. I thought the goal of "low level" dealers was to point LE in the direction of the bigger fish in order to reduce their own charges/sentences.

Why would anyone in the Cummings family not want that - if they truly believe that Ron was just a tagalong, "drug into that by Misty"?

Who is the big fish here?

And if she was referring to not talking about Haleigh, why? If he's got nothing to hide, he was at work, he doesn't know anything....what can he say that a snitch would be interested in?

[Mimi428]

You have a point. Katrinia is Mrs. Sykes's daughter and Teresa's sister. Were they all oblivious to what was going on re the drug use and sales? I tend to doubt that.

moo

I share that doubt with you. And Crystal Cummings, Ron's sister, has also had her own problems with drugs, IIRC.

[HouseOfClark]

Isn't this the same lawyer that dumped Misty once before for talking? Or did I imagine that? I might have LOL.. When Misty gets wind that Lenny will bail her out.. She may tell the truth..she wants out!! it may take a few more weeks though.. when the phonecalls cant be made and only letters are going back and forth.

Same one.

IMO, Misty's gonna say anything that she thinks somebody wants to hear.

Whether that's the "truth" or not is anybody's guess.

[DramaQueen]

I'm questioning the warning about the snitch myself. I thought the goal of "low level" dealers was to point LE in the direction of the bigger fish in order to reduce their own charges/sentences.

Why would anyone in the Cummings family not want that - if they truly believe that Ron was just a tagalong, "drug into that by Misty"?

Who is the big fish here?

And if she was referring to not talking about Haleigh, why? If he's got nothing to hide, he was at work, he doesn't know anything....what can he say that a snitch would be interested in?


could the next bigger fish in the food chain be Jerome?

[HouseOfClark]

could the next bigger fish in the food chain be Jerome?

Jerome was in jail himself when all these deals were going on, wasn't he?

I'm thinking closer......

JMO

[Mimi428]

I'm questioning the warning about the snitch myself. I thought the goal of "low level" dealers was to point LE in the direction of the bigger fish in order to reduce their own charges/sentences.

Why would anyone in the Cummings family not want that - if they truly believe that Ron was just a tagalong, "drug into that by Misty"?

Who is the big fish here?

And if she was referring to not talking about Haleigh, why? If he's got nothing to hide, he was at work, he doesn't know anything....what can he say that a snitch would be interested in?

Yeah, I'm still pondering on all of that, too. Look at the phone call comparisons - Misty's family is blabbing right & left, even to the point of questioning her & tell her to fess up to anything she may know. They also ask her about her charges & she talks a bit about them.

OTOH, the Cummings family talks to Ron about keeping quiet, don't say anything to anyone, a snitch is - or might be - around.

Something NOT right about that scenario & I really do not think they were warning Ron to not talk about the drug busts. There is no way I believe that the Cummings family does NOT know that Ron was caught by an undercover operation & that the transactions were on audio & video. Those tapes are what is going to bury him in court - what could a snitch possibly even find out regarding the drug busts that would benefit LE? They've already GOT all they need in evidence, in that regard.

JMO

[HouseOfClark]

We Are ALL Going To Prison!

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100205/ARTICLES/2051002/1002?p=2&tc=pg

From your link:

Authorities and family members have said they hope the arrests lead to a break in the Haleigh case.

Yeah, but don't say anything on account of the snitch!

[TobyWong]

Good Morning All!
Usually I dont watch ng anymore but last night it was on while i was working so I could hear some of misty's tapes and heard her whining about starving. I was so mad that whoever(i think Timmy's wife) was actually concerned.Then there goes nancy w/ misty's menu and her pathetic picture on the menu. Loved it!! misty just likes to cry for herself. Its part of her game and how she's gotten away w/ living the way she does.jmo

And I swear john talent (sp?) sound so familiar. The minute it was posted I've been trying to figure it out. ??

I believe tommy and misty are in this together, about Haleigh.imo. Maybe she left the kids w/ tommy and he had them back and forth walking the cut through between his place and rons place. But all this stuff w/ LE calls at tommys and tommy saying he was there at 10 pm. Lots of mini pieces of info that all surround that night and just so happens the same night Haleigh goes missing.
Have a great day all!

[DramaQueen]

We Are ALL Going To Prison!

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100205/ARTICLES/2051002/1002?p=2&tc=pg


the family who deals together serves together

wonder if Hank Sr will get any time for his charges when he goes to court, next week, isn't it? This is just getting to be too much

[DramaQueen]

Jerome was in jail himself when all these deals were going on, wasn't he?

I'm thinking closer......

JMO


tell me who I am dying to know what you think

yes he was in jail while these recent transactions were occuring, but I was thinking about earlier, since I really don't believe the players decided overnight to deal drugs, IMO, it ahs probably been going on for a while now, and surely Jerome has someone still "taking care of bidness" for him while he is away

who do you think it might be?

[DramaQueen]

Flashback to May 14, 2009

http://www.bloggernews.net/120885


Ironic that on Jan. 19,2010, Jerome is removed from St. John's prison where he was incarcerated for months, and shares prison space with one Ron Cummings. Coincidence?

kinda makes you go hmmmmmmmmmm

[HouseOfClark]

tell me who I am dying to know what you think

yes he was in jail while these recent transactions were occuring, but I was thinking about earlier, since I really don't believe the players decided overnight to deal drugs, IMO, it ahs probably been going on for a while now, and surely Jerome has someone still "taking care of bidness" for him while he is away

who do you think it might be?

I don't have an opinion on any one individual, but I don't think they're referring to any of the Croslins and not wanting them to find out Ron told on any of them.

JMO though.

It was a very strange remark to make though. And "Pop" is Ron's dad, Jack Lester (TN's EX husband) still in contact with GGS?

[Elle]

From your link:



Yeah, but don't say anything on account of the snitch!

I see the telling of a snitch to mean not to talk to other inmates about the charges and any involvement/admission. I don't see the snitch comment as having anything to do with Haleigh.

I see the family members hoping that this leads to info about Haleigh as meaning they are hoping LE will be able to get somewhere.

I don't see that they are related.

imo

[?noanswer]

Flashback to May 14, 2009

http://www.bloggernews.net/120885


Ironic that on Jan. 19,2010, Jerome is removed from St. John's prison where he was incarcerated for months, and shares prison space with one Ron Cummings. Coincidence?

Not really. He was brought back for his trial, but it was rescheduled for 2-17.

JMO

[?noanswer]

I don't have an opinion on any one individual, but I don't think they're referring to any of the Croslins and not wanting them to find out Ron told on any of them.

JMO though.

It was a very strange remark to make though. And "Pop" is Ron's dad, Jack Lester (TN's EX husband) still in contact with GGS?

I thought GGM said TN said Pop said to tell RC. Might not have anything to do with either Haleigh or the drugs. Just a reminder that there are snitches in every prison. JMO

[HouseOfClark]

I see the telling of a snitch to mean not to talk to other inmates about the charges and any involvement/admission. I don't see the snitch comment as having anything to do with Haleigh.

I see the family members hoping that this leads to info about Haleigh as meaning they are hoping LE will be able to get somewhere.

I don't see that they are related.

imo

Oh yes, far better to tell a reporter - on tape - that you're going to prison thereby making an admission?

[HouseOfClark]

I thought GGM said TN said Pop said to tell RC. Might not have anything to do with either Haleigh or the drugs. Just a reminder that there are snitches in every prison. JMO

No doubt, but why is that their main concern?

And Ron's response was so non-chalant, "Yeah, I know"

JMO

[HouseOfClark]

I'm thinking "Pop" is Teresa's boyfriend Jeff. Didn't Mrs. Sykes refer to him as Pop Jeff around the time of the Xmas video?

I don't know and why would he be concerned about snitches either way?

[TBO]

man, 74 years, Misty, honey? I know you're not good at math, let me help you here, 74+18=92.

soooooooo 10% of that would be?????:confused: LOL

morning everyone, happy friday!

[Elle]

Oh yes, far better to tell a reporter - on tape - that you're going to prison thereby making an admission?

Its common advice to keep your mouth shut in jail, for many reasons. Snithches don't just snitch to guards, but also other inmates and it could be dangerous to open your mouth. I just think it was warning to not talk to other inmates about the charges.

He was careful on tape to add 'that I'm accused of doing'.

imo

[CANDYKISSES]

I'm questioning the warning about the snitch myself. I thought the goal of "low level" dealers was to point LE in the direction of the bigger fish in order to reduce their own charges/sentences.

Why would anyone in the Cummings family not want that - if they truly believe that Ron was just a tagalong, "drug into that by Misty"?

Who is the big fish here?

And if she was referring to not talking about Haleigh, why? If he's got nothing to hide, he was at work, he doesn't know anything....what can he say that a snitch would be interested in?

I don't know if I believe they could be talking about HaLeigh, I just can't go there at this time based on what we've seen and heard.

I will believe it's highly likely there are missteps along the way that a decent attorney might get thrown out in one hearing. The PCSO doesn't have a great history when it comes to making the charges stick as we've seen before. I still say they're talking about keeping silent on the drug activity period. If I'm wrong, so be it, but I still believe the family is not covering for someone who may have or could have murdered a child. JMO again and nothing more. :sad:

I truly wish someone in this fiasco was talking about LAST FEBRUARY and HALEIGH. :wub:

[Mimi428]

Oh yes, far better to tell a reporter - on tape - that you're going to prison thereby making an admission?

Right-O.

Anything a snitch might say could be beaten down by a good attorney in court. The case could be made that the snitch is simply making up stuff, hoping his own troubles would be reduced by talking about somebody else's charges.

But that approach wouldn't be effective against an audio tape of Ron's own words to a reporter.

JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

I don't know and why would he be concerned about snitches either way?

Here's another thought House, just maybe they have someone on the inside who will claim they have info on HaLeigh (SET UP AGAIN) and will try to get RC to go even further to get himself into an iron clad prison sentence when in fact they have no info to help whatsoever?

I would be telling my child not to talk to anyone if their own lawyer didn't do so. It's easy to listen and turn such info over to your attorney IMO, but not so easy to undo other things once you've been set up and walked into a trap.

I'm still not sold on RC being an active party to HaLeigh going missing, but could easily believe his actions or those of Misty contributed to her missing status. JMO.

While admittedly these crimes are not about HALEIGH CUMMINGS, I am a firm believer the current circumstances are in place to allow PCSO to solve her missing status.:wub:

[?noanswer]

Someone made a motion to consolidate RC's charges for trial.

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

2010-02-03 12 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL

Hank, JR's activity

2010-02-03 8 INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (4G - 14G)
2010-02-03 9 MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52
2010-02-03 10 ORDER TRANSFERRING CASE TO DIV 52
2010-02-03 11 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL

Same motion to consolidate on Misty.



JMO

[DramaQueen]

soooooooo 10% of that would be?????:confused: LOL

morning everyone, happy friday!

LOL happy friday to you too! we are bracing for another huge winter storm! the commute home will be challenging to say the least!

[Mimi428]

I see it differently. LE has all they need re the drug charges. A snitch doesn't need to amplify to help their case. Ron's warning was to keep quiet about other matters.


moo

I am seeing it the same way. The testimony of the UC is going to carry much more weight with a jury than anything a snitch could ever say about overhearing Ron talk about drugs & drug charges & drug use & drug sales & buys & trafficking. LE doesn't need snitch info to make the drug charges stick - it seems they have pretty much everything they need, with whipped cream, nuts & a cherry on top to make the charges stick in court.

The subject where a snitch could help LE is in the Haleigh case.

JMO

[TBO]

LOL happy friday to you too! we are bracing for another huge winter storm! the commute home will be challenging to say the least!

yea, it's just missing us here in CT.....phew!! good luck to you on your ride home friend! Stay safe.

I wasn't able to listen to the whole jailhouse recordings so i'm going to check them out now.....

[Saint Viva]

I have been following this case from day one and can recall a John Merchant, but not a John Talent, or whatever that persons name is, its too soon to be picking random people with similar names like that in PCSO and trying to make it related to this case, I am sure someone could contact Art and he could ask Mistys parents-

As for Annette telling Ron to be careful about a snitch- I dont even know what to say except its incredibly shady and it stinks. And as for Misty being with Tina Sykes Belcher- its just getting shadier by the moment concerning Rons side of the family-

jmo

[CANDYKISSES]

I see it differently. LE has all they need re the drug charges. A snitch doesn't need to amplify to help their case. Ron's warning was to keep quiet about other matters.


moo

What other matters? :confused:

[Elle]

I see it differently. LE has all they need re the drug charges. A snitch doesn't need to amplify to help their case. Ron's warning was to keep quiet about other matters.


moo

Snitches don't just snitch to guards, but other inmates and it could be dangerous. I agree w/ you about LE, if they have what they say they have they, they need nothing more. We disagree the snitch comment was about Haleigh, though I think I im in the minority on that one...I often stand alone:smile:
imo

[CANDYKISSES]

I have been following this case from day one and can recall a John Merchant, but not a John Talent, or whatever that persons name is, its too soon to be picking random people with similar names like that in PCSO and trying to make it related to this case, I am sure someone could contact Art and he could ask Mistys parents-

As for Annette telling Ron to be careful about a snitch- I dont even know what to say except its incredibly shady and it stinks. And as for Misty being with Tina Sykes Belcher- its just getting shadier by the moment concerning Rons side of the family-

jmo

What has made you think John Tallent is somehow related to LE? :confused:

[?noanswer]

Another coinkydink? Nah!!

If you look up his activity on PSCO site, you will see things have been happening in JW's case since he was arrested. He has a lot of activity on it. He has been in jail since about May of '09 and spent most of the time away from PC. The trial for the 19th was scheduled way before the time that MC and RC was accussed of selling drugs.


JMO

[Saint Viva]

What has made you think John Tallent is somehow related to LE? :confused:

I am confused too Candy because I just reread by post 5 times and not once did I say John Tallent, or Talon, or whoever is a cop.

Oh, I see what you are saying now, reading yesterdays thread, someone was trying to insinuate its some 54 year old sitting in jail, and I think thats wrong, I hope thats ok!

[Mimi428]

Check out AH's latest!

Thanks for the tip. I'm glad AH has clarified that he has nothing to do with all the talk about Padilla trying to get Misty's bail paid.

[HouseOfClark]

Here's another thought House, just maybe they have someone on the inside who will claim they have info on HaLeigh (SET UP AGAIN) and will try to get RC to go even further to get himself into an iron clad prison sentence when in fact they have no info to help whatsoever?

I would be telling my child not to talk to anyone if their own lawyer didn't do so. It's easy to listen and turn such info over to your attorney IMO, but not so easy to undo other things once you've been set up and walked into a trap.

I'm still not sold on RC being an active party to HaLeigh going missing, but could easily believe his actions or those of Misty contributed to her missing status. JMO.

While admittedly these crimes are not about HALEIGH CUMMINGS, I am a firm believer the current circumstances are in place to allow PCSO to solve her missing status.:wub:

But their info on Haleigh would 1) have to be true and 2) be of concern for Ron and the rest of the Cummings family.

ITA with your last sentence.

IMO, just in light of a missing child it was a bizarre statement to make.

[HouseOfClark]

I am confused too Candy because I just reread by post 5 times and not once did I say John Tallent, or Talon, or whoever is a cop.

Oh, I see what you are saying now, reading yesterdays thread, someone was trying to insinuate its some 54 year old sitting in jail, and I think thats wrong, I hope thats ok!

John being half of the "John and Linda"?

Talent/Talon being the one Misty wanted to hear from and her mom told her he wasn't coming or going to write?

[jewel6]

i havent followed this case in a while but i watched nancy last night. :ohmy: This is getting stranger by the minute. can someone refresh my memory as why misty is in st johns county jail and Ron is in palatka? TIA

[TobyWong]

Jerome was in jail himself when all these deals were going on, wasn't he?

I'm thinking closer......

JMO

Like a maternal aunt? who has mistys stuff and whose own daughter has been arrested for this case.? Who also employes ron, whose own mother (ggm) warns ron about snitches? which I believe are about the drug charges not Haleigh, because imo the whole family has a stake in who gets caught up in this net and who prolly count on ron for income/product. JMO.
and yes i said "prolly"

I do find it interesting that mistys whole family is telling her to tell the truth. That lindsey "is'nt talking" but not one thing about ron.? I feel her own family is putting pressure exactly where it needs to be. They are all suffering from Haleighs disappearance and not for love but for their own dysfunctional lives have been taken over by it. moo

also imo ron and misty thinking their phones are bugged is only for drug business. imo they were concerned from the the go about their business. More so than Haleigh.

[Saint Viva]

John being half of the "John and Linda"?

Talent/Talon being the one Misty wanted to hear from and her mom told her he wasn't coming or going to write?

But did Misty say "John Talent/Talon/Tellon or was it just "Talent" or whatever? I got the feeling these were all 3 different people- John- Linda- Talon-

[Motomom]

I see the telling of a snitch to mean not to talk to other inmates about the charges and any involvement/admission. I don't see the snitch comment as having anything to do with Haleigh.

I see the family members hoping that this leads to info about Haleigh as meaning they are hoping LE will be able to get somewhere.

I don't see that they are related.

imo

I agree. Furthermore, if LE thought that that comment was meant for Haleigh, I don't think they would have released it.

[HenLee]

I noticed a huge difference between the Casey and Misty vids.

Misty really wants to get outta jail. Bad!

She whines about not being able to do anything, her little cell, how horrible it all is. She sniffles and cries!!! She's dying to get out!!!

ITA that she will not be taking her lawyers advice. If Lenny and crew show up with bail papers, she'll sign and walk out.
She would never make it to her car. Padilla's terms are she must tell him where Haleigh is. If Misty knows where Haleigh is she would be re-arrested for having conspired to hide information or worse. So what has Misty to gain by Padilla or anyone putting up bond on drug charges???

[TobyWong]

I have been following this case from day one and can recall a John Merchant, but not a John Talent, or whatever that persons name is, its too soon to be picking random people with similar names like that in PCSO and trying to make it related to this case, I am sure someone could contact Art and he could ask Mistys parents-

As for Annette telling Ron to be careful about a snitch- I dont even know what to say except its incredibly shady and it stinks. And as for Misty being with Tina Sykes Belcher- its just getting shadier by the moment concerning Rons side of the family-

jmo

I remembered Merchant but when the Tallen/Talent name came up it just stuck w/ me as maybe a name that appeared early on but i have no idea just stuck w/ me. Maybe this guy was the UC and misty hasnt figured it out yet, until she realized he wasnt going to call or write??IDK

[Saint Viva]

I remembered Merchant but when the Tallen/Talent name came up it just stuck w/ me as maybe a name that appeared early on but i have no idea just stuck w/ me. Maybe this guy was the UC and misty hasnt figured it out yet, until she realized he wasnt going to call or write??IDK

Toby, I thought the same thing, maybe he introduced the UC to Misty, because someone had to! jmo

[Motomom]

Snitches don't just snitch to guards, but other inmates and it could be dangerous. I agree w/ you about LE, if they have what they say they have they, they need nothing more. We disagree the snitch comment was about Haleigh, though I think I im in the minority on that one...I often stand alone:smile:
imo

You aren't alone.. just not reading more into it. The calls were redacted.

They have been around Ron this entire year, if they were covering for him, they wouldn't have to tell him to keep quiet on a recorded call.. They've had a year to tell him that, where as the drug bust just happened and they hadn't a chance to even see him yet.. so telling him to keep quiet was in regards to the drugs IMO.. and nobody here knows how deep this drug dealing goes, who else is involved or anything. Le said there would be more arrests but I dont' think we've heard of any that were connected yet besides these 5..

[HouseOfClark]

I disagree. LE redacted what they wanted from those tapes. They left the "snitch" tidbit in there for a reason.

Regardless (although I happen to agree with you), what wasn't redacted showed true colors as far as what these 'inmates' have as priorities. Chains, boxer shorts, showers, card playing, honeybuns, cell phone minutes.....

JMO

[TobyWong]

I dont know about any of you but to me it feels like we WILL learn what happened to Haleigh. Since these arrests it seems like we've had a lot more info released by LE. Even though it all falls under the drug arrests, we are still able to see so much more of these people and how they really are. I'm actually surprized how ignorant the croslins are when it comes to jail and bonds. I've never had to figure out my own bail % but I could do it and have no experience. You'd think they'd have the % down pat. Especially mistys father and brother and mother. I'm surprised at how clueless misty is. I would think other inmates would be telling her what NG says every night. But i kinda like misty that way. Hopefully it will be her downfall.

[HouseOfClark]

But did Misty say "John Talent/Talon/Tellon or was it just "Talent" or whatever? I got the feeling these were all 3 different people- John- Linda- Talon-

I think they're three different people too.

I don't believe Misty ever said John in front of Talent/Talon - just Talent/Talon.

[Motomom]

I think they're three different people too.

I don't believe Misty ever said John in front of Talent/Talon - just Talent/Talon.

I think you are right.. I just recall talent..whoever he is, she thinks he will come and see her and pick up mommy and daddy on the way.. hope we get that video after it happens.

[HouseOfClark]

You aren't alone.. just not reading more into it. The calls were redacted.

They have been around Ron this entire year, if they were covering for him, they wouldn't have to tell him to keep quiet on a recorded call.. They've had a year to tell him that, where as the drug bust just happened and they hadn't a chance to even see him yet.. so telling him to keep quiet was in regards to the drugs IMO.. and nobody here knows how deep this drug dealing goes, who else is involved or anything. Le said there would be more arrests but I dont' think we've heard of any that were connected yet besides these 5..

Even so, why wouldn't they want him to tell the truth about a supplier or bigger fish to lighten his charges or sentence?

She didn't tell him to tell the truth, even to his attorney. Just a warning about a snitch.

JMO

[Bottrell]

Regardless (although I happen to agree with you), what wasn't redacted showed true colors as far as what these 'inmates' have as priorities. Chains, boxer shorts, showers, card playing, honeybuns, cell phone minutes.....

JMO

This whole family is years in the making of dysfunction. Generations. Misty's father owes Grandma (his Mother money) according to Grandma from the tapes last night to where she can't pay her mtg/rent payment. Then daddy chastises daughter saying he warned her not to get caught up in this mess yet he got popped for Dr Shopping, he doesn't have money for gas to visit or put mins on her phone and tells her she doesn't have to be calling everyday etc...the whole lot of them makes me sick. Both sides. The only ones I feel for are the littlest ones they don't stand a chance right now in another 12+ yrs we will be seeing the same for them unless by some miracle they can be the success story you hear about that beats the odds every so often. I hope and pray for the little ones in this family all of them....

[datacop]

Dont you think Ron asking for jewelry as his #1 request was just plain strange ?He also used plural as opposed to singular yet his photo/mugshot shows one chain.Im wondering if it was chains at all he said.I cant think of one reason anybody would request jewelry in jail,especially in solitary.
Anyone with half a brain knows the cops wont let you have jewelry,Ron had to have known that.

Didn't ask for something with a cross?

[Saint Viva]

Even so, why wouldn't they want him to tell the truth about a supplier or bigger fish to lighten his charges or sentence?

She didn't tell him to tell the truth, even to his attorney. Just a warning about a snitch.

JMO

Yeah, we have the Croslins pleading for Misty to tell the truth, and we have Teresa getting a warning via Annette for him to be aware of "snitches" What is wrong here?

[HouseOfClark]

Dont you think Ron asking for jewelry as his #1 request was just plain strange ?He also used plural as opposed to singular yet his photo/mugshot shows one chain.Im wondering if it was chains at all he said.I cant think of one reason anybody would request jewelry in jail,especially in solitary.
Anyone with half a brain knows the cops wont let you have jewelry,Ron had to have known that.

I think he was referring to his cross on a chain that he asked TN to get for him (So he could "keep God next to his heart" per TN) because they could have religious items in Flagler, but apparently they can't have any type of jewelry in Putnam.

Really ironic if it's the cross and when told he couldn't have it, he let loose with cuss words.

JMO

[Motomom]

Even so, why wouldn't they want him to tell the truth about a supplier or bigger fish to lighten his charges or sentence?

She didn't tell him to tell the truth, even to his attorney. Just a warning about a snitch.

JMO

She was passing on what was said to TN from Pop. That's all she was doing IMO. It's common sense to me HOC. They've had all year with him, if this is some big cover up.. they don't need to wait for a drugbust to tell him to hush up about Haleigh..They want her found IMO.. I don't think they care who it implicates..they also believe with all their heart ..again IMO.. that he is not involved. So there was no reason to tell him to not discuss Haleigh.. now if more calls come out that lead me to believe something different, you know my mind will change. It simply doesn't make sense to me..especially knowing the LE has not released anything in regards to Haleigh's case.. and now all of a sudden they are going to slip up? I don't think so.. for now I'm sticking with it :smile:

[Elle]

Dont you think Ron asking for jewelry as his #1 request was just plain strange ?He also used plural as opposed to singular yet his photo/mugshot shows one chain.Im wondering if it was chains at all he said.I cant think of one reason anybody would request jewelry in jail,especially in solitary.
Anyone with half a brain knows the cops wont let you have jewelry,Ron had to have known that.

I guess it would depend on what the chain means to him, could be of sentimental value IDK, could also buy more cards and stuff I would imagine. He said a guard told him he could have it, GGMS said he wasn't allowed to have it, he said never mind. I don't think it's true across the board about the jewlery. In reading various jail inmate intake procedures on sites I could find that had them, it varied as to what was allowed and a couple did allow certain jewlery items after the inmate was fully processed. I did not find one for Putnam so I don't know the rules there.
I like to think I have a whole brain :smile:

[Dunlurken]

Dont you think Ron asking for jewelry as his #1 request was just plain strange ?He also used plural as opposed to singular yet his photo/mugshot shows one chain.Im wondering if it was chains at all he said.I cant think of one reason anybody would request jewelry in jail,especially in solitary.
Anyone with half a brain knows the cops wont let you have jewelry,Ron had to have known that.

Has Ron been in jail before? I'm playing catchup, as usual. That was really stupid of him to ask for his necklace. JMO. I say go sleep under your cot.

Still reading.

Morning all!

[HouseOfClark]

She was passing on what was said to TN from Pop. That's all she was doing IMO. It's common sense to me HOC. They've had all year with him, if this is some big cover up.. they don't need to wait for a drugbust to tell him to hush up about Haleigh..They want her found IMO.. I don't think they care who it implicates..they also believe with all their heart ..again IMO.. that he is not involved. So there was no reason to tell him to not discuss Haleigh.. now if more calls come out that lead me to believe something different, you know my mind will change. It simply doesn't make sense to me..especially knowing the LE has not released anything in regards to Haleigh's case.. and now all of a sudden they are going to slip up? I don't think so.. for now I'm sticking with it :smile:

And again, why would anyone warn him about a snitch as opposed to cooperating and telling the truth ABOUT THE DRUG CASE and hopefully get him less of a sentence?

[Saint Viva]

And again, why would anyone warn him about a snitch as opposed to cooperating and telling the truth ABOUT THE DRUG CASE and hopefully get him less of a sentence?

And lets be fair, they didnt make it clear if the "snitch" was drug or HaLeigh related- But it was important for the family to let Ron know to be on his toes and not say nothing!!! That is beyond disturbing- jmo

[Dunlurken]

Didn't ask for something with a cross?

He asked for his "gold necklace". JMO.

[HenLee]

I think he was referring to his cross on a chain that he asked TN to get for him (So he could "keep God next to his heart" per TN) because they could have religious items in Flagler, but apparently they can't have any type of jewelry in Putnam.

Really ironic if it's the cross and when told he couldn't have it, he let loose with cuss words.

JMO
I think it is also possible the cross and chain may be one he often let Haleigh wear. I have seen pictures of her with gold chain and large cross. MOO

[Elle]

Yeah, we have the Croslins pleading for Misty to tell the truth, and we have Teresa getting a warning via Annette for him to be aware of "snitches" What is wrong here?

Pleading for her to tell the truth, only to her lawyer. Not to talk to anyone else.

Snitches don't just snitch to officials, they go to other inmates, it can be dangerous. It is common to be told to keep your mouth shut. I do not see the snitch comment as relating to Haleigh.

imo

[Motomom]

And again, why would anyone warn him about a snitch as opposed to cooperating and telling the truth ABOUT THE DRUG CASE and hopefully get him less of a sentence?

He tells the truth.. he may get more time. You don't know how big this drug dealing is.. who all it involved. You are assuming he could get a lesser sentence, that's not necessarily the case. Every defense attorney tells their client the same thing.. Keep your mouth shut.

[Dunlurken]

I wonder if there is a cross hanging off that chain , i dont remember seeing one in any pics , just a plain gold chain.

I haven't seen any pics with a cross hanging off it. Just the same old stuff drug dealers wear. Heavy gold chains. JMO.

[DramaQueen]

So who do you think the Talon/Tallent/Talent person Misty seems to be hoping to hear from is, and what relationship do they have to Misty herself? Just curious here since Misty is asking several people about him now. :blushing:Maybe you can call me nosy too IF YOU MUST. :wink:

LOL you are too funny sometimes, and it always catches me by surprise!

[DramaQueen]

I think it is also possible the cross and chain may be one he often let Haleigh wear. I have seen pictures of her with gold chain and large cross. MOO


I have seen a couple of pics with the gold chain, don't remember seeing a cross on it.

[Dunlurken]

I have seen a couple of pics with the gold chain, don't remember seeing a cross on it.

If you guys look at "one" of Ron's mug shots, it's nothing a child would wear. I have seen Haleigh with a heart or locket, but no cross. JMO.

[Saint Viva]

He should have been asking for a picture of his children, that should have been his top priority, but I didnt hear him mention them once, it was all about what he wanted- Its appalling- jmo

[HenLee]

So far i have found 3 pictures that show Rons chain clearly , theres no cross on it.
I may be wrong but I have seen many picture of Ron and Haleigh together and for some reason thinking when I saw the large chain on her it must be Ron's.

[Saint Viva]

Is this one phone call of Ron, the only one that has been released?
I remember TN saying something about him calling 8 times one day.

I believe this was the only call that has been released by Putnam, and it was right after Ron was transferred back, or was this the intital 911 call when he first got arrested, but that wouldnt make sense because he should have his chain- I wonder what happened to the chain he was wearing in his mug shot, you would have thought it would have traveled from Flaggler to Putnam in his belongings- so is he talking about another gold chain?

[Motomom]

Is this one phone call of Ron, the only one that has been released?
I remember TN saying something about him calling 8 times one day.

Yes.. Only one phonecall has been released. The calls were also redacted. I'd like to hear more calls too. If he had mentioned Haleigh or Jr, we'd be reading how he knew he was being recorded, knew they'd be released, playing it up for LE etc etc etc.

[HenLee]

One of our posters has a link where she has many, many pictures of Haleigh and Dad. Maybe she can post her link. I think it is Amanda.

[Elle]

He should have been asking for a picture of his children, that should have been his top priority, but I didnt hear him mention them once, it was all about what he wanted- Its appalling- jmo


You are getting all this off one short phonecall? How do you know what he has said in other calls, visits, letters? How do you know he does not already have pictures?

imo

[DramaQueen]

I may be wrong but I have seen many picture of Ron and Haleigh together and for some reason thinking when I saw the large chain on her it must be Ron's.


yes there's one in particular I remember, she must be about three, and is smiling hugely, no shirt on, and wearing that honkin big chain, like she was getting a real kick out of it

[Saint Viva]

You are getting all this off one short phonecall? How do you know what he has said in other calls, visits, letters? How do you know he does not already have pictures?

imo

Yes, I am talking about the calls released, I dont have any inside information do you? From what I know right now, after listening to Rons tape, he was concerned about his boxers, a necklace and a snitch- It really bothers me, I hope you dont have a problem with me being disgusted by the lack of discussion coming from him about his children- I am allowed to draw my own conclusions I hope thats ok- Or can you prove he has asked for pictures and stuff like that, I have so far only heard that from Misty, so if you could link me to this missed tape, I would gladly appreciate it!!:wub:

TIA

JMO

[DramaQueen]

One of our posters has a link where she has many, many pictures of Haleigh and Dad. Maybe she can post her link. I think it is Amanda.


she posted that photobucket link in yesterdays thread fairly early on, LOL, I am just too lazy to go get it

[Saint Viva]

This disturbs me-

"He tried not to cry. He tried to be the big macho boy but it didn't work. We started talking about Junior and he started crying," said Theresa.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-mother-he-tried-not-to-cry/cCwZsj8yR0iHaPcdd9KJZQ.cspx


How old is Ron? Isnt he 25 now?

[HenLee]

Lots of chains on Haleigh and Ron in this video. One with a cross.


I look at this video again, and I get a lump in my throat for what could have been. Ron obviously loved his daughter, what went wrong? Those damn ole drugs that take over a person's life.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiWEWJWZ-TsThank you plaid, WOW!!!! Yes huge lump in my throat and I don't see how anyone can not see the love between these two. I really don't believe Ron was involved with drugs before his baby went missing and who knows what he will do to find who took his child. Yes even get involved with selling drugs. I don't think life matters any more to him. I have seen pain kill a dear friend of mine. I know it can happen..AMOO

[HouseOfClark]

This disturbs me-

"He tried not to cry. He tried to be the big macho boy but it didn't work. We started talking about Junior and he started crying," said Theresa.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-mother-he-tried-not-to-cry/cCwZsj8yR0iHaPcdd9KJZQ.cspx


How old is Ron? Isnt he 25 now?

THAT'S when he asked for the cross. From your link:

Neves says the only thing Ronald asked for was chain with a cross. The Flagler County Detention Facility is very restrictive about what it lets inmates wear. Religious items are permitted. Ronald's mother says Ronald has asked for the cross so he can keep God close to his heart.

Apparently, Flagler said yes, Putnam said no.

(And no, she didn't mention that he asked for any photos of Haleigh or Jr.)

[datacop]

He asked for his "gold necklace". JMO.

I'm thinking about TN's visit to Flagler and her comments afterwards.

[DramaQueen]

Yes, I am talking about the calls released, I dont have any inside information do you? From what I know right now, after listening to Rons tape, he was concerned about his boxers, a necklace and a snitch- It really bothers me, I hope you dont have a problem with me being disgusted by the lack of discussion coming from him about his children- I am allowed to draw my own conclusions I hope thats ok- Or can you prove he has asked for pictures and stuff like that, I have so far only heard that from Misty, so if you could link me to this missed tape, I would gladly appreciate it!!:wub:

TIA

JMO

I am sure Teresa found out the day he was arrested, as I did, that one thing he is allowed to receive in the mail is personal pictures, and I'm sure she has already hooked him up with some. He cannot, however, receive books and magazines. And it's really pointless to talk to anyone but Crystal about Jr, since he is living with her and I doubt Teresa has even seen him since he went to his mother's house. Just MO, but I have a feeling that's how things shaked down.

[Motomom]

Seriously, I want to hear more of Lindsey and Tommy. Why did we only get a tiny snippet of an hour visit? We haven't gotten any of their phone calls, either.

I'd like to hear more from them too..

[HenLee]

she posted that photobucket link in yesterdays thread fairly early on, LOL, I am just too lazy to go get itI know what you mean DQ, I will go look for it. LOL.. This is such a moving video posted by plaid. Breaks my heart into.

[CFMom]

This disturbs me-

"He tried not to cry. He tried to be the big macho boy but it didn't work. We started talking about Junior and he started crying," said Theresa.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Cummings-mother-he-tried-not-to-cry/cCwZsj8yR0iHaPcdd9KJZQ.cspx


How old is Ron? Isnt he 25 now?

This proves he did speak about JR....and cried. I hope he cleans his act up ..him and Crystal both and become the parents these kids deserve. moo

[CFMom]

Thank you plaid, WOW!!!! Yes huge lump in my throat and I don't see how anyone can not see the love between these two. I really don't believe Ron was involved with drugs before his baby went missing and who knows what he will do to find who took his child. Yes even get involved with selling drugs. I don't think life matters any more to him. I have seen pain kill a dear friend of mine. I know it can happen..AMOO

I think Ron was a good father also...I think he fell a part after Haleigh went missing. I hope this arrest will get him the help he needs.

[CFMom]

THAT'S when he asked for the cross. From your link:



Apparently, Flagler said yes, Putnam said no.

(And no, she didn't mention that he asked for any photos of Haleigh or Jr.)

But they talked about JR...

[HenLee]

His arrest record begs to differ.His arrest record is before Haleigh and after Haleigh. MOO

[CFMom]

His arrest record begs to differ.

Thats now though. I think before Haleigh went missing Ron was a better father. moo

[DramaQueen]

Did you miss the video I linked on the previous page?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiWEWJWZ-Ts

yes I guess I did, sorry......darn multitasking, LOL

what sweet sweet pictures, sigh

[HouseOfClark]

But they talked about JR...

He should have been thinking about Jr. instead of selling and buying drugs from an undercover officer (and whoever else).

JMO

[datacop]

Is there a video of this exchange between Teresa and Ron, or is it just Teresa's spin on the conversation?

So far just TN's spin.

[CFMom]

He should have been thinking about Jr. instead of selling and buying drugs from an undercover officer (and whoever else).

JMO

I agree....both JRs parents should have put him before drugs...but neither did so now all we can do is pray they straighten up and do whats right. moo

[HouseOfClark]

Is there a video of this exchange between Teresa and Ron, or is it just Teresa's spin on the conversation?

Nothing has been released from Flagler as far as any recorded phone calls or visits, so yes this is TN's word about the conversation.

[datacop]

He should have been thinking about Jr. instead of selling and buying drugs from an undercover officer (and whoever else).

JMO


Absolutely.

[CFMom]

Only if there is a tape of this. Other than that its what Teresa says.

moo

There is as much proof he asked about JR as there is proof he didnt.

[Saint Viva]

Is there a video of this exchange between Teresa and Ron, or is it just Teresa's spin on the conversation?

Its Teresas interview outside the jail- no tapes have been released of that visit yet-

jmo

[CFMom]

From what i understood Ron has been in trouble many times which included drugs , his mother appears to have been able to get him off the hook up til now , thats why i dont discount him working with the cops now.

What proof do you have TN got Ron off the hook?

[KatieLady]

Thank you plaid, WOW!!!! Yes huge lump in my throat and I don't see how anyone can not see the love between these two. I really don't believe Ron was involved with drugs before his baby went missing and who knows what he will do to find who took his child. Yes even get involved with selling drugs. I don't think life matters any more to him. I have seen pain kill a dear friend of mine. I know it can happen..AMOO

The love between them is obvious in the pictures. It is heartbreaking. How it all could go so wrong :crying:

[HouseOfClark]

I agree....both JRs parents should have put him before drugs...but neither did so now all we can do is pray they straighten up and do whats right. moo

Only one of his parents is facing dozens of years in prison for drug trafficking that I'm aware of and seems convinced that he'll be serving them..

[Ontario]

Isn't this the same lawyer that dumped Misty once before for talking? Or did I imagine that? I might have LOL.. When Misty gets wind that Lenny will bail her out.. She may tell the truth..she wants out!! it may take a few more weeks though.. when the phonecalls cant be made and only letters are going back and forth.

I agree when the phone calls stop, as Timmy said he lets his Mother and Dad use his phone to speak with Tommy also and the cost is $25.00 per call, and these people are running out of money, Mommy and Daddy soon will have no home no wheels, then she might start to break down, as in one of her tapes yesterday she said the socks that she is wearing are all stretched out and she has to tie them around her ankles to keep them on, plus she is so hungry, not for food as she gets 3 square meals a day, she is starting to need a fix! The fact that she is cold all the time also is a sign that her body is craving a fix!

[CFMom]

Only one of his parents is facing dozens of years in prison for drug trafficking that I'm aware of and seems convinced that he'll be serving them..

Yes but both parents are known to have used drugs. This affects the children. moo

[HenLee]

He should have been thinking about Jr. instead of selling and buying drugs from an undercover officer (and whoever else).

JMOHOC, if you know someone who has had a child die it changes that person for sometimes years even when they have other children. I know my friend had two other children and the pain was so painful it did not keep her from committing suicide. I think the rules change for those who have lost a child them self. MOO

[datacop]

I agree when the phone calls stop, as Timmy said he lets his Mother and Dad use his phone to speak with Tommy also and the cost is $25.00 per call, and these people are running out of money, Mommy and Daddy soon will have no home no wheels, then she might start to break down, as in one of her tapes yesterday she said the socks that she is wearing are all stretched out and she has to tie them around her ankles to keep them on, plus she is so hungry, not for food as she gets 3 square meals a day, she is starting to need a fix! The fact that she is cold all the time also is a sign that her body is craving a fix!


How does that work? I thought Timmy was in the NE, not in Florida.

[DramaQueen]

I know what you mean DQ, I will go look for it. LOL.. This is such a moving video posted by plaid. Breaks my heart into.


It is my interpretation from all that I have read and heard and seen of Ron Cummings that he was a much better father, not before drugs, but before Misty. BEFORE MISTY. And remember he is only accused of selling drugs, not using them. Dealers often are NOT users, it depletes their "stash" and their cash. IMO drugs are not and were not Ron's downfall, Misty is/was.

[CFMom]

HOC, if you know someone who has had a child die it changes that person for sometimes years even when they have other children. I know my friend had two other children and the pain was so painful it did not keep her from committing suicide. I think the rules change for those who have lost a child them self. MOO

I agree and unless we are in that persons shoes we cannot say how we would act. There is no book of rules. moo

[CFMom]

It is my interpretation from all that I have read and heard and seen of Ron Cummings that he was a much better father, not before drugs, but before Misty. BEFORE MISTY. And remember he is only accused of selling drugs, not using them. Dealers often are NOT users, it depletes their "stash" and their cash. IMO drugs are not and were not Ron's downfall, Misty is/was.

I blame Ron for his mistakes...and only him. He is an adult. I blame misty for hers. I think after Haleigh went missing Ron made bad choices he has to now face. moo

[HenLee]

You know, Henlee, this is what bothers me. Maybe he did deal drugs before he had Haleigh and then after Haliegh disappeared.

There was no "after" with JR, though. He still had a child in his care.
That's what I don't understand.I can tell you, losing a child can drive a person crazy. I personally have been fortunate enough in my life to have avoided that kind of pain.Thank God..

[CFMom]

I can tell you, losing a child can drive a person crazy. I personally have been fortunate enough in my life to have avoided that kind of pain.Thank God..

Me to and Lord Knows I do NOT want to know how that feels.

[HouseOfClark]

HOC, if you know someone who has had a child die it changes that person for sometimes years even when they have other children. I know my friend had two other children and the pain was so painful it did not keep her from committing suicide. I think the rules change for those who have lost a child them self. MOO

I disagree. Ron never threatened suicide, nor did he attempt it.

As it stands right now, he doesn't know if Haleigh is alive or dead. Why not operate under the assumption that she's alive and will need you at some point?

I'm very sorry for your friend, but I just am not seeing that deep seated grief with Ron Cummings.

JMO

[CFMom]

I disagree. Ron never threatened suicide, nor did he attempt it.

As it stands right now, he doesn't know if Haleigh is alive or dead. Why not operate under the assumption that she's alive and will need you at some point?

I'm very sorry for your friend, but I just am not seeing that deep seated grief with Ron Cummings.

JMO

Perhaps its not something you can 'see' by reading news reports. Maybe one has to personally know a person to see how they are truly handling something as horrible as a missing child. moo

[HenLee]

It is my interpretation from all that I have read and heard and seen of Ron Cummings that he was a much better father, not before drugs, but before Misty. BEFORE MISTY. And remember he is only accused of selling drugs, not using them. Dealers often are NOT users, it depletes their "stash" and their cash. IMO drugs are not and were not Ron's downfall, Misty is/was.I want argue your point because you may be right. I just hope he knows what he is doing and I have my very on theory. Again, I think his on life means nothing to him right now, finding who ever hurt his baby has consumed him. MOO

[Saint Viva]

Interesting-

Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin, two key players in the disappearance almost a year ago of then-5-year-old Haleigh Cummings

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100204/ARTICLES/100209695/1002

[CFMom]

In your opinion is that why Lindsey wasnt wearing a ring ?

Didnt Tommy tell her to go buy herself one..No clue where she was to get the money but where was her ring?

[CFMom]

Interesting-

Ronald Cummings and Misty Croslin, two key players in the disappearance almost a year ago of then-5-year-old Haleigh Cummings

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100204/ARTICLES/100209695/1002

Yes Ron is her father and Misty was last seen with her..two key players for sure.

[Dunlurken]

Lots of chains on Haleigh and Ron in this video. One with a cross.


I look at this video again, and I get a lump in my throat for what could have been. Ron obviously loved his daughter, what went wrong? Those damn ole drugs that take over a person's life.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiWEWJWZ-Ts

Thank you for that link. JMO.

[HouseOfClark]

Perhaps its not something you can 'see' by reading news reports. Maybe one has to personally know a person to see how they are truly handling something as horrible as a missing child. moo

I don't have to personally know a person to see anything. How many other parents of missing children turned to selling/buying drugs?

IMO, that activity was going on long before Haleigh went missing and Ron gained confidence in believing that since LE wasn't calling him a suspect, he could do pretty much whatever he wanted and they'd turn a blind eye. Because, after all, HE has a missing child.

That's my opinion.

[Motomom]

So its true then he was in trouble many times before ? His mother working for the sheriffs dept may or may not be why he got off the hook , theres other ways to get off the hook , narcing is just one of them.

If you have sat in any municipal court you will see that the judge..the prosecuters.. they let alot go with no jail time.. with no punishment basically. Sometimes a fine and a be good for 6 months and it all gets dropped. So Ron getting off before on any of his arrests.. is no different than anyone else imo.

[datacop]

In your opinion is that why Lindsey wasnt wearing a ring ?

No, I think the pawn shop has/had it.

[HenLee]

I disagree. Ron never threatened suicide, nor did he attempt it.

As it stands right now, he doesn't know if Haleigh is alive or dead. Why not operate under the assumption that she's alive and will need you at some point?

I'm very sorry for your friend, but I just am not seeing that deep seated grief with Ron Cummings.

JMO
And, I am sorry you can not see the pain, maybe because it is inside of him and not visible to other peoples eyes. I respect your opinions. We each see things differently through our on eyes. I think we can agree on that.

[Diamond1]

I don't have to personally know a person to see anything. How many other parents of missing children turned to selling/buying drugs?

IMO, that activity was going on long before Haleigh went missing and Ron gained confidence in believing that since LE wasn't calling him a suspect, he could do pretty much whatever he wanted and they'd turn a blind eye. Because, after all, HE has a missing child.

That's my opinion.

I agree with your opinion. I think he has always sold drugs, used drugs and his crimes finally caught up with him. It's not something that just started.
mo

[Kathlb]

I got a head's up email from Art Harris this morning. He has posted a new article explaining just how he feels about Misty possibly being bailed out by LP and how he feels about the case. It's definitely worth a read and I'm so glad he isn't involved in this possible bail out with LP. :thumbsup:

http://www.artharris.com/

[mrsmcgoo]

It is my interpretation from all that I have read and heard and seen of Ron Cummings that he was a much better father, not before drugs, but before Misty. BEFORE MISTY. And remember he is only accused of selling drugs, not using them. Dealers often are NOT users, it depletes their "stash" and their cash. IMO drugs are not and were not Ron's downfall, Misty is/was.

I never got the feeling that Ron used drugs anytime I saw him on NG. Now not so sure. I look at those pics of him falling apart and hugging Haleigh's picture, and yes, he is devastated, but in the back of my mind I can hear his family saying....Ron was wasted that day, he barely hung on. Than when I heard him talking to the reporter since he was in jail, I thought he sounded very different. He was much more forceful and interrupting. Less in control and wondered if it was withdrawal?

I have nothing to base this on and it is just an opinion, I have been wrong lots and could be again. lol

JMO

[?noanswer]

****

I think it's high time someone started putting more screws to Lindsey and Tommy.

Tommy thinks he will sit there until he goes to court in 4 or 5 months and he will walk right out of there. Does he have an attorney? Hasn't that attorney fully communicated to him that he is in serious trouble?

Someone needs to let Tommy know that Lindsey is moving to Palm Coast to start a new life without him.
Someone needs to tell Lindsey that Tommy is going away for many, many years.

Then someone needs to listen when the tongues start wagging.

JMO, of course.


BBM

IIRC Lindsey told him that when she visited him at the jail. I think he said he would come there as soon as he got out of jail. I understand why some people "stand by their man", but for the life of me, I can't understand why Lindsey doesn't move on with her life, get a job, and take care of her children.


JMO

[HouseOfClark]

I got a head's up email from Art Harris this morning. He has posted a new article explaining just how he feels about Misty possibly being bailed out by LP and how he feels about the case. It's definitely worth a read and I'm so glad he isn't involved in this possible bail out with LP. :thumbsup:

http://www.artharris.com/

I think it's because you used the word "beseech" in your email! They knew you meant business!
:wink:

[Dunlurken]

I got a head's up email from Art Harris this morning. He has posted a new article explaining just how he feels about Misty possibly being bailed out by LP and how he feels about the case. It's definitely worth a read and I'm so glad he isn't involved in this possible bail out with LP. :thumbsup:

http://www.artharris.com/
Just shows what a nutcase LC is. And for the record, last night LP said he will not post bail. If he goes back on his "word".....I will never forgive him. Not that I'm important to him. LOL.

Is LP Cobra? That one is really bugging me. JMO.

[CFMom]

I don't have to personally know a person to see anything. How many other parents of missing children turned to selling/buying drugs?

IMO, that activity was going on long before Haleigh went missing and Ron gained confidence in believing that since LE wasn't calling him a suspect, he could do pretty much whatever he wanted and they'd turn a blind eye. Because, after all, HE has a missing child.

That's my opinion.

Yes, your opinion.

[HenLee]

I know, I have been there. 'Nuff said.

I am SS, you must have the strength my mother did who also lost a child before I was born and carried on to raise other children. I think it made her a stronger person. My mother said my father never got over it and I can remember we were never allowed to speak his name around my father when I was a child. I think we never brought his name up as adults around him due to the fact we never wanted to hurt him. My Mother was such a Strong person, life gave her no other choice. :rose: May she RIP, I know where she is.Yes, Nuff said.

[DramaQueen]

Just shows what a nutcase LC is. And for the record, last night LP said he will not post bail. If he goes back on his "word".....I will never forgive him. Not that I'm important to him. LOL.

Is LP Cobra? That one is really bugging me. JMO.


Leonard Padilla and Cobra are two entirely different people

[Dunlurken]

BBM

IIRC Lindsey told him that when she visited him at the jail. I think he said he would come there as soon as he got out of jail. I understand why some people "stand by their man", but for the life of me, I can't understand why Lindsey doesn't move on with her life, get a job, and take care of her children.


JMO
Tommy ain't going no where (sorry for slipping into the venacular) but he's in there for the long haul. JMO. At least until someone tells what happened to Haleigh. And there is not one iota of doubt in my mind that someone knows what happened to Haleigh. JMOA.

[HouseOfClark]

Tommy ain't going no where (sorry for slipping into the venacular) but he's in there for the long haul. JMO. At least until someone tells what happened to Haleigh. And there is not one iota of doubt in my mind that someone knows what happened to Haleigh. JMOA.

And it isn't just Misty.

JMO

[Dunlurken]

Leonard Padilla and Cobra are two entirely different people

Who is Cobra? Is that LP's nephew who posted bond for CA? JMO. That served LP well, (being facetious of course.)

[Dunlurken]

And it isn't just Misty.

JMO

I agree. JMO.

[CFMom]

Crystal admitted often doing drugs with Ron , she also claims he often hit and kicked her even while pregnant.
I fail to see how he only started being a lesser person when Misty came along.

The "troubles" he had with the police can not be easily explained away.

OCTOBER 23, 2001 Ronald Cummings was charged with….
INTENT OR THREAT TO DO VIOLENCE – CHARGES WERE DROPPED

On DECEMBER 12, 2002 Ronald Cummings was charged with….
COCAINE POSSESSION – NOT PROSECUTED
MARIJUANA POSSESSION – ADMINISTRATIVELY DISMISSED
NARCOTIC EQUIPMENT POSSESSION – NO ACTION TAKEN

On MARCH 21, 2004 Ronald Cummings was charged with….
POSSESSION OF ALCOHOL UNDER 21 – DISPOSITION HELD
CONTRIBUTING TO DELINQUENCY OF A MINOR – NOT PROSECUTED

On NOVEMBER 12, 2004 Ronald Cummings was charged with….
MARIJUANA DISTRIBUTION – ADJUDICATION WITHHELD
NARCOTIC EQUIPMENT POSSESSION – NO ACTION TAKEN
MAINTAINING DRUG VEHICLE – NO ACTION TAKEN

On SEPTEMBER 26, 2005 Ronald Cummings was charged with….
POSSESSION OF MORPHINE – DROPPED
POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION – CHARGES WERE DROPPED
POSSESSION OF DRUG WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION – CHARGES WERE DROPPED
NARCOTIC EQUIPMENT POSSESSION – CHARGES WERE DROPPED
VIOLATION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INJUNCTION – CHARGES WERE DROPPED.

On JULY 29, 2006 Ronald Cummings was charged with….
TRESPASSING AFTER WARNING – GUILTY – He was GIVEN PROBATION AND A FINE.

I think you get my point. The police have caught Ronald over and over again with drugs, drug paraphernalia, un-authorized prescription pills and drug equipment. They have caught him trespassing and violating a domestic violence injunction but every time, over and over again, he is released without prosecution.

Seems since 05 Ron had kept himself out of trouble. moo..I dont count the trespassing as much.

[HenLee]

Tommy ain't going no where (sorry for slipping into the venacular) but he's in there for the long haul. JMO. At least until someone tells what happened to Haleigh. And there is not one iota of doubt in my mind that someone knows what happened to Haleigh. JMOA.
We are certainly on the same page her, yep, no doubt about it. He is a little snake IMO.
I think maybe his wife will have to learn to live without him and when she finds she cam, Good bye Tommy. I wish her strength and luck, unless she knows her husband had something to do with this missing child. If she does, I hope she goes down with him for covering for his butt. MOO

[HouseOfClark]

Seems since 05 Ron had kept himself out of trouble. moo..I dont count the trespassing as much.

When and where was the charge for affray? IIRC, that was a different county, after 2005.

Trespassing shows a disrespect for other people's property.

JMO

[Dunlurken]

Thanks for the link, Kath!

Why didn't Art just say he was having nothing to do with it when this aired? He was right there. Heck, I even questioned at the time why Nancy didn't ask him about it.

Good grief, they think we are the stupid ones.

My opinion.
Art did say he had nothing to do with LP. Guess we will have a re-run tonight of the NG show. He also said he had nothing to do with TJHart (at least that's the way I took it, I'm good at surmising). Maybe I need to read the transcript. LOL

[KatieLady]

Thanks for the link, Kath!

Why didn't Art just say he was having nothing to do with it when this aired? He was right there. Heck, I even questioned at the time why Nancy didn't ask him about it.

Good grief, they think we are the stupid ones.

My opinion.

I'm thinking he intended to but who can get a word in edgewise when Nancy's on a roll lol

[Dunlurken]

We are certainly on the same page her, yep, no doubt about it. He is a little snake IMO.
I think maybe his wife will have to learn to live without him and when she finds she cam, Good bye Tommy. I wish her strength and luck, unless she knows her husband had something to do with this missing child. If she does, I hope she goes down with him for covering for his butt. MOO

But dontcha know, he's an addict, not a criminal? THUD.

[Dunlurken]

I'm thinking he intended to but who can get a word in edgewise when Nancy's on a roll lol
Let me go look for the transcript. I could swear he said he had nothing to do with LP. BRB, in about 15 minutes cause it takes me that long to find a link. LOL.

[whitney]

IMO these people will stay in jail until they get a court date and then that court date will get continued a few times and then the plea bargaining will begin and sadly they will probably get time served...at least Misty and Tommy they don't seem to have the priors that RC does. It happens all the time the State of Fla does not want to feed and house these people for 25 years they don't keep murderers and rapists that long. I still don't like the Katrina connection though and sill wonder what she and GGMS dropped off at the MH that night. Did Misty run her mouth about having drugs in the MH that night...did her "friends" sneak in that night and Haleigh was taken during the robbery of drugs? Is that why they moved into GGMS and they sided with Misty all this time. That snitch comment is strange...what GRandma visits their gc in jail and warns of "snitches". Maybe RC is enjoying being away from the lot of them. He isn't complaining one bit. JMO

[Kathlb]

I think it's because you used the word "beseech" in your email! They knew you meant business!
:wink:

Well, I did. :biggrin: I still haven't heard back from LP. Just goes to show you who is for real between them and who is in it for show. JMHO

[DramaQueen]

Who is Cobra? Is that LP's nephew who posted bond for CA? JMO. That served LP well, (being facetious of course.)

Cobra and LP are not related at all

Cobra is a bounty hunter

[CFMom]

It clearly shows Ron was a habitual drug user,its funny you dont count the trespassing as much , its the only charge there he actually got anything for.
Ron was no angel before Misty , thats my point.He also seems to have gotten off the hook on some pretty serious stuff in the past.

I didnt include the trespassing because it wasn't drug related and really Id have to know the circumstances before Id judge that one. Could be as simp[le as crossing thru an orange grove marked no trespassing. Who knows. But as far as drugs..since 05..so last few years he had done better. I agree he was no angel but then I don't recall calling him one.

[KatieLady]

It was 3 crackers last night and her pal only had half a bag of chips...musta been family size considering..

:lol: :lol: Jim and Minnow

[KatieLady]

Well, I did. :biggrin: I still haven't heard back from LP. Just goes to show you who is for real between them and who is in it for show. JMHO

You might want to tell him that NG's makeup person sucks IMO :wink:

[CFMom]

When and where was the charge for affray? IIRC, that was a different county, after 2005.

Trespassing shows a disrespect for other people's property.

JMO
Here in Fla all orange groves are marked no trespassing. I know many who 'pick an orange' and I don't call or consider them criminals. Just my opinion.

ETA; The northerners who come down love the orange trees. moo

[DramaQueen]

When and where was the charge for affray? IIRC, that was a different county, after 2005.

Trespassing shows a disrespect for other people's property.

JMO


you do know, for instance, that if you are at soemone's house and you say have an argument and that person asks you to leave and you refuse they can call the cops and have you charged with trespassing? I'm just saying he was not necessarily sneaking around people's houses and got caught

[Dunlurken]

Let's see if this works. From Nancy's show last... I forgot what I was looking for, but this interesting. LP gives an emphatic NO he will not bail Misty out. JMO.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/crime/2010/02/05/ng.mom.bail.out.cnn

[Elle]

Yes, I am talking about the calls released, I dont have any inside information do you? From what I know right now, after listening to Rons tape, he was concerned about his boxers, a necklace and a snitch- It really bothers me, I hope you dont have a problem with me being disgusted by the lack of discussion coming from him about his children- I am allowed to draw my own conclusions I hope thats ok- Or can you prove he has asked for pictures and stuff like that, I have so far only heard that from Misty, so if you could link me to this missed tape, I would gladly appreciate it!!:wub:

TIA

JMO

You are drawing conclusions on ridulously small amounts of information. You say you are disgusted by his lack of discussion about his kids, yet you limit it to one phonecall. Theresa specifically stated he spoke of Jr. but what, because you didn't hear it you don't believe it?
Would I be incorrect in thinking if you did hear him talk about Jr. or Haleigh that you would have posted something on the lines of he is just playing for the camera, playing to an audience?

Viva, your catty 'I hope you don't mind me being disgusted, I hope that's ok-' comments are unecessary.

I will continue in my belief that it is unwise to draw conclusions with so little input/data. It's your right to do as you please (as you already know).

[Saint Viva]

you do know, for instance, that if you are at soemone's house and you say have an argument and that person asks you to leave and you refuse they can call the cops and have you charged with trespassing? I'm just saying he was not necessarily sneaking around people's houses and got caught

Can you share with us the incident report from that arrest?

[CFMom]

you do know, for instance, that if you are at soemone's house and you say have an argument and that person asks you to leave and you refuse they can call the cops and have you charged with trespassing? I'm just saying he was not necessarily sneaking around people's houses and got caught

Right thats why I said I'd want to know what happen to judge that. As I said people from up north come here and will go into the groves to take pictures of the trees. I do not consider them criminals even though the grove is marked 'no trespassing'. moo

[Dunlurken]

Cobra and LP are not related at all

Cobra is a bounty hunter
So is LP? That's why I put 2+2 together and came up with 4. :confused:

[CFMom]

You are drawing conclusions on ridulously small amounts of information. You say you are disgusted by his lack of discussion about his kids, yet you limit it to one phonecall. Theresa specifically stated he spoke of Jr. but what, because you didn't hear it you don't believe it?
Would I be incorrect in thinking if you did hear him talk about Jr. or Haleigh that you would have posted something on the lines of he is just playing for the camera, playing to an audience?

Viva, your catty 'I hope you don't mind me being disgusted, I hope that's ok-' comments are unecessary.

I will continue in my belief that it is unwise to draw conclusions with so little input/data. It's your right to do as you please (as you already know).

Some see only one side. Theirs. moo

[CFMom]

So he got smart and wasnt caught for 4 years , thats nothing.A lot of people manage to get through thier entire lifes using drugs of one form or another and never being caught.
I dont see Ron enjoying cocaine and pot in 05 and stopping only to be busted dealing pills 4 years later.I believe he just wasnt caught doing anything.
Further to that id speculate Ron was clearing up such drug related items during the 911 call,thats why Misty was on the phone , just my own opinion.

I totally agree. Crystal was one who was lucky..used but has no record of it.

[Kathlb]

You might want to tell him that NG's makeup person sucks IMO :wink:

:laugh: I think Nancy might be the one to get that. Go ahead....I'm not jumping into the fray on that one. ;-)

[Dunlurken]

Oh, Dunnie.

We were talking about Art and the show the night before last.

When they showed the videos of Misty with her Mom and Dad.
Misty said something about Art bailing her out.
Art was a guest on the show that night.
Nancy never asked him about it and he never said a word about it.

No, no, no. You're missing my point. On LAST NIGHT's show, LP gave an emphatic no he would not bail Misty out unless she tells where Haleigh is, or what happened to her. Did you watch my link (that it only took 10 minutes to find? LOL)

[KatieLady]

:laugh: I think Nancy might be the one to get that. Go ahead....I'm not jumping into the fray on that one. ;-)

Don't think I want in on that one either

:chicken:

[Kathlb]

Here in Fla all orange groves are marked no trespassing. I know many who 'pick an orange' and I don't call or consider them criminals. Just my opinion.

ETA; The northerners who come down love the orange trees. moo

We have three orange trees in our front yard and BEG people to come in and pick them. All they do is fall to the ground and make a mess. And for some reason they are sour...I think it has to do with the male/female thing. :beer:

[CFMom]

Its strange how she is overlooked , apparantly entirely.Wasnt she due to go to jail for child support , something like $12,000.
Ironic she is the one not in jail and there appears to have been some money made off the back of haleighbug.com or the charity she had set up.Will that money ever be accounted for ?

I don't know how much was made in donations. I hope it is accounted for and I hope it was used for locating Haleigh. All I know are rumors and I wont repeat because I am not sure what is fact and what isn't.

[HenLee]

So he got smart and wasnt caught for 4 years , thats nothing.A lot of people manage to get through thier entire lifes using drugs of one form or another and never being caught.
I dont see Ron enjoying cocaine and pot in 05 and stopping only to be busted dealing pills 4 years later.I believe he just wasnt caught doing anything.
Further to that id speculate Ron was clearing up such drug related items during the 911 call,thats why Misty was on the phone , just my own opinion.
I don't see any sign's of him going through drug with drawls, he looks drug free to me. You would think if he was a long time heavy drug user he would be climbing the walls by now and they would have him on Prozac and he would be showing obvious signs to everyone. MOO

[CFMom]

We have three orange trees in our front yard and BEG people to come in and pick them. All they do is fall to the ground and make a mess. And for some reason they are sour...I think it has to do with the male/female thing. :beer:

I agree. :biggrin:

[datacop]

I guess I am missing your point.

I was posting about Art Harris' blog.
I found it odd he needed to blog about something he could easily have refuted on the air in about 2 seconds, yet, he didn't.

Thanks for the info about LP, though......

And then he could have been answering our questions of 2 days ago.

[CFMom]

I understand , ive heard and read some reports that are pretty alarming.If true it'll come out eventually.

Yes me too....and yes I am sure it will come out.

[Dunlurken]

I guess I am missing your point.

I was posting about Art Harris' blog.
I found it odd he needed to blog about something he could easily have refuted on the air in about 2 seconds, yet, he didn't.

Thanks for the info about LP, though......

Guess I should follow blogs more often. LOL. I prefer to "watch" what people say so I can see the body language, etc. Something caught me off guard recently. I know this has been discussed ad nauseam, but I rewatched Misty's initial interview with Lisa sitting next to her after the initial disappearance. Misty constantly looked down and to the left. A body language expert will tell you it means she's lieing. JMO.

Editied for typos.

[HenLee]

One neednt be a heavy drug user to be a user , its beyond any doubt he was in fact a user at one point.I agree Ron looks and sounds good..too good.He isnt worried at all as Whitney pointed out earlier.As a matter of fact , Ron sounds better on that call than he has throughout the whole mess..curious that is."curious that is" especially since some are assuming he is a drug user. He looks more like a milk drinker to me. LOL.. My sons all love their milk, so I just had to say that...

[whitney]

I don't know how much was made in donations. I hope it is accounted for and I hope it was used for locating Haleigh. All I know are rumors and I wont repeat because I am not sure what is fact and what isn't.

Well we do know for a fact she is at home...not in jail like RC is and now has custody of JR and away from the whole lot of Cummings. Fears are better spent on them they are the ones in trouble here not Crystal. JMO

[DramaQueen]

You have the patience of a saint. I'm just sayin.......


LOL but it's dunlurken, and I consider them friend, just figured he/she had a brain fart for a minute there.....you ok dun?

[HenLee]

I can see where the board is headed so I will take my bow and leave. Discussion has been good. Have a good one ......
For you Haleigh, where ever you are.:rose:

[datacop]

I am glad you said that. Because of you, I had the guts to post a comment about his blog, today. Did yours ever get approved?


Approved, but the last time I check no response, and I'm sure he's gone on to something else by now.

So we still don't know why/if Ron needed a babysitter on Sunday or if they were really talking about Monday like NG keeps saying (sort of).

And we still don't know why if TN would try to pay someone who had been on a binge to watch her grandchildren, no matter when it was.

[whitney]

She is sitting at home for one reason and one reason only , Haleigh went missing.Otherwise it would be her sitting in Mistys cell.
HUH??? do you know something we don't know because this doesn't make sense to me. Was Crystal selling drugs? JMO

[DramaQueen]

"curious that is" especially since some are assuming he is a drug user. He looks more like a milk drinker to me. LOL.. My sons all love their milk, so I just had to say that...

LMAO, gasp, you have NO IDEA of the picture that flashed in my mind....word association....RC....milk drinker.....TN.......alledged (by many) enabler......my brain goes some very strange places sometimes:lol:

[Dunlurken]

LOL but it's dunlurken, and I consider them friend, just figured he/she had a brain fart for a minute there.....you ok dun?

I'm good! Where is Haleigh? It's killing me. And there's no doubt in my mind SOMEONE knows. Ron, Misty, or Tommy? Not clear on that yet. JMO. I'm still sleuthing.

[whitney]

No , everybody is aware i should think Crystal owed 12k in unpaid child support , she was heading for the pokey.
Good Lord with all of the new developements in this case some are still stuck on paid child support. JMO

[Lynn Gweeny]

BLOGTALKRADIO - Today at 1:00 p.m. ET (less than 45 minutes 'til air)
Host Name: Simon Barrett
Show Name: Haleigh Cummings Update

Length: 1 hr 30 min
Description: There has been so much activity in the Haleigh Cummings case that TJ Hart and I have decided to do a special update.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett/2010/02/05/haleigh-cummings-update

[Dunlurken]

No , everybody is aware i should think Crystal owed 12k in unpaid child support , she was heading for the pokey.

Is that important? She was nowhere around when Haleigh went missing. Keep your eye on the prize. Finding out what happened to Haleigh THAT NIGHT! JMO.

[whitney]

One might also call it "motive"
Guess LE doesn't think it "motive" I don't see her in jail on an unusually high bail amount. JMO

[datacop]

No , everybody is aware i should think Crystal owed 12k in unpaid child support , she was heading for the pokey.

Not necessarily. It seemed as if that was the first action taken for back child support ...

[DramaQueen]

One might also call it "motive"


I dunno, seems like awfully desperate measures to me, and no reason to take one child and leave the other, besides, how long could she have kept them hidden? Not forever that's for sure, the way everyone in that family is breathing down each other's necks everyday.

[Dunlurken]

Fair enough , 12k is a lot of money though , that wasnt going to go away,only increase.Not any more it doesnt.

It's not $1.35 million. LOL.

[Bingo]

I agree with your opinion. I think he has always sold drugs, used drugs and his crimes finally caught up with him. It's not something that just started.
mo

I hesitate to post on this particular thread because it seems to get so nasty sometimes, but couldn't resist responding.

I totally agree with what you said and beyond....I think that everyone in their little orbit did drugs, partied hard, dated each other and were pretty much losers. Kids hooking up with kids and having kids. Little education, lack of ambition, lack of parenting skills and a host of other dysfunctions.

It's sad...so sad.......and as usual it's an innocent child who pays the ultimate price...

My own opinion

[DramaQueen]

Honestly, after those phone tapes, and I didn't listen to all of them, I believe that the next out of Misty's mouth, other than I want out of here, will be another story/lie. Didn't she say she might tell 'em something if it gets her out of there?

Since some of us think that people connected read these boards and then use what is said, I will state more but I have an idea what we might hear.

You mean when she said to tell Cobra if he would bail her out she had something to tell him? I clearly heard that. And what could she have to tell Cobra that WASN'T related to Haleigh's case? Nothing that I can think of. But she has to realize that Cobra doesn't have the funds to bail her out without Padilla.

[whitney]

Just have to wait and see , i dont think we are allowed to quote rumours from other boards.
Still not sure what you are alluding to but no matter much more to concentrate on with all these new trafficking charges. JMO

[Bingo]

It was 3 crackers last night and her pal only had half a bag of chips...musta been family size considering..

No kidding... You would think that these folks would at least have a few boxes of lean cusine hanging around....

She's just lying.....You can't tell me that they don't have a cafeteria at the studio or someone to go out and get a meal for them...C'mon on now..

[DramaQueen]

It didnt start out with an angle to Crystal being involved , just that its ironic how she is the only one that "benefits" as it were.
I do think we will be seeing a lot more of her in the future.


she and her mother are hosting the vigil tomorrow, is anyone planning to go? I sure wish I could, I thought about leaving tonite and getting there tomorrow in time but we have really bad weather coming in so a road trip is not a good idea.

[Dunlurken]

Eh ? We were discussing Crystals unpaid child support , not Mistys bail.

I don't care about Crystal's unpaid child support. She's not in jail on $1.35 million bond. JMO.

[diesel]

Could anyone tell me what 'maintaining a drug vehicle' is or means?

Just curious.

[TBO]

Hey, you have a point. Remember that night, though? I even said, "Geez, Nancy, ask him about it!!" and she never did.

I just assumed she was too busy looking for chicken nuggets....

BOMBSHELL, BREAKING NEWS, THIS JUST IN, JUST PUT ON MY DESK from my producer......NG has a thing for Ron SHE SAID SO! LOL

[DramaQueen]

No kidding... You would think that these folks would at least have a few boxes of lean cusine hanging around....

She's just lying.....You can't tell me that they don't have a cafeteria at the studio or someone to go out and get a meal for them...C'mon on now..
they always have the kraft tables at those places, I watch Entertainment Tonite:wink:

[Dunlurken]

Could anyone tell me what 'maintaining a drug vehicle' is or means?

Just curious.Used for drug trafficking. JMO.

[DramaQueen]

Could anyone tell me what 'maintaining a drug vehicle' is or means?

Just curious.

using a vehicle to sell/distribute drugs. If you get caught doing it from your place of residence its called maintaining a residence, etc

[whitney]

Used for drug trafficking. JMO.
could it be that RC was trafficking drugs before and they reduced the charge to maintaining a drug vehicle, if so this is his second offense, no wonder he is resigned to being in jail for a long time. JMO

[DramaQueen]

http://wokv.com/localnews/2010/02/community-remembers-haleigh-cu.html

oops looks like TN and Marie/Crystal decided to have seperate vigils after all

[Diamond1]

She is sitting at home for one reason and one reason only , Haleigh went missing.Otherwise it would be her sitting in Mistys cell.

What reason are you talking about?

[DramaQueen]

I personally think she is fishing for someone to send her "homemade goodies", and of course, then she will thank them "on air".

It doesn't appear that they have missed too many meals, IMO.

LOL that's pretty much what I said yesterday

Minnow, with the way the charges have been filed against Ron, is there any danger of him running into the "three strikes and you're out" law? Prison for good no matter what?

[TBO]

I am not clear on it yet, either, could be any one of them, could be all three of them, could be one of them and someone else......but I bet that as soon as it sinks into Misty's pretty little (empty) head that she is facing up to 72 years and has a 1.35M bail figure, we will find out pretty quickly!

hammerhammer why why why do i have this visual of Misty making marks on the wall trying to figure out what her bail REALLLLLYYYY Is? LOL:laugh:

1.35 million divided by 10% = um, $25.00?

[datacop]

Fair enough , 12k is a lot of money though , that wasnt going to go away,only increase.Not any more it doesnt.

I'm really not sure on this, but from what was "heard" I'm thinking the amount they were actually "going after" was about 4k...

[DramaQueen]

hammerhammer why why why do i have this visual of Misty making marks on the wall trying to figure out what her bail REALLLLLYYYY Is? LOL:laugh:

1.35 million divided by 10% = um, $25.00?

LOL U funny

well at least she'll be honing her math skills, hey, whatever it takes

[TBO]

Its right there in the post , Haleigh went missing and so did Crystals worries,its been pointed out she may or may not have actually been incarcerated,the fact remains she was heavily in debt.

:scared:are you saying that Crystal was releaved that her CHILD went missing and that the LE's are targeting Misty so she's happy that she won't have to pay her child support owed?

[DramaQueen]

Lord girl, someone will correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that only applies to "violent" offenses. With a good lawyer, Ron won't really do that much time on these charges, but he will do some, IMO.


really ? only violent offenses? I thought it was anything that was a felony. Thanks.

[TBO]

I didnt say anything of the sort.You however have.

um, it was a question not a statement!

[TBO]

Again , i didnt say anything close to what you have.How would i know how Crystal feels ? So i cant answer your question.

yea ok thanks! NEXT..........................

[M*KAY]

Good Morning All!
Usually I dont watch ng anymore but last night it was on while i was working so I could hear some of misty's tapes and heard her whining about starving. I was so mad that whoever(i think Timmy's wife) was actually concerned.Then there goes nancy w/ misty's menu and her pathetic picture on the menu. Loved it!! misty just likes to cry for herself. Its part of her game and how she's gotten away w/ living the way she does.jmo

And I swear john talent (sp?) sound so familiar. The minute it was posted I've been trying to figure it out. ??

I believe tommy and misty are in this together, about Haleigh.imo. Maybe she left the kids w/ tommy and he had them back and forth walking the cut through between his place and rons place. But all this stuff w/ LE calls at tommys and tommy saying he was there at 10 pm. Lots of mini pieces of info that all surround that night and just so happens the same night Haleigh goes missing.Have a great day all!

Got to be Toby. :read:

Those two had a run in on the cut-through.
Neighbors called the cops.
1 hour later Ron gets home.
Misty calls 911.

MOO
sorry. hours behind again.

[DramaQueen]

ok I googled an in Florida it is violent offenses, and drug trafficking isn't one of them, should be, IMO, but it isn't. Kidnapping, however, does count as a violent offense. Among other obvious charges.

[Saint Viva]

http://wokv.com/localnews/2010/02/community-remembers-haleigh-cu.html

oops looks like TN and Marie/Crystal decided to have seperate vigils after all

Good, if I were Crystal I wouldnt want Rons side of the family anywhere around me-

jmo

[Elle]

Could anyone tell me what 'maintaining a drug vehicle' is or means?

Just curious.

My take/view/interpretation on it is when a car is used to house/transport drugs or as the place where an exchange involving drugs takes place. :shrug:

moo

[DramaQueen]

This is an old article and it may have changed.

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/01/State/Court_lets_3_strikes_.shtml

In my state it's 3 felonies and they don't have to be violent. To confuse the matter, at one point, also in my state drugs were considered a violent crime. Don't know if that's true today.

The law also makes possession of 25 pounds of marijuana enough to charge someone with trafficking - the prior minimum was 50 pounds ........good grief 25 pounds is ALOT!

Thanks for the article Grace, at any rate it doesn't appear that Ron or anyone else will be faced with any kind of three strikes law.

[DramaQueen]

and the dog tracks to....

Hey, did you ever wonder why the door on the "outbuilding" was open?
(I don't know what it is actually called, so I used the word "outbuilding", it may have been a shed, for all I know.)

which outbuilding was that? The only one I remember is the one strangely enough LE took Crystal to early on in the investigation

[need2no]

hammerhammer why why why do i have this visual of Misty making marks on the wall trying to figure out what her bail REALLLLLYYYY Is?

1.35 million divided by 10% = um, $25.00?


:lol:

18 years old now + 21 years in prison= 46 years old when I git outta here


(sorry had to steal a smilie)

[M*KAY]

Flashback to May 14, 2009

http://www.bloggernews.net/120885


Ironic that on Jan. 19,2010, Jerome is removed from St. John's prison where he was incarcerated for months, and shares prison space with one Ron Cummings. Coincidence?

:ohmy:

Do you believe in coincidences?
Can't say that I do. :shrug:

[DramaQueen]

Good, if I were Crystal I wouldnt want Rons side of the family anywhere around me-

jmo

(sigh) I probably wouldn't either, ok well I know I wouldn't, but you know sometime for the at least Jr's sake some sort of truce has to be called at some point. It would make sense to me if the grandmothers, Teresa and Marie, would set an example for others to follow, and at least be civil to each other. It hurts to be a child and know that the people you love most in the world, your family, hate each other.

[5boxersmom]

In case anyone missed it.

On now.


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett/2010/02/05/haleigh-cummings-update

[DramaQueen]

The one outside, in back, of the MH. Is that the same one?


no the one they took Crystal to was in the woods, near where they found that creepy twig chair, IIRC. I wonder what the family kept in the shed behind the MH, seems to me (and I am typing slowly while I try and remember) do I remember reading that the landlord had things stored in that shed? Maybe not

But if you saw the pics Ger took of the property, right to the right of that shed at the tree line is where I see the figure of a small girl child in a black shirt and brown capris, curled up laying on her side like she is asleep.

[Diamond1]

Its right there in the post , Haleigh went missing and so did Crystals worries,its been pointed out she may or may not have actually been incarcerated,the fact remains she was heavily in debt.

Debt is nothing compared to a missing child. It is harsh that you would suggest such a thing. Shame on you.:no:

[datacop]

Its strange how she is overlooked , apparantly entirely.Wasnt she due to go to jail for child support , something like $12,000.
Ironic she is the one not in jail and there appears to have been some money made off the back of haleighbug.com or the charity she had set up.Will that money ever be accounted for ?


O, she's not been overlooked. If you do a search on this forum and the other one bout HaLeigh, you should get page after page of Crystal and child support.

[HouseOfClark]

It didnt start out with an angle to Crystal being involved , just that its ironic how she is the only one that "benefits" as it were.
I do think we will be seeing a lot more of her in the future.

Benefits?

Was she clairvoyant to know that on or about 1/20/10, Ron would be arrested for drug trafficking and all she had to do was bide her time and she'd get (temporary) custody of the one child remaining?

[Justice4all]

Figures tied to Haleigh's case expect prison time

http://www.ocala.com/article/20100205/ARTICLES/2051007/1402/NEWS?p=1&tc=pg

Go to page two, Misty's attorney speaks about the release of the audio tapes - then speaks about the offer to bail her out on page 3.

Palatka attorney Robert Fields, who represents Misty Croslin, told The Sun on Thursday that "the new developments are unfortunate. My goal is to do what I can for Misty."

"As her lawyer, it's not how I wanted to start my day," Fields added in regard to the release of the audio recordings.

Fields said Thursday he would advise Misty Croslin to reject Leonard Padilla's offer. "I'm going to advise her against it because I think it would really hurt her," Fields said.

Not how he wanted to start his day - no kidding!

How much y'all want to bet that his client will not be agreeing with him that getting bailed out by Padilla would hurt her?

I think she has made it obvious she wants out, but I doubt she would agree to LP's conditions.

JMO
It would really hurt HER..........Hello Fields what about HALEIGH??


TY for the link and good afternoon everyone

[Saint Viva]

(sigh) I probably wouldn't either, ok well I know I wouldn't, but you know sometime for the at least Jr's sake some sort of truce has to be called at some point. It would make sense to me if the grandmothers, Teresa and Marie, would set an example for others to follow, and at least be civil to each other. It hurts to be a child and know that the people you love most in the world, your family, hate each other.

Really, but Crystal had to go to court to get phone contact with Jr when she did not have him, imagine how much hate and discord little HaLeigh see the Cummings have for her mommy? Crystal owes them nothing and should keep Junior away from them, hope she does- jmo

[Lynn Gweeny]

***

Does anyone know if they ever reported on the body that was found in Plant City? Did they ever identify it?

Remains of missing HCC student found in woods

http://plantcity2.tbo.com/content/2010/feb/04/remains-missing-hcc-student-found-woods/news/

[TBO]

In case anyone missed it.

On now.


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett/2010/02/05/haleigh-cummings-update

thanks,listening now

[5boxersmom]

Rumor of failed drug test. Can't find out because of DCF. :scared:

Maybe was a hearing Monday with Crystal and Ron. DCF.

jmo imo

[M*KAY]

I thought GGM said TN said Pop said to tell RC. Might not have anything to do with either Haleigh or the drugs. Just a reminder that there are snitches in every prison. JMO

:blink: J/k


Has anyone heard anything about how JR is doing at Crystal's? I sure hope he is enjoying his mama and baby sister. :)

[5boxersmom]

Sounds like there may be more Tommy tapes released.

jmo

[Saint Viva]

Rumor of failed drug test. Can't find out because of DCF. :scared:

Maybe was a hearing Monday with Crystal and Ron. DCF.

jmo imo

Can we get a link, no rumor talk allowed at all- TY, what news outlet is reporting this?

[HouseOfClark]

Can we get a link, no rumor talk allowed at all- TY, what news outlet is reporting this?

Sounds like it's coming from Simon's link. And TJ Hart.

So much for TJ's not wanting to get involved in drama. I guess he'd rather spout rumors on the radio as opposed to going on NG with them.

:shrug:

[Justice4all]

Sounds like there may be more Tommy tapes released.

jmo

I hope we get some more Tommy, Misty and Ron video's :)

[TBO]

Bring 'em on! These are the tapes that I want to hear.

;)

sounds like tommy is the only one concerned about other peeps unlike Misty!!!:cursing:

ppoooo baby ain't doing good behind bars!! HAHAHAHHA TOO BAD!!