14 year old Murders Parents Because He Didn't Want to Do Chores

[GentleBreeze]

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-chores-killing,0,4992410.story

MONTE VISTA, Colo. - A 14-year-old boy told investigators he killed his mother and stepfather because he didn't want to do household chores, then spent the evening watching movies and playing on a computer.

Authorities have charged John Caudle as an adult in the Oct. 26 slayings of 34-year-old Joanne Rinebarger and 38-year-old Tracy Rinebarger.

[RootBeer]

I don't understand what is happening to the children of this world. I have mixed feelings about juvenilles being charged as adults. This kid sounds like a monster but there could be more to the story. Very sad indeed.

[GentleBreeze]

I don't understand what is happening to the children of this world. I have mixed feelings about juveniles being charged as adults. This kid sounds like a monster but there could be more to the story. Very sad indeed.

I am not sure there will be more to this story. We see so many cases where parents are being murdered simply because the child did not like doing something. The MOs seem to be the same. They murder the parent or parents then go on with their lives and ride 4-wheelers, play video games or visit their friends afterward. It is chilling and these kids have no remorse.

I believe there are more and more fledgling psychopaths on our streets than ever before.

I have no problem with this kid being tried as an adult. The juvenile system simply doesn't work in these murder cases where it puts the murderer back out on the streets of society at the age of 18 imo.



imo

[cassidy]

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I hate to break it to this brainiac who thought he could get out of chores by killing Mom and StepDad, but he has a whole life of chores ahead of him.

And a nifty cage to live in and a very structured life. He's gonna wish he had his parents back.

IMO

[Shotzie]

I think alot of these teens play way too many Violent Video's that kill people all the time, an in their pee brain it is a game..til they actually do it and realize..this is for real my parents aren't coming back...Stop those violent video games would be a first step..I know it isn't PC correct..

[LisaM22]

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-chores-killing,0,4992410.story

MONTE VISTA, Colo. - A 14-year-old boy told investigators he killed his mother and stepfather because he didn't want to do household chores, then spent the evening watching movies and playing on a computer.

Authorities have charged John Caudle as an adult in the Oct. 26 slayings of 34-year-old Joanne Rinebarger and 38-year-old Tracy Rinebarger.

bet he is gonna love the chores he gets in Juvi

[GentleBreeze]

Video games are rated much the same way a film is rated. Parents should be monitoring what video games their children are playing.

I believe its called 'parenting.'

I don't think video games had anything to do with this double murder. I have yet to see any video game where the character kills parents to get out of doing chores.

The biggest problem I see here, other than the murders themselves, is a fourteen year old boy was able to access two .22 caliber pistols in his own home.

I think the parents were very prudent with the guns.

In an arrest affidavit, Caudle told investigators he took two .22 caliber pistols from a gun safe and shot his mother after the two argued over taking out the trash."

It isn't the guns that are causing these murders against parents. It is the mindset of the children who have murderous intentions.

imo

[Annie143]

Video games are rated much the same way a film is rated. Parents should be monitoring what video games their children are playing.

I believe its called 'parenting.'

I don't think video games had anything to do with this double murder. I have yet to see any video game where the character kills parents to get out of doing chores.

The biggest problem I see here, other than the murders themselves, is a fourteen year old boy was able to access two .22 caliber pistols in his own home. There is not as much oversight by parents as a person would like because a lot of the time, both parents are working and only have so much control.

But saying that just because the games dont actually portray a child killing their parents, it doesnt have anything to do with it. Thats bull. The games portray violence period. I watch my 14 yr old grandson constantly on violent games and his 6 yr old brother watches them because the mother is working. The 6 yr old speaks repeatedly of killing someone if they make him mad, wants a shotgun, knife, etc. He is only repeating what he sees.

Guns are not the sole problem, just accessible guns to a child steeped in visual violence. Who knows what he may have experienced by the stepfather......? Doesnt justify it but, we dont know the whole story.
Another story of a broken home, new rules, etc.

And, 14 is still a child.

JMO

[Annie143]

http://www.denverpost.com/news/frontpage/ci_13739347

much more info here and this happened in November (?). I think this kid had been through a lot. His mother doesnt sound too stable. She has a 13 yr old daughter that didn't live with her. All may not be as it sounds.
this kid is done for and he is going to be tried in an area that has high praise for the stepfather.

[GentleBreeze]

Here is another case where a child murdered his mother because he didn't want to do chores.

And this on is 12 years old.

Judge: 12-year-old boy killed mom after arguing over chores.

The boy is guilty of shooting his mother eight times in premeditated murder, a judge ruled after a court hearing on Friday.

Prosecutors said that after the boy argued with his mother, 34-year-old Sara Madrid, last August, she briefly left the family’s home in southern Arizona, the Associated Press reported. When she returned, the boy was waiting for her — with a .22-caliber pistol that he had gotten from her bedroom closet.

http://www.minortroubles.com/2009/01/03/judge-12-year-old-boy-killed-mom-after-arguing-over-chores/

[GentleBreeze]

http://www.denverpost.com/news/frontpage/ci_13739347

much more info here and this happened in November (?). I think this kid had been through a lot. His mother doesn't sound too stable. She has a 13 yr old daughter that didn't live with her. All may not be as it sounds.
this kid is done for and he is going to be tried in an area that has high praise for the stepfather.

Where does it say she had been unstable since she married her husband in 2005?

The letter noted broken relationships and struggles with drug abuse

"that forged a "bright, beautiful, independent and determined person."

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/frontpage/ci_13739347#ixzz0dpwSFg7V

[Details]

We had Lizzie Borden (and who knows how many others less infamous) long before video games. IMO - it's sociopaths. They can be born to anyone, or made under some circumstances, and when they don't get what they want, there is no limit to what they will do.

The guns should NOT have been accessible to a 14 year old boy - they were in a gunsafe -but that safe was obviously either unlocked, or they let him have the combo.

If what I've read about him having a lack of an emotional reaction is right - I'd expect to find he was a sociopath.

[Debb]

Details, you may be right. I guess we can't determine what causes sociopathy. It's such a terrible waste of life, not only for the young person, but his family.

I have been thinking about children lately as I watched the MTV show Teen Moms. It's reality documentary about three teens who have kept their babies: one placed theirs with an adoptive family.
The violence demonstrated in the presence of those children is incredible. (NOt the one with the adoptive parents, but the other 3.) I was horrified that people were filming this violence for tv and not doing anything to help the child. It wasn't just the teen parents, but the grandparents too that were out of control around the children.(Last week one grandparent was arrested for assault on her teen daughter.) Don't they know they are scarring the child's mind just the same as if they put a whip to them?

I don't know what happened with this 14 year old boy, but I think we must investigate to determine what factors are creating such young killers. If a child sees his parents physically or verbally tear each other apart from his birth, then I don't think it is a stretch for them to break out in violence as soon as they get big enough to do it.

[Annie143]

Where does it say she had been unstable since she married her husband in 2005?

The letter noted broken relationships and struggles with drug abuse

"that forged a "bright, beautiful, independent and determined person."

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/news/frontpage/ci_13739347#ixzz0dpwSFg7V I didnt say anything about instablity since 2005. But a history of drugs and instability prior to that time could have helped forge her sons personality. Lack of emotion may have meant that he was adept at compartilizing....

I am not suggesting or saying that this act was justified, just saying that we do not know what this kids life may have been like or what was going on currently. He will not survive in reg prison.

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Originally Posted by Annie143
http://www.denverpost.com/news/frontpage/ci_13739347

much more info here and this happened in November (?). I think this kid had been through a lot. His mother doesnt sound too stable. She has a 13 yr old daughter that didn't live with her. All may not be as it sounds.
this kid is done for and he is going to be tried in an area that has high praise for the stepfather.

Written by Rock Star "Not one mention of video games.

In fact... one of his fellow students had this to say:

"He would read and read and read" Not sure of your point. I was just responding to Shozie posts about video games and my own experience with some of the grandchildren.

Children in this day and age are bombarded with violence.

[camracrazy]

I'm not sure there is anything wrong with kids today that hasn't gone on for ages. I routinely read old newspapers from the 1800's and early 1900's (I do genealogy for myself and volunteer to do look-ups for other people). Just last night I was reading papers from 1923 and 1947. There was one story about a 21 year old man who sexually assaulted a 7 year old girl and then bashed her head in with a rock. She died. there was another about a teenage girl left alone with her 11 year old brother. She killed him because she thought her parents favored him. Wives killing husbands, husbands killing wives, women killing illegitimate babies (one woman threw her baby in the furnace of the apartment house she lived in). There is truly nothing new under the sun.

[Mamie]

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I hate to break it to this brainiac who thought he could get out of chores by killing Mom and StepDad, but he has a whole life of chores ahead of him.

And he'll never be his own boss!

[Details]

I'm not sure there is anything wrong with kids today that hasn't gone on for ages. I routinely read old newspapers from the 1800's and early 1900's (I do genealogy for myself and volunteer to do look-ups for other people). Just last night I was reading papers from 1923 and 1947. There was one story about a 21 year old man who sexually assaulted a 7 year old girl and then bashed her head in with a rock. She died. there was another about a teenage girl left alone with her 11 year old brother. She killed him because she thought her parents favored him. Wives killing husbands, husbands killing wives, women killing illegitimate babies (one woman threw her baby in the furnace of the apartment house she lived in). There is truly nothing new under the sun.Yep. People look at the past with rose colored glasses. It's not real. And modern communications and the Internet mean we hear about all of those crimes, even the ones that back then would only have shown up in the local newspaper, not nationally.

[withay]

Yep. People look at the past with rose colored glasses. It's not real. And modern communications and the Internet mean we hear about all of those crimes, even the ones that back then would only have shown up in the local newspaper, not nationally.

I agree, Details. The modern world has become so much smaller because of the immediacy of the media. We hear about murders and tragedies all over the world within hours or days of them happening and have color pictures available too. We probably know more about Lizzie Bordon and Jack the Ripper around the world than people did who were living when those things actually happened!

[Amy]

Why haven't we heard about this case since the murders happened in October 2009?
What a sick, lazy kid. He's being tried as an adult. He will never see freedom again. GOOD.

This case was on a thread last fall. I think it fell by the wayside since there was a gag order, and pretty much nothing had been reported since the funerals of the parents. I guess it's in the news again because of the ruling?

[GentleBreeze]

This case was on a thread last fall. I think it fell by the wayside since there was a gag order, and pretty much nothing had been reported since the funerals of the parents. I guess it's in the news again because of the ruling?

You are right Amy, I looked for the case and couldn't find it.

Also in the article I linked on the right side of the page it has "related links"

Related links
11-year old Set Mom on Fire in Dispute Over Cigarettes, Police say
Teen Gets 16 Years To Life For Killing Mother With Hammer
Teen Says He Didn't Hire Friend to Kill Strict Mom
Police: Son Asked Friend to Kill Parents
Teen Threatens Parents With Knives Over Cell Phone Minutes

It is so chilling to see that children want to murder for the simplest of things.

imo