Caylee Anthony - 1/26/10

[ellegna]

Morning everyone

Exciting day yesterday. Casey plead guilty and offered a short allocution. :thumbup:

Casey Anthony Pleads Guilty to Check Fraud

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20339291,00.html#facebook_comment

Short Video of sentencing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mwR98r9KDo&feature=player_embedded

How does felony conviction affect Casey Anthony murder trial?

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/01/how-does-felony-conviction-aff.html

[Emma's Ma]

Morning everyone

Exciting day yesterday. Casey plead guilty and offered a short allocution. :thumbup:

Casey Anthony Pleads Guilty to Check Fraud

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20339291,00.html#facebook_comment

Short Video of sentencing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mwR98r9KDo&feature=player_embedded

How does felony conviction affect Casey Anthony murder trial?

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2010/01/how-does-felony-conviction-aff.html

Good morning!! Thanks for the new thread...Very big day yesterday!!:biggrin:

[Scampi]

Morning Canada!! Thanks for those links, I'm still on a high from yesterday's court developments, especially that she is now a convicted felon and the Judge is making the defense prepare for trial.

Still cannot get over how abysmal baez is in the courtroom, it is amazing how ill prepared and yet pompous he is. casey sure picked herself a little winner there...........lol.

[Scampi]

Good morning to you too Emma and welcome to the board!!!

[Emma's Ma]

Good morning to you too Emma and welcome to the board!!!


Morning Scampi!! Thanks for the welcome!! I was commenting on yesterdays board about the tax thing with the Anthonys. I doubt they could claim their deadbeat daughter on their taxes, but you can be sure they claimed Caylee, for the child credit, that is about $3,500. They weren't going to let that go!! They were probably legit in doing so, if they supported Caylee, which I am sure for the most part they did...JMO

[Kathlb]

Good morning everyone.

It was a very good day yesterday! I wonder if Casey is feeling good this morning about owning up to something she did, possibly for the first time in her life? I guess not. If she is happy about it, it's probably because she feels it was a step toward getting out.

I sure hope we see the latent prints soon. I'm wondering if the pros. didn't tell the FBI to hang onto that info until they were ready to let it go to the defense and the public? It has to be Casey's otherwise they would have passed the info on in discovery like they did other things. And the FBI would have had that info back to them long ago.

[Emma's Ma]

Good morning everyone.

It was a very good day yesterday! I wonder if Casey is feeling good this morning about owning up to something she did, possibly for the first time in her life? I guess not. If she is happy about it, it's probably because she feels it was a step toward getting out.

I sure hope we see the latent prints soon. I'm wondering if the pros. didn't tell the FBI to hang onto that info until they were ready to let it go to the defense and the public? It has to be Casey's otherwise they would have passed the info on in discovery like they did other things. And the FBI would have had that info back to them long ago.

Ya know...The def whining about not getting all the discovery is getting on my nerves!! The pros has handed over about 90% of what they had and the def has handed very little if any discovery at all!! They did email the addresses over yesterday, just before court, which I thought was just part of their little game...WTH?? when are they going to start playing by the rules?? Lets see what happens Feb. 1...What stall technique will they use then?? :glare: jmo

[farrahrani]

Good morning people!

Welcome to the board Em, and as you said, I have no problem with them claiming the tax credit for Caylee, as they were most certainly supporting her.

I'm not going to read too much into the latent print issue. Like was said yesterday, it might be that the evidence is inconclusive, and that is why prosecution is not pushing the FBI for it. After all, they said they gave the defense everything that they had. So if it's supposed to be so important, I can't see them not all over the FBI for it.

It might be that something was TESTED for latent prints and there were none, or completely unrecognizable from weather damage or smudging.

I also don't think the prosecution can influence the FBI to sit on evidence that needs to be shared with the defense. They are a separate legal entity, and it wouldn't make sense for them to favor one side or the other. Also the fact that this can be an issue for defense to drag things out and whine whine whine in court, or grounds for a postponement while they have their ''experts'' look over delayed evidence. Like ''Judge'' (:tonguewag:) explained so carefully to Jose yesterday, Mr. First Hispanic Death Penalty Lawyer needs to deal with those agencies himself, rather than lay blame at the prosecutions doorstep.

[ellegna]

Ya know...The def whining about not getting all the discovery is getting on my nerves!! The pros has handed over about 90% of what they had and the def has handed very little if any discovery at all!! They did email the addresses over yesterday, just before court, which I thought was just part of their little game...WTH?? when are they going to start playing by the rules?? Lets see what happens Feb. 1...What stall technique will they use then?? :glare: jmo

Welcome Emma :seeya:

bbm...mine too

Isn't it ironic the defense keeps whining about wanting discovery/evidence yet they are constantly broadcasting to the media they have evidence that will exonerate Casey?
Well then hand it over. :sneaky:

[Emma's Ma]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583839,00.html?test=latestnews

Here's the link to the fox story about Kronk. Yes there is a pic of Caylee and it looks like there is a tooth, maybe 2 missing?? Disturbing...never saw that pic before...:ohmy:

jmo

[kOOkie1]

Morning!!
YES it was a great day yesterday!! Justice for Amy..the State and us of course:tonguewag:
Im sure she thought long and hard on what to say to Strickland..maybe she thought Amy would be there?
I hope she stands before him again..whenever that may be and admits she should have been a better "mother"...
Sadly, that aint gonna happen ..but one can dream!

[Scampi]

Morning Scampi!! Thanks for the welcome!! I was commenting on yesterdays board about the tax thing with the Anthonys. I doubt they could claim their deadbeat daughter on their taxes, but you can be sure they claimed Caylee, for the child credit, that is about $3,500. They weren't going to let that go!! They were probably legit in doing so, if they supported Caylee, which I am sure for the most part they did...JMO

I have long wanted the IRS to look into the tax records of the anthonys. I do believe there is a treasure trove of irregularities.

I am a tad confused by the latent print reports. If they indeed do belong to the accused babykiller why on earth would the prosecution hide that fact? Seems to me they would want that information known to the public.

It makes more sense to me that the latent prints may not belong to casey anthony. Time will tell I guess.

As for the defense dragging their feet on things, I think that is due to them being incompetent rather then trying to gain a technical advantage on the prosecutors.

baez is the absolute worst attorney I have ever seen in a courtroom.

IMO

[Emma's Ma]

Welcome Emma :seeya:

bbm...mine too

Isn't it ironic the defense keeps whining about wanting discovery/evidence yet they are constantly broadcasting to the media they have evidence that will exonerate Casey?
Well then hand it over. :sneaky:

I know, right?? What is up with that?? Unbelievable...:angry: jmo

Thanks for the welcome!! Been lurking for years, finally decided to jump in!! I have kinda been lurking since the Michael Jackson child molestation...Feel like I am part of the gang!!! Thanks again!!

[Emma's Ma]

I have long wanted the IRS to look into the tax records of the anthonys. I do believe there is a treasure trove of irregularities.

I am a tad confused by the latent print reports. If they indeed do belong to the accused babykiller why on earth would the prosecution hide that fact? Seems to me they would want that information known to the public.

It makes more sense to me that the latent prints may not belong to casey anthony. Time will tell I guess.

As for the defense dragging their feet on things, I think that is due to them being incompetent rather then trying to gain a technical advantage on the prosecutors.

baez is the absolute worst attorney I have ever seen in a courtroom.
IMO

bbm....ITA

[Scampi]

Morning!!
YES it was a great day yesterday!! Justice for Amy..the State and us of course:tonguewag:
Im sure she thought long and hard on what to say to Strickland..maybe she thought Amy would be there?
I hope she stands before him again..whenever that may be and admits she should have been a better "mother"...
Sadly, that aint gonna happen ..but one can dream!

I thought her little speech was woefully inadequate. Minimizing her actions to that of a bad friend, when in reality she committed grand theft and a evil betrayal of a good friend to her.

It was nauseating watching her cry for herself, again.

[Marrigan]

I thought her little speech was woefully inadequate. Minimizing her actions to that of a bad friend, when in reality she committed grand theft and a evil betrayal of a good friend to her.

It was nauseating watching her cry for herself, again.

You took the words right off my keyboard!!
Casey's demeanor was not that of a contrite penitent.
Where was the humility?
All I saw was more stoic defiance. "Yup. Yup. I did it. BFD. Throw time served at me. BFD. Yup, I did it. BFD."
And then the tears for herself. "That was the HARDEST thing I've ever had to do!"
I believe it, since she'll never be accused of being a hard-working, conscientious mommy.

But that wasn't the real reason why Casey wasn't a "better friend" to Amy. Caylee was dead, and can you imagine Amy coming to grips with the fact that Casey never displayed any grief? That's what would freak me out if I was Amy. How does a person kill their child and keep up such an incredible charade? It's beyond creepy.

[ellegna]

I have long wanted the IRS to look into the tax records of the anthonys. I do believe there is a treasure trove of irregularities.

I am a tad confused by the latent print reports. If they indeed do belong to the accused babykiller why on earth would the prosecution hide that fact? Seems to me they would want that information known to the public.

It makes more sense to me that the latent prints may not belong to casey anthony. Time will tell I guess.

As for the defense dragging their feet on things, I think that is due to them being incompetent rather then trying to gain a technical advantage on the prosecutors.

baez is the absolute worst attorney I have ever seen in a courtroom.

IMO

bbm
There my friend we disagree
Why announce to the public the prints belong to Casey giving the defense ample time to come up with an explanation or file more motions to delay so their experts can examine?
I would rather the pros disclose this evidence during the trial. One of those AHA! Gotcha moments.

[kOOkie1]

You took the words right off my keyboard!!
Casey's demeanor was not that of a contrite penitent.
Where was the humility?
All I saw was more stoic defiance. "Yup. Yup. I did it. BFD. Throw time served at me. BFD. Yup, I did it. BFD."
And then the tears for herself. "That was the HARDEST thing I've ever had to do!"
I believe it, since she'll never be accused of being a hard-working, conscientious mommy.

But that wasn't the real reason why Casey wasn't a "better friend" to Amy. Caylee was dead, and can you imagine Amy coming to grips with the fact that Casey never displayed any grief? That's what would freak me out if I was Amy. How does a person kill their child and keep up such an incredible charade? It's beyond creepy.

I so agree with you!
Ummm ahhh remember Baez said Casey has been waiting to take responsibility for what she did and to Amy..dontcha kno:bored:

[BlueCrush]

Morning Canada!! Thanks for those links, I'm still on a high from yesterday's court developments, especially that she is now a convicted felon and the Judge is making the defense prepare for trial.

Still cannot get over how abysmal baez is in the courtroom, it is amazing how ill prepared and yet pompous he is. casey sure picked herself a little winner there...........lol.




I have to agree with you Scampi. Today just seems a little bit brighter knowing she is a CF now

good morning everyone......new post at the Hinkey Meter, quite funny

[trich]

I have long wanted the IRS to look into the tax records of the anthonys. I do believe there is a treasure trove of irregularities.

I am a tad confused by the latent print reports. If they indeed do belong to the accused babykiller why on earth would the prosecution hide that fact? Seems to me they would want that information known to the public.

It makes more sense to me that the latent prints may not belong to casey anthony. Time will tell I guess.

As for the defense dragging their feet on things, I think that is due to them being incompetent rather then trying to gain a technical advantage on the prosecutors.

baez is the absolute worst attorney I have ever seen in a courtroom.

IMO

I agree I do not think the latent prints belong to Casey.
If the prosecution knew such I think the whole world
would know it.
I just can't imagine why that would be kept secret.
Heck if the prints were hers I would want the defense to know
and maybe they would get Casey to admit her guilt and save the
state a trial.
Well I can always wish LOL

[Pruddennce]

brought over...

Wonder why George hated him so in the beginning?

Lynx, IMO because George and Cindy were SHUT OUT of the lawyering up process.....loss of control....GA was trying to talk her into speaking with him and LE WITHOUT a lawyer present.....so did Lee...

GA lamented to LE that he was suspect of Baez, because Baez told GA casey HIRED him and that she had some money...that infuriated GA because she didnt have any money and of course, Baez would be looking to them for payment.....which he is probably doing again because all he talks about is MONEY...

I bet the entire defense team are in the process of conning the anthonys out of their bloodmoney....I say go for it.....experts are not cheap and hey where is Henry Lee now?

he's busy. I bet they are shopping around for another 'consultant' and arent getting any bites looking for a FREEBIE expert....

look at that tone of the hearings.....MONEY MONEY MONEY....and the trial hasnt begun...

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[Scampi]

bbm
There my friend we disagree
Why announce to the public the prints belong to Casey giving the defense ample time to come up with an explanation or file more motions to delay so their experts can examine?
I would rather the pros disclose this evidence during the trial. One of those AHA! Gotcha moments.


You have a reasonable explanation there Canada. Thank goodness, we have avoided our first little spat....... :wub:

Seriously tho, I hope you are right, but remember in Florida the discovery rules are there to avoid either side from being blindsided during the trial.

[BlueCrush]

I thought her little speech was woefully inadequate. Minimizing her actions to that of a bad friend, when in reality she committed grand theft and a evil betrayal of a good friend to her.

It was nauseating watching her cry for herself, again.

Hey Scampi,
I just caught your new sig line..."Muck" that is great

is there a thread for the most dumbest things ever said in this case?
Muck
Mother of the Yr
I was given a script

you get my point, I would be here all day if I had to list them all

[LadyHam]

I thought her little speech was woefully inadequate. Minimizing her actions to that of a bad friend, when in reality she committed grand theft and a evil betrayal of a good friend to her.

It was nauseating watching her cry for herself, again.

I couldn't agree w/you more. Casey's apology to Amy y-day in court was sorely lacking. She went above and beyond being a bad friend to Amy. Casey's actions are going to cause financial and credit problems for Amy for years to come. Casey is only sorry that she got caught and had to admit responsibility. If Casey was so sorry about what she did to Amy, then she would have taken responsibility for it right away and not initially entered a not guilty plea. Casey only pleaded guilty to these charges when her back was pushed up against the wall and she had no other viable options.

[ellegna]

You have a reasonable explanation there Canada. Thank goodness, we have avoided our first little spat....... :wub:

Seriously tho, I hope you are right, but remember in Florida the discovery rules are there to avoid either side from being blindsided during the trial.

Spat with you? Never :wub:

For arguments sake. Let's assume those prints do belong to Casey and the pros have released that evidence to the duhfense.
Do you believe that is something team Casey would want to go public?

This evidence, if released to the public, would surely prejudice any potential jury candidates.

IIRC Florida discovery rules state some evidence is exempt from being made public. This may be one of those exemptions

[Ladygator]

Morning everyone!

I'm playing catch up!

Yippie!! Casey is a convicted felon. Stan the Man wouldn't allow for adjudication to be withheld on all 13 counts! Good deal!!

Baez, um, all I can say is the murder trial is going to take a lot longer because of him. Can't he just say what he wants to say? Spit it out? Make it coherent?

He sounded very foolish talking about the fraud charges being unfair to Casey because she was unpopular. That the crimes were overcharged, bla, bla, bla. FGS, game over, Baez - she just plead guilty to all 13 of them.

We're going to have to listen to this man in a murder trial. Scary thought!! Maybe by then someone will clue him in on how to use the word 'muck' or 'amuck'.:lol:

[Lavinya]

About the missing tooth Gilly was asking about, I don't think she had a tooth missing while she was alive, it's that they found all but one tooth among all her remains where she was dumped like garbage.

[Lavinya]

I woke up all pizzed off again about The Thony's denying Casey's pregnancy. You know, if my young daughter was pregnant, that would be one thing, but if I thought she had a growing TUMOR in her belly, that would be a horse of a different color! Of course I would have her to the Dr. before another day went by under either condition but a TUMOR and they're traipsing around to a wedding?!? The day I realized my daughter's belly had swelling is the day we would be at the Dr. and if we couldn't get in the Dr. THAT DAY, I would imagine we would be at the ER until I was sure my child was not freaking DYING! GMAB. I don't know who was zooming who, but someone was. (Wow, I really woke up angry, lol.)

[cassidy]

I woke up all pizzed off again about The Thony's denying Casey's pregnancy. You know, if my young daughter was pregnant, that would be one thing, but if I thought she had a growing TUMOR in her belly, that would be a horse of a different color! Of course I would have her to the Dr. before another day went by under either condition but a TUMOR and they're traipsing around to a wedding?!? The day I realized my daughter's belly had swelling is the day we would be at the Dr. and if we couldn't get in the Dr. THAT DAY, I would imagine we would be at the ER until I was sure my child was not freaking DYING! GMAB. I don't know who was zooming who, but someone was. (Wow, I really woke up angry, lol.)

Don't get angry Lavinya. Cindy knew exactly what was happening with Casey's belly. She was just trying to fool the rest of the world. The lack of pre-natal care, now that's a different story.

JMO

[jammies]

Don't get angry Lavinya. Cindy knew exactly what was happening with Casey's belly. She was just trying to fool the rest of the world. The lack of pre-natal care, now that's a different story.

JMO


She didn't need prenatal care when CINDY KNOWS EVERYTHING. :rolleyes:

[Lavinya]

She didn't need prenatal care when CINDY KNOWS EVERYTHING. :rolleyes:

But Cindy said she thought it was a tumor (didn't she, or did she say "female trouble" and Uncle Rick is the one who assumed "tumor"?:confused:). Even if it wasn't a cancerous tumor and Cindy the surgeon and pathologist would know, lol, that even a benign tumor of that size can impinge on other organs and cause major health problems. Nah, we need a trial for this pregnancy story, lol.

[jammies]

But Cindy said she thought it was a tumor (didn't she, or did she say "female trouble" and Uncle Rick is the one who assumed "tumor"?:confused:). Even if it wasn't a cancerous tumor and Cindy the surgeon and pathologist would know, lol, that even a benign tumor of that size can impinge on other organs and cause major health problems. Nah, we need a trial for this pregnancy story, lol.

Cindy could be declared an "unfit mother". George Marie would have to go to foster care. :blink:

[*MoonRider*]

Spat with you? Never :wub:

For arguments sake. Let's assume those prints do belong to Casey and the pros have released that evidence to the duhfense.
Do you believe that is something team Casey would want to go public?

This evidence, if released to the public, would surely prejudice any potential jury candidates.

IIRC Florida discovery rules state some evidence is exempt from being made public. This may be one of those exemptions

My take on the latents is that LKB wanted all FBI field notes regarding such and the FBI won't turn the info over. moo

[Ladygator]

But Cindy said she thought it was a tumor (didn't she, or did she say "female trouble" and Uncle Rick is the one who assumed "tumor"?:confused:). Even if it wasn't a cancerous tumor and Cindy the surgeon and pathologist would know, lol, that even a benign tumor of that size can impinge on other organs and cause major health problems. Nah, we need a trial for this pregnancy story, lol.

DIdn't Cindy at some point say she knew Casey's menstrual situation and was buying feminine products during that time?

:rolleyes: Classic Cindy, there.

[marinewife5]

But Cindy said she thought it was a tumor (didn't she, or did she say "female trouble" and Uncle Rick is the one who assumed "tumor"?:confused:). Even if it wasn't a cancerous tumor and Cindy the surgeon and pathologist would know, lol, that even a benign tumor of that size can impinge on other organs and cause major health problems. Nah, we need a trial for this pregnancy story, lol.

That whole pregnancy debacle shows that from the very beginning, casey and the family image ranked much higher than caylee's health and wellbeing. So much for the excuse that the anthony's are grieving "in their own way". Caylee was nothing but a "tumor" to these people. Now I'm mad too. Actually I was mad already about Jose "reaching out" to Amy. Leave the girl alone! I don't care who casey wants to be friends with!

jmo

[Dunlurken]

Did you guys see the Today show this morning? Interesting there is a play in London called TotMom, always sold out. NG said "no comment" since she is apparently the one who coined the phrase. JMO.

Morning all.

[cassidy]

DIdn't Cindy at some point say she knew Casey's menstrual situation and was buying feminine products during that time?

:rolleyes: Classic Cindy, there.

We must keep in mind that Cindy LIES often. Casey had to learn it somewhere, didn't she?

JMO

[jammies]

That whole pregnancy debacle shows that from the very beginning, casey and the family image ranked much higher than caylee's health and wellbeing. So much for the excuse that the anthony's are grieving "in their own way". Caylee was nothing but a "tumor" to these people. Now I'm mad too. Actually I was mad already about Jose "reaching out" to Amy. Leave the girl alone! I don't care who casey wants to be friends with!

jmo

Did you watch Jose on JVM last night? His blathering about how Casey had always been sorry about STEALING from Amy, how she lost a good friend, etc. He made it sound like she has so many GOOD friends and was sorry she lost ONE. Dream on, Jose.

[trich]

You know I really think Baez is all about himself.
But has not got sense enough to realize he looks and acts
like a fool.
His stupid joke about "reasonable bond"was beyond unprofessional,
IMO it was stupid.
Also the remark that people are prejudice agaisnt Casey ....welll duh
There are pictures of all over of her stealing Amy's money and people
will never get over her child being missing for 31 days before she admitted to such.
That alone I think justifies what most think about her.
Also that lovey dovey crap between the Anthonys and Baez and co.
was so disgusting and so done for the cameras ....do they think we
are all stupid as they are?
Oh well enough of my rant.
I hope we are all still alive by time this murder trial starts.
No less finishes.

[*MoonRider*]

That whole pregnancy debacle shows that from the very beginning, casey and the family image ranked much higher than caylee's health and wellbeing. So much for the excuse that the anthony's are grieving "in their own way". Caylee was nothing but a "tumor" to these people. Now I'm mad too. Actually I was mad already about Jose "reaching out" to Amy. Leave the girl alone! I don't care who casey wants to be friends with!
jmo

Didn't the Judge say "no contact" with the victim, Amy :shrug:

[jammies]

Didn't the Judge say "no contact" with the victim, Amy :shrug:


He sure did.

[LadyHam]

Don't get angry Lavinya. Cindy knew exactly what was happening with Casey's belly. She was just trying to fool the rest of the world. The lack of pre-natal care, now that's a different story.

JMO

I think the Anthony's were just playing chicken w/each other. Cindy knew that Casey was pregnant, how could she not? She was just waiting for Casey to admit it. Casey took it as far as she could and had to know that her parents were on to her. How Cindy could let Casey go on w/out getting prenatal care is such gross negligence on her part, especially given the fact that she is a nurse. Maybe Cindy wanted Casey to go to the wedding because she knew in part that she would finally be called out on her pregnancy? :shrug:

[Scampi]

Hey Scampi,
I just caught your new sig line..."Muck" that is great

is there a thread for the most dumbest things ever said in this case?
Muck
Mother of the Yr
I was given a script

you get my point, I would be here all day if I had to list them all

Hiya Blue, it's true there have been some real gems flying out of the mouths in this case. One day we really should list them all.

:seeya:

[BettyC]

Cindy (on camera anyway) had this bizarre glow to her yesterday. I have no doubt she was playing for the camera also. She knows exactly where it is and looks directly into it.

I know there have been reports that she was trembling, but I think she is putting on an act and loving the attention given to her. (i.e. strangers in court who for some reason feel compelled to speak to her and to compliment her.)

Her statement that she hadn't heard Casey's voice for over a year was so similar to her tears in court at the bond hearing. "I haven't seen Caylee, I mean Casey, for a week." What about the previous MONTH you hadn't seen Casey? What about that Cindy?

She can hear Casey's voice any time she wants to either by visiting her or going to youtube and playing her x-rated rants over and over.

[cassidy]

I think the Anthony's were just playing chicken w/each other. Cindy knew that Casey was pregnant, how could she not? She was just waiting for Casey to admit it. Casey took it as far as she could and had to know that her parents were on to her. How Cindy could let Casey go on w/out getting prenatal care is such gross negligence on her part, especially given the fact that she is a nurse. Maybe Cindy wanted Casey to go to the wedding because she knew in part that she would finally be called out on her pregnancy? :shrug:

That part boggles my mind.

[achristie]

Tough day for the A's yesterday. KC's apology fell waay short. She memorized the script provided by her attorneys, took a deep breath, and delivered. KC 's manner of dress made her look small and vulnerable, and Andrea's protective hovering was designed to bring home that point. After listening to the tapes of AL at the conference, I find it hard to think she has an empathetic bone in her body. It's all about HER. She even brought that into play yesterday when she sweetly told the judge she got someone else to teach her class that day. Ya think Judge Stan gives a hoot about that? As for CA trembling? She and her daughter's back were to the wall for the first time, officially. There was no way out.

MOO Aggie

[Lavinya]

Cindy could be declared an "unfit mother". George Marie would have to go to foster care. :blink:

:lol: Or the pound.

[LadyHam]

Didn't the Judge say "no contact" with the victim, Amy :shrug:

Yes he did. JB "reaching out" to Amy was just his attempt to minimize what Casey did to her. He's not fooling anybody.

[marinewife5]

Did you watch Jose on JVM last night? His blathering about how Casey had always been sorry about STEALING from Amy, how she lost a good friend, etc. He made it sound like she has so many GOOD friends and was sorry she lost ONE. Dream on, Jose.

I didn't see JVM, but read some "reviews". If Casey was so sorry about stealing, this could have been resolved and out of the way a long time ago. She was sorry because the defense's back was against the wall on these charges. If you and I have an arguement and I tell you I'm sorry that's one thing. If I tell you sorry because you've wrestled me down and have my head over a fireant hill, am I sorry, or do I just prefer not to have my face covered in fireants? Casey was just hoping to avoid the embarassment of a public trial on these charges.

She has NO friends. Jose himself described her best when he called her "unpopular".

jmo

[Scampi]

But Cindy said she thought it was a tumor (didn't she, or did she say "female trouble" and Uncle Rick is the one who assumed "tumor"?:confused:). Even if it wasn't a cancerous tumor and Cindy the surgeon and pathologist would know, lol, that even a benign tumor of that size can impinge on other organs and cause major health problems. Nah, we need a trial for this pregnancy story, lol.

Morning Grumpy! Didn't know it all cynthia say something along the lines of casey has female problems, just like I have when my stomach swells every month?

IMO, cynthia could keep an entire psych service busy for a very long time, she is certifiable.

[marinewife5]

Didn't the Judge say "no contact" with the victim, Amy :shrug:

yup. and as i understand things, jose is an agent for casey. therefore, he was acting on casey's behalf.

jmo

[GumShoeJoe]

I think the Anthony's were just playing chicken w/each other. Cindy knew that Casey was pregnant, how could she not? She was just waiting for Casey to admit it. Casey took it as far as she could and had to know that her parents were on to her. How Cindy could let Casey go on w/out getting prenatal care is such gross negligence on her part, especially given the fact that she is a nurse. Maybe Cindy wanted Casey to go to the wedding because she knew in part that she would finally be called out on her pregnancy? :shrug:

That is an interesting way to put it. Makes sense, and thinking about it, the same thing was true when Casey took the police to Universal. Went with the lie until she couldn't any more. Sounds to me like they might all be doing the same thing about Caylee.

[Lavinya]

I think the Anthony's were just playing chicken w/each other. Cindy knew that Casey was pregnant, how could she not? She was just waiting for Casey to admit it. Casey took it as far as she could and had to know that her parents were on to her. How Cindy could let Casey go on w/out getting prenatal care is such gross negligence on her part, especially given the fact that she is a nurse. Maybe Cindy wanted Casey to go to the wedding because she knew in part that she would finally be called out on her pregnancy? :shrug:

I can see playing that game for, oh 10 MINUTES, lol, but it was far past time for someone to nut up and blink. I realize I'm stating the obvious and regurgitating it all over again but for some reason I'm getting stuck on this today. Quick, someone punch me! :tongue:

[Ladygator]

We must keep in mind that Cindy LIES often. Casey had to learn it somewhere, didn't she?

JMO

Cindy has an explaination for EVERYTHING. Doesn't matter that her words don't make a lick of sense, most of the time.

[cassidy]

I can see playing that game for, oh 10 MINUTES, lol, but it was far past time for someone to nut up and blink. I realize I'm stating the obvious and regurgitating it all over again but for some reason I'm getting stuck on this today. Quick, someone punch me! :tongue:


:punch::punch:
There. You should be OK now.

[Lavinya]

Morning Grumpy! Didn't know it all cynthia say something along the lines of casey has female problems, just like I have when my stomach swells every month?

IMO, cynthia could keep an entire psych service busy for a very long time, she is certifiable.

:mad: (This is my face all day)

I understand when you are really close to a situation you sometimes don't see the problem. I had an example in my own oldest child. He was about 3 months old and we had driven to see my grandmother. She told me she thought he was holding his head to one side too much. We had just never noticed. When he was *ripped asunder* from my body with forceps (still bitter? lol), it tore some of the muscles on one side of his neck and it healed just with me engaging him more on one side making him exercise it, etc., but you bet your sweet bippy once someone pointed it out to me, he was at the pedi the very next day! But my son's problem was much more subtle and that was the only way we knew him. (His pedi hadn't ever picked up on it either when he went for well visits.)

If Cindy didn't know, (and oh how I would love to know what she was thinking) she has the mental defense mechanisms of a ninja or a rock. Can't decide.

[DoubleFelix]

Tough day for the A's yesterday. KC's apology fell waay short. She memorized the script provided by her attorneys, took a deep breath, and delivered. KC 's manner of dress made her look small and vulnerable, and Andrea's protective hovering was designed to bring home that point. After listening to the tapes of AL at the conference, I find it hard to think she has an empathetic bone in her body. It's all about HER. She even brought that into play yesterday when she sweetly told the judge she got someone else to teach her class that day. Ya think Judge Stan gives a hoot about that? As for CA trembling? She and her daughter's back were to the wall for the first time, officially. There was no way out.

MOO Aggie

As I watched Cindy during the hearing I was HOPING she was thinking that if she had not let Casey's stealing go without punishment, this may not be happening. Now I can let myself believe her trembling was for this very reason (I'm very good at convincing myself of what I want to believe lol)

[Lavinya]

:punch::punch:
There. You should be OK now.

Thanks for rebooting me, Cass! :wub:

[bumblebea]

does anyone have a link to the JVM interview from last night.. I missed it

[spiritwolf46]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,583839,00.html?test=latestnews

Here's the link to the fox story about Kronk. Yes there is a pic of Caylee and it looks like there is a tooth, maybe 2 missing?? Disturbing...never saw that pic before...:ohmy:

jmo

Good morning all! Good morning and WELCOME, Emma and thanks for that link!

I have not seen that pic of Caylee before either and WHY on earth, at her age, would she be missing teeth???? I wonder if she had something wrong with her teeth, like to soft????

[BettyC]

does anyone have a link to the JVM interview from last night.. I missed it

Here's the transcript bumblebea.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/25/ijvm.01.html

[bumblebea]

Thank you so much BettyC

[*MoonRider*]

As I watched Cindy during the hearing I was HOPING she was thinking that if she had not let Casey's stealing go without punishment, this may not be happening. Now I can let myself believe her trembling was for this very reason (I'm very good at convincing myself of what I want to believe lol)

I think she was trembling because the entire world knows that her evil spawn Casey is a convicted felon. The first of many family secrets has been told and the worse is yet to come.

[BettyC]

I think she was trembling because the entire world knows that her evil spawn Casey is a convicted felon. The first of many family secrets has been told and the worse is yet to come.

I was thinking that way also but she could have been crying because it's the first time EVER that Casey admitted to doing something wrong.

(Of course it was the big bad evil prosecutors who made her face up to it.)

The pathetic speech Casey gave could have been substituted with -

My bad.

[marinewife5]

And while my panties are still in a bunch this morning, let me say this: Regarding the Oakridge results that the defense is still lamenting on, the science of analyzing the air in the car is a "young" science (not to mention the fact that it is moot in this case, as they were brought in to confirm that LE was looking for a deceased child, not a live one) and with that science still being largely in the developmental stage, it is logical they would not want their research as a whole out there as nothing more than fodder for defense attorneys at this point. I also believe that the defense only wants every little detail to go along with their "junk science" defense. I do not believe the prosecution is hiding anything from Oakridge, and Oakridge themselves are just trying to preserve the integrity of their research. The time will come that the science will have to withstand defense scrutiny, but it is unreasonable to expect that while the procedure is still being developed.

Regarding the FBI information (i.e. latent prints), IIRC, the FBI got involved because it was alleged that caylee was taken over state lines. OCSD did have them test some items and the prosecution may have those items, but those findings are for the FBI to give to the defense, not for the prosecution to hand over.

Of course, both situations have been "resolved" in court and the mention of them at the hearing yesterday was for the benefit of those not following the case (fingers crossed that someone heard it and wasn't aware that the court had already addressed those points).

Grow up, Jose. The State of Florida is trying to kill your client, so put on your big boy pants and work as hard as you are claiming to.

jmo

[Ladygator]

I think she was trembling because the entire world knows that her evil spawn Casey is a convicted felon. The first of many family secrets has been told and the worse is yet to come.

:thumbsup: I agree with you.

Cindy's rambled on about her perfect Casey for so long.

[oswald]

Morning all - I think your right about the IRS - the A's troubles are long from over

Has there been any articles on body language yet?? What about that little laugh episode Casey had behind her kleenex? Someone posted a picture here yesterday

I have long wanted the IRS to look into the tax records of the anthonys. I do believe there is a treasure trove of irregularities.

I am a tad confused by the latent print reports. If they indeed do belong to the accused babykiller why on earth would the prosecution hide that fact? Seems to me they would want that information known to the public.

It makes more sense to me that the latent prints may not belong to casey anthony. Time will tell I guess.

As for the defense dragging their feet on things, I think that is due to them being incompetent rather then trying to gain a technical advantage on the prosecutors.

baez is the absolute worst attorney I have ever seen in a courtroom.

IMO

[marinewife5]

:thumbsup: I agree with you.

Cindy's rambled on about her perfect Casey for so long.

and we've heard so much about how casey is just like her, from her's and george's own mouths

jmo

[*MoonRider*]

Jane Velez Mitchell last night part 1 Jose Baez

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/9/OwZxxAXxq4U

[oswald]

What kind of nurse was Cindy? I know she administrative in FL - was she a practicing nurse in a hospital or doctors office where she saw actual patients? With a protruding belly and saying that Casey only had 'female problems' makes me wonder what kind of nurse was she? and if that was female problems, she should have driven Casey to the emergency room right then, cause a protruding belly and looking pregnant and NOT being pregnant is a problem!

Morning Grumpy! Didn't know it all cynthia say something along the lines of casey has female problems, just like I have when my stomach swells every month?

IMO, cynthia could keep an entire psych service busy for a very long time, she is certifiable.

[Scampi]

What kind of nurse was Cindy? I know she administrative in FL - was she a practicing nurse in a hospital or doctors office where she saw actual patients? With a protruding belly and saying that Casey only had 'female problems' makes me wonder what kind of nurse was she? and if that was female problems, she should have driven Casey to the emergency room right then, cause a protruding belly and looking pregnant and NOT being pregnant is a problem!

IIRC, her actual clinical experience was that she was a nurse for an orthopedic physician and helped prepare casts.

[Dunlurken]

Here's the transcript bumblebea.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1001/25/ijvm.01.html

From the link:

"You know, it was a mistake she made, and today she lived up to it and apologized for it. And she`s always been very sorry and lost a friend as a result of this, and hoping in some way, shape or form that her friend will forgive her."

I wanted to scream at the TV, when will she ask for forgiveness for (allegedly) murdering Caylee! JMO.
:mad:

[CRRJJ]

Wish I had a few more smarts about the legal profession, but to tell you the truth, some of it sounds like Greek to me so I don't understand a fraction of what they are saying. Thank the Lord for those of you who can decipher it for me. What I would like to know--did the Judge admonish Casey yesterday that she was NOT to have any contact with Amy? Is she going to stay in jail until the trial or is there a chance she will be allowed to run the streets until then?
The only thing I do understand about this mess is that she is a lying, thieving fraud with probably a murderer thrown in. Now that I understand. And Baez says she may take the stand and then all the truth will come out??????? where's that gonna come from?

[BettyC]

From the link:

"You know, it was a mistake she made, and today she lived up to it and apologized for it. And she`s always been very sorry and lost a friend as a result of this, and hoping in some way, shape or form that her friend will forgive her."

I wanted to scream at the TV, when will she ask for forgiveness for (allegedly) murdering Caylee! JMO.
:mad:

Not until she gets to the end of the loooooooooong hallway and the prosecutors have her back against the wall (again).

[jammies]

As I watched Cindy during the hearing I was HOPING she was thinking that if she had not let Casey's stealing go without punishment, this may not be happening. Now I can let myself believe her trembling was for this very reason (I'm very good at convincing myself of what I want to believe lol)


lol! I wish that Grandma had pressed charges. Cindy got to her. I would bet a zillion that Cindy tried to "get to" Amy too. I'm sure they all thought these charges would magically go POOF when they paid Amy off.

[jammies]

Jane Velez Mitchell last night part 1 Jose Baez

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947#p/u/9/OwZxxAXxq4U


You can't make me watch that again! :tonguewag:

[Dunlurken]

Not until she gets to the end of the loooooooooong hallway and the prosecutors have her back against the wall (again).

And a needle ready to go into her arm? Maybe then an apology? Sociopath personafide. That's all I can say. JMO.

[jammies]

and we've heard so much about how casey is just like her, from her's and george's own mouths

jmo


Part of my dream would be the Prosection bringing that up in closing arguments!

[oswald]

IIRC, her actual clinical experience was that she was a nurse for an orthopedic physician and helped prepare casts.

Okay thanks - another question - I'm sure ALL nurses go through the same training? I should say basic training, then they specialize? So she as a nurse going through this training SHOULD know the difference in preg and tumor AND decomp? Do we have any nurses or someone that has been through this kind of nurse training here??? I'm just curious - cause her excuses can only go so far before she's totally discredited

[oswald]

Wish I had a few more smarts about the legal profession, but to tell you the truth, some of it sounds like Greek to me so I don't understand a fraction of what they are saying. Thank the Lord for those of you who can decipher it for me. What I would like to know--did the Judge admonish Casey yesterday that she was NOT to have any contact with Amy? Is she going to stay in jail until the trial or is there a chance she will be allowed to run the streets until then?
The only thing I do understand about this mess is that she is a lying, thieving fraud with probably a murderer thrown in. Now that I understand. And Baez says she may take the stand and then all the truth will come out??????? where's that gonna come from?


I didn't hear Baez say that Casey may take the stand - really? Now THAT will be entertainment!!! How can Baez put Casey on the stand?

[Lavinya]

What kind of nurse was Cindy? I know she administrative in FL - was she a practicing nurse in a hospital or doctors office where she saw actual patients? With a protruding belly and saying that Casey only had 'female problems' makes me wonder what kind of nurse was she? and if that was female problems, she should have driven Casey to the emergency room right then, cause a protruding belly and looking pregnant and NOT being pregnant is a problem!

She was working in administration at a home health care center at the time of Caylee's murder. She had previously worked at an ortho's office and I believe she worked in a hospital Med/Surg floor before that.

I know you tend to lose the knowledge you are not using and she may have gotten fuzzy on the specifics of OB nursing, say she may not recognize a late deceleration in a baby's heartbeat during labor using a transducer, but she should still have the gist of her OB knowledge, not to mention FGS, she's a fully functioning female that has had children herself and if she had been a junior high drop out, she should have known swelling bellies in young people are not going to be good news. GRRRR!!!

[FindAnswers]

Good morning all! Good morning and WELCOME, Emma and thanks for that link!

I have not seen that pic of Caylee before either and WHY on earth, at her age, would she be missing teeth???? I wonder if she had something wrong with her teeth, like to soft????

Hi spirit.

When I was little my teeth were growing in crooked and crowded. They pulled 5 of my baby teeth to help the baby teeth align and hopefully allow the perm teeth to grow in straight. Also if there are teeth with too much decay, some dentists pull the teeth in place of filling the cavity when it's a baby tooth or teeth.

[oswald]

She was working in administration at a home health care center at the time of Caylee's murder. She had previously worked at an ortho's office and I believe she worked in a hospital Med/Surg floor before that.

I know you tend to lose the knowledge you are not using and she may have gotten fuzzy on the specifics of OB nursing, say she may not recognize a late deceleration in a baby's heartbeat during labor using a transducer, but she should still have the gist of her OB knowledge, not to mention FGS, she's a fully functioning female that has had children herself and if she had been a junior high drop out, she should have known swelling bellies in young people are not going to be good news. GRRRR!!!

Thats what I thought - tumors in the abdomen area is serious - so if she thought that Casey had a darn tumor - and was so non-chalant about it? Thats crazy - heck if I thought my daughter has a swollen belly with no chance os being preg I'd drive her to the ER myself!

[spiritwolf46]

Hi spirit.

When I was little my teeth were growing in crooked and crowded. They pulled 5 of my baby teeth to help the baby teeth align and hopefully allow the perm teeth to grow in straight. Also if there are teeth with too much decay, some dentists pull the teeth in place of filling the cavity when it's a baby tooth or teeth.

Morning, Find!

Thank you SO much for the explanation! :) I know that my daughter's teeth were too soft and they capped hers around Caylee's age, but I had never known about them pulling them before for other reasons.

Thanks again for answering my question! :)

[Doorbell]

Hi, y'all...I've been reading here for a while now, and posting on other cases...have to jump in here regarding the pic of Caylee with missing teeth. I think that they probably had not come in yet, at the time the picture was taken. I do not remember them missing in older pictures of her. One of my children's teeth did not come in the same order that the chart and the pediatrician's office said they should, and I was advised to have her gums lanced to permit the teeth to come through. I felt that nature should take its course, and the teeth came in just fine...a bit later than the ones next to them, but still fine.

[BettyC]

Dr. Lillian Glass claims she can lip read and that Casey said "I'm excited" to Andrea Lyon as she entered court yesterday.

Excited about what? Did she think she was performing in a little play or something?

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/casey-anthony%E2%80%99s-body-language-in-court-reflects-phony-non-tears-fake-sniffles-and-an-empty-apology/

[CRRJJ]

I didn't hear Baez say that Casey may take the stand - really? Now THAT will be entertainment!!! How can Baez put Casey on the stand?

Well,I could very well be wrong but I thought that's what he said on JVM last night. Course I do not believe for one minute she's gonna take the stand. Just another way of trying to convince the public they, her attorneys, really have nothing to worry about. Yeah, right :scared:

[Lavinya]

Okay thanks - another question - I'm sure ALL nurses go through the same training? I should say basic training, then they specialize? So she as a nurse going through this training SHOULD know the difference in preg and tumor AND decomp? Do we have any nurses or someone that has been through this kind of nurse training here??? I'm just curious - cause her excuses can only go so far before she's totally discredited

We all have to know the same stuff. Med/Surg, Pedi, OB/Gyn, Behavioral or Mental Health. (Neurology, nephrology, GI stuff, ortho, etc. is all contained in the multiple med/surg classes you take.) We ALL have to pass the NCLEX test for licensing and the questions cover every aspect of nursing. Then depending on your state licensing board regs, you have to have so many continuing education units to renew your license. (Have you hugged a nurse today? :wub:)

[Dunlurken]

Hi, y'all...I've been reading here for a while now, and posting on other cases...have to jump in here regarding the pic of Caylee with missing teeth. I think that they probably had not come in yet, at the time the picture was taken. I do not remember them missing in older pictures of her. One of my children's teeth did not come in the same order that the chart and the pediatrician's office said they should, and I was advised to have her gums lanced to permit the teeth to come through. I felt that nature should take its course, and the teeth came in just fine...a bit later than the ones next to them, but still fine.

I'm thinking what you're thinking. Muchado about nothing. In later photos Caylee's teeth were there. Not "implants". Sheesh! JMO.

[Pretty Leaf]

Funny how a death qualified lawyer has to stand beside Casey as she plead guity to check fraud. Aside form minimal information debated about murder case, which Baez should have been able to handle, Lyons was there. Shows how much faith she has in Baez.:biggrin:

[Lavinya]

Hi, y'all...I've been reading here for a while now, and posting on other cases...have to jump in here regarding the pic of Caylee with missing teeth. I think that they probably had not come in yet, at the time the picture was taken. I do not remember them missing in older pictures of her. One of my children's teeth did not come in the same order that the chart and the pediatrician's office said they should, and I was advised to have her gums lanced to permit the teeth to come through. I felt that nature should take its course, and the teeth came in just fine...a bit later than the ones next to them, but still fine.

Same here. My last kids teeth came in wonky as they could be and finally filled in. I still think the point about the missing tooth is not a tooth missing when she was living, but they were able to recover all but one of her teeth where her remains were scattered.

[Dunlurken]

Well,I could very well be wrong but I thought that's what he said on JVM last night. Course I do not believe for one minute she's gonna take the stand. Just another way of trying to convince the public they, her attorneys, really have nothing to worry about. Yeah, right :scared:

She will not take the stand. If she does the forgery charges will be brought in, prior bad acts. JMO. Then it will be a slam dunk if it already isn't. JMO.

[oswald]

Hi spirit.

When I was little my teeth were growing in crooked and crowded. They pulled 5 of my baby teeth to help the baby teeth align and hopefully allow the perm teeth to grow in straight. Also if there are teeth with too much decay, some dentists pull the teeth in place of filling the cavity when it's a baby tooth or teeth.

When I was little I had the WORSE buck teeth - yeah I heard ALL the jokes - when I was in the third grade they had to pull 12 teeth so that I could start with braces and headgears, etc. I had too many teeth, so after pulling 12 of them my teeth were able to space and grow in normally (I still have the teeth in an envelope too LOL)

Could Caylee have lost a tooth or two??? Could be due to gum disease also - too much juice or drinking soda?

[oswald]

She was excited cause now she is felon of the year???

Could be a new calender

[Lavinya]

Thats what I thought - tumors in the abdomen area is serious - so if she thought that Casey had a darn tumor - and was so non-chalant about it? Thats crazy - heck if I thought my daughter has a swollen belly with no chance os being preg I'd drive her to the ER myself!

Exactly. So is Cindy crazy for ignoring a possible cancerous growth in her daughters belly, crazy for ignoring the prenatal development of Caylee and possible pregnancy complications for Casey, or is she able to just tuck pesky little facts away somewhere where they never have to be dealt with?

[Dunlurken]

Funny how a death qualified lawyer has to stand beside Casey as she plead guity to check fraud. Aside form minimal information debated about murder case, which Baez should have been able to handle, Lyons was there. Shows how much faith she has in Baez.:biggrin:

It shows Lyons wants to be in the limelight. Hey, Lyons was on TV. Good for her, NOT! IMO, the will be the first and last high profile case Baez ever handles. JMO.

[jammies]

Thats what I thought - tumors in the abdomen area is serious - so if she thought that Casey had a darn tumor - and was so non-chalant about it? Thats crazy - heck if I thought my daughter has a swollen belly with no chance os being preg I'd drive her to the ER myself!

My 3 yr old cousin is in PICU right now with neuroblastoma. And yes, it's not only serious, it's DEADLY.

[FindAnswers]

Morning, Find!

Thank you SO much for the explanation! :) I know that my daughter's teeth were too soft and they capped hers around Caylee's age, but I had never known about them pulling them before for other reasons.

Thanks again for answering my question! :)

You are welcome. They will also pull them if the nerves in those teeth are deadened for some reason to prevent infections. I don't know why Caylee had teeth removed but it could be for one of those reasons.

[LadyHam]

Well,I could very well be wrong but I thought that's what he said on JVM last night. Course I do not believe for one minute she's gonna take the stand. Just another way of trying to convince the public they, her attorneys, really have nothing to worry about. Yeah, right :scared:

If JB said that he is going to put Casey on the stand during the murder trial, then he's bluffing. He just grandstanding in the court of public opinion to try to show that his client has nothing to hide. Those that have followed this case closely from the beginning are not fooled by his shenanigans.

[LadyHam]

She will not take the stand. If she does the forgery charges will be brought in, prior bad acts. JMO. Then it will be a slam dunk if it already isn't. JMO.

Not to mention that the state will tear her to shreds w/all the lies she has told from the beginning. There is absolutely no way that Casey is going to take the stand in her murder trial.

[marinewife5]

It shows Lyons wants to be in the limelight. Hey, Lyons was on TV. Good for her, NOT! IMO, the will be the first and last high profile case Baez ever handles. JMO.

I think Lyons was there to play mother hen for the cameras. She is awkwardly showing casey the love and support her own mother can't to somehow "humanize" casey. She feels if the public sees someone show concern for this poor, young, vicitmized mother, we will show concern as well. It is far easier to recommend the death penalty for a hard, emotionless monster that no one else seems to care about. it is all part of her death penalty strategy, IMO. It is not a natural role for andrea, and her acting is terrible. She comes off as clumsy and insincere.

jmo

[alisa31235]

Exactly. So is Cindy crazy for ignoring a possible cancerous growth in her daughters belly, crazy for ignoring the prenatal development of Caylee and possible pregnancy complications for Casey, or is she able to just tuck pesky little facts away somewhere where they never have to be dealt with?

IIRC Cindy said she was a nurse of decomposition so she would not know Casey was pregnant. IMO

[num1barb]

Thank you all for your informative posts about the hearing yesterday. Those of us who are at work and cannot watch greatly appreciate it!!

[achristie]

Dr. Lillian Glass claims she can lip read and that Casey said "I'm excited" to Andrea Lyon as she entered court yesterday.

Excited about what? Did she think she was performing in a little play or something?

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/casey-anthony%E2%80%99s-body-language-in-court-reflects-phony-non-tears-fake-sniffles-and-an-empty-apology/

Interesting what she says about JB. I keep forgetting he's probably seen many of her melt downs and temper tantrums. And the "ice face" comment is chilling.

MOO Aggie

[Daffodil]

I think she was trembling because the entire world knows that her evil spawn Casey is a convicted felon. The first of many family secrets has been told and the worse is yet to come.



I think if Cindy was trembling, it was with the excitement of knowing that one down, one to go before she gets her freedom. If she was glowing, it was probably because she was thinking about life once Casey is put away. And because if Casey is put away, she could never be arrested for anything. I truly beleive (at this moment) that Cindy was a witness to what happened to Caylee. I think Casey probably told her she was taking Caylee to the hospital. And then, Cindy does not see Casey or Caylee again. This would explain her July 3rd myspace or facebook entry. And when she tells George, we lost her. It was just a confirmation to her. She knew Casey did not take her to the hospital because Casey disappeared after that day. So, that is why Cindy is so giddy right now. She is anticipating that she will be free. And her telling George "I love you" was so inappropriate considering the setting. But I think she thinks if she keeps telling that to George and especially in public that she still has the leash around his neck. Of course, this is only my opinion at this very moment.

[FindAnswers]

When I was little I had the WORSE buck teeth - yeah I heard ALL the jokes - when I was in the third grade they had to pull 12 teeth so that I could start with braces and headgears, etc. I had too many teeth, so after pulling 12 of them my teeth were able to space and grow in normally (I still have the teeth in an envelope too LOL)

Could Caylee have lost a tooth or two??? Could be due to gum disease also - too much juice or drinking soda?

It looks like the teeth that are missing are the same teeth on each side. I would guess that it is more likely they were removed for some reason and not from losing them. I don't know.

[achristie]

I think Lyons was there to play mother hen for the cameras. She is awkwardly showing casey the love and support her own mother can't to somehow "humanize" casey. She feels if the public sees someone show concern for this poor, young, vicitmized mother, we will show concern as well. It is far easier to recommend the death penalty for a hard, emotionless monster that no one else seems to care about. it is all part of her death penalty strategy, IMO. It is not a natural role for andrea, and her acting is terrible. She comes off as clumsy and insincere.

jmo

I agree. The whole act doesn't work for me.

[court~critic1®]

Dr. Lillian Glass claims she can lip read and that Casey said "I'm excited" to Andrea Lyon as she entered court yesterday.

Excited about what? Did she think she was performing in a little play or something?

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/casey-anthony%E2%80%99s-body-language-in-court-reflects-phony-non-tears-fake-sniffles-and-an-empty-apology/



Thanks BettyC........I started my day very early reading this. It made my day. Ms. glass has them all down to the tee. I am still laughing, gotta love it.

safe one!

[jammies]

I think Lyons was there to play mother hen for the cameras. She is awkwardly showing casey the love and support her own mother can't to somehow "humanize" casey. She feels if the public sees someone show concern for this poor, young, vicitmized mother, we will show concern as well. It is far easier to recommend the death penalty for a hard, emotionless monster that no one else seems to care about. it is all part of her death penalty strategy, IMO. It is not a natural role for andrea, and her acting is terrible. She comes off as clumsy and insincere.

jmo

Exactly, mw. It looks so fake and I don't think the jurors are going to buy her "mother hen" demonstrations. While AL coddles her, the jury will be hearing how Caylee died at the hands of Casey. With pictures.

[FloA]

Hello People.

Just stopping in trying to catch up on what's happening in the world of the Anthonys.

Although real life has kept me away, thanks for your posts and the info and incite they provide.

Hope to pop in more often in the future.

[oswald]

It looks like the teeth that are missing are the same teeth on each side. I would guess that it is more likely they were removed for some reason and not from losing them. I don't know.

Then there would be medical records for Caylee? Unless Cindy used pliers or a string and the door

[Lavinya]

IIRC Cindy said she was a nurse of decomposition so she would not know Casey was pregnant. IMO

No such animal as a nurse of decomp, lol. To be fair to Cindy, I think she was so frantically trying to cover the proverbial poo in the cat box, that she's simply jumbled her words when she said that. I think she was trying to say she is a nurse and knows what decomp smells like and she stumbled it out as a nurse of decomp or something similar.

ETA: To heck with the nurse thingy, wouldn't she know her daughter is pg. because she is a fairly intelligent, adult woman with children of her own? Most of us aren't in the medical profession but we know a swollen bally when we see it and rarely does anyone associate it with an accomplishment unless you are trying for a baby.

[jammies]

What bothered me yesterday was how CHIPPER Casey answered the judges questions. Her attitude was not one of remorse, sadness. She was cheerful. wth?

Her lawyers obviously didn't school her on appropriate behavior except for the apology where she was scripted to cry.

[FindAnswers]

Then there would be medical records for Caylee? Unless Cindy used pliers or a string and the door

Did the prosecution subpeona her medical records? I don't think Casey signed a waiver to allow them to gain Caylee's medical records so the prosecution would have to subpeona those records, correct?

[spiritwolf46]

I think Lyons was there to play mother hen for the cameras. She is awkwardly showing casey the love and support her own mother can't to somehow "humanize" casey. She feels if the public sees someone show concern for this poor, young, vicitmized mother, we will show concern as well. It is far easier to recommend the death penalty for a hard, emotionless monster that no one else seems to care about. it is all part of her death penalty strategy, IMO. It is not a natural role for andrea, and her acting is terrible. She comes off as clumsy and insincere.

jmo

I know it is early, but.....:beer:

[Ladygator]

I think Lyons was there to play mother hen for the cameras. She is awkwardly showing casey the love and support her own mother can't to somehow "humanize" casey. She feels if the public sees someone show concern for this poor, young, vicitmized mother, we will show concern as well. It is far easier to recommend the death penalty for a hard, emotionless monster that no one else seems to care about. it is all part of her death penalty strategy, IMO. It is not a natural role for andrea, and her acting is terrible. She comes off as clumsy and insincere.

jmo

This is exactly what her role is, IMO.

ITA she does a horrible job at it. She doesn't look sincere.

I'm waiting for her to start calling Casey 'a child' in the murder trial. :glare:

[CRRJJ]

She will not take the stand. If she does the forgery charges will be brought in, prior bad acts. JMO. Then it will be a slam dunk if it already isn't. JMO.

Thanks Dunlurken. I don't want to mislead anyone-Baez said she if she should take the stand the truth will come out. Of course we are not dealing with the sharpest knife in the drawer with JB so, who knows---he may well advise her to testify!! Let's hope. :sneaky:

[BettyC]

Hello People.

Just stopping in trying to catch up on what's happening in the world of the Anthonys.

Although real life has kept me away, thanks for your posts and the info and incite they provide.

Hope to pop in more often in the future.

Flo !!! So nice to see you here. Please DO pop in more often.

(BChand here)

[Ladygator]

Thanks Dunlurken. I don't want to mislead anyone-Baez said she if she should take the stand the truth will come out. Of course we are not dealing with the sharpest knife in the drawer with JB so, who knows---he may well advise her to testify!! Let's hope. :sneaky:

I'm hoping Casey's own arrogance pushes her to want to testify on her own behalf. One of those juror people will have to understand all this was a misunderstanding. I can see her thinking that!!

I see her fuming, as she listens to what the state says. Full fistie episodes of anger will come over her. And that just might push onto the stand. IMO

[oswald]

Thanks Dunlurken. I don't want to mislead anyone-Baez said she if she should take the stand the truth will come out. Of course we are not dealing with the sharpest knife in the drawer with JB so, who knows---he may well advise her to testify!! Let's hope. :sneaky:

I'd LOVE for her to take the stand - we'll see fisties and defiance big time - she'll get so lost in her own lies, she's out of practice - 'on the outside' she was lying daily in almost all her interaction with anyone - now she really only has lawyers and a jail guard or two

[really3997]

Dr. Lillian Glass claims she can lip read and that Casey said "I'm excited" to Andrea Lyon as she entered court yesterday.

Excited about what? Did she think she was performing in a little play or something?

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/casey-anthony%E2%80%99s-body-language-in-court-reflects-phony-non-tears-fake-sniffles-and-an-empty-apology/

Like a few people stated yesterday they all were overly happy the whole lot of them. Either they wanted to show a united front or this whole thing is joke to them. Very disrepectful to our legal system. JMO

[ish]

When I was little I had the WORSE buck teeth - yeah I heard ALL the jokes - when I was in the third grade they had to pull 12 teeth so that I could start with braces and headgears, etc. I had too many teeth, so after pulling 12 of them my teeth were able to space and grow in normally (I still have the teeth in an envelope too LOL)

Could Caylee have lost a tooth or two??? Could be due to gum disease also - too much juice or drinking soda?

MY BOLD

I guarantee that if Caylee lost any teeth, Casey stole any money she got from the tooth fairy.

[ish]

If Casey always wanted to resolve this with Amy she should have pleaded guilty immediately and not waited 2 years to do it...as far as the fees go...over 5K...she wouldn't have endured those costs if she would have pleaded guilty from the get go....so it's her own fault or Baez's fault for instructing his client to plead not guilty...

my bold

If Casey wanted to resolve things with Amy, she would have told Cindy to stop throwing Amy's name around as a possible "Zanny"

It's one thing to steal your friend's checkbook and rob her blind, it's worse to allow her to be labelled possible suspect in the murder of your daughter, especially when you know for darn sure she had nothing to do with it.

[Ladygator]

If she insists on taking the stand...her attorney's cannot stop her...but they would be ill advised if they don't pull out all stops to do so...

I'm thinking of Darlie Routier. One of the only high profile mommy killers on death row. She took the stand in her own defense. Didn't work out well for her at all.

[Ladygator]

I should add though...I would love it if she insisted on taking the stand...what a hoot that would be...

Yeah, it would the highlight of many popcorn moments.:drool:

[marinewife5]

This is exactly what her role is, IMO.

ITA she does a horrible job at it. She doesn't look sincere.

I'm waiting for her to start calling Casey 'a child' in the murder trial. :glare:

and i'm sure that is exactly how she will try to portray casey! and andrea's motive is two-fold....she is working with the negative public perception of cindy. she is being the mother casey always wanted and needed. poor thing :rolleyes:

jmo

[marinewife5]

I'm hoping Casey's own arrogance pushes her to want to testify on her own behalf. One of those juror people will have to understand all this was a misunderstanding. I can see her thinking that!!

I see her fuming, as she listens to what the state says. Full fistie episodes of anger will come over her. And that just might push onto the stand. IMO

I have no doubt that casey wants to take the stand. None of this is about justice or the law to her. It's about her being right.

jmo

[Lavinya]

I have no doubt that casey wants to take the stand. None of this is about justice or the law to her. It's about her being right.

jmo

Gosh that sounds so much like someone else... Can't quiiiite put my finger on it. :sneaky:

[Justice4all]

Does anyone find it odd that Nancy Grace wants everything about Casey Anthony video taped but she doesn't want her own deposition taped??



It's classic. Nancy Grace does not want her deposition taken because she's afraid someone will manipulate the videotape and take her out of context.





http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/26/nancy-grace-cnn-deposition-melinda-duckett/

[really3997]

I should add though...I would love it if she insisted on taking the stand...what a hoot that would be...

Well I will tell you what if she takes the stand I will be popping 3 bags of popcorn calling in sick and heading over to the court house...Move over marmelade dave... that is one movie I want to see first

[Dunlurken]

I should add though...I would love it if she insisted on taking the stand...what a hoot that would be...

Let her. LMAO. Kind of like Bobby Cutts. GUILTY!

[mbutterfly]

Regarding the Oakridge results that the defense is still lamenting on, the science of analyzing the air in the car is a "young" science (not to mention the fact that it is moot in this case, as they were brought in to confirm that LE was looking for a deceased child, not a live one) and with that science still being largely in the developmental stage, it is logical they would not want their research as a whole out there as nothing more than fodder for defense attorneys at this point.

This was an excellent point. I had forgotten that the air analysis was for the purpose of searching for a deceased Caylee.

[court~critic1®]

I'm thinking of Darlie Routier. One of the only high profile mommy killers on death row. She took the stand in her own defense. Didn't work out well for her at all.


Speaking of Darlie R. Her MIL was hurt,not bad, in the tornado that struck here last Wed. night. Talk about karma. lol

She was in a RV in the yard of a log house they are building in East Tx.


Sorry about the o/t friends.

[oswald]

and i'm sure that is exactly how she will try to portray casey! and andrea's motive is two-fold....she is working with the negative public perception of cindy. she is being the mother casey always wanted and needed. poor thing :rolleyes:

jmo

Boy if Lyons if a mother that Casey always wanted and needed - THAT would be scarey! I'm sure Lyons has her own private nice moments with her own daughter - otherwise she doesn't seem to be the 'mothering' type

Are there any pix of Lyons when she was younger?

[Bottrell]

Does anyone find it odd that Nancy Grace wants everything about Casey Anthony video taped but she doesn't want her own deposition taped??




http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/26/nancy-grace-cnn-deposition-melinda-duckett/

Boy if that isn't a POT meet KETTLE I don't know what is......:wink:

[Ladygator]

Does anyone find it odd that Nancy Grace wants everything about Casey Anthony video taped but she doesn't want her own deposition taped??




http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/26/nancy-grace-cnn-deposition-melinda-duckett/

I was just posting about that in the Trenton Duckett thread.

:laugh:

[cassidy]

Funny how a death qualified lawyer has to stand beside Casey as she plead guity to check fraud. Aside form minimal information debated about murder case, which Baez should have been able to handle, Lyons was there. Shows how much faith she has in Baez.:biggrin:

She sure did let him ramble on though. I thought she was looking at him askance. Kind of like OMG what is the idiot saying NOW?

JMO

[Bingo]

I think she was trembling because the entire world knows that her evil spawn Casey is a convicted felon. The first of many family secrets has been told and the worse is yet to come.


You know, it's so weird.........I saw Casey give her parents that little wave when she came in and watched them whenever the camera panned them. To me, they looked PROUD of her. Here she is being convicted as a felon and they look PROUD? I just don't get it....

On another topic................Casey's little statement in court. Maybe folks might believe that she was actually sorry if she hadn't been all happy and joyous when she trotted into the courtroom. It was like watching ole home week or something. She's just an actress.......not a good one......but an actress never the less....

My own opinion ....Thanks for listening...Be well...

[Bingo]

IIRC, her actual clinical experience was that she was a nurse for an orthopedic physician and helped prepare casts.


But not always, right? Wasn't she working in a hospital when she met George?

[Scampi]

Dr. Lillian Glass claims she can lip read and that Casey said "I'm excited" to Andrea Lyon as she entered court yesterday.

Excited about what? Did she think she was performing in a little play or something?

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/casey-anthony%E2%80%99s-body-language-in-court-reflects-phony-non-tears-fake-sniffles-and-an-empty-apology/


I love Dr. Glass's SIX STEP BOO HOO RITUAL OF casey anthony!!!

It is so true.

:thumbsup:

[Ladygator]

Speaking of Darlie R. Her MIL was hurt,not bad, in the tornado that struck here last Wed. night. Talk about karma. lol

She was in a RV in the yard of a log house they are building in East Tx.


Sorry about the o/t friends.

Cindy should start communicating with her now so she'll know the ins and outs of getting a fan base for 'Casey is innocent', later.:biggrin:

[Lavinya]

Speaking of Darlie R. Her MIL was hurt,not bad, in the tornado that struck here last Wed. night. Talk about karma. lol

She was in a RV in the yard of a log house they are building in East Tx.


Sorry about the o/t friends.

No kidding? Wow. Is Darin still in the area?

[Lavinya]

Well I will tell you what if she takes the stand I will be popping 3 bags of popcorn calling in sick and heading over to the court house...Move over marmelade dave... that is one movie I want to see first

:lol: See that's why I'm laying down weight as a FLABer. To sumo wrestle anyone in my way of getting a good seat if that happens. Move over Marmaduke Dave indeed.

[caphill]

Does anyone have any info on when Roy Kronk's deposition is scheduled for completion by the defense.

Can he refuse to return to finish the deposiiton?

[ish]

You know, it's so weird.........I saw Casey give her parents that little wave when she came in and watched them whenever the camera panned them. To me, they looked PROUD of her. Here she is being convicted as a felon and they look PROUD? I just don't get it....

On another topic................Casey's little statement in court. Maybe folks might believe that she was actually sorry if she hadn't been all happy and joyous when she trotted into the courtroom. It was like watching ole home week or something. She's just an actress.......not a good one......but an actress never the less....

My own opinion ....Thanks for listening...Be well...

The only reason Casey even acknowledged her parents in court yesterday (IMO) was because she thought she would be impressing them with her "I'm taking responsibility for my actions" speech. Cindy can now go abut her press appearances and tell the interviewer that Casey took responsibility for what she did, if she did something wrong to Caylee she would tell us.

[*MoonRider*]

Convicted Felon Casey Anthony…
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

[court~critic1®]

No kidding? Wow. Is Darin still in the area?


Sorry, I do not know about Darin. I only read about her MIL this am in the paper.

[KP1935]

From the link:

"You know, it was a mistake she made, and today she lived up to it and apologized for it. And she`s always been very sorry and lost a friend as a result of this, and hoping in some way, shape or form that her friend will forgive her."

I wanted to scream at the TV, when will she ask for forgiveness for (allegedly) murdering Caylee! JMO.
:mad:

She did it FOUR times, it wasn't a one time thing!

[Dunlurken]

Does anyone find it odd that Nancy Grace wants everything about Casey Anthony video taped but she doesn't want her own deposition taped??




http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/26/nancy-grace-cnn-deposition-melinda-duckett/

THUD! I'm shocked, totally shocked. Damm, don't let Baez see this. JMO.

[court~critic1®]

Cindy should start communicating with her now so she'll know the ins and outs of getting a fan base for 'Casey is innocent', later.:biggrin:



You think?...LOL According to Mrs. Anthony she already has a huge fan base....roflmao

safe one!

[Lavinya]

Sorry, I do not know about Darin. I only read about her MIL this am in the paper.

Thanks. I'm not too sure about that guy. :thumbdown:

[Ladygator]

You think?...LOL According to Mrs. Anthony she already has a huge fan base....roflmao

safe one!

Ooops! I read wrong. It's her MIL injured. Not her Mom.:blushing:

I forsee another "Media Tried, Justice Denied' type book coming from camp Anthony after this is all over.:wink:

[jessie]

Exactly. So is Cindy crazy for ignoring a possible cancerous growth in her daughters belly, crazy for ignoring the prenatal development of Caylee and possible pregnancy complications for Casey, or is she able to just tuck pesky little facts away somewhere where they never have to be dealt with? She is liar just like her daughter and her husband, George Balless Anthony. JMO

[ish]

I have to respectfully disagree with Hinky about this statement...

..."I did these wrong things…and I’m sorry.” What an absolutely torturous act for an egomaniac to have to endure."...

Sociopath's most favored reaction from people is pity...and I think this is what Casey was trying to portray...poorly...but she tried...I think Casey was quite proud of her performance though...

I have to agree here, I think Casey looked at it as a dry run for the big trial. That's why she told AL she was "excited".

She believes the bravado she had in Target and the bank while cashing other people's checks and getting away with it will work in front of a jury. Wait till the jury sees the pics of little Caylee's bones, juxtaposed with pics of Casey dancing the night away. All the bravado in the world isn't gonna help her. Despite the fact that Janie Whinetraub says the prosecution has "no evidence".

[jessie]

Like a few people stated yesterday they all were overly happy the whole lot of them. Either they wanted to show a united front or this whole thing is joke to them. Very disrepectful to our legal system. JMO I believe they were happy because they believe they beat the prosecution team because she wasnt given the 5 years that the prosecution wanted in their plea deal. JMO

[denjet]

Like a few people stated yesterday they all were overly happy the whole lot of them. Either they wanted to show a united front or this whole thing is joke to them. Very disrepectful to our legal system. JMO

It's obvious they wanted to show an united front and confidence coming into court ... hopeful that KC would get a slap on the wrist and that the judge would see she's already been punished enough ... but then KC and the A's don't know how to show appropriate emotion ... not quite the same mood leaving court though, huh? The mood after her conviction was more like disappointment and anger ... :rolleyes:

[Marrigan]

Don't get angry Lavinya. Cindy knew exactly what was happening with Casey's belly. She was just trying to fool the rest of the world. The lack of pre-natal care, now that's a different story.

JMO

Cindy denying Casey's pregnancy might have had a different motive.
Maybe Cindy and George hoped that Casey would choose adoption.
They didn't like Jesse Grund.

[Leanne Weich]

Dr. Lillian Glass claims she can lip read and that Casey said "I'm excited" to Andrea Lyon as she entered court yesterday.

Excited about what? Did she think she was performing in a little play or something?

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/casey-anthony%E2%80%99s-body-language-in-court-reflects-phony-non-tears-fake-sniffles-and-an-empty-apology/

After reading this "What was even more maddening was when Jose Baez (whom I must admit does look rather dapper and handsome and does try to maintain his professional composure through his well spoken sonorous voice)", I'm sorry but I don't take much notice of what this woman has to say and, in fact, most of what she's written about the players in this case has all been said by various posters here. JMHO.

[puzzler]

I have to respectfully disagree with Hinky about this statement...

..."I did these wrong things…and I’m sorry.” What an absolutely torturous act for an egomaniac to have to endure."...

Sociopath's most favored reaction from people is pity...and I think this is what Casey was trying to portray...poorly...but she tried...I think Casey was quite proud of her performance though...

I agree. She came into court all excited and smiling, like it was opening night. I half expected her to bow when she finished her little "performance".

[Lavinya]

Cindy denying Casey's pregnancy might have had a different motive.
Maybe Cindy and George hoped that Casey would choose adoption.
They didn't like Jesse Grund.

Why no prenatal care then? Even if they couldn't have cared less about the baby, Casey faced dangers in pregnancy, too.

[denjet]

This is exactly what her role is, IMO.

ITA she does a horrible job at it. She doesn't look sincere.

I'm waiting for her to start calling Casey 'a child' in the murder trial. :glare:

ITA gator, Thats what I was wondering ... what’s up with all the coddling Andrea? It’s a fraud charge … geeze … what’s so hard about admitting you stole ?? A bit over the top and contrived ... makes you wonder about what Andrea will be doing during her murder trial ... poor, poor KC ...:thumbdown:

[puzzler]

Cindy denying Casey's pregnancy might have had a different motive.
Maybe Cindy and George hoped that Casey would choose adoption.
They didn't like Jesse Grund.

One of Casey's friends claimed that Casey wanted to give Caylee up for adoption and Cindy wouldn't hear of it. (for what it's worth)

ETA I think they liked Jesse until the DNA test proved him not to be Caylee's father.

[tmw]

This may have been discussed earlier, I have been away from the computer since yesterday afternoon so forgive me if I beat a dead horse. (It's my specialty, so I'm told and told and...told)
Baez seemed to take exception to the word "lingerie" used in reference to Casey purchasing a bra with stolen checks. THAT is the thing for him to worry about in all this .... jeez!~!! ANYway, I wanted to be sure I understood "lingerie" Here is what dictionary. com says:

Lingerie
–noun 1. underwear, sleepwear, and other items of intimate apparel worn by women.
2. Archaic. linen goods in general.

[CeeKay]

Many thanks to all of the posters who keep us informed on the latest going-ons in this case. It is much appreciated.

I saw the hearing yesterday and it confirmed my impression of the defense. They DO NOT have a defense. The whole Biaz team is still struggling to this day on where to go. Even at this late date, they are throwing things out there and hoping something will stick.
At the hearing, I felt that they told Casey that they had a GOOD defense against these charges and that she would be out on low bail. What a farce to suggest that she is unpopular and thus a victim of prejudice and then imply that the court would be wrong if the judge did not see things the "Biaz Way". That's why Biaz started to ramble on and Lyons tried to control herself from interfering with his speech.

Did anyone notice that Casey's face got splotchy during the sentencing phase? She was "burning", and I'm sure the "fisties" were there.

Judge S. was sure on the ball when at the very beginning, he asked Casey if she was satisfied with her lawyers etc. and she confidently stated "yes". I wish that Casey would be asked that same question today. Would she give the same answer?

In my opinion, the "team" promised Casey that they had it in the bag and she would be going home for now. The team gambled with the strategy that; admitting to the crime, remorse, payback, prejudice, "only $600",etc, would be a cinch to secure her freedom.

Sorry if I rambled .

[BettyC]

After reading this "What was even more maddening was when Jose Baez (whom I must admit does look rather dapper and handsome and does try to maintain his professional composure through his well spoken sonorous voice)", I'm sorry but I don't take much notice of what this woman has to say and, in fact, most of what she's written about the players in this case has all been said by various posters here. JMHO.

I have to agree with you. I certainly don't agree with Dr. Glass that Jose ever looks dapper. I always feel he's about to burst out of his suit.

I believe she goes too far with some of her opinions. Far away from what I believe anyway.

I was most interested in her ability to lip read and saying that Casey said "I am excited" as she walked into the courtroom.

[Scampi]

What bothered me yesterday was how CHIPPER Casey answered the judges questions. Her attitude was not one of remorse, sadness. She was cheerful. wth?

Her lawyers obviously didn't school her on appropriate behavior except for the apology where she was scripted to cry.

Me too, Jammies. I could not understand the upbeat demeanor of any of them yesterday. But, after reading Dr. Glass's body language analysis and thinking on it, I believe they all tripped into the courtroom convinced that all the world had to hear, was the Mother of the Year serve up her little apology and then we'd all realize how wrong we've been about poor casey.

Yes, I think they are all that delusional.

Hope they are reading all the boards today, so they can see how horribly wrong they are......

[oswald]

The body language article is a very interesting one - things happen in a nano second and we wouldn't think twice about it - but having someone point out specific actions is extremely interesting - as Casey was saying her apology I felt, like everyone here, the insincerity in it - I could tell with the raised voice and the short cut off words, it wasn't real - but then I thought maybe she's just nervous

what was really interesting was the Baez body language explanation - stuff I missed THAT is so telling

For those that followed other trials, the body language, does it compare? Say Scott Peterson (which I only followed loosely)

[happy2bme]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/01/casey-anthony-how-much-does-a-play-in-australia-matter.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+entertainment%2Ftv%2Ftvguy+%2 8TV+Guy%29

Sorry if this has already been posted.

[BettyC]

Cindy denying Casey's pregnancy might have had a different motive.
Maybe Cindy and George hoped that Casey would choose adoption.
They didn't like Jesse Grund.

I wonder.

They never ever met Jesse (according to George) until she went into labor.

And, also according to George, once he found out, he was just tickled pink that his single, jobless daughter was pregnant.

[Lavinya]

I have to agree with you. I certainly don't agree with Dr. Glass that Jose ever looks dapper. I always feel he's about to burst out of his suit.

I believe she goes too far with some of her opinions. Far away from what I believe anyway.

I was most interested in her ability to lip read and saying that Casey said "I am excited" as she walked into the courtroom.

ITA. I don't remember what case I followed that Dr. Glass did her analysis on but I remember my opinion being at odds with hers quite a lot. She always seemed to sensationalize a bit, IMO.

[SandyO]

The only reason Casey even acknowledged her parents in court yesterday (IMO) was because she thought she would be impressing them with her "I'm taking responsibility for my actions" speech. Cindy can now go abut her press appearances and tell the interviewer that Casey took responsibility for what she did, if she did something wrong to Caylee she would tell us.

It might be that, or it might be more likely that she wants $ in that commissary account.

[LadyHam]

I have to agree here, I think Casey looked at it as a dry run for the big trial. That's why she told AL she was "excited".

She believes the bravado she had in Target and the bank while cashing other people's checks and getting away with it will work in front of a jury. Wait till the jury sees the pics of little Caylee's bones, juxtaposed with pics of Casey dancing the night away. All the bravado in the world isn't gonna help her. Despite the fact that Janie Whinetraub says the prosecution has "no evidence".

Jayne Weintraub says that about every case. There is never any evidence, nobody is ever guilty, etc. Almost every case she says that about has gone on to get a conviction, so since she seems to think that there is no evidence in this case, I take that to be a good sign that there actually is.

[LadyHam]

I agree. She came into court all excited and smiling, like it was opening night. I half expected her to bow when she finished her little "performance".

I think Casey was prepared to give her little performance before the judge found her guilty on 6 of those 13 counts. I bet that she was hoping that w/her little performance the judge would just give her a little slap on the wrist and not find her guilty of any of them. I wonder if she wanted to back out of her little empty apology once she knew she was already deemed guilty?

[LadyHam]

ITA gator, Thats what I was wondering ... what’s up with all the coddling Andrea? It’s a fraud charge … geeze … what’s so hard about admitting you stole ?? A bit over the top and contrived ... makes you wonder about what Andrea will be doing during her murder trial ... poor, poor KC ...:thumbdown:

I think it is all part of the defense's act that Casey is unpopular and that everyone is out to get her.

[onlykaty]

due to an eye injury, nothing serious, I missed the whole thing yesturday. :( I wasn't allowed to watch tv or get on my pc til the doc. checked me out tihis morning. So, I have a lot of cattching up to do. Is there a link in the links section where I might watch the whole hearing from yesturday?

I waited so long for this, makes so mad.

[MorningGlory]

Hi all. I haven't posted for a couple of months, but have been reading since the beginning. I wasn't able to listen to the hearing yesterday while at work, but did watch what I could of the video portion and tried to keep up with all the play by play done by you posters. (Thank you). I understand the guilty verdict for the majority of the counts was ajudicated (welcome to your murder trial, Miss Conficted Felon) but I wasn't able to pick up what sentence she was given for said charges. Can someone give me the specifics? Thanks for this and for all the posting each day. I wouldn't be able to keep up without it! I'd love to be able to take a leave of absence from work for the trial, but not an option! :sad:

[Doorbell]

Cindy denying Casey's pregnancy might have had a different motive.
Maybe Cindy and George hoped that Casey would choose adoption.
They didn't like Jesse Grund.

Very early on, there were reports that Casey talked about putting Caylee up for adoption, but Cindy said, "no."

[LadyHam]

This may have been discussed earlier, I have been away from the computer since yesterday afternoon so forgive me if I beat a dead horse. (It's my specialty, so I'm told and told and...told)
Baez seemed to take exception to the word "lingerie" used in reference to Casey purchasing a bra with stolen checks. THAT is the thing for him to worry about in all this .... jeez!~!! ANYway, I wanted to be sure I understood "lingerie" Here is what dictionary. com says:

Lingerie
–noun 1. underwear, sleepwear, and other items of intimate apparel worn by women.
2. Archaic. linen goods in general.

Well, if you look at the video tapes of Casey forging Amy's checks, it does look like she bought a few pajama sets. They look like they are shorts and tank top type pajamas. So between the bras and sleepwear sets that Casey bought w/Amy's money, she actually did buy lingerie. I agree though, THAT is what JB is focusing on? The question that was posed to JB was actually WHY was Casey buying all of these things w/her friend's money while Caylee was missing? Of course, JB avoided that question and focused how unfair everyone is being to Casey because they are saying that she bought lingerie. JB, she DID buy lingerie.:rolleyes:

[ish]

Jayne Weintraub says that about every case. There is never any evidence, nobody is ever guilty, etc. Almost every case she says that about has gone on to get a conviction, so since she seems to think that there is no evidence in this case, I take that to be a good sign that there actually is.


She's from the Jose Baez school of law. Though I was shocked that he "admitted" Casey was planning on pleading guilty all along to the forging charges. He should have said something sooner, instead of his ridiculous comments about Casey having a good reason for everything she has done.

[KatieLady]

I went to the Links thread thinking for sure I would find an interview with JB or C&G after yesterdays court appearance. Nothing!!!

Are you telling me none of them gave an interview????

*THUD*

[Doorbell]

Many thanks to all of the posters who keep us informed on the latest going-ons in this case. It is much appreciated.

I saw the hearing yesterday and it confirmed my impression of the defense. They DO NOT have a defense. The whole Biaz team is still struggling to this day on where to go. Even at this late date, they are throwing things out there and hoping something will stick.
At the hearing, I felt that they told Casey that they had a GOOD defense against these charges and that she would be out on low bail. What a farce to suggest that she is unpopular and thus a victim of prejudice and then imply that the court would be wrong if the judge did not see things the "Biaz Way". That's why Biaz started to ramble on and Lyons tried to control herself from interfering with his speech.

Did anyone notice that Casey's face got splotchy during the sentencing phase? She was "burning", and I'm sure the "fisties" were there.

Judge S. was sure on the ball when at the very beginning, he asked Casey if she was satisfied with her lawyers etc. and she confidently stated "yes". I wish that Casey would be asked that same question today. Would she give the same answer?

In my opinion, the "team" promised Casey that they had it in the bag and she would be going home for now. The team gambled with the strategy that; admitting to the crime, remorse, payback, prejudice, "only $600",etc, would be a cinch to secure her freedom.

Sorry if I rambled .

But, she is charged with murder. There is no way she was going home, even if the check charges were dropped completely.

[KatieLady]

Supposedly JB did...but not posted...I said they prolly had to edit all the uhm and ahh's out of it...so it will be a few days or weeks till we see it...LOL...but he hopped right over and did JVM last night...

:lol:

I missed JVM....did he say anything of note? (I realize that is a stupid question...of course he didn't :rolleyes:) but could you give it to me in a nutshell???

[tmw]

Well, if you look at the video tapes of Casey forging Amy's checks, it does look like she bought a few pajama sets. They look like they are shorts and tank top type pajamas. So between the bras and sleepwear sets that Casey bought w/Amy's money, she actually did buy lingerie. I agree though, THAT is what JB is focusing on? The question that was posed to JB was actually WHY was Casey buying all of these things w/her friend's money while Caylee was missing? Of course, JB avoided that question and focused how unfair everyone is being to Casey because they are saying that she bought lingerie. JB, she DID buy lingerie.:rolleyes:

Yep, bras are lingerie.
And I would have 32longs and wouldn't care if one of mine "disappeared".
Is he immature or just plain ignorant?

[tmw]

Yeah, this is from the man who used to own Bikini shops...:lol::lol:

LOL
Oh dear!!

[puzzler]

I think Casey was prepared to give her little performance before the judge found her guilty on 6 of those 13 counts. I bet that she was hoping that w/her little performance the judge would just give her a little slap on the wrist and not find her guilty of any of them. I wonder if she wanted to back out of her little empty apology once she knew she was already deemed guilty?

Never really thought about it that way. She did get all red and splotchy when he was giving his decision. I wonder if Baez told something different was going to happen than what actually did?

[denjet]

Well I will tell you what if she takes the stand I will be popping 3 bags of popcorn calling in sick and heading over to the court house...Move over marmelade dave... that is one movie I want to see first

He says he was in court but I didn't see him ... as a matter of fact didn't the gallery look kind of empty? I mean there were empty seats ... did anyone else notice? The press sure doesn't show much of the people in the gallery ...

Did anyone see any footage of people leaving the court house or presser after? Did I miss it?

TIA

[desmom]

I went to the Links thread thinking for sure I would find an interview with JB or C&G after yesterdays court appearance. Nothing!!!

Are you telling me none of them gave an interview????

*THUD*

Raw Interview: Jose Baez Talks About Casey's Check Fraud Hearing
http://www.wftv.com/video/22343252/index.html

[LadyHam]

I went to the Links thread thinking for sure I would find an interview with JB or C&G after yesterdays court appearance. Nothing!!!

Are you telling me none of them gave an interview????

*THUD*

JB appeared on JVM last night.

[BettyC]

due to an eye injury, nothing serious, I missed the whole thing yesturday. :( I wasn't allowed to watch tv or get on my pc til the doc. checked me out tihis morning. So, I have a lot of cattching up to do. Is there a link in the links section where I might watch the whole hearing from yesturday?

I waited so long for this, makes so mad.

Glad it's not serious onlykaty. Yes there are links to the hearing on the links thread.

[KatieLady]

http://www.wftv.com/video/22343252/index.html

Baez

Thank you and desmom! Going to watch now.....

[denjet]

http://www.wftv.com/video/22343252/index.html

Baez

LOL Rap, Thanks! I just posted about this before reading yours! :thumbup:

[FindAnswers]

Off topic. HLN reporting remains have been found and may belong to Morgan Herrington waiting on posetive ID.

[jammies]

I think Casey was prepared to give her little performance before the judge found her guilty on 6 of those 13 counts. I bet that she was hoping that w/her little performance the judge would just give her a little slap on the wrist and not find her guilty of any of them. I wonder if she wanted to back out of her little empty apology once she knew she was already deemed guilty?

That's probably why she was crying, Lady. Go Stan!

[jammies]

Off topic. HLN reporting remains have been found and may belong to Morgan Herrington waiting on posetive ID.

Is there still an open thread for Morgan?

[KatieLady]

Is there still an open thread for Morgan?

Yes...in Amber Alerts

[FindAnswers]

Is there still an open thread for Morgan?



I don't know. I just wanted to give a heads up on what they just reported.

[jammies]

Yes...in Amber Alerts

TY, Katie.

[puzzler]

LOL Rap, Thanks! I just posted about this before reading yours! :thumbup:

Was that Marmaduke patting Jose on the shoulder and handing him a card and then talking to Lyon?:w00t:

[tmw]

Who is Marmalade Dave?

[*PuffDragon*]

and i'm sure that is exactly how she will try to portray casey! and andrea's motive is two-fold....she is working with the negative public perception of cindy. she is being the mother casey always wanted and needed. poor thing :rolleyes:

jmo

My bold

I don't know how well that's working for her then, mw. If her body language is any indication, Casey doesn't seem to care that Andrea is 'mothering' her.

[FindAnswers]

Who is Marmalade Dave?

If you mean Marinade Dave? He is a news blogger who lives in Orlando and attends the hearings.

[*PuffDragon*]

I have no doubt that casey wants to take the stand. None of this is about justice or the law to her. It's about her being right.

jmo

And besides, it will be her last chance to be in the spotlight. After the trial the curtain comes down on her act.

[tmw]

If you mean Marinade Dave? He is a news blogger who lives in Orlando and attends the hearings.

Thanks.
Marmalade/Marmaduke/Marinade Dave!
Where is his blog?

ETA- Google is my friend, I found it!

[onlykaty]

Glad it's not serious onlykaty. Yes there are links to the hearing on the links thread.

Thanks Betty, I still have to read a little and take a break, In a few more days back to normal. Also thanks for answering, I'm already on it. Probably take me a while to catch up but I don't want to miss a thing. Love this board. :)

[FindAnswers]

Baez says:

She will plead to what she is guilty of & nothing more.

I won't believe Casey will go to trial for Caylee's murder until I see said trial happen.

And Dr. Lillian Glass was right on... again.

The second Baez makes the claim that Casey is sorry... he does indeed shake his head 'no' as he begins to make that claim.

I agree RockStar. I so agree.

[FindAnswers]

Thanks.
Marmalade/Marmaduke/Marinade Dave!
Where is his blog?

ETA- Google is my friend, I found it!

I'm using my husbands laptop again so let me go find the site. I have to google it. lol

[really3997]

He says he was in court but I didn't see him ... as a matter of fact didn't the gallery look kind of empty? I mean there were empty seats ... did anyone else notice? The press sure doesn't show much of the people in the gallery ...

Did anyone see any footage of people leaving the court house or presser after? Did I miss it?

TIA

Personally I think he wasnt let in and that is who Schaffer was talking about..but that is just my opinion

[KP1935]

http://www.wftv.com/video/22343252/index.html

Baez

Seeing Baez's smirk as I opened the link I shuddered and was thinking of not watching it, but the thought that Kathy Belich may tear him a new one lead to me to watch.

I find it funny that the "lead-in" commercial was for an Amscot!!! Ironic, huh?

[denjet]

Was that Marmaduke patting Jose on the shoulder and handing him a card and then talking to Lyon?:w00t:

We better be careful with the name calling ... just a caution ... I don't want to be banned along with others ...

But yes, he got in the middle of the press people as they were walking away from the presser, handing Baez a business card and patting him on the shoulder and ... then saying to Andrea "You had a typo on your (?) I sent you an email ..."

I thought joining the REAL press people was kind of bold, but telling Andrea she had a typo ?????????? :scared: OMG

He then he tried to carry on a conversation with Lyon and her investigator, Mort? as they continues to walk away ...

Unbelievable ...:glare:

[*PuffDragon*]

I agree. She came into court all excited and smiling, like it was opening night. I half expected her to bow when she finished her little "performance".

What was the point of that "little performance" anyway? The judge had already given his decision. It was all over. It didn't do her any good to apologize. Now if she had done it before the verdict they could say she was trying to show the judge that she was remorseful and had learned her lesson, hopefully to influence his thoughts. But why do it afterwards, when it wasn't going to do any good? She could have saved herself the humiliation.

[FindAnswers]

tmw I can't get google to load in a new window. I'm sorry. I'll try again shortly or you can try.

i don't like this laptop.

[hello its me]

I went to the Links thread thinking for sure I would find an interview with JB or C&G after yesterdays court appearance. Nothing!!!

Are you telling me none of them gave an interview????

*THUD*

http://www.wftv.com/video/22335740/index.html

JB.

[minimarshm]

What was the point of that "little performance" anyway? The judge had already given his decision. It was all over. It didn't do her any good to apologize. Now if she had done it before the verdict they could say she was trying to show the judge that she was remorseful and had learned her lesson, hopefully to influence his thoughts. But why do it afterwards, when it wasn't going to do any good? She could have saved herself the humiliation.



they are trying to humanize her. Unfortunately it will not make a difference when her interviews with LE are played in court.

[denjet]

Personally I think he wasnt let in and that is who Schaffer was talking about..but that is just my opinion
Thank you, thank you really! :wub:
That's exactly what I thought too!! I think we're right ... :thumbup:

[BettyC]

Seeing Baez's smirk as I opened the link I shuddered and was thinking of not watching it, but the thought that Kathy Belich may tear him a new one lead to me to watch.

I find it funny that the "lead-in" commercial was for an Amscot!!! Ironic, huh?

I had the same hesitation because of the smirk KP. I did start watching it but could only stomach about half before I turned it off.

He's got nothing to say so why doesn't he stay away from the cameras?

The judge JUST finished telling Casey she could have no contact with Amy, so her attorney goes in front of news cameras and tells Amy she can always feel free to contact him?

Not one reporter called him on that?

[tmw]

tmw I can't get google to load in a new window. I'm sorry. I'll try again shortly or you can try.

i don't like this laptop.

I found it after I was told the correct name. I had his name all wrong!
Thanks for the help.

[ish]

Was George and Cindy's producer friend in court with them?

[puzzler]

We better be careful with the name calling ... just a caution ... I don't want to be banned along with others ...

But yes, he got in the middle of the press people as they were walking away from the presser, handing Baez a business card and patting him on the shoulder and ... then saying to Andrea "You had a typo on your (?) I sent you an email ..."

I thought joining the REAL press people was kind of bold, but telling Andrea she had a typo ?????????? :scared: OMG

He then he tried to carry on a conversation with Lyon and her investigator, Mort? as they continues to walk away ...

Unbelievable ...:glare:


Thanks for the warning. I wasn't really name calling...in my naivete I thought I wasn't supposed to give his real name.:blushing:

Anyway, unbelieveable. He told Lyon she had a typo in her book. LOL
I am sure she needed him to tell her that.

And what, does he think Baez is going to call him up and divulge the defense strategy or what?

This case has really brought out the kooks.

[FindAnswers]

I had the same hesitation because of the smirk KP. I did start watching it but could only stomach about half before I turned it off.

He's got nothing to say so why doesn't he stay away from the cameras?

The judge JUST finished telling Casey she could have no contact with Amy, so her attorney goes in front of news cameras and tells Amy she can always feel free to contact him?

Not one reporter called him on that?

What makes Baez think that Amy would want to be friends with a theif and lying child killer?

[denjet]

From the presser that Baez and company did after court:

Baez: we're not making any statements about Mr Kronk, in fact I've made it clear we've never pointed the finger at him, (insert Kathi's WTH? face) this is impeachable material on a witness that we would do on any witness of course he's a critical witness and um should it ever come up we would address it at that point, we're not making any disparaging remarks

Kathi: but your motion says that he is could be a suspect in this case, now you seem to be backpeddling

Baez: No, it's not a backpeddler in any way, we believe should have been looked into, he should have had his phone records searched just like everybody else, he should have been questioned thoroughly at the scene, that day and questioned afterwards, in fact, if you all recall, we have a 3 minute statement from Mr Kronk on December 11th and, quite frankly, that's shoddy police work and it should have been more thorough and it would have been nice if for someone to discover hey I called you guys 4 months ago

Kathi: What the connection that you're making between Kronk and Caylee, what possible connection can you make between the two of them that you're saying he should be a suspect

Baez: Well, it's nothing we're going to discuss at this time .. we're going to bring this up in court, as we've said all along
:blink: :blink: :blink:

[FindAnswers]

I found it after I was told the correct name. I had his name all wrong!
Thanks for the help.

You're welcome.

[enigma™]

Baez says:

She will plead to what she is guilty of & nothing more.

I won't believe Casey will go to trial for Caylee's murder until I see said trial happen.

And Dr. Lillian Glass was right on... again.

The second Baez makes the claim that Casey is sorry... he does indeed shake his head 'no' as he begins to make that claim.

I noticed that, (bolded), as well. Actually, during that whole post-hearing interview, all I could think of was Jose "bobblehead" Baez. MUO

[ish]

I had the same hesitation because of the smirk KP. I did start watching it but could only stomach about half before I turned it off.

He's got nothing to say so why doesn't he stay away from the cameras?

The judge JUST finished telling Casey she could have no contact with Amy, so her attorney goes in front of news cameras and tells Amy she can always feel free to contact him?

Not one reporter called him on that?

I'm sure Amy just fell over her own feet trying to get to her phone when she heard the Jose would love to talk to her. More likely she changed her own number to an unlisted one.

[puzzler]

From the presser that Baez and company did after court:

Baez: we're not making any statements about Mr Kronk, in fact I've made it clear we've never pointed the finger at him, (insert Kathi's WTH? face) this is impeachable material on a witness that we would do on any witness of course he's a critical witness and um should it ever come up we would address it at that point, we're not making any disparaging remarks

Kathi: but your motion says that he is could be a suspect in this case, now you seem to be backpeddling

Baez: No, it's not a backpeddler in any way, we believe should have been looked into, he should have had his phone records searched just like everybody else, he should have been questioned thoroughly at the scene, that day and questioned afterwards, in fact, if you all recall, we have a 3 minute statement from Mr Kronk on December 11th and, quite frankly, that's shoddy police work and it should have been more thorough and it would have been nice if for someone to discover hey I called you guys 4 months ago

Kathi: What the connection that you're making between Kronk and Caylee, what possible connection can you make between the two of them that you're saying he should be a suspect

Baez: Well, it's nothing we're going to discuss at this time .. we're going to bring this up in court, as we've said all along
:blink: :blink: :blink:

So, wth is he saying..they are not accusing Kronk, it's just that he should have been looked at and wasn't (in the defense's opionion) ergo Casey is innocent? I don't follow the logic.
I guess they are going to try to say that the police work was so shoddy that every thing they did is suspect and therefore they have no case against Casey.
Not going to work IMO. There is plenty of evidence against Casey!

[denjet]

Casey is innocent and a bra is not Lingerie...:biggrin:

Notice he said "A bra" ... wow ... 13 felony counts for stealing A bra !! They sure have a way of down playing her "crime spree" ... which, IMO, only ended when Amy's money ran out ... that's why I get so annoyed when Baez says it was only around $600 and she's being overcharged ... but if Amy account had $10,000 in it, that would be gone too and she would have taken off most likely ...

[Spots™]

After reading this "What was even more maddening was when Jose Baez (whom I must admit does look rather dapper and handsome and does try to maintain his professional composure through his well spoken sonorous voice)", I'm sorry but I don't take much notice of what this woman has to say and, in fact, most of what she's written about the players in this case has all been said by various posters here. JMHO.

I, too, have reservations about her interpretations.

I happened to catch the end of a radio show last weekend. The guest was a male body language expert (sorry, I never did catch his name). The thing that impressed me the most was that he stressed that you cannot apply absolutes to interpreting body language. For instance, looking down and to the left while speaking does not *always* mean the speaker is lying. He stated this several times during the five or so minutes I listened.

Dr. Glass does use absolutes in her interpretations. So, I read her blog and reach for the salt shaker.

I did hear this exact interpretation (looking down and left = lying) on an old CSI the other night.

[KP1935]

I had the same hesitation because of the smirk KP. I did start watching it but could only stomach about half before I turned it off.

He's got nothing to say so why doesn't he stay away from the cameras?

The judge JUST finished telling Casey she could have no contact with Amy, so her attorney goes in front of news cameras and tells Amy she can always feel free to contact him?

Not one reporter called him on that?

I chuckled as Belich went after him regarding Kronk - did you see her tilt her head as if to say "Huh?" when Baez claimed they weren't claiming Kronk should be a suspect. Then after he tells her to wait til he's done, she says, "but you wrote that in your motion?" LOL he went on to ramble, but all I heard was "Waaaaa whaaaa, whaaa" (ala Peanuts)

I wish just once when ole Jose and Lyon walk out the door all the media would be sitting on the curb with their backs to them ignoring them. (oh and have a camera situated on the door so we can see their reactions!) It would be hilarious!

[puzzler]

Notice he said "A bra" ... wow ... 13 felony counts for stealing A bra !! They sure have a way of down playing her "crime spree" ... which, IMO, only ended when Amy's money ran out ... that's why I get so annoyed when Baez says it was only around $600 and she's being overcharged ... but if Amy account had $10,000 in it, that would be gone too and she would have taken off most likely ...

BBM This is absolutely true. Just because Amy only had $600 does not diminish that she took every dime and tried to go past the amt only to find out she had already wiped it out. GRRRR:cursing:

[Barbara fl.]

What was the point of that "little performance" anyway? The judge had already given his decision. It was all over. It didn't do her any good to apologize. Now if she had done it before the verdict they could say she was trying to show the judge that she was remorseful and had learned her lesson, hopefully to influence his thoughts. But why do it afterwards, when it wasn't going to do any good? She could have saved herself the humiliation.


Hi everyone, haven't been on in awhile due to personal busibess...

I truly believe that Casey apologized to try and get a point across...point being that she would own up to something when she was guilty....thus trying to help her upcoming trial when she denies she murdered her daughter...but guess what? IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK...

The only outside world that Casey will ever see again will be when she is walking thru that door in court...and thru those bars in prison...

As for Kronks ex...if thats the best the defense can drudge up, it shows just how desperate they really are...:laugh:

[FindAnswers]

The inner workings of what Baez considers his brain?

I kid.

Only because I have no clue why Baez would make such an ignorant statement.

I mean... I have an idea of why Baez would make such an ignorant statement. I think Baez is a bona fide idiot. Hence the statement.

I'm very close to knowing for sure that Baez is an idiot. :)

lol I wonder what the judge thought when he heard Baez encouraging Amy to ignore his demand of "No contact" with the victim?

Considering that Baez claims he did not know the jail procedures in regards to hugging the inmate and needed to be repremanded more than once. I am not shocked he doesn't understand orders from the judge either.

[denjet]

I had the same hesitation because of the smirk KP. I did start watching it but could only stomach about half before I turned it off.

He's got nothing to say so why doesn't he stay away from the cameras?

The judge JUST finished telling Casey she could have no contact with Amy, so her attorney goes in front of news cameras and tells Amy she can always feel free to contact him?

Not one reporter called him on that?

I know!! We might see that statement come up in an article (I hope)
What an idiot !! and no mention about them trying to make Amy look like a drug addict or having something to do with Caylee's death or that maybe she was the nanny .... unbelievable ... and KC still wants to be her friend ... run Amy, run ...

[Tia]

I'm sure Amy just fell over her own feet trying to get to her phone when she heard the Jose would love to talk to her. More likely she changed her own number to an unlisted one.

I bet Amy is glad her part is OVER!! I wonder what she thought of Casey's lovely apology?

[BettyC]

I chuckled as Belich went after him regarding Kronk - did you see her tilt her head as if to say "Huh?" when Baez claimed they weren't claiming Kronk should be a suspect. Then after he tells her to wait til he's done, she says, "but you wrote that in your motion?" LOL he went on to ramble, but all I heard was "Waaaaa whaaaa, whaaa" (ala Peanuts)

I wish just once when ole Jose and Lyon walk out the door all the media would be sitting on the curb with their backs to them ignoring them. (oh and have a camera situated on the door so we can see their reactions!) It would be hilarious!

Oh I'd love to see that happen with Cindy and George too.

[Barbara fl.]

So, wth is he saying..they are not accusing Kronk, it's just that he should have been looked at and wasn't (in the defense's opionion) ergo Casey is innocent? I don't follow the logic.
I guess they are going to try to say that the police work was so shoddy that every thing they did is suspect and therefore they have no case against Casey.
Not going to work IMO. There is plenty of evidence against Casey!


I do believe that is their only defense...I doubt very much if they can convince a jury that Kronk murdered Caylee...

Let's face it..he's not a 10....so how would Cindy play that off? :biggrin:

[ish]

What was the point of that "little performance" anyway? The judge had already given his decision. It was all over. It didn't do her any good to apologize. Now if she had done it before the verdict they could say she was trying to show the judge that she was remorseful and had learned her lesson, hopefully to influence his thoughts. But why do it afterwards, when it wasn't going to do any good? She could have saved herself the humiliation.

Isn't it better court etiquette to apologize to the Court and to the victim, not a statement like " I want to let everybody know....".

Her liittle head and shoulders upright and the sniffling, you just know that was the way she used to cop to her bad behavior with Cindy when Cindy was finally able to break her down and get the "truth" (and I hesitate to call anything from Casey's mouth the truth) from her.

[BettyC]

I know!! We might see that statement come up in an article (I hope)
What an idiot !! and no mention about them trying to make Amy look like a drug addict or having something to do with Caylee's death or that maybe she was the nanny .... unbelievable ... and KC still wants to be her friend ... run Amy, run ...

You're right denjet. After reading Cindy's "rock" DCasey's report and opinion about Amy, I'm sure she wants to hook up with this family again.

Do they think people aren't aware of what they've done?

[really3997]

http://www.wftv.com/video/22335740/index.html

JB.

did anyone catch the producer that came up at the end of the footage. Could not hear what show he was from.

[puzzler]

Hi everyone, haven't been on in awhile due to personal busibess...

I truly believe that Casey apologized to try and get a point across...point being that she would own up to something when she was guilty....thus trying to help her upcoming trial when she denies she murdered her daughter...but guess what? IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK...

The only outside world that Casey will ever see again will be when she is walking thru that door in court...and thru those bars in prison...

As for Kronks ex...if thats the best the defense can drudge up, it shows just how desperate they really are...:laugh:

I think this is exactly what they were going for. Notice Baez told the media that Casey would plead to anything she was guilty of and nothing more (not an exact quote, but close). Insinuation being she is not guilty of the murder, I assume. Whatever, Baez.:angry:

[*MoonRider*]

BBM This is absolutely true. Just because Amy only had $600 does not diminish that she took every dime and tried to go past the amt only to find out she had already wiped it out. GRRRR:cursing:

She tried to pay her $500 plus phone bill but there were no funds left.

[jammies]

Isn't it better court etiquette to apologize to the Court and to the victim, not a statement like " I want to let everybody know....".

Her liittle head and shoulders upright and the sniffling, you just know that was the way she used to cop to her bad behavior with Cindy when Cindy was finally able to break her down and get the "truth" (and I hesitate to call anything from Casey's mouth the truth) from her.


I can see Casey practicing the performance in her cell until she got it just right. Tears and all.

[FindAnswers]

Hmmm... good call.

I didn't look at it like that. You might be right.

You're definitely right that it won't work.

It won't work because a year of time served is not the same as possible death or life in prison if she admits to murdering her child.

The defense thought processes baffle me.

[denjet]

You're right denjet. After reading Cindy's "rock" DCasey's report and opinion about Amy, I'm sure she wants to hook up with this family again.

Do they think people aren't aware of what they've done?

I know, Bett ... I'm sure Amy was harassed by them and the lawyers to try and get the charges dropped too ... the fact that Amy had to even get a lawyer doesn't sit well with most people ... SHE was the victim!

[jammies]

She tried to pay her $500 plus phone bill but there were no funds left.

So who was she going to "borrow" from next?

[desmom]

From the presser that Baez and company did after court:

Baez: we're not making any statements about Mr Kronk, in fact I've made it clear we've never pointed the finger at him, (insert Kathi's WTH? face) this is impeachable material on a witness that we would do on any witness of course he's a critical witness and um should it ever come up we would address it at that point, we're not making any disparaging remarks

Kathi: but your motion says that he is could be a suspect in this case, now you seem to be backpeddling

Baez: No, it's not a backpeddler in any way, we believe should have been looked into, he should have had his phone records searched just like everybody else, he should have been questioned thoroughly at the scene, that day and questioned afterwards, in fact, if you all recall, we have a 3 minute statement from Mr Kronk on December 11th and, quite frankly, that's shoddy police work and it should have been more thorough and it would have been nice if for someone to discover hey I called you guys 4 months ago

Kathi: What the connection that you're making between Kronk and Caylee, what possible connection can you make between the two of them that you're saying he should be a suspect

Baez: Well, it's nothing we're going to discuss at this time .. we're going to bring this up in court, as we've said all along
:blink: :blink: :blink:

Hmm, Jim Hoover, Dominic Casey, Keith Williams, Joy Wray and others have stated they searched this area several times. I wonder why Jose is not focusing on one of them. jmo

[Barbara fl.]

I think this is exactly what they were going for. Notice Baez told the media that Casey would plead to anything she was guilty of and nothing more (not an exact quote, but close). Insinuation being she is not guilty of the murder, I assume. Whatever, Baez.:angry:


It just all proves that the defense really doesn't have a defense...they are at a loss...pulling straws...

Casey can forget it...she is going...

And that Lyons just gets under my skin....I can half understand her being against the death penality but she is cradeling a murderer...she acts like she is all for the murderers....what's her problem? Whee is the sympathy for little Caylee?

[Spots™]

Raw Interview: Jose Baez Talks About Casey's Check Fraud Hearing
http://www.wftv.com/video/22343252/index.html

Jose can't stop grinning at the thought that the media is waiting just for him. So full of himself.....

I can't wait until the SA pops his little red balloon.

[Barbara fl.]

So who was she going to "borrow" from next?


A list of her friends would help....:laugh:

[denjet]

did anyone catch the producer that came up at the end of the footage. Could not hear what show he was from.

I saw him and thought he was from a spanish station that Baez was going to give an interview with ... I could be wrong

[FindAnswers]

Hmm, Jim Hoover, Dominic Casey, Keith Williams, Joy Wray and others have stated they searched this area several times. I wonder why Jose is not focusing on one of them. jmo

You are so right. Especially Joy wray and her husband. they have domestic violence and child abuse and baker act history. They also live in the area. Why isn't Baez focusing on any one of those people you listed?

Another point. Isn't it a statistical fact that some killers insert themselves into the case and try and get close to the family and investigation after they kill? Why isn't Baez investigating others?

[cassidy]

I agree. She came into court all excited and smiling, like it was opening night. I half expected her to bow when she finished her little "performance".

No kidding. I haven't seen her strut like that since the early days right after her arrest.

JMO