Sunday Jan 24, 2010

[Texas48]

HaLeigh Ann Marie Cummings

[Mimi428]

Thanks for starting the new thread, neighbor. Much appreciated.

[VivaViva]

Thanks Mimi for the new thread- on the radio show, Levi Page said the time clocks at PDM were not working properly the night HaLeigh went missing-

[Mimi428]

Thanks Mimi for the new thread- on the radio show, Levi Page said the time clocks at PDM were not working properly the night HaLeigh went missing-

Actually, it was my good neighbor Texas48 who started the thread.

Did Levi say what the nature of the malfunction was with the time clocks at PDM? IOW, was it that they weren't working at all & were not being used? Or that they were being used, but were not accurate?

TIA

[VivaViva]

Actually, it was my good neighbor Texas48 who started the thread.

Did Levi say what the nature of the malfunction was with the time clocks at PDM? IOW, was it that they weren't working at all & were not being used? Or that they were being used, but were not accurate?

TIA

Aww, lol, I cant listen and comprehend at the same time- TY Texas48-

He did not expand- and I wish he did, only that after this all happened they replaced the clocks to a more secure time clock or something, finger scan maybe?

[5boxersmom]

Thanks Mimi for the new thread- on the radio show, Levi Page said the time clocks at PDM were not working properly the night HaLeigh went missing-

Hmm. I think LE would have been all over that.

jmo imo

[Mimi428]

Aww, lol, I cant listen and comprehend at the same time- TY Texas48-

He did not expand- and I wish he did, only that after this all happened they replaced the clocks to a more secure time clock or something, finger scan maybe?

That's OK - keep listening & then give us an update when you can.

[VivaViva]

Hmm. I think LE would have been all over that.

jmo imo

Maybe they have been, we arent privy to what they know- On the radio show Levi said they all knew their phones were bugged and used to wish the LE merry xmas and what not when they would talk on the phone- so they knew they were being taped and recorded, and still dealt drugs- real smart-

[Mel]

Thanks Mimi for the new thread- on the radio show, Levi Page said the time clocks at PDM were not working properly the night HaLeigh went missing-

i always thought that rumor was probably NOT just a rumor!...

[Ontario]

I am wondering when Misty will break, as she is coming down from the ozyo (sp) and all other drugs that she was using, and it is a very difficult experience, they usually give them something to help with the withdrawal, I was hoping that they could say we can ease the pain you are in, but you must answe and only the truth or no medicine to help you, can they do that?

[VivaViva]

I am wondering when Misty will break, as she is coming down from the ozyo (sp) and all other drugs that she was using, and it is a very difficult experience, they usually give them something to help with the withdrawal, I was hoping that they could say we can ease the pain you are in, but you must answe and only the truth or no medicine to help you, can they do that?

Oh, and TJ just said on the show, that Misty is having a very hard time right now- I take it as shes withdrawling hard-

[Mel]

Oh, and TJ just said on the show, that Misty is having a very hard time right now- I take it as shes withdrawling hard-

i just turned it on...are they talking about Donna B right now?

[5boxersmom]

Maybe they have been, we arent privy to what they know- On the radio show Levi said they all knew their phones were bugged and used to wish the LE merry xmas and what not when they would talk on the phone- so they knew they were being taped and recorded, and still dealt drugs- real smart-

Hmm. If that is true then it has all been a game to them.

My heart is broke for HaLeigh. If Ron did something to her or knows what happen I hope he rots. I could never wrap my mind around him doing something to her, but I am now starting to think he did or at least knows.

Ron acts just like some of these women who bring an abusive boyfriend/or husband into their homes around their children and then deny it when something happens to their kids.

Why else would he still be around Misty? I just can't talk myself into believing him anymore.

I alway said I needed more proof about RC and now I think I have it.

There is just no other explanation for his behavior.

And on a lighter note, I hate it that Geraldo was probably right about him. hammer Can't stand that man.

jmo

[Mel]

"the Jersey Shores of reality shows in Putnam County", LOL....i believe that was TJ Hart speaking

[VivaViva]

I just cant wrap my mind around Ron branding misty with his name forever- this is the woman who cops say are lying and knows what happened to his flesh and blood!!!!!!!! Is anyone else bothered by that?

[CC I See]

Oh, and TJ just said on the show, that Misty is having a very hard time right now- I take it as shes withdrawling hard-

... so you can just imagine how hard it would be on a newborn going through withdrawals. Terrible kind of child abuse in my opinion.

[VivaViva]

... so you can just imagine how hard it would be on a newborn going through withdrawals. Terrible kind of child abuse in my opinion.

What does this have to do with my post? Is Misty pregnant, is that what you are saying?

[Mimi428]

Hmm. I think LE would have been all over that.

jmo imo

I truly believe LE has been all over all kinds of things. We just don't know about them because nobody has been arrested with charges relating to Haleigh's disappearance.

As an example, I have every confidence in the world that LE has already gotten phone records for everyone in Haleigh's family & some of the secondary people in Haleigh's life - & that they have mapped out times & places for a bunch of them during the time period leading up to & after Haleigh went missing.

JMO

[CFMom]

I just cant wrap my mind around Ron branding misty with his name forever- this is the woman who cops say are lying and knows what happened to his flesh and blood!!!!!!!! Is anyone else bothered by that?

OMG he didnt brand her its a darn tattoo in which she herself ok'd. You make it sound like he held her down...geeesh.

[Themis]

Maybe they have been, we arent privy to what they know- On the radio show Levi said they all knew their phones were bugged and used to wish the LE merry xmas and what not when they would talk on the phone- so they knew they were being taped and recorded, and still dealt drugs- real smart-
(1) They were/are not real smart; (2) they had other non-traceable phones for setting up appointments to buy and sell; (3) they believed they were/are smarter than L.E.; (4) there were other people whom they believed were not under L.E.'s microscope actually making the appointments using non-traceable phones; (5) they all have a great sense of humor. [JMO * Themis]

P.S. All of them are under the influence so much of the time they cannot think straight - common sense

[5boxersmom]

I truly believe LE has been all over all kinds of things. We just don't know about them because nobody has been arrested with charges relating to Haleigh's disappearance.

As an example, I have every confidence in the world that LE has already gotten phone records for everyone in Haleigh's family & some of the secondary people in Haleigh's life - & that they have mapped out times & places for a bunch of them during the time period leading up to & after Haleigh went missing.

JMO

I sure hope so Mimi.

[VivaViva]

When there was talk about more arrests, I thought more drug arrests but TJ said he thinks there will be arrests concerning Haleigh.

I sure hope he's right.

TJ also said, the arrests could also by HaLeigh related- let us pray!

[Mel]

TJ also said, the arrests could also by HaLeigh related- let us pray!

Levi believes the same thing

[VivaViva]

LE has told TJ that they are very close to solving HaLeighs case-

[Mel]

LE has told TJ that they are very close to solving HaLeighs case-

God, i hope this is true!

[tia marie]

LE has told TJ that they are very close to solving HaLeighs case-

Do you think someone finally came clean, Tommy? Misty?

[5boxersmom]

LE has told TJ that they are very close to solving HaLeighs case-

I soooo hope that is true.

[Mel]

Steph Watts to interview Tim Miller tonight

[spiritwolf46]

I soooo hope that is true.

Me, too!!!!!!

Bring that baby HOME!

[Mimi428]

LE has told TJ that they are very close to solving HaLeighs case-

I hope his source is close enough to the investigation for that to be true.

[VivaViva]

Do you think someone finally came clean, Tommy? Misty?

I feel Misty is going to talk-

[Dunlurken]

i just turned it on...are they talking about Donna B right now?


What are you guys listening to? I don't have a radio close to my computer. Do I need one? HELP, or keep us poor souls informed. JMO.

[Mel]

i can't understand one word this caller is saying???:confused:

[Mel]

What are you guys listening to? I don't have a radio close to my computer. Do I need one? HELP, or keep us poor souls informed. JMO.

blog talk radio

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett/2010/01/24/haleigh-cummings-update--and-others

[Mel]

LOL...the caller was saying something about excessive bail...Simon cut him off, saying it was "boring"

[Scampi]

I just cant wrap my mind around Ron branding misty with his name forever- this is the woman who cops say are lying and knows what happened to his flesh and blood!!!!!!!! Is anyone else bothered by that?

I think you have a point. Another form of intimidation, as in I own you. imo.

[HouseOfClark]

Best news I've heard since the drug trafficking arrests. It just keeps getting better and better. :thumbsup:

He also made a point of them seperating Ron and Misty so there's no possiblity of communication.

Yeah, it's all too obvious they weren't separated when they were "divorced".

[Mimi428]

Do you think someone finally came clean, Tommy? Misty?

My money would be on Tommy, if for no other reason than I hope he would start to contemplate his situation & start thinking that he owes far more loyalty to his wife & his children than he does to Ron.

Problem is, he may feel an enormous amount of loyalty to Misty, as his kin.

[Mel]

I think you have a point. Another form of intimidation, as in I own you. imo.

right...'we will always be together'...'you're mine', etc...makes me want to throw up, ugh....

[Dunlurken]

blog talk radio

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/simon-barrett/2010/01/24/haleigh-cummings-update--and-others

THANKS! Wow, what is a Roxy?

[Mel]

THANKS! Wow, what is a Roxy?

drugs.......dang, i just missed what TJ Hart said about Donna B!!!!

[HouseOfClark]

LE has told TJ that they are very close to solving HaLeighs case-

If true, it doesn't surprise me in the least.

I hope it's true.

[Dunlurken]

Donna Brock asked for a public defender?

[Mel]

oh...i think they're talking about how Donna B has asked for a public defender?

[Texas48]

TJ also said, the arrests could also by HaLeigh related- let us pray!
I thought I read somewhere..LE made a statement ...kinda to that effect..in a round about way..hinting at it without saying those exact words..have read so effing much I can't remember which place it was at..so..guess I'll say..Just my thoughts..for right now.

[VivaViva]

I was getting ready to ask who do you think talked?
I think Misty or her brother.

I just dont think Tommy knows, I think this is Misty and Ronalds secret, and maybe some of his family, I dont think they would trust Tommy, no way- I bet Tommy wishes he knows-

[VivaViva]

Donna was working night at a circus-

[HouseOfClark]

right...'we will always be together'...'you're mine', etc...makes me want to throw up, ugh....

Now now, you know it was a memorial tattoo, paid for by some well meaning soul, as a way to remember Ron after the divorce....

Oh, you're not buying that?

[Mel]

i missed the majority of the show...i think it's almost over...

oh well, just glad to hear sources say Haleigh's case is close to being cracked...:)
if that's the case, then it's got to do with these drug busts, & holding all these clowns in a jail cell...jmo

[Dunlurken]

Whose the guy with the English accent?

[Texas48]

LE has told TJ that they are very close to solving HaLeighs case-
Ya know..after a year investigation they must know something..I know good and well they had their suspicions..so I hope that is a true statement Viva..

[Mel]

Donna was working night at a circus-

:confused:....LOL @a circus

[HouseOfClark]

Donna was working night at a circus-

Stop.....a circus?

Like clowns and stuff?

[Texas48]

I feel Misty is going to talk-
I felt Tommy was the weaker of the 2..??

[Mel]

Levi thinks Donna is the one singin like a canary, but i have a hard time believing Donna really knows much of anything...

TJ Hart thinks Tommy will be the first to talk...& that Misty will crack eventually

[Scampi]

My money would be on Tommy, if for no other reason than I hope he would start to contemplate his situation & start thinking that he owes far more loyalty to his wife & his children than he does to Ron.

Problem is, he may feel an enormous amount of loyalty to Misty, as his kin.

I agree with your reasoning Mims and would only add that perhaps Tommy knows that the possibility of a headless rat being delivered to him now is slim to none........... :sneaky:

[HouseOfClark]

LE said the two cases were parallel but separate.

But at some point they would intersect.

(Maybe they reached that point?)

[Dunlurken]

Stop.....a circus?

Like clowns and stuff?

Yes, but it hasn't been proven yet. LOl.

[Mel]

Whose the guy with the English accent?

Simon......

[HouseOfClark]

Levi thinks Donna is the one singin like a canary, but i have a hard time believing Donna really knows much of anything...

TJ Hart thinks Tommy will be the first to talk...& that Misty will crack eventually


That's what I said earlier.

<waves at TJ 'cause I know he's reading here!>

[Mimi428]

Donna was working night at a circus-

Can't disagree with that, considering how much time she was spending with the 'clown posse'.

[VivaViva]

Stop.....a circus?

Like clowns and stuff?

LOL, I guess so-

[Scampi]

Stop.....a circus?

Like clowns and stuff?


Florida is the winter home of the circus, isn't it?


:smile:

[Mel]

Levi thinks something big is coming in the coming weeks...maybe coming days...

TJ pretty much thinks the same way...."relatively soon"

[Justice4all]

Donna was working night at a circus-

A Circus? Was she a clown?

[Scampi]

Can't disagree with that, considering how much time she was spending with the 'clown posse'.


lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dunlurken]

Here comes the sun! That's my new motto. Very interesting conversation, thanks for the link guys!

[datacop]

I thought I read somewhere..LE made a statement ...kinda to that effect..in a round about way..hinting at it without saying those exact words..have read so effing much I can't remember which place it was at..so..guess I'll say..Just my thoughts..for right now.


Are you thinking about LE saying the cases could/would cross?

Lets hope so.

[Mel]

Can't disagree with that, considering how much time she was spending with the 'clown posse'.

clown posse.....:laugh:

[HouseOfClark]

Florida is the winter home of the circus, isn't it?


:smile:

Heck if I know. Circus comes to town in February here.

[Mimi428]

I agree with your reasoning Mims and would only add that perhaps Tommy knows that the possibility of a headless rat being delivered to him now is slim to none........... :sneaky:

Preeeeeeeeecisely!

I honestly believe if folks in & around the Ronald Cummings circle of influence knew with assurance that he was locked up & was going to STAY locked up for a long time, a whole lot of info would come out from people who just are NOT willing to put themselves into a position of being in Ron's crosshairs.

They don't want to meet up with Ron's bridge messages, they don't want to receive headless rat messages, all that stuff.

JMO

[datacop]

i missed the majority of the show...i think it's almost over...

oh well, just glad to hear sources say Haleigh's case is close to being cracked...:)
if that's the case, then it's got to do with these drug busts, & holding all these clowns in a jail cell...jmo



Don't feel bad. I missed the whole thing, but they should have it archived later this afternoon. It doesn't seem to take 'em long.

[HouseOfClark]

Levi thinks something big is coming in the coming weeks...maybe coming days...

TJ pretty much thinks the same way...."relatively soon"

Sooner rather than later?

If we're still waiting another month......

[Justice4all]

Levi thinks something big is coming in the coming weeks...maybe coming days...

TJ pretty much thinks the same way...."relatively soon"

I agree with Levi and TJ about something big is about to happen. I hope they find Haleigh alive but I just don't think that will happen.'


MOO

[Scampi]

Heck if I know. Circus comes to town in February here.

March here, course in Orlando the circus is in town every day....lol.


:tongueside:

[Mel]

Viva....thanks so much for keeping us up on Simon's radio show...i only wish i had caught it from the beginning..

[HouseOfClark]

Preeeeeeeeecisely!

I honestly believe if folks in & around the Ronald Cummings circle of influence knew with assurance that he was locked up & was going to STAY locked up for a long time, a whole lot of info would come out from people who just are NOT willing to put themselves into a position of being in Ron's crosshairs.

They don't want to meet up with Ron's bridge messages, they don't want to receive headless rat messages, all that stuff.

JMO

Ed Zachary!

[Justice4all]

I see Marie is asking everyone to pray for Cummings/Croslin families. :rose:

[Mel]

Preeeeeeeeecisely!

I honestly believe if folks in & around the Ronald Cummings circle of influence knew with assurance that he was locked up & was going to STAY locked up for a long time, a whole lot of info would come out from people who just are NOT willing to put themselves into a position of being in Ron's crosshairs.

They don't want to meet up with Ron's bridge messages, they don't want to receive headless rat messages, all that stuff.

JMO

of course...folks will tend to talk more, now that RC's behind bars...he's not a threat to anyone anymore:)

[datacop]

Levi thinks Donna is the one singin like a canary, but i have a hard time believing Donna really knows much of anything...

TJ Hart thinks Tommy will be the first to talk...& that Misty will crack eventually


Donna is suppose to have some infamous tapes of what Misty's told her. LE can't use the tapes but if she tells them something, they can verify, it could still lead them where they need to be. Does that sound right?

[Dunlurken]

I see Marie is asking everyone to pray for Cummings/Croslin families. :rose:

Where'd you see that? Was it part of the radio show that I missed? JMO.

[Mel]

Donna is suppose to have some infamous tapes of what Misty's told her. LE can't use the tapes but if she tells them something, they can verify, it could still lead them where they need to be. Does that sound right?

yes, it sounds right:seeya:

i just have a feeling Misty wouldn't have told DB toooooo much....i hope i'm wrong....course i must admit, from what i've heard, i don't think much of Donna B..

[Justice4all]

of course...folks will tend to talk more, now that RC's behind bars...he's not a threat to anyone anymore:)

He's been in jail almost a week,...Why hasn't Haleigh been found if people are able to talk now without fear Ron will do whatever to them?

[Texas48]

Are you thinking about LE saying the cases could/would cross?

Lets hope so.
Exactly..and the fact I knew LE would not give up on a missing child case..no matter how long it took..they don't just stop. LE had to be watching and planning..waiting for the right time..and that time came. This is their chance and I hope it hasn't been wasted... but..keep in mind they did get drug dealers off the streets so..thats a good thing.
Finding HaLeigh would be a great thing.

[Justice4all]

Where'd you see that? Was it part of the radio show that I missed? JMO.

On her facebook

[Dunlurken]

Donna is suppose to have some infamous tapes of what Misty's told her. LE can't use the tapes but if she tells them something, they can verify, it could still lead them where they need to be. Does that sound right?

Yes, and LE can use the tapes if they have been turned over to them. Evidence. All someone needs to say is the name Donna Brock and it's no longer heresay. Especially if she, who owns the tapes, turns them over. LE didn't tape Misty, Donna did if I'm reading you correctly. JMO.

[HouseOfClark]

I see Marie is asking everyone to pray for Cummings/Croslin families. :rose:

Would that be a bad thing?

[CFMom]

im so excited something is actually happening in this case.

[Mel]

why can't someone get rid of that sticky at the top of the main page?????....it's annoying, lol
....why make a thread like these a sticky anyway?

[Dunlurken]

On her facebook
Must I go there? :rolleyes: I'll take your word for it.

[Mimi428]

Donna is suppose to have some infamous tapes of what Misty's told her. LE can't use the tapes but if she tells them something, they can verify, it could still lead them where they need to be. Does that sound right?

LE probably could not get the tapes entered into evidence in court, but they can still 'use' the tapes to further the investigation.

Example, LE has the tapes, listens to them, develops a plan on how to approach Misty.

Misty probably knows that Donna is in jail, too. So one of the investigators sits down with Misty & says...'Misty, Donna has made it clear that she is NOT going to take the fall for you & she has worked out a deal with the DA on how she is going to walk away free as a bird. Meanwhile, YOU are going to take the whole fall for Haleigh being missing. Do you want to be the only one locked up for a long time, or is there something you want to tell us?'

CWIM?

[Mel]

does anyone know when Simon's show will air again .... the one that just went off?...i want to hear it from the beginning..

[CFMom]

LE probably could not get the tapes entered into evidence in court, but they can still 'use' the tapes to further the investigation.

Example, LE has the tapes, listens to them, develops a plan on how to approach Misty.

Misty probably knows that Donna is in jail, too. So one of the investigators sits down with Misty & says...'Misty, Donna has made it clear that she is NOT going to take the fall for you & she has worked out a deal with the DA on how she is going to walk away free as a bird. Meanwhile, YOU are going to take the whole fall for Haleigh being missing. Do you want to be the only one locked up for a long time, or is there something you want to tell us?'

CWIM?

Oh my what if the tapes give a location of the body :sad::sad:

[Mel]

Exactly..and the fact I knew LE would not give up on a missing child case..no matter how long it took..they don't just stop. LE had to be watching and planning..waiting for the right time..and that time came. This is their chance and I hope it hasn't been wasted... but..keep in mind they did get drug dealers off the streets so..thats a good thing.
Finding HaLeigh would be a great thing.

i think LE had their eyes on Misty & RC from the very beginning....they had to simply wait it out, since Misty wouldn't crack...the drug bust was sent from heaven to get them all locked up, where they can't talk to each other....jmo

[HouseOfClark]

LE probably could not get the tapes entered into evidence in court, but they can still 'use' the tapes to further the investigation.

Example, LE has the tapes, listens to them, develops a plan on how to approach Misty.

Misty probably knows that Donna is in jail, too. So one of the investigators sits down with Misty & says...'Misty, Donna has made it clear that she is NOT going to take the fall for you & she has worked out a deal with the DA on how she is going to walk away free as a bird. Meanwhile, YOU are going to take the whole fall for Haleigh being missing. Do you want to be the only one locked up for a long time, or is there something you want to tell us?'

CWIM?

You know, all this tape talk is interesting when you remember Ron texting Misty to warn her about Donna.....

[Dunlurken]

Oh my what if the tapes give a location of the body :sad::sad:

Donna would have told already. JMO.

[CFMom]

You know, all this tape talk is interesting when you remember Ron texting Misty to warn her about Donna.....

Very true.

[Mel]

Donna is suppose to have some infamous tapes of what Misty's told her. LE can't use the tapes but if she tells them something, they can verify, it could still lead them where they need to be. Does that sound right?

apparently some of those secrets are mentioned on Simon's radio show just now...waiting to listen to it again:)

[CFMom]

Donna would have told already. JMO.

Not if she was dealing drugs with them.

[Mimi428]

He's been in jail almost a week,...Why hasn't Haleigh been found if people are able to talk now without fear Ron will do whatever to them?

Maybe the fear hasn't left them, yet. Maybe they are still in denial over what is going to happen to their personal behinds when their cases get to court. Maybe they are afraid that Ron will get out from under these charges like he has gotten out from other charges in the past. Maybe they don't know he isn't in the same facility they are in.

Could be 1001 reasons why they haven't (if they haven't). Heck, for all we know there has been a line half a block long of folks wanting to talk to the investigators - & they can't talk to all of them at the same time.

[VivaViva]

You know, all this tape talk is interesting when you remember Ron texting Misty to warn her about Donna.....

Maybe Ron is worried about Misty and Donna getting close for other reasons........:wink:

[HouseOfClark]

Donna would have told already. JMO.

No, not if she put drugs ahead of a child she had never met.

[Mel]

Donna would have told already. JMO.

agreed...they would have found her body by now...i tend to agree with Viva...where Haleigh is, is the bond/secret between Misty & RC...jmo

[CFMom]

She sure would have, imoo.

Not if she was doing drug deals with.

[Mel]

No, not if she put drugs ahead of a child she had never met.

i simply can't believe that Donna would be sitting in jail right now, if she knew where Haliegh was...i'd be completely blown away, if it's true..

[CFMom]

i simply can't believe that Donna would be sitting in jail right now, if she knew where Haliegh was...i'd be completely blown away, if it's true..

Well that is true to.

[Mel]

Maybe Ron is worried about Misty and Donna getting close for other reasons........:wink:

LOL..that's exactly what i thought:laugh:

[Dunlurken]

You know, all this tape talk is interesting when you remember Ron texting Misty to warn her about Donna.....

I don't remember that. Can you tell me more? And, do we have some proof? I say that in one breath and in the other I say... No proof of anything yet, except Haleigh is gone, and 5 people are finally in jail. But I like to hear what people have to offer re the disappearance of Haleigh. JMO.

Knowledge is a good thing, wherever it takes you.

[Mel]

It usually takes about a half hour.

thanks Grace!...i'll definately listen to the show in full then!

[Mimi428]

You know, all this tape talk is interesting when you remember Ron texting Misty to warn her about Donna.....

I'll tell ya, IMOO, I think both Ron & Misty have been doing a LOT of warning to one another since Haleigh disappeared. I think each of them knows stuff about the other one that could mean serious legal trouble if pursued by LE.

I think he stuck close by her to make sure he knew what she was saying to different people & what she was doing. I think she did the same to him.

JMO

[HouseOfClark]

i simply can't believe that Donna would be sitting in jail right now, if she knew where Haliegh was...i'd be completely blown away, if it's true..

I can't believe she's sitting in jail period.

What on earth could have possessed a grown woman with a family to hook up with a bunch of drug dealers/users?

Give up their whole life and lifestyle. And for what?

[VivaViva]

I can't believe she's sitting in jail period.

What on earth could have possessed a grown woman with a family to hook up with a bunch of drug dealers/users?

Give up their whole life and lifestyle. And for what?

Probably because she too is addicted to drugs-

jmo

[datacop]

LE probably could not get the tapes entered into evidence in court, but they can still 'use' the tapes to further the investigation.

Example, LE has the tapes, listens to them, develops a plan on how to approach Misty.

Misty probably knows that Donna is in jail, too. So one of the investigators sits down with Misty & says...'Misty, Donna has made it clear that she is NOT going to take the fall for you & she has worked out a deal with the DA on how she is going to walk away free as a bird. Meanwhile, YOU are going to take the whole fall for Haleigh being missing. Do you want to be the only one locked up for a long time, or is there something you want to tell us?'

CWIM?

I wasn't quite sure how it worked. I heard that she was trying to sell them .. a rumor, I know, but sure one that made sense.

[Mimi428]

Donna would have told already. JMO.

Yes, she would. We all know that she came into Ron & Misty's lives after Haleigh disappeared - there is nothing, anywhere that would connect Donna to the disappearance.

If she knew anything about the location of a body, she would have been hollaring from high to low the minute they got her handcuffed.

JMO

[HouseOfClark]

I think Donna would use information like the location of Haleigh's body for leverage with LE, kwim?

But would she know how it got there and who put it there?

[Dunlurken]

agreed...they would have found her body by now...i tend to agree with Viva...where Haleigh is, is the bond/secret between Misty & RC...jmo

I think Tommy is in there somewhere too. JMO.

[CFMom]

Probably because she too is addicted to drugs-

jmo

She looks like she uses bad. MOO

[datacop]

Yes, she would. We all know that she came into Ron & Misty's lives after Haleigh disappeared - there is nothing, anywhere that would connect Donna to the disappearance.

If she knew anything about the location of a body, she would have been hollaring from high to low the minute they got her handcuffed.

JMO

Who knows MAYBE she at that moment she was too high to hollar and before then she thought she had a good thing going? Just an idea, not even an opinion.

[Dunlurken]

But would she know how it got there and who put it there?

Donna doesn't know anything or else she wouldn't need a public defender. Unless she fears for her life if she gets out of jail? Wow, one's imagination can surely run wild on these boards. LOL.

[Justice4all]

Would that be a bad thing?

Why would you ask me something like that?
Of course it's not. Ron is Jr and Haleigh's father.
I think Marie's going through hell not knowing where her grand daughter is.


moo

[HouseOfClark]

Probably because she too is addicted to drugs-

jmo

Ugh...I can't imagine.

But did she get addicted from hanging out with Misty or was she already addicted and figured Ron and Misty could be considered a "source"?

Yeah, I know..which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Hey, didn't she volunteer her "services" of being a mentor to Misty? It wasn't something that TM looked through his records and just found her name was it?

[CFMom]

Ugh...I can't imagine.

But did she get addicted from hanging out with Misty or was she already addicted and figured Ron and Misty could be considered a "source"?

Yeah, I know..which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Hey, didn't she volunteer her "services" of being a mentor to Misty? It wasn't something that TM looked through his records and just found her name was it?

DB look like she is no stranger to drugs. IMO

[Justice4all]

Must I go there? :rolleyes: I'll take your word for it.

If you want to you can. If not...don't.
I just thought it was nice what Marie said and I wanted to share it with everyone.

[Mimi428]

I wasn't quite sure how it worked. I heard that she was trying to sell them .. a rumor, I know, but sure one that made sense.

Hmmmm, I wonder who she thought was going to buy them?

Considering she was using drugs, NOTHING would surprise me about what she - or any of them 'thought' at one time or another. Rational thinking & drug abuse are not friends.

[VivaViva]

Ugh...I can't imagine.

But did she get addicted from hanging out with Misty or was she already addicted and figured Ron and Misty could be considered a "source"?

Yeah, I know..which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Hey, didn't she volunteer her "services" of being a mentor to Misty? It wasn't something that TM looked through his records and just found her name was it?

Well, I am not an expert, but I think Donna has experimented quite a bit in her life, but who knows, maybe Misty did corrupt her and Ron and TN was right-

[HouseOfClark]

Why would you ask me something like that?
Of course it's not. Ron is Jr and Haleigh's father.
I think Marie's going through hell not knowing where her grand daughter is.


moo

Just asking. Your previous posts have never been that generous towards Marie, IMO.

I didn't know if you were being sarcastic or hoping to throw stones or call her a hypocrite for asking for prayer.

It's apparent from Marie's facebook, twitter, and tv appearances, that she has been a religious woman for quite some time.

JMO

[Mel]

I think Donna would use information like the location of Haleigh's body for leverage with LE, kwim?

seems if she knew where Haleigh's remains are, that's all the leverage she'd need, & she'd be out of jail.....course the wheels of justice turn slowly, i guess....hmm

[HouseOfClark]

Remember those 'secret' tapes that Donna was suppose to have made when she and Misty were buddies? Some are guessing that the information about the body COULD be on those.
Imhoo if that was true, Donna would have talked.

And long before she got arrested, IMO.

[CFMom]

Misty is upset and not handling jail well :lol::lol: She better get used to it.

[Mel]

Simon's radio show is back on now...(the repeat) :)

[Scampi]

LOL..that's exactly what i thought:laugh:

That sort of crossed my mind too......... :blushing:

[Dunlurken]

If you want to you can. If not...don't.
I just thought it was nice what Marie said and I wanted to share it with everyone.

Not a problem. I read what she wrote. I'll reserve judgement until after the trial of SOMEONE. JMO.

The entire family is all caught up in this web of deceit and lies. Donna got dragged into it because.... don't know about her. What's important to me is what happened to Haleigh. I don't give a rats azz who else is suffering. JMO. Haleigh is my focus, as it should be for everyone.

[Justice4all]

Just asking. Your previous posts have never been that generous towards Marie, IMO.

I didn't know if you were being sarcastic or hoping to throw stones or call her a hypocrite for asking for prayer.

It's apparent from Marie's facebook, twitter, and tv appearances, that she has been a religious woman for quite some time.

JMO

I've said over and over I don't personally like ANY of the adults in this case but I can tell Teresa and Marie are truly suffering.

When Marie and Crystal did the school supplies I sent stuff and flowers for Marie and Crystal.

[Justice4all]

yeah, & yesterday she said she thought Marie & Crystal know where Haleigh is....i have her on ignore...it's such a waste of effort to even read....

I've always prayed Crystal and Marie had Haleigh in hiding...what is wrong with that?

[VivaViva]

at that age it is probably a big deal to have a grown man want you. the putting of Sr. on there is pretty funny..like she was going to get mixed up as to whom it referred to?

And he branded the person that LE says is the key to finding his missing 6 year old child- no red flags there at all!

[Mel]

Mel,
That's exactly what I meant.

gotcha Rich:)

[jakee]

Misty is upset and not handling jail well :lol::lol: She better get used to it.

Yes, that really is too bad! :sneaky:

I didn't get to hear the whole radio blog show, so forgive me for asking, who told whom that Misty was not handling jail so well? Thanks.

[Justice4all]

And he branded the person that LE says is the key to finding his missing 6 year old child- no red flags there at all!

Yeah when I heard about Misty's new tattoo I had no doubt Ron knows exactly what happen to Haleigh. He might not have been the one to harm Haleigh but IMO he knows exactly what happen and he's not turning the person in.


JMHO

[Justice4all]

Misty is upset and not handling jail well :lol::lol: She better get used to it.

Oh yeah her and Ron both.

I wonder why they lowered Tommy's bond.

[CFMom]

Yes, that really is too bad! :sneaky:

I didn't get to hear the whole radio blog show, so forgive me for asking, who told whom that Misty was not handling jail so well? Thanks.

I dont know who is who i am just listening. Maybe someone else can answer. I just thought it was funny.

[Themis]

I've always prayed Crystal and Marie had Haleigh in hiding...what is wrong with that?
So much that I am now joining Mel. [ JMO * Themis]

[HouseOfClark]

Oh yeah her and Ron both.

I wonder why they lowered Tommy's bond.

They didn't lower Tommy's bond, they revoked it on account of him already being out on bond for the gun theft charges.

Apparently it's a condition of bond that you have to stay out of trouble.

Imagine that.

[CFMom]

They didn't lower Tommy's bond, they revoked it on account of him already being out on bond for the gun theft charges.

Apparently it's a condition of bond that you have to stay out of trouble.

Imagine that.

I hope all 5 dont see freedom for a while.

[jakee]

I dont know who is who i am just listening. Maybe someone else can answer. I just thought it was funny.

Well, I agree, it is funny! I was just wondering how this person found out that Misty is suffering. :) I appreciate the info they gathered!

I don't know who all the people were on the radio show either. They giggle a lot too. :laugh:

[VivaViva]

They didn't lower Tommy's bond, they revoked it on account of him already being out on bond for the gun theft charges.

Apparently it's a condition of bond that you have to stay out of trouble.

Imagine that.

Rons out on bond too, they should revoke his-

[datacop]

Donna doesn't know anything or else she wouldn't need a public defender. Unless she fears for her life if she gets out of jail? Wow, one's imagination can surely run wild on these boards. LOL.

If I were her, I'd still want a public defender/attorney so hopefully something didn't get screwed up along the way. This isn't a traffic ticket she's playing with.

[Justice4all]

They didn't lower Tommy's bond, they revoked it on account of him already being out on bond for the gun theft charges.

Apparently it's a condition of bond that you have to stay out of trouble.

Imagine that.

Ohhh okay i'm sorry. I had read on Levi's facebook LE lowered the bond. Sorry.

[CFMom]

Well, I agree, it is funny! I was just wondering how this person found out that Misty is suffering. :) I appreciate the info they gathered!

I don't know who all the people were on the radio show either. They giggle a lot too. :laugh:

I am thinking they have friends in LE.

[CFMom]

Rons out on bond too, they should revoke his-

Ron is out on bond???????:scared:

[datacop]

Remember those 'secret' tapes that Donna was suppose to have made when she and Misty were buddies? Some are guessing that the information about the body COULD be on those.
Imhoo if that was true, Donna would have talked.

I think more likely she knows something about what Misty was saying happened (true or not) and nothing about the body.

[Mimi428]

I've always prayed Crystal and Marie had Haleigh in hiding...what is wrong with that?

By the time any of us ever heard about Haleigh or the people in her young life, whatever happened to her was a done deal.

I wouldn't tell people what to pray for, but praying for something that would necessitate turning back the clock & unringing bells that have already been rung doesn't strike me as being very productive or realistic.

I have prayed that LE will find the answers, whatever those answers may be. I don't work on praying for things that could involve going back in time & changing things that have already taken place.

But that's just me, YMMV.

[Justice4all]

So much that I am now joining Mel. [ JMO * Themis]

What?

I've read on here a lot of people say they hope Crystal or Marie took Haleigh for her safety. I don't think that happen but I pray they did that because it would be Haleigh's alive.

I've said from day one I don't think Ron or Crystals involved with Haleigh being missing.

If you want to ignore me I totally understand though.


MOO

[CFMom]

Rons out on bond too, they should revoke his-

BUMP...what do you mean Rons out on bail too????

[datacop]

Hmmmm, I wonder who she thought was going to buy them?

Considering she was using drugs, NOTHING would surprise me about what she - or any of them 'thought' at one time or another. Rational thinking & drug abuse are not friends.


I keep getting the wannabe news shows confused but that was on the one that was done after the arrest -- the same guy that had Misty and she played the phone tapes. Apparently Donna tried to sell them to him.

[Justice4all]

By the time any of us ever heard about Haleigh or the people in her young life, whatever happened to her was a done deal.

I wouldn't tell people what to pray for, but praying for something that would necessitate turning back the clock & unringing bells that have already been rung doesn't strike me as being very productive or realistic.

I have prayed that LE will find the answers, whatever those answers may be. I don't work on praying for things that could involve going back in time & changing things that have already taken place.

But that's just me, YMMV.

TYVM for giving me permission to pray for whatever I want to pray for.

[Justice4all]

BUMP...what do you mean Rons out on bail too????

Wasn't he arrested a few months ago and bailed out?

[Tracian]

BUMP...what do you mean Rons out on bail too????



Ron was on bond for the fight with Tommy.

[CFMom]

Wasn't he arrested a few months ago and bailed out?

I thought she meant now..I sure hope hes not out.

[CFMom]

Ron was on bond for the fight with Tommy.

Ohhhhhh...*slow down heart* ty

[Tracian]

They didn't lower Tommy's bond, they revoked it on account of him already being out on bond for the gun theft charges.

Apparently it's a condition of bond that you have to stay out of trouble.

Imagine that.



I wonder why they didn't revoke it when he got arrested the last time.

[jammies]

Preeeeeeeeecisely!

I honestly believe if folks in & around the Ronald Cummings circle of influence knew with assurance that he was locked up & was going to STAY locked up for a long time, a whole lot of info would come out from people who just are NOT willing to put themselves into a position of being in Ron's crosshairs.

They don't want to meet up with Ron's bridge messages, they don't want to receive headless rat messages, all that stuff.

JMO

ITA I PRAY the dam will break and the TRUTH will flow. :thumbup:

[datacop]

Well, I agree, it is funny! I was just wondering how this person found out that Misty is suffering. :) I appreciate the info they gathered!

I don't know who all the people were on the radio show either. They giggle a lot too. :laugh:


Oh, I hope the one from last summer isn't back. Can't remember the name but she was from Oregon/Washington.

[Mimi428]

TYVM for giving me permission to pray for whatever I want to pray for.

Did you miss the part where I specifically posted that I DO NOT tell people what to pray for?

[Mel]

TJ said "folks say" Misty isn't doing well in jail....he didn't give a name as to who said it

[Justice4all]

Did you miss the part where I specifically posted that I DO NOT tell people what to pray for?

and I said thank you

[tia marie]

Did I hear correctly> Misty told Donna Ron like to shoot oxy in his feet? :scared:

[Mel]

Levi, in talking about TN says "does this woman EVER hold her son responsible for anything?"

[Mel]

Did I hear correctly> Misty told Donna Ron like to shoot oxy in his feet? :scared:

OMG...i haven't gotten to that part yet:scared: not sure why that would even surprise me though...

[VivaViva]

Did I hear correctly> Misty told Donna Ron like to shoot oxy in his feet? :scared:

Isn't he dreamy?

[Mimi428]

TJ said "folks say" Misty isn't doing well in jail....he didn't give a name as to who said it

Wellllllllll, the jail has to be manned by numerous personnel 24/7, so there is probably no telling how many people could have potentially been in & around the jail cells doing their work & talking to one another. So my guess is that somebody who works at the jail told somebody about what has been going on with Misty.

Heck, I have spoken to my former son-in-law who works in corrections about a person or two that has been in the jail in this county, so I can see how gossip might get around about any of 5 who are locked up right now.

JMO

[VivaViva]

Levi, in talking about TN says "does this woman EVER hold her son responsible for anything?"

No, and had they excersied tough love with Ron years ago- he could have become a better man, but here we are today- I think this is the longest time he has ever sat in jail, wonder how hes holding up? And if any of the fam goes to visit him or Misty, you can bet we will see those visits on Miss Nancy Show- cant wait-

[Texas48]

i think LE had their eyes on Misty & RC from the very beginning....they had to simply wait it out, since Misty wouldn't crack...the drug bust was sent from heaven to get them all locked up, where they can't talk to each other....jmo
So do I Mel...and I said along time ago that even with LE making statements that this one or that one were NOT suspects was bolony..LE can and will say things like that and all the while be watching each and everyone of the players......NO ONE is above suspicion..My thoughts..and I guess time will tell.

[Mel]

Isn't he dreamy?

lmao :wub:

[Mel]

if you use your feet, you have run out of veins elsewhere on your body-

maybe all the drugs is why he passed a polygraph, if he did...can't remember

LE has said nothing about anyone passing a polygraph...just RC says he passed it...oh, & "with flying colors":laugh:

[VivaViva]

LE has said nothing about anyone passing a polygraph...just RC says he passed it...oh, & "with flying colors":laugh:

And the LE lied to Ron and told him Misty passed hers..... wonder why? Could it be there were trying to make him feel secure and in the know and let him feel comfy enough that he would screw up in the future.... and where is he now and why?

[Tracian]

if you use your feet, you have run out of veins elsewhere on your body-

maybe all the drugs is why he passed a polygraph, if he did...can't remember


LE has never released the results of the tests they gave. They only commented that Misty's results that Tim announced with his tests, did not surprise them.

[Mel]

And the LE lied to Ron and told him Misty passed hers..... wonder why? Could it be there were trying to make him feel secure and in the know and let him feel comfy enough that he would screw up in the future.... and where is he now and why?

many people said months ago, that LE was only trying to make Misty & RC THINK they were in the clear...like, give em a rope & they'll hang themselves....it's happening, imo:)

[tia marie]

And the LE lied to Ron and told him Misty passed hers..... wonder why? Could it be there were trying to make him feel secure and in the know and let him feel comfy enough that he would screw up in the future.... and where is he now and why?

Yup...just like LE wanted Ron to relax and say he was at work. Not to worry.

[Politigal]

What?

I've read on here a lot of people say they hope Crystal or Marie took Haleigh for her safety. I don't think that happen but I pray they did that because it would be Haleigh's alive.

I've said from day one I don't think Ron or Crystals involved with Haleigh being missing.

If you want to ignore me I totally understand though.


MOO


I think it was all Misty and maybe a relative of hers or a friend as an accomplice. I also don't believe Ron was involved. I do think he's made some bad choices along the way though.

[VivaViva]

many people said months ago, that LE was only trying to make Misty & RC THINK they were in the clear...like, give em a rope & they'll hang themselves....it's happening, imo:)

I said it and was almost crucified- Love how when some of us said, Ron looks like a drug user, totally chastised, how can you say that??? But its ok for some to say Donna looks like a druggie, isnt it funny the double standards? And really its not funny, its disgusting-

[Tracian]

I think it was all Misty and maybe a relative of hers or a friend as an accomplice. I also don't believe Ron was involved. I do think he's made some bad choices along the way though.


I agree.

If Misty and/or Tommy know anything, they are not going to offer information simply because the charges they face now are nothing compared to what may have happened to HaLeigh.

[Mel]

Donna B's a bad apple, imo....she probably started out w/good intentions of trying to help LE, then got involved w/the drugs herself....how do we know she wasn't a pill head from the get go, prior to hooking up with these folks?...Levi said Donna's personality changed over time, & continued to hang out w/Misty...

[Mel]

I said it and was almost crucified- Love how when some of us said, Ron looks like a drug user, totally chastised, how can you say that??? But its ok for some to say Donna looks like a druggie, isnt it funny the double standards? And really its not funny, its disgusting-

yep, yep....i knew RC was involved in some kind of way, from the start, with the 911 call....Levi apparently thought the same all along also...

[VivaViva]

Nothing is ever Ron's fault. Even when he's caught red handed.

No, he dont know what happened to his little girl, yet he tattoos the key to the missing child investigation, lol, and some still think he knows nothing, lol. Sad-

[Mel]

Nothing is ever Ron's fault. Even when he's caught red handed.

of course not:rolleyes:

[CC I See]

many people said months ago, that LE was only trying to make Misty & RC THINK they were in the clear...like, give em a rope & they'll hang themselves....it's happening, imo:)

You are right... and then along came Tim Miller with his tests and blew their comfort level and called attentions to the ROPE. Another reason he should have stayed OUT of this case.

[tia marie]

Reminder


http://www.blogtalkradio.com/levipage/2010/01/25/haleigh-cummings-investigation

[Politigal]

Nothing is ever Ron's fault. Even when he's caught red handed.

To my knowledge, no one has been charged in Haleigh's disappearance yet.

If you think you know more than the police - you should contact them....

[Mel]

Could explain that odd gait he has.

*shivers*.....that's hardcore to shoot up in the foot veins, eeeeeeek!

[VivaViva]

And he doesn't do drugs either. We just hate Ron.

Yep, we just follow this missing child case because we hate him!!!! We just need him to be guilty!! It is sad some think like that, when he is arrested for whatever happened to his daughter, and he will be, how mean and sick and nasty will really have been for having good intuition?

[Mel]

yep, we just follow this missing child case because we hate him!!!! We just need him to be guilty!! It is sad some think like that, when he is arrested for whatever happened to his daughter, and he will be, how mean and sick and nasty will really have been for having good intuition?

amen!......

[Tracian]

You know Tracian, I have always believed Misty will never talk.

EVER!

Nothing has changed my mind, but I would love to be wrong.


The only way she will, IMO, is if she trys to pin this on someone else, like when she mentioned that her brother's name has come up in regards to HaLeigh missing.

[Justice4all]

And he doesn't do drugs either. We just hate Ron.

Ron doesn't do drugs?

Who said that?

[VivaViva]

Maybe it's in your delivery?

:shrug:

Like I care?

[?noanswer]

The PC jail must be full or they are trying to keep a bunch of cells open because everyone brought in today has been released w/o posting bond. Wonder if they were all transferred somewhere else.

JMO

[HouseOfClark]

***

When LE used the dogs that night at the trailer and they went on their odd little trip round the neighborhood and ended at the tracks, does anyone know how long that "track" was? In other words, did the track go for 800 feet...a mile.......?

It's always bugged me the way the dogs went.

In conjunction with the current conversation, if Donna's tapes had anything of "value" as far as locating Haleigh's body, then why didn't someone buy them when they were up for sale? They probably contain a ton of "juicy tidbits", however, I don't see the location of the body being on those tapes.......color me "Haleigh would be home" if that were true.

Also, I must chuckle a bit about Misty saying Ron shot up in his feet. Now, it may very well be that Ron did shoot up in his feet, but how much can Misty be believed about anything?

I swear if Misty told me the sky was blue........you better bet the farm, I would double check it.

TIA for any info on the dog tracking.....

The thing about the dogs is puzzling, however, dogs can't put a time on when the scent was "put there". Know what I mean?

I think that's why the officer asked Misty if she ever took the children for a walk and she told them she would walk to her brother's house (address redacted from the police report). IIRC, the officer had just been out with the scent dog handler and the dogs led them practically around the block.

The dogs could have picked up Haleigh's scent from that day or the day before that or the day before that......

And all of this is just my opinion, you know.

[kOOkie1]

The only way she will, IMO, is if she trys to pin this on someone else, like when she mentioned that her brother's name has come up in regards to HaLeigh missing.

I agree.. I dont think she will be doing any talking..she has a lawyer and she knows better..I hope there will more arrests..the more in there that know anything or have heard anything will be the ones who start talking. I hope it is tough enough in there as time passes that Misty does do the right thing..same goes for Ronald. But again..I really dont see them saying a thing. I do think everyone in their inner circle knows something..sadly, Ive never understood how this has been pulled off..Misty was the last one to see Haleigh, imo, She would have been too messed up from the 3 days prior to have not needed help.
jmo-

[EMAA]

*shivers*.....that's hardcore to shoot up in the foot veins, eeeeeeek!

Usually it's between the toes. I've never heard of using other places on the feet, but that's just me. mo

[Themis]

The only way she will, IMO, is if she trys to pin this on someone else, like when she mentioned that her brother's name has come up in regards to HaLeigh missing.
Don't forget her cousin, Joe, who she described (paraphrasing) as pretty much a criminal.

I cannot help but think back over 11+ months and the hundreds of thousands of labor hours expended by every level of law enforcement agencies in Florida; the FBI; L.E. in other states, etc. All paid for with tax dollars.

Then there are those thousands of dedicated volunteers who gave freely of their time, their equipment -- vehicles, horses, and weary feet. People who donated lodging, tents, heaters, food, drink, and money.

I could go on and on but most posters can recite the litany of dedicated efforts by thousands of people without any more help from me.

And Misty has told so many lies and pointed her finger at others. So many lies by so many liars; it is enough to make one physically sick.

Haleigh needs to be found and put to rest with dignity.

[JMO * Themis]

[HouseOfClark]

Yes, I know what you mean.

I suppose that it could have been. I know in the Laci Peterson case, the dogs tracked her all the way to the Marina, even though she was in a vehicle. It has always been strange to me, that the dogs stopped at the RR tracks.

You don't know how long that "track" was, do you? I was just curious and had some thoughts bubbling around in my noggin.

I'm not sure how long the track was. I believe there's a pic of it marked out over at WS, but I couldn't tell you how to find it. It's been a while since I saw it.

IMO, if the dogs can't date the scent, then the length of the track really doesn't mean anything.

IIRC, there was a track that went straight behind the house to the water. (I'm just going by memory here though.)

JMO though.

[Tracian]

Didn't she point the finger at Cousin Joe, as well?

She did, as Themis also reminded me.

I guess her pointing at Tommy stands out the most, because IIRC shortly after that, Tommy was arrested and tells LE that he was at the house that night, and Misty was not.

[jammies]

Don't forget her cousin, Joe, who she described (paraphrasing) as pretty much a criminal.

I cannot help but think back over 11+ months and the hundreds of thousands of labor hours expended by every level of law enforcement agencies in Florida; the FBI; L.E. in other states, etc. All paid for with tax dollars.

Then there are those thousands of dedicated volunteers who gave freely of their time, their equipment -- vehicles, horses, and weary feet. People who donated lodging, tents, heaters, food, drink, and money.

I could go on and on but most posters can recite the litany of dedicated efforts by thousands of people without any more help from me.

And Misty has told so many lies and pointed her finger at others. So many lies by so many liars; it is enough to make one physically sick.

Haleigh needs to be found and put to rest with dignity.

[JMO * Themis]


Wonderful, heartfelt post, themis. It makes me sick too that total strangers care more about solving Haleigh's disappearance than some of her own family. :crying:

[Santa'sMom]

Florida is the winter home of the circus, isn't it?


:smile:

I don't know if they are still there but there use to be a carnival that wintered just a couple of miles from where Ronald lived when Haleigh disappeared.

[5boxersmom]

You might be right 5boxermom, but something about that "quickie" sting and arrest is whack.. to me anyway. :mellow:

MOO

Time will tell RR time will tell.

Wonder what Tommy would do if they hauled Lindsy in on some charge? Would he talk then?

jmo imo

[Texas48]

yes, it sounds right:seeya:

i just have a feeling Misty wouldn't have told DB toooooo much....i hope i'm wrong....course i must admit, from what i've heard, i don't think much of Donna B..
IDK Mel if I believe Misty confided in DB..just DK..

[tia marie]

FWIW

http://stephww.wordpress.com/

[Texas48]

I can't believe she's sitting in jail period.

What on earth could have possessed a grown woman with a family to hook up with a bunch of drug dealers/users?

Give up their whole life and lifestyle. And for what?
Drugs..?That would be my guess..

[Santa'sMom]

Oh my what if the tapes give a location of the body :sad::sad:

Then they need to throw Donna away with whoever was involved and throw away her key too.

[CanCan]

And he doesn't do drugs either. We just hate Ron.

:flamemad::flamemad: We're such HATERS!!

[HouseOfClark]

Yeah, I remember seeing the "pic", however, I don't know how one could accurately judge distance (unless, of course, there are reference points).

To the water, round the neighborhood, to the tracks and then there was that big construction dumpster...... (something like that, anyway)

It would make sense, though, if you can't date a scent, then how do they ever use dogs?

I am not trying to be obtuse, but if someone is missing from their home, surely they had been out of their home before they went missing, therefore; they would have several "trails" the dog could be scenting on, so how do they determine them to be reliable?

I think it depends on how the dog was trained, but what do I know? I have a Belgian Malinois that sleeps on the couch.

Dogs and scent trails are highly contested evidence in court. Unless the dog leads straight to a body. Otherwise, it can be argued about what the heck they were actually scenting.

[Mimi428]

Well... he could also be picturing all the years that lie ahead for him in prison.... and wondering what "Bubba" looks and acts like.

MOO

Oh, I definitely hope Tommy & all the rest of them are thinking about stuff like that.

Neither Tommy nor Misty are physically imposing people - & prison can be real bad for people who are not physically very tough.

Not to mention that prisons are full of people who commit property-types of crimes & who actually do have concerns about their family members on the outside - like their children. They don't take well to people who are involved with crimes against children. And even if Misty or Tommy (or Ron) goes to jail on drug charges only - the case has a high enough notoriety that each of them will be known.

But the good news would be that they could probably continue to do drugs while in the big house...

JMO

[CanCan]

Maybe it's in your delivery?

:shrug:

:confused: Maybe it's in your antennae?

jmo

[Diamond1]

Time will tell RR time will tell.

Wonder what Tommy would do if they hauled Lindsy in on some charge? Would he talk then?

jmo imo

LE hauled in the love of Ronald's life and he is not talking.

[tia marie]

***

When LE used the dogs that night at the trailer and they went on their odd little trip round the neighborhood and ended at the tracks, does anyone know how long that "track" was? In other words, did the track go for 800 feet...a mile.......?

It's always bugged me the way the dogs went.

In conjunction with the current conversation, if Donna's tapes had anything of "value" as far as locating Haleigh's body, then why didn't someone buy them when they were up for sale? They probably contain a ton of "juicy tidbits", however, I don't see the location of the body being on those tapes.......color me "Haleigh would be home" if that were true.

Also, I must chuckle a bit about Misty saying Ron shot up in his feet. Now, it may very well be that Ron did shoot up in his feet, but how much can Misty be believed about anything?

I swear if Misty told me the sky was blue........you better bet the farm, I would double check it.

TIA for any info on the dog tracking.....

This might help answer your dog tracking question.

http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=63252

Scroll down it gives the mileage .

[Tracian]

Which I swear, I have NEVER understood!

7 months after the fact, Tommy gets arrested and has a monster bond. He then tells LE, "Oh, btw, I was over at the MH on the night Haleigh went missing around 10 and no one was home."

He waited 7 months to put himself directly in the "missing time frame", just to get his bond lowered?

There is something just "off" there, IMO.


It does not make any sense. There is of course a possiblity that LE already spoke to Tommy and he gave this information, but kept it quiet until Misty started pointing at Tommy; but if it is as it seems, that he with held that information for that long, why?

If Tommy had something on Ron, in regards to HaLeigh, why didn't he spill that the night he had Ron arrested for the fight? He was not so scared of Ron to report him then, so why would he be fearful to give information about HaLeigh?

[Texas48]

Did I hear correctly> Misty told Donna Ron like to shoot oxy in his feet? :scared:
OMG..I saw that done on *Intervention* last week..Ouch..
According to the person doing the injecting....when all other viens have collasped they start in the feet....and some do it in the feet to begin with so the marks don't show on their arms.

[5boxersmom]

LE hauled in the love of Ronald's life and he is not talking.

That we know of.

Maybe Tommy cares more about keeping Lindsy out of it.

If Ron and Misty were involved it together or with Tommy wouldn't do much good to talk.

jmo

[jammies]

FWIW

http://stephww.wordpress.com/


TY, Tia :smile:

[kOOkie1]

Q.. So it was said Misty was at the most amount of the trafficking buys..Ron was at some as well. Now if this undercover agent ever went inside the homes where Misty, her Brother, Ronald etc. lived and actully purchased pills at the home..Could those Family member's be charged and jailed? (hope this makes sense)..Wouldnt it freak everyone out if they actully brought say GGS or TN? or more of the Croslins?? wonder if that would cause them to remember more.:scared:..Does anyone else think their will be more arrests?

[Texas48]

Yep, the old veins have most likely collapsed if someone shoots up in their feet.
( Google the show Intervention. Three weeks ago was about a meth head who shot up in her feet. Gave me the willies. puke )
LOL..we must watch the same shows Richell...Can't speak for you but I need to stop watching all the depressing shows and pick some with humor..between the boards..missing children..missing mothers..murders..and then all the TV shows...48 Hours..Intervention..there are too many to type..just makes ya sad..:sad:

[CanCan]

Which I swear, I have NEVER understood!

7 months after the fact, Tommy gets arrested and has a monster bond. He then tells LE, "Oh, btw, I was over at the MH on the night Haleigh went missing around 10 and no one was home."

He waited 7 months to put himself directly in the "missing time frame", just to get his bond lowered?

There is something just "off" there, IMO.

:bored: FWIW My take on this is that Misty was passed out cold when Tommy went to the trailer to check on her. I agree with Diamond and Shameonme when they say that Misty was supposed to have placed a fake "emergency call" to Ron at work, informing him that Haleigh had been abducted - only Misty missed making the call, cuz she was passed out. Thus, the flurry of calls from Ron.

jmo

[?noanswer]

Q.. So it was said Misty was at the most amount of the trafficking buys..Ron was at some as well. Now if this undercover agent ever went inside the homes where Misty, her Brother, Ronald etc. lived and actully purchased pills at the home..Could those Family member's be charged and jailed? (hope this makes sense)..Wouldnt it freak everyone out if they actully brought say GGS or TN? or more of the Croslins?? wonder if that would cause them to remember more.:scared:..Does anyone else think their will be more arrests?


I think most of the buys were done from behind a store. I don't have a link at hand so JMO.

[Mimi428]

Q.. So it was said Misty was at the most amount of the trafficking buys..Ron was at some as well. Now if this undercover agent ever went inside the homes where Misty, her Brother, Ronald etc. lived and actully purchased pills at the home..Could those Family member's be charged and jailed? (hope this makes sense)..Wouldnt it freak everyone out if they actully brought say GGS or TN? or more of the Croslins?? wonder if that would cause them to remember more.:scared:..Does anyone else think their will be more arrests?

I think more people will be arrested on drug charges. Whether any of them will have much to contribute to finding Haleigh, I got no clue.

As for the rest of the family members - Florida has some pretty strict drug forfeiture laws, if the little I have read is still accurate.

I would be shaking in my shoes, worried that my house &/or my vehicles & any other substantial property I owned were about to be grabbed up by LE under the drug forfeiture laws if I had Ron or Misty living with me.

JMO

[kOOkie1]

I think most of the buys were done from behind a store. I don't have a link at hand so JMO.

ohh really?? okay thanks!

[?noanswer]

I think more people will be arrested on drug charges. Whether any of them will have much to contribute to finding Haleigh, I got no clue.

As for the rest of the family members - Florida has some pretty strict drug forfeiture laws, if the little I have read is still accurate.

I would be shaking in my shoes, worried that my house &/or my vehicles & any other substantial property I owned were about to be grabbed up by LE under the drug forfeiture laws if I had Ron or Misty living with me.

JMO


Someone had to supply them with their mdse. IIUC the last transaction was MC and RC buying drugs from an undercover agent so they had to get their inventory somewhere. Guess he sold them back the ones they had sold to another uca! JMO

[Diamond1]

That we know of.

Maybe Tommy cares more about keeping Lindsy out of it.

If Ron and Misty were involved it together or with Tommy wouldn't do much good to talk.

jmo

If LE had probable cause to arrest her they would have already. LE cannot arrest her to force Tommy to talk.

I think if Tommy knew anything he would have told it already. He does not have any reason to protect Ronald.
mo

[?noanswer]

If any of the 5 knows anything, the only reason they are not talking is to protect someone - themselves or a loved one. JMO

[VivaViva]

If any of the 5 knows anything, the only reason they are not talking is to protect someone - themselves or a loved one. JMO

How do we know none of them are talking?

[tia marie]

Thanks for the link, Tia!

(I can't find the mileage on there, though. Perhaps I am looking in the wrong place?)

Second story says !/4 mile was searched by the cadaver dogs.


I think...

[Texas48]

How do we know none of them are talking?
My guess is that each one of the 5 is scared shi...ss of what the other is saying to LE..The NOT knowing will get the best of them...

[kOOkie1]

I had asked wayyy pages ago and I dont think anyone responded..and I just now remembered:tongueside:..soo What about Hank, Sr.? Was he arrested in what Nov.? charged with 300 Oxycodone and Hydrocodone pills from three different physicians in a drug investigation? Doctor Shopping??
Just wondering is he in jail or has he been released? hard to keep up sometimes ;)

[VivaViva]

My guess is that each one of the 5 is scared shi...ss of what the other is saying to LE..The NOT knowing will get the best of them...

Yeah, because this arrest was a shock, I can imagine- no times to get their stories straight- they are all more than likely withdrawling, the paranoia I am sure is fierce-

jmo

[Santa'sMom]

Which I swear, I have NEVER understood!

7 months after the fact, Tommy gets arrested and has a monster bond. He then tells LE, "Oh, btw, I was over at the MH on the night Haleigh went missing around 10 and no one was home."

He waited 7 months to put himself directly in the "missing time frame", just to get his bond lowered?

There is something just "off" there, IMO.

Tommy was arrested right after the big fight between him and Ronald, after which Misty threw him under the bus. He may have kept quiet before to protect his baby sister but after she turned on him he decided he wasn't going to cover for her anymore. That has always been my take on it anyway. As far as him putting himself in the missing time frame, I don't see Tommy as being exceptionally bright but I do see him as being intelligent enough to know not to put himself at the scene of a crime if he was involved.

[?noanswer]

Tommy has the lowest bond and is only facing 3 yrs. I don't think LE is as interested in Tommy as they are in the others. I think they got pretty much all they're going to get from him but of course, I could be wrong.


Tommy's bond has been revoked. By this last caper he forfeited the bond on two other charges at PC jail and he has small bonds on those, but wouldn't do anygood to post the bond on those cause he could not get bonded for the 100,000 drug charge. JMO

[kOOkie1]

Steph Watts is on now, fwiw.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/watts-up-with-this/2010/01/25/watts-up-with-this

Thanks Grace...

[?noanswer]

I had asked wayyy pages ago and I dont think anyone responded..and I just now remembered:tongueside:..soo What about Hank, Sr.? Was he arrested in what Nov.? charged with 300 Oxycodone and Hydrocodone pills from three different physicians in a drug investigation? Doctor Shopping??
Just wondering is he in jail or has he been released? hard to keep up sometimes ;)


He bonded out. JMO

[5boxersmom]

If LE had probable cause to arrest her they would have already. LE cannot arrest her to force Tommy to talk.

I think if Tommy knew anything he would have told it already. He does not have any reason to protect Ronald.
mo

I know they can not arrest her to force Tommy to talk, but you never know what they might find on her.

Tommy might not be protecting Ron, he may be protecting himself and/or Misty.

jmo

[HouseOfClark]

Your dog told me to tell you, "That's not your couch, anymore."

That would make a great deal of sense. Also, I know that there are dogs only trained to scent cadavers. I am sure, that a great deal, depends on the dog, as well. Some dogs, I am sure, are much better at what they do, than others.

I just always thought it was strange how that dog ran around (almost in circles) throughout the neighborhood. As if, someone didn't know quite what to do with her body or where to go..... Just always bugged me, that's all.

It's been my experience with walking with my own children, that rarely do they stay on a "course" or walk in a straight direction. Mine were usually going into neighbors' yards or to the edge of the woods to pick flowers or a baseball or a piece of paper or something like that.

So, the fact that the dogs didn't go in a straight line didn't surprise me.

Was this only one dog? Or were multiple dogs brought in?

Seems like I remember from the police report that a Chris somebody came in and he was a dog handler. He's the one that Nelson went tracking with. I don't recall how many dogs he had with him though.

(The thing about the CA case is that two handlers with two different dogs from two different counties came in and they both scented the same thing. Those were cadaver dogs, I believe. I don't think they brought cadaver dogs in on Haleigh's case until much later and I'm not entirely sure their "finds" were court-worthy.)

JMO again.

(And my dog sends her thanks for letting me know where I stand - and yes I do stand now!)

[VivaViva]

On Steph Watts-

Tim Miller said after Oct 30 he had no contact with Donna, so he didnt buy xmas gifts for Mistys nieces- 2 law firms are looking in to Nancys claims, via Marlena Schivos claims-

[kOOkie1]

He bonded out. JMO

Thanks! Woww What a mess!

[tia marie]

FWIW

This Jacque Hollander that is on Watts tonight and supposidly a friend of Donna Brock is someone some of us have been aghast about.

Check it out for yourself.

http://www.jacquehollander.com/

[VivaViva]

Mist told Tim Miller her biggest fear is being in jail-

[VivaViva]

Tommy has not bonded out, its not an option for him-

[Mimi428]

Tommy? He just have his bond revoked. He's still in jail on the drug charge.

I believe the answer was referring to Hank SENIOR, Misty & Tommy's father. The one who was arrested back around October or November for doctor shopping.

[Mel]

Mist told Tim Miller her biggest fear is being in jail-

are you listening to Steph Watts' interview?????...you'll keep us updated on what's said, right???...i stepped away, but am back now...:)

[?noanswer]

Tommy? He just have his bond revoked. He's still in jail on the drug charge.


We are talking about Hank, SR, not Hank, JR. JMO

[Mimi428]

Mist told Tim Miller her biggest fear is being in jail-

Gads, I hate to sound so downright mean...but....GOOD!

I hope she is seeing bugs crawling up the wall, snakes on the floor, feels itchy things in her hair, can't stand the food, can't tolerate the noise & is crying her little eyes out.

(thanks, I feel better now)

[VivaViva]

Donna was playing reporter, and was coaching Misty and another young gal- they were talking about HaLeigh and Misty Cummings laughed-

[5boxersmom]

Talking about tapes now.

Donna Brock was playing the reporter. The girls were answering questions about that night. Said the one girl was Mistiys friend. SW thinks the friend may have been Hope Sykes. I think it may have been Nay Nay.

Said Misty laughed about HaLeigh.

[VivaViva]

Police asked Donna to destroy the tapes, she had sex tapes on Tim Miller, thats what Donna says, and Donna claims her husband is a secret service agent-