1/21 Pt. I

[Rucky*Ron]

Looks like we will be at 1,000 posts on the old thread soon, so here is one when we're ready.

Lots to discuss!

[Justice4all]

Thank you for the new thread.

[Justice4all]

R*R...Why do you think Ron's on a HOLD status?

[Justice4all]

You're probably not going to like my answer, but I think he may be in on this bust... as an informant... and he is on a protective hold

At least I hope so Justice.

I just can't see, as hard as he tried to keep Misty away from the drug crowd, that he is involved in doing drugs.
Since he got custody of the kids he seemed to have got his life mostly straight.

I'm probably wrong though and it breaks my heart to think of those kids if true.

Maybe I'm just a Ronette. :shrug:

MOO
I would hope that's the case but I doubt it :sad:

Okay i'm heading to bed....

I hope tomorrow we find out the truth about haleigh.

[Santa'sMom]

R*R, I'm not trying to be snarky here so please don't take it that way. What are you talking about when you say "as hard as he tried to keep Misty away from the drug crowd"? I don't remember hearing about him doing that, but I have missed a few things (who hasn't with this case?).

I will be very surprised to hear that he was working as an informant. He sold drugs to undercover cops and he bought a large quantity of them from one tonight. If he was there to help facilitate the deal between the cop and Misty, a decent lawyer could say Misty was only there to appease Ronald and get it tossed in a heartbeat. He's been charged with keeping a drug vehicle in the past and pled out. Just because he hasn't been caught since then doesn't necessarily mean he hasn't continued to deal, it could just mean that he was either smart enough, or lucky enough, to not get caught. I don't think the statement put out by the Sheriff's Dept would have been written to include Ronald as strongly as it did if he had merely been an informant. Cops do strange things sometimes so I could be wrong. Perhaps we'll find out more tomorrow, or should I say today? I doubt that Flagler would charge him with anything if they are simply holding him for St. Johns. I always felt that he was a bit too paranoid to not be up to something. Remember how he changed the locks on the doors and always checked to make sure they were locked before he left for work? And then his stating right off the bat that Haleigh was "stolen" and asking Misty how she could let her got stolen? When we lived out that way we never locked our doors (granted, I had 7 dogs, most of which were over 50#, but still, there wasn't a lot of violence against strangers in that area, domestic violence-lots of it, drunken brawls-of course, but if you had to worry about anything it was more having your stuff stolen from you but even that didn't seem to happen that often). Oh well. I hope we have answers to everything soon. And that justice finally comes for Haleigh, for what happened to her.

[oxfordfox2]

The whole nest of vipers have been arrested, with Misty getting the highest bond. Surely somebody is bound to crack now, to stay out of jail or reduce their time. Thank God. About time.
http://refugeesunleashed.net/post-959316.html

[Themis]

Here is a link to the counties commonly identified as North East Florida.

All the counties currently under discussion, St. Johns, Putnam, and Flager, and their relationship to one another are clearly marked.

Also listed are cities within each county.

http://www.floridacountiesmap.com/northeast.shtml

I thought the above map would be helpful considering the current discussion, the arrests of 5 connected people on Wednesday night on similar drug charges, and where those arrested are being housed.

[JMO * Themis]

[Themis]

Jacksonville News article as updated on Thursday, 1-21-10 at 6 A.M.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-01-20/story/haleigh_cummings_father_and_former_stepmom_arreste d_on_drug_charges

Included are the names of 5 interconnected people arrested on similar drug charges, their bail amounts, and at which jail they are being held (per press release) at this time.

[JMO * Themis]

[Lynn Gweeny]

Emergency custody hearing expected today in Putnam County (more at links below)

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleighs-father-and-former-step-mother-arrested/oRqP3BJFo0WLV2ivCYA32g.cspx

VIDEO from FOX 35:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/012110-haleigh-cummings-family

[Lynn Gweeny]

From Steph Watts:

Steph says he has exclusive information about Donna Brock, her relationship to Misty Cummings and actually witnessed Brock supply Misty Cummings, a minor, with both prescription and illegal drugs while the two were on a recent trip to NY. Stay tuned for more details.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/breaking-misty-croslin-ronald-cummings-and-donna-brock-arrest-for-drug-trafficking/

[Lynn Gweeny]

Misty Croslin is scheduled to make her first appearance in front of a judge to hear the charges against her Thursday morning in St. John's County.

http://www.wftv.com/news/22299764/detail.html

[tia marie]

Hmm, I wonder if the transfer of Jerome out of St. John's on Monday back to Putnam was due to what was about to go down.

[HouseOfClark]

Hmm, I wonder if the transfer of Jerome out of St. John's on Monday back to Putnam was due to what was about to go down.

Maybe, maybe not.

Could just be a big ol' coinkydink.

Do you remember what he was charged with or when he was arrested?

JMO

[HouseOfClark]

From Steph Watts:

Steph says he has exclusive information about Donna Brock, her relationship to Misty Cummings and actually witnessed Brock supply Misty Cummings, a minor, with both prescription and illegal drugs while the two were on a recent trip to NY. Stay tuned for more details.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/breaking-misty-croslin-ronald-cummings-and-donna-brock-arrest-for-drug-trafficking/

He witnessed this, but kept it under his hat for this long?

[datacop]

He witnessed this, but kept it under his hat for this long?

Oh, we're going to have a bunch of exclusives, I knew from the low level news. That wanna be news show was already putting in his 2 cents last night.

The press from LE is what I'm going by.

[Januarybaby]

He witnessed this, but kept it under his hat for this long?

One of the articles I read said that there was a tip that started the drug investigation, maybe it was his ( kept quiet) tip that started the investigation.

[Themis]

He witnessed this, but kept it under his hat for this long?
Perhaps he did. Perhaps he has been in contact with law enforcement (LE) who asked him to remain silent until enough evidence could be gathered to effect an arrest.

If he was not a witness as he is now claiming to be, LE might want to speak with him personally. [JMO * Themis]

[HouseOfClark]

You're probably not going to like my answer, but I think he may be in on this bust... as an informant... and he is on a protective hold

At least I hope so Justice.

I just can't see, as hard as he tried to keep Misty away from the drug crowd, that he is involved in doing drugs.
Since he got custody of the kids he seemed to have got his life mostly straight.

I'm probably wrong though and it breaks my heart to think of those kids if true.

Maybe I'm just a Ronette. :shrug:

MOO

I don't think so. An informant wouldn't turn around and try to replenish his stock, from an undercover agent no less.

That's what Ron and Misty did.

I'm trying to find a link to the PCSO press release. It's written out over at WS, but it clearly outlines what went down.

JMO

[HouseOfClark]

One of the articles I read said that there was a tip that started the drug investigation, maybe it was his ( kept quiet) tip that did it.

Could be.

But how would a tip from Steph Watts who only witnessed Donna Brock giving Misty prescription pills result in the arrest of 5 people and drug trafficking charges?

Maybe I need more coffee! Yeah, that's the ticket!

:laugh:

[Lynn Gweeny]

I don't think so. An informant wouldn't turn around and try to replenish his stock, from an undercover agent no less.

That's what Ron and Misty did.

I'm trying to find a link to the PCSO press release. It's written out over at WS, but it clearly outlines what went down.

JMO

Here ya go, HOC:

http://www.pcso.us/2010-1-20-a

[Januarybaby]

Wonder what TN is thinking today. She protected both Ron and Misty. I feel bad for her having to learn the truth about her son and ex daughter in law this way.

[HouseOfClark]

Here ya go, HOC:

http://www.pcso.us/2010-1-20-a

Thank you!

[Elle]

Emergency custody hearing expected today in Putnam County (more at links below)

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleighs-father-and-former-step-mother-arrested/oRqP3BJFo0WLV2ivCYA32g.cspx

VIDEO from FOX 35:

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/012110-haleigh-cummings-family


Prayers for Jr. and that the outcome be truly in his best interest. While I do not doubt for one second that he is loved, that in itself is not enough, he needs stability, he needs safety and he needs some semblence of normalcy. I have no idea what should happen, where he should be, only that his world needs to stop being torn apart.

I also pray for Theresa and Annette as I fear that a large portion of what is left of their world is about to shatter.

I am very angry and deeply saddened by the choices Ron has made. His actions are tearing this family apart.

God, where is Haleigh?

[HouseOfClark]

Hey! Where were you when LE cued the floodgates?

;)

"I wuz asleep?"

I had no idea yesterday the floodgates were about to burst.

[just4justice]

Wonder what TN is thinking today. She protected both Ron and Misty. I feel bad for her having to learn the truth about her son and ex daughter in law this way.

I'm sure she feels hoodwinked. As a parent, I would also have a hard time believing that my child could do such things. However, in reality most of us wouldn't allow ourselves to live this deeply in denial. Painful to admit? Yes. Necessary?? Absolutely.
My knee jerk reaction to this last night was that Ron was an informant. Not so now. He is in this up to his neck and then some. What a b#@@%$d. I hope they hang them all. Sadly, the real loser in this whole mess is Junior and regardless of where they put him it won't be the best in the long run. My heart is aching!!!

[Motomom]

Prayers for Jr. and that the outcome be truly in his best interest. While I do not doubt for one second that he is loved, that in itself is not enough, he needs stability, he needs safety and he needs some semblence of normalcy. I have no idea what should happen, where he should be, only that his world needs to stop being torn apart.

I also pray for Theresa and Annette as I fear that a large portion of what is left of their world is about to shatter.

I am very angry and deeply saddened by the choices Ron has made. His actions are tearing this family apart.

God, where is Haleigh?

I second your thoughts Elle. Junior needs to be removed at this point, well I suppose it won't matter much cause Ron and Misty aren't getting out anytime soon IMO. His best bet would be a GOOD foster family IMO..Heck any of us would probably be better than the family choices there are. Sorry, Crystal is no better when it comes to drugs IMO and if junior isn't removed from the circle, he will only fall into it at some point. It's very hard to break that cycle. Poor thing.. just terrible for him.

I too am saddened by this news.

Good morning everyone..

[Texas48]

He witnessed this, but kept it under his hat for this long?
I was sitting here reading and thinking same thing HOC..all I can say is WTH?

[datacop]

I second your thoughts Elle. Junior needs to be removed at this point, well I suppose it won't matter much cause Ron and Misty aren't getting out anytime soon IMO. His best bet would be a GOOD foster family IMO..Heck any of us would probably be better than the family choices there are. Sorry, Crystal is no better when it comes to drugs IMO and if junior isn't removed from the circle, he will only fall into it at some point. It's very hard to break that cycle. Poor thing.. just terrible for him.

I too am saddened by this news.

Good morning everyone..

I can't put a pipe in a car on the other side of the property in the same category as what went down last night.

[Texas48]

You're probably not going to like my answer, but I think he may be in on this bust... as an informant... and he is on a protective hold

At least I hope so Justice.

I just can't see, as hard as he tried to keep Misty away from the drug crowd, that he is involved in doing drugs.
Since he got custody of the kids he seemed to have got his life mostly straight.

I'm probably wrong though and it breaks my heart to think of those kids if true.

Maybe I'm just a Ronette. :shrug:

MOO
As bad as all this is RR..or should I say Bad and Sad at the same time..IMO Ron was not working undercover..LE had their own investigators undercover..they didn't need Ron or anyone else involved in this mess...as I said its just my feelings..:sad: I can't get little Jr. off my mind..what in the world is this child going to go through? whats going through his little mind when they try and explain where his daddy is at?

[Texas48]

Oh, we're going to have a bunch of exclusives, I knew from the low level news. That wanna be news show was already putting in his 2 cents last night.

The press from LE is what I'm going by.BBM
I think I'll do the same..

[witchywoman]

Hi everybody..

i just heard the news about the multiple arrest..

wowsa..Im hoping some one sings like a bird, in hopes that haleigh will be found..

ot, gotta run some errands be back l8r

thank u everyone for the links for keeping me in the know

[just4justice]

I don't necessarily believe these arrests will immediately culminate in finding what happened to Haleigh. Perhaps we will at least find out where Misty was that fateful night and what/who she was with. I still think she was away from the home which provided an opportunity for the RSO (Sapp) to grab Haleigh. I believe the perp was seeking revenge against Ron and/or Misty for a drug deal gone bad. I thought this well before LG turned me onto FA and after reading everything they have projected I am absolutely convinced. They have also projected the beginning of the revelation would be on or about 1/10. It certainly looks like they were spot on and the window of opportunity (not a small window) has begun. I would guess PSCO may think the same way as bail has not yet been set for Sapp. This is all MOO. I'm certain a few will agree and a great many will disagree.

[Texas48]

Prayers for Jr. and that the outcome be truly in his best interest. While I do not doubt for one second that he is loved, that in itself is not enough, he needs stability, he needs safety and he needs some semblence of normalcy. I have no idea what should happen, where he should be, only that his world needs to stop being torn apart.

I also pray for Theresa and Annette as I fear that a large portion of what is left of their world is about to shatter.

I am very angry and deeply saddened by the choices Ron has made. His actions are tearing this family apart.

God, where is Haleigh?
Excellent post Elle..well thought out imo

[HouseOfClark]

So if Misty or Tommy, or any of the rest of the 5, cop to something minor involving Haleigh as long as she or her remains are located, in exchange for immunity or dropping the drug charges, is that going to sit well with anyone here?

[VivaViva]

So if Misty or Tommy, or any of the rest of the 5, cop to something minor involving Haleigh as long as she or her remains are located, in exchange for immunity or dropping the drug charges, is that going to sit well with anyone here?

Yes, it sits fine with me-

[tia marie]

According to AH, (ahem)


Without missing a beat, sources tell me detectives have already started grilling Misty about the 5 year old girl she was babysitting last Feb. 10 when she says she woke up in her then boyfriend, Ronald Cummings’ trailer, to find Haleigh missing. She has denied knowing what happened to her, as well as any involvement in her disappearance, despite flunking a lie detector and voice stress analysis.

[Texas48]

I second your thoughts Elle. Junior needs to be removed at this point, well I suppose it won't matter much cause Ron and Misty aren't getting out anytime soon IMO. His best bet would be a GOOD foster family IMO..Heck any of us would probably be better than the family choices there are. Sorry, Crystal is no better when it comes to drugs IMO and if junior isn't removed from the circle, he will only fall into it at some point. It's very hard to break that cycle. Poor thing.. just terrible for him.

I too am saddened by this news.

Good morning everyone..
Morning Mom..Saw there was alot of activity till the wee hours of this morning here on the board..I just couldn't hang with you guys any later than I did..Elle had a very good post...my thoughts are with Jr. right now..and the rest of the bunch can take care of themselves..I don't think they are going anywhere fast..who knows? Bond was high and not sure where they will be getting it from..time will tell.

[tia marie]

Yes, it sits fine with me-

VivaViva!!

Kudos to you, you were so on the money!!

[Texas48]

Hey! Where were you when LE cued the floodgates?

;)
Thats funny BassMan..When it all broke last night I was thinking of so many *die-hards* that were misisng..I'm sure everyone will be here today..

[Januarybaby]

So if Misty or Tommy, or any of the rest of the 5, cop to something minor involving Haleigh as long as she or her remains are located, in exchange for immunity or dropping the drug charges, is that going to sit well with anyone here?

I dont really care what they do with Tommy or Hope but for Misty, Ron, and Donna, I think they should get whats coming to them....However if they can bring light into what happened to Haleigh, I think I could handle lesser charges, but no immunity or dropping them all together. If charges can be brought from what happened to Haleigh, then I think I can overlook the drug charges.

[Lynn Gweeny]

VIDEO: Drug Trafficking Arrests
- 02:13 -- 1/21/2010 -

Matt Safer reporting - Nearly one year after her disappearance, two of the last people to see Haleigh Cummings are behind bars this morning on unrelated charges. Investigators arrested her father, former step-mother and three others late Wednesday night on drug trafficking charges

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=35903@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5

[Texas48]

No doubt. Of course, everyone has an angle, don't they?

Sadly, I only hear 4 words coming out of Misty's mouth.......

"I want a lawyer".
For sure she can't say..I'm only 17..those days are over.

[tia marie]

Re Donna Brock according to AH

Brock was also arrested and charged with trafficking, perhaps the biggest surprise of the bunch–a mother and housewife from North Carolina who also has an apartment in Orlando. She’s behind bars in St. John’s County Jail, with Misty and Tommy, on a quarter million dollar bond.

It was Brock who was driving with Misty during a highly publicized road rage incident; she’s told me she was keeping police apprised of any road trip they took, and filling them in with anything she learned from Misty she thought might help with the missing child investigation.

In fact, we’d nicknamed her “Undercover Mama,” for giving Misty a shoulder to cry on, buying her cigarettes and taking her on shopping sprees to Orlando and beyond. As it turns out, she apparently wasn’t the only one undercover.

In one of our many interviews, Broch told me she’d surprised Misty’s nieces and nephews in Satsuma with Christmas presents; they were close; the question now is apparently how close.

I’d asked her a about a rumor she’d smoked pot with Misty and she denied it, as well as witnessing or participating in any other drug use, and know she’s met several times with officers working on the Cummings case.

[VivaViva]

Re Donna Brock according to AH

Brock was also arrested and charged with trafficking, perhaps the biggest surprise of the bunch–a mother and housewife from North Carolina who also has an apartment in Orlando. She’s behind bars in St. John’s County Jail, with Misty and Tommy, on a quarter million dollar bond.

It was Brock who was driving with Misty during a highly publicized road rage incident; she’s told me she was keeping police apprised of any road trip they took, and filling them in with anything she learned from Misty she thought might help with the missing child investigation.

In fact, we’d nicknamed her “Undercover Mama,” for giving Misty a shoulder to cry on, buying her cigarettes and taking her on shopping sprees to Orlando and beyond. As it turns out, she apparently wasn’t the only one undercover.

In one of our many interviews, Broch told me she’d surprised Misty’s nieces and nephews in Satsuma with Christmas presents; they were close; the question now is apparently how close.

I’d asked her a about a rumor she’d smoked pot with Misty and she denied it, as well as witnessing or participating in any other drug use, and know she’s met several times with officers working on the Cummings case.

I wonder how Tim Miller is taking this news about Donna?

[Motomom]

I can't put a pipe in a car on the other side of the property in the same category as what went down last night.

I wasn't really referring to the pipe though... Sorry IMO one is no better then the other and I only need my eyes to see that. Junior needs to be where there are NO drugs period. It's to the point where it's not about sides data..

[Texas48]

So if Misty or Tommy, or any of the rest of the 5, cop to something minor involving Haleigh as long as she or her remains are located, in exchange for immunity or dropping the drug charges, is that going to sit well with anyone here?
Ya know at this point HOC it would be OK by me..This baby girl deserves to be found and brought home..imo

[HouseOfClark]

Yes, it sits fine with me-

I'm kind of conflicted about it.

At this point, anything they say will more than likely be a lie, which at this late date can't be proven because I'm not sure there is any evidence either way.

On the one hand, Haleigh deserves to be found and some semblance of 'closure' needs to be afforded her family.

On the other hand, I don't want anyone to get off scott free, or have minimal jail time for something minor like negligence or failure to render aid or something like that.

JMO though.

[FrankieBones1]

Hey! Where were you when LE cued the floodgates?

;)Good to see you, Bass.
I was being a law abiding-tax paying, sleeping citizen. This latest news is crazy! What will happen to Ronald Junior now? How could Ron and Misty not know they were under surveillance all this time?

[VivaViva]

I wasn't really referring to the pipe though... Sorry IMO one is no better then the other and I only need my eyes to see that. Junior needs to be where there are NO drugs period. It's to the point where it's not about sides data..

Yeah, but drugs are rampant in that area- it doesn't matter about Crystals moral character, she has no record and thats all the Judge is going to care about- Ron had custody of HaLeigh and he lost her- he also was just busted buying drugs last night, there is nothing Crystal has ever done that tops that- if anything Crystal has been too honest and Ron has not, he told Geraldo he never did drugs, were around drugs, no matter his arrests in the past, and look what happened last night- Right now this needs to be about recovering HaLeigh- right now, Crystal truly is the better parent, sadly-

[Motomom]

So if Misty or Tommy, or any of the rest of the 5, cop to something minor involving Haleigh as long as she or her remains are located, in exchange for immunity or dropping the drug charges, is that going to sit well with anyone here?

HOC I doubt any would get full immunity but these drug charges could go away and it wouldn't bother me.. $3900 isn't alot in drugs.. I wouldn't consider that a big time drug trafficker but that's JMO.. If they could get information about Haleigh.. I could care less about these charges. But if they don't tell.. keep em locked up and now I think they have the option..

[VivaViva]

I'm kind of conflicted about it.

At this point, anything they say will more than likely be a lie, which at this late date can't be proven because I'm not sure there is any evidence either way.

On the one hand, Haleigh deserves to be found and some semblance of 'closure' needs to be afforded her family.

On the other hand, I don't want anyone to get off scott free, or have minimal jail time for something minor like negligence or failure to render aid or something like that.

JMO though.


Honestly, I think whatever happened to Haleigh was an accident and they panicked- I would totally be ok with leniency, I just want her body recovered and put in a place where everyone can mourn her-

[FrankieBones1]

From Steph Watts:

Steph says he has exclusive information about Donna Brock, her relationship to Misty Cummings and actually witnessed Brock supply Misty Cummings, a minor, with both prescription and illegal drugs while the two were on a recent trip to NY. Stay tuned for more details.

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/breaking-misty-croslin-ronald-cummings-and-donna-brock-arrest-for-drug-trafficking/
Hi, Lynn. I wonder how recent that NY trip was.

[Januarybaby]

I wonder how Tim Miller is taking this news about Donna?

I was just thinking the same thing. This really gives Equuisearch a bad name along with TIm Millers drinking problem and with him admitting he still has a 6 pack every night and goes somewhere and cries. It does not look good on his part for Equuisearch. How many people will want him looking for their child now.

Its so sad.

[Texas48]

VIDEO: Drug Trafficking Arrests
- 02:13 -- 1/21/2010 -

Matt Safer reporting - Nearly one year after her disappearance, two of the last people to see Haleigh Cummings are behind bars this morning on unrelated charges. Investigators arrested her father, former step-mother and three others late Wednesday night on drug trafficking charges

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=35903@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5
Very interesting Lynn..and a big Ty for the links you have provided..and to everyone else..
I wonder if Crystal will attend the emergency custody hearing for Jr..?

[Elle]

So if Misty or Tommy, or any of the rest of the 5, cop to something minor involving Haleigh as long as she or her remains are located, in exchange for immunity or dropping the drug charges, is that going to sit well with anyone here?

While I have to think on this more, my initial reaction is that I have a very hard time with anyone involved not being held fully accountable for his/her/their part. In general I have a hard time with immunity and pleas. I guess it would depend on the information given and the extent of the involvement.

Yes, Haleigh needs to be found, but I also feel that those responsible should recieve nothing short of the strongest arm of the law.

imoo

[FrankieBones1]

Ya know at this point HOC it would be OK by me..This baby girl deserves to be found and brought home..imo
Same here, TexSis.

[Texas48]

I wasn't really referring to the pipe though... Sorry IMO one is no better then the other and I only need my eyes to see that. Junior needs to be where there are NO drugs period. It's to the point where it's not about sides data..BBM
I agree Mom..this little boy needs a stable home and he needs it now.

[?noanswer]

Good to see you, Bass.
I was being a law abiding-tax paying, sleeping citizen. This latest news is crazy! What will happen to Ronald Junior now? How could Ron and Misty not know they were under surveillance all this time?


BBM

Guess when someone is on drugs, their brains don't function that well. They said the street value of the drugs was a little over $3,000. and that undercover LE sold them to them. Does street value mean the amount they recieved from the sales or is that what they paid to undercover for them?

Wonder if papa Croslin put a bug in LE's ear when he was arrested for his Dr. shopping.

JMO

[mrsmcgoo]

I haven't been keeping a real close eye on this case...but I thought Misty and Ron were done? So they are together now selling drugs??? And I thought Misty and her brother had stay away or restraining orders?

Now hopefully this bunch can't make bail, hopefully they get to sit it out and withdraw from the drugs. Not sure if, with these guys, this will help their memories. One can hope I guess.

Another thing....maximum sentences would be nice for them ALL.

Poor little Haleigh:crying:

JMO

[VivaViva]

http://www.myfcso.us/fcso-data.cfm?BookingNumber=2010-00000151

Ok, isnt hydrocodone vicodin?

[tia marie]

Yeah, but drugs are rampant in that area- it doesn't matter about Crystals moral character, she has no record and thats all the Judge is going to care about- Ron had custody of HaLeigh and he lost her- he also was just busted buying drugs last night, there is nothing Crystal has ever done that tops that- if anything Crystal has been too honest and Ron has not, he told Geraldo he never did drugs, were around drugs, no matter his arrests in the past, and look what happened last night- Right now this needs to be about recovering HaLeigh- right now, Crystal truly is the better parent, sadly-

Isn't it interesting that Teresa is suggusting Gram Sykes get custody of Junior, and she is not asking for herself?

[?noanswer]

Isn't it interesting that Teresa is suggusting Gram Sykes get custody of Junior, and she is not asking for herself?


Probably thought GGM would have a better chance since that is where JR has been and it would give him a little stability (if possible). Also TN works and would not be able to stay with him all the time. JMO

[VivaViva]

Isn't it interesting that Teresa is suggusting Gram Sykes get custody of Junior, and she is not asking for herself?

What Teresa wants does not matter at this point- look at the son she raised-

[Texas48]

Isn't it interesting that Teresa is suggusting Gram Sykes get custody of Junior, and she is not asking for herself?
It may be she(TN) feels that Jr. has been w/GGS all this time and really doesn't want to up-root him again right now..Maybe she is thinking of Jr. and not herself..

[?noanswer]

Well it shows RC and MC and HC back at PSCO and released again. Still no bond posted, so guess they must have come back long enough to appear before a Judge or whatever the next step was.

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx


CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES 10/29/1983MW 10-00276 (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758544&IMG=49930)1/21/2010 8:52:58 AM1/21/2010 9:01:44 AM
CUMMINGS MISTY 12/09/1991FW 10-00278 (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758546&IMG=60244)1/21/2010 8:52:54 AM1/21/2010 8:59:11
CROSLIN HANK THOMAS 8/02/1986MW 10-00277 (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758545&IMG=59423)1/21/2010 8:48:12 AM1/21/2010 8:50:04 AM

JMO

[MagicPool]

I wasn't really referring to the pipe though... Sorry IMO one is no better then the other and I only need my eyes to see that. Junior needs to be where there are NO drugs period. It's to the point where it's not about sides data..

I agree with everything you stated. I think everyone needs to keep the part I bolded in mind. We should all be hoping JR is put is a safe, drug free, LOVING enviroment. Bad enough his sissy went missing....now his daddy is locked up and it's not looking like he'll be getting to hug him anytime in the near future.

On another note, can someone explain to me what the allure to hydrocodone is? I've got a bottle in the cupboard with a refill that was given to me so I could try and sleep after my fall on the ice. After 3 nights I gave up on it because all it does it make me constipated! Do drug users take in a differant way that causes a differant reaction?? (like snorting, shooting up)

JMO

[VivaViva]

Well it shows RC and MC and HC back at PSCO and released again.

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx


CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES 10/29/1983MW 10-00276 (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758544&IMG=49930)1/21/2010 8:52:58 AM1/21/2010 9:01:44 AM
CUMMINGS MISTY 12/09/1991FW 10-00278 (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758546&IMG=60244)1/21/2010 8:52:54 AM1/21/2010 8:59:11
CROSLIN HANK THOMAS 8/02/1986MW 10-00277 (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758545&IMG=59423)1/21/2010 8:48:12 AM1/21/2010 8:50:04 AM

JMO

Bond was not posted though- they are cooling their heels in St Johns and Flagler- thats what happened when they are moved- look at the other inmates who have posted bond- it says it next to the charge-

Look at this one as an example of someone who has bonded out-

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758554&IMG=42667

[Elle]

Isn't it interesting that Teresa is suggusting Gram Sykes get custody of Junior, and she is not asking for herself?

She states she hopes he remains in GGS home as he has been there since Haleigh disappearance. IIRC Teresa also works and maybe that factored into her statement. IDK.

imoo

[Motomom]

It may be she(TN) feels that Jr. has been w/GGS all this time and really doesn't want to up-root him again right now..Maybe she is thinking of Jr. and not herself..

Tex.. You are probably right. Most people do think of the child first.. at least I'd hope so.

[HouseOfClark]

Well it shows RC and MC and HC back at PSCO and released again. Still no bond posted, so guess they must have come back long enough to appear before a Judge or whatever the next step was.

http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx


CUMMINGS RONALD LEMYLES 10/29/1983MW 10-00276 (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758544&IMG=49930)1/21/2010 8:52:58 AM1/21/2010 9:01:44 AM
CUMMINGS MISTY 12/09/1991FW 10-00278 (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758546&IMG=60244)1/21/2010 8:52:54 AM1/21/2010 8:59:11
CROSLIN HANK THOMAS 8/02/1986MW 10-00277 (http://boards.insessiontrials.com/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758545&IMG=59423)1/21/2010 8:48:12 AM1/21/2010 8:50:04 AM

JMO

But when you click on the individual link, it doesn't show any bond posted or any release.

Released as in first court appearance?

[Elle]

What Teresa wants does not matter at this point- look at the son she raised-


I will not hold Theresa accountable for choices Ron makes, he is a grown man.

[tia marie]

But when you click on the individual link, it doesn't show any bond posted or any release.

Released as in first court appearance?

I doubt any will be released. They will most likely plead indigent and ask for court appointed attys.

[HouseOfClark]

It may be she(TN) feels that Jr. has been w/GGS all this time and really doesn't want to up-root him again right now..Maybe she is thinking of Jr. and not herself..

But if Ron posts bond, wouldn't he be going back to GGS' house?

That wouldn't change anything for Jr.

JMO

[VivaViva]

Come on, Viva. You can't blame a parent for a grown man's actions.

Not only is that an unfair statement, but IMO it is an ignorant one.

How many parents have raised children in a good loving home, only to have those same children turn around and kill the very parents that raised them?

If you want to throw blame, then throw it where it belongs.

Ron is a grown damn man.
Ron makes Ron's choices.
Ron left Haliegh with Misty.
Where is HIS responsibility?


Yeah, but children grow up learning what they see- if you smoke, chances are your kid is going to smoke- I believe ron has never been held accountable for his actions and coddled all his life- I dont like the fact the Cummings act like Crystal never existed and isnt the childrens mother- its called parental alienation and its disgusting- reality is going to slap them down soon, and believe me- I have held Ron responsible for this mess since day one, I think a few can attest to that-

[?noanswer]

But when you click on the individual link, it doesn't show any bond posted or any release.

Released as in first court appearance?

I don't know. The times they show as in and out was just a few minutes. Doesn't look like enough time to do anything. I don't think they have been released from custody, just moved to a different location as was done last night. JMO

[Motomom]

But if Ron posts bond, wouldn't he be going back to GGS' house?

That wouldn't change anything for Jr.

JMO

I really don't think Ron is going to post bond.. I don't think any of them are going to at this point.

I'm hoping they leaned hard on Misty..real hard..Haleigh needs to be found.

[HouseOfClark]

I don't know. The times they show as in and out was just a few minutes. Doesn't look like enough time to do anything. I don't think they have been released from custody, just moved to a different location as was done last night. JMO

Misty's first court appearance was scheduled for this morning. I don't know about any of the others, but I'm guessing they'll all be held early and pretty close to each other.

If they're televised, I'd like to see them!

[MagicPool]

What Teresa wants does not matter at this point- look at the son she raised-

Even the best of parents/home have kids that go the wrong way. No matter how hard a parent tries, sometimes it's not enough. Ron is an adult. He makes his own choices. Him and only him is to blame.

JMO

[tia marie]

Yeah, but children grow up learning what they see- if you smoke, chances are your kid is going to smoke- I believe ron has never been held accountable for his actions and coddled all his life- I dont like the fact the Cummings act like Crystal never existed and isnt the childrens mother- its called parental alienation and its disgusting- reality is going to slap them down soon, and believe me- I have held Ron responsible for this mess since day one, I think a few can attest to that-

Teresa appears to be a savvy woman. She had to question how Ron and Misty got by for almost a year without verifiable income.

What is an Enabler?

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-an-enabler.htm

[HouseOfClark]

HOC I doubt any would get full immunity but these drug charges could go away and it wouldn't bother me.. $3900 isn't alot in drugs.. I wouldn't consider that a big time drug trafficker but that's JMO.. If they could get information about Haleigh.. I could care less about these charges. But if they don't tell.. keep em locked up and now I think they have the option..

Where's the information on $3900?

I might have missed it in the fast and furious links!

[tia marie]

Misty's first court appearance was scheduled for this morning. I don't know about any of the others, but I'm guessing they'll all be held early and pretty close to each other.

If they're televised, I'd like to see them!

Scanner reports 7 men and 2 women being escorted to court from jail.

[Motomom]

Where's the information on $3900?

I might have missed it in the fast and furious links!

It's been in all of the links posted so if you find one of them, you should be able to see it. The street value of the drugs was $3900.00. I think the video of Matt Saefer also has the information.

[FrankieBones1]

It may be she(TN) feels that Jr. has been w/GGS all this time and really doesn't want to up-root him again right now..Maybe she is thinking of Jr. and not herself..
That makes more sense, Tex. I like the way you take your time and think of a situation and come up with a sane answer. :wub:

[VivaViva]

That is hogwash.

TN doesn't smoke, but Ron does.
TN never had a child missing, but Ron does.
TN never married a child groom, but Ron did (well, a bride).
TN never dealt drugs undercover, but Ron did.

Your bias of Ron and everything Ron-related is clouding your judgement, imo.

Just because you hate the food, doesn't mean you hate the cook.

Um, whatever, I am here for HaLeigh not to make excuses for TN- her son is a drug addicted criminal who has had his mom enabling him for years- And you are damn right I am biased about Ron, hes smiling in his mugshot like this is a big joke- hes hanging out with the key to finding his daughter- I will NEVER apolgize ever for being mean to Ron, EVER- TN should be ashamed at the man he has become-

[tia marie]

Where's the information on $3900?

I might have missed it in the fast and furious links!

http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/state/cummings-dad-stepmom-arrested

[FrankieBones1]

Aw heck, Frankie, Ron and Misty probably thought that the undercover officer was their "new" best friend and customer.

No wonder Donna and Misty hit it off when they first met. Did Tim really "banish" her from Equusearch?

I am biting my tongue about Junior's situation. I don't think anyone would like what I have to say.
Fill me in anyway.

[Texas48]

Tex.. You are probably right. Most people do think of the child first.. at least I'd hope so.
As for as I'm concerned they ALL should have been putting these kids first all along and sadlly I don't think they have..

[5boxersmom]

Wow just heard about the arrests. I knew I should not have taken a night off from the computer. :biggrin:

Poor JR. I hope he has a safe and loving home. JR and HaLeigh are the victims in all of this and I hate it when a child is hurting.

How stupid for any of them to be dealing. They had to know they were being watched.

Misty has been 18 for what a month? And look at what she is facing. I hope she talks.

When was the car incident with CJ's? Maybe he is the informant? They said a month investigation.

Donna's arrest is the one that truly shocks me. :w00t:

Poor HaLeigh. She could have accidently OD'd if the drugs were in the house. She could have been taken for a drug debt. Or revenge. Or so on and so on. Just so sad. She deserves to be brought home.
:rose:

[FrankieBones1]

I will not hold Theresa accountable for choices Ron makes, he is a grown man.

You're right, Elle. And for anyone to even suggest that Ron's mother is an enabler is looking for a lawsuit against them.

[MagicPool]

That is hogwash.

TN doesn't smoke, but Ron does.
TN never had a child missing, but Ron does.
TN never married a child groom, but Ron did (well, a bride).
TN never dealt drugs undercover, but Ron did.

Your bias of Ron and everything Ron-related is clouding your judgement, imo.

Just because you hate the food, doesn't mean you hate the cook.

:thumbsup: Perfectly stated IMO

[Texas48]

But if Ron posts bond, wouldn't he be going back to GGS' house?

That wouldn't change anything for Jr.

JMO
Yea..your right HOC..had not even thought about RC getting out..Duh..

[Motomom]

As for as I'm concerned they ALL should have been putting these kids first all along and sadlly I don't think they have..

You know I agree with you tex..

[mrsmcgoo]

I will not hold Theresa accountable for choices Ron makes, he is a grown man.

I have always felt very very sorry for this lady. She reminded me of someone that has been through alot.

JMO

[VivaViva]

Maybe Misty will tell what happened and get the reward money and bail out with that?

[Scampi]

VIDEO: Drug Trafficking Arrests
- 02:13 -- 1/21/2010 -

Matt Safer reporting - Nearly one year after her disappearance, two of the last people to see Haleigh Cummings are behind bars this morning on unrelated charges. Investigators arrested her father, former step-mother and three others late Wednesday night on drug trafficking charges

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=35903@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5


Thank you for the link Lynn. Finally, the entire nasty bunch of them in jail on very serious charges, just where they belong.

IMO

:thumbup:

[Texas48]

Yeah, but children grow up learning what they see- if you smoke, chances are your kid is going to smoke- I believe ron has never been held accountable for his actions and coddled all his life- I dont like the fact the Cummings act like Crystal never existed and isnt the childrens mother- its called parental alienation and its disgusting- reality is going to slap them down soon, and believe me- I have held Ron responsible for this mess since day one, I think a few can attest to that-BBM
You are so right Viva..but..I believe most all parents want and wish and pray that their kids grow into decent adults..The best of parents have been disappointed many times...I can't and won't blame parents for their *grown* children's mistakes..
As for Crystal..Maybe they know her much better than we do..we only know her from what we have seen..just like Ron and Misty and the others...this could be the reason TN treats her like she never existed..we may never know all the problems in these ppl's lives..kwim?
IF Crystal wants custody then she needs to stand up and fight for him..thats all there is to it..

[VivaViva]

Mandatory minimum- 25 years- wow- unreal, that is no joke, it doesn't even matter if Misty doesn't have a record- mandatory minimum is no joke-

[Mel]

Where's the information on $3900?

I might have missed it in the fast and furious links!

the $3,900.00 is only one phase of the bust....the 2nd phase was where they actually bought, what is called the trafficking amount, ... that's how i understand it....it's not just about $3,900 worth of drugs...

[Mel]

Thank you for the link Lynn. Finally, the entire nasty bunch of them in jail on very serious charges, just where they belong.

IMO

:thumbup:

great, isn't it Scamp?:)

[VivaViva]

BBM
You are so right Viva..but..I believe most all parents want and wish and pray that their kids grow into decent adults..The best of parents have been disappointed many times...I can't and won't blame parents for their *grown* children's mistakes..
As for Crystal..Maybe they know her much better than we do..we only know her from what we have seen..just like Ron and Misty and the others...this could be the reason TN treats her like she never existed..we may never know all the problems in these ppl's lives..kwim?
IF Crystal wants custody then she needs to stand up and fight for him..thats all there is to it..

Honestly, I dont care about TN, my heart does go out to her right now because not only has she lost her grandaughter, she is going to lose her son for a minimum of 25 years, IF, he is convicted- right now I am walking away from talking about TN, because in hindsight she does not matter- I want Misty to talk and tell what happened to HaLEigh- thats all that matters to me- Misty is looking at 25 years and I am praying and hoping she talks-

[VivaViva]

the $3,900.00 is only one phase of the bust....the 2nd phase was where they actually bought, what is called the trafficking amount, ... that's how i understand it....it's not just about $3,900 worth of drugs...

So did Ron and Misty have 3900 cash they gave to cops?

[tia marie]

great, isn't it Scamp?:)

~~~~~waving to Mel~~~~~

I thought this day would never come.

[mrsmcgoo]

BBM
You are so right Viva..but..I believe most all parents want and wish and pray that their kids grow into decent adults..The best of parents have been disappointed many times...I can't and won't blame parents for their *grown* children's mistakes..
As for Crystal..Maybe they know her much better than we do..we only know her from what we have seen..just like Ron and Misty and the others...this could be the reason TN treats her like she never existed..we may never know all the problems in these ppl's lives..kwim?
IF Crystal wants custody then she needs to stand up and fight for him..thats all there is to it..

There will never be a better opportunity for Crystal to get custody. If this is truly what she wants, she needs to jump at this chance and proceed. If she fails to do this, that to me will mean that she doesn't want this child. :crying:

JMO

[HouseOfClark]

the $3,900.00 is only one phase of the bust....the 2nd phase was where they actually bought, what is called the trafficking amount, ... that's how i understand it....it's not just about $3,900 worth of drugs...

So they would have paid less for the stock replenishing than what they would have sold them for.

I don't know 'nuttin about drugs and dealers, thank God.

[VivaViva]

So they would have paid less for the stock replenishing than what they would have sold them for.

I don't know 'nuttin about drugs and dealers, thank God.

I wonder if the trafficking had to do with them crossing county lines? But from what I gather, they bought the stuff and were arrested right away- So did they go make a buy with Hope, Tommy and Donna in the car?

[HouseOfClark]

It had always been my belief that families should stick together.
That was before Haleigh Cummings.

He should be removed from that state. All parental ties should be severed and he should be put up for a closed adoption to a loving home with two parents who can and will provide him with much counseling, love, support and more importantly, safety.

JR doesn't have a chance in Satsuma. Even if he stays with GGMS, he is still in the middle of this mess. Imagine when this child goes to school, he will always be pointed at, talked about, ridiculed. KIDS are cruel!!

He is still young and still has a chance at a normal life, something his sister will never experience.

JMO

I think it would take more than Ron's arrest to sever Crystal's parental rights. I would think she would have to voluntarily relinquish her rights.

JMO

[Mel]

So did Ron and Misty have 3900 cash they gave to cops?

i can't find the link now, where it stated this was a "2 phase drug bust".....either way, even if some don't think $3,900 worth of drugs isn't much, (which it is, when it comes to pills) it's apparently enough to be considered trafficking.

[Tia]

Thank you for the link Lynn. Finally, the entire nasty bunch of them in jail on very serious charges, just where they belong.

IMO

:thumbup:

Amen!

Did they honestly think that LE still didn't have their eye on them??! I just can't believe they'd be this stupid!

[VivaViva]

i can't find the link now, where it stated this was a "2 phase drug bust".....either way, even if some don't think $3,900 worth of drugs isn't much, (which it is, when it comes to pills) it's apparently enough to be considered trafficking.

I think 3900 is a ton of money! If you looked at it like they bought each pill for lets say 5 bucks- thats some party!

[Dunlurken]

Jacksonville News article as updated on Thursday, 1-21-10 at 6 A.M.

http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2010-01-20/story/haleigh_cummings_father_and_former_stepmom_arreste d_on_drug_charges

Included are the names of 5 interconnected people arrested on similar drug charges, their bail amounts, and at which jail they are being held (per press release) at this time.

[JMO * Themis]
From your link:

"Misty Croslin and Hank Croslin Jr. are in the St. Johns County jail; Ronald Cummings is in the Flagler County jail. Misty Croslin is being held on $950,000 bail; Cummings, $500,000; Brock, $250,000; Sykes, $150,000; and Hank Croslin Jr., $100,000."

WOW! Playing catch up. Let me continue to read. JMO.

[AmndaRcknwth]

But if Ron posts bond, wouldn't he be going back to GGS' house?

That wouldn't change anything for Jr.

JMO

He could face a 25-year mandatory sentence for this mess.

Remember Haylee Donathan's case from last year? (Ohio, found in CA) This month a judge terminated all parental rights and let Haylee live with a foster family that she has come to love and who plan to try to adopt her.

I hope that something like this can happen to Junior.



As for those who believed in Ron, I understand. I believed in Joran, and look how that turned out.

[HouseOfClark]

I wonder if the trafficking had to do with them crossing county lines? But from what I gather, they bought the stuff and were arrested right away- So did they go make a buy with Hope, Tommy and Donna in the car?

I don't know. It's my understanding that Ron and Misty were taken into custody together at the same time, right after the "purchase" of "trafficking amounts". The others were arrested in different counties.

But don't quote me on it. Somebody had a break down over at WS where everyone was at the time of their arrest.

[Mel]

So they would have paid less for the stock replenishing than what they would have sold them for.

I don't know 'nuttin about drugs and dealers, thank God.

i don't know much about it either, HOC...i may have this confused..wish i could find the article where it went into more detail about the bust...i'm just happy they were arrested on several felony charges...they'll be in jail awhile:)

[VivaViva]

Amen!

Did they honestly think that LE still didn't have their eye on them??! I just can't believe they'd be this stupid!

I ALWAYS knew that LE was going to let them feel comfy and let them think they are their friends and under the radar, I lost hope, but there has always been a plan for these two- Right now I am satisfied they could sit in jail for 25 years, even if it isnt HaLeigh related- the Lord works in mysterious ways- the cops had to do this, this way, no way were any of them going to talk without something major going on- this is major- does misty love Ron enough to go away for 25 years? I doubt it-

[Mel]

I don't know. It's my understanding that Ron and Misty were taken into custody together at the same time, right after the "purchase" of "trafficking amounts". The others were arrested in different counties.

But don't quote me on it. Somebody had a break down over at WS where everyone was at the time of their arrest.

that's correct...Misty & RC were arrested together, at the same time..the others were arrested separately, on lessor charges, thus the much lower bond amounts.

[Dunlurken]

Now we know why Ron married Misty. To keep her mouth shut on several "counts". I never could understand that and always felt he was into something illegal. JMO.

[HouseOfClark]

Yes, HOC.

They bought their "stock" for less.
They would sell them for a profit.
The 3900, is the approximate amount that they would "net" on the street, not what they actually paid.

At the risk of keeping your pristine reputation intact (LOL), I'm not gonna ask how you know this.

(But thanks for the info!)

[CatToy]

That is hogwash.

TN doesn't smoke, but Ron does.
TN never had a child missing, but Ron does.
TN never married a child groom, but Ron did (well, a bride).
TN never dealt drugs undercover, but Ron did.

Your bias of Ron and everything Ron-related is clouding your judgement, imo.

Just because you hate the food, doesn't mean you hate the cook.
Link please that Ronald has dealt drugs undercover...

[Mel]

I ALWAYS knew that LE was going to let them feel comfy and let them think they are their friends and under the radar, I lost hope, but there has always been a plan for these two- Right now I am satisfied they could sit in jail for 25 years, even if it isnt HaLeigh related- the Lord works in mysterious ways- the cops had to do this, this way, no way were any of them going to talk without something major going on- this is major- does misty love Ron enough to go away for 25 years? I doubt it-

i had given up also, Viva...but i knew it was just a matter of time when RC would be back in trouble again...i'll be perfectly happy to see him sitting in jail for 25 yrs, even if it's not related to Haleigh....i think this all was done intentionally to wait on misty turning 18:)

[Mel]

Link please that Ronald has dealt drugs undercover...

there is no credible info about RC being an undercover drug dealer...pure rumor, speculation

[HouseOfClark]

It would take more than Ron's arrest to sever Crystal's rights, you are correct. It would take a great deal to sever all family rights.

However, someone asked me what I thought should happen.....that's what I think.

This kiddo has zero chance in Satsuma, if you ask me.

Or Putnam County for that matter.

JMO

[HouseOfClark]

i had given up also, Viva...but i knew it was just a matter of time when RC would be back in trouble again...i'll be perfectly happy to see him sitting in jail for 25 yrs, even if it's not related to Haleigh....i think this all was done intentionally to wait on misty turning 18:)

Heck, I never thought Putnam County had it in 'em!

[mrsmcgoo]

So do you posters that have been following this case closely feel it will be "let's make a deal" time for Misty or even her brother? Whoever in this case knows more than they have ever told?

25 years is a LONG time! Is that for each charge...as per Misty's 6 charges that life for her and plus plus. Maybe I am not understanding these charges though...anyone know?

[Mel]

~~~~~waving to Mel~~~~~

I thought this day would never come.

but it has!:biggrin:

[Dunlurken]

there is no credible info about RC being an undercover drug dealer...pure rumor, speculation

If he was undercover, his butt wouldn't be sitting in jail right now. JMO.

[VivaViva]

Heck, I never thought Putnam County had it in 'em!

I wonder if this is why ron is in Flaggler, and not Putnam, because hes too familiar with everyone there-

[Ladygator]

Wowzers! I went to the Orlando Sent to see what was going on with Casey Anthony only to find these 2 mugs on the front page!

IMO, the marriage and divorce were both shams! They're still thick as thieves with one another.

With charges like these hanging over their heads maybe they'll sing a different tune as far as Haleigh is concerned.

[Mel]

Thats funny BassMan..When it all broke last night I was thinking of so many *die-hards* that were misisng..I'm sure everyone will be here today..

course they will...just because someone doesn't show up here on a daily basis to make a comment hoping Haleigh comes home, or lites a candle, doesn't make them any less, what you call, a "diehard"....

[Dunlurken]

3900 is the street value, Viva. What Misty and Ron would have made if they sold the drugs on the street, not what they paid for them.

That is my understanding.

I need to know what type of prescription drugs they were to be able to determine the street value. I do know that you can get a prescription, legally, for about $1.00 (90 pills). It's worth ten times as much on the street. I guess that's not the issue..... trafficking in prescription drugs is the issue.

This is the mess Haleigh was involved in. No wonder she's GONE!

[Elle]

So do you posters that have been following this case closely feel it will be "let's make a deal" time for Misty or even her brother? Whoever in this case knows more than they have ever told?

25 years is a LONG time! Is that for each charge...as per Misty's 6 charges that life for her and plus plus. Maybe I am not understanding these charges though...anyone know?


Can a deal be made with a mandatory? I know so little. Does a deal have to be offered before charged, meaning once charged would the state have to hold to the mandatory? Again, I know so little, so very little.

[tia marie]

Heck, I never thought Putnam County had it in 'em!

I take back anything I ever said negative about PC's investigation. How wise of them to wait till Misty turned adult. (18).

I wonder how the inmates will fare sitting in jail without their drugs.

[mrsmcgoo]

I need to know what type of prescription drugs they were to be able to determine the street value. I do know that you can get a prescription, legally, for about $1.00 (90 pills). It's worth ten times as much on the street. I guess that's not the issue..... trafficking in prescription drugs is the issue.

This is the mess Haleigh was involved in. No wonder she's GONE!

Makes me think, if Haleigh's disappearance isn't enough for them to clean up their act...(they had to be aware that they would be under the radar)...what in the name of time was happening before Haleigh's disappearance in that house.
:crying:

[Mel]

I take back anything I ever said negative about PC's investigation. How wise of them to wait till Misty turned adult. (18).

I wonder how the inmates will fare sitting in jail without their drugs.

yep, i'm almost giddy over this, can't help it!:tongueside:

later :seeya:

[Tia]

I ALWAYS knew that LE was going to let them feel comfy and let them think they are their friends and under the radar, I lost hope, but there has always been a plan for these two- Right now I am satisfied they could sit in jail for 25 years, even if it isnt HaLeigh related- the Lord works in mysterious ways- the cops had to do this, this way, no way were any of them going to talk without something major going on- this is major- does misty love Ron enough to go away for 25 years? I doubt it-

BBM

ITA! Look at OJ!!!

[Dunlurken]

I take back anything I ever said negative about PC's investigation. How wise of them to wait till Misty turned adult. (18).

I wonder how the inmates will fare sitting in jail without their drugs.

They've obviously been following them. LMAO. Let's see who else goes down.

The Donna Broch (sp?) thing really bothers me for some reason.

[VivaViva]

I take back anything I ever said negative about PC's investigation. How wise of them to wait till Misty turned adult. (18).

I wonder how the inmates will fare sitting in jail without their drugs.

I remember being brutalized and called stupid because I thought they were waiting for Misty to turn 18 to take action, lol-

Misty is going to sing like a bird, didn't her Dad say in an interview with Art Misty fears jail more than anything else?

[4Kids]

If I am seeing this correctly...the only one of these jokers that will benefit from telling what happened to Haleigh needs to be the first one singing...and perhaps get offered a lighter charge, or immunity. Otherwise, Ron and Misty are looking at 25 if convicted. 25 years is probably more than most get for killing their children.

IMO

[Dunlurken]

Makes me think, if Haleigh's disappearance isn't enough for them to clean up their act...(they had to be aware that they would be under the radar)...what in the name of time was happening before Haleigh's disappearance in that house.
:crying:

They thought they were home free. Guess what, NOT!

That's why I wanted to see pics of the trailer before Haleigh went missing. LE wouldn't release any pics until after the MH was "cleaned up". We, as posters, had nothing to work with. JMO.

[mrsmcgoo]

Can a deal be made with a mandatory? I know so little. Does a deal have to be offered before charged, meaning once charged would the state have to hold to the mandatory? Again, I know so little, so very little.

I am the same, really have no idea. I am hoping they can do something just for Haleigh's sake.

JMO

[4Kids]

I remember being brutalized and called stupid because I thought they were waiting for Misty to turn 18 to take action, lol-

Misty is going to sing like a bird, didn't her Dad say in an interview with Art Misty fears jail more than anything else?

Viva....I don't remeber brutalizing you, but I have to say...you were right. I think Tara....where ever she is today, had the same thoughts. IMO

[VivaViva]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/012110-haleigh-cummings-family

7 different occasions Ron and Misty bought or sold drugs to LE-

[CatToy]

If he was undercover, his butt wouldn't be sitting in jail right now. JMO.

Thats right, and actually it was posted as fact in the above post that he was. Now, this has got to stop. For those that cannot stand what has happened, I'm sorry. But RC is no "undercover agent" and I would appreciate it if people would stop eluding to this as fact. That's all.

See his arrest for what it is. A drug traffic arrest...dealing in scripts.

I can only say this morning that as far as I'm concerned they are all exactly where they belong. NOW LE (not some fake "undercover" non existent entity) can lean on them until the COWS come home.
Moooo

Last night was hopefully the start of Justice for little Haleigh. No longer, will people be able to sit here and exclaim that RC has this pristine reputation. Nor can they say he is a good father, who deserves custody of that child. That has all ended now, by his own hand. Hopefully he will trip himself up when they do start to lean on him. Haleigh, I don't think is ever coming back. And RC, I believe he knows why.
Misty knows, maybe Tommy knows. Those 20 phone calls long before 3:30 also, may just be the heart of this case and what happened to Haleigh.

[Tia]

Thats right, and actually it was posted as fact in the above post that he was. Now, this has got to stop. For those that cannot stand what has happened, I'm sorry. But RC is no "undercover agent" and I would appreciate it if people would stop eluding to this as fact. That's all.

See his arrest for what it is. A drug traffic arrest...dealing in scripts.

I can only say this morning that as far as I'm concerned they are all exactly where they belong. NOW LE (not some fake "undercover" non existent entity) can lean on them until the COWS come home.
Moooo

Last night was hopefully the start of Justice for little Haleigh. No longer, will people be able to sit here and exclaim that RC has this pristine reputation. Nor can they say he is a good father, who deserves custody of that child. That has all ended now, by his own hand. Hopefully he will trip himself up when they do start to lean on him. Haleigh, I don't think is ever coming back. And RC, I believe he knows why.
Misty knows, maybe Tommy knows. Those 20 phone calls long before 3:30 also, may just be the heart of this case and what happened to Haleigh.

:thumbsup:

Great post!!!!

[VivaViva]

Viva....I don't remeber brutalizing you, but I have to say...you were right. I think Tara....where ever she is today, had the same thoughts. IMO

I am just really sad, this really isnt about being right because HaLeigh is probably dead and out in the elements and it just makes me so sick ya know? I am praying so hard that Misty does talk and does the right thing, and I think she will, unless she alone killed HaLeigh and does not want anyone to know-

[Motomom]

3900 is the street value, Viva. What Misty and Ron would have made if they sold the drugs on the street, not what they paid for them.

That is my understanding.

bassman what do the pills go for individually if you know. Different areas I imagine have different prices. I know that some pills only get about 10 bucks but I've heard up to a hundred a pill for certain drugs.

[Dunlurken]

If I am seeing this correctly...the only one of these jokers that will benefit from telling what happened to Haleigh needs to be the first one singing...and perhaps get offered a lighter charge, or immunity. Otherwise, Ron and Misty are looking at 25 if convicted. 25 years is probably more than most get for killing their children.

IMO

That would be Misty. She will sing simply cause she ain't smart enough to keep her mouth shut. JMO.

[Motomom]

So do you posters that have been following this case closely feel it will be "let's make a deal" time for Misty or even her brother? Whoever in this case knows more than they have ever told?

25 years is a LONG time! Is that for each charge...as per Misty's 6 charges that life for her and plus plus. Maybe I am not understanding these charges though...anyone know?

I think it is time for a deal..and Misty or Tommy is the one to make it with IMO.. time will tell.

[courtsinsession]

If I am seeing this correctly...the only one of these jokers that will benefit from telling what happened to Haleigh needs to be the first one singing...and perhaps get offered a lighter charge, or immunity. Otherwise, Ron and Misty are looking at 25 if convicted. 25 years is probably more than most get for killing their children.

IMO

When I read this in the Orlando sentinel my first reaction was to just cry for poor unfortunate Haleigh; poor sweet girl, to be born to trash like this. i hope that this arrest leads to the truth about what happened to this poor child.

[tia marie]

course they will...just because someone doesn't show up here on a daily basis to make a comment hoping Haleigh comes home, or lites a candle, doesn't make them any less, what you call, a "diehard"....

Thanks...We are the ever ready batteries, doncha know?

Looks like Geraldo was right after all. :wink:

[4Kids]

I am just really sad, this really isnt about being right because HaLeigh is probably dead and out in the elements and it just makes me so sick ya know? I am praying so hard that Misty does talk and does the right thing, and I think she will, unless she alone killed HaLeigh and does not want anyone to know-

I hope she sings. 25 years is a very long time. I am still convinced she was not home and came home to find Haleigh was gone or dead. I truly believe she has been in denial/coverup mode ever since. I hope this is the case. It really makes me sick to think of any child being murdered by someone they trusted. IMO

ETA Pytko's story is still a possibility, I suppose. Either way....the ending for Haleigh is so very sad. IMO

[Ladygator]

I need to know what type of prescription drugs they were to be able to determine the street value. I do know that you can get a prescription, legally, for about $1.00 (90 pills). It's worth ten times as much on the street. I guess that's not the issue..... trafficking in prescription drugs is the issue.

This is the mess Haleigh was involved in. No wonder she's GONE!

They probably go by what the drug is worth on 'their streets'. From prior buys and busts. I imagine the prices vary by location and demand.

[mrsmcgoo]

They thought they were home free. Guess what, NOT!

That's why I wanted to see pics of the trailer before Haleigh went missing. LE wouldn't release any pics until after the MH was "cleaned up". We, as posters, had nothing to work with. JMO.

Yes, so true. Heaven knows what condition that home was in. I don't remember ever seeing pics LE took at the scene and I am not sure why. Florida is so forthcoming in these cases, but it might be only after someone is charged that the info begins to be put out.

JMO

[VivaViva]

I hope she sings. 25 years is a very long time. I am still convinced she was not home and came home to find Haleigh was gone or dead. I truly believe she has been in denial/coverup mode ever since. I hope this is the case. It really makes me sick to think of any child being murdered by someone they trusted. IMO

ETA Pytko's story is still a possibility, I suppose. Either way....the ending for Haleigh is so very sad. IMO

Oh, and I am all for leniency for everyone involved if it was truly an accident- BUT- if they tossed that baby in the water, I hope there is no leniency- I mean even tot mom Casey left the child somewhere where she could be recovered- if she cant be recovered, I am going to be devestated-

[Elle]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/012110-haleigh-cummings-family

7 different occasions Ron and Misty bought or sold drugs to LE-

I wonder why they did not arrest them on the first transaction, I guess this insures harsher penalties if convicted and affords more leverage for hopefully getting info?

[VivaViva]

Its being picked up on HLN now-

[VivaViva]

I wonder why they did not arrest them on the first transaction, I guess this insures harsher penalties if convicted and affords more leverage for hopefully getting info?

Undercover cops, can do drugs with the buyers, its about making them feel safe and comfortable with the undercover-

[CatToy]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/012110-haleigh-cummings-family

7 different occasions Ron and Misty bought or sold drugs to LE-

Thank you Viva. It pains me to know and see so many who want to support someone like this. I think that as on other "sites" online, there are some paid bloggers in this case, paid or family members who are doing everything they can to clean up after RC & "family".

Poor Haleigh. Don't they ever think for a minute, what life with him was really like? Please take a good look. Take a good look again at the inside of that trailer. Take a good look at the stains on all the pillows and the state of the carpet and the doors, with ropes on the front door, and Haleighs room empty. this poor thing was afraid of the dark. And that is the only statement that RC has ever made that I believe. The ONLY statement. Now, whatever he says today will be filmed by LE it will be preserved on tape, and I don't think he is smart enough to out wit, out last LE and an interrogation.
Neither is Misty.

Let the games begin.

[Tia]

I wonder why they did not arrest them on the first transaction, I guess this insures harsher penalties if convicted and affords more leverage for hopefully getting info?

I keep an eye on this case, but don't follow it as closely as some others so bear with me.....

When did Misty turn 18? Is it possible LE was waiting for that? Or am I way off?

[Lynn Gweeny]

Misty Cummings appears before judge
St. Augustine.com
Posted: January 21, 2010 - 10:05am

Photo of Misty and Tommy in court:

http://staugustine.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/IMG_9734.jpg

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-01-21/misty-cummings-appears-judge

[VivaViva]

Ronald and Misty Cummings divorced in October, but investigators say they have been on their tails for the last month watching them run a drug operation, even selling prescription drugs oxycodone and hydrocodone to undercover deputies.

http://www.wftv.com/news/22299764/detail.html

[Elle]

Undercover cops, can do drugs with the buyers, its about making them feel safe and comfortable with the undercover-

Yes, that makes sense, to infiltrate you have to get their trust. Another 2x4 hits me over the head (today has been a painful day).

[Dunlurken]

Around here, Oxy and Vicodin go for around 20 bucks a pill. Of course, there are "discounts" if you purchase in bulk.

I am in VA, though, I am not sure in Florida.

Hey, I'm in VA too. Yes, that stuff is worth alot. That's why I'm surprised at the 3900 street value and the stiff bond. JMO.

Can we all say drug trafficking equals trafficking in children? Especially for addicts. aka that other case (geez, I'm going brain dead) where the child was last seen at the elevator door. I think I've blocked that one out on purpose. JMO.

[KatieLady]

course they will...just because someone doesn't show up here on a daily basis to make a comment hoping Haleigh comes home, or lites a candle, doesn't make them any less, what you call, a "diehard"....

ITA Mel...I read here everyday to try and stay current. I just don't post as there just hasn't been anything really new to talk about.

I am praying that this will get someone...anyone...talking about where Haleigh is!

[tia marie]

Misty Cummings appears before judge
St. Augustine.com
Posted: January 21, 2010 - 10:05am

Photo of Misty and Tommy in court:

http://staugustine.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/IMG_9734.jpg

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-01-21/misty-cummings-appears-judge

Suprised, Misty says *she can afford a lawyer* to the judge. Where is she getting the money?

[4Kids]

Hey, I'm in VA too. Yes, that stuff is worth alot. That's why I'm surprised at the 3900 street value and the stiff bond. JMO.

Can we all say drug trafficking equals trafficking in children? Especially for addicts. aka that other case (geez, I'm going brain dead) where the child was last seen at the elevator door. I think I've blocked that one out on purpose. JMO.

Yes....Shaniya. IMO

[VivaViva]

Misty Cummings appears before judge
St. Augustine.com
Posted: January 21, 2010 - 10:05am

Photo of Misty and Tommy in court:

http://staugustine.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/IMG_9734.jpg

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-01-21/misty-cummings-appears-judge




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From the link-

Police said Croslin, 18, Ronald Cummings, 26, and three other suspects sold undercover detectives prescription drugs on a number of occasions during a four-month span.



I KNEW they never broke up-

[Tia]

December 19th

Thank you!

So, she's only been 18 for a little over a month.............

It could be that they were waiting.

What a wasted life.

[Dunlurken]

Misty Cummings appears before judge
St. Augustine.com
Posted: January 21, 2010 - 10:05am

Photo of Misty and Tommy in court:

http://staugustine.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/story_slideshow_thumb/IMG_9734.jpg

http://staugustine.com/news/local-news/2010-01-21/misty-cummings-appears-judge

I'm sorry, but why does that make me laugh? :biggrin: No more showing her diamond engagement ring? Poor Her!

[Owlface]

Teresa appears to be a savvy woman. She had to question how Ron and Misty got by for almost a year without verifiable income.

What is an Enabler?

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-an-enabler.htm

I absolutely agree with this assessment. This is not news to Teresa, or to AS either.

[Dunlurken]

Yes....Shaniya. IMO

Thank you.

[Tia]

I'm sorry, but why does that make me laugh? :biggrin: No more showing her diamond engagement ring? Poor Her!

I want to know how she can afford a lawyer!!!

[just4justice]

Suprised, Misty says *she can afford a lawyer* to the judge. Where is she getting the money?

:scared: Maybe she invested her deal money in the stock market or squirreled some away and put it in a CD.:huh:

ETA I thought she already had an attorney. Maybe he got tired of her running her mouth and dumped her. On the other hand, she is a compulsive liar so maybe she flat out lied to the judge.

[5boxersmom]

Suprised, Misty says *she can afford a lawyer* to the judge. Where is she getting the money?

I was wondering the same thing.

[Diamond1]

Suprised, Misty says *she can afford a lawyer* to the judge. Where is she getting the money?

Maybe she has been saving her drug money from her sales to undercover investigators.

[AmndaRcknwth]

I am just really sad, this really isnt about being right because HaLeigh is probably dead and out in the elements and it just makes me so sick ya know? I am praying so hard that Misty does talk and does the right thing, and I think she will, unless she alone killed HaLeigh and does not want anyone to know-



I agree. When it is a precious little one gone, it doesn't matter who is right and who is wrong.

And it is good to know the truth, even when the truth is not what you want to believe.

It's like cold rain without an umbrella. Chilling.

[Lynn Gweeny]

PHOTO GALLERY - ARRAIGNMENT ROOM

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/Photo.aspx?slideshow=01d8efa6-194c-4e4f-adec-82719a4524fa&photo=498cac60-1f3b-4a0d-9cb2-1178c0842cd7

[4Kids]

I want to know how she can afford a lawyer!!!

She already had one on retainer....I think. imo

[HouseOfClark]

I want to know how she can afford a lawyer!!!

Yeah, me too!

Unless she's got a secret stash of cash somewhere....

[Dunlurken]

That is what many of us were speculating last night, that they wanted her to be an adult.

However, the second link Lynn just posted stated it was a 4 month long investigation.

I wondered last night how Donna was involved if the undercover was only for a month?

There are many wasted lives here........many.

Obviously Donna was staying in touch with Misty. I always wondered why Donna (who sneaked into this case) would take Misty to Universal and the arrests made during that "sojourn". JMO.

[Tia]

I am sure they are already contacting her "pro bono"...............

Good point.

[5boxersmom]

PHOTO GALLERY - ARRAIGNMENT ROOM

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/Photo.aspx?slideshow=01d8efa6-194c-4e4f-adec-82719a4524fa&photo=498cac60-1f3b-4a0d-9cb2-1178c0842cd7

Thanks Lynn.

Misty sure looks unhappy. I hope it is sinking in to her how she could go away for a long time.

[HouseOfClark]

:scared: Maybe she invested her deal money in the stock market or squirreled some away and put it in a CD.:huh:

ETA I thought she already had an attorney. Maybe he got tired of her running her mouth and dumped her. On the other hand, she is a compulsive liar so maybe she flat out lied to the judge.

Leave it to Misty to hit on a good stock while the rest of us are clipping coupons.

Life's not fair, I tell ya!

[CatToy]

No, it was not posted as fact, Cat.

I typed "TN never sold drugs undercover, but Ron did."

I SHOULD have typed "TN never sold drugs TO AN undercover, but Ron did."

I already answered your post once, regarding my typo.

My post had nothing to do with Ron being undercover, it had EVERYTHING to do with not blaming Teresa for Ron's choices in life.

What has to stop is those that jump to conclusions without reading the context of a post.

Sheesh.....now I remember why I stepped away from this mess.
Bassman, you cannot state that as fact as you did. ?

You stated he had worked undercover. Regardless; you have to be careful about that when you are writing. I think that TN does have some responsibility in this, because she also came forward to present to the world on national tv that her son was the salt of the earth pillar of the earth type of guy. And you know what? I'm sorry but it's just not true. And I think that TN KNOWS THIS. Fgs. SHE IS HIS MOTHER.
Do you understand what I'm saying? TN is not out of the woods with me in this case, because she has done everything to hold her son up as a good guy, who had nothing to do with drugs or haleigh going missing or abuse, or controlling nature with women. Look, She is his mother. SHE is biased. We are the public. We watched what they both put out to the public. And I believe it was not the truth.
Afterwards, DFS came out and stated they had a history with this family. Divorce is ugly, child custody cases, ugly painful...awful in fact.
I felt that TN was manipulating the press in many ways.

I know that some parents would do anything to present to the world, their child as an upstanding citizen when they are not. I"m not that kind of parent. I don't support people who lie, deal, steal, engage in road rage incidents, pull guns on people, go after minor girls, etc.
As a mother, I would have hid my head in shame. But TN did not do this, instead she came out presenting their family as "good" inherently good people. I saw RC hiding behind mommas skirt on national TV.
I'm not sure why some didn't see this. Maybe they need to review the national coverage, and the tapes. What kind of adult male, uses his mother to speak for his character? Come on now :D

So TN does play a role in this, sort of like Cindy A has done. On National TV, to the world. People who put themselves out like this, cross a line when they do so. The world can decide: credible or NO.

I decided a long time ago, NO. Not Credible. I'd like to know TN's timeline that night as well. This will all come out Bass, no matter what we do or say. LE will get at the truth, even if it takes ten yrs.
To arrest them and lock them up tight, for now, is brilliant and I'm
PROUD they have finally done so.


Haleigh is whispering to us ALL. Can you hear what she is saying?

Things were not as you were told. THAT is what Haleigh is saying.
Please Find me, things were bad, no one helped me....please.
Don't believe them, I was hurt. This is what Haleigh is whispering to us all.

LE is listening. I'm listening.

:rose:

[Peaches]

Prayers for Jr. and that the outcome be truly in his best interest. While I do not doubt for one second that he is loved, that in itself is not enough, he needs stability, he needs safety and he needs some semblence of normalcy. I have no idea what should happen, where he should be, only that his world needs to stop being torn apart.

I also pray for Theresa and Annette as I fear that a large portion of what is left of their world is about to shatter.

I am very angry and deeply saddened by the choices Ron has made. His actions are tearing this family apart.

God, where is Haleigh?


What an excellent post...............and ITA.

After the loss of HaLeigh one would think and hope that Ronald would do everything in his power to make sure that Ronald Junior was loved and protected.

My very own personal opinion of Ronald Cummings is that he has not grown up................and thinks too much of himself and not others.

[Diamond1]

Leave it to Misty to hit on a good stock while the rest of us are clipping coupons.

Life's not fair, I tell ya!

I bet Misty is thinking life is not fair after her first night in jail. People like Misty and Ronald never accept responsibility for their actions and always blame someone else.
MO

[Dunlurken]

PHOTO GALLERY - ARRAIGNMENT ROOM

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/Photo.aspx?slideshow=01d8efa6-194c-4e4f-adec-82719a4524fa&photo=498cac60-1f3b-4a0d-9cb2-1178c0842cd7

WOW! The Photo of Donna is really GOOD! JMO. Love that one. Thanks for the link Lynnie.

[VivaViva]

Haleigh is whispering to us ALL. Can you hear what she is saying?

Things were not as you were told. THAT is what Haleigh is saying.
Please Find me, things were bad, no one helped me....please.
Don't believe them, I was hurt. This is what Haleigh is whispering to us all.

LE is listening. I'm listening.

:rose:


:crying:

I just want to cry-

[Dunlurken]

Thanks Lynn.

Misty sure looks unhappy. I hope it is sinking in to her how she could go away for a long time.

She was due for jail time. JMO.

[just4justice]

Now begins the plea bargaining phase. I can hardly wait to see how that plays out. I'm still curious about Ron and the *HOLD*. Is it possible that we have jumped the gun here and have wrongly accused him? As a father, maybe he was willing to do whatever it might take to find out what happened to his little girl. I hope that's the case.

[Diamond1]

Now begins the plea bargaining phase. I can hardly wait to see how that plays out. I'm still curious about Ron and the *HOLD*. Is it possible that we have jumped the gun here and have wrongly accused him? As a father, maybe he was willing to do whatever it might take to find out what happened to his little girl. I hope that's the case.

No, it is not possible. Ronald Cummings has been charged.

[Dunlurken]

Now begins the plea bargaining phase. I can hardly wait to see how that plays out. I'm still curious about Ron and the *HOLD*. Is it possible that we have jumped the gun here and have wrongly accused him? As a father, maybe he was willing to do whatever it might take to find out what happened to his little girl. I hope that's the case.

It's not. Don't get your hopes up too high. I'm waiting to see pictures of his arraignment. JMO. Then I will sleep well.

[Tia]

Now begins the plea bargaining phase. I can hardly wait to see how that plays out. I'm still curious about Ron and the *HOLD*. Is it possible that we have jumped the gun here and have wrongly accused him? As a father, maybe he was willing to do whatever it might take to find out what happened to his little girl. I hope that's the case.

So some here are speculating that he went along with Misty and the others to try to get to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh?

[VivaViva]

Now begins the plea bargaining phase. I can hardly wait to see how that plays out. I'm still curious about Ron and the *HOLD*. Is it possible that we have jumped the gun here and have wrongly accused him? As a father, maybe he was willing to do whatever it might take to find out what happened to his little girl. I hope that's the case.

I thought a hold meant that the inmate has pending federal charges and the Marshal Service has placed a hold on him so that he can't be released? And he sold or bought drugs 7 times to undercover cops- how is that finding HaLeigh?

[HouseOfClark]

I take back anything I ever said negative about PC's investigation. How wise of them to wait till Misty turned adult. (18).

I wonder how the inmates will fare sitting in jail without their drugs.

I won't go that far yet.

However, any operation that results in simultaneous arrests in different counties gets an "A" for organizational skills.

I'm impressed!

[datacop]

Hi, Lynn. I wonder how recent that NY trip was.

Do you think it's a different one than we all knew about?

[datacop]

I wasn't really referring to the pipe though... Sorry IMO one is no better then the other and I only need my eyes to see that. Junior needs to be where there are NO drugs period. It's to the point where it's not about sides data..

As far as I know the pipe is the only reference by LE.

[Peaches]

Leave it to Misty to hit on a good stock while the rest of us are clipping coupons.

Life's not fair, I tell ya!


HOC.............this truly made me LOL

[datacop]

Very interesting Lynn..and a big Ty for the links you have provided..and to everyone else..
I wonder if Crystal will attend the emergency custody hearing for Jr..?

I will be disappointed in her if she doesn't. And there, I've said it.

[HouseOfClark]

So some here are speculating that he went along with Misty and the others to try to get to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh?

Because a marriage just didn't do the trick?

[CatToy]

Leave it to Misty to hit on a good stock while the rest of us are clipping coupons.

Life's not fair, I tell ya!

Did she just use the word Squirrel? On this Case too?
:eek:

HOC it's sad....that this is how it had to happen for them to get at the truth, but I hope that LE leans on them in the next few days, and badly.

Haleigh had no one to stick up for her. She has had no one in the year that passing, to say FIND ME! HELP ME!
Instead people have been supporting the two people in the home that whatever happened to her, happened. When a parent, is INSISTENT
That their child was TAKEN by SOMEONE.....out of their bed...at night..
and they insist on that, Truly...look at that. What parent would do that? What normal person, would try to make the world be convinced of something like that? Instead of oh wow, maybe she got out of the home, fell in the river. NO that is not what this father, is leading you all to believe. HE wanted badly from the 911 call fwd for you ALL
to believe him, that someone took his baby out of her bed.
Left the little boy, and misty, but just took her. IT's as ridiculous as Avion's father's statement in VA to me. You all need to look at his behavior in this case. Because it's been highly abnormal and suspect.
From the get go.

It always has been.

Justice for Haleigh, I say. Let the truth come out. Haleigh was not in a safe home or environment. If she had been, we would not all be here, screaming for the truth to come out. Because she cannot scream any more. She cannot smile or laugh any more. I believe that she is dead. TM believes she is dead. I think LE believes this as well at this point. Time is on Haleighs side though. We have all the time in the world to figure out what really happened. I doubt this is a case where someone has stashed this baby away, as the circumstances do not warrant this nor do the facts in the case. Something awful happened to Haleigh.
She was a special needs child, just like Avieon. Just like so many others, that parents take out. And about 75% are cases when the child is disabled in some way. She was a bed wetter.

I think for misty, she was a problem. Then Ronald Married Misty.
I can see exactly where his loyalties lie, and they were not with
his child.
Not IMO.

[Diamond1]

I will be disappointed in her if she doesn't. And there, I've said it.

Is there any news on the emergency custody hearing yet?

[Texas48]

Honestly, I dont care about TN, my heart does go out to her right now because not only has she lost her grandaughter, she is going to lose her son for a minimum of 25 years, IF, he is convicted- right now I am walking away from talking about TN, because in hindsight she does not matter- I want Misty to talk and tell what happened to HaLEigh- thats all that matters to me- Misty is looking at 25 years and I am praying and hoping she talks-BBM
TY for that statement Viva....and I do know those words come from your heart..

[HouseOfClark]

I will be disappointed in her if she doesn't. And there, I've said it.

I will be too.

Right now I'm in shock, I can only imagine how she feels.

IF any hearing is requested, would we find out about it if it concerns a minor child? I mean, just because TN expects it, doesn't mean that one's been requested or scheduled.

JMO

[Dunlurken]

What is Ron's bail? I'll betcha TN will pay it. JMO.

[Tia]

Because a marriage just didn't do the trick?

:biggrin:

..............

[datacop]

It had always been my belief that families should stick together.
That was before Haleigh Cummings.

He should be removed from that state. All parental ties should be severed and he should be put up for a closed adoption to a loving home with two parents who can and will provide him with much counseling, love, support and more importantly, safety.

JR doesn't have a chance in Satsuma. Even if he stays with GGMS, he is still in the middle of this mess. Imagine when this child goes to school, he will always be pointed at, talked about, ridiculed. KIDS are cruel!!

He is still young and still has a chance at a normal life, something his sister will never experience.

JMO

Unfortunately there are too many children in similar situations.

[Elle]

Who would even initiate that hearing?

Wouldn't Crystal have to, since she is the only parent free?

Otherwise, wouldn't JR stay where he is, with GGMS?

The only one with any rights (legally, at this point) is Crystal.

Could the DCF?

[CatToy]

Because a marriage just didn't do the trick?

I will never believe that. Although I'm sure RC loves that some think this.
His behavior on the tapes just after Haleighs case broke, needs to be examined; by those who are here supporting him.

None of it has ever rang true with me. From the get go.

I would have given my left arm, had he done something to redeem himself, for his daughters sake but I'm sorry I just never saw it.

I saw manipulation, of the press and media, of LE and of the public.
By all involved in this case....that were close to Haleigh.

[4Kids]

What is Ron's bail? I'll betcha TN will pay it. JMO.

Currently, Ron has not bail listed, no charges listed, no arresting authority listed and no inmate number. He is listed only as a "hold". Initially, before the "move" last night, he was listed at 500K. So your guess is as good as mine. IMO

[CatToy]

Could the DCF? Elle I do think that he could be put in foster care at this point, if Crystal does not step fwd to claim him.

[Dunlurken]

Who would even initiate that hearing?

Wouldn't Crystal have to, since she is the only parent free?

Otherwise, wouldn't JR stay where he is, with GGMS?

The only one with any rights (legally, at this point) is Crystal.Correct. She's the biological mom. Grand parents have no rights unless Ron was "expecting" this (snicker); but when you're in jail, guess what.... You don't have any rights either. Where is JR now? Does TN have him or the great grandma? I've forgotten at this point. JMO.
CPS where are you?

[VivaViva]

Elle I do think that he could be put in foster care at this point, if Crystal does not step fwd to claim him.

I totally agree with this-

[Dunlurken]

Currently, Ron has not bail listed, no charges listed, no arresting authority listed and no inmate number. He is listed only as a "hold". Initially, before the "move" last night, he was listed at 500K. So your guess is as good as mine. IMO

Interesting. Thanks. JMO. I won't speculate. :biggrin:

[Texas48]

He could face a 25-year mandatory sentence for this mess.

Remember Haylee Donathan's case from last year? (Ohio, found in CA) This month a judge terminated all parental rights and let Haylee live with a foster family that she has come to love and who plan to try to adopt her.

I hope that something like this can happen to Junior.



As for those who believed in Ron, I understand. I believed in Joran, and look how that turned out.BBM
Morning Amnda..I hope whatever the outcome of this mess is that Jr. will also have a *future* in a loving and stable home..IF Crystal really wants this baby I hope and pray she will fight for her chance and at the same time I hope she realizes that all these kids deserve a decent healthy life..and *IF* she needs to make changes in her lifestyle then she will make every effort to do just that. Thats all we can hope for and then stand back and see where all the pieces will fall...jmo of course.

[HenLee]

Suprised, Misty says *she can afford a lawyer* to the judge. Where is she getting the money?
:ohmy::huh:

[HouseOfClark]

Who would even initiate that hearing?

Wouldn't Crystal have to, since she is the only parent free?

Otherwise, wouldn't JR stay where he is, with GGMS?

The only one with any rights (legally, at this point) is Crystal.

She would have to initiate it, or have her attorney do it for her.

Otherwise, he stays put I would think.

Or she could contact GGS or TN and just let them know she is picking him up until everything is settled and not involve the courts?

JMO

[Texas48]

I don't know. It's my understanding that Ron and Misty were taken into custody together at the same time, right after the "purchase" of "trafficking amounts". The others were arrested in different counties.

But don't quote me on it. Somebody had a break down over at WS where everyone was at the time of their arrest.
Did Lynn put the link for the breakdown here on our board??I'll check.

[Scampi]

great, isn't it Scamp?:)


Sure is Mel and now Jr can be with Crystal, where he and Haleigh should always have been, imo.

[Texas48]

I ALWAYS knew that LE was going to let them feel comfy and let them think they are their friends and under the radar, I lost hope, but there has always been a plan for these two- Right now I am satisfied they could sit in jail for 25 years, even if it isnt HaLeigh related- the Lord works in mysterious ways- the cops had to do this, this way, no way were any of them going to talk without something major going on- this is major- does misty love Ron enough to go away for 25 years? I doubt it-BBM
Your so right again Viva..and even ifs it not HaLeigh related.....LE got drugs off the streets...and thats a good thing.

[datacop]

Ronald and Misty Cummings divorced in October, but investigators say they have been on their tails for the last month watching them run a drug operation, even selling prescription drugs oxycodone and hydrocodone to undercover deputies.

http://www.wftv.com/news/22299764/detail.html


So the night of the road rage wasn't their only time together -- probably means she wasn't picking up her "stuff" from ggms -- or maybe she just didn't say what "stuff"

[AmndaRcknwth]

Haleigh Cummings case archive album:
http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Haleigh%20Cummings/

Updated as often as possible.

[Elle]

I have to leave but wanted to thank you for your responses. Prayers for Jr. BBL
:rose: Haleigh

[mrsmcgoo]

Now begins the plea bargaining phase. I can hardly wait to see how that plays out. I'm still curious about Ron and the *HOLD*. Is it possible that we have jumped the gun here and have wrongly accused him? As a father, maybe he was willing to do whatever it might take to find out what happened to his little girl. I hope that's the case.

I wonder also about this. Maybe they have more charges on him? Not sure but that smirk on his face in those arrest pics could actually mean something.

JMO

[Texas48]

there is no credible info about RC being an undercover drug dealer...pure rumor, speculation
I don't believe that poster was starting a rumor..I didn't take it that way but thats just MO..and maybe that was the posters..opinion/thoughts.

[4Kids]

Okay...we see arraignments of the three in St. John...but were are the arraignments for Ron and Hope? Anyone have any info? Any updated charge info on Ron? IMO

[VivaViva]

BBM
Your so right again Viva..and even ifs it not HaLeigh related.....LE got drugs off the streets...and thats a good thing.

And you know, they are going to be convicted of this, the cops have more than enough- do you know even if the Judge wanted to, he couldnt sentence them to less than 25 years? Doesnt that just blow your mind!

[HouseOfClark]

So the night of the road rage wasn't their only time together -- probably means she wasn't picking up her "stuff" from ggms -- or maybe she just didn't say what "stuff"

Guess we never asked?

[datacop]

Suprised, Misty says *she can afford a lawyer* to the judge. Where is she getting the money?


Interesting to say the least.

And 4 months ... about the time of the divorce ... however, I don't think that's when it started.

[whitney]

She would have to initiate it, or have her attorney do it for her.

Otherwise, he stays put I would think.

Or she could contact GGS or TN and just let them know she is picking him up until everything is settled and not involve the courts?

JMO
Somehow I think that is why the Sheffield side has been so quiet, they may have been advised by LE of something about to happen. Hopefully Crystal would get JR and get him out of that mess. No way that GGMS and TN didn't know they were dealing and that Ronald was around Misty again. Crystal may have had problems in the past but no where near this. She is his mother and Jr needs to be with her. JMO

[Debb]

I will never believe that. Although I'm sure RC loves that some think this.
His behavior on the tapes just after Haleighs case broke, needs to be examined; by those who are here supporting him.

None of it has ever rang true with me. From the get go.

I would have given my left arm, had he done something to redeem himself, for his daughters sake but I'm sorry I just never saw it.

I saw manipulation, of the press and media, of LE and of the public.
By all involved in this case....that were close to Haleigh.

ITA Cattoy. I have always thought this and wondered about him, even thought no one else seems to have any suspicion about him. Everyone from LE, NG, guests of NG, all feel he is totally innocent. I think he passed a polygraph. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I just always thought something was off with him. I'm glad I"m not alone.

Oh, why is he smiling like he's at a family portrait studio in his mug shot? That's odd.

[datacop]

I'm sorry, but why does that make me laugh? :biggrin: No more showing her diamond engagement ring? Poor Her!

I like scrapbooking but doubt she'll be doing that with her latest photos.

[Diamond1]

ITA Cattoy. I have always thought this and wondered about him, even thought no one else seems to have any suspicion about him. Everyone from LE, NG, guests of NG, all feel he is totally innocent. I think he passed a polygraph. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I just always thought something was off with him. I'm glad I"m not alone.

Oh, why is he smiling like he's at a family portrait studio in his mug shot? That's odd.

He looked like he was high in that mug shot. Hopefully this morning after a night in jail he is facing reality.

[VivaViva]

ITA Cattoy. I have always thought this and wondered about him, even thought no one else seems to have any suspicion about him. Everyone from LE, NG, guests of NG, all feel he is totally innocent. I think he passed a polygraph. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I just always thought something was off with him. I'm glad I"m not alone.

Oh, why is he smiling like he's at a family portrait studio in his mug shot? That's odd.

I have always suspected him- and yes, that mug shot is disgusting, I want to shake him and be like, THIS ISNT FUNNY- but then I take into account hes probably high as a kite- Miss Nancy is going to shred him, IF she covers this again-

[Texas48]

course they will...just because someone doesn't show up here on a daily basis to make a comment hoping Haleigh comes home, or lites a candle, doesn't make them any less, what you call, a "diehard"....
Didn't mean it that way Mel...the term *die-hard* goes back a ways..I see no need to be snippy right about now..and I appreciate the *ones* that took the time to make comments and light candles..FWIW..

[VivaViva]

And it looks like she is!!!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

[Diamond1]

And it looks like she is!!!

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

I look forward to hearing what she has to say now.

[VivaViva]

Is that really true, Viva?

I am not sure that mandatory means just that.

I know it doesn't in my state, as I have witnessed it first hand.

4 people arrested and charged with the same crime, yet the only one to do jail time was the one on probation.... seriously, it pissed me off. I thought mandatory, meant mandatory, but it didn't here.

http://www.thelawman.net/PracticeAreas/Florida-Drug-Trafficking-Statutes.asp

[Texas48]

No, it was not posted as fact, Cat.

I typed "TN never sold drugs undercover, but Ron did."

I SHOULD have typed "TN never sold drugs TO AN undercover, but Ron did."

I already answered your post once, regarding my typo.

My post had nothing to do with Ron being undercover, it had EVERYTHING to do with not blaming Teresa for Ron's choices in life.

What has to stop is those that jump to conclusions without reading the context of a post.

Sheesh.....now I remember why I stepped away from this mess.BBM
Me and thee..and here I actually believed it would not be that like..

[VivaViva]

Don't you think she will run and re-run that clip of her telling Ron she doesn't believe him?

Of course, and the same old tired snippets she has always run.

I think shes going to run the clip of TN saying the Croslins are a dysfunctional family....

[Dunlurken]

He looked like he was high in that mug shot. Hopefully this morning after a night in jail he is facing reality.

What mugshot are you talking about? I missed that link, sorry. Ron or Tommy? JMO.

ETA: Oh, I see it.

[Scampi]

So some here are speculating that he went along with Misty and the others to try to get to the bottom of what happened to Haleigh?

Oh, I'm sure that's what he was doing, whoops was that a pig flying by my window? :ohmy:

ronald is and has always been a very bad man, imo. Too bad his children paid the price.



:seeya:

[Diamond1]

Don't you think she will run and re-run that clip of her telling Ron she doesn't believe him?

Of course, and the same old tired snippets she has always run.

She probably will. She also said in that interview that he had not ever lied to her but I bet he did not tell her he was selling drugs so...OH YES he did lie to her.
Ronald Cummings has lied all along about everything.
Now everyone knows how he can afford not to work.
MO

[W_D_1]

Sure is Mel and now Jr can be with Crystal, where he and Haleigh should always have been, imo.

Bolded black by me.....

Around more drugs.....yeah, that's just where he needs to be except this time it'll be crack cocaine. I guess everyone thinking she's mother of the year forget her own attorney admitted to the Bar that Crystal is still using drugs. So much for wanting what's best for Junior.

[Diamond1]

Bolded black by me.....

Around more drugs.....yeah, that's just where he needs to be except this time it'll be crack cocaine. I guess everyone thinking she's mother of the year forget her own attorney admitted to the Bar that Crystal is still using drugs. So much for wanting what's best for Junior.

If Crystal is using and / or selling drugs like Ronald Cummings IS, then she will eventually get caught too. Until then, she is innocent until proven guilty and so far she has not been charged and she is not sitting in jail.
Ronald Cummings has been charged and Ronald Cummings is in JAIL!
JMO

[Dunlurken]

Oh, I'm sure that's what he was doing, whoops was that a pig flying by my window? :ohmy:

ronald is and has always been a very bad man, imo. Too bad his children paid the price.



:seeya:

Haleigh paid the price.

Personally, I think because Mark Lunsford turned to be a good guy, people gave Ron the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, he/Ron let everyone down. JMO.

[VivaViva]

Haleigh paid the price.

Personally, I think because Mark Lunsford turned to be a good guy, people gave Ron the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, he/Ron let everyone down. JMO.

Excellent point-

[whitney]

Bolded black by me.....

Around more drugs.....yeah, that's just where he needs to be except this time it'll be crack cocaine. I guess everyone thinking she's mother of the year forget her own attorney admitted to the Bar that Crystal is still using drugs. So much for wanting what's best for Junior.
What' sbest for any child is to be with a parent, are you suggesting he be in foster care? No one is perfect but Crystal has no record of drug arrests and it is her god given right to have her son. No one was complaining when he was around Misty and Ronald and now we see what they were about.jmo

[Lynn Gweeny]

BREAKING: EXCLUSIVE: MY EYEWITNESS ACCOUNT “DONNA BROCK SUPPLIED ILLEGAL DRUGS TO UNDERAGE MISTY CUMMINGS” AND THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WIRETAPS

This comes as no suprise to me, and it comes on the heals of me notifying law enforcement over 2 weeks ago that Donna Brock, Misty’s “friend” was supplying her with illegal drugs while on a trip to NY and attempting to sell illegally obtained audio tapes she had recorded of her conversations with Misty.

In an Exlusive live interview on Sunday night at 8:00pm on my radio show, You’ll hear from Jacque Hollander, the woman who heard ALL the illegal audio tapes Donna Brock made of Misty Cummings. You won’t believe what Misty Confesses!!!! ONLY on blogtalkradio.com/Watts-Up-With-This

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2010/01/20/breaking-misty-croslin-ronald-cummings-and-donna-brock-arrest-for-drug-trafficking/

[Diamond1]

Haleigh paid the price.

Personally, I think because Mark Lunsford turned to be a good guy, people gave Ron the benefit of the doubt. Unfortunately, he/Ron let everyone down. JMO.

Because Ronald Cummings is a liar. He finally got caught doing what he has been doing all along. And it is about time.

MO

[VivaViva]

Thanks for that.

I guess what I was trying to say is, even if you are sentenced to mandatory time, is that actually what you serve?

All 4 in my case were sentenced to the mandatory 10 years.

Then the judge suspended the sentence and put 3 on probation for the 10 years. The 4th, who was already on probation, was the only one who had to actually serve the 10 year jail sentence. Heck, he even got out early for good behavior........

Florida is really tough, so 25 means 25, but I am not sure if they can get out early, like on parole, serve like 5, then get out, I would imagine, but I really dont know-