1/18 - 1/20

[ellegna]

Good morning :seeya:

Countdown

Pretrial - January 21/10 - 3days
Fraud - January 25/10 - 7 days

[Sun]

By Kathlb --Was she already pretending to go to work when she was in the final stages of pregnancy? I know after Caylee was born she was conning Lauren into babysitting for nothing until Lauren found out no job and she quit there and then since she wasn't going to babysit for nothing while Casey played.

In the Discovery, there are Amscot records showing that Casey cashed her paychecks, so she apppeared to have been working until the Feb/Mar 2006 timeframe. I can't remember the exact dates. But I do recall that Amscot showed her cashing paychecks in Dec 2005, Jan/Feb and maybe March 2006.

[ellegna]

This link breaks down checks wrote/cashed at Amscot in 2008

http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/main-blog-f10/main-blogtue-dec-22nd1-t4350.htm

Casey was sure a busy little beaver :sneaky:

[SandyO]

In the Discovery, there are Amscot records showing that Casey cashed her paychecks, so she apppeared to have been working until the Feb/Mar 2006 timeframe. I can't remember the exact dates. But I do recall that Amscot showed her cashing paychecks in Dec 2005, Jan/Feb and maybe March 2006.

And Caylee wasn't born until August, right?

[Sun]

And Caylee wasn't born until August, right?

August 2005, right.

[cassidy]

This link breaks down checks wrote/cashed at Amscot in 2008

http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/main-blog-f10/main-blogtue-dec-22nd1-t4350.htm

Casey was sure a busy little beaver :sneaky:

You know, it never ceases to amaze me how many time Casey got away with ripping her parents off. How hard is it to hide the checkbook and credit cards? How can Cindy and George complain about something they allowed to happen repeatedly?

[SandyO]

You know, it never ceases to amaze me how many time Casey got away with ripping her parents off. How hard is it to hide the checkbook and credit cards? How can Cindy and George complain about something they allowed to happen repeatedly?

They're hardly even admitting it now. The very idea of stealing from your own baby, though ---- that one really gets me! That is the lowest of the low.

[cassidy]

They're hardly even admitting it now. The very idea of stealing from your own baby, though ---- that one really gets me! That is the lowest of the low.


And no one would have been the wiser if George hadn't squealed on her about stealing from Caylee. He'd probably deny that now :(

JMO

[SandyO]

And no one would have been the wiser if George hadn't squealed on her about stealing from Caylee. He'd probably deny that now :(

JMO

Someone posted a few days ago that Casey is no doubt sitting in her "dorm room" thinking how incredibly stupid her parents are. I have no doubt of that whatsoever.

[cassidy]

Someone posted a few days ago that Casey is no doubt sitting in her "dorm room" thinking how incredibly stupid her parents are. I have no doubt of that whatsoever.


LOL I agree!

[adair]

And no one would have been the wiser if George hadn't squealed on her about stealing from Caylee. He'd probably deny that now :(

JMO


He has in the

morgan deposition...

[Sun]

And no one would have been the wiser if George hadn't squealed on her about stealing from Caylee. He'd probably deny that now :(

JMO

When TLazzaro was wired and chatted with Lee, Lee came right out and said that Casey stole money from everyone. :tonguewag:

[adair]

Is there any hint of a dd coming........we need one.

[Sun]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18008819/detail.html

When I look through a very early copy of the State's Witness List, I notice a few OCSO employees names. One for instance, is Awilda McBryde. I believe this is a person that Cindy had early contact with, and probably talked with quite a bit during July 2008. I'm not sure if I can ever remember seeing a written statement or report in the Discovery from her. Does anyone remember this person or a written statement from her? Would there have to be one included in the Discovery, if she is to testify? Or could her statements come as a complete surprise to the defense at trial if they don't bother to depose her?

[adair]

He has in the

morgan deposition...


Hate to quote myself....but ga said he had no knowledge of kc stealing....not from the piggy bank. Just for clarity.

[Sun]

Is there any hint of a dd coming........we need one.

Judge Strickland did order the defense to submit some stuff by Feb 1.... and if the defense does this, we should eventually get to see it, I'm guessing. Probably not the kind of Doc Dump that we are used to seeing though.

[SandyO]

When TLazzaro was wired and chatted with Lee, Lee came right out and said that Casey stole money from everyone. :tonguewag:

Including himself and his roommate. That's why I believe Lee must have warned Mallory about Casey at some point, and I wonder if Mallory mentions anything like this in her depo. Not that it has anything to do with Caylee's murder, however. A person could have the stickiest fingers in the world and still not be a murderer.

[Sun]

Hate to quote myself....but ga said he had no knowledge of kc stealing....not from the piggy bank. Just for clarity.

I've always thought that George was wrong in stating that Casey stole from Caylee's piggybank. And, thought it a bit odd that he said that "he put" money into the piggybank (don't children like to do this fun task?) If it was Caylee's piggybank, then she should have been the one to put money in, and have some say in when to take it out or what to spend it on? Maybe Casey did remove the money from the piggybank, but used it to purchase things for Caylee? :confused:

[SandyO]

I've always thought that George was wrong in stating that Casey stole from Caylee's piggybank. And, thought it a bit odd that he said that "he put" money into the piggybank (don't children like to do this fun task?) If it was Caylee's piggybank, then she should have been the one to put money in, and have some say in when to take it out or what to spend it on? Maybe Casey did remove the money from the piggybank, but used it to purchase things for Caylee? :confused:

Dream on, Sun!

[Ladygator]

You know, it never ceases to amaze me how many time Casey got away with ripping her parents off. How hard is it to hide the checkbook and credit cards? How can Cindy and George complain about something they allowed to happen repeatedly?

I believe George was getting tired of the things Casey was doing. He just didn't have any say in the matter. Like when he went to Sport's Authority and told Cindy that Casey wasn't working there. He was put in his place hammer to not create problems. Poor Casey would be furious that her daddy was spying on her.

Checkbook, credit cards, and cash - those where things Cindy was in control of.

All George had was his domain of manly stuff. His shed which housed his precious gas cans and IMO, he locked that shed to prevent Casey from stealing his gas. He was pushing back. In his own way.

[bballgrl]

I've always thought that George was wrong in stating that Casey stole from Caylee's piggybank. And, thought it a bit odd that he said that "he put" money into the piggybank (don't children like to do this fun task?) If it was Caylee's piggybank, then she should have been the one to put money in, and have some say in when to take it out or what to spend it on? Maybe Casey did remove the money from the piggybank, but used it to purchase things for Caylee? :confused:


The piggy bank thing never upset me, just the College Fund issue.
I have taken money from my children MANY times (as a matter of fact I owe them each $150 now and we will be paying them back with taxes) But I have never and WILL never, take any money out of their college funds. They do not have much in there at this time (about $2000 each), but that is money set aside for them by their grandparents for their college education.
The money from Piggy bank, is no big thing to me. I have done that for years... Ptobably with the difference that I always pay it back :tongueside:

[sydney]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18008819/detail.html

When I look through a very early copy of the State's Witness List, I notice a few OCSO employees names. One for instance, is Awilda McBryde. I believe this is a person that Cindy had early contact with, and probably talked with quite a bit during July 2008. I'm not sure if I can ever remember seeing a written statement or report in the Discovery from her. Does anyone remember this person or a written statement from her? Would there have to be one included in the Discovery, if she is to testify? Or could her statements come as a complete surprise to the defense at trial if they don't bother to depose her?

This is what i found out about Awilds McBryde:

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/whos-who/

"McBryde, Awilda – Missing Persons Investigator who obtained Jesse Grund’s sworn statement. Along with Kari Roderick, obtained sworn statement from the Zenaida Gonzalez identified through Sawgrass Apartments. Zenaida was shown picture of both Casey and Caylee Anthony."

not sure if she gave a statement or not, though.....

[ellegna]

I've always thought that George was wrong in stating that Casey stole from Caylee's piggybank. And, thought it a bit odd that he said that "he put" money into the piggybank (don't children like to do this fun task?) If it was Caylee's piggybank, then she should have been the one to put money in, and have some say in when to take it out or what to spend it on? Maybe Casey did remove the money from the piggybank, but used it to purchase things for Caylee? :confused:

IMO. If Casey took from Caylee, it was for Casey.

I don't find it odd GA put money in. My parents did.
When I was little, my parents gave me their loose change to put in my piggy bank. That was fun. I had a clear glass piggy bank and got great delight finding bills inside. I was told fairies came at night and put them in because I was a good girl that day. :tonguewag:

[sydney]

this article says baez took awilda's deposition:

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m4d4-Video--Jim-Hoover-talks-candidly-to-media-as-depositions-in-Casey-Anthony-case-continue

wonder if we'll ever see it

[cassidy]

I believe George was getting tired of the things Casey was doing. He just didn't have any say in the matter. Like when he went to Sport's Authority and told Cindy that Casey wasn't working there. He was put in his place hammer to not create problems. Poor Casey would be furious that her daddy was spying on her.

Checkbook, credit cards, and cash - those where things Cindy was in control of.

All George had was his domain of manly stuff. His shed which housed his precious gas cans and IMO, he locked that shed to prevent Casey from stealing his gas. He was pushing back. In his own way.

Possibly. Reporting the gas stolen could have been his way of trying to stop Casey without the consequences being too severe. But he had to know that LE wasn't going to put that theft high on it's priority list of crimes to solve. :shrug: When the stakes got higher, he let Cindy remove his backbone again.

JMO

[cassidy]

I've always thought that George was wrong in stating that Casey stole from Caylee's piggybank. And, thought it a bit odd that he said that "he put" money into the piggybank (don't children like to do this fun task?) If it was Caylee's piggybank, then she should have been the one to put money in, and have some say in when to take it out or what to spend it on? Maybe Casey did remove the money from the piggybank, but used it to purchase things for Caylee? :confused:

Surely you jest! Casey?? Buy things for Caylee? If Casey took that money she took it to party with IMO

[Sun]

this article says baez took awilda's deposition:

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m4d4-Video--Jim-Hoover-talks-candidly-to-media-as-depositions-in-Casey-Anthony-case-continue

wonder if we'll ever see it

Oh my! Thanks so much for finding and posting this link! So Baez did depose Awilda back in early April 2009, and has never filed the deposition with the court. Guess he could be waiting until just before the trial starts to file it, or maybe the defense isn't required to do this?

[Sun]

Surely you jest! Casey?? Buy things for Caylee? If Casey took that money she took it to party with IMO


Ok, I had a weak moment. What was I thinking!? I sometimes forget that I can't apply my own logical thinking to any of the Anthonys. :blushing:

[witchywoman]

IMO. If Casey took from Caylee, it was for Casey.

I don't find it odd GA put money in. My parents did.
When I was little, my parents gave me their loose change to put in my piggy bank. That was fun. I had a clear glass piggy bank and got great delight finding bills inside. I was told fairies came at night and put them in because I was a good girl that day. :tonguewag:

jmo, what a precious thing your parents did for you and your piggy bank

eta, hi everyone, just wanna say thank you to everyone for posting links and keeping me in the know as im still following along wiht all of you

[cassidy]

Ok, I had a weak moment. What was I thinking!? I sometimes forget that I can't apply my own logical thinking to any of the Anthonys. :blushing:

It's OK. We've all (well ok MOST of us) been guilty of that at least once.
:)

[sydney]

Oh my! Thanks so much for finding and posting this link! So Baez did depose Awilda back in early April 2009, and has never filed the deposition with the court. Guess he could be waiting until just before the trial starts to file it, or maybe the defense isn't required to do this?

not sure, sun. i keep thinking "reciprocal discovery" which so far, has only been one-sided because the duhfense hasn't provided anything to the prosecution as far as i know.

[sydney]

Possibly. Reporting the gas stolen could have been his way of trying to stop Casey without the consequences being too severe. But he had to know that LE wasn't going to put that theft high on it's priority list of crimes to solve. :shrug: When the stakes got higher, he let Cindy remove his backbone again.

JMO

iirc, le said that they wouldn't do anything because the value of the stolen cans was under $100. george, being ex-le, should have known this, right? or are thefts under $100 investigated in ohio?

good heavens - NEVER confront kc yourself. get someone to *really* scare her to do it (like le) :tonguewag: that way, she can't hate YOU for calling her to task.....

[onlykaty]

jmo, what a precious thing your parents did for you and your piggy bank

eta, hi everyone, just wanna say thank you to everyone for posting links and keeping me in the know as im still following along wiht all of you

Same here, don't always post much right now as things are pretty much at a stand still til the fraud charges come up. I always read though, because I don't want to miss anything. If it happens it will show up here!. Thanks to all. :smile:

[Sun]

Same here, don't always post much right now as things are pretty much at a stand still til the fraud charges come up. I always read though, because I don't want to miss anything. If it happens it will show up here!. Thanks to all. :smile:

I'm guessing that the defense may have been a bit busy lately, mostly because I really think that Casey will change her plea sometime this week on the criminal check/fraud charges, rather than sit through an entire trial and listen to the Jury pronounce her GUILTY. ...shucks, maybe I'm wrong on this thinking though. :sneaky:

[oswald]

This link breaks down checks wrote/cashed at Amscot in 2008

http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/main-blog-f10/main-blogtue-dec-22nd1-t4350.htm

Casey was sure a busy little beaver :sneaky:

Good morning all - happy MLK day - does anyone have the day off?

Well this link was interesting to read - even tho I knew of mulitple checks being cashed off of Cindy's account, the $354 for the phone bill, was that the money that the big fight on Father's Day was about?

[oswald]

Hate to quote myself....but ga said he had no knowledge of kc stealing....not from the piggy bank. Just for clarity.

Thats true - he said it, and was really ticked off that they even brought it up EVEN tho it directly contridicts what he said to the FBI and LE

[oswald]

Good morning :seeya:

Countdown

Pretrial - January 21/10 - 3days
Fraud - January 25/10 - 7 days

I'm looking forward to pre-trial - I'm thinking it will take most the day - I'm iffy about the fraud trial - is she REALLY not going to plea? THIS I just don't understand

I'm guessing the defense won't cop a plea cause then she won't go into the murder trial as a felon

[Tia]

This link breaks down checks wrote/cashed at Amscot in 2008

http://justice4caylee.forumotion.net/main-blog-f10/main-blogtue-dec-22nd1-t4350.htm

Casey was sure a busy little beaver :sneaky:

Wow.
Thanks for that link.
Amazing how much she stole!!!

[onlykaty]

I'm guessing that the defense may have been a bit busy lately, mostly because I really think that Casey will change her plea sometime this week on the criminal check/fraud charges, rather than sit through an entire trial and listen to the Jury pronounce her GUILTY. ...shucks, maybe I'm wrong on this thinking though. :sneaky:

I don't think wrong, thats what I have been thinking also. I look for her to plea to contest.."shrugs" jmo

[denjet]

Judge Strickland did order the defense to submit some stuff by Feb 1.... and if the defense does this, we should eventually get to see it, I'm guessing. Probably not the kind of Doc Dump that we are used to seeing though.
Morning Folks!"
Hi Sun!
I'm wondering too what's included in the evidence Strickland said to turn over to the state. It includes evidence of someone else being responsible for Caylee's murder, but I'm wondering if it includes an updated witness list, statements from witnesses that he has not turned over yet to the state and any other evidence the defense has been sitting on ... whatever it is, Baez and Lyon will wait until the last minute as always ... I'm also wondering if this will be brought up at the hearing Thursday?

Also, does anyone know what will happen if Lyon is a no-show Thursday? Can the judge force Baez to take over ? Lyon has a book signing at a Barnes and Noble in Chicago the day before at 6 pm ... Just wondering how she's going to be in Orlando at 10 am the next day ??
There's been no unavailability doc filed with the clerk ... her scheduled book signings which must have been done well AFTER the court date was scheduled ...

(maybe she'll get on her majic broom?) :biggrin:

[oswald]

I don't think the defense has much - if you remember AFTER they were ordered to do this, and after that pre-trial hearing about this exonerating evidence, Lyons and Baez came back in the press saying that they don't have evidence of this, this is how they are reading the states evidence that has been presented

I think we'll be sorely disappointed when this is released, if it's released

Morning Folks!"
Hi Sun!
I'm wondering too what's included in the evidence Strickland said to turn over to the state. It includes evidence of someone else being responsible for Caylee's murder, but I'm wondering if it includes an updated witness list, statements from witnesses that he has not turned over yet to the state and any other evidence the defense has been sitting on ... whatever it is, Baez and Lyon will wait until the last minute as always ... I'm also wondering if this will be brought up at the hearing Thursday?

Also, does anyone know what will happen if Lyon is a no-show Thursday? Can the judge force Baez to take over ? Lyon has a book signing at a Barnes and Noble in Chicago the day before at 6 pm ... Just wondering how she's going to be in Orlando at 10 am the next day ??
There's been no unavailability doc filed with the clerk ... her scheduled book signings which must have been done well AFTER the court date was scheduled ...

(maybe she'll get on her majic broom?) :biggrin:

[Surreyduo]

Casey Anthony’s Check Fraud Trial Delayed
Monday, January 18, 2010 11:23:04 AM


According to sources, a court hearing connected to Anthony's murder case scheduled for this week also will not take place.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/1/18/casey_anthonys_check_fraud_case_delayed.html

[onlykaty]

I don't think wrong, thats what I have been thinking also. I look for her to plea to contest.."shrugs" jmo

oops I meant to say NO contest. waited to long for edit..:(

[court~critic1®]

IMO I don't believe that Lyon has to be there. As it is mostly setting dates,times for trial and etc. Now on 5 Feb. is another story. That is the date the defense has to produce their goods.

safe one all!

[Sun]

Morning Folks!"
Hi Sun!
I'm wondering too what's included in the evidence Strickland said to turn over to the state. It includes evidence of someone else being responsible for Caylee's murder, but I'm wondering if it includes an updated witness list, statements from witnesses that he has not turned over yet to the state and any other evidence the defense has been sitting on ... whatever it is, Baez and Lyon will wait until the last minute as always ... I'm also wondering if this will be brought up at the hearing Thursday?

-snip-

WHEREFORE, the State of Florida respectfully requests that this Honorable Court conduct a hearing on this matter, or alternatively, order the defendant to immediately turn over any and all evidence to include the names and addresses of witnesses, any statements or reports generated by those witnesses, and any tangible papers or objects to be used at hearing or trial that supports their heretofore unsubstantiated claim that Caylee Marie Anthony's remains were deposited on Suburban Drive while Casey Anthony was incarcerated.

Motion to Compel Reciprocal Discovery
State's Motion (9/10/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html
Defense's Response (9/17/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20972653/detail.html

I didn't find a link to the Judge's ruling, but here are links to the State's Motion and the defense's response.

[denjet]

iirc, le said that they wouldn't do anything because the value of the stolen cans was under $100. george, being ex-le, should have known this, right? or are thefts under $100 investigated in ohio?

good heavens - NEVER confront kc yourself. get someone to *really* scare her to do it (like le) :tonguewag: that way, she can't hate YOU for calling her to task.....

I have a theory on why George even reported it ... you have to in order to put in an insurance claim for damage to the shed ... even so, a deductible would have to be paid, but maybe George was trying to get a new shed out of the deal?
I'm sure he knew WHO took it and didn't tell the police he thought his daughter took it ... that came out later in statements he made to LE
IIRC

[oswald]

I just put out the biggest UGH when I read this - well we were expecting it but still

MAYBE just maybe she'll plea???


Casey Anthony’s Check Fraud Trial Delayed
Monday, January 18, 2010 11:23:04 AM


According to sources, a court hearing connected to Anthony's murder case scheduled for this week also will not take place.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/1/18/casey_anthonys_check_fraud_case_delayed.html

[onlykaty]

Casey Anthony’s Check Fraud Trial Delayed
Monday, January 18, 2010 11:23:04 AM


According to sources, a court hearing connected to Anthony's murder case scheduled for this week also will not take place.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/1/18/casey_anthonys_check_fraud_case_delayed.html


Judge S. needs to take charge of these postponements, if this is really true. The defense will never be ready, nor will they ever try and be. They are busy writing books, making tv appearences and showing their ignorance. I'm so disgusted!...:sneaky:

[denjet]

I don't think the defense has much - if you remember AFTER they were ordered to do this, and after that pre-trial hearing about this exonerating evidence, Lyons and Baez came back in the press saying that they don't have evidence of this, this is how they are reading the states evidence that has been presented

I think we'll be sorely disappointed when this is released, if it's released

I'm wondering if it will be mentioned in court Thursday ... and if the defense will admit they don't have anything or they were "mistaken" ...

[Sun]

Casey Anthony’s Check Fraud Trial Delayed
Monday, January 18, 2010 11:23:04 AM


According to sources, a court hearing connected to Anthony's murder case scheduled for this week also will not take place.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/1/18/casey_anthonys_check_fraud_case_delayed.html

Nooooo!! I guess that I should have expected this. The defense is delaying, yet again it seems. :thumbdown:

[trich]

That really pisses me off.
I am amazed at how the defense is allowed to
postpone everything because they aparrantly
can not do their jobs properly.
This really sucks......wonder if the defense thinks
this will just go away if they can keep on coming
up with reasons to postpone .
When is it going to stop?
I am really annoyed.

[sydney]

I have a theory on why George even reported it ... you have to in order to put in an insurance claim for damage to the shed ... even so, a deductible would have to be paid, but maybe George was trying to get a new shed out of the deal?
I'm sure he knew WHO took it and didn't tell the police he thought his daughter took it ... that came out later in statements he made to LE
IIRC

you could be right. these folks are aaaallllll about the money. i still stick to my guns on saying that the reason cindy called 911 is because getting the car out of the impound cost them money - no other reason.

[denjet]

Casey Anthony’s Check Fraud Trial Delayed
Monday, January 18, 2010 11:23:04 AM


According to sources, a court hearing connected to Anthony's murder case scheduled for this week also will not take place.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/1/18/casey_anthonys_check_fraud_case_delayed.html

WTH? A plea would explain the fraud one but the pretrial Thursday too? I hope the sources are wrong ! :cursing:

ETA: I just realized is said delayed not cancelled ... again WTH?

[Sun]

I just put out the biggest UGH when I read this - well we were expecting it but still

MAYBE just maybe she'll plea???

My first thought was arghhhhh!!! My second one was that if it's being reported that the Criminal check/fraud trial will not happen on Jan 25th, then Casey is changing her plea. I need to find the link to the last court hearing, when Judge Strickland stated that rather firmly that the trial would begin on January 25th. Can't remember his exact words.

[court~critic1®]

Casey Anthony’s Check Fraud Trial Delayed
Monday, January 18, 2010 11:23:04 AM


According to sources, a court hearing connected to Anthony's murder case scheduled for this week also will not take place.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/1/18/casey_anthonys_check_fraud_case_delayed.html



I wonder just who are their "sources"??

Has anyone seen where anything as been filed to delay this trial?? OR has Miss Anthony coped a plea?

Interesting, to say the least.

[oswald]

I'm wondering if it will be mentioned in court Thursday ... and if the defense will admit they don't have anything or they were "mistaken" ...

I seriously doubt the defense will say they have nothing - that will look horrible - and they'll never say they were mistaken

They'll turn over probably garbage, and my guess Baez will still hold back stuff like he's known to do and the state will just spank him bad in court - I can see Lyons just admonishing him, maybe even publicly and sending him to the depths of legal research LOL Nah I don't know - anyways - Lyons and Baez said their experts read the states evidence that proves Casey didn't do it, the defense doesn't have anything to prove it, it's just how they 'read' what the state has given them

Anything is open to interpetation

[denjet]

WHEREFORE, the State of Florida respectfully requests that this Honorable Court conduct a hearing on this matter, or alternatively, order the defendant to immediately turn over any and all evidence to include the names and addresses of witnesses, any statements or reports generated by those witnesses, and any tangible papers or objects to be used at hearing or trial that supports their heretofore unsubstantiated claim that Caylee Marie Anthony's remains were deposited on Suburban Drive while Casey Anthony was incarcerated.

Motion to Compel Reciprocal Discovery
State's Motion (9/10/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20838315/detail.html
Defense's Response (9/17/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20972653/detail.html

I didn't find a link to the Judge's ruling, but here are links to the State's Motion and the defense's response.

Thanks Sun! You're the best! :wink:

[oswald]

My first thought was arghhhhh!!! My second one was that if it's being reported that the Criminal check/fraud trial will not happen on Jan 25th, then Casey is changing her plea. I need to find the link to the last court hearing, when Judge Strickland stated that rather firmly that the trial would begin on January 25th. Can't remember his exact words.

If she pleas she could get time served ONLY thing is that she'll go into the murder trial as a felon and thats what the defense wanted to avoid - prior bad acts will come into the murder trial and the defense does not want that - only thing is that its extremely relative to the murder case

[Sun]

I wonder just who are their "sources"??

Has anyone seen where anything as been filed to delay this trial?? OR has Miss Anthony coped a plea?

Interesting, to say the least.

There is nothing yet entered on the Clerk of Courts records. Though perhaps this old entry might have some bearing.

12/02/2009 Notice of Unavailability
from Attorney Linda Drane Burdick

[*MoonRider*]

Good morning all - happy MLK day - does anyone have the day off?

Well this link was interesting to read - even tho I knew of mulitple checks being cashed off of Cindy's account, the $354 for the phone bill, was that the money that the big fight on Father's Day was about?

The $354 was in April so I don't think that was the reason for the fight. IMO the fight was because Casey spent her first night at Tony's on the 13th of June after partying at Fusion without Caylee. Cindy had Caylee all night on Friday. I'm not sure if Casey came home on Saturday, but we do know that Cindy had Caylee on Sunday, Fathers Day. I think the fight was about Casey not coming home. Cindy had to go back to work on Monday so Casey didn't want to deal with Caylee, she wanted to hang out with Tony, so she took care of the problem. :cursing: moo

[oswald]

The $354 was in April so I don't think that was the reason for the fight. IMO the fight was because Casey spent her first night at Tony's on the 13th of June after partying at Fusion without Caylee. Cindy had Caylee all night on Friday. I'm not sure if Casey came home on Saturday, but we do know that Cindy had Caylee on Sunday, Fathers Day. I think the fight was about Casey not coming home. Cindy had to go back to work on Monday so Casey didn't want to deal with Caylee, she wanted to hang out with Tony, so she took care of the problem. :cursing: moo

But the fight, as it's told, was about Casey stealing from the rest home (which is sooooooooooooo low)

[SandyO]

I'm guessing that the defense may have been a bit busy lately, mostly because I really think that Casey will change her plea sometime this week on the criminal check/fraud charges, rather than sit through an entire trial and listen to the Jury pronounce her GUILTY. ...shucks, maybe I'm wrong on this thinking though. :sneaky:

Well I'm certainly agreeing with you, but we could both be wrong.

[Scampi]

Casey Anthony’s Check Fraud Trial Delayed
Monday, January 18, 2010 11:23:04 AM


According to sources, a court hearing connected to Anthony's murder case scheduled for this week also will not take place.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/1/18/casey_anthonys_check_fraud_case_delayed.html

:cuss:

I want to know why.

[denjet]

I seriously doubt the defense will say they have nothing - that will look horrible - and they'll never say they were mistaken

They'll turn over probably garbage, and my guess Baez will still hold back stuff like he's known to do and the state will just spank him bad in court - I can see Lyons just admonishing him, maybe even publicly and sending him to the depths of legal research LOL Nah I don't know - anyways - Lyons and Baez said their experts read the states evidence that proves Casey didn't do it, the defense doesn't have anything to prove it, it's just how they 'read' what the state has given them

Anything is open to interpetation

I was thinking the state would bring it up that they haven't received anything yet ... just to make a point

[Katprint]

http://www.wftv.com/news/18008819/detail.html

When I look through a very early copy of the State's Witness List, I notice a few OCSO employees names. One for instance, is Awilda McBryde. I believe this is a person that Cindy had early contact with, and probably talked with quite a bit during July 2008. I'm not sure if I can ever remember seeing a written statement or report in the Discovery from her. Does anyone remember this person or a written statement from her? Would there have to be one included in the Discovery, if she is to testify? Or could her statements come as a complete surprise to the defense at trial if they don't bother to depose her?
Part One My prediction how much of the testimony will go:

Cindy's testimony: "Excuse, justify, lie, lie, lie. No, I never said the car smelled like a damned dead body. No, I never said Casey stole anything from anyone. No, I never had any fights with Casey or threatened to take Caylee away from Casey because Casey was a bad mother and a spiteful b!tch. Casey is the Mother of the Year!"

Casey's testimony: *silence* (jabs her eye with her fingernail to produce a tear)

OSCO personnel: "Casey told me #1, #2, #3, #4 and #5. I investigated and determined facts #1-5 were falsehoods. Cindy told me A, B, C, D and E. I investigated and determined facts A-E were falsehoods."

Part Two The defense has the right to take the deposition of every person on the prosecution's witness list. I suspect they already know what these people will say and have not taken their depositions because they either don't want to spend the money (there are alreadu many examples of ridiculous cheapness and false economies by the defense) or they don't want to preserve adverse evidence in the form of unfavorable testimony. Perhaps the OSCO employee will move to another country or suffer a fatal stroke or otherwise become unable to testify, and it would be better for the defense NOT to have that pesky transcript entered into evidence.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[denjet]

There is nothing yet entered on the Clerk of Courts records. Though perhaps this old entry might have some bearing.

12/02/2009 Notice of Unavailability
from Attorney Linda Drane Burdick

I thought that was about the 12/11 hearing ... Ashton was the one arguing the motions and I don't remember seeing Burdick that day .. in anycase I thought that was before Strickland set this Thursday's date

[onlykaty]

But the fight, as it's told, was about Casey stealing from the rest home (which is sooooooooooooo low)


One thing is for sure we will never know for certain what the fight was about because we have to take the word of the Anthony's. We all know how reliable that is. As of now they are saying there was no fight.

I stated earlier things seemed to be at a stand still. I was referring to the news, and or, doc dumps of recent. I'm sure there are things going on behind the scene.

I also remember how adament Judge S. was when he stated the fraud trial would take place Jan. 25th. So maybe that means there will be a plea. I'm not really sure at this point what the defense could come up with to delay this one...jmo

[SandyO]

Judge S. needs to take charge of these postponements, if this is really true. The defense will never be ready, nor will they ever try and be. They are busy writing books, making tv appearences and showing their ignorance. I'm so disgusted!...:sneaky:

I read a long, long time ago, well before this case, that the best defense tactic is DELAY, DELAY, DELAY. That seems to be what's happening here, but let's see the reason given for the postponements.

[court~critic1®]

There is nothing yet entered on the Clerk of Courts records. Though perhaps this old entry might have some bearing.

12/02/2009 Notice of Unavailability
from Attorney Linda Drane Burdick


thank you!!!


I still do not see what she has to do with anything. She is only the lead att. on the murder trial. Not the fraud case.

Like Scampi... I want to know WHY!!!!


Both of these judges are getting on my last nerve. UGH!

[denjet]

Trial Date Expected In Casey Anthony Case (http://www.wesh.com/news/22264076/detail.html)

A date may be set by the end of the week for the murder trial of Casey Anthony.
Prosecutors and Anthony's defense team will go before Judge Stan Strickland on Thursday for a status hearing.

Article was updated 11:10am
CFNEWS was posted 11:23 am

????????????????

[Lynx]

Trial Date Expected In Casey Anthony Case (http://www.wesh.com/news/22264076/detail.html)

A date may be set by the end of the week for the murder trial of Casey Anthony.
Prosecutors and Anthony's defense team will go before Judge Stan Strickland on Thursday for a status hearing.

Article was updated 11:10am
CFNEWS was posted 11:23 am

Thanks for posting this update.:smile:

[denjet]

:cuss:

I want to know why.

I hope this is because of a plea and not a delay ... IMO Strickland was getting impatient and made it pretty clear it WOULD go forward ... :confused:

[court~critic1®]

Trial Date Expected In Casey Anthony Case (http://www.wesh.com/news/22264076/detail.html)

A date may be set by the end of the week for the murder trial of Casey Anthony.
Prosecutors and Anthony's defense team will go before Judge Stan Strickland on Thursday for a status hearing.

Article was updated 11:10am
CFNEWS was posted 11:23 am

????????????????




So which one are we to believe??????

:confused: :scared:

[Aunt]

I read a long, long time ago, well before this case, that the best defense tactic is DELAY, DELAY, DELAY. That seems to be what's happening here, but let's see the reason given for the postponements.

Hi Sandy, thats true, most effectively when the defendant is out on bond, and not incarcerated.

[5boxersmom]

I just knew it would be delayed again. :angry:

[denjet]

Anyone know if Casey DOES plead guilty to the fraud charges, will she have to appear in court and admit to it? Or is there someway the defense can do this behind closed doors because of the pending murder trial ?

[SandyO]

Hi Sandy, thats true, most effectively when the defendant is out on bond, and not incarcerated.

Hello, Aunt. I guess this explains Andrea Lyon's book signing schedule and her possible difficulties in getting to Orlando on time. She's known all along these changes would happen. I didn't see the necessity for her to be there anyhow, but there must be SO MUCH going on behind the scenes that we cannot be aware of.

[onlykaty]

Hi Sandy, thats true, most effectively when the defendant is out on bond, and not incarcerated.

If we want to look at anything positive out of this I guess it would be, at least Casey is rotting in jail, as we speak, eating pork rinds and looking more haggard and crazy everyday...jmo

[Sun]

Trial Date Expected In Casey Anthony Case (http://www.wesh.com/news/22264076/detail.html)

A date may be set by the end of the week for the murder trial of Casey Anthony.
Prosecutors and Anthony's defense team will go before Judge Stan Strickland on Thursday for a status hearing.

Article was updated 11:10am
CFNEWS was posted 11:23 am

????????????????

Thanks so much for posting these "times" and it seems as if the media is providing mixed messages to the public. I guess that it's going to be a waiting game to see what actually happens this week. :confused:

[CatToy]

Casey A needs to take a plea deal on all of it. It's the only chance she will ever have at a life. Come clean, or she can take her family, her ball, her toys and stay in prison for life.
We want to know the truth, a plea deal is the only life saving chance that Casey Has. It isn't AL.

[SandyO]

If we want to look at anything positive out of this I guess it would be, at least Casey is rotting in jail, as we speak, eating pork rinds and looking more haggard and crazy everyday...jmo

Thanks for that, Katy. That helps a little bit.

[Sun]

If we want to look at anything positive out of this I guess it would be, at least Casey is rotting in jail, as we speak, eating pork rinds and looking more haggard and crazy everyday...jmo

Over at :blink: :blink: :blink: I saw that someone posted Casey's Commissary account and purchases. Posting was around 607, IIRC.

[Spots™]

Casey Anthony’s Check Fraud Trial Delayed
Monday, January 18, 2010 11:23:04 AM


According to sources, a court hearing connected to Anthony's murder case scheduled for this week also will not take place.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/1/18/casey_anthonys_check_fraud_case_delayed.html

Buzzkill. :thumbdown:

[denjet]

Hello, Aunt. I guess this explains Andrea Lyon's book signing schedule and her possible difficulties in getting to Orlando on time. She's known all along these changes would happen. I didn't see the necessity for her to be there anyhow, but there must be SO MUCH going on behind the scenes that we cannot be aware of.

Hi Sandy, the pretrial for the murder case is this Thursday ... the fraud trial on the 25th has been cancelled and this has been filed with the court ... still nothing filed on the hearing this week ...

cfnews said "According to sources, a court hearing connected to Anthony's murder case scheduled for this week also will not take place"

[SandyO]

Hi Sandy, the pretrial for the murder case is this Thursday ... the fraud trial on the 25th has been cancelled and this has been filed with the court ... still nothing filed on the hearing this week ...

cfnews said "According to sources, a court hearing connected to Anthony's murder case scheduled for this week also will not take place"

Am I getting mixed up (again!), Den? I swear that as I sit here right this minute I have no idea what's happening, what isn't, or why it is or isn't.

[denjet]

Buzzkill. :thumbdown:

Major buzzkill, Spots!
I hope their "sources" are the defense team and it's just them trying to weasel out of it !!

[~tj~]

Am I getting mixed up (again!), Den? I swear that as I sit here right this minute I have no idea what's happening, what isn't, or why it is or isn't.

What Sandy said!! ^ :confused:

[oswald]

What Sandy said!! ^ :confused:

what Sandy and tj said :confused: also

[Piratexox]

This might just be my anger speaking here, but I'm calling BS on this report concerning the hearings being delayed again.
"Sources" are reporting this on MLK Day?? Aren't the courts closed??
So why didn't we hear about this on Friday when it should have happened?
Not creditable in my book.

[onlykaty]

what Sandy and tj said :confused: also

Add me to the :confused: list. :angry:

[oswald]

This might just be my anger speaking here, but I'm calling BS on this report concerning the hearings being delayed again.
"Sources" are reporting this on MLK Day?? Aren't the courts closed??
So why didn't we hear about this on Friday when it should have happened?
Not creditable in my book.

OOOOOOHHHHHHH silver lining! Your right, courts are closed - I wonder if the defense is behind this

[~tj~]

This might just be my anger speaking here, but I'm calling BS on this report concerning the hearings being delayed again.
"Sources" are reporting this on MLK Day?? Aren't the courts closed??
So why didn't we hear about this on Friday when it should have happened?
Not creditable in my book.

I soooo hope you are right Pirate!! :cursing:

[cuddlyrunner]

what??? fraud trial cancelled? can they do that?
Don't they know I have next week planned for maximum viewing?

[jessie]

Someone posted a few days ago that Casey is no doubt sitting in her "dorm room" thinking how incredibly stupid her parents are. I have no doubt of that whatsoever. I must say I have to agree with her on that one. I cannot and do not believe Cindy and George can be so stupid. I cannot even imagine what was in their heads. That is not being a parent. Its being nothing. I dont even know what to say about it except Casey is the product of nonparenting. JMO

[onlykaty]

Over at :blink: :blink: :blink: I saw that someone posted Casey's Commissary account and purchases. Posting was around 607, IIRC.


lol, this always good reading for a laugh..Thanks..

[Sun]

Someone posted a few days ago that Casey is no doubt sitting in her "dorm room" thinking how incredibly stupid her parents are. I have no doubt of that whatsoever.

Casey sure has taken a liking to ordering lots and lots of hot chocolate mix lately. And no matter how low her commissary account gets, she orders 7-9 bottled waters (14 oz size $0.99 ea.) on nearly every order.

[denjet]

This might just be my anger speaking here, but I'm calling BS on this report concerning the hearings being delayed again.
"Sources" are reporting this on MLK Day?? Aren't the courts closed??
So why didn't we hear about this on Friday when it should have happened?
Not creditable in my book.

Orange County Clerk filed the cancellation today 18th ... wierd huh?

[denjet]

Casey sure has taken a liking to ordering lots and lots of hot chocolate mix lately. And no matter how low her commissary account gets, she orders 7-9 bottled waters (14 oz size $0.99 ea.) on nearly every order.

LOL ... maybe she's freezing her butt off .... one can hope!

Sun, what are the date's for the hot chocolate mix?

[cuddlyrunner]

I looked at the other place and I can't see the commisary order-can someone copy and paste?

[Sun]

Orange County Clerk filed the cancellation today 18th ... wierd huh?

I don't see any new entries on the Clerk of Courts records yet in regards to any future hearings being cancelled. Just copied this a minute ago from their records. Am I looking in the wrong place?

http://myclerk.myorangeclerk.com/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=6236234


check/fraud
12/11/2009 Hearing (9:30 AM) ()
12/11/2009 Court Minutes
12/11/2009 Court Minutes
Amended as to case number
12/18/2009 CANCELED Hearing (10:00 AM) ()
Cancelled
STATUS
01/25/2010 Trial (10:00 AM) ()
Courtroom: TBA

murder
01/05/2010 Correspondence
Filed From Prisoner to Judge Rec'd From Judge
01/14/2010 Correspondence
RECD FROM JD
01/21/2010 Hearing (10:00 AM) ()
Status/Pre-Trial

[onlykaty]

Casey sure has taken a liking to ordering lots and lots of hot chocolate mix lately. And no matter how low her commissary account gets, she orders 7-9 bottled waters (14 oz size $0.99 ea.) on nearly every order.

Maybe a little chily in the jail, huh? How sad she is sitting in a cold jail cell, when she could be sitting in front of a warm fire drinking that hot choc. NOT! wonder if she ever gives this a thought. Wonder if she ever thinks about Caylee at all, wishing she had kept her safe and loved her like a real mom would. Nah, I doubt she ever has one thought that isn't about "herself". ughhh

[SandyO]

LOL ... maybe she's freezing her butt off .... one can hope!

Sun, what are the date's for the hot chocolate mix?

I've been drinking a lot of hot chocolate mix myself lately because they're high in calories and I need to gain a few pounds. Casey doesn't.

[SandyO]

Maybe a little chily in the jail, huh? How sad she is sitting in a cold jail cell, when she could be sitting in front of a warm fire drinking that hot choc. NOT! wonder if she ever gives this a thought. Wonder if she ever thinks about Caylee at all, wishing she had kept her safe and loved her like a real mom would. Nah, I doubt she ever has one thought that isn't about "herself". ughhh

You've got to have hot water (or milk) to make that stuff. How do you think Casey's getting boiling water?

[AnnieKins]

I've always thought that George was wrong in stating that Casey stole from Caylee's piggybank. And, thought it a bit odd that he said that "he put" money into the piggybank (don't children like to do this fun task?) If it was Caylee's piggybank, then she should have been the one to put money in, and have some say in when to take it out or what to spend it on? Maybe Casey did remove the money from the piggybank, but used it to purchase things for Caylee? :confused:


Sun. Sun. Sun. Did someone put koolaid in your coffee this morning? :scared:

[neid_77]

uggggggg :angry:
Not that I didn't expect this to happen but I kept my fingers crossed.

are they goiing to delay the february 1st deadline for the defense 2 I AM SO TIRED OF THIS!! :cursing:

[Sun]

I've been drinking a lot of hot chocolate mix myself lately because they're high in calories and I need to gain a few pounds. Casey doesn't.

With George putting in a generous total of $250 in her commissary account in the month of December, Casey sure has been spending it. I don't see any dieting going on in that jail cell. :wink:

[BobbysGirl]

I must say I have to agree with her on that one. I cannot and do not believe Cindy and George can be so stupid. I cannot even imagine what was in their heads. That is not being a parent. Its being nothing. I dont even know what to say about it except Casey is the product of nonparenting. JMO

Just popping in. True words spoken. Hollow minds and empty hearts.

BG

[Piratexox]

are they goiing to delay the february 1st deadline for the defense 2 I AM SO TIRED OF THIS!! :cursing:

I guess we're going to have to wait until later today to confirm this. It is confusing now.
If this is true I'm appalled by the mockery of the Florida Judicial System.
This isn't a game.

[onlykaty]

You've got to have hot water (or milk) to make that stuff. How do you think Casey's getting boiling water?

:shrug: Don't know, but why order the hot choc. mix? I think she gets out of her cell an hr a day, maybe a micro in the tv room..I don't know, never been in jail, not familiar with how that would work. Maybe she has sources Sandy. I'm at a loss.

[Sun]

Sun. Sun. Sun. Did someone put koolaid in your coffee this morning? :scared:

I slip up, and everybody is so good to get me back on track. What a great group of people here! :wub: If I do it again, please send me to the corner.

[Sun]

:shrug: Don't know, but why order the hot choc. mix? I think she gets out of her cell an hr a day, maybe a micro in the tv room..I don't know, never been in jail, not familiar with how that would work. Maybe she has sources Sandy. I'm at a loss.

I don't know either. Where is our expert, Lavinya? She would know.

[Sun]

One source says delayed then says it isn't going to happen...anyone think she will just plead guilty???

My guess is, "no contest" to all charges.

[cassidy]

Casey Anthony’s Check Fraud Trial Delayed
Monday, January 18, 2010 11:23:04 AM


According to sources, a court hearing connected to Anthony's murder case scheduled for this week also will not take place.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2010/1/18/casey_anthonys_check_fraud_case_delayed.html



NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Say it ain't so :(

[oswald]

With George putting in a generous total of $250 in her commissary account in the month of December, Casey sure has been spending it. I don't see any dieting going on in that jail cell. :wink:

Why diet if your not going to get out of jail? Maybe we'll see Casey the 200 pounder soon

As for the hot water - does her sink have hot water? Maybe a guard nukes the water for her? Like her own personal maid!

[myownopera]

I guess we're going to have to wait until later today to confirm this. It is confusing now.
If this is true I'm appalled by the mockery of the Florida Judicial System.
This isn't a game.


I don't post much - but do try and keep up!! I am NOT AT ALL surprised that there has been a delay - that's the way most lawyers do -- (my brother iincluded) -- delay, delay -- and I do think that the Florida Judicial System DOES think this is a game - otherwise, this would not be happening!!

IMOO

[Piratexox]

My guess is, "no contest" to all charges.

But she'd still have to be before the bench and be sentenced.
So why would the date need to be changed?
Judge Stan was showing that he's fed up w/ the delays as he had DC give his deposition on the last date that was scheduled. I'm hoping that's what happened and it's was for the Investigative Subpoena.

[denjet]

are they goiing to delay the february 1st deadline for the defense 2 I AM SO TIRED OF THIS!! :cursing:

Hi ya neid :seeya:
So far no, but who knows ... the judge was pretty firm on this, and moving the murder trial forward ... certainly the state needs time to respond and the defense has had plenty of time to back up their big mouths!

But I want to believe that the hearing next week is cancelled because she's pleading guilty to the fraud charges ... keepin' my fingers crossed :glare:

[hello its me]

Over at :blink: :blink: :blink: I saw that someone posted Casey's Commissary account and purchases. Posting was around 607, IIRC.

can you give a hint as to where this is? TIA!

[denjet]

Sounds planned by the defense to me. Filing a motion on a Federal holiday!?! I'm with pirate on that one.

CORRECTION: 12/18 A hearing was cancelled not 1/18 ... sorry :blushing:

[cuddlyrunner]

CORRECTION: 12/18 A hearing was cancelled not 1/18 ... sorry :blushing:

does that mean the trial is going ahead????

[denjet]

can you give a hint as to where this is? TIA!

At Blink On Crime ... under the "Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: George Anthony Is Under The Microscope" thread at post #607

[oswald]

CORRECTION: 12/18 A hearing was cancelled not 1/18 ... sorry :blushing:

Okay so does that mean the fraud trial is still happening? Pretrial is still this Thu? I'm confused :confused:

[denjet]

does that mean the trial is going ahead????

this Thursday the pre-trial for the murder case ...
CFNEWS is the only one reporting that the fraud trial next week isn't going to happen

[denjet]

Okay so does that mean the fraud trial is still happening? Pretrial is still this Thu? I'm confused :confused:

Join the group :confused:
No it looks like the fraud trial is NOT going to happen and the Pre-trial is still on ... maybe she finally plead guilty ... it's judge odd that the news didn't say re-scheduled or continued ...:shrug:

[BettyC]

Join the group :confused:
No it looks like the fraud trial is NOT going to happen and the Pre-trial is still on ... maybe she finally plead guilty ... it's judge odd that the news didn't say re-scheduled or continued ...:shrug:

CFNews12 changed the way they worded it. Now it doesn't say it's not going to happen.

However, News 13 has learned the trial isn’t going to happen next week.

[cassidy]

CORRECTION: 12/18 A hearing was cancelled not 1/18 ... sorry :blushing:

Thanks for the correction :) You gave us something to talk about (which we haven't had for DAYS).

[denjet]

CFNews12 changed the way they worded it. Now it doesn't say it's not going to happen.

However, News 13 has learned the trial isn’t going to happen next week.

Hi Bett, ok and the titled says "delayed" ... still confused ...

[Aunt]

When Casey is convicted of cheque fraud, or she pleads, I think she should be sent to PRISON now, time served is just not enough according to the amount of charges.

Also she should have fines ATTACHED to her jail account.

If she pleads guilty at the 11th hour, fine, but she is JUST as directly guilty of Caylee's murder as she is of the cheque fraud charges.

I still can't see her coping a plea on any of the charges, simply because her mental illness doesn't leave room for anything but lies and denial. Straight down the pipe.

To the BIG house, I say!

[denjet]

Thanks for the correction :) You gave us something to talk about (which we haven't had for DAYS).

LOL ... just desperate for news ... any news (and tend to jump the gun when I am) :wink:

[wasapi2]

When Casey is convicted of cheque fraud, or she pleads, I think she should be sent to PRISON now, time served is just not enough according to the amount of charges.

Also she should have fines ATTACHED to her jail account.

If she pleads guilty at the 11th hour, fine, but she is JUST as directly guilty of Caylee's murder as she is of the cheque fraud charges.

I still can't see her coping a plea on any of the charges, simply because her mental illness doesn't leave room for anything but lies and denial. Straight down the pipe.

To the BIG house, I say!

I completely agree! It is way past time for this person to go to prison. It seems that where she is now she is easily coddled by her attorney, she is still close to family - whether she accepts their visits or not - and it is way past time for her to get a glimpse at what her future holds. Prison. Eventually death row, but for now prison would do. I doubt that her life will be as easy as it has been in jail.

[Kathlb]

CORRECTION: 12/18 A hearing was cancelled not 1/18 ... sorry :blushing:

I have a unique idea for the courts... give all trials a fair time to get it together and set a trial date with NO excuses other than the defense atty. died. Otherwise it goes ahead.

And while I'm on a roll, I say that if convicted and given the death penalty, the date will be set at one year after the trial which is plenty of time to do the appeal and that's it. To heck with them spending years on death row costing us millions that could go toward helping youth see the error of their ways if they are doing something unlawful and offer them a way out of the gangs, bad neighborhoods and give them a goal to reach for.

Will inmates be killed who are innocent? I doubt it since we now do DNA and a year is plenty of time to get that ruling and show the evidence that they are innocent. If not, the jury was correct. :cursing:

[denjet]

Over on WebSleuths, cloud9 posted (#36)
Adam Longo said (on air) CFNEWS 13:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94156&page=2

[MichelleP]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17914492/detail.html

Am I reading that right?

"The defense documents went on to describe Casey as troubled, possibly depressed. They said her behavior had been erratic ever since Caylee’s birth and particularly in the months before the little girl’s disappearance. The documents also said Casey’s lack of emotion after Caylee’s disappearance is proof that Casey is not normal and could possibly be suffering from mental or emotional stress."

They are saying she didn't do it so how they going to get away with coming a line like that. Are they saying she did do it, but she doesn't feel like she should be executed for it because she is mentally ill? I don't think she is mentally ill either. How do they expect to win like that? She never had a criminal history. So what? A lot of people do and yet they do not kill.

To me that is just making it sound like she did do it and they expect to get her off with that mumbo jumbo. That sounds to me like they are saying she did do it, but they don't think the punishment of death is justifiable based on what I like to know. If they are saying she was poisoned and died in a tragic accident involving Casey and know about it they should convince her to confess even though I don't think it was an accident.

Without her confession I don't see how she is going to get off on that for the very simple reason she was not found guilty of anything yet and this just makes her look more guilty than she already looked imo. She had the opportunity and motive to do it. That is all you need.

"The defense documents went on to describe Casey as troubled, possibly depressed. They said her behavior had been erratic ever since Caylee’s birth and particularly in the months before the little girl’s disappearance. The documents also said Casey’s lack of emotion after Caylee’s disappearance is proof that Casey is not normal and could possibly be suffering from mental or emotional stress."

Motive

"They said her behavior had been erratic ever since Caylee’s birth"

She didn't want Caylee around anymore, because Caylee was getting all the attention from her mother and she was a burden to Casey. It doesn't take much brain to know the reason why Casey didn't cry or shed much emotion was because she did it on purpose and was happy for once in her life since Caylee had been born.

Didn't they already say she did show emotion and was sad? Which one to believe? I believe the one where she showed no emotion.

But if you are not using the insanity defense and admitting you did it. I don't see how they could use that line.

My opinion only

[denjet]

I have a unique idea for the courts... give all trials a fair time to get it together and set a trial date with NO excuses other than the defense atty. died. Otherwise it goes ahead.

And while I'm on a roll, I say that if convicted and given the death penalty, the date will be set at one year after the trial which is plenty of time to do the appeal and that's it. To heck with them spending years on death row costing us millions that could go toward helping youth see the error of their ways if they are doing something unlawful and offer them a way out of the gangs, bad neighborhoods and give them a goal to reach for.

Will inmates be killed who are innocent? I doubt it since we now do DNA and a year is plenty of time to get that ruling and show the evidence that they are innocent. If not, the jury was correct. :cursing:

I second that motion, Kath! :thumbup:
Put time limits on them, geeze !!

[Aunt]

I completely agree! It is way past time for this person to go to prison. It seems that where she is now she is easily coddled by her attorney, she is still close to family - whether she accepts their visits or not - and it is way past time for her to get a glimpse at what her future holds. Prison. Eventually death row, but for now prison would do. I doubt that her life will be as easy as it has been in jail.

Early on, I understood the cheque fraud charges alone amounted to possible 17 years, NOT time served, if she cops a plea at the 11th hour.

Time served? I don't agree.

Also fines can be $500 per charge if my memory serves.

imo

[oswald]

Remember the first DP attorney? He went on the record and said that the only way Casey will get out of this is to plead insanity - ONLY problem, TonE, her friends, her family HAVE ALWAYS said Casey was as normal as any other day

So Casey is only crazy for her attorneys? LOL

Sure she's depressed, she killed her daughter, she got caught and the state wants her to pay with the ultimate penalty - I'd be depressed too

From what you stated, it sounds like the defense is going the crazy train route - they have to substantiate it tho and if they can't it will be rejected as a plea by the judge and state

She has to put in a plea of insanity and the state can argue it - and then there will be a trial to see if she's competant to stand trial - so if the defense thinks that this will get the DP off the table and that it will all be solved they are sorely misguided

http://www.wftv.com/news/17914492/detail.html

Am I reading that right?

"The defense documents went on to describe Casey as troubled, possibly depressed. They said her behavior had been erratic ever since Caylee’s birth and particularly in the months before the little girl’s disappearance. The documents also said Casey’s lack of emotion after Caylee’s disappearance is proof that Casey is not normal and could possibly be suffering from mental or emotional stress."

They are saying she didn't do it so how they going to get away with coming a line like that. Are they saying she did do it, but she doesn't feel like she should be executed for it because she is mentally ill? I don't think she is mentally ill either. How do they expect to win like that? She never had a criminal history. So what? A lot of people do and yet they do not kill.

To me that is just making it sound like she did do it and they expect to get her off with that mumbo jumbo. That sounds to me like they are saying she did do it, but they don't think the punishment of death is justifiable based on what I like to know. If they are saying she was poisoned and died in a tragic accident involving Casey and know about it they should convince her to confess even though I don't think it was an accident.

Without her confession I don't see how she is going to get off on that for the very simple reason she was not found guilty of anything yet and this just makes her look more guilty than she already looked imo. She had the opportunity and motive to do it. That is all you need.

"The defense documents went on to describe Casey as troubled, possibly depressed. They said her behavior had been erratic ever since Caylee’s birth and particularly in the months before the little girl’s disappearance. The documents also said Casey’s lack of emotion after Caylee’s disappearance is proof that Casey is not normal and could possibly be suffering from mental or emotional stress."

Motive

"They said her behavior had been erratic ever since Caylee’s birth"

She didn't want Caylee around anymore, because Caylee was getting all the attention from her mother and she was a burden to Casey. It doesn't take much brain to know the reason why Casey didn't cry or shed much emotion was because she did it on purpose and was happy for once in her life since Caylee had been born.

Didn't they already say she did show emotion and was sad? Which one to believe? I believe the one where she showed no emotion.

But if you are not using the insanity defense and admitting you did it. I don't see how they could use that line.

My opinion only

[oswald]

Early on, I understood the cheque fraud charges alone amounted to possible 17 years, NOT time served, if she cops a plea at the 11th hour.

Time served? I don't agree.

Also fines can be $500 per charge if my memory serves.

imo

She has no priors, it's her first offense - yes she can get time served - she's never been caught before, so she could luck out

[sunstar]

CFNews12 changed the way they worded it. Now it doesn't say it's not going to happen.

However, News 13 has learned the trial isn’t going to happen next week.

Hi! Oh, that's much better ~ I was scared for a moment that she may have plead down to some misdemeanors. :scared:

[sunstar]

Hi Bett, ok and the titled says "delayed" ... still confused ...

What I'm not understanding in all this is I didn't think the judge was going to allow any more delays in the fraud trial. :confused:

[Aunt]

In case you have not seen it, there is some discussion going on here regarding a possible delay and the confusion around it.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/01/casey-anthony-check-fraud-trial-delayed-central-florida-news-13-reports.html

I put my money on a delay and not a plea.

I just don't see her pleading guilty to any of the charges.

[Sun]

She has no priors, it's her first offense - yes she can get time served - she's never been caught before, so she could luck out

http://www.wftv.com/video/21931707/index.html

Just after 4 minutes into this link (part 3 of the last court hearing) Judge Strickland talks about the possible penalties that Casey could be facing for the criminal check/fraud charges. Ozzy is spot on, it's likely a time served sentence.

[hello its me]

At Blink On Crime ... under the "Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: George Anthony Is Under The Microscope" thread at post #607

thank you! what's up with all that shampoo/conditioner? I think she's trying to wash Caylee's ghost right out of her hair. Weird.

[BobbysGirl]

More confused than ever. I certainly hope the delay process is stopped by Judge. Not a lawyer here but this whole case is ridiculous.

Time for Casey to fess up. And a stupid motion for change of venue is again, ridiculous.

As far as the Anthony clan. PFFFFFFFFFT! They waste good air.

Justice for Caylee will come. In due time. Patience is a virtue. Sooner than I think, anyway. IMO

BG

[BobbysGirl]

In case you have not seen it, there is some discussion going on here regarding a possible delay and the confusion around it.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/01/casey-anthony-check-fraud-trial-delayed-central-florida-news-13-reports.html

I put my money on a delay and not a plea.

I just don't see her pleading guilty to any of the charges.

My 2 cents is on delay as well. Casey will never open her mouth. Her lies and deceit made her what she is. imo

She will see the big house one way!

BG

[Aunt]

She has no priors, it's her first offense - yes she can get time served - she's never been caught before, so she could luck out

Thanks, I appreciate the info.

Would that mean no fines, as well?

[SayWhen]

Casey sure has taken a liking to ordering lots and lots of hot chocolate mix lately. And no matter how low her commissary account gets, she orders 7-9 bottled waters (14 oz size $0.99 ea.) on nearly every order.

Probably reminds her of home, and mommy. :wub:

:sneaky:

[Sun]

More confused than ever. I certainly hope the delay process is stopped by Judge. Not a lawyer here but this whole case is ridiculous.

Time for Casey to fess up. And a stupid motion for change of venue is again, ridiculous.

As far as the Anthony clan. PFFFFFFFFFT! They waste good air.

Justice for Caylee will come. In due time. Patience is a virtue. Sooner than I think, anyway. IMO

BG

Lyon has got to do a lot of delays to be able to not try this case in an "even year." In one of her speeches, she specially mentions that she never wants to try a case in a "even year" ...whatever she means by that, I have no idea. (maybe something to do with elections/politics)

[Aunt]

My 2 cents is on delay as well. Casey will never open her mouth. Her lies and deceit made her what she is. imo

She will see the big house one way!

BG

Seriously, I have a bottle of champagne waiting in the bar fridge for THAT day.

That day WILL come, tick tock! :tongueside:

[sunstar]

Lyon has got to do a lot of delays to be able to not try this case in an "even year." In one of her speeches, she specially mentions that she never wants to try a case in a "even year" ...whatever she means by that, I have no idea. (maybe something to do with elections/politics)

I remember that too, and now that I think about it, the fraud trial is supposed to happen before the murder trial, so now the latest tactic seems to be to delay that as long as possible which could push the murder trial into 2011. :shrug: I just hope it doesn't work. These trials have nothing to do with politics! MOO

[Scampi]

I hope this is because of a plea and not a delay ... IMO Strickland was getting impatient and made it pretty clear it WOULD go forward ... :confused:

He did Den, even to the point of telling both parties he was ordering up Jurors.

Don't they know not to toy with us? :cuss:


lol

[*MoonRider*]

I remember that too, and now that I think about it, the fraud trial is supposed to happen before the murder trial, so now the latest tactic seems to be to delay that as long as possible which could push the murder trial into 2011. :shrug: I just hope it doesn't work. These trials have nothing to do with politics! MOO

If I remember correctly, Jose filed for a Change of Venue in the fraud case, which has not been heard. Shouldn't they try to seat a jury in Orange County first?

[oswald]

Thanks, I appreciate the info.

Would that mean no fines, as well?

I don't know that, it's up to the judge in that case - there are guidelines to follow, I would assume she would have a fine, but paid how? By making license plates? LOL couldn't resist!

The defense will argue that the money was paid back and all charges should be dismissed - yeah that will go far - how they think by paying back the money after a year, without telling the court when it was done, not paying the fees associated with the checks, and paying suffering by Amy will just disappear

And I'm sure Amys lawyers will ask for money for pain and suffering, and I don't blame her - they will go after the A's I think if it goes through - I think with Casey living at home, and the A's paying the bills, etc. it will be construed that the A's are responsible for Casey's well being - don't quote me on that but I do know there are laws that are in this line

[Sun]

I remember that too, and now that I think about it, the fraud trial is supposed to happen before the murder trial, so now the latest tactic seems to be to delay that as long as possible which could push the murder trial into 2011. :shrug: I just hope it doesn't work. These trials have nothing to do with politics! MOO

Lyon's agenda is to get the death penalty laws changed. And, to be able to reach as many people as possible in her quest to do so. Lyon would probably like to be on "the stage" just as long as she can convince someone to let her stay there. :mad:

Lyon doesn't have the same definition of "Justice" as the law makers.

[oswald]

I remember that too, and now that I think about it, the fraud trial is supposed to happen before the murder trial, so now the latest tactic seems to be to delay that as long as possible which could push the murder trial into 2011. :shrug: I just hope it doesn't work. These trials have nothing to do with politics! MOO

Just because the fraud trial can delay doesn't mean the murder trial will

The defense wanted the fraud trial AFTER the murder trial - why? So that Casey is not a convicted felon already and to keep prior bad acts out of the murder trial

The judge wanted nothing to do with it, he said that Amy is due her justice

[Aunt]

I don't know that, it's up to the judge in that case - there are guidelines to follow, I would assume she would have a fine, but paid how? By making license plates? LOL couldn't resist!

The defense will argue that the money was paid back and all charges should be dismissed - yeah that will go far - how they think by paying back the money after a year, without telling the court when it was done, not paying the fees associated with the checks, and paying suffering by Amy will just disappear

And I'm sure Amys lawyers will ask for money for pain and suffering, and I don't blame her - they will go after the A's I think if it goes through - I think with Casey living at home, and the A's paying the bills, etc. it will be construed that the A's are responsible for Casey's well being - don't quote me on that but I do know there are laws that are in this line

I was sure that I had read somewhere that fines could be applied to her commisary acct, and the fines would have to be paid before pork cheezies were ordered

I could accept that along with the felony record.

[Sun]

If I remember correctly, Jose filed for a Change of Venue in the fraud case, which has not been heard. Shouldn't they try to seat a jury in Orange County first?

Here is that group of Motions. I don't remember seeing rulings on any of them, or rulings entered on the Clerk of Courts records either. :wink:


Defendant's Motion In Limine To Preclude The Introduction Of Any Evidence Relating To Miss Anthony's Murder Case (Includes Table Of Exhibits and Memorandum Of Law in Support, 15 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13098974

Motion In Limine To Exclude Evidence Of Alleged Prior Bad Acts (Includes Table Of Exhibits, Memorandum Of Law in Support, 13 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13099942

Motion for Change of Venue, including Summary of Exhibits and Memorandum of Law
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13093619

Andrea Lyon - Motion for Admission To Appear Pro Hac Vice (Fraud Trial, 5 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13091969/Motion-For-Admission-To-Appear-Pro-Hac-Vice

Motion For Individually Sequestered Jury Voir Dire (Fraud Trial) (includes Memorandum Of Law in Support and Table Of Exhibits, 13 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13096875

Motion for Jury Questionaire (Fraud Trial) (Includes Memorandum of Law in Support and Table of Exhibits, 16 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13097020

Juror Questionaire (Fraud Trial, 10 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13097241

[charmin 66]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-hearing-delayed-20100118,0,4803524.story

3:25 p.m. EST, January 18, 2010

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed. There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court.

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed.

There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court, such as whether the defense can get a change of venue due to the media coverage. And, the defense has not interviewed the victim, Amy Huizenga, under oath yet.

More at link

[tulpje]

If I remember correctly, Jose filed for a Change of Venue in the fraud case, which has not been heard. Shouldn't they try to seat a jury in Orange County first?




You are correct.
Baez did ask for a change of venue, I don't remember reading a ruling of the judge.
I also remember the judge saying jury selection would start the following week.
Maybe he ignored the request, based on if they could find a jury in Orlando.

[onlykaty]

LOL ... just desperate for news ... any news (and tend to jump the gun when I am) :wink:

Its all good denjet, we are all so eager to see this through, it could happen to any of us. I'm just glad people like you are on the ball and keeping some of us up on all the news. :thumbup:

[oswald]

I was sure that I had read somewhere that fines could be applied to her commisary acct, and the fines would have to be paid before pork cheezies were ordered

I could accept that along with the felony record.

I don't think so, that would mean her parents or anyone else sending money would be paying her fine - it's for Casey to pay not anyone else

Tho I'm not sure

[oswald]

Well then I would ask why not? The judge needs to put his foot down, again, and say have it done or it goes ahead - there is no reason why Baez hasn't done this OTHER THAN he has no money to hire anyone to do it - that would mean.....Casey ain't paying

And it was reported that Baez has a bunch of other new cases - you know if he can't handle the work load than don't take it

How ANYONE would trust him is just beyond me

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-hearing-delayed-20100118,0,4803524.story

3:25 p.m. EST, January 18, 2010

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed. There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court.

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed.

There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court, such as whether the defense can get a change of venue due to the media coverage. And, the defense has not interviewed the victim, Amy Huizenga, under oath yet.

More at link

[hello its me]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-hearing-delayed-20100118,0,4803524.story

3:25 p.m. EST, January 18, 2010

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed. There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court.

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed.

There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court, such as whether the defense can get a change of venue due to the media coverage. And, the defense has not interviewed the victim, Amy Huizenga, under oath yet.

More at link

UGH. THAT better not be a delay because they haven't depo'd Amy yet. they have had plenty of time to do it. Just take 1 of their New York press appearances away, and there's time.

[sunstar]

If I remember correctly, Jose filed for a Change of Venue in the fraud case, which has not been heard. Shouldn't they try to seat a jury in Orange County first?

That's what is normally done first, then if a jury can't be seated the judge will consider moving the trial. MOO

[minimarshm]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-hearing-delayed-20100118,0,4803524.story

3:25 p.m. EST, January 18, 2010

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed. There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court.

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed.

There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court, such as whether the defense can get a change of venue due to the media coverage. And, the defense has not interviewed the victim, Amy Huizenga, under oath yet.

More at link




maybe they should've skipped one of their many press ops and spent that time interviewing Amy instead.

[minimarshm]

ugh. That better not be a delay because they haven't depo'd amy yet. They have had plenty of time to do it. Just take 1 of their new york press appearances away, and there's time.



gmta!!!!!!

[sunstar]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-hearing-delayed-20100118,0,4803524.story

3:25 p.m. EST, January 18, 2010

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed. There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court.

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed.

There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court, such as whether the defense can get a change of venue due to the media coverage. And, the defense has not interviewed the victim, Amy Huizenga, under oath yet.

More at link

And my question is ~ why not??? The defense has had over a year to do this!!! :scared:

[Kathlb]

Well then I would ask why not? The judge needs to put his foot down, again, and say have it done or it goes ahead - there is no reason why Baez hasn't done this OTHER THAN he has no money to hire anyone to do it - that would mean.....Casey ain't paying

And it was reported that Baez has a bunch of other new cases - you know if he can't handle the work load than don't take it

How ANYONE would trust him is just beyond me

From what I remember, he asked for a change of venue in the criminal trial not the fraud trial. Not much to get excited about Jose, they have actual film of her doing it!!!! Duh.

That entire office is full of little hangers on... No reason at all that they haven't finished their depositions. The judge needs to slap some knuckles with his ruler and order them to be ready in two weeks or else. Final word on the matter! :cursing:

[*MoonRider*]

maybe they should've skipped one of their many press ops and spent that time interviewing Amy instead.

I can't believe the judge would allow the excuse that they have not interviewed Amy. It's not like they didn't have over a year to do so. :mad:

What a waste, huge waste of the court's time over a case that should plead.

[Kathlb]

maybe they should've skipped one of their many press ops and spent that time interviewing Amy instead.

YEP! And the judge needs to tell them that. Or else.... hammer

[sunstar]

You know, the defense- Baze, Lyons,( and bears oh my)- may think Judge Stan is taking these delays lightly, but I don't think he is. Casey's attorneys can push the delay buttons but they won't be granted any delays that the judge finds to be unfounded. I try to think of the defenses delays as a gift of sorts to the state. Delays for them equals more planning time for the state.

And each passing day in jail makes the defendant less appealing to potential male jurors. :wink:

[tulpje]

maybe they should've skipped one of their many press ops and spent that time interviewing Amy instead.


Nobody but Baez and Amy know of the fact that she has not been deposed.

I wonder who leaked that little detail to the press?

:sneaky:

I wonder if the judge cares that the dog ate Baez's homeowrk?

[Kathlb]

I really really really didn't like OJ's lawyer, Yale Galanter. But he makes this bunch of defense lawyers look like Our Gang comic characters. He was always on time and had prepared what the judge said to have ready to go forward. No arguments, no excuses or motions of such, he was ready.

Jose is a fool and he just might find some fines if he continues this charade. JMHO

[Sun]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-hearing-delayed-20100118,0,4803524.story

3:25 p.m. EST, January 18, 2010

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed. There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court.

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed.

There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court, such as whether the defense can get a change of venue due to the media coverage. And, the defense has not interviewed the victim, Amy Huizenga, under oath yet.

More at link

Hahaha... this updated article is a bit different than the original one that the put out. Someone's been reading message boards/blog. :wink:

[girlspell]

I can't believe the judge would allow the excuse that they have not interviewed Amy. It's not like they didn't have over a year to do so. :mad:

What a waste, huge waste of the court's time over a case that should plead.

It's a huge waste. But that's all the defense has. Just motions activated very close to the trial date. They'll do that with civil case and certainly for the murder trial. Just delay the inevitable. Evan when they are forced to come to trial, they always claim after wards Casey did not get a fair trails, because there was not enough time to prepare, because she did not get a change of venue, etc. I'm not sure how long they can get around doing this. Is there a limit on how many motions they file?

[cassidy]

And my question is ~ why not??? The defense has had over a year to do this!!! :scared:

Defense delay tactic. If I were the judge and they ran this past me I'd be hopping mad. They get away with it because they are allowed to IMO>

[Sun]

If the defense does ask for a continuance on the criminal check/fraud trial, won't that be their third continuance? Would Amy then be able to file a right to a speedy trial? My memory is very faint on this, but I think that something like this was mentioned way back earlier last year. Does anyone remember, or is my memory failing me once again?

[sunstar]

Defense delay tactic. If I were the judge and they ran this past me I'd be hopping mad. They get away with it because they are allowed to IMO>

Definitely ~ the judge needs to put an end to this and start sanctioning the defense. There's no excuse for not deposing Amy. MOO

[oswald]

YEP! And the judge needs to tell them that. Or else.... hammer

Easy way to solve that, gag order - just slap one on the case then the defense can actually do the work!

[oswald]

If the defense does ask for a continuance on the criminal check/fraud trial, won't that be their third continuance? Would Amy then be able to file a right to a speedy trial? My memory is very faint on this, but I think that something like this was mentioned way back earlier last year. Does anyone remember, or is my memory failing me once again?

Amy did that, thats why Judge S wouldn't delay until after the murder trial - Amy is due her justice, thats what Judge S said

[Piratexox]

Amy did that, thats why Judge S wouldn't delay until after the murder trial - Amy is due her justice, thats what Judge S said

Link for that:

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/07/seldomused-law-may-force-casey.html

[sunstar]

Amy did that, thats why Judge S wouldn't delay until after the murder trial - Amy is due her justice, thats what Judge S said

Well then he better instruct the defense to get that deposition ~ NOW! MOO

[BettyC]

More confusing info:

Prosecutors and Anthony's defense team will appear at a pre-trial hearing Thursday to address some of these issues.

The court and the State Attorney's Office are closed today due to the holiday.

Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland has not officially delayed the trial, which is scheduled to begin on Monday.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-hearing-delayed-20100118,0,4803524.story

[Sun]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-hearing-delayed-20100118,0,4803524.story

3:25 p.m. EST, January 18, 2010

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed. There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court.

Casey Anthony's fraud case set for trial next week will likely be delayed.

There's a slew of motions that haven't been addressed by the court, such as whether the defense can get a change of venue due to the media coverage. And, the defense has not interviewed the victim, Amy Huizenga, under oath yet.

More at link

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m4d4-Amy-Huizenga-hires-attorney-postpones-deposition-in-Casey-Anthony-case

Way back in April 2009 a deposition of Amy was postponed. Did one ever happen?

[Jillyb]

She has no priors, it's her first offense - yes she can get time served - she's never been caught before, so she could luck out

Sorry if Im a bit behind - even if she pleads wouldn't she still be a felon? Time served or not she isn't gittin out.

[sunstar]

More confusing info:

Prosecutors and Anthony's defense team will appear at a pre-trial hearing Thursday to address some of these issues.

The court and the State Attorney's Office are closed today due to the holiday.

Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland has not officially delayed the trial, which is scheduled to begin on Monday.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-hearing-delayed-20100118,0,4803524.story

I was wondering how all of this could've happened over a holiday weekend. And hopefully Judge Strickland won't delay it!

[oswald]

Well then he better instruct the defense to get that deposition ~ NOW! MOO

Can you see Baez in court 'um Judge, we've been so busy with the death penalty, we haven't had time to deal with the check case, we paid it back, can we just say 'donsey' and we'll move on....'

LOL

The thing about the check trial, Amy needs this conviction, for her credit and to set the bank and bills straight - then legally she can have her record expunged of the damage Casey did - it's like an identity theft trial, the person whose identity was stolen needs that conviction to get their identity back

[KatieLady]

I am not a happy camper :angry:

[sunstar]

Sorry if Im a bit behind - even if she pleads wouldn't she still be a felon? Time served or not she isn't gittin out.

Yes, unless the charges were reduced which I can't see the state doing with such overwhelming evidence against her (in the fraud case). MOO

[Aunt]

More confusing info:

Prosecutors and Anthony's defense team will appear at a pre-trial hearing Thursday to address some of these issues.

The court and the State Attorney's Office are closed today due to the holiday.

Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland has not officially delayed the trial, which is scheduled to begin on Monday.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/os-casey-anthony-hearing-delayed-20100118,0,4803524.story

Thanks very much for this link.

The defense is trying to PULL A FAST ONE, and I hope the Judge forces them to be in the courtroom and whip them BUT GOOD.
:cursing:

[sunstar]

Can you see Baez in court 'um Judge, we've been so busy with the death penalty, we haven't had time to deal with the check case, we paid it back, can we just say 'donsey' and we'll move on....'

LOL

Oh I could see him trying that, for sure!! :laugh: But doesn't he have any "help" in his office?

[oswald]

I know I said that Baez calls Judge S, Judge - that kinds of irks me - does the State do this? Shouldn't they be calling him Sir or Your Honor? Just Judge seems disrespectful - or is it just me

[Piratexox]

I just found this:

http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/trial-without-the-victim--what-will-happen--183026.html

Amy doesn't need to testify so she doesn't need to be subpoenaed by the defense. Hopefully this will be addressed this week.
Trying to keep positive here.

/Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking

[wasapi2]

I know I said that Baez calls Judge S, Judge - that kinds of irks me - does the State do this? Shouldn't they be calling him Sir or Your Honor? Just Judge seems disrespectful - or is it just me

No, it isn't just you. There is an air of disrespect, as if it is on the border of what he can get away with. I also think that Baez is a member of a legal community that finds him an embarrasment and feels contempt for him. I can't say that I blame them.

[AnnieKins]

I really really really didn't like OJ's lawyer, Yale Galanter. But he makes this bunch of defense lawyers look like Our Gang comic characters. He was always on time and had prepared what the judge said to have ready to go forward. No arguments, no excuses or motions of such, he was ready.

Jose is a fool and he just might find some fines if he continues this charade. JMHO

Insert praying hands icon here.

[oswald]

No, it isn't just you. There is an air of disrespect, as if it is on the border of what he can get away with. I also think that Baez is a member of a legal community that finds him an embarrasment and feels contempt for him. I can't say that I blame them.

Does the State call Judge S - just 'Judge'? I don't remember, guess we'll find out soon enough on Thursday

And yes I find Baez's demeanor disrespectful - but then so has Lyons - and she had to apologize twice in court also

[AnnieKins]

I just found this:

http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/trial-without-the-victim--what-will-happen--183026.html

Amy doesn't need to testify so she doesn't need to be subpoenaed by the defense. Hopefully this will be addressed this week.
Trying to keep positive here.

/Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking

OMH :lol: That made me laugh out loud!

[cassidy]

Insert praying hands icon here.

Make that 2. I'd like nothing better than to see that man get his public comeuppance.

[AnnieKins]

Make that 2. I'd like nothing better than to see that man get his public comeuppance.

Make that Baez and the Anthonys and it will be a great start to the new year.

[cassidy]

Make that Baez and the Anthonys and it will be a great start to the new year.

You got it! Wouldn't that be special :)

[oswald]

Make that Baez and the Anthonys and it will be a great start to the new year.

You know what will make a great start to this year? Confession for their immortal souls - Casey comes clean, makes a statement in court, she standing before the judge - saying she is incredibly sorry, confessing her sin and saying she will take her punishment - looking at her parents and apologizing for years of lying and theft - telling her friends she is sorry for bringing this into their lives

And then apologizing to the people who have followed this case

THAT will make a great year for Casey - could I have forgiveness? If it was truth felt, yes - first step is to admit her deed, ask for forgiveness and then gets the help she needs - because she needs help

Will this happen? NOPE! Never in a million years

[Sun]

http://www.wftv.com/news/22266893/detail.html

Casey Anthony's Status Hearing Delayed
5:03 pm EST January 18, 2010

This week's status hearing for Casey Anthony’s murder trial has been delayed until Monday January 25, the day her check fraud trial is scheduled to start. The defense had asked for a change of venue for that trial and there are reports that, since no hearings have been held on that issue, the defense also wants the check fraud trial to be put off.

[really3997]

what ever was suppose to happen in three days was just postponed per WFTV

[cassidy]

what ever was suppose to happen in three days was just postponed per WFTV
I want to now how they managed that today if the courthouse is closed?

[Sun]

I'm wondering if Casey is being kept in the loop about the changes to the upcoming hearings?

[Jillyb]

http://www.wftv.com/news/22266893/detail.html

Casey Anthony's Status Hearing Delayed
5:03 pm EST January 18, 2010

This week's status hearing for Casey Anthony’s murder trial has been delayed until Monday January 25, the day her check fraud trial is scheduled to start. The defense had asked for a change of venue for that trial and there are reports that, since no hearings have been held on that issue, the defense also wants the check fraud trial to be put off.

I have asked this before what is the limit for delay? Why can't judge Stan say ready or not here it comes. How long can the delay go?..it is just crazy.

[Sun]

I have asked this before what is the limit for delay? Why can't judge Stan say ready or not here it comes. How long can the delay go?..it is just crazy.

I have no idea. I do find it very suspect that Lyon has a book signing at 6 p.m. in Chicago on Jan 20th, and the pre-trial/status hearing was scheduled for Jan 21 at 10 a.m. (transporation from Chicago to Orlando seems a bit iffy to me). This just smells, IMO.

[Spots™]

I just found this:

http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/trial-without-the-victim--what-will-happen--183026.html

Amy doesn't need to testify so she doesn't need to be subpoenaed by the defense. Hopefully this will be addressed this week.
Trying to keep positive here.

/Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking

Verily.

If Stan reschedules, I'm rescheduling, too. It seems only fair......

[Jillyb]

I have no idea. I do find it very suspect that Lyon has a book signing at 6 p.m. in Chicago on Jan 20th, and the pre-trial/status hearing was scheduled for Jan 21 at 10 a.m. (transporation from Chicago to Orlando seems a bit iffy to me). This just smells, IMO.

This is what I'm talkin bout. Judge Stan has SOME authority doesn't he? How can a defense run the court? Something stinks i the trunk.

[Sun]

Verily.

If Stan reschedules, I'm rescheduling, too. It seems only fair......

seems fair.

[*MoonRider*]

I'm wondering if Casey is being kept in the loop about the changes to the upcoming hearings?

Casey stays up to date on her prison radio with her earbuds.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q13/jwi777/2250136914_aa094813d3.jpg

[Piratexox]

http://www.wftv.com/news/22266893/detail.html

Casey Anthony's Status Hearing Delayed
5:03 pm EST January 18, 2010

This week's status hearing for Casey Anthony’s murder trial has been delayed until Monday January 25, the day her check fraud trial is scheduled to start. The defense had asked for a change of venue for that trial and there are reports that, since no hearings have been held on that issue, the defense also wants the check fraud trial to be put off.

PATHETIC!!!

ABSOLUTLY OUTRAGEOUS!!


Judge Strickland is QUICKLY losing my respect.

/Grow a pair Stan

[*MoonRider*]

I think one of the news reports said that Stan Strickland has not ruled on this delay yet???...soooooo....here's hoping...

And I ain't givin up my drinking for nothin'...LOL

I'll have one for you. :thumbsup:

[Jillyb]

PATHETIC!!!

ABSOLUTLY OUTRAGEOUS!!


Judge Strickland is QUICKLY losing my respect.

/Grow a pair Stan

just baffling. I no get it.

[wasapi2]

PATHETIC!!!

ABSOLUTLY OUTRAGEOUS!!


Judge Strickland is QUICKLY losing my respect.

/Grow a pair Stan

It is outrageous. What ever happened to a fair and SPEEDY trial? I wonder if Judge Strickland is accepting this because he wants to make sure that there are absolutely no ground for mistrial and nothing of substance for an appeal. This seemed to be the case in another high-profile trial not long ago.

[Piratexox]

I think one of the news reports said that Stan Strickland has not ruled on this delay yet???...soooooo....here's hoping...

And I ain't givin up my drinking for nothin'...LOL

Thanks for the laugh.

It's really had not to get emotional in this case. Poor Caylee.

But I'll tell you what, if he's going to back down from his rulings I will be referring to him as "UN". Strong words but no action.

I hope you all see my frustration as passion for Caylee and Justice.

[oswald]

Okay, my daughter is having problems with money - she tells me she's at work - geez I want to believe her, right? So I tell her, 'don't go Casey Anthony on me!' she's all what? Lying about a job for years and stealing money to get around - my daughter laughs, no I'm not going Casey Anthony on you - STILL my daughter has lied before, I'm waiting for it again <stress!>:cursing: So that will be a new saying!!! 'Don't go Casey Anthony!'

[Spots™]

http://www.wftv.com/news/17914492/detail.html

Am I reading that right?

"The defense documents went on to describe Casey as troubled, possibly depressed. They said her behavior had been erratic ever since Caylee’s birth and particularly in the months before the little girl’s disappearance. The documents also said Casey’s lack of emotion after Caylee’s disappearance is proof that Casey is not normal and could possibly be suffering from mental or emotional stress."
<respectfully snipped>

Relax. This article is over a year old, published before Caylee's remains were found. This is the letter the *old* death penalty lawyer sent to LE to get the DP taken off the table.

Seems circumstances have changed in the last 14 months......

Which is not to say that Baez has wised up one iota since then.

[damienstoy]

Okay, my daughter is having problems with money - she tells me she's at work - geez I want to believe her, right? So I tell her, 'don't go Casey Anthony on me!' she's all what? Lying about a job for years and stealing money to get around - my daughter laughs, no I'm not going Casey Anthony on you - STILL my daughter has lied before, I'm waiting for it again <stress!>:cursing: So that will be a new saying!!! 'Don't go Casey Anthony!'

Hang in there Oswald. January is often a rough month. (I know I overspent for the holidays)

I'm certain she won't start forgetting her babies' daddies names.

[joint-heir]

I haven't checked in much lately, but in reading some of the posts, did I see someone say Caylee had a cranial problem of some kind and something about medical bills? I have never heard this and been around almost from the beginning. Thanks for any help on this.

[oswald]

Hang in there Oswald. January is often a rough month. (I know I overspent for the holidays)

I'm certain she won't start forgetting her babies' daddies names.

ROTFL!!! She has no children (thank God!) And she doesn't sleep around (thank God!) she lives with her boyfriend - she just needs to GROW UP! She's borrowed money from everyone, and it's a mess - as I tell her she won't pull up her big girl panties and own up to her mistakes and take care of them!

[A4everFriend]

It is outrageous. What ever happened to a fair and SPEEDY trial? I wonder if Judge Strickland is accepting this because he wants to make sure that there are absolutely no ground for mistrial and nothing of substance for an appeal. This seemed to be the case in another high-profile trial not long ago.

Exactly. Reminds me of the scripture that says, Mens hearts are set to do evil because justice is not executed speedily. And that is so true. If the death penalty was held over a persons head and trial brought speedily, murderers would think twice I think. Of course Casey wouldn't have, coz she is CaseyVIL. Comes natural for her.

[BettyC]

I haven't checked in much lately, but in reading some of the posts, did I see someone say Caylee had a cranial problem of some kind and something about medical bills? I have never heard this and been around almost from the beginning. Thanks for any help on this.

All speculation.

Good reading here:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=1358

[charmin 66]

I'm so frushtrated!!!

Richard Hornsby did blog about potential delays in the Fraud trail, and now that I want to reread it, his blog is poof gone.

:shrug: <--- insert fisties

[cassidy]

Maybe we ought to all hold our horses. Just who ruled to allow the delay today? The courts are closed and no one is working there. I don't get it.

JMO

[charmin 66]

What’s happening next? Good question
Caylee and Casey Anthony, Central Florida News 13, Orlando Sentinel, WESH, WFTV — posted by halboedeker on January, 18 2010 5:33 PM


There were a range of reports about Casey Anthony today.

WFTV-Channel 9 reported that a status hearing in her murder trial had been delayed to Monday. That is the day her check-fraud trial is supposed to start.

WESH-Channel 2 reminded viewers that her check-fraud trial is supposed to start Monday.

Central Florida News 13 reported that the check-fraud trial won’t happen next week. The cable news station cited sources who said depositions haven’t been taken; those sources also a said hearing in the Anthony murder case, scheduled for this week, won’t happen either.

The Sentinel reported that the check-fraud case is likely to be delayed because motions haven’t been addressed by the court, but that Orange Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland hasn’t officially delayed the trial. Yet prosecutors and Anthony’s defense team will appear at a pre-trial hearing Thursday to address some issues in the case, the Sentinel added.
We should learn more tomorrow. The court and the State Attorney’s Office are closed today for the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/01/casey-anthony-whats-happening-next-good-question.html

I'm loving these hour by hour updates!!!

[*PuffDragon*]

You know what will make a great start to this year? Confession for their immortal souls - Casey comes clean, makes a statement in court, she standing before the judge - saying she is incredibly sorry, confessing her sin and saying she will take her punishment - looking at her parents and apologizing for years of lying and theft - telling her friends she is sorry for bringing this into their lives

And then apologizing to the people who have followed this case

THAT will make a great year for Casey - could I have forgiveness? If it was truth felt, yes - first step is to admit her deed, ask for forgiveness and then gets the help she needs - because she needs help

Will this happen? NOPE! Never in a million years

My bold

Even if they hooked Casey up to a lie detector there's no way anyone would believe she was actually telling the truth. Any form of the truth. How would you know that her version of "coming clean" really was the way it happened? In fact, considering the source, I'd be more inclined to believe that it was notthe truth no matter how hard she tried to pretend that she'd had her "come to Jesus moment" and was admitting what she did and asking for forgiveness.

Remember, she doesn't believe she did anything wrong. Why would she ask for forgiveness?

Wait, there's actually an answer for that rhetorical question. She might do it after her conviction if she were convinced it would lessen her sentence. But she wouldn't mean it.

[oswald]

It was a 'what if' proposition - thats all :)

My bold

Even if they hooked Casey up to a lie detector there's no way anyone would believe she was actually telling the truth. Any form of the truth. How would you know that her version of "coming clean" really was the way it happened? In fact, considering the source, I'd be more inclined to believe that it was notthe truth no matter how hard she tried to pretend that she'd had her "come to Jesus moment" and was admitting what she did and asking for forgiveness.

Remember, she doesn't believe she did anything wrong. Why would she ask for forgiveness?

Wait, there's actually an answer for that rhetorical question. She might do it after her conviction if she were convinced it would lessen her sentence. But she wouldn't mean it.

[AnnieKins]

I have asked this before what is the limit for delay? Why can't judge Stan say ready or not here it comes. How long can the delay go?..it is just crazy.

That's my question too. If Baez were in elementary school and didn't have his project done on time, he'd be in trouble. But now he's wearing big-boy pants and he gets to do this? I just don't get it. :sad:

[*PuffDragon*]

It was a 'what if' proposition - thats all :)

Okay, so...... what if she did all that? Would you believe her?

[BlueTurtle]

If the defense does ask for a continuance on the criminal check/fraud trial, won't that be their third continuance? Would Amy then be able to file a right to a speedy trial? My memory is very faint on this, but I think that something like this was mentioned way back earlier last year. Does anyone remember, or is my memory failing me once again?

There was some debate about the three continuances. 2 happened in open court and the third was reported as being dealt with in camera. That last one was debatable. If this is delayed, it is the last one. I would hope the judge would say it is only delayed one week.

[BettyC]

Maybe we ought to all hold our horses. Just who ruled to allow the delay today? The courts are closed and no one is working there. I don't get it.

JMO

I'm with you cassidy. While the "rumor" may be true, I'll wait til Judge Strickland rules to believe it.

[ragdollcat]

Exactly. Reminds me of the scripture that says, Mens hearts are set to do evil because justice is not executed speedily. And that is so true. If the death penalty was held over a persons head and trial brought speedily, murderers would think twice I think. Of course Casey wouldn't have, coz she is CaseyVIL. Comes natural for her.

I couldn't agree more (the bolded statement).

If they knew the DP was right around the corner, not 15 years away, or maybe, probably NEVER, I think Death could really be a deterrent.

Sadly we have people like Andrea Lyons around who want to make sure the DP is so diluted it engenders no fear in criminals at all; the Angel of Death Row is going to fight to keep you alive, not to worry about that DP.

Got carried away, but to back up: you're right :thumbup: and you make a great point.:smile:

[Chardonnay]

I'm re-listening to the Aug 14th fistie jail visit, and KC made a comment about all she does all day is read and "look up stuff for my case".
Does the jail have a law library like prisons? Or does Jose bring her stuff to research? This visit is so amazing. Not one time did she ask how the search for Caylee is going. Not giving suggestions on how the search should go. And to say, that that day, Aug 14th, was the first day that she has been upset or cried since Caylee went "missing"...:cursing:

[denjet]

Update on Andrea's book signing

The college news site "Demon Tracks" (LOL) still has her at a book signing Jan 20- 6:00 p.m.
Barnes and Noble, 1 East Jackson Blvd, Chicago, IL 60614 (DePaul U store)
So I called B&N and got the number ... I called the store and it's still scheduled for Wed at 6 pm

http://depauldemontracks.wordpress.com/

[oswald]

Okay, so...... what if she did all that? Would you believe her?

Not sure - I'd have to see if she was reading from a script (no pun intended LOL) You can tell when someone is speaking from the gut - when you watching them you can just tell if they are telling the truth

It would all depend on her

I try very hard not to hate - hate will consume you and it's not for the good - so yeah I don't like Casey, I don't like the A's, I don't like Baez or Lyons - but you know what? It doesn't consume me to hate them - they have problems, BIG problems - but they aren't my problems

All I can do is put this whole thing together as a puzzle - see if I can figure it out

Can I forgive her (or them?) it would depend on her and them

[SayWhen]

I just found this:

http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/trial-without-the-victim--what-will-happen--183026.html

Amy doesn't need to testify so she doesn't need to be subpoenaed by the defense. Hopefully this will be addressed this week.
Trying to keep positive here.

/Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking

ROFL!!! :lol:

[Sun]

Update on Andrea's book signing

The college news site "Demon Tracks" (LOL) still has her at a book signing Jan 20- 6:00 p.m.
Barnes and Noble, 1 East Jackson Blvd, Chicago, IL 60614 (DePaul U store)
So I called B&N and got the number ... I called the store and it's still scheduled for Wed at 6 pm

http://depauldemontracks.wordpress.com/

You have verified something that I was wondering about. Thank you so very much.

[*PuffDragon*]

Not sure - I'd have to see if she was reading from a script (no pun intended LOL) You can tell when someone is speaking from the gut - when you watching them you can just tell if they are telling the truth

It would all depend on her

I try very hard not to hate - hate will consume you and it's not for the good - so yeah I don't like Casey, I don't like the A's, I don't like Baez or Lyons - but you know what? It doesn't consume me to hate them - they have problems, BIG problems - but they aren't my problems

All I can do is put this whole thing together as a puzzle - see if I can figure it out

Can I forgive her (or them?) it would depend on her and them

My bold

That's really not always true you know. Some people are so good at lying that you really can't tell they're doing it. Ted Bundy had everybody buffaloed, even LE, lawyers, and doctors. Sociopaths don't have any built-in conscience so when they lie it doesn't mean any more to them than if they were telling you what day it is, there won't be any little tipoffs in their manner. And if they actually don't believe they are lying they will tell their stories with complete sincerity. There's not really any defense again that, you just have to assume that anything they say is a lie, because it probably is.

PS, I don't hate any of them. I don't care about them at all. It's just an amusing occupation to watch them squirm and lie and be stupid. But they get no benefit of the doubt from me, they ran out of credibility a long time ago.

[denjet]

You have verified something that I was wondering about. Thank you so very much.

Anytime!
But this trial thing is giving me a headache !!!

I'm confused by what the different news sites are reporting ... some are saying the fraud trial on Monday isn't going to happen but the pre-trial this Thursday is going to (Sentinel), and that motions still have to be heard for the fraud one ... one said this Thursday's was moved to Monday (WFTV)... ???? Another said the pre-trial is set for Thurday and expects a trial date to be set and that the fraud trial is still on (WESH) and yet another said they're both off (CFnews 13)

DID I MISS ANYTHING ????????? :blink:

And of course nothing at the clerk's office yet to confirm any of this ...

How are we supposed to clear OUR schedules with that kind of info ??? :unsure:

[hello its me]

Anytime!
But this trial thing is giving me a headache !!!

I'm confused by what the different news sites are reporting ... some are saying the fraud trial on Monday isn't going to happen but the pre-trial this Thursday is going to (Sentinel), and that motions still have to be heard for the fraud one ... one said this Thursday's was moved to Monday (WFTV)... ???? Another said the pre-trial is set for Thurday and expects a trial date to be set and that the fraud trial is still on (WESH) and yet another said they're both off (CFnews 13)

DID I MISS ANYTHING ????????? :blink:

And of course nothing at the clerk's office yet to confirm any of this ...

How are we supposed to clear OUR schedules with that kind of info ??? :unsure:

sounds like Mrs. Jose left the phone in the room. It's got Baez all over it. Confusing? check. Wrong? check. Annoying? check. Baez.

[oswald]

I'm going to disagree - but thats just me



My bold

That's really not always true you know. Some people are so good at lying that you really can't tell they're doing it. Ted Bundy had everybody buffaloed, even LE, lawyers, and doctors. Sociopaths don't have any built-in conscience so when they lie it doesn't mean any more to them than if they were telling you what day it is, there won't be any little tipoffs in their manner. And if they actually don't believe they are lying they will tell their stories with complete sincerity. There's not really any defense again that, you just have to assume that anything they say is a lie, because it probably is.

PS, I don't hate any of them. I don't care about them at all. It's just an amusing occupation to watch them squirm and lie and be stupid. But they get no benefit of the doubt from me, they ran out of credibility a long time ago.

[denjet]

sounds like Mrs. Jose left the phone in the room. It's got Baez all over it. Confusing? check. Wrong? check. Annoying? check. Baez.

:lol: Thanks for the explanation! I knew it came from SOMEONE who's obviously mentally challenged!

[*PuffDragon*]

I'm going to disagree - but thats just me

That's okay, everybody doesn't see everything the same way. This would be a way boring board and no new ideas would be born if we all agreed all the time.

[Sun]

Anytime!
But this trial thing is giving me a headache !!!

I'm confused by what the different news sites are reporting ... some are saying the fraud trial on Monday isn't going to happen but the pre-trial this Thursday is going to (Sentinel), and that motions still have to be heard for the fraud one ... one said this Thursday's was moved to Monday (WFTV)... ???? Another said the pre-trial is set for Thurday and expects a trial date to be set and that the fraud trial is still on (WESH) and yet another said they're both off (CFnews 13)

DID I MISS ANYTHING ????????? :blink:

And of course nothing at the clerk's office yet to confirm any of this ...

How are we supposed to clear OUR schedules with that kind of info ??? :unsure:

I've always been of a mindset that Casey would change her pleas in the criminal check/fraud case before actually going through a complete trial. So for me, the Jan 25th date was always a very iffy thing. I did however, plan on there being a court hearing on Jan 21 (as that one was set a long, long time ago and was a pretrial/status hearing). Once I learned of Lyon's book signing on Jan 20th in Chicago, I began to wonder if the court hearing would happen though.

[Sun]

Gee, and Casey stocked up on shampoo, conditioner, lotion, and hair ties in December. Will she be disappointed if she doesn't get to sit in front of the cameras this month? :rolleyes:

[denjet]

I've always been of a mindset that Casey would change her pleas in the criminal check/fraud case before actually going through a complete trial. So for me, the Jan 25th date was always a very iffy thing. I did however, plan on there being a court hearing on Jan 21 (as that one was set a long, long time ago and was a pretrial/status hearing). Once I learned of Lyon's book signing on Jan 20th in Chicago, I began to wonder if the court hearing would happen though.

I kept the phone number and intend to call each day to see if she's cancelled her book signing

[sunstar]

I just found this:

http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/trial-without-the-victim--what-will-happen--183026.html

Amy doesn't need to testify so she doesn't need to be subpoenaed by the defense. Hopefully this will be addressed this week.
Trying to keep positive here.

/Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop drinking

Thanks so much for finding that. I was wondering why they'd need to depose her since the evidence is on videotape. Are they going to say AH gave Casey permission to (illegally) spend all her money?

[ragdollcat]

I've always been of a mindset that Casey would change her pleas in the criminal check/fraud case before actually going through a complete trial. So for me, the Jan 25th date was always a very iffy thing. I did however, plan on there being a court hearing on Jan 21 (as that one was set a long, long time ago and was a pretrial/status hearing). Once I learned of Lyon's book signing on Jan 20th in Chicago, I began to wonder if the court hearing would happen though.

I just don't see how there can be a check fraud trial. She might enter a guilty plea, but the defense just can't put on a trial.

Depositions? Jose says they haven't taken depositions yet. OH my, that should take a couple hours max, more like 15 minutes I'd say. He's got a couple people to verify the Target tapes, and -- who else? Who else can he depose or put on the stand for the fraud case? Casey herself? I don't think even Jose Baez would take that chance. I think she'd take the chance, because she thinks she's believable, but no attorney would let her on the stand.

So...I think and have thought like you that it's always been "iffy" too -- and I don't see it happening at all, now.

There ought to be a status hearing though; maybe that's still on.

I'm sure the judge has a real good reason to do what he's allegedly doing with these trials and dates. After a while though, and after what he said at the last motion trial, I thought he meant what he said, about one way or another there was going to be a resolution of the check fraud trial in January.

Maybe there will be, maybe they're working on a resolution. But it won't be a trial, I'm sure of it.

[joint-heir]

All speculation.

Good reading here:

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/?p=1358





Thanks BettyC! I had not seen this article.
Just finished reading article and a lot of the comments! I would say heavy speculation. Pictures many times do not tell a whole story. I would also love to hear Dr G's opinion of how she feels Caylee died. I might believe more of this if she was of this opinion. I know there can be dark sides to things, but I would still pray that Casey has a change of heart and reveals how things happened and was truly repentant. I am convinced she is guilty, but what a load this would be off her if she could do this. I am optimistic about people's abilities to turn their lives around with the Lord. Even with life in prison or the death penalty, she could have peace. And give many others the ability to go on with their lives.

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Update on Andrea's book signing

The college news site "Demon Tracks" (LOL) still has her at a book signing Jan 20- 6:00 p.m.
Barnes and Noble, 1 East Jackson Blvd, Chicago, IL 60614 (DePaul U store)
So I called B&N and got the number ... I called the store and it's still scheduled for Wed at 6 pm

http://depauldemontracks.wordpress.com/

AL doesn't need to be around for anything to do with the check/fraud trial, but I'd think she would be for the pre-trial on the murder charge, if that's still happening on Thursday. So either she plans to take a red-eye flight to Orlando or the hearing's off? :shrug: