View Full Version : Obama Breaks Down Why We Need Separation of Church & State
LisaM22
01-14-2010, 04:58 PM
"Obama Breaks Down Why We Need Separation of Church & State"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdB1_KFOhnU&NR=1
LisaM22
01-14-2010, 05:00 PM
course not sure he still feels that way or not, is Obama now a part of the Fellowship?
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/06/24/sanford-cites-secretive-christian-groups-role-in-helping-confront-affair.html
"The Fellowship is the group behind the National Prayer Breakfast, where President Obama rolled out his Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships earlier this year."
LisaM22
01-14-2010, 05:22 PM
"Rachel Maddow - C Street Overview & Steve Largent: What accountability?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NO4gWfCM8os
LisaM22
01-14-2010, 05:30 PM
"Spread the word about the Obama Fellowship Program"
http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/fellowsinvite
LisaM22
01-14-2010, 05:33 PM
"Hillary's Prayer Cell-Part Of "The Fellowship""
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=388x3566
LisaM22
01-23-2010, 03:45 PM
and of course we have Obama's faith based initiatives that he could of easily made community based initiatives if he truly honored separation of church and state
LisaM22
01-23-2010, 10:01 PM
Sadly Obama continued the Bush faith based policy, I would really like to see how much and where that money is going, how much is going to the community, where people can go to get access to these funds meant to help the community, ect... they are our tax dollars, we should all have access to those funds in out times of need, no matter our religious beliefs, I have no doubt some are getting some good works for our forced donations, but how are we verifying that we the tax payers are getting as much good works from the church as we are paying for? what are the governments checks and balances with the church, there also needs to be a place online that we can see what churches got what funds for what purpose in say a 50 mile radius of our zip code - how can people use the funds if they do not know they exist
Carol25
01-23-2010, 10:58 PM
Sadly Obama continued the Bush faith based policy, I would really like to see how much and where that money is going, how much is going to the community, where people can go to get access to these funds meant to help the community, ect... they are our tax dollars, we should all have access to those funds in out times of need, no matter our religious beliefs, I have no doubt some are getting some good works for our forced donations, but how are we verifying that we the tax payers are getting as much good works from the church as we are paying for? what are the governments checks and balances with the church, there also needs to be a place online that we can see what churches got what funds for what purpose in say a 50 mile radius of our zip code - how can people use the funds if they do not know they exist
Bingo! Separation of church would mean the state does not line the coffers of any church or it's church based projects. That should be coming from the people.
Wonder how much could be replaced in our account to lessen our deficit if we stopped these initiatiatives. for that matter, as hard nosed as I am. I would NOT send any money to other countries until we get our economy in order.
Then once we would like to help other countries, we can send our people over there to work the construction and handle the purse strings. How much of the US money goes to corruption in other countries.
Charity is nice, but being a fool is risky.
LisaM22
01-24-2010, 06:06 AM
Bingo! Separation of church would mean the state does not line the coffers of any church or it's church based projects. That should be coming from the people.
Wonder how much could be replaced in our account to lessen our deficit if we stopped these initiatiatives. for that matter, as hard nosed as I am. I would NOT send any money to other countries until we get our economy in order.
Then once we would like to help other countries, we can send our people over there to work the construction and handle the purse strings. How much of the US money goes to corruption in other countries.
Charity is nice, but being a fool is risky.
yep, it's all a mystery, who gets the money, how much is given away and why they give the money and why no one is ever told the money is there if they need it, crazy
LisaM22
02-04-2010, 11:44 PM
Obama calls out those who "question" his faith
http://mediamatters.org/research/201002040036?lid=1094764&rid=41424423
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Obama said
Empowered by faith, consistently, prayerfully, we need to find our way back to civility. That begins with stepping out of our comfort zones in an effort to bridge divisions. We see that in many conservative pastors who are helping lead the way to fix our broken immigration system. It's not what would be expected from them, and yet they recognize, in those immigrant families, the face of God. We see that in the evangelical leaders who are rallying their congregations to protect our planet."
one year ago at the National Prayer Breakfast Obama rolled out his faith based initiatives, now at this years Prayer Breakfast Obama calls out those who "question" his faith
is this the same Obama we saw in the video of the opening post of this thread?
"Obama Breaks Down Why We Need Separation of Church & State"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdB1_KFOhnU&NR=1
Is this the Obama faith based Agenda? paying pastors to fix our broken immigration system?
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