6 Year Olds Death Ruled Suicide....

[Moondust]

http://www.newsregister.com/article/42857-child039s+death+labeled+suicide


McMinnville 6-year-old Samantha Kuberski, found unresponsive Dec. 2 with a child's blanket and belt wrapped around her neck, committed suicide by hanging, according Deputy State Medical Examiner Dr. Clifford Nelson.

"It's not common, but basically, the investigation led to this conclusion," Nelson said.





I don't buy it....I won't buy it....you'll never convince me that a child this age will think out and commit suicide...:crying:

[birdwatch]

But she may have been trying to copy one of her older siblings doing the "choking game" that has killed so many children. Or - perhaps one of the older siblings did something..... Just too sad.

[Lynx]

Terribly sad! I do not buy the suicide bit....not at 6 years old!

[tootie]

Oh this is terrible. I don't believe suicide either. God Bless her and her family. :(

[kitty1182]

I don't buy it either...
So sad:sad:

[Humdinger]

With so many children on anti-depressants and other medications nowadays, who knows what the truth is here or what the child may have been on as far as medications.

Either way, it's terribly sad on its own, but coupled with the fact that this family already has a disabled daughter besides the one now deceased, it's ghastly to consider their grief. :crying:

[Patriot]

Count me in as another one who doesn't believe it. Regardless, how tragic.

[Moondust]

I really can't fathom it being accidental either..not at the childs hands....why would there be both a blanket and a belt around her neck?? IMO, someone put the blanket around her neck first so bruising wouldn't show from the belt...maybe they weren't aiming to kill her...just quite her maybe....:unsure:

[Mandysmom]

I saw a documentary on HBO recently about a child who was suffering from bi polar illness I believe at a very early age and he attempted suicide when very young.

He finally succeeded in killing himself when he was 15. Very sad.

http://www.hbo.com/docs/docuseries/boyinterrupted/index.html

There are many children suffering from this mood disorder even at very early ages. :sad:

[Debb]

It's hard to say what really happened. I hope they find out. I wonder if she had ever talked about dying or being depressed. The reason I say this is that about a year ago I saw an HBO documentary about a young man who committed suicide. (It's called Boy Interrupted) He had talked about killing himself since he was a young child. He tried to jump off of the roof of his school at age 11. He talked often about how he wanted to die.

They even had video tape of him talking about death. He acted out death scenes and was under psychiatric care from a young age. He was diagnoised as bi-polar at an early age. Unfortunately, he did kill himself by the time he was a teen. His uncle had also committed suicide and mental illness was common in his family.

If this girl had no prior history of speaking of death or depression, I would ask for a more thorough investigation. Could some unknown person slipped into the house and done it?

[Debb]

I saw a documentary on HBO recently about a child who was suffering from bi polar illness I believe at a very early age and he attempted suicide when very young.

He finally succeeded in killing himself when he was 15. Very sad.

http://www.hbo.com/docs/docuseries/boyinterrupted/index.html

There are many children suffering from this mood disorder even at very early ages. :sad:


I think we were posting at the same time! (See mine above)

That program was very sad. I had to see it to believe it.

[Moondust]

About an unknown person slipping in the house, Deb...I don't know...I'm wondering about the father. It stated he was in the area at the time but not at the house...:unsure:...am thinking this is something he may have done before he left the house...jmo

Sad about the bi-polar boy in the documentary...:rose:

[Moondust]

The article has been updated....police are raising questions now...


http://www.newsregister.com/article/42857-child039s+death+labeled+suicide


Tuesday, however, a spokesman for McMinnville Police Department went public with questions about whether the young girl's death actually was an intentional suicide. It's rare for local authorities to take issue with findings of the state Medical Examiner's Office, but that appears to the situation with this case.

[Deb7]

What is questionable, is how could she wrap a blanket around her head and then a belt and then find her way around to hang herself? I don't buy this story and thank goodness the police are questioning it now too.

[Mandysmom]

I think we were posting at the same time! (See mine above)

That program was very sad. I had to see it to believe it.
I think we were too Debb. That was a terrible story and so sad.

IIRC, he was talking about death and dying and was obsessed with dark thoughts even at the ages of 4-5.

I cried for what seemed like forever after watching it.

:sad:

[Debb]

I think we were too Debb. That was a terrible story and so sad.

IIRC, he was talking about death and dying and was obsessed with dark thoughts even at the ages of 4-5.

I cried for what seemed like forever after watching it.

:sad:

It was sad. Did you think it was odd that in light of his history and the fact they were allowing him to come off his meds, they let him live in a room with a laundry chute. Maybe, I'm reading too much into it. I just found that part of the whole story quite strange. I would think that kind of contraption would be a safety risk for any family with children, but especially one with a history of suicide. I'm not saying that it could have been prevented. It just struck me as odd.

[Casecase]

I remember reading a story probably 20 years ago about a young boy, about 6 or so, who hung himself with a belt. They determined that he was trying to reenact something he had seen on a cartoon.


IMO

[R~O~S]

Nearly 45 years ago, a good friend & playmate of my spouse hanged himself, he was only 7 years old.

He was playing Cowboys and Indians, it wasn't an intentional suicide although it could have been seen that way had there not been witnesses. He hung a noose from a tree, stood on a trash can & put it around his neck. The trash can toppled over.

I wonder if the ME just overstepped what can be proven scientifically and stated as fact something he couldn't possibly know.

I'm not entirely certain a child this young is capable of suicide. They don't yet understand the concept of death, how can they form the intent to cause their own death?

[Moondust]

I may have been able to buy an accidental "suicide" if she didn't have both a blanket wrapped around her head and then the belt.

I think the ME was very negligent in his ruling and I trully hope LE will find a way to get around the ME.

[bugout]

This is horrible but I would not be surprised to find out the children were playing some kind of "game"....

It sounds to me like someone else wrapped her; it's hard to imagine this was a suicide. :( Very sad. :rose: