Caylee Anthony 1/5/10 - 1/6/10

[ellegna]

Good morning everyone :seeya:

New day. New thread

Casey check fraud trial is set for January 25/10
20 days to go :thumbup:

[Kathlb]

Good Morning ellegna!
Thank you for starting today's thread. Well, it's a bit quiet other than Jose and LKB hitting the airways again. At least we haven't had to hear from the Anthonys for a little while. They must be furious that all of their silly motions were denied. That needs to happen until the trial. Maybe they will then learn how to construct one...but maybe not.

Chilly here in the south. We got below freezing last night and there is a chance of snow flurries. Now that's rare on the beach. :w00t:

[kakax]

Good Morning ellegna!
Thank you for starting today's thread. Well, it's a bit quiet other than Jose and LKB hitting the airways again. At least we haven't had to hear from the Anthonys for a little while. They must be furious that all of their silly motions were denied. That needs to happen until the trial. Maybe they will then learn how to construct one...but maybe not.

Chilly here in the south. We got below freezing last night and there is a chance of snow flurries. Now that's rare on the beach. :w00t:


Where did they hit the airwaves...I missed that in my zeal to find out more about the other perfect mother, Holly.

[Kathlb]

Where did they hit the airwaves...I missed that in my zeal to find out more about the other perfect mother, Holly.

LOL, it was Vinnie on In Session tv. He had them both on the phone. More blathering. There is a Youtube video of it. I'll find the link...just a sec.

[kakax]

LOL, it was Vinnie on In Session tv. He had them both on the phone. More blathering. There is a Youtube video of it. I'll find the link...just a sec.

Thanks, Kath! Good morning! (__)? coffee for your efforts!

[Kathlb]

Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLX3WOrEiIY

Thank you! I need it this morning. :-)

[BJames]

Good morning to all :smile:

Minus 15 here in the great white north !

I just finished reading the thread from yesterday, it is really amazing how much 'information' has come out in the past year. This jury is going to have a lot to wrap their minds around come trial, I have absorbed it over a long period of time as it has unfolded...they won't have that 'luxury'.
I know the THC/pot thing on the paper towels has been beaten to death...my guess tho? They were probably used to clean up spilled bong water ...it happens (not that I would know !)

I am looking forward to the fraud charges...my guess is Miss Anthony will be her same self...compared to a murder charge this will seem like a walk in the park for her.

Just my opinion of course...

[FindAnswers]

Thanks, Kath! Good morning! (__)? coffee for your efforts!

Can i have some of that coffee? lol (I think that was coffee in that cup anyway) :laugh:

[Kathlb]

Good morning to all :smile:

Minus 15 here in the great white north !

I just finished reading the thread from yesterday, it is really amazing how much 'information' has come out in the past year. This jury is going to have a lot to wrap their minds around come trial, I have absorbed it over a long period of time as it has unfolded...they won't have that 'luxury'.
I know the THC/pot thing on the paper towels has been beaten to death...my guess tho? They were probably used to clean up spilled bong water ...it happens (not that I would know !)

I am looking forward to the fraud charges...my guess is Miss Anthony will be her same self...compared to a murder charge this will seem like a walk in the park for her.

Just my opinion of course...

Good morning BJames~ cold here too and that's rare. Had to drip the faucets last night and probably will tonight too. I now remember why I moved south. :w00t:

Thanks for your "unpracticed knowledge" on the bong water. ;-) I can't believe we're finally going to see a hearing this month. I wonder if the def. will actually be ready? They seem so unprepared. I will be anxious to watch it.

[Kathlb]

Can i have some of that coffee? lol (I think that was coffee in that cup anyway) :laugh:

Be my guest Find... I think we have plenty but we won't make much sense until the third cup. LOL

[GossipGirl]

I just read that BF interview, and, besides having to work around his ebonics, I found it insightful.
I dont think he knew anything at all, and was getting a little curious about where Caylee was.
I think Casey made up a bunch of lies to tell him and he had no reason not to believe them.
GG

[FindAnswers]

Be my guest Find... I think we have plenty but we won't make much sense until the third cup. LOL

Thank goodness you know and understand. lol :laugh:

[Kathlb]

I just read that BF interview, and, besides having to work around his ebonics, I found it insightful.
I dont think he knew anything at all, and was getting a little curious about where Caylee was.
I think Casey made up a bunch of lies to tell him and he had no reason not to believe them.
GG

I guess like everyone else at the very beginning, no one had any reason to think she wasn't telling the truth. Little did we know how devious and cruel she is/was. But we learned along with everyone else, just how much of a liar and much more we had before us. We know now!!! :crying:

[kakax]

Can i have some of that coffee? lol (I think that was coffee in that cup anyway) :laugh:

Sure...and I will never tell what it is spiked with!! haha

(______)? extra large cup!!

[ellegna]

Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLX3WOrEiIY

Thank you! I need it this morning. :-)

Thanks for the link

JB's repetitious "It's very complex and it will come out in trial" is not only getting very stale but a pretty lame response if you ask me. :sneaky:

[kakax]

Here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLX3WOrEiIY

Thank you! I need it this morning. :-)

Well that was a lot of blah, blah, blah!

I love how Jose says in one breath we are going to try this case in court while he is on live television!

[kakax]

I just read that BF interview, and, besides having to work around his ebonics, I found it insightful.
I dont think he knew anything at all, and was getting a little curious about where Caylee was.
I think Casey made up a bunch of lies to tell him and he had no reason not to believe them.
GG

Morning GG!

I think Casey was very lucky that the people she hung around didn't have children so it was much easier to con them into thinking Caylee was with a Nanny. All of us that do have kids, would have been on her like white on rice!

[Kathlb]

I came across the Todd Malacuso interview. This is part one where they are discussing the fact Casey had 8 members of the "dream team". And I am so wanting to hear the deals that have been made for money. There is no way that some of them are just using it to further their career and not expecting payment. (discounting Jose who had no big cases...or many cases at all) under his belt. There is a huge story behind the scenes where the money is going to come from. The Anthony team has had to admit to a book deal...wonder what the rest of them will get and if it will be legal since they are defending her?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rYFcYVjApg&feature=related

[FindAnswers]

Sure...and I will never tell what it is spiked with!! haha

(______)? extra large cup!!

If it is anti freeze I have witnesses. lol :tonguewag: Gulp Gulp.

[Kathlb]

Well that was a lot of blah, blah, blah!

I love how Jose says in one breath we are going to try this case in court while he is on live television!

He reminds me of Prof. Irwin Corey if anyone remembers him...the double talk expert. He was on Johnny Carson alot. Jose has at least learned one thing...how to double talk. :glare:

[kakax]

If it is anti freeze I have witnesses. lol :tonguewag: Gulp Gulp.

More like Baileys...don't want to kill off my board friends...I need someone to talk to!!

[FindAnswers]

More like Baileys...don't want to kill off my board friends...I need someone to talk to!!

I'm spitting coffee everywhere. ruining yet another keyboard. You owe me big time lady. lmao Ha Ha lol :tonguewag: (Only joking)

[kakax]

I'm spitting coffee everywhere. ruining yet another keyboard. You owe me big time lady. lmao Ha Ha lol :tonguewag: (Only joking)


Happens many times a day to me here! lol

I'm so hoping for a doc dump this week. We really need something new to discuss!!!

[cassidy]

Well that was a lot of blah, blah, blah!

I love how Jose says in one breath we are going to try this case in court while he is on live television!


BBM

No kidding! How many shows have the prosecution team been on Jose?

[SandyO]

Good morning BJames~ cold here too and that's rare. Had to drip the faucets last night and probably will tonight too. I now remember why I moved south. :w00t:

Thanks for your "unpracticed knowledge" on the bong water. ;-) I can't believe we're finally going to see a hearing this month. I wonder if the def. will actually be ready? They seem so unprepared. I will be anxious to watch it.

I have the sense Judge Strickland expects them to work something out, something like a nolo-contrendre plea, or even possibly a guilty plea, to the financial charges before this ever goes to trial. Have you heard anything at all about calling a jury for this trial yet? Actually, even if Casey sticks with her not guilty stance, this trial should last about ten minutes, or as long as it takes to play the videos.

[really3997]

BBM

No kidding! How many shows have the prosecution team been on Jose?

Just that one......oh wait that was a motion hearing. :thumbsup:

[Sun]

I came across the Todd Malacuso interview. This is part one where they are discussing the fact Casey had 8 members of the "dream team". And I am so wanting to hear the deals that have been made for money. There is no way that some of them are just using it to further their career and not expecting payment. (discounting Jose who had no big cases...or many cases at all) under his belt. There is a huge story behind the scenes where the money is going to come from. The Anthony team has had to admit to a book deal...wonder what the rest of them will get and if it will be legal since they are defending her?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rYFcYVjApg&feature=related

You are right. I think that several of these folks do believe that they'll receive payment for their time and effort. Here is an old link about an investigation by channel 6 into DCasey's and background.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpFaxOPQseM

[cassidy]

Just that one......oh wait that was a motion hearing. :thumbsup:

I think you just hit on Jose's logic. They were in court, a motion was being tried and the media was present. Therefore they were trying the case in the media :w00t: Not good that I can think like Jose.

JMO

[really3997]

I know that there was a question over the holidays if there was anything left at the memorial site and at the time the answer was no. Since I drove my kids to school today I noticed some artificial flowers and a wreath. Very colorful not sure who put them there or how long they will stay.....Just thought I would let you guys know

:crying:

[BJames]

Just a question if anyone knows?

After a jury is seated in the fraud charges and the trial begins..would Casey be able to change her plea to guilty (maybe with a reason?...not that it would be the 'truth'), at what point would she be able to use no contest (with a reason ?)...would that have to be before the jury is seated? Or could it be between the jury seating and the beginning of the trial itself? Or...at any point during the trial...?
I am just wondering how much time (and money) could be 'wasted' and then Ms. Anthony might just change her mind?
Thanks for anyone who knows...

[Sun]

I know that there was a question over the holidays if there was anything left at the memorial site and at the time the answer was no. Since I drove my kids to school today I noticed some artificial flowers and a wreath. Very colorful not sure who put them there or how long they will stay.....Just thought I would let you guys know

:crying:

thanks, really!

brrrrrrrr it's cold here in Indiana. I've got a fresh pot of coffee brewing.

[SandyO]

I know that there was a question over the holidays if there was anything left at the memorial site and at the time the answer was no. Since I drove my kids to school today I noticed some artificial flowers and a wreath. Very colorful not sure who put them there or how long they will stay.....Just thought I would let you guys know

:crying:

Thanks, really. You are going to be the most popular board member when things get going here, if you aren't already!

[Sun]

Just a question if anyone knows?

After a jury is seated in the fraud charges and the trial begins..would Casey be able to change her plea to guilty (maybe with a reason?...not that it would be the 'truth'), at what point would she be able to use no contest (with a reason ?)...would that have to be before the jury is seated? Or could it be between the jury seating and the beginning of the trial itself? Or...at any point during the trial...?
I am just wondering how much time (and money) could be 'wasted' and then Ms. Anthony might just change her mind?
Thanks for anyone who knows...

I have no clue. I can imagine Casey having fisties and refusing to admit that anything is "her fault." :wink:

[SandyO]

Just a question if anyone knows?

After a jury is seated in the fraud charges and the trial begins..would Casey be able to change her plea to guilty (maybe with a reason?...not that it would be the 'truth'), at what point would she be able to use no contest (with a reason ?)...would that have to be before the jury is seated? Or could it be between the jury seating and the beginning of the trial itself? Or...at any point during the trial...?
I am just wondering how much time (and money) could be 'wasted' and then Ms. Anthony might just change her mind?
Thanks for anyone who knows...

I don't know about Florida, but I have certainly heard of cases where the defendant changed his/her plea even right in the middle of trial. I think she can change it at ANY time.

[really3997]

Thanks, really. You are going to be the most popular board member when things get going here, if you aren't already!

Oh my thats a tall order:wink:

[Tia]

I know that there was a question over the holidays if there was anything left at the memorial site and at the time the answer was no. Since I drove my kids to school today I noticed some artificial flowers and a wreath. Very colorful not sure who put them there or how long they will stay.....Just thought I would let you guys know

:crying:

Aww, that really is sad.
thanks for sharing that.

[puzzler]

Good Morning, everyone.:smile:

When watching Casey's bond hearing again the other day, I noticed something Baez did while questioning Yuri Melich. I am no lawyer, but....Baez is asking Melich about before Casey's arrest and the interview where she told all the lies, and the wild goose chase she took them on, and he keeps asking Melich if Casey asked for a lawyer and Melich says no each time. Baez, everytime he asks him says, but she could have, and each time Melich says yes. And each time Baez says, but she didn't, did she, and Melch says no. Baez is trying to drive home the fact that Casey was "voluntarily and freely" speaking to police. (I guess) Seems to me that ultimately what he has done is prevented the defense from trying to get the statements thrown out!

Hope this makes sense, and am I all wet?

:confused:

[SandyO]

Good Morning, everyone.:smile:

When watching Casey's bond hearing again the other day, I noticed something Baez did while questioning Yuri Melich. I am no lawyer, but....Baez is asking Melich about before Casey's arrest and the interview where she told all the lies, and the wild goose chase she took them on, and he keeps asking Melich if Casey asked for a lawyer and Melich says no each time. Baez, everytime he asks him says, but she could have, and each time Melich says yes. And each time Baez says, but she didn't, did she, and Melch says no. Baez is trying to drive home the fact that Casey was "voluntarily and freely" speaking to police. (I guess) Seems to me that ultimately what he has done is prevented the defense from trying to get the statements thrown out!

Hope this makes sense, and am I all wet?

:confused:

It's a very interesting observation, and astute of you to pick up on it. I feel sure they will try to wangle some way to claim Casey didn't get her due "rights" ---- among other ridiculous claims.

[FindAnswers]

really. Thank you for the information. :smile:

[cassidy]

Good Morning, everyone.:smile:

Hope this makes sense, and am I all wet?

:confused:

****snipped****

Makes sense to me and I hope you're right! Wouldn't surprise me if Jose shot himself in the foot.

JMO

[puzzler]

It's a very interesting observation, and astute of you to pick up on it. I feel sure they will try to wangle some way to claim Casey didn't get her due "rights" ---- among other ridiculous claims.

I feel the same, that's why I think Baez made a big mistake in his questioning of Melich. Imagine that.:w00t:

They will probably say that Casey didn't even know that she could have asked for a lawyer. I always heard ignorance of the law was not an excuse. Besides, she was playing the VICTIM. :angry:

I hope they are not sucessful at getting any of it thrown out!

[ellegna]

I know that there was a question over the holidays if there was anything left at the memorial site and at the time the answer was no. Since I drove my kids to school today I noticed some artificial flowers and a wreath. Very colorful not sure who put them there or how long they will stay.....Just thought I would let you guys know

:crying:

TY for update. :crying: so sad

Has that property been sold yet?

[Tia]

I feel the same, that's why I think Baez made a big mistake in his questioning of Melich. Imagine that.:w00t:

They will probably say that Casey didn't even know that she could have asked for a lawyer. I always heard ignorance of the law was not an excuse. Besides, she was playing the VICTIM. :angry:

I hope they are not sucessful at getting any of it thrown out!

They have been completely unsuccessful so far. I think the streak will hold out:laugh:

[really3997]

TY for update. :crying: so sad

Has that property been sold yet?

the signs are down however I have a friend in the real estate busincess and the listing was still there as of December. Let see if is gone tomorrow.

[puzzler]

Oh my thats a tall order:wink:

You can handle it!:wink:

[cassidy]

Oh my thats a tall order:wink:

1st you're going to have to retrieve the crown and the you're going to have to polish it up.

:biggrinjester:

[BJames]

I don't know about Florida, but I have certainly heard of cases where the defendant changed his/her plea even right in the middle of trial. I think she can change it at ANY time.

Thanks SandyO...I was wondering that for a while now.
So basically Ms. Anthony can waste as much of the tax payers dollars as she wants to...while watching herself on video.
I know that everyone is entitled to their day in court (as it should be), I just wonder if she herself and/or mom and dad had to pay for that lawyer/court fees, if she would be putting everyone thru the same song and dance?
I do believe everyone is entitled to a good defense, it is what makes the system work (at least as well as it does). Maybe I don't even 'care' as much about the money as I do the psychological drama caused to the victims, poor Amy...I wonder how long it might take for her to truly 'trust' someone again? She's young...she just wanted to believe the best in people.....and Casey won't even spare the girl from having to testify.
It's all about Casey...all of the time.

Just my opinion of course...

[ellegna]

It's a very interesting observation, and astute of you to pick up on it. I feel sure they will try to wangle some way to claim Casey didn't get her due "rights" ---- among other ridiculous claims.

IMO it wont wash. Casey was not a suspect at the time. Police were interviewing her to try to locate Caylee.

It was only after all these lies and wild goose chases she became a suspect. Instead of being interviewed, she is now interrogated and must be read her rights to remain silent (HA) and request a lawyer.

Anyone remember that one interview Casey requested her lawyer? The interview stopped. A call was put out to Baez to attend but Casey would not shut up. IIRC, Casey kept trying to make conversation with LE.

[ellegna]

the signs are down however I have a friend in the real estate busincess and the listing was still there as of December. Let see if is gone tomorrow.

Thanks :wub:

[Lynx]

IMO it wont wash. Casey was not a suspect at the time. Police were interviewing her to try to locate Caylee.

It was only after all these lies and wild goose chases she became a suspect. Instead of being interviewed, she is now interrogated and must be read her rights to remain silent (HA) and request a lawyer.

Anyone remember that one interview Casey requested her lawyer? The interview stopped. A call was put out to Baez to attend but Casey would not shut up. IIRC, Casey kept trying to make conversation with LE.

Yes...Just rewatched it yesterday. (YOUTUBE):smile:

[puzzler]

IMO it wont wash. Casey was not a suspect at the time. Police were interviewing her to try to locate Caylee.

It was only after all these lies and wild goose chases she became a suspect. Instead of being interviewed, she is now interrogated and must be read her rights to remain silent (HA) and request a lawyer.

Anyone remember that one interview Casey requested her lawyer? The interview stopped. A call was put out to Baez to attend but Casey would not shut up. IIRC, Casey kept trying to make conversation with LE.

She absolutely could not stop talking. Do you really think she meant that she would talk some more when Baez got there? What the heck was she going to tell them? More lies, I am sure, but Baez shut it down. But to the media, Baez kept spouting how she had always cooperated with LE. Sorry, Baez, but I don't think telling fairy tales constitutes cooperating.:angry:

[CRRJJ]

Thanks for the link

JB's repetitious "It's very complex and it will come out in trial" is not only getting very stale but a pretty lame response if you ask me. :sneaky:

I think he believes if he says it enough times it will happen. Can't wait to see all this 'come out in trial'. Betcha we are gonna be totally shocked. I'm preparing myself. :scared:

[puzzler]

I think he believes if he says it enough times it will happen. Can't wait to see all this 'come out in trial'. Betcha we are gonna be totally shocked. I'm preparing myself. :scared:

And those "compelling" reasons they say she had for the 31 days of partying, getting tattooed and stealing. I am on pins and needles waiting to hear those!:w00t:

[AnnieKins]

If it is anti freeze I have witnesses. lol :tonguewag: Gulp Gulp.

LOL Only someone on a crime message board would think of such a response!! :laugh:

Mornin' all! :seeya:

[cassidy]

And those "compelling" reasons they say she had for the 31 days of partying, getting tattooed and stealing. I am on pins and needles waiting to hear those!:w00t:

Well she can't use the "abducted-by-aliens" excuse because she's been caught on film too many times.
I can't wait to hear what Jose has to offer either.
JMO

[Ladygator]

She absolutely could not stop talking. Do you really think she meant that she would talk some more when Baez got there? What the heck was she going to tell them? More lies, I am sure, but Baez shut it down. But to the media, Baez kept spouting how she had always cooperated with LE. Sorry, Baez, but I don't think telling fairy tales constitutes cooperating.:angry:

In a Team Anthony mind, she cooperated but LE misconstrued what she had said. And wouldn't purchase decoder rings to decipher her 'clues'.:rolleyes:

[SandyO]

And those "compelling" reasons they say she had for the 31 days of partying, getting tattooed and stealing. I am on pins and needles waiting to hear those!:w00t:

I'm afraid we never will hear them, Puzzler, because Casey isn't going to testify. Maybe they'll get it in there with some other witness, but .........

[Sun]

Good Morning, everyone.:smile:

When watching Casey's bond hearing again the other day, I noticed something Baez did while questioning Yuri Melich. I am no lawyer, but....Baez is asking Melich about before Casey's arrest and the interview where she told all the lies, and the wild goose chase she took them on, and he keeps asking Melich if Casey asked for a lawyer and Melich says no each time. Baez, everytime he asks him says, but she could have, and each time Melich says yes. And each time Baez says, but she didn't, did she, and Melch says no. Baez is trying to drive home the fact that Casey was "voluntarily and freely" speaking to police. (I guess) Seems to me that ultimately what he has done is prevented the defense from trying to get the statements thrown out!

Hope this makes sense, and am I all wet?

:confused:


After a bit of thought about this, and some re-visiting of Baez's early media interviews, could Baez have been asking those questions of Melich in an attempt to "clear himself" of any blame for Casey making those statements to LE? In other words, was Baez attempting to stamp it in everyone's minds that he was not to blame for all those statemens/lies that Casey told LE? That he had not yet been retained as her attorney. I can really think of no other reason for that line of questioning.

[ellegna]

And those "compelling" reasons they say she had for the 31 days of partying, getting tattooed and stealing. I am on pins and needles waiting to hear those!:w00t:

I can hardly wait myself.
I will be stocking up on gravol just in case those compelling explanations make me nauseous

[puzzler]

in a team anthony mind, she cooperated but le misconstrued what she had said. And wouldn't purchase decoder rings to decipher her 'clues'.:rolleyes:

rofl........

[Sun]

I'm afraid we never will hear them, Puzzler, because Casey isn't going to testify. Maybe they'll get it in there with some other witness, but .........

I'm not so sure that Casey won't demand to testify, even over the objections of Lyon.

[puzzler]

After a bit of thought about this, and some re-visiting of Baez's early media interviews, could Baez have been asking those questions of Melich in an attempt to "clear himself" of any blame for Casey making those statements to LE? In other words, was Baez attempting to stamp it in everyone's minds that he was not to blame for all those statemens/lies that Casey told LE? That he had not yet been retained as her attorney. I can really think of no other reason for that line of questioning.

Me, either. But I don't really see why he needed to clear himself of anything, because, as you say, he hadn't been retained yet.

A word does pop in my head..............MORON.:ohmy:

[Sun]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H8aNqPfv_0

This media interview gave by Cindy just gives me the creeps. Does this make anyone wonder if Cindy isn't the one who "snapped?"

[Sun]

After a bit of thought about this, and some re-visiting of Baez's early media interviews, could Baez have been asking those questions of Melich in an attempt to "clear himself" of any blame for Casey making those statements to LE? In other words, was Baez attempting to stamp it in everyone's minds that he was not to blame for all those statemens/lies that Casey told LE? That he had not yet been retained as her attorney. I can really think of no other reason for that line of questioning.

Me, either. But I don't really see why he needed to clear himself of anything, because, as you say, he hadn't been retained yet.

A word does pop in my head..............MORON.:ohmy:

Inexperience. Stupidity. Defensive to protect himself. An ego that far surpasses normal ranges. :rolleyes:

[SandyO]

I'm not so sure that Casey won't demand to testify, even over the objections of Lyon.

I know! There's just no controlling the CEO! She would be able to run her defense much better than any number of attorneys can, and surely EVERYONE will believe the never-to-be-doubted mighty Casey.

[Sun]

I know! There's just no controlling the CEO! She would be able to run her defense much better than any number of attorneys can, and surely EVERYONE will believe the never-to-be-doubted mighty Casey.

Casey may be 100% certain that she can get most jury members (and is absolutely sure of convincing at least one) to believe her "stories."

[Dunlurken]

Good morning everyone :seeya:

New day. New thread

Casey check fraud trial is set for January 25/10
20 days to go :thumbup:

Thanks for that. I asked about it the other day. Let me go mark my calendar. JMO. I'm glad it will be able to come into evidence. Any chance it will be covered live?

Wait a minute. Does it relate to prior bad acts?

[puzzler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H8aNqPfv_0

This media interview gave by Cindy just gives me the creeps. Does this make anyone wonder if Cindy isn't the one who "snapped?"

It gives me the creeps, too. I can't even find words to describe how weird that is, knowing all we know and knowing what she had to have known. I am starting to think that at least at that point in this case Cindy really thought if she believed it hard enough it would be true. If she could just get everyone in America to clap their hands.........

[Tia]

And those "compelling" reasons they say she had for the 31 days of partying, getting tattooed and stealing. I am on pins and needles waiting to hear those!:w00t:

"Ugly Coping"...?

:biggrin:

[Ladygator]

Casey may be 100% certain that she can get most jury members (and is absolutely sure of convincing at least one) to believe her "stories."

I can see Casey getting upset, fistie upset, as she listens to the state telling the story, backed by evidence, of what she did to poor Caylee. We seen it first hand when she said "Make him stop' at the last hearing.

She'll take notes, the more she listens, the angrier she'll get. She'll be busting at the seams to say something. I can see her going against her attorney's advice and wanting to set things straight. Yes, I can.

[cassidy]

"Ugly Coping"...?

:biggrin:

Can one "ugly cope" and have a good time doing it?

:shrug:

Just wondering.

[puzzler]

"Ugly Coping"...?

:biggrin:

Oh, yeah, I forgot they already alluded to that excuse.

Ain't gonna fly.

[Tia]

I can see Casey getting upset, fistie upset, as she listens to the state telling the story, backed by evidence, of what she did to poor Caylee. We seen it first hand when she said "Make him stop' at the last hearing.

She'll take notes, the more she listens, the angrier she'll get. She'll be busting at the seams to say something. I can see her going against her attorney's advice and wanting to set things straight. Yes, I can.

I imagine Cindy doing the same thing.

[cassidy]

I can see Casey getting upset, fistie upset, as she listens to the state telling the story, backed by evidence, of what she did to poor Caylee. We seen it first hand when she said "Make him stop' at the last hearing.

She'll take notes, the more she listens, the angrier she'll get. She'll be busting at the seams to say something. I can see her going against her attorney's advice and wanting to set things straight. Yes, I can.

Gotta love them fisties. Bet we see alot of them during the trial. BOTH trials .

JMO

[Ladygator]

I imagine Cindy doing the same thing.

Definatley! She'll get herself tossed outta the courthouse.

[cassidy]

Definatley! She'll get herself tossed outta the courthouse.

Won't that just be a Kodak moment :)

[KTBarTheDoor]

Gotta love them fisties. Bet we see alot of them during the trial. BOTH trials .

JMO

Oh No doubt. casey fists will be flying .. i can hear her now tell then to shut up!

[SandyO]

Casey may be 100% certain that she can get most jury members (and is absolutely sure of convincing at least one) to believe her "stories."


What a terrifying thought! Casey has managed to fool a lot of people in her young life ---- she's very good at that. That's going to worry me to death now, that she actually CAN convince at least one juror.

[puzzler]

What a terrifying thought! Casey has managed to fool a lot of people in her young life ---- she's very good at that. That's going to worry me to death now, that she actually CAN convince at least one juror.

Oh, don't worry. If she is crazy enough to take the stand, the prosecution will make mincemeat of her! :tonguewag:

[KTBarTheDoor]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H8aNqPfv_0

This media interview gave by Cindy just gives me the creeps. Does this make anyone wonder if Cindy isn't the one who "snapped?"

Yes creepy.. and where's your cc and joe joe...... what happened to grandma grandpa. nana pawpa. mamaw papa? I guess they weren't ever called that. but then again maybe they didnt want to be grandma or grandpa...

O/T I am Grandma again. I have a new grandson who weighs 2 lbs 7 oz and 14 1/4 inch long. 13 weeks early.his name is Rylan Daniel Blaen.

[Sun]

I can see Casey getting upset, fistie upset, as she listens to the state telling the story, backed by evidence, of what she did to poor Caylee. We seen it first hand when she said "Make him stop' at the last hearing.

She'll take notes, the more she listens, the angrier she'll get. She'll be busting at the seams to say something. I can see her going against her attorney's advice and wanting to set things straight. Yes, I can.

I think that prosecutor Jeff Ashton got a bit too close to saying the truth of what happened, and Casey just didn't want the media and the public to hear those words. The truth showing what a monster Casey really is. JMO

[Tia]

Can one "ugly cope" and have a good time doing it?

:shrug:

Just wondering.

Apparently.

Just ask Jose!

[Ladygator]

What a terrifying thought! Casey has managed to fool a lot of people in her young life ---- she's very good at that. That's going to worry me to death now, that she actually CAN convince at least one juror.

Casey isn't that good at lying. I think her getting away with everything all these years has alot to do with the personalities of those she was around. Her parents, included.

Nobody called her on her lies, for varying reasons.

I do wonder how many people came across Casey, hung with her for only a short period of time, and never called her again because they had her number and didn't want to associate with someone like her.

Personally, I would have drilled her more on her job, and if she told me she had a 'nanny' I'd laugh and make fun of that.

[Lavinya]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H8aNqPfv_0

This media interview gave by Cindy just gives me the creeps. Does this make anyone wonder if Cindy isn't the one who "snapped?"

I notice when Cindy says to "imagine yourself being hugged by Caylee", she says, "even a couple of times a week as a babysitter". So Zanny got that huge pay for being a babysitter a couple of times a week? :rolleyes:

(Good morning everyone from the frozen Deep South.<brrrr>)

[damienstoy]

Yes creepy.. and where's your cc and joe joe...... what happened to grandma grandpa. nana pawpa. mamaw papa? I guess they weren't ever called that. but then again maybe they didnt want to be grandma or grandpa...

O/T I am Grandma again. I have a new grandson who weighs 2 lbs 7 oz and 14 1/4 inch long. 13 weeks early.his name is Rylan Daniel Blaen.

They are far too young to be called Grandma and Grandpa!
Congratulations on the new grandson!

[Lavinya]

Yes creepy.. and where's your cc and joe joe...... what happened to grandma grandpa. nana pawpa. mamaw papa? I guess they weren't ever called that. but then again maybe they didnt want to be grandma or grandpa...

O/T I am Grandma again. I have a new grandson who weighs 2 lbs 7 oz and 14 1/4 inch long. 13 weeks early.his name is Rylan Daniel Blaen.

YAY! Love those babies! :wub: Warm wishes to you and your family!

"Grandmas" and "Grandpas" can't get tats and piercings. :glare:

[puzzler]

Congratulations KT! Grandkids are the greatest!

My baby sister was very premature and weighed about 3 lbs. when she was born. She is now a 5'10" woman!

And about all this CC and JoJo stuff. This stuff drives me nuts. I don't know why. I guess there's really nothing wrong with it, but before my granddaughter was born, my son's inlaws were "deciding" what they wanted the baby to call them. They came up with some cutsie names. (no form of grandmother and grandfather) They asked me what I wanted her to call me and I replied that it didn't matter to me and she could call me anything she wanted. She is going on 2 years old now and calls me Gammaw, and I couldn't be more proud!:wub:

[Sun]

I notice when Cindy says to "imagine yourself being hugged by Caylee", she says, "even a couple of times a week as a babysitter". So Zanny got that huge pay for being a babysitter a couple of times a week? :rolleyes:

(Good morning everyone from the frozen Deep South.<brrrr>)

I just got the feeling that Cindy was "that babysitter." :wink: JMO

[Tia]

They are far too young to be called Grandma and Grandpa! Congratulations on the new grandson!

BBM

Thats exactly what I was thinking.

(Congrats KT!)

[notthatsmart]

I know that there was a question over the holidays if there was anything left at the memorial site and at the time the answer was no. Since I drove my kids to school today I noticed some artificial flowers and a wreath. Very colorful not sure who put them there or how long they will stay.....Just thought I would let you guys know

:crying:

Does the school have video cameras pointing at the driveway into the school property? thanks

[hello its me]

Yes creepy.. and where's your cc and joe joe...... what happened to grandma grandpa. nana pawpa. mamaw papa? I guess they weren't ever called that. but then again maybe they didnt want to be grandma or grandpa...

O/T I am Grandma again. I have a new grandson who weighs 2 lbs 7 oz and 14 1/4 inch long. 13 weeks early.his name is Rylan Daniel Blaen.

Congrats! My nephew was exactly the same amount of time early and weight... 21 years ago! Sending prayers that Rylan gets some weight on him quickly and goes home to his family.

Can't wait for that fraud trial...

[nana6]

Yes creepy.. and where's your cc and joe joe...... what happened to grandma grandpa. nana pawpa. mamaw papa? I guess they weren't ever called that. but then again maybe they didnt want to be grandma or grandpa...

O/T I am Grandma again. I have a new grandson who weighs 2 lbs 7 oz and 14 1/4 inch long. 13 weeks early.his name is Rylan Daniel Blaen.

Oh my, comgratulations to you!!! Is this not just the best role you ever played in your whole life?? We love being grand partents!

[really3997]

Does the school have video cameras pointing at the driveway into the school property? thanks

No sorry the school actually faces the otherway. There is heavy foliage(sp) on both sides of the street. The othere side of the street is actually the back of houses.

[BlueTurtle]

What a terrifying thought! Casey has managed to fool a lot of people in her young life ---- she's very good at that. That's going to worry me to death now, that she actually CAN convince at least one juror.

She has and she hasn't. On the short run she has been good at conning people. Yet her friends don't last long, do they? Deception can only go on so long before people catch on to discrepancies.

[Tia]

She has and she hasn't. On the short run she has been good at conning people. Yet her friends don't last long, do they? Deception can only go on so long before people catch on to discrepancies.

That goes for Cindy as well.

Where are their friends now?

Even their own family has their number.

[desmom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H8aNqPfv_0

This media interview gave by Cindy just gives me the creeps. Does this make anyone wonder if Cindy isn't the one who "snapped?"

50 seconds in to the video Cindy said, "...that child..."

:cursing: Not Casey's daughter, not our granddaughter, not Caylee....no...they all call Caylee "that child".

[Sun]

She has and she hasn't. On the short run she has been good at conning people. Yet her friends don't last long, do they? Deception can only go on so long before people catch on to discrepancies.

IMO, even Baez has finally caught on, based on his reduced number of visits to her. Starting sometime around March 2009, his visits or patterns of visits changed.

[Sun]

50 seconds in to the video Cindy said, "...that child..."

:cursing: Not Casey's daughter, not our granddaughter, not Caylee....no...they all call Caylee "that child".

ITA :cursing:

[no1what]

In a Team Anthony mind, she cooperated but LE misconstrued what she had said. And wouldn't purchase decoder rings to decipher her 'clues'.:rolleyes:

What will the jury think about her "cooperation" stance if she doesn't testify?

[puzzler]

50 seconds in to the video Cindy said, "...that child..."

:cursing: Not Casey's daughter, not our granddaughter, not Caylee....no...they all call Caylee "that child".

I also find it interesting that she says...if you see a child that looks like Caylee then call it in. Most people would say....if you see Caylee, call the police.

[jammies]

She has and she hasn't. On the short run she has been good at conning people. Yet her friends don't last long, do they? Deception can only go on so long before people catch on to discrepancies.

Seems like guys used her for sex and the gf's just discussed partying and boys. No heavy deep and real relationships.
Even Annie didn't discuss Caylee's disappearance with her. Or her arrest. Didn't seem like those topics even crossed her mind.

[Spots™]

Casey's Predicament - Part Doh

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

[Silk]

YAY! Love those babies! :wub: Warm wishes to you and your family!

"Grandmas" and "Grandpas" can't get tats and piercings. :glare:

CC and JO JO can.:tonguewag:

[puzzler]

Casey's Predicament - Part Doh

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Good one, huh?

I have to admit, it escaped me that Zenaida wouldn't have had the Focus yet, because she told Cindy the story about Zenaida's wreck and subsequent acquistion of the Silver car after Caylee was supposedly kidnapped.:laugh:

[jammies]

Casey's Predicament - Part Doh

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/


Once AGAIN, (sorry!)......when did they all come up with the 9th? Had to be between the third 911 call and LE arriving at the A's home.

I imagine BEFORE LE arrived, Cindy realized what a can of worms she had opened and they all settled on that date.

[Katprint]

What a terrifying thought! Casey has managed to fool a lot of people in her young life ---- she's very good at that. That's going to worry me to death now, that she actually CAN convince at least one juror.
So what if Casey manages to convince one crazy juror? One juror does not make an acquittal; an acquittal requires twelve unanimous jurors same as a conviction requires twelve unanimous jurors. If there is a hung jury then the judge declares a mistrial and the case is retried (at least the first or second time - eventually the prosecution may give up if they have tried a case three or more times without being able to win a conviction.)

Thus, if Casey's first trial results in a hung jury, she will continue to sit in jail awaiting her second trial. Serving a life sentence on the installment plan...

It's true that she is not eligible for the death penalty unless and until she is convicted of First Degree Murder. However, in my opinion, it is unlikely she will be sentenced to death (I respect contrary opinions but that is my own opinion on this issue) although it seems extremely likely she will eventually be convicted. IMO it doesn't really make much difference whether she is convicted sooner rather than later since the most likely end result - life imprisonment - will be the same.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[really3997]

Casey's Predicament - Part Doh

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Oh my gosh my head is still spinning with all the um brackets or lies. Are you new here?

[puzzler]

So what if Casey manages to convince one crazy juror? One juror does not make an acquittal; an acquittal requires twelve unanimous jurors same as a conviction requires twelve unanimous jurors. If there is a hung jury then the judge declares a mistrial and the case is retried (at least the first or second time - eventually the prosecution may give up if they have tried a case three or more times without being able to win a conviction.)

Thus, if Casey's first trial results in a hung jury, she will continue to sit in jail awaiting her second trial. Serving a life sentence on the installment plan...

It's true that she is not eligible for the death penalty unless and until she is convicted of First Degree Murder. However, in my opinion, it is unlikely she will be sentenced to death (I respect contrary opinions but that is my own opinion on this issue) although it seems extremely likely she will eventually be convicted. IMO it doesn't really make much difference whether she is convicted sooner rather than later since the most likely end result - life imprisonment - will be the same.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Thank you, Katprint, for once again spelling it out so plainly.

[SayWhen]

Thanks for the link

JB's repetitious "It's very complex and it will come out in trial" is not only getting very stale but a pretty lame response if you ask me. :sneaky:

I wish just one of these useless interviewers would ask him, when he repeats that mantra, "Then why are you here today, wasting the time of our viewers? Did you actually shave and shower for this nonsense? Because I did, and what a waste of hair products that turned out to be. Here you are once again, sucking up the airwaves saying absolutely nothing. Please get off my stage (phone) now. Maybe we'll see you after your little trial, Jose. Don't call us. We'll call you."

:rolleyes:

[cassidy]

I wish just one of these useless interviewers would ask him, when he repeats that mantra, "Then why are you here today, wasting the time of our viewers? Did you actually shave and shower for this nonsense? Because I did, and what a waste of hair products that turned out to be. Here you are once again, sucking up the airwaves saying absolutely nothing. Please get off my stage (phone) now. Maybe we'll see you after your little trial, Jose. Don't call us. We'll call you."

:rolleyes:

ROFLMAO! Wish they would.

[puzzler]

I wish just one of these useless interviewers would ask him, when he repeats that mantra, "Then why are you here today, wasting the time of our viewers? Did you actually shave and shower for this nonsense? Because I did, and what a waste of hair products that turned out to be. Here you are once again, sucking up the airwaves saying absolutely nothing. Please get off my stage (phone) now. Maybe we'll see you after your little trial, Jose. Don't call us. We'll call you."

:rolleyes:

Hysterical!!!!!!!!

[SayWhen]

1st you're going to have to retrieve the crown and the you're going to have to polish it up.

:biggrinjester:

:scared: Where's the crown?

[really3997]

:scared: Where's the crown?


:biggrinjester:

I still have it. It was a decoy, don't let Cass scare you

[SayWhen]

After a bit of thought about this, and some re-visiting of Baez's early media interviews, could Baez have been asking those questions of Melich in an attempt to "clear himself" of any blame for Casey making those statements to LE? In other words, was Baez attempting to stamp it in everyone's minds that he was not to blame for all those statemens/lies that Casey told LE? That he had not yet been retained as her attorney. I can really think of no other reason for that line of questioning.

I can. Baez is incompetent. Seemed to me he was trying to make the point Casey had been *cooperative*. He didn't appear to be able to discern the difference between cooperation with investigators and lying to investigators.

[SayWhen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H8aNqPfv_0

This media interview gave by Cindy just gives me the creeps. Does this make anyone wonder if Cindy isn't the one who "snapped?"

Cindy tells Caylee on camera that if she sees her grandmother on TV to "Go up to the TV and say CeCe I love you too <kiss>."

Huh? :mellow:

WTH? :blink:

[really3997]

I can. Baez is incompetent. Seemed to me he was trying to make the point Casey had been *cooperative*. He didn't appear to be able to discern the difference between cooperation with investigators and lying to investigators.

Yes those questions were at the bond hearing so they were asked to show that she will not flee. However that last time prior to jail looked like she was gonna flee to me. But in the way he asked those questions he cannot later say that LE held her. JMO rambling but JMO

[SayWhen]

Yes creepy.. and where's your cc and joe joe...... what happened to grandma grandpa. nana pawpa. mamaw papa? I guess they weren't ever called that. but then again maybe they didnt want to be grandma or grandpa...

O/T I am Grandma again. I have a new grandson who weighs 2 lbs 7 oz and 14 1/4 inch long. 13 weeks early.his name is Rylan Daniel Blaen.

Congrats, KT!!

He's a little guy. Hope he's feisty. :wub:

[cassidy]

Cindy tells Caylee on camera that if she sees her grandmother on TV to "Go up to the TV and say CeCe I love you too <kiss>."

Huh? :mellow:

WTH? :blink:

Even if she HAD been kidnapped a whole heck of alot of good THAT was gonna do?
Crazy


JMO

[steyn]

Casey's Predicament - Part Doh

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Hi Spots,
new wintercoat, huh?

[steyn]

I wish just one of these useless interviewers would ask him, when he repeats that mantra, "Then why are you here today, wasting the time of our viewers? Did you actually shave and shower for this nonsense? Because I did, and what a waste of hair products that turned out to be. Here you are once again, sucking up the airwaves saying absolutely nothing. Please get off my stage (phone) now. Maybe we'll see you after your little trial, Jose. Don't call us. We'll call you."

:rolleyes:

:laugh:impf:laugh:

[Katprint]

I have a question for anyone who knows or one of our legal eagles...

Is there a maximum amount of time before a trial starts?
Bottom line: Not really, so long as there is "good cause" for a "necessary" delay.

Explanation: The defendant has a right, under the U.S. Constitution, to a "speedy trial." There are various laws that define precisely how fast that "speedy trial" must happen, depending on whether or not the defendant has been charged/arrested/is in pretrial custody etc. However, when the defendant requests that the court continue (postpone) the trial because the defendant needs more time to prepare his defense then the court requires the defendant to "waive time" with regard to the delay; this is fair because the lack of speediness is at the defendant's request.

As I understand it, in Florida the prosecution also has a statutory right to a speedy trial. I think it was Richard Hornsby, Esq.'s blog that explained a criminal trial cannot be continued more than twice over the objection of the prosecution. However, that statutory speedy trial right is trumped by the defendant's rights under the U.S. Constitution to (in a nutshell) prepare his defense including time to sufficiently investigate the facts and circumstances of the case in hopes of locating defense witnesses to subpoena on his behalf, to prepare to cross-examine/confront the witnesses against him and to otherwise enjoy procedural and substantive Due Process of Law. Thus, the trial will be continued as many times as the defense can convince the judge that there is a good reason for the continuance.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[SayWhen]

:biggrinjester:

I still have it. It was a decoy, don't let Cass scare you

Glad to hear it. :thumbup:

[notthatsmart]

No sorry the school actually faces the otherway. There is heavy foliage(sp) on both sides of the street. The othere side of the street is actually the back of houses.

So if someone pulled into the driveway to turn around, that would not be caught on camera? sorry just curious.

[SayWhen]

Yes those questions were at the bond hearing so they were asked to show that she will not flee. However that last time prior to jail looked like she was gonna flee to me. But in the way he asked those questions he cannot later say that LE held her. JMO rambling but JMO

I get what you're saying -- once again he stepped on it. :D

I just can't help but be stunned every time JB opens his yap. And the 'tude he cops while he's making absolutely no sense, umm'ing and ah'ing his way along, unable to speak in complete coherent sentences. His thinking is as fatally flawed as his communication style. Gawd. I cannot believe he's an attorney. :tongueside:

[SayWhen]

Even if she HAD been kidnapped a whole heck of alot of good THAT was gonna do?
Crazy


JMO

Seriously! Uh, Caylee dear, while you're being held there by Zanny and/or her relatives and/or that drug cartel, make sure to profess your love for your CeCe to the TV set.

Who says that? Who even has a thought like that? :confused:

[SayWhen]

Bottom line: Not really, so long as there is "good cause" for a "necessary" delay.

Explanation: The defendant has a right, under the U.S. Constitution, to a "speedy trial." There are various laws that define precisely how fast that "speedy trial" must happen, depending on whether or not the defendant has been charged/arrested/is in pretrial custody etc. However, when the defendant requests that the court continue (postpone) the trial because the defendant needs more time to prepare his defense then the court requires the defendant to "waive time" with regard to the delay; this is fair because the lack of speediness is at the defendant's request.

As I understand it, in Florida the prosecution also has a statutory right to a speedy trial. I think it was Richard Hornsby, Esq.'s blog that explained a criminal trial cannot be continued more than twice over the objection of the prosecution. However, that statutory speedy trial right is trumped by the defendant's rights under the U.S. Constitution to (in a nutshell) prepare his defense including time to sufficiently investigate the facts and circumstances of the case in hopes of locating defense witnesses to subpoena on his behalf, to prepare to cross-examine/confront the witnesses against him and to otherwise enjoy procedural and substantive Due Process of Law. Thus, the trial will be continued as many times as the defense can convince the judge that there is a good reason for the continuance.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

The only thing I can imagine holding up this trial will be the defense's lack of motivation to actually prepare for it. I can't imagine Judge Stan will have a ton of patience if they attempt delays simply because they haven't been working on the case (the autopsy photo nonsense comes to mind, among other things).

I'm hoping Judge Strickland's insistence that the fraud trial get underway over all the hemming, hawing, and whining of Casey's defense team, is a preview of coming attractions.

[cassidy]

Seriously! Uh, Caylee dear, while you're being held there by Zanny and/or her relatives and/or that drug cartel, make sure to profess your love for your CeCe to the TV set.

Who says that? Who even has a thought like that? :confused:

Cindy who must be the center of attention.

:w00t:

do I win a prize?

[really3997]

So if someone pulled into the driveway to turn around, that would not be caught on camera? sorry just curious.

Ok. Suburban is a dead end street for the most part. Where Caylee was found was not to far off from the cross street of Hopespring Dr. The opposite side of the street is a fence with lots of trees and thru the trees you see peoples back yards. At the end of street to the left (opposite side where Caylee was found) is the entrance to the school where you would be entering the side of the school. There are no driveways just a road and an entrance to the school. The camera that was on the light post at the spot where Caylee was found is no longer there. Most people drive to the end of the street and make a u turn at the end of the road. soooooo your recon should not be filmed, but as a disclaimer I am not sure if LE or Cindy (in hopes to find the nanny) has placed a camera deep in the wood. Enter at your own risk....:scared:

JMO until you drive there then fact

[SayWhen]

Cindy who must be the center of attention.

:w00t:

do I win a prize?

Now see? Doesn't this just confirm (yet again), what a narcissist Cindy is in her own right? :cursing:

What kind of screwed up personality does it take to first talk about your granddaughter (because she's your granddaughter, and you're speshul) as though she's so irresistible just a hug or two a week from her would cause someone to snap and kidnap her? Followed by a plea not to the kidnapper(s) for her return, but to that child herself, to profess her undying love for her granny to the freakin TV set while being held by her captors. And she's talking to a 2 year-old!

Get the net for that one! Time for a long visit to Happy Acres. :w00t:

ETA: Check with the crown owner on your prize. She has the keys to the prize closet.

[cassidy]

Ok. Suburban is a dead end street for the most part. Where Caylee was found was not to far off from the cross street of Hopespring Dr. The opposite side of the street is a fence with lots of trees and thru the trees you see peoples back yards. At the end of street to the left (opposite side where Caylee was found) is the entrance to the school where you would be entering the side of the school. There are no driveways just a road and an entrance to the school. The camera that was on the light post at the spot where Caylee was found is no longer there. Most people drive to the end of the street and make a u turn at the end of the road. soooooo your recon should not be filmed, but as a disclaimer I am not sure if LE or Cindy (in hopes to find the nanny) has placed a camera deep in the wood. Enter at your own risk....:scared:

JMO until you drive there then fact

Thank you for clearing that all up Really . We do appreciate it :)

would you please open the prize closet so I can have one?

[really3997]

Thank you for clearing that all up Really . We do appreciate it :)

would you please open the prize closet so I can have one?

You are most welcome that is what I do.:wink:


I will unlock it when YOU go get the chili recipe

[Holden]

So what if Casey manages to convince one crazy juror? One juror does not make an acquittal; an acquittal requires twelve unanimous jurors same as a conviction requires twelve unanimous jurors. If there is a hung jury then the judge declares a mistrial and the case is retried (at least the first or second time - eventually the prosecution may give up if they have tried a case three or more times without being able to win a conviction.)

Thus, if Casey's first trial results in a hung jury, she will continue to sit in jail awaiting her second trial. Serving a life sentence on the installment plan...

It's true that she is not eligible for the death penalty unless and until she is convicted of First Degree Murder. However, in my opinion, it is unlikely she will be sentenced to death (I respect contrary opinions but that is my own opinion on this issue) although it seems extremely likely she will eventually be convicted. IMO it doesn't really make much difference whether she is convicted sooner rather than later since the most likely end result - life imprisonment - will be the same.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

If casey's trial ends in a hung jury, this will not be the end of it. Think about Phil Spector. His first long trial was hung - but his next, minus the very expensive LKB, was a short trial ending in conviction. I think there are people out there willing to hang up a jury just to get a little attention, like maybe a book deal. Just plain stupid and unfair. Remember Betty Broderick? Her first jury was hung because one jury member said something like - well, I thought she should have killed her husband long before she did. Come on......BB murdered her ex in cold blood and killed a perfectly innocent victim, his new wife, such a young woman. The person who hung up that trial should be ashamed of himself. She was, of course and correctly, convicted during the second trial. casey will never get out of prison, no matter the content of her day dreams, the visions of burying her toes on the sandy beach. She is toast. :thumbup: There is not a person on earth who doesn't know what she did. Should someone hang her jury, well, that will be just a tiny bump in the road. Soon enough C&G will be doing their level best to pretend they never had this little monster.

[Dovey]

O/T I hope everyone enjoyed their holiday and created many very happy memories. My guest all went home but the memories will last a life time.

I've been reading and trying to catch up a bit.
I recently re-read Caylee's obit that Cindy wrote for the newspaper. What about this trust fund Cindy and George set up for Caylee? Were they the beneficary and is that were all the donations were deposited? Is this why neither C & G have jobs?
Grrrrrr

[notthatsmart]

Ok. Suburban is a dead end street for the most part. Where Caylee was found was not to far off from the cross street of Hopespring Dr. The opposite side of the street is a fence with lots of trees and thru the trees you see peoples back yards. At the end of street to the left (opposite side where Caylee was found) is the entrance to the school where you would be entering the side of the school. There are no driveways just a road and an entrance to the school. The camera that was on the light post at the spot where Caylee was found is no longer there. Most people drive to the end of the street and make a u turn at the end of the road. soooooo your recon should not be filmed, but as a disclaimer I am not sure if LE or Cindy (in hopes to find the nanny) has placed a camera deep in the wood. Enter at your own risk....:scared:

JMO until you drive there then fact

I was just wondering if Kronk would have been filmed on the entrance road and also wondering if Kc could have been filmed turning around in the entrance. At our school there are camera's covering all entrances. We keep our videos forever. They are all in digital format and saved to hard drives and then backed up year to year with tape. I googled the location and can see the maps and am well aware of the entrances, but I can not tell if there are cameras pointing at the entrances. Was hoping you could help. thanks

[Spots™]

Seriously! Uh, Caylee dear, while you're being held there by Zanny and/or her relatives and/or that drug cartel, make sure to profess your love for your CeCe to the TV set.

Who says that? Who even has a thought like that? :confused:

The obvious answer is: an egotist.

Cindy fits that profile.

[really3997]

I was just wondering if Kronk would have been filmed on the entrance road and also wondering if Kc could have been filmed turning around in the entrance. At our school there are camera's covering all entrances. We keep our videos forever. They are all in digital format and saved to hard drives and then backed up year to year with tape. I googled the location and can see the maps and am well aware of the entrances, but I can not tell if there are cameras pointing at the entrances. Was hoping you could help. thanks

Hehehe I had all sorts of ideas of why you wanted to know but that was not one of them. I would probably have to say no. However prior to this being all about the Anthony's the reason why this fence was put at the end of the street was due to the fact that kids would get back there and do god knows what. There might have been a camera who knows.

[SayWhen]

This is one of the most accurate descriptions of Cindy I have read...bravo!!!

I think you should ask for a prize

Thank you. :wub:

Posting with the keeper of the prize closet key is prize enough for me. :sleep:

[seeing_eye]

I know that there was a question over the holidays if there was anything left at the memorial site and at the time the answer was no. Since I drove my kids to school today I noticed some artificial flowers and a wreath. Very colorful not sure who put them there or how long they will stay.....Just thought I would let you guys know

:crying:

Thanks for the info, Really. I guess the Anthonys don't know of it yet. :sad:

[really3997]

Thanks for the info, Really. I guess the Anthonys don't know of it yet. :sad:

Right or they left it. Question when was the memorial with the only pure of heart people could it have been 1 year ago is that why flowers have shown up. Maybe Cindy put them there. NAH. Just find it odd that all of a sudden flowers are there.

Question no 2. Is there like a time where everyone just stops posting or sumting. Seems like everyone just stops. JMO

[BettyC]

I wish just one of these useless interviewers would ask him, when he repeats that mantra, "Then why are you here today, wasting the time of our viewers? Did you actually shave and shower for this nonsense? Because I did, and what a waste of hair products that turned out to be. Here you are once again, sucking up the airwaves saying absolutely nothing. Please get off my stage (phone) now. Maybe we'll see you after your little trial, Jose. Don't call us. We'll call you."

:rolleyes:

I agree AND this should be said to George and Cindy Anthony too.

[Sun]

Anthony Check Trial Less Than 3 Weeks Away
23-Year-Old Accused Of Stealing Money From Friend
POSTED: January 5, 2010

On Jan. 25, Anthony is scheduled to stand trial for 13 check fraud counts. Judge Stan Strickland so far has not acted on her defense team's request to move the trial. Neither side will comment on whether a plea could be in the works on the fraud case.

http://www.wesh.com/news/22135523/detail.html

[cassidy]

You are most welcome that is what I do.:wink:


I will unlock it when YOU go get the chili recipe


And you do keep the local information flowing so well :)

It's up to YOU to get the chili recipe and that should have no bearing on a prize for me LOL

[Lynx]

Anthony Check Trial Less Than 3 Weeks Away
23-Year-Old Accused Of Stealing Money From Friend
POSTED: January 5, 2010

On Jan. 25, Anthony is scheduled to stand trial for 13 check fraud counts. Judge Stan Strickland so far has not acted on her defense team's request to move the trial. Neither side will comment on whether a plea could be in the works on the fraud case.

http://www.wesh.com/news/22135523/detail.html

Thanks again for a update.:smile:

[Sun]

Thanks again for a update.:smile:

So far, nothing new on the Clerk of Courts records for any of her cases. :sad:

[Lynx]

So far, nothing new on the Clerk of Courts records for any of her cases. :sad:

Wonder how much longer they can drag this out? Wonder if they are working on a plea deal? (Check Charges)

[Ladygator]

Anthony Check Trial Less Than 3 Weeks Away
23-Year-Old Accused Of Stealing Money From Friend
POSTED: January 5, 2010

On Jan. 25, Anthony is scheduled to stand trial for 13 check fraud counts. Judge Stan Strickland so far has not acted on her defense team's request to move the trial. Neither side will comment on whether a plea could be in the works on the fraud case.

http://www.wesh.com/news/22135523/detail.html

COV request for check fraud!! That cracks me up!!!

Guess Team Anthony is on pins and needles wondering why Stan the Man hasn't agreed by now to move it for the Princess.

Only 3 weeks away, with a high profile defendant, those jury summons will be going out in the mail real soon.

[Sun]

Wonder how much longer they can drag this out? Wonder if they are working on a plea deal? (Check Charges)

Hopefully, they won't be allowed to drag it on any longer than the Jan 25, 2010 date. :biggrin:

[SayWhen]

Anthony Check Trial Less Than 3 Weeks Away
23-Year-Old Accused Of Stealing Money From Friend
POSTED: January 5, 2010

On Jan. 25, Anthony is scheduled to stand trial for 13 check fraud counts. Judge Stan Strickland so far has not acted on her defense team's request to move the trial. Neither side will comment on whether a plea could be in the works on the fraud case.

http://www.wesh.com/news/22135523/detail.html

Didn't Judge Stan say something at the last hearing about getting a jury put together ... like he was going to put the process in motion the following week? I think I heard that right?

So I'm wondering if we'd hear whether that process did indeed get off the ground? Because it's been real quiet since the last hearing, and I'm thinking there's definitely a plea deal in the works.

Anyone?

[Lynx]

Hopefully, they won't be allowed to drag it on any longer than the Jan 25, 2010 date. :biggrin:

Crossing fingers....:smile:

[Sun]

Cindy goes on and on and on in this late July 2008 media interview, while waiting for a video visitation (that never happened).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAaaXtlnZEA

[puzzler]

Seriously! Uh, Caylee dear, while you're being held there by Zanny and/or her relatives and/or that drug cartel, make sure to profess your love for your CeCe to the TV set.

Who says that? Who even has a thought like that? :confused:

Rofl.....I may have to start wearing depends. This is soo funny. Can you say coo coo for coco puffs?

[SayWhen]

Rofl.....I may have to start wearing depends. This is soo funny. Can you say coo coo for coco puffs?

Stunning, isn't it? :scared:

I'm trying to think of one sort of normal thing she's said ...

still ...

thinking ... :blink:

[snowflakes]

Cindy goes on and on and on in this late July 2008 media interview, while waiting for a video visitation (that never happened).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAaaXtlnZEA
Cindy makes my skin crawl. JMO though.

[puzzler]

Cindy goes on and on and on in this late July 2008 media interview, while waiting for a video visitation (that never happened).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAaaXtlnZEA

She tells the media that Casey is cooperating with the authorities.

HUH?

And it is the media that gets everything wrong and makes "misstatements".

GRRR:cursing:

[Lynx]

Cindy makes my skin crawl. JMO though.

MOPT.....:biggrin:

[Sun]

She tells the media that Casey is cooperating with the authorities.

HUH?

And it is the media that gets everything wrong and makes "misstatements".

GRRR:cursing:

Going back in time and re-listening to old media interviews sure can bring about new thoughts about the statements that the Anthonys and Baez have made.

The whole goal of getting Caylee's picture "out there" by Cindy and George was to bring in donations. Donations that were never used in the search for her. Donations that went to fill the pockets of the Anthonys and their new friends the Milsteads. :mad:

[Sun]

Didn't Judge Stan say something at the last hearing about getting a jury put together ... like he was going to put the process in motion the following week? I think I heard that right?

So I'm wondering if we'd hear whether that process did indeed get off the ground? Because it's been real quiet since the last hearing, and I'm thinking there's definitely a plea deal in the works.

Anyone?

You heard right. I've been keeping an eye out for any info, but so far I've come up with nothing.

Anyone think that Casey is feeling any pressure?

[Silk]

Hopefully, they won't be allowed to drag it on any longer than the Jan 25, 2010 date. :biggrin:

The murder trial comes this summer if all goes as planned. Another delay isn't too smart. You would think Baez wouldn't want both trials so close to each other. If they are close together Baez might want to rethink.:sneaky:

[Sun]

I just wonder what excuse Baez, Baden or Lyon will come up with to postpone the fraud trial...

Wonder if one of them will be in the hospital with stomach pains???

I read that AL was doing a book tour...wonder if that will fly...

I wonder what Lyon's teaching schedule is? Wasn't her book released this week?

[Sun]

http://oaa.depaul.edu/_content/what/documents/0910beginandend.pdf

Here is the latest DePaul Academic Calendar.

[Dunlurken]

The murder trial comes this summer if all goes as planned. Another delay isn't too smart. You would think Baez wouldn't want both trials so close to each other. If they are close together Baez might want to rethink.:sneaky:

She "had" the right to a quick and speedy trial. They should have done that a long time ago. JMO.

[Dovey]

http://oaa.depaul.edu/_content/what/documents/0910beginandend.pdf

Here is the latest DePaul Academic Calendar.

Looks like AL will delay until after:
Friday August 20, 2010 END SUMMER 2010 (10‐WEEK) TERM

[puzzler]

I just wonder what excuse Baez, Baden or Lyon will come up with to postpone the fraud trial...

Wonder if one of them will be in the hospital with stomach pains???

I read that AL was doing a book tour...wonder if that will fly...

I thought they were not defending her in the fraud trial, but another lawyer. Can't remember his name at the moment.

Am I mistaken?:confused:

[puzzler]

I wasn't kidding...she's on a book tour...wonder if Casey knows that AL is selling and signing books instead of working on her defense???

there is a link, but don't know if I can post a link...

Yeah, a book tour takes precedence over a death penalty case anyday.:ohmy:

[Sun]

Looks like AL will delay until after:
Friday August 20, 2010 END SUMMER 2010 (10‐WEEK) TERM

http://oaa.depaul.edu/_content/what/documents/1011beginandend.pdf

And, here is the calender for Fall 2010 through Summer 2011.

[puzzler]

I don't know...thought they were all working on it...Are you referring to
Todd Macaluso???

No, I thought it was someone else. I am looking. Could definitely be wrong about it.:tongueside:

Well, maybe I am confused. Maybe I am thinking about the civil case. I can't find anything saying anyone besides Baez and co. is defending her against the check fraud charges.

[Sun]

I thought they were not defending her in the fraud trial, but another lawyer. Can't remember his name at the moment.

Am I mistaken?:confused:

Civil Case (defamation): Kasen is Casey's attorney though his name appears nowhere on Casey's Inmate Visitor's Log. He has never met with Casey in the jail. Not once.

Criminal Check/Fraud Case: Baez is Casey's attorney of record (and Lyon has filed a motion to appear pro hac vice, which I haven't seen a ruling from Strickland on)

Andrea Lyon - Motion for Admission To Appear Pro Hac Vice (Fraud Trial)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13091969/Motion-For-Admission-To-Appear-Pro-Hac-Vice

[puzzler]

Civil Case (defamation): Kasen is Casey's attorney though his name appears nowhere on Casey's Inmate Visitor's Log. He has never met with Casey in the jail. Not once.

Criminal Check/Fraud Case: Baez is Casey's attorney of record (and Lyon has filed a motion to appear pro hac vice, which I haven't seen a ruling from Strickland on)

Andrea Lyon - Motion for Admission To Appear Pro Hac Vice (Fraud Trial)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13091969/Motion-For-Admission-To-Appear-Pro-Hac-Vice

Thanks, Sun....I don't know what made me think it was a different attorney. :blushing:

[really3997]

I wonder what Lyon's teaching schedule is? Wasn't her book released this week?

WFTV just stated her book came out today:tonguewag:

[puzzler]

WFTV just stated her book came out today:tonguewag:

Oh, I must rush out and get my copy!............NOT!:thumbdown:

[really3997]

Oh, I must rush out and get my copy!............NOT!:thumbdown:

wonder if she wrote it or her students:confused:

[Dovey]

WFTV just stated her book came out today:tonguewag:

AL should be disqualified as her book might taint a jury to be panelled.

[Sun]

WFTV just stated her book came out today:tonguewag:

Perhaps she has a book signing scheduled in the Orlando area around the third week of January? :angry:

[Sun]

wonder if she wrote it or her students:confused:

She has difficulty keeping my whole attention when she is speaking in the courtroom, and I would have the same difficulty trying to read a book of hers.

[Sun]

WFTV just stated her book came out today:tonguewag:

http://www.wftv.com/news/22143267/detail.html

Casey's Attorney Releases 'Angel Of Death Row' Book
Posted: 5:55 pm EST January 5, 2010

[puzzler]

She has difficulty keeping my whole attention when she is speaking in the courtroom, and I would have the same difficulty trying to read a book of hers.

I read voraciously and love a good book, but I feel certain this would not qualify.:bored:

ETA: I do hope she makes enough money off the book to hire a stylist.

[Sun]

I read voraciously and love a good book, but I feel certain this would not qualify.:bored:

I listened to Lyon's 2008 speech, and will say that my dislike for her is great. :closedeyes:

[puzzler]

I listened to Lyon's 2008 speech, and will say that my dislike for her is great. :closedeyes:

Yeah, she's some "angel" isn't she.:ohmy:

[read-in]

No book has ever made enough money to fix that!!!

Oh how I love everyone on this board.
All of you, always make my day and put a smile on my face.:biggrin:

[puzzler]

No book has ever made enough money to fix that!!!

ROFLMAO

:scared:

[cassidy]

Yeah, a book tour takes precedence over a death penalty case anyday.:ohmy:

In the interest of fairness, no attorney works on just one case 24/7. Casey's trial is a long way off. And NO I am not an AL fan.

JMO

[puzzler]

In the interest of fairness, no attorney works on just one case 24/7. Casey's trial is a long way off. And NO I am not an AL fan.

JMO

You are right. I just thought it was being discussed as a way they would delay the trial. So I was being facetious.:rolleyes:

[Lynx]

You are right. I just thought it was being discussed as a way they would delay the trial. So I was being facetious.:rolleyes:

Hello Puzzler.....How's your nieghbor doing? You are such a nice person for helping her out.:smile:

[cassidy]

Just a little levity...:wink:

:thumbsup:
laughing

[puzzler]

Hello Puzzler.....How's your nieghbor doing? You are such a nice person for helping her out.:smile:

She is doing better, but still not as well as I would like. She goes to the doctor on Thursday, so I hope he gives her some good news. I think a lot of her problem is depression over the copd diagnosis.

Anyway, thanks for asking.

I try.:blushing:

[Lynx]

She is doing better, but still not as well as I would like. She goes to the doctor on Thursday, so I hope he gives her some good news. I think a lot of her problem is depression over the copd diagnosis.

Anyway, thanks for asking.

I try.:blushing:

You are a good neighbor. If recently diagnosed.... depression could definately be a factor, maybe you should mention that she discuss this with the doctor and get help with that also.

[puzzler]

You are a good neighbor. If recently diagnosed.... depression could definately be a factor, maybe you should mention that she discuss this with the doctor and get help with that also.

I will. I will go with her. She has given her doctor permission to talk to me so I will pipe up and let him know. He his a very nice doctor and has thanked me many times for bringing her in. I think he is a rare one and really cares.

It's hell getting old.:sad:

[Lynx]

I will. I will go with her. She has given her doctor permission to talk to me so I will pipe up and let him know. He his a very nice doctor and has thanked me many times for bringing her in. I think he is a rare one and really cares.

It's hell getting old.:sad:

Oldies but goodies, my doctor is old too....I have diabetes bad and I don't know what I would do without him. He keeps me in check! I shrudder at the thought of him retiring.

[Dovey]

I read voraciously and love a good book, but I feel certain this would not qualify.:bored:

ETA: I do hope she makes enough money off the book to hire a stylist.

I'm sure there are plenty on W Armitage Ave just down the street from
DePaul Univ.

[Lynx]

I listened to Ms. Lyon's speech a few weeks ago for the first time. I thought it was maybe a joke, a bad joke. I listened again when I was told it was authentic. :scared: It's scarey that it's real.

If I were a juror I would convict Casey on having to listening to her alone.

[puzzler]

Oldies but goodies, my doctor is old too....I have diabetes bad and I don't know what I would do without him. He keeps me in check! I shrudder at the thought of him retiring.

I know what you mean. I don't know what she will do when he retires, which I think will be in the not so distant future. Just have to deal with it.

I don't even really have a regular doctor. In my family, you didn't go to the doctor unless you were on death's door. (poor)

I had my gall bladder out about a year and a half ago and it was the first time I had been in the hospital since my 24 year old daughter was born!

I am sorry to hear about your diabetes. I know it can be scarey. My S-in-L has it and has a pump.

I guess we all have to play the hand we're dealt and do the best we can.

[puzzler]

I listened to Ms. Lyon's speech a few weeks ago for the first time. I thought it was maybe a joke, a bad joke. I listened again when I was told it was authentic. :scared: It's scarey that it's real.

Ever since hearing it, don't you see her with a pointy hat and riding a broom?:w00t:

[Lynx]

Ever since hearing it, don't you see her with a pointy hat and riding a broom?:w00t:

OMG.....YES....:scared:

[Lynx]

Trust me, I agree with you there.

Have we heard anything from that lawyer from California in a while?:confused:

[Lynx]

I know what you mean. I don't know what she will do when he retires, which I think will be in the not so distant future. Just have to deal with it.

I don't even really have a regular doctor. In my family, you didn't go to the doctor unless you were on death's door. (poor)

I had my gall bladder out about a year and a half ago and it was the first time I had been in the hospital since my 24 year old daughter was born!

I am sorry to hear about your diabetes. I know it can be scarey. My S-in-L has it and has a pump.

I guess we all have to play the hand we're dealt and do the best we can.

I was much like you several years ago until I almost died in my sleep from a Diabetic coma....Luckily my husband knew something was wrong and got me to the hospital.

Was diagnosed and told I had probably had the disease for over 10 years...Never knew was just tired all the time. Weight was not a factor seeing how I only weight 125 soaking wet, genetics was my problem.

But I live life to the fullest everyday now. I'm not a canidate for the pump yet.

[puzzler]

I was much like you several years ago until I almost died in my sleep from a Diabetic coma....Luckily my husband knew something was wrong and got me to the hospital.

Was diagnosed and told I had probably had the disease for over 10 years...Never knew was just tired all the time. Weight was not a factor seeing how I only weight 125 soaking wet, genetics was my problem.

But I live life to the fullest everyday now. I'm not a canidate for the pump yet.

Bless your heart. How scarey that must have been. My S-in-L has had it all her life, so that is why she has the pump, I guess.

You just take care of yourself!

We are so lucky to have you here with us and we want to keep it that way!!!!:smile:

[SayWhen]

My peeps!

I just found this one linked on another site.

It's a MUST WATCH. It's a medley of Cindy's media interview hits, with subtitles. I don't normally watch the woman, but with the subtitles and the way the interviews are cut into the video, this thing is simply divine! :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf1oC0q-2nQ

[Lynx]

Bless your heart. How scarey that must have been. My S-in-L has had it all her life, so that is why she has the pump, I guess.

You just take care of yourself!

We are so lucky to have you here with us and we want to keep it that way!!!!:smile:

Thanks alot! I stick myself 4 times a day eat like I am supposr to and am good to go! Iwas depressed in the beginning, but finally realized a brand new lifestyle would lead to a longer life for me.

[SayWhen]

If I were a juror I would convict Casey on having to listening to her alone.

Oh, absolutely! Completely and obviously! Without haste!

barf

[Themis]

My peeps!

I just found this one linked on another site.

It's a MUST WATCH. It's a medley of Cindy's media interview hits, with subtitles. I don't normally watch the woman, but with the subtitles and the way the interviews are cut into the video, this thing is simply divine! :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf1oC0q-2nQ
That was good; that was very good. I especially paid attention to Greta V.S. questions, the answers (?) and saw her frustration. She happens to be one of my favorite interviewers.
I have read from other posters who express their disappointment that Greta V.S. no longer covers the cases of little Caylee A. and Haleigh C. But I think I understand her total frustration in trying to interview people involved in these 2 cases; one so soon after the other. I can almost see G.V.S. throw her hands in the air in frustration and have a long sit-down with her producers. Thanks for sharing this, SayWhen. [JMO * Themis]

[SayWhen]

That was good; that was very good. I especially paid attention to Greta V.S. questions, the answers (?) and saw her frustration.
I have read from other posters who express their disappointment that Greta V.S. no longer covers the cases of little Caylee A. and Haleigh C. But I think I understand her total frustration in trying to interview people involved in these 2 cases; one so soon after the other. I can almost see G.V.S. throw her hands in the air in frustration and have a long sit-down with her producers. Thanks for sharing this, SayWhen. [JMO * Themis]

You're welcome, Themis. :smile:

I was also surprised at the NG clip in which Nancy was fairly aggressive in her questioning of Cynthia Marie. I either didn't see that when it aired, or forgot it.

[Lynx]

My peeps!

I just found this one linked on another site.

It's a MUST WATCH. It's a medley of Cindy's media interview hits, with subtitles. I don't normally watch the woman, but with the subtitles and the way the interviews are cut into the video, this thing is simply divine! :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf1oC0q-2nQ

Yes Simply Divine.....Thanks for posting it!:smile:

[Ladygator]

I just watched it too...How can anyone believe they don't know the truth???

Especially after watching all their interviews.

[AnnieKins]

My peeps!

I just found this one linked on another site.

It's a MUST WATCH. It's a medley of Cindy's media interview hits, with subtitles. I don't normally watch the woman, but with the subtitles and the way the interviews are cut into the video, this thing is simply divine! :thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf1oC0q-2nQ

Oh yes, this is a good one!

What is it with stupid people starting off every sentence with, "You know what?" while they try to think of what they're going to say (lie about) next?! :scared: (My ex-hubs' new wife does this all the time.)

I loved Bill O'Reilly's statement at the end and I"m sure most people would agree with him!!

[AnnieKins]

Thanks alot! I stick myself 4 times a day eat like I am supposr to and am good to go! Iwas depressed in the beginning, but finally realized a brand new lifestyle would lead to a longer life for me.

I'm trying to be polite here, but would you two take this to PMs please. Thanks.

This is the Caylee board where we're discussing the murder of a two year old girl.

[Amy]

Just a question if anyone knows?

After a jury is seated in the fraud charges and the trial begins..would Casey be able to change her plea to guilty (maybe with a reason?...not that it would be the 'truth'), at what point would she be able to use no contest (with a reason ?)...would that have to be before the jury is seated? Or could it be between the jury seating and the beginning of the trial itself? Or...at any point during the trial...?
I am just wondering how much time (and money) could be 'wasted' and then Ms. Anthony might just change her mind?
Thanks for anyone who knows...

I know there have been several shows (real-life ones) and probably even some true-crime books where the perp took a plea about each of the intervals you have presented. Even the one where the trial had already started. Don't know if it would differ state to state on whether or not it is allowed, tho.

[trich]

You're welcome, Themis. :smile:

I was also surprised at the NG clip in which Nancy was fairly aggressive in her questioning of Cynthia Marie. I either didn't see that when it aired, or forgot it.

I will never understand why some interviewers will not ask the tough questions and make it known that the person being interviewed is avoiding answering the question.
I hate when these people are treated with kid gloves....if they agree to be interviewed then they need to answer the tough ones.
I quit watching Greta for the reason that she started to get wishy washy during the Scott Peterson trial...and when I heard her say she believed in Garagos ...well that was enough to turn me off.
Anyhow I am glad that NG asks the tough questions and tries to get the right answers and will not settle for the garbage that people like the Anthonys try to make the public believe.

[Amy]

I know that there was a question over the holidays if there was anything left at the memorial site and at the time the answer was no. Since I drove my kids to school today I noticed some artificial flowers and a wreath. Very colorful not sure who put them there or how long they will stay.....Just thought I would let you guys know

:crying:

Thanks for taking the time to look, and the time to report back to us!!! Guess either the A's put them there, or have not been by to see that someone outside the family still thinks of Caylee. My bet would be on the latter!!!!

[puzzler]

Oh yes, this is a good one!

What is it with stupid people starting off every sentence with, "You know what?" while they try to think of what they're going to say (lie about) next?! :scared: (My ex-hubs' new wife does this all the time.)

I loved Bill O'Reilly's statement at the end and I"m sure most people would agree with him!!

Prime example:

Casey calls home from jail and tells her friend that all her family cares about is getting Caylee back....

pause....

And you know what, that's all I care about, too.:angry:

[Dovey]

I will never understand [B]why some interviewers will not ask the tough questions and make it known that the person being interviewed is avoiding answering the question.I hate when these people are treated with kid gloves....if they agree to be interviewed then they need to answer the tough ones.
I quit watching Greta for the reason that she started to get wishy washy during the Scott Peterson trial...and when I heard her say she believed in Garagos ...well that was enough to turn me off.
Anyhow I am glad that NG asks the tough questions and tries to get the right answers and will not settle for the garbage that people like the Anthonys try to make the public believe.[/QUOTE]

BBM
Most interviews are previewed and only APPROVED questions are approved to be asked and answered on a talk show. I'm sure the A's knew this ahead of air time.

[Amy]

Good Morning, everyone.:smile:

When watching Casey's bond hearing again the other day, I noticed something Baez did while questioning Yuri Melich. I am no lawyer, but....Baez is asking Melich about before Casey's arrest and the interview where she told all the lies, and the wild goose chase she took them on, and he keeps asking Melich if Casey asked for a lawyer and Melich says no each time. Baez, everytime he asks him says, but she could have, and each time Melich says yes. And each time Baez says, but she didn't, did she, and Melch says no. Baez is trying to drive home the fact that Casey was "voluntarily and freely" speaking to police. (I guess) Seems to me that ultimately what he has done is prevented the defense from trying to get the statements thrown out!

Hope this makes sense, and am I all wet?

:confused:

But, does it count if the information given voluntarily and freely is all lies? Does Baez think that should get the lying to LE charges dropped? I mean, she lied whether she had a lawyer or not, and whether it was voluntarily and freely or not.

I guess, what you are saying is that Baez is kind of hoisting himself on his own petard, and seems to be working for the prosecution? :chicken:

[Amy]

In a Team Anthony mind, she cooperated but LE misconstrued what she had said. And wouldn't purchase decoder rings to decipher her 'clues'.:rolleyes:

They needed decoder rings? I tho't Cindy herself was "decoding" Casey's clues during her interviews!!!! :lol:

[Dovey]

But, does it count if the information given voluntarily and freely is all lies? Does Baez think that should get the lying to LE charges dropped? I mean, she lied whether she had a lawyer or not, and whether it was voluntarily and freely or not.

I guess, what you are saying is that Baez is kind of hoisting himself on his own petard, and seems to be working for the prosecution? :chicken:

Who was that first attorney Casey had when she was first arrested?

[Amy]

After a bit of thought about this, and some re-visiting of Baez's early media interviews, could Baez have been asking those questions of Melich in an attempt to "clear himself" of any blame for Casey making those statements to LE? In other words, was Baez attempting to stamp it in everyone's minds that he was not to blame for all those statemens/lies that Casey told LE? That he had not yet been retained as her attorney. I can really think of no other reason for that line of questioning.

Maybe he forgets he isn't the one who is going to be on trial? And, if this is his reasoning, IMO, once again he has helped the prosecution--this part can't be any part of an appeal for ineffective counsel, as he points out that he was not her "counsel" @ the time!! Way to go, Jose!!!! :thumbup:

[Amy]

I know! There's just no controlling the CEO! She would be able to run her defense much better than any number of attorneys can, and surely EVERYONE will believe the never-to-be-doubted mighty Casey.

But, of course!!! Doncha remember before (or during or after) one of the first pc's with Casey @ Jose's side, Cindy is going on about how smart her Casey is, and even gives her lawyer advice!!!!

Hey, maybe that is why Jose does not look, act, speak, perform like a real attorney--perhaps @ those times, he was following the advice of his client--the one without a high school diploma or GED, let alone a law degree!!!!! Wonder if she continues to advise him, and if she includes LKB and Ms Lyon in her advising sessions? :lol:

[Amy]

I can see Casey getting upset, fistie upset, as she listens to the state telling the story, backed by evidence, of what she did to poor Caylee. We seen it first hand when she said "Make him stop' at the last hearing.

She'll take notes, the more she listens, the angrier she'll get. She'll be busting at the seams to say something. I can see her going against her attorney's advice and wanting to set things straight. Yes, I can.

I'm thinking of guys I have seen who were so disruptive @ their trials that the only way they were allowed back in was in pretty much a straight jacket and muzzle. Wonder if they would do this for Casey if necessary? Would be interesting to see if they have to quiet Cindy, if they would truss her up like this or just ban her from the courtroom? Well, they'd probably just ban her, but I'm thinking it would be something to see!!!!

[Amy]

Won't that just be a Kodak moment :)

Betcha Kathi Belech's team would be right on it w/their Kodak cameras, too!!! If the trial has live coverage, I'm betting they will have a team to cover the trial itself, and another to cover the sideshows. Or, @ least they would be smart to!!!!

[Amy]

Yes creepy.. and where's your cc and joe joe...... what happened to grandma grandpa. nana pawpa. mamaw papa? I guess they weren't ever called that. but then again maybe they didnt want to be grandma or grandpa...

O/T I am Grandma again. I have a new grandson who weighs 2 lbs 7 oz and 14 1/4 inch long. 13 weeks early.his name is Rylan Daniel Blaen.

Congrats, and pray he will be okay. Prayers for the momma and daddy, too, and the Grandma, of course!!!!

[Amy]

Casey's Predicament - Part Doh

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/

Thanks. Love the way she lines things up and shoots them down!!!!

[Amy]

Once AGAIN, (sorry!)......when did they all come up with the 9th? Had to be between the third 911 call and LE arriving at the A's home.

I imagine BEFORE LE arrived, Cindy realized what a can of worms she had opened and they all settled on that date.

But they really, really should have taken into account about Casey already saying 31 days. And they kept repeating it, even after they came up with June 9. They really dropped the ball on that one, for sure!!!! Guess that's what happens when you try to outsmart the truth.

[Amy]

I can. Baez is incompetent. Seemed to me he was trying to make the point Casey had been *cooperative*. He didn't appear to be able to discern the difference between cooperation with investigators and lying to investigators.

Ugly Coping. Cooperative Lying. Wonder what other new things we will be learning in this case?

[AnnieKins]

Betcha Kathi Belech's team would be right on it w/their Kodak cameras, too!!! If the trial has live coverage, I'm betting they will have a team to cover the trial itself, and another to cover the sideshows. Or, @ least they would be smart to!!!!

I wish they could clone a dozen more of Kathi Belich! :laugh:

[Amy]

Bottom line: Not really, so long as there is "good cause" for a "necessary" delay.

Explanation: The defendant has a right, under the U.S. Constitution, to a "speedy trial." There are various laws that define precisely how fast that "speedy trial" must happen, depending on whether or not the defendant has been charged/arrested/is in pretrial custody etc. However, when the defendant requests that the court continue (postpone) the trial because the defendant needs more time to prepare his defense then the court requires the defendant to "waive time" with regard to the delay; this is fair because the lack of speediness is at the defendant's request.

As I understand it, in Florida the prosecution also has a statutory right to a speedy trial. I think it was Richard Hornsby, Esq.'s blog that explained a criminal trial cannot be continued more than twice over the objection of the prosecution. However, that statutory speedy trial right is trumped by the defendant's rights under the U.S. Constitution to (in a nutshell) prepare his defense including time to sufficiently investigate the facts and circumstances of the case in hopes of locating defense witnesses to subpoena on his behalf, to prepare to cross-examine/confront the witnesses against him and to otherwise enjoy procedural and substantive Due Process of Law. Thus, the trial will be continued as many times as the defense can convince the judge that there is a good reason for the continuance.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Thanks. I always enjoy reading your posts--law 101 in language I can understand!!!!

So, some think that Jose has not started depo's on the state's witnesses. I don't know, they could be, but I'm betting they would be making a big production of it. What happens if they just lollygag along, and don't get around to business on the depo's, then Whoops, Judge--we haven't had a chance to depose those 200 witnesses!!! Can they get away with that? And, how often? It's not like it seems any of the lawyers are ill right now, that would preclude them from deposing. Heck with 3 or 4 (Jose, LKB, Ms Lyon and that guy that starts w/an M) they could each depose 3 or 4 witnesses a day--even more on the ones where there isn't much to depose about. IMO

[AnnieKins]

Ugly Coping. Cooperative Lying. Wonder what other new things we will be learning in this case?

At first I read "Competitive Lying". :laugh: If Competitive Lying were an Olympic event, Cindy would get the gold... hands down!

[Amy]

The only thing I can imagine holding up this trial will be the defense's lack of motivation to actually prepare for it. I can't imagine Judge Stan will have a ton of patience if they attempt delays simply because they haven't been working on the case (the autopsy photo nonsense comes to mind, among other things).

I'm hoping Judge Strickland's insistence that the fraud trial get underway over all the hemming, hawing, and whining of Casey's defense team, is a preview of coming attractions.


BBM

Whenever I hear about ill-written motions, statements they make where it sounds they haven't worked on the case (well, it's kind of hard to, when you go hither and yon to be on tv!!!!) I think, and Jose Baez was selected to teach @ that college ---and his "expertise" was --PREPARING FOR TRIAL??????? Well, I don't think he was invited back--probably will say he told the board he wouldn't have time this semester. And, did the college ever get the law department accedited?

[seeing_eye]

I will. I will go with her. She has given her doctor permission to talk to me so I will pipe up and let him know. He his a very nice doctor and has thanked me many times for bringing her in. I think he is a rare one and really cares.

It's hell getting old.:sad:

BBM
I can attest to that - and I have COPD too.

I wonder if the dream team will be making more media appearances before the fraud trial?

[puzzler]

BBM
I can attest to that - and I have COPD too.

I wonder if the dream team will be making more media appearances before the fraud trial?

Good question. If I was betting, I would bet yes they will. Have to take another stab at the jury pool.

[SayWhen]

Ugly Coping. Cooperative Lying. Wonder what other new things we will be learning in this case?

An infinite number I would imagine, since nothing has to make sense, truth is for suckers, science is junk, facts are annoying, and everyone but Casey is fair game.

[Amy]

She tells the media that Casey is cooperating with the authorities.

HUH?

And it is the media that gets everything wrong and makes "misstatements".

GRRR:cursing:
I tho't Cindy says she and/or Casey may speak "mistruths," but they don't LIE, ya know!!!!!

There is a difference, I guess, if you are an Anthony. The rest of us mortals have to put up with being liars.

[Amy]

I thought they were not defending her in the fraud trial, but another lawyer. Can't remember his name at the moment.

Am I mistaken?:confused:

I tho't that, too, but looked it up and Baez is listed as the attorney for the fraud case.

The case with a different lawyer is ZFG's civil case. Can't remember the name of the guy, but it seems he didn't show up for the A's depo's in that case?

[Amy]

Yeah, a book tour takes precedence over a death penalty case anyday.:ohmy:

Think about it. She's probably pretty sure she is going to rake in a few dollars selling her book. She can't be so sure about getting paid for this death penalty case. :wink:

[seeing_eye]

Oh yes, this is a good one!

What is it with stupid people starting off every sentence with, "You know what?" while they try to think of what they're going to say (lie about) next?! :scared: (My ex-hubs' new wife does this all the time.)

I loved Bill O'Reilly's statement at the end and I"m sure most people would agree with him!!

George starts his sentences with, "You know something?" :w00t:

[puzzler]

You know, I have read how some people sympathize with the Anthony's and even understand what they do because they are trying to save their daughter.

Although I would never trade places with them in a million years, I still cannot sympathize.

If my child killed her child and I knew it, I would be devasted, but all the same would not be still until the truth was told. Yes, it would hurt to lose my child, but it would hurt me just as much to have lost my grandchild.

I guess my point is, the Anthony's should do right by their grandchild and acknowledge Casey's responsibility for the loss. Casey caused the loss and nothing they do or say will change that fact.

I know, I know, I am preaching to the choir.

[really3997]

George starts his sentences with, "You know something?" :w00t:

I thought it was "as a matter of fact" jmo

[seeing_eye]

Thanks for taking the time to look, and the time to report back to us!!! Guess either the A's put them there, or have not been by to see that someone outside the family still thinks of Caylee. My bet would be on the latter!!!!

The Anthonys would be the last people on earth to place flowers there, but will definitely remove them if they know they're there, IMO. Since they never wanted Caylee's remains to be discovered, they do not want those woods even remotely associated with her.

[puzzler]

I thought it was "as a matter of fact" jmo

I told you guys we need to compile a book of "Anthonyisms".:w00t:

[Amy]

oh yes, this is a good one!

What is it with stupid people starting off every sentence with, "you know what?" while they try to think of what they're going to say (lie about) next?! :scared: (my ex-hubs' new wife does this all the time.)

i loved bill o'reilly's statement at the end and i"m sure most people would agree with him!!

absolutely!!!!!!

[Spots™]

I thought it was "as a matter of fact" jmo

Or, "I'll be honest with you guys......"

[Amy]

Who was that first attorney Casey had when she was first arrested?

I didn't know she had any other attorney. I guess maybe @ the first I wasn't paying attention to that part. Probably because all the other stuff was pretty astonishing.

[Amy]

At first I read "Competitive Lying". :laugh: If Competitive Lying were an Olympic event, Cindy would get the gold... hands down!


:lol: Priceless!!!!

[puzzler]

While we are at it, I wish someone would tell Cindy that you don't end a sentence with a preposition.

We still don't know where Caylee's at.

Well, sweetheart, you're not telling us where she's at.

I'm not a stickler, but for some reason that drove me nuts!:blink:

[puzzler]

Or, "I'll be honest with you guys......"

Ask the experts, that right there is a dead giveaway somone's about to lie to you.

[puzzler]

I didn't know she had any other attorney. I guess maybe @ the first I wasn't paying attention to that part. Probably because all the other stuff was pretty astonishing.

I didn't either. Did they appoint her a public defender before Baez took over?

[Katprint]

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/


Indigent status from day 1???

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/20080717-Application-for-Indigent-Status.pdf
On the one hand, it seems entirely possible Casey was making about $3,000 per month ($1,400 biweekly) stealing from her family and friends. In addition to the hundreds of dollars Casey stole from Casey's grandmother, and the hundreds of dollars Casey stole from Amy, and God only knows who else Casey may have stolen from, Cindy had complained to others about Casey stealing tens of thousands of dollars from Cindy and George, and nearly forcing them into bankruptcy. On the other hand, the court generally frowns on ill-gotten gains so maybe that explains the crossing-out of the $1,400 biweekly income amount.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[AnnieKins]

Or, "I'll be honest with you guys......"


... when in fact he's lying through his teeth. :thumbdown:

[BettyC]

I didn't either. Did they appoint her a public defender before Baez took over?

This is the lawyer who first appeared with her at a hearing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-ZLQKn3vos

The judge refers to her as Miss Stevenson (sp?). Casey is asking for a public defender her. (July 18th according to the Youtube.)

[puzzler]

This is the lawyer who first appeared with her at a hearing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-ZLQKn3vos

The judge refers to her as Miss Stevenson (sp?). Casey is asking for a public defender her. (July 18th according to the Youtube.)

Thanks for posting that. I have watched it before and didn't remember the judge asking Casey if she was asking for a public defender.

Makes you wonder what would have happened if she had gotten and stayed with a public defender...:unsure:

[adair]

Thanks for the link

JB's repetitious "It's very complex and it will come out in trial" is not only getting very stale but a pretty lame response if you ask me. :sneaky:

Good Evening Everyone......I have been away from the boards for a few days, trying to catch up.

jb keeps saying he wants it tried in the courtroom, and criticizes the media......What has the SA said on national tv about this trial? I can not think of one thing, other to announce that it was Caylee who was found in the woods. If jb doesnt want this tried in the media, he should keep his mouth shut and off the airwaves.......but then how will he become famous? Or infamous?

Have I missed anything else since New Years Day??

TIA

I would like to add we should have a countdown to trial thread....
jmo moo

[adair]

Good Morning, everyone.:smile:

When watching Casey's bond hearing again the other day, I noticed something Baez did while questioning Yuri Melich. I am no lawyer, but....Baez is asking Melich about before Casey's arrest and the interview where she told all the lies, and the wild goose chase she took them on, and he keeps asking Melich if Casey asked for a lawyer and Melich says no each time. Baez, everytime he asks him says, but she could have, and each time Melich says yes. And each time Baez says, but she didn't, did she, and Melch says no. Baez is trying to drive home the fact that Casey was "voluntarily and freely" speaking to police. (I guess) Seems to me that ultimately what he has done is prevented the defense from trying to get the statements thrown out!

Hope this makes sense, and am I all wet?

:confused:


Makes perfect sense to me.........

Is jb trying to get that thrown out? iirc kc had not requested an attorney, nor had she been read her rights, as she was not under arrest.
So I see this as kc acting like she had nothing to hide....(cough, cough)

Who know how twisted this is going to get, but i bet you that the defense will try like he77 to get that thrown out. Good Luck with that.

jmo moo

[puzzler]

Good Evening Everyone......I have been away from the boards for a few days, trying to catch up.

jb keeps saying he wants it tried in the courtroom, and criticizes the media......What has the SA said on national tv about this trial? I can not think of one thing, other to announce that it was Caylee who was found in the woods. If jb doesnt want this tried in the media, he should keep his mouth shut and off the airwaves.......but then how will he become famous? Or infamous?

Have I missed anything else since New Years Day??

TIA

I would like to add we should have a countdown to trial thread....
jmo moo

ITA

I don't think you have missed anything of official note.

All waiting (im)patiently for the check fraud case.

Welcome, back!:smile: