12/16- 12/23

[Justice4all]

Fox: Jon Gosselin Broke, Won't Get Job

Gosselin's bills are stacking up and he needs to get a legitimate job, but the insider says he is making no effort to get one.

"It's a good thing Kate Gosselin has been put in charge of the family funds that provide for the couple's eight children," the insider says. "She is the responsible parent.”


http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/fox:_jon_gosselin_broke,_won't_get_job

[Justice4all]

"This past year, Jon Gosselin was the most photographed man in America and appeared in more magazines than any other reality TV star. Wherever he goes, there is an outpouring of love for him from his fans. And there is no doubt that he has a bright and shining career ahead of him."
http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/report-jon-gosselin-in-serious-financial-trouble-due-injunction-10099.php

[Justice4all]

Jon & Kate -- The Arbitrator's Verdict is In


Jon Gosselin and soon-to-be-ex Kate Gosselin now know who's going to get what in their divorce. TMZ has learned the arbitrator in their divorce case has made his decision on the subject of dividing money and other property and it has been forwarded to the divorce judge.


http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/16/jon-and-kate-the-verdict-is-in/

[daniel green]

Good news for Kate!

[Justice4all]

Good news for Kate!

and Jon ........and the children......they can all get on with their lives.

I wonder who will get the house or if they still plan on sharing it or sale it.

[daniel green]

"Fearless" singer Taylor Swift graces the cover of People's "most intriguing of 2009," on a list that names mom-of-eight Kate Gosselin the "mother of all reality stars" and British singer Susan Boyle as "the surprise hit," the magazine said on Wednesday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE5BF40U20091216?type=entertainmentNews

[daniel green]

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20331128,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines

[Justice4all]

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20331128,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines

LOL...I wonder how Florence Henderson feels about that.

[Justice4all]

Here is the video...........


"Kate the most watched woman on tv, a title she might have gained at it the price of her marriage"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoPJz-Ze8Ts



I thought it was kind of rude when Barbara rolled her eyes when kate talked about her 7th baby dying.

[daniel green]

The ongoing saga of Jon and Kate Gosselin's deteriorated marriage is finally nearing its end. A source tells RadarOnline.com that Kate is "thrilled" with their arbitrator's decision of how to divide the couple's property and money. Her lawyer also told RadarOnline.com that the couple's divorce finalization is imminent. "She couldn’t be happier,” the source told RadarOnline.com exclusively. "Kate is thrilled." Her lawyer Mark Momjian told RadarOnline.com that his team is "not going to make any comment until the decree is entered." The decision, which was not expected to be made until December 21, is binding and will be transmitted to divorce court. Momjian did say that the divorce finalization would happen sometime between now and the end of the year.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-kate-gosselin-thrilled-divorce-settlement

[Justice4all]

EXCLUSIVE: Kate Gosselin "Thrilled" With Divorce Settlement


"She couldn’t be happier,” the source told RadarOnline.com exclusively. "Kate is thrilled."


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-kate-gosselin-thrilled-divorce-settlement

[Justice4all]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-kate-gosselin-thrilled-divorce-settlement

We must have been posting that at the same time LOL


:thumbsup:

[daniel green]

Here is the video...........




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoPJz-Ze8Ts



I thought it was kind of rude when Barbara rolled her eyes when kate talked about her 7th baby dying.

Justice4all posted:

I loved it when Barbara Walters said Kate sacrificed her marriage for fame....

I have no doubt Kate will be a star,...She'll do anything for fame.

As I said before, BW did not say that Kate sacrificed her marriage to fame.

And she most certainly did not roll her eyes at the sad talk about losing a baby.

[Justice4all]

Justice4all posted:



As I said before, BW did not say that Kate sacrificed her marriage to fame.

And she most certainly did not roll her eyes at the sad talk about losing a baby.

Right she did not say it that way..she said it the way I just quoted.

and did you watch the video? I just did.....Kate said it was first 7 babies and BW's rolled her eyes.

So basically BW's is saying the only reason Kate is a popular on tv right now is at the cost of her marriage..........basically what i had first said but didn't have an exact quote.

[Justice4all]

and why does Barbara always have to say Kate and her "brood of children"? that's just nasty IMO

[daniel green]

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So basically BW's is saying the only reason Kate is a popular on tv right now is at the cost of her marriage..........basically what i had first said but didn't have an exact quote.

Not in the least.

[daniel green]

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So basically BW's is saying the only reason Kate is a popular on tv right now is at the cost of her marriage...........

Absolutely not.

[Justice4all]

Absolutely not.

she said......"Kate the most watched woman on tv, a title she might have gained at it the price of her marriage"


What does that mean to you?

[Justice4all]

Is BW's saying Kate may not be very popular if they wouldn't have got a divorce?

[daniel green]

What BW says is very clear. It doesn't mean one thing to one person and something else to another.

[Mnchkin426]

and Jon ........and the children......they can all get on with their lives.

I wonder who will get the house or if they still plan on sharing it or sale it.

Jon seems to have already moved on with his life. Now Kate and the children will have a chance.

I imagine that the arbitrator will make (has made) the final decision on what happens to the house.

JMO

[daniel green]

For the last three yrs Kate has been the star of a top-rated cable show. 1.0 in the youtube vid.

Do the children know they are famous? 1.20 in the vid

They separated amidst stories of Jon's amorous adventures 1.34 in vid

The divorce became a new kind of reality show (magazine covers shown) 1.36 in vid

It all made Kate one of the most watched women...a title she might have gained at the price of her marriage.
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What you have been stating, Justice, is that BW said that Kate gained her fame at the cost of her marriage:

Justice4all posted:

I loved it when Barbara Walters said Kate sacrificed her marriage for fame....

I have no doubt Kate will be a star,...She'll do anything for fame.


Which is not what BW said in the least. What BW said is that this new kind of "reality show" (the magazine covers, Jon being a staple of bad press, reports, etc) have made Kate one of the most watched women on tv.

NOT, as you have falsely stated, that BW said that fame cost Kate her marriage, let alone that Kate sacrificed her marriage for fame.

[daniel green]

Jon seems to have already moved on with his life. Now Kate and the children will have a chance.

I imagine that the arbitrator will make (has made) the final decision on what happens to the house.

JMO

It is not coincidental that the report of Jon being broke and can't pay his lawyers came out yesterday, I don't think.

Jon and Kate got the Arbitrator's decision yesterday, have signed their agreement to it and it's been sent to divorce judge.

Kate is thrilled with the decision.

Pretty clear which way the decision went.

[Mnchkin426]

Here is the video...........




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoPJz-Ze8Ts



I thought it was kind of rude when Barbara rolled her eyes when kate talked about her 7th baby dying.

Please quote accurately. What Barbara Walters said was "It all made Kate one of the most watched women on TV, a title she may have gained at the price of her marriage."
IMO, that in no way indicates a sacrificing of a marriage for fame....no choice on Kate's part was implied.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Please quote accurately. What Barbara Walters said was "It all made Kate one of the most watched women on TV, a title she may have gained at the price of her marriage."
IMO, that in no way indicates a sacrificing of a marriage for fame....no choice on Kate's part was implied.

JMO

correct...I was wrong and I admit it.
and i've worked hard to find that video...

what exactly did BW mean? Would kate not be popular if her marriage wouldn't have crumbled?

and why did BW's roll her eyes when Kate brought up the 7th baby?

and why does BW's call the children a "brood"?

[Justice4all]

For the last three yrs Kate has been the star of a top-rated cable show. 1.0 in the youtube vid.

Do the children know they are famous? 1.20 in the vid

They separated amidst stories of Jon's amorous adventures 1.34 in vid

The divorce became a new kind of reality show (magazine covers shown) 1.36 in vid

It all made Kate one of the most watched women...a title she might have gained at the price of her marriage.
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What you have been stating, Justice, is that BW said that Kate gained her fame at the cost of her marriage:

Justice4all posted:




Which is not what BW said in the least. What BW said is that this new kind of "reality show" (the magazine covers, Jon being a staple of bad press, reports, etc) have made Kate one of the most watched women on tv.

NOT, as you have falsely stated, that BW said that fame cost Kate her marriage, let alone that Kate sacrificed her marriage for fame.

*yawns*

I said I was wrong...even said at the time if i was wrong I would apologize. I've worked hard to find that. I've even said I didn't know the exact quote......


No two ways about it Kate would not be where she is right now if she wouldn't have got a divorce.

[Mnchkin426]

correct...I was wrong and I admit it.
and i've worked hard to find that video...

what exactly did BW mean? Would kate not be popular if her marriage wouldn't have crumbled?

and why did BW's roll her eyes when Kate brought up the 7th baby?

and why does BW's call the children a "brood"?

I believe that BW was referring to the popularity of the TV show making Kate "most watched" which may have added stress to the marriage.

I didn't see an eye roll.

The word "brood" is simply a slang expression for a large number.....IMO, nothing insulting at all.

JMO

[Justice4all]

It is not coincidental that the report of Jon being broke and can't pay his lawyers came out yesterday, I don't think.

Jon and Kate got the Arbitrator's decision yesterday, have signed their agreement to it and it's been sent to divorce judge.

Kate is thrilled with the decision.

Pretty clear which way the decision went.

Well Jon must of been okay with it he signed it.

I wonder who will get the house , or share it , or sale it. I can't believe anyone in their right mind would want to share it.

Sounds like Jon's lawyers are now working pro-bono.


MHO

[Justice4all]

I believe that BW was referring to the popularity of the TV show making Kate "most watched" which may have added stress to the marriage.

I didn't see an eye roll.

The word "brood" is simply a slang expression for a large number.....IMO, nothing insulting at all.

JMO

you did not see the eye rolling? Okay what kind of face do you call that?

Sounds like BW's believes the show cost kate her marriage. MHO

[daniel green]

I believe that BW was referring to the popularity of the TV show making Kate "most watched" which may have added stress to the marriage.

I didn't see an eye roll.

The word "brood" is simply a slang expression for a large number.....IMO, nothing insulting at all.

JMO

BW said that Kate had been the star of a very popular cable show for 3 yrs.

So, no, the popularity did not arise from the divorce.

BW lumped in all the tabloids/reports/mag covers as "new kind of reality show."

And that due to that huge focus, Kate became the most watched woman on tv.

First of all--certainly, that is not meant to be taken literally since Kate is certainly not the most watched woman on TV.

And the converse of what BW's said is certainly not true--that IF she had not gotten divorced she would not be watched. The vid starts out with how Kate was the star of a very popular tv show for 3 yrs.

There was no eyeroll.

"Brood" is actually a term of affection.

[daniel green]

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Sounds like BW's believes the show cost kate her marriage. MHO

Geeze louise. :rolleyes:

[daniel green]

Well Jon must of been okay with it he signed it.

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He doesn't have a choice. The Arbitrator makes the decision.

[Mnchkin426]

He doesn't have a choice. The Arbitrator makes the decision.

Exactly! Jon agreed to abide by the arbitrators decision when they went into arbitration, so he has to follow through.

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

you did not see the eye rolling? Okay what kind of face do you call that?

Sounds like BW's believes the show cost kate her marriage. MHO

Afraid I don't agree but you're welcome to your opinion.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Afraid I don't agree but you're welcome to your opinion.

JMO

What did you see BW's do?

[Mnchkin426]

What did you see BW's do?

Good grief! I really don't understand why you are focusing on this.....seems very trivial. After reviewing the tape once again to be sure, I saw a glance to the side as if something briefly caught BW's attention.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Good grief! I really don't understand why you are focusing on this.....seems very trivial. After reviewing the tape once again to be sure, I saw a glance to the side as if something briefly caught BW's attention.

JMO

Sorry I'll shut up about it. I just thought her facial expression and rolling of her eyes at that time was very rude.

I've lost a child and if BW would have done that about my son I would have said something to her.

You have a nice day Mnchkin.......

[daniel green]

Good grief! I really don't understand why you are focusing on this.....seems very trivial. After reviewing the tape once again to be sure, I saw a glance to the side as if something briefly caught BW's attention.

JMO

No kidding. Or as if she glanced sideways out of pain for Kate. Although it actually happens when Kate said that 7 was scarier than 6.

[Mnchkin426]

Sorry I'll shut up about it. I just thought her facial expression and rolling of her eyes at that time was very rude.

I've lost a child and if BW would have done that about my son I would have said something to her.

You have a nice day Mnchkin.......

I'm sorry that you felt a personal affront. I have lost a child as well and just don't see it the way that you did.

You have a nice day, too, Justice.

JMO

[Justice4all]

No kidding. Or as if she glanced sideways out of pain for Kate. Although it actually happens when Kate said that 7 was scarier than 6.

out of pain for kate.........oh Please...if that were the case why did BW's then bring up kate could have reduced the number?

[Justice4all]

I'm sorry that you felt a personal affront. I have lost a child as well and just don't see it the way that you did.

You have a nice day, too, Justice.

JMO

I just thought it was all rude and bad timing. kate said that then barbara shakes her head and rolls her eyes and then asks kate about well she could have reduced the number of babies...

I'm not saying anything bad about kate i'm saying something about BW's and everyones getting upset. I just don't get that at all. Oh well. I really give up with this thread and a few people on it.

Be well.......

[daniel green]

out of pain for kate.........oh Please...if that were the case why did BW's then bring up kate could have reduced the number?

Because BW is a journalist and knows the answer to the question she asked.

It appears that you do not know about BW's own history with infertility if you think that BW was being insensitive.

[daniel green]

I'm sorry that you felt a personal affront. I have lost a child as well and just don't see it the way that you did.

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And neither did Kate, to whom the question was asked and who has lost a child as well.

[Mnchkin426]

I just thought it was all rude and bad timing. kate said that then barbara shakes her head and rolls her eyes and then asks kate about well she could have reduced the number of babies...

I'm not saying anything bad about kate i'm saying something about BW's and everyones getting upset. I just don't get that at all. Oh well. I really give up with this thread and a few people on it.

Be well.......

Never said you were criticizing Kate. Don't think anyone is getting upset. I just have an opinion about BW's expression that is different that yours. Isn't that okay?

JMO

[Justice4all]

Because BW is a journalist and knows the answer to the question she asked.

It appears that you do not know about BW's own history with infertility if you think that BW was being insensitive.

Yes I know about BW's own history with infertility and how she adopted her daughter. Look I have my opinion and you have yours and we are not BW's so we don't know exactly what she was thinking.

IMO if Jon would have rolled his eyes like BW's did while Kate was talking about the 7th baby everyone would be all over him. Just like their are pictures of the children sitting on his ATV and people go crazy but theres a video of Kate being yelled at to slow down with her child on an ATV and you fluff that off.........and say well it can only go 15-20 mph...why is that?

[Justice4all]

Never said you were criticizing Kate. Don't think anyone is getting upset. I just have an opinion about BW's expression that is different that yours. Isn't that okay?

JMO


Of course......

Is it okay if I give my opinion?

[Justice4all]

Jon Gosselin May Have Divorce Snag


Documents filed in Montgomery County (Pa.) court in Norristown, Pa., on Wednesday show the former reality TV show stars signed off on the divorce and the arbitrator’s paperwork was also sent to the judge.

But there is an hearing on Thursday in court to discuss fees payable to Jon Gosselin’s lawyers These fees would need to be paid before property can be distributed in the case.



http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/jon_gosselin_may_have_divorce_snag

I have a stupid question. Is Jon evil enough that he will say he's broke and can't pay just so the divorce won't be finalized?

[Mnchkin426]

Of course......

Is it okay if I give my opinion?

I believe that I already did say it was okay. Please check post #34.

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

Jon Gosselin May Have Divorce Snag





http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/jon_gosselin_may_have_divorce_snag

I have a stupid question. Is Jon evil enough that he will say he's broke and can't pay just so the divorce won't be finalized?

Have no idea what this might mean but sounds like it will be resolved tomorrow. I assumed that Jon's legal fees would be taken out of his share of the property settlement. Sounds like Heller and Heller might be a bit worried about getting paid after all.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Have no idea what this might mean but sounds like it will be resolved tomorrow. I assumed that Jon's legal fees would be taken out of his share of the property settlement. Sounds like Heller and Heller might be a bit worried about getting paid after all.

JMO

Well I think it's pretty crabby if some of the money has to come out of Kate's part. Jon and his lawyers are all slimy IMO

[daniel green]

Heller always seems like the last to know.


“We’re gonna get a formal copy of [the arbitrator ruling],” Jon’s attorney Mark Heller told RadarOnline.com. “Some issues still need to be addressed. It’s a work in progress.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-kate-gosselin-thrilled-divorce-settlement#comments

I wonder what part of final and binding Heller doesn't get? :blushing:

Bless his heart, he wasn't even allowed at the atty's table.

[Mnchkin426]

Well I think it's pretty crabby if some of the money has to come out of Kate's part. Jon and his lawyers are all slimy IMO

I totally agree. Would have thought that legal fees would have been included in the arbitrator's final judgement...probably each is responsible for their own legal fees. Seems to me that if Jon doesn't have the money to pay his lawyers, that is between him and the Hellers......not Kate's problem.

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

Heller always seems like the last to know.




http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-kate-gosselin-thrilled-divorce-settlement#comments

I wonder what part of final and binding Heller doesn't get? :blushing:

Bless his heart, he wasn't even allowed at the atty's table.

Maybe the part where he may not get paid.

JMO

[Justice4all]

I totally agree. Would have thought that legal fees would have been included in the arbitrator's final judgement...probably each is responsible for their own legal fees. Seems to me that if Jon doesn't have the money to pay his lawyers, that is between him and the Hellers......not Kate's problem.

JMO

That's what I'm thinking but that's not really the way the article put it.

[Justice4all]

Maybe the part where he may not get paid.

JMO

yeah what happen to what they were saying yesterday about it didn't really matter if they got paid or not. I can't stand this guy.

[Justice4all]

Heller always seems like the last to know.




http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-kate-gosselin-thrilled-divorce-settlement#comments

I wonder what part of final and binding Heller doesn't get? :blushing:

Bless his heart, he wasn't even allowed at the atty's table.

sounds like there could be a little snag with lawyers getting paid. Did you see the link I put up?

[Mnchkin426]

That's what I'm thinking but that's not really the way the article put it.

That isn't the way the article put it but it also didn't say who was going to be involved in the hearing. Heller may be trying to weasel his way in to getting paid before the property settlement is paid. Since Jon and Kate apparently have signed the agreement and it has been sent to the judge, I wonder if it isn't too late to change things.

ETA: Do you suppose that this might indicate that Jon and the Hellers have split?

JMO

[Justice4all]

Harvey's about to do his live answer questions..and he's going to talk about Jon and Kate
http://www.tmz.com/

[Justice4all]

That isn't the way the article put it but it also didn't say who was going to be involved in the hearing. Heller may be trying to weasel his way in to getting paid before the property settlement is paid. Since Jon and Kate apparently have signed the agreement and it has been sent to the judge, I wonder if it isn't too late to change things.

ETA: Do you suppose that this might indicate that Jon and the Hellers have split?

JMO

I wish they would split..

Might be signed and sent to the Judge but it says there will be a hearing tomorrow...so there must be things they have to work out.


"But there is an hearing on Thursday in court to discuss fees payable to Jon Gosselin’s lawyers These fees would need to be paid before property can be distributed in the case."


BBM why in the world can't the property be distributed and Jon pay his bills out of whatever he gets?

[Mnchkin426]

I wish they would split..

Might be signed and sent to the Judge but it says there will be a hearing tomorrow...so there must be things they have to work out.


"But there is an hearing on Thursday in court to discuss fees payable to Jon Gosselin’s lawyers These fees would need to be paid before property can be distributed in the case."


BBM why in the world can't the property be distributed and Jon pay his bills out of whatever he gets?

Doesn't say who is going to be doing the discussing. Also, doesn't say who said the fees would have to be paid before the property can be distributed. For all we know, Heller is the one making these allegations.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Doesn't say who is going to be doing the discussing. Also, doesn't say who said the fees would have to be paid before the property can be distributed. For all we know, Heller is the one making these allegations.

JMO

Very true..I guess we'll find out tomorrow. or will we ever find out? or will the divorce papers be sealed?

[Justice4all]

Okay I can't listen to this TMZ bull any longer. Sorry.

[daniel green]

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jon-gosselins-got-a-gun-213322/


Causing a bit of a commotion, Jon Gosselin was spotted out earlier today (December 16) with a gun in Reading, Pennsylvania.

Bundled up for the chilly weather, the father of 8 headed out to his backyard where he fired the small handgun. It’s a tad disturbing knowing Gosselin has possesion of a gun, especially since earlier today an arbitrator finished up with the division of the money and property he had with estranged wife, Kate. Furthermore, Jon was recently ordered to stop making media appearances due to a breach of contract with TLC network.

[daniel green]

Heller says there's no sign that the octodad is hurting for cash after a court order was issued last week for him to stop making paid public appearances in violation of his TLC contract.

"I don't know anything about him not meeting his obligations," says Heller. "Jon has met all appropriate legal obligations.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b158326_jon_kate_no_divorce_christmas.html

Oh, well.

I think Heller is right about the "I don't know anything" part.

[Justice4all]

http://www.celebrity-gossip.net/celebrities/hollywood/jon-gosselins-got-a-gun-213322/

Why are you crying?
My husband and sons go our to our farm and shoot their guns all the time.
Please don't tell you are worried Jon might hurt Kate or the children.
Good to see Jon's at the house...but now i'm really wonder what the arbitrator said.

[daniel green]

Wearing a knit cap, jeans, sweater, and vest, Jon stood by a fence of the family's Pennsylvania estate and fired off some few rounds.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/photos-watch-out-everyone-jon-gosselin-has-gun

Gosh, it's as if he wants to lose all visitation with his children.

[Justice4all]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/photos-watch-out-everyone-jon-gosselin-has-gun

Gosh, it's as if he wants to lose all visitation with his children.

were the children there?
and how can he lose visitation of his children by shooting his gun?
millions of parents do that everyday.

[Justice4all]

Is Jon back living at the house again?

[daniel green]

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/16/jon-gosselin-gun-kate-gosselin-divorce-photo/

[Justice4all]

I'm starting to get the feeling Jon's back living at the house.

[Justice4all]

Jon and Kate Gosselin's Divorce Will Not Be Finalized Until 2010


"Jon is optimistically looking forward to the new year," Heller says, "When he can join hand-in-hand with his former wife to pursue an amiable and a cordial and a cooperative effort in the role of mom and dad."


http://www.tvguide.com/News/Jon-Gosselin-Divorce-1013188.aspx?rss=breakingnews

[Justice4all]

Report: Jon Gosselin in "serious financial trouble" due to injunction


"This past year, Jon Gosselin was the most photographed man in America and appeared in more magazines than any other reality TV star. Wherever he goes, there is an outpouring of love for him from his fans. And there is no doubt that he has a bright and shining career ahead of him."

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/report-jon-gosselin-in-serious-financial-trouble-due-injunction-10099.php

[Justice4all]

Jon & Kate: No Divorce for Christmas?

Looks like "divorcing Jon" is moving from Kate Gosselin's Christmas list to the top of her New Year's resolutions.Despite word that the former reality fun couple's divorce was "imminent," the lawyer for Jon Gosselin tells E! News that it's not likely to happen until after the calendar flips."That might be a little premature," says attorney Mark Heller of a TMZ report that the arbitrator overseeing the case had made a ruling. "That's still a work in progress. We’re waiting for a final decision."

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b158326_jon_kate_no_divorce_christmas.html?utm_sou rce=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories

[Justice4all]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/photos-watch-out-everyone-jon-gosselin-has-gun

Gosh, it's as if he wants to lose all visitation with his children.

I wonder who the man and woman are thats' with Jon. and the yellow box in Jon's hand is a gun box that only opens with a key. So it's good to see he's keeping it in a safe place.

And I also notice he's coming out of the apartment. I'm really starting to think he's back living on the property.


MOO

[Mnchkin426]

were the children there?
and how can he lose visitation of his children by shooting his gun?
millions of parents do that everyday.

Millions of parents shoot guns on their property everyday? No way!

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/photos-watch-out-everyone-jon-gosselin-has-gun

Gosh, it's as if he wants to lose all visitation with his children.

Looks to me like he is firing over the property line....away from his own land. Is that legal? Actually, is it legal to fire a weapon where the Gosselins live? Why doesn't he go to a firing range rather than risk hitting someone or something? Seems irresponsible to me. I hate guns!!!

JMO

[Justice4all]

Looks to me like he is firing over the property line....away from his own land. Is that legal? Actually, is it legal to fire a weapon where the Gosselins live? Why doesn't he go to a firing range rather than risk hitting someone or something? Seems irresponsible to me. I hate guns!!!

JMO

You can see a property line in that photo?
They have 15 acres.

[Justice4all]

Millions of parents shoot guns on their property everyday? No way!

JMO

with 4 million people now in the NRA i'll bet a few of them shoot their guns on their own property everyday.

[Mnchkin426]

You can see a property line in that photo?
They have 15 acres.

He's next to the fence. I assume that is the property line.

JMO

[birdwatch]

LOL...I wonder how Florence Henderson feels about that.

DId I miss something in that link? Where does Florence fit in to all this?

[Justice4all]

He's next to the fence. I assume that is the property line.

JMO

I'm not sure that's a property line. We have 50 acres and we have a fence up front where our old house is and the barn but then there is a whole 41 acres around that fenced in part.

My husband and sons practice shooting there with their gun,pistols and bows. and then they deer hunt in the back half in hunting season.

[Mnchkin426]

with 4 million people now in the NRA i'll bet a few of them shoot their guns on their own property everyday.

Many of those people live within city limits where it is illegal to discharge a firearm.....so I doubt it.

JMO

[Justice4all]

see the fence line where the barn and all that is?
http://bunnywithfangs.com/2009/01/05/jon-kate-plus-8-controversy/gosselins3/

he was probably way back there shooting...MOO

[Justice4all]

Many of those people live within city limits where it is illegal to discharge a firearm.....so I doubt it.

JMO

Okay I won't fight with you. Maybe only one or two people go out practice shooting a day :thumbup: Jon was one of them today.

[Justice4all]

Hey didn't Kate learn how to shoot a gun when she was at the dude ranch?

[Mnchkin426]

I'm not sure that's a property line. We have 50 acres and we have a fence up front where our old house is and the barn but then there is a whole 41 acres around that fenced in part.

My husband and sons practice shooting there with their gun,pistols and bows. and then they deer hunt in the back half in hunting season.


Property line or not, the Gosselins do live in a residential area so it seems dangerous to me to be firing off a gun. Why not go to a firing range?

JMO

[Justice4all]

Property line or not, the Gosselins do live in a residential area so it seems dangerous to me to be firing off a gun. Why not go to a firing range?

JMO

Ohhh they live in a residential area? I honestly didn't know that. For some crazy reason I thought they were out in the country. :scared:
Maybe i'll have to try and find out the gun laws for that area.

[Mnchkin426]

Ohhh they live in a residential area? I honestly didn't know that. For some crazy reason I thought they were out in the country. :scared:
Maybe i'll have to try and find out the gun laws for that area.

IMO, one can live in the country and still be in a residential area where there are other houses around. They do have neighbors. Remember, Kate and the tups walked to the neighboring dairy farm in the last episode. Must be close.

Can you answer my question about why someone wouldn't go to a firing range if they wanted to practice shooting? It seems to me that it would be much safer.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Oh I was wrong they own 26 acres.

[Justice4all]

IMO, one can live in the country and still be in a residential area where there are other houses around. They do have neighbors. Remember, Kate and the tups walked to the neighboring dairy farm in the last episode. Must be close.

Can you answer my question about why someone wouldn't go to a firing range if they wanted to practice shooting? It seems to me that it would be much safer.

JMO

Oh I was going to answer that question and forgot . Sorry
Some people like to set up targets on their own property. I know we have 50 acres outside the city limits and we shoot our guns all the time. Our neighbors do the same thing.
Different feeling when you shoot at a gun range then what it is on your own property.


MOO

[Justice4all]

DId I miss something in that link? Where does Florence fit in to all this?

You must have missed this part..

To read more about Swift and her fellow Intriguers – including Kate Gosselin photographed as quintessential 70s TV mom Carol Brady, the Housewives posing as battling beauty pageant queens, and the Kardashian sisters as Beyoncé's Single Ladies – pick up PEOPLE's 25 Most Intriguing People, on newsstands Friday

[Mnchkin426]

Oh I was going to answer that question and forgot . Sorry
Some people like to set up targets on their own property. I know we have 50 acres outside the city limits and we shoot our guns all the time. Our neighbors do the same thing.
Different feeling when you shoot at a gun range then what it is on your own property.


MOO

Well, shooting holds no appeal in any form for me. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Well, shooting holds no appeal in any form for me. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

JMO

Kate seemed to like it.

I find it strange that Kate road on the ATV with the boys so Jon bought one for Cara ...and Kate shot a pistol so then Jon gets one....Is he trying to keep up or do things she likes...I'm really confused.


Everything i've read about Reading PA sounds like they love their guns. but I don't know what the exact ordinance is for where they live. Sorry. I'm trying to find it.

I know a lot of people that have pistols when they own land just in case coyotes or wolves come up.

[daniel green]

Millions of parents shoot guns on their property everyday? No way!

JMO

Of course not. On their property line.

The very idea is preposterous.

No person experienced with guns would say/do such a crazy thing.

[Justice4all]

Of course not. On their property line.

The very idea is preposterous.

No person experienced with guns would say/do such a crazy thing.

I've already posted a photo ..he was not on his property line. But i'm sure you already knew that.

[daniel green]

Looks to me like he is firing over the property line....away from his own land. Is that legal? Actually, is it legal to fire a weapon where the Gosselins live? Why doesn't he go to a firing range rather than risk hitting someone or something? Seems irresponsible to me. I hate guns!!!

JMO

TOTALLY irresponsible. :cursing:

I wonder if, indeed, it is even legal to do such a thing there.

It certainly would not be legal in NC. Just this past week I had a kid in court who decided to shoot a rifle outside in his parents' farm, at a tree. He promptly was arrested.

[daniel green]

I've already posted a photo ..he was not on his property line. But i'm sure you already knew that.

Unless someone has posted something here I have missed, you have no idea where Jon was when he shot that gun, in a residential area.

[daniel green]

IMO, one can live in the country and still be in a residential area where there are other houses around. They do have neighbors. Remember, Kate and the tups walked to the neighboring dairy farm in the last episode. Must be close.

Can you answer my question about why someone wouldn't go to a firing range if they wanted to practice shooting? It seems to me that it would be much safer.

JMO

Very close. A working farm right next door.

And deer in their backyard.

In a residential area.

The answer, of course, is that Jon couldn't get a picture taken at a gun rage.

How totally and completely irresponsible. :cursing:

[daniel green]

I've already posted a photo ..he was not on his property line. But i'm sure you already knew that.

Just looked at this. Completely he was at his property line.

[Justice4all]

Just looked at this. Completely he was at his property line.

I'm sorry i disagree.
If you are worried about Kate, the children or his neighbors you might want to call the Reading police dept.

or you might want to take the time to look up PA hunting laws on private property.

[Justice4all]

Very close. A working farm right next door.

And deer in their backyard.

In a residential area.

The answer, of course, is that Jon couldn't get a picture taken at a gun rage.

How totally and completely irresponsible. :cursing:

I wonder if Kate felt like it was totally and completely irresponsible...If so i'm sure she'll call the law.

How do you know its a residential area?

[Justice4all]

If anyone wants to contact the police the house is in Wernersville, Pennsylvania,... Berks County

[daniel green]

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or you might want to take the time to look up PA hunting laws on private property.

Why?

What would hunting laws have to do with it? :confused:

[daniel green]

Property line or not, the Gosselins do live in a residential area so it seems dangerous to me to be firing off a gun. Why not go to a firing range?

JMO

You can see, in the areal map Justice linked to, exactly where that fence is on the property, and the trees OFF his property, into which Jon was firing.

[Justice4all]

Why?

What would hunting laws have to do with it? :confused:

If you are out of the city limit's it's some times legal to target practice and hunt on your own property....

[Justice4all]

You can see, in the areal map Justice linked to, exactly where that fence is on the property, and the trees OFF his property, into which Jon was firing.

No ma'am you can't. the property goes on behind that. Do you know exactly where the property lines are?

[daniel green]

If you are out of the city limit's it's some times legal to target practice and hunt on your own property....

He was not hunting.

[daniel green]

No ma'am you can't. the property goes on behind that. Do you know exactly where the property lines are?

They have recently installed a white security fence along the perimeter of the property

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_some_opinions_about_Jon_and_Kate_moving

[Justice4all]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_some_opinions_about_Jon_and_Kate_moving

you are going by what wiki answers says?

Yes ma'am i'm not going to argue with you.

[Justice4all]

He was not hunting.

he was target practicing..Not illegal. Please before you accuse people of things go look up the laws. Thanks

[Justice4all]

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_some_opinions_about_Jon_and_Kate_moving

the fence Jon is shooting by is not a white security fence....You might want to go look

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/photos-watch-out-everyone-jon-gosselin-has-gun

[daniel green]

he was target practicing..Not illegal. Please before you accuse people of things go look up the laws. Thanks

Goodness to betsy, Justice, you are the one who brought up hunting. It is clear he is not hunting, from the pictures.

The house is inside city limits and there are ordinances about discharging a hand gun inside city limits.

[Justice4all]

Goodness to betsy, Justice, you are the one who brought up hunting. It is clear he is not hunting, from the pictures.

The house is inside city limits and there are ordinances about discharging a hand gun inside city limits.

I thought the house was in the country by a farm.
and this is what the white fence looks like
http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/6470/2009/05/jon-and-kate-gosselin-ride

and yes if you look at the PA hunting laws it talks about landowners living outside the city limits. talks about hunting,fishing, target practice and all that kind of stuff.

[Debbie_]

Many people target practice on their own property.
Its just the fact that its Christmas and he's lost just about everything (his doing) it makes my blood run cold. Why does he need to bring out the gun now:scared

[Justice4all]

Target shooting is lawful only when done: (1) on property owned by the shooter or by a guest of the property owner; (2) within 200 yards of a camp or headquarters where the shooter is either quartered or an invited guest; (3) at an established shooting range. The target must be protected by a natural or artificial barrier so that the bullet or arrow cannot travel more than 15 yards beyond the target.

http://www.pgc.state.pa.us

[Justice4all]

I hear ya!!! It's just more and more odd and creepy behavior on his part. I shudder to think what could happen if one of those children got ahold of it. It's not as if he's the most careful individual when it comes to hiding things.

why should he hide target practicing?
You can see he's being safe with the gun he has a yellow gun box that has a lock on it.
Would you feel better about the situation if Kate would have been out there shooting with him?

Good to see Jon was at the house...I hope he spent some time with the children. I'm starting to think he's back living on the property in the apartment over the garage.

[Debbie_]

I don't wish John any harm. But he seems very unstable now and doesn't make wise choices. He hasn't always been this way or at least it wasn't so noticeable.
I would like to think he would keep his children safe.

[Justice4all]

Where did that come from? Who said anything about him hiding his target practicing? :confused:

I was talking about how awful it would be if the kids somehow got ahold of his new toy. He's not exactly Mr. Responsibility these days. :rolleyes:

How do you know it's new?
Millions of parents have guns.
How do you know the children were even there?
I have no doubt he will make sure his children are safe.

Do you think Kate was safe when she was driving really fast with her son on the ATV and the man was screaming at her to slow down?

Was it okay for Kate to shoot a gun at the dude ranch? What if the children would have got a hold of one of the guns that was on the ranch?

Why make this into something it really isn't?


MOO

[Justice4all]

I don't wish John any harm. But he seems very unstable now and doesn't make wise choices. He hasn't always been this way or at least it wasn't so noticeable.
I would like to think he would keep his children safe.

Has Jon ever put his children in harms way?

[Justice4all]

Many people target practice on their own property.
Its just the fact that its Christmas and he's lost just about everything (his doing) it makes my blood run cold. Why does he need to bring out the gun now:scared

What has Jon lost besides a court case?
He has 8 wonderful children, a family that loves him, friends, a big huge house, nice cars....He'll be fine.

[Justice4all]

I don't care how many people have guns. I don't care where the children were. Jon isn't very stable at this time is my point. If you've had kids, you know it's never easy keeping anything out of their inquisitive hands. Nor has he shown himself to be very adept at hiding anything. Infidelity for example.

As for what I think about Kate riding the ATV with her son, I already posted what I thought about that.

More than one man has turned a gun on himself as well as others for whatever insane reasons. I find his behavior since the separation to be more than a little outrageous, and for someone with his track record to be target shooting gives me the heebs.

I'm not making this into anything it isn't, and even if I were, that'd be just too bad, so sad. This is a message board. I'm entitled to my opinion. Don't like it? Don't read my posts. Easy, peasy.

Since Thanksgiving name me one crazy thing Jon's done?
We haven't seen him with any women, he's been in PA at the mall, taking the children to school, riding the ATV and shooting his pistol. Sounds to me like he's finally realizing it's time to grow up and calm down some.

MOO

[Justice4all]

BBM


You are so right! How many news stories recently have we seen about fathers taking out their whole family because of a temporary situation? Hopefully, the apartment above the garage is all of the house he has access to.

So you want Jon to watch all 8 kids up in the apartment when it's his weekend?

[daniel green]

I hear ya!!! It's just more and more odd and creepy behavior on his part. I shudder to think what could happen if one of those children got ahold of it. It's not as if he's the most careful individual when it comes to hiding things.

The timing of it...:ohmy:

Totally agree, Spyder. Gets creepier and weirder by the day.

[daniel green]

why should he hide target practicing?
You can see he's being safe with the gun he has a yellow gun box that has a lock on it.
snipped.

Oh, for heavens sakes.

No dad of 8 young kids needs a hand-gun, and, most especially, doesn't need to be shooting it at the edge of his property.

As to the "target practice" and "hunting" allegations you have made, don't have a thing to do with the facts.

Shooting a hand-gun in the direction of trees inside the city limits is, ipso facto, unsafe.

[Justice4all]

Oh, for heavens sakes.

No dad of 8 young kids needs a hand-gun, and, most especially, doesn't need to be shooting it at the edge of his property.

As to the "target practice" and "hunting" allegations you have made, don't have a thing to do with the facts.

Shooting a hand-gun in the direction of trees inside the city limits is, ipso facto, unsafe.

you do not know that was the edge of his property so stop saying it was without proof.

and I told you to read the hunting LAWS I never said he was hunting. The article said he was target practicing. Did you even read it?

and Jim Bob Duggar has 19 kids and he owns several guns, rifles and pistols.


and why don't you prove to me that his lands in the city limits.......

[daniel green]

Since Thanksgiving name me one crazy thing Jon's done?
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You mean, other than being out all night at a bar and after-hours club and going home to his kids at 5am?

Shooting a HAND gun into trees on the edge of his property is crazy, too.

Whether or not it's illegal we shall know soon enough.

What he has lost? Is that rhetorical? :ohmy::blushing:

Other than shared custody of the kids? A way to make any money selling pics/interviews to tabs? Hosting gigs at bars and pools? Whatever he lost as per the Arbitrator (Kate would not be thrilled otherwise)? The fact that he is broke? The fact he is looking at a trial in April where TLC is gonna take him to the cleaners and he might have to pay them the money he made from the breaching-of-contract appearances?

Need any more examples?

[daniel green]

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and why don't you prove to me that his lands in the city limits.......

I am not going to post the Gosselin address. That is against TOS.

[daniel green]

snippedThe article said he was target practicing. Did you even read it?


snipped.......

You took that LITERALLY? :blushing: Like there was a target out there in the trees?

Those "laws" you posted are about hunting, btw.

[daniel green]

you do not know that was the edge of his property so stop saying it was without proof.

and I told you to read the hunting LAWS I never said he was hunting. snipped......

I do know.

Again, why would anyone have to read hunting laws? There was no hunting involved?

Jon was out there shooting a hand-gun into trees.

[daniel green]

BBM


You are so right! How many news stories recently have we seen about fathers taking out their whole family because of a temporary situation? Hopefully, the apartment above the garage is all of the house he has access to.

I tell you, PoppySeeds, those pictures of him out there with a hand gun just scared me. And I don't scare easily.

[daniel green]

We haven't seen him with any women, he's been in PA at the mall, taking the children to school, riding the ATV and shooting his pistol. snipped MOO

Nope. We have not seen him taking his children to school. No, we have not.

And you say "riding the ATV" (Cara's) and "shooting his pistol" like those are just common, ole things dads do every day.

[Justice4all]

You took that LITERALLY? :blushing: Like there was a target out there in the trees?

Those "laws" you posted are about hunting, btw.

No ma'am they were about target practice. not hunting.

[Justice4all]

Nope. We have not seen him taking his children to school. No, we have not.

And you say "riding the ATV" (Cara's) and "shooting his pistol" like those are just common, ole things dads do every day.

I ride my ATV almost everyday when I go with my daughter to feed the horses.

and I shoot a pistol at least once a week.

[daniel green]

No ma'am they were about target practice. not hunting.

You really need to read again. The tip off was that they were under HUNTING.

[Justice4all]

You mean, other than being out all night at a bar and after-hours club and going home to his kids at 5am?

Shooting a HAND gun into trees on the edge of his property is crazy, too.

Whether or not it's illegal we shall know soon enough.

What he has lost? Is that rhetorical? :ohmy::blushing:

Other than shared custody of the kids? A way to make any money selling pics/interviews to tabs? Hosting gigs at bars and pools? Whatever he lost as per the Arbitrator (Kate would not be thrilled otherwise)? The fact that he is broke? The fact he is looking at a trial in April where TLC is gonna take him to the cleaners and he might have to pay them the money he made from the breaching-of-contract appearances?

Need any more examples?
Do you have any proof Jon went out drinking? if you do share it if not maybe we shouldn't talk about RUMORS.

He has shared custody, Kate just has primary custody.

Come on lets talk about facts and not RUMORS

[Justice4all]

You really need to read again. The tip off was that they were under HUNTING.

No ma'am I did not find this under hunting. I found this info under land owner target shooting.

Target shooting is lawful only when done: (1) on property owned by the shooter or by a guest of the property owner; (2) within 200 yards of a camp or headquarters where the shooter is either quartered or an invited guest; (3) at an established shooting range. The target must be protected by a natural or artificial barrier so that the bullet or arrow cannot travel more than 15 yards beyond the target.

http://www.pgc.state.pa.us

[Justice4all]

If the fence is on the "perimeter" of the property, and he is shooting OVER the fence, I wonder where those bullets ended up. An object in motion tends to stay in motion until something stops it. We had a case here locally a few years ago where a 5 year old ended up in the hospital because some nut job was shooting a pistol in the air three or four blocks from where the child was playing and when the bullet came down, it struck the child in the back.
Guns don't kill people, it's the idiots with their finger in the trigger that kill people.

the fence was not on the perimeter and he was not shooting over the fence. Come on people stop with the lies and rumors and lets talk about facts.

he was "target shooting". Nothing more.

[Justice4all]

I do know.

Again, why would anyone have to read hunting laws? There was no hunting involved?

Jon was out there shooting a hand-gun into trees.

where does it say into the trees?

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/photos-watch-out-everyone-jon-gosselin-has-gun

http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/16/jon-gosselin-gun-kate-gosselin-divorce-photo/

[daniel green]

If the fence is on the "perimeter" of the property, and he is shooting OVER the fence, I wonder where those bullets ended up. An object in motion tends to stay in motion until something stops it. We had a case here locally a few years ago where a 5 year old ended up in the hospital because some nut job was shooting a pistol in the air three or four blocks from where the child was playing and when the bullet came down, it struck the child in the back.
Guns don't kill people, it's the idiots with their finger in the trigger that kill people.

I hear ya.

I know the juvenile I worked with was shooting at a tree in his own yard and he was sent to a locked down facility.

The problems you bring up are exactly the reasons why there are ordinances prohibiting shooting guns like that. It is dangerous.

[Justice4all]

Okay I just looked up Jon and Kate's address on their divorce papers and then I googled it on google maps..they are clearly out of the city limits. That must be why they have to meet the bus at the shopping center.


MOO

[daniel green]

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http://www.pgc.state.pa.us

Welcome to the Game Commission's Home Page

I rest my case.

[Justice4all]

I rest my case.

yes ma'am LOL... and it says land owners on the right...see it? I rest my case.

I'm out of here. Hopefully CW will clean up some of the rumors and slanderous comments by morning.

[Justice4all]

I am not going to post the Gosselin address. That is against TOS.

Never asked you too...don't make up more rumors please.

[daniel green]

Jon Gosselin seems to have picked up a new hobby now that he no longer has those pesky personal appearances taking up his time -- shooting practice.

Paparazzi took some snaps of Gosselin today at his Pennsylvania estate out in the yard with a small handgun.

Then, in plain view, Gosselin fired some shots at an unknown target. Was he sending photogs a warning?

Who knows, but it does seem to be strange behavior for a father while at home with his 8 children -- which presumably he was, since the current arrangement with his soon-to-be-ex-wife Kate Gosselin is for him to be there for visitation with the kids.

Hopefully Gosselin has been fully schooled in the proper handling and storing of a weapon.

ttp://www.examiner.com/x-12100-Jon-and-Kate-Plus-8-Examiner~y2009m12d16-Everybody-run-Jon-Gosselins-got-a-gun

[Justice4all]

http://www.radarmagazine.com/exclusives/2009/12/photos-watch-out-everyone-jon-gosselin-has-gun


I see a fence. I see Jon facing a fence. I see woods beyond the fence. I see a gun in Jon's hands. What I do not see is a target, or any type of backing behind a target to keep the bullets from traveling more than 15 feet beyond the target. Do you, Daniel? It appears that he is firing OVER a fence and INTO the woods, unobstructed.

How can he be fired over the fence when he's not even facing the fence? he's shooting down the fence line. looks like he's firing towards the barn.

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/35841

[Justice4all]

EXCLUSIVE: Jon Gosselin To Face Former Lawyer In Court

UPDATE: Jon Gosselin has arrived at the courthouse.
Jon Gosselin continues his free fall into real reality.
The TV dad is expected in a Maryland court on Thursday morning to face a former attorney who is suing him for non-payment.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-jon-gosselin-face-former-lawyer-court

[Mnchkin426]

EXCLUSIVE: Jon Gosselin To Face Former Lawyer In Court




http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-jon-gosselin-face-former-lawyer-court

Wonder which lawyer? I'm assuming that, since it is in Maryland, it's the one who appeared for him in the injunction hearing. Anyone know for sure? Also, found it interesting that the RO article said Jon was supposed to have been at that hearing.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Wonder which lawyer? I'm assuming that, since it is in Maryland, it's the one who appeared for him in the injunction hearing. Anyone know for sure? Also, found it interesting that the RO article said Jon was supposed to have been at that hearing.

JMO

that's what i'm thinking....but not sure.
hopefully they can get it taken care of so the divorce can become final before the first of the year.

[Mnchkin426]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-gosselin-divorce-will-be-finalized-within-24-hours-judge-orders-jon-no

Wow! Guess Heller, once again, doesn't know what he's talking about.

JMO

[Debbie_]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...-orders-jon-no So glad the gun issue was addressed and he abides by that order

[Mnchkin426]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...-orders-jon-no So glad the gun issue was addressed and he abides by that order

I totally agree!

JMO

[Shells2]

I wouldn't place any bets on his being able to keep his children safe. So far, his track record pretty much sucks.

How has his track record demonstrated that he can't keep his children safe??

My goodness, he is definitely lacking in the "relationship" skills with a multitude of women, but I have never seen him put his children in danger.

To be honest, when I watched the show, waaaaaaay back before all this started, I always thought Jon was nicer to the kids and more caring than Kate.

[Mnchkin426]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/hailey-glassman-kisses-new-guy-public-jon-gosselin-fuming

[Justice4all]

EXCLUSIVE: Gosselin Divorce Will Be Finalized Within 24 Hours; Judge Orders Jon: No Guns At House


And in another reality check, for the one-time Reality TV dad, Jon was ordered not to bring any firearm onto the marital property. A Montgomery County, PA judge entered that order today as Jon showed up in court to square off against a former lawyer who is suing him for non-payment.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-gosselin-divorce-will-be-finalized-within-24-hours-judge-orders-jon-no

[Justice4all]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/hailey-glassman-kisses-new-guy-public-jon-gosselin-fuming

wow she moved on quick.

[Justice4all]

Kate must have been awarded the house and property because I don't see how a Judge can tell someone they can tell someone they can't bring a gun on their own property. MOO


Good for Kate....:thumbup:

[Mnchkin426]

I'm a bit confused. Since there is a Montgomery County in both PA and MD, is today's hearing actually in PA? IIRC, his original divorce attorney, Meyers, was wanting to be paid for all his services a while back. Think the deal was he would be paid once the property settlement was finalized. Wonder if this is actually what is going on in court and is happening in PA. Also, would explain the judge admonishing Jon about the gun....would be the PA judge. Guess it could be the Maryland attorney from the injunction hearing, though. Any thoughts?

JMO

[Justice4all]

I'm a bit confused. Since there is a Montgomery County in both PA and MD, is today's hearing actually in PA? IIRC, his original divorce attorney, Meyers, was wanting to be paid for all his services a while back. Think the deal was he would be paid once the property settlement was finalized. Wonder if this is actually what is going on in court and is happening in PA. Also, would explain the judge admonishing Jon about the gun....would be the PA judge. Guess it could be the Maryland attorney from the injunction hearing, though. Any thoughts?

JMO

I'm totally confused to be honest. I guess we'll have to wait for more details.

[Mnchkin426]

I'm totally confused to be honest. I guess we'll have to wait for more details.

Glad I'm not the only confused one. LOL

JMO

[Justice4all]

Glad I'm not the only confused one. LOL

JMO

and to add to the strangeness I can't find anymore articles talking about what happen today. Hopefully we'll find out some details.

[daniel green]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...-orders-jon-no So glad the gun issue was addressed and he abides by that order

And in another reality check, for the one-time Reality TV dad, Jon was ordered not to bring any firearm onto the marital property. A Montgomery County, PA judge entered that order today as Jon showed up in court to square off against a former lawyer who is suing him for non-payment.

GOOD. Very good!

[daniel green]

http://www.radarmagazine.com/exclusives/2009/12/photos-watch-out-everyone-jon-gosselin-has-gun


I see a fence. I see Jon facing a fence. I see woods beyond the fence. I see a gun in Jon's hands. What I do not see is a target, or any type of backing behind a target to keep the bullets from traveling more than 15 feet beyond the target. Do you, Daniel? It appears that he is firing OVER a fence and INTO the woods, unobstructed.

I believe you are quite correct, Poppy. It does appear that he was firing OVER a fence and INTO the woods, unobstructed. You know, an illegal and dangerous practice.

[Mnchkin426]

GOOD. Very good!

Certainly hope that court order can be enforced.

JMO

[Justice4all]

I believe you are quite correct, Poppy. It does appear that he was firing OVER a fence and INTO the woods, unobstructed. You know, an illegal and dangerous practice.

If it were illegal wouldn't he have been arrested?

[Justice4all]

Certainly hope that court order can be enforced.

JMO

Why wouldn't it be enforced?

[daniel green]

Wonder which lawyer? I'm assuming that, since it is in Maryland, it's the one who appeared for him in the injunction hearing. Anyone know for sure? Also, found it interesting that the RO article said Jon was supposed to have been at that hearing.

JMO

UPDATE: Jon Gosselin has arrived at the courthouse.

Jon Gosselin continues his free fall into real reality. The TV dad is expected in a Maryland court on Thursday morning to face a former attorney who is suing him for non-payment. Gosselin will most likely not find an ally in the judge when he enters the Pennsylvania County courtroom at 9 a.m.: he was a no-show for his last court date despite a mandate to appear.

This is a lawsuit from Jon ex divorce lawyer whose name I cannot remember to get payment from Jon.

[daniel green]

Certainly hope that court order can be enforced.

JMO

No doubt it can be.

It was expedited, too. Good to see!

[daniel green]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-gosselin-divorce-will-be-finalized-within-24-hours-judge-orders-jon-no

Wow! Guess Heller, once again, doesn't know what he's talking about.

JMO

Bless his heart, always the last to know.

[daniel green]

snipped Also, would explain the judge admonishing Jon about the gun....would be the PA judge. Guess it could be the Maryland attorney from the injunction hearing, though. Any thoughts?

JMO

I don't think that the Judge admonished Jon. There was a court order filed today about Jon not bringing a gun to the marital property--but that could have been done in another court room by another judge.

[daniel green]

I'm thinking it's PA since the judge indicated no guns on the "marital" property. Indicates to me that there are other people eually uncomfortable with Jon's sudden interest in target practice with a serious weapon. I'm not so foolish as to think Jon couldn't carry a concealed weapon, but it's good to know he's being watched.

I'm thinking Jon's going to be traipsing over well-beaten paths to all kinds of courtrooms before the dust settles.

Jon does NOT look good. He looks...greasy...creepy. He's not in a good place. I have genuine concerns about his well-being. I worry just how his anger and hate might manifest. I just do.

MHO

Ditto every word, Spyder.

[Justice4all]

I don't think that the Judge admonished Jon. There was a court order filed today about Jon not bringing a gun to the marital property--but that could have been done in another court room by another judge.

Does the property still belong to Jon and Kate? I kind of feel like Kate will get the property. She might can make it where Jon can't come on the property. I kind of feel like that would be best so they can all get on with their lives...

Kate and the kids can enjoy their home and then Jon can come get the children for his weekends. Just like most divorced parents do.


JMHO

[daniel green]

Just one day after Jon Gosselin popped off a .38 on his Pennsylvania property, a judge has already ordered him to holster the weapon. The PA judge presiding over the Gosselins' divorce laid down the law today, prohibiting Jon from packing heat anywhere near the home he used to happily share with Kate "Bout not to be a Gosselin" Gosselin.



Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/17/jon-gosselin-shot-down-in-court-over-gun-play/#ixzz0ZyQAhNOB


The Judge handling the divorce in PA was the one to issue the Order about not bringing a gun to the house.

[Mnchkin426]

Why wouldn't it be enforced?

Of course it would be enforced if at all possible. For example, a restraining order against someone who threatens an individual is often not adequate protection because it can be difficult to guard that person constantly.

JMO

[daniel green]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/12/glenn-beck-kate-gosselin-visit-jay-leno-on-friday.html

Kate will appear on the Jay Leno show tomorrow night.

[Mnchkin426]

I don't think that the Judge admonished Jon. There was a court order filed today about Jon not bringing a gun to the marital property--but that could have been done in another court room by another judge.

Poor choice of words, I guess. Was referring to the court order as an admonishment.

JMO

[daniel green]

As for Jon, it appears that fame really is fleeting -- he represented himself in court Thursday.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-gosselin-divorce-will-be-finalized-within-24-hours-judge-orders-jon-no

He represented himself today??????

[daniel green]

Poor choice of words, I guess. Was referring to the court order as an admonishment.

JMO

My bad--just trying to give it the proper legal definition. I am always on a bus driver's holiday it appears. :blushing:

[Mnchkin426]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/exclusive-gosselin-divorce-will-be-finalized-within-24-hours-judge-orders-jon-no

He represented himself today??????

Well, Heller couldn't represent him in either state and it looks like he can't afford another attorney. Doubt too many would take him on as a client anyway with his questionable financial status.

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

My bad--just trying to give it the proper legal definition. I am always on a bus driver's holiday it appears. :blushing:

That's okay...you're right....I was just being a bit glib.

JMO

[daniel green]

Well, Heller couldn't represent him in either state and it looks like he can't afford another attorney. Doubt too many would take him on as a client anyway with his questionable financial status.

JMO

You're right. Gonna be tough finding legal representation for free.

[daniel green]

:lol: Too funny, dani! :lol:

He didn't know about the Arbitrator having denied the continuance back when he was on LKL, he didn't have the decision yesterday and didn't know the divorce would be final within 24 hrs. Do you suppose he is not on the "needs to know" dist list? :blink:

[Mnchkin426]

He didn't know about the Arbitrator having denied the continuance back when he was on LKL, he didn't have the decision yesterday and didn't know the divorce would be final within 24 hrs. Do you suppose he is not on the "needs to know" dist list? :blink:

Doubt it would matter if Heller was "in the know." He'd just put his own spin on whatever it was.

JMO

[Justice4all]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/12/glenn-beck-kate-gosselin-visit-jay-leno-on-friday.html

Kate will appear on the Jay Leno show tomorrow night.

WOW I didn't even know Jay Leno had a show..I thought it was canceled due to no viewers. I'll have to watch it. Thanks for the heads up.

[birdwatch]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/12/glenn-beck-kate-gosselin-visit-jay-leno-on-friday.html

Kate will appear on the Jay Leno show tomorrow night. Along with Glenn Beck. yuck. I do wonder what the 10-10 Kate is doing with Jay will be about. Any ideas?

But they are up against 20/20 and Chris Cuomo is co-anchoring so I'll probably just have to wait and see what y'all have to say about the Leno show.

[Justice4all]

Well, Heller couldn't represent him in either state and it looks like he can't afford another attorney. Doubt too many would take him on as a client anyway with his questionable financial status.

JMO

ITA...with no job and no money who in their right mind would want him as a client.


jmho

[Justice4all]

Along with Glenn Beck. yuck. I do wonder what the 10-10 Kate is doing with Jay will be about. Any ideas?

But they are up against 20/20 and Chris Cuomo is co-anchoring so I'll probably just have to wait and see what y'all have to say about the Leno show.

IMO Glenn and kate are like two peas in a pod..

[daniel green]

Jon was representing himself with no lawyer present except with for his ex one, who of course doesn't want to represent him because he owes him money. The story gets much more interesting but still as confusing, please keep reading. According to Radaronline, as Jon is facing the Judge, in walks Kate's Lawyer Momjian and he lays down the law. Demanding that Jon be prohibited from bringing a firearm onto the marital property. The Judge agrees and Jon is minus a gun. Jon was photographed just yesterday firing off a hand gun at the children's mansion. The law worked quickly in this situation. Kids and guns are just not a mix and according to some, Jon is just barely 16. Jon himself, has said he thinks he has reverted to the age of 23. His chronically correct age according to TLC is 32.

With even more of a twist, the Judge announces that Kate and Jon will be divorced within 24 hours. The arbitrators decision was released yesterday. So Jon is now minus a handgun and plus a divorce. No nursery rhyme type comments have been released from Mark J. Heller, Jon'sNY lawyer who can't actually practice law in any of the States that Jon actually has legal issues in.

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-30363-Canada-Celebrity-Examiner~y2009m12d17-TLC-Jon--Kate-Plus-8--Minus-a-handgun-plus-a-divorce

[Mnchkin426]

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-30363-Canada-Celebrity-Examiner~y2009m12d17-TLC-Jon--Kate-Plus-8--Minus-a-handgun-plus-a-divorce

Guess this answers my question of where the hearing was held....in PA. The lawyer must be Charles Meyers, Jon's original divorce lawyer. Wonder who will be next?

JMO

[Justice4all]

Guess this answers my question of where the hearing was held....in PA. The lawyer must be Charles Meyers, Jon's original divorce lawyer. Wonder who will be next?

JMO

long list I would suspect.

[daniel green]

Despite claims made just yesterday by Jon's lawyer that the soonest we'd see a Gosselin divorce was after the New Year, Kate's attorney confirms to E! News that Christmas is coming early for the estranged reality duo, with a judge expected to sign off on their split within 24 hours. "We're expecting it either today or tomorrow," says attorney Mark Momjian. "We had a proceeding this morning and Mr. Gosselin was present without his lawyer. The law clerk said the decree would be entered today or tomorrow and literally, I'm waiting for it. It could be any minute."

And what about yesterday's claims by Jon's attorney, Mark Heller?
We're not sure if he was being intentionally misleading or unknowingly misinformed (this is talk-first, think-second Team Jon we're talking about, after all), but Kate's crew couldn't resist sounding off. "I don't know what Mr. Heller is talking about—he's mistaken," says Momjian of his rival counsel. "The arbitration award has been entered, and it's final and it's binding. We're ready to make a statement as soon as we hear the decree has been signed."
...
Earlier today, a judge ordered Jon to cease bringing firearms onto the very-soon-to-be former couple's Wernersville, Pa., property after photos surfaced of him taking shot practice in their backyard.


http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b158539_gosselins_divorcing_by_new_year_try.html

[Mnchkin426]

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b158539_gosselins_divorcing_by_new_year_try.html

Will be very interesting to hear what Momjian has to say once everything is signed, sealed and delivered.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Will be very interesting to hear what Momjian has to say once everything is signed, sealed and delivered.

JMO

I really hope Kate gets everything. IMO she's been the major bread winner for the family. and I pray they do not allow the two to continue sharing the home. What will happen when one of them get married or something like that. and I really hope Jon has to pay a butt load in child support and that might give him a reason to get off his lazy behind and get a J-O-B.

JMHO

[Mnchkin426]

I really hope Kate gets everything. IMO she's been the major bread winner for the family. and I pray they do not allow the two to continue sharing the home. What will happen when one of them get married or something like that. and I really hope Jon has to pay a butt load in child support and that might give him a reason to get off his lazy behind and get a J-O-B.

JMHO

I seriously doubt that Kate will get everything although it sounds like she is pleased with whatever was decided. Jon will get what the arbitrator considers to be his fair share of the assets. Judging from Heller's comments yesterday, it sounds like he didn't like how things played out which may mean that Jon didn't either. JMO

[Justice4all]

TMZ's talking about Jon and the gun. Yesterday he was totally legal to shoot his gun but today kate's lawyer talked to the Judge because Jon was shooting the gun only a 100 ft from the house ( seriously is he that stupid? ) and the Judge said no more firearms.

[Justice4all]

I seriously doubt that Kate will get everything although it sounds like she is pleased with whatever was decided. Jon will get what the arbitrator considers to be his fair share of the assets. Judging from Heller's comments yesterday, it sounds like he didn't like how things played out which may mean that Jon didn't either. JMO

I have to wonder if Jon's still talking to Heller. and why wouldn't Jon know what the Arbitrator said? I think he did.


jmho

[Justice4all]

I predict Hailey will get a restraining order against Jon.

[Casecase]

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-30363-Canada-Celebrity-Examiner~y2009m12d17-TLC-Jon--Kate-Plus-8--Minus-a-handgun-plus-a-divorce

That's an interesting note, that Heller is Jon's NY attorney but is not licensed in any of the states Jon has legal issues in. I knew that, but just hearing it put that way makes me think . . . why even have him as a lawyer????

IMO

[Mnchkin426]

TMZ's talking about Jon and the gun. Yesterday he was totally legal to shoot his gun but today kate's lawyer talked to the Judge because Jon was shooting the gun only a 100 ft from the house ( seriously is he that stupid? ) and the Judge said no more firearms.

Sorry....don't understand. How could it be legal to shoot 100 feet from the house yesterday but not today? I assume he was too close to the house yesterday, and so that actually was illegal.....hence the court order saying no more. Did you mean that the actual act of shooting on his property was legal, but he had to be a certain distance from the house?

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

That's an interesting note, that Heller is Jon's NY attorney but is not licensed in any of the states Jon has legal issues in. I knew that, but just hearing it put that way makes me think . . . why even have him as a lawyer????

IMO

Doesn't make much sense, does it? Heller is an entertainment lawyer which may be the reason why Jon hired him originally. Why he holds on to him is anyone's guess.


JMO

[Mnchkin426]

I have to wonder if Jon's still talking to Heller. and why wouldn't Jon know what the Arbitrator said? I think he did.


jmho

Jon should know what was said. My guess is that Heller wanted to see a hard copy so he could try to figure out a way to pick it apart. JMO

[Justice4all]

Sorry....don't understand. How could it be legal to shoot 100 feet from the house yesterday but not today? I assume he was too close to the house yesterday, and so that actually was illegal.....hence the court order saying no more. Did you mean that the actual act of shooting on his property was legal, but he had to be a certain distance from the house?

JMO



Yes it was legal for him to shoot yesterday at the house. ( per TMZ guys ) and Katea lawyer was afraid he was just too close to the house. So the Judge told him no more firearms on the property.


I'm just going by what the guys on TMZ said...I suspect the house now belongs to kate and thats why he can't bring the gun on the property anymore.


MOO

[Justice4all]

You can watch what they said tomorrow
http://www.tmz.com/tmzlive/

[Justice4all]

Jon should know what was said. My guess is that Heller wanted to see a hard copy so he could try to figure out a way to pick it apart. JMO

he can pick till his heart's content but doesn't mean he'll be able to change anything.

[Mnchkin426]

Yes it was legal for him to shoot yesterday at the house. ( per TMZ guys ) and Katea lawyer was afraid he was just too close to the house. So the Judge told him no more firearms on the property.


I'm just going by what the guys on TMZ said...I suspect the house now belongs to kate and thats why he can't bring the gun on the property anymore.


MOO

OK...now I get it. Thanks.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Ummmmmm did Jon buy a new house or just rent a place?

The judge also ordered Gosselin to register his pistol at a new address in Pennsylvania within 90 days.


http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/judge-bars-guns-at-jon-gosselin-house

[Mnchkin426]

You can watch what they said tomorrow
http://www.tmz.com/tmzlive/

Oh, I believe you....was just confused (as usual).

JMO

[Justice4all]

Oh, I believe you....was just confused (as usual).

JMO

Yes I know you believed me BUT I want everyone to know where they can watch it if they would like. It will be at the end ( last ten minutes )

[Mnchkin426]

Ummmmmm did Jon buy a new house or just rent a place?




http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/judge-bars-guns-at-jon-gosselin-house

Maybe the gun was registered at the old house and, now that the house has been sold, there needs to be a new address fir the registration. Just a thought. JMO

[Mnchkin426]

Yes I know you believed me BUT I want everyone to know where they can watch it if they would like. It will be at the end ( last ten minutes )

Dont know about anyone else, but I find TMZ Live pretty painful to watch. Glad you did the watching rather than me. LOL

JMO

[Casecase]

Maybe the gun was registered at the old house and, now that the house has been sold, there needs to be a new address fir the registration. Just a thought. JMO

Or he has it registered at the current house but since he's not allowed to have it there anymore, it needs to be registered somewhere else?


IMO

[Mnchkin426]

Or he has it registered at the current house but since he's not allowed to have it there anymore, it needs to be registered somewhere else?


IMO

Good point!

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

Or he has it registered at the current house but since he's not allowed to have it there anymore, it needs to be registered somewhere else?


IMO

Good point!

ETA: IMO, it is beginning to look like Kate might be the sole owner of the house.

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

Or he has it registered at the current house but since he's not allowed to have it there anymore, it needs to be registered somewhere else?


IMO

Good point!

IMO, it is beginning to look like Kate might be the sole owner of the house.

JMO

[daniel green]

snipped Judging from Heller's comments yesterday, it sounds like he didn't like how things played out which may mean that Jon didn't either. JMO

True. Or that Heller had not spoken to Jon.

[daniel green]

That's an interesting note, that Heller is Jon's NY attorney but is not licensed in any of the states Jon has legal issues in. I knew that, but just hearing it put that way makes me think . . . why even have him as a lawyer????

IMO

It never made any sense whatsover, Case.

[Mnchkin426]

Sorry for the duplicate posts.....computer messing up. Grrr!

[Mnchkin426]

True. Or that Heller had not spoken to Jon.

True. Might be the best thing for Jon if the Hellers have moved out of his life.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Maybe the gun was registered at the old house and, now that the house has been sold, there needs to be a new address fir the registration. Just a thought. JMO

Oh you might be right. but why register it at the new house when he can't even bring the gun on the property? :confused:

[Justice4all]

Dont know about anyone else, but I find TMZ Live pretty painful to watch. Glad you did the watching rather than me. LOL

JMO

Yesterday was so painful I had to take two tylenol and then finally turned it off LOL

[Justice4all]

Good point!

ETA: IMO, it is beginning to look like Kate might be the sole owner of the house.

JMO

Hello didn't someone name Justice4all say that? LMBO

[Justice4all]

It never made any sense whatsover, Case.

Well I'll be honest so far nothing Jon's done in the past years has made sense to me.

[Lavinya]

Oh, for heavens sakes.

No dad of 8 young kids needs a hand-gun, and, most especially, doesn't need to be shooting it at the edge of his property.

As to the "target practice" and "hunting" allegations you have made, don't have a thing to do with the facts.

Shooting a hand-gun in the direction of trees inside the city limits is, ipso facto, unsafe.

ITA! It's not like he's having to stock the larder so the kids can eat. I have to say I got a sick feeling when I saw that Jon had a pistol. He's not exactly Stable Abel. :scared:

[Justice4all]

Or he has it registered at the current house but since he's not allowed to have it there anymore, it needs to be registered somewhere else?


IMO

That's what i'm thinking. Why in the world would a Judge order him to register a gun at an address he'e not allow to keep it at....

[Mnchkin426]

Hello didn't someone name Justice4all say that? LMBO
Yep...you did. Took me a little longer to come to that possible conclusion. Now we have to wait and see if we are right.

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

Oh you might be right. but why register it at the new house when he can't even bring the gun on the property? :confused:

Wasn't suggesting the new house....just a new address in PA. Think Jon will have to come up with someplace there. Or, could he take it to NYC and register it there? Don't know what laws apply.

JMO

[Debbie_]

ITA! It's not like he's having to stock the larder so the kids can eat. I have to say I got a sick feeling when I saw that Jon had a pistol. He's not exactly Stable Abel. :scared:

so did I Lavinya:sad:

[daniel green]

ITA! It's not like he's having to stock the larder so the kids can eat. I have to say I got a sick feeling when I saw that Jon had a pistol. He's not exactly Stable Abel. :scared:

For real, Lavinya. That's it exactly. I got a sick feeling when I saw it, myself. :sad:

Just taking that gun and shooting it at trees for the paps to photograph, in and of itself, is unstable.

Glad to see the court Ordered against his having a gun there, so quickly.

[Justice4all]

Wasn't suggesting the new house....just a new address in PA. Think Jon will have to come up with someplace there. Or, could he take it to NYC and register it there? Don't know what laws apply.

JMO

oh yeah he can take it to NYC to register it...but the article said his new PA address.. Maybe he's rented a place. because he's only been seen in PA since Thanksgiving.
maybe i'm wrong.. maybe i'm right...time will tell.

[daniel green]

Good point!

IMO, it is beginning to look like Kate might be the sole owner of the house.

JMO

Not because the Judge ordered Jon not to have a gun there. A judge can order that during the course of a divorce/custody action, even if Jon were to keep the house.

[daniel green]

...but the article said his new PA address.. snipped.

That is not what the article says.

[Justice4all]

For real, Lavinya. That's it exactly. I got a sick feeling when I saw it, myself. :sad:

Just taking that gun and shooting it at trees for the paps to photograph, in and of itself, is unstable.

Glad to see the court Ordered against his having a gun there, so quickly.

Do you have proof he was shooting the gun at trees? Because I haven't seen that in any of the articles i've read.

[Justice4all]

That is not what the article says.

Correct it says A new PA address....Sorry

Why does it have a A new PA address? Why can't he register in NYC?

[Justice4all]

I suppose all the paparazzi should consider themselves lucky Jon has complete control over that gun, huh? Wait a minute! Has anyone checked the woods for any dead or wounded paps? :confused: :w00t:

Are you suggesting Jon killed someone?

[Justice4all]

Jon Gosselin's Jealous Rage: Real Or Publicity Stunt?


He may have been packing some heat outside of his house on Wednesday, but we really doubt Jon Gosselin is some gun-toting maniac.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/12/jon-gosselins-jealous-rage-real-or-publicity-stunt

[daniel green]

snipped
Poor Kate. What an awful feeling it must have been to know that fruit loop had a gun in his possession, :w00t: Worse yet, that he brought it onto the property to fire it. :chicken:

I know. :sad: Just imagine if we got a sick feeling seeing it, the utter fear she must have felt.

[Justice4all]

because if he is going to carry it in PA then it has to be legally registered in PA. Otherwise, it is considered an unlawful fire arm and could possible result in jail time.

Yes I understand that. I'm just saying if he can't shoot it on his property in PA why would he even bring a gun to PA...Does that make sense? I wonder how many guns he has.

[Justice4all]

I know. :sad: Just imagine if we got a sick feeling seeing it, the utter fear she must have felt.

Was she there when it happen?

[Justice4all]

Sounds like RO doesn't really believe much of what Hailey has to say anymore.

[daniel green]

because if he is going to carry it in PA then it has to be legally registered in PA. Otherwise, it is considered an unlawful fire arm and could possible result in jail time.

G'evening, Poppy.

Well, I just bet it's on account of how an Arbitrator/Judge in PA cannot Order something to be done in another state.

[Clara Harris]

Do you have proof he was shooting the gun at trees? Because I haven't seen that in any of the articles i've read.


When I look at the photos, it seems to me that Jon is shooting upward towards the trees.

[Justice4all]

Daniel I would love for you to show proof Jon was shooting at trees. Or that the children or Kate were even at the house when Jon shot the gun. Right now your post seem kind of slanderous to me. Sorry.

[Lavinya]

I suppose all the paparazzi should consider themselves lucky Jon has complete control over that gun, huh? Wait a minute! Has anyone checked the woods for any dead or wounded paps? :confused: :w00t:

He's not going to shoot any of his good buddies, lol. Who would he pose for? :sneaky:

[Justice4all]

G'evening, Poppy.

Well, I just bet it's on account of how an Arbitrator/Judge in PA cannot Order something to be done in another state.

But the Judge could have ordered him to register the gun at his new house ....why a PA address if he doesn't live at PA. should he keep the gun at a friends house?

[Clara Harris]

Yes it was legal for him to shoot yesterday at the house. ( per TMZ guys ) and Katea lawyer was afraid he was just too close to the house. So the Judge told him no more firearms on the property.


I'm just going by what the guys on TMZ said...I suspect the house now belongs to kate and thats why he can't bring the gun on the property anymore.


MOO

BBM Do you have any proof of that because I haven't seen that in any of the articles that I read?

[Justice4all]

When I look at the photos, it seems to me that Jon is shooting upward towards the trees.

Doesn't look up to me. or in the direction of the trees. His right arm is level with and going the same direction as the fence. He seems to be standing sideways. That's how i shoot.

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/35838

[daniel green]

Daniel I would love for you to show proof Jon was shooting at trees. snipped.

We all have eyes. We have all seen the pictures, forpetesakes.

[daniel green]

But the Judge could have ordered him to register the gun at his new house ....snipped

WHAT new house? :confused:

[Justice4all]

BBM Do you have any proof of that because I haven't seen that in any of the articles that I read?

I put MOO and why would a Judge order someone not to bring a gun on their own property? I can understand a Judge saying it's against the law to shoot a gun but how can a Judge order you not to bring a gun to your own house and put it in a gun safe? Does Jon have a criminal past we don't know about?

[Justice4all]

We all have eyes. We have all seen the pictures, forpetesakes.

Yes ma'am and he was doing nothing that was against the law.

[Mnchkin426]

Not because the Judge ordered Jon not to have a gun there. A judge can order that during the course of a divorce/custody action, even if Jon were to keep the house.

Didn't know that. Would it just be a standard safety measure?

JMO