12/7 thru 12/9 -- George Thomas - VERDICT WATCH

[aproudmom]

Welcome Burned out it is a sickening horrific case and a very emotional case to follow. This one has not been as bad as the first 2 maybe it is just that we know everything that was done to these two kids and it gets easier but until JUSTICE is served and all 4 are put away for life I know I will not be happy. Ican not imagine the pain and outrage the families and friends have lived with all this time. JMO

:cursing:

[aproudmom]

"Under the proof at trial, there is no theory of liability as to Mr. Thomas for the charged offenses, under criminal responsibility, that does not rest on anything other than conjecture, guess, speculation, or a mere possibility," the attorneys wrote. "Moreover, under the proof presented by the state in this case, not even the elements of the lesser included offense of facilitation are met."

http://web.knoxnews.com/pdf/2009/120709carjackmotion.pdf
PDF: Defense motion seeking case be tossed out:mad:

[Breakingnews]

Excellent points, and especially regarding the numerous letters to Cobbins in jail. There may not be DNA or much forensic evidence to connect Thomas, but let's pray the jury from Chattanooga will connect all the dots.

Thomas having the small bullets while at Blue's sealed the deal for me. Why have them if you don't have a gun and why would you still have them on after you've witnessed a carjacking/kidnapping? He was a participant in the murders.

[young hippie]

i read the motion and imoho the judge will not let thomas go he is as guilty as all the other in fact the use of bleach on channon and the burning of chris's body is how there is no dna of thomas's there there was degraded dna and i do believe that is was thomas this is my understanding of the testimony and i would find him guilty

[aubrey04]

I still go back to Coleman's interview where she said George & LeMaricus left with Chris & when they came back they had blood on their clothing.

Page 12

http://www.wbir.com/pdf/vanessa_3_2_09.pdf

Of course the jury won't hear any of this. She also says that G was with Lemaricus & Cobbins when the carjacking went down.

I think the George, Lemaricus & Cobbins were the three people in the SUV & Boyd was in his cousin's car.. the one used to get them to Washington Ridge Apartments. Also, Coleman says Cobbins went into the room w/Channon for 15 minutes or so while G & Lemaricus left w/Chris.. That fits w/my theory too - I think that's when Cobbins orally raped Channon.. when the others went to kill Chris. Boyd might not have ever went inside the Chipman Street house after the carjacking, imo.. he could have been guarding Chris outside.

Of course the jury doesn't hear any of this, but that's one of my theories. He is MUCH more involved than even the prosecutors can say -- probably because they don't have the other defendants statements to back up their allegations... all moo.

George Thomas needs to pay for his involvement in this.

[aproudmom]

i read the motion and imoho the judge will not let thomas go he is as guilty as all the other in fact the use of bleach on channon and the burning of chris's body is how there is no dna of thomas's there there was degraded dna and i do believe that is was thomas this is my understanding of the testimony and i would find him guilty

I pray you are right if not Baum is one crazy Judge to put this guy on the streets. JMO

[aproudmom]

Looks like we will be live soon
http://www.wate.com/global/Category.asp?c=173163

[aproudmom]

I still go back to Coleman's interview where she said George & LeMaricus left with Chris & when they came back they had blood on their clothing.

Page 12

http://www.wbir.com/pdf/vanessa_3_2_09.pdf

Of course the jury won't hear any of this. She also says that G was with Lemaricus & Cobbins when the carjacking went down.

I think the George, Lemaricus & Cobbins were the three people in the SUV & Boyd was in his cousin's car.. the one used to get them to Washington Ridge Apartments. Also, Coleman says Cobbins went into the room w/Channon for 15 minutes or so while G & Lemaricus left w/Chris.. That fits w/my theory too - I think that's when Cobbins orally raped Channon.. when the others went to kill Chris. Boyd might not have ever went inside the Chipman Street house after the carjacking, imo.. he could have been guarding Chris outside.

Of course the jury doesn't hear any of this, but that's one of my theories. He is MUCH more involved than even the prosecutors can say -- probably because they don't have the other defendants statements to back up their allegations... all moo.

George Thomas needs to pay for his involvement in this.

ITA
aub to bad the jury does not get to read or hear that.

[aubrey04]

ITA
aub to bad the jury does not get to read or hear that.

Yup. I know. It is so aggravating to me. He is much more involved than what has been presented to this jury. The prosecution had their hands tied as to how much they could allege w/o the witnesses/statements to police to back it up.

Too bad Coleman wasn't straight with LE. She could have been the one to send Cobbins to death row & send Thomas to prison for life, at the very least.

I hope the Christian & Newsom's are holding up okay and I hope they don't read the comments online. It would be disheartening to read the comments from people claiming the state doesn't have the goods and that he's "going to walk".

:mad:

[aproudmom]

Yup. I know. It is so aggravating to me. He is much more involved than what has been presented to this jury. The prosecution had their hands tied as to how much they could allege w/o the witnesses/statements to police to back it up.

Too bad Coleman wasn't straight with LE. She could have been the one to send Cobbins to death row & send Thomas to prison for life, at the very least.

I hope the Christian & Newsom's are holding up okay and I hope they don't read the comments online. It would be disheartening to read the comments from people claiming the state doesn't have the goods and that he's "going to walk".

:mad:

93% say on WATE blog the judge will not give a acquittal be sure and vote:smile:

[aubrey04]

93% say on WATE blog the judge will not give a acquittal be sure and vote:smile:

I bumped it to 94%

:biggrin:

[aproudmom]

Good Morning everyone

[FindtheLost]

Good Morning everyone

Good Morning. Thanks for the new thread.

A verdict about 4:30 today would be really nice.

[aubrey04]

Thank you for the new thread, APM and Good Morning to you. :wub:

ETA ~ Court in session.

[young hippie]

i do not thhink that the judge will let thomas walk the judge knows he is guilty but the jury will say so

[aproudmom]

Good Morning. Thanks for the new thread.

A verdict about 4:30 today would be really nice.

That would be awesome and make sure to add a Guilty Verdict

[jewel6]

I am here for a little while. :beer:

[young hippie]

i do not thhink that the judge will let thomas walk the judge knows he is guilty but the jury will say so
watching the judge now and with what he is saying is saying to me that he will not let thomas walk he will give it to the jury and the jury will say guilty

[Roux]

You go Mr. Price! Morning all.

[aproudmom]

So they filed another motion this morning FGS delay delay delay

hanamkim: Defense filed a new motion this morning about extra jury instructions that's what the court is arguing about right now #cntrial

[jewel6]

Aw com on G, If your not guilty your gonna have to take stand. jmo

[cog1]

Good Morning Everyone,
I'm here and I'm sure I missed a lot.

[young hippie]

the jury will infer that thomas is guilty of all crimes thomas is charged with :thumbup:

[FindtheLost]

Did Mr. Price just say that since not reporting is not a crime?

What is the law on this?

[jewel6]

Uh oh ! Judge wants to know about murder charge.:huh:

[FindtheLost]

Uh oh ! Judge wants to know about murder charge.:huh:

I'm hoping the judge is just listening so that George can't say his trial wasn't fair. I think he will let the jury decide.

[young hippie]

degraded dna could you infer or would you imply

i think that it is infer

[aproudmom]

omg he is thinking to long I am scared

[jewel6]

omg he is thinking to long I am scared

Me too!!! :sad: jmo

[young hippie]

what did he say

[young hippie]

what did he say

i do not understand what he is saying

i get it the judge believes that the degraded dna is thomas so that is what he is doing you go judge hope i am right

[aproudmom]

I'm hoping the judge is just listening so that George can't say his trial wasn't fair. I think he will let the jury decide.

OMG I was so scared I could not breathe there for a minute

[aproudmom]

Lurch is not getting on the stand. Not a shocker to me

[young hippie]

he will not take the stand because he knows that he would have to tell the truth and he can not lie so he just will be like the rest of the gang and not say anything what a little oh never mind what does reserve judgement under the law

[young hippie]

He is saying that he is taking it under advisement, and allow the case to conclude and allowing the jury to decide..It depends on what the jury decides, then he can come back and alter the verdict..eg..If they say 1st degree..he could change it to criminal negligent homicide..just speculating..There are so many charges..they could find many guilty verdicts...but not first degree..which would send him to prison for a very long time...

In a nutshell, he is covering "Assets" for possible appellate reasons..

LMS:laugh:

thanks so much for this i do believe that he is guilty for murder 1 the degraded dna say it all to me and i do think that the jury will feel the same :thumbup:

[aproudmom]

No crying family members or mental doctors or school teachers huh ok well Def. rest

lol he is gripping about a pic in the paper

[aubrey04]

Lurch is not getting on the stand. Not a shocker to me

Surprised he could even muster the energy to talk. Of course, no shocker @ all. He'd get sliced & diced by Fitz.

[jakee]

Good morning all,

Judge is funny, what picture is he talking about of himself?

[young hippie]

thomas dressed all in white does he think that that makes him look innocent NOT the jury will infer that the reason no dna from thomas is because of the bleach and burning and it will be guilty m1:thumbup:

[cog1]

Good morning all,

Judge is funny, what picture is he talking about of himself?

I was wondering if it was the pic that proudmom posted that looked like Grinch? That was too funny!! :biggrin:

[jakee]

I was wondering if it was the pic that proudmom posted that looked like Grinch? That was too funny!! :biggrin:

:laugh: Oh I think I did see that one! hehehe

[young hippie]

thanks lyndawithaY for that info maybe one day i could use that :laugh:


i do believe that this judge knows in his lawyer/judge brain that thomas is guilty of m1 and all the other charges and do believe that the jury will come back with guilty all the way around :thumbup:

[aproudmom]

thomas dressed all in white does he think that that makes him look innocent NOT the jury will infer that the reason no dna from thomas is because of the bleach and burning and it will be guilty m1:thumbup:

I think it is the same shirt he had on day 1

[aproudmom]

I was wondering if it was the pic that proudmom posted that looked like Grinch? That was too funny!! :biggrin:

I wondered if that was the one if not it was funny anyway. IIRC I found it on Knox.new

[cog1]

I wondered if that was the one if not it was funny anyway. IIRC I found it on Knox.new

It sure was funny and I could certainly see why he would have that reaction if in print. LOL

I don't recall who the judge was asking about the pic's, what news agency they were from but I'm sure it will be in the news today!

Ready for this show to get on and hoping for the right verdict. I agree with others that GT is involved in this up to his eye balls and too bad all that we know wasn't allowed in his trial! :sneaky:

[young hippie]

i think if you are living in the great USA and want a fair trial then all the evidence needs to be brought in all of it no matter what if you are totally innocent then take the stand if you are guilty then dont take the stand maybe i am wrong and should never be on a jury


i am reading over on wate and it seems that some believe that the judge is the 13th juror and he could acquit Thomas i do not think that will happen i do think thomas is guilty of all the charges but i think if the jury comes back with guilty of m1 the judge will give something less than that jmo

[aproudmom]

http://www.knoxnews.com/photos/galleries/2009/dec/04/george-thomas-trial---friday-dec-4-2009/16383/
:laugh: I love the picture lol

[aubrey04]

YVW hippie.....I also believe Thomas was not only there..but did participate too.....The problems is that so much of the information we heard in the other cases and what other co-defendents said was NOT ALLOWED in this trial...That to me is unfair when trying to get to the truth of the matter...one reason severing the cases benefits the defendent..

LMS:laugh:


Your statement is so true about how much the defendant benefits from getting tried alone. I have no doubt all the perps in this case would be hanging on death row, including Eric Boyd.. if they were all tried together.

I am really, really, really worried about the verdict. I can't imagine he'd get an outright acquittal, but I do worry that he will get convictions only on the lesser counts & be free again in society eventually.

I wonder if the feds will charge him, if that happens. I sure hope so.

[cog1]

http://www.knoxnews.com/photos/galleries/2009/dec/04/george-thomas-trial---friday-dec-4-2009/16383/
:laugh: I love the picture lol

Thats the one proud! And, he referred to himself as looking tired! LOL

[cog1]

Baum is back!! Here we go!!

[aproudmom]

OMG 67 pages:closedeyes:

[kellann62]

http://www.knoxnews.com/photos/galleries/2009/dec/04/george-thomas-trial---friday-dec-4-2009/16383/
:laugh: I love the picture lol

That's the Bum we all know and love!!:laugh::lol:

Kel

[aproudmom]

i think if you are living in the great USA and want a fair trial then all the evidence needs to be brought in all of it no matter what if you are totally innocent then take the stand if you are guilty then dont take the stand maybe i am wrong and should never be on a jury


i am reading over on wate and it seems that some believe that the judge is the 13th juror and he could acquit Thomas i do not think that will happen i do think thomas is guilty of all the charges but i think if the jury comes back with guilty of m1 the judge will give something less than that jmo
bbm
I was reading that also over there and hate to say it you could be right even though I think he played a part in the killing of CN. VC said he had blood on him when he came back to the house with LD but this jury does not know that.

[jewel6]

Im glad they give them a copy of that when the deliberate. im already lost.:scared: jmo

[young hippie]

:lol: By the sounds of this hippie..I dont think you should ever be a juror..however, I am certain your feelings are shared by many people..so you are not alone..

I would likely make a good juror as I understand much of the forensics and science of the evidence..and have a fair understanding of the laws..and could likely come to a reasonable conclusion..And in THIS case I think the "Absence of Evidence does NOT MEAN there is evidence of Absence"..as quoted from Jackson at Phil Spector's trial..LMS:laugh:

i remember when that was said and i do agree with it but for some reason i do think if you have not did anything wrong and have told the truth then you should not be scared to get on the stand and tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth that is just me and like i said maybe i should never be on a jury

[jewel6]

bbm
I was reading that also over there and hate to say it you could be right even though I think he played a part in the killing of CN. VC said he had blood on him when he came back to the house with LD but this jury does not know that.

Yea, wouldnt you hate to be a juror and find him not guilty and you here about the blood stain on his shirt.

[cog1]

What just happened??? OMG

[DeeJay]

A bailif passed out? :scared: omg!

[cog1]

Whoops...somebody fainted..from the Defendents side of the court..Yikes never saw so many move so fast...Yikes

LMS:rolleyes:

Lawd have mercy! I was so afraid that Gary had lept over the wall! :scared:

[aproudmom]

That's the Bum we all know and love!!:laugh::lol:

Kel

yep that is him and he did not like his cute Grinch picture in the Saturday paper I guess


:scared:was that Jamie S

[jewel6]

omg what happened???? I missed it.

[cog1]

On Wate, they are saying Jamie Sutterfield passed out?

Is that true?

[DeeJay]

Whoops...somebody fainted..from the Defendents side of the court..Yikes never saw so many move so fast...Yikes

LMS:rolleyes:

Folks just seem to pass out in that courtroom. :blushing:

[Search4U]

lawd have mercy! I was so afraid that gary had lept over the wall! :scared:

me too!!
.................

[cog1]

WATE: Yes, it appears it was Jamie Satterfield.

[cog1]

me too!!
.................

I need to keep my screen up so I can catch what is going on!

I minimize it then all I hear is the ruckous! Whew! Scared me for sure!

[young hippie]

I do hope the jurors have underlined what the judge just went thru...He was party to this crime..as he is just as responsible for the acts of another....!!!!

LMS:w00t:

:w00t: you go girl i do believe he will be found GUILTY

[DeeJay]

wbirymartinez: Jaime Satterfield with the News Sentinel briefly passed out, but appears to be alright #cntrial

She was late getting on twitter this morning. She's only been there a very short time when this happened.
Maybe she wasn't feeling well today. :shrug:

[aproudmom]

Whoops...somebody fainted..from the Defendents side of the court..Yikes never saw so many move so fast...Yikes

LMS:rolleyes:

Looked like jamiescoop TK took her water
http://twitter.com/jamiescoop

[young hippie]

wbirymartinez: Jaime Satterfield with the News Sentinel briefly passed out, but appears to be alright #cntrial

She was late getting on twitter this morning. She's only been there a very short time when this happened.
Maybe she wasn't feeling well today. :shrug:

is she pregnant :ohmy:

[young hippie]

have to run out for a while please if you can and you always do take good notes thanks :thumbup:

[DeeJay]

Lawd have mercy! I was so afraid that Gary had lept over the wall! :scared:

LOL! We're so quick to blame Gary! poor Gary.

We thought that when Karen Manning fainted during the ME's testimony in davidson's trial. :laugh:

[Search4U]

That would be my first question...LOL....Or..is she hypoglycemic..forgot to eat breakfast.....I hope she will be alright tho..that blog sure needs her input..

LMS:ohmy:

I think she is beyond child bearing years???? Maybe someone else knows.

[DeeJay]

is she pregnant :ohmy:

OH my....I don't think so. I think she's beyond that. She appears to be beyond those years.

[cog1]

LOL! We're so quick to blame Gary! poor Gary.

We thought that when Karen Manning fainted during the ME's testimony in davidson's trial. :laugh:

When I opened the screen I see GT standing up and looking back so it was my first thought. LOL

I did wonder what ran thru his pea brain at the thought of someone coming after him? Was he scared?

[cog1]

I think she is beyond child bearing years???? Maybe someone else knows.

I agree with you. Could just be a bug. Tis winter cold/flu season and lawd knows there is a lot of coughing in the courtroom.

[jewel6]

I heard the commotion. My first thought was G was trying t escape. When i got the screen up all he balifs were moving toward george. jmo :scared:

[DeeJay]

I don't think the judge would over rule the jury's verdict if they find him guilty of murder.

The judge over ruling would face the wrath of Gary. :biggrin:

Remember how Gary blasted the def in davidson? WOW! I'm surprised those def attorneys can show their faces, after Gary blasted them in the media.

[cog1]

http://www.volunteertv.com/home/headlines/78677257.html

Judge Baumgartner says this case is different that the previous trials for Letalvis Cobbins and Lemaricus Davidson because of the lack of any forensic evidence linking Thomas to the crimes.

However, the judge said there's no question Thomas was present at the start of this, and he knew what was going on at least in terms of a planned carjacking, and was aware of events as they unfolded, at least to some extent.
The big question, Baum
gartner said, is whether or not Thomas participated in helping the others in this "criminal enterprise."

The prosecution argued the evidence infers Thomas guilty. While failure to report a crime isn't criminal, prosecutors said, you can draw an inference of guilt from it. The prosecution also said Thomas saw the couple, blindfolded and bound, being brought into the Chipman Street and later saw Chris Newsom being led out. Prosecutors said based Thomas knowledge of the planned carjacking, it's reasonably foreseeable someone could be taken with the car. They also said Thomas' staying at the house showed he intended to participate, and then fled to Kentucky.

The defense argued there's no evidence Thomas actively encouraged the crimes or joined in them. Defense Attorney Thomas Dillard also said the prosecution can't prove Thomas was present during the time frame on Sunday when the medical examiner testified Channon Christian died. Dillard said just seeing the couple being brought into the Chipman Street house isn't enough for criminal responsibility.

[DeeJay]

When I opened the screen I see GT standing up and looking back so it was my first thought. LOL

I did wonder what ran thru his pea brain at the thought of someone coming after him? Was he scared?

I only saw a bailif leaning on the back of the bench in front of him and thought it was that man that had passed out.

Oh, GT is scared of Gary and anyone else. GT is just a chicken chit. All of the thugs are, when not with the rest of the group.

[aproudmom]

wbirymartinez: Jaime Satterfield with the News Sentinel briefly passed out, but appears to be alright #cntrial

She was late getting on twitter this morning. She's only been there a very short time when this happened.
Maybe she wasn't feeling well today. :shrug:

I think she fell asleep and dropped her computer...J/K no I can only imagine the time these lawyers and reporters put into this case lack of sleep, not eating well, could make any one sick. I see she has not tweeted in 40 minutes poor thing I am sure that was embarrassing.

[DeeJay]

I do hope the jurors have underlined what the judge just went thru...He was party to this crime..as he is just as responsible for the acts of another....!!!!

LMS:w00t:

"The act of one, is the act of all. (Nevada legalese.)

[DeeJay]

I think she fell asleep and dropped her computer...J/K no I can only imagine the time these lawyers and reporters put into this case lack of sleep, not eating well, could make any one sick. I see she has not tweeted in 40 minutes poor thing I am sure that was embarrassing.

She'll likely tell us on her report at knoxnews.

[aproudmom]

I don't think the judge would over rule the jury's verdict if they find him guilty of murder.

The judge over ruling would face the wrath of Gary. :biggrin:

Remember how Gary blasted the def in davidson? WOW! I'm surprised those def attorneys can show their faces, after Gary blasted them in the media.

bbm

:scared:The Judge would have to go into hiding if he did that:biggrin:

[Search4U]

Did you all lose your sound?

[DeeJay]

There is a huge difference between walking into a scene like this and not reacting...such as Daphne Sutton did..than being involved from the beginning of the planning of jacking thru to the murder of each of them to the fleeing the state along with all the perpretators of the crime ( even IF he did nothing that would leave forensics)....Thus no charges were ever laid against any of those others..Daphne, etc...

Having said all that tho...I DO wholeheartedly believe Thomas did DO things..such as executing Chris at the RR tracks and covering up the evidence at the house..ala..hiding Channon's body...

LMS:laugh:

Here's the thing, the way I view it....GT was WITH all of them from beginning to end.

Therefore equally guilty as ALL of them.

[aproudmom]

There is a huge difference between walking into a scene like this and not reacting...such as Daphne Sutton did..than being involved from the beginning of the planning of jacking thru to the murder of each of them to the fleeing the state along with all the perpretators of the crime ( even IF he did nothing that would leave forensics)....Thus no charges were ever laid against any of those others..Daphne, etc...

Having said all that tho...I DO wholeheartedly believe Thomas did DO things..such as executing Chris at the RR tracks and covering up the evidence at the house..ala..hiding Channon's body...
LMS:laugh:

bbm

ITA
And Knowhatyamean LMS:smile:

[DeeJay]

Someone else @ knoxnews had taken over for Jamie.
I HOPE she is OKAY.

knoxnews: Torture-slaying trial, Day 6: Judge will allow jury to decide Thomas' fate #cntrial http://bit.ly/7J80tf ^JL
8 minutes ago from Publish2

[young hippie]

wow i went to home depot to buy some tile and come back and the judge still reading :blink:

[aproudmom]

Does anyone know how far he is in the instructions? TIA and I am sure they will take lunch after he is done. I am sure I could do a few dishes and not miss anything.:unsure:

[young hippie]

could someone please explain why the judge did not allow what the others said durning their trials i thought is should have been brought in also i still do do not understand why they were not all tried together they did the crimes together just like good ole homeboys will do

[DeeJay]

I read somewhere that there is 67 pages of instructions...thats not necessarily double spaced paragraphs either...LOL We are getting close to the end tho..

LMS:laugh:

I'm sure they are double spaced. All legal papers I've seen on the internet are double spaced.

[cog1]

I only saw a bailif leaning on the back of the bench in front of him and thought it was that man that had passed out.

Oh, GT is scared of Gary and anyone else. GT is just a chicken chit. All of the thugs are, when not with the rest of the group.

Yeah, DeeJay you've got that right! A big :chicken: !!

[cog1]

Does anyone know how far he is in the instructions? TIA and I am sure they will take lunch after he is done. I am sure I could do a few dishes and not miss anything.:unsure:

I have a sink full can you skip on over and wash mine up?? :scared: :tonguewag:

[DeeJay]

VERDICT FORMS AND JURY CHARGE
http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp?S=11632228

[kellann62]

Someone else @ knoxnews had taken over for Jamie.
I HOPE she is OKAY.

knoxnews: Torture-slaying trial, Day 6: Judge will allow jury to decide Thomas' fate #cntrial http://bit.ly/7J80tf ^JL
8 minutes ago from Publish2

She must have a bug. She has seen and heard every single gruesome detail so I don't think she would pass out at this point. I have a feeling it will take this jury some time to decide.

Kel

[young hippie]

one hour per day of testimony so lets see 5 days 5 hours GUILTY might be off on my time line

[DeeJay]

I think they could have tried cobbins & davidson together & Thomas & VC together.

[young hippie]

I will attempt to explain what you asked.

First trying them all together..would be a nightmare..as they would all be pointing fingers at each other..muddingup all the evidence..confusing a jury...

Then not allowing other perp's statements in is because they cannot force them to testify for one, and the defendent then cant cross examine them as to their statements...Again...as usual Defendents are afforded all the justice and fairness in the world..unlike any of the victims...

I hope I didnt broad brush that explanation to thinly...:blushing:

LMS

but what about the police interviews why were they not brought in and know i do not think you brushed over this you have been very helpful to some one who is not an attorney or should be on a jury (not being a smart butt either :tonguewag: )

[DeeJay]

Yeah, DeeJay you've got that right! A big :chicken: !!

Even big ringleader, davidson, didn't look so big during his trial. If he's as big as he *thinks* he is, he would have testified.

[DeeJay]

Judge is losing his voice.

[DeeJay]

Oh, Jamie's back on twitter. She must be okay.

[cog1]

Even big ringleader, davidson, didn't look so big during his trial. If he's as big as he *thinks* he is, he would have testified.

Yeah, funny how when they are one on one they aren't so big and bad huh?

When the gang is not there for thug back up they hunker down in a corner and hide.

[aproudmom]

Can someone let me know what time they will be back. TIA:wub:

[aubrey04]

but what about the police interviews why were they not brought in and know i do not think you brushed over this you have been very helpful to some one who is not an attorney or should be on a jury (not being a smart butt either :tonguewag: )

As Lynda said - Thomas has the right to defend himself against accusers and in this case... the accusers are also co-defendants who have nothing to gain by testifying in his case and everything to lose..

So that's why their statements can not come in. The defense wouldn't be able to cross-examine the accusers and rebuff their statements to police. It sucks, because if I was a juror - I'd want to know EVERY single thing alleged in this case, but that's the law.

[aubrey04]

Can someone let me know what time they will be back. TIA:wub:

Sure, APM.. I am taking a break too. The judge did say they'd be back @ 12:45, but they run late a lot.. but I will check back @ 12:45 and let you know when there is movement in the court.

:biggrin:

[aproudmom]

Oh, Jamie's back on twitter. She must be okay.

I am so glad to hear that sure hope she gets her something to eat.

[aproudmom]

1245PM Proud..so likely 1PM is when they will start their closings..

LMS

Think they will get it today or tomorrow

[DeeJay]

Can someone let me know what time they will be back. TIA:wub:

IIRC, around 1:45 est. 10:45 pst. I'm on Pacific time.

[aproudmom]

Im Eastern..and my clock will be 1245..suffice to say there is about 30 minutes to go before they reassemble...

BTw..I am so glad that the defense did NOT go down that road of "Blame the Victim" that LD's attny's did..That could explain the seemingly calmness from the Newsoms and Christian's ..Thanks for small mercies I guess!!

I am also looking forward to G's attny's attempt to absolve their client's awareness of what went on in that teeny tiny house for days..He was one of at least 6 adults there all jammed into that house with no doors, and no way for him to be unaware of the violence that went down!!

Course he not only knew..but participated too..assisting the "Big Kahuna" in offing Chris at the tracks ( Boyd too) and then assisting LD in his assault and rapes of Channon..even bound and gagged..there is no way she made no noise...


LMS:cursing:

ITA about blame the victim that was horrible to even hear and I did not even know the victims and it was so bad I wanted to jump threw my screen and choke them.:cursing: didn't work though their client got Death.

[young hippie]

a very big THANKS for all that are answering my ?

[aproudmom]

IIRC, around 1:45 est. 10:45 pst. I'm on Pacific time.

It will be 12:45 my time. We should be live soon:thumbup: WATE live blog say 4 min from break so guessing that means it won't be long

[cog1]

Showing courtroom now. I was starting to get worried. Not sure why? :laugh:

[aproudmom]

TK has her hair up and ready for a good fight.:thumbsup:

[aubrey04]

Cameras are up now, but no sound yet.

[cog1]

Cameras are up now, but no sound yet.

Judge is there, GT is there so we need some sound now please!

[young hippie]

she is fixing to put thomas right in the thick of it

[DeeJay]

she is fixing to put thomas right in the thick of it

She's got to hit it out of the park. They pros don't get a rebuttal this time, b/c the def didn't put on a case. They get the final word.

[DeeJay]

OKay now..4 Black males..humming..that means LD..Boyd, George..who else?..Having a "Sometimers Disease Moment"....

LMS:unsure:

COBBINS. davidson's bro.

[cog1]

OKay now..4 Black males..humming..that means LD..Boyd, George..who else?..Having a "Sometimers Disease Moment"....

LMS:unsure:

Cobbins AKA Rome

[young hippie]

She's got to hit it out of the park. They pros don't get a rebuttal this time, b/c the def didn't put on a case. They get the final word.

i have full faith the she will tie all of it together like a nice xmas present

[cog1]

According to the testimony..(in the other trials)Cobbins and Vanessa were left back at the house with Channon...Maybe the 4th guy was actually Chris..with a hoodie on so obscured his face..???

LMS:confused:

Hmmmm, well darn! :confused:

[DeeJay]

According to the testimony..(in the other trials)Cobbins and Vanessa were left back at the house with Channon...Maybe the 4th guy was actually Chris..with a hoodie on so obscured his face..???

LMS:confused:

Chris had been taken directly to the railroad tracks, on foot is what I think. If ,then driven in the 4runner but no one could have seen them.

I do think it was davidson, boyd & thomas that went took Chris to the railroad tracks. cobbins & coleman stayed at the house to keep watch over Channon. I believe that's when cobbins raped Channon.

[aproudmom]

According to the testimony..(in the other trials)Cobbins and Vanessa were left back at the house with Channon...Maybe the 4th guy was actually Chris..with a hoodie on so obscured his face..???

LMS:confused:

um she did say 4 didn't she:confused:

[young hippie]

boy she is good putting everything together

[aproudmom]

Chris had been taken directly to the railroad tracks, on foot is what I think. If ,then driven in the 4runner but no one could have seen them.

I do think it was davidson, boyd & thomas that went took Chris to the railroad tracks. cobbins & coleman stayed at the house to keep watch over Channon. I believe that's when cobbins raped Channon.

BBM

Boyd yeah it could have been.

[DeeJay]

Chris had been taken directly to the railroad tracks, on foot is what I think. If ,then driven in the 4runner but no one could have seen them.

I do think it was davidson, boyd & thomas that went took Chris to the railroad tracks. cobbins & coleman stayed at the house to keep watch over Channon. I believe that's when cobbins raped Channon.

BBM~~~ Thats my take on it too DeeJay..but doubt very much they walked Chris to the RR tracks..to high risk that someone would see that..like that worker who saw the 4runner...I guess I would have to see a google map to see if that would even be conceivable...I think the burn site was out behind that industrial place that witness worked at..
Dont mind me..I am just think outloud here~~~~LOL

LMS:blink:

My thinking is they walked Chris barefoot over there b/c of the mud on the bottom of his feet.

All around the railroad tracks, there's gravel, no mud.

I am sure we'll never really know which it was, walked or went in the 4runner. :shrug:

[aproudmom]

She ROCKS:thumbup:

[DeeJay]

BBM

Boyd yeah it could have been.

All I can do is speculate, b/c none of them will ever tell us the truth.

Not even if offered a million buck$ and a get out of jail free card.

[annalyzer]

[QUOTE=Lyndawitha"Y;13697122]

My thinking is they walked Chris barefoot over there b/c of the mud on the bottom of his feet.

All around the railroad tracks, there's gravel, no mud.

I am sure we'll never really know which it was, walked or went in the 4runner. :shrug:


Wasn't there mud outside the house though? I thought they pointed that out the other day.

[Roux]

I'm so glad TK is laying this out like she is, explaining how G is responsible under the law.

[DeeJay]

[QUOTE=DeeJay;13697133]


Wasn't there mud outside the house though? I thought they pointed that out the other day.

Awww....you are right, as well as in the back floorboard of the 4runner.

Wonder why no mud in the front? :confused:

[DeeJay]

I'm so glad TK is laying this out like she is, explaining how G is responsible under the law.

Yeppers! She's on the top of her game for sure. :thumbsup:

Hope the jury's gettin it.

[annalyzer]

Annnnnalyzer..please be careful when you quote..as it really screws up the postings ..TYIA:wub:

LMS


The quotes were screwed up before I posted.

Fixed now.

[aproudmom]

Yeppers! She's on the top of her game for sure. :thumbsup:

Hope the jury's gettin it.

She is good I love how she gets fired up.

[DeeJay]

She is good I love how she gets fired up.

She always has so much passion in her summations to the jury.

[annalyzer]

Dont mind me..I am just think outloud here~~~~LOL

LMS:blink:

Quote screw up started here Lynda with a Y. Fixed now. :wink:

[DeeJay]

I don't know about the law in TN, but there's also a law pertaining to Depraved Indifference.

Meaning, if you know someone is dying and you do nothing....you are guilty of that person's death.

And we know, G was there when Channon was suffocating in the garbage can.

[annalyzer]

Whose sperm was found in Chris?

[DeeJay]

Talking about money..didnt we hear that Chris had gone to the ATM and withdrew$100.00..Did they ever find any money on Chris?..I doubt it...maybe he (George) spent some of that money at the store..."Profiting" from a crime..I am sure they had the "Munchies"!!

LMS

Yes, and davidson tried to give Daphne $....it was a lot of $ according to her. The only place LD could have suddenly come in to a windfall that night, is he took it from Chris & pehaps Channon as well.

I am sure C & C both had $. But no $ was discovered by LE. Plus, C & C did not have time to spend their $ b4 being kidnapped.

[annalyzer]

They found semen..but no sperm anna..so couldnt get a DNA match..but it has been proven he had been raped..just no address of the perp..

LMS

Ew. I didn't know there was a difference? :confused:

[young hippie]

wow she is good :thumbsup:

[Roux]

She is good I love how she gets fired up.

She convinced me!

[aproudmom]

BRAVO IMO she did a great job a wonderful job. I could listen to her all day.

[kellann62]

They were a means to an end. Takisha is amazing!! I love that lady!

Kel

[annalyzer]

I just lost my wbir connection. Help!

[Roux]

Thinking about TK saying G went to the sto'. I wonder if there wouldn't be video from the convenience store showing him in there. Guess not, or it might have been entered.

[young hippie]

I just lost my wbir connection. Help!

http://www.wbir.com/video/breakingvideo.aspx

[annalyzer]

http://www.wbir.com/video/breakingvideo.aspx

thanks, it's back. :wub:

[Roux]

I just lost my wbir connection. Help!

I'm on wbir and didn't loose mine.

[annalyzer]

Yepper...whether they just didnt happen upon that sperm with their swab..or someone was shooting blanks..or the stool in Chris destroyed it..we dont know..

BTW..Scientificall..Semen is the fluid that carries the sperm...not the other way around...like when a man gets "Snipped" (ouch) they still have ejaculate but no sperm..Hope Im not getting too clinical here..:blushing:

LMS


So semen itself doesn't have dna but sperm does?

[aproudmom]

Yes, and davidson tried to give Daphne $....it was a lot of $ according to her. The only place LD could have suddenly come in to a windfall that night, is he took it from Chris & pehaps Channon as well.

I am sure C & C both had $. But no $ was discovered by LE. Plus, C & C did not have time to spend their $ b4 being kidnapped.

See I never even thought about thier cash I kept thinking ATM's

I wonder if this Def. Atty would allow his daughter if he has one to stay in the same home with his thug client? I know it is his job but I am sure all these lawyers would not allow their kids or wives near these thugs. JMO

[annalyzer]

I'm on wbir and didn't loose mine.

I think I lost my internet connection for a minute.

[Roux]

Yeah, Mr. Dillard if he was just there, why didn't he take the stand to explain. Doesn 't compute.

[young hippie]

Correct..semen is the fluid ( semenal Fluid) it is the sperm ( the swimmers) that carry the DNA..

So ends my sex talk for the day...LOL

LMS

but what about when they take a q tip and put it in your mouth and get dna why can they not do the same thing with the fluid

[DeeJay]

See I never even thought about thier cash I kept thinking ATM's

I wonder if this Def. Atty would allow his daughter if he has one to stay in the same home with his thug client? I know it is his job but I am sure all these lawyers would not allow their kids or wives near these thugs. JMO

Shoot fire! They themselves don't want to be near their client. :laugh: I noticed this in the other 2 trials. Def kept their distance.

The def had to take the case, like it or not. Big drawback to being a def attorney.

[jewel6]

but what about when they take a q tip and put it in your mouth and get dna why can they not do the same thing with the fluid

It was too degraded to get a match. jmo

[young hippie]

It was too degraded to get a match. jmo

ok that explains that

[aproudmom]

He is trying so hard he can't even think of anything good to say. JMO

[Search4U]

I am getting really nervous! I think it will be hard for the jury to find guilty....what do you all think?

[DeeJay]

Yikes..Mr. Dillard is walking a very narrow line..I am surrised he doesnt have his arms out to keep his balance..LOL...He is going to be convoluting things and hope the jury gets confused after such a clear explanation by 'Fitzy"..

I wonder if he dares use those words..."Woulda..Coulda..Shoulda" ??

LMS

Dillard didn't come out swinging and there's no passion in his deliverance.

If you firmly believe your client is so innocent, wouldn't you be highly passionate? Tell the jury they should not send his innocent client to prison?

Instead he's just pointing fingers at TK's fine delivery.

[jewel6]

I am getting really nervous! I think it will be hard for the jury to find guilty....what do you all think?

Im leaning that this creature will probally walk the streets again!:sad: jmo

[aproudmom]

Shoot fire! They themselves don't want to be near their client. :laugh: I noticed this in the other 2 trials. Def kept their distance.

The def had to take the case, like it or not. Big drawback to being a def attorney.

I know that is why my BIL did it for 5 years and then went to the other side the Pros. and now the Judge.

[annalyzer]

It was too degraded to get a match. jmo

But it tells he was actually raped by something other than an object. How sick.

[Roux]

I am getting really nervous! I think it will be hard for the jury to find guilty....what do you all think?

I don't know, but just pray that they see it as we do.

[jewel6]

But it tells he was actually raped by something other than an object. How sick.

I beleive boyd raped him and G put one of the bullets in him. jmo

[DeeJay]

He is trying so hard he can't even think of anything good to say. JMO

Oh yeah, ITA.....He doesn't sound like he thinks G is so innocent.

He has to remember GARY's sitting right there, front & center so Dillard's walking on eggs? :laugh:

[Search4U]

Im leaning that this creature will probally walk the streets again!:sad: jmo

Good point DeeJay.....defense has no passion!!

[young hippie]

Simple answer..two completely different orafices..and Semenal Fluid is asexual in its components..It just is that way..The mouth not only has saliva, it has skin cells (cheeks) from that person too. This the only DNA they found in Chris was his DNA..from the skin cells of him located in his rectum..Yikes..sorry..gross I know..but I am a clinician..so think beyond emotion about such things..

LMS:ohmy:

you are not grossing me out and thanks for the answer

[aproudmom]

Im leaning that this creature will probally walk the streets again!:sad: jmo

jewel don't scare me:sad:

[jewel6]

They are going to get it today! UH! The jury i mean!

[DeeJay]

HOT DAWG! Price is getting a rebuttal.

Man, I cannot believe how short the def closing went.

[jewel6]

jewel don't scare me:sad:

I just dont think that he will get DP or LWOP. sorry mom. I hope he does. I think he shot chris. Too dang bad he left no dna. jmo

[grammaw]

If this man walks free,then this jury did not do their job,IMO,Of course in Cobbins trial(also from out of town)they blew it with lwop on his a**

[aproudmom]

I don't think we will have a verdict today if the judge still has 25 pages to read to them after Price is done.

[grammaw]

I just dont think that he will get DP or LWOP. sorry mom. I hope he does. I think he shot chris. Too dang bad he left no dna. jmo

Circumstantial evidence can be just as strong

[TBO]

dang, i just got here....what'd i miss? :crying:

[aproudmom]

If this man walks free,then this jury did not do their job,IMO,Of course in Cobbins trial(also from out of town)they blew it with lwop on his a**

ITA gram I am still steaming over that verdict. JMO

[aproudmom]

dang, i just got here....what'd i miss? :crying:

TBO you missed TK she did great. good to see you

[young hippie]

any one want to answer this one infer or imply as a juror can it be infered that the degraded dna belonged to thomas

[grammaw]

Was Dillard going for "ineffective Council"? or did the poor guy just not having anything more to say in defense of his client?..LOL..Now that was flat and lacked any feelings by George's own lawyer...

LMSI truly think the Defense lawyers are going for the attitude of "No big deal,he's just not guilty"

[TBO]

TBO you missed TK she did great. good to see you

nice to see you too mom......dang, i can't believe I missed it...i noticed that she's in court just waiting, do you think she thinks' they'll be back quick with a verdict?

[aproudmom]

Was Dillard going for "ineffective Council"? or did the poor guy just not having anything more to say in defense of his client?..LOL..Now that was flat and lacked any feelings by George's own lawyer...

LMS

ITA I wonder if that is his demeanor heck he should have just put Lurch up there.:smile:

[TBO]

OMG you guys, i thought we were on verdict watch already and when i saw people in the courtroom i was like :scared: ALREADY????

[aproudmom]

I think in Cobbin's Case..that the jury felt at least he got up on the stand, and he did appear to have remorse..and he did come across pitiful.....No such indications for George ( nor LD) in his case..

Dillard, was not very effective in forcing the jury off of what "Fitzy" layed out so clearly..

George will go down..but do think he will get LWOP..simply because they could not prove conclusively he actually did the deed!! JMO of course...

LMS

I think some of the crying lying Lefamiy members helped out Cobbins. JMO and the Jury felt he was so afraid of his big Bro LD

[DeeJay]

If this man walks free,then this jury did not do their job,IMO,Of course in Cobbins trial(also from out of town)they blew it with lwop on his a**

But the beauty in where he is serving his time is a big thank you to Gary.

If you recall, the state corrections had cobbins in a medium security prison until Gary Christian spoke up in the media. then things happened at record speed.

I love Gary!

[jewel6]

I think some of the crying lying Lefamiy members helped out Cobbins. JMO and the Jury felt he was so afraid of his big Bro LD

I think his lawyer helped him too! JMO

[jewel6]

Ya know...the more I watch Lurch the more I am reminded of something...In a pack of Dogs..there is always an Alfa ( Davidson) and there are always followers ( Lurch) then there are worker bees ( Boyd and Cobbins)..and I do believe that Georgey was a follower..and picked up the scraps of windfall from the more powerful of the pack...Loser..comes to mind..lacking empathy..lacking conscience..lacking backbone....

Leland..drive it all home!! George should be a cooked goose!!

LMS

I so totally agree! Ive been thinking this for the longest. look he has no criminal record like the rest of them. He was a follower. just sad shame. He didnt even help. Just going along with these idiots. I still think LD made him shoot chris though!!! JMO

[DeeJay]

I so totally agree! Ive been thinking this for the longest. look he has no criminal record like the rest of them. He was a follower. just sad shame. He didnt even help. Just going along with these idiots. I still think LD made him shoot chris though!!! JMO

Yep. My theory is, each of them shot Chris. :angry: One bullet each.

[aproudmom]

He is doing a good job they make a good team. IMO

[Search4U]

He is doing a good job they make a good team. IMO

Price just dropped the "F" Bomb....LOL!!

[TBO]

Price just dropped the "F" Bomb....LOL!!

LOL i was hoping that he would say "youknowwhati'msaying" every 3rd word LOL

[young hippie]

everyone had a hand in these crimes that way no one would say anthing

[Roux]

Mr. Price making some very good points, i.e., NOT reasonable to think he was in that tiny house and not participate.

[DeeJay]

Judge Baum got his voice back after lunch break.

[aubrey04]

Mr. Price making some very good points, i.e., NOT reasonable to think he was in that tiny house and not participate.

He did a really good job in his closing. I was impressed. He made a lot of great points.

Dillard was a snooze-fest. Someone on wate said that Dillard used to be an ADA and DA.. and judge.. and now he's in private practice & Judge Baum specifically appointed Dillard. I am a little surprised. He didn't have any passion in his closing arguments. It was monotone and didn't seem sincere, imo.

[TBO]

Judge Baum got his voice back after lunch break.

it's amazing what a good "nip" and a "snickers" bar will do!:w00t::laugh:

[aubrey04]

Judge Baum got his voice back after lunch break.

He seems much more alert. Maybe he had a nap.. or a snickers... or a cup of coffee. Maybe he can give Thomas his secret. Sometimes I wait to see Thomas exhale or swallow--- just so I know he's still alive over there.

[aproudmom]

Yep. My theory is, each of them shot Chris. :angry: One bullet each.

I agree I think each of them played some sort of role other than just being there. JMO

[DeeJay]

I agree I think each of them played some sort of role other than just being there. JMO

It was all just a game to those thugs & thought they'd ALL get away with it. Plain & simple.

[Search4U]

Yep Yep..Davidson ws the seasoned felon..and knew he had to make his pack do something that would involve each and everyone of them..or else he woulda offed them too..Thats where I think Fitzy pointed out quite effectively..why would they allow Georgey to sUrvive???because he was a witness too..thats because he had a hand in the crime....otherwise we woulda found him dead along with Chris..

LMS

RIGHT ON!! I hope the jury remembers this.....

[TBO]

has anyone checked to see if Thomas is really alive? does he have a pulse? he looks um, dead.....:scared:

[DeeJay]

Yep Yep..Davidson ws the seasoned felon..and knew he had to make his pack do something that would involve each and everyone of them..or else he woulda offed them too..Thats where I think Fitzy pointed out quite effectively..why would they allow Georgey to sUrvive???because he was a witness too..thats because he had a hand in the crime....otherwise we woulda found him dead along with Chris..

LMS

That goes for VC as well. I will always believe she had a good deal of involvement, in the torturing of Channon.

[aproudmom]

He seems much more alert. Maybe he had a nap.. or a snickers... or a cup of coffee. Maybe he can give Thomas his secret. Sometimes I wait to see Thomas exhale or swallow--- just so I know he's still alive over there.
BBM
:laugh:aub it would save the state of Tenn alot of money. JMO

[TBO]

Well...He is blinking..but that seems to be the only signal of life..LOL

LMS:laugh:

but even with his blinking..........he's only blinks like once every 3 minutes, he's making my head hurt....

[DeeJay]

has anyone checked to see if Thomas is really alive? does he have a pulse? he looks um, dead.....:scared:

The 2 times he's answered the judge's questions, I said, It's ALIVE!!! It's ALIVE!!!

[TBO]

The 2 times he's answered the judge's questions, I said, It's ALIVE!!! It's ALIVE!!!

LOL iknowwhatyoursayin! :thumbsup:

[TBO]

I have a strong feeling that Mr. Lurch has always been rather quiet..even heard that in testimony by those that had met the guy..so assume he just watches, listens and does what he is told....In this scenerio (In Court) I am sure he is more quiet, numb and lack any ability to appear more animated...LOL..as I doubt he ever was ANIMATED even in the best of surrounds!!..In a gang scenerio..He's a follower..and likely doesnt have two brain cells to put together to appear intelligent,,,hummmin..wonder what his education was..wonder if he ever did anything on his own initiative??..Thats why I do think he will get LWOP..

LMS

ITA lynda, i would love to see how he acts in real life! wait, although he seems pretty THUGISH in his interview, youknowwhati'msayin.

[aproudmom]

I used this for Davidson's trial you do have to sign up but no charge and just put breaking news and then after the verdict I just unsubscribed

http://www.wbir.com/news/mobile/text.aspx

[cog1]

I used this for Davidson's trial you do have to sign up but no charge and just put breaking news and then after the verdict I just unsubscribed

http://www.wbir.com/news/mobile/text.aspx

Thanks, I signed up this will be good in case I'm not on this thread.

Ya'll are cracking me up BTW!!! :biggrin:

[aproudmom]

Okay..Electing a Juror Forperson............5 Minutes
Taking a straw vote....................5 minutes
Running thru the charges............15 minutes
Slight discussion.........................30 minutes

That will bring them back in less than an hours..oh wait..another half hour to sign all the forms....LOL..

I can wish cant I?

LMS

I will wish right along with you but I bet we will be wishing until tomorrow:smile:

[aubrey04]

The 2 times he's answered the judge's questions, I said, It's ALIVE!!! It's ALIVE!!!

No kidding. LOL. I was wondering if he'd even be able to respond to the Judge when the Judge addressed him. I thought maybe the Judge would have to ask him to blink once for yes and twice for no.

He's either burned up what few brain cells he had w/drugs.. he's medicated.. or no one has ever been "home" inside that waste of flesh of his.

[Search4U]

No kidding. LOL. I was wondering if he'd even be able to respond to the Judge when the Judge addressed him. I thought maybe the Judge would have to ask him to blink once for yes and twice for no.

He's either burned up what few brain cells he had w/drugs.. he's medicated.. or no one has ever been "home" inside that waste of flesh of his.

I was just thinking,,,,he's GOT to be medicated.

The 2 women (black) sitting on the his side, no you knew she was alive....she was blinking so much, I was thinking, how can she see....lol

[FindtheLost]

Okay..Electing a Juror Forperson............5 Minutes
Taking a straw vote....................5 minutes
Running thru the charges............15 minutes
Slight discussion.........................30 minutes

That will bring them back in less than an hours..oh wait..another half hour to sign all the forms....LOL..

I can wish cant I?

LMS

You know I am hoping for a quick verdict - my quess was 4:30 today -but I don't see that happening. I think it may take even longer because of the lack of DNA evidence. I think he will be convicted but just think the jury will have to have long discussions to sort everything out.

[aproudmom]

ok I am sitting here listening to these two guys acting silly:laugh:
http://www.wbir.com/video/breakingvideo.aspx

[grammaw]

I was just thinking,,,,he's GOT to be medicated.

The 2 women (black) sitting on the his side, no you knew she was alive....she was blinking so much, I was thinking, how can she see....lol

if that was GT Mother,she probably said the same thing,Leland Price,no job,still,always lookin' for a free ride.I can imagine she's real proud of him

[jakee]

ok I am sitting here listening to these two guys acting silly:laugh:
http://www.wbir.com/video/breakingvideo.aspx

I am too. I was wrapping some gifts and heard people talking and ran to my computer to see these two. :laugh:

[aproudmom]

You know I am hoping for a quick verdict - my quess was 4:30 today -but I don't see that happening. I think it may take even longer because of the lack of DNA evidence. I think he will be convicted but just think the jury will have to have long discussions to sort everything out.

Do you or anyone else know if they will break in on WBIR or WATE when the verdict is announced

[aubrey04]

ok I am sitting here listening to these two guys acting silly:laugh:
http://www.wbir.com/video/breakingvideo.aspx

Oops. Not sure those guys know they're still being filmed. They're talking about getting beers. :confused:

[cog1]

ok I am sitting here listening to these two guys acting silly:laugh:
http://www.wbir.com/video/breakingvideo.aspx

Dang, went from buying a six pack to practicing for something at the church!

TY for this. It was too quiet all of a sudden! BTW, don't they know they are live? They better be careful!! :scared:

[aproudmom]

I am too. I was wrapping some gifts and heard people talking and ran to my computer to see these two. :laugh:

I was in the bathroom and heard testing and freaked out, darn them :biggrin:

[DeeJay]

Dang, went from buying a six pack to practing for something at the church!

TY for this. It was too quiet all of a sudden! BTW, don't they know they are live? They better be careful!! :scared:

I was cracking up :laugh: they were going to go into the store and buy a six pack and the one guy was then going to the Baptist church for Christmas pagent rehearsal.

TOO MUCH!! :lol:

[FindtheLost]

Do you or anyone else know if they will break in on WBIR or WATE when the verdict is announced

I don't know but I did sign up for the Breaking News Text from the link you posted.

I had to leave for carpool and didn't here the last part of the charge from the judge. Did he say how long they would deliberate today? Or did he say they could go as long as they wanted?

[DeeJay]

Oops. Not sure those guys know they're still being filmed. They're talking about getting beers. :confused:

They didn't know their mics were still *live." :scared:

[DeeJay]

I don't know but I did sign up for the Breaking News Text from the link you posted.

I had to leave for carpool and didn't here the last part of the charge from the judge. Did he say how long they would deliberate today? Or did he say they could go as long as they wanted?

He said something about not making deliberations today a "marathon." He expects them to stop at a reasonable hour and not go all night or into the night.

[cog1]

I was cracking up :laugh: they were going to go into the store and buy a six pack and the one guy was then going to the Baptist church for Christmas pagent rehearsal.

TOO MUCH!! :lol:

Yeah, then the guys cell rings and he proceeds to tell the caller that they are going to go into the store and get some beers!

Bwwwahhahahhahha:lol:

[DeeJay]

http://web.knoxnews.com/pdf/030309carjack-colemantranscript.pdf

VC's statement, page 28, line 7.

"G and Lemaricus were tying her up in the fetal position..."

[aubrey04]

They didn't know their mics were still *live." :scared:

No. LOL. One of them said, "back to you (forgot the gals name)" and I think he thought he sent it to the other reporter & the mic was turned off.. then they started talking about how they wanted beers and how they should go down the street and "crack some open".. then they started talking about people, but nothing bad.. I was waiting for someone to rag a co-worker, to no avail. :lol:

I am new to twitter and started up an account, so I could follow Jamie and other Knoxville reporters. Does anyone know if there is some sort of alert you can get -- like on your toolbar or something for when there is a new tweet?

[aproudmom]

Oops. Not sure those guys know they're still being filmed. They're talking about getting beers. :confused:

:ohmy:I think it is funny when they do that but you would think someone would scream in his ear to shut up:laugh:

[DeeJay]

No. LOL. One of them said, "back to you (forgot the gals name)" and I think he thought he sent it to the other reporter & the mic was turned off.. then they started talking about how they wanted beers and how they should go down the street and "crack some open".. then they started talking about people, but nothing bad.. I was waiting for someone to rag a co-worker, to no avail. :lol:

I am new to twitter and started up an account, so I could follow Jamie and other Knoxville reporters. Does anyone know if there is some sort of alert you can get -- like on your toolbar or something for when there is a new tweet?

I leave the audio on to wbir & wate. I use 2 laptops, side by side.

[DeeJay]

:ohmy:I think it is funny when they do that but you would think someone would scream in his ear to shut up:laugh:

Better yet, the reporter should know to turn the mic switch to OFF.

[cog1]

http://web.knoxnews.com/pdf/030309carjack-colemantranscript.pdf

VC's statement, page 28, line 7.

"G and Lemaricus were tying her up in the fetal position..."

Good find, wish this could have come out in the trials!! :cursing:

[young hippie]

great posting with all of you i to do look forward to lwop for thomas
also thanks again for answering my ? i am learning a lot hopefully in the morning the jury will come in ask to see and hear a few things just to refresh their memory and then have a verdict :thumbup:

[aproudmom]

No. LOL. One of them said, "back to you (forgot the gals name)" and I think he thought he sent it to the other reporter & the mic was turned off.. then they started talking about how they wanted beers and how they should go down the street and "crack some open".. then they started talking about people, but nothing bad.. I was waiting for someone to rag a co-worker, to no avail. :lol:

I am new to twitter and started up an account, so I could follow Jamie and other Knoxville reporters. Does anyone know if there is some sort of alert you can get -- like on your toolbar or something for when there is a new tweet?

Not sure I have the text alert from WBIR and have Gene P/WATE Reporter tweeter page open and keep refreshing it.

[aubrey04]

http://web.knoxnews.com/pdf/030309carjack-colemantranscript.pdf

VC's statement, page 28, line 7.

"G and Lemaricus were tying her up in the fetal position..."

That's what I was talking about earlier -- how there is no way that Lemaricus put Channon in the plastic bag all by himself, but only his prints are on the bags.. Someone had to lift channon while he was keeping the bag open. You know how trashbags fold up and you have to hold them open when putting something big in them.

G is WAY, WAY, WAY more involved than what was presented in this trial. However the prosecution couldn't allege all this w/o the evidence to back it up. I bet it was hard for Price & Fitz to only give out part of the story during closing.. They KNOW he was way more involved than what was let on.

Ugh.

ETA ~ I am re-reading Coleman's interview.. It makes me sick, because I do believe a lot of what she said... not all of it is credible, but I do believe there are bits of truth in each persons statement, besides maybe Davidson's.

[aproudmom]

great posting with all of you i to do look forward to lwop for thomas
also thanks again for answering my ? i am learning a lot hopefully in the morning the jury will come in ask to see and hear a few things just to refresh their memory and then have a verdict :thumbup:

Bye young hippie have a great evening

[DeeJay]

Good find, wish this could have come out in the trials!! :cursing:

Actually, VC gives a lot more info of the goings on than the others.

VC names G's involvement thru out her LE statement.

VC didn't testify, therefore her statement can't be used. It can be used in her trial.

[aubrey04]

:ohmy:I think it is funny when they do that but you would think someone would scream in his ear to shut up:laugh:

Well, I kept on listening. Maybe he ticked off the camera guy and he left the audio on ---on purpose. lol.

Thanks for the tip on twitter. I will keep refreshing the page too.

It's been one hour.

[DeeJay]

That's what I was talking about earlier -- how there is no way that Lemaricus put Channon in the plastic bag all by himself, but only his prints are on the bags.. Someone had to lift channon while he was keeping the bag open. You know how trashbags fold up and you have to hold them open when putting something big in them.

G is WAY, WAY, WAY more involved than what was presented in this trial. However the prosecution couldn't allege all this w/o the evidence to back it up. I bet it was hard for Price & Fitz to only give out part of the story during closing.. They KNOW he was way more involved than what was let on.

Ugh.

ETA ~ I am re-reading Coleman's interview.. It makes me sick, because I do believe a lot of what she said... not all of it is credible, but I do believe there are bits of truth in each persons statement, besides maybe Davidson's.

Indeed. VC's statement has G & Lemaricus working hand-hand throughout. More G than the others.

Nessa gave prior statements to LE prior to the one we are privy to read. I'd like to see the other ones.

[cog1]

Actually, VC gives a lot more info of the goings on than the others.

VC names G's involvement thru out her LE statement.

VC didn't testify, therefore her statement can't be used. It can be used in her trial.

I agree and her trial is goingt to be something!! That one I hope I can watch all the way thru!

[kellann62]

That's what I was talking about earlier -- how there is no way that Lemaricus put Channon in the plastic bag all by himself, but only his prints are on the bags.. Someone had to lift channon while he was keeping the bag open. You know how trashbags fold up and you have to hold them open when putting something big in them.

G is WAY, WAY, WAY more involved than what was presented in this trial. However the prosecution couldn't allege all this w/o the evidence to back it up. I bet it was hard for Price & Fitz to only give out part of the story during closing.. They KNOW he was way more involved than what was let on.

Ugh.

ETA ~ I am re-reading Coleman's interview.. It makes me sick, because I do believe a lot of what she said... not all of it is credible, but I do believe there are bits of truth in each persons statement, besides maybe Davidson's.

I wish I hadn't read that again. I just feel so sick and saddened. Just brings it right back to the beginning doesn't it. I can not even imagine having those images the families have.

Kel:sad::crying:

[TBO]

I agree and her trial is goingt to be something!! That one I hope I can watch all the way thru!

:scared:COG? hey girl, any verdict yet?

[aproudmom]

That's what I was talking about earlier -- how there is no way that Lemaricus put Channon in the plastic bag all by himself, but only his prints are on the bags.. Someone had to lift channon while he was keeping the bag open. You know how trashbags fold up and you have to hold them open when putting something big in them.

G is WAY, WAY, WAY more involved than what was presented in this trial. However the prosecution couldn't allege all this w/o the evidence to back it up. I bet it was hard for Price & Fitz to only give out part of the story during closing.. They KNOW he was way more involved than what was let on.

Ugh.

ETA ~ I am re-reading Coleman's interview.. It makes me sick, because I do believe a lot of what she said... not all of it is credible, but I do believe there are bits of truth in each persons statement, besides maybe Davidson's.

I don't see how their DNA or prints were not on any of those trash bags CC was tall LD did not put her in there alone.

[cog1]

:scared:COG? hey girl, any verdict yet?

Hey T! :wink:

Nothing yet girl! We are on HIGH ALERT!!! :thumbsup:

[cog1]

I don't see how their DNA or prints were not on any of those trash bags CC was tall LD did not put her in there alone.

Remember those surgical gloves on the table in the kitchen? They showed them when they made the video of the house prior to touching anything.

MOO but I think that is why no prints on the bags of others who did help stuff her in there!

[aproudmom]

I wish I hadn't read that again. I just feel so sick and saddened. Just brings it right back to the beginning doesn't it. I can not even imagine having those images the families have.

Kel:sad::crying:

I remember after LD got the DP Gary said come on over to my house and I will show you the pics then tell me he should not be put to death.:crying:

[cog1]

I wish I hadn't read that again. I just feel so sick and saddened. Just brings it right back to the beginning doesn't it. I can not even imagine having those images the families have.

Kel:sad::crying:

Kel, I agree with you. I had to stop reading it cause it was making it all so real and fresh again. Those poor families and friends!!! :wub:

[TBO]

Hey T! :wink:

Nothing yet girl! We are on HIGH ALERT!!! :thumbsup:

10-4! LOL:w00t:

[DeeJay]

That's what I was talking about earlier -- how there is no way that Lemaricus put Channon in the plastic bag all by himself, but only his prints are on the bags.. Someone had to lift channon while he was keeping the bag open. You know how trashbags fold up and you have to hold them open when putting something big in them.

G is WAY, WAY, WAY more involved than what was presented in this trial. However the prosecution couldn't allege all this w/o the evidence to back it up. I bet it was hard for Price & Fitz to only give out part of the story during closing.. They KNOW he was way more involved than what was let on.

Ugh.

ETA ~ I am re-reading Coleman's interview.. It makes me sick, because I do believe a lot of what she said... not all of it is credible, but I do believe there are bits of truth in each persons statement, besides maybe Davidson's.

Oh yes, I forgot to mention LD did need assistance from someone to put Channon in the bags.

Shoot fire! I can barely put old bulky pillows (to throw away), into a garbage bag(s) by myself.

In trial, LE would refer to this n that "being out of place." in that house of horrors. I'm like, "How can you tell in THAT house if something's out of place?" :laugh:

Front to back that house was a garbage dump.

[cog1]

10-4! LOL:w00t:

Better than a 220, LOL :tonguewag: