CNN: Obama approval rating below 50 percent [Archive]

IaNsSyAlNuE

12-05-2009, 03:08 PM

Duke

12-05-2009, 06:17 PM

Obama approval rating below 50 percent

"Washington (CNN) -- Support for President Obama has dropped below 50 percent for the first time in a CNN poll despite high marks for his recently announced Afghanistan policy."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/04/obama.approval.poll/index.html

I can say this is true within my group of friends that voted for him.

juliekan

12-05-2009, 06:18 PM

Remind me again of Bush's approval ratings, Cheney's? Palins?

When was Palin president :confused:

Lady_Jean_La

12-05-2009, 06:26 PM

Remind me again of Bush's approval ratings, Cheney's? Palins?

Why? :confused:

IaNsSyAlNuE

12-05-2009, 06:37 PM

Remind me again of Bush's approval ratings, Cheney's? Palins?

Okay I will remind you...Bush was close to 85% near a full year in office. He did not dip below 50% until near 4 years in office.

http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm

As far as Palin and Cheney they have never been president. Why not compare oranges to oranges and not to ex governors and those who have never been president?

IaNsSyAlNuE

12-05-2009, 06:38 PM

Why? :confused:

LOL , why indeed .

ninetoes

12-05-2009, 06:41 PM

Obama approval rating below 50 percent

"Washington (CNN) -- Support for President Obama has dropped below 50 percent for the first time in a CNN poll despite high marks for his recently announced Afghanistan policy."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/04/obama.approval.poll/index.html

IIRC there have only been 4 or 5 presidents who's approval ratings have dropped so far within their first year in office.

Lady_Jean_La

12-05-2009, 06:51 PM

Some people may have an easy time as president others endure much stress. I don't think the approval rating compares presidents. What is important is some of the people who voted for Barack Obama do not approve of his performance. imo

theal3

12-05-2009, 07:41 PM

:shrug: So you may think. Some voted B2 twice and still don't "get it." Pres Obama is in the position of fixing one hellatious mess and he is doing the job he was elected to do. Sometimes, it isn't about 'popular,' it's about being right and getting the job done. imeo

Well some farther left and independs may have changed their minds from news accounts I've seen, and many GOPers are delighted with MORE troops etc, I read where Newt approves, Rove approves, Krystol and the other neocons approve....., all they can nitpick on now is he didn't use the word "victory," but he did use the word "successful end."

I don't know what polls mean anymore when 1/2 the people don't vote, so isn't 50% approval of the 50% who vote more like 25%? LOL.

And nowdays there are more independs than Dems or GOPs.

IaNsSyAlNuE

12-05-2009, 07:58 PM

Well some farther left and independs may have changed their minds from news accounts I've seen, and many GOPers are delighted with MORE troops etc, I read where Newt approves, Rove approves, Krystol and the other neocons approve....., all they can nitpick on now is he didn't use the word "victory," but he did use the word "successful end."

I don't know what polls mean anymore when 1/2 the people don't vote, so isn't 50% approval of the 50% who vote more like 25%? LOL.

And nowdays there are more independs than Dems or GOPs.

Well it obviously means something being under 50% given it was at over 70% or was it 80% at one point in time? Something changed somewhere.

Lady_Jean_La

12-05-2009, 08:44 PM

Lady_Jean_La

12-05-2009, 08:52 PM

Well it obviously means something being under 50% given it was at over 70% or was it 80% at one point in time? Something changed somewhere.
ITA The only relevance is a measure of up or down. Is he doing better or worse. Comparisons to others are rather silly. It is all about President Obama, now compared with the past. imo

Silk

12-05-2009, 09:10 PM

Obama approval rating below 50 percent

"Washington (CNN) -- Support for President Obama has dropped below 50 percent for the first time in a CNN poll despite high marks for his recently announced Afghanistan policy."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/12/04/obama.approval.poll/index.html

When Bush left office it was at 29, IIRC.
President Obama will prove a lot of right wing runners wrong by the time he begins his second term. You'll see..:biggrin:

IaNsSyAlNuE

12-05-2009, 09:35 PM

When Bush left office it was at 29, IIRC.
President Obama will prove a lot of right wing runners wrong by the time he begins his second term. You'll see..:biggrin:

If one wishes to compare presidents as it seems you and others here on this thread do. At the same time in Bush's tenure, (11 months in) his approval was at 85% compared to Obama's 48% ( 11 months in) now.

Susan43

12-05-2009, 11:52 PM

If one wishes to compare presidents as it seems you and others here on this thread do. At the same time in Bush's tenure, (11 months in) his approval was at 85% compared to Obama's 48% ( 11 months in) now.

Sure, I was part of that 85%. We pulled together to support a president who faced a terrible problem. I'm proud that I supported the president when the country was in a time of need.

And now I look at what the right has done in the past 11 months and if I were one of you I'd be ashamed of myself. And here you are bragging because the country rallied behind Bush while the right has done nothing but criticize, stall, and obstruct a new president. The country is in trouble and what has the right done about it? Why they've played politics, that's what they've done.

Have you on the right tried to pull together with the left to make the country stronger? Of course not, you've held teaparties, obstructed decent legislation and been all around nasty.

Well, I'm not ashamed of supporting Bush when he needed the country behind him after 9/11. But I'll bet you won't be able to say the same thing in 8 years.

Patriot

12-05-2009, 11:58 PM

When was Palin president :confused:

Really. What the heck? ROTFL.

Lady_Jean_La

12-06-2009, 12:18 AM

Sure, I was part of that 85%. We pulled together to support a president who faced a terrible problem. I'm proud that I supported the president when the country was in a time of need.

And now I look at what the right has done in the past 11 months and if I were one of you I'd be ashamed of myself. And here you are bragging because the country rallied behind Bush while the right has done nothing but criticize, stall, and obstruct a new president. The country is in trouble and what has the right done about it? Why they've played politics, that's what they've done.

Have you on the right tried to pull together with the left to make the country stronger? Of course not, you've held teaparties, obstructed decent legislation and been all around nasty.

Well, I'm not ashamed of supporting Bush when he needed the country behind him after 9/11. But I'll bet you won't be able to say the same thing in 8 years.

Eight years from now people may wonder how President Obama ever got over 50% approval but hind sight is a great thing. We are here, now and the President's approval is going down. It is what it is. imo

Lady_Jean_La

12-06-2009, 12:25 AM

The question you should be asking is "who else is more popular?"

Not Sarah, no!

No one is more popular. Sorry you don't get the message here. Try again with some more relevant question next time. Right now, the man in the White House is more popular and more endorsed than anyone else. Again, sorry you missed the context.

Great point! That is the question and the comparison. Very meannigful and relative. imo

LisaM22

12-06-2009, 12:25 AM

Bush was close to 80% after 1 year in office if I remember correctly.

I guess we could thank the terrorists for that? then of course we dropped the ball in Afghanistan and went after Iraq, maybe Bush's way of saying thanks?

Susan43

12-06-2009, 12:29 AM

Eight years from now people may wonder how President Obama ever got over 50% approval but hind sight is a great thing. We are here, now and the President's approval is going down. It is what it is. imo

You really think that in 8 years that people may wonder why Obama got over 50%? Honestly?

I can look back on the past 8 years and explain the approval ratings with no problem. But I really find it difficult to understand the way the right has acted towards this new president. They have even had people that said they wanted the president to fail. How is that good for the country?

When the country was in trouble in 2001 the right and left pulled together to support the president. Obviously the right can't do that now. How very sad and shameful. And you're right, "it is what it is."

LisaM22

12-06-2009, 12:32 AM

Well it obviously means something being under 50% given it was at over 70% or was it 80% at one point in time? Something changed somewhere.

means a small portion of those polled have fallen for the smear and fear campaign of the right, nothing more

Lady_Jean_La

12-06-2009, 12:33 AM

You really think that in 8 years that people may wonder why Obama got over 50%? Honestly?

I can look back on the past 8 years and explain the approval ratings with no problem. But I really find it difficult to understand the way the right has acted towards this new president. They have even had people that said they wanted the president to fail. How is that good for the country?

When the country was in trouble in 2001 the right and left pulled together to support the president. Obviously the right can't do that now. How very sad and shameful. And you're right, "it is what it is."

I have no idea what will happen 8 years from now. But I am guessing people will feel differently than they do now. imo

Lady_Jean_La

12-06-2009, 12:34 AM

means a small portion of those polled have fallen for the smear and fear campaign of the right, nothing more

It could be hard to get them back. Fear can be very strong. imo

daniel green

12-06-2009, 01:17 AM

Just as an FYI, the President's job approval moved from 49% to 52% in the last few days on the Gallup poll.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx

IaNsSyAlNuE

12-06-2009, 02:09 AM

Sure, I was part of that 85%. We pulled together to support a president who faced a terrible problem. I'm proud that I supported the president when the country was in a time of need.

And now I look at what the right has done in the past 11 months and if I were one of you I'd be ashamed of myself. And here you are bragging because the country rallied behind Bush while the right has done nothing but criticize, stall, and obstruct a new president. The country is in trouble and what has the right done about it? Why they've played politics, that's what they've done.

Have you on the right tried to pull together with the left to make the country stronger? Of course not, you've held teaparties, obstructed decent legislation and been all around nasty.

Well, I'm not ashamed of supporting Bush when he needed the country behind him after 9/11. But I'll bet you won't be able to say the same thing in 8 years.

LOL Oh please, put your “high horse” back in the stable. Don’t tell me I have to support a warring president when I did not support the last one. Obama said he was offering up change and transparency all of which is few and far between. I have voted republican 2 times in my life and neither of those was for GWB.

IaNsSyAlNuE

12-06-2009, 02:28 AM

Hmmm........ can we cite 9/11 when America actually pulled together to support a President that vowed revenge against those who took American lives? Not a fair comparison. JMO

Well then look at Bush's first 3 years he did NOT drop below 50% until August of 2004. He maintained a rating of between 60-75 % until August of 2004

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/graphic/2005/04/25/GR2005042500945.html

IaNsSyAlNuE

12-06-2009, 02:33 AM

Yes - right after Americans realized that the WMD were all a lie. We did not enter Iraq until March 2003. JMO

And are American's realizing that Obama lied? Because I am seeing a lot more of the same as we had with Bush.

BoredMember

12-06-2009, 07:18 AM

Obama gets about a 90% in my book.

Never really been a poll person. Probably because I have never been polled, so all results seem suspect to me.

Freebird

12-06-2009, 07:19 AM

Remind me again of Bush's approval ratings, Cheney's? Palins?

Remind me again who's President? It's not Bush,Cheney or Palin.

Xenam

12-06-2009, 08:42 PM

Morning Susan ....

That's just a GREAT point you make. Your last paragraph hits the nail right on the end. I know, after 9/11, I was fully behind President Bush. The Country DOES rally .... SHOULD rally during times like that. Since President Obama assumed office, there has been nothing BUT obstruction. No doubt about it.

jmo

ITA. Comparing the first 11 months for President Obama to President Bush for the same time is like apples and oranges. 9/11 made all the difference and we pretty much garnered support right up to the Iraq war in 2003. As soon as most Americans found out about the lies of the WMD Bush's ratings dropped quickly. JMO

juliekan

12-06-2009, 10:27 PM

LOL BoredMember .... Come to think of it, I've never been polled either .... lol:wink:

Where ARE all those people who get polled all the time ??

I think if you answer the phone once when they call, you get in a cycle.

About 6 years ago, the University of Pennsylvania called my house and polled me. Then they continued to call back about once a month for about a year. Nothing since then, but I really enjoyed someone calling and asking what I was thinking.

spiritnurse

12-10-2009, 05:53 AM

Obama gets about a 90% in my book.

Never really been a poll person. Probably because I have never been polled, so all results seem suspect to me.

LOL sure they seem suspect unless they are more favoring. America is not happy with the President plain and simple and instead of working on his far left supporters agendas and more sincere effort on the economy and jobs he will and he knows it serve one term but in that one term get as much far left crap accomplished, that was the deal with the Devil.

Silk

12-10-2009, 06:27 AM

Bush was close to 80% after 1 year in office if I remember correctly.

It's not where you begin but rather where you end...

What was Bush's approval rating in September 2008..
:sneaky:

Silk

12-10-2009, 06:29 AM

Okay I will remind you...Bush was close to 85% near a full year in office. He did not dip below 50% until near 4 years in office.

http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm

As far as Palin and Cheney they have never been president. Why not compare oranges to oranges and not to ex governors and those who have never been president?

That's a heck of a lot worse at the end of his term than at the beginning.:ohmy:

CANDYKISSES

12-10-2009, 06:33 AM

When Bush left office it was at 29, IIRC.
President Obama will prove a lot of right wing runners wrong by the time he begins his second term. You'll see..:biggrin:

Give Obama a little more time and he'll be hovering around the Bush exit percentile. :scared: JMO

Zanzi

12-13-2009, 07:46 AM

Give Obama a little more time and he'll be hovering around the Bush exit percentile. :scared: JMO

Wanda Sykes, "Remember 'yes we can'? Well, I wish you would."

That pretty much sums up Obama's success so far. MO

Mahalo

12-14-2009, 09:43 AM

Give Obama a little more time and he'll be hovering around the Bush exit percentile. :scared: JMO

Even if that's true, which it won't be.......A LOT less Servicemen and Women will have died, in the name of vanity......

Zanzi

01-04-2010, 12:28 PM

http://www.gallup.com/tag/presidential+job+approval.aspx

"WASHINTON, D.C. -- Gallup.Com reviews the most defining findings of 2009."

Zanzi

01-04-2010, 12:32 PM

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Monday, January 04, 2010
"The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 26% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Forty-one percent (41%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -15 (see trends)."

Susan43

01-04-2010, 09:23 PM

http://www.gallup.com/tag/presidential+job+approval.aspx

"WASHINTON, D.C. -- Gallup.Com reviews the most defining findings of 2009."

This is kind of cool.

“Political Winners” Circle Filled by Figures Close to Obama

PRINCETON, NJ -- In Americans' estimation, the top three political winners of 2009 are all women closely linked with the Obama administration: Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Sonia Sotomayor. Among these, Michelle Obama has the broadest support with 73% calling her a "winner" in U.S. politics this year and 21% a "loser." However, Clinton's rating is nearly as positive.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124790/Political-Winners-Circle-Filled-Figures-Close-Obama.aspx

Zanzi

01-05-2010, 10:06 AM

This is kind of cool.

“Political Winners” Circle Filled by Figures Close to Obama

PRINCETON, NJ -- In Americans' estimation, the top three political winners of 2009 are all women closely linked with the Obama administration: Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Sonia Sotomayor. Among these, Michelle Obama has the broadest support with 73% calling her a "winner" in U.S. politics this year and 21% a "loser." However, Clinton's rating is nearly as positive.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124790/Political-Winners-Circle-Filled-Figures-Close-Obama.aspx

Sure reinforces comments* I've heard that many of those who switched from Hillary to Obama are really having "buyer's regret." *No link - friends/family, etc.

Carol25

01-05-2010, 04:46 PM

This is kind of cool.

“Political Winners” Circle Filled by Figures Close to Obama

PRINCETON, NJ -- In Americans' estimation, the top three political winners of 2009 are all women closely linked with the Obama administration: Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Sonia Sotomayor. Among these, Michelle Obama has the broadest support with 73% calling her a "winner" in U.S. politics this year and 21% a "loser." However, Clinton's rating is nearly as positive.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124790/Political-Winners-Circle-Filled-Figures-Close-Obama.aspx

Michelle Obama, a political winner? I forget what Laura Bush or Barbara Bush's percentages were.

Michelle is no political figure. She can be called a fashion trend setter and a good one at that. JMO

franker01

01-05-2010, 10:52 PM

Look Fairlady, it's ALL OVER!!! Americans want Bush back in the White House!!! They don't like Obama, there's 49.9% on some issues that don't want Obama there..............why don't you and I start working to bring back Bush, or, maybe, John, ("the foundation of the American economy is sound") McCain, along with Sarah, ("I can be more effective if I quit and do nothing") Palin.

It's all over for Obama! Let's face it, those 47.9% of Americans who voted for McCain, they should rule!!! Obama should give it up and move his family back to...............Chicago..Hawaii...Kenya..

Just get Sarah in that White House...she will make us know what America is all about. (Then she might quit, like she did in AK).

Get Obama out of there, let Sarah move in! McCain? Oh wait, I guess he has to take the White House first. So let's have a poll to make sure McCain and Palin are more popular than Obama.........no?

Assuming that you were being serious, that was a very sensible post. IMO.

:laugh::laugh::laugh: