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[tia marie]

“If I could get anything for Christmas, it would be Haleigh. No doubt. That’s all I want for Christmas,” said Haleigh’s father Ronald Cummings.

Ronald invited Action News teams over to his house to speak with him and his mother about the holidays. Ronald has moved a massive memorial filled with Haleigh’s toys and pictures to the main room of the Welaka home he’s staying in. The memorial takes up an entire wall of the living room.

December 10th will mark the 10-month mark since Haleigh disappeared. Her family tells Action News a candlelight vigil will be held the night of December 10th to keep the awareness up about Haleigh. The reward for information on Haleigh’s whereabouts is up to more than $30,000. If you have any information, call police.

Video: Holiday without Haleigh 11/30/2009-02:01
HALEIGH'S FATHER, AND GRANDMOTHER ARE FACING A NEW HOLIDAY SEASON WITHOUT THEIR BABY GIRL
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediace...com&navCatId=5

Video: Holiday Without Haleigh 11/26/2009-01:25
WHILE MANY ARE CELEBRATING THE HOLIDAYS, IT'S AN ESPECIALLY TOUGH TIME FOR FOR HALEIGH CUMMINGS FAMILY. THIS IS THEIR FIRST THANKSGIVING WITHOUT HER
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediace...com&navCatId=5

[just4justice]

As the Christmas holiday approaches I recall last year's video of Haleigh opening her gifts.She was so happy and full of joy. I then think about Haleigh's family and how sad to not know what happened to her. Not knowing whether she is dead or alive or if she is alive is she being adequately taken care of has to be unbearable. Regardless of how anyone personally feels about either parent one has to know they are suffering immeasurably. I can't begin to wrap my brain around how anyone can get through a day, never mind almost 10 months, of not knowing. How does Misty live with herself knowing that she could unlock the mystery by coming clean. Had she really cared about Ron and if she weren't guilty of being complicit she would have given an accurate, minute by minute accounting of that night. She has chosen to protect herself and to he** with anyone else. The best we can hope for is that she will be arrested for something....anything that will scare her into telling exactly what happened that night.

[Justice4all]

“If I could get anything for Christmas, it would be Haleigh. No doubt. That’s all I want for Christmas,” said Haleigh’s father Ronald Cummings.

Ronald invited Action News teams over to his house to speak with him and his mother about the holidays. Ronald has moved a massive memorial filled with Haleigh’s toys and pictures to the main room of the Welaka home he’s staying in. The memorial takes up an entire wall of the living room.

December 10th will mark the 10-month mark since Haleigh disappeared. Her family tells Action News a candlelight vigil will be held the night of December 10th to keep the awareness up about Haleigh. The reward for information on Haleigh’s whereabouts is up to more than $30,000. If you have any information, call police.

Video: Holiday without Haleigh 11/30/2009-02:01
HALEIGH'S FATHER, AND GRANDMOTHER ARE FACING A NEW HOLIDAY SEASON WITHOUT THEIR BABY GIRL
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediace...com&navCatId=5

Video: Holiday Without Haleigh 11/26/2009-01:25
WHILE MANY ARE CELEBRATING THE HOLIDAYS, IT'S AN ESPECIALLY TOUGH TIME FOR FOR HALEIGH CUMMINGS FAMILY. THIS IS THEIR FIRST THANKSGIVING WITHOUT HER
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediace...com&navCatId=5


God bless Ron for keeping Haleigh in the news.

[Tracian]

God bless Ron for keeping Haleigh in the news.


I agree. This is so horrible, to have to try to put on a brave face for Jr. while your heart is being torn out.

I am sure we all pray for a Miracle in Satsuma!

[Justice4all]

I agree. This is so horrible, to have to try to put on a brave face for Jr. while your heart is being torn out.

I am sure we all pray for a Miracle in Satsuma!

Breaks my heart when they say Jr says " don't forget to get presents for Haleigh" :crying:

I really hope haleigh comes home soon.

[Tracian]

Breaks my heart when they say Jr says " don't forget to get presents for Haleigh" :crying:

I really hope haleigh comes home soon.


I really believe that she is alive, I don't know why, but I do.

[Motomom]

I really believe that she is alive, I don't know why, but I do.

Its been so long tho Trac..I know it's possible and I've always thought she was, but now I just don't know. You know me, I go back and forth on it.

[5boxersmom]

Breaks my heart when they say Jr says " don't forget to get presents for Haleigh" :crying:

I really hope haleigh comes home soon.

Heartbreaking. I hope so too. I can't believe it has been this long that she has been missing. I wish someone would have a heart and tell what happen. :sad:

jmo

[HenLee]

I agree. This is so horrible, to have to try to put on a brave face for Jr. while your heart is being torn out.

I am sure we all pray for a Miracle in Satsuma!Closure of some kind with Justice would certainly be a gift.

[Chica]

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Your link(s) are not working for me Tia.

Me neither......

[Justice4all]

Closure of some kind with Justice would certainly be a gift.

Amen,..I agree.

[Brattnt]

This link works...:crying:

A Holiday without Haleigh

“If I could get anything for Christmas, it would be Haleigh. No doubt. That’s all I want for Christmas,” said Haleigh’s father Ronald Cummings.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/A-Holiday-without-Haleigh/8hvfZ_mlZU2f7jkUA8S6pQ.cspx

[Tracian]

This link works...:crying:

A Holiday without Haleigh

“If I could get anything for Christmas, it would be Haleigh. No doubt. That’s all I want for Christmas,” said Haleigh’s father Ronald Cummings.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/A-Holiday-without-Haleigh/8hvfZ_mlZU2f7jkUA8S6pQ.cspx


It's nice that Ron thanked all those still looking for HaLeigh; and that he is keeping her name out there.

[titanfan217]

Touching! Well, at least Ron didn't subject himself to spending the Thanksgiving with his family, it has to be hard being around people who remind him of HaLeigh..

JMO

Welcome. This board needs a fresh opinion.

[panman]

Touching! Well, at least Ron didn't subject himself to spending the Thanksgiving with his family, it has to be hard being around people who remind him of HaLeigh..

JMO

Nice seeing ya. I am sure it is more than just "touching". I doubt just being around family reminds him of Haleigh. I would bet she is in his thoughts 24/7.

[Tracian]

Probably haunting his dreams too- maybe if he would just come clean about the events of Feb 9, 2009, he may be able to breathe easier, huh?

Anyways, has the police report came out yet about the 4 wheeler that got stole that Ron reported missing yesterday morning? Kinda jabs in my crawl he can call 911 about a 4 wheeler and not about his daughter, cause he made Misty do all the dirty work, imo- jmo-moo



Ron was at work when HaLeigh was taken, common sense proves that the last person that saw HaLeigh would make the call, as they could give the proper information, like what she was wearing, when the last time she saw her, stuff that they need to know from the person there, regardless of biological connection.

[Justice4all]

Probably haunting his dreams too- maybe if he would just come clean about the events of Feb 9, 2009, he may be able to breathe easier, huh?

Anyways, has the police report came out yet about the 4 wheeler that got stole that Ron reported missing yesterday morning? Kinda jabs in my crawl he can call 911 about a 4 wheeler and not about his daughter, cause he made Misty do all the dirty work, imo- jmo-moo

Do you have a link about the 4 wheeler being stolen?

and Ron wasn't home when Haleigh was taken so how would he really know what to tell the 911 operator?

[Tracian]

What bugs me about him not being able to make the call, and I wouldnt fault him for it, but its not like when the call was being made he was out banging on doors, and waking neighbors and running around outside, he was standing right there sprouting off at the mouth, I mean who wouldnt look outside for their missing child? If I had to take a bet about someone who could do that, it would be someone who knew exactly what happened to their child, because its inexcusable- Didn't they say they was looking under beds and stuff, but its like, how can you look under beds when they were all off the frame?

Time to tell the truth Ron!!

JMO- MOO-IMO


LE is fixated on Misty, and from the arrests, her family. Tommy said Misty was not at the house.

Time for Misty to tell the truth.

[Justice4all]

LE is fixated on Misty, and from the arrests, her family. Tommy said Misty was not at the house.

Time for Misty to tell the truth.

Exactly Tracian....I have to wonder why so many people are only fixated on Ron when LE said a long time ago Misty is key to finding Haleigh and they have said Ron is not considered a suspect.

[Tracian]

Right, but the family arrests are for things like drugs, thats stuff they are doing and getting in trouble- if the cops were so fixated on them, there would be no bail for anyone of them, they would be so happy to have them as guests at the Putnam CO hotel- that really hasn't happened-

And you are right, when Misty does tell the truth, It will be a great day, considering she knows the child is deceased, per her voice test-

jmo-moo-imo



I don't know anything about Misty knowing HaLeigh has passed according to her voice tests.

[Tracian]

Oh, really, maybe you should google it?


I realize you are new here, customarily, if one makes a statement of fact a link is required to support it, unless it is your opinion then no link is required.

[baywench]

Exactly Tracian....I have to wonder why so many people are only fixated on Ron when LE said a long time ago Misty is key to finding Haleigh and they have said Ron is not considered a suspect.

I don't think Ron had anything to do with the disappearance but there is no way he slept with Misty all this time and they didn't have any pillow talk about what happened that night. Why doesn't he call her out once and for all. Why doesn't he give a detailed account of what condition the MH was in and what beds where slept in? He knows alot imo

[Tracian]

It's against TOS to accuse another poster of being other than the name they are posting under.

[baywench]

Does anyone know who's house Ron is staying at? Is JR with him or is he with Grandma Sykes? jmo

[Tracian]

I don't think Ron had anything to do with the disappearance but there is no way he slept with Misty all this time and they didn't have any pillow talk about what happened that night. Why doesn't he call her out once and for all. Why doesn't he give a detailed account of what condition the MH was in and what beds where slept in? He knows alot imo


The thing is, he very well may have. LE is really not talking, but IMO, they were really upset when the test results came out, up until that time they really didn't say anything about their results.

It seems that LE does not want any information leaked out, so we really don't know what Ron has told them, cause they are not telling.

[baywench]

The thing is, he very well may have. LE is really not talking, but IMO, they were really upset when the test results came out, up until that time they really didn't say anything about their results.

It seems that LE does not want any information leaked out, so we really don't know what Ron has told them, cause they are not telling.


I hate it when you are logical lol. That is very true but sometimes my frustration over the lack of information just bubbles over. I get that they can't let out much information and when they said that basically Misty was the key that was big. Obviously Misty is the key, I wish I believed things would change when Misty turns 18 but I don't think that is why they are holding back. They obviously have a case that is fragile at this point. jmo

[Tracian]

I have confidence the LE has way more than anyone of us could even imagine- its takes a bit of time to bring a case to a grand jury without a body, and making it stick- I do think Misty will follow into the footsteps of her family, and she will get in trouble, and when she finally finds herself in big girl jail on high bond, she will drop the ball-

JMO- IMO-MOO


I tend to agree; however, I think if Misty had anything on Ron, she would have spilled her guts already, especially with the charges her brother has pending against him.

Misty not 'turning' on Ron, IMO, means she has nothing to turn on him with.

[baywench]

I have confidence the LE has way more than anyone of us could even imagine- its takes a bit of time to bring a case to a grand jury without a body, and making it stick- I do think Misty will follow into the footsteps of her family, and she will get in trouble, and when she finally finds herself in big girl jail on high bond, she will drop the ball-

JMO- IMO-MOO

I have always wondered what kind of hold he/they have on her that she hasn't broken yet. She's pretty simple I thought she would have cracked by now. When I heard the purse stealing recording I was convinced the first call was staged. jmo

[Tracian]

I have always wondered what kind of hold he/they have on her that she hasn't broken yet. She's pretty simple I thought she would have cracked by now. When I heard the purse stealing recording I was convinced the first call was staged. jmo


I don't think Misty was honest on that first call, but I don't think Ron had anything to do with it.

I do think that HaLeigh is alive though, I am holding on to that.

[baywench]

I don't think Misty was honest on that first call, but I don't think Ron had anything to do with it.

I do think that HaLeigh is alive though, I am holding on to that.

I hope you are right but I am not sure. TN's grief in the beginning made me believe she knew what happened and it was not good. I don't think Ron had anything to do with the call, his ranting made me think he didn't have anything to do with it because at first he was mad and I don't think it had sunk in that she was really gone. His emotions escalated from there. I can't help but think someone would have seen her by now, she is so easy to recognize. There would have been phone calls...something. jmo

[Tracian]

I hope you are right but I am not sure. TN's grief in the beginning made me believe she knew what happened and it was not good. I don't think Ron had anything to do with the call, his ranting made me think he didn't have anything to do with it because at first he was mad and I don't think it had sunk in that she was really gone. His emotions escalated from there. I can't help but think someone would have seen her by now, she is so easy to recognize. There would have been phone calls...something. jmo

She is recognizable, but look at Sean Hornbeck, and Jaycee Dugard...they are survivors and they are the miracles that bring hope.

I know people in CA don't even really know this case for the most part. On BNN radio, people were talking about how some in Florida don't even know about this case.

[baywench]

Before vegetables start being thrown at me....I do not believe Ron initially had anything to do with her being missing, but I think he knows more than he is saying. His decision to leave his children with Misty was the catalyst for all of this. It more likely something bad was going to happen than not with her history. Ron and TN are up to their eyeballs in the coverup but I can't figure out why. jmo

[Tracian]

Before vegetables start being thrown at me....I do not believe Ron initially had anything to do with her being missing, but I think he knows more than he is saying. His decision to leave his children with Misty was the catalyst for all of this. It more likely something bad was going to happen than not with her history. Ron and TN are up to their eyeballs in the coverup but I can't figure out why. jmo


You have a right to your opinion, but I don't believe that they are involved in a coverup.

No way would Teresa cover up something happening to HaLeigh, her pain is far to raw when she has been on NG.

[Tracian]

Because when it all comes down to it, Ron is Teresas son and they are very close, closer than most mother and son, imo, he has her name over his heart-

Whatever happened to HaLeigh was an accident and I think TN can rationalize that, but cant bear to lose both HaLeigh and Ron over something that was such an accident-

jmo


Having a tattoo with one's mothers name is not that unusual, I have seen many men have their mothers name tattooed on their arms and even on their backs and chest. (not one person in all places, LOL)

As far as an accident, if it was, IMO, neither Ron or Teresa would be going on any media appearances; they would just lay low and say nothing to draw attention to themselves.

[panman]

Before vegetables start being thrown at me....I do not believe Ron initially had anything to do with her being missing, but I think he knows more than he is saying. His decision to leave his children with Misty was the catalyst for all of this. It more likely something bad was going to happen than not with her history. Ron and TN are up to their eyeballs in the coverup but I can't figure out why. jmo

Regarding Misty and her family, I can see drugs, theft. Things along those lines. That is their history or so it seems. But not physically harming or kidnapping a child.

I also don't see Ron or TN in a cover up. If whatever happened to Haleigh had nothing to do with Ron or TN, then it makes no sense to me to try to cover something up. Wouldn't they want it out there in order to bring Haleigh home?

[baywench]

Having a tattoo with one's mothers name is not that unusual, I have seen many men have their mothers name tattooed on their arms and even on their backs and chest. (not one person in all places, LOL)

As far as an accident, if it was, IMO, neither Ron or Teresa would be going on any media appearances; they would just lay low and say nothing to draw attention to themselves.

ARGGGH I am so confused by this case. If it was an accident why would they be afraid to say? Unless Ron was there when the accident happened he wouldn't have any reason not to come forward. jmo

[Tracian]

A child is missing, they had to report the child missing, accident or not, there is a maternal side to HaLeigh, they would wonder where she was, so it would have had to be reported, I wonder if Crystal wasnt around and didnt care about her kids enough to even do visits, would we have ever known this child went missing in the first place? If they were not going on the TV and all that, that would look suspicious wouldn't it?

JMO


Reporting yes, going on TV no...Is is suspicious that Crystal and Marie are not trying to get on different shows? Nope, it is not.

[Tracian]

ARGGGH I am so confused by this case. If it was an accident why would they be afraid to say? Unless Ron was there when the accident happened he wouldn't have any reason not to come forward. jmo


That is why I don't think they are covering up. As far as we know LE says the time line is after Ron is at work; early reports had a neighbor seeing HaLeigh after Ron was gone...so presumably and accident is not possible before he left, if HaLeigh was seen alive and well after he left.

Also, we have Jr. Jr, as far as we know only offered a man in black taking his 'sissy' not that 'daddy hurt sissy' so again, Ron being involved seems to be impossible, with what we know, some can speculate, but with what the media has gathered from LE, the accident scenerio including Ron seems not to fit.

And to sound like a broken record, LE is not saying anything about anyone except Misty. The last 'new' information we got in this case came from Tommy; 'Misty was not home'

[Tracian]

Right, but if the father of the missing child whose home she went missing from was refusing to talk, it would be very suspicious, and honestly, there was a time period after the wedding, to Rons arrest where he didn't do interviews, he didn't call the LE about the status of his missing daughters case, I am sorry, but to me that is unacceptable-

jmo


We don't know what LE has talked to Ron about. LE has not said anything about Ron at all, only about Misty. The new information came from Tommy..

When LE says Ron refuses to answer questions, then I will have to reconsider, but so far LE has not said that, and Ron and his attorney spent time with LE in regards to the phone calls just before Ron divorced Misty, and Tommy admitted (or at least claims) that he went to the house, and no one was home.

[tia marie]

Probably haunting his dreams too- maybe if he would just come clean about the events of Feb 9, 2009, he may be able to breathe easier, huh?

Anyways, has the police report came out yet about the 4 wheeler that got stole that Ron reported missing yesterday morning? Kinda jabs in my crawl he can call 911 about a 4 wheeler and not about his daughter, cause he made Misty do all the dirty work, imo- jmo-moo

So far, no police report as yet.

This is the best I could find. Unfortunately the scanner is in real time and unless you pay a monthly fee you can't get rebroadcasts.

Two things stand out for me.

1.. Ron can call 911 about a "stolen 4 wheeler, but can't call about his "stolen" daughter.

2..So when did he acquire this 4wheeler? Is this something new?



What a mess Sounds like a Delta responding got into a wreck.

OK let me try this. At 8:21 am Dispatcher calls 1228 and asks him to 2-51 be enroute to Signal 76. She tells him that Waleka 1 tried to call in and they can't reach him by radio. That he went to 216 4th ave regarding the signal 40 of a 4 wheeler the complainant being Ronald Cummings and he was irate with the operator taking the call. 1228 enroute code. 1230 signs on enroute code also. Sierra 1188 signs on and asks dispatcher to call Waleka 1's phone and the complainant to ascertain 10-13 status.

Sierra 1188 cell phone not answered on phone with complainant checking 10-13 1230 is in the area Dispatcher says as per grandmother that all is OK. 10-77. Sierra 1188 also responds and asks for LE tec.

Delta 1225 needs 10-71 involved in signal 4 accident. Delta 1208 almost there. Unit to check on Delta 1225 comes back he has head injury and woman in other car back injury. Calls for ambulance. In front of Palatka Buffet. Told to notify someone don't know who . Other Deltas arrive on scene of accident involving.

Poppa 1228 who had left to respond to accident returned back to Waleka 1 to the missing 4 wheeler.


**** I'll be glad to furnish the scanner codes if needed to decipher the 911 call.

moo

[Tracian]

I read after Ron was arrested he admitted he had not contact LE in months, he didn't know what else he could say because he was at work, so that came straight from him, not LE- JMO

We also dont know if Ron really did ask Tommy that night to go check, and we dont know if Tommy called Ron back, LE wont talk about that, so lets say Tommy called Ron back and said Misty wasn't home- that would be a big thing- cops wont comment- they dont come out and say Tommys lying, they just decline to address it,they say they wont get in between back and forth calls- to me back and forth means more than one, but thats just me-

It will all come out at trial-

JMO


Right, LE will not comment on any of this, except to say, Misty is the one that they have a problem with; it is her family they traveled out of state to interview; it is her family that they are questioning in regards to Haleigh while they have them in custody.

[Tracian]

Right, but that does not mean the family is complicit, they have named Misty as basically a POI, it would not be responsible to not interview her family many times-

jmo


Right now, as far as we know, Tommy puts himself at the house the night; after seven months of saying absoultely nothing about it...that seems odd if this was completely innocent.

[baywench]

And he also was able to call the cops when Tim Croslin called him a bad name all the way from Mass- so he defiantly knows how to call 911-

Ron has impulse control problems and rage issues imo. I don't understand why he is nasty to 911 operators. It makes no sense. jmo

[Tracian]

Or he was lying to make his sister mad, or to get bail reduced- Fact is though, Ron did call him that night, and after months of saying he had no reason to believe that Misty left that night, it shows he did think maybe she left the trailer that night-so that seems odd too-

jmo

What Ron has said to the media is nothing, what matters is what he told LE.

If Ron called Tommy and either asked if Misty was there, or to check on her, we have no idea if Tommy, as you said, called him back, or if he did call back and say, "Yeah, she is home, sleeping"

Which is possible, because IIRC, Ron did say he asked Misty "What are you doing up?" (gonna as IMO, cause I don't remember which interview)

[tia marie]

ARGGGH I am so confused by this case. If it was an accident why would they be afraid to say? Unless Ron was there when the accident happened he wouldn't have any reason not to come forward. jmo

Many have said that Crystal was responsible due to her child support arrearages and the pending court notice she received around the time Haleigh went missing. How about it being a tragic accident and Ron knowing a court date was pending didn't want to have to report his child was missing on his watch. It best be set up as a "stolen* child.

Damage control, imo.

[tia marie]

What Ron has said to the media is nothing, what matters is what he told LE.

If Ron called Tommy and either asked if Misty was there, or to check on her, we have no idea if Tommy, as you said, called him back, or if he did call back and say, "Yeah, she is home, sleeping"

Which is possible, because IIRC, Ron did say he asked Misty "What are you doing up?" (gonna as IMO, cause I don't remember which interview)

He did ask Misty "what are you doing up"? Wow... that's a new one for me.

[Tracian]

Ron has impulse control problems and rage issues imo. I don't understand why he is nasty to 911 operators. It makes no sense. jmo


I saw a woman call her husband everything but her husband when he was unable to reach one of their children that died in a fire; and she was not much more friendly to the hospital staff, demanding they save her daughter, threatening them.

His reaction, is not that out of the ordinary, not saying it is completely the norm either.

[tia marie]

Ron has impulse control problems and rage issues imo. I don't understand why he is nasty to 911 operators. It makes no sense. jmo

Wasn't Teresa Neves a 911 dispatcher at one time? Misplaced anger perhaps?


moo

[Tracian]

And he also was able to call the cops when Tim Croslin called him a bad name all the way from Mass- so he defiantly knows how to call 911-


Did you ever call 911 to report a crime that you were not a witness to, with the witness standing right there?

Misty is the only person that could tell 911 what HaLeigh was wearing, when she put HaLeigh to bed, when she went to bed, when the last time she saw HaLeigh.

[Tracian]

But the point is, Ron had reason to believe Misty was not home that night, if you believe his lawyer- Ron lying to the public, or leaving that tidbit out, is very troublesome, so are his dozens of phone calls in a short span of time to Misty, he was worried about something, and then his daughter is never seen again?

It raises a lot of red flags if one is truly interested in finding out what happened the night she vanished-

jmo


Ron owes the public nothing, he owes LE the truth, and thus far there is no evidence or statement from LE saying that he has not given them the truth; Misty on the other hand is a different story.

[TaraCrazyHair]

What Ron has said to the media is nothing, what matters is what he told LE.

If Ron called Tommy and either asked if Misty was there, or to check on her, we have no idea if Tommy, as you said, called him back, or if he did call back and say, "Yeah, she is home, sleeping"

Which is possible, because IIRC, Ron did say he asked Misty "What are you doing up?" (gonna as IMO, cause I don't remember which interview)

I thought he said he thought it odd she was up when standing at the front door as he pulled in the driveway ... but she had just been calling his cell so he knew she was up... ?

[Tracian]

Did Ron witness the 4 wheeler going missing? He called 911 right? He is HaLeighs dad, instead of saying F her birthday, he could have aided instead of hindered-


a four wheeler is not quite as emotional as coming home from work and finding out your child is missing, you can't even compare the two.

Not only that, I have not heard him on the 911 call in regards to the 4 wheeler.

I have seen first hand people in emotional trauma, it is impossible to gauge how they should or should not react. Some go into a zombie like state, others panic, other get angry, any or all emotions are not right or wrong.

[Tracian]

If the cops suspect Ron, do you think they are going to come out and tell him, they know him- hes volatile- they tell the public hes cleared, but tell his lawyer hes on a list- LE will not tip their hand, as long as Ron thinks they are his friends, the better till they arrest him-

jmo


So the police are afraid of Ron, to the point that they are not going to protect Jr. or tip their hand...

No one has been cleared, that has been explained, until LE solves the case no one is completely off the list.

Jaycee Dugard's stepfather has lived under suspicion until she was found.

[TaraCrazyHair]

Having a tattoo with one's mothers name is not that unusual, I have seen many men have their mothers name tattooed on their arms and even on their backs and chest. (not one person in all places, LOL)

As far as an accident, if it was, IMO, neither Ron or Teresa would be going on any media appearances; they would just lay low and say nothing to draw attention to themselves.


I have seen tattoos with the wording Mom .... not so much the mother's first name unless they have passed on

Not that it matters

(shrug)

[Tracian]

Well, I heard Misty call 911 after being mugged and she was more upset over that than a missing human being she was responsible, raises quite the eyebrow! Cant wait to hear the audio, hearing though that Ron was rude to someone who is only trying to help him is disgusting-

jmo

Never work in an ER when a child is brought in if you find him that disgusting.

I am not even remotely defending Misty.

[TaraCrazyHair]

a four wheeler is not quite as emotional as coming home from work and finding out your child is missing, you can't even compare the two.

Not only that, I have not heard him on the 911 call in regards to the 4 wheeler.

I have seen first hand people in emotional trauma, it is impossible to gauge how they should or should not react. Some go into a zombie like state, others panic, other get angry, any or all emotions are not right or wrong.

That is what is odd to me about Misty's two 911 calls ... very different reactions to two very different circumstances

[Tracian]

I have seen tattoos with the wording Mom .... not so much the mother's first name unless they have passed on

Not that it matters

(shrug)


I don't even know if he has that tat...First I heard of it was here.

[Tracian]

They aren't fortunetellers, they cant swoop in and get the kid based on I feel statements and what if's- I am sure though it would be a different story if Ronald wasn't living with Annette, as long as shes around I dont think anything is going to happen to Jr, its when Ron lives on his own his kids come up stolen-

jmo


They have had countless accusations by various 'respected' people from what has been released in the media, and so far investigations have brought nothing in fact.

[KaraokeDiva]

<snipped>She's pretty simple I thought she would have cracked by now. I think Misty is pretty simple... She has learned that she simply does not have to speak or cooperate with investigators.

jmo

[TaraCrazyHair]

I don't even know if he has that tat...First I heard of it was here.

He does

Theresa across the heart ... it was shown when he got the leg tattoos of Haleigh and Jr

[TaraCrazyHair]

I think Misty is pretty simple... She has learned that she simply does not have to speak or cooperate with investigators.

jmo

Hopefully that simpleness will get complicated

[Tracian]

He does

Theresa across the heart ... it was shown when he got the leg tattoos of Haleigh and Jr


So it seems he gets tats with names, different strokes I guess, but I bet he is not the only man in the world that has a tat like that and it does not denote anything nefarious.

[TaraCrazyHair]

So it seems he gets tats with names, different strokes I guess, but I bet he is not the only man in the world that has a tat like that and it does not denote anything nefarious.

Like I said -- does not really matter to me

Personally, under the circumstances, I would have placed my missing daughter's name right by mom's and not on a leg but that is just me

[TaraCrazyHair]

I do not think LE is scared of Ron one single bit??

(Still reading)

[TaraCrazyHair]

I really never thought about a person selling off a child for drugs/drug debt until Shaniya

Now I realize anything can happen

[Diamond1]

She is recognizable, but look at Sean Hornbeck, and Jaycee Dugard...they are survivors and they are the miracles that bring hope.

I know people in CA don't even really know this case for the most part. On BNN radio, people were talking about how some in Florida don't even know about this case.

They were older than Haleigh when they were taken.

[Diamond1]

I think Misty is pretty simple... She has learned that she simply does not have to speak or cooperate with investigators.

jmo

Ronald taught her that. Exercise the right to remain silent. Which is what he did when he was arrested after he attacked Tommy in his truck.mo

[FoxySly]

Right, but the family arrests are for things like drugs, thats stuff they are doing and getting in trouble- if the cops were so fixated on them, there would be no bail for anyone of them, they would be so happy to have them as guests at the Putnam CO hotel- that really hasn't happened-

And you are right, when Misty does tell the truth, It will be a great day, considering she knows the child is deceased, per her voice test-

jmo-moo-imo

BBM

Please prove a creditable link to what you have stated & I have bold TIA,

I have followed this case since day 1 and I have NEVER read or heard that.

You told another poster who also asked for a link that "maybe they should google it". I did & can NOT find any creditable links.

If you can not link such a vile statement it should NOT be posted, thankfully Coldwater does not allow nasty RUMORS.

Sly
waiting for your creditable link
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[panman]

Ronald taught her that. Exercise the right to remain silent. Which is what he did when he was arrested after he attacked Tommy in his truck.mo

Ron taught her that? How does anyone know that? Maybe she learned it from her own family. Either way, I don't know and neither does anyone else for that matter.

[panman]

BBM

Please prove a creditable link to what you have stated & I have bold TIA,

I have followed this case since day 1 and I have NEVER read or heard that.

You told another poster who also asked for a link that "maybe they should google it". I did & can NOT find any creditable links.

If you can not link such a vile statement it should NOT be posted, thankfully Coldwater does not allow nasty RUMORS.

Sly
waiting for your creditable link
~

Its just not worth it Foxy.

[Diamond1]

Ron taught her that? How does anyone know that? Maybe she learned it from her own family. Either way, I don't know and neither does anyone else for that matter.

Have you ever seen a Croslin on TV not talking? They talk. However, Ronald never said a word when he was walking out of the jail on bond. The camera crew followed him to the car asking questions and he said nothing.

[KaraokeDiva]

He does

Theresa across the heart ... it was shown when he got the leg tattoos of Haleigh and Jr
In the grand scheme of things the tats are probably not important...but I've never known a man to get his mother's name tattooed on his body. A tat that says "Mom", yes...but the proper name of his mother, no... And across the heart while his child only gets his leg below the knee?

My lip does an involuntary sneer at the thought....

Diamond...I don't know who taught Misty to keep her mouth shut. I suspect it's a lesson learned before meeting Ron. But that doesn't mean I think Ron is an innocent either...

[panman]

Have you ever seen a Croslin on TV not talking? They talk. However, Ronald never said a word when he was walking out of the jail on bond. The camera crew followed him to the car asking questions and he said nothing.

Its not a monkey see monkey do kind of thing. Its still a free country. He, nor anyone else, has to speak to media.
We the public want more, no law yet that says anyone has to talk.

[TaraCrazyHair]

In the grand scheme of things the tats are probably not important...but I've never known a man to get his mother's name tattooed on his body. A tat that says "Mom", yes...but the proper name of his mother, no... And across the heart while his child only gets his leg below the knee?

My lip does an involuntary sneer at the thought....

Diamond...I don't know who taught Misty to keep her mouth shut. I suspect it's a lesson learned before meeting Ron. But that doesn't mean I think Ron is an innocent either...


The leg tat bothered me a bit too -- but I am not in this man's head

As far as Misty keeping her mouth shut? It happened after a new Det was on the case but before she had a lawyer

[Diamond1]

Its not a monkey see monkey do kind of thing. Its still a free country. He, nor anyone else, has to speak to media.
We the public want more, no law yet that says anyone has to talk.

That's true. IIRC, he exercised his right to remain silent when he was arrested and that is the point. mo

[Diamond1]

The leg tat bothered me a bit too -- but I am not in this man's head

As far as Misty keeping her mouth shut? It happened after a new Det was on the case but before she had a lawyer


Ronald Cummings models tatts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7sDCXuZ69I

[TaraCrazyHair]

Looking at some old stuff ~~ Can anyone confirm Ron told Tim if he had $35,000 he could get Haleigh back?

[Palm Palm]

Looking at some old stuff ~~ Can anyone confirm Ron told Tim if he had $35,000 he could get Haleigh back?

I always wondered about that.

[TaraCrazyHair]

I always wondered about that.

So he did say it?
:confused:

[Tracian]

Looking at some old stuff ~~ Can anyone confirm Ron told Tim if he had $35,000 he could get Haleigh back?

IIRC, Hank Sr. told Tim Miller, that Ron told him that.

[Palm Palm]

Right, but the family arrests are for things like drugs, thats stuff they are doing and getting in trouble- if the cops were so fixated on them, there would be no bail for anyone of them, they would be so happy to have them as guests at the Putnam CO hotel- that really hasn't happened-

And you are right, when Misty does tell the truth, It will be a great day, considering she knows the child is deceased, per her voice test-

jmo-moo-imo
What......when and who said as per her voice test Misty knows the child is deceased?? I missed that one some how!!

[Palm Palm]

So he did say it?
:confused:

No! I was saying I had the same question as you.

[TaraCrazyHair]

IIRC, Hank Sr. told Tim Miller, that Ron told him that.

Second hand then

Thanks

So odd to say that if he did

To pay off somebody or hire somebody

[Palm Palm]

IIRC, Hank Sr. told Tim Miller, that Ron told him that.
Oh.
How much is the reward again? TIA!

[Tracian]

Oh.
How much is the reward again? TIA!

30,000 I think.

[Tracian]

Second hand then

Thanks

So odd to say that if he did

To pay off somebody or hire somebody



With Hank bringing the information, I would not count on it, two of his family are going down for theft of an old blind man, he is has drug charges pending, hardly the stuff that I would base any truth in the utterances.

[TaraCrazyHair]

With Hank bringing the information, I would not count on it, two of his family are going down for theft of an old blind man, he is has drug charges pending, hardly the stuff that I would base any truth in the utterances.

Sometimes the dumb speak louder than the smart

[Tracian]

Sometimes the dumb speak louder than the smart


And sometimes dumb is just that dumb. I just look at the facts in front of me...no honor in this group.

[Palm Palm]

30,000 I think.

I was thinking about that much. Funny how it is right around the figure Hank Sr (guess it was him) would mention.

[Tracian]

I was thinking about that much. Funny how it is right around the figure Hank Sr (guess it was him) would mention.

It was Hank, told it to Tim Miller, who shared this information with TJhart, IIRC.

[Palm Palm]

It was Hank, told it to Tim Miller, who shared this information with TJhart, IIRC.

TY
If it were some how true, then seems like whoever had info would tell it to LE and collect the reward.

IIRC, seems like Tim contacted Ron and said he had a check made out for that amount and that he (Ron) could come and get it. I had no idea that the info came from Hank Sr till tonight.

This whole thing is so confusing.

[Tracian]

TY
If it were some how true, then seems like whoever had info would tell it to LE and collect the reward.

IIRC, seems like Tim contacted Ron and said he had a check made out for that amount and that he (Ron) could come and get it. I had no idea that the info came from Hank Sr till tonight.

This whole thing is so confusing.

Tim did get the check, from what TJH reported according to his interview; to the best of my memory, Tim never stated what he told Ron or what Ron said to him.

Ron did say he never told Hank Sr. that, why would he? At this point Hank Sr. accused him of attempted murder, then recanted.

Of course when Hank told Tim this, it was just around the time Tim announced that Misty failed his testing...

[TaraCrazyHair]

TY
If it were some how true, then seems like whoever had info would tell it to LE and collect the reward.

IIRC, seems like Tim contacted Ron and said he had a check made out for that amount and that he (Ron) could come and get it. I had no idea that the info came from Hank Sr till tonight.

This whole thing is so confusing.


Didn't somebody say Ron mentioned the money to get her back when Geraldo was there?

[Tracian]

Didn't somebody say Ron mentioned the money to get her back when Geraldo was there?


I would like to hear it, Geraldo is a not someone I would trust.

[TaraCrazyHair]

I would like to hear it, Geraldo is a not someone I would trust.

Understand -- but if it WAS said not once but twice, wouldn't your eyebrows raise up a bit?

[Tracian]

Understand -- but if it WAS said not once but twice, wouldn't your eyebrows raise up a bit?


Nope. If he took the check from Tim, that would have me, I would have to know the context of what was said in; Geraldo's tape edit, he has ruined lives before with his 'investigative' reporting.

[TaraCrazyHair]

Nope. If he took the check from Tim, that would have me, I would have to know the context of what was said in; Geraldo's tape edit, he has ruined lives before with his 'investigative' reporting.


To even suggest money would bring his daughter back??

[Tracian]

To even suggest money would bring his daughter back??

Why do you think that rewards are offered in these cases? Are we going to blame all families that offer rewards? Or is that just for Ron Cummings?

What about the money raised with Haleighbug? That was on the back of a missing child...why is that ignored?

[TaraCrazyHair]

Why do you think that rewards are offered in these cases? Are we going to blame all families that offer rewards? Or is that just for Ron Cummings?

What about the money raised with Haleighbug? That was on the back of a missing child...why is that ignored?

From what I understand .. and that is why I asked ... it was not in reference to reward money

Sounded more like if he paid up

Never thought about drug money in this case because small potatoes but after Shanyia ... who knows!!

[TaraCrazyHair]

Or Tommy. :shrug:

Personally -- I think Tommy told the truth

[Tracian]

From what I understand .. and that is why I asked ... it was not in reference to reward money

Sounded more like if he paid up

Never thought about drug money in this case because small potatoes but after Shanyia ... who knows!!


I think that it was Geraldo's fantasy, again, I would like to see exactly what was said if it was on Geraldo.

As far as Hank's account...let's talk about drug charges, and robbing blind people that have been kind to you...oh, and then there is busted for drugs after dropping your kids off at school, beating up your dad over a 'bag of DVDs' and your own child being terrified of you...and that is not Ron...that is all the Croslins.

Some (not saying you) want Ron guilty so badly they are willing to give up justice for HaLeigh...just because they want to be 'right'.

[Acey]

Probably haunting his dreams too- maybe if he would just come clean about the events of Feb 9, 2009, he may be able to breathe easier, huh?

Anyways, has the police report came out yet about the 4 wheeler that got stole that Ron reported missing yesterday morning? Kinda jabs in my crawl he can call 911 about a 4 wheeler and not about his daughter, cause he made Misty do all the dirty work, imo- jmo-moo

IMO, having your child missing is a terrible nightmare that I don't think you or I, or any of us would want to live through. Keeping HaLeigh's name in the news is very important and hopefully she will be found soon and returned to her family.

It's been reported numerous times that HaLeigh's father Ron has been interviewed by LE multiple times and LE has stated he is not a suspect.

What does a stolen 4-wheeler have to do with HaLeigh's disappearance. Can you provide a link with the connection? TIA

[TaraCrazyHair]

IMO, having your child missing is a terrible nightmare that I don't think you or I, or any of us would want to live through. Keeping HaLeigh's name in the news is very important and hopefully she will be found soon and returned to her family.

It's been reported numerous times that HaLeigh's father Ron has been interviewed by LE multiple times and LE has stated he is not a suspect.

What does a stolen 4-wheeler have to do with HaLeigh's disappearance. Can you provide a link with the connection? TIA


"Not considered at this time"

[TaraCrazyHair]

No way on this earth do I believe TN or Ron "knows" or is "covering" anything to do with HaLeigh's abduction..

MOO

Theresa in my mind -- no

Ron? I still have my suspicions

[Tracian]

IMO, having your child missing is a terrible nightmare that I don't think you or I, or any of us would want to live through. Keeping HaLeigh's name in the news is very important and hopefully she will be found soon and returned to her family.

It's been reported numerous times that HaLeigh's father Ron has been interviewed by LE multiple times and LE has stated he is not a suspect.

What does a stolen 4-wheeler have to do with HaLeigh's disappearance. Can you provide a link with the connection? TIA


Aside from unverified scanner chatter this 4 wheeler thing has not been proven...but when has a lynch mob ever needed 'proof'

[W_D_1]

Looking at some old stuff ~~ Can anyone confirm Ron told Tim if he had $35,000 he could get Haleigh back?


Hank Sr told Tim Miller that Ron said that.

[FoxySly]

Or Tommy. :shrug:

Yup, EVERYONE that knows something should tell the TRUTH!

Dang it, I just can't understand anyone hiding info because they were doing drugs, cheating, stealing whatever that is more important then coming clean & telling all they know about ANYTHING that has ANYTHING to do with precious HaLeigh missing... unless they did it.

:sad:
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Sly

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[Acey]

Or she really was passed out cold and has no idea what he did with HaLeigh- except I have a hard time believing that, even though thats my first instinct, because something was going on when he was trying frantically to get ahold of her that night, I mean thats not right- and the fact Ron never mentioned that, all he has said was that he had no reason to think Misty wasnt home that night, but if hes calling Tommy an hour after HaLeighs bedtime, looking for Misty, that kind of contradicts what he has said all along-

I dont think Ron and Misty have broken up at all except on paper-

JMO

Once someone is arrested all the documents will be released. We'll then be able to find out what everyone told LE and when. At this time we don't know if Ron told LE on 2/10 that he and Misty had a fight or if he never told LE until months later. We just don't know but LE does.

I'm sure LE is also looking at the pattern of phone calls between Ron and Misty. Maybe it was the 1st time numerous calls were made to her, or it could have been a weekly or bi-weekly occurrence whenever they had a spat. Again, we just don't know but LE does.

[W_D_1]

Right, all I am saying is Jr is safe as long as Rons guns are locked up and theres an adult like Annette around to keep him safe- jmo



Tim Miller claimed there was an assault rifle in the same room with Junior, not locked up but laying in a closet. He also claimed he told LE about it. So using your logic....why has LE left Junior with Ron and not assisted DCF with getting him away from Ron if they suspect him? And why aren't they focusing on his family? Or his friends? Why has everything they have said and done been aimed at Misty?

[titanfan217]

TY
If it were some how true, then seems like whoever had info would tell it to LE and collect the reward.

IIRC, seems like Tim contacted Ron and said he had a check made out for that amount and that he (Ron) could come and get it. I had no idea that the info came from Hank Sr till tonight.

This whole thing is so confusing.

And about that time we heard that "Larry" had HaLeigh according to some friend's child (I think).

[titanfan217]

Looks like there was a good discussion tonight.

Sorry I missed it.

This is OT but feel I should warn you anyhow. There is a new computer virus out and I got it today. If you get any notice that you may have a computer virus and need some super-duper anti-virus, beware. It came on my computer while I was away from it so could not stop it in time.

[Acey]

So far, no police report as yet.

This is the best I could find. Unfortunately the scanner is in real time and unless you pay a monthly fee you can't get rebroadcasts.

Two things stand out for me.

1.. Ron can call 911 about a "stolen 4 wheeler, but can't call about his "stolen" daughter.

2..So when did he acquire this 4wheeler? Is this something new?



What a mess Sounds like a Delta responding got into a wreck.

OK let me try this. At 8:21 am Dispatcher calls 1228 and asks him to 2-51 be enroute to Signal 76. She tells him that Waleka 1 tried to call in and they can't reach him by radio. That he went to 216 4th ave regarding the signal 40 of a 4 wheeler the complainant being Ronald Cummings and he was irate with the operator taking the call. 1228 enroute code. 1230 signs on enroute code also. Sierra 1188 signs on and asks dispatcher to call Waleka 1's phone and the complainant to ascertain 10-13 status.

Sierra 1188 cell phone not answered on phone with complainant checking 10-13 1230 is in the area Dispatcher says as per grandmother that all is OK. 10-77. Sierra 1188 also responds and asks for LE tec.

Delta 1225 needs 10-71 involved in signal 4 accident. Delta 1208 almost there. Unit to check on Delta 1225 comes back he has head injury and woman in other car back injury. Calls for ambulance. In front of Palatka Buffet. Told to notify someone don't know who . Other Deltas arrive on scene of accident involving.

Poppa 1228 who had left to respond to accident returned back to Waleka 1 to the missing 4 wheeler.


**** I'll be glad to furnish the scanner codes if needed to decipher the 911 call.

moo

Can you provide a link that this is related to HaLeigh's disappearance? TIA

[Palm Palm]

Yup, EVERYONE that knows something should tell the TRUTH!

Dang it, I just can't understand anyone hiding info because they were doing drugs, cheating, stealing whatever that is more important then coming clean & telling all they know about ANYTHING that has ANYTHING to do with precious HaLeigh missing... unless they did it.

:sad:
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I agree.
Or if they were part of the cover up and feel equally guity.

[Palm Palm]

And about that time we heard that "Larry" had HaLeigh according to some friend's child (I think).

I dont recall that part.

[Palm Palm]

Tim Miller claimed there was an assault rifle in the same room with Junior, not locked up but laying in a closet. He also claimed he told LE about it. So using your logic....why has LE left Junior with Ron and not assisted DCF with getting him away from Ron if they suspect him? And why aren't they focusing on his family? Or his friends? Why has everything they have said and done been aimed at Misty?

Every time something new comes up, it all just adds to more questions.
Will any of it ever make sense to anyone besides the guilty party?

[W_D_1]

I dont recall that part.



IIRC the young daughter of a friend of Ron's told him some man named Larry had Haleigh. I don't recall all of the details but a search here should bring something up about it.

[Palm Palm]

Understand -- but if it WAS said not once but twice, wouldn't your eyebrows raise up a bit?

Yes.
However I do not recall anything like that when Geraldo was there. Perhaps Geraldo went there more than once and I missed it. I just remember this check talk coming out in summer and it never made much sense to me.

[Palm Palm]

IIRC the young daughter of a friend of Ron's told him some man named Larry had Haleigh. I don't recall all of the details but a search here should bring something up about it.

Thanks for that W!!

[Acey]

With Hank bringing the information, I would not count on it, two of his family are going down for theft of an old blind man, he is has drug charges pending, hardly the stuff that I would base any truth in the utterances.


Putnam County Haleigh task force investigator was quoted as saying:
“I don’t consider druggies credible,and heaven knows we’ve got a lot of those down here. They’re like interviewing rocks, memory’s not very good.” (AH 4-27-09 article)

[Motomom]

I don't think Ron had anything to do with the disappearance but there is no way he slept with Misty all this time and they didn't have any pillow talk about what happened that night. Why doesn't he call her out once and for all. Why doesn't he give a detailed account of what condition the MH was in and what beds where slept in? He knows alot imo

Who do you want him to call her out in front of?

Nobody here knows exactly what information he has given LE.

He doesn't have to give US this information, only LE.
I think he had plenty of conversation with Misty about Haleigh, it's only logical. I bet he's called her to the table a time or two.. Obviously it has got him no where but from that last article I read, sounds like this family really believe her to be alive.

[Motomom]

I tend to agree; however, I think if Misty had anything on Ron, she would have spilled her guts already, especially with the charges her brother has pending against him.

Misty not 'turning' on Ron, IMO, means she has nothing to turn on him with.

I agree with you Tracian. No reason why she wouldn't have told by now IMO.

[grammie/va]

How can one little girl be missing for so long? Is Putman County still searching and investigating? The LE is the only thing we have to trust, we are in trouble, I'm afraid on this case. There has to be something more going on in PC

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[FrankieBones1]

Yes.
However I do not recall anything like that when Geraldo was there. Perhaps Geraldo went there more than once and I missed it. I just remember this check talk coming out in summer and it never made much sense to me.
I doubt Geraldo ever said the same thing that Hank Sr. told Tim what Ronald Cummings said.

[Motomom]

I doubt Geraldo ever said the same thing that Hank Sr. told Tim what Ronald Cummings said.

The problem seems to be that you can't believe any body in this mess. I trust none of these "reporters". I think some of what they say may be accurate, but you have to take everything with a grain of salt as far as I'm concerned. The people involved aren't much better either, and it just depends on who you can identify more with, as to who you believe more. I don't think LE has done a stellar job either.

[W_D_1]

I just wonder if TN still thinks that Misti is the best girlfriend that Ron has ever had? She made that statement on National TV and I have to wonder if she regrets it now or feels guilty about saying such a thing.

I still believe that Misti was right when she said that it was like a dream and that there were 4 people in the trailer that night. Misti, Ron, TN and GGMS. I have to wonder how they got Junior out of the trailer and somewhere else so fast as well. I haven't seen anything that says he was present when LE got there.

There is just so much about this whole thing that doesn't make sense to me. Like the two phone pings from Ron's phone. If he called Misti like he said that he did there would have been more pings than just 2. I also don't understand him not going straight home when he didn't get her on the phone the third or fourth time he called. Especially with his knowing that he had a daughter that had special medical needs due to her medical condition. Not even to mention that they had Junior to a heart doctor before Haleigh went missing.



There is one name redacted on the police report. IMO and most likely it is Junior. If he wasn't there that night that would have come out long ago.

Witness/complainant information #5

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/02/13/putnam.pdf

[4Kids]

Wow...I thought I was on the wrong thread and reading one from 6 months ago.

Sad, that this case is no more than a rehash for all posters here who are interested in finding Haleigh.

One question I have which begs to be asked;

LE....WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO CALL MISTY IN FOR QUESTIONING? SHE IS THE KEY, RIGHT? WELL? HELLO? echo , echo.

IMO

[Texas48]

Sad....But we still have hope.
HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings...:wub:

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

[baywench]

Who do you want him to call her out in front of?

Nobody here knows exactly what information he has given LE.

He doesn't have to give US this information, only LE.
I think he had plenty of conversation with Misty about Haleigh, it's only logical. I bet he's called her to the table a time or two.. Obviously it has got him no where but from that last article I read, sounds like this family really believe her to be alive.


Thank you for clearing that up for me. I will stop sitting by the phone waiting for them to call me. How about on any one of the talk shows he is on where he sits there like a lump of clay and says nothing other than "I don't know".... I don't quite understand your point other than calling ME out. If there is one I guess I missed it. Bottom line is Ron knows more than he is saying, I am not sure that he has told LE, he needs to be at the forefront of keeping Haleigh's case alive. To my knowledge he has not been doing that. If this was all a tragic accident I think one of them would have come forward. Misty just needs to say it was an accident. i am not sure that I believe that Ron and Misty are really estranged. Which is just another strange part of this. jmo

[tia marie]

Aside from unverified scanner chatter this 4 wheeler thing has not been proven...but when has a lynch mob ever needed 'proof'

What "lynch mob" are you referring to? I happen to believe that most who visit here just want to know what happened to Haleigh. Other than Mrs. Sykes, if her visit account is true, Ron and Misty where the last people who were in the presence of Haleigh's last hours at Green Ln. IMO, seems neither has been exactly forthcoming about those hours.

Would you, as a parent accept the answers Misty has provided to that evening, and marry that person within thirty days of her story?

moo

[*Pinky*]

I agree. This is so horrible, to have to try to put on a brave face for Jr. while your heart is being torn out.

I am sure we all pray for a Miracle in Satsuma!

I just stop by to check. I see there is not much new but I will read back. I sure wish for a miricle.

[TaraCrazyHair]

I dont believe they have broken up at all- Misty does need to just come out and say it was an accident, because I think thats what happened here, and there was fear of losing custody of Junior over this accident- it was some kind of accident that was caused by something that could get someone in trouble, I kind of think it has to do with sedating the children for bedtime- Maybe this was a normal practice and after awhile HaLeigh built up a tolerance and it required more, and she couldnt take it physically- I dont know-

jmo

You think they are keeping it on the side?

[TaraCrazyHair]

Thank you for clearing that up for me. I will stop sitting by the phone waiting for them to call me. How about on any one of the talk shows he is on where he sits there like a lump of clay and says nothing other than "I don't know".... I don't quite understand your point other than calling ME out. If there is one I guess I missed it. Bottom line is Ron knows more than he is saying, I am not sure that he has told LE, he needs to be at the forefront of keeping Haleigh's case alive. To my knowledge he has not been doing that. If this was all a tragic accident I think one of them would have come forward. Misty just needs to say it was an accident. i am not sure that I believe that Ron and Misty are really estranged. Which is just another strange part of this. jmo

I think Ron wants it all to go away

(shrug)

And for the most part -- it has

[TaraCrazyHair]

Their relationship? If so yes, I think they are still very much together but are hoping the interest goes away and they can be together and go places without people asking them questions about haLeigh and looking at them and stuff- jmo


Where could they go in FLA where nobody would know thwm?

[TaraCrazyHair]

Well, after they got married, we didnt hear about them at all for over 5 months- they seem to be content staying around the homestead and doing stuff like mud bogging, I really never thought they were a social couple ala Brad and Angelina or anything- Rons not working, she isnt doing anything, there are lots of opportunities to rendezvous- jmo

Well main media never said much but people in the area did to boards

[baywench]

I think Ron wants it all to go away

(shrug)

And for the most part -- it has

Ron does seem to be able to compartmentalize pretty well doesn't he? My daughter is missing....I'm going to marry Misty. I just can't figure out what in the world Ron has a chip on his shoulder for. Millions of people care about his child and think about her daily. jmo

[TaraCrazyHair]

Ron does seem to be able to compartmentalize pretty well doesn't he? My daughter is missing....I'm going to marry Misty. I just can't figure out what in the world Ron has a chip on his shoulder for. Millions of people care about his child and think about her daily. jmo

He has a "don't give a crap" attitude and as long as he has it, how can others keep it going?

(shrug)

[TaraCrazyHair]

Ok, well, then they really are over, just throwing it out there, you can only have so many observers inside a trailer- its always possible they are seeing each other on the down low, people talk, so how come theres been no word or picture or name of the new gal Ron has allegedly been seeing?

I dont believe the hype, thats all-

jmo

What new girl?

[Palm Palm]

What new girl?

I want to know the answer to that one myself!

[tia marie]

One would think if Teresa and Ron think Misty is all that, they would consider how Junior feels losing Misty in his life, along with Haleigh. Isn't he suffering another loss?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ca251Iv_sFk

[W_D_1]

What new girl?


Just another baseless rumor.

[tia marie]

Just another baseless rumor.

You really need to provide us with a spread sheet to let us know what days AH is credible.

last weekend on my radio show, investigative journalist Art Harris dropped a bombshell on my program that Ronald Cummings has a new girlfriend. Apparently she is a stripper.


Levi Page Radio Broadcast.
moo

[HenLee]

I dont believe they have broken up at all- Misty does need to just come out and say it was an accident, because I think thats what happened here, and there was fear of losing custody of Junior over this accident- it was some kind of accident that was caused by something that could get someone in trouble, I kind of think it has to do with sedating the children for bedtime- Maybe this was a normal practice and after awhile HaLeigh built up a tolerance and it required more, and she couldnt take it physically- I dont know-

jmoMisty should just come out and say it was a accident, because YOU think that is what happened?? I want who ever abducted to stand trial and if she is deceased, burn in hell along with all who has ever harmed a Innocent child.
I think LE needs to get their lazy butts over to Baker County and do some investigating. Lots of hunters in that area. KWIM?Yes I did see you JMO but many who hates the Cummings has the same opinion because of a ATTORNEY who went on a hate rage against the whole Cummings family and damn anyone who should disagree with her technique of making her client or associates look Innocent.
Justice is finding the true abductor and I hope anyone who cares about this child feels the same.

[5boxersmom]

Is it hunting season in FL? I know it is deer season in Ohio this week. Many times hunters find remains of missing people.

jmo

[HenLee]

Ok, well, then they really are over, just throwing it out there, you can only have so many observers inside a trailer- its always possible they are seeing each other on the down low, people talk, so how come theres been no word or picture or name of the new gal Ron has allegedly been seeing?

I dont believe the hype, thats all-

jmoMaybe the local photographer threw her camera away.LOL..

[HenLee]

I just dont buy that, I just cant- And its amazing all these investigative journalists cant name the club she works at, or her name, or anything about this girl- Basically imo its been thrown out there as a ruse so Ron and Misty can see each other undetected- Ron is in the midst of losing the one child he still has and claims, I really have to give him the benefit of the doubt here and say he wouldnt endanger a DCF ruling by hanging out and introducing his son to a new stripper girlfriend so soon after the loss of HaLeigh and Misty- jmo

I don't think DCF is involved any longer but for sure after Crystal's latest tirade on MY Space, he has nothing to fear of her gaining custody.

[HenLee]

Ron does seem to be able to compartmentalize pretty well doesn't he? My daughter is missing....I'm going to marry Misty. I just can't figure out what in the world Ron has a chip on his shoulder for. Millions of people care about his child and think about her daily. jmo
You really think millions of people care about Haleigh? I think Haleigh was used by a S/O and many, many who have used her name to push hate across every message board across the internet and they are still piping up everyday. I know you understand what I am saying, like me you read many boards, you just don't see my name thrown around as much as yours and others. Not accusing, you have the right to spread your message anywhere you like but lets not pretend it is because these spreader of hate and filth care about Haleigh. Yes I can send CW as many links she may need to prove I write the truth...

[Tracian]

What "lynch mob" are you referring to? I happen to believe that most who visit here just want to know what happened to Haleigh. Other than Mrs. Sykes, if her visit account is true, Ron and Misty where the last people who were in the presence of Haleigh's last hours at Green Ln. IMO, seems neither has been exactly forthcoming about those hours.

Would you, as a parent accept the answers Misty has provided to that evening, and marry that person within thirty days of her story?

moo


Actually a neighbor saw HaLeigh and Jr playing after Ron left, at least that was in the early reports. We know that the AC man was there, after Ron left, but as far as I know, his statement was not released.

LE never said they had a problem with Ron's acount of the time line, only Misty's, why that is completely ignored I have no idea.

[HenLee]

DCF is involved right now, Ron is under investigation for putting an assault riffle in his mouth and threating to kill people in front of JR, and its ongoing, they have not ruled yet- I will be shocked if DCF does the right thing since they have already failed HaLEigh Cummings-

jmo
I was under the impression that DCF has checked and all is clear that there is not proof this incident happened as reported via the internet. Maybe you have proof otherwise, I could be wrong.

[HenLee]

Well main media never said much but people in the area did to boardsOh yea, you hit the nail on the head with this one.

[HenLee]

What "lynch mob" are you referring to? I happen to believe that most who visit here just want to know what happened to Haleigh. Other than Mrs. Sykes, if her visit account is true, Ron and Misty where the last people who were in the presence of Haleigh's last hours at Green Ln. IMO, seems neither has been exactly forthcoming about those hours.

Would you, as a parent accept the answers Misty has provided to that evening, and marry that person within thirty days of her story?

mooNeed to read tia, the sheriff has stated Ron was at work and the AC man seen both children along with her brother and his children. I also believe a neighbor stated to LE they also witnessed Haleigh and Junior in the yard after the father went to work. Why would you make such a statement like this, you know the history on this case as good as anyone else. Did I miss something?:read:
I think this case has went on long enough trying to put out false information is not going to fly. KWIM?

[Texas48]

Is it hunting season in FL? I know it is deer season in Ohio this week. Many times hunters find remains of missing people.

jmoBBM
I thought about that too Mom and *trying* to NOT think about it. I just have that feeling.

[Texas48]

I just dont buy that, I just cant- And its amazing all these investigative journalists cant name the club she works at, or her name, or anything about this girl- Basically imo its been thrown out there as a ruse so Ron and Misty can see each other undetected- Ron is in the midst of losing the one child he still has and claims, I really have to give him the benefit of the doubt here and say he wouldnt endanger a DCF ruling by hanging out and introducing his son to a new stripper girlfriend so soon after the loss of HaLeigh and Misty- jmo
Is it possible no one is interested in who his friend is?

[HenLee]

He has a "don't give a crap" attitude and as long as he has it, how can others keep it going?

(shrug)Do you know him personally to draw such a conclusion or are you going by rumors printed on the internet?
Now I realize that a couple of posters are attempting to get some of us banned I will take a bow and leave until CW understand the agenda here by a couple of posters.

[panman]

Do you know him personally to draw such a conclusion or are you going by rumors printed on the internet?
Now I realize that a couple of posters are attempting to get some of us banned I will take a bow and leave until CW understand the agenda here by a couple of posters.

I hope you don't leave. You are spot on with your post trying, along with others, to keep the truth out there. If the truth posters leave, there will be nothing left but one sided hatred.

[Justice4all]

I sure hope Haleigh's home for Christmas.... :rose:

[Chica]

Is it hunting season in FL? I know it is deer season in Ohio this week. Many times hunters find remains of missing people.

jmo

Yes, it's hunting season here in MA., too. But, I feel Haleigh's remains are in a body of water near the one LE drained. I think they drained the wrong pond.

[Tracian]

Is it possible "talk about town" concerning Ron's new girlfriend is more rumor, innuendo and gossip?

Good morning *sis.


I didn't hear Levi's show, how did Art say he came across this information? TIA

[5boxersmom]

Interesting-

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090313/ARTICLES/903130983


"Today Show" cameras showed footage of Croslin and Cummings getting married in the yard of a friend's mobile home. His church would not allow the marriage to take place there because pastors did not approve of the union, according to the "Today Show." At the wedding, Croslin wore a white wedding dress and Cummings wore sunglasses and a short sleeved button down shirt. As they cut their wedding cake, cameras showed him in a sleeveless black t-shirt.

While he allowed the "Today Show" to shoot he wedding and reception, Cummings took issue with media attention of the wedding.

I wonder how much money he got? No wonder he hasnt had to work in almost 10 months- then on top of the 12k for child support...

Its sadly been a lucrative year for Ron-

jmo

He was owed the 12k so I don't really see how that can be included in a "lucrative year". Who paid that 12k again?

I thought the wedding was at a family members home?

jmo

[Justice4all]

Interesting-

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090313/ARTICLES/903130983


"Today Show" cameras showed footage of Croslin and Cummings getting married in the yard of a friend's mobile home. His church would not allow the marriage to take place there because pastors did not approve of the union, according to the "Today Show." At the wedding, Croslin wore a white wedding dress and Cummings wore sunglasses and a short sleeved button down shirt. As they cut their wedding cake, cameras showed him in a sleeveless black t-shirt.

While he allowed the "Today Show" to shoot he wedding and reception, Cummings took issue with media attention of the wedding.

I wonder how much money he got? No wonder he hasnt had to work in almost 10 months- then on top of the 12k for child support...

Its sadly been a lucrative year for Ron-

jmo

How will this kind of post bring Haleigh home?
What does this kind of post have to do with Haleigh?

[Chica]

You really think millions of people care about Haleigh? I think Haleigh was used by a S/O and many, many who have used her name to push hate across every message board across the internet and they are still piping up everyday. I know you understand what I am saying, like me you read many boards, you just don't see my name thrown around as much as yours and others. Not accusing, you have the right to spread your message anywhere you like but lets not pretend it is because these spreader of hate and filth care about Haleigh. Yes I can send CW as many links she may need to prove I write the truth...

Excellent post HenLee! i come here maybe once a day or less because this thread and the baseless accusations of these people makes me want to vomit! Spread hate is right!!!

[baywench]

You really think millions of people care about Haleigh? I think Haleigh was used by a S/O and many, many who have used her name to push hate across every message board across the internet and they are still piping up everyday. I know you understand what I am saying, like me you read many boards, you just don't see my name thrown around as much as yours and others. Not accusing, you have the right to spread your message anywhere you like but lets not pretend it is because these spreader of hate and filth care about Haleigh. Yes I can send CW as many links she may need to prove I write the truth...

Yes I do believe millions care about Haleigh. Obviously you have followed me so you know that. I think the difference between us is I haven't changed my name as many times as you may have. I also use the same name wherever I am posting. You have issues. :wink:

[Motomom]

Thank you for clearing that up for me. I will stop sitting by the phone waiting for them to call me. How about on any one of the talk shows he is on where he sits there like a lump of clay and says nothing other than "I don't know".... I don't quite understand your point other than calling ME out. If there is one I guess I missed it. Bottom line is Ron knows more than he is saying, I am not sure that he has told LE, he needs to be at the forefront of keeping Haleigh's case alive. To my knowledge he has not been doing that. If this was all a tragic accident I think one of them would have come forward. Misty just needs to say it was an accident. i am not sure that I believe that Ron and Misty are really estranged. Which is just another strange part of this. jmo

Had nothing to do with calling YOU out on anything , no reason to be nasty. I was posting.. just like you were. If you missed the point, can't help you cause my point couldn't have been any clearer.

I don't know if they are really estranged or not, that whole thing is bizarre at best. Getting married a month after Haleigh goes missing, then divorcing only months later. Maybe he did marry her to keep her close. Maybe he thought that marrying her, she'd tell him what she knows. I don't know.. but it seems like people want him to go on talk shows and tell us everything..well that's not going to happen.. and LE apparently doesn't want some info out to the public, which after all of this time makes zero sense to me. I was wondering yesterday if LE believes she is alive? Could that be why they are slow to give out info? They spoke of all of this physical evidence they had in regards to Misty not doing what she said she was doing.. so I'm curious as to what that evidence is. I don't think Ron knows anymore than he's told LE. I think he knows more than he's told us, but I believe he's told LE all that he knows. If not, why aren't they pressuring him more?

[baywench]

Excellent post HenLee! i come here maybe once a day or less because this thread and the baseless accusations of these people makes me want to vomit! Spread hate is right!!!

We will miss you.

[Motomom]

Misty should just come out and say it was a accident, because YOU think that is what happened?? I want who ever abducted to stand trial and if she is deceased, burn in hell along with all who has ever harmed a Innocent child.
I think LE needs to get their lazy butts over to Baker County and do some investigating. Lots of hunters in that area. KWIM?Yes I did see you JMO but many who hates the Cummings has the same opinion because of a ATTORNEY who went on a hate rage against the whole Cummings family and damn anyone who should disagree with her technique of making her client or associates look Innocent.
Justice is finding the true abductor and I hope anyone who cares about this child feels the same.

I can't imagine there not being evidence if it was an accident.. We've discussed this all before and as far as I'm concerned LE dropped the ball bigtime on this case.. from the getgo!! Blankets she supposedly slept on, drug outside and placed on the back steps for dogs to smell. No thorough searches in baker county from the beginning, remember the dogs hitting on the dumpster, the way they just went through that dumpster, throwing stuff out onto a tarp.. not thorough IMO. There are so many things LE could have done differently, or should have as far as I'm concerned and I typically side with LE. Sending Tim Miller away early on.. none of it makes sense because if Haleigh was disposed of by say Misty.. I think there would have been evidence..and how far would she be able to go to dispose of her? The water should have been checked more too I think.

[Motomom]

I don't think DCF is involved any longer but for sure after Crystal's latest tirade on MY Space, he has nothing to fear of her gaining custody.

Out of the loop here in regards to Crystal.. what tirade? Can you pm me if you can't post it here?

[Motomom]

Actually a neighbor saw HaLeigh and Jr playing after Ron left, at least that was in the early reports. We know that the AC man was there, after Ron left, but as far as I know, his statement was not released.

LE never said they had a problem with Ron's acount of the time line, only Misty's, why that is completely ignored I have no idea.

I have an idea of why it's ignored..but I'll refrain :) We never did get the AC repair guys name did we? so many people were "cleared" then "uncleared" too soon as well. The only way I think LE wouldn't have found evidence is if someone did come in and snatch only her..then any hairs or anything they may have dropped while leaning over to grab her would have been lost when Le pulled them blankets outside.. or she could have been handed off earlier. I just don't understand how children just vanish into thin air it seems.

[Motomom]

Interesting-

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20090313/ARTICLES/903130983


"Today Show" cameras showed footage of Croslin and Cummings getting married in the yard of a friend's mobile home. His church would not allow the marriage to take place there because pastors did not approve of the union, according to the "Today Show." At the wedding, Croslin wore a white wedding dress and Cummings wore sunglasses and a short sleeved button down shirt. As they cut their wedding cake, cameras showed him in a sleeveless black t-shirt.

While he allowed the "Today Show" to shoot he wedding and reception, Cummings took issue with media attention of the wedding.

I wonder how much money he got? No wonder he hasnt had to work in almost 10 months- then on top of the 12k for child support...

Its sadly been a lucrative year for Ron-

jmo


Yes.. 12 K he already paid out.. he got back. Good for him, Crystal should have been supporting her children don't you don't you think ? Maybe he did get money from the Today show.. I've never heard whether he did or didn't have you? How much money did the Haleighbug center bring in? anyone know what they did with their donations? Might not have been a lucrative year for only Ron. JMO

[baywench]

Had nothing to do with calling YOU out on anything , no reason to be nasty. I was posting.. just like you were. If you missed the point, can't help you cause my point couldn't have been any clearer.

I don't know if they are really estranged or not, that whole thing is bizarre at best. Getting married a month after Haleigh goes missing, then divorcing only months later. Maybe he did marry her to keep her close. Maybe he thought that marrying her, she'd tell him what she knows. I don't know.. but it seems like people want him to go on talk shows and tell us everything..well that's not going to happen.. and LE apparently doesn't want some info out to the public, which after all of this time makes zero sense to me. I was wondering yesterday if LE believes she is alive? Could that be why they are slow to give out info? They spoke of all of this physical evidence they had in regards to Misty not doing what she said she was doing.. so I'm curious as to what that evidence is. I don't think Ron knows anymore than he's told LE. I think he knows more than he's told us, but I believe he's told LE all that he knows. If not, why aren't they pressuring him more?

If I misunderstood you, I apologize for the snarkiness. If I look at it from the point of view that maybe LE does she think she's alive that makes some of their actions more understandable. I just don't know what the point of going on NG is. I wish he would show her picture, give out the tip lines, maybe it is not his personality. I was behind Ron 100%...until he married Misty. Just don't understand. jmo

[cat3]

Proof? It hits the papers when DCF clears Ron, there has not been a word yet- when they clear him, we will all know about it because his supporters will be waving it everywhere gleaming that Ron is a super dad!

Its just how it goes, well, thats how it went last time-

jmo

I don't recall anyone calling RC a super dad when he was cleared of abuse by DCF.I think most of us were happy to find a ruling of non abuse for the sake of the children.
Do you have a link to a new investigation by DCF?
IMO

[baywench]

I remember when I first heard about this case, it caught my attention following Caylee. The pictures of her are captivating and the strange behavior of her family early on kept me here. We have been through so much since then with all of the in-fighting and taking of sides. Myself as guilty as any. But the day we find out where she is, and if it's bad news, we will all become one and that is why I am here. My family and friends would think I was nuts to grieve over someone I have never met. jmo

[cat3]

Yes.. 12 K he already paid out.. he got back. Good for him, Crystal should have been supporting her children don't you don't you think ? Maybe he did get money from the Today show.. I've never heard whether he did or didn't have you? How much money did the Haleighbug center bring in? anyone know what they did with their donations? Might not have been a lucrative year for only Ron. JMO

Good questions.I would like to know as well about the donations to the Haleighbug Center.It was said that it was to help Crystal and her family while she was in Satsuma and also to help fund searches and the reward money for Haleigh.
Speaking of Crystal where has she and her family been of late? No word from them on Thanksgiving and the last we heard from them was the concert and the filing against KP.I don't think it should be only up to RC and family to keep Haleigh's name out there.
IMO

[baywench]

Yes.. 12 K he already paid out.. he got back. Good for him, Crystal should have been supporting her children don't you don't you think ? Maybe he did get money from the Today show.. I've never heard whether he did or didn't have you? How much money did the Haleighbug center bring in? anyone know what they did with their donations? Might not have been a lucrative year for only Ron. JMO

Ron has brought alot of this criticism upon himself. He complained the media covered his marriage and not his daughter and yet he staged that entire thing. His behavior has been strange...period. He very well may have had nothing to do with her missing but he needs to lead the troops in keeping her name out there instead of whining about the publlicity he so eagerly sought in the beginning. IMO her own family are the ones that have forgotten what the focus should be. jmo

[Texas48]

Good questions.I would like to know as well about the donations to the Haleighbug Center.It was said that it was to help Crystal and her family while she was in Satsuma and also to help fund searches and the reward money for Haleigh.
Speaking of Crystal where has she and her family been of late? No word from them on Thanksgiving and the last we heard from them was the concert and the filing against KP.I don't think it should be only up to RC and family to keep Haleigh's name out there.
IMO
IIRC when the HBC first went up there was mention of donations for Jr and Crystal/Chad's baby. I wish I could remember exactly how it was presented on the site but I know it just didn't sound right....imo..Little HaLeigh is missing and they are asking for clothing for both kids...strange to say the least..and before posters get in the punches..I'm sure Ron used donation $$ for personal reasons..
Prolly good idea for all donations be put onto the reward fund but that will never happen..not in this case and probably not in any other case...JMO
81 candles are lighting the way home for HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings...:wub: Lets try and get it to 100 before the night is over.....

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

[Texas48]

Ron has brought alot of this criticism upon himself. He complained the media covered his marriage and not his daughter and yet he staged that entire thing. His behavior has been strange...period. He very well may have had nothing to do with her missing but he needs to lead the troops in keeping her name out there instead of whining about the publlicity he so eagerly sought in the beginning. IMO her own family are the ones that have forgotten what the focus should be. jmoBBM
Might help alot if Crystal was by his side in getting HaLeigh's name out to the public/media. imo

[Texas48]

How will this kind of post bring Haleigh home?
What does this kind of post have to do with Haleigh?
sad..HaLeigh is just not the focus any more Justice.

[Texas48]

I have an idea of why it's ignored..but I'll refrain :) We never did get the AC repair guys name did we? so many people were "cleared" then "uncleared" too soon as well. The only way I think LE wouldn't have found evidence is if someone did come in and snatch only her..then any hairs or anything they may have dropped while leaning over to grab her would have been lost when Le pulled them blankets outside.. or she could have been handed off earlier. I just don't understand how children just vanish into thin air it seems.BBM
Neither do I Mom..The answer to what happened to this baby girl is right there within family members...IMO//at this point IF HaLeigh could be found and brought home would be a blessing. Don't even care who did what anymore...{shaking head}

[Motomom]

If I misunderstood you, I apologize for the snarkiness. If I look at it from the point of view that maybe LE does she think she's alive that makes some of their actions more understandable. I just don't know what the point of going on NG is. I wish he would show her picture, give out the tip lines, maybe it is not his personality. I was behind Ron 100%...until he married Misty. Just don't understand. jmo

Their actions do make more sense if LE believes she is alive. I don't understand why he married her either.. I'm not behind him 100%, but don't believe he is anyway involved, or knows, who has his daughter or who harmed her. His choices in life aren't my cup of tea either.

[Texas48]

I don't recall anyone calling RC a super dad when he was cleared of abuse by DCF.I think most of us were happy to find a ruling of non abuse for the sake of the children.
Do you have a link to a new investigation by DCF?
IMO
Cat..IF..there is 1 post on this board that claims Ron is a super dad I would like to see/read it..

[Justice4all]

sad..HaLeigh is just not the focus any more Justice.

ITA and it's heart breaking

[baywench]

BBM
Might help alot if Crystal was by his side in getting HaLeigh's name out to the public/media. imo


Sigh. Yes that is true. Crystal needs to get out there also, but to be perfectly honest I never much think of Crystal since she was so uninvolved in Haleigh's life and undeserving of much respect imo The discussion was about Ron's behavior. jmo

[tia marie]

I don't think DCF is involved any longer but for sure after Crystal's latest tirade on MY Space, he has nothing to fear of her gaining custody.

I would love for you to provide valid information that the new Crystal's Myspace is truly hers. Or is it just a rumor without any basis of truth? You seem to have stated it as fact. Valid link is required.

tia

[FoxySly]

He was owed the 12k so I don't really see how that can be included in a "lucrative year". Who paid that 12k again?

I thought the wedding was at a family members home?

jmo

Yup, yup, yup, yup & yup.

crystal got out of the $12,000 she owed after years of not paying the lowest amount that could be ordered in Child support.
crystal got out of going to jail for not paying Child support.
Weird that some keep calling this a wind-fall to Ron since he spent at least 4 times that much caring for his Children.

I don't think $300. a month would pay 1/2 a months worth of day care for 2 Children, on top of that Ron fed them, put clothes on their backs, a roof over their heads & ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL that other stuff a PARENT SHOULD DO.

I posted the links long ago of the griffis' 'farm' property & personal taxes being so far behind they were very close to losing their property & trailers.
HaLeigh goes missing & all of a sudden these taxes are current.
How did that happen? I'd like to know where the money came from all of a sudden when they were so poor crystal had (again asap) a paypal link added to her site begging for money & clothes for the baby she has with her stepbrother chad, is her stepbrother not working?

I can understand the money problems a missing Child can cause because of not working but dang it, if you're NOT working before you have no money to be losing from missing work!
I don't understand begging for clothes asap for another Child that has another dad. crystal has had no job to go to in years & when she did it was only a few weeks.
It's in the documents, dang, crystal won't even get out of bed to take HaLeigh to the doctor (13 missed appointments & rescheduled ones too) while Ron was gainfully employed (in the documents).

I won't call chad crystal's fiancée as IMO that is a word many now use when they have had a baby with someone they are not married to & it looks like crystal has moved on to bobby according to crystal.

What I would like to know is how did marie know how to set up for donations so soon? I keep wondering how she got all that stuff ready to sell in record time.

And why are those who fell for all the NOW PROVEN UNTRUTHS trying to bring them up again? We already know the TRUTH about the FAKE stuff why try to start it again?

Again, who profited big time sadly off HaLeigh's disappearance?
Wanna say Ron okay but someone else trumps Ron big time in profiting!
I know, it very easy to see the TRUTH if one opens their eyes.

Sly

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[tia marie]

Yup, yup, yup, yup & yup.

crystal got out of the $12,000 she owed after years of not paying the lowest amount that could be ordered in Child support.
crystal got out of going to jail for not paying Child support.
Weird that some keep calling this a wind-fall to Ron since he spent at least 4 times that much caring for his Children.

I don't think $300. a month would pay 1/2 a months worth of day care for 2 Children, on top of that Ron fed them, put clothes on their backs, a roof over their heads & ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL that other stuff a PARENT SHOULD DO.

I posted the links long ago of the griffis' 'farm' property & personal taxes being so far behind they were very close to losing their property & trailers.
HaLeigh goes missing & all of a sudden these taxes are current.
How did that happen? I'd like to know where the money came from all of a sudden when they were so poor crystal had (again asap) a paypal link added to her site begging for money & clothes for the baby she has with her stepbrother chad, is her stepbrother not working?

I can understand the money problems a missing Child can cause because of not working but dang it, if you're NOT working before you have no money to be losing from missing work!
I don't understand begging for clothes asap for another Child that has another dad. crystal has had no job to go to in years & when she did it was only a few weeks.
It's in the documents, dang, crystal won't even get out of bed to take HaLeigh to the doctor (13 missed appointments & rescheduled ones too) while Ron was gainfully employed (in the documents).

I won't call chad crystal's fiancée as IMO that is a word many now use when they have had a baby with someone they are not married to & it looks like crystal has moved on to bobby according to crystal.

What I would like to know is how did marie know how to set up for donations so soon? I keep wondering how she got all that stuff ready to sell in record time.

And why are those who fell for all the NOW PROVEN UNTRUTHS trying to bring them up again? We already know the TRUTH about the FAKE stuff why try to start it again?

Again, who profited big time sadly off HaLeigh's disappearance?
Wanna say Ron okay but someone else trumps Ron big time in profiting!
I know, it very easy to see the TRUTH if one opens their eyes.

Sly

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Whose "Bobby"? Valid link that Crystal "has moved on".

[FoxySly]

I don't recall anyone calling RC a super dad when he was cleared of abuse by DCF.I think most of us were happy to find a ruling of non abuse for the sake of the children.
Do you have a link to a new investigation by DCF?
IMO

BBM

Me neither except for those typing it vile & sarcastically, Sad IMO.

There is NO link to any new investigation with DCF (because it's not true) as there was with the TRUE investigation that Ron was cleared of all FALSE LIES against him.

Sly

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[tia marie]

BBM

Me neither except for those typing it vile & sarcastically, Sad IMO.

There is NO link to any new investigation with DCF (because it's not true) as there was with the TRUE investigation that Ron was cleared of all FALSE LIES against him.

Sly

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If DCF is not watching the wellbeing of Junior as this unfolds they would be derelict in their duties, and shame on them if they are not keeping a close eye that Junior is safe.''

[CFMom]

If DCF is not watching the wellbeing of Junior as this unfolds they would be derelict in their duties, and shame on them if they are not keeping a close eye that Junior is safe.''

I agree and i sure hope they watch him well during his visits with Crystal since its come out now she is on drugs.

[Tracian]

You will never get a valid link- JMO

We are not allowed to link to myspace, and the only other place that hit on this BNN blogger radio.

Of course, I have yet to see a valid link that Ron is dating a stripper.

[HenLee]

I would love for you to provide valid information that the new Crystal's Myspace is truly hers. Or is it just a rumor without any basis of truth? You seem to have stated it as fact. Valid link is required.

tia As with any posting on the internet, only LE can subpoena IP addresses. I would believe if it were not Crystal's her attorney would have had it removed by now.
Out of respect for CW, I will not take your bait. Thank you If CW needs the link I will gladly send it to her.

[CFMom]

Its a rumor, the page was created about 20 days ago, the picture of her was saved from her real private myspace- some people just dont have anything in their lives to do but make up fake myspace pages , its pretty sad if you think about it-

jm

How do you know its fake? Have you asked Crystal herself?

[tia marie]

We are not allowed to link to myspace, and the only other place that hit on this BNN blogger radio.

Of course, I have yet to see a valid link that Ron is dating a stripper.

You don't believe Art H. I take it.

[CFMom]

You don't believe Art H. I take it.

I don't. :)

[Tracian]

You don't believe Art H. I take it.


Well he is being sued, and KP and Cobra both say he was on the payroll.

Do you believe AH?

[tia marie]

As with any posting on the internet, only LE can subpoena IP addresses. I would believe if it were not Crystal's her attorney would have had it removed by now.
Out of respect for CW, I will not take your bait. Thank you If CW needs the link I will gladly send it to her.

Perhaps you should do just that. Without a court order how could Crystal's atty. be able to do that? Does Crystal have a new atty?

[titanfan217]

Their actions do make more sense if LE believes she is alive. I don't understand why he married her either.. I'm not behind him 100%, but don't believe he is anyway involved, or knows, who has his daughter or who harmed her. His choices in life aren't my cup of tea either.


I think just the opposite. If LE thought she was alive, why aren't they doing everything to find her? As bad as her life might have been before, I doubt it would a piece of cake away from her parents and brother.

[titanfan217]

Perhaps you should do just that. Without a court order how could Crystal's atty. be able to do that? Does Crystal have a new atty?

ITA. Besides if Crystal had a new boyfriend, when would she have time to play on a computer. She wasn't on it before.

[W_D_1]

Perhaps you should do just that. Without a court order how could Crystal's atty. be able to do that? Does Crystal have a new atty?


No an attorney wouldn't need a court order. All they would have to do is contact MySpacee on behalf of their client and get the page removed.

[W_D_1]

ITA. Besides if Crystal had a new boyfriend, when would she have time to play on a computer. She wasn't on it before.



Before what? She had a MySpace page when Haleigh disappeared and she has posted on Twitter since.

[panman]

I would love for you to provide valid information that the new Crystal's Myspace is truly hers. Or is it just a rumor without any basis of truth? You seem to have stated it as fact. Valid link is required.

tia

Thanks for humor. Your wanting a valid link.

[panman]

Its a rumor, the page was created about 20 days ago, the picture of her was saved from her real private myspace- some people just dont have anything in their lives to do but make up fake myspace pages , its pretty sad if you think about it-

jm

Could I have a valid link proving that it is not Crystals MS?

[panman]

Perhaps you should do just that. Without a court order how could Crystal's atty. be able to do that? Does Crystal have a new atty?

BBM

Don't you know?

[Tracian]

Before what? She had a MySpace page when Haleigh disappeared and she has posted on Twitter since.

She also has a facebook, which has many of the same friends as the myspace.

Don't you have to send a friend request on Myspace, and they have to accept? Why would Marie accept a friend request from a phoney MS.

[W_D_1]

She also has a facebook, which has many of the same friends as the myspace.

Don't you have to send a friend request on Myspace, and they have to accept? Why would Marie accept a friend request from a phoney MS.


She wouldn't.

[baywench]

What does it matter if Crystal has a myspace or is moving on to a new boyfriend? How do we end up mired in this mindless trivia? What does it matter if Ron is dating a stripper? What effect does it have on Haleigh being missing or the possible outcome? The case is still unsolved, I really don't think the sex lives of the parents are going to break the case. jmo

[Tracian]

What does it matter if Crystal has a myspace or is moving on to a new boyfriend? How do we end up mired in this mindless trivia? What does it matter if Ron is dating a stripper? What effect does it have on Haleigh being missing or the possible outcome? The case is still unsolved, I really don't think the sex lives of the parents are going to break the case. jmo


The only reason it matters is if we are discussing how either parent is continuing the search for HaLeigh.

We have scanner reports about a stolen 4 wheeler that Ron reported that for some made him 'more concerned' about a 4 wheeler than his daughter; the Myspace protrays Crystal as moving on with her life..not much of a mention of HaLeigh.

[baywench]

The only reason it matters is if we are discussing how either parent is continuing the search for HaLeigh.

We have scanner reports about a stolen 4 wheeler that Ron reported that for some made him 'more concerned' about a 4 wheeler than his daughter; the Myspace protrays Crystal as moving on with her life..not much of a mention of HaLeigh.

Neither of them have been trying very hard from what I can see. It is not a surprise that two people who are promiscuous have moved on to other partners. It would be more surprising if they hadn't imo.

[TaraCrazyHair]

What does it matter if Crystal has a myspace or is moving on to a new boyfriend? How do we end up mired in this mindless trivia? What does it matter if Ron is dating a stripper? What effect does it have on Haleigh being missing or the possible outcome? The case is still unsolved, I really don't think the sex lives of the parents are going to break the case. jmo

It probably will not break the case ... but it can go to state of mind?

In the event of trial etc?

Just tossing guesses

[TaraCrazyHair]

I think just the opposite. If LE thought she was alive, why aren't they doing everything to find her? As bad as her life might have been before, I doubt it would a piece of cake away from her parents and brother.

Does anyone really feel that LE is looking for a live Haleigh?

(I personally don't)

[baywench]

It probably will not break the case ... but it can go to state of mind?

In the event of trial etc?

Just tossing guesses

Good guesses though! I hadn't thought that far ahead. Seems like everything to do with the investigation has just stopped. jmo

[TaraCrazyHair]

Good guesses though! I hadn't thought that far ahead. Seems like everything to do with the investigation has just stopped. jmo

I don't think it stopped per se but certainly is at a standstill as far as information to the public is concerned

In my opinion, LE most likely believes Haleigh is gone and are working on a case to present to the DA upon the arrest(s) as soon as the go ahead to get the warrants is issued

[Motomom]

I think just the opposite. If LE thought she was alive, why aren't they doing everything to find her? As bad as her life might have been before, I doubt it would a piece of cake away from her parents and brother.

I doubt her life was bad, by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe some should see what "bad" really is, but that's obviously MOO. And actually, children adapt quite well, especially at 5. IF.. big huge IF..she is actually alive and with people who are not abusing her.. but I realize that the chances of that are slim. very slim.... If LE had evidence that she was dead, or hurt..wouldn't we have heard about it by now? I don't know.. Anything is possible with this case, with both sides of her family and the Croslins in the mix. I'd like to hear LE's thoughts on this case now, all these months later.

[Motomom]

ITA. Besides if Crystal had a new boyfriend, when would she have time to play on a computer. She wasn't on it before.

What do you mean, she was on myspace before Haleigh went missing. Her myspace wasn't private, most saw her original one.. FWIW I don't think that this newest one is her at all.. I do think it is a fake, and I know that there is the connection to Marie and the original Crystal myspace on as her friends, but either they are fake themselves.. made up as a copy I guess to look like the originals..or .. IDK cause didn't someone just post that the myspace was made only 20 days ago?? Are they sure about that cause it could have been someone who befriended Marie and Crystal on myspace before... They wouldn't know they were on this one's top 10.. IDK if anyone can even follow this post LOL..

[Motomom]

No an attorney wouldn't need a court order. All they would have to do is contact MySpacee on behalf of their client and get the page removed.

Crystal herself could get Myspace to delete that page I think.

[TaraCrazyHair]

Crystal herself could get Myspace to delete that page I think.

Absolutely correct

I do not think it is her page

[Motomom]

Absolutely correct

I do not think it is her page

Neither do I. I hope that someone passes the information on to her about it. She does not need false rumors spread about her and the page is convincing, simply because marie and Crystal's originals are connected to it, but there are definitely ways around that. I'm gonna look at it later on again.

[TaraCrazyHair]

Neither do I. I hope that someone passes the information on to her about it. She does not need false rumors spread about her and the page is convincing, simply because marie and Crystal's originals are connected to it, but there are definitely ways around that. I'm gonna look at it later on again.


She has kept such a low profile, especially since the BAR thing was reported out and that is why I think it is a fake

I believe Crystal and lawyer are working on a rebuttal

[Justice4all]

She has kept such a low profile, especially since the BAR thing was reported out and that is why I think it is a fake

I believe Crystal and lawyer are working on a rebuttal

IMO Crystal is humiliated the truth finally came out. I wish her luck with her drug problems.

[FoxySly]

I doubt her life was bad, by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe some should see what "bad" really is, but that's obviously MOO. And actually, children adapt quite well, especially at 5. IF.. big huge IF..she is actually alive and with people who are not abusing her.. but I realize that the chances of that are slim. very slim.... If LE had evidence that she was dead, or hurt..wouldn't we have heard about it by now? I don't know.. Anything is possible with this case, with both sides of her family and the Croslins in the mix. I'd like to hear LE's thoughts on this case now, all these months later.

BBM

Oh my!!! I so TA with you!!!

ALL those truly HAPPY snapped at random un-posed for photos DO NOT LIE!
HaLeigh was a VERY HAPPY 5 year old with her Daddy & Brother.

You can't fake that sparkle in a 5 year olds eyes!!! Nope that can't be done!


Sly

~

[Justice4all]

Does anyone really feel that LE is looking for a live Haleigh?

(I personally don't)

I do and so does Haleighs family.

[Justice4all]

BBM

Oh my!!! I so TA with you!!!

ALL those truly HAPPY snapped at random un-posed for photos DO NOT LIE!
HaLeigh was a VERY HAPPY 5 year old with her Daddy & Brother.

You can't fake that sparkle in a 5 year olds eyes!!! Nope that can't be done!


Sly

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ITA she glowed around her daddy.

[TaraCrazyHair]

BBM

Oh my!!! I so TA with you!!!

ALL those truly HAPPY snapped at random un-posed for photos DO NOT LIE!
HaLeigh was a VERY HAPPY 5 year old with her Daddy & Brother.

You can't fake that sparkle in a 5 year olds eyes!!! Nope that can't be done!


Sly

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Hate to burst your bubble but almost all little children short of the severely abused still have sparkle

Until the light gets taken out

[aproudmom]

OMG that brought me to tears I am glad Ron is doing the vigil and I am praying for all the family members this should be a happy time with laughter and joy and without little Haleigh their will be a huge joy missing. I pray for a miracle and this baby comes home. God bless them all.:crying:

[aproudmom]

Crystal herself could get Myspace to delete that page I think.

If you don't mind me asking what Myspace are we talking about? they do have rules and if they are broken they will shut it down. It is very easy actually just takes some reporting.

[aproudmom]

Its a rumor, the page was created about 20 days ago, the picture of her was saved from her real private myspace- some people just dont have anything in their lives to do but make up fake myspace pages , its pretty sad if you think about it-

jm

If someone takes a pic off of your myspace you can report it if it is a fake page the thing is you have to know someone has done it and report it to Myspace and they will either remove the pic or shut the site down.

[aproudmom]

I have always wondered what kind of hold he/they have on her that she hasn't broken yet. She's pretty simple I thought she would have cracked by now. When I heard the purse stealing recording I was convinced the first call was staged. jmo

ITA with you bay about that call.

[aproudmom]

ITA she glowed around her daddy.

I am sure she glowed with her mother also. I just do not get the bash mom or bash dad or this one is better than that one when no one lived in their homes. JMO

[aproudmom]

IMO Crystal is humiliated the truth finally came out. I wish her luck with her drug problems.

What drug problem? did they release failed pee test from a doctor and I missed it?:confused: I know she admitted and came clean about her problems when she was with Ron never heard anyone else admit to it though:sneaky:

[aproudmom]

She also has a facebook, which has many of the same friends as the myspace.

Don't you have to send a friend request on Myspace, and they have to accept? Why would Marie accept a friend request from a phoney MS.

no you do not have to accept it only if you have that option checked and I had her on my myspace when Haleigh first went missing months ago and she finally sit it to private because of all the people going on it which I didn't blame her.

[Motomom]

no you do not have to accept it only if you have that option checked and I had her on my myspace when Haleigh first went missing months ago and she finally sit it to private because of all the people going on it which I didn't blame her.

In order to show up as friends, you have to accept though. You are either friends, or not friends.

[aproudmom]

Good guesses though! I hadn't thought that far ahead. Seems like everything to do with the investigation has just stopped. jmo

I think this case has pretty much went cold I wish I did not feel that way but I think Haleigh is no longer with us and until Misty breaks or tells the truth we may never know just what happened that night. JMO:sad:

[aproudmom]

In order to show up as friends, you have to accept though. You are either friends, or not friends.

You do not have to accept the friend request unless you have it set to approve before adding a friend many bands and people who just do not care who is on their page do that they just want the numbers an do not have a add request. UNLESS they changed it in the past 2 months

[aproudmom]

In order to show up as friends, you have to accept though. You are either friends, or not friends.

what or who does this myspace belong to and whoever said you could not link myspaces were wrong I got sent to band camp for NOT linking Misty's so do not know what the difference is why I had to link one but you can't link another one.

[aproudmom]

In order to show up as friends, you have to accept though. You are either friends, or not friends.

what or who does this myspace belong to and whoever said you could not link myspaces were wrong I got sent to band camp for NOT linking Misty's so do not know what the difference is why I had to link one but you can't link another one.

[Tracian]

no you do not have to accept it only if you have that option checked and I had her on my myspace when Haleigh first went missing months ago and she finally sit it to private because of all the people going on it which I didn't blame her.

Yeah, well Maries is set to private, and so is Crystals except for the main page. So again I ask if you are set to private to you have to accept the request?

[aproudmom]

What does it matter if Crystal has a myspace or is moving on to a new boyfriend? How do we end up mired in this mindless trivia? What does it matter if Ron is dating a stripper? What effect does it have on Haleigh being missing or the possible outcome? The case is still unsolved, I really don't think the sex lives of the parents are going to break the case. jmo

ITA it does not have anything to do with finding little Haleigh and I just do not understand why it has to be like a broken record of he is bad or she is bad that is not going to bring that baby home and it is really not important or brings any topic to this case other than fighting IMO

[aproudmom]

Yeah, well Maries is set to private, and so is Crystals except for the main page. So again I ask if you are set to private to you have to accept the request?

Oh yeah if it is private then yes you do have to accept a request. I have not seen or looked for her new one so I have not seen it or her mothers.

[aproudmom]

LE is fixated on Misty, and from the arrests, her family. Tommy said Misty was not at the house.

Time for Misty to tell the truth.

:thumbup:ITA she needs to fess up.
bbm

[teresa]

Neither do I. I hope that someone passes the information on to her about it. She does not need false rumors spread about her and the page is convincing, simply because marie and Crystal's originals are connected to it, but there are definitely ways around that. I'm gonna look at it later on again.

Marie's & Crystal's originals are both private. The fake person would have to send them a request and it would have to be accepted. There's no way around that. Even a mutual friend can't steal them and add to their friend page.

If they ask myspace to take it down, it's usually done within a few hours, at least in the two I know that were fake and taken down of other people involved in this case.

As it is, I don't care, just adding information. If Crystal & Chad are moving on, there is no law against it. I'm sure there's been a lot of pressure in that household this year.

[teresa]

no you do not have to accept it only if you have that option checked and I had her on my myspace when Haleigh first went missing months ago and she finally sit it to private because of all the people going on it which I didn't blame her.

As soon as it went private back in Feb, you DO have to accept it. No other way to do it.

ETA, sorry mom, I see that in a later post you did say if it is private (it has been since just after Haleigh went missing) you must accept a request to be a friend.

[CFMom]

ITA. Besides if Crystal had a new boyfriend, when would she have time to play on a computer. She wasn't on it before.

She has a twitter accouint and posted. How do you this isnt her or if she was or wasnt on it before?

[CFMom]

I just tried to add myself to Maries MS and you have to have her email she recognizes in order to do so..therefore..I think the Crystal MS is real otherwise why would Marie add a fake?

[CFMom]

This supposedly 'fake' Crystal is a friend of Maries on Maries MS..I think its real :P

[Justice4all]

This supposedly 'fake' Crystal is a friend of Maries on Maries MS..I think its real :P

no doubt in my mind it's real.

[CFMom]

no doubt in my mind it's real.

Mine either now that I checked it for myself. As I said I requested to be Maries friend and you cant without her email address and even then she must ok it..she ok'd the supposedly fake MS of Crystal, she wouldnt have if it wasnt the real Crystal. So this leads me to feel its true that Crystal has indeed moved on with her life and on to a new man named Bobby..according to her MS page.

..Ron was trashed for supposedly moving on...

[Motomom]

Mine either now that I checked it for myself. As I said I requested to be Maries friend and you cant without her email address and even then she must ok it..she ok'd the supposedly fake MS of Crystal, she wouldnt have if it wasnt the real Crystal. So this leads me to feel its true that Crystal has indeed moved on with her life and on to a new man named Bobby..according to her MS page.

..Ron was trashed for supposedly moving on...

Anytime derogatory information comes out regarding Crystal, the posts start about how it doesn't matter, it does nothing to bring Haleigh home etc etc. Last night I did not think it was her page, I'm still iffy. I mean, the link from her page goes directly to Maries, what you can see of it. Is it possible that Marie's page and Crystals original page were cloned? I mean, it doesn't make sense to me why she would post what she has on there, all while her daughter is missing. Leaving enough information out there to cause a stir, yet keeping the rest (blogs, comments, pictures, and friends) private. The myspace has not been taken down, surely by now, the real Crystal knows about this page, yet it remains. You may be right. It may be her..it's quite possible it is.. but I ask WHY? And here's another thing..just a thought though, is Haleigh alive? Is she somewhere.. and Crystal knows where? I mean, I'm just trying to understand how she could have that page, the way it is..with little to no mention of her missing daughter, and blurbs or whatever they are that are ridiculous. It's all so crazy. AND FWIW's I do not blame Ron or Crystal for moving on in their lives at all. The pain they feel will never go away until Haleigh is brought home, they must live life. Ron has been criticized for living life, down to where he ate Thanksgiving dinner. They both deserve to live life to it's fullest, I cannot imagine the true pain they both feel on a daily basis...

[Texas48]

I am sure she glowed with her mother also. I just do not get the bash mom or bash dad or this one is better than that one when no one lived in their homes. JMO
Repectfully Mom..I don't think Justice was bashing one way or the other...her comment was ...*She glowed around her daddy*.....just because Justice didn't mention Crystal's name in NO way means she is bashing.. My goodness..it seems posters want to jump in the wrong direction over an innocent post and then the problem begins.
JMO

[tia marie]

http://pcworld.about.com/od/internetnetworking/Five-Ways-to-Defend-Your-Onlin.htm



. Defend Your Reputation
When it comes to online reputations, people are usually their own worst enemies. Those drunken spring break photos may have been a hoot in college, but they're not so funny when you're prepping for the big job interview. (And if you think employers won't find it, think again: 77 percent of recruiters use search engines to screen prospective job candidates, according to a survey by ExecuNet.) You can delete your Flickr account or your MySpace page, but once this stuff is on the Web, you have no control over what happens to it. If you find nasty stuff floating around that's not under your control, you may have to employ the nuclear option and hire someone to take care of it for you.

[CFMom]

Anytime derogatory information comes out regarding Crystal, the posts start about how it doesn't matter, it does nothing to bring Haleigh home etc etc. Last night I did not think it was her page, I'm still iffy. I mean, the link from her page goes directly to Maries, what you can see of it. Is it possible that Marie's page and Crystals original page were cloned? I mean, it doesn't make sense to me why she would post what she has on there, all while her daughter is missing. Leaving enough information out there to cause a stir, yet keeping the rest (blogs, comments, pictures, and friends) private. The myspace has not been taken down, surely by now, the real Crystal knows about this page, yet it remains. You may be right. It may be her..it's quite possible it is.. but I ask WHY? And here's another thing..just a thought though, is Haleigh alive? Is she somewhere.. and Crystal knows where? I mean, I'm just trying to understand how she could have that page, the way it is..with little to no mention of her missing daughter, and blurbs or whatever they are that are ridiculous. It's all so crazy. AND FWIW's I do not blame Ron or Crystal for moving on in their lives at all. The pain they feel will never go away until Haleigh is brought home, they must live life. Ron has been criticized for living life, down to where he ate Thanksgiving dinner. They both deserve to live life to it's fullest, I cannot imagine the true pain they both feel on a daily basis...

If you are asking my opinion then I will happily share it.

First of all NOTHING we say on this board will help find Haleigh. Its a message board to discuss the case which includes both parents. When the negative about Ron was running ablaze daily it was discussed...and discussed..and even rumor *lies* posted as fact. Now it happens to be a negative against Crystal..I can't imagine why it wouldnt be discussed as well as long as no rules are broken. The positive to this is...least Haleigh is still on peoples minds.

I think its her page and why she'd post such stuff publically only she can answer that. I could never have chosen to put drugs into my body as I was carrying my child either...yet supposedly she did. I often wonder if this Turner syndrome wasn't from drugs...I haven't ever looked into the causes though.

As far as moving on goes..well life does go on even after a death and in some cases..a missing person. We dont stop life. How long depends on the person I'd guess. Some never move on and live in a world of pain forever..some attempt to move forward..some do. I don't fault anyone for how or when they move forward from such a tragedy I just pray to God I am never in their shoes to see how I'd handle it.

I dont think Haleigh is alive. I dont think anyone is holding this beautiful child alive from her parents. I think this poor baby was the victim of some sick horrible person and the only hope I have for Haleigh is JUSTICE. I know in my heart Haleigh is with the Lord ..she is safe.

[CFMom]

http://pcworld.about.com/od/internetnetworking/Five-Ways-to-Defend-Your-Onlin.htm

I hope Ron sees that link. He sure could use it. Many non truths have been put out on the web about him during this case. Many blogs set up to post 'rumors'.

[Motomom]

If you are asking my opinion then I will happily share it.

First of all NOTHING we say on this board will help find Haleigh. Its a message board to discuss the case which includes both parents. When the negative about Ron was running ablaze daily it was discussed...and discussed..and even rumor *lies* posted as fact. Now it happens to be a negative against Crystal..I can't imagine why it wouldnt be discussed as well as long as no rules are broken. The positive to this is...least Haleigh is still on peoples minds.

I think its her page and why she'd post such stuff publically only she can answer that. I could never have chosen to put drugs into my body as I was carrying my child either...yet supposedly she did. I often wonder if this Turner syndrome wasn't from drugs...I haven't ever looked into the causes though.

As far as moving on goes..well life does go on even after a death and in some cases..a missing person. We dont stop life. How long depends on the person I'd guess. Some never move on and live in a world of pain forever..some attempt to move forward..some do. I don't fault anyone for how or when they move forward from such a tragedy I just pray to God I am never in their shoes to see how I'd handle it.

I dont think Haleigh is alive. I dont think anyone is holding this beautiful child alive from her parents. I think this poor baby was the victim of some sick horrible person and the only hope I have for Haleigh is JUSTICE. I know in my heart Haleigh is with the Lord ..she is safe.


I know you don't fault them . I was pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of the entire thing. If this was Ron's website, rest assured, we wouldn't have seen the posts about how it doesn't matter IMO. And I agree with you, NOTHING here will bring her home.

My thoughts are when Ron say he doesn't know.. he really doesn't know. He was at work, he has no clue where his daughter is IMO. Crystal was 2 hours away, Misty..well she may have been sleeping. Until LE comes out with their physical evidence, I just don't know. I flip flop so much in regards to Haleigh alive or dead. All of their behavior has been off IMO and it could just be because..who knows what to do when your child goes missing.

[tia marie]

I hope Ron sees that link. He sure could use it. Many non truths have been put out on the web about him during this case. Many blogs set up to post 'rumors'.



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