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?noanswer
11-27-2009, 09:42 AM
New thread. Hope this works.
Doesn't look like any news as to what happened to Haleigh. Hopefully something will break soon. JMO
grammie/va
11-27-2009, 09:55 AM
Wonder if someone had a guilty minute during the Thanksgiving day and will step up and tell what they know?
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?noanswer
11-27-2009, 10:42 AM
Wonder if someone had a guilty minute during the Thanksgiving day and will step up and tell what they know?
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Probably anyone who would do harm to a child doesn't even celebrate Thanksgiving. I do wish the families could get an answer as to where Haleigh is. Even/when they do get the answers, I doubt if Holidays will ever be the same again for them. JMO
Diamond1
11-27-2009, 11:25 AM
Wonder if someone had a guilty minute during the Thanksgiving day and will step up and tell what they know?
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Apparently not.
Ron spent Thanksgiving with "friends". :thumbdown:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/state_news/112609-A-holiday-without-Haleigh
Tracian
11-27-2009, 11:30 AM
Apparently not.
Ron spent Thanksgiving with "friends". :thumbdown:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/state_news/112609-A-holiday-without-Haleigh
What did Crystal do for Thanksgiving? Ron and Crystal according to LE are not considered suspects....LE has and IMO, continues to focus on Misty, and apparently her upstanding family.
grammie/va
11-27-2009, 12:36 PM
I could care less who Ron or Crystal spent the holiday with. I just want to know where HaLeigh is.
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What did Crystal do for Thanksgiving? Ron and Crystal according to LE are not considered suspects....LE has and IMO, continues to focus on Misty, and apparently her upstanding family.
No word from Crystal or her family on Thanksgiving.Strange.I wonder if the media tried to get some sort of comment from them as they did do an interview with the Cummings side via GGS.
Maybe Crystal was tied up with other plans for the holiday.Marie usually has something to say though if given a chance.
IMO
grammie/va
11-27-2009, 02:22 PM
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I am sure neither set of the family was jumping for joy that it was a holiday, common sense tells me that.
http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m11d26-HaLeigh-Cummings-case-Mistys-father-arrested-questioned-about-missing-Florida-girl-video
Misty's father arrested on other charges, but questioned about Haleigh.
Marrigan
11-27-2009, 03:30 PM
Misty's daddy...
http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091126/ARTICLES/911261044/-1/ENTERTAINMENT?Title=Authorities-plan-to-question-Misty-s-father-about-Haleigh
titanfan217
11-27-2009, 04:12 PM
Apparently not.
Ron spent Thanksgiving with "friends". :thumbdown:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/state_news/112609-A-holiday-without-Haleigh
Who's Papa Jeff?
W_D_1
11-27-2009, 04:30 PM
What did Crystal do for Thanksgiving? Ron and Crystal according to LE are not considered suspects....LE has and IMO, continues to focus on Misty, and apparently her upstanding family.
Had he spent the day volunteering at a soup kitchen I'm sure some would find a way to criticize him.
Themis
11-27-2009, 05:38 PM
Who's Papa Jeff?
That question occurred to me, too, TitanFan. Haleigh's GGM spoke as if every year they all go to Papa Jeff's house for Thanksgiving. That would usually indicate a member of the family or a very close, long time friend who has been given this nickname because of the family's close ties with him. I would imagine he was missing the entire family being at his home yesterday, too. [JMO * Themis]
Justice4all
11-27-2009, 05:39 PM
Apparently not.
Ron spent Thanksgiving with "friends". :thumbdown:
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/state_news/112609-A-holiday-without-Haleigh
Good for Ron. I hope he had a great Thanksgiving. Same to Crystal.
Justice4all
11-27-2009, 05:42 PM
I could care less who Ron or Crystal spent the holiday with. I just want to know where HaLeigh is.
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Amen Same here.
grammie/va
11-27-2009, 06:13 PM
I think that this case is broken down into 3 sets of teams ~~~ 1 is for Ron, and 1 is for Crystal, and 1, the only one that should be important is for HALEIGH.
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baywench
11-27-2009, 06:16 PM
I think that this case is broken down into 3 sets of teams ~~~ 1 is for Ron, and 1 is for Crystal, and 1, the only one that should be important is for HALEIGH.
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So true. I cannot understand the allegiances to someone you have never met. I think alot of people let Haleigh down, starting with her parents and probably ending with Misty. jmo
Tracian
11-27-2009, 06:47 PM
I could care less who Ron or Crystal spent the holiday with. I just want to know where HaLeigh is.
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I have posted three different blogs trying to get through that bashing the parents of a missing child is counter productive, and only hurts the case.
Mainstream media has basically steered clear...no wonder why, if they allow comments on the stories offered, it turns into the destruction of one side of the family or the other.
Misty is only called to question IMO, because she is the only one LE has clearly said, they would like to talk to again, and clear things up.
baywench
11-27-2009, 07:38 PM
Or the hostility toward a parent... LE publicly says is not suspect... with a missing child.
MOO
It is impossible to post anything that isn't turned into a tit for tat. Again, you know Ron how? The case isn't solved so there may very well be a change his and others status. Until then I am not going to bat for him. Misty is the key though. jmo
baywench
11-27-2009, 07:42 PM
I have posted three different blogs trying to get through that bashing the parents of a missing child is counter productive, and only hurts the case.
Mainstream media has basically steered clear...no wonder why, if they allow comments on the stories offered, it turns into the destruction of one side of the family or the other.
Misty is only called to question IMO, because she is the only one LE has clearly said, they would like to talk to again, and clear things up.
It is so frustrating isn't it? No matter what is said it is turned into taking sides. How can you have sides in a missing child case that probably will turn out to be the death of the child? Why not put the energy into "hatin on" Misty. That's where it deserves to be imo
Tracian
11-27-2009, 07:45 PM
It is so frustrating isn't it? No matter what is said it is turned into taking sides. How can you have sides in a missing child case that probably will turn out to be the death of the child? Why not put the energy into "hatin on" Misty. That's where it deserves to be imo
Yes, it is frustrating...as far as Misty...well....
because that has been spun by some, that Misty is just a victim of evil Ron....
HaLeigh has two parents, both of which love her, and no matter how dysfunctional either are, she loves both of them.
If you (collective) are 'here' for HaLeigh, IMO at the very least, honor her love for her parents, until evidence clearly shows otherwise.
To discuss events surrounding either/or is understandable, but the continued bashing over nothing, is why IMO, again, mainstream media has for the most part washed their hands of this case.
baywench
11-27-2009, 08:18 PM
If I wasn't already convinced that Misty staged the call to 911 I was amazed at the difference between that call and the one with her purse being stolen. I do not believe that LE is completely inept, nor do I believe that Misty has them all fooled with her guile, that being the case, what in the world is LE missing that would lead them to file charges? What could it be? jmo
Tracian
11-27-2009, 08:24 PM
If I wasn't already convinced that Misty staged the call to 911 I was amazed at the difference between that call and the one with her purse being stolen. I do not believe that LE is completely inept, nor do I believe that Misty has them all fooled with her guile, that being the case, what in the world is LE missing that would lead them to file charges? What could it be? jmo
I have thought long and hard on that too. The only thing I can think of is that they need that one extra piece of evidence, or that one witness that can give them enough cause to arrest her, and keep her on high bail.
I think it is clear that it is the Croslin's that LE has been squeezing. I have not heard of them traveling to different states to interview either the Sheffield or the Cummings side of the families...but they did take their show on the road between interviews and arrests.
baywench
11-27-2009, 08:31 PM
I have thought long and hard on that too. The only thing I can think of is that they need that one extra piece of evidence, or that one witness that can give them enough cause to arrest her, and keep her on high bail.
I think it is clear that it is the Croslin's that LE has been squeezing. I have not heard of them traveling to different states to interview either the Sheffield or the Cummings side of the families...but they did take their show on the road between interviews and arrests.
I hope that they are squeezing the Croslins because they have some information or inkling that they really do know something. I hope it is not just a shot in the dark....anymore come out of the MA interviews?
Tracian
11-27-2009, 08:47 PM
I hope that they are squeezing the Croslins because they have some information or inkling that they really do know something. I hope it is not just a shot in the dark....anymore come out of the MA interviews?
Nothing that was offered to the media...gee wonder why? :rolleyes:
I honestly think that the infighting and various 'in the know' blogs really messed up this case.
baywench
11-27-2009, 08:58 PM
Nothing that was offered to the media...gee wonder why? :rolleyes:
I honestly think that the infighting and various 'in the know' blogs really messed up this case.
You may have hit the nail on the head. So many side circuses and bloodsuckers on both sides. I've decided I like Nancy Grace so much more when she is not there. I wonder if this is a trend. Why not have an update from LE on how the tips are going, if they have any new leads etc? jmo
Tracian
11-27-2009, 09:27 PM
You may have hit the nail on the head. So many side circuses and bloodsuckers on both sides. I've decided I like Nancy Grace so much more when she is not there. I wonder if this is a trend. Why not have an update from LE on how the tips are going, if they have any new leads etc? jmo
Just my feeling, and this is going to sound stupid, I think...that either LE feels this case is cold, unless Misty breaks...or they have a real good idea, and are very close but don't want to scare off anyone or shut anyone down.
The way this case has been twisted, IMO, LE is afraid to say almost anything, because bloggers have taken a small statement and turned it into something completely different than what they said.
I can't help but remember, when Tim broke about Misty failing her tests with him...LE was not jumping up and down, their statement was vague, "It's nothing we didn't already suspect, or know" but they really didn't want to offer much more than that.
If LE has a person or persons in their sights, they will not risk offering anything to the public..it gets distorted to quickly.
kelloggirl
11-27-2009, 09:31 PM
If I wasn't already convinced that Misty staged the call to 911 I was amazed at the difference between that call and the one with her purse being stolen. I do not believe that LE is completely inept, nor do I believe that Misty has them all fooled with her guile, that being the case, what in the world is LE missing that would lead them to file charges? What could it be? jmo
I don't post often on this case, but I too was very interested in the level of distress and genuine upset heard in the recent robbery call versus the original 911 call reporting Haleigh missing. The original 911 call was not that bad as far as potentially fake 911 calls go, but with something to compare it to it really increases my already high suspicions about Misty.
I really don't have a coherent working theory of what happened that fits the "known facts" - many of which seem to be in flux anyway depending upon who you choose to believe; however, I do not consider it out of the realm of possibility that Misty, and Misty alone, was responsible for deliberately harming Haleigh. It's not a theory I see discussed very often here although it seems LE certainly thinks it might be, just reading between the lines. Didn't her and Ron have a big fight the night of Haleigh's disappearance? It is not uncommon for boyfriends or ex-boyfriends to harm/kill the children of woman they are fighting with/breaking up with/mad at as direct retribution. Or out of jealousy for attention and love. Is it possible that she wanted to hurt Ron in the worst way possible? Personally, I don't discount anyone from being incapable or unlikely to commit a heinous crime anymore just because of their gender or their age. I have read too many stories in the news and on this board about female/young killers like Melissa Huckaby or the 15-year old female killer of 9-yr old Elizabeth Olten or the various teens who kill their parents, to have developed a blind eye to stereotypical profiles of who seems or looks like a bad guy.
As to help with any coverup and what happened afterwards and who might've known about it after the fact and why Misty and Ron got married if it's true, I have no idea or explanations - it seems like a giant, dysfuntional mess of complex issues and a bunch of hangers-ons and players muddying the waters while poor Haleigh gets lost in the noise.
:rose: Haleigh, wishing you peace, wherever you are. :rose:
Tracian
11-27-2009, 10:02 PM
What gets me the most is when people don't seem to have heard Ron's own attorney on the Nancy Grace show say that Ron hadn't been cleared that he was low on a very short list of people that are suspects.
That and the fact that Haleigh still is missing.
LE has not cleared anyone, but they did say that they don't consider either of the bio parents suspects.
Ron's attorney made it clear, that until it is known what happened, no one is ever really 'cleared' that has been offered over and over with the transcripts.
TaraCrazyHair
11-27-2009, 11:13 PM
Probably anyone who would do harm to a child doesn't even celebrate Thanksgiving. I do wish the families could get an answer as to where Haleigh is. Even/when they do get the answers, I doubt if Holidays will ever be the same again for them. JMO
Yikes! BBM
That is what I thought yesterday when I read Ron spent Thanksgiving with friends instead of family... because it was "too hard"
I know your thinking differently but is it really?
TaraCrazyHair
11-27-2009, 11:17 PM
I hope that they are squeezing the Croslins because they have some information or inkling that they really do know something. I hope it is not just a shot in the dark....anymore come out of the MA interviews?
My thinking was LE was hoping to learn more about Misty through family
TaraCrazyHair
11-27-2009, 11:27 PM
Good for Ron. I hope he had a great Thanksgiving. Same to Crystal.
Can't say I feel the same?
Avoiding family during holiday celebrations is kind of ominous to me
(shrug)
Justice4all
11-27-2009, 11:31 PM
Can't say I feel the same?
Avoiding family during holiday celebrations is kind of ominous to me
(shrug)
Some times friends are closer then family members.
If i was in the Croslin, Cummings or Sheffield family I would want to be around my friends instead of my family.
moo
Justice4all
11-27-2009, 11:33 PM
Yikes! BBM
That is what I thought yesterday when I read Ron spent Thanksgiving with friends instead of family... because it was "too hard"
I know your thinking differently but is it really?
What makes you think Ron didn't celebrate Thanksgiving?
TaraCrazyHair
11-27-2009, 11:37 PM
What makes you think Ron didn't celebrate Thanksgiving?
I am sure he did in his own special way
TaraCrazyHair
11-27-2009, 11:38 PM
Some times friends are closer then family members.
If i was in the Croslin, Cummings or Sheffield family I would want to be around my friends instead of my family.
moo
Did he have Jr with him?
I am wondering
TaraCrazyHair
11-27-2009, 11:41 PM
Not to mention if he felt being around family was too hard on Thanksgiving ... what is he going to do for Christmas
TaraCrazyHair
11-27-2009, 11:56 PM
I don't know Ron and I'm not "going to bat" for him or any of the others mired in this heartbreaking mess.
LE has said Ron and Crystal are not suspect.
Both deserve compassion and sympathies until (or if) their status changes during the course of the investigation.
MOO
"Not considered suspects at this time" was the wording, correct?
Far difference from "cleared as suspects" or just plain "not suspects"
So I am not going to bat for any of them until i hear those words
Moo
TaraCrazyHair
11-28-2009, 12:13 AM
LE says not suspect.
Please don't be offended but I'll go with them instead of your twists and turns. :smile:
MOO
Straight from the horse's mouth (so to speak)
At this point, the evidence and investigatory effort has minimized the likelihood that Haleigh’s disappearance is the work of a stranger. There is no specific individual whom investigators have identified as a person of interest. The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case. Investigators believe that Misty Croslin-Cummings continues to hold important answers in the case. She has failed to provide any sort of detailed accounting of the hours during the late evening and early morning of Haleigh’s disappearance. Furthermore, physical evidence at the scene contradicts Misty’s sketchy account of her evening activities. Any citizen with direct knowledge of Misty’s activities during that evening or into the early morning is encouraged to report that information to the Putnam County Sheriff’s Office.
http://www.pcso.us/2009-8-17-a
No twisting and turning
"Not considered"
Mo.Gramma
11-28-2009, 12:18 AM
Yes, it is frustrating...as far as Misty...well....
because that has been spun by some, that Misty is just a victim of evil Ron....
HaLeigh has two parents, both of which love her, and no matter how dysfunctional either are, she loves both of them.
If you (collective) are 'here' for HaLeigh, IMO at the very least, honor her love for her parents, until evidence clearly shows otherwise.
To discuss events surrounding either/or is understandable, but the continued bashing over nothing, is why IMO, again, mainstream media has for the most part washed their hands of this case.Very well said, Tracian!
Mo.Gramma
11-28-2009, 12:19 AM
I don't know Ron and I'm not "going to bat" for him or any of the others mired in this heartbreaking mess.
LE has said Ron and Crystal are not suspect.
Both deserve compassion and sympathies until (or if) their status changes during the course of the investigation.
MOO
I agree, RR....and we're still praying for Haleigh in Missouri!:rose:
Justice4all
11-28-2009, 12:37 AM
Did he have Jr with him?
I am wondering
I have no clue.........Do you?
TaraCrazyHair
11-28-2009, 12:52 AM
I have no clue.........Do you?
Nope
Which would you expect?
With or without JR?
Keeping in mind that Haleigh's birthday would be the hardest day Ron should have to face next to the day she went missing?
At least in my opinion
teresa
11-28-2009, 02:42 AM
It's my understanding, imo, that this was RC's year to have Jr for TG. He, Jr and TN went to eat at a friend's and later Ron & Jr went to visit a friend of Ron's.
It's interesting to me now that it seems public that CS has a new BF that Marie says now that all people want to do is trash Haleigh's Mommy AND Daddy. She's done pretty well at that herself on the Daddy part. She also says Haleigh is being hidden away, they just don't know where. It sounds like the families are on the same page now. I pray they are right and Haleigh is found safe.
5boxersmom
11-28-2009, 02:54 AM
It's my understanding, imo, that this was RC's year to have Jr for TG. He, Jr and TN went to eat at a friend's and later Ron & Jr went to visit a friend of Ron's.
It's interesting to me now that it seems public that CS has a new BF that Marie says now that all people want to do is trash Haleigh's Mommy AND Daddy. She's done pretty well at that herself on the Daddy part. She also says Haleigh is being hidden away, they just don't know where. It sounds like the families are on the same page now. I pray they are right and Haleigh is found safe.
CS has a new boyfriend? Wow wonder how that works out considering where she and CG live?
I so hope HaLeigh is alive and be hidden. It would be the best outcome that could happen in this case. Who would have her hidden?
jmo
What did Crystal do for Thanksgiving? Ron and Crystal according to LE are not considered suspects....LE has and IMO, continues to focus on Misty, and apparently her upstanding family.
it's possible Crystal & her family wanted a quiet Thanksgiving, & wanted to be left alone...maybe it's why we haven't heard anything about their 'holiday'...had to be a rough day, for anyone who cared for Haleigh:(
just4justice
11-28-2009, 06:04 AM
IIRC, Misty will soon have her eighteenth birthday. LE has arrested all the rest of the family except the brother in Mass. and Misty. Wonder if they are waiting for her eighteenth birthday???? I guess that might very well coincide with the FA's prediction of Haleigh being found January 10th.
Just a thought.
aproudmom
11-28-2009, 09:32 AM
What did Crystal do for Thanksgiving? Ron and Crystal according to LE are not considered suspects....LE has and IMO, continues to focus on Misty, and apparently her upstanding family.
I really dont care what any of them did or who they ate with IMO it wont bring Haleigh home. I do wish they could arrest Misty instead of all her family members to bad she has not got caught breaking the law put her in a cell and see if she will cough up some more info. JMO
just4justice
11-28-2009, 11:13 AM
Does anyone here know just when Misty's birthday is? The more I think about her being close to the age of majority the more I'm thinking that's what LE is waiting for. They have already stated that they'll be on the Croslin's tails for along time to come. I hope that's the plan and they arrest her on her eighteenth birthday. Maybe she'll sing like a little canary.:unsure:
Chica
11-28-2009, 11:23 AM
IIRC, Misty will soon have her eighteenth birthday. LE has arrested all the rest of the family except the brother in Mass. and Misty. Wonder if they are waiting for her eighteenth birthday???? I guess that might very well coincide with the FA's prediction of Haleigh being found January 10th.
Just a thought.
That is an interesting theory. I wonder if LE tactics are different when one is a minor? Wouldn't that be something if LE was waiting for Misty to turn 18? I read FA, too. Good thinking!
Justice4all
11-28-2009, 11:36 AM
Does anyone here know just when Misty's birthday is? The more I think about her being close to the age of majority the more I'm thinking that's what LE is waiting for. They have already stated that they'll be on the Croslin's tails for along time to come. I hope that's the plan and they arrest her on her eighteenth birthday. Maybe she'll sing like a little canary.:unsure:
Dec 9th............
tia marie
11-28-2009, 11:45 AM
It's my understanding, imo, that this was RC's year to have Jr for TG. He, Jr and TN went to eat at a friend's and later Ron & Jr went to visit a friend of Ron's.
It's interesting to me now that it seems public that CS has a new BF that Marie says now that all people want to do is trash Haleigh's Mommy AND Daddy. She's done pretty well at that herself on the Daddy part. She also says Haleigh is being hidden away, they just don't know where. It sounds like the families are on the same page now. I pray they are right and Haleigh is found safe.
Can you possibly provide a link that CS "has a new boyfriend"?
Justice4all
11-28-2009, 12:47 PM
Can you possibly provide a link that CS "has a new boyfriend"?
It's on her myspace.
tia marie
11-28-2009, 12:57 PM
It's on her myspace.
The jury is still out as to that being CS's myspace.
SilentSanity
11-28-2009, 01:04 PM
The jury is still out as to that being CS's myspace.
Yes I know but it seems odd to me that her original MS is friends with this MS, along with some of her "MS friends". She has commented on a MS associated with this new one (thru her orginal MS).
There's no doubt she knows the people on this new Myspace. And it's up to CS to decide who she accepts friendship from. So, Idk :confused:
Strange to say the least. Odd associations she has, whether on not that is really hers, she is really friends with these people. I mean come on, who considers the Anthony family as Heros!! GMAB. That's just not right..
Chica
11-28-2009, 01:06 PM
IMO it doesn't matter how old Misty is if arrested.
If she is ever charged, goes to trial and found guilty.. she will face penalties for the age she was at the time of the crime.
Even if she is 50 when arrested...
MOO
That is not what I meant. I mean IF she is arrested as a minor would she be held and questioned by LE differently than if she is arrested as an adult. Would the questioning by LE be different? As a minor, I would think LE might have more obstacles for questioning her.
Tracian
11-28-2009, 01:07 PM
The jury is still out as to that being CS's myspace.
It may or may not be, this is quite true; however, whoever's it is has friends that are obviously following the Haleigh case.
Justice4all
11-28-2009, 01:07 PM
The jury is still out as to that being CS's myspace.
I'm talking about her old one. I've been on her friends list since march.
Tracian
11-28-2009, 01:08 PM
That is not what I meant. I mean IF she is arrested as a minor would she be held and questioned by LE differently than if she is arrested as an adult. Would the questioning by LE be different? As a minor, I would think LE might have more obstacles for questioning her.
Either way, the obstacle is her lawyer.
dustyk
11-28-2009, 01:09 PM
Are people really requesting friendship on Crystal's My Space to come back and report her status on these message boards. If so surely she is aware and careful what to put out there. Never have i seen the desire to befriend the mother of a missing child and invade her privacy to use against her. Truly Sad. JMO
Tracian
11-28-2009, 01:10 PM
I'm talking about her old one. I've been on her friends list since march.
does that bobby person appear there too?
Tracian
11-28-2009, 01:12 PM
Are people really requesting friendship on Crystal's My Space to come back and report her status on these message boards. If so surely she is aware and careful what to put out there. Never have i seen the desire to befriend the mother of a missing child and invade her privacy to use against her. Truly Sad. JMO
just as bad as bloggers stalking Ron and taking pictures of him at his house? Befriending him, and then sharing with bloggers private conversations?
dustyk
11-28-2009, 01:13 PM
just as bad as bloggers stalking Ron and taking pictures of him at his house? Befriending him, and then sharing with bloggers private conversations?
Oh... so two wrongs make a right in this case. JMO
Tracian
11-28-2009, 01:17 PM
Oh... so two wrongs make a right in this case. JMO
No, I am just saying that at times it seems that when it comes to Ron that is just the breaks, when it comes to Crystal people cry 'foul'.
dustyk
11-28-2009, 01:20 PM
No, I am just saying that at times it seems that when it comes to Ron that is just the breaks, when it comes to Crystal people cry 'foul'.
And what I guess I am saying is why tear down the mother just because some tear down the father. It is really confusing Ron and Crystal seem to be on good terms right now and on the same side, but when some blogger says something about him the recourse is to tear down the mother when they don't seem to be fighting. Really confusing. JMO
SilentSanity
11-28-2009, 01:23 PM
Are people really requesting friendship on Crystal's My Space to come back and report her status on these message boards. If so surely she is aware and careful what to put out there. Never have i seen the desire to befriend the mother of a missing child and invade her privacy to use against her. Truly Sad. JMO
I was referring to the public MS. I did not need to befriend her to see it, nor did I invade anybody's privacy. There really is no need to do all that to find something to use against her, IMO. She puts it all out there herself...
Although, if we're talking about possible revelancy to HaLeigh, I do think that Crystal's associations could be considered more relevant than who and where Ron shared his TG dinner with. JMO.
Tracian
11-28-2009, 01:26 PM
And what I guess I am saying is why tear down the mother just because some tear down the father. It is really confusing Ron and Crystal seem to be on good terms right now and on the same side, but when some blogger says something about him the recourse is to tear down the mother when they don't seem to be fighting. Really confusing. JMO
If you look back at other posts on this thread, you will see I agree with you.
dustyk
11-28-2009, 01:41 PM
I was referring to the public MS. I did not need to befriend her to see it, nor did I invade anybody's privacy. There really is no need to do all that to find something to use against her, IMO. She puts it all out there herself...
Although, if we're talking about possible revelancy to HaLeigh, I do think that Crystal's associations could be considered more relevant than who and where Ron shared his TG dinner with. JMO.
So I guess what you are saying it is more enjoyable to bash Crystal instead of concern for Haleigh...Carry on.JMO
SilentSanity
11-28-2009, 02:44 PM
So I guess what you are saying it is more enjoyable to bash Crystal instead of concern for Haleigh...Carry on.JMO
Really? I said that? I guess you will need to refresh my memory by pointing out the post # where I said that :ohmy:
I am not a poster who bashes anyone involved, if you take the time to read the posts I have made here. Now if you consider stating actual facts as bashing, then we will just have to agree to disagree.
I call it like I see it, it seems to like some people simply find the truth too bitter a pill to swallow. IMO.
What I did in fact say in my post to you was a clarification that there is a public MS that did not neccisitate my invading anybodys privacy to post what I posted.
I feel the need to point that out since you have clearly misintepreted the meaning of my post, for whatever reason :thumbdown:
ETA: I won't hold my breath on the post #. I think it's safe to say that post is non-existent...but good luck finding it!
Justice4all
11-28-2009, 02:47 PM
Really? I said that? I guess you will need to refresh my memory by pointing out the post # where I said that :ohmy:
I am not a poster who bashes anyone involved, if you take the time to read the posts I have made here. Now if you consider stating actual facts as bashing, then we will just have to agree to disagree.
I call it like I see it, it seems to like some people simply find the truth too bitter a pill to swallow. IMO.
What I did in fact say in my post to you was a clarification that there is a public MS that did not neccisitate my invading anybodys privacy to post what I posted.
I feel the need to point that out since you have clearly misintepreted the meaning of my post, for whatever reason :thumbdown:
I've never seen you bash Crystal or Ron.
SilentSanity
11-28-2009, 02:57 PM
I've never seen you bash Crystal or Ron.
Thank you for noticing :) I couldn't help but be a little insulted after reading that. I mostly just post here to answer another's posters question, or to point out something I consider to be mis-information. I have never posted just to "bash" someone.
Seems to me that some who post facts that reflects somebody in a negative light are considered "bashers".
I am here for HaLeigh. I believe my posts here reflect that and I stand by that.
dustyk
11-28-2009, 03:11 PM
Thank you for noticing :) I couldn't help but be a little insulted after reading that. I mostly just post here to answer another's posters question, or to point out something I consider to be mis-information. I have never posted just to "bash" someone.
Seems to me that some who post facts that reflects somebody in a negative light are considered "bashers".
I am here for HaLeigh. I believe my posts here reflect that and I stand by that.
So please explain the need to post facts that reflect anyone in a negative light, unless it is the person responsible for harming or removing Haleigh. How can anyone say they are here for Haleigh and post negatively about her parents? JMO
SilentSanity
11-28-2009, 03:22 PM
So please explain the need to post facts that reflect anyone in a negative light, unless it is the person responsible for harming or removing Haleigh. How can anyone say they are here for Haleigh and post negatively about her parents? JMO
Umm, were you following the thread? Another poster brought up the MS and someone questioned the validity of it. All I did was throw my 2 cents in about how it was unusual that she befriended this fake MS if it is fake. You see negativity about Crystal in that?! That is apparently "bashing" in your eyes? :rolleyes:
Yes, I believe in discussing facts (as opposed to rumors/gossip). Are we to avoid all facts that reflect Ron and Crystal in a negative light? Sorry, I didn't get that memo lol. I'm not here to solve the case but discuss it. If you see a post you don't agree with, I recommend the skip and scroll method.
I always keep in mind that at some point in the far future JR (and hopefully HaLeigh) may be reading the info put out there, and post accordingly as they don't need to see their parents ripped to shreds on the internet. Maybe you should direct your posts to posters who have not kept that in mind these 9 months as I have.
dustyk
11-28-2009, 03:27 PM
Umm, were you following the thread? Another poster brought up the MS and someone questioned the validity of it. All I did was throw my 2 cents in about how it was unusual that she befriended this fake MS if it is fake. You see negativity about Crystal in that?! That is apparently "bashing" in your eyes? :rolleyes:
Yes, I believe in discussing facts (as opposed to rumors/gossip). Are we to avoid all facts that reflect Ron and Crystal in a negative light? Sorry, I didn't get that memo lol. I'm not here to solve the case but discuss it. If you see a post you don't agree with, I recommend the skip and scroll method.
I always keep in mind that at some point in the far future JR (and hopefully HaLeigh) may be reading the info put out there, and post accordingly as they don't need to see their parents ripped to shreds on the internet. Maybe you should direct your posts to posters who have not kept that in mind these 9 months as I have.
Really don't recall requested any recommendations...glad you are not trying to solve but discussing because what does CS MS have to do with anything. Analyzing the parents is not necessary IMO
5boxersmom
11-28-2009, 03:29 PM
Well, I look at it this way. They know their MS's are being looked at and yes even discussed. If they cared they would set the whole thing to private. I don't just mean CS, I mean everyone who sets up a MS.
Listening to the story of the little 2 year old in Fl that was just found in a septic tank at the mobile home park where he lived, I wonder if there is anything like that around where HaLeigh went missing?
jmo
Mentioning Crystal possibly having a new bf =no no
Ron possibly dating a pole dancer=A-ok
Funny how this is supposed to work.
I'm hopeful that LE is waiting for Misty to turn 18,and will then be able to apply some heat on her to get her to tell what she knows...if anything.
She has an attorney,but LE may still be able to get something from her.
IMO
Well, I look at it this way. They know their MS's are being looked at and yes even discussed. If they cared they would set the whole thing to private. I don't just mean CS, I mean everyone who sets up a MS.
Listening to the story of the little 2 year old in Fl that was just found in a septic tank at the mobile home park where he lived, I wonder if there is anything like that around where HaLeigh went missing?
jmo
I'm trying to remember what was searched when that woman dropped off a tip at the newspaper.I recall that they did some digging underground around the MH,but my mind is a blank after that.lol
IMO
dustyk
11-28-2009, 03:40 PM
Well, I look at it this way. They know their MS's are being looked at and yes even discussed. If they cared they would set the whole thing to private. I don't just mean CS, I mean everyone who sets up a MS.
Listening to the story of the little 2 year old in Fl that was just found in a septic tank at the mobile home park where he lived, I wonder if there is anything like that around where HaLeigh went missing?
jmo
ITA about the MS thing and halfway believe she is having some fun with internet bloggers. JMO
5boxersmom
11-28-2009, 03:41 PM
I'm trying to remember what was searched when that woman dropped off a tip at the newspaper.I recall that they did some digging underground around the MH,but my mind is a blank after that.lol
IMO
Oh I forgot about that. It was an old well wasn't it?
jmo
5boxersmom
11-28-2009, 03:42 PM
ITA about the MS thing and halfway believe she is having some fun with internet bloggers. JMO
Could be. :shrug: But once it is out there, it is there forever.
jmo
Oh I forgot about that. It was an old well wasn't it?
jmo
Might have been....I know there were directions in the tip and a map,but can't recall now what it was they were searching.
IMO
5boxersmom
11-28-2009, 03:45 PM
Might have been....I know there were directions in the tip and a map,but can't recall now what it was they were searching.
IMO
Never did here anything more about that guy did we? Strange.
jmo
Never did here anything more about that guy did we? Strange.
jmo
Yes it was.I'm glad LE followed up on the tip.They seemed excited about it at the time.
IMO
Oh I forgot about that. It was an old well wasn't it?
jmo
It was a well that was searched from the tip.I just found it in the links section on pg 13.So much has happened with the back and forth with all the parties, and little information from LE to keep it all straight.
Good question earlier about the septic tank.If they had limited time would it be difficult to put a person inside one?
5boxersmom
11-28-2009, 04:44 PM
It was a well that was searched from the tip.I just found it in the links section on pg 13.So much has happened with the back and forth with all the parties, and little information from LE to keep it all straight.
Good question earlier about the septic tank.If they had limited time would it be difficult to put a person inside one?
I don't think so. We have one and it is a concrete lid that covers it.
The little boy they found today fell in a hole of an old one. Sounded to me like the cover was gone. Some old ones are metal and rust away. Or the ground caves in around them.
Just something new to think about.
jmo
I don't think so. We have one and it is a concrete lid that covers it.
The little boy they found today fell in a hole of an old one. Sounded to me like the cover was gone. Some old ones are metal and rust away. Or the ground caves in around them.
Just something new to think about.
jmo
It sure is something to think about.I hadn't read anything about the incident with the child that was found inside one.I hope LE checked it out in this case.
I hear so much about missing children and a lot of times they are found,so I do wonder if LE in this case took it seriously right off the bat,and took proper measures to preserve any and all evidence from when they first pulled up on the scene.
IMO
SilentSanity
11-28-2009, 05:13 PM
Mentioning Crystal possibly having a new bf =no no
Ron possibly dating a pole dancer=A-ok
Funny how this is supposed to work.
I'm hopeful that LE is waiting for Misty to turn 18,and will then be able to apply some heat on her to get her to tell what she knows...if anything.
She has an attorney,but LE may still be able to get something from her.
IMO
You are so very right! Something tells me if a poster perceived my post to be negative about Ron, certain posters would not have called me on it. And I say perceived because that's all it was. People seeing things in a post that are not even there.
It is funny how that works, huh?
I'm not so sure that I believe LE is waiting for Misty to turn 18, but I sure do hope you are right about that! Maybe then we will finally see some forward movement in this case. It's been far too long :sad:
5boxersmom
11-28-2009, 05:21 PM
It sure is something to think about.I hadn't read anything about the incident with the child that was found inside one.I hope LE checked it out in this case.
I hear so much about missing children and a lot of times they are found,so I do wonder if LE in this case took it seriously right off the bat,and took proper measures to preserve any and all evidence from when they first pulled up on the scene.
IMO
Wonder if the Mobile Home Park where they lived has septics or are they hooked up to a sewer? Or if any old septics are around there?
jmo
baywench
11-28-2009, 05:28 PM
Are people really requesting friendship on Crystal's My Space to come back and report her status on these message boards. If so surely she is aware and careful what to put out there. Never have i seen the desire to befriend the mother of a missing child and invade her privacy to use against her. Truly Sad. JMO
True that is pathetic. But never have I seen the mother of missing child who has put herself out there like Crystal has. She doesn't exactly shun away from a buck or a camera. That's sad too. jmo
You are so very right! Something tells me if a poster perceived my post to be negative about Ron, certain posters would not have called me on it. And I say perceived because that's all it was. People seeing things in a post that are not even there.
It is funny how that works, huh?
I'm not so sure that I believe LE is waiting for Misty to turn 18, but I sure do hope you are right about that! Maybe then we will finally see some forward movement in this case. It's been far too long :sad:
Yeah...it's not like we mentioned anything about bondage....oops.lol.
Seriously though,I think everyone that had contact with Haleigh should be discussed,but it's the way some go about it that causes problems.Early on in this case on this very board,RC was called scum,lowlife and more.He and his entire family were made fun of, from their hairstyle to their manner of speaking,but dare to bring up legitimate discussion on Chad,Marie or Crystal and there was uproar from some posters.
Regarding Misty,I think LE will have more options as far as what they can do once she hits 18....I hope so anyway.
IMO
Wonder if the Mobile Home Park where they lived has septics or are they hooked up to a sewer? Or if any old septics are around there?
jmo
Not sure.I do recall reading somewhere about septic tanks and mobile homes....so maybe septic systems are common for use in MH?
IMO
stevies_mom
11-28-2009, 06:13 PM
Not sure.I do recall reading somewhere about septic tanks and mobile homes....so maybe septic systems are common for use in MH?
IMO
From my experience it only depends on where you live. If you live where the city supplies water and sewer then you are hooked up to city lines. If you live in the country where there are no sewer lines you have a well and septic tank. This applies to any type of home...not just mobile homes.
From my experience it only depends on where you live. If you live where the city supplies water and sewer then you are hooked up to city lines. If you live in the country where there are no sewer lines you have a well and septic tank. This applies to any type of home...not just mobile homes.
Thanks for the information.I live in the city so I wasn't sure how septic systems are set up,or the locations.Your explanation makes sense.
IMO
FoxySly
11-28-2009, 06:49 PM
Not sure.I do recall reading somewhere about septic tanks and mobile homes....so maybe septic systems are common for use in MH?
IMO
Septic tanks are usually for those who live in places that don't have city water & sewage or didn't when the home was built or put in there.
Everyone out here has their own septic tanks & water wells, we have an average of 1 person per square mile. In fact I live on my own street (which is really a circle).
I don't know the laws in Florida but here we have to have at the very least 1 1/4 acres to build as the septic needs to be at least that far from the water well.
Sly
eta: I see SM answered too
W_D_1
11-28-2009, 07:35 PM
So please explain the need to post facts that reflect anyone in a negative light, unless it is the person responsible for harming or removing Haleigh. How can anyone say they are here for Haleigh and post negatively about her parents? JMO
This is some kind of joke right after everything you have posted about Ron???
FoxySly
11-28-2009, 07:49 PM
This is some kind of joke right after everything you have posted about Ron???
Oh my! That's indeed a strange post you quoted!!!
I have seen hundreds of their posts just in quotes & just on the IS board spewing UNTRUTHS & now this???
VERY, VERY STRANGE INDEED!!!
TRUTHS about crystal bad, can't help HaLeigh's case BUT thousands of KNOWINGLY POSTING UNTRUTHS about Ron a good thing & can help HaLeigh???
What kind of logic is that??? :confused:
And I have been told by doctors that have LOTS of letters after their names say that even normal Children should KNOW the difference between right & wrong by age 5.
Sly
~
panman
11-28-2009, 08:05 PM
The jury is still out as to that being CS's myspace.
How do you separate Crystals old MS from the new one when the info is the same?
panman
11-28-2009, 08:06 PM
This is some kind of joke right after everything you have posted about Ron???
Has to be a joke since we can all go back read the old posts.
baywench
11-28-2009, 08:26 PM
I hope we get some news soon. We are deteriorating into camps again. jmo
panman
11-28-2009, 08:30 PM
I hope we get some news soon. We are deteriorating into camps again. jmo
I am not in a camp. I have always said I don't believe Ron nor Crystal had anything to do with Haleigh being missing. But Ron has been bashed forever and some just don't want to believe some of things they are hearing about Crystal. Its doesn't mean bashing but discussing it IMO.
grammie/va
11-28-2009, 08:48 PM
Where is HaLeigh? That is the side I am on, the parents are big boys and girls and can fend for themselves, HaLeigh was a 5 year old kid. Who was fending for her?
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baywench
11-28-2009, 08:59 PM
I am not in a camp. I have always said I don't believe Ron nor Crystal had anything to do with Haleigh being missing. But Ron has been bashed forever and some just don't want to believe some of things they are hearing about Crystal. Its doesn't mean bashing but discussing it IMO.
Truthfully panman I had a lapse from the start of posting this so I never saw your posts! Not directed at anyone in particular. I think it is all Misty all the time. I don't think either Ron or Crystal was involved. jmo
grammie/va
11-28-2009, 09:03 PM
Truthfully panman I had a lapse from the start of posting this so I never saw your posts! Not directed at anyone in particular. I think it is all Misty all the time. I don't think either Ron or Crystal was involved. jmo
BBM
I agree with the bolded sentence.
baywench
11-28-2009, 09:11 PM
That always happens when a few posters drift back through IS...
MOO
Did I just get spanked?
panman
11-28-2009, 09:12 PM
Truthfully panman I had a lapse from the start of posting this so I never saw your posts! Not directed at anyone in particular. I think it is all Misty all the time. I don't think either Ron or Crystal was involved. jmo
With hardly any facts out there, there is still too many possibilities for me to stick with one target.
TaraCrazyHair
11-28-2009, 09:40 PM
IMO it doesn't matter how old Misty is if arrested.
If she is ever charged, goes to trial and found guilty.. she will face penalties for the age she was at the time of the crime.
Even if she is 50 when arrested...
MOO
Not always
Look at Michael Skakel
And juveniles are charged as adults these days
Just easier I think to wait until they are 18 to make the arrest
Tracian
11-28-2009, 09:42 PM
IMO it doesn't matter how old Misty is if arrested.
If she is ever charged, goes to trial and found guilty.. she will face penalties for the age she was at the time of the crime.
Even if she is 50 when arrested...
MOO
It depends on how the person is charged. At 12 some have been charged as adults.
W_D_1
11-28-2009, 09:53 PM
Not always
Look at Michael Skakel
And juveniles are charged as adults these days
Just easier I think to wait until they are 18 to make the arrest
The only advantage I see for police waiting to arrest her is that her parents wouldn't be present for questioning. Other than that there is no reason to wait. She can be charged and tried as an adult and the DP will never be applicable because of her age at the time Haleigh disappeared.
TaraCrazyHair
11-28-2009, 09:56 PM
The only advantage I see for police waiting to arrest her is that her parents wouldn't be present for questioning. Other than that there is no reason to wait. She can be charged and tried as an adult and the DP will never be applicable because of her age at the time Haleigh disappeared.
Arresting her as a minor provides her certain leeway adults do not get on arrest
Depends on how much LE wants from her on arrest
Moo
W_D_1
11-28-2009, 10:07 PM
Arresting her as a minor provides her certain leeway adults do not get on arrest
Depends on how much LE wants from her on arrest
Moo
I believe the marriage changed all of that.
TaraCrazyHair
11-28-2009, 10:43 PM
I believe the marriage changed all of that.
Not so certain
Look at the recent arrest report ... her name was redacted out, for being a minor?
Santa'sMom
11-29-2009, 02:55 AM
Misty's already figured out that they can't make her talk. All she has to do is simply refuse to answer questions or to bring up her lawyer. LE is not allowed to torture people to make them talk. If she chooses not to answer questions, then her age isn't going to make a difference.
Regarding the septic tanks, some mobile home parks have their own sewage treatment plants. I don't think the one Ronald and Misty lived in was that large but being that close to the river, they may have been required to have one. Just a thought.
Arresting her as a minor provides her certain leeway adults do not get on arrest
Depends on how much LE wants from her on arrest
Moo
Well if you ask me just the thought in her 17 year old mind that turning 18 could get her arrested, gives me some kind of satisfaction. Let her worry about that.
Perhaps she really will be treated differently.
just4justice
11-29-2009, 07:20 AM
I can't help thinking that once she turns eighteen they will be constantly watching every move she makes (they prolly are now, but waiting to move in for the kill so to speak) and they will arrest her as often as they feel they can. I don't think she will hold up well incarcerated. LE has made it clear they will continue to arrest the Croslins every time they crook their finger. One thing is for sure.....we won't have to wait very long to see. If her birthday is the 8th things might get rather exciting in Dysfunction Junction real soon. :wink:
just4justice
11-29-2009, 07:37 AM
Just one more thing. As my nic implies I just want justice for Haleigh. I, as I'm sure everyone else here does, want Haleigh to be found and given a proper burial and whoever committed this most heinous crime given the maximum sentence allowed by law. I don't care how they go about finding what happened. I don't care who they take down in the process. Anyone involved in anyway deserves the worst possible punishment. It won't be difficult for LE to arrest Misty because of her involvement in drugs. Sooner or later there will be no way she can make bail...if she can make bail even one time. If she's smart she will tell all, lawyer or no.
grammie/va
11-29-2009, 10:24 AM
Just one more thing. As my nic implies I just want justice for Haleigh. I, as I'm sure everyone else here does, want Haleigh to be found and given a proper burial and whoever committed this most heinous crime given the maximum sentence allowed by law. I don't care how they go about finding what happened. I don't care who they take down in the process. Anyone involved in anyway deserves the worst possible punishment. It won't be difficult for LE to arrest Misty because of her involvement in drugs. Sooner or later there will be no way she can make bail...if she can make bail even one time. If she's smart she will tell all, lawyer or no.
I agree!
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Marrigan
11-29-2009, 11:03 AM
Is there really any doubt left in anyone's mind that but for Ron's ill-timed (and I would say, irresponsible) marriage to Misty, LE would have gotten much, much farther in their investigation and interviews with her?!?
If we are to believe everything about his whereabouts and his explanations of that dreadful night, how in the world could he have possibly excluded Misty as having something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? How does a father muster up such complete and absolute belief in their 17 yr. old shack-up honey? It defies common sense.
Ron gave Misty "a safe place to fall", and also a "safe place to hide", right in plain view. IMO, whether it was intentional or not, Ron hindered this investigation with that stupid, stupid move. I don't claim to know what he was thinking and he certainly has been less than candid about it, but as my grandmother used to say "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". :cursing:
panman
11-29-2009, 12:15 PM
Is there really any doubt left in anyone's mind that but for Ron's ill-timed (and I would say, irresponsible) marriage to Misty, LE would have gotten much, much farther in their investigation and interviews with her?!?
If we are to believe everything about his whereabouts and his explanations of that dreadful night, how in the world could he have possibly excluded Misty as having something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? How does a father muster up such complete and absolute belief in their 17 yr. old shack-up honey? It defies common sense.
Ron gave Misty "a safe place to fall", and also a "safe place to hide", right in plain view. IMO, whether it was intentional or not, Ron hindered this investigation with that stupid, stupid move. I don't claim to know what he was thinking and he certainly has been less than candid about it, but as my grandmother used to say "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". :cursing:
Defies common sense according to who? If LE wanted to go after Misty they would, married or not. The only one to stop that would be a lawyer. Not Ron. Not a marriage.
jmo
just4justice
11-29-2009, 12:50 PM
Defies common sense according to who? If LE wanted to go after Misty they would, married or not. The only one to stop that would be a lawyer. Not Ron. Not a marriage.
jmo
Who ever said PCLE used common sense? They have repeatedly stated Misty holds the key and evidence from the MH doesn't jive with her statement(s). Something isn't adding up. They have arrested Ma and Pa Croslin, Bro Croslin, but not Misty. I have a lot of trouble with their missed opportunities of late. Buying drugs, road rage. Oh, oh I forgot. I guess that's all legal down there. As for Ron, I don't think he is the sharpest knife in the drawer. He may be somewhat street wise, but he, obviously, is no match for Misty's wit. Misty has proven to be one smooth operator. If Ron''s the big bully that some would have us believe I would have thought he could have coerced (beat)the truth out of her. The same goes for GGMA Sykes. I think 10 minutes alone with her would scare the truth out of anyone. However, the other side to that is TN, GGMS, and Ron all publicly stated their support for Misty which I have never understood. At the same time, TN is calling Tim Miller saying Misty is about to break. WTH? Don't they detain people anymore for suspicion? I firmly believe some time behind bars for Misty will reveal a great deal.
I guess we'll see what the next weeks bring about. I have faith in the FA predictions.
panman
11-29-2009, 01:25 PM
Who ever said PCLE used common sense? They have repeatedly stated Misty holds the key and evidence from the MH doesn't jive with her statement(s). Something isn't adding up. They have arrested Ma and Pa Croslin, Bro Croslin, but not Misty. I have a lot of trouble with their missed opportunities of late. Buying drugs, road rage. Oh, oh I forgot. I guess that's all legal down there. As for Ron, I don't think he is the sharpest knife in the drawer. He may be somewhat street wise, but he, obviously, is no match for Misty's wit. Misty has proven to be one smooth operator. If Ron''s the big bully that some would have us believe I would have thought he could have coerced (beat)the truth out of her. The same goes for GGMA Sykes. I think 10 minutes alone with her would scare the truth out of anyone. However, the other side to that is TN, GGMS, and Ron all publicly stated their support for Misty which I have never understood. At the same time, TN is calling Tim Miller saying Misty is about to break. WTH? Don't they detain people anymore for suspicion? I firmly believe some time behind bars for Misty will reveal a great deal.
I guess we'll see what the next weeks bring about. I have faith in the FA predictions.
We have no clue what LE has against Misty. If they have something minor or major. Only they know. I don't know about anyone else, but I can't even take a guess.
One thing I do know is that I wouldn't want anyone arrested because of a suspicion with no facts to back it up. Questions, yes. Arrested, no. And Misty was questioned over and over and over.
jmo
CelticDawn
11-29-2009, 01:33 PM
I feel so badly for Haleigh. I WANT to think that she is alive and well.....maybe even ILLEGALLY adopted and with someone who really wants her and can give her a good life.....but my head tells me that she is no longer among the living.
I don't say that I can blame Ron for not being able emotionally(not the same as not wanting to) to spend time with family....I am sure that there is a deep hole in their hearts and souls.....a yearning....a wondering. "where is she?' "does she know that we love her and that we miss her?'....even if they believe that she is dead....for many, those questions still linger.
as for Misty. More there than meets the eye. she may be from a backwater, but that girl/woman is very streetwise, and very manipulative.....just an observation. just my opinion.
Chica
11-29-2009, 02:58 PM
Defies common sense according to who? If LE wanted to go after Misty they would, married or not. The only one to stop that would be a lawyer. Not Ron. Not a marriage.
jmo
I agree and I don't understand the constant criticism of Ron even after 7 long months. The only reason Misty stayed in Florida was because she married Ron. Brilliant move on Ron's part. Misty would have flown the coop with her entire family. Lisa and Hank were ready to move to Massachusetts long ago before Lisa decided to rob the old man of his blank checks and Misty would have gone right along with them. The ONLY reason any of Coslins are still in Florida is because they can't leave now because they all have dates with the court. And if pigs fly and Lisa and Hank are able to leave the Sunshine state, you can bet Misty will go along for the ride and bye bye Misty.
HouseOfClark
11-29-2009, 03:43 PM
Is there really any doubt left in anyone's mind that but for Ron's ill-timed (and I would say, irresponsible) marriage to Misty, LE would have gotten much, much farther in their investigation and interviews with her?!?
If we are to believe everything about his whereabouts and his explanations of that dreadful night, how in the world could he have possibly excluded Misty as having something to do with Haleigh's disappearance? How does a father muster up such complete and absolute belief in their 17 yr. old shack-up honey? It defies common sense.
Ron gave Misty "a safe place to fall", and also a "safe place to hide", right in plain view. IMO, whether it was intentional or not, Ron hindered this investigation with that stupid, stupid move. I don't claim to know what he was thinking and he certainly has been less than candid about it, but as my grandmother used to say "the road to hell is paved with good intentions". :cursing:
I agree. After the marriage, all communication between Ron/Misty and LE ceased and lawyers were on board. Ron openly said he cut off communication with LE because of their "tunnel vision" where Misty was concerned.
JMO
Chica
11-29-2009, 05:39 PM
I agree. After the marriage, all communication between Ron/Misty and LE ceased and lawyers were on board. Ron openly said he cut off communication with LE because of their "tunnel vision" where Misty was concerned.
JMO
LE could have called Misty in to question her any time they wanted. They chose not to.
W_D_1
11-29-2009, 05:55 PM
LE could have called Misty in to question her any time they wanted. They chose not to.
Before the marriage Misty had been questioned 4-6 times per LE. Months after the marriage Misty had been questioned 10 times...again per LE. Communication wasn't completely ended after the marriage like HOC claims. Links were posted showing that long ago.
And like you said.....police can question her at any time if they choose to. Marriage wouldn't stop that. The only thing that could stop it would be an attorney.
Diamond1
11-29-2009, 06:19 PM
I agree and I don't understand the constant criticism of Ron even after 7 long months. The only reason Misty stayed in Florida was because she married Ron. Brilliant move on Ron's part. Misty would have flown the coop with her entire family. Lisa and Hank were ready to move to Massachusetts long ago before Lisa decided to rob the old man of his blank checks and Misty would have gone right along with them. The ONLY reason any of Coslins are still in Florida is because they can't leave now because they all have dates with the court. And if pigs fly and Lisa and Hank are able to leave the Sunshine state, you can bet Misty will go along for the ride and bye bye Misty.
It was certainly a "move" on Ron's part. But certainly not "brilliant". Deceptive perhaps is a better word for his actions. Whatever his reasons are for doing it apparently it accomplished what he wanted. LE is no closer to the truth than they were prior to the marriage. Now Ron and Misty are divorced and still nothing.
I do not believe Ron's intention for marriage was to keep Misty in FL.
Marrigan
11-29-2009, 06:35 PM
I agree. After the marriage, all communication between Ron/Misty and LE ceased and lawyers were on board. Ron openly said he cut off communication with LE because of their "tunnel vision" where Misty was concerned.
JMO
At first I thought that perhaps Ron Cummings was being unbelievably selfless by marrying Misty. I thought maybe he really did suspect Misty's involvement and hoped to catch her in a lie or somehow come across info that would lead him to Haleigh.
But when Misty made it clear to LE that if she didn't like their questions, she would walk out of the interviews, I changed my mind.
tia marie
11-29-2009, 06:45 PM
At first I thought that perhaps Ron Cummings was being unbelievably selfless by marrying Misty. I thought maybe he really did suspect Misty's involvement and hoped to catch her in a lie or somehow come across info that would lead him to Haleigh.
But when Misty made it clear to LE that if she didn't like their questions, she would walk out of the interviews, I changed my mind.
Ron marrying Misty is like Sleeping With The Enemy ! Absurd.
moo
5boxersmom
11-29-2009, 07:00 PM
If you believe Cobra he said last week on the radio show that John Merchant told Ron to marry Misty. :shrug:
jmo
Misty's already figured out that they can't make her talk. All she has to do is simply refuse to answer questions or to bring up her lawyer. LE is not allowed to torture people to make them talk. If she chooses not to answer questions, then her age isn't going to make a difference.
Regarding the septic tanks, some mobile home parks have their own sewage treatment plants. I don't think the one Ronald and Misty lived in was that large but being that close to the river, they may have been required to have one. Just a thought.
I think under the right circumstances such as being arrested for another crime and being held for a few days with a high bond, Misty could break.It would also depend on the skill of the questioner,but it could happen.
She could ask for her attorney,but in the past she has ignored his requests not to speak with LE or the media.Misty may just think she is smart enough to muddle through and let something slip....one never knows what might happen.At this point other than Haleigh being found,it's all we have to hope for.
I used to think Misty was not telling the truth because she wanted to stay in her relationship with RC...if for nothing other than having a place to stay,but what is her excuse now for not talking?
The only two reasons that I can think of are that she has been honest with LE and she is their only focus due to screw ups on their part or public pressure to name someone,or she is protecting herself because what happened is far more serious than leaving the children alone.
IMO
SilentSanity
11-29-2009, 07:05 PM
I agree and I don't understand the constant criticism of Ron even after 7 long months. The only reason Misty stayed in Florida was because she married Ron. Brilliant move on Ron's part. Misty would have flown the coop with her entire family. Lisa and Hank were ready to move to Massachusetts long ago before Lisa decided to rob the old man of his blank checks and Misty would have gone right along with them. The ONLY reason any of Coslins are still in Florida is because they can't leave now because they all have dates with the court. And if pigs fly and Lisa and Hank are able to leave the Sunshine state, you can bet Misty will go along for the ride and bye bye Misty.
ITA with ya Chica! If Ron had not married Misty, I believe she would have moved with Timmy and Chelsea. Definitely a brilliant move on his part :thumbsup:
Tracian
11-29-2009, 07:15 PM
Ron marrying Misty is like Sleeping With The Enemy ! Absurd.
moo
I don't think so, not with the way the Croslin's are nomadic.
FoxySly
11-29-2009, 08:06 PM
Defies common sense according to who? If LE wanted to go after Misty they would, married or not. The only one to stop that would be a lawyer. Not Ron. Not a marriage.
jmo
Yup, what defies COMMONSENSE IMO is all the spewing of LIES KNOWING THE ARE LIES against the Dad that has ALWAYS been there!
In fact IMO that's down right EVIL! Who does such things? And what would/will HaLeigh's heart feel if she ever knows about those KNOWINGLY spewing right out LIES about the Daddy who made sure she had a roof over her head, clothes on her back, food in her belly.
After LEARNING so many more TRUTHS I have a lot more respect for Ron & his Family for keeping quite when they could have been yelling ugly TRUTHS but didn't.
DRUGS while pregnant
DRUGS in new born infant
DRUG pipes & resin found on 'farm' when the griffis even KNEW they were going to be searched ahead of time!
List of ugly FACTS could go on & on but the saddest of all IMO is that the bio mom didn't even care to see her Children hardly at all until the court stepped in!!!
I am thankful to have enough commonsense to stick to FACTS & DOCUMENTS instead of falling for any LIE SPEWED out there.
Sly
~
TaraCrazyHair
11-29-2009, 09:07 PM
If you believe Cobra he said last week on the radio show that John Merchant told Ron to marry Misty. :shrug:
jmo
Who is John Merchant?
TaraCrazyHair
11-29-2009, 09:37 PM
It was certainly a "move" on Ron's part. But certainly not "brilliant". Deceptive perhaps is a better word for his actions. Whatever his reasons are for doing it apparently it accomplished what he wanted. LE is no closer to the truth than they were prior to the marriage. Now Ron and Misty are divorced and still nothing.
I do not believe Ron's intention for marriage was to keep Misty in FL.
I think it avoided his arrest ... Moo
Santa'sMom
11-29-2009, 09:56 PM
Foxy Sly, I'm curious, why would you choose to believe anything Kim Picasio has to say? If you really read her documents and take the time to think about everything she says in them, you notice that she trips herself up in her own stories. Take the story she tells of Chloe being born with illegal narcotics in her system. She doesn't mention DCF involvement in that, does she? Interesting since she goes into all kinds of other details. When a baby is born with illegal narcotics in his/her system, that baby does NOT go home with mommy. Period. The mother will have to go to court to regain custody of her baby, AFTER the DCF investigation is completed. The crack pipes... does the fact that the family knew about the upcoming search not make you question Kim's claim that the truck and pipes belonged to Chad? And why did she feel the need to make that particular note public? It wasn't necessary for her in pleading her case to the bar and I will never believe that Kim did not plan to make certain that TJ Hart had all of the paperwork, notes, etc. so he could plaster it online. I don't see Crystal as an innocent angel nor do I see Ronald as pure scum, but Kim, as far as I'm concerned, cetainly warrants a more thorough investigation by the Florida bar for her actions in this case. JMO, of course.
N-2-L
11-29-2009, 10:02 PM
Yup, what defies COMMONSENSE IMO is all the spewing of LIES KNOWING THE ARE LIES against the Dad that has ALWAYS been there!
In fact IMO that's down right EVIL! Who does such things? And what would/will HaLeigh's heart feel if she ever knows about those KNOWINGLY spewing right out LIES about the Daddy who made sure she had a roof over her head, clothes on her back, food in her belly.
After LEARNING so many more TRUTHS I have a lot more respect for Ron & his Family for keeping quite when they could have been yelling ugly TRUTHS but didn't.
DRUGS while pregnant
DRUGS in new born infant
DRUG pipes & resin found on 'farm' when the griffis even KNEW they were going to be searched ahead of time!
List of ugly FACTS could go on & on but the saddest of all IMO is that the bio mom didn't even care to see her Children hardly at all until the court stepped in!!!
I am thankful to have enough commonsense to stick to FACTS & DOCUMENTS instead of falling for any LIE SPEWED out there.
Sly
~
I mean no disrespect, but if you only want to stick to the FACTS then do you not have to post FACTS concerning BOTH sides of Haleigh's family?
TaraCrazyHair
11-29-2009, 10:05 PM
Foxy Sly, I'm curious, why would you choose to believe anything Kim Picasio has to say? If you really read her documents and take the time to think about everything she says in them, you notice that she trips herself up in her own stories. Take the story she tells of Chloe being born with illegal narcotics in her system. She doesn't mention DCF involvement in that, does she? Interesting since she goes into all kinds of other details. When a baby is born with illegal narcotics in his/her system, that baby does NOT go home with mommy. Period. The mother will have to go to court to regain custody of her baby, AFTER the DCF investigation is completed. The crack pipes... does the fact that the family knew about the upcoming search not make you question Kim's claim that the truck and pipes belonged to Chad? And why did she feel the need to make that particular note public? It wasn't necessary for her in pleading her case to the bar and I will never believe that Kim did not plan to make certain that TJ Hart had all of the paperwork, notes, etc. so he could plaster it online. I don't see Crystal as an innocent angel nor do I see Ronald as pure scum, but Kim, as far as I'm concerned, cetainly warrants a more thorough investigation by the Florida bar for her actions in this case. JMO, of course.
I questioned that because unless extensive tests were done on the baby .... the narcotics in her system could have been from drugs during labor
N-2-L
11-29-2009, 10:08 PM
Who is John Merchant?
Tara, I know John Merchant is in LE but to be honest I am not completely sure what position he holds in Putnam country.
I know my post is not very helpful to you so hopefully another poster will post more information about John Merchant for you. I have often wondered if John Merchant is not a friend of the Cummings family also.
TaraCrazyHair
11-29-2009, 10:10 PM
Tara, I know John Merchant is in LE but to be honest I am not completely sure what position he holds in Putnam country.
I know my post is not very helpful to you so hopefully another poster will post more information about John Merchant for you. I have often wondered if John Merchant is not a friend of the Cummings family also.
Would make sense if he was
Always felt Ron was put on the spot to marry Misty to avoid arrest
W_D_1
11-29-2009, 10:21 PM
Tara, I know John Merchant is in LE but to be honest I am not completely sure what position he holds in Putnam country.
I know my post is not very helpful to you so hopefully another poster will post more information about John Merchant for you. I have often wondered if John Merchant is not a friend of the Cummings family also.
John Merchant is an investigator with the major crimes unit of the PCSO.
TaraCrazyHair
11-29-2009, 10:53 PM
John Merchant is an investigator with the major crimes unit of the PCSO.
And he suggested the marriage?
I said way back when LE placed the idea in his head but not to entrap Misty
More a warning that an arrest would happen
panman
11-29-2009, 11:12 PM
I mean no disrespect, but if you only want to stick to the FACTS then do you not have to post FACTS concerning BOTH sides of Haleigh's family?
Lol, how many facts were distorted since Haleigh went missing regarding the paternal side of the family? IIRC, the more that some tried to stick to the facts, the more trashing of the paternal side. Now that some are talking about the maternal side, some are upset. So, IMO, it all evens itself out while Haleigh is still missing.
all my own opinions
N-2-L
11-29-2009, 11:13 PM
As I was listening to the SB show today on BNN I was surprised to hear the caller ask what the family was doing in the search for Haleigh because that has been on my mind for awhile now. The sad part is the replies seemed to confirm my suspicions that the family on both sides were really not doing anything in the search for Haleigh.
I have to admit my sympathy's for both sides of the family are slowly slipping away. I realize that sounds cruel but at the same time how could anyone ever stop looking for their child/grandchild, etc.
Haleigh has had national attention and most family's with a missing child/grandchild would beg for that kind of attention. Instead of Haleigh's family taking advantage of the national media in my opinion they have done everything possible to get out of the spotlight.
I realize some posters will come back with LE has asked the family not to search or not to talk to media, etc. Well, before anyone does ask yourself this - If your child/grandchild was missing and LE had not made an arrest or found your child after ten months would you keep silent? I know without a doubt I could not and personally I do not know anyone who could.
This post is putting aside the facts and rumors about both sides of the family. If we went into the facts and the rumors about both sides of the family well then it even makes everyone in Haleigh's life look worse in my opinion.
Haleigh has already paid a horrible price for the actions or inactions of her family on the night of February 9th or early morning hours of February 10th.
In my opinion, Haleigh is still paying a horrible price to this day for the actions or inactions of her family to this day.
I do believe that Haleigh left this earth on February 9th or 10th, but lets just say their is a 1% chance that Haleigh is alive. When I think of the 1% chance that Haleigh may be alive I think of the Shawn Hornbeck case. If anyone is familiar with that case then you should remember that Shawn said that the only thing that kept him going is knowing that his parents were still looking for him. I also think of the TORTURE that child went through and what if Haleigh is going through that and no family member even cares enough to go out and search, talk to the media, set up a website like Shawn Hornbecks family, etc. etc. etc.
I apologize for such a long post but as I said this has been on my mind for a while now and after the show today I decided to post.
I realize that there may not be one person out there that agrees with me, but at the same time I do hope I do not get flamed for my thoughts and my opinions.
If Anne from TN is reading this THANK YOU for what you are doing. (If I have that name wrong, please someone correct me.) Also, to all the truckers out there that are passing Haleigh's flyer's around THANK YOU ALL.
As Jan Barrett (sp) said today and I am paraphrasing her statement to the caller and on the show. Someone has to do something to help find Haleigh. Haleigh deserves it!!!!
If anyone has any ideas on what we can do then maybe that is something that we could start discussing here. ( I hope that is allowed on this message board).
I have one idea and if anyone agrees or if they have a different or better idea I hope you will post it.
I may be the only one confused here, but I can not figure out if TM/TES is coming back to search for Haleigh or not. Does anyone know for sure?
Ok, back to my idea - I think if anyone can find Haleigh it would be TM/TES, so what if we all wrote letters asking TM/TES to come back one more time to search for Haleigh. Does anyone think this is a good idea and do you think it would work? I am not sure if it would work but I do not think it could hurt. I do plan on writing a letter to TM/TES about doing this but I was thinking the more letters he received could only help.
OMG, I have to apologize again for such a long post and I will be still now. I do hope to hear others thoughts though as far as how we can help in the search for HALEIGH CUMMINGS. I am sure not one member on this board wants to see this case go cold and I fear if something does not happen soon that is exactly where it is going.
P.S. What is the "wave" with all of those "symbols" I have seen posted from a few here? If it is something to help Haleigh I would like to know if it is something I could do to help if anyone cares to share.
tia marie
11-29-2009, 11:18 PM
ITA with ya Chica! If Ron had not married Misty, I believe she would have moved with Timmy and Chelsea. Definitely a brilliant move on his part :thumbsup:
Brillant??? I don't think so. What did Ron accomplish by marrying her? Did Ron not know there is extradtion procedures that could be enacted if need be? All Ron accomplished by marrying Misty was lots of bad press.
N-2-L
11-29-2009, 11:22 PM
I agree!
♥ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ KEEP THE WAVE GOING for #HaleighCummings ★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
Here is what I was talking about in my post. Can someone share what this is " KEEP THE WAVE GOING "? I would be really interested if it has anything to do with helping find Haleigh.
TaraCrazyHair
11-29-2009, 11:26 PM
Brillant??? I don't think so. What did Ron accomplish by marrying her? Did Ron not know there is extradtion procedures that could be enacted if need be? All Ron accomplished by marrying Misty was lots of bad press.
Kept him out of jail for his relationship
panman
11-29-2009, 11:28 PM
Brillant??? I don't think so. What did Ron accomplish by marrying her? Did Ron not know there is extradtion procedures that could be enacted if need be? All Ron accomplished by marrying Misty was lots of bad press.
If none of us know the real reason behind the marriage, then none of us know if Ron accomplished what he set out to do or not.
N-2-L
11-29-2009, 11:28 PM
Just one more thing. As my nic implies I just want justice for Haleigh. I, as I'm sure everyone else here does, want Haleigh to be found and given a proper burial and whoever committed this most heinous crime given the maximum sentence allowed by law. I don't care how they go about finding what happened. I don't care who they take down in the process. Anyone involved in anyway deserves the worst possible punishment. It won't be difficult for LE to arrest Misty because of her involvement in drugs. Sooner or later there will be no way she can make bail...if she can make bail even one time. If she's smart she will tell all, lawyer or no.
I agree with your post and I do hope that if LE gets the chance to arrest Misty that they can set bail so high that the Croslins can not come up with the bail money.
tia marie
11-29-2009, 11:33 PM
Foxy Sly, I'm curious, why would you choose to believe anything Kim Picasio has to say? If you really read her documents and take the time to think about everything she says in them, you notice that she trips herself up in her own stories. Take the story she tells of Chloe being born with illegal narcotics in her system. She doesn't mention DCF involvement in that, does she? Interesting since she goes into all kinds of other details. When a baby is born with illegal narcotics in his/her system, that baby does NOT go home with mommy. Period. The mother will have to go to court to regain custody of her baby, AFTER the DCF investigation is completed. The crack pipes... does the fact that the family knew about the upcoming search not make you question Kim's claim that the truck and pipes belonged to Chad? And why did she feel the need to make that particular note public? It wasn't necessary for her in pleading her case to the bar and I will never believe that Kim did not plan to make certain that TJ Hart had all of the paperwork, notes, etc. so he could plaster it online. I don't see Crystal as an innocent angel nor do I see Ronald as pure scum, but Kim, as far as I'm concerned, cetainly warrants a more thorough investigation by the Florida bar for her actions in this case. JMO, of course.
That poster likes to refer to documents that are over five years old. Yet when Ron's drugs arrests are mentioned, we are supposed to dismiss them as it was so long ago. Go figure.
panman
11-29-2009, 11:43 PM
That poster likes to refer to documents that are over five years old. Yet when Ron's drugs arrests are mentioned, we are supposed to dismiss them as it was so long ago. Go figure.
LOL again. I remember the other way. Some posters over and again bringing up Ron's old record. Like I said, it evens itself out while Haleigh is still missing.
N-2-L
11-29-2009, 11:46 PM
John Merchant is an investigator with the major crimes unit of the PCSO.
Thank you.
N-2-L
11-29-2009, 11:51 PM
I agree. After the marriage, all communication between Ron/Misty and LE ceased and lawyers were on board. Ron openly said he cut off communication with LE because of their "tunnel vision" where Misty was concerned.
JMO
I agree HOClark, and why protect Misty when it comes to finding his daughter? I guess that is something I will never understand.
panman
11-30-2009, 12:02 AM
I agree HOClark, and why protect Misty when it comes to finding his daughter? I guess that is something I will never understand.
Is there proof he was protecting Misty over Haleigh?
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 12:09 AM
Lol, how many facts were distorted since Haleigh went missing regarding the paternal side of the family? IIRC, the more that some tried to stick to the facts, the more trashing of the paternal side. Now that some are talking about the maternal side, some are upset. So, IMO, it all evens itself out while Haleigh is still missing.
all my own opinions
I am sorry it is late and I am tired but I am missing your point to my post. I didn't say anything about trashing either side of the family so maybe you can explain what you mean????
panman
11-30-2009, 12:12 AM
I am sorry it is late and I am tired but I am missing your point to my post. I didn't say anything about trashing either side of the family so maybe you can explain what you mean????
Yes it is getting late and I am getting tired to. I didn't say YOU were saying it.
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 12:13 AM
Foxy Sly, I'm curious, why would you choose to believe anything Kim Picasio has to say? If you really read her documents and take the time to think about everything she says in them, you notice that she trips herself up in her own stories. Take the story she tells of Chloe being born with illegal narcotics in her system. She doesn't mention DCF involvement in that, does she? Interesting since she goes into all kinds of other details. When a baby is born with illegal narcotics in his/her system, that baby does NOT go home with mommy. Period. The mother will have to go to court to regain custody of her baby, AFTER the DCF investigation is completed. The crack pipes... does the fact that the family knew about the upcoming search not make you question Kim's claim that the truck and pipes belonged to Chad? And why did she feel the need to make that particular note public? It wasn't necessary for her in pleading her case to the bar and I will never believe that Kim did not plan to make certain that TJ Hart had all of the paperwork, notes, etc. so he could plaster it online. I don't see Crystal as an innocent angel nor do I see Ronald as pure scum, but Kim, as far as I'm concerned, cetainly warrants a more thorough investigation by the Florida bar for her actions in this case. JMO, of course.
my bold above
I agree with your complete post but the part I bolded really stood out.
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 12:18 AM
Yes it is getting late and I am getting tired to. I didn't say YOU were saying it.
I am sorry for the misunderstanding so thank you for explaining it to me.
I think with that I am going to call it a night, so night to you and to anyone else that is still on line.
teresa
11-30-2009, 12:55 AM
If you believe Cobra he said last week on the radio show that John Merchant told Ron to marry Misty. :shrug:
jmo
In my really strong opinion, that is one of the few truths Cobra has stated.
BitterSweet
11-30-2009, 01:19 AM
I have always stumped as to why Ron married Misty? Either or Misty married Ron? Timing is IMO ... very odd.
None the less, I would rather the question of what happened to Haleigh be answered by those responsible.
BitterSweet
HouseOfClark
11-30-2009, 05:04 AM
In my really strong opinion, that is one of the few truths Cobra has stated.
If that's true, then John Merchant needs to find a new line of work. His matchmaking and investigative skills are leaving a lot to be desired.
JMO
(Wonder if he ever in the past advised a victim's family member to marry a potential suspect in a disappearance?)
HouseOfClark
11-30-2009, 05:07 AM
Before the marriage Misty had been questioned 4-6 times per LE. Months after the marriage Misty had been questioned 10 times...again per LE. Communication wasn't completely ended after the marriage like HOC claims. Links were posted showing that long ago.
And like you said.....police can question her at any time if they choose to. Marriage wouldn't stop that. The only thing that could stop it would be an attorney.
Not my claim at all, those were Ron's own words.
?noanswer
11-30-2009, 07:56 AM
Here is what I was talking about in my post. Can someone share what this is " KEEP THE WAVE GOING "? I would be really interested if it has anything to do with helping find Haleigh.
I don't know the official reason for "KEEP THE WAVE GOING", but my opinion is that is is just another way to keep Haleigh's name in the public. I think it is being used in other communication forms, also. JMO
grammie/va
11-30-2009, 08:02 AM
the HaLeigh wave is used on twitter to keep her name in public view and it is a easy retweet post.
Doesn't help in finding her, but it is our way of showing we care and keeping name in public view.
♥ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ KEEP THE WAVE GOING for #HaleighCummings ★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
Texas48
11-30-2009, 08:18 AM
HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings has 61 candles burning...:wub:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC
FoxySly
11-30-2009, 10:04 AM
HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings has 61 candles burning...:wub:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC
There are a few more lite candles now, thanks for the link today.
LE asked for anyone to come forward about misty's where abouts on the supposedly 3 day binge but I still have never heard about anyone coming forward, why?
Dang it, there has to be some witnesses!
If it's true it could very well IMO have something to do with HaLeigh Missing.
Seems to me LE could offer $500. towards their next bail (since all these fools stay at the Gray Bar Motel so often) if they would come forward with some facts relating to that.
Sly
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Tracian
11-30-2009, 10:32 AM
Foxy Sly, I'm curious, why would you choose to believe anything Kim Picasio has to say? If you really read her documents and take the time to think about everything she says in them, you notice that she trips herself up in her own stories. Take the story she tells of Chloe being born with illegal narcotics in her system. She doesn't mention DCF involvement in that, does she? Interesting since she goes into all kinds of other details. When a baby is born with illegal narcotics in his/her system, that baby does NOT go home with mommy. Period. The mother will have to go to court to regain custody of her baby, AFTER the DCF investigation is completed. The crack pipes... does the fact that the family knew about the upcoming search not make you question Kim's claim that the truck and pipes belonged to Chad? And why did she feel the need to make that particular note public? It wasn't necessary for her in pleading her case to the bar and I will never believe that Kim did not plan to make certain that TJ Hart had all of the paperwork, notes, etc. so he could plaster it online. I don't see Crystal as an innocent angel nor do I see Ronald as pure scum, but Kim, as far as I'm concerned, cetainly warrants a more thorough investigation by the Florida bar for her actions in this case. JMO, of course.
If Kim lied on those offical documents, she would be disbarred; not only that if she lied about Crystal, she could be sued.
The silence is deafening from Crystal and Marie in regards to the allegations that KP made.
Tracian
11-30-2009, 10:33 AM
There are a few more lite candles now, thanks for the link today.
LE asked for anyone to come forward about misty's where abouts on the supposedly 3 day binge but I still have never heard about anyone coming forward, why?
Dang it, there has to be some witnesses!
If it's true it could very well IMO have something to do with HaLeigh Missing.
Seems to me LE could offer $500. towards their next bail (since all these fools stay at the Gray Bar Motel so often) if they would come forward with some facts relating to that.
Sly
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IIRC WBG confirmed this to AH, but I could have the wrong weekend.
Tracian
11-30-2009, 10:39 AM
Here is what I was talking about in my post. Can someone share what this is " KEEP THE WAVE GOING "? I would be really interested if it has anything to do with helping find Haleigh.
With all due respect, posting on boards does nothing to find HaLeigh, but it, like the 'wave' keeps her name out there, and that is the best most of us can do.
FoxySly
11-30-2009, 11:23 AM
If Kim lied on those offical documents, she would be disbarred; not only that if she lied about Crystal, she could be sued.
The silence is deafening from Crystal and Marie in regards to the allegations that KP made.
Yup, & sadly IMO that's just the tip of the iceberg.
Big YUP to your 2nd sentence.
Sly
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Texas48
11-30-2009, 12:49 PM
With all due respect, posting on boards does nothing to find HaLeigh, but it, like the 'wave' keeps her name out there, and that is the best most of us can do.BBM
Ahhh so true Tracian. IF only we could find her but thats just not a possibility. ...all we can do is carry on the discussions which we have been doing for 9...soon to be..10 months.
Who took this baby girl?
Texas48
11-30-2009, 12:51 PM
Lighting candles, posting here or keeping the wave going do not help find HaLeigh.
I do it because it makes me feel better as I think about a little abducted child.
What does it hurt? If you don't like it... don't do it. :shrug:
:smile: The rest of us will make our own choice.
MOO
Very true sis.
panman
11-30-2009, 01:15 PM
If Anne from TN is reading this THANK YOU for what you are doing. (If I have that name wrong, please someone correct me.) Also, to all the truckers out there that are passing Haleigh's flyer's around THANK YOU ALL.
Can you fill us in on what this Anne from TN did for Haleigh? TIA
AngelWings
11-30-2009, 01:28 PM
the HaLeigh wave is used on twitter to keep her name in public view and it is a easy retweet post.
Doesn't help in finding her, but it is our way of showing we care and keeping name in public view.
♥ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ KEEP THE WAVE GOING for #HaleighCummings ★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
♥ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ KEEP THE WAVE GOING for #HaleighCummings ★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
thx grammie :seeya:
Tracian
11-30-2009, 02:02 PM
Can you fill us in on what this Anne from TN did for Haleigh? TIA
Yesterday on Blogger radio, she was a caller and while on vacation brought flyers to give to truckers, and hang on poles.
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 02:09 PM
I don't know the official reason for "KEEP THE WAVE GOING", but my opinion is that is is just another way to keep Haleigh's name in the public. I think it is being used in other communication forms, also. JMO
Thank you ?noanswer and I think anything that keeps Haleigh's name in the public is an excellent idea.
aeiou
11-30-2009, 02:13 PM
Yesterday on Blogger radio, she was a caller and while on vacation brought flyers to give to truckers, and hang on poles.
People have been doing that for months. The slightest chance that one poster may help bring this little girl home to her family is all we need. They have been placed in truck stops, gas stations, restaurants, hotels, rest areas, just about any place that would take them out of our hands. They have been given out all across the country.
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 02:26 PM
the HaLeigh wave is used on twitter to keep her name in public view and it is a easy retweet post.
Doesn't help in finding her, but it is our way of showing we care and keeping name in public view.
♥ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ KEEP THE WAVE GOING for #HaleighCummings ★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
my bold above
The part I bolded in your post is great in my opinion.
I do not use twitter, but I would think twitter would be an excellent way of keeping Haleigh's name out there.
Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me.
grammie/va
11-30-2009, 02:37 PM
my bold above
The part I bolded in your post is great in my opinion.
I do not use twitter, but I would think twitter would be an excellent way of keeping Haleigh's name out there.
Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me.
You are most welcome. The wave is just a post that makes many feel like they are keeping HaLeigh's name out there through twitter, and I usually sign my post here at insession with it also.
Thanks to Rucky Ron for putting it in his signature. And all others for posting it.
♥ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ KEEP"Google Wave" GOING for #HaleighCummings ★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 02:42 PM
FoxySly, you bring up a very good point.
I can't imagine anyone that is addicted to drugs, not taking advantage
of the reward money. There is just something so wrong with this case.
Maybe it is a lack of information that we aren't getting from LE that just
makes it look all wrong to so many of us.
I do worry about Lindsy Croslin and her trying to get her Licensed Practical Nurse license. I am wondering what is going to happen if
state board of Nursing finds out that the very people that she lives
with have been charged with various drug charges.
All of this is just my own opinion.
I agree with your post and the reward money has me puzzled also.
I know I am dreaming, but I would love to see the reward money go up to $100,000.00 because then the person/persons would have enough money to relocate and most people know they will never see that much money at one time in their lives.
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 02:45 PM
IIRC WBG confirmed this to AH, but I could have the wrong weekend.
After reading your post I do think you are right. In fact, doesn't AH have a video of his interview with WBG posted on his website somewhere?
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 02:52 PM
With all due respect, posting on boards does nothing to find HaLeigh, but it, like the 'wave' keeps her name out there, and that is the best most of us can do.
Oh Tracian, I think you misunderstood me or I hope so anyway. I did not mean anything bad about the "wave" at all. I was just curious because I would see it here from time to time and I had no idea what it meant.
Now, that people have explained it I think it is great. In fact, if I knew anyone that had twitter and if I was smart enough to figure twitter out I would love to help with the "wave". Of course, I guess I need a typing lesson ( lol ) because I have no idea how anyone types those symbols.
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 03:19 PM
Lighting candles, posting here or keeping the wave going do not help find HaLeigh.
I do it because it makes me feel better as I think about a little abducted child.
What does it hurt? If you don't like it... don't do it. :shrug:
:smile: The rest of us will make our own choice.
MOO
OMG, first it was Trician and now you so I guess I need to keep reading before I post anything else about the "Haleigh Wave". I enjoy reading both your post and Trician's along with almost everyone on this board, even when I do not post.
Why would you and a few others think that by me asking a question out of curiosity that meant I did not like something? I do not care how small or how large anything is I believe we are all here for Haleigh and anything we do can only help Haleigh, well if good intentions are behind it.
I felt Trician's post was at least polite but I felt your post came across as very rude to me and I have no idea why. One thing I do not think helps Haleigh is arguing on a message board. I do have good intentions and I can tell by most of your post that you also have those same good intentions. So, I hope from now on we can work together for Haleigh or at least agree to disagree.
P.S. I do think the lighting candles helps in finding Haleigh. I believe God hears all of our prayers and I try to light the candles when I think about it. I am very bad about forgetting to keep one lit and I need to work harder on that.
panman
11-30-2009, 03:25 PM
Yesterday on Blogger radio, she was a caller and while on vacation brought flyers to give to truckers, and hang on poles.
Thanks Tracians, appreciated.
CFMom
11-30-2009, 03:32 PM
♥ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ KEEP"Google Wave" GOING for #HaleighCummings ★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
CFMom
11-30-2009, 03:37 PM
Prayers for the Cummings family...has to be hard thru the holidays without Haleigh.
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 03:42 PM
Can you fill us in on what this Anne from TN did for Haleigh? TIA
Hi Panman, now please remember I am going by memory here from the BNN show yesterday. Also, if anyone listened to the show yesterday and I have it wrong or left out any information, please someone correct me.
Someone called in and said that a lady named Anna from TN was traveling and she was stopping off at truck stops and asking Truckers to hand out flyer's for Haleigh along their trip. I took it that some truckers had never even heard of Haleigh Cummings and they said they would be happy to drop off flyer's along their route. Of course, Anna from TN had the flyer's in hand to give the truckers to drop off.
It really was not talked about that much so I wish I had more information to tell you. The guest on the show did discuss how sometimes we forget and we think everyone knows about Haleigh, but a lot of people in the USA still has never heard Haleigh's name.
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 03:51 PM
People have been doing that for months. The slightest chance that one poster may help bring this little girl home to her family is all we need. They have been placed in truck stops, gas stations, restaurants, hotels, rest areas, just about any place that would take them out of our hands. They have been given out all across the country.
my bold above and I agree
Thank you for your post, I had no idea this was going on across the country for months.
CFMom
11-30-2009, 03:53 PM
Its nice to know there are still people who actually care for these missing kids and not just how they themselves can benefit from them.
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 03:56 PM
You are most welcome. The wave is just a post that makes many feel like they are keeping HaLeigh's name out there through twitter, and I usually sign my post here at insession with it also.
Thanks to Rucky Ron for putting it in his signature. And all others for posting it.
♥ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ KEEP"Google Wave" GOING for #HaleighCummings ★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
Thanks again and I think you were one of the first ones I seen post it here and I was thinking what is that and how did she make those symbols..lol. So, at least all of you know it defiantly gets peoples attention and that is good in my opinion.
aeiou
11-30-2009, 04:05 PM
OMG, first it was Trician and now you so I guess I need to keep reading before I post anything else about the "Haleigh Wave". I enjoy reading both your post and Trician's along with almost everyone on this board, even when I do not post.
Why would you and a few others think that by me asking a question out of curiosity that meant I did not like something? I do not care how small or how large anything is I believe we are all here for Haleigh and anything we do can only help Haleigh, well if good intentions are behind it.
I felt Trician's post was at least polite but I felt your post came across as very rude to me and I have no idea why. One thing I do not think helps Haleigh is arguing on a message board. I do have good intentions and I can tell by most of your post that you also have those same good intentions. So, I hope from now on we can work together for Haleigh or at least agree to disagree.
P.S. I do think the lighting candles helps in finding Haleigh. I believe God hears all of our prayers and I try to light the candles when I think about it. I am very bad about forgetting to keep one lit and I need to work harder on that.
When you ask over and over again, "How does this help find HaLeigh?", please expect to get the same answer each time. Nothing we do here is helping to find her.
Chica
11-30-2009, 04:22 PM
Hi Panman, now please remember I am going by memory here from the BNN show yesterday. Also, if anyone listened to the show yesterday and I have it wrong or left out any information, please someone correct me.
Someone called in and said that a lady named Anna from TN was traveling and she was stopping off at truck stops and asking Truckers to hand out flyer's for Haleigh along their trip. I took it that some truckers had never even heard of Haleigh Cummings and they said they would be happy to drop off flyer's along their route. Of course, Anna from TN had the flyer's in hand to give the truckers to drop off.
It really was not talked about that much so I wish I had more information to tell you. The guest on the show did discuss how sometimes we forget and we think everyone knows about Haleigh, but a lot of people in the USA still has never heard Haleigh's name.
I would bet that if I asked every person at the food store or any store up here in MA. I would be hard pressed to find 1 person who knows who Haleigh Cummings is. Even if I mentioned that a little girl was mistakenly thought to be Haleigh at Walmart in Abington, MA this summer, I doubt anyone would know what I was talking about. It was in the paper one day, never to be mentioned again. And I don't know anyone who watches Nancy Grace or HLN for that matter except for me when I am forced to watch. I know because I post here, that's it.
Shotzie
11-30-2009, 04:33 PM
I would bet that if I asked every person at the food store or any store up here in MA. I would be hard pressed to find 1 person who knows who Haleigh Cummings is. Even if I mentioned that a little girl was mistakenly thought to be Haleigh at Walmart in Abington, MA this summer, I doubt anyone would know what I was talking about. It was in the paper one day, never to be mentioned again. And I don't know anyone who watches Nancy Grace or HLN for that matter except for me when I am forced to watch. I know because I post here, that's it.
Chica, I agree totally, I live in CA and no one I know has even heard about Haleigh, unless it's me blabbing about all these missing children.None of my friends watch NG or JV..So it's mostly us trial watchers an missing persons advocates that are up on these..I don't want this to be a COLD CASE but it is looking that way..:cursing:.
♥ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ Where are you #HaleighCummings ??★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
Tracian
11-30-2009, 04:35 PM
Chica, I agree totally, I live in CA and no one I know has even heard about Haleigh, unless it's me blabbing about all these missing children.None of my friends watch NG or JV..So it's mostly us trial watchers an missing persons advocates that are up on these..I don't want this to be a COLD CASE but it is looking that way..:cursing:.
♥ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ Where are you #HaleighCummings ??★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
LTNS CA neighbor :smile:
Like you, unless they watch HLN they know nothing about this case, my sister does because I force her to listen to me rattle on.
CFMom
11-30-2009, 04:43 PM
When you ask over and over again, "How does this help find HaLeigh?", please expect to get the same answer each time. Nothing we do here is helping to find her.
Great post. I see that said so many times "What is that doing to help find Haleigh"..when all this is is a message board to discuss the case.
Texas48
11-30-2009, 04:44 PM
Its nice to know there are still people who actually care for these missing kids and not just how they themselves can benefit from them.
Your right of course Mom....Many many ppl care about ALL our missing children...You..me and everyone on this board and throughout our country. Only wish there was more we could do for all of these kids. I have Missing Kids banner on my MS as do all my friends..we have flyers out daily at our market..not just Haleighs but many..to include little Adji...
I think back to the many post and discussions here at IS...some even heated discussions....LOL...but the one thing I know for a certainty is everyone I know on this board and others care for all these children. HaLeigh's case has kept us coming back day after day and that says alot about posters..about ppl..IMO.
CFMom
11-30-2009, 04:44 PM
LTNS CA neighbor :smile:
Like you, unless they watch HLN they know nothing about this case, my sister does because I force her to listen to me rattle on.
I live in Florida not far from where she was taken and I have people ask me..'what kid is that'?....many people dont follow cases at all.
Texas48
11-30-2009, 04:52 PM
I would bet that if I asked every person at the food store or any store up here in MA. I would be hard pressed to find 1 person who knows who Haleigh Cummings is. Even if I mentioned that a little girl was mistakenly thought to be Haleigh at Walmart in Abington, MA this summer, I doubt anyone would know what I was talking about. It was in the paper one day, never to be mentioned again. And I don't know anyone who watches Nancy Grace or HLN for that matter except for me when I am forced to watch. I know because I post here, that's it.
You make a good point Chica. and when I think about it before I joined IS I worked full time and raising kids..I can bet I would not have known the name HaLeigh and that her favorite color is purple. I never knew there was a NG and barely ever had time to even watch the weather channel. Has to be millions just like that and yet there are times I'm thinking *everyone has to know HaLeigh*....Ahh enough thinking and back to reading..lol
FoxySly
11-30-2009, 04:54 PM
When you ask over and over again, "How does this help find HaLeigh?", please expect to get the same answer each time. Nothing we do here is helping to find her.
BBM
Ditto. The "How does this help find HaLeigh?" line is a cope out many use when they don't like the discussion and even facts.
Sadly, 'we' aren't here to find HaLeigh, we are here to discuss the HaLeigh Cummings case, that is what this board is for.
And actually until HaLeigh is found how does ANYONE KNOW what has helped and what is not important? If you can predict the future there are other boards that have threads on it for the psychic discussion.
Obviously none of any of this is directed at you Tracian :wub: just jumping off your post.
I've followed cases for 4 decades now and some would be amazed at what ended up finally "finding" someone &/or solving a case.
oops! I thought I was quoting Tracian but the though is the same.
btw, cute nick aeiou
Sly
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panman
11-30-2009, 05:36 PM
Oh Tracian, I think you misunderstood me or I hope so anyway. I did not mean anything bad about the "wave" at all. I was just curious because I would see it here from time to time and I had no idea what it meant.
Now, that people have explained it I think it is great. In fact, if I knew anyone that had twitter and if I was smart enough to figure twitter out I would love to help with the "wave". Of course, I guess I need a typing lesson ( lol ) because I have no idea how anyone types those symbols.
IIRC, someone objected to the candle link, so depends.
FrankieBones1
11-30-2009, 05:39 PM
Lighting candles, posting here or keeping the wave going do not help find HaLeigh.
I do it because it makes me feel better as I think about a little abducted child.
What does it hurt? If you don't like it... don't do it. :shrug:
:smile: The rest of us will make our own choice.
MOO
The wave is a beautiful gesture, Rucky. So is discussing the case.
Let's try not to let the negatives overrun the thread. :rose:
FrankieBones1
11-30-2009, 05:55 PM
ITA with ya Chica! If Ron had not married Misty, I believe she would have moved with Timmy and Chelsea. Definitely a brilliant move on his part <<<snipped a bit>>>
Good post, SS and Chica.
TobyWong
11-30-2009, 07:12 PM
Good Evening All! You know I realize that "we" are not physically out searching for Haleigh but I really feel that the fact that we care enough to check her thread and maybe post a comment or two does help find missing children. If we don't keep up with the goings on and tell our friends about it, then who will continue to talk and hold out hope that a beautiful child cannot just disappear with out anyone caring? Who knows if one of us sees a child and it is her and we know what she looks like because we come her to discuss her. Stranger things have and do happen.
This is the first missing child I've followed and felt this much for, I am grateful for all of you that keep Haleighs name out there.
grammie/va
11-30-2009, 07:24 PM
I stole it from someone here who posted it first, then made a couple changes.
Rucky*Ron is a female btw... :smile:
Sorry for that,and I actually knew that you were female. I probally made that mistake before, and was corrected. I'll blame it own aging more every day HAHAHA
♥ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ KEEP"Google Wave" GOING for #HaleighCummings ★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 08:09 PM
I would bet that if I asked every person at the food store or any store up here in MA. I would be hard pressed to find 1 person who knows who Haleigh Cummings is. Even if I mentioned that a little girl was mistakenly thought to be Haleigh at Walmart in Abington, MA this summer, I doubt anyone would know what I was talking about. It was in the paper one day, never to be mentioned again. And I don't know anyone who watches Nancy Grace or HLN for that matter except for me when I am forced to watch. I know because I post here, that's it.
I think you know I was only repeating what was said on the BNN show.
I realize not everyone knows about Haleigh and how sad that Haleigh was mentioned one day only in that newspaper. It is a shame in my opinion they did not keep Haleigh's picture and information in that newspaper for at least a few weeks. It may be a very small chance that siting was of Haleigh, but why run the article one day only, again so sad.
Oh and btw, I did hear about Haleigh on the NG show. I do get frustrated with NG sometimes, but really she does do a lot of good for children and other crime victims.
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 08:47 PM
IIRC, someone objected to the candle link, so depends.
Well, I was not objecting to anything and as I said today I try my best to remember to light a candle for Haleigh. I guess I do not know what one has to do with the other, but that is ok.
TaraCrazyHair
11-30-2009, 08:52 PM
Good Evening All! You know I realize that "we" are not physically out searching for Haleigh but I really feel that the fact that we care enough to check her thread and maybe post a comment or two does help find missing children. If we don't keep up with the goings on and tell our friends about it, then who will continue to talk and hold out hope that a beautiful child cannot just disappear with out anyone caring? Who knows if one of us sees a child and it is her and we know what she looks like because we come her to discuss her. Stranger things have and do happen.
This is the first missing child I've followed and felt this much for, I am grateful for all of you that keep Haleighs name out there.I check in daily because I care
I realize my checking in will not bring her home -- but my support for her is still there
I am waiting the big 18 -- if still nothing -- then I will know the case has gone cold
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 08:55 PM
Good Evening All! You know I realize that "we" are not physically out searching for Haleigh but I really feel that the fact that we care enough to check her thread and maybe post a comment or two does help find missing children. If we don't keep up with the goings on and tell our friends about it, then who will continue to talk and hold out hope that a beautiful child cannot just disappear with out anyone caring? Who knows if one of us sees a child and it is her and we know what she looks like because we come her to discuss her. Stranger things have and do happen.
This is the first missing child I've followed and felt this much for, I am grateful for all of you that keep Haleighs name out there.
Excellent post and your statements are so true, IMO.
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 09:05 PM
I check in daily because I care
I realize my checking in will not bring her home -- but my support for her is still there
I am waiting the big 18 -- if still nothing -- then I will know the case has gone cold
I am with you Tara - I am here for Haleigh.
Lets hope and pray this case does not go cold, but I fear it is and I hope I am wrong.
TaraCrazyHair
11-30-2009, 09:10 PM
Prayers for the Cummings family...has to be hard thru the holidays without Haleigh.
Ron will just go spend it with friends
(shrug)
TaraCrazyHair
11-30-2009, 09:11 PM
I am with you Tara - I am here for Haleigh.
Lets hope and pray this case does not go cold, but I fear it is and I hope I am wrong.
We will know here shortly I am betting
N-2-L
11-30-2009, 09:26 PM
We will know here shortly I am betting
I think you are correct Tara because it should not take long after Misty turns 18 to get herself into trouble especially since Nay Nay is living with them. That blew my mind when I heard Nay Nay moved in with the Croslin family.
As I was reading your post above, you sounded about like how I feel about Ron spending the Holiday's with friends. I could only think how TN and GGS has stood by his side through everything since day one and he has to know the holidays are hard on them also with Haleigh missing. Then he up and spends Thanksgiving with "friends".
I hope the rumor I have heard of one of his " friends " is not true because JR should not be allowed around that, if you know what I mean.
In my opinion, both sides of the family need to be out searching, talking to media, etc. daily.
Tracian
11-30-2009, 09:39 PM
I think you are correct Tara because it should not take long after Misty turns 18 to get herself into trouble especially since Nay Nay is living with them. That blew my mind when I heard Nay Nay moved in with the Croslin family.
As I was reading your post above, you sounded about like how I feel about Ron spending the Holiday's with friends. I could only think how TN and GGS has stood by his side through everything since day one and he has to know the holidays are hard on them also with Haleigh missing. Then he up and spends Thanksgiving with "friends".
I hope the rumor I have heard of one of his " friends " is not true because JR should not be allowed around that, if you know what I mean.
In my opinion, both sides of the family need to be out searching, talking to media, etc. daily.
This whole thing attacking Ron for spending Thanksgiving with friends is just ridiculous. We have not idea the circumstances, just the way it is being spun by the internet rumor mill.
Incidently, we have no idea how the other side of the family spent Thanksgiving either, but I guess is someone wants to start a rumor that would be enough to take pot shots at them.
panman
11-30-2009, 09:53 PM
Its sounds as if some think Ron should just shrivel up and die. What would make some of you happy? Has anyone checked on what Crystal did for Thanksgiving? Do you think she ate? Get over it. :cursing:
Unleashed
11-30-2009, 10:18 PM
♥ ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ KEEP THE WAVE GOING for HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings ★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC
Thanks, R*R. Candles back up to 94!
mo
Tracian
11-30-2009, 10:29 PM
Its sounds as if some think Ron should just shrivel up and die. What would make some of you happy? Has anyone checked on what Crystal did for Thanksgiving? Do you think she ate? Get over it. :cursing:
Never fails to amaze me, nit pick at Ron, but whisper or hint about Crystal, the question becomes:
'How does this help find HaLeigh?'
Tracian
11-30-2009, 11:11 PM
Sorry N2L
I re read your post, and nothing was in there except where Ron spent Thanksgiving, that he was with *friends*, and that there is a rumor about who his friends maybe and that would be bad for Jr.
Of course you did say you thought both sides of the family should be searching and going to the media.
panman
11-30-2009, 11:21 PM
N2L, I guess we do learn something new everyday. My last post was to no one in particular. So why include my name?
Januarybaby
12-01-2009, 12:53 AM
Lighting candles, posting here or keeping the wave going do not help find HaLeigh.
I do it because it makes me feel better as I think about a little abducted child.
What does it hurt? If you don't like it... don't do it. :shrug:
:smile: The rest of us will make our own choice.
MOO
The person who asked wasnt being mean about the wave. That person asked if it helps find Haleigh, they would want to do it too ( in a previous post). They arent against it, they just wanted to know why people are doing it.
aproudmom
12-01-2009, 03:56 AM
Foxy Sly, I'm curious, why would you choose to believe anything Kim Picasio has to say? If you really read her documents and take the time to think about everything she says in them, you notice that she trips herself up in her own stories. Take the story she tells of Chloe being born with illegal narcotics in her system. She doesn't mention DCF involvement in that, does she? Interesting since she goes into all kinds of other details. When a baby is born with illegal narcotics in his/her system, that baby does NOT go home with mommy. Period. The mother will have to go to court to regain custody of her baby, AFTER the DCF investigation is completed. The crack pipes... does the fact that the family knew about the upcoming search not make you question Kim's claim that the truck and pipes belonged to Chad? And why did she feel the need to make that particular note public? It wasn't necessary for her in pleading her case to the bar and I will never believe that Kim did not plan to make certain that TJ Hart had all of the paperwork, notes, etc. so he could plaster it online. I don't see Crystal as an innocent angel nor do I see Ronald as pure scum, but Kim, as far as I'm concerned, cetainly warrants a more thorough investigation by the Florida bar for her actions in this case. JMO, of course.
ITA with your post:thumbup:
BBM
and really agree with the bold part. I wondered about her the first time she opened her mouth as CS lawyer IMO she caused more trouble than help. JMO of course:smile:
aproudmom
12-01-2009, 04:09 AM
The person who asked wasnt being mean about the wave. That person asked if it helps find Haleigh, they would want to do it too ( in a previous post). They arent against it, they just wanted to know why people are doing it.
BBM
I am still trying to figure out how in the heck they make the wave. I think it is sweet if they want to do it:wub: and I also took that post as you did.
aproudmom
12-01-2009, 04:14 AM
♥ ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ KEEP THE WAVE GOING for HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings ★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ø¤º°¨¨°º¤ø★ ♥
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC
I just lit mine there is 100 from 4 countries
HOPE 4 HALEIGH:rose:
just4justice
12-01-2009, 05:59 AM
BBM
I am still trying to figure out how in the heck they make the wave. I think it is sweet if they want to do it:wub: and I also took that post as you did.
Anyone that likes the wave can copy it and post it to their signature. I did.
Motomom
12-01-2009, 09:16 AM
Still praying for Haleigh.
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