Body Found- 11/16

[jewel6]

Jewel, I'm glad that you don't have to live near where she was found. You would remember always. Once I lived in a place where a little girl was murdered two streets over. I could never again go home w/out thinking of the night she disappeared. Thankfully, I no longer even live in that state. The man who did it, might have been stalking my daughter too. At the time right before this happened. She complained of a man in the window.

Its so sad. do you remmber the pregnant soldier? meghan touma. everytime i go to the mall try not park on the side of the mall becase the hotel room they found her in faces jc pennies and you can see it. :sad:

[lune3]

A volunteer found her

[birdwatch]

Jewel, I'm glad that you don't have to live near where she was found. You would remember always. Once I lived in a place where a little girl was murdered two streets over. I could never again go home w/out thinking of the night she disappeared. Thankfully, I no longer even live in that state. The man who did it, might have been stalking my daughter too. At the time right before this happened. She complained of a man in the window.

Don't we need a new thread now (body found) - while we wait to see if there will be a press conference?

[cog1]

Don't we need a new thread now (body found) - while we wait to see if there will be a press conference?

I think that is a good idea so everyone will know.

[AJandTam]

Its so sad. do you remmber the pregnant soldier? meghan touma. everytime i go to the mall try not park on the side of the mall becase the hotel room they found her in faces jc pennies and you can see it. :sad:

No, I don't remember her. I remember Maria Lauterbach.. but not her. I'll have to look that one up.

[AJandTam]

Don't we need a new thread now (body found) - while we wait to see if there will be a press conference?

I think CW likes us to start a new thread at 1,000 post, as I understand it. But she will change the status on the title of the thread.

[lune3]

hear what? where? all i ge
t is a black screen here?http://www.wral.com/news/video/6430003/

It's over now, it was a brief newscast. Announcer said a volunteer found the body. Location was shown. Then announcer said Shania Twain has been found....geez

[KatieLady]

It's over now, it was a brief newscast. Announcer said a volunteer found the body. Location was shown. Then announcer said Shania Twain has been found....geez

I heard that :rolleyes:

Story updated here with a new pic

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7120664

[Dunlurken]

forward the tape to about 2:45...........

hello sweet T............LTNS............so sorry it's for this:sad:

Thanks. I found it. How sad. :rose:

[Breakingnews]

Has Shaniyas big brother been mentioned in the media. I know he's in Foster care...just curious about his father & other relatives.

His dad lives in town. I found his birth announcement in google news archives and it listed the dad. Dad pays taxes on a car in Fayetteville. I don't know if he has any contact with his son.

[Dunlurken]

Yes, HLN is confirming her body has been found!

[camracrazy]

Body found:

http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/body-shaniya-davis-found-alongside-north-carolina-highway/story?id=9095622

:cursing:

[BorderCollieMom]

His dad lives in town. I found his birth announcement in google news archives and it listed the dad. Dad pays taxes on a car in Fayetteville. I don't know if he has any contact with his son.

Oh ! Ok thanks ! I sure pray he goes to some of his fathers family, IF theyre worthy of him.

[birdwatch]

Coe said he and Shaniya's mother, Antoinette Davis, were in a relationship and that Davis is pregnant with his child. He said Shaniya, though not his biological daughter, called him "daddy" and was wearing his other daughter's clothes when she was kidnapped.

http://www.fayobserver.com/Articles/2009/11/15/952410 Oh dear, Oh dear. I'm speechless. But y'all SR posters - WOn't you start a new link with Body Found so the rest of the board will pick up on it and
find out about the upcoming presser, etc.

[Leanne Weich]

I haven't slept for 2 nights now waiting and watching Fox News to hear that this precious baby had been found. I held out such hope she'd be alive and am distraught to hear her body has been found. My heart and prayers go out to Shaniya's dad and aunt. That poor man - how will he ever come to terms with the fact that he made such a bad decision?

[Justice4all]

I just walked in the door and heard Shaniya's body was found.......


:rose:

[Breakingnews]

HLN PC On.

Body found 100 feet off Walker road. Family to make positive ID. A more detailed PC at 4:30.

[Lynn Gweeny]

Body found 100 feet from the road according to the presser on HLN now.

[KatieLady]

From PC

Family to make the ID

Another PC at 4:30

found 100 ft off of road. Not giving any details until after ID.

[Jeepers]

From PC

Family to make the ID

Another PC at 4:30

found 100 ft off of road. Not giving any details until after ID.

How sad for the Dad and Aunt to have to do this.:rose::rose:

[AJandTam]

From PC

Family to make the ID

Another PC at 4:30

found 100 ft off of road. Not giving any details until after ID.

Let that Egg Donor do it.. Grrr I don't want the dad to see this..

[Brattnt]

Let that Egg Donor do it.. Grrr I don't want the dad to see this..

My heart hurts for him...:crying:

MOO

[Jeepers]

Let that Egg Donor do it.. Grrr I don't want the dad to see this..

I agree she should see what she has done. Not that it will affect her in any way but, just to spare the Dad.

[mrsmcgoo]

How sad for the Dad and Aunt to have to do this.:rose::rose:

They don't deserve this. But if the Dad was a soldier, which I thought I read, he proably would insist on it. :crying:

JMO

[Scampi]

I seriously doubt that the police are going to allow this family to ID those remains. For one thing, they have to do a dna match to prove it's Shaniya for the criminal trial.

[Dogmatic]

Did you really? LE in the beginning was giving off good vibes as if they knew she was okay. They had me fooled, thinking it was a matter of time til this beautiful little girl would be safe and found.

I agree. I really thought this one was going to end differently.

[AJandTam]

My heart hurts for him...:crying:

MOO

Yes it doees, and his sister too. I havent' seen any grandparents from that side yet. Are they still alive??

Sadly, I think he is going to have a hard time w/his choice to allow that baby to go off w/this women. I think the other poster is right. He saw his other children w/out a mother and didn't want that for Shaniya. He couldn't have known this would happen. It's a hindsight being 20/20. I don't blame him so much as her..

[jewel6]

Thanks riverwalk for clearing this up!

[Dogmatic]

I feel sorry for the volunteer that found her also. How haunting

[AJandTam]

I agree she should see what she has done. Not that it will affect her in any way but, just to spare the Dad.

Yes, spare the dad, he will have enough guilt to last him a lifetime.

[Jeepers]

They don't deserve this. But if the Dad was a soldier, which I thought I read, he proably would insist on it. :crying:

JMO

I understand. It is just so heartbreaking.

[Dunlurken]

Yes it doees, and his sister too. I havent' seen any grandparents from that side yet. Are they still alive??

Sadly, I think he is going to have a hard time w/his choice to allow that baby to go off w/this women. I think the other poster is right. He saw his other children w/out a mother and didn't want that for Shaniya. He couldn't have known this would happen. It's a hindsight being 20/20. I don't blame him so much as her..
Why am I so angry at McNeil? POS. Do we have any 911 calls yet?

[AJandTam]

I feel sorry for the volunteer that found her also. How haunting

I'm hoping she was covered or something and he didn't actually see anything bad. Just found something for the LE to check out. As for LE, not that it's any better for them either.

[lune3]

Has there been a video of that monster's court appearance yet? I had to take a walk, clear my head. TIA

[RayStar]

This is so senseless. I want the egg donor incubator to see her handiwork also.

[Jeepers]

I feel sorry for the volunteer that found her also. How haunting

Yes, Prayers for fall the searchers and a special prayer for the one who found Shaniya.
May God Give Them All Peace and Comfort.

[bhardy1956]

PHOTOS FROM THE SEARCH SITE - Body Found (courtesy of momtective at WS)

http://i33.tinypic.com/6405f9.jpg

http://i36.tinypic.com/vypf04.jpg

Was the body found in a box? Looking at the 2nd picture it sure looks like it. I am sure they are not giving out any information on this yet.

[Palm Palm]

Yes, spare the dad, he will have enough guilt to last him a lifetime.

That is how see it. I sure was praying for a miricle. So sad. :sad:

[AJandTam]

Why am I so angry at McNeil? POS. Do we have any 911 calls yet?

Not that i've seen Dun. They might release those soon. This is going to be big news.

[Justice4all]

I seriously doubt that the police are going to allow this family to ID those remains. For one thing, they have to do a dna match to prove it's Shaniya for the criminal trial.

When my sister was killed my mother and I id'ed her body even though they were going to have to do a DNA match for the criminal trial.

[lune3]

Was the body found in a box? Looking at the 2nd picture it sure looks like it. I am sure they are not giving out any information on this yet.

I thought I read earlier that she was buried, or at least partly...I might be wrong though..maybe it was speculation.

[AJandTam]

That is how see it. I sure was praying for a miricle. So sad. :sad:

I know last week we were so hopeful. :cursing:

[Dunlurken]

That white thing is the tarp covering the site. JMO.

So, back to my original question.... who reported her missing? I missed that part. JMO.

[Brattnt]

When my sister was killed my mother and I id'ed her body even though they were going to have to do a DNA match for the criminal trial.

Oh Justice, I'm so sorry...God bless you and your momma...((((HUGS))))...:rose:

[SavannahStar]

Oh dear, what a heartbreaking outcome!

:sad:
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[Jeepers]

This is so senseless. I want the egg donor incubator to see her handiwork also.

She did. She sent her out the door. She knew what was going to happen to Shaniya.
Even if she did see her at this point I don't feel it would matter much to her, like it did not matter much when she let that other POS walk out the door with her..

[bhardy1956]

Still waiting for the egg donor, you know that name is to good for her. Waiting for that piece of garbage to enter into the court room for her to stand before the judge with charges against her! I hope the judge isn't going to be as soft as he was with Coe.

[AJandTam]

I would think that since they said they had a pretty credible tip that the child had been there, they would not use civilian/volunteer searchers. Too much to handle for a layperson...

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6426418/

This link actually says it was a volunteer??

[Jeepers]

That white thing is the tarp covering the site. JMO.

So, back to my original question.... who reported her missing? I missed that part. JMO.

The POS mother. I don't understand why she called LE to begin with.
That does not make sense.

[lune3]

Still waiting for the egg donor, you know that name is to good for her. Waiting for that piece of garbage to enter into the court room for her to stand before the judge with charges against her! I hope the judge isn't going to be as soft as he was with Coe.

I can't imagine an attorney representing that witch, with all that's known.

[bhardy1956]

That white thing is the tarp covering the site. JMO.

So, back to my original question.... who reported her missing? I missed that part. JMO.

The mother reported her missing at around 6:53 AM, after supposedly putting her on the couch at 5:30 AM.

[Brattnt]

That white thing is the tarp covering the site. JMO.

So, back to my original question.... who reported her missing? I missed that part. JMO.

According to everything I have seen it was "she who must not be named" that called 911...Since I have no link I will just say MOO...

[AJandTam]

That white thing is the tarp covering the site. JMO.

So, back to my original question.... who reported her missing? I missed that part. JMO.

That person who gave birth to her.

[Lynn Gweeny]

There was no information immediately available on the cause of her death. One of the volunteer searchers, Annette Powers, said she was told that Shaniya was found in woods near a deer carcass.

http://www.fayobserver.com/Articles/2009/11/16/952562

[Justice4all]

Oh Justice, I'm so sorry...God bless you and your momma...((((HUGS))))...:rose:

ty so very much.

I really hope it's not the father that has to id Shaniya. Maybe her Aunt will do it for him.

I wonder if the "mother" knew she was dead.....

[lune3]

The POS mother. I don't understand why she called LE to begin with.
That does not make sense.

It's possible she had no intention to, but was forced to by her sister (if she's not involved) when Antoinette could not explain herself...I don't know.

[AJandTam]

I can't imagine an attorney representing that witch, with all that's known.

You would think not but she'll probably get a good high profile lawyer and Dr. Baden and Henry Lee..

[bhardy1956]

The POS mother. I don't understand why she called LE to begin with.
That does not make sense.

The only thing I can think of is because Shaniya's dad would be coming to see her or get her for a visit and what was she going to say? So she called and reported her missing? Just my opinion though.

Dang it! I need to go out and run some errands, I wish her court appearance would happen so, or I am going to have to catch on here later. Anyone here anything yet?

[AJandTam]

I don't think it could be any more clear...I feel sorry for whoever spotted Shaniya.

You are right, but when a story is breaking.. I leave room for media error. It happens ALOT..

[Tia]

I can't imagine an attorney representing that witch, with all that's known.

Sounds like a case for Jose Baez.

[cog1]

Human trafficking rare with a child this age. How sad this is!!

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/body-shaniya-davis-found-alongside-north-carolina-highway/story?id=9095622&page=1

[Jeepers]

You would think not but she'll probably get a good high profile lawyer and Dr. Baden and Henry Lee..

That is so sickening. They are like Sharks. They can smell a high profile case looming.

[AJandTam]

Sounds like a case for Jose Baez.

You can cheer someone up, even in times like these. :wub: girl.

[lune3]

lune3,
Hi, if you look at the first tinypic link that Lynn Gweeny posted, it appears to be some type of hole in the ground.

Yes I saw that hole, but would she have been removed before the coroner got there? Maybe those pics were shown afterwards. I remember with Sandra Cantu, it took forever to remove the suitcase. Shaniya was just found a couple of hours ago I believe.

[Jeepers]

Sounds like a case for Jose Baez.

Not to be laughing but I was thinking the same. I wonder if he can practice in NC. Nah not smart enough to pass another test. jmo

[veejaye]

When my sister was killed my mother and I id'ed her body even though they were going to have to do a DNA match for the criminal trial.

Justice4all, my deepest sympathy for your loss.

[tootie]

I hope I am not wrong in doing this but someone from scared monkeys started a candle page for Shaniya. So here is the link for those that want to light a candle for her........http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=snd

[AJandTam]

That is so sickening. They are like Sharks. They can smell a high profile case looming.

Yes and they love a case like this. It makes me sick but, we know how it goes. They always pick the least deserving. So much for a fair world.

[Dunlurken]

Quite frankly, and I know I shouldn't, but I also blame the father who had custody of Shaniya. He just "let her go" to those people? WTH was he thinking? Did he not check out the surroundings and where his daughter was going to be sleeping, etc. If he had taken one moment to check this out, and note the sewage, etc., I'm hoping he would not have left her there. JMO. I know he's got enough on his shoulders right now, but he could have prevented this.

Throw soft pillows please.

[mrsmcgoo]

Sounds like a case for Jose Baez.

Well ain't that the truth!

[Justice4all]

Justice4all, my deepest sympathy for your loss.

TY so much veejaye,...All i can say is I thank God everyday justice was served for my sister and i pray justice will be served for Shaniya.

[Jeepers]

Yup, surprised we didn't see Tim Miller, Mark Klaas, Padilla, or Cobra. JMO

Yeah. They managed without them. LE did a good job just the POS"S were faster.

[veejaye]

The only thing I can think of is because Shaniya's dad would be coming to see her or get her for a visit and what was she going to say? So she called and reported her missing? Just my opinion though.

Dang it! I need to go out and run some errands, I wish her court appearance would happen so, or I am going to have to catch on here later. Anyone here anything yet?

Bad things must have already been happening to Shaniya even before the day of disappearance. And Shaniya was old enought to tell her father all the things that were going on in that wretched trailer.

[Dunlurken]

I hope I am not wrong in doing this but someone from scared monkeys started a candle page for Shaniya. So here is the link for those that want to light a candle for her........http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=snd
Thank you. My candle is lit.

[mrsmcgoo]

Yup, surprised we didn't see Tim Miller, Mark Klaas, Padilla, or Cobra. JMO

Actually Mark Klaas's has been trying to wake people up about human trafficing.

JMO

[AnnieKins]

Yes, HLN is confirming her body has been found!

I am literally feeling sick to my stomach over this news this morning. I try very hard never to hate anyone, but it's going to take some time to get over how I feel about this "mother".

Praying for Shaniya's dad and auntie and other relatives who loved her.

[mrsmcgoo]

TY so much veejaye,...All i can say is I thank God everyday justice was served for my sister and i pray justice will be served for Shaniya.

:rose: I too am very sorry for your loss and very releaved that justice was served for you family.

[Jeepers]

Thank you. My candle is lit.

Thank you. My candle is lit.

[lune3]

Wasn't the monster due in court at either 2 or 2:30? Or was that time changed? Did I miss the hearing?

[cog1]

Good grief i can not believe your putting the blame on this child my own daughter was molested 20 yrs ago by her uncle and did not tell me until a few weeks ago. This child may have been told she would be killed if she told sorry all this just makes me mad.

I'm so sorry Drive by! I hope everything works out your family can heal!

I think some posters may just mean that poor Shaniya may have already endured some awful stuff in that home.

AMOO

[AJandTam]

Wasn't the monster due in court at either 2 or 2:30? Or was that time changed? Did I miss the hearing?

Glad you asked. I don't know now that the body has been found. They are maybe adding charges. I hope anyhow.

[mrsmcgoo]

Perhaps they are delaying the so called mothers court appearance because they are adding murder to her charges.

JMO

[lune3]

I misunderstood you, :blushing:
I thought you were just asking in general if the body was buried. sorry..........

Actually I was Elyssa, I thought I had read something to that effect...but I don't think it was in the hole shown for the reasons I gave before. No need to say sorry at all.

[watson]

I don't think the person was blaming the child at all. They are saying if the Dad/Aunt had called wouldn't Shaniya tell what was going on. I guess emotions are running high huh?

And certainly the "mom" would be worried that Shanyia would tell on them. Hence the ruse that she was "kidnapped". Anything to keep from returning Shaniya to her dad.

Sick bunch...

[Dogmatic]

5 years old and being sold for to people that want to rape her. What a bunch of perverts

[AJandTam]

And dont it make us all wonder about the poor little boy now at least it does me.

Yes, I have been wondering about him for days now.

[lune3]

Perhaps they are delaying the so called mothers court appearance because they are adding murder to her charges.

JMO

Yes you could be right. At the very least accomplice to murder?

[mrsmcgoo]

I am hoping that Coe will speak out about his cryptic remark about Shaniya not being in the livingroom now that Shaniya has been found.


JMO

[Dunlurken]

When I saw the film of her being carried into that motel room, I found myself focusing on, "at least she's alive." It gave me hope. It seemed they were close - so close to rescuing her.

This morning I couldn't wait to check in and read that she had been rescued. Not this - God, not this . . .

I know that it is probably too early to suggest that something good could come of this unspeakable saddness. But I pray that this helps expose the rabid human trafficking that goes on in this country.

For so long it has been a problem of massive porportion that few people were aware of. Having taken a class in it, I was always shocked at what little coverage it got, at how many people were unaware or believed it was a problem in other countries.

I don't want little Shaniya's short life and brutal death to become yet just one more sad story.

I apologize if I have offended anyone.
Trafficking in persons goes on everywhere. It's really tough when it hits so close to home. Normally, the people/children are sold into servitude for the pedophiles/nuts out there. You would think our own country, which is supposedly the best in the world, could do something about it.

I remember the story of a 5-month old in Mozambique (Africa) who was raped by so many men she was left for dead. Her entire insides were literally removed by the brutality of the assault. However, that little girl survived. Take what you will from my post. Something that haunts me every day. JMO.

This is why I believe, unfortunately, at least Shaniya is in the arms of the angels, not being brutally raped every few hours by someone. Maybe there is a silver lining to this cloud. JMO.

RIP Shaniya. :rose:

[cog1]

And dont it make us all wonder about the poor little boy now at least it does me.

I think all the children involved in this tragedy will be checked out thoroughly or at least I hope they will.

Lawd knows how many children are involved in this. So sad!!!!!!

[AJandTam]

I am hoping that Coe will speak out about his cryptic remark about Shaniya not being in the livingroom now that Shaniya has been found.


JMO

If he knew......... grrrrrrrr

[jewel6]

I am hoping that Coe will speak out about his cryptic remark about Shaniya not being in the livingroom now that Shaniya has been found.


JMO

Me too! I hope hes on nancy grace! jmo He doesnt seem like the type to hold back. and now he must be steaming at the mom. jmo

[Brattnt]

And dont it make us all wonder about the poor little boy now at least it does me.

Oh, me too!...I am so glad they removed him, but no telling what he has had to endure up to now...:crying:

MOO

[lune3]

I am hoping that Coe will speak out about his cryptic remark about Shaniya not being in the livingroom now that Shaniya has been found.


JMO

Three guys at the MH park were saying Coe was pacing around and appeared upset that Shaniya was missing. He's livid as it is, so it's possible he will divulge a lot more about that monster.

[TobyWong]

Oh this poor baby!
I think the mother had to call 911 at that time because I bet Shaniya was supposed to be brought back before then and time was running out before either Shaniya was supposed to go to school and/or Shaniya's father was coming in, so to cover her self she calls in an abduction. Then I think once they got to the hotel Mario got a call telling him she called 911 so he ran and who knows, passed her on later or was mad and killed her. IDK my mind is just reeling. As with everyone I cannot get the image of that poor baby crossing her legs, looking way to big to be in that mans arms. Peace be with everyone today.

[mrsmcgoo]

Yes you could be right. At the very least accomplice to murder?

Not sure the exact terms for the charges, but I would think accomplice to murder would be appropriate. Hopefully a charge that gives her all the punishment that she has earned. If that is possible I guess.

JMO

[cog1]

I am hoping that Coe will speak out about his cryptic remark about Shaniya not being in the livingroom now that Shaniya has been found.


JMO

I haven't heard that. When did he say something along those lines? She threw him under the bus no I guess it's her turn huh?

[BorderCollieMom]

I am hoping that Coe will speak out about his cryptic remark about Shaniya not being in the livingroom now that Shaniya has been found.


JMO

I bet Coe starts singing now !

[lune3]

Oh, me too!...I am so glad they removed him, but no telling what he has had to endure up to now...:crying:

MOO

Well I think it's telling that the little boy wasn't put into the custody of family members. I think it's possible he's been examined and is being questioned by child psychologists.

[veejaye]

This will make you cry. Shaniya's dad and aunt were on the CBS Early Morning show today pleading that she be returned to them. But what will make you weep is when they shared such sweet memories of such a sweet little girl. This is just so awful.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/6426847/

[mrsmcgoo]

Three guys at the MH park were saying Coe was pacing around and appeared upset that Shaniya was missing. He's livid as it is, so it's possible he will divulge a lot more about that monster.


I hope he lets lose and spills every single last detail he knows about this so called mother.

I know he has a criminal record himself, but I think most criminals have a severe dislike to perps that hurt children. Plus, here he is expecting a child with this person!

JMO

[febreze]

that this little girl is gone, i prayed she would be found alive but, i didn't think it would end that way and after seeing the photos of mcneill carrying her into a hotel i was sure it would end the way it did, She is safe with God now.
i'm sure mcneill will pay but, what about the sorry excuse for a mother what will she get????? a slap on the hand and a few months in jail? hopefully someone will do away with her while she is there, that's what she deserves.

[AJandTam]

Well I think it's telling that the little boy wasn't put into the custody of family members. I think it's possible he's been examined and is being questioned by child psychologists.

I am so w/you on that.

[tootie]

Well I think it's telling that the little boy wasn't put into the custody of family members. I think it's possible he's been examined and is being questioned by child psychologists.

Oh dear. Another possible victim of Antoinette Davis? To call her trash is too good. I am just infuriated with this thing. And what else ticks me off is her family starting to come out and speaking in defense of this inhumane thing on 2 feet. Didn't hear a word from that side of the family now it's, "My daughter wouldn't hurt her child" bull F'in crap she wouldn't. They ought to hang anyone that even defends that worthless piece of........

[Brattnt]

Well I think it's telling that the little boy wasn't put into the custody of family members. I think it's possible he's been examined and is being questioned by child psychologists.

I worded my post wrong Lune, sorry...I agree with everything you just said...

MOO

[Jeepers]

Oh dear. Another possible victim of Antoinette Davis? To call her trash is too good. I am just infuriated with this thing. And what else ticks me off is her family starting to come out and speaking in defense of this inhumane thing on 2 feet. Didn't hear a word from that side of the family now it's, "My daughter wouldn't hurt her child" bull F'in crap she wouldn't. They ought to hang anyone that even defends that worthless piece of........

Yeah, sounds like we have got another "Mother of the Year"
Anthonyism is spreading.jmo

[lune3]

This will make you cry. Shaniya's dad and aunt were on the CBS Early Morning show today pleading that she be returned to them. But what will make you weep is when they shared such sweet memories of such a sweet little girl. This is just so awful.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/6426847/

The dad speaking at the PC that night was so upsetting in itself, that I haven't been able to watch the interview yet...and probably won't given today's horrible news.

[AnnieKins]

Quite frankly, and I know I shouldn't, but I also blame the father who had custody of Shaniya. He just "let her go" to those people? WTH was he thinking? Did he not check out the surroundings and where his daughter was going to be sleeping, etc. If he had taken one moment to check this out, and note the sewage, etc., I'm hoping he would not have left her there. JMO. I know he's got enough on his shoulders right now, but he could have prevented this.

Throw soft pillows please.

Grrroooooaaannnn... I think the poor man is going through enough guilt and anguish right now without people on Internet message boards judging him on top of it. :sad:

[jadensmokes]

Rest in Peace with God, Shaniya.

I have no words for the incubator, other than die...and quickly. MOO

[lune3]

I worded my post wrong Lune, sorry...I agree with everything you just said...

MOO

I don't see anything you said that requires an apology Brattnt.

[AJandTam]

Rest in Peace with God, Shaniya.

I have no words for the incubator, other than die...and quickly. MOO

or a live w/a torchured mind. Even better if even possible..

[mrsmcgoo]

I haven't heard that. When did he say something along those lines? She threw him under the bus no I guess it's her turn huh?

Coe stated this when he was released and McNeill arrested. I am so sorry, I have tried to find the link. If you insist, I will keep looking, but I find it so disturbing to see the pics of McNeill holding Shaniya. I will go back though and look if you insist however.

[cog1]

Coe stated this when he was released and McNeill arrested. I am so sorry, I have tried to find the link. If you insist, I will keep looking, but I find it so disturbing to see the pics of McNeill holding Shaniya. I will go back though and look if you insist however.

No worries! I'm sure it will come up later and I beleive you I just hadn't heard that but I had been gone since Friday so I've missed a lot!!

TY!!!

[Justice4all]

:rose: I too am very sorry for your loss and very releaved that justice was served for you family.

TY so very much Mrs McGoo

[Tia]

or a live w/a torchured mind. Even better if even possible..

This woman shipped her daughter out to molesters, I hardly think that she will be give a second thought to what little Shaniya went through or feel a second of remorse.

ugh.

[mrsmcgoo]

No worries! I'm sure it will come up later and I beleive you I just hadn't heard that but I had been gone since Friday so I've missed a lot!!

TY!!!

I found it! Thanks for your patience with me on this!

From this link: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7116354

"Every day I was there the little girl was never in the living room," Coe said. "Every night when I slept there the little girl was never in the living room, so all I can say is educated people figure it out."

[Justice4all]

Perhaps they are delaying the so called mothers court appearance because they are adding murder to her charges.

JMO

I sure hope so and IMO this is a DP case. Does NC have the DP?

[mrsmcgoo]

I sure hope so and IMO this is a DP case. Does NC have the DP?

I think it was Jewel that stated that it is indeed a DP state. I hope you are right!

[tootie]

I found it! Thanks for your patience with me on this!

From this link: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7116354

"Every day I was there the little girl was never in the living room," Coe said. "Every night when I slept there the little girl was never in the living room, so all I can say is educated people figure it out."

I just took it that she never slept on the couch always in the bedroom. That it was out of character for her incubator to put her on the couch. But and a big but I have been naive about 1/2 of this stuff.....

[lune3]

I sure hope so and IMO this is a DP case. Does NC have the DP?

Someone a few pages back said yes, NC does.

[cog1]

I found it! Thanks for your patience with me on this!

From this link: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7116354

"Every day I was there the little girl was never in the living room," Coe said. "Every night when I slept there the little girl was never in the living room, so all I can say is educated people figure it out."

Wow, he did indeed throw her right under the bus! She should have known not to mess with him huh?

TY but you didn't have to do this!! But I enjoyed reading it!!

[lune3]

Wow, he did indeed throw her right under the bus! She should have known not to mess with him huh?

TY but you didn't have to do this!! But I enjoyed reading it!!

Remember, that witch also falsely identified Coe as driving out of the MH Park WITH Shaniya.

[mrsmcgoo]

Wow, he did indeed throw her right under the bus! She should have known not to mess with him huh?

TY but you didn't have to do this!! But I enjoyed reading it!!

No problem...I found it on the links thread here, should have looked there first!

[cog1]

Remember, that witch also falsely identified Coe as driving out of the MH Park WITH Shaniya.

IS she the one who said that? I didn't know that either! Lawd I did miss alot!

[TheGoat]

what exactly does the quote about never in the living room mean

[Dunlurken]

I found it! Thanks for your patience with me on this!

From this link: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7116354

"Every day I was there the little girl was never in the living room," Coe said. "Every night when I slept there the little girl was never in the living room, so all I can say is educated people figure it out."
Thank you so much! McNeil being held on $100,000 bond.

[mrsmcgoo]

I just took it that she never slept on the couch always in the bedroom. That it was out of character for her incubator to put her on the couch. But and a big but I have been naive about 1/2 of this stuff.....

I understand and can see what you are saying. I am the same, I was POSITIVE Shaniya would be home safe, not like this.

[tootie]

Thank you so much! McNeil being held on $100,000 bond.

I wonder if they ever raised the bond on Antoinette Davis, last I heard it was $51k? Anyone know? God I hope so.

[Tia]

what exactly does the quote about never in the living room mean

I assumed it meant "sleeping" in there on the couch like the mother claimed she was when she disappeared.

[JD1974]

Just got back from the dentist, I was really hoping this was going to turn out differently. RIP Shaniya...


Have they upgraded the charges on the incubator yet? The sooner the better, sick, sick woman.

[Dunlurken]

I just took it that she never slept on the couch always in the bedroom. That it was out of character for her incubator to put her on the couch. But and a big but I have been naive about 1/2 of this stuff.....

I think the point Coe was trying to make is this. He had nothing to do with Shaniya, which is evident.

How long had Shaniya been at the "home". Only 3-4 days IIRC.

[jewel6]

I think the point Coe was trying to make is this. He had nothing to do with Shaniya, which is evident.

How long had Shaniya been at the "home". Only 3-4 days IIRC.

I beleive it was weeks 3 to 4 weeks. :sad:

[Dogmatic]

Thank you so much! McNeil being held on $100,000 bond.

I wonder how much money McNeill gave that woman for Shaniya?

This is just so twisted.

I hope the prosecution has an iron-clad case

[lune3]

I assumed it meant "sleeping" in there on the couch like the mother claimed she was when she disappeared.

He was pretty much saying that Antoinette was fabricating her story IMO

[lune3]

I beleive it was weeks 3 to 4 weeks. :sad:

From what I read...since October 9.

[minimarshm]

Grrroooooaaannnn... I think the poor man is going through enough guilt and anguish right now without people on Internet message boards judging him on top of it. :sad:

I agree. Blaming the Father for acts he did not commit is wrong. I think he's going to live in his own selfimposed hell for trying to allow Mother and Daughter to have a relationship, attacking him online would seem rather unfair to do.

[jewel6]

He was pretty much saying that Antoinette was fabricating her story IMO

and he said she had 5,6,7,ect different stories. jmo

[Dunlurken]

I beleive it was weeks 3 to 4 weeks. :sad:

No, the dad was only supposed to be gone for three weeks and he thought he'd leave Shaniya with the POS. Link please.....Link withdrawal going on here. JMO.

[mrsmcgoo]

Have to run, hope to be on later.

Be kind to each other...stories like these sure get the emotions going.

[TobyWong]

I found it! Thanks for your patience with me on this!

From this link: http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7116354

"Every day I was there the little girl was never in the living room," Coe said. "Every night when I slept there the little girl was never in the living room, so all I can say is educated people figure it out."

I keep reading this over and over. My initial thought was that Shaniya was never around the home, maybe egg donor prostituted her all the time. He says when he was there during the day she was never in the living room but in another article I thought he said Shaniya called him 'daddy' so she would have to have been around enough to be calling him 'daddy'. But imo she was'nt around any of these people on a regular basis until recently so why would she call him 'daddy'? idk

[Dunlurken]

From what I read...since October 9.


THUD! You've got to be kidding?
My jaw is on the floor. Did the father speak to his daughter at all?

[lune3]

Mother appears in Court

Video link her within article...am going to watch it now.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/6426418/

[Mayasmimi]

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/6431768/

Antoinette's Aunt speaks.

[tootie]

Isn't there another PC coming up at around 4:30? Anyone have a link by chance? Thanks.

[4Kids]

This will make you cry. Shaniya's dad and aunt were on the CBS Early Morning show today pleading that she be returned to them. But what will make you weep is when they shared such sweet memories of such a sweet little girl. This is just so awful.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/6426847/

Have a kind heart is what Shaniya's aunt said. How do these people now deal with this?

For those questioning whether or not the father may have been told about the sexual abuse of this child via phone calls...are you kidding? Seriously. You believe that this grown man who is falling apart on live TV knew???? NO WAY do I believe that. Sick accusation as far as I am concerned. IMO

[onlykaty]

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/11/16/crimesider/entry5671683.shtml

There really aren't words to express my disgust for this mother.

:rose:

Nor mine Natalie, makes me sick. RIP Shaniya, hope you get to meet little Caylee Anthony. Justice will be served for you both. :rose::rose: for Caylee and Shaniya.


jmo

[Meridian]

:rose::rose::rose:

[Mayasmimi]

Isn't there another PC coming up at around 4:30? Anyone have a link by chance? Thanks.


Tootie...I've watched the prior PCs at WRAL.

[minimarshm]

Have a kind heart is what Shaniya's aunt said. How do these people now deal with this?

For those questioning whether or not the father may have been told about the sexual abuse of this child via phone calls...are you kidding? Seriously. You believe that this grown man who is falling apart on live TV knew???? NO WAY do I believe that. Sick accusation as far as I am concerned. IMO



I find it upsetting and a sad state of the board that the Father is somehow being blamed for the horror that occured at the hands of the child's Mother.

[5boxersmom]

Did she roll her eyes?

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/6431768/

[lune3]

You gotta listen to her Antoinette's aunt. Says she believes her niece didn't have anything to do with this. This is after the court appearance.

Did I hear correctly that Antoinette answered "No" to question of "do you understand you are being charged with child abuse"?

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/6431724/

[Tia]

I find it upsetting and a sad state of the board that the Father is somehow being blamed for the horror that occured at the hands of the child's Mother.

So do I. I'm sure that the thought of his daughter being prostituted out by her own mother never even entered his mind. Look at how much trouble we are having wrapping our brains around it.

[tootie]

I find it upsetting and a sad state of the board that the Father is somehow being blamed for the horror that occured at the hands of the child's Mother.

I do not agree with placing blame on the Dad either. Don't you think that he is already doing that to himself? I have used this example before and I'll use it again. Weeds don't need good soil, water or sun to grow. Weeds will grow through the crack of a sidewalk. This dad's mind is on autopilot, the bad thoughts will come without any nurturing at all......

[pixiejoolz]

I find it upsetting and a sad state of the board that the Father is somehow being blamed for the horror that occured at the hands of the child's Mother.

Those who are laying blame on the father are very much in the minority, imo. Most of the posts I've read lay the blame squarely where it should be: on that creature that calls itself a mother who sold this poor child. :angry:

[Scampi]

So do I. I'm sure that the thought of his daughter being prostituted out by her own mother never even entered his mind. Look at how much trouble we are having wrapping our brains around it.

Excellent point, Tia. :thumbup:

[Dunlurken]

Did he have court ordered physical custody? TIA

If the mother was never taken to court for this she may have been the one with (natural) custody since she was not married to the dad.

Perhaps he had no choice when she said she wanted Shaniya back..

MOO

The way I understand it.... he had sole custody. thought he'd give the Mom a "chance" to be a mom since she was now a CNA, etc. I'm sorry, I'm not giving him a break. How many times did he talk to his daughter since October 9?

Check out the CBS morning show link.

[lune3]

Did she roll her eyes?

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/6431768/

I caught that for a brief moment. I might be wrong but I thought she said "no" to the child abuse question of "do you understand..."

She doesn't look pregnant, unless she's very early.

[gladys kravits]

<snip>

Davis was calm and quiet during a five-minute court appearance in Fayetteville on Monday afternoon. She provided one-word answers to the judge's questions and held her hands in front of her, without handcuffs. She requested a court-appointed attorney and did not enter a plea.


Her sister, Brenda Davis, 20, said outside that she does not believe the charges.

"I don't believe she could hurt her children," Brenda Davis said. The sisters were able to speak at the jail Sunday, and Brenda Davis recalled that her sibling said she would not do that to her daughter.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,575304,00.html

[Dunlurken]

Those who are laying blame on the father are very much in the minority, imo. Most of the posts I've read lay the blame squarely where it should be: on that creature that calls itself a mother who sold this poor child. :angry:

NO ONE IS BLAMING THE FATHER.

You put your child out in the middle of traffic and a car hits the child. Who's to blame? If you say the person who ran over the child I will never post again. Some might like that. LOL.

[darcie]

Did she roll her eyes?

http://www.wral.com/news/local/video/6431768/

Truthfully (I think) the judge pronounced Shaniya's name wrong, and I think it through her off guard for a moment. She was prolly thinking...ohhhh...that wouldn't be me...my daughter isn't named that. I only heard it once, and havent't got a chance to watch it again, but I think the judge called her Shanika? Just my two cents

[tootie]

I caught that for a brief moment. I might be wrong but I thought she said "no" to the child abuse question of "do you understand..."

She doesn't look pregnant, unless she's very early.

Didn't look pregnant to me either.

[Jeepers]

Listening to the Aunt this is a disconnected Family. No Vigile for Shaniya planned by the family Nothing.

[TobyWong]

I caught that for a brief moment. I might be wrong but I thought she said "no" to the child abuse question of "do you understand..."

She doesn't look pregnant, unless she's very early.

No she did'nt look pregnant, no puffiness or swolleness. She also did'nt look to me like she had been shedding any tears at the news of LE finding her childs body. She would've been told around the time we all found out and I have a feeling we are more shocked and sadder than she is. imo

[Jeepers]

Truthfully (I think) the judge pronounced Shaniya's name wrong, and I think it through her off guard for a moment. She was prolly thinking...ohhhh...that wouldn't be me...my daughter isn't named that. I only heard it once, and havent't got a chance to watch it again, but I think the judge called her Shanika? Just my two cents

yep that is what the judge called her.

[lune3]

Truthfully (I think) the judge pronounced Shaniya's name wrong, and I think it through her off guard for a moment. She was prolly thinking...ohhhh...that wouldn't be me...my daughter isn't named that. I only heard it once, and havent't got a chance to watch it again, but I think the judge called her Shanika? Just my two cents

Yes I heard that too. It did catch her off guard for a second.

[tootie]

They just announced on HLN PC in *about* 5 minutes.

[tootie]

No she did'nt look pregnant, no puffiness or swolleness. She also did'nt look to me like she had been shedding any tears at the news of LE finding her childs body. She would've been told around the time we all found out and I have a feeling we are more shocked and sadder than she is. imo

She probably wasn't shocked because she probably already knew. My opinion only. Can't wait for NG to air tonight. Hopefully she can shed light on "child trafficking in America".

[darcie]

The way I understand it.... he had sole custody. thought he'd give the Mom a "chance" to be a mom since she was now a CNA, etc. I'm sorry, I'm not giving him a break. How many times did he talk to his daughter since October 9?

Check out the CBS morning show link.

We aren't privy to that information Dun...if we were, it would have been posted. When he talked to her, how long hasn't been reported.

MOO

[lune3]

No she did'nt look pregnant, no puffiness or swolleness. She also did'nt look to me like she had been shedding any tears at the news of LE finding her childs body. She would've been told around the time we all found out and I have a feeling we are more shocked and sadder than she is. imo

Just had a horrible thought. It was clear in a report that she was pregnant with Coe's child right? You don't suppose she sold her child because she needed money for......
Just a thought.

[darcie]

Didn't look pregnant to me either.

Somewhere, (I'll look for the link), she wasn't VERY pregnant.....I mean, she wasn't that far along.


And babies should be such good news....but this news just makes me feel sick all over.

[5boxersmom]

Truthfully (I think) the judge pronounced Shaniya's name wrong, and I think it through her off guard for a moment. She was prolly thinking...ohhhh...that wouldn't be me...my daughter isn't named that. I only heard it once, and havent't got a chance to watch it again, but I think the judge called her Shanika? Just my two cents

That might have been it. Doesn't seem to tore up about her child being dead and dumped along the road like trash.

I don't want to watch it again. Just something I noticed.

jmo

[Riverwalk!]

Live Link

http://live.mync.com/site/live_mync/

[Justice4all]

They just announced on HLN PC in *about* 5 minutes.

TY Tootie,..for the update i'm turning it to HLN now and ty so much for the pm :rose:

[Dunlurken]

We aren't privy to that information Dun...if we were, it would have been posted. When he talked to her, how long hasn't been reported.

MOO
That's the information I'm looking for. I'm also looking for the 911 call. And I don't think any of it has been released yet. JMO.

[lune3]

Live Link

http://live.mync.com/site/live_mync/

Thank you!

[pixiejoolz]

NO ONE IS BLAMING THE FATHER.

You put your child out in the middle of traffic and a car hits the child. Who's to blame? If you say the person who ran over the child I will never post again. Some might like that. LOL.



In your post #79, you wrote, "Quite frankly, and I know I shouldn't, but I also blame the father who had custody of Shaniya." I don't understand how that jives with your above post claiming that no one is blaming the father.

The traffic analogy doesn't work. If you put your child out in the middle of traffic you are at fault because you know that the child will almost certainly be hit. If you allow a child's mother who claims to have cleaned up her act to see that child, I don't see how you could possibly know that the child will almost certainly be harmed. He made a terrible, irrevocable, tragic mistake and I'm sure it will haunt him forever. jmo

[merical]

I am so totally and utterly sickened by this outcome. That poor baby. Just so, so sad.:sad:

[Riverwalk!]

Thank you!

YW>
Hasn't started yet. There's that train again!!

[tootie]

TY Tootie,..for the update i'm turning it to HLN now and ty so much for the pm :rose:

Your welcome on the PM and link. That *5 minutes* could turn into an hour. I do hope we get more information at the PC then we did the last one. Like are we still suppose to be looking for this 60 year old man in blue Toyota or not. It's on now....

[Justice4all]

Why is she laughing and smiling?:scared:

[5boxersmom]

Starting on HLN.

Glad that woman can smile. :rolleyes:

jmo

[lune3]

Chance again, that woman IRKS me with all her smiling....UGH

[Dustee]

Did anyone else get the impression that the judge was bending over backwards to make sure she doesn't talk to anyone except her lawyer? Is that standard to emphasize it like that????

[Lavinya]

Watching Theresa Chance on pressor and she needs to lose the smiles and grins, IMO.

[KatieLady]

YW>
Hasn't started yet. There's that train again!!

I want to smack this woman :cursing:

No ID yet....body still where it was found

[lune3]

EXHUME?????? Shaniya is buried.

[KatieLady]

Did anyone else get the impression that the judge was bending over backwards to make sure she doesn't talk to anyone except her lawyer? Is that standard to emphasize it like that????

He did the same thing when we watched Coe in court IMO

[Justice4all]

EXHUME?????? Shaniya is buried.

Yes ma'am i believe so :crying:
but won't that help preserve DNA and everything?

[tootie]

EXHUME?????? Shaniya is buried.

I caught that as well. So, they haven't even removed her yet?

[5boxersmom]

EXHUME?????? Shaniya is buried.

Sounds like it.

[lune3]

This woman needs to learn a thing or too about appropriate behaviour...geez

[KatieLady]

EXHUME?????? Shaniya is buried.

It looked like it from the picture we saw lune :sad:

[GumShoeJoe]

IMO it meant she never slept in the living room-onn the couch-- until the day her birth unit sold her to the devil. Just a guess.

Not having read up on all the material a lot of you have been following, I thought, that with the "educated people" remark, he was saying the child didn't live there and had been missing from the residence a lot longer than the time she was reported missing.

This is a stomach wrenching crime.

[minimarshm]

The way I understand it.... he had sole custody. thought he'd give the Mom a "chance" to be a mom since she was now a CNA, etc. I'm sorry, I'm not giving him a break. How many times did he talk to his daughter since October 9?

Check out the CBS morning show link.

can you give me a link that shows that he was involved in the disappearance and murder of his daughter?
blame should go to those who did this.

[lune3]

She doesn't KNOW if anybody has talked to Mr. Lockhart????

[KatieLady]

She doesn't KNOW if anybody has talked to Mr. Lockhart????

This woman is terrible IMO

[tootie]

Yes, this woman is the one that had my hopes up when she got done with the Thursday night PC.

[cog1]

I caught that as well. So, they haven't even removed her yet?

Tootie, I can't imagine her still being there! That breaks my heart even more! Poor baby!!

[lune3]

I hate this woman,,,she sounds as if stolen property was recovered, not a CHILD"S body.

[KatieLady]

Yes, this woman is the one that had my hopes up when she got done with the Thursday night PC.

Yes...now we know we shouldn't have read anything into her being so upbeat :rolleyes:

[tootie]

So does anyone know if America is suppose to be on the look out for this 60 year old man in a blue Toyota or not? Wish the reporter asked that question.

[Breakingnews]

Did anyone else get the impression that the judge was bending over backwards to make sure she doesn't talk to anyone except her lawyer? Is that standard to emphasize it like that????

I thought he was trying to drag out it to make sure the media got some camera time....kinda like a nice long perp walk.

[annalyzer]

Truthfully (I think) the judge pronounced Shaniya's name wrong, and I think it through her off guard for a moment. She was prolly thinking...ohhhh...that wouldn't be me...my daughter isn't named that. I only heard it once, and havent't got a chance to watch it again, but I think the judge called her Shanika? Just my two cents

He did but that isn't when she rolled her eyes up and to the left. It was after he told her she was charged with felony child abuse.

[cog1]

So does anyone know if America is suppose to be on the look out for this 60 year old man in a blue Toyota or not? Wish the reporter asked that question.

Great question and I had forgotten about it!

[jakee]

She doesn't KNOW if anybody has talked to Mr. Lockhart????

I caught that too. :confused: Also she said it wasn't a "tip" that led them there but a "credible source" ....wouldn't that be a tip? Or is a tip anonymous?

[Justice4all]

She doesn't KNOW if anybody has talked to Mr. Lockhart????

Okay now i'm starting to physically feel ill again..........barf

[Dustee]

I caught that as well. So, they haven't even removed her yet?

I'm sure it takes a while - they will want to examine her and recover as much evidence as possible before they remove her in order to preserve it. That way the defense can't say it was tampered with, etc. They have to be methodical.

[Destini]

This woman is terrible IMO

Agree ... somebody needs to discuss appropriate behavior with her.

Hard to believe, whoever did this, if they knew LE was closing in, would take the time to actually bury this child.

[annalyzer]

He did the same thing when we watched Coe in court IMO

Yep that was what I was going to say.

[AJandTam]

Did anyone else get the impression that the judge was bending over backwards to make sure she doesn't talk to anyone except her lawyer? Is that standard to emphasize it like that????

He did that w/Coe too. It's that particular judges way of doing things, it looks like. I think, they are suppose to read them thier rights, but I do think this particular judge over does it a bit..

[cog1]

He did that w/Coe too. It's that particular judges way of doing things, it looks like. I think, they are suppose to read them thier rights, but I do think this particular judge over does it a bit..

Where did you go? Did you see the pressor?

[KatieLady]

I'm sure it takes a while - they will want to examine her and recover as much evidence as possible before they remove her in order to preserve it. That way the defense can't say it was tampered with, etc. They have to be methodical.

Agreed....but it is going to be dark there soon :sad:

[lune3]

Agree ... somebody needs to discuss appropriate behavior with her.

Hard to believe, whoever did this, if they knew LE was closing in, would take the time to actually bury this child.

Not only that but I'm wondering if it was intentional to bury her near a deer carcass. Any scavenging animals would go after the deer. If so, this murderer is much more methodical than I'd expected......possibly due to experience????

[AJandTam]

He did but that isn't when she rolled her eyes up and to the left. It was after he told her she was charged with felony child abuse.

Did that judge call this baby Shanika instead of Shaniya? I could have sworn he did.

[tootie]

sorry for this stupid question but who is this Coe you guys keep referring to?TIA

First POI they arrested and released.

[cog1]

sorry for this stupid question but who is this Coe you guys keep referring to?TIA

Hey luv,

He is the moms' bf and was arrested first on the kidnapping charges but was released and then McNeil was arrested for kidnapping.

[AJandTam]

Not only that but I'm wondering if it was intentional to bury her near a deer carcass. Any scavenging animals would go after the deer. If so, this murderer is much more methodical than I'd expected......possibly due to experience????

Experience. YIKES> God I hope not!

[KatieLady]

sorry for this stupid question but who is this Coe you guys keep referring to?TIA

He is the mothers b/f....was arrested first when she told LE that he took Shaniya. Latter released when they found out about McNeil

[annalyzer]

Great question and I had forgotten about it!

So I missed the presser?

[cog1]

Not only that but I'm wondering if it was intentional to bury her near a deer carcass. Any scavenging animals would go after the deer. If so, this murderer is much more methodical than I'd expected......possibly due to experience????

That is a scary thought and also wonder if they thought it would throw people off the smell. You know, the deer is what we are smelling type of thing?

AMOO

[cog1]

So I missed the presser?

All of maybe 2 minutes! It wasn't much. We do they still need to exhume her little body.

[annalyzer]

Not only that but I'm wondering if it was intentional to bury her near a deer carcass. Any scavenging animals would go after the deer. If so, this murderer is much more methodical than I'd expected......possibly due to experience????


I highly doubt he'd know there was a deer carcass over there.

[cog1]

Thanks Peeps. ok so there's no more pressers or courts or anything i'm missing right now right?

NOt that I know of this is it for now.

[annalyzer]

Did that judge call this baby Shanika instead of Shaniya? I could have sworn he did.


Yes, probably bad eyesight.

[AJandTam]

Where did the shovel to dig a grave come from?

[KatieLady]

Anyone know anything about the road she was found off of? Is it a highway? Rural road (2 lane)? Dirt road?

I am just wondering if someone saw a car parked there in the time frame?

[lune3]

sorry for this stupid question but who is this Coe you guys keep referring to?TIA COGGG HELPPPPP (stupid work got me away from what was happening)

Coe is/was Antoinette's bf. He was arrested initially because he was "seen" leaving the MH Park with Shaniya that morning. Evidently Antoinette herself reported that. Coe later said Antoinette is his ex girlfriend and he was at his own home that night/morning. He was released after the hotel tape came to light.

Thank God for the hotel employee who called in the tip after the Amber Alert.

[Dunlurken]

I highly doubt he'd know there was a deer carcass over there.

Who is "he"?

[KatieLady]

Where did the shovel to dig a grave come from?

Hopefully it is in that car with the dark tinted windows!!!:cursing:

[Jeepers]

Not only that but I'm wondering if it was intentional to bury her near a deer carcass. Any scavenging animals would go after the deer. If so, this murderer is much more methodical than I'd expected......possibly due to experience????

That is a scary thought. What is even scarier he must have known the spot beforehand. He took the time to bury her. Wonder why he was not worried about being seen or his car being seen?

[annalyzer]

Who is "he"?


Whoever put Shaniya's body there. I assume it was a he.

[AJandTam]

Yes, probably bad eyesight.

Thought so, thanks for answering.

[darcie]

That might have been it. Doesn't seem to tore up about her child being dead and dumped along the road like trash.

I don't want to watch it again. Just something I noticed.

jmo

Oh...i totally agree with that.....

[Riverwalk!]

Not only that but I'm wondering if it was intentional to bury her near a deer carcass. Any scavenging animals would go after the deer. If so, this murderer is much more methodical than I'd expected......possibly due to experience????

AND thinking (stupidly) that cadaver dogs would lead to the deer "only"

[Destini]

So who is the "credible source" that knew exactly where this child was? If it was McNeill, which I assume it was, then he must have killed her, right?

What other source could there be?

[KatieLady]

AND thinking (stupidly) that cadaver dogs would lead to the deer "only"

If it was McNeil I wonder if he left his cell phone on?? I sure hope so!

[AJandTam]

Hopefully it is in that car with the dark tinted windows!!!:cursing:

Shows intent if he had a shovel and buried her. IMHO.

[lune3]

I highly doubt he'd know there was a deer carcass over there.

No, I guess that was a bit out there but I meant when he was in the wooded area ....it's possible he chose the spot nearby when he looked around.
Probably coincidental though.

[cog1]

So who is the "credible source" that knew exactly where this child was? If it was McNeill, which I assume it was, then he must have killed her, right?

What other source could there be?

I don't know if it McNeil because it was reported several times that he was not cooprating. That is why earlier today I thought maybe there is someone else involved in this.


AMOO

[Dunlurken]

Anyone know anything about the road she was found off of? Is it a highway? Rural road (2 lane)? Dirt road?

I am just wondering if someone saw a car parked there in the time frame?

Highway 87. Paved and possibly four lanes with grass in between coming and going. Been a long time since I travelled down those roads. JMO. They showed the map during the presser.

[Riverwalk!]

If it was McNeil I wonder if he left his cell phone on?? I sure hope so!

Good thought. When McNeill turned himself in to LE, it was "reported" his family told him to. Maybe he talked to family. All the reports I've read has said McNeill was NOT cooperating with LE.

[Destini]

I don't know if it McNeil because it was reported several times that he was not cooprating. That is why earlier today I thought maybe there is someone else involved in this.


AMOO

I just had a bad thought. We know the mother was at the police station a lot this week, but was she there ALL the time? Were they watching her when she wasn't there?

[KatieLady]

Highway 87. Paved and possibly four lanes with grass in between coming and going. Been a long time since I travelled down those roads. JMO. They showed the map during the presser.

Thanks Dun.....

[lune3]

Anyone know anything about the road she was found off of? Is it a highway? Rural road (2 lane)? Dirt road?

I am just wondering if someone saw a car parked there in the time frame?

Rural road that turns off from the highway 87, runs parallel to it some way, then turns back onto the 87. Called Walker Road. South of Sanford on the way back to Fayetteville. Lots of wooded are, and a couple of residences/farms.

[cog1]

I just had a bad thought. We know the mother was at the police station a lot this week, but was she there ALL the time? Were they watching her when she wasn't there?

I don't think she would have had much chance to do this but hey who knows?

[KatieLady]

Rural road that turns off from the highway 87, runs parallel to it some way, then turns back onto the 87. South of Sanford on the way back to Fayetteville. Lots of wooded are, and a couple of residences/farms.

Oh...ok. So not a big highway. A car might be noticed parked on the side?

[cog1]

I gotta run ya'll please take good notes and post links for me tomorrow so I can catch up!

Good posting with you all today!

[KatieLady]

ok, mcneill was the dude that was seen in the hotel correct?

ok, ya'll can start throwing things at me now...:crying:

LOL yes that is right my little burritio

[darcie]

This woman needs to learn a thing or too about appropriate behaviour...geez

Seems like she is liking the spotlight a little to much....

I haven't took a real liking to her from the start of this entire mess. Who knows. Maybe I just didn't (and or don't) like the information in her reports and I am holding it against her.

[lune3]

ok, mcneill was the dude that was seen in the hotel correct?

ok, ya'll can start throwing things at me now...:crying:

Yes, that was McNeill. McNeil is the ex boyfriend of the sister Brenda ..I believe.