Nov 13 thru 11/22

[daniel green]

Let's keep it within TOS, you all.

[daniel green]

Lawyers for TLC are seeking court permission to depose Stephanie Santoro in their breach of contract lawsuit against Jon Gosselin. Santoro had a brief romantic fling with Jon and worked for a short time babysitting his kids. She has publicly acknowledged their relationship in recent interviews.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-jon%E2%80%99s-gosselin%E2%80%99s-babysitter-pal-be-deposed

[Justice4all]

Let's keep it within TOS, you all.

were we not already?:confused:

[Justice4all]

Jon, Kate Gosselin Will Reunite To Discuss Past, Future In Show FinaleJon, Kate Gosselin Will Reunite To Discuss Past, Future In Show Finale


Jon, 32, and Kate, 34, will open up about the recent events since their split earlier this year, the point which they transformed from a run-of-the-mill reality TV family to tabloid superstars. The divorcing couple will also address their future projects, as well as what they have planned for their children.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/jon-kate-gosselin-will-reunite-discuss-past-future-show-finale


Why does TLC want to involve Jon in this show?:confused:

[Mnchkin426]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-jon%E2%80%99s-gosselin%E2%80%99s-babysitter-pal-be-deposed

Looks like TLC is finding everyone. Wonder who is left?

JMO

[Justice4all]

Looks like TLC is finding everyone. Wonder who is left?

JMO

What about the brother that first reported Jon was cheating on Kate?

[daniel green]

Looks like TLC is finding everyone. Wonder who is left?

JMO

The teacher and her brother. Oh, and the college girls whose party Jon attended and the mgrs/bartenders of the bars where he spent all that time.

[Justice4all]

The teacher and her brother. Oh, and the college girls whose party Jon attended and the mgrs/bartenders of the bars where he spent all that time.

Yepppppp....
I wonder if any of them will be call when the child custody stuff gets started.

[Mnchkin426]

The teacher and her brother. Oh, and the college girls whose party Jon attended and the mgrs/bartenders of the bars where he spent all that time.

I suppose it will depend on whether they might have information that TLC thinks will strengthen their case.

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

Yepppppp....
I wonder if any of them will be call when the child custody stuff gets started.

Maybe custody issues will be settled privately. I think that might be better all around.

JMO

[Justice4all]

I suppose it will depend on whether they might have information that TLC thinks will strengthen their case.

JMO

I wonder if Jon's lawyers will ask Kate under oath when her and Jon really split up.

[Justice4all]

Maybe custody issues will be settled privately. I think that might be better all around.

JMO

ohhhhhhhhh yeah they will be because it will involve minors ....Right?
I think we'll only find out if kate gets full custody, or if it's joint custody, or supervised visitation.

[Mnchkin426]

Excuse any typos.....tryink to type on the laptip with a large Golden Retriever clibming into my lap....she thinks she's still a little pippy.

[daniel green]

I wonder if Jon's lawyers will ask Kate under oath when her and Jon really split up.

How would that be relevant to the injunction hearing?

[Mnchkin426]

I wonder if Jon's lawyers will ask Kate under oath when her and Jon really split up.

Not sure it is relevant to the divorce.

JMO

[Justice4all]

How would that be relevant to the injunction hearing?

I meant during the divorce hearing not the injunction.

[Justice4all]

Not sure it is relevant to the divorce.

JMO

Not sure about that. Jon might say he's acted the way he's acted because they were already split up and he was living over the garage.

I also wonder if Jon has proof he tried to get out of the contract with TLC.


MHO

[Mnchkin426]

Not sure about that. Jon might say he's acted the way he's acted because they were already split up and he was living over the garage.

I also wonder if Jon has proof he tried to get out of the contract with TLC.


MHO

Seems a bit far fetched to me but who knows what Jon might say.

Haven't seen anything that looks like proof that Jon tried to get out of his contract, but, again, who knows what Jon will say.

JMO

[delteca]

Maybe custody issues will be settled privately. I think that might be better all around.

JMO

I'm with you.

[Justice4all]

Seems a bit far fetched to me but who knows what Jon might say.

Haven't seen anything that looks like proof that Jon tried to get out of his contract, but, again, who knows what Jon will say.

JMO

Yeah i'm wonder when they really split up.
Seems like the brother and SIL knew about the split and went public before we ever saw Jon out with the teacher.

MHO

[Justice4all]

Does anyone find it funny that as soon as the ratings start slipping they ask Jon to come back on the show and sit down with Kate and talk?

IMO it will sky rocket the ratings........

[Justice4all]

Jon's Rep Says Cocaine And Sex Tape Claims Are Untrue!


"It is truly false," the rep confirms. "It's sad that people are picking this up."

Jon's bodyguard, Thomas Meinelt, is even planning to sue the Enquirer for being "accused falsely in this whole story." The Enquirer claimed that Meinelt revealed the incrimination information about Jon in the court documents.


http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/rep-jon-gosselin-sex-tape-cocaine-claims-false-20091311

I wonder why Kate's bodyguard doesn't want to sue..........
things that make you go hmmmmm:sneaky:

[Justice4all]

Looks like Radar got it wrong again


Jon and Kate Gosselin NOT Sharing Couch for Finale


http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00028854.html

[Justice4all]

I still have to wonder why TLC wants Jon involved with the finale.

[daniel green]

Not sure it is relevant to the divorce.

JMO

Not in the least, in this case.

[Justice4all]

Not in the least, in this case.

How do you know? Are you a lawyer?

[Casecase]

I still have to wonder why TLC wants Jon involved with the finale.

I'm not really surprised - he was there at the beginning, he should be there at the end.

So this sounds like it's really the end. Do I remember correctly that Jon's counterlawsuit talked about TLC essentially holding him prisoner because the show was on indefinite hiatus? If it was on indefinite hiatus before, it doesn't sound like it is now - it sounds like it's done.


IMO

[Mnchkin426]

How do you know? Are you a lawyer?

Why do you think that the time of their split might be relevant to the divorce?

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

Looks like Radar got it wrong again


Jon and Kate Gosselin NOT Sharing Couch for Finale


http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00028854.html

Maybe not sharing the couch but it looks like they are both going to be talking.

JMO

[birdwatch]

Maybe not sharing the couch but it looks like they are both going to be talking.

JMOLOL- and talking and talking and talking!

[Mnchkin426]

Jon's Rep Says Cocaine And Sex Tape Claims Are Untrue!




http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/rep-jon-gosselin-sex-tape-cocaine-claims-false-20091311

I wonder why Kate's bodyguard doesn't want to sue..........
things that make you go hmmmmm:sneaky:

Who would Kate's bodyguard sue.....the multitude of gossip/rumor mongers? Not very realistic IMO. Jon's bodyguard, if he does sue the National Enquirer, has a single source to go after...a deep pocket one at that.

JMO

[daniel green]

TLC's lawyers have filed court papers in Maryland asking the judge for permission to serve Stephanie Santoro with a subpoena. They also want Stephanie's records.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/13/tlc-to-jons-nanny-get-your-butt-in-court/#ixzz0Wr3FS0U9

[daniel green]

Even though the two recently announced they were "taking a break," a source tells E! News they're in constant contact..."They're on. They talk, like, five times a day," a source tells us of the twosome. "They're very up and down, like teenagers. She loves him." Could the infamous dad of eight have announced his split with Hailey in hopes of rehabbing his rep?

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/hwood_party_girl/b153695_jon_gosselin_hits_hawaii_sans_hailey.html

[daniel green]

Maybe not sharing the couch but it looks like they are both going to be talking.

JMO

There has been nothing from TLC about it and nothing about it on their website or schedule.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/daily.html?date=20091117.321

[Mnchkin426]

There has been nothing from TLC about it and nothing about it on their website or schedule.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/daily.html?date=20091117.321

Oops.....I should have investigated further. Thanks, DG. Guess it's another wait and see.

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

There has been nothing from TLC about it and nothing about it on their website or schedule.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/daily.html?date=20091117.321

Nov 23, 11:00 pm

(60 minutes)
Remind Me Jon & Kate Plus 8
It's a Crazy Life, But it's Our Life
TV-PG

In the series finale Kate and the kids milk cows at a dairy farm. Jon and the kids learn about firefighting and help out at a firestation. Then, Jon and Kate speak about recent life events, the series and the ups and downs of the last few years.

Think this shows that it will be happening. Couldn't get the link to transfer but it is on the schedule on TLC's website. Check the 23rd on the schedule....at 11:00PM.

JMO

[Justice4all]

There has been nothing from TLC about it and nothing about it on their website or schedule.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/daily.html?date=20091117.321

Ummmm it's on their website.

[Justice4all]

Oops.....I should have investigated further. Thanks, DG. Guess it's another wait and see.

JMO

It was there yesterday....I guess i should have posted that link. Sorry.

[Justice4all]

Nov 23, 11:00 pm

(60 minutes)
Remind Me Jon & Kate Plus 8
It's a Crazy Life, But it's Our Life
TV-PG

In the series finale Kate and the kids milk cows at a dairy farm. Jon and the kids learn about firefighting and help out at a firestation. Then, Jon and Kate speak about recent life events, the series and the ups and downs of the last few years.

Think this shows that it will be happening. Couldn't get the link to transfer but it is on the schedule on TLC's website. Check the 23rd on the schedule....at 11:00PM.

JMO
Yep it's all the way at the bottom.........
http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/daily.html?date=20091123.327

I should have posted the link yesterday but i didn't think i needed to. Sorry

[Justice4all]

Maybe not sharing the couch but it looks like they are both going to be talking.

JMO

Very true............Why would TLC want to pay Jon to do this?

[Justice4all]

Who would Kate's bodyguard sue.....the multitude of gossip/rumor mongers? Not very realistic IMO. Jon's bodyguard, if he does sue the National Enquirer, has a single source to go after...a deep pocket one at that.

JMO

Couldn't he sue Jon for starting the rumor?:confused:

[Mnchkin426]

Very true............Why would TLC want to pay Jon to do this?

Good will? Show was taped much earlier... before the lawsuit? Proving that they were keeping him on the show and willing to pay him? Who knows. Personally, I think it is the second.

JMO

[Justice4all]

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/hwood_party_girl/b153695_jon_gosselin_hits_hawaii_sans_hailey.html

I hope it's true he wants to start making decisions that will make his children proud.

[Mnchkin426]

Couldn't he sue Jon for starting the rumor?:confused:

Maybe Kate asked him not to. Not everyone wants to get involved in a lawsuit.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Good will? Show was taped much earlier... before the lawsuit? Proving that they were keeping him on the show and willing to pay him? Who knows. Personally, I think it is the second.

JMO

Maybe the show was taped before....but i doubt it.
Was it before Jon put the sign up and told them to leave and basically never come back?
and why would they want to keep him on the show and payroll if he was breaking all their rules?
See something just doesn't add up to me.
Maybe Jon's thinking about letting them do Kate plus 8 or maybe .......Oh heck i don't know LOL


MHO

[Justice4all]

Maybe Kate asked him not to. Not everyone wants to get involved in a lawsuit.

JMO

Well that could be true but in the mean time him not suing makes it seem like it's true to me..........MHO

and maybe if he sued that would force who ever he sued to ask for the DJ, nannies, friends and family to come in and tell what all they've heard and seen.


MHO

[daniel green]

snipped Show was taped much earlier... before the lawsuit?

That's probly it. That it was taped before Jon kicked TLC out of the house on the day they fired him.

[Mnchkin426]

Maybe the show was taped before....but i doubt it.
Was it before Jon put the sign up and told them to leave and basically never come back?
and why would they want to keep him on the show and payroll if he was breaking all their rules?
See something just doesn't add up to me.
Maybe Jon's thinking about letting them do Kate plus 8 or maybe .......Oh heck i don't know LOL


MHO

Since TLC had to stop filming the children per Jon's order, the dairy farm and fire station scenes had to have been filmed earlier. I assume that these scenes were filmed before things got nasty (and Jon started bad mouthing TLC and appearing on tabloid TV)..... when Jon was still willing to work under the 2009 contract and allow the children to be filmed. Can't explain my opinion any better.

JMO

[daniel green]

snipped Then, Jon and Kate speak about recent life events, the series and the ups and downs of the last few years.



JMO

That has been on the schedule for some time now.

[Mnchkin426]

Well that could be true but in the mean time him not suing makes it seem like it's true to me..........MHO

and maybe if he sued that would force who ever he sued to ask for the DJ, nannies, friends and family to come in and tell what all they've heard and seen.


MHO

Well, you can think as you wish. Nothing is true without proof and there isn't any. Not going to continue this discussion. Been there, done that. IMO

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

That has been on the schedule for some time now.

Guess we'll find out on the 23rd.

JMO

[Justice4all]

That has been on the schedule for some time now.

LOL then why did you say it wasn't on the schedule?:confused:

[Justice4all]

Guess we'll find out on the 23rd.

JMO

I must be stupid but didn't DG just say


There has been nothing from TLC about it and nothing about it on their website or schedule.

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv-schedule...e=20091117.321

[daniel green]

LOL then why did you say it wasn't on the schedule?:confused:

I meant some new item about them speaking on that episode, as per the NYPost piece that got it wrong.

I'd linked to and posted the last few episodes last week and it has not changed.

[Justice4all]

I meant some new item about them speaking on that episode, as per the NYPost piece that got it wrong.

I'd linked to and posted the last few episodes last week and it has not changed.

But this is what was said..........

Originally Posted by Mnchkin426 View Post
Maybe not sharing the couch but it looks like they are both going to be talking.

JMO

and that's exactly what's on the website. They may not be sitting down together like RadarOnline said but they are both going to speak about the future plans......

I can't wait to find out when it was taped.

[Justice4all]

'Jon & Kate' to be replaced by 'Cake Boss'




The network is set to announce that "Cake Boss," now in its second season, will take over for "Jon & Kate" at 9 p.m. Mondays beginning Nov. 30.




http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/jon_kate_to_be_replaced_by_cake_fS9itnfJhR3EOVBmrQ bjON#ixzz0WrPCiVsg


I love Cake Boss so this is Great news........:thumbsup:

[Justice4all]

I wonder why TLC's not talking about what they have planned for Kate and her new show. I'm starting to think they nixed that. Specially after seeing such poor ratings last week.


MHO

[daniel green]

snipped
I can't wait to find out when it was taped.

You cannot possibly believe it was taped in the last few weeks?

[Justice4all]

You cannot possibly believe it was taped in the last few weeks?

I have no clue. Heck for all i know maybe it hasn't even been taped yet.

[Mnchkin426]

'Jon & Kate' to be replaced by 'Cake Boss'









http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/jon_kate_to_be_replaced_by_cake_fS9itnfJhR3EOVBmrQ bjON#ixzz0WrPCiVsg


I love Cake Boss so this is Great news........:thumbsup:

Not that it matters, but I do not like that show at all. So, I won't be watching. Sorry TLC.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Kate Gosselin Gets Witchy on Halloween

"This year, she was able to go trick-or-treating without paparazzi, just like a normal mom," a friend of Kate's tells PEOPLE.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20317604,00.html

You mean to tell me kate took the children trick or treating and not one photo has popped up..........hmmm not buying it . Sorry.

MHO

[daniel green]

I have no clue. Heck for all i know maybe it hasn't even been taped yet.

You think it might be live, then? Something that has been on the website for about 3 weeks or more? :confused:

Where would they have taped it if it was after Jon put up the misspelled sign on his gate telling TLC to stay off his property?

[Justice4all]

You think it might be live, then? Something that has been on the website for about 3 weeks or more? :confused:

Where would they have taped it if it was after Jon put up the misspelled sign on his gate telling TLC to stay off his property?

no ma'am i do not think it will be live. and if it's been on their website for 3 weeks why did you say it wasn't there? :rolleyes:
and i don't know if it was taped at the house or not....Do you?

[Mnchkin426]

You think it might be live, then? Something that has been on the website for about 3 weeks or more? :confused:

Where would they have taped it if it was after Jon put up the misspelled sign on his gate telling TLC to stay off his property?

And how could they tape it recently when Jon has pulled the plug on filming the children? He had to know they were filming the children since he apparently is in scenes with the children. Also, there haven't been any reports that I have seen that he changed his mind about allowing the children to be filmed.



JMO

[Justice4all]

And how could they tape it recently when Jon has pulled the plug on filming the children? He had to know they were filming the children since he apparently is in scenes with the children. Also, there haven't been any reports that I have seen that he changed his mind about allowing the children to be filmed.



JMO

I thought the part with Kate with the children and the part with Jon with the children were taped before all this happen...

but couldn't they do the sit down interview some where else like they did Kate's interview with Natalie Morsales?

[Mnchkin426]

I thought the part with Kate with the children and the part with Jon with the children were taped before all this happen...

but couldn't they do the sit down interview some where else like they did Kate's interview with Natalie Morsales?

Thank you for finally agreeing to the first part.

As far as the interview goes.....Yes, I suppose that could be possible....but IMO it is unlikely due to the hard feelings between Jon and TLC. However, no matter when or where the interview part was filmed, Jon would be paid for the episode anyway since he participated in it with the children...... presumably under the terms of the 2009 contract......before he messed everything up.

JMO

[Justice4all]

]Thank you for finally agreeing to the first part.[/B]

As far as the interview goes.....Yes, I suppose that could be possible....but IMO it is unlikely due to the hard feelings between Jon and TLC. However, no matter when or where the interview part was filmed, Jon would be paid for the episode anyway since he participated in it with the children...... presumably under the terms of the 2009 contract......before he messed everything up.

JMO

Did i ever disagree?:confused:

Yeah and from everything i've read Jon is still under contract till Feb.

I wonder when they will announce Kate's new show. and i'm still confused about what it will be about.

[daniel green]

In town for the wedding of Phialdephia Phillies star Shane Victorino, Jon Gosselin posed with a few "fans" at the Oceans Beach Bar and Grill in Kihei, HI. while Phils slugger Ryan Howard tore it up on the dance floor. As the old saying goes -- it's bad luck to see Jon Gosselin before the wedding.


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/14/jon-gosselin-ryan-howard-shane-victorino-wedding-hawaii-philadelphia-phillies/#ixzz0WsF1RCQG

[Casecase]

Kate Gosselin Gets Witchy on Halloween



http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20317604,00.html

You mean to tell me kate took the children trick or treating and not one photo has popped up..........hmmm not buying it . Sorry.

MHO


No photos of trick-or-treating, only the word of a friend of Kate's . . . must not have happened. No photos of Kate and the bodyguard holding hands or behaving inappropriately, only the word of a gossip shock jock . . . must have happened. :rolleyes:

As far as the Halloween thing goes, it does seem like there would be photos. But maybe this was the perfect Halloween with trick-or-treating, what with the Kate costumes. Buy a few Kate wigs, bring along some other adults and bam - they're incognito.


IMO

[Mnchkin426]

No photos of trick-or-treating, only the word of a friend of Kate's . . . must not have happened. No photos of Kate and the bodyguard holding hands or behaving inappropriately, only the word of a gossip shock jock . . . must have happened. :rolleyes:

As far as the Halloween thing goes, it does seem like there would be photos. But maybe this was the perfect Halloween with trick-or-treating, what with the Kate costumes. Buy a few Kate wigs, bring along some other adults and bam - they're incognito.


IMO
Love that idea! Add to it that they might have gone trick-or-treating somewhere that the paps don't know about. Hope it's really true and that they had a great time.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/14/jon-gosselin-ryan-howard-shane-victorino-wedding-hawaii-philadelphia-phillies/#ixzz0WsF1RCQG

For the life of me i can't figure out why women are so attracted to him.

[Justice4all]

Love that idea! Add to it that they might have gone trick-or-treating somewhere that the paps don't know about. Hope it's really true and that they had a great time.

JMO

Same here but some how i doubt it because Jon would have blabbed about it. MHO

[Mnchkin426]

Same here but some how i doubt it because Jon would have blabbed about it. MHO


Why would he blab? Maybe he didn't know or was upset that she had the children for Halloween and didn't want to mention it.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Why would he blab? Maybe he didn't know or was upset that she had the children for Halloween and didn't want to mention it.

JMO

Jon IMO is very childish.
So does that mean Jon gets the children next Halloween? Not sure how Kate will handle that.

[Casecase]

Why would he blab? Maybe he didn't know or was upset that she had the children for Halloween and didn't want to mention it.

JMO


I don't know, if he was that upset about not having them for Halloween I have a feeling he would have found a way to be there (we all remember what happened with the twins' birthday). I remember an article about him being in NY with Hailey on Halloween. Maybe Halloween isn't up there with Christmas and birthdays as being one of the "big" days.


IMO

[Humdinger]

'Jon & Kate' to be replaced by 'Cake Boss'









http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/jon_kate_to_be_replaced_by_cake_fS9itnfJhR3EOVBmrQ bjON#ixzz0WrPCiVsg


I love Cake Boss so this is Great news........:thumbsup:

:thumbsup: That's some great news!

One program gone sour being replaced by something sweet - CAKE!

[daniel green]

There were some reports out there that the couple would actually be doing the final interview together, but Access is claiming that they are indeed speaking separately. As a matter of fact, Jon's recorded interview for the episode was apparently recorded several weeks ago before TLC filed a lawsuit against him for breach of contract.

http://www.examiner.com/x-11363-Dallas-TV-Examiner~y2009m11d14-Jon-and-Kate-Plus-8-Jon-and-Kate-Gosselin-return-to-debate

[Justice4all]

.

http://www.examiner.com/x-11363-Dallas-TV-Examiner~y2009m11d14-Jon-and-Kate-Plus-8-Jon-and-Kate-Gosselin-return-to-debate

So you believe the examiner about this story but not about Kate throwing Jon's stuff?


Former "Jon and Kate Plus 8" star Jon Gosselin was reportedly thrown out of his own house over the weekend. Jon told "The Insider" during Tuesday night's episode that at about 11:00 p.m. Kate showed up and apparently started to "throw [his] luggage at the door." Among the contents were Jon's clothing and his laptop.
http://www.examiner.com/x-11363-Dallas-TV-Examiner~y2009m11d10-Jon-and-Kate-Plus-8-Jon-Gosselin-has-breakdown-with-Kate-at-home

[Justice4all]

Heres the video everyone..............


Kate took the laptop and THREW it by the door.


http://www.youtube.com/user/hate4kate#p/u/2/Qgm-Aegui_c


Good to hear they are in therapy...


(( i feel vindicated finally after finding this video ))

[Mnchkin426]

:thumbsup: That's some great news!

One program gone sour being replaced by something sweet - CAKE!

The only thing sweet about this show is the cake. IMO, there is nothing sweet about the cake boss character! Give me "Ace of Cakes" any time.

JMO

[Casecase]

The only thing sweet about this show is the cake. IMO, there is nothing sweet about the cake boss character! Give me "Ace of Cakes" any time.

JMO

Yep, me too!! :thumbsup:


IMO

[birdwatch]

Heres the video everyone..............


Kate took the laptop and THREW it by the door.


http://www.youtube.com/user/hate4kate#p/u/2/Qgm-Aegui_c


Good to hear they are in therapy...


(( i feel vindicated finally after finding this video )) Despite the fact that I am not intereted in anything Jon has to say - didn't he look better; more rested and less crazy-looking in those clips?

[Justice4all]

Despite the fact that I am not intereted in anything Jon has to say - didn't he look better; more rested and less crazy-looking in those clips?

Hopefully he's decided to grow up some and put his children first.

[daniel green]

Heres the video everyone..............


Kate took the laptop and THREW it by the door.


http://www.youtube.com/user/hate4kate#p/u/2/Qgm-Aegui_c


Good to hear they are in therapy...


(( i feel vindicated finally after finding this video ))

WHO is in therapy? I think anyone who calls itself "hate4kate" and posts vids on youtube is really over-involved. :scared:

[daniel green]

Both Jon and Kate Gosselin were invited to the wedding of Philadelphia Phillies superstar Shane Victorino and Melissa Smith. But that was in April, before Kate filed for divorce. Jon and Shane, whose nickname is the Flyin' Hawaiian, are known to be good friends. The outfielder and Smith live in Las Vegas (another of Gosselin's favorite cities) and have a daughter Kali, 2. Jon was his usual very-casual self while in Hawaii, rarely venturing out of his flip flops and shorts. He flew to Hawaii Friday, the same day lawyers for TLC decided to add Stephanie Santoro to their list of witnesses being deposed in their lawsuit against the former Jon & Kate Plus 8 star.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/new-photos-jon-gosselin-hawaii-phillies-players-wedding

[Justice4all]

The only thing sweet about this show is the cake. IMO, there is nothing sweet about the cake boss character! Give me "Ace of Cakes" any time.

JMO

I love Cake Boss..but then again i come from a big Italian family with lots of brothers and sisters and a mother that "thinks" she's in control of everyone.

But i also love Duff and his whole staff at Ace of Cakes

[Justice4all]

WHO is in therapy? I think anyone who calls itself "hate4kate" and posts vids on youtube is really over-involved. :scared:

Did you even watch the video? and i don't care who posted the video i'm just glad the video was posted to prove what i said. Do you think you can take the time to tell me you were wrong and you're sorry?

[Justice4all]

WHO is in therapy? I think anyone who calls itself "hate4kate" and posts vids on youtube is really over-involved. :scared:

Did you even read what the lady said in her profile?

Formerly known as nohate4kate, the account disappeared 9/14/09 with 1,208 subscribers and 82,140 channel views. I wanted a similar name that people would recognize, so I went with this to be ironic even though the logo on the videos is the old nohate4kate.

[birdwatch]

WHO is in therapy? I think anyone who calls itself "hate4kate" and posts vids on youtube is really over-involved. :scared: What now? Enough already! We get where y'all stand. Could you take the constant fighting to PMs and give the rest of us a break?

[daniel green]

Did you even watch the video? snipped

I could not get the sound to work for the video.

[Justice4all]

I could not get the sound to work for the video.

well that's strange. Sorry to hear that. but it doesn't matter.

[irishkel]

Heres the video everyone..............


Kate took the laptop and THREW it by the door.


http://www.youtube.com/user/hate4kate#p/u/2/Qgm-Aegui_c


Good to hear they are in therapy...


(( i feel vindicated finally after finding this video ))

I have an question, where on this video does it prove Kate THREW the laptop by the door? Watched it several times, quick vid of Kate standing with arms crossed, but not her throwing anything. I'm sorry, but I don't take Jon saying it to be proof. If you can point out the part on the video of proof, I'll be happy to watch again.

[Justice4all]

I have an question, where on this video does it prove Kate THREW the laptop by the door? Watched it several times, quick vid of Kate standing with arms crossed, but not her throwing anything. I'm sorry, but I don't take Jon saying it to be proof. If you can point out the part on the video of proof, I'll be happy to watch again.

I'm not trying to prove Kate did anything, because honestly i don't believe much of what Jon or Kate has to say....but i'm trying to prove he said it.


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He said he was sleeping with one of the girls, can't remember which one, and Kate got home and she was moving his stuff TOWARD the door and he said HE could move his stuff toward the door.

No fight, no throwing stuff out, none of that.


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that's not what he said on the Insider. that's all i'm trying to prove.

[irishkel]

I'm not trying to prove Kate did anything, because honestly i don't believe much of what Jon or Kate has to say....but i'm trying to prove he said it.


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that's not what he said on the Insider. that's all i'm trying to prove.

I was simply asking a question, thanks for answering. JMO but Jon is in the "Poor Me" syndrome and nothing is his fault.

[daniel green]

What now? Enough already! We get where y'all stand. snipped

Well, goodness me. :blink:

The whole point to a mssg board is to discuss/argue a point/debate.
Nothing in either Justice's or my posts were "fighting" or of any personal nature that would have required taking it to PM.

It was on topic, it was about the people about this thread, it was not disrespectful. In fact, almost by definition, the kind of way discussion goes on in every forum at IS.

So I am a bit perplexed. I would not presume to speak for anyone else, let alone for "us" on the board, either.

[Justice4all]

I was simply asking a question, thanks for answering. JMO but Jon is in the "Poor Me" syndrome and nothing is his fault.

Oh his poor pitiful me bull is not working anymore with me.
I honestly have no idea what happen that night, I was just trying to make sure the truth was told about what he said.

He really needs to grow up and think about what he does and says because youtube will be his childrens best friends in the next 10yrs.


MHO

[irishkel]

Oh his poor pitiful me bull is not working anymore with me.
I honestly have no idea what happen that night, I was just trying to make sure the truth was told about what he said.

He really needs to grow up and think about what he does and says because youtube will be his childrens best friends in the next 10yrs.


MHO

Let me clarify, HE thinks nothing is his fault, not me! JMO. ITA with you,his decisions coming back to haunt him.

[daniel green]

I'm not trying to prove Kate did anything, because honestly i don't believe much of what Jon or Kate has to say....but i'm trying to prove he said it.


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He said he was sleeping with one of the girls, can't remember which one, and Kate got home and she was moving his stuff TOWARD the door and he said HE could move his stuff toward the door.

No fight, no throwing stuff out, none of that.


JMO


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that's not what he said on the Insider. that's all i'm trying to prove.

Figured out why I couldn't hear the vid. :blush: I had the sound turned off on youtube. :blushing: I had never even noticed those icons under the screen there. I don't do a lot of youtube.

at 4:47 in the video:

Lara: I understand you had a very rough weekend at home.

Jon: She came home and it was 11pm and I was sleeping in Alexa's bed and she was saying "get up, get up, and you left the lights on" and this and that, but for her to to come home and take all my stuff and gather it at the door when I'm gonna walk through the house anyway to make sure I have it, I live there too, I pay the mortgage. You don't see me throwing her stuff out.

Star: Did she actually take your luggage and throw it outside?

Jon: She took my laptop and like threw it out by the door. She constantly stood there tapping her foot when are you gonna leave, when are you gonna leave?

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What I have found watching these few episodes of the Insider is that it is a horrible, horrible show which makes up claims in the form of questions. For instance, Lara asks Jon, "in front of the kids?" about this totally exagerated non-incident of Kate gathering Jon's stuff. Of course, it was 11 o clock at night, so no kids.

[Justice4all]

Figured out why I couldn't hear the vid. :blush: I had the sound turned off on youtube. :blushing: I had never even noticed those icons under the screen there. I don't do a lot of youtube.

at 4:47 in the video:

Lara: I understand you had a very rough weekend at home.

Jon: She came home and it was 11pm and I was sleeping in Alexa's bed and she was saying "get up, get up, and you left the lights on" and this and that, but for her to to come home and take all my stuff and gather it at the door when I'm gonna walk through the house anyway to make sure I have it, I live there too, I pay the mortgage. You don't see me throwing her stuff out.

Star: Did she actually take your luggage and throw it outside?

Jon: She took my laptop and like threw it out by the door. She constantly stood there tapping her foot when are you gonna leave, when are you gonna leave?

=============

What I have found watching these few episodes of the Insider is that it is a horrible, horrible show which makes up claims in the form of questions. For instance, Lara asks Jon, "in front of the kids?" about this totally exagerated non-incident of Kate gathering Jon's stuff. Of course, it was 11 o clock at night, so no kids.

Sounds to me ( if it's true ) there was some kind of fight and kate yelled at him and threw his stuff to the door.

and to say no kids well that's not true. If he was in bed with Alexis i'm sure she heard her mother yelling ( if it's true ).

[Justice4all]

Let me clarify, HE thinks nothing is his fault, not me! JMO. ITA with you,his decisions coming back to haunt him.

ohhhhhhh ITA. IMO he needs to man up and face reality and grow up and start worrying about those 8 babies. He'll have time to play the fields when they are grown.

MHO

[daniel green]

snipped If he was in bed with Alexis i'm sure she heard her mother yelling ( if it's true ).

He did not say he was in bed with her.

[Palm Palm]

Figured out why I couldn't hear the vid. :blush: I had the sound turned off on youtube. :blushing: I had never even noticed those icons under the screen there. I don't do a lot of youtube.

at 4:47 in the video:

Lara: I understand you had a very rough weekend at home.

Jon: She came home and it was 11pm and I was sleeping in Alexa's bed and she was saying "get up, get up, and you left the lights on" and this and that, but for her to to come home and take all my stuff and gather it at the door when I'm gonna walk through the house anyway to make sure I have it, I live there too, I pay the mortgage. You don't see me throwing her stuff out.

Star: Did she actually take your luggage and throw it outside?

Jon: She took my laptop and like threw it out by the door. She constantly stood there tapping her foot when are you gonna leave, when are you gonna leave?

=============

What I have found watching these few episodes of the Insider is that it is a horrible, horrible show which makes up claims in the form of questions. For instance, Lara asks Jon, "in front of the kids?" about this totally exagerated non-incident of Kate gathering Jon's stuff. Of course, it was 11 o clock at night, so no kids.

Sorry to jump in here Daniel, but is it not also true that according to TLC court papers, Jon is getting paid to say these things. I also thought he said he was going to quit bad mouthing Kate. Seems like he will say anything and even go back on his word if the price is right.

That guy has told so many untruths that I don't beleive a word he says in just normal conversation. When he gets paid for it, I just have to take it with an even bigger box of salt.

What I found most interesting were his comments about the ATV and no helmets. That is just wrong. I have see him do it with that tractor also. I hope Kate can stop him before it is too late. He bought his daughter an ATV for her birthday but what no helmet? I noticed he also bought the other one a laptop. Oh great, I am thinking, now she can Google his name. Does he never think?

IMO!

[Palm Palm]

Sounds to me ( if it's true ) there was some kind of fight and kate yelled at him and threw his stuff to the door.

and to say no kids well that's not true. If he was in bed with Alexis i'm sure she heard her mother yelling ( if it's true ).


No no. He was just sleeping in her bed without her in it.

[Palm Palm]

He said he was sleeping in her bed, not WITH Alexis. Comprehension is key.

He also said Kate threw his stuff outside by the door. He didn't say anything broke, so if she threw it, it wasn't far or forceful enough to cause damage.

But now, TV is Jon's career. He'll be independently wealthy in no time. :thumbup: :rolleyes:

I know!
He is just going to keep riding her coat tails with his trash talk for pay until a judge or someone shuts him up. Who will he gossip about then? I sure would not want him around. Dang, hope it does not happen, but I just keep thinking of his pal M Lohan taping private conversations about LL and selling them. Hope Jon does not start on that kick.

IMO

[daniel green]

Sorry to jump in here Daniel, but is it not also true that according to TLC court papers, Jon is getting paid to say these things. I also thought he said he was going to quit bad mouthing Kate. Seems like he will say anything and even go back on his word if the price is right.

snipped

Well, "his word" doesn't mean much given how he has been apologizing and atoning since before they were separated and he was out with the teacher and hanging out in the bars and with the college girls.

But, yes, he is being paid to be on The Insider and ET. Just like Levi Johnson. :blush:

[daniel green]

snipped

What I found most interesting were his comments about the ATV and no helmets. That is just wrong. I have see him do it with that tractor also.!

And then adding that they don't wear bike helmets, either. :sad:

Of course, he had to tack on that ridiculous comment that he is a responsible father.

[Mnchkin426]

Responsible father. We all know how funny that would be if only 8 little lives weren't involved. When he said that, it just gave me the willies.

It's been a long time since I've wanted to seriously slap someone into next week, but he's brought me to that point. Man, wouldn't it be nice if he were as smart as he thinks he is? As it is, he's probably the dumbest rock this side of the Pecos.

I wonder if the Arbitrator or the Judge are aware of some of Jon's antics? If so, or if they are made aware, perhaps they might be able to scare some common sense into his head. Would be so much better (mainly for his children) if Jon would listen to some reasonable, responsible adults rather than those who have his ear at the moment.

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

Well, his little "crisis" is getting old. It's time for him to grow the heck up and take some responsibility for his behavior. Good luck on that idea, huh?

I still think he's bi-polar, but wonder if he's not doing some heavy "recreational" drug consumption. He's so looney tunes for the most part. Like he's in a fog or something...

You could be right. He certainly isn't acting as if his children are a top priority right now. Wish he would settle down and be a Dad who puts his children before anything else.

JMO

[birdwatch]

But we should be criticizing both of them for that, shouldn't we? Haven't we seen photos of her sitting in her garage while the kids ride bikes without helmets. And she allowed them to ride with Jon - before the split - without helmets? Slap me if I'm wrong - but Kate hasn't demanded that they wear helmets, has she?

[daniel green]

Oh my gosh, just the kind of pictures one wants when in the middle of a divorce. Or that you want your kids to see. :w00t:

He even is sporting an allyoucandrink bracelet. :ohmy:


Jon Gosselin celebrated Shane Victorino's wedding Saturday night -- or maybe he was just celebrating life -- at Lulu's Lahaina Surf Club & Grill in Hawaii.

L'Chaim!


Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/16/jon-gosselin-hawaii-photo/#ixzz0X3BsAgSO

[daniel green]

Viewers of Jon & Kate Plus 8 will see the spillover of the couple’s acrimonious public divorce war on Monday night’s show.There’s no more holding back as the show heads toward next week’s finale.And score this round of fighting as a victory for Kate who delivers a funny and stinging jab to Jon. Discussing how the family’s dogs used to run off the property Kate credits Jon with the invisible fence idea and says, “If they wore their little collars their boundaries were set and they stayed home.” Yes, you can see it coming. Then she adds: “Maybe we should have used a collar for other people!”

Watch the clip above to see what else Kate has to say.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-kate-strikes-back-says-she-should-have-put-collar-jon

[daniel green]

You’ll see a different side of Jon Gosselin on Monday night’s episode of Jon & Kate Plus 8, and it’s not going to get him nominated for Father of the Year. In this preview clip Jon is shown ignoring his kids, while texting, talking on the phone and doing what has come to be known as “working the fence.” Monday night’s show definitely puts the reality in reality TV as Kate comments on Jon’s lack of interaction with the kids, and makes it clear it’s not a one-time thing. After one clip of Jon blatantly ignoring one of his daughters, Kate says about her soon-to-be-ex: “He is on the phone a lot. I will come home and I’ll say, ‘Did daddy play with you?” The kids answer her, “no.’ and when she asks them what was Jon doing they respond: “He was on the phone.” Kate explains that she strongly believes Jon’s calls are personal and she limits her calls around the kids to work only. Jon is also show “working the fence” which is when he goes over to talk to photographers and visitors at the fence on his property, often conducting impromptu sessions with the media.

Monday night’s show is the next to last of Jon & Kate Plus 8, but still breaks new ground in its depiction of Jon.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-jon-gosselin-shown-ignoring-his-kids-monday%E2%80%99s-jon-kate-plus-8

[Mnchkin426]

But we should be criticizing both of them for that, shouldn't we? Haven't we seen photos of her sitting in her garage while the kids ride bikes without helmets. And she allowed them to ride with Jon - before the split - without helmets? Slap me if I'm wrong - but Kate hasn't demanded that they wear helmets, has she?

There were films of the children wearing helmets when they were first riding bikes.....at the old house.

Yes, Kate seems to have allowed no helmets when riding on the driveway at the new house....at least in the past. However, Jon and the ATV and tractor riding seem to have started after the split. IMO, no helmets in those situations are more dangerous than bike riding on a driveway. Although, I would prefer to see helmets worn in all situations.

I have no idea if Kate has "demanded" helmets? Even if she has, wouldn't it be hard to enforce when Jon has custody? Has anyone ever asked her what she thinks about helmets? Jon was asked and insisted that there was nothing wrong with riding on any of those vehicles without helmets. IMO, he actually was quite defensive about it, in spite of popular opinon disagreeing with him.

JMO

[Justice4all]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-kate-strikes-back-says-she-should-have-put-collar-jon

She really should be ashamed of herself.

[Justice4all]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-jon-gosselin-shown-ignoring-his-kids-monday%E2%80%99s-jon-kate-plus-8

Did you really think TLC was going to show Jon in a good light? LMBO

[daniel green]

Kate Gosselin did some chores after saying goodbye to some guests, including brawny bodyguard Steve Neild and his family, on Sunday at her home in Wernersville, Pennsylvania. After the house guests left, the svelte, skirt-clad mama-of-eight dragged a huge blue trash can to the curb, with the help of her kids.

Her husband Jon, in the meantime, was partying in the Hawaiian islands, where he attended the wedding of Philadelphia Phillies speedster Shane Victorino.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/kate-gosselin-takes-out-trash-literally

[Justice4all]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/kate-gosselin-takes-out-trash-literally

awwwwww poor Kate had to take her trash out...........:rolleyes:

[Palm Palm]

There were films of the children wearing helmets when they were first riding bikes.....at the old house.

Yes, Kate seems to have allowed no helmets when riding on the driveway at the new house....at least in the past. However, Jon and the ATV and tractor riding seem to have started after the split. IMO, no helmets in those situations are more dangerous than bike riding on a driveway. Although, I would prefer to see helmets worn in all situations.

I have no idea if Kate has "demanded" helmets? Even if she has, wouldn't it be hard to enforce when Jon has custody? Has anyone ever asked her what she thinks about helmets? Jon was asked and insisted that there was nothing wrong with riding on any of those vehicles without helmets. IMO, he actually was quite defensive about it, in spite of popular opinon disagreeing with him.



ITA. Jon was warned on the Insider. He can't act like he does not know the dangers. We will see what he does with that information. That will be the true test. He always has all these excuses for everything. He makes himself look so bad.

IMO

[Palm Palm]

Did you really think TLC was going to show Jon in a good light? LMBO

I do not think anyone could put Jon in a good light right now. The guy has pretty much done himself in. If anything when he was with TLC and Kate he looked a heck of a lot better. He can't blame either TLC or Kate now.

[Mnchkin426]

I do not think anyone could put Jon in a good light right now. The guy has pretty much done himself in. If anything when he was with TLC and Kate he looked a heck of a lot better. He can't blame either TLC or Kate now.

I'm afraid you are right. Very sad what Jon has done to himself.

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

She really should be ashamed of herself.

Well, IMO she does have a point. Maybe if Jon had been ashamed of himself and actually meant his apologies, things might have been different.

JMO

[Palm Palm]

Well, IMO she does have a point. Maybe if Jon had been ashamed of himself and actually meant his apologies, things might have been different.

JMO

That is what gets me, has he no shame? He is trying to keep himself in the spotlight at any cost. Kate is just moving forward and doing the right things. She is getting her own show, spending time with the kids and really carving out a life for herself and her kids. Jon just the oppisite.

I hope she does get to do the voice in a cartoon. Those kids would love that. I could just see them all on the red carpet. Wouldn't that be so cute?? :biggrin:

[Palm Palm]

Well, his little "crisis" is getting old. It's time for him to grow the heck up and take some responsibility for his behavior. Good luck on that idea, huh?

I still think he's bi-polar, but wonder if he's not doing some heavy "recreational" drug consumption. He's so looney tunes for the most part. Like he's in a fog or something...

I am wondering the same about drugs/booze. That would make the most sense to me. I would think he would get help for those 8 children.

I wish a judge would order drug testing, a gag order and certain safety guidelines for issues like the ATV/Tractor riding with no helmet.

I remember on the twins birthday when he did that whole thing with ET, for pay, and he said he was having the ATV gift sent to a relative so Kate couldn't refuse it. That tells me that Kate has probably been having issues with Jon and the way he putting those kids in danger. We certainly see now what she has been up against. I still can't beleive what we saw on the Insider. Excuses, excuses, excuses.......

IMO

[Justice4all]

I do not think anyone could put Jon in a good light right now. The guy has pretty much done himself in. If anything when he was with TLC and Kate he looked a heck of a lot better. He can't blame either TLC or Kate now.

I don't blame TLC but as far as Kate well i think she would fair better with her children if she just kept her mouth shut and let Jon act a fool. They both should be ashamed IMO

[Justice4all]

EXCLUSIVE NEW COURT PAPERS: Lawyers Demand TLC Make Jon Gosselin's Contract Public

Jon Gosselin's lawyers are demanding that a court not allow TLC to seal the reality star's contract in their legal battle, according to new court papers obtained exclusively by RadarOnline.com.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-new-court-papers-lawyers-demand-tlc-make-jon-gosselins-contract-public


I would love to know what TLC's hiding.

[Justice4all]

EXCLUSIVE NEW COURT PAPERS: Lawyers Demand TLC Make Jon Gosselin's Contract Public




http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-new-court-papers-lawyers-demand-tlc-make-jon-gosselins-contract-public


I would love to know what TLC's hiding.

ohhhhhhhhhh now i see what they are trying to hide.

In the new court papers, Jon's lawyers also claim TLC has been questioned by Pennsylvania officials about work permits. Jon's lawyers write: Plaintiff's request to seal the documents demonstrates its desire to covet its overreaching and unconscionable terms from Public scrutiny and to shield it from discovery and analysis by third parties, such as the Pennsylvania Department of Labor and Industry which is investigating the Plaintiff's failure to acquire Work Permits for the Gosselin children and the Local Municipality which has been inquiring into Plaintiff's "location/film permit" requirements where the show was filmed."

[daniel green]

That is what gets me, has he no shame? He is trying to keep himself in the spotlight at any cost. Kate is just moving forward and doing the right things. She is getting her own show, spending time with the kids and really carving out a life for herself and her kids. Jon just the oppisite.

I hope she does get to do the voice in a cartoon. Those kids would love that. I could just see them all on the red carpet. Wouldn't that be so cute?? :biggrin:

Oh, wouldn't that be just the cutest thing in the world! :wub:

As to has he no shame--it would appear, from his behavior, that he doesn't. Horrible for the children. He seems to be repeating Britney Spears' downspiral.

[Justice4all]

He did not say he was in bed with her.

He didn't say he wasn't either now did he?

[daniel green]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-new-court-papers-lawyers-demand-tlc-make-jon-gosselins-contract-public


snipped.

Oh good grief. The pleading actually reads:

"The Plaintiff's contract herein will no doubt become a "learning tool" used in "Contract 101" Law School classes as an example of what not to do when drafting an agreement that you want to be enforceable."

:blushing:

[daniel green]

Anyone asking for marriage advice from Jon Gosselin must be crazier than Kate's hairstylist, but yesterday at the airport in Hawaii , a photog did just that.


Our advice: Listen to what he has to say ... and just do the opposite

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/16/jon-gosselin-marriage-kate-hawaii-shane-victorino-video/#ixzz0X3xONmTX

[daniel green]

Dude, shut up. Nobody owes you another show, another shot, another anything. "Damaging your reputation and career?" WHAT career? Before the show, Gosselin was an IT analyst. And even though unemployment is at 10.2%, I'm sure, if you put your limited mind to it, you could hit monster.com and drum up a gig at Cisco Systems. Or figuring out why the Wifi doesn't work at Corner Bakery.

TV doesn't owe you a job. TV gave you a job. Then, TV decided it didn't want you anymore. You can go now. You can disappear into the corn, never to be seen again, like 99% of the people of Survivor or American Idol. We barely remember the winners, why would we waste valuable brain space on the losers? Nobody owes you fame... And nobody is stopping you from doing what you did before you were on TV. It didn't pay as much, and it didn't get you dates despite your penchant for Ed Hardy [...]wear, but that's not the point. You can find another job, anywhere else you want. Just not a day care center, or as a relationship counselor, okay? Because I'm sure the performance reviews on both were pretty damn negative.To obscurity with you.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-marmel/jon-gosselin-can-go-back_b_358332.html

[daniel green]

You’d think that a guy who thrives on attention would seek a bit less of it when he’s doing something unsafe. Especially when it also endangers his children. But no. Jon Gosselin, star of TV’s former reality show "Jon and Kate Plus Eight," didn’t seem the least bit concerned about putting one of his five-year-olds on an ATV. The fact that 20 percent of those killed by ATVs and 30 percent of those injured are kids must have escaped him. Gosselin risked having his son become one of the 40,000 kids who are sent to emergency rooms each year in accidents related to ATVs. Plus, neither the elder nor the younger Gosselin was wearing essential safety gear—a helmet.

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/safety/2009/11/jon-gosselin-and-son-atv-safety-helmets.html

[daniel green]

While her soon to be ex husband Jon soaked up the sun in Hawaii, Kate Gosselin got a head start on the holidays Monday, with a little early Christmas shopping. The single mom of 8 looked to be in a somber mood as she shopped the aisles at Toys R Us, Old Navy and Bed Bath and Beyond in Reading Pennsylvania. Kate has expressed her nerves about spending her first Christmas as a single mom, but it seems that she's doing all she can to make sure her beloved kids have the most enjoyable Christmas possible, with or without their dad.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/kate-gosselin-early-christmas-shopping

[Palm Palm]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/kate-gosselin-early-christmas-shopping


Oh, I just love Kate and those adorable kids. Wish we could peek in on their Christmas. I wanna know what they are getting. As long as the finances are there, it must be really a lot fun to shop for them and their little personalities. I bet she does the wrappings so special. Really glad one parent has it together.

[Justice4all]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/kate-gosselin-early-christmas-shopping

Does Kate have a contract with RadarOnline like Nadya Suleman had?

[Palm Palm]

Yeah, Mikie might have some pretty sensational tapes of Jon, too. Boy, what a lucrative life these boys lead. Too bad they didn't stay friends. They deserve each other. Oh well. Jon has Levi who thinks he's a nice guy. For now, anyway. :lol:

Love the pix of Jon when he's all wasted. What pride he must take in those. Wonder if he has them framed and sent to his children. :rolleyes:

Oh I never thought of that. How did he get hooked up with MH to begin with? Bad move Jon!

Yes, Jon does appear he has had a few too many. I really think there might be more of that going on behind closed doors. IMO

[Palm Palm]

http://blogs.consumerreports.org/safety/2009/11/jon-gosselin-and-son-atv-safety-helmets.html


Oh ITA! He is putting them in danger for no good reason. He has been warned. There is just no excuse for it. I pray that he will stop before it is too late. VERY SAD JON! :sad:

[Mnchkin426]

Since he was at the airport, I'm guessing that Jon headed back to the mainland today. Once he reaches the East Coast, who do you think he will go see first....the children or Hailey? Since he and Hailey are supposedly on hiatus, it would seem that he would go see the children first. For some reason, I'm skeptical.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Since he was at the airport, I'm guessing that Jon headed back to the mainland today. Once he reaches the East Coast, who do you think he will go see first....the children or Hailey? Since he and Hailey are supposedly on hiatus, it would seem that he would go see the children first. For some reason, I'm skeptical.

JMO

I suspect the children since Kate has been so busy shopping ...I bet she's exhausted. Oh yeah and she took the trash out. Let's not forget about that.

[Justice4all]

Oh ITA! He is putting them in danger for no good reason. He has been warned. There is just no excuse for it. I pray that he will stop before it is too late. VERY SAD JON! :sad:

well wasn't Kate warned about children wearing helmets while they ride bikes or motorized cars that go 5 mph?

Do you think Jon just started letting the children ride on the ATV and tractor with no helmet since him and Kate split up?

If Kate really thought the children were in danger wouldn't she to court and talk to a Judge about this?

[Palm Palm]

Oh, wouldn't that be just the cutest thing in the world! :wub:

As to has he no shame--it would appear, from his behavior, that he doesn't. Horrible for the children. He seems to be repeating Britney Spears' downspiral.

There are very few people on tv that I feel this way about, and it may sound funny but I really do find myself asking myself: What would Kate do in this situation? I do that about Oprah also, lol.

Kate is a star and leads by good examples. She has to be the most famous, most loved mother in America. She is the type who everyday tries to do something special to put a smile on those kids faces. I try to do the same with my brood.

Yes, I can just imagine her with her little dolls walking the red carpet. I can just picture the lil girls in fancy dresses and the boys in their formal clothes. She always takes such pride in their grooming and clothes. That is a lot of work with 1 kid. I can only imagine for 8!! You can tell by how well behaved they are that she really has her priorities straight.

IMO!

[Mnchkin426]

I suspect the children since Kate has been so busy shopping ...I bet she's exhausted. Oh yeah and she took the trash out. Let's not forget about that.

Matching snarkiness....... my guess is Hailey since Jon may be too hungover to drive all the way to Pennsylvania.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Matching snarkiness....... my guess is Hailey since Jon may be too hungover to drive all the way to Pennsylvania.

JMO

Does Hailey live in NYC?
Jon really should be ashamed of himself. IMO Jon nor Kate have an ounce of class.

[Palm Palm]

I suspect the children since Kate has been so busy shopping ...I bet she's exhausted. Oh yeah and she took the trash out. Let's not forget about that.

She sure does have a ton of energy, doesn't she. I do not know how she does it. Must be the love of those kids is what drives her to better herself and the kids lives. I guess I missed the trash part, what do you mean by that?

[Justice4all]

There are very few people on tv that I feel this way about, and it may sound funny but I really do find myself asking myself: What would Kate do in this situation? I do that about Oprah also, lol.

Kate is a star and leads by good examples. She has to be the most famous, most loved mother in America. She is the type who everyday tries to do something special to put a smile on those kids faces. I try to do the same with my brood.

Yes, I can just imagine her with her little dolls walking the red carpet. I can just picture the lil girls in fancy dresses and the boys in their formal clothes. She always takes such pride in their grooming and clothes. That is a lot of work with 1 kid. I can only imagine for 8!! You can tell by how well behaved they are that she really has her priorities straight.

IMO!
This post cracks me up LMBO

I have no seen kate do one thing with her children since TLC packed up and left. ( other then taking them to and from school and yelling at them )


I used to adore the old Jon and Kate from the first season...What happen to them? Where did they go?



MHO

[Justice4all]

She sure does have a ton of energy, doesn't she. I do not know how she does it. Must be the love of those kids is what drives her to better herself and the kids lives. I guess I missed the trash part, what do you mean by that?

Someone posted a link talking about single mom kate gosselin having to take her heavy trash can to the curb while Jon's in Hawaii........:rolleyes: that's just insane. My husband was in the USMC for almost 23 years and i took the trash out every wed and sat for those 23 years. No one gave me a pity party LOL

[Palm Palm]

well wasn't Kate warned about children wearing helmets while they ride bikes or motorized cars that go 5 mph?

Do you think Jon just started letting the children ride on the ATV and tractor with no helmet since him and Kate split up?

If Kate really thought the children were in danger wouldn't she to court and talk to a Judge about this?

He was warned on the Insider. Now he can't play dumb about it, it's all on tape. I would imagine behind the scenes people including Kate have been warning him to stop, but now there is proof that can be used in court. Lets hope he stops. We never used helmets for in the drive way or those little cars. Now if it were in the street, that would be a different story. I think even with helmets those ATV and tractor are just way too dangerous for any kids. Add to that how many kids are running about and gosh that just worries me sick. He is in the wrong and his excuses just make him look like a idiot.

[Mnchkin426]

Someone posted a link talking about single mom kate gosselin having to take her heavy trash can to the curb while Jon's in Hawaii........:rolleyes: that's just insane. My husband was in the USMC for almost 23 years and i took the trash out every wed and sat for those 23 years. No one gave me a pity party LOL

The article wasn't a pity party, as you like to call every story about Kate, it was about Kate doing something with some of her children. She just happened to be taking a large trash container down the driveway to the street.

JMO

[Palm Palm]

Someone posted a link talking about single mom kate gosselin having to take her heavy trash can to the curb while Jon's in Hawaii........:rolleyes: that's just insane. My husband was in the USMC for almost 23 years and i took the trash out every wed and sat for those 23 years. No one gave me a pity party LOL

Justic4all, I doubt she took out the trash for anyones pity. Makes no sense, sorry J, it just looks to me she took it out because it needed to be done.

[Palm Palm]

The article wasn't a pity party, as you like to call every story about Kate, it was about Kate doing something with some of her children. She just happened to be taking a large trash container down the driveway to the street.

JMO Oh I agree. Kate has never in a million years struck me as someone who would ever want anyone to pity her. She is a roll up her sleeves and just get it done type of gal. That is what makes Kate, Kate.

[Casecase]

well wasn't Kate warned about children wearing helmets while they ride bikes or motorized cars that go 5 mph?

Do you think Jon just started letting the children ride on the ATV and tractor with no helmet since him and Kate split up?

If Kate really thought the children were in danger wouldn't she to court and talk to a Judge about this?

I don't think the judge is going to order one or both sides to make their children wear helmets. Sure, it's common sense and a really great idea . . . but if it's not against the law, I don't really see a judge ordering this.


IMO

[Mnchkin426]

I don't think the judge is going to order one or both sides to make their children wear helmets. Sure, it's common sense and a really great idea . . . but if it's not against the law, I don't really see a judge ordering this.


IMO

Unfortunately, the crux of the problem is that the law does not extend to private property and common sense cannot be legislated.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Justic4all, I doubt she took out the trash for anyones pity. Makes no sense, sorry J, it just looks to me she took it out because it needed to be done.

where did i say Kate did it for the pity?
I don't think she did. I think she's a strong woman that does things like that on her own....
Did you read the article though?

[Palm Palm]

I don't think the judge is going to order one or both sides to make their children wear helmets. Sure, it's common sense and a really great idea . . . but if it's not against the law, I don't really see a judge ordering this.


IMO

Yes C it sure would be good if the judge could do so. I do not know how those things work but I do remember when Christy Brinkley (hope I got that name right) was divorcing and one thing she asked for was that when traveling with their father and the country was on high alert that they fly on private planes. IIRC her request was granted. So maybe there is hope to stop Jon. I sure hope he stops. JON PLEASE THINK ABOUT YOUR KIDS SAFETY!

[Justice4all]

The article wasn't a pity party, as you like to call every story about Kate, it was about Kate doing something with some of her children. She just happened to be taking a large trash container down the driveway to the street.

JMO

LOL...this is a pity party for Kate IMO. I never said Kate wanted a pity party though


Kate Gosselin did some chores after saying goodbye to some guests, including brawny bodyguard Steve Neild and his family, on Sunday at her home in Wernersville, Pennsylvania. After the house guests left, the svelte, skirt-clad mama-of-eight dragged a huge blue trash can to the curb, with the help of her kids.

Her husband Jon, in the meantime, was partying in the Hawaiian islands, where he attended the wedding of Philadelphia Phillies speedster Shane Victorino.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/kate-gosselin-takes-out-trash-literally


Plus even when her and Jon were together. She took out the trash. I just posted a picture of her taking the trash out and the kids riding their bikes and motorized cars next to her the other day.

[Justice4all]

Oh I agree. Kate has never in a million years struck me as someone who would ever want anyone to pity her. She is a roll up her sleeves and just get it done type of gal. That is what makes Kate, Kate.

ITA but that's not how the article made it sound........IMO

[Palm Palm]

This post cracks me up LMBO

I have no seen kate do one thing with her children since TLC packed up and left. ( other then taking them to and from school and yelling at them )


I used to adore the old Jon and Kate from the first season...What happen to them? Where did they go?



MHO

Ouch!! You really do not have to insult me just because you don't agree with my post. From the looks of things you seem to want to pick Kate apart. Besides I seem to be with the majority. So how is that so funny to you.

Just one example of how Kate is doing so much with her kids is Holloween and how she was able to pull off Trick-or-Treating with her kids and no PAPS. It is only obvious she is not doing all she does with her kids for camera time. If she was then she would of made sure cameras caught their every move. That sounds like Jon, not Kate. Just like he did when he brought ET along for the twins birthday. Even though he says the cameras are not good for them. Ditto on how he is constantly talking with the PAPS. If he wanted them to quit filming those kids, he would ignore them just the way Kate does.

How do you know what goes on and all the activities she does with her kids behind closed doors? What she does sure beats Jon riding them around and putting them in danger right infront of the PAPS. Besides he hardly seems to be with them. He does not even live in the same state. Thats the kind of choices he is making that make me thankful Kate is putting them as her number one priority. That is why so many good things are coming her way. What is good for her is good for those kids so many like me have grown to love.

Kate seems like the same Kate she has always been. With Jon I surely can't figure out what happened to him. Used to love if, but its all over now!

IMO

[Justice4all]

Ouch!! You really do not have to insult me just because you don't agree with my post. From the looks of things you seem to want to pick Kate apart. Besides I seem to be with the majority. So how is that so funny to you.

(snipped)

IMO

How in the world did i insult you? I sure didn't mean to. :confused:

and so what if i pick Kate apart...i see lots of post picking Jon apart.
I honestly can't stand either parent. IMO they are both self centered.

[Palm Palm]

How in the world did i insult you? I sure didn't mean to. :confused:

and so what if i pick Kate apart...i see lots of post picking Jon apart.
I honestly can't stand either parent. IMO they are both self centered.

Okay I honestly felt you saying you LYBO at my post was insulting as I did not feel it was funny at all.

Jon is picking his own self apart. I think posters are just plain fed up with all he is doing. Jon and Kate and how they are handling the divorce and most importantly their children's precious lives are as different as night and day. There is just no comparision.

I do not see Kate as self centered at all. We sure don't see her out on the town living it up and having affairs. Now that would be self centered! Instead she is with those kids and making the very best at what has to be a nightmare that Jon brought on because of his own self centered it's all about me attitude. Just because she is going forward with her show to support those wonderful kids does not make her self centered. Many people in Kate's shoes would crawl in bed and pull the covers up. Instead she is doing whatever possible to benifit those kids. Who else is going to support them? She is doing it the right way with dignity and class. She is not resorting to trash talking for pay like we see Jon doing.

IMO

[Justice4all]

Okay I honestly felt you saying you LYBO at my post was insulting as I did not feel it was funny at all.

( snipped per CW )

IMO

I was not laughing at YOU.

[Palm Palm]

I was not laughing at YOU.

Thanks good to know! :biggrin:

[daniel green]

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Yes, I can just imagine her with her little dolls walking the red carpet. I can just picture the lil girls in fancy dresses and the boys in their formal clothes. She always takes such pride in their grooming and clothes. That is a lot of work with 1 kid. I can only imagine for 8!! You can tell by how well behaved they are that she really has her priorities straight.

IMO!

Oh, absolutely!

[daniel green]

The article wasn't a pity party, as you like to call every story about Kate, it was about Kate doing something with some of her children. She just happened to be taking a large trash container down the driveway to the street.

JMO

Yep. Just a regular mom, with regular kids, having had the bodyguard and his family and some other friends for dinner. While Jon was in Hawaii downing shots with his allyoucandrinkforoneprice bracelet on.

It did not say poor Kate at all. It was just showing the difference in what the two were doing. Kate at home with kids and friends, taking out the garbage and Jon, well, being Jon, in Hawaii.

[daniel green]

Justic4all, I doubt she took out the trash for anyones pity. Makes no sense, sorry J, it just looks to me she took it out because it needed to be done.

No kidding. Because that is what parents and homeowners/renters are doing all across the country.

[Justice4all]

No kidding. Because that is what parents and homeowners/renters are doing all across the country.

Don't you find it odd that Radar is always around the house to take pictures of them?

[daniel green]

The words “Broken Dreams, Broken Promises, Broken Episodes” flashed across a black screen before the second new episode of Jon & Kate Plus 8 on Monday night. One of the first stories “interrupted by the events of this summer” was an episode dubbed “Passports to Nowhere” when the family went to get their passports for an overseas trip that eventually never happened. After asking the children not to divulge the location of their trip for security reasons, Kate lashed out at Jon after he slips and mentions their destination while berating Kate for writing “Korea” instead of “South Korea.” “Kate freaks out about everything.” Jon mumbled under his breath. Kate, who was on the floor looking through the children’s photos as they colored around her, quickly retorted: “I don’t know what planet you’re on!” In retrospect, Kate admitted, “I don’t think I handled that too well.” The trip to the travel agency happened during February as rumors of Jon’s alleged infidelity became public. According to Kate, the trip never happened because “Jon didn’t want the kids to go which made me very sad because it was a lifelong dream of ours to get our kids back to Korea where their ancestors came from.”

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-jon-kate-gosselin-bicker-travel-store

[daniel green]

Kate and Jon Gosselin continue to live out their separate lives in front of the public. On Monday’s show of Jon & Kate Plus 8, Kate has a reflective moment after taking all eight of the children to dinner minus her estranged husband. On one of the last episodes of the series, Kate takes the kids to dinner and later watches over them as they head to gymnastics class for the first time. During the second half of the show, the brood spend time with Jon during a visit with a local professional baseball team. “This was kind of weird and different,” Kate said when looking back at her dinner outing with the children. “It probably is the first time I took all eight kids to dinner. I’m not going to say alone but, you know, without Jon.” Even through she patted herself on the back about how “efficient” she was, she did concede that she and Jon used to “have a process” of passing out the cups, foods, etc. After brushing off the nostalgia, Kate couldn’t help but add: “I didn’t feel like I was too hindered by it.”

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-kate-gosselin-says-family-dinner-outings-are-%E2%80%9Cweird%E2%80%9D-without-jon

[Justice4all]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-jon-kate-gosselin-bicker-travel-store

well at least she told the truth......She didn't handle that very well. :glare:

[Justice4all]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-kate-gosselin-says-family-dinner-outings-are-%E2%80%9Cweird%E2%80%9D-without-jon

That restaurant sure didn't look organic to me...


mho

[Humdinger]

That restaurant sure didn't look organic to me...


mho


No, it wasn't. :laugh:

VIDEO: "Kate Gosselin Says Family Dinner Outings Are “Weird” Without JonVIDEO: Kate Gosselin Says Family Dinner Outings Are “Weird” Without Jon"

Maybe Kate should have thought of that during all the years she spent dinner time either screaming at Jon, screaming at the kids, or both.

Did you see the video of her getting the kids off the bus a few days ago and her screeching at those little ones while they stood like fearful soldiers next to the car?????

No smiles getting off the bus, no hello-hugs....just immediate screaming.

It's pitifully sad what she was doing to them, and to see their little faces. :sad:

[Palm Palm]

Don't you find it odd that Radar is always around the house to take pictures of them?

I would find it odd if they were not. With Jon forever entertaining the Paps, he just keeps them coming back for more of the same. If he would quit constantly doing those interviews with them and letting them know his every thought and answering their questions they would soon go away. Funny how he says the tabloids are telling lies about him yet he seems to be on a first name basis with them and acts like they are good buds. Hmmmmmmm! Have to wonder if he is getting paid to feed them stories/pics the same way he is doing with tabloid tv. When Kate Majors testifies we might just find out.

Wish he would do like Kate does and ignore them. Those kids being on camera is what he said was so bad for them. Sure does not seem to be the case with him. I guess that only goes for TLC cameras. Once they ditched his name, they became the bad guys. No doubt if that had not happened he would be all lovey dovey with them too. As long as there is a focus on him, he is just fine with the cameras.

IMO

[angiemomof4]

well at least she told the truth......She didn't handle that very well. :glare:

Well, neither did Jon.

[Justice4all]

Could you imagine the public outrage there would be if Jon talked about putting a shock collar on Kate? Why do we not have that outrage when Kate says it about Jon? :huh:

[Mnchkin426]

That restaurant sure didn't look organic to me...


mho

How does a restaurant look organic?

JMO

[Mnchkin426]

No, it wasn't. :laugh:

VIDEO: "Kate Gosselin Says Family Dinner Outings Are “Weird” Without JonVIDEO: Kate Gosselin Says Family Dinner Outings Are “Weird” Without Jon"

Maybe Kate should have thought of that during all the years she spent dinner time either screaming at Jon, screaming at the kids, or both.

Did you see the video of her getting the kids off the bus a few days ago and her screeching at those little ones while they stood like fearful soldiers next to the car?????

No smiles getting off the bus, no hello-hugs....just immediate screaming.

It's pitifully sad what she was doing to them, and to see their little faces. :sad:

Could you please tell me how you know for a fact that the restaurant wasn't organic?

JMO

[Casecase]

Could you imagine the public outrage there would be if Jon talked about putting a shock collar on Kate? Why do we not have that outrage when Kate says it about Jon? :huh:


We don't have the public outrage with Kate seeing it about Jon because a lot of people probably think he could have used a shock collar. And there would have been little, if any, public outrage if Jon had said it about Kate because many people would have thought she deserved it. Look how many people justify his cheating and partying by saying she deserves it.


IMO

[daniel green]

That restaurant sure didn't look organic to me...


mho

The broccoli and green beans were not organic? Who knew! :rolleyes:

[daniel green]

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It makes me wonder what's wrong with people who will put a woman down for being sooo mean, blah, blah, blah, wah, wah, wah, yet they can cheer on and make excuses for a drunken lout of a cheating liar who's shown himself to be a thousand times more cruel to his entire family than his wife ever dreamed of. Makes no sense.

I agree, completely.

Add on fabricated outrage over a dog collar COMMENT (which was pretty funny) and a restaurant and we've got the trifecta.

[Justice4all]

We don't have the public outrage with Kate seeing it about Jon because a lot of people probably think he could have used a shock collar. And there would have been little, if any, public outrage if Jon had said it about Kate because many people would have thought she deserved it. Look how many people justify his cheating and partying by saying she deserves it.


IMO

I've never heard anyone say Kate deserved Jon cheating on her and partying. IMO NO ONE deserves to be disrespected that way.

[Justice4all]

The broccoli and green beans were not organic? Who knew! :rolleyes:

Were they? I don't know....again the restaurant did NOT look like an organic place to me. and i just watched a video last night of the children eating pizza's that were delivered. I doubt they were organic either.

that's MY opinion..........if you don't like my opinions why don't you just put me on ignore. TY DG :rose:

[Justice4all]

I agree, completely.

Add on fabricated outrage over a dog collar COMMENT (which was pretty funny) and a restaurant and we've got the trifecta.

BBM............why do you think i'm fabricating outrage? I'm only giving my opinion. Am i not entitled to that? :confused:

or would it just be best if i just sit in the corner like a good girl and keep my mouth shut about Jon and Kate?

[Justice4all]

I just watched the Insider from last night and they said Jon had a big family reunion in Hawaii and they brought up the cocaine allegations and he said " i'm not a cocaine addict"......does that mean he doesn't use cocaine or he's just not addicted to it? :blink:

Because I was shocked at the wording.

Hopefully that lady on youtube will have that video up in the next few days.

Did anyone else see the Insider last night and was anyone else as shocked as i was?

[daniel green]

As most of you know, we are vegetarians and eat as most organic and locally-grown produce and products as are available--including milk.

I think there might be some confusion about organic food. I don't care about the restaurant one way or the other, nor think it is very important except as an attempt to bash Kate--but I did not see a thing in that restaurant that screamed non-organic. The grilled fish, the vegetables, the fries--all of that could have been organic.

[daniel green]

If you’ve ever considered breaking your contract with the cable network who continues to edit your reality show, consider Jon Gosselin’s plight. In the past year, reality television’s most notorious father of multiples violated his contract with TLC repeatedly to collect money from The Insider and a few assorted Vegas casinos who paid him to shlub around their pool parties. Gosselin then accused the network of violating child labor laws (after learning that he would be booted from Jon & Kate Plus 8), and now he is paying the ultimate price in the edit room... Last night, Jon was depicted as a distracted dad who double-fists cellphones and ignores his children’s pleas for food in favor of schmoozing the crowds of female fans that accumulate on the fringe of his property. In one shot, Kate complained about the fact that Jon never trained their two dogs. In the next few minutes, Jon was again captured on his cell phone, a distant “What up,” captured by TLC’s mics. Kate’s barbs, which once looked so unfair, now seem well-deserved.

http://www.movieline.com/2009/11/reality-tv-lesson-1-dont-burn-the-people-who-edit-you.php

[Justice4all]

As most of you know, we are vegetarians and eat as most organic and locally-grown produce and products as are available--including milk.

I think there might be some confusion about organic food. I don't care about the restaurant one way or the other, nor think it is very important except as an attempt to bash Kate--but I did not see a thing in that restaurant that screamed non-organic. The grilled fish, the vegetables, the fries--all of that could have been organic.

sure they could have but I don't think they were........MHO

and i'm not trying to just bash Kate....stop saying that please it's not nice and it's against TOS

Everyday you post links and make comments about Jon...Does that mean you are bashing him or just giving YOUR opinion?

MHO

[Justice4all]

Personally, I thought the dog collar comment was funny, too. It made me :laugh:

...and, to be quite frank, putting a muzzle on Kate wouldn't have seemed like a bad idea on occassion. LOL J/K!!!!!...sort of... :tongue:

Oh geez. Now, I have a visual of Jon with his collar, Kate with her muzzle, and all of them living quietly and peacefully ever after. LOL :lol:

Marriage might have last longer that way LOL........

[ish]

Someone posted a link talking about single mom kate gosselin having to take her heavy trash can to the curb while Jon's in Hawaii........:rolleyes: that's just insane. My husband was in the USMC for almost 23 years and i took the trash out every wed and sat for those 23 years. No one gave me a pity party LOL

My bold

But Kate not only took the trash can but the HEAVY trash can to the curb.:rolleyes:

8 kids and only one trash can? how does she do it?:laugh:

[Casecase]

I've never heard anyone say Kate deserved Jon cheating on her and partying. IMO NO ONE deserves to be disrespected that way.

There are plenty of comments on blogs, articles, etc. from people who say that she deserved it. I don't want to link anything because some of the language in the comments on some of these websites is really inappropriate.


IMO

[Justice4all]

There are plenty of comments on blogs, articles, etc. from people who say that she deserved it. I don't want to link anything because some of the language in the comments on some of these websites is really inappropriate.


IMO

Well if it can't be posted on here maybe it shouldn't be talked about on here....Since it's just rumors if you can't show proof........MHO

[ish]

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-jon-kate-gosselin-bicker-travel-store

I have to agree with Jon on that one, Taking 8 small kids on a flight to Korea (a very long flight) is not practical. Kate became unglued just flying to Utah with them. Better to wait til they are older and better able to handle a long trip like that.

[Lavinya]

Could you imagine the public outrage there would be if Jon talked about putting a shock collar on Kate? Why do we not have that outrage when Kate says it about Jon? :huh:

I think it's because Jon is the one who is acting like a dog. Or a Tom cat.

[Casecase]

sure they could have but I don't think they were........MHO

and i'm not trying to just bash Kate....stop saying that please it's not nice and it's against TOS

Everyday you post links and make comments about Jon...Does that mean you are bashing him or just giving YOUR opinion?

MHO

On the organic thing . . . have they said recently that they only eat organic? I remember it being on the show when the kids were younger, and there was the episode about organic cooking, but I wonder how strict they actually are about it. Maybe they buy and eat as much organic as possible but aren't "militant" about it??? For instance, was the birthday cake for the twins' birthday organic?


IMO

[Justice4all]

On the organic thing . . . have they said recently that they only eat organic? I remember it being on the show when the kids were younger, and there was the episode about organic cooking, but I wonder how strict they actually are about it. Maybe they buy and eat as much organic as possible but aren't "militant" about it??? For instance, was the birthday cake for the twins' birthday organic?


IMO

oh i seriously doubt that bday was organic or the pizza when they first moved in the house.

and honestly i haven't heard them talk about eating organic since they moved in the new house.

honestly i wasn't trying to "bash kate" i was just making an observation.

and on a side note.........Kate loves Dunkin Donuts and DD doesn't have organic coffee. http://www.coffeehabitat.com/2009/09/no-shade-coffee-at-dunkin-donuts.html


mho



(( oh and i almost forgot to say.........I don't think ANYTHING Jon's ate in the past year has been organic ))

[Casecase]

Well if it can't be posted on here maybe it shouldn't be talked about on here....Since it's just rumors if you can't show proof........MHO


Alrighty, here you go . . . if anyone is easily offended by swear words, don't read the comments, just read the main article!


http://www.sodahead.com/living/jon-gosselin-cheats-on-kate-kate-deserved-it-what-constitutes-cheating/question-440485/


IMO

[Casecase]

oh i seriously doubt that bday was organic or the pizza when they first moved in the house.

and honestly i haven't heard them talk about eating organic since they moved in the new house.

honestly i wasn't trying to "bash kate" i was just making an observation.

and on a side note.........Kate loves Dunkin Donuts and DD doesn't have organic coffee. http://www.coffeehabitat.com/2009/09/no-shade-coffee-at-dunkin-donuts.html




mho



(( oh and i almost forgot to say.........I don't think ANYTHING Jon's ate in the past year has been organic ))


I didn't think you were bashing Kate. And I didn't bring up the cake to bash Jon, it was just the first example I could think of!


IMO

[Casecase]

I have to agree with Jon on that one, Taking 8 small kids on a flight to Korea (a very long flight) is not practical. Kate became unglued just flying to Utah with them. Better to wait til they are older and better able to handle a long trip like that.

That's true . . . but I could also see it as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for all of them to get to go there together to explore their heritage. It would be hard to pass that up.


IMO

[Justice4all]

I have to agree with Jon on that one, Taking 8 small kids on a flight to Korea (a very long flight) is not practical. Kate became unglued just flying to Utah with them. Better to wait til they are older and better able to handle a long trip like that.

Oh ITA...20+ hours on a plane is horrible when you are an adult i don't think the little ones could handle it.

[Justice4all]

That's true . . . but I could also see it as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for all of them to get to go there together to explore their heritage. It would be hard to pass that up.


IMO

I went to South Korea once........it's an amazing place. I agree the trip would have been hard but i would have had a hard time passing it up.

Does TLC pay for all those trips or did the family?

[Mnchkin426]

Oh ITA...20+ hours on a plane is horrible when you are an adult i don't think the little ones could handle it.

My grandchildren make a trip that long from China each summer....they are 2 and 5 now and have done it for several years.

JMO

[Justice4all]

My grandchildren make a trip that long from China each summer....they are 2 and 5 now and have done it for several years.

JMO

only two of them right? not eight....
i have four children, 2 step children and 1 adopted....
OMG i would not fly 20 hours when they were they were 9 (2) and 6 (5) what a nightmare.
but from the time our children were babies we went every summer to Rome and that was 15 hours of pure............. ( never mind i loved the holiday with my family )

[daniel green]

On the organic thing . . . have they said recently that they only eat organic? snipped

They've never said they were ate ONLY organic. That is almost an impossibility, I can tell you from our own family. But families who decide to eat better/healthier, choose to buy and eat as mostly organic, locally grown/produced foods as possible.

And the food would not necessarily have to be organic, which, under the United States Department of Agriculture’s definition, means it is generally free of synthetic substances; contains no antibiotics and hormones; has not been irradiated or fertilized with sewage sludge; was raised without the use of most conventional pesticides; and contains no genetically modified ingredients.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/22/weekinreview/22bittman.html

I have noticed through the yrs that the Gosselins ate less meat than most American families and ate lots of vegetables and whole grains.
They did not do fast-food, either.

And that is a good thing.

Of course, even families who go the organic route make exceptions. Birthday cakes, ocassional treats, etc. We love, for instance, Five Guy's fries, made from organically grown potatoes, sliced fresh and fried in peanut oil!

[daniel green]

My grandchildren make a trip that long from China each summer....they are 2 and 5 now and have done it for several years.

JMO

The Gosselin children behaved excellently on the plane going to San Diego and all the way to Hawaii and back.

[daniel green]

I went to South Korea once........it's an amazing place. snipped

What was your most lasting impression of it?

[Justice4all]

What was your most lasting impression of it?

I've only been to Seoul and it's really an amazing place. The people were so warm and friendly. The food was amazing and I loved the subway system, and don't get me started on the food.YummmY

[ish]

That's true . . . but I could also see it as a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for all of them to get to go there together to explore their heritage. It would be hard to pass that up.


IMO

Very true, but a once in a lifetime trip to S Korea may be wasted on 6 kids that young. The twins are old enough to recall some of it but even they are a tad young for that trip. I would wait till all the kids are older, maybe 12 for the tups. It won't be a cheap trip and I would imagine they would stay several weeks so I think that is about the earliest age I can see it being both fun and really being memorable. To be honest though, I didn't ever see/hear much outside of the one Korean meal Jon prepared that tipped the audience to the fact that either parent had much interest in their heritage. Of course, it may have been discussed off camera much more.

[daniel green]

lilsugar: Does or did incorporating grains into the Gosselin family diet bring down the food bill?

KG: Definitely. Grains like bread, crackers, pretzels, and granola bars have always been a part of our family diet because they are affordable, delicious and nutritious. We go through a loaf of bread at every meal so I usually buy a whole flat of bread at one time!

lilsugar: How important do you think it is to raise children on an organic diet?

KG: More than anything, I think it’s important to raise children on a healthy diet. As I’m sure you’ve seen on the show, I try to find fruits and vegetables from local farm stands but when that isn’t possible, there are always great and healthy options available at the supermarket.

http://www.lilsugar.com/2094560

[daniel green]

I've only been to Seoul and it's really an amazing place. The people were so warm and friendly. The food was amazing and I loved the subway system, and don't get me started on the food.YummmY

Really, you liked the food?

[Justice4all]

Kate Gosselin Parks Illegally While Doing Chores


Kate Gosselin was snapped Monday parking illegally while doing chores in her hometown of Wernersville, Pennsylvania.


http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/kate-gosselin-parks-illegally-while-doing-chores

[daniel green]

The problem I have with the trip and the once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, is that the little ones are just that...too little. They're only five after all. Their memories of what went on would be hazy at best in later years.

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But that doesn't matter, I don't think. We've traveled with our children all their lives and even if they might not remember something, WE sure do.

And you'd be amazed at what kids remember at age 5.

My kids remember things from visits to South America and Israel from when they were very little.

[Justice4all]

Really, you liked the food?

ohhhhhhhhhhh heck yes. I loved the Daeji Bulgogi,Kimchi and they make this fish shaped pastry things ( sorry can't remember there name ) omg they were yummmmmy.

[Justice4all]

they are called Bungeoppang..........I had to go look them up LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungeoppang

[daniel green]

I’ve heard you say that you try to cook with organic ingredients. Why is that important to you?

When I can use organic, I do. It can be more expensive, so it’s not always possible, but I just feel like foods that are grown naturally and locally help the earth. I buy most of my produce at local markets or farmers’ stands. And I feel better serving my kids foods that haven’t been sprayed with pesticides or chemicals.

http://www.womansday.com/Articles/Entertainment/Celebrities/How-She-Does-It-Kate-Gosselin.html

[daniel green]

ohhhhhhhhhhh heck yes. I loved the Daeji Bulgogi,Kimchi and they make this fish shaped pastry things ( sorry can't remember there name ) omg they were yummmmmy.

I couldn't eat a thing when my ex-husband and I spent 4 days there. The smell of kerosene was so horrific, it permeated everything and everywhere and made me, literally, sick to my stomach. Add to that the smell of kimchi cooking and, well, ick.

[daniel green]

Well, like I said, traveling isn't my forte`. I do know kids can remember lots of things when very young, because I can remember stuff when I was 2 years old, but to really grasp the heritage education idea would be asking a lot of the little one's. IMVHO

It probly would be asking a lot of them. But they are experienced travellers those little ones.

[Casecase]

It probly would be asking a lot of them. But they are experienced travellers those little ones.


So just for fun, I looked to see how long a flight to Hawaii is vs. a flight to South Korea. A nonstop flight out of JFK is about 14-1/2 hrs. Trip could go upwards of 30 hours (depending on the layovers and plane changes). I didn't see any nonstop flights from JFK to Honolulu, but the least amount of travel time is just short of 13 hours. So I'm thinking that if the kiddies did o.k. on the flight to Hawaii, they probably could have handled the South Korea flight.

Financially - and especially now knowing that they didn't make quite as much money as everyone thought - there is probably no way they could have ever afforded to take all 8 kids on a trip like that, on their own dime . . . unless they lined up some big money entertainment gigs.

We love to travel but don't do as much of it as we would like because of time and money. Ever since our child was little, we always travelled with her. She doesn't remember all the trips we've taken, but we love to share memories and pictures with her of the things she did and the things she experienced, and she loves to hear about it. I was very small when my grandparents took me to Florida. I don't remember any of it, but I have the pictures. I love hearing the stories and seeing the pictures and just knowing that I was there, even though I don't remember it.


IMO

[Mnchkin426]

But that doesn't matter, I don't think. We've traveled with our children all their lives and even if they might not remember something, WE sure do.

And you'd be amazed at what kids remember at age 5.

My kids remember things from visits to South America and Israel from when they were very little.

I think if you gear a trip to the age of the children, then the chances are they will remember at least some of what they experienced. Our son and daughter-in-law have traveled extensively during the time they have been in China....always with the children. They focus on activities that the children will enjoy. I imagine that the grandchildren will remember things like the pink dolphins in Malaysia, the sheep farms in New Zealand, the water slides (in Bali, I think) and riding an elephant (Thailand, maybe). May not be the most educational experiences but I bet they are unforgetable.

JMO

[Justice4all]

Who paid for all the trips the Gosselins took?

[daniel green]

So just for fun, I looked to see how long a flight to Hawaii is vs. a flight to South Korea. A nonstop flight out of JFK is about 14-1/2 hrs. Trip could go upwards of 30 hours (depending on the layovers and plane changes). I didn't see any nonstop flights from JFK to Honolulu, but the least amount of travel time is just short of 13 hours. So I'm thinking that if the kiddies did o.k. on the flight to Hawaii, they probably could have handled the South Korea flight.

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Thank you! I was just thinking in my head about how they are probly similar in length. And they could fly at night, when kids are asleep, etc.

I know the children were always well behaved on those long trips.

[daniel green]

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We love to travel but don't do as much of it as we would like because of time and money. Ever since our child was little, we always travelled with her. She doesn't remember all the trips we've taken, but we love to share memories and pictures with her of the things she did and the things she experienced, and she loves to hear about it. I was very small when my grandparents took me to Florida. I don't remember any of it, but I have the pictures. I love hearing the stories and seeing the pictures and just knowing that I was there, even though I don't remember it.


IMO

Love those memories. Same here.

My oldest little grand-daughter turned 2 in July and we have taken her to the beach several times, to fairs, to the zoo, to an aquarium, etc, and she LOVES looking at the pictures and the videos, even now.

My kids all love their pictures and videos taken in many places, too.

I agree that if things are greared toward children they enjoy the trip and remember it! Good point!

[daniel green]

I think if you gear a trip to the age of the children, then the chances are they will remember at least some of what they experienced. Our son and daughter-in-law have traveled extensively during the time they have been in China....always with the children. They focus on activities that the children will enjoy. I imagine that the grandchildren will remember things like the pink dolphins in Malaysia, the sheep farms in New Zealand, the water slides (in Bali, I think) and riding an elephant (Thailand, maybe). May not be the most educational experiences but I bet they are unforgetable.

JMO

How wonderful!!!! And those are, simply, just wonderful experiences and great education.

I have always wanted to go to Bali!

[Lavinya]

On the organic thing . . . have they said recently that they only eat organic? I remember it being on the show when the kids were younger, and there was the episode about organic cooking, but I wonder how strict they actually are about it. Maybe they buy and eat as much organic as possible but aren't "militant" about it??? For instance, was the birthday cake for the twins' birthday organic?


IMO

I was going to bring that up, too. I used to try to eat organics and vegetarian, but if I was at someone's house or went out to eat with people, I ate what everyone else did. It wasn't *that* big of a deal.

[daniel green]

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/31278/2009/11/kate-gosselin-takes-kids-park

Those children are just too cute.

[Mnchkin426]

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/31278/2009/11/kate-gosselin-takes-kids-park

Those children are just too cute.

Nothing like children and a playground. They seemed to be having a wonderful time.

JMO

[Justice4all]

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/image/31278/2009/11/kate-gosselin-takes-kids-park

Those children are just too cute.

They are so adorable. I have a lot of children lol...so i hate people to pick favorites but i must confess Aaden's my favorite. I hope after the divorce and things calm down we see the children back on TLC again.... I wish they could show the children with both parents but it's obvious that Jon doesn't want to act right.


MHO

[Casecase]

Love those memories. Same here.

My oldest little grand-daughter turned 2 in July and we have taken her to the beach several times, to fairs, to the zoo, to an aquarium, etc, and she LOVES looking at the pictures and the videos, even now.

My kids all love their pictures and videos taken in many places, too.

I agree that if things are greared toward children they enjoy the trip and remember it! Good point!


This just made me think, if we only ever did things at a time when our kids would remember them, we would never do anything. Disney may not be far away as South Korea or Hawaii, but how many parents have gone to the time and expense to take their kids there before they would be really old enough to remember it? If everyone waited until their kids were old enough, the kids would no longer even be interested in Disney!

Beaches, zoos, hands-on museums, parks, far-away vacations . . . we take our kids there because we want to experience the moment with them, even though they may not remember it 2 months or 2 years from now.


IMO

[daniel green]

This just made me think, if we only ever did things at a time when our kids would remember them, we would never do anything. snipped

Exactly!

I've been thinking about this, too and had come to a similar conclusion. Why take my grand-daughter to feed the ducks and to lunch every Friday? She won't remember it.

[ish]

Thank you! I was just thinking in my head about how they are probly similar in length. And they could fly at night, when kids are asleep, etc.

I know the children were always well behaved on those long trips.

Yeah they were great on that trip to Utah, the one where Kate had the meltdown. The kids might do better than she did.

With the divorce, I guess any trip the kids take to S Korea will be with Jon, if he has any interest in going. If the reason for the trip is just to see family on Jon's side, maybe he can meet them in Hawaii with the kids for another vacation.

I enjoyed watching the kids at the AA ball game on one of last nights shows. Jon was much more relaxed and seemed very happy. The kids had such a good time. I laughed when Jon said half the kids were into the game and the rest were all about the food! They really packed it away, hot dogs, popcorn, funnel cakes! A good time had by all!

[angiemomof4]

I agree, completely.

Add on fabricated outrage over a dog collar COMMENT (which was pretty funny) and a restaurant and we've got the trifecta.

I thought it was funny too.

I've made similiar comments about my 3 year old. He's a HANDFUL AND A HALF....kids making me grey... sometimes ya have to have a sense of humor to deal with life.

CPS come and arrest me. :rolleyes:

[birdwatch]

That restaurant sure didn't look organic to me...


mho I thought I looked great. Mini burgers, mac&cheese, green vegies.

[birdwatch]

they are called Bungeoppang..........I had to go look them up LOL

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bungeoppang I would love to try that. There is a market here where I buy good kimchi and I noticed they cook some things there too. Maybe they make that there.
Too bad that the kids aren't getting to go to S Korea anytime soon - but maybe when they are older would be better for a long trip to a really different culture - different from what they are used to here.
I wonder if Kate really did not know the difference between S and N Korea? Who would just put down Korea?

[Justice4all]

I would love to try that. There is a market here where I buy good kimchi and I noticed they cook some things there too. Maybe they make that there.
Too bad that the kids aren't getting to go to S Korea anytime soon - but maybe when they are older would be better for a long trip to a really different culture - different from what they are used to here.
I wonder if Kate really did not know the difference between S and N Korea? Who would just put down Korea?

It would be pretty shocking if she didn't know the difference and IMO it was a put down to Jon's heritage to act like her mistake wasn't that big of a deal.

[birdwatch]

It would be pretty shocking if she didn't know the difference and IMO it was a put down to Jon's heritage to act like her mistake wasn't that big of a deal. I think you are right and I'm surprised. Her kids have a S. Korean heritage too.

[Palm Palm]

What's sad, is that no one "deserves" to be treated like Jon treated Kate. :shrug: If you don't like the person you're married to, you get a divorce and THEN you sleep around and party. Yeah, poor, pitiful, abused, hen-pecked, whiney-baby Jonny. My heart just bleeds for the adulterous louse. :rolleyes: NOT!

Anyone who blames Kate for that man's behavior has a few screws that need tightening down. Just because he wasn't happy, doesn't mean he had any right to make his children suffer.

It makes me wonder what's wrong with people who will put a woman down for being sooo mean, blah, blah, blah, wah, wah, wah, yet they can cheer on and make excuses for a drunken lout of a cheating liar who's shown himself to be a thousand times more cruel to his entire family than his wife ever dreamed of. Makes no sense.

GREAT POST!! BRAVO!!!
You don't want to be with your spouse, feel like you are being abused.......GET OUT!! I don't mean get out and party with hot young things and sneak them on ski vacations on your wife's birthday and say your are doing so to help handicapped children on TLC's dime. Wrong on so many levels!!!

About Jon's and other posters claim that Kate is abusive. If Jon really felt she is abusive, then how can he explain why he moved so far away from those kids?!?! How can he turn his back on his children and jet set all over the place on pleasure trips that cut into his visitations with them? It is only obvious that if he thought her abusive, he would want to spend as much time with his kids as possible and live as close as he could to them. He would welcome TLC cameras filming them so at least he could feel some comfort that during the days of filming Kate would not be abusive. Actions speak louder than words Jon!
IMO

[Justice4all]

I think you are right and I'm surprised. Her kids have a S. Korean heritage too.

Very true and when she disrespects Jons heritage she's disrespecting her childrens heritage........MHO

[daniel green]

Very true and when she disrespects Jons heritage she's disrespecting her childrens heritage........MHO

When on earth has she ever done that?

Good grief. :rolleyes:

[Palm Palm]

I have to agree with Jon on that one, Taking 8 small kids on a flight to Korea (a very long flight) is not practical. Kate became unglued just flying to Utah with them. Better to wait til they are older and better able to handle a long trip like that.

Utah trip was just one of many they took. IIRC, they had to circle the airport for a good deal of time and that is when Kate got upset. I would of been a lot worse with fear had I been in the same such situation.

Just the fact that Kate wanted her kids to know their heritage on Jon's side shows a great deal of respect to him on her part. Even if the trip would of been a lot of work for her, she was willing to take it on for her children. I suspect Jon had his mind on other things, of the young and hot nature, and a trip like that would of cut into his own wants and needs. Kate's mind, as always, was on her kids. Jon not so much.

If Kate some how won a free trip for one to Korea, highly doubtful she would go. She only wanted the trip for the kids, not herself. I say BRAVO to her for thinking of them and not herself!

IMO

[daniel green]

Utah trip was just one of many they took. IIRC, they had to circle the airport for a good deal of time and that is when Kate got upset. I would of been a lot worse with fear had I been in the same such situation.

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They were on the ground for hours, right? Unable to get off the plane, just waiting.

[Palm Palm]

It would be pretty shocking if she didn't know the difference and IMO it was a put down to Jon's heritage to act like her mistake wasn't that big of a deal.

Oh gosh, what a streach. Don't you at least see Kate wanting to take her kids on the trip to begin with a huge plus on her part? I doubt she would plan such a vacation then turn around and knock Jon's heritage. Makes zero sense.

For the record I get the Koreas mixed up all the time. Does that mean I am knocking either side........I think not.

[Palm Palm]

They were on the ground for hours, right? Unable to get off the plane, just waiting.

Not sure how that worked out. When you plan any kind of trip and it takes hours longer than is expected, who doesn't get upset? Let alone with 8 little ones.

[Justice4all]

Oh gosh, what a streach. Don't you at least see Kate wanting to take her kids on the trip to begin with a huge plus on her part? I doubt she would plan such a vacation then turn around and knock Jon's heritage. Makes zero sense.

For the record I get the Koreas mixed up all the time. Does that mean I am knocking either side........I think not.

How is that huge on her part?
and i'm sorry but you don't just call it "korea" it's either North Korea ( which i seriously doubt she wants to take her children to for safety reasons ) and then there is South Korea ( wonderful country ). could you imagine being her being in North Carolina and just calling it Carolina or South Carolina?

You seriously get the Korea's mixed up? Well that speaks volumes to me....

MOO

[Justice4all]

Not sure how that worked out. When you plan any kind of trip and it takes hours longer than is expected, who doesn't get upset? Let alone with 8 little ones.

I've flown with all seven of our children, 4 grandchildren and i've never started screaming and crying...and we were snowed in at O"Hare airport for almost 6 hours. Kate wasn't taking care of all 8 children alone. Jon was there and they brought "friends" (help) with them. Jon nor the friends were screaming and crying.

[Palm Palm]

I think it's because Jon is the one who is acting like a dog. Or a Tom cat.

My you certainly have a way with words. Too funny, yet so very true L!!:biggrin:

IMO

[daniel green]

Not sure how that worked out. When you plan any kind of trip and it takes hours longer than is expected, who doesn't get upset? Let alone with 8 little ones.

I would have been howling, I can tell you that.

(Oh, and having actually been to Korea (for all of 4 days), I can tell you I never add "South" to it, either)

[Justice4all]

I would have been howling, I can tell you that.

(Oh, and having actually been to Korea (for all of 4 days), I can tell you I never add "South" to it, either)

on your passport paperwork you just put Korea?

[daniel green]

On a trip to Salt Lake City, Utah, which required no less than 13 suitcases, the Gosselins’ plane rerouted to Boise, Idaho, for refueling. Just as Kate was beginning to lose it (with one of the little girls jumping on the seat next to her), the whole plane was soon crying — even Kate. But as they touched down, all the craziness was forgotten and the plane erupted with cheers.

http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/06/30/jon-kate-plus-eight-looks-back-at-fond-memories/

[Casecase]

How is that huge on her part?
and i'm sorry but you don't just call it "korea" it's either North Korea ( which i seriously doubt she wants to take her children to for safety reasons ) and then there is South Korea ( wonderful country ). could you imagine being her being in North Carolina and just calling it Carolina or South Carolina?

You seriously get the Korea's mixed up? Well that speaks volumes to me....

MOO

I dunno . . . my dad fought in Korea and he never specifies North or South. It's just "when I was in Korea".

As for the Carolinas, that brings to mind the song with the lyrics "Nothing could be finer than to be in Carolina in the morning". I guess either state could lay claim to it being about them!

IMO

[Justice4all]

.

http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/06/30/jon-kate-plus-eight-looks-back-at-fond-memories/

No where on the video did i see any of the other adults crying..........:sneaky:

Children cry...It's up to the parent to guide them into a peaceful place.

IMO Kate failed her children that day.

[Casecase]

The first sentence of Wikipedia's entry about South Korea was interesting - it's officially the Republic of Korea and often is simply referred to as Korea. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Korea

South Korea's official website is www.korea.net. And just taking a quick glance through the website, I noticed the use of "Korea" much more than "North Korea" or "South Korea".


IMO

[Palm Palm]

I've flown with all seven of our children, 4 grandchildren and i've never started screaming and crying...and we were snowed in at O"Hare airport for almost 6 hours. Kate wasn't taking care of all 8 children alone. Jon was there and they brought "friends" (help) with them. Jon nor the friends were screaming and crying.

Kate is their mom and obviously had her mind on those kids. She has said that she felt many times that she felt as though a giant weight was on her shoulders and that plane ride was a perfet example of her feeling just that. Sorry J but I do not remember anyone screaming.

I will never forget a trip we took with our kids from Alaska back home to Ca with all kinds of delays. I was frantic and so were others with small children aboard. So to each their own. What ages were your 7 kids? Sounds like since you had grandkids along, at least some of yours were adults. Big difference in having 8 that were, what 5 years old and younger??

This is exactly what I mean by picking Kate apart. Just look at all the trips when she did not get upset on planes. Just look at all the prep Kate takes just to prepare for such trips. She starts days in advance. Give her some credit!

[Casecase]

No where on the video did i see any of the other adults crying..........:sneaky:

Children cry...It's up to the parent to guide them into a peaceful place.

IMO Kate failed her children that day.

I gotta be honest here . . . kids or no kids, I probably would have been a crying adult. I once flew on a connecting flight and shortly after we got in the air we had to return to the airport. It was a small flight - mostly business people - and they're completely calm, more worried about meetings and appointments they would have to reschedule than anything else. Me on the other hand? Meltdown. And being stuck in a plane for any length of time causes the claustrophobia to kick in. Some people are just not good flyers. Probably Kate should have just knocked back a couple of shots of something strong and she would have enjoyed that flight a whole lot more! :laugh:


IMO