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Justice4all

11-09-2009, 11:38 AM

Picture this! Levi Johnston, Jon Gosselin together in Times Square

Levi Johnston, the ex-boyfriend of Sarah Palin's daughter, and Jon Gosselin of "Jon & Kate Plus 8" fame posed for photos on Sunday night in Times Square.

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/11/09/2009-11-09_picture_this_levi_johnston_jon_gosselin_togethe r_in_times_square.html#ixzz0WNgDhxc1

I have to wonder why Jon can't just lay low and stop doing this kind of stuff.

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 12:18 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/jon-gosselin-violates-safety-recommendations-regarding-his-atv-his-kids

I really hope Jon reads this and pays attention.

JMO

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 12:24 PM

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 12:32 PM

I hope Kate reads it and takes action, because i don't think Jon's mature enough to pay attention....MHO

Why lay this at Kate's door? What would you have her to do.....take away his toys? Somehow I don't think Jon would listen to her concerns. Jon needs to be responsible for his own actions or inactions. These are his children, too, and he should be concerned for their welfare and show it.

JMO

angiemomof4

11-09-2009, 12:41 PM

Casecase

11-09-2009, 12:52 PM

daniel green

11-09-2009, 01:12 PM

[B]Picture this! Levi Johnston, Jon Gosselin together in Times Square

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ACk!!!!!!!!! :blink:

And here I thought he'd reached the bottom of the barrel before. :scared:

Actually, a fitting duo, come to think about it.

Jon is in doing promotional material for the Insider? Has he not read the law suit against him??????

daniel green

11-09-2009, 01:15 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/jon-gosselin-violates-safety-recommendations-regarding-his-atv-his-kids

I really hope Jon reads this and pays attention.

JMO

Most frightening, the Commission says that "Children are involved in about one-third of all ATV-related deaths and hospital emergency room injuries."

Gosh, one would think he would have the common sense not to do this.

As I have said all along, Jon is heading down the Britney Spears highway--down to being photographed putting their children in unsafe situations.

daniel green

11-09-2009, 01:17 PM

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Wonder what promotional TV spots Jon is filming???

IMO

Sounds like those promos the Insider does with so many folks--like "whose side are you on?" etc. They have had Levi on for over a week doing interviews of him.

ish

11-09-2009, 01:21 PM

Match made in heaven. :rolleyes: barf

Hey, I didn't know they were having a Father of the Year Award meeting in NYC!!

Johnston's only excuse is that he is very young. I'm sure the allure of fast, easy money would be hard to resist, for most people of that age.

daniel green

11-09-2009, 01:23 PM

Jon Gosselin was snapped in New York City Monday, cutting short on his path to stop and read the New York Daily News cover story about... himself! The 32-year-old reality TV dad, who was covered in the Gotham tabloid for his brief meeting with Levi Johnston in Times Square Sunday, clearly likes seeing his picture in the paper.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-jon-gosselin-likes-reading-about-himself

:blushing::blush::blushing:

Oh, and then puts the paper back and doesn't buy it.

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 01:23 PM

I thought the same thing. What a pair to draw to, eh? :laugh:

The matching coats are rather odd. Do you think that maybe it's a fad for all the Let-me-shoot-myself-in-the-foot kind of dads??? :confused:

I don't think Jon gets to do too much more promoting until his lawsuit with TLC gets settled, although I don't know for sure, so don't quote me.

I'm not sure of this either but I think the lawsuit is for a preliminary injuction to stop Jon from doing this sort of thing....along with other things. So, he may well continue until that is decided.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 01:24 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-jon-gosselin-likes-reading-about-himself

:blushing::blush::blushing:

Oh, and then puts the paper back and doesn't buy it.

I noticed that. Don't you love it?

JMO

daniel green

11-09-2009, 01:24 PM

snippeed

The matching coats are rather odd.

I don't think Jon gets to do too much more promoting until his lawsuit with TLC gets settled, although I don't know for sure, so don't quote me.

That truly is odd. What up with that?

Just more money for TLC to get back from Jon. He keeps on breaking the terms of his contract, bless his heart.

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 01:25 PM

Why lay this at Kate's door? What would you have her to do.....take away his toys? Somehow I don't think Jon would listen to her concerns. Jon needs to be responsible for his own actions or inactions. These are his children, too, and he should be concerned for their welfare and show it.

JMO

I'm not laying this on Kate. I'm just saying if my soon to be Ex did something like this i would talk to my lawyer .....

Couldn't he be court ordered to make them wear helmets?

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 01:28 PM

I'm willing to bet that Kate has all her ducks in a row on this kind of thing. I'm also willing to bet Jon doesn't pull another stunt like this, because I'm sure he's been warned. If not by Kate, then by her or his own attorney.

These aren't the kind of things anyone, particularly a lawyer, and a mother who's as neurotic as Kate is, will be looking the other way about. Jon seems intent upon cooking his own goose.

ITA....and he's really crass to act this way in front of the cameras.

MHO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 01:30 PM

I'm not laying this on Kate. I'm just saying if my soon to be Ex did something like this i would talk to my lawyer .....

Couldn't he be court ordered to make them wear helmets?

Sorry...it sounded to me as if you were. I don't doubt that Kate would try but I have no idea whether Jon could be ordered to do anything. For one thing, he's on private property, so who would have authority over him?

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 01:33 PM

I'm willing to bet that Kate has all her ducks in a row on this kind of thing. I'm also willing to bet Jon doesn't pull another stunt like this, because I'm sure he's been warned. If not by Kate, then by her or his own attorney.

These aren't the kind of things anyone, particularly a lawyer, and a mother who's as neurotic as Kate is, will be looking the other way about. Jon seems intent upon cooking his own goose.

Since Jon has been seen doing exactly the same thing several times and nothing appears to have changed, I'm afraid that no one has the power to make him change his ways.

JMO

daniel green

11-09-2009, 01:34 PM

I'm not sure of this either but I think the lawsuit is for a preliminary injuction to stop Jon from doing this sort of thing....along with other things. So, he may well continue until that is decided.

JMO

Or Jon made it up and he is not doing promotionals for anyone and was just trying to get in the picture.

daniel green

11-09-2009, 01:36 PM

Sorry...it sounded to me as if you were. I don't doubt that Kate would try but I have no idea whether Jon could be ordered to do anything. For one thing, he's on private property, so who would have authority over him?

JMO

Nobody. There are no laws concerning children and ATVs.

daniel green

11-09-2009, 01:38 PM

:lol: Puts the paper back! What a class act, huh?

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And then jaywalks across the street.

Total class act.

Casecase

11-09-2009, 01:47 PM

Nobody. There are no laws concerning children and ATVs.

There actually are laws regarding children and ATVs in Pennsylvania - but the laws don't appear to apply if they're operating on private property owned by a parent or guardian.

http://www.pa-conservation.org/atv_laws.html

IMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 01:47 PM

And then jaywalks across the street.

Total class act.

Oh dear....I didn't notice that. Lucky there wasn't a speeding taxi coming along the street.....the way they tear around in NYC is incredible.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 01:49 PM

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 02:25 PM

There actually are laws regarding children and ATVs in Pennsylvania - but the laws don't appear to apply if they're operating on private property owned by a parent or guardian.

http://www.pa-conservation.org/atv_laws.html

IMO

That's very tragic. A young man that went to high school with my son died on an ATV about 4 years ago. He was on his own property, no helmet, going to fast and hit a tree. He was brain dead for 3 weeks before his parents had to make the choice to take him off the machines. I just couldn't imagine that pain.

I really wish Jon would think about his children first and be safe.

MHO

daniel green

11-09-2009, 02:26 PM

Oh dear....I didn't notice that. Lucky there wasn't a speeding taxi coming along the street.....the way they tear around in NYC is incredible.

JMO

No kidding.

Or a police officer to give him the big ole ticket for it.

daniel green

11-09-2009, 02:26 PM

FOTFLMBO! I can't breathe... :lol: I can't breathe!!!!

:lol:

For real, a what not to do in a short few seconds of videotape.

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 02:27 PM

:lol: Puts the paper back! What a class act, huh? Great example for the children, I must say. :rolleyes:

I'm thinking Kate should be falling to her knees along about now and saying "Thank you, God for getting him out of my life!"

Jon should write a song titled, "What about me?...What about me? What about meeeeeee." :sad: He has issues and he's getting scary.

Hold on...When i'm standing in line at the grocery store i pick up a magazine (usually bridal magazines ) flip through them and put them back...Is that wrong? am i a bad parent or grandparent for doing that?

Casecase

11-09-2009, 02:36 PM

That's very tragic. A young man that went to high school with my son died on an ATV about 4 years ago. He was on his own property, no helmet, going to fast and hit a tree. He was brain dead for 3 weeks before his parents had to make the choice to take him off the machines. I just couldn't imagine that pain.

I really wish Jon would think about his children first and be safe.

MHO

I know what you're saying . . . I know someone who was in a similar accident, but on a snowmobile. Very tragic and heartbreaking.

IMO

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 02:40 PM

I know what you're saying . . . I know someone who was in a similar accident, but on a snowmobile. Very tragic and heartbreaking.

IMO

IMO there should be a law that if you are under 21 you have to wear a helmet.........

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 02:40 PM

Hold on...When i'm standing in line at the grocery store i pick up a magazine (usually bridal magazines ) flip through them and put them back...Is that wrong? am i a bad parent or grandparent for doing that?

IMO Flipping through, maybe to consider buying, a magazine is one thing. Actually reading the newspaper or magazine is another. Makes me wonder if Jon does this frequently since his face has been in so many. When I go to buy a magazine and it has obviously been read, it kinda bugs me because it seems like I'm paying full price for something that is used.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 02:42 PM

IMO there should be a law that if you are under 21 you have to wear a helmet.........

IIRC, the Gosselin children usually wear helmets when riding their bikes, so why not on the ATV?

JMO

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 03:15 PM

IIRC, the Gosselin children usually wear helmets when riding their bikes, so why not on the ATV?

JMO

Great question. Wish i knew the answer to that one.

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 04:09 PM

Exactly!! He is just adding to the lawsuit. He can not pretend ignorance of his TLC contract.

Wonder when he is off on his solo pleasure trip to Hawaii. Can you all just imagine what would be happening if Kate was taking such a trip?

Well, according to TMZ he was supposed to be attending a wedding in Hawaii this past weekend. Guess that wasn't true since he was with the children. We'll just have to wait and see if he actually goes.

http://www.tmz.com/page/3/#

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 04:24 PM

Just another reason why Kate should be awarded that house and the right to make the choices on what goes on there and who is let on to the property. Jon will probably end up having his custody being supervised so he can not pull off stunts like this. I doubt these antics are getting passed Kate and her attorneys.

Even with a good Family Law Attorney, Jon will have a hard time against Kate. Last I checked, Jon had no representation at all. He is up a creek without a paddle......or a helmet.

I just don't understand why Jon seems to be jeopardizing his children's safety (no helmets) and his future (apparently no attorney to represent him either in the divorce in PA or the lawsuit in Maryland).

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 05:05 PM

Me either! It is just the same as the way he is constantly jeopardizing those kids mentally with all his stunts. Does the guy not worry about anything?? Hailey and Jon have both said that he is mentally abusing her because of all his problems. So surely he is aware of them......yet he chooses to wake up everyday and dig his hole deeper. Cutting off his nose to spite his face.......

Gosh, my twins are not perfect but Jon sure does make them look it. I do not care what age they are, if they just pulled antics like Jon pulls in one day.....THEY WOULD NEED A HELMET....cause I would be smacking them all over the place. Jon seemed to have no one to keep him in check now with Kate out of the picture.

Good point Mnchkin, I had not thought about him being in need of a Lawsuit Attorney.......Duhhhhhh! And the court date is in Dec. He will try to stall.......but how.......with no attorney?

THANK GOD THOSE KIDS HAVE KATE!!

I suppose one attorney might be okay....if he/she could practice law in both PA and Maryland. Not sure how that works. Somehow, though, I think I would want a specialist in each area of the law.

JMO

Casecase

11-09-2009, 05:32 PM

Exactly!! He is just adding to the lawsuit. He can not pretend ignorance of his TLC contract.

Wonder when he is off on his solo pleasure trip to Hawaii. Can you all just imagine what would be happening if Kate was taking such a trip?

I actually wonder if he is getting advice to continue on with the appearances. If he suddenly stops doing them because of the lawsuit, would he be tacitly implying that TLC is right? If he takes the position that he has done nothing wrong, then why would he stop doing them?

IMO

birdwatch

11-09-2009, 05:33 PM

Well, according to TMZ he was supposed to be attending a wedding in Hawaii this past weekend. Guess that wasn't true since he was with the children. We'll just have to wait and see if he actually goes.

http://www.tmz.com/page/3/#

JMO Phillies' Victorino on Nov 14th. Did he accept the invitation? Maybe he's going on a private plane with Victorino?

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 05:51 PM

daniel green

11-09-2009, 06:32 PM

IIRC, the Gosselin children usually wear helmets when riding their bikes, so why not on the ATV?

JMO

It appears their father is not as safety-conscious as their mother.

daniel green

11-09-2009, 06:35 PM

daniel green

11-09-2009, 06:37 PM

TLC's lawyers have asked the court for permission to serve Kate with a subpoena, ordering her to testify along with other witnesses -- including Michael Lohan and Hailey Glassman -- in depositions scheduled for December 10.

Kate reportedly quit her job at Star Magazine to pursue a relationship with Jon. Last we checked, the Octopop denied ever having a relationship with her.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/09/jon-gs-major-pain-shes-gettin-served/#ixzz0WPOATrRp

daniel green

11-09-2009, 07:00 PM

Jon Gosselin is counter suing TLC for 5 million dollars, RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively. The reality TV star is the defendant in a breach of contract lawsuit from the cable network and now will file his own lawsuit. Jon is facing a preliminary injunction hearing in Maryland court on December 14 and, as RadarOnline.com reported exclusively, he will be forced to testify. But now Jon and his team of Hellers (Mike and Mark) have decided the best defense is an offense. In the past they have contended that Jon was not adequately represented when he signed his TLC contract. TLC is represented by Washington, D.C. law firm Williams & Connolly.
Story developing…

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-jon-gosselin-will-sue-tlc

When is Jon going to get a real lawyer? :blink:

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 07:06 PM

IIRC the wedding is this coming weekend.

TMZ posted the info on Friday, Nov. 7th and said "this weekend." IMO that would have meant the next two days. Since it didn't happen this weekend, obviously that was incorrect. Guess we will have to wait and see if it happens this coming weekend.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 07:10 PM

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/09/jon-gs-major-pain-shes-gettin-served/#ixzz0WPOATrRp

Yikes! When I first read your post, I thought you meant Kate Gosselin. Next time I'll read the link first and not jump to conclusions.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 07:14 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-jon-gosselin-will-sue-tlc

When is Jon going to get a real lawyer? :blink:

Hmmm...Kate seemed to have effective enough counsel to understand the contract. What was Jon's problem? Actually, I don't think he had a problem then. I think he has a problem now (actually two of them) named Heller and Heller. Will be interested to see the court papers when they are filed.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 07:22 PM

TMZ posted the info on Friday, Nov. 7th and said "this weekend." IMO that would have meant the next two days. Since it didn't happen this weekend, obviously that was incorrect. Guess we will have to wait and see if it happens this coming weekend.

JMO

Oops...I was wrong. Sorry! Saturday was the 7th. But TMZ still said this weekend and I took it to mean that day and the next. Think they should have made it clearer.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 07:31 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-jon-gosselin-will-sue-tlc

When is Jon going to get a real lawyer? :blink:

Maybe someone can explain this to me. Why is Jon suing TLC because he doesn't think he was well represented in the negotations? Shouldn't he sue the person or people who represented him (since he did have representation)? How can TLC be blamed for Jon's choice of lawyer? I don't get it. Maybe it is simply the case of "the best defense is a good offense" scenario. Trouble is, IMO, there is nothing best or good about this.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 07:36 PM

Could she be far behind? She was under the same contract and did quite well with it. She ought to know, if anyone, what Jon's understanding of the contracts was as well as info on their attorneys at that time. The same attorneys Jon denied ever having.

Now if they can just fit the self confessed Nanny/Lover into the pic, it will be a full house.

Don't you think it would be awfully hard on Kate G. to make her testify?...even though she probably could say a great deal. Hopefully, TLC has enough evidence without her.

JMO

cantstandnuts

11-09-2009, 07:48 PM

Picture this! Levi Johnston, Jon Gosselin together in Times Square

http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/11/09/2009-11-09_picture_this_levi_johnston_jon_gosselin_togethe r_in_times_square.html#ixzz0WNgDhxc1

I have to wonder why Jon can't just lay low and stop doing this kind of stuff.

This guy has lost it. He just doesn't care about anything but himself, that's becoming more than obvious.

He's sinking his ship. Kate's gonna rake him over the coals and he doesn't seem to get it...or care. It's like he's completely lost any control he may have had. Someone keeps bringing up bipolar...maybe they're right, because he seems bent on self destruction and his antics are just way out there at this point.

So, I'd say Kate is winning the battle and will also win the war. That bothers me, though, have to say that, because IMO, she's mean and I feel bad for the children being raised alone by her.

cantstandnuts

11-09-2009, 07:52 PM

Don't you think it would be awfully hard on Kate G. to make her testify?...even though she probably could say a great deal. Hopefully, TLC has enough evidence without her.

JMO

Somehow, I don't think this would bother her a bit. It's all about the prize, afterall and I'm sure she is going to try to get as much as she can out of all of this. Kate's tough, she can handle it. Besides, nobody she ever gets interviewed by ever asks her any tough questions...I'd say it's about time!

cantstandnuts

11-09-2009, 07:54 PM

[QUOTE=Mnchkin426;13627900]Don't you think it would be awfully hard on Kate G. to make her testify?...even though she probably could say a great deal. Hopefully, TLC has enough evidence without her.

JMO[/QUOT

Well any opposing attorney will point out that she is acting as some kind of scorned women, but the question is how many times with how many witnesses will they have to do the same?? Just like if Jon gets up there and says over and over that every witness is lying about him. People start to see right through that. He has way too much explaining to do. Too many people like TLC that he has stepped on over and over.

Can you just imagine how much coaching would have to go into Jon taking the stand? They should of started a few years back......:lol:

This guy is such a loose cannon that he will no doubt sink himself without anyone's help. Gosh, could anyone BE any more stupid? They should have started coaching before he even met Kate!!

cantstandnuts

11-09-2009, 08:13 PM

Maybe she won't be as mean once Jon is actually gone from the picture as much as he can be what with 8 children to discuss. I think that guy may have driven her to distraction more than one time. I don't know that for a fact, so don't quote me. JMOHO

I am not quoting you (well, yeah I am but only to respond :tongue:) but I truly believe the Kate I saw on the show is the Kate who exists in reality...and I don't like her.

You know, in one article I read, she said she would never hit her kids, then we have pictures of her doing just that and justifying it. Which is it, Kate? You hit them or you don't? Pictures say you do...If you swat them to get their attention, why say you don't?

Far and away, it seems, Kate is the better parent here. That makes me quite sad for these kids.

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 08:17 PM

EXCLUSIVE: Jon Gosselin Will Countersue TLC For $5 Million!

But now Jon and his team of Hellers (Mike and Mark) have decided the best defense is an offense. In the past they have contended that Jon was not adequately represented when he signed his TLC contract. TLC is represented by Washington, D.C. law firm Williams & Connolly.
Story developing…

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-jon-gosselin-will-sue-tlc

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 08:19 PM

I am not quoting you (well, yeah I am but only to respond :tongue:) but I truly believe the Kate I saw on the show is the Kate who exists in reality...and I don't like her.

You know, in one article I read, she said she would never hit her kids, then we have pictures of her doing just that and justifying it. Which is it, Kate? You hit them or you don't? Pictures say you do...If you swat them to get their attention, why say you don't?

Far and away, it seems, Kate is the better parent here. That makes me quite sad for these kids.

From everything i've heard, seen and read i really don't think either one of these people are great parents.

Mnchkin426

11-09-2009, 08:22 PM

EXCLUSIVE: Jon Gosselin Will Countersue TLC For $5 Million!

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-jon-gosselin-will-sue-tlc

What do you think of this J4A? We've been discussing it upthread....DG posted it earlier. I personally am waiting to see what any court papers might have to say. Hopefully RO will get ahold of them soon and post them.

JMO

cantstandnuts

11-09-2009, 08:24 PM

She's no one I could get along with, really. I don't think I could take much of her without getting a little defensive. Still and all, I'd rather she have the kids for now. If Jon gets some counseling and some lithium, there could be hope for him. :tongue:

So, are you the one who keeps posting that he may be bipolar? I didn't look back, just knew someone said it, but now that you mention Lithium...

I agree, she is the better parent. It just pains me that they have to have either, actually. :glare:

A little defensive? Heck, I'd be off the map defensive. And had she smacked me, I'd have smacked her back. Course, TLC wouldn't have liked that and the show would have been cancelled WAAAAY back had I been hubby. (my being female, of course, the show never would have started in the first place, LOL!)

So, the kids look good, I mean are dressed nice and clean, but OMG, do you know what that can lead to in a child, when clean and looking nice are the focus? I shudder, I mean, there ARE 8 of them!

cantstandnuts

11-09-2009, 08:27 PM

From everything i've heard, seen and read i really don't think either one of these people are great parents.

Gosh, me either J4A. I cannot stand Kate. I worry about these 8 small children, honestly...

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 08:40 PM

What do you think of this J4A? We've been discussing it upthread....DG posted it earlier. I personally am waiting to see what any court papers might have to say. Hopefully RO will get ahold of them soon and post them.

JMO

I honestly don't know what to think about it. I wonder if he has proof he tried to get out of his contract a long time ago. IMO he's just desperate........and will pull anything at this point but i guess time will tell.

MHO

cantstandnuts

11-09-2009, 08:47 PM

Yeah, I'm the one. He reminds me of my friend who was bi-polar when she hit the manic state of that disease she REALLY flipped out. She had that same look in her eyes...I can't explain it other than once you've seen it, it's kinda hard to forget.

I know Kate's kind of a putz, but I still like her better than Jon. Always did. Jon was so...milquetoasty. I just didn't trust the guy, but they SEEMED to be working up until a short time ago.

Apparently the camera's don't see everything, and if they do, they blink for America. Now they're not blinking and have finally shown that both of those people have clay feet. However, Kate's feet aren't quite so firmly mired in quicksand as are her soon to be ex-husbands'.

It's sad, but no one person can be blamed completely. I've been through a divorce and it takes two. Until you've lived with someone, you just never know what will be the final straw.

Okay, now I know who was saying it and I am starting to believe you may be right. Diagnosing on a forum is wrong, so let's get that straight, I am not diagnosing anyone. But, he's way out of control and doesn't seem to think he is. RED FLAG!

She, however, although she looks better right now, is still scary. Some of the stuff they actually showed on TLC made me cringe.

I just wish one of them would wake up, smell the coffee and get over themselves. 8 little ones depend on it.

cantstandnuts

11-09-2009, 08:49 PM

:lol:

Yeah, I'd have to do some wall-to-wall counseling with my kid/s if they acted like that, too. How embarassing, but the worst part is that he has not got clue one.

I'm glad those kids have Kate, too. She may be neurotic and straightforward, but you get no two-faced garbage with Kate, either. What you see is what you get.

With Jon, I wouldn't turn my back on that guy for a second. :chicken:

Bolding mine.

See, I don't believe that. And I am not glad they have Kate. I think she could be just as destructive as him, albeit in a totally different way.

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 09:00 PM

Bolding mine.

See, I don't believe that. And I am not glad they have Kate. I think she could be just as destructive as him, albeit in a totally different way.

I know exactly what you mean and i feel the same exact way.

daniel green

11-09-2009, 09:27 PM

daniel green

11-09-2009, 09:31 PM

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Kate 2.0's last words on the subject of Jon were something to the effect of "I'll be back!"........:lol:

OOPS. And she is.:scared:

daniel green

11-09-2009, 09:32 PM

Maybe someone can explain this to me. Why is Jon suing TLC because he doesn't think he was well represented in the negotations? snipped

Because he is listening to Heller and Heller who are, by the way, as we know, witnesses in the TLC law suit injuction hearing? :scared:

daniel green

11-09-2009, 09:37 PM

I wonder if he has proof he tried to get out of his contract a long time ago.

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What difference would that make?

daniel green

11-09-2009, 09:54 PM

As the divorce battle continues between Jon and Kate Gosselin, the father-of-eight is in New York City's Times Square talking to ET about his on-again, off-again girlfriend Hailey Glassman, who he says "changed my life." "Hailey and I are on a break. She's been very supportive of me. It was a turning point in my life, meeting Hailey. ... It really changed my life," Jon tells ET. Watch the video for more with the reality show dad, as he reveals why he's jet-setting off to Hawaii.
http://www.etonline.com/poll/2009/11/80779/index.html

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 10:01 PM

What difference would that make?

Did i say it would make a difference?
No i didn't. It was just a question and a thought.
At this point i don't think anything will help Jon as long as he's playing with the paps.

MHO

daniel green

11-09-2009, 10:12 PM

Did i say it would make a difference?
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I figured since you were commenting on something about the injunction hearing you thought it could.

I did find it difficult to comprehend how wanting to get out of a contract would be helpful in a breach of contract lawsuit. :huh:

daniel green

11-09-2009, 10:13 PM

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Which brings me to my next question:
Will Deanna be called to testify? As far as I am seeing, that is when he first broke his contract with TLC, running around with her was bad enough, but sneaking her to Utah on a TLC paid trip under the pretense that he is helping handicapped children........if that does not break a morals clause, I do not know what would.

I have to imagine that TLC would be negligent NOT to call her.

Then there is that brother of hers...:scared:

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 10:17 PM

I figured since you were commenting on something about the injunction hearing you thought it could.

I did find it difficult to comprehend how wanting to get out of a contract would be helpful in a breach of contract lawsuit. :huh:

I was just wondering if he had proof he tried to get out of contract since he said he had...I kind of doubt he tried to get out of his contract.

MHO

daniel green

11-09-2009, 10:20 PM

OMG, the brother:w00t:

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That one is a huge problem. As are those girls at the college party and the bars Jon went to all the time.

daniel green

11-09-2009, 10:21 PM

Johnston, 19, and Gosselin, 32, are set to appear on a panel for the syndicated entertainment show The Insider.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/jon-gosselin-has-run-in-with-levi-johnston-1970241

UGH. :rolleyes:

daniel green

11-09-2009, 10:27 PM

Good question, AB. :confused:

daniel green

11-09-2009, 10:33 PM

I guess I missed the college parties.

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http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/archive/2009/03/24/revealed-photo-of-jon-gosselin-with-college-girls.aspx

The incident in question reportedly occurred February 6 when Jon was allegedly at Mimi's martini bar in Huntington, PA, which is located three hours away from the new $1.3 million home he shares with his wife Kate and their eight children. While at the bar, Gosselin reportedly met some girls from Juniata College -- who subsequently invited him to a house party, where he proceeded to play beer pong.

http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/jon-&-kate-plus-8-star-jon-gosselin-denies-marriage-trouble-reports-8584.php

daniel green

11-09-2009, 10:34 PM

. Nothing like bringing your own media to upstage a wedding.

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No kidding. He met the Phillies guy on an episode of J and K +8. Bet that bride is rethinking that invitation. :scared:

Justice4all

11-09-2009, 10:39 PM

No kidding. He met the Phillies guy on an episode of J and K +8. Bet that bride is rethinking that invitation. :scared:

BBM...If she doesn't want him there wouldn't she just call and tell him that so it doesn't mess up her wedding?

Lavinya

11-10-2009, 12:07 AM

Why is diagnosing on a forum wrong? :confused: I love being an arm-chair shrink, counselor, lawyer, detective, or whatever on these boards. Lots of intelligent, intellectual people here and I'm always up for some quality exchange of ideas, however far-fetched. That's part of the beauty of the boards.

After all, if Jon were to read this, go to a doctor and admit himself for some intensive therapy, he may still be able to salvage some dignity by saying it wasn't his fault, he just went berserk. :wink:

Seriously, my friend was so far off the walls it wasn't even funny. No one knew wtheck was the matter with her, either. Like I said, I'd like Jon to be a little more mentally stable with 8 children under his influence.

I know what you mean Spy. I like to diagnose, prescribe AND send a bill! :laugh:

Have you guys seen this yet where the Glassman's are begging Jon to "let Hailey go"?
http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/11/09/fox411-exclusive-haileys-parents-beg-jon-to-dump-her/

daniel green

11-10-2009, 12:37 AM

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Have you guys seen this yet where the Glassman's are begging Jon to "let Hailey go"?
http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/11/09/fox411-exclusive-haileys-parents-beg-jon-to-dump-her/

What on earth????? :scared:

Why can't they just tell their own daughter to stop dating this man? :confused:

I wonder if that changes Jon's refrain about the Glassmans having stood by him and always been there, blah blah blah.

daniel green

11-10-2009, 12:40 AM

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If my groom-to-be invited Jon, my mom would never let me hear the end of it. I can just hear her now......."What kind of man are you marrying with friends like that"

I would be humiliated!

Me, too.

I can just imagine my thoughts on the subject if I found out that he was coming to one of my daughters' weddings.:cursing:

daniel green

11-10-2009, 12:44 AM

"Jon is very nervous now that he sees his entire trusted team and Michael Lohan being called on to testify,” the source close to Jon tells 411. “Michael was key in getting him to shut down Kate Plus 8, he visited Jon and pushed hard for Jon to hear his views on blocking Kate from getting the kids on a continued show. snipped :

Was Jon like the only person on the planet who didn't know what Lohan was about? Or how he'd been in prison? :scared:

Did you all hear Hailey talk bad about Lohan on the Insider last week?

daniel green

11-10-2009, 12:45 AM

Thanks DG!

EWWWWWWWWWW! I so do not get what anyone would see in some married guy......let alone with kids.........and EIGHT of them at that. It is pretty darn obvious he was never abused by Kate. He sure did find a way to do the town with all these young women. Pooooooor Jon!

They were still married at the time, too.

Of course, Jon apologized for this behavior on one of his first apologies. :rolleyes:

daniel green

11-10-2009, 01:07 AM

I certainly did! What about when Jon said he did not invite him Lohan over......HELLO! He let him in the gate! snipped

I think Hailey is still upset because Lohan and his g/f hosted Jon and Kate from Star Mag for the weekend and Lohan is that Kate's friend.

daniel green

11-10-2009, 01:57 AM

This week’s Jon & Kate Plus Eight was an hour-long clip-job: “Viewers’ Top Moments,” as voted by long-time J&K-watchers on TLC’s website. This was a smart programming decision. After so many weeks of Kate and TLC trying to make entertainment out of the muck of tabloid controversy, simply letting us watch old footage, when the Gosselins were unusual only in having eight kids, was pretty pleasurable. Those of us who’ve watched all five seasons remember sweet little scenes such as Alexis discovering she loved alligators (“aldergators,” she fan-famously called ‘em):

Jon, of course, was nowhere to be seen on-camera. But in one old clip, he reacted sharply when Kate was seen fussing and yelling at him as they tried to dress the kids for some outdoor activity. “When are you going to pull the stick out?” Jon snapped at his wife.Kate, in a new interview, said with a sigh, “Perhaps [that] was a sign of things to come.” Indeed.

http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/11/09/jon-amp-kate-plus-8-top-moments/

angiemomof4

11-10-2009, 07:31 AM

I doubt he ever tried to get out of his contract until he got caught with Deanna Hummel and the advertisers started to complain, causing TLC to try and save him from himself. He was not having any of it and his lust for young girls got the best of him. He said himself that TLC was trying to put him under "house arrest."

Which brings me to my next question:
Will Deanna be called to testify? As far as I am seeing, that is when he first broke his contract with TLC, running around with her was bad enough, but sneaking her to Utah on a TLC paid trip under the pretense that he is helping handicapped children........if that does not break a morals clause, I do not know what would.

I think I missed that episode. Just what exactly was Jon doing in Utah to help handicapped children? And why did he have to go all the way to Utah to help handicapped children? Aren't there handicapped kids in PA that he could help? :confused:

ish

11-10-2009, 08:20 AM

What on earth????? :scared:

Why can't they just tell their own daughter to stop dating this man? :confused:

I wonder if that changes Jon's refrain about the Glassmans having stood by him and always been there, blah blah blah.

my bold

I think she is of age to date anyone she wants. Unless they are supporting her, then they can threaten to cut her off financially. Off course, she's making money shilling her story to the press so she may not need any of her parents dollars right now.

Lavinya

11-10-2009, 08:24 AM

Dang. And all this time I could have sent a BILL, too? <STOLE YOUR CRYING>

If that were my daughter, I'd move her out of the country so fast it'd make everyone's head spin before I'd ask that selfish man for anything.

He's going to get her pregnant if they don't get her away from him, unless she's smarter than I give her credit for. It'll end up being Jon & Kate + 8 + Hailey + however many she gives birth to during their doomed relationship. :rolleyes:

:laugh: Oh heck yeah, send a bill... Just have a good collections department. :sneaky:

I imagine the Glassman family is on their ear from frustration. I would be cutting flips if my daughter dragged the likes of Jon home.

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 11:26 AM

Does anyone besides me wonder if Jon's 5 million dollar countersuit is really going to happen? Or, is it just bravado in hopes of getting TLC to back off? How can he even file without a Maryland licensed lawyer?

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 11:52 AM

Sounds like more bluff and bravado than anything. Jon's going to have to learn how to tighten his belt from now on, because I think the fun and games are going to be over very soon.

I hope the divorce will be final very very soon, so Jon will be solely responsible (money-wise) for all his actions/bills.

JMO

MiamiNice1

11-10-2009, 12:07 PM

I know what you mean Spy. I like to diagnose, prescribe AND send a bill! :laugh:

Have you guys seen this yet where the Glassman's are begging Jon to "let Hailey go"?
http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/11/09/fox411-exclusive-haileys-parents-beg-jon-to-dump-her/

Thanks for this link, Lavinya - just as the poor parents of Hailey have done, this is exactly something my husband and I would have done to try to get an adult daughter away from someone so TOXIC. You would think that Jon would feel he "owed" them for everything they've done and would want to show respect - but nope!

I cannot even imagine their horror in watching their daughter debase herself on National TV (ET with Mary Hart) like she did last week - 2 times.....they must be going through h3ll. A 10yr-senior to Hailey, balding, paunchy, emotionally-disturbed, immature, divorced w/8 kids....."man."

Between what he's done to his marriage, (8) kids, career and girlfriends, Jon is a one-man demolition derby.

Wow - I didn't know Lohan was instrumental in the ill-fated shut-down! He and Jon deserve each other! From the link:

“Michael was key in getting him to shut down Kate Plus 8..."

IMO

daniel green

11-10-2009, 01:27 PM

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Wow - I didn't know Lohan was instrumental in the ill-fated shut-down! He and Jon deserve each other! From the link:

IMO

And now Jon and Levi Jhonston together on The Insider. :blushing:

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 02:10 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-court-rules-tlc-can-depose-kate-major

Well, TLC got the ruling. This should be an interesting deposition.

JMO

birdwatch

11-10-2009, 02:28 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-court-rules-tlc-can-depose-kate-major

Well, TLC got the ruling. This should be an interesting deposition.

JMO
I would really like to know why she quit her job over a one night stand (or was it 2) with Jon - if that is, in fact, true. Perhaps she was allowed to resign instead of being fired. Wasn't he already with Hailey at that time?

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 02:38 PM

I would really like to know why she quit her job over a one night stand (or was it 2) with Jon - if that is, in fact, true. Perhaps she was allowed to resign instead of being fired. Wasn't he already with Hailey at that time?

I really don't think that whether or not they had an affair is going to be the issue here. I do think that TLC is interested in the ways in which Jon breached the contract and will ask Kate Major what she can verify about his dealings with the competition. If you look at the court papers on RO, TLC has listed a lot of possibilities.

JMO

cog1

11-10-2009, 02:58 PM

Justice4all

11-10-2009, 03:16 PM

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 03:19 PM

I didn't know that Nana Janet passed away! :crying:

Her funeral was to be held Nov 7th. Did Jon or Kate attend?

So Sad for her!!!

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/jon-and-kate-plus-eight-caregiver-died-2009211

I think the funeral was actually a week earlier. Don't know if either Jon or Kate attended.

http://www.legacy.com/ReadingEagle/Obituaries.asp?page=lifestory&personid=135144494

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 03:21 PM

I do not know. I was just wonder if there is a dollar amount that TLC is seeking from him.

No amount seems to be mentioned in the court papers but I think all TLC wants at this point is an injuction...... to stop Jon from appearing on competitive programs and breaching the contract in other ways.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 03:23 PM

I can't wait to hear what she has to say.........

Would be very interesting but I don't think the depositions will be made public. Now if the case gets to court....well, that would probably be a different story.

JMO

cog1

11-10-2009, 03:23 PM

I think the funeral was actually a week earlier. Don't know if either Jon or Kate attended.

http://www.legacy.com/ReadingEagle/Obituaries.asp?page=lifestory&personid=135144494

JMO

Just so sad she really adored those children. I often wonder what happened to those that were involved in the childrens lives.

Justice4all

11-10-2009, 03:26 PM

Would be very interesting but I don't think the depositions will be made public. Now if the case gets to court....well, that would probably be a different story.

JMO

ohhh come on you know it will leak out....

MHO

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 03:28 PM

Just so sad she really adored those children. I often wonder what happened to those that were involved in the childrens lives.

Very sad! Nana Janet was definitely special.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 03:31 PM

ohhh come on you know it will leak out....

MHO

Probably bits and pieces will. Have you ever seen a deposition.....usually very long, very boring....so I doubt we will see the entire thing. The only problem with bits and pieces, IMO, is that things will be taken out of context. Now, if the case goes to court and Kate M. testifies, that will be very interesting.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 03:49 PM

I think Jon's affairs and the lies he used to cover them up are going to be used to show bad character on his part. I also think they will be important to show just how far back he began breaking the TLC contract by violating the morals clause.

Keep in mind that when TLC announced they were suing Jon, his camp came out and made like he was the little guy being taken advantage by the big bully......David and Goliath type of thing. If a string of girls testify as to how he wined and dined them, made promises to them, took them to bed, dumped them, then lied about it to the media........who is going to look like the bully??

I do not think it will be reaching at all to include any of Jon's relationship. I think they will throw anything and everything they can at him. Most of us all remember the Zanida VS Casey lawsuit in Florida. I think we are going to see more of the same here.

You may be right. I guess it will depend on what parts of the contract TLC decides to focus on.....maybe all. Just have to wait and see.

JMO

Justice4all

11-10-2009, 04:12 PM

Probably bits and pieces will. Have you ever seen a deposition.....usually very long, very boring....so I doubt we will see the entire thing. The only problem with bits and pieces, IMO, is that things will be taken out of context. Now, if the case goes to court and Kate M. testifies, that will be very interesting.

JMO

oh yeah very long and some times boring...Just finished reading the Anthony's depos.

daniel green

11-10-2009, 05:07 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-court-rules-tlc-can-depose-kate-major

Well, TLC got the ruling. This should be an interesting deposition.

JMO

In a previous court filing TLC noted that Jon is free to go back to his Information Technologies job to earn a living.

Well, there ya go.

daniel green

11-10-2009, 05:07 PM

Probably bits and pieces will. Have you ever seen a deposition.....usually very long, very boring....so I doubt we will see the entire thing. snipped

Yep. Not from a civil case we won't.

daniel green

11-10-2009, 05:09 PM

Would be very interesting but I don't think the depositions will be made public. Now if the case gets to court....well, that would probably be a different story.

JMO

Yep, that's right.

daniel green

11-10-2009, 05:10 PM

No amount seems to be mentioned in the court papers but I think all TLC wants at this point is an injuction...... to stop Jon from appearing on competitive programs and breaching the contract in other ways.

JMO

Right. Not to get money from Jon.

MiamiNice1

11-10-2009, 06:18 PM

In a previous court filing TLC noted that Jon is free to go back to his Information Technologies job to earn a living.

Well, there ya go.
HAHA! :lol: That was the funniest part of the article. TLC must have had a good laugh when they wrote that.

Can you just imagine Jon going back to his IT job he couldn't hold down to begin with? Would Hailey and the paps still love him then?

imo

daniel green

11-10-2009, 06:22 PM

HAHA! :lol: That was the funniest part of the article. TLC must have had a good laugh when they wrote that.

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You bet they did!!!!!!!! It was priceless.

Justice4all

11-10-2009, 06:45 PM

cute picture of niecy nash with jon.....I hope she wasn't sucked in to his charm

http://www.imnotobsessed.com/2009/11/10/jon-gosselin-plans-to-countersue-tlc-

Lavinya

11-10-2009, 06:56 PM

cute picture of niecy nash with jon.....I hope she wasn't sucked in to his charm

http://www.imnotobsessed.com/2009/11/10/jon-gosselin-plans-to-countersue-tlc-

Get away, Niecy! :scared: I like you too much!

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 07:07 PM

Right. Not to get money from Jon.

Do you think that will change once TLC gets the preliminary injunction.....i.e will TLC eventually sue for damages? My feeling is that they will not (1) since they seem to just want the contract to be honored; (2) Jon doesn't have that much money; (3) damages would probably punish the children and Kate as well...IMO not good for a future professional relationship.

Of course, I have no idea what TLC's reaction will be if Jon does file a countersuit for the 5 million.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 07:33 PM

Would be like Mary Hart going back to her first job......:lol:

3 Things I want to know about Jon Gosselin:

1) How will the wedding, and more importantly, reception go in Hawaii?

2) Who all will be on the TLC witness list and what do they know that we do not?

3) Where the heck will he spend Thanksgiving and during which course will the fighting begin?

About going to Hawaii.....I hope Jon does get to visit with his family while he is there. Unfortunately, he didn't mention doing so when he said he was leaving on Thursday.

JMO

cantstandnuts

11-10-2009, 07:40 PM

Why is diagnosing on a forum wrong? :confused: I love being an arm-chair shrink, counselor, lawyer, detective, or whatever on these boards. Lots of intelligent, intellectual people here and I'm always up for some quality exchange of ideas, however far-fetched. That's part of the beauty of the boards.

After all, if Jon were to read this, go to a doctor and admit himself for some intensive therapy, he may still be able to salvage some dignity by saying it wasn't his fault, he just went berserk. :wink:

Seriously, my friend was so far off the walls it wasn't even funny. No one knew wtheck was the matter with her, either. Like I said, I'd like Jon to be a little more mentally stable with 8 children under his influence.

Well, no disrespect intended, but plenty have tried diagnosing Kate and they get the response that doing so is a "disservice" (sp?) to all those who truly suffer from said condition. So, I just assumed that meant diagnosing everyone in this case. Maybe it just means diagnosing Kate and Jon is free game and not wrong. :tonguewag:

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 07:50 PM

Just glad he won't be visiting me :lol:.

He did say his mom and her hubby are going along.

I missed that. Well then he may well be planning to visit family. Do you have any idea how long he will be gone? It's a super long trip from NYC.

JMO

Ionmhainn

11-10-2009, 07:58 PM

Well, no disrespect intended, but plenty have tried diagnosing Kate and they get the response that doing so is a "disservice" (sp?) to all those who truly suffer from said condition. So, I just assumed that meant diagnosing everyone in this case. Maybe it just means diagnosing Kate and Jon is free game and not wrong. :tonguewag:

LOL! Sure seems that way, doesn't it. Even when Kate is fussing and yelling, Jon's retort is the only thing noted. (It did seem to be a viewer favorite though. :wink:)

No wonder the guy is like a kid in a candy store when it comes to decision making. He's probably like an East German after the wall came down, lol! What?? I can do what "I" want to do instead of going along with the (royal) "we" decided- this-that-or-the-other. He'll calm down eventually.

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 08:27 PM

I do not know when he will return. He sure does seem to be spending less time with his kids..........Starting to think that is not such a bad thing for them.

Not sure about that. IMO it's best that children have both a Mom and a Dad in their lives.

JMO

Ionmhainn

11-10-2009, 08:31 PM

Only if the East Germans were able to freely go over the wall and party it up at will in the bars, after hour houses and ski trips with hot young girls, college coeds and school teachers.

As one smart poster once said "Jon sure does know how to break away with a certain flair!" :biggrin:

Obviously Kate was not making all the decisions.

Lol! Not any more.

Justice4all

11-10-2009, 08:35 PM

I do not know when he will return. He sure does seem to be spending less time with his kids..........Starting to think that is not such a bad thing for them.

There are photos weekly with Jon with the children. Picking them up at school, on the ATV and at the house.

Those children really seem to love both parents why would you want one parent out of their lives?

Justice4all

11-10-2009, 08:36 PM

Not sure about that. IMO it's best that children have both a Mom and a Dad in their lives.

JMO

ITA....I may not agree with things Jon and Kate have done but i sure don't want them taken out of their childrens lives. I think that would cause more harm then good.

MHO

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 08:47 PM

ITA....I may not agree with things Jon and Kate have done but i sure don't want them taken out of their childrens lives. I think that would cause more harm then good.

MHO

I really shouldn't speak for AB but....I don't think she was suggesting that Jon be completely taken out of his children's lives.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 08:56 PM

Justice4all

11-10-2009, 08:57 PM

I really shouldn't speak for AB but....I don't think she was suggesting that Jon be completely taken out of his children's lives.

JMO

what did she mean? She just wants Jon to spend less time with the children? If that's the case why are people complaining he doesn't spend enough time with them already? Color me confused.

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 08:58 PM

what did she mean? She just wants Jon to spend less time with the children? If that's the case why are people complaining he doesn't spend enough time with them already? Color me confused.

Think you had better ask her.

JMO

Justice4all

11-10-2009, 08:59 PM

http://www.popeater.com/2009/11/10/jon-gosselin-holidays/

It looks like Kate and Jon have worked out the arrangements for Thanksgiving and for Christmas. Hopefully it will be fun for the children and the paps will stay far, far away.

JMO

wow i've never heard of a divorced couple doing this..

What are your plans for Christmas?
Christmas Eve and Christmas day are joint-shared custody days, which means we're both in the house. So we'll be there.

have you?

Justice4all

11-10-2009, 09:00 PM

I've never heard of the Jon Gosselin Children's foundation have y'all?

Mnchkin426

11-10-2009, 09:03 PM

wow i've never heard of a divorced couple doing this..

have you?

I've heard of all sorts of arrangements. Think this should make the children happy. Isn't that most important?

JMO

Justice4all

11-10-2009, 10:13 PM

I've heard of all sorts of arrangements. Think this should make the children happy. Isn't that most important?

JMO

Of course that's the most important thing...I've just never heard of a divorcing couple do that...

Justice4all

11-10-2009, 10:15 PM

Thanks Mnchkin.........that is exactly right.

I would really like to see Jon straighten up and if only he would quit talking to the Paps at school bus stops and whatnot. I hate seeing them being followed around all the time. All he does is keep them coming back for more.

I have also been wondering about Jon's anger issues and hoping it is only Hailey he is taking his frustrations out on. Not that it is right for him to abuse anyone, but she is an adult and can leave if she wants.

Do you worry about Kate's temper?

daniel green

11-11-2009, 12:16 AM

cute picture of niecy nash with jon.....I hope she wasn't sucked in to his charm

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That was on the set of The Insider, and she was very negative to and about him on the show.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 12:18 AM

Do you think that will change once TLC gets the preliminary injunction.....i.e will TLC eventually sue for damages? My feeling is that they will not (1) since they seem to just want the contract to be honored; (2) Jon doesn't have that much money; (3) damages would probably punish the children and Kate as well...IMO not good for a future professional relationship.

Of course, I have no idea what TLC's reaction will be if Jon does file a countersuit for the 5 million.

JMO

I don't think TLC would ask for damages in term of dollars. Just keep him off the tabloid shows and paid appearances at pools and bars.

TLC won't care if Jon files any such suit. It is ridiculous on its face.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 12:19 AM

About going to Hawaii.....I hope Jon does get to visit with his family while he is there. Unfortunately, he didn't mention doing so when he said he was leaving on Thursday.

JMO

I don't think Jon knows/is close with any of his family there, is he? Remember those ppl invited to their vow-renewal? Some of them had not seen Jon, EVER, and some had not seen him since he was a little boy. They do not appear to be a close family.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 12:24 AM

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No wonder the guy is like a kid in a candy store when it comes to decision making. He's probably like an East German after the wall came down, lol! What?? I can do what "I" want to do instead of going along with the (royal) "we" decided- this-that-or-the-other. He'll calm down eventually.

Really? Marriage vows are akin to communist control and having a govt shoot citizens who tried to go over the wall?

daniel green

11-11-2009, 12:25 AM

Only if the East Germans were able to freely go over the wall and party it up at will in the bars, after hour houses and ski trips with hot young girls, college coeds and school teachers.

snipped.

Oh, indeed.

Actually, to compare marriage vows to East Germans after the wall is troubling to me.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 12:59 AM

Now I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel because I've never ran [one] before. .

Laughed out loud.

Spelling is not his only problem...

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:01 AM

Nope!

Apples and oranges!

very true... Jon yells loses his temper with adults and Kate loses hers with her children. Did you not read the articles about what all the former nanny had to say about her drinking, slapping the children with spoons and becoming way too friendly with her bodyguard?

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:03 AM

I don't think Jon knows/is close with any of his family there, is he? Remember those ppl invited to their vow-renewal? Some of them had not seen Jon, EVER, and some had not seen him since he was a little boy. They do not appear to be a close family.

up until about five years ago i had a LOT of family in Italy i had never met face to face but that sure doesn't mean were not a close family.:cursing:

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:05 AM

Why is there a ski trip in the works?

umm how would i know? Call Jon and ask him.....:sneaky:

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:07 AM

Really? Marriage vows are akin to communist control and having a govt shoot citizens who tried to go over the wall?

Have you ever been married to Katie?..........I can see how the two can be compared.

MHO

onlykaty

11-11-2009, 01:09 AM

very true... Jon yells loses his temper with adults and Kate loses hers with her children. Did you not read the articles about what all the former nanny had to say about her drinking, slapping the children with spoons and becoming way too friendly with her bodyguard?

I don't beleive all I read. I think Jon and Kate both love their children, its just a shame its all open to the public eye. Yes, I know when they done show they opened themselves up to the public and their opinions. Honestly none of us know for sure the whole story, I'm just hoping things work out the best they can for the children, whatever that may be..jmo

Ionmhainn

11-11-2009, 01:24 AM

Really? Marriage vows are akin to communist control and having a govt shoot citizens who tried to go over the wall?

Now, don't put your words in my mouth. :wink:

Perhaps, DG, if you didn't snip so many posts you would realize that was an ...obvious... joke. But, I think you know that. Analogy. Out from under a thumb, in other words.

I was talking about the confusion and bewilderment of suddenly having freedom of choice.

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:27 AM

I don't beleive all I read. I think Jon and Kate both love their children, its just a shame its all open to the public eye. Yes, I know when they done show they opened themselves up to the public and their opinions. Honestly none of us know for sure the whole story, I'm just hoping things work out the best they can for the children, whatever that may be..jmo

I feel the same way.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:31 AM

Perhaps, DG, if you didn't snip so many posts you would realize that was an ...obvious... joke.

snipped.

Oh, sorry. I had no idea it was a joke. :sad: Being very cognizant of the actual history and losses of that wall and what East Germans suffered, I simply did not think it was a joke.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:32 AM

Have you ever been married to Katie?..........I can see how the two can be compared.

MHO

I take it that's rhetorical? :huh:

And, no, anyone who has a passing knowledge of the history of East Germany and the human suffering knows there is absolutely no comparion between what they endured and marriage vows.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:35 AM

Former "Jon and Kate Plus 8" star Jon Gosselin was reportedly thrown out of his own house over the weekend. Jon told "The Insider" during Tuesday night's episode that at about 11:00 p.m. Kate showed up and apparently started to "throw [his] luggage at the door." Among the contents were Jon's clothing and his laptop.

http://www.examiner.com/x-11363-Dallas-TV-Examiner~y2009m11d10-Jon-and-Kate-Plus-8-Jon-Gosselin-has-breakdown-with-Kate-at-home

Ionmhainn

11-11-2009, 01:39 AM

Oh, sorry. I had no idea it was a joke. :sad: Being very cognizant of the actual history and losses of that wall and what East Germans suffered, I simply did not think it was a joke.

My joke was about "after the wall came down." If you are familiar with the history, you should also know that there was quite an adjustment period. As there is after any major life change. :wink:

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:41 AM

OH MY.......The Holidays have started a little early I see.

Jon is off to another story about mean Kate--what, just a week after his lated repenting with Boteach? :huh:

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:43 AM

http://www.examiner.com/x-11363-Dallas-TV-Examiner~y2009m11d10-Jon-and-Kate-Plus-8-Jon-Gosselin-has-breakdown-with-Kate-at-home

Typical kate showing her famous temper........MHO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:46 AM

I take it that's rhetorical? :huh:

And, no, anyone who has a passing knowledge of the history of East Germany and the human suffering knows there is absolutely no comparion between what they endured and marriage vows.

She said AFTER THE WALL CAME DOWN....did you miss that part?:rolleyes:

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:47 AM

Ionmhainn

11-11-2009, 01:57 AM

Except in Jon's case his adjustment period started long before any wall came down. Looks to me like he had too much freedom if anything. Just look what he has done with it.

Yes, I think he was "done" long before any legal proceedings.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:58 AM

Yes, I think he was "done" long before any legal proceedings.

So much for those vows.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 02:00 AM

I have a funny feeling there is much more to this story. Wonder how much he got paid to tell it? Guess he has to get money for his foundation somewhere.

Waiting for the Insider to come on here.

I have it taped. Lemme fast forward it and see what he says.

And, as it is a story from Jon on The Insider, I would wager one would have to take it with a whole ocean-full of salt. :scared: You know, like he only too 22K and TLC had him on house arrest and all those stories.

As per the TLC pleadings he gets paid very well from the gigs at ET and the Insider.

Ionmhainn

11-11-2009, 02:05 AM

So much for those vows.

Yep, that old love and...cherish...(to treat with affection and tenderness) thing. I must agree that they didn't do so well with that one.

G'night.....

daniel green

11-11-2009, 02:19 AM

Yep, that old love and...cherish...(to treat with affection and tenderness) thing. I must agree that they didn't do so well with that one.

G'night.....

Good times and in bad...forsaking all others...

daniel green

11-11-2009, 02:26 AM

Ionmhainn

11-11-2009, 02:30 AM

Good times and in bad...forsaking all others...

Yes, multiple promises broken. But, imo, cherishing was the first one to bite the dust. Minus that, the other ones aren't far behind.....

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 02:33 AM

*snipped* One asked what cartoon's voice Kate should do, if she does get to to voices in animated films, Jon said "Cruella de ville, she has the part down."

ITA she's been acting like Cruella for years now.....MHO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 02:37 AM

Good times and in bad...forsaking all others...

what about the whole love and honor thing? Katie never honored Jon...She treated him like dirt IMO

Casecase

11-11-2009, 07:08 AM

very true... Jon yells loses his temper with adults and Kate loses hers with her children. Did you not read the articles about what all the former nanny had to say about her drinking, slapping the children with spoons and becoming way too friendly with her bodyguard?

Why do you insist on saying this is a former nanny, like it gives these allegations some credibility, when the National Enquirer article does not say that? It's an unnamed ex-staffer. That could be anyone . . . if it's even a real person. Kinda hard to fact check that without a name or even a job title.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/66820

IMO

Casecase

11-11-2009, 07:11 AM

How much does katie get paid to have her pity parties?

Has she been on any tabloid TV shows lately? I remember her on the Today Show and Larry King and her own TLC shows (which she's under contract to do) . . . but I don't recall her being on any of those paid tabloid shows.

IMO

Casecase

11-11-2009, 07:17 AM

Just watched the portion the Insider about Jon. First they had the pics of the kids on the 4 wheeler and Lara said the country is angry that he had them on there, and without helmets. Jon said he was fine, he is responsible, he has a 24 acre farm and he's handling it. Star jones asked "why no helmets?" Jon: "I am responsible. They don't wear bike helmets either." :scared: SJones upset. Then they had a call in vote/poll about it. In the meantime, Niecey went out to the crowd in Times Sq and asked a few ppl who were angry at Jon for doing this and placing the kids in danger, perhaps of a brain injury. Jon won't budge.

Later, phone poll comes back over 75% say Jon is placing kids in danger.

Next, he tells the story that Kate got there at 11pm and wanted him out STAT and was pushing his stuff toward the door. "I pay the mortgage there." Yeah? Right.

Next, questions from Times Sq crowd. One asked why he doesn't stop doing tv. Jon: TV is my career and he's good at it and has lots of offeres. One asked what he regrets most. Jon: dating while still married. One asked what cartoon's voice Kate should do, if she does get to to voices in animated films, Jon said "Cruella de ville, she has the part down."

So, ixnay on the repent agenda, is my guess.

So I would say it doesn't look like Jon has any plans to go back to IT anytime soon. If he can make a career off of TV, good for him because I'm sure it will pay better than IT . . . it would just be nice if that TV career could be on shows besides Insider or ET.

I really wish he would think before he speaks sometimes. He just can't go around saying his apologies and then turn right around and call his ex Cruella de Ville. That feeds the fire. It would be a funny comment to make around your buds but not quite so much funny on national TV.

IMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 07:26 AM

Why do you insist on saying this is a former nanny, like it gives these allegations some credibility, when the National Enquirer article does not say that? It's an unnamed ex-staffer. That could be anyone . . . if it's even a real person. Kinda hard to fact check that without a name or even a job title.

http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/66820

IMO

Not true.......... her name is Angela Krall.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kate-Gosselin-Is-a-Selfish-Monster-Nanny-Reveals-121086.shtml

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 07:30 AM

So I would say it doesn't look like Jon has any plans to go back to IT anytime soon. If he can make a career off of TV, good for him because I'm sure it will pay better than IT . . . it would just be nice if that TV career could be on shows besides Insider or ET.

I really wish he would think before he speaks sometimes. He just can't go around saying his apologies and then turn right around and call his ex Cruella de Ville. That feeds the fire. It would be a funny comment to make around your buds but not quite so much funny on national TV.

IMO

I think i heard the person ask him what cartoon villain voice would kate be good at... I'll try to see if it's on youtube.

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 07:35 AM

Has she been on any tabloid TV shows lately? I remember her on the Today Show and Larry King and her own TLC shows (which she's under contract to do) . . . but I don't recall her being on any of those paid tabloid shows.

IMO

are you saying LK and the TS doesn't pay people for interviews? because that's really not true...they love to say they don't pay but they do buy home video's and photos....and Katie's still getting paid by TLC....sooooo sounds like she's being paid to talk. She's just not doing it on tabloid tv.

and didn't Jon also go on LKL? :rolleyes:

mho

angiemomof4

11-11-2009, 07:36 AM

So I would say it doesn't look like Jon has any plans to go back to IT anytime soon. If he can make a career off of TV, good for him because I'm sure it will pay better than IT . . . it would just be nice if that TV career could be on shows besides Insider or ET.

I really wish he would think before he speaks sometimes. He just can't go around saying his apologies and then turn right around and call his ex Cruella de Ville. That feeds the fire. It would be a funny comment to make around your buds but not quite so much funny on national TV.

IMO

Not only does it feed the fire, but does this man EVER stop to think about how much his words will hurt his kids someday when they google his name and read them??? :mad:

Casecase

11-11-2009, 07:38 AM

Not true.......... her name is Angela Krall.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Kate-Gosselin-Is-a-Selfish-Monster-Nanny-Reveals-121086.shtml

I think you're confusing two different articles. Angela Krall didn't say that Kate drinks, slaps the children with spoons and was way too friendly with her bodyguard. Even at the bottom of the link you posted, it talks about a "staffer" who said those things.

IMO

Casecase

11-11-2009, 07:40 AM

I think i heard the person ask him what cartoon villain voice would kate be good at... I'll try to see if it's on youtube.

Just because he was asked doesn't mean he had to answer it - especially not in that fashion!

IMO

Casecase

11-11-2009, 07:43 AM

are you saying LK and the TS doesn't pay people for interviews? because that's really not true...they love to say they don't pay but they do buy home video's and photos....and Katie's still getting paid by TLC....sooooo sounds like she's being paid to talk. She's just not doing it on tabloid tv.

and didn't Jon also go on LKL? :rolleyes:

mho

Sure they buy home videos and photos . . . have the Today Show and LKL been showing purchased home videos and photos?

And yes, Jon was on LKL . . . but he's also making a career out of being on the tabloid TV shows.

IMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 08:06 AM

Sure they buy home videos and photos . . . have the Today Show and LKL been showing purchased home videos and photos?

And yes, Jon was on LKL . . . but he's also making a career out of being on the tabloid TV shows.

IMO

Well Jon needs a job....so i'm glad he's working.
I've given up hope on either one of these worthless parents getting real jobs.

MHO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 08:19 AM

I think you're confusing two different articles. Angela Krall didn't say that Kate drinks, slaps the children with spoons and was way too friendly with her bodyguard. Even at the bottom of the link you posted, it talks about a "staffer" who said those things.

IMO

ohhh right AK talks about Kate's darker side. God bless her and the other staffers for coming forward and talking about what all they've seen. I hope they are call to testify in court.

MHO

Casecase

11-11-2009, 08:30 AM

ohhh right AK talks about Kate's darker side. God bless her and the other staffers for coming forward and talking about what all they've seen. I hope they are call to testify in court.

MHO

Yep, Angela sure did talk about the dark side of perfectionism, what with Kate having detailed rules for the employees and being concerned about cross-contamination.

As I posted a long time ago, I do wonder how Angela can talk about Kate's current frame of mind seeing as how she was the baby nurse and hasn't been around in some time.

Besides Angela Krall and the unnamed staffer (who wouldn't be able to testify in court since they're unidentified), who else has come forward?

IMO

Casecase

11-11-2009, 08:39 AM

Well Jon needs a job....so i'm glad he's working.
I've given up hope on either one of these worthless parents getting real jobs.

MHO

I consider TV to be as real a job as a 9-5 office job so if one or both of them can make a go of it, more power to them. I just don't understand, if Jon is getting a bunch of offers, why is he not taking them and instead continues on with the tabloid TV stuff?

IMO

Lavinya

11-11-2009, 08:51 AM

Jon wants to go back to a simpler life:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/11/jon-gosselin-goes-back-in_n_353428.html

Lavinya

11-11-2009, 09:52 AM

Loved the earring removal. :rolleyes: How touching.

What a slubberdegullion. :angry: He can go back in time all he wants. I didn't like him then, either. Namby, pamby, whiney, lazy slug of a man. The guy has no sense of pride. None.

Those poor, innocent, little kids. What a legacy. <STOLE YOUR SAD>

I can't quite reconcile that he is going back to a simpler time by having this filmed and placed on "Funny or Die". :rolleyes: What a CHILD and not a cute one either.

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 11:02 AM

http://www.examiner.com/x-11363-Dallas-TV-Examiner~y2009m11d10-Jon-and-Kate-Plus-8-Jon-Gosselin-has-breakdown-with-Kate-at-home

I didn't see what night this supposedly happened. Does anyone know? Kinda interesting that Jon didn't mention it until Tuesday....wasn't he on The Insider on Monday as well?

JMO

angiemomof4

11-11-2009, 11:15 AM

I didn't see what night this supposedly happened. Does anyone know? Kinda interesting that Jon didn't mention it until Tuesday....wasn't he on The Insider on Monday as well?

JMO

I'm wondering what the heck he did to get thrown out? :laugh:

cantstandnuts

11-11-2009, 11:34 AM

Now, don't put your words in my mouth. :wink:

Perhaps, DG, if you didn't snip so many posts you would realize that was an ...obvious... joke. But, I think you know that. Analogy. Out from under a thumb, in other words.

I was talking about the confusion and bewilderment of suddenly having freedom of choice.

bold mine.

ITA

Reminds me of some of the kids I went to college with whose parents had up to that point, been in complete control of everything their kids did. They get a bit of freedom and run amock, some of them flunking out early on because they didn't know how to handle it. The ones who didn't flunk out eventually settled down, they just had to get it out of their systems. Reminds me of Jon. I don't know if he's going to settle down, though, I mean, he's out there! He may be one of the ones who "flunks out."

birdwatch

11-11-2009, 12:17 PM

I'm wondering what the heck he did to get thrown out? :laugh: I'm sure Kate will have something to say about it to someone in the media. Can't wait, lol.
On and on it goes: just can't make this stuff up!

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 12:45 PM

I'm wondering what the heck he did to get thrown out? :laugh:

Maybe he overstayed his custody time.

JMO

birdwatch

11-11-2009, 12:54 PM

Truth is always stranger than fiction, so they say. Who are "they", I wonder? :confused:

Yeah, Kate should be on soon, looking wan and sad, hair more soft, her demeanor a little more subdued. We all know the games that are being played. Kate is still a TLC darling, having lived up to her end of the contract, and they'll be portraying her in as good a light as possible. Good. She's going to need a lot of money to keep them in the style to which they have all become accustomed. (sp)

Don'tcha just love the media??? They'll make 'em and break 'em and leave 'em layin' there to bleed without a backward glance.

I hope Jon and Kate will learn to love their children more than they hate each other. :sad: Well said, Spyder. That is a hope that even Justice4all and daniel green agree on. I hope - lol.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:14 PM

Thanks DG....His sentence will be changed to "had" a 24 acre farm, in part for stupid things he is doing while there with those kids. What the heck difference does it make how many acres there are? He always deflects, like we are so dumb we are going to think that makes it okay.

Hey, I wonder if that is what the fight was over. Perhaps he had promised to put them in helmets and she some how found out he did not.

ALWAYS tries to deflect. It never works, but he charges on ahead with it.

What he actually said in the show was not that Kate threw his stuff out but that she "was moving my stuff toward the door." :rolleyes:

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:16 PM

are you saying LK and the TS doesn't pay people for interviews? snipped

They do not pay. Neither does the Ellen show, Oprah, etc.

Only tabloid shows such as ET and the Insider and Extra pay.

MiamiNice1

11-11-2009, 01:16 PM

Jon wants to go back to a simpler life:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/11/jon-gosselin-goes-back-in_n_353428.html
:lol: This was hilarious! Too bad he doesn't mean it or it just might be a good start for him. Now, all he has to do is SHUT UP, and like the article said, "move back to the same zip code as his kids."

How hard would that be?? :rolleyes:

imo

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:17 PM

Not only does it feed the fire, but does this man EVER stop to think about how much his words will hurt his kids someday when they google his name and read them??? :mad:

And didn't he just repent for all this not two Sundays ago in that payperview atonement thing?

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 01:17 PM

ALWAYS tries to deflect. It never works, but he charges on ahead with it.

What he actually said in the show was not that Kate threw his stuff out but that she "was moving my stuff toward the door." :rolleyes:

Did he say when and why? Certainly moving his stuff toward the door is way different than throwing things out the door. Sounds like media exaggeration once again.

JMO

MiamiNice1

11-11-2009, 01:18 PM

Loved the earring removal. :rolleyes: How touching.

What a slubberdegullion. :angry: He can go back in time all he wants. I didn't like him then, either. Namby, pamby, whiney, lazy slug of a man. The guy has no sense of pride. None.

Those poor, innocent, little kids. What a legacy.

:laugh: BBM - that word should win some kind of PRIZE!!! lolol!

That look he gives his removed CZs and to the bikin-clad girl's chest looks positively MANIC. <shudder>

imo

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:19 PM

I consider TV to be as real a job as a 9-5 office job so if one or both of them can make a go of it, more power to them. I just don't understand, if Jon is getting a bunch of offers, why is he not taking them and instead continues on with the tabloid TV stuff?

IMO

IIRC Jon's still under contract with TLC till Feb so that might be the reason he hasn't taken another job

MHO

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 01:21 PM

IIRC Jon's still under contract with TLC till Feb so that might be the reason he hasn't taken another job

MHO

But he is taking on other jobs.....with the tabloids.....they pay.

JMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:21 PM

I'm wondering what the heck he did to get thrown out? :laugh:

With Katie all he probably had to do was BREATHE.............MHO

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:22 PM

Jon wants to go back to a simpler life:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/11/jon-gosselin-goes-back-in_n_353428.html

LAUGHED OUT LOUD!!!!! :laugh: That Cher song killed me.

Yes, Jon Gosselin's road to redemption is paved with bikini-clad women telling him how much they'll miss him and a montage in which he throws out all his hair products. We're pretty sure this makes us hate him more.

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:25 PM

They do not pay. Neither does the Ellen show, Oprah, etc.

Only tabloid shows such as ET and the Insider and Extra pay.

Not true my friend............The Today Show pays for photos and video they call it "licensing fee for photos"...No wonder Katie was on there. MHO

An NBC spokesperson tells TVNewser, "NBC News does not pay for interviews. NBC News paid a nominal licensing fee for photos, which is very common in the industry."

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/nbc/more_caylee_anthony_photos_more_licensing_98181.as p

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:26 PM

snipped

People can say what they want about Kate. Yeah, she's a B, but you don't see her doing carp like THIS. How ludicrous it would be to see her doing the exact same thing. Standing with a half naked man as he tells her he'll miss her. How would that go over, I wonder?

.

You said it all right there.

I see this video as Exibit A at the custody hearing.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:28 PM

Not true my friend............The Today Show pays for photos and video they call it "licensing fee for photos"...No wonder Katie was on there. MHO

snipped ]

Absolutely NOT.

My daughter's worked for NBC knews for 10 yrs.

I was on the Today show in 1993 and they showed all kinds of pics and vids from my holistic program for children and my family and didn't get a dime for it.

NEWS organizations do not pay. The Today Show doesn't pay. LKL doesn't pay.

Period.

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:29 PM

Yep, Angela sure did talk about the dark side of perfectionism, what with Kate having detailed rules for the employees and being concerned about cross-contamination.

As I posted a long time ago, I do wonder how Angela can talk about Kate's current frame of mind seeing as how she was the baby nurse and hasn't been around in some time.

Besides Angela Krall and the unnamed staffer (who wouldn't be able to testify in court since they're unidentified), who else has come forward?

IMO

Just because they are unnamed in a article doesn't mean they will be unnamed in a custody hearing. I'm sure Jon has a long list of employees that will come forward and talk about everything they saw... MHO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:31 PM

Absolutely NOT.

My daughter's worked for NBC knews for 10 yrs.

I was on the Today show in 1993 and they showed all kinds of pics and vids from my holistic program for children and my family and didn't get a dime for it.

NEWS organizations do not pay. The Today Show doesn't pay. LKL doesn't pay.

Period.

LMBO.....I just gave you an article where they talk about paying for Licensing fee. Why don't you stop snipping post and read the articles people put up....

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:32 PM

snipped
That look he gives his removed CZs and to the bikin-clad girl's chest looks positively MANIC. <shudder>

imo

Didn't it? He has been doing that a lot. Where you can see the whites of his eyes around the iris--which used to be a way to diagnose mental illness, if all of it shows.

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:33 PM

LMBO.....I just gave you an article where they talk about paying for Licensing fee. Why don't you stop snipping post and read the articles people put up....

Laugh all you want. And I have seen that posted in the Caylee forum a billion times. However, as I said, actually having been on the Today show and having a daughter who has worked long time as a producer for NBC news, I can assure you that no money is paid.

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:38 PM

Laugh all you want. And I have seen that posted in the Caylee forum a billion times. However, as I said, actually having been on the Today show and having a daughter who has worked long time as a producer for NBC news, I can assure you that no money is paid.

OMG did you read the article...NBC said they paid them.... and they do pay licensing fee for video's and photo's. Maybe they started doing that after you went on their.

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 01:39 PM

LMBO.....I just gave you an article where they talk about paying for Licensing fee. Why don't you stop snipping post and read the articles people put up....

Could you provide a link explaining the circumstances of a licensing fee and who receives the fee, please?

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 01:44 PM

OMG did you read the article...NBC said they paid them.... and they do pay licensing fee for video's and photo's. Maybe they started doing that after you went on their.

Maybe the licensing fee for photos and videos were paid to the producers of those items. Probably TLC in this case.

JMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:45 PM

Could you provide a link explaining the circumstances of a licensing fee and who receives the fee, please?

JMO

It's become the norm these days for morning shows and shows like Larry King Live to pay a licensing fee for photos, video's and music.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/nbc/more_caylee_anthony_photos_more_licensing_98181.as p

An NBC spokesperson tells TVNewser, "NBC News does not pay for interviews. NBC News paid a nominal licensing fee for photos, which is very common in the industry."
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http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/nbc/more_caylee_anthony_photos_more_licensing_98181.as p

Just like when Katie did her interview last week and she laid out the school photo's "like baseball cards" IMO she was paid a licensing fee for doing that....

MHO

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:45 PM

OMG did you read the article...NBC said they paid them.... and they do pay licensing fee for video's and photo's. Maybe they started doing that after you went on their.

You truly do not understand what licensing fees are about or who gets them.

That's OK. And, no, things have not changed since I was on it. As I said, my daughter has been an exec producer for NBC news for eons and her husband is an NBC photo-journalist.

You certainly do not have to believe that they don't pay, but I can assure you that they don't.

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:46 PM

Maybe the licensing fee for photos and videos were paid to the producers of those items. Probably TLC in this case.

JMO

You don't think Katie got ANY of the money for showing off the childrens school photo's?

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:47 PM

It's become the norm these days for morning shows and shows like Larry King Live to pay a licensing fee for photos, video's and music.

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Music everyone has always had to pay for, because of rights.

But no morning show or news show pays for photos or videos. :rolleyes:

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 01:50 PM

Music everyone has always had to pay for, because of rights.

But no morning show or news show pays for photos or videos. :rolleyes:

Then why in the world did an NBC spokeperson LIE about it?

Quote:
An NBC spokesperson tells TVNewser, "NBC News does not pay for interviews. NBC News paid a nominal licensing fee for photos, which is very common in the industry."

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/...sing_98181.asp

daniel green

11-11-2009, 01:51 PM

Did he say when and why? Certainly moving his stuff toward the door is way different than throwing things out the door. Sounds like media exaggeration once again.

JMO

He said he was sleeping with one of the girls, can't remember which one, and Kate got home and she was moving his stuff TOWARD the door and he said HE could move his stuff toward the door.

No fight, no throwing stuff out, none of that.

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 01:53 PM

He said he was sleeping with one of the girls, can't remember which one, and Kate got home and she was moving his stuff TOWARD the door and he said HE could move his stuff toward the door.

No fight, no throwing stuff out, none of that.

Makes better sense. Guess Jon fell asleep and did overstay his custody time. Seems very minor to me.

JMO

MiamiNice1

11-11-2009, 02:14 PM

IIRC wasn't it something like $20,000 they finally admitted to being paid?
The $20,000 was from 48 Hours....for licensing, videos, pictures, etc. that appeared this October.

IIRC, Jose Baez (Casey) also received $235,000 last year for the pictures from another Network.

imo

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 02:24 PM

Does anyone have a link or anything to the Anthonys being paid $20K by anyone? If so, if you'd be so kind as to PM to me so I can shoot it off to Megan and have her answer it.

Thanks!

CBS pays $20,000 for family photos, video

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/orl-loccasey-anthony-hearing-101709101709oct17,0,7321596.story

MiamiNice1

11-11-2009, 02:30 PM

CBS pays $20,000 for family photos, video

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/orl-loccasey-anthony-hearing-101709101709oct17,0,7321596.story
Cindy Anthony also admitted to the $20,000 in her deposition this past July 2009 for the CBS 48 Hour show. (page 39 in the Caylee Anthony Link Thread)

imo

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 02:32 PM

ABC had been willing to pay as much as $100,000 related to an exclusive first post-jail sitdown Barbara Walters was confident was hers until NBC offered nearly $1 million for a session with “Today” co-anchor Meredith Vieira. Then Ms. Hilton granted a phone interview to E! Entertainment anchor Ryan Seacrest, who aired his story Thursday night.

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2007/06/larry_king_schedules_paris_hil.php

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 02:53 PM

I never said she was............
I just ASKED if she was.........

You might want to go back and read how this all got started. :thumbsup:

You inferred that Kate was paid in this post #266. So, I'm asking if you have any proof that this is true. JMO

Quote:
Originally Posted by daniel green
They do not pay. Neither does the Ellen show, Oprah, etc.

Only tabloid shows such as ET and the Insider and Extra pay.

Justice4All

Not true my friend............The Today Show pays for photos and video they call it "licensing fee for photos"...No wonder Katie was on there. MHO

Quote:
An NBC spokesperson tells TVNewser, "NBC News does not pay for interviews. NBC News paid a nominal licensing fee for photos, which is very common in the industry."

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/...sing_98181.asp
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cog1

11-11-2009, 02:59 PM

Get away, Niecy! :scared: I like you too much!

I like her alot also! I sure hope she told him what a HOT MESS he has going on with his life!!

BTW, Good Afternoon Everyone!!

Happy Veterans Day to All!!

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 03:10 PM

You inferred that Kate was paid in this post #266. So, I'm asking if you have any proof that this is true. JMO

Quote:
Originally Posted by daniel green
They do not pay. Neither does the Ellen show, Oprah, etc.

Only tabloid shows such as ET and the Insider and Extra pay.

Justice4All

Not true my friend............The Today Show pays for photos and video they call it "licensing fee for photos"...No wonder Katie was on there. MHO

Quote:
An NBC spokesperson tells TVNewser, "NBC News does not pay for interviews. NBC News paid a nominal licensing fee for photos, which is very common in the industry."

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/...sing_98181.asp
__________________
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Prayer is talking to god, meditation is listening to God.
I never said Kate was paid....
I was responding to this post...

They do not pay. Neither does the Ellen show, Oprah, etc.

Only tabloid shows such as ET and the Insider and Extra pay.

and i've already posted a link on here show The Today Show and other shows do pay for "licensing fee's "

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 03:14 PM

I never said Kate was paid....
I was responding to this post...

and i've already posted a link on here show The Today Show and other shows do pay for "licensing fee's "

What did you mean by "no wonder Katie was on there"?

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 03:37 PM

Do you have proof they are paying him?

Well, according to the TLC court filing they are.

Page 8 of the Memorandum: "The evidence establishes that Mr. Gosselin has.......
Taken substantial payments to appear on celebrity gossip television programs such as 'Entertainment Tonight' and 'The Insider';"

Somehow I don't think that TLC would lie to the court in its filing.

Oh....didn't you see my JMO...to play your game?

JMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 03:45 PM

Well, according to the TLC court filing they are.

Page 8 of the Memorandum: "The evidence establishes that Mr. Gosselin has.......
Taken substantial payments to appear on celebrity gossip television programs such as 'Entertainment Tonight' and 'The Insider';"

Somehow I don't think that TLC would lie to the court in its filing.

Oh....didn't you see my JMO...to play your game?

JMO

play my game? what in the world are you talking about?
and i have NO idea if TLC would lie or not.

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 03:48 PM

He said he was sleeping with one of the girls, can't remember which one, and Kate got home and she was moving his stuff TOWARD the door and he said HE could move his stuff toward the door.

No fight, no throwing stuff out, none of that.

Not true DG........

Jon told "The Insider" during Tuesday night's episode that at about 11:00 p.m. Kate showed up and apparently started to "throw [his] luggage at the door." Among the contents were Jon's clothing and his laptop.

http://www.examiner.com/x-11363-Dallas-TV-Examiner~y2009m11d10-Jon-and-Kate-Plus-8-Jon-Gosselin-has-breakdown-with-Kate-at-home

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 05:05 PM

EXACTLY DG!!
He was on the Insider and he said NONE of it.

Jon never said she threw anything. Never said there was a fight. Never even said there was any kind of conflict at all.

Guess the Examiner just had to make the incident more exciting. I guess the truth is never good enough.

JMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 05:16 PM

Guess the Examiner just had to make the incident more exciting. I guess the truth is never good enough.

JMO

the Examiner quoted Jon correctly I watched him on the Insider last night.

mho

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 05:20 PM

the Examiner quoted Jon correctly I watched him on the Insider last night.

mho

Interesting.....two other posters seem to have seen or heard it differently. Could you post a link to the show so I can see for myself?

JMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 05:33 PM

Interesting.....two other posters seem to have seen or heard it differently. Could you post a link to the show so I can see for myself?

JMO

They don't have it on their site...and i've already posted a link that "quoted" Jon.......Sorry if you don't like the proof i provided.

Maybe you can ask Daniel and Angel to prove what they are saying...

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 05:41 PM

They don't have it on their site...and i've already posted a link that "quoted" Jon.......Sorry if you don't like the proof i provided.

Maybe you can ask Daniel and Angel to prove what they are saying...

If anyone can provide a link to the show I would appreciate it. And, no, I don't trust the Examiner's quote. There have been too many misquotes in the media for my taste, so if given the opportunity, I would rather hear it for myself. Sorry if you have a problem with that.

JMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 05:54 PM

If anyone can provide a link to the show I would appreciate it. And, no, I don't trust the Examiner's quote. There have been too many misquotes in the media for my taste, so if given the opportunity, I would rather hear it for myself. Sorry if you have a problem with that.

JMO

I don't have a problem with that. I just find it odd you were questioning my link when no one else has provided any proof at all.

Casecase

11-11-2009, 06:01 PM

If memory serves me (which isn't a guarantee anymore, so correct me if I'm wrong, lol), on Kate's Today Show interview, I think the only video footage they showed was from TLC. So if anyone was paid a licensing fee for the use of video, I'm thinking it would be TLC.

IMO

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 06:04 PM

I don't have a problem with that. I just find it odd you were questioning my link when no one else has provided any proof at all.

Well you and the reporter on the Examiner say you heard one thing and two posters on this board say they heard something different. I don't place any more weight on the reporter's story than anyone else's, so it becomes a two to two tie IMO. So, I would like to hear what Jon said with my own ears.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 06:05 PM

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 06:07 PM

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 06:09 PM

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 06:10 PM

Well you and the reporter on the Examiner say you heard one thing and two posters on this board say they heard something different. I don't place any more weight on the reporter's story than anyone else's, so it becomes a two to two tie IMO. So, I would like to hear what Jon said with my own ears.

JMO

I really wish The Insider kept video's on their site from the day before.
I'm looking though.........

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 06:19 PM

Sorry my browser here is blocking Youtube for some reason. Go there and do a search and it should be up by now. You really should see it including how everyone on the show and the audience came down on Jon for riding those sweet little kids helmet-less on the ATVs.

Jon as usual tried to deflect peoples concerns with a bunch of mumble, jumble, smoke and mirrors. Very, very sad!! They even did a poll from the home viwers trying to convince Jon to change his mind. Most everyone agreed Jon is jepordizing those poor little kids safety. NOTHING anyone could say to him worked!! I would not be suprised if we do not see some sort of court action to stop him pronto.

I suspect the guy will end up loosing everthing just over his careless ways with those dear children. Something needs to be done.

Thanks for the suggestion AB. Doesn't seem to be there yet. Oh well, maybe tomorrow.

JMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 06:23 PM

Did you see the show? If you did WHAT did you see? TIA.....

Yes ma'am i sure did. Jon talks about sleeping with Leah and Kate come home and threw his stuff near the front door, he talks about she threw his laptop and he got upset and said if you want me out i could get all my stuff and get out. I've even posted a link that said almost the same thing.

I never heard Jon say Kate "was moving my stuff toward the door." Sorry but Jon's really not that nice. IMO the man has no class.........

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 06:26 PM

Thanks for the suggestion AB. Doesn't seem to be there yet. Oh well, maybe tomorrow.

JMO

Yep i keep checking and can't find anything. I thought Jon saying Kate should do the voice for Cruella de Ville because she has that down pat was just tacky.

MHO

Casecase

11-11-2009, 06:27 PM

and TLC pays Katie right?

So how far down the line do you take this? I guess it could be said that I paid Kate to be on the Today Show then. Because Kate was paid by TLC (for film that they took months ago, not knowing it would be used on the Today Show) who was paid by NBC who was paid by Advertiser X who was paid by me when I bought their product.

IMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 06:30 PM

I can't believe there aren't any gossip rag sites talking about Jon saying Cruella DeVille last night. So far all i can find is Jon spoofing himself.

Casecase

11-11-2009, 06:32 PM

I can't believe there aren't any gossip rag sites talking about Jon saying Cruella DeVille last night. So far all i can find is Jon spoofing himself.

I know, I've been looking, too! This has to be a first!

IMO

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 06:32 PM

So how far down the line do you take this? I guess it could be said that I paid Kate to be on the Today Show then. Because Kate was paid by TLC (for film that they took months ago, not knowing it would be used on the Today Show) who was paid by NBC who was paid by Advertiser X who was paid by me when I bought their product.

IMO

Does sound like a perfectly reasonable progression and conclusion if you want to follow that route. Makes sense to me.

JMO

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 06:34 PM

I can't believe there aren't any gossip rag sites talking about Jon saying Cruella DeVille last night. So far all i can find is Jon spoofing himself.

Do you suppose he was paid for that spoof? Was really bad IMO.

JMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 06:34 PM

I know, I've been looking, too! This has to be a first!

IMO

yeah i'm pretty shocked it's not on youtube or any of the gossip rags.

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 06:37 PM

Do you suppose he was paid for that spoof? Was really bad IMO.

JMO

I don't think they pay. (but i'm not sure )

A lot of celebrities do spoofs for that website. I loved the Denise Richards one LOL

Glad to see he could laugh at himself like Kate laughed at herself on Leno.

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 07:08 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/exclusive-documents-tlc-broke-law-jon-gosselin-charges-new-court-papers

Here we go, folks! Haven't read the papers yet but they sound very interesting.

JMO

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 07:10 PM

Then you were watching a different show than I was. That is not the way it went down at all.

Oh really? Well i saw the same thing that was stated in the article so why don't you show me what was really said.:smile:

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 07:12 PM

Justice4all

11-11-2009, 07:16 PM

In a never before aired out take from TLC's Kate Her Story the single mom of 8 gushes about her love for her children and how she wouldn't be able to function without them in her life.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-kate-gosselin-wouldnt-get-out-bed-without-kids

Is Kate afraid she's going to lose custody?

Mnchkin426

11-11-2009, 08:30 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/11/video-kate-gosselin-wouldnt-get-out-bed-without-kids

Is Kate afraid she's going to lose custody?

Good grief! Why on earth would you say such a thing? Kate is simply expressing how much she loves her children and how important they are to her. Many people use the expression "I wouldn't get out of bed if it weren't for....."

JMO