11/4, 11/5

[Sun]

Good morning everyone! The defense has their job to do, and will no doubt get used to hearing a lot of "denied" from Judge Strickland. Perhaps by the time that the trial finally gets underway, Casey will have been made to realize that she will not only be held accountable for her actions, but will also have to endure the punishment handed down to her by the jury/judge.

For now, society is safe from Casey and her wicked ways.

[trich]

IMO there should be no one that can get past the fact that Casey
never reported her daughter missing...Cindy reported Caylee missing after 31 days.
No Casey partied, stole and bought clothes and got a tattoo etc. all while Caylee was "missing."
That fact alone I hope is mentioned every day of the trial just in case some juror could possibly forget and imagine how any mother could do what Casey did.
I also do not understand how anyone could even suggest that another did this horrible deed just with all that most of us know already ....goodness knows what has not been released.
Heck Cindy and George do not even believe another person murdered
Caylee...they might say it but they continue to tell
Stories that if they even thought about it make them look so foolish.

[Sun]

IMO there should be no one that can get past the fact that Casey
never reported her daughter missing...Cindy reported Caylee missing after 31 days.
No Casey partied, stole and bought clothes and got a tattoo etc. all while Caylee was "missing."
That fact alone I hope is mentioned every day of the trial just in case some juror could possibly forget and imagine how any mother could do what Casey did.
I also do not understand how anyone could even suggest that another did this horrible deed just with all that most of us know already ....goodness knows what has not been released.
Heck Cindy and George do not even believe another person murdered
Caylee...they might say it but they continue to tell
Stories that if they even thought about it make them look so foolish.
That 31 days is a biggie. The numerous lies to friends, family, and LE about the whereabouts of Caylee is another. And, I can think of absolutely no way that the defense will be able to explain away the smell of a dead body in the trunk of Casey's car. In my way of thinking, those three elements directly links Casey to Caylee's death.

And, I do hope that a Jury will hear about Casey "selling" pictures of the Caylee after her death.

[desmom]

Brought over from earlier thread:
US outrage over toddler death play Tot Mum
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26303425-401,00.html

The Sydney Theatre Company said it will not profit from the play and that Soderbergh will be donating his fee to the National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children.

[Deannalynn]

That 31 days is a biggie. The numerous lies to friends, family, and LE about the whereabouts of Caylee is another. And, I can think of absolutely no way that the defense will be able to explain away the smell of a dead body in the trunk of Casey's car. In my way of thinking, those three elements directly links Casey to Caylee's death.

And, I do hope that a Jury will hear about Casey "selling" pictures of the Caylee after her death.

Baez seems to think or pretend they have something really big they plan to pull out of their hat when it comes to trial.
That makes him the worse defense attorney. With that, I sure wouldn't hire him to defend me. If I was sitting in jail for as long as Casey and my attorney was out there spewing this, I would be so angry that a trial was not already set for me. Baez is hoping for a miracle.
He is so full of it.
Casey is going down and so is George and Cindy.
Those two think they are untouchable. They all will end up going down before end of trial, I'm thinking.

I also think the Anthony's will dissappear into their low life selves before this trial gets started. The media is about sick of them along with the public. It will be interesting when the state calls them on numerous lies they have thrown out there since all this happened.

[desmom]

IMO there should be no one that can get past the fact that Casey
never reported her daughter missing...Cindy reported Caylee missing after 31 days.
No Casey partied, stole and bought clothes and got a tattoo etc. all while Caylee was "missing."
That fact alone I hope is mentioned every day of the trial just in case some juror could possibly forget and imagine how any mother could do what Casey did.
I also do not understand how anyone could even suggest that another did this horrible deed just with all that most of us know already ....goodness knows what has not been released.
Heck Cindy and George do not even believe another person murdered
Caylee...they might say it but they continue to tell
Stories that if they even thought about it make them look so foolish.

I agree. I hope the jury is reminded throughout the trial Casey did not report Caylee missing, Cindy did.

How long could Casey have played out the Caylee is with the nanny stories IF George and Cindy had not received the notice from the tow yard?

If Casey had been up to date on the ins and outs of a tow, she could have intercepted the letter from Johnson Towing. If I understand it correctly and the car was not claimed, eventually it would have been sold by the tow yard.

IMO, Casey has an outta sight outta mind mentality. Caylee was outta sight. The car was no longer at Amscot. In Casey's eyes, Life was Good!

jmo

[desmom]

Baez seems to think or pretend they have something really big they plan to pull out of their hat when it comes to trial.
That makes him the worse defense attorney. With that, I sure wouldn't hire him to defend me. If I was sitting in jail for as long as Casey and my attorney was out there spewing this, I would be so angry that a trial was not already set for me. Baez is hoping for a miracle.
He is so full of it.
Casey is going down and so is George and Cindy.
Those two think they are untouchable. They all will end up going down before end of trial, I'm thinking.

I also think the Anthony's will dissappear into their low life selves before this trial gets started. The media is about sick of them along with the public. It will be interesting when the state calls them on numerous lies they have thrown out there since all this happened.


BBM - but, but Casey is going to be a celebrity and do Howard Stern and the national talk show circuit after she is acquitted and have nothing but praises for JB. They are both going to be famous doncha know. :tonguewag:

jmo

[summer]

I love when the defense pods come over here with their: but there was no *this* in the trunk and there was no *that* in the trunk! Great, because as soon as they start that in the courtroom that leaves the door wide open for the prosecutors to lay out what George and Cindy did to get rid of those missing pieces. Step by step the jury will hear how the car was cleaned out and with what chemicals. And a lot more. BRING IT ON because by the end of the trial the whole world is going to want the heads of these grieving grandparents on a stick. They think they're going to get away with it because like their spawn they only think 10 minutes at a time. Fortunately the SA has a longer memory span.

[powerball]

BBM - but, but Casey is going to be a celebrity and do Howard Stern and the national talk show circuit after she is acquitted and have nothing but praises for JB. They are both going to be famous doncha know. :tonguewag:

jmo

I fully except to start seeing the Grandparents either on "I am a celebrity get me out of here" or the Surrel Life. Of course I would really like to see them on "DR PHILS HOUSE". regardless of the outcome of this trial I truly think they believe that are highly sought after people. JMO of course

[powerball]

I love when the defense pods come over here with their: but there was no *this* in the trunk and there was no *that* in the trunk! Great, because as soon as they start that in the courtroom that leaves the door wide open for the prosecutors to lay out what George and Cindy did to get rid of those missing pieces. Step by step the jury will hear how the car was cleaned out and with what chemicals. And a lot more. BRING IT ON because by the end of the trial the whole world is going to want the heads of these grieving grandparents on a stick. They think they're going to get away with it because like their spawn they only think 10 minutes at a time. Fortunately the SA has a longer memory span.

Part of me also thinks that they have the opinion that people are stupid and will believe anything they say.

[Scampi]

I love when the defense pods come over here with their: but there was no *this* in the trunk and there was no *that* in the trunk! Great, because as soon as they start that in the courtroom that leaves the door wide open for the prosecutors to lay out what George and Cindy did to get rid of those missing pieces. Step by step the jury will hear how the car was cleaned out and with what chemicals. And a lot more. BRING IT ON because by the end of the trial the whole world is going to want the heads of these grieving grandparents on a stick. They think they're going to get away with it because like their spawn they only think 10 minutes at a time. Fortunately the SA has a longer memory span.

Jury selection is going to critical in this case. We need jurors with common sense who can think about the evidence that is presented, specifically why it is that cynthia and george cleaned out that death smelling car so thoroughly and why cynthia and george searched their own backyard, looking UNDER Caylee's playhouse.

I know I am looking forward to those explanations, and they better be REASONABLE.

[summer]

Part of me also thinks that they have the opinion that people are stupid and will believe anything they say.

Yes PB, and that too, for sure. Exactly like their daughter. If *they* say it it must be believed. Arrogance cubed.

[Scampi]

I fully except to start seeing the Grandparents either on "I am a celebrity get me out of here" or the Surrel Life. Of course I would really like to see them on "DR PHILS HOUSE". regardless of the outcome of this trial I truly think they believe that are highly sought after people. JMO of course

There's always the Springer show, but even Jerry has some standards........ IMO

[summer]

Jury selection is going to critical in this case. We need jurors with common sense who can think about the evidence that is presented, specifically why it is that cynthia and george cleaned out that death smelling car so thoroughly and why cynthia and george searched their own backyard, looking UNDER Caylee's playhouse.

I know I am looking forward to those explanations, and they better be REASONABLE.

Fortunately for justice in this case there are so many occurrences that defy logic, stronger than competing forensic experts, just everyday common sense, human nature things, she will not get away with this crime, and neither will her parents.

Unless there's a rogue juror who grew up under a rock or was raised in the woods by bears - or if there's one who wants to be a contrarian to the max.

If one of these somehow gets on the jury then there will be a re-trial and a re-trial after that. I truly believe there's no way Casey or her parents are going to escape justice. For once in their miserable lives they're going to be met by an unmoveable force.

I think the judge will keep things on track overall, once the trial starts. I try to have faith in the community too - even though after OJ it's not always easy. Keep hope alive!

[Sun]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21405276/detail.html

I wonder what is happening in regards to DCasey and his scheduled depo for the State? Did you all realize that DTennis is an Attorney for Casey Anthony? (look carefully at the wording under her signature) :ohmy:

[summer]

AND what is *missing* is going to be key. Interestingly, what her parents did to cover up the crime is going to hang her - and hopefully them. IMO.

[Spots]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21405276/detail.html

I wonder what is happening in regards to DCasey and his scheduled depo for the State? Did you all realize that DTennis is an Attorney for Casey Anthony? (look carefully at the wording under her signature) :ohmy:

Page 1: Attorney for Casey Anthony.
Page 2: Attorney for Dominic Casey

Do you detect a whiff of Conflict of Interest?

[Tia]

Baez seems to think or pretend they have something really big they plan to pull out of their hat when it comes to trial.
That makes him the worse defense attorney. With that, I sure wouldn't hire him to defend me. If I was sitting in jail for as long as Casey and my attorney was out there spewing this, I would be so angry that a trial was not already set for me. Baez is hoping for a miracle.
He is so full of it.
Casey is going down and so is George and Cindy.
Those two think they are untouchable. They all will end up going down before end of trial, I'm thinking.

I also think the Anthony's will dissappear into their low life selves before this trial gets started. The media is about sick of them along with the public. It will be interesting when the state calls them on numerous lies they have thrown out there since all this happened.

Oh, I hope you are right! I really feel that George and Cindy are just as responsible as Casey for what happened to Caylee.

[summer]

Page 1: Attorney for Casey Anthony.
Page 2: Attorney for Dominic Casey

Do you detect a whiff of Conflict of Interest?

Yes, and who was D Casey's first attorney? Conway. Either conflict of interest or yet another case of in-your-face arrogance. Like there aren't other attorneys in Orlando...

[summer]

Oh, I hope you are right! I really feel that George and Cindy are just as responsible as Casey for what happened to Caylee.

Me too, Tia! When you look at them you can see clearly they come from exactly the same mindset in every little detail. Their crimes differ but their MO is the same.

[Scampi]

Page 1: Attorney for Casey Anthony.
Page 2: Attorney for Dominic Casey

Do you detect a whiff of Conflict of Interest?

More then just a whiff, an intense stink. I was just reviewing some old video of people discussing this case and one of them had Tennis on, who opined that the accused babykiller was off mentally, iirc.

How many more lawyers are going to hop aboard the gravy train before this thing gets to the courtroom?

The casey anthony case is its own little stimulus bill down there in Florida, imo.

[Sun]

Page 1: Attorney for Casey Anthony.
Page 2: Attorney for Dominic Casey

Do you detect a whiff of Conflict of Interest?

Well, something is definately "off" about those two pages. I also noticed that DTennis stated that DCasey was "hired" by George and Cindy on Oct 17th. When in fact, the "contract" that I saw, wasn't signed until Oct 31. Sounds like a "lie" to the court, IMO.

DCasey never signed any agreement with NeJame, or even Conway, as far as I've detected. Not quite sure where he is getting that he worked for "legal teams representing George and Cindy." How can any "legal privilege" attach to George or Cindy?

[Spots]

Well, something is definately "off" about those two pages. I also noticed that DTennis stated that DCasey was "hired" by George and Cindy on Oct 17th. When in fact, the "contract" that I saw, wasn't signed until Oct 31. Sounds like a "lie" to the court, IMO.

DCasey never signed any agreement with NeJame, or even Conway, as far as I've detected. Not quite sure where he is getting that he worked for "legal teams representing George and Cindy." How can any "legal privilege" attach to George or Cindy?

Also ~conveniently~ overlooked was the formal termination of his agreement with Jose on Oct 14.

Nice try, though.

[Tia]

Me too, Tia! When you look at them you can see clearly they come from exactly the same mindset in every little detail. Their crimes differ but their MO is the same.

Exactly. Right down to what appears to be complete disregard for Caylee. The only concerns any of them seem to have are themselves.

JMO

[hello its me]

Exactly. Right down to what appears to be complete disregard for Caylee. The only concerns any of them seem to have are themselves.

JMO

you mean *that girl*. They can't even use her name. They are disgusting.

[need2no]

I know this sounds rather simplistic, but if D.Casey has legal contracts in order, and has nothing to hide, why is he fighting so hard to keep from being deposed by the State.

[hello its me]

I know this sounds rather simplistic, but if D.Casey has legal contracts in order, and has nothing to hide, why is he fighting so hard to keep from being deposed by the State.

And why, if he had all that did he cooperate with LE..surely the *privilege* would have attached then. Poor legal advice from the Con-man?

[Sun]

I know this sounds rather simplistic, but if D.Casey has legal contracts in order, and has nothing to hide, why is he fighting so hard to keep from being deposed by the State.

He knows what he's done, and clearly doesn't want the public or the State to know what he's done. Or perhaps he's "being paid" to keep his mough shut. DTennis may find that Judge Strickland is not so easy to fool.

[need2no]

And why, if he had all that did he cooperate with LE..surely the *privilege* would have attached then. Poor legal advice from the Con-man?

Casey has had over a year to witness the foolhardy words and actions of Baez, other attorney's, and the public's negative opinion of Jose and his ability as an attorney. If he chooses to take any advise from Baez there is no hope for the man, and he can count on finding himself up the creek without a paddle. But then again, birds of a feather........

[need2no]

He knows what he's done, and clearly doesn't want the public or the State to know what he's done. Or perhaps he's "being paid" to keep his mough shut. DTennis may find that Judge Strickland is not so easy to fool.

I keep wondering about the 'being paid' part, and I wouldn't be in the least shocked to learn this is true. Yes, I think Tennis will find Strickland is not a rollover Judge like Rodriquez. He will want to see facts/proof of what is being claimed. On the other hand Strickland is being very careful in every aspect to protect casey's rights to keep from having a mistrial, or legal grounds to dismiss, or appeal.

When Dom is finally deposed I think his depo will be a doozy to read.

[powerball]

I keep wondering about the 'being paid' part, and I wouldn't be in the least shocked to learn this is true. Yes, I think Tennis will find Strickland is not a rollover Judge like Rodriquez. He will want to see facts/proof of what is being claimed. On the other hand Strickland is being very careful in every aspect to protect casey's rights to keep from having a mistrial, or legal grounds to dismiss, or appeal.

When Dom is finally deposed I think his depo will be a doozy to read.

If the truth is told. Which I do not believe for one minute that these people are capable of the truth. JMO of course

[need2no]

If the truth is told. Which I do not believe for one minute that these people are capable of the truth. JMO of course

LOL...me either. I don't expect the truth to be told, but I still think it will be a doozy to read. Just like the numerous lies and inconsistencies in George, Cindy and Lee's depos.

[Darcy]

I agree. I hope the jury is reminded throughout the trial Casey did not report Caylee missing, Cindy did.

How long could Casey have played out the Caylee is with the nanny stories IF George and Cindy had not received the notice from the tow yard?

If Casey had been up to date on the ins and outs of a tow, she could have intercepted the letter from Johnson Towing. If I understand it correctly and the car was not claimed, eventually it would have been sold by the tow yard.

IMO, Casey has an outta sight outta mind mentality. Caylee was outta sight. The car was no longer at Amscot. In Casey's eyes, Life was Good!

jmo





Desmom, sorry if this has been discussed already. If Casey had been to the house in Hopespring Dr. to collect personal items, clothes or food, what would have happened if she saw the letter from the tow co. and intercepted it? If George or Cindy never received the notice, would the car have been destroyed? I don't know what the procedure is in Florida regarding abandoned cars.
I think your posts are very knowledgeable and act as a catalyst to provoke further thought, thanks for the brain poke :thumbup:

[aproudmom]

That 31 days is a biggie. The numerous lies to friends, family, and LE about the whereabouts of Caylee is another. And, I can think of absolutely no way that the defense will be able to explain away the smell of a dead body in the trunk of Casey's car. In my way of thinking, those three elements directly links Casey to Caylee's death.

And, I do hope that a Jury will hear about Casey "selling" pictures of the Caylee after her death.

BBM
I see them using the Ugly Coping Def. Wont work but I see it coming just like in the Cynthia Sommers case. JMO

[Scampi]

BBM
I see them using the Ugly Coping Def. Wont work but I see it coming just like in the Cynthia Sommers case. JMO

Oh yes, they'll get some "expert" up on the stand to yap about fugue states and all of that sort of thing, none of which applies to this accused babykiller, imo.

[need2no]

Desmom, sorry if this has been discussed already. If Casey had been to the house in Hopespring Dr. to collect personal items, clothes or food, what would have happened if she saw the letter from the tow co. and intercepted it? If George or Cindy never received the notice, would the car have been destroyed? I don't know what the procedure is in Florida regarding abandoned cars.
I think your posts are very knowledgeable and act as a catalyst to provoke further thought, thanks for the brain poke :thumbup:

I'm not desmom, but here is the Fl law (in part) regarding unclaimed vehicles:

6) Any vehicle or vessel which is stored pursuant to subsection (2) and which remains unclaimed, or for which reasonable charges for recovery, towing, or storing remain unpaid, and any contents not released pursuant to subsection (10), may be sold by the owner or operator of the storage space for such towing or storage charge after 35 days from the time the vehicle or vessel is stored therein if the vehicle or vessel is more than 3 years of age or after 50 days following the time the vehicle or vessel is stored therein if the vehicle or vessel is 3 years of age or less. The sale shall be at public sale for cash. If the date of the sale was not included in the notice required in subsection (4), notice of the sale shall be given to the person in whose name the vehicle or vessel is registered and to all persons claiming a lien on the vehicle or vessel as shown on the records of the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles or of the corresponding agency in any other state. Notice shall be sent by certified mail to the owner of the vehicle or vessel and the person having the recorded lien on the vehicle or vessel at the address shown on the records of the registering agency and shall be mailed not less than 15 days before the date of the sale.

You can read more at this link:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=713.585&URL=CH0713/Sec78.HTM

[no1what]

That 31 days is a biggie. The numerous lies to friends, family, and LE about the whereabouts of Caylee is another. And, I can think of absolutely no way that the defense will be able to explain away the smell of a dead body in the trunk of Casey's car. In my way of thinking, those three elements directly links Casey to Caylee's death.

And, I do hope that a Jury will hear about Casey "selling" pictures of the Caylee after her death.


I hope LE has that car wrapped up tight so that the jury gets to go on a field trip and take a whif of the trunk as it is opened.

[Spots]

BBM
I see them using the Ugly Coping Def. Wont work but I see it coming just like in the Cynthia Sommers case. JMO

"Ugly coping" implies that one has been affected by a tragedy.

If that tragedy was Caylee's death, then Casey must have done it, as nobody else was ugly coping.

If that tragedy was a kidnapping by Invisi-nanny, then Casey should have reported it to LE (or shared it with someone else) and ~then~ proceeded to ugly cope.

Nope. Won't work.

[no1what]

Baez seems to think or pretend they have something really big they plan to pull out of their hat when it comes to trial.
That makes him the worse defense attorney. With that, I sure wouldn't hire him to defend me. If I was sitting in jail for as long as Casey and my attorney was out there spewing this, I would be so angry that a trial was not already set for me. Baez is hoping for a miracle.
He is so full of it.
Casey is going down and so is George and Cindy.
Those two think they are untouchable. They all will end up going down before end of trial, I'm thinking.

I also think the Anthony's will dissappear into their low life selves before this trial gets started. The media is about sick of them along with the public. It will be interesting when the state calls them on numerous lies they have thrown out there since all this happened.


I don’t have a problem with the Anthony’s supporting Casey but IMO I don’t see any signs of them supporting Caylee.

IMO the Anthony’s seem to be very angry with anyone who was a friend of Casey’s or has information to share in the investigation. IMO they blame the friends for Casey’s actions but not Casey herself. IMO it also seems that everyone around them is at fault but not one of the A’s are responsible for Caylee’s death. How many more people are they going to point the finger at?

[denjet]

Part of me also thinks that they have the opinion that people are stupid and will believe anything they say.

Good afternoon folks ! :seeya:

The Anthonys (particularly Cindy) think everyone is stupid, lazy, incompetent, toothless, fat, deceitful (I know! but they do), jealous ... and on and on ...

They hold themselves in high esteem, as being intellectually superior, very good looking, church going and honest and think they're the only ones intelligent enough to have only figured the case ...

Casey isn't the only one in for a rude awakening ... this whole family is going down and they are so delusional they don't even know it ... :thumbdown:

[Darcy]

I'm not desmom, but here is the Fl law (in part) regarding unclaimed vehicles:

6) Any vehicle or vessel which is stored pursuant to subsection (2) and which remains unclaimed, or for which reasonable charges for recovery, towing, or storing remain unpaid, and any contents not released pursuant to subsection (10), may be sold by the owner or operator of the storage space for such towing or storage charge after 35 days from the time the vehicle or vessel is stored therein if the vehicle or vessel is more than 3 years of age or after 50 days following the time the vehicle or vessel is stored therein if the vehicle or vessel is 3 years of age or less. The sale shall be at public sale for cash. If the date of the sale was not included in the notice required in subsection (4), notice of the sale shall be given to the person in whose name the vehicle or vessel is registered and to all persons claiming a lien on the vehicle or vessel as shown on the records of the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles or of the corresponding agency in any other state. Notice shall be sent by certified mail to the owner of the vehicle or vessel and the person having the recorded lien on the vehicle or vessel at the address shown on the records of the registering agency and shall be mailed not less than 15 days before the date of the sale.

You can read more at this link:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?mode=View%20Statutes&SubMenu=1&App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=713.585&URL=CH0713/Sec78.HTM



Many thanks need2no, much appreciated. After reading the the Fl.statutes, I guess they would have checked out the interior and been hit with the decomp smell and hopefully alerted the police. :ohmy:

[denjet]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21405276/detail.html

I wonder what is happening in regards to DCasey and his scheduled depo for the State? Did you all realize that DTennis is an Attorney for Casey Anthony? (look carefully at the wording under her signature) :ohmy:

WTH? Attorney for Casey Anthony under the Notice of Filing, then under the attached Privileged Log ... Attorney for Dominic Casey ... which is it
???? :unsure:

ETA ooops , just saw your post Spots ...

[LadyHam]

IMO there should be no one that can get past the fact that Casey
never reported her daughter missing...Cindy reported Caylee missing after 31 days.
No Casey partied, stole and bought clothes and got a tattoo etc. all while Caylee was "missing."
That fact alone I hope is mentioned every day of the trial just in case some juror could possibly forget and imagine how any mother could do what Casey did.
I also do not understand how anyone could even suggest that another did this horrible deed just with all that most of us know already ....goodness knows what has not been released.
Heck Cindy and George do not even believe another person murdered
Caylee...they might say it but they continue to tell
Stories that if they even thought about it make them look so foolish.

I so agree w/everything that you wrote in your post. Putting all the forensics aside, I would also like to add that I would find it hard to believe that a truly innocent mother would sit in jail and not tell the authorities exactly what happened to their daughter the last time she saw her. How did she get out of her possession? Who took her? I know that a defendant has the right to remain silent, but if Casey was truly innocent, there would be no reason why she couldn't go to LE w/what she knows. I think Casey is not telling what she knows because if she did she would be incriminating herself. If Casey was innocent, she would not have sat in jail for the last year+ when she had information that could have gotten her released immediately.

[powerball]

Good afternoon folks ! :seeya:

The Anthonys (particularly Cindy) think everyone is stupid, lazy, incompetent, toothless, fat, deceitful (I know! but they do), jealous ... and on and on ...

They hold themselves in high esteem, as being intellectually superior, very good looking, church going and honest and think they're the only ones intelligent enough to have only figured the case ...

Casey isn't the only one in for a rude awakening ... this whole family is going down and they are so delusional they don't even know it ... :thumbdown:

You lost me at toothless otherwise :thumbsup:

[crimeq]

Brought over from earlier thread:
US outrage over toddler death play Tot Mum
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,26303425-401,00.html

The Sydney Theatre Company said it will not profit from the play and that Soderbergh will be donating his fee to the National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children.

Very interesting that Baez jumped all over this right away :-) It's awfully hard for the defense to maintain its "spin" with all the info about the case hitting the media in every which way, including a theater production.

The article you linked shows that the play is a one-off, to be seen only this season in Sydney. However, I bet when the case is concluded and Casey is convicted, Steven Soderbergh will write the updated version of the play and also make it into a film. What he did with Brokovich was remarkable (and of course that was based on a true case).

I think Soderbergh has his antennae way out on this one and if he does a film, it will be accurate and a blockbuster. He's not afraid to go after the bad guys in his work.

Oh and the US person who apparently wrote to protest the play in AU, that Casey was becoming an "icon" and what a shame that was -- well, yes, she's an icon like Lizzie Borden is an icon. I don't have a problem with that. I want Casey's name to be a household word, synonymous with "evil."

[denjet]

Well, something is definately "off" about those two pages. I also noticed that DTennis stated that DCasey was "hired" by George and Cindy on Oct 17th. When in fact, the "contract" that I saw, wasn't signed until Oct 31. Sounds like a "lie" to the court, IMO.

DCasey never signed any agreement with NeJame, or even Conway, as far as I've detected. Not quite sure where he is getting that he worked for "legal teams representing George and Cindy." How can any "legal privilege" attach to George or Cindy?
Hi Sun!
Dominic also said after he was no longer working for Baez, he still worked for Casey and that he still did .. and then he had a "verbal" agreement with the A's before the contract was signed ... he never said anything about having any contract with Nejame or Conway ...

You bring up a good point about the legal privilege he's trying to claim and even with KC, he wasn't her lawyer !!! To me from the date he parted ways with Baez, he know longer had any legal standing for privilege ... JMO :blink:

[LadyHam]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21405276/detail.html

I wonder what is happening in regards to DCasey and his scheduled depo for the State? Did you all realize that DTennis is an Attorney for Casey Anthony? (look carefully at the wording under her signature) :ohmy:

Is that really true that she is one of Casey's attorneys or is that a typo?:ohmy: In one of the first sentences she spells Dominic Casey's name as 'Dominic Case'. Just sloppy work.:thumbdown:

[denjet]

You lost me at toothless otherwise :thumbsup:
that one came out in reference to protesters ... not totally sure it was Cindy but it sounded like her ...

[Katprint]

Many thanks need2no, much appreciated. After reading the the Fl.statutes, I guess they would have checked out the interior and been hit with the decomp smell and hopefully alerted the police. :ohmy:
Except for the terrible smell, it was actually a pretty nice little car. I think it would eventually have been sold at auction rather than destroyed.

With regard to the decomp smell, certainly they would have looked through the car to see what was causing that terrible smell. However, all they would have found was ordinary trash, not a dead human being. I doubt they would have called the police to report a bad-smelling car. I doubt the police would have been interested in investigating a bad-smelling car whose prior registered owners (Cindy and George) were alive and well.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[denjet]

Very interesting that Baez jumped all over this right away :-) It's awfully hard for the defense to maintain its "spin" with all the info about the case hitting the media in every which way, including a theater production.

The article you linked shows that the play is a one-off, to be seen only this season in Sydney. However, I bet when the case is concluded and Casey is convicted, Steven Soderbergh will write the updated version of the play and also make it into a film. What he did with Brokovich was remarkable (and of course that was based on a true case).

I think Soderbergh has his antennae way out on this one and if he does a film, it will be accurate and a blockbuster. He's not afraid to go after the bad guys in his work.

Oh and the US person who apparently wrote to protest the play in AU, that Casey was becoming an "icon" and what a shame that was -- well, yes, she's an icon like Lizzie Borden is an icon. I don't have a problem with that. I want Casey's name to be a household word, synonymous with "evil."
ITA, Crime!
I respect his work and the injustices he's brought to light ... the fact that the profits will go to missing and exploited children solidifies my opinion ... :thumbsup:

[Sun]

Hi Sun!
Dominic also said after he was no longer working for Baez, he still worked for Casey and that he still did .. and then he had a "verbal" agreement with the A's before the contract was signed ... he never said anything about having any contract with Nejame or Conway ...

You bring up a good point about the legal privilege he's trying to claim and even with KC, he wasn't her lawyer !!! To me from the date he parted ways with Baez, he know longer had any legal standing for privilege ... JMO :blink:

After seeing the filing by DTennis and the oops (attorney for Casey Anthony), it appears that Casey's defense team is behind this. If DCasey is allowing Casey's defense team to provide him "attorney services" then he's a big fool, IMO. Casey's defense team is intent on media attention for the most part.

[Scampi]

casey anthony iconic? Hardly, I see her right up there with routier, smith and peterson. Just another accused babykiller who thought she was smart enough to get away with it. What a fool, imo.

[powerball]

Is that really true that she is one of Casey's attorneys or is that a typo?:ohmy: In one of the first sentences she spells Dominic Casey's name as 'Dominic Case'. Just sloppy work.:thumbdown:

Ok I am not one to complain. But really these people make decent money. Why would there be ANY typo's or SLOPPY work... sorry had to

[Sun]

Is that really true that she is one of Casey's attorneys or is that a typo?:ohmy: In one of the first sentences she spells Dominic Casey's name as 'Dominic Case'. Just sloppy work.:thumbdown:

I'm going to guess that Casey's defense team is furnishing her with paperwork. Does that make her one of Casey's attorneys? I don't know. It does seem a bit odd to me. A big oopsie.

[Tia]

Good afternoon folks ! :seeya:

The Anthonys (particularly Cindy) think everyone is stupid, lazy, incompetent, toothless, fat, deceitful (I know! but they do), jealous ... and on and on ...

They hold themselves in high esteem, as being intellectually superior, very good looking, church going and honest and think they're the only ones intelligent enough to have only figured the case ...

Casey isn't the only one in for a rude awakening ... this whole family is going down and they are so delusional they don't even know it ... :thumbdown:

I am going to enjoy watching them go down. The have acted with zero class from day one.

[crimeq]

On yesterday's thread, someone posted that Cindy has a blog??? Is this true? Something other than the fundation website?

[summer]

On yesterday's thread, someone posted that Cindy has a blog??? Is this true? Something other than the fundation website?

Hi crimeq - I *think* people are surmising it's Cindy's blog because it's called caseydidn'tdoit or something. And because of the sentiments expressed therein, the lack of emotional and intellectual maturity of the posts, and also because most comments are blocked unless they praise the princesses. Haven't seen it myself but nothing would surprise me.

[crimeq]

Hi crimeq - I *think* people are surmising it's Cindy's blog because it's called caseydidn'tdoit or something. And because of the sentiments expressed therein, the lack of emotional and intellectual maturity of the posts, and also because most comments are blocked unless they praise the princesses. Haven't seen it myself but nothing would surprise me.

thanks, summer -- I'll look for it. :laugh:

ETA: found it http://caseydidntdoit.blogspot.com/2009/01/in-june-casey-had-huge-fight-with-her.html

ETA again--not sure that's the right one though.

[summer]

thanks, summer -- I'll look for it. :laugh:

ETA: found it http://caseydidntdoit.blogspot.com/2009/01/in-june-casey-had-huge-fight-with-her.html

Be careful hun. I usually don't step into that stuff without a hazmat suit. :smile:

[summer]

thanks, summer -- I'll look for it. :laugh:

ETA: found it http://caseydidntdoit.blogspot.com/2009/01/in-june-casey-had-huge-fight-with-her.html

ETA again--not sure that's the right one though.

Eek. I wonder if she ends each post with "God Bless". You know those re-baptisms are so powerful. :lol:

[crimeq]

Be careful hun. I usually don't step into that stuff without a hazmat suit. :smile:

LOL thanks Summer :smile:

[Kathlb]

Good afternoon everyone,
Just taking a moment to check in during work schedules.

I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I subscribe to the Women in Crime site and also get their newsletter. Today I got this on Diane Fanning's book. She wrote it also...

http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2009/11/mommys-little-girl.html

[Darcy]

Except for the terrible smell, it was actually a pretty nice little car. I think it would eventually have been sold at auction rather than destroyed.

With regard to the decomp smell, certainly they would have looked through the car to see what was causing that terrible smell. However, all they would have found was ordinary trash, not a dead human being. I doubt they would have called the police to report a bad-smelling car. I doubt the police would have been interested in investigating a bad-smelling car whose prior registered owners (Cindy and George) were alive and well.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions


Thanks for your reply Katprint, it just seems strange that the tow yard employees would not and did not alerted the police if they believed the car smelt of decomp. Especially as George talked about his fears that the trunk may have contained his missing daughter or granddaughter. As the smell is something one never forgets. My experience is that it lingers at the back of your throat and in your nasal passage. It is pretty much all you can smell for a few days. The employees were also familiar with the unforgettable smell. It surprises me they didn't have a procedure to follow when they came into contact with it.

[need2no]

I so agree w/everything that you wrote in your post. Putting all the forensics aside, I would also like to add that I would find it hard to believe that a truly innocent mother would sit in jail and not tell the authorities exactly what happened to their daughter the last time she saw her. How did she get out of her possession? Who took her? I know that a defendant has the right to remain silent, but if Casey was truly innocent, there would be no reason why she couldn't go to LE w/what she knows. I think Casey is not telling what she knows because if she did she would be incriminating herself. If Casey was innocent, she would not have sat in jail for the last year+ when she had information that could have gotten her released immediately.

Just playing along here......

casey claimed she was doing her own investigation during the 31 days Caylee was 'missing' before Cindy called 911. casey claimed she knew who had her daughter, as well as the type of car she drove, was familiar with some of her family members, and the various states where she had relatives and may go to spend time. She claimed to have been given a script to follow. The 30 days was up.

Ok, so even with the knowledge casey had regarding who took Caylee, she obviously made no headway in locating her daughter. So...when the mean 'ole incompetent cops didn't believe her story, and arrested her this would have been the time to come clean and request protection for her family...if she feared for their lives as she claims. For more than a month she was unsuccessful in finding Caylee, and hadn't heard from the kidnappers, so keeping quiet obviously was not changing a thing, or giving her any reason to believe that Caylee would be returned to her, or was safe, or even still alive for that matter. Now she finds herself in jail unable to personally search for Caylee, or to even share intimate details with her family so they can search for Caylee while she's behind bars...yet she suffers in silence supposedly for the benefit of Caylee and her family. Hey, maybe she thought Zenaida would feel sorry for her and drop Caylee off at the Anthony's home...using her own Anthony house key of course.:wink:

This is all so ludicrous I can't believe I even put it in writing.

[MiamiNice1]

Good afternoon everyone,
Just taking a moment to check in during work schedules.

I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I subscribe to the Women in Crime site and also get their newsletter. Today I got this on Diane Fanning's book. She wrote it also...

http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2009/11/mommys-little-girl.html

Thanks for this, Kathlb! You should also post this in the Diane Fanning thread on this forum.......:)

imo

[LadyHam]

casey anthony iconic? Hardly, I see her right up there with routier, smith and peterson. Just another accused babykiller who thought she was smart enough to get away with it. What a fool, imo.

If anything, Casey Anthony is infamous. After she is convicted, she will be forgotten pretty quickly.

[LadyHam]

Ok I am not one to complain. But really these people make decent money. Why would there be ANY typo's or SLOPPY work... sorry had to

Plus, they know that these motions are going to be splashed all over the media. I would be triple and quadruple checking things before I filed them.

[MiamiNice1]

Just playing along here......

casey claimed she was doing her own investigation during the 31 days Caylee was 'missing' before Cindy called 911. casey claimed she knew who had her daughter, as well as the type of car she drove, was familiar with some of her family members, and the various states where she had relatives and may go to spend time. She claimed to have been given a script to follow. The 30 days was up.

Ok, so even with the knowledge casey had regarding who took Caylee, she obviously made no headway in locating her daughter. So...when the mean 'ole incompetent cops didn't believe her story, and arrested her this would have been the time to come clean and request protection for her family...if she feared for their lives as she claims. For more than a month she was unsuccessful in finding Caylee, and hadn't heard from the kidnappers, so keeping quiet obviously was not changing a thing, or giving her any reason to believe that Caylee would be returned to her, or was safe, or even still alive for that matter. Now she finds herself in jail unable to personally search for Caylee, or to even share intimate details with her family so they can search for Caylee while she's behind bars...yet she suffers in silence supposedly for the benefit of Caylee and her family. Hey, maybe she thought Zenaida would feel sorry for her and drop Caylee off at the Anthony's home...using her own Anthony house key of course.:wink:

This is all so ludicrous I can't believe I even put it in writing.

LOL, need! Good synopsis, though.

This little scenario of "the family coming to harm" by Casey, was thankfully put to rest in Cindy's depo this past July 2009. LindaDB made it CLEAR that CINDY was this one who first mentioned this drivel to Casey in one of their recorded Jailhouse visits. Cindy finally agreed.

imo

[Scampi]

Just playing along here......

casey claimed she was doing her own investigation during the 31 days Caylee was 'missing' before Cindy called 911. casey claimed she knew who had her daughter, as well as the type of car she drove, was familiar with some of her family members, and the various states where she had relatives and may go to spend time. She claimed to have been given a script to follow. The 30 days was up.

Ok, so even with the knowledge casey had regarding who took Caylee, she obviously made no headway in locating her daughter. So...when the mean 'ole incompetent cops didn't believe her story, and arrested her this would have been the time to come clean and request protection for her family...if she feared for their lives as she claims. For more than a month she was unsuccessful in finding Caylee, and hadn't heard from the kidnappers, so keeping quiet obviously was not changing a thing, or giving her any reason to believe that Caylee would be returned to her, or was safe, or even still alive for that matter. Now she finds herself in jail unable to personally search for Caylee, or to even share intimate details with her family so they can search for Caylee while she's behind bars...yet she suffers in silence supposedly for the benefit of Caylee and her family. Hey, maybe she thought Zenaida would feel sorry for her and drop Caylee off at the Anthony's home...using her own Anthony house key of course.:wink:

This is all so ludicrous I can't believe I even put it in writing.


Oh Need, are you doubting that ole jose is gonna explain all of the above to the jury at trial?


When pigs fly.............imo. :wink:

[Kathlb]

Just playing along here......

casey claimed she was doing her own investigation during the 31 days Caylee was 'missing' before Cindy called 911.

*respectful snip*


. Now she finds herself in jail unable to personally search for Caylee, or to even share intimate details with her family so they can search for Caylee while she's behind bars...yet she suffers in silence supposedly for the benefit of Caylee and her family. Hey, maybe she thought Zenaida would feel sorry for her and drop Caylee off at the Anthony's home...using her own Anthony house key of course.:wink:

This is all so ludicrous I can't believe I even put it in writing.

Add to that she has been sitting in there for almost a year since Caylee's discovery and STILL hasn't told authorities the info you mentioned and she can't be protecting Caylee now...nor her parents. So why is she still there???? (rhetorical question) :-)

[Scampi]

Add to that she has been sitting in there for almost a year since Caylee's discovery and STILL hasn't told authorities the info you mentioned and she can't be protecting Caylee now...nor her parents. So why is she still there???? (rhetorical question) :-)

Add in that very early in the case, she tried to point the finger of guilt at Jesse Grund, the man who truly loved Caylee.

This deplorable family should hang their heads in shame, attemting to implicate innocent people like Jesse Grund, someone who had no problem taking a polygraph for LE.

Why haven't any of the anthonys taken a polygraph????

I know why.

[ladeebug565]

I hope LE has that car wrapped up tight so that the jury gets to go on a field trip and take a whif of the trunk as it is opened.

Perhaps the defense thinks that if they drag this trial into the next millennium, the smell in the trunk will dissipate. They know that jurors will get a wiff and then those 12 people, can store that horrible smell in their memory banks just like George did as a cop and Cindy did as a nurse. They'll never be able to forget it either.

[need2no]

Oh Need, are you doubting that ole jose is gonna explain all of the above to the jury at trial?


When pigs fly.............imo. :wink:

I have complete confidence in Jose's ability to toss a bunch of pigs around in court and make them appear to be flying....temporarily. Fortunately I also have complete confidence a jury will be seated that can recognize that them pigs ain't really flying despite Jose and his teams best efforts to make them fly. :biggrin:

[Kathlb]

Thanks for this, Kathlb! You should also post this in the Diane Fanning thread on this forum.......:)

imo

Thanks Miami, I just posted it there at your suggestion. :-)

[Katprint]

Add to that she has been sitting in there for almost a year since Caylee's discovery and STILL hasn't told authorities the info you mentioned and she can't be protecting Caylee now...nor her parents. So why is she still there???? (rhetorical question) :-)
Well, you know, she was arrested on an effing whim... :rolleyes:

It has always amazed me how angry liars can become when their lies are not believed. It's like they feel they DESERVE to be believed because they put so much effort into thinking up their lie - even if their lie is patently unbelievable and/or easily disproven.

The other day I was listening to Casey's early police interviews at Universal Studios. The police were confronting Casey about all her lies, and how a mother who was truly concerned about finding her kidnapped child wouldn't be obstructing the police efforts to help her, and they ask Casey why she would lie to them under these circumstances. Casey said, "I don't know what else to do." And I believed her! That one, single time I believed Casey i.e. that all she could think of was to lie and keep lying.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Kathlb]

I have complete confidence in Jose's ability to toss a bunch of pigs around in court and make them appear to be flying....temporarily. Fortunately I also have complete confidence a jury will be seated that can recognize that them pigs ain't really flying despite Jose and his teams best efforts to make them fly. :biggrin:

From what I have read about him, and seen from him, I have no doubt that a lot of flying pigs shot out of cannons by him are now sitting in our store meat depts as packages of bacon. ;-)

[need2no]

Add to that she has been sitting in there for almost a year since Caylee's discovery and STILL hasn't told authorities the info you mentioned and she can't be protecting Caylee now...nor her parents. So why is she still there???? (rhetorical question) :-)

hmmmm, let me think.......

She likes the free food, laying around all day, no longer having to scheme and coverup, AND most especially not having to deal with Cindy.

J/K :biggrin:

[crimeq]

I have complete confidence in Jose's ability to toss a bunch of pigs around in court and make them appear to be flying....temporarily. Fortunately I also have complete confidence a jury will be seated that can recognize that them pigs ain't really flying despite Jose and his teams best efforts to make them fly. :biggrin:

If Jose hadn't dissed Steven Soderbergh's play "Tot Mom", he might have asked Soderbergh's advice on how to create the stage illusion of flying pigs. :laugh:

[Kathlb]

hmmmm, let me think.......

She likes the free food, laying around all day, no longer having to scheme and coverup, AND most especially not having to deal with Cindy.

J/K :biggrin:

I think that last one is probably number one. :biggrin:

[crimeq]

hmmmm, let me think.......

She likes the free food, laying around all day, no longer having to scheme and coverup, AND most especially not having to deal with Cindy.

J/K :biggrin:

It's a shame to think that perhaps Casey has adjusted to her new abode and perhaps become content with it.

I wonder how she'll feel when her dorm room is changed for a death row cell. Or a regular cell, mixed in with the general population for the rest of her life.

[need2no]

LOL, need! Good synopsis, though.

This little scenario of "the family coming to harm" by Casey, was thankfully put to rest in Cindy's depo this past July 2009. LindaDB made it CLEAR that CINDY was this one who first mentioned this drivel to Casey in one of their recorded Jailhouse visits. Cindy finally agreed.

imo

Thanks for sharing this MN, somehow I missed that important part. Of course I could only focus on one topic at the time and all the inconsistencies because there was soooooo much to latch onto in that State depo. At some point I guess I will read it one more crueling time.:scared:

[Scampi]

I have complete confidence in Jose's ability to toss a bunch of pigs around in court and make them appear to be flying....temporarily. Fortunately I also have complete confidence a jury will be seated that can recognize that them pigs ain't really flying despite Jose and his teams best efforts to make them fly. :biggrin:

Pigs in the courtroom?

Having no desire to be trucked off to band camp, I think I'll refrain from further porcine comments. :wink:

[Spots]

WTH? Attorney for Casey Anthony under the Notice of Filing, then under the attached Privileged Log ... Attorney for Dominic Casey ... which is it
???? :unsure:

ETA ooops , just saw your post Spots ...

I *think* that it's just a typo. Perhaps the secretary is also obsessed with the case and made an honest mistake.

That being said, doesn't Ms. Tennis (and/or the secretary) proofread the papers she files? Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy!

If I were looking for a lawyer, I would skip over Ms. Tennis. If she can be that sloppy about who she's working for, she can be sloppy on the big, important things as well. I don't want sloppy on my case.

[desmom]

Good afternoon everyone,
Just taking a moment to check in during work schedules.

I'm not sure if this has been posted, but I subscribe to the Women in Crime site and also get their newsletter. Today I got this on Diane Fanning's book. She wrote it also...

http://womenincrimeink.blogspot.com/2009/11/mommys-little-girl.html


Thanks! :seeya:

[need2no]

If Jose hadn't dissed Steven Soderbergh's play "Tot Mom", he might have asked Soderbergh's advice on how to create the stage illusion of flying pigs. :laugh:

:laugh:... and Lord knows he needs all the help he can get.

[need2no]

Pigs in the courtroom?

Having no desire to be trucked off to band camp, I think I'll refrain from further porcine comments. :wink:

BBM

:smile: gotcha

I had to delete my initial thoughts/comments for just that reason. :wink:

[Spots]

I have complete confidence in Jose's ability to toss a bunch of pigs around in court and make them appear to be flying....temporarily. Fortunately I also have complete confidence a jury will be seated that can recognize that them pigs ain't really flying despite Jose and his teams best efforts to make them fly. :biggrin:

Reminds me of a t-shirt:

"Obey gravity. It's the law."

Gravity *will* overcome Jose's flying pigs.

[Dtviewer3]

Just for sake of the discussion concerning Cindy and George, Lee too I suppose. I wonder if they were concerned what appearance or what anyone thought in any moment? I doubt it seriously,it would have been the last thing they cared about and it shows, right. WHO in the trenches of despair cares,I know I wouldn't!

I see all over the internet contradictions as to their behavior. Some are shouting they have no class,others saying they put on a front,playing the proper roles.

I mean it gets confusing. Thankfully I have an able bodied mind and can see that in the moments leading up to the 911 calls till this day
( how long has it been now) a long time for sure, that CLASS and then contradictions that follow such as putting on fronts are just angry people, with good reasons,but at the same time these contradictions of the public lashing out ,the demands of the public onto Cindy, George and Lee are atrocious.


What is the proper stance, more importantly who cares, we all have certain anxiety producing differences that dictate how we REACT or ACT or do not act. ( flight or fight response) Do you FLEE as Casey may have ( F LIGHT ) or do you F IGHT ? Like Cindy did. Mothers tend to F IGHT for their off spring, lest we not forget Cindy is the mother, she was not only the mother she was the Grand Mother.

Soul searching is EASY to do when its not your own soul your searching at the moment and in battle with this army searching for answers while in the depths of despair with an Army coming at you full force.

Not an easy task by any stretch. I will not judge these people in their time of despair, just can't go there.

More power to those of you who know how well you would react in same scenarios, how much class you would be judged to have. What strikes me is that anyone would mention CLASS in the scope of the situation.

The proper stance has been shown by countless other people who have lost loved ones.
You dont LIE, you dont OBSTRUCT, you dont ACCUSE, you dont CHANGE STORIES.

There is nothing wrong with the Anthony's loving and even supporting Casey.
But accusing innocent people to try to set Casey free is beyond sickening.

[denjet]

On yesterday's thread, someone posted that Cindy has a blog??? Is this true? Something other than the fundation website?
It was more of an observation and I said it sarcastically (I need a sarcasm smiley), about a blogger named imsosickofthis who was on Topix as sosickofthis and now started her own blog ... It may not be Cindy, but I would bet my right arm it is ... no one else would be that obsessed about laying out the whole case and pointing out the errors in everyone's ways ... the site is complete with a high school picture of KC and complementary slideshows of the memorial etc. .... there are quite a few tells especially names she calls all the players ...

You be the judge .... :rolleyes:

It's called "Casey Didn't Do It"
http://www.asecondbreath.net/

[witness]

Just for sake of the discussion concerning Cindy and George, Lee too I suppose. I wonder if they were concerned what appearance or what anyone thought in any moment? I doubt it seriously,it would have been the last thing they cared about and it shows, right. WHO in the trenches of despair cares,I know I wouldn't!

I see all over the internet contradictions as to their behavior. Some are shouting they have no class,others saying they put on a front,playing the proper roles.

I mean it gets confusing. Thankfully I have an able bodied mind and can see that in the moments leading up to the 911 calls till this day
( how long has it been now) a long time for sure, that CLASS and then contradictions that follow such as putting on fronts are just angry people, with good reasons,but at the same time these contradictions of the public lashing out ,the demands of the public onto Cindy, George and Lee are atrocious.


What is the proper stance, more importantly who cares, we all have certain anxiety producing differences that dictate how we REACT or ACT or do not act. ( flight or fight response) Do you FLEE as Casey may have ( F LIGHT ) or do you F IGHT ? Like Cindy did. Mothers tend to F IGHT for their off spring, lest we not forget Cindy is the mother, she was not only the mother she was the Grand Mother.

Soul searching is EASY to do when its not your own soul your searching at the moment and in battle with this army searching for answers while in the depths of despair with an Army coming at you full force.

Not an easy task by any stretch. I will not judge these people in their time of despair, just can't go there.

More power to those of you who know how well you would react in same scenarios, how much class you would be judged to have. What strikes me is that anyone would mention CLASS in the scope of the situation.

Well then let me take on that task. They chose the path they are on. Not just my opinion my observation.

[denjet]

Ok I am not one to complain. But really these people make decent money. Why would there be ANY typo's or SLOPPY work... sorry had to

I hear ya ... I don't judge people on spelling and typos, and hope they don't judge me, but come on, this is a legal document and at the very least the NAMES should be correct and should be one of the first things checked along with dates and case numbers :blink:

[djmsmom]

Add in that very early in the case, she tried to point the finger of guilt at Jesse Grund, the man who truly loved Caylee.

This deplorable family should hang their heads in shame, attemting to implicate innocent people like Jesse Grund, someone who had no problem taking a polygraph for LE.

Why haven't any of the anthonys taken a polygraph????

I know why.

Yesterday OralandEAST mentioned in her post "an insanely jelouse ex boyfriend". I hope they do file their own civil suit when the trial is over.

[denjet]

thanks, summer -- I'll look for it. :laugh:

ETA: found it http://caseydidntdoit.blogspot.com/2009/01/in-june-casey-had-huge-fight-with-her.html

ETA again--not sure that's the right one though.
That was her original one ... which is closed to comments ... I posted the recent one

[Januarybaby]

Just for sake of the discussion concerning Cindy and George, Lee too I suppose. I wonder if they were concerned what appearance or what anyone thought in any moment? I doubt it seriously,it would have been the last thing they cared about and it shows, right. WHO in the trenches of despair cares,I know I wouldn't!

I see all over the internet contradictions as to their behavior. Some are shouting they have no class,others saying they put on a front,playing the proper roles.

I mean it gets confusing. Thankfully I have an able bodied mind and can see that in the moments leading up to the 911 calls till this day
( how long has it been now) a long time for sure, that CLASS and then contradictions that follow such as putting on fronts are just angry people, with good reasons,but at the same time these contradictions of the public lashing out ,the demands of the public onto Cindy, George and Lee are atrocious.


What is the proper stance, more importantly who cares, we all have certain anxiety producing differences that dictate how we REACT or ACT or do not act. ( flight or fight response) Do you FLEE as Casey may have ( F LIGHT ) or do you F IGHT ? Like Cindy did. Mothers tend to F IGHT for their off spring, lest we not forget Cindy is the mother, she was not only the mother she was the Grand Mother.

Soul searching is EASY to do when its not your own soul your searching at the moment and in battle with this army searching for answers while in the depths of despair with an Army coming at you full force.

Not an easy task by any stretch. I will not judge these people in their time of despair, just can't go there.

More power to those of you who know how well you would react in same scenarios, how much class you would be judged to have. What strikes me is that anyone would mention CLASS in the scope of the situation.


You said it yourself, mothers fight for their children. Casey did everything BUT fight for her child, instead she chose partying, lying, not calling police, shopping, men etc and you dont think thats suspicious for a motherr whos suppose to love her child so much? Other people even strangers were more worried for Caylee than Casey was. She was only worried about getting caught.
Class would be Deina Thompson, Mark Klass, The Van Dams, Elizabeth Oltens mother etc etc ...certainly not Cindy and George Anthony

[Dtviewer3]

Do you really THINK Casey spent any time at all coming up with a story,fairy tale or other?

I find it interesting that this cunning, evil Casey did not have a LIE thought out, a story, a plan, anything while her daughter was missing for 31 days.

She has been accused of planning the whole thing, to it was a fit of anger and every other scenario possible, but there is ONE thing that just jumps out at you.

Casey knew she was responsible for her daughter and shown to be a loving mother in the past.Casey knew her mother also had the same loving feelings for her daughter as she herself did. Casey has exhibited openly and I believe this, so Casey NOT having thought out a story, a script, a plan, a cover up in 31 days tells me she hadn't a clue of what to do.

It certainly appears that as a child herself that had to answer to her mother "still" never once had she left the NEST, was trying to protect herself and her daughter at the same time and her selfishness led her to place herself first,instead of her daughter out of her own fears of back lash from her mother.

That tells another story all on its own.

Even if accidental, even if on purpose and with every evil bone in the body, Casey KNEW there would come a day when she would have to face reality, she had 31 days to THINK of something, but she did not, not until the last moment when cornered by her brother.


Yes we all know something caused her daughters demise,but the puzzle pieces have YET to be placed.

Or maybe she DID have a plan all thought out that she was working on until her mother showed up at Tony's apt. that night.
She repeatedly begged her mother 'to just give her one more day'.

Maybe her plan got foiled because Cindy showed up, and she had to make up the invisible nanny story. And then she had to change the nanny story twice after that.

Remember, she told Amy that she was getting her parents house, and Amy and her were going to move in there in a couple of weeks. Amy had already changed the address on her mail.

She also told Mark H in Cali. that she had something big to tell him IN PERSON. So maybe she was planning on heading there.

Just because she spouted the Nanny story when caught doesnt mean she didnt have a plan.

[summer]

Oh gee for a minute there I thought my house was falling down but I realized it was just the creaky, hackneyed, overused, crumbling excuses for the pitiful lying Anthony family. Whew.

ETA: scratch *pitiful*.

Please, somebody, get some new material!

[Scampi]

Well then let me take on that task. They chose the path they are on. Not just my opinion my observation.

They sure have, no one twisted their arms to go and do all those interviews where they LIED. I posted one yesterday where cynthia stated that the car DID NOT SMELL when they brought it home. That is a brazen and boldfaced lie.

The anthonys deserve all the criticism that is now coming their way and in my opinion are helping to convict their daughter.

[sydney]

Do you really THINK Casey spent any time at all coming up with a story,fairy tale or other?

I find it interesting that this cunning, evil Casey did not have a LIE thought out, a story, a plan, anything while her daughter was missing for 31 days.

She has been accused of planning the whole thing, to it was a fit of anger and every other scenario possible, but there is ONE thing that just jumps out at you.


(snipped by me)

well, apparently she had several lies thought out - she was gone for 31 days, lying about her whereabouts all the time, knowing that her parents really didn't give a dang about her or caylee. not only that, she continued to try and sell this same garbage to le.

i also believe she had aid in embellishing these lies when she was finally caught.

[crimeq]

It was more of an observation and I said it sarcastically (I need a sarcasm smiley), about a blogger named imsosickofthis who was on Topix as sosickofthis and now started her own blog ... It may not be Cindy, but I would bet my right arm it is ... no one else would be that obsessed about laying out the whole case and pointing out the errors in everyone's ways ... the site is complete with a high school picture of KC and complementary slideshows of the memorial etc. .... there are quite a few tells especially names she calls all the players ...

You be the judge .... :rolleyes:

It's called "Casey Didn't Do It"
http://www.asecondbreath.net/

thanks den -- I'll check it out.

[Dtviewer3]

The only problem with this theory is that you have no idea what the Anthony's were thinking. You present this stance because YOU believe that they KNEW their daughter was guilty, yet they state they do not believe her guilty.I believe them, so in turn it is quite easy for me to see them pointing fingers, grasping at WHO could it be?

This obstruction you claim in my opinion stems from their belief their daughter was innocent,therefore they were rebellious and upset that all were pointing fingers at Casey from the inception.

Changing stories? Lies, obstruction,I can clearly see where you could become confused on that, after all you were not enduring the anxiety and fight or flight mode, THEY however WERE.


You can try to come up with all the explainations and excuses you want.

But there is no getting around that they have lied, accused, obstructed, and attempted to enable Casey once again.
Just like they have done every other time she has been in trouble before. It is well documented how they have covered and cleaned up every mess Casey gets into, all the way up to and including murder.

[sydney]

The only problem with this theory is that you have no idea what the Anthony's were thinking. You present this stance because YOU believe that they KNEW their daughter was guilty, yet they state they do not believe her guilty.I believe them, so in turn it is quite easy for me to see them pointing fingers, grasping at WHO could it be?


(snipped by me)

grasping at who it could be? kc TOLD THEM WHO IT WAS and gave a description to cindy - not only that, kc maintains TO THIS DAY that the invisinanny took caylee. so, if the thony's KNOW kc is innocent, and have a PHYSICAL DESCRIPTION OF THE CULPRIT why aren't they out there looking for the (ahem) real killer?

not only that but, i do not recall them ONE TIME ever asking if anyone had seen caylee IN THE COMPANY OF the nanny. she was a "10", remember? i would think that people would sit up and notice a "10" of that description with a small child in tow of caylee's description.

[Scampi]

Do you really THINK Casey spent any time at all coming up with a story,fairy tale or other?

I find it interesting that this cunning, evil Casey did not have a LIE thought out, a story, a plan, anything while her daughter was missing for 31 days.

She has been accused of planning the whole thing, to it was a fit of anger and every other scenario possible, but there is ONE thing that just jumps out at you.

Casey knew she was responsible for her daughter and shown to be a loving mother in the past.Casey knew her mother also had the same loving feelings for her daughter as she herself did. Casey has exhibited openly and I believe this, so Casey NOT having thought out a story, a script, a plan, a cover up in 31 days tells me she hadn't a clue of what to do.

It certainly appears that as a child herself that had to answer to her mother "still" never once had she left the NEST, was trying to protect herself and her daughter at the same time and her selfishness led her to place herself first,instead of her daughter out of her own fears of back lash from her mother.

That tells another story all on its own.

Even if accidental, even if on purpose and with every evil bone in the body, Casey KNEW there would come a day when she would have to face reality, she had 31 days to THINK of something, but she did not, not until the last moment when cornered by her brother.


Yes we all know something caused her daughters demise,but the puzzle pieces have YET to be placed.

casey anthony did pretty good at killing and hiding her daughter, imo. Until her mother got angry and acted impulsively and called 911. You'd think cynthia would have learned her lesson then and not go flying off the handle without considering the consequences first, but she hasn't.

casey had the zany the nanny fairytale and as far as I can see, the desperate defense is sticking to that.

[sydney]

EXACTLY, you have said it yourself. Casey had lied about her where abouts, came up with stuff on a moments notice, yet had 31 days and did not have a story plotted out and had 31 days to make one up.

TY

you miss my point. you said she couldn't come up with a lie - well, she lied for 31 days. it is my firm belief that if cindy hadn't gotten angry that the car was towed and it was costing her money, kc would have gone gaily on her way - no one ever the wiser.

i am also still of the firm opinion that it was money that made cindy call le - not missing caylee.

here is a grandparent who says she ADORES her grandchild, but doesn't care that she doesn't see/hear from her for a month and takes no action whatsoever to determine her true location. yep - it took the fact that a car was towed to get her to phone the police and mention that caylee was missing.

nope - something smells fishy to me.

[Scampi]

I do not RECALL a tag team of news reporters with 24 hour surveillance on each of their homes and an army of followers camping out on their door steps throwing rocks either, do you?

A world of difference there for sure. If George and Cindy had been afforded proper protection from these acts, you may too have seen a different side of them,but we will never know now,will we.

Oh we go back to class, what again is the etiquette to follow when reporting a missing person and all that follows ( considering the scope of the MEDIA frenzy ) Can I find that under GOOGLE somewhere?

Well, the first thing you do is report the missing person as soon as possible not on day 31.

If the anthonys don't suspect casey anthony why did they search their backyard, looking UNDER the playhouse?

[Dtviewer3]

I do not RECALL a tag team of news reporters with 24 hour surveillance on each of their homes and an army of followers camping out on their door steps throwing rocks either, do you?

A world of difference there for sure. If George and Cindy had been afforded proper protection from these acts, you may too have seen a different side of them,but we will never know now,will we.

Oh we go back to class, what again is the etiquette to follow when reporting a missing person and all that follows ( considering the scope of the MEDIA frenzy ) Can I find that under GOOGLE somewhere?


then you certainly didnt follow those cases because they were scrutinized much more then the Anthony's ever were.

The difference is they did whatever was needed for justice for their loved ones who were deceased.

Remember, NOBODY is making George and Cindy go on tv shows, and nobody is making them change their stories.

They are doing all that on their own. And taking money for it at the same time. They could show CLASS and say no comment. Too bad the money and Casey are more important than Caylee ever was.

How disgusting........

[desmom]

Just for sake of the discussion concerning Cindy and George, Lee too I suppose. I wonder if they were concerned what appearance or what anyone thought in any moment? I doubt it seriously,it would have been the last thing they cared about and it shows, right. WHO in the trenches of despair cares,I know I wouldn't!

I see all over the internet contradictions as to their behavior. Some are shouting they have no class,others saying they put on a front,playing the proper roles.

I mean it gets confusing. Thankfully I have an able bodied mind and can see that in the moments leading up to the 911 calls till this day
( how long has it been now) a long time for sure, that CLASS and then contradictions that follow such as putting on fronts are just angry people, with good reasons,but at the same time these contradictions of the public lashing out ,the demands of the public onto Cindy, George and Lee are atrocious.

What is the proper stance, more importantly who cares, we all have certain anxiety producing differences that dictate how we REACT or ACT or do not act. ( flight or fight response) Do you FLEE as Casey may have ( F LIGHT ) or do you F IGHT ? Like Cindy did. Mothers tend to F IGHT for their off spring, lest we not forget Cindy is the mother, she was not only the mother she was the Grand Mother.

Soul searching is EASY to do when its not your own soul your searching at the moment and in battle with this army searching for answers while in the depths of despair with an Army coming at you full force.

Not an easy task by any stretch. I will not judge these people in their time of despair, just can't go there.

More power to those of you who know how well you would react in same scenarios, how much class you would be judged to have. What strikes me is that anyone would mention CLASS in the scope of the situation.

I may not be the classiest act in town, but I do know I would not do fill my interviews with lies.

http://smalltalkwitht.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/casey-anthony-mother-of-the-year/
Cindy Anthony: “And once Cas…Caylee is found and is brought back home, someone will give Cay…Casey the Mother of the Year award for all of this, because when mothers across the United States, or fathers, or grandmothers, or whatever find out what she’s done to protect her child, they’re gonna, they’re going to say ‘Oh my God, that poor girl.’ ”

Cindy thinks Casey is the Mother of the Year, yet she told Amy, Ryan and Tone:

page 23 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Huizenga,%20Amy0821.pdf
Amy: We only had a limited amount of time to talk. Um, and so she’s* telling me all this how like Casey had been stealing money from her for years. How she had stolen money from her eighty year old grandmother by using a routing number on a birthday check and like all of this stuff. And I was like so that’s where my four hundred dollars went.

page 15 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Pasley,%20Ryan0730.pdf
Ryan: Uhm, so she* actually phys…she just called me. Her mom called me uhm, you know, uh, in my summer semester, at one of my classes. I remember the specific time and what I was doing. And she basically told me, “I don’t, I don’t think it’s a good idea that you even talk to Casey anymore because she’s a,” uh, the actually, those are the exact words that came out of her mouth was that she was a sociopath.

page 30 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540075.pdf
Tone: And uhm, she* came in and she goes, "I hope you're rich because Casey's going to take all your money and leave you high and dry."

*she = Cindy

jmo

[Scampi]

you miss my point. you said she couldn't come up with a lie - well, she lied for 31 days. it is my firm belief that if cindy hadn't gotten angry that the car was towed and it was costing her money, kc would have gone gaily on her way - no one ever the wiser.

i am also still of the firm opinion that it was money that made cindy call le - not missing caylee.

here is a grandparent who says she ADORES her grandchild, but doesn't care that she doesn't see/hear from her for a month and takes no action whatsoever to determine her true location. yep - it took the fact that a car was towed to get her to phone the police and mention that caylee was missing.

nope - something smells fishy to me.

You're right, the catalyst for cynthia to finally act was the 500 plus dollars it cost to get the car out of impound.

[Januarybaby]

I do not RECALL a tag team of news reporters with 24 hour surveillance on each of their homes and an army of followers camping out on their door steps throwing rocks either, do you?

A world of difference there for sure. If George and Cindy had been afforded proper protection from these acts, you may too have seen a different side of them,but we will never know now,will we.

Oh we go back to class, what again is the etiquette to follow when reporting a missing person and all that follows ( considering the scope of the MEDIA frenzy ) Can I find that under GOOGLE somewhere?

They didnt obstruct justice, lie, steal, give police a run around etc, thats why they didnt get the treatment the Anthonys got. They worked with police and gave them all the info and anything else they could. It has nothing to do with protection.

[denjet]

Well then let me take on that task. They chose the path they are on. Not just my opinion my observation.

ITA
They most certainly did and speaking for myself if I were to be in the same situation as they A's found themselves in, I don't really know how I would react but I know what I wouldn't do ... act like the A's have ... and also, "no comment" would have been my daily mantra !!

The pathetic part is they have hurt their daughter's case more than they have helped it and don't even realize it ... :rolleyes:

[Dtviewer3]

What do you suppose may have been the plan that got squashed, considering the detail you went in to here. I am always interested in others points of views, its why I read the message boards. I also like to thrown in my nickle too. Please don't stop now,I am listening.


I think, and I said it before, that she was going to head to Cali. and tell Mark her mother had Caylee.

I just think she was too infatuated with Tony and that is why she was still sticking around when Cindy tracked her down.

(remember all her doodling notes 'Casey Lazzarro, etc etc.')

[KP1935]

Just for sake of the discussion concerning Cindy and George, Lee too I suppose. I wonder if they were concerned what appearance or what anyone thought in any moment? I doubt it seriously,it would have been the last thing they cared about and it shows, right. WHO in the trenches of despair cares,I know I wouldn't!

I see all over the internet contradictions as to their behavior. Some are shouting they have no class,others saying they put on a front,playing the proper roles.

I mean it gets confusing. Thankfully I have an able bodied mind and can see that in the moments leading up to the 911 calls till this day
( how long has it been now) a long time for sure, that CLASS and then contradictions that follow such as putting on fronts are just angry people, with good reasons,but at the same time these contradictions of the public lashing out ,the demands of the public onto Cindy, George and Lee are atrocious.


What is the proper stance, more importantly who cares, we all have certain anxiety producing differences that dictate how we REACT or ACT or do not act. ( flight or fight response) Do you FLEE as Casey may have ( F LIGHT ) or do you F IGHT ? Like Cindy did. Mothers tend to F IGHT for their off spring, lest we not forget Cindy is the mother, she was not only the mother she was the Grand Mother.

Soul searching is EASY to do when its not your own soul your searching at the moment and in battle with this army searching for answers while in the depths of despair with an Army coming at you full force.

Not an easy task by any stretch. I will not judge these people in their time of despair, just can't go there.

More power to those of you who know how well you would react in same scenarios, how much class you would be judged to have. What strikes me is that anyone would mention CLASS in the scope of the situation.

Their time of despair? Their only despair was seeing their daughter in jail. There was no despair for their granddaughter, just lies and misdirection to LE. Are you trying to say Cindy was in despair as she cleaned the car of any evidence that might have been helpful in FINDING THEIR GRANDDAUGHTER??? Oh no, that's right, she went back to work!!!

[sammy62]

Every time Cindy and George go on tv, or get interviewed, or open their mouth...they are putting another nail in Casey's coffin. But my opinion is...thats their plan.

[desmom]

EXACTLY, you have said it yourself. Casey had lied about her where abouts, came up with stuff on a moments notice, yet had 31 days and did not have a story plotted out and had 31 days to make one up.

TY

IMO, Casey flies by the seat of her pants, functions under the outta sight-outta mind attitude and lives for the moment, worries about tomorrow when it gets here.

[seeing_eye]

I do not RECALL a tag team of news reporters with 24 hour surveillance on each of their homes and an army of followers camping out on their door steps throwing rocks either, do you?

A world of difference there for sure. If George and Cindy had been afforded proper protection from these acts, you may too have seen a different side of them,but we will never know now,will we.

Oh we go back to class, what again is the etiquette to follow when reporting a missing person and all that follows ( considering the scope of the MEDIA frenzy ) Can I find that under GOOGLE somewhere?

They didn't have an army of people camping out on their door steps throwing rocks at them because they were all cooperating with LE in the investigation of their missing family member, even going so far as to take lie detector tests. They wanted to assist LE in finding their missing family member, not obstruct their efforts. No one had any reason to throw rocks at them. And I think that is a great definition of "class."

[denjet]

EXACTLY, you have said it yourself. Casey had lied about her where abouts, came up with stuff on a moments notice, yet had 31 days and did not have a story plotted out and had 31 days to make one up.

TY
She didn't need to ... mommy always cleaned up her "messes" :sneaky:

[Anakerie]

thanks, summer -- I'll look for it. :laugh:

ETA: found it http://caseydidntdoit.blogspot.com/2009/01/in-june-casey-had-huge-fight-with-her.html

ETA again--not sure that's the right one though.
I think thats the one I've seen posts about.. I've tried to read over there a time or two, but the blog author has created a blog that gives me a headache when I attempt to read any of the "stories" she writes. The colors against the black background, the lack of paragraphs and so on hurts my eyes and that makes my head ache. I can't usually get beyond the first few sentences before I give up and close the tab.

:shrug: I have no idea if that blogger ever writes anything remotely resembling the truth.

[Darcy]

EXACTLY, you have said it yourself. Casey had lied about her where abouts, came up with stuff on a moments notice, yet had 31 days and did not have a story plotted out and had 31 days to make one up.

TY




BlueMartini, Jeez, that's what you get when you procrastinate. Casey was so busy partying that she indeed lost the 'plot' and then had to rely on Cindy to work out the 'fine details'. Deny, deceive, deflect, distract and distance yourself from the 'terminal event', you will be fine Casey. :scared:

[sydney]

BlueMartini, Jeez, that's what you get when you procrastinate. Casey was so busy partying that she indeed lost the 'plot' and then had to rely on Cindy to work out the 'fine details'. Deny, deceive, deflect, distract and distance yourself from the 'terminal event', you will be fine Casey. :scared:

thanks, darcy - you said it so much better than me.

[sydney]

so, does anyone have an opinion on tattoos?

[Januarybaby]

This is what I found on Google about the meaning of someone having "class". It has different meanings but the one we are refering to is described as:

http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/class_act.htm

Someone who shows impressive and Stylish excellence

http://books.google.com/books?id=PbeVt57B_OUC&pg=PA307&lpg=PA307&dq=What+the+meaning+of+someone+having+class&source=bl&ots=fxxqipov5X&sig=P0WH1ezLmAOLBLSHIi2DRIibTfI&hl=en&ei=seHxSsnaOYLDlAfuwaS9Aw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CCQQ6AEwCA#

If we refer to someone as having "class" or a "class" act, we mean we admire them and feel we can depend on them.

[Januarybaby]

so, does anyone have an opinion on tattoos?

I dont mind them ( have 3 myself) when done in taste.

[seeing_eye]

I dont mind them ( have 3 myself) when done in taste.

What if they're huge and ugly? :confused:

[margaritaville]

Perhaps the defense thinks that if they drag this trial into the next millennium, the smell in the trunk will dissipate. They know that jurors will get a wiff and then those 12 people, can store that horrible smell in their memory banks just like George did as a cop and Cindy did as a nurse. They'll never be able to forget it either.


Does it really matter if the car still smells at the time of the trial?
If I was on the jury and learn about the "grave wax" on the papertowels found in the trunk of the car along with pictures of the huge stain... Would be proof enough for me that she decomposed in the trunk of that car. I would not need or want to actually have to smell it.

MOO

[Januarybaby]

What if they're huge and ugly? :confused:

I guess that depends on a persons perception....LOL

The Anthonys as I saw them are not done in good taste



( LOVE your signature as a proud owner of 9 stray cats, 1 epileptic dog no one wanted and a parakeet that was abandoned (all are spayed and neutered))

[seeing_eye]

No, you missed my point. We all know she lied,I state she did not have a story, a plot, a script , a lie in place for where Casey would tell what happened to Caylee, surely that day was coming and surely someone as cunning as Casey would have thought it out. Did i not read that Casey made fake email addresses for years supposedly where she corresponded with a Tom Franc on where her next event would be for work. See so you have to look at the full scope and pattern, Casey should have been able to come up with some plan or other as to what to say, she had 31 days to do so, and did not.

Casey was a high school drop out, FGS! She was not very cunning or smart at all.

[Dtviewer3]

No, you missed my point. We all know she lied,I state she did not have a story, a plot, a script , a lie in place for where Casey would tell what happened to Caylee, surely that day was coming and surely someone as cunning as Casey would have thought it out. Did i not read that Casey made fake email addresses for years supposedly where she corresponded with a Tom Franc on where her next event would be for work. See so you have to look at the full scope and pattern, Casey should have been able to come up with some plan or other as to what to say, she had 31 days to do so, and did not.


Did you not read where Casey brought the police all the way to Universal Studios to prove she had a job?

Guess she did fly by the seat of her pants just like LEE said she did.
He said when she was cornered with a lie she would just make up another, and then another when she was caught on that one.

[Katprint]

No, you missed my point. We all know she lied,I state she did not have a story, a plot, a script , a lie in place for where Casey would tell what happened to Caylee, surely that day was coming and surely someone as cunning as Casey would have thought it out. Did i not read that Casey made fake email addresses for years supposedly where she corresponded with a Tom Franc on where her next event would be for work. See so you have to look at the full scope and pattern, Casey should have been able to come up with some plan or other as to what to say, she had 31 days to do so, and did not.
You must have missed the part of Casey's story where Casey said that Caylee was kidnapped by Zenaida aka Zanny the Nanny. Casey thought she only had to fool Cindy who has a long and sad history of being easily fooled by Casey (7 month pregnant belly is PMS water retention, 1/2 credit short of graduation, working at sporting good store then Universal Studios, etc.) thus the story didn't need to be exceptionally convincing. Casey didn't expect to be cross-examined by the police who apparently are not so easily fooled as Cindy.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[seeing_eye]

My dentist shows a lot of class too when in his professional environment, but get him out to the Martini Bar and poof, its all out the window!

Lets please keep in context the details I laid out concerning same.

Class is not something one is concerned with in the trenches of a tragedy.

BBM
The reaction of a person in the "trenches of a tragedy" will reflect whatever class (or lack of) was previously embedded in that person's personality.

[sydney]

No, you missed my point. We all know she lied,I state she did not have a story, a plot, a script , a lie in place for where Casey would tell what happened to Caylee, surely that day was coming and surely someone as cunning as Casey would have thought it out. Did i not read that Casey made fake email addresses for years supposedly where she corresponded with a Tom Franc on where her next event would be for work. See so you have to look at the full scope and pattern, Casey should have been able to come up with some plan or other as to what to say, she had 31 days to do so, and did not.

i respectfully disagree. from what i've seen, she's not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer (not cunning in any sense of the word). in that respect, the apple sure didn't fall far from the tree.

but, she DID have an end-story for what happened to caylee. set up three years beforehand, according to cindy. yep - it was all so simple. create an invisinanny who is also your "friend", who you spend an inordinate amount of time with, who takes over the care of your child (with you apparently not giving a rap) and there is your culprit. the 'rents would back you up and no problemo. caylee is gone, nowhere to be found, the invisinanny prolly left the country. oh well - let's move on.

[desmom]

No, you missed my point. We all know she lied,I state she did not have a story, a plot, a script , a lie in place for where Casey would tell what happened to Caylee, surely that day was coming and surely someone as cunning as Casey would have thought it out. Did i not read that Casey made fake email addresses for years supposedly where she corresponded with a Tom Franc on where her next event would be for work. See so you have to look at the full scope and pattern, Casey should have been able to come up with some plan or other as to what to say, she had 31 days to do so, and did not.

She did have a plan. Page 30 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/Anthony%20pgs%202751-2800%20f.pdf

and she even had a back up plan - page 186 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel
Ms. Anthony told Mr. Hawkins that she was planning a trip to California and she needed to tell him something.

jmo

[sydney]

What if they're huge and ugly? :confused:

what if they are poor replications of a person you love?

[Dtviewer3]

You must have missed the part of Casey's story where Casey said that Caylee was kidnapped by Zenaida aka Zanny the Nanny. Casey thought she only had to fool Cindy who has a long and sad history of being easily fooled by Casey (7 month pregnant belly is PMS water retention, 1/2 credit short of graduation, working at sporting good store then Universal Studios, etc.) thus the story didn't need to be exceptionally convincing. Casey didn't expect to be cross-examined by the police who apparently are not so easily fooled as Cindy.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

You forgot the one where Casey 'paid back' money she stole from the Anthony's with fake deposit slips.

Yep, fooled Cindy with that one until the checks started bouncing.

(Guess that also could be looked at as an example of Casey not planning ahead, since Cindy would certainly find out some time!)

[trich]

Well personally I do not care for them.But I will admit that a couple of my grandsons have them.
Oh I forgot my son has one too.
I wonder what all the young ladies tats are going to look like
when they get to my age....It is not a pleasant thought.:unsure:
But I guess to each his own.

[Januarybaby]

Well personally I do not care for them.But I will admit that a couple of my grandsons have them.
Oh I forgot my son has one too.
I wonder what all the young ladies tats are going to look like
when they get to my age....It is not a pleasant thought.:unsure:
But I guess to each his own.

Hi Trich,

I have mine in spots where no one will c them but me and my husband. If I didnt my mother would rub them off with Brillo after she yells at me again about all those times she put baby lotion on me to take care of my skin. :blushing:

[seeing_eye]

You forgot the one where Casey 'paid back' money she stole from the Anthony's with fake deposit slips.

Yep, fooled Cindy with that one until the checks started bouncing.

(Guess that also could be looked at as an example of Casey not planning ahead, since Cindy would certainly find out some time!)

Casey has had many years of not planning ahead. Maybe for ten minutes, but not for more than that.

[margaritaville]

They didn't have an army of people camping out on their door steps throwing rocks at them because they were all cooperating with LE in the investigation of their missing family member, even going so far as to take lie detector tests. They wanted to assist LE in finding their missing family member, not obstruct their efforts. No one had any reason to throw rocks at them. And I think that is a great definition of "class."


And when asked to give a hairbrush
I would bet they gave the right one, unlike Cindy...
Remember Cindy's comments about the toothbrush " I should have given them the dogs"
I thought she wanted to find her missing Granddaughter!
Their actions speak volumes....

[Januarybaby]

And when asked to give a hairbrush
I would bet they gave the right one, unlike Cindy...
Remember Cindy's comments about the toothbrush " I should have given them the dogs"
I thought she wanted to find her missing Granddaughter!
Their actions speak volumes....

I was thinking about posting the same :w00t:

[powerball]

Hi Trich,

I have mine in spots where no one will c them but me and my husband. If I didnt my mother would rub them off with Brillo after she yells at me again about all those times she put baby lotion on me to take care of my skin. :blushing:


Less is more I think. I don't have any but I dont have a problem with an appropiate size tattoo, however when you turn into a billboard for the satalites out in space to view. :thumbdown:

[sammy62]

so, does anyone have an opinion on tattoos?

I detest tattoos. sorry January.
Especially someone who is over the hill and trying to look like a teeniebobber in a bikini and tattoo at 50 years old.

[Tia]

Just for sake of the discussion concerning Cindy and George, Lee too I suppose. I wonder if they were concerned what appearance or what anyone thought in any moment? I doubt it seriously,it would have been the last thing they cared about and it shows, right. WHO in the trenches of despair cares,I know I wouldn't!

I see all over the internet contradictions as to their behavior. Some are shouting they have no class,others saying they put on a front,playing the proper roles.

I mean it gets confusing. Thankfully I have an able bodied mind and can see that in the moments leading up to the 911 calls till this day
( how long has it been now) a long time for sure, that CLASS and then contradictions that follow such as putting on fronts are just angry people, with good reasons,but at the same time these contradictions of the public lashing out ,the demands of the public onto Cindy, George and Lee are atrocious.


What is the proper stance, more importantly who cares, we all have certain anxiety producing differences that dictate how we REACT or ACT or do not act. ( flight or fight response) Do you FLEE as Casey may have ( F LIGHT ) or do you F IGHT ? Like Cindy did. Mothers tend to F IGHT for their off spring, lest we not forget Cindy is the mother, she was not only the mother she was the Grand Mother.

Soul searching is EASY to do when its not your own soul your searching at the moment and in battle with this army searching for answers while in the depths of despair with an Army coming at you full force.

Not an easy task by any stretch. I will not judge these people in their time of despair, just can't go there.

More power to those of you who know how well you would react in same scenarios, how much class you would be judged to have. What strikes me is that anyone would mention CLASS in the scope of the situation.

Sharon Rocha managed to grieve for her daughter Laci with dignity. She didn't call people names, didn't lie repeatedly, didn't insult the people who were searching for her daughter....I could go on and on. Its just my opinion that the Anthony's are classless and tasteless-I have formed this opinion by observing them for over a year now. You don't have to agree.

:wink:

[Ladygator]

No, you missed my point. We all know she lied,I state she did not have a story, a plot, a script , a lie in place for where Casey would tell what happened to Caylee, surely that day was coming and surely someone as cunning as Casey would have thought it out. Did i not read that Casey made fake email addresses for years supposedly where she corresponded with a Tom Franc on where her next event would be for work. See so you have to look at the full scope and pattern, Casey should have been able to come up with some plan or other as to what to say, she had 31 days to do so, and did not.

I think Casey was toying around with ideas for those 31 days. But there is a huge difference between lying to people about your job and coming up with a story that can pan out as to who killed your child, other than yourself.

Casey realized that, IMO. She didn't want to get the ball rolling. She didn't want anyone to know. So she evaded the situation.

When her Mom rolled up on her she was forced to blurt out one of those 'stories' she toyed with, right then and there.

Those flurry of calls she made to her parents - maybe she was going to lie and tell them something happened to Caylee. That Caylee vanished. She couldn't find her. Someone must have came in and took her while she was in the shower. But since nobody answered, her moment was gone.

Casey wasn't a good liar. She just had no problem telling the lies. Look at the far fetched Zanny in the hospital over in Tampa story. She gets caught by George with the gas cans and says she doesn't want to run out of gas on her way to and from. HA? WHAT? That's what gas stations are for.

[sammy62]

Well personally I do not care for them.But I will admit that a couple of my grandsons have them.
Oh I forgot my son has one too.
I wonder what all the young ladies tats are going to look like
when they get to my age....It is not a pleasant thought.:unsure:
But I guess to each his own.

Heard a woman comedian one night say. Wait till those darling rosebuds on their chest turn into long stemmed roses when they are 50

[Dtviewer3]

Really you think so? I find myself in NEW situations all the time and am surprised at how I re-act or don't re-act there are times when I say to myself, now would did I not say something, why did I not stand up for myself, when typically I would have, but again the answer is the scenario was NEW to me, so I had nothing to fall back on, you see.

Likewise there are other times where I have acted and wondered WHY I did act the way I did, if I thought it was too dramatic or not dramatic enough, or other, when I had faced similar in the past.

I guess it depends on hormones, what day of the week, who it is, well SEE that leaves it wide open, hey I am human and we aren't always perfect now are we?

I find much fault in your theory and hope I have explained it well enough for grasping.


Its not new anymore.

I felt bad and could understand their actions when this tragedy first happened.
But there is NO excuse to be lying and changing stories over a year later.

None.

[minimarshm]

More then just a whiff, an intense stink. I was just reviewing some old video of people discussing this case and one of them had Tennis on, who opined that the accused babykiller was off mentally, iirc.

How many more lawyers are going to hop aboard the gravy train before this thing gets to the courtroom?

The casey anthony case is its own little stimulus bill down there in Florida, imo.


I would hope that with the many many attys Casey Anthony has at least one or two of them could be doing something to prepare for trial

[*MoonRider*]

She didn't need to ... mommy always cleaned up her "messes" :sneaky:

As Dr. Phil would say "how did that work out for you Cindy?"

[trich]

BBM
The reaction of a person in the "trenches of a tragedy" will reflect whatever class (or lack of) was previously embedded in that person's personality.


How right you are.
How we deal with adversity is the true measure of a person's character.



And we all know what the Anthonys have proven.....
Their character is severely lacking.

[powerball]

Really you think so? I find myself in NEW situations all the time and am surprised at how I re-act or don't re-act there are times when I say to myself, now would did I not say something, why did I not stand up for myself, when typically I would have, but again the answer is the scenario was NEW to me, so I had nothing to fall back on, you see.

Likewise there are other times where I have acted and wondered WHY I did act the way I did, if I thought it was too dramatic or not dramatic enough, or other, when I had faced similar in the past.

I guess it depends on hormones, what day of the week, who it is, well SEE that leaves it wide open, hey I am human and we aren't always perfect now are we?

I find much fault in your theory and hope I have explained it well enough for grasping.

Bolding mine.. what exactly is meant by this:confused:

[margaritaville]

Casey has had many years of not planning ahead. Maybe for ten minutes, but not for more than that.

But if we think about all that she has told LE while at universal, she had thought about some of it..
Like her missing phone.. You know the one given to her by her job, the one she left on her desk. that was the phone that had Zanny's number, Mark Hawkins, possibly ZFG mom's number.. All of these people that she told about Caylee being missing their number was on "that missing phone"........
So she did think through the fact that she would not be able to give LE any numbers..
And we all know there is not a missing phone given to her by her job (Universal)...

She did a little planning on the computer.. Researching for Zenaida's...Making ZFG a myspace account...She was working on it.. I think she may have been a little side tracked with TonE.....MOO

[seeing_eye]

Really you think so? I find myself in NEW situations all the time and am surprised at how I re-act or don't re-act there are times when I say to myself, now would did I not say something, why did I not stand up for myself, when typically I would have, but again the answer is the scenario was NEW to me, so I had nothing to fall back on, you see.

Likewise there are other times where I have acted and wondered WHY I did act the way I did, if I thought it was too dramatic or not dramatic enough, or other, when I had faced similar in the past.

I guess it depends on hormones, what day of the week, who it is, well SEE that leaves it wide open, hey I am human and we aren't always perfect now are we?

I find much fault in your theory and hope I have explained it well enough for grasping.

BBM
Yes, I really think so. I've had over 70 years of experience in viewing my own actions and reactions to varying scenarios, as well as the actions and reactions of people with whom I have been acquainted. And it's been my experience that people react under stress according to the type of character that they already possess.

[AnnieKins]

Just for sake of the discussion concerning Cindy and George, Lee too I suppose. I wonder if they were concerned what appearance or what anyone thought in any moment? I doubt it seriously,it would have been the last thing they cared about and it shows, right. WHO in the trenches of despair cares,I know I wouldn't!

I see all over the internet contradictions as to their behavior. Some are shouting they have no class,others saying they put on a front,playing the proper roles.

I mean it gets confusing. Thankfully I have an able bodied mind and can see that in the moments leading up to the 911 calls till this day
( how long has it been now) a long time for sure, that CLASS and then contradictions that follow such as putting on fronts are just angry people, with good reasons,but at the same time these contradictions of the public lashing out ,the demands of the public onto Cindy, George and Lee are atrocious.

What is the proper stance, more importantly who cares, we all have certain anxiety producing differences that dictate how we REACT or ACT or do not act. ( flight or fight response) Do you FLEE as Casey may have ( F LIGHT ) or do you F IGHT ? Like Cindy did. Mothers tend to F IGHT for their off spring, lest we not forget Cindy is the mother, she was not only the mother she was the Grand Mother.

Soul searching is EASY to do when its not your own soul your searching at the moment and in battle with this army searching for answers while in the depths of despair with an Army coming at you full force.

Not an easy task by any stretch. I will not judge these people in their time of despair, just can't go there.

More power to those of you who know how well you would react in same scenarios, how much class you would be judged to have. What strikes me is that anyone would mention CLASS in the scope of the situation.

You seem to be contradicting yourself there, BM. :smile:

One one hand you say that people have a right to be angry with the Anthonys and on the other hand you say you can't judge them. If you don't make yourself a bit more clear on this, one could suppose that all you want to do is have an argument. That's not what this board is about. But thanks anyway.

[Januarybaby]

BBM
Yes, I really think so. I've had over 70 years of experience in viewing my own actions and reactions to varying scenarios, as well as the actions and reactions of people with whom I have been acquainted. And it's been my experience that people react under stress according to the type of character that they already possess.

Bravo! With age comes experience.

[Spots]

I do not RECALL a tag team of news reporters with 24 hour surveillance on each of their homes and an army of followers camping out on their door steps throwing rocks either, do you?

A world of difference there for sure. If George and Cindy had been afforded proper protection from these acts, you may too have seen a different side of them,but we will never know now,will we.

Oh we go back to class, what again is the etiquette to follow when reporting a missing person and all that follows ( considering the scope of the MEDIA frenzy ) Can I find that under GOOGLE somewhere?

Oh, don't strain yourself. Allow me:

Etiquette to Follow (http://www.emilypost.com/)

[AnnieKins]

Well then let me take on that task. They chose the path they are on. Not just my opinion my observation.

Amen, Witness!

Tell us a few tales of what it's like to be their neighbour... :scared:

[AnnieKins]

I do not RECALL a tag team of news reporters with 24 hour surveillance on each of their homes and an army of followers camping out on their door steps throwing rocks either, do you?

A world of difference there for sure. If George and Cindy had been afforded proper protection from these acts, you may too have seen a different side of them,but we will never know now,will we.

Oh we go back to class, what again is the etiquette to follow when reporting a missing person and all that follows ( considering the scope of the MEDIA frenzy ) Can I find that under GOOGLE somewhere?

Forget "class". Go ahead and google "common sense" and "telling the truth".

[Januarybaby]

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More power to those of you who know how well you would react in same scenarios, how much class you would be judged to have. What strikes me is that anyone would mention CLASS in the scope of the situation.

I have been in tha same situation with a missing child. We cooperated with police, gave evidence, and did anything else they wanted and it WAS a family member who did it. We never lied, covered up, or did anything Casey or her parents did. She was found in a creek in a trash bag and when the police wanted the bags from the house we certainly gave them. We also recognized he did it and we let him take his lumps, we didnt lie for him or cover up anything.

[minimarshm]

No, you missed my point. We all know she lied,I state she did not have a story, a plot, a script , a lie in place for where Casey would tell what happened to Caylee, surely that day was coming and surely someone as cunning as Casey would have thought it out. Did i not read that Casey made fake email addresses for years supposedly where she corresponded with a Tom Franc on where her next event would be for work. See so you have to look at the full scope and pattern, Casey should have been able to come up with some plan or other as to what to say, she had 31 days to do so, and did not.



you think she "should have been able to" but didn't and that's what you're basing your belief in her innocence on?

do you really think she couldn't have done it because she didn't come up with a good enough lie about what happened?

[AnnieKins]

ITA
They most certainly did and speaking for myself if I were to be in the same situation as they A's found themselves in, I don't really know how I would react but I know what I wouldn't do ... act like the A's have ... and also, "no comment" would have been my daily mantra !!

The pathetic part is they have hurt their daughter's case more than they have helped it and don't even realize it ... :rolleyes:

That thought makes me feel almost giddy! :rolleyes:

[minimarshm]

Does it really matter if the car still smells at the time of the trial?
If I was on the jury and learn about the "grave wax" on the papertowels found in the trunk of the car along with pictures of the huge stain... Would be proof enough for me that she decomposed in the trunk of that car. I would not need or want to actually have to smell it.

MOO

if you've ever smelled a rotting dead body then you know that it's a smell you can't ever febreeze away. I'vbe smelled a rotten dead body from a distance and it's a whole different kind of stench. I think the car will still reek but you're right, it wouldn't matter if it didn't.

[kakax]

Well then let me take on that task. They chose the path they are on. Not just my opinion my observation.

Amen, sister! :thumbsup:

[PuffDragon]

No, you missed my point. We all know she lied,I state she did not have a story, a plot, a script , a lie in place for where Casey would tell what happened to Caylee, surely that day was coming and surely someone as cunning as Casey would have thought it out. Did i not read that Casey made fake email addresses for years supposedly where she corresponded with a Tom Franc on where her next event would be for work. See so you have to look at the full scope and pattern, Casey should have been able to come up with some plan or other as to what to say, she had 31 days to do so, and did not.

I'd guess that you haven't had much contact with sociopaths, Blue. They don't plan ahead because they have total confidence in their ability to improvise a great story on the spur of the moment. Most people who have been their victims already don't bother to call them on anything, it isn't worth it and gets nobody anywhere. The sociopath's belief in himself is then reinforced. He doesn't even care whether or not you believe him (which explains why he never puts very much thought into his lies) as long as it's enough to keep you from challenging him on it. And you don't. Nobody does. It's fruitless, and if they didn't know that to start with they learn it pretty fast.

Casey was not cunning. She wasn't smart. She put up little warnings that said "don't challenge me in this area" and nobody did. Those emails were probably as much warnings as they were "proof" that she was working, in that they as much as said, "I know you're checking up on me and I'm three steps ahead of you. So don't bother."

Once you know how a sociopath behaves, Casey's behavior all makes sense.

[Spots]

My dentist shows a lot of class too when in his professional environment, but get him out to the Martini Bar and poof, its all out the window!

Lets please keep in context the details I laid out concerning same.

Class is not something one is concerned with in the trenches of a tragedy.

That is exactly when class - or the lack of class - becomes the most obvious.

[AnnieKins]

What if they're huge and ugly? :confused:

What if they're on 55 year old people who used blood money to get them? :scared:

[AnnieKins]

BBM
The reaction of a person in the "trenches of a tragedy" will reflect whatever class (or lack of) was previously embedded in that person's personality.

Post of the Month! :thumbsup:

[Januarybaby]

ITA
They most certainly did and speaking for myself if I were to be in the same situation as they A's found themselves in, I don't really know how I would react but I know what I wouldn't do ... act like the A's have ... and also, "no comment" would have been my daily mantra !!

The pathetic part is they have hurt their daughter's case more than they have helped it and don't even realize it ... :rolleyes:

We didnt talk to the media either Denjet. Even during the trial "No Comment" was heard over and over. Everything went smoothly and she was found 2 days later. No one talked to the media after the trial also.

[minimarshm]

Bolding mine.. what exactly is meant by this:confused:

iit's supposed to be a thinly veiled insult that will set you off causing you to do something bannable, just shrug it off and laugh.

[Dtviewer3]

iit's supposed to be a thinly veiled insult that will set you off causing you to do something bannable, just shrug it off and laugh.

I love Marsmallows, no matter what size they are........

[powerball]

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I have been in tha same situation with a missing child. We cooperated with police, gave evidence, and did anything else they wanted and it WAS a family member who did it. We never lied, covered up, or did anything Casey or her parents did. She was found in a creek in a trash bag and when the police wanted the bags from the house we certainly gave them. We also recognized he did it and we let him take his lumps, we didnt lie for him or cover up anything.

I do remember the story from before :crying: but I don't think Martini will comment because it does not fit her/him point. It is kindof like when Cindy always makes those comments. Everybody does it. sorry for you loss.

[minimarshm]

I'd guess that you haven't had much contact with sociopaths, Blue. They don't plan ahead because they have total confidence in their ability to improvise a great story on the spur of the moment. Most people who have been their victims already don't bother to call them on anything, it isn't worth it and gets nobody anywhere. The sociopath's belief in himself is then reinforced. He doesn't even care whether or not you believe him (which explains why he never puts very much thought into his lies) as long as it's enough to keep you from challenging him on it. And you don't. Nobody does. It's fruitless, and if they didn't know that to start with they learn it pretty fast.

Casey was not cunning. She wasn't smart. She put up little warnings that said "don't challenge me in this area" and nobody did. Those emails were probably as much warnings as they were "proof" that she was working, in that they as much as said, "I know you're checking up on me and I'm three steps ahead of you. So don't bother."

Once you know how a sociopath behaves, Casey's behavior all makes sense.


I also feel that her Mother was happy to accept any excuses or lies to avoid the inevidible temper fit from Casey. George seemed to want to call Casey to task over the years but wasn't allowed to by Cindy. Their depo.s show that. Cindy doesn't seem dumb or easily fooled, she may have simpley chose to accept Casey's stories to keep the peace in home.

[crimeq]

You're right, the catalyst for cynthia to finally act was the 500 plus dollars it cost to get the car out of impound.

Yes, scampi, I agree with you and Syd. MONEY will make Cindy move.

[Spots]

BBM
Yes, I really think so. I've had over 70 years of experience in viewing my own actions and reactions to varying scenarios, as well as the actions and reactions of people with whom I have been acquainted. And it's been my experience that people react under stress according to the type of character that they already possess.

:thumbsup:

Second the motion.

[AnnieKins]

Bolding mine.. what exactly is meant by this:confused:

I think it means that BM thinks she's superiour to us FLaBs and she must talk down to us in order for us to comprehend her extreme wisdom. Cindy? Stat you?

[powerball]

iit's supposed to be a thinly veiled insult that will set you off causing you to do something bannable, just shrug it off and laugh.

ok :shrug: got it:lol: (I thought thats what it was)

[Katprint]

if you've ever smelled a rotting dead body then you know that it's a smell you can't ever febreeze away. I'vbe smelled a rotten dead body from a distance and it's a whole different kind of stench. I think the car will still reek but you're right, it wouldn't matter if it didn't.
When my mother passed away, her body wasn't discovered until the next day. There was already some decomp smell presumably from the bedroom carpet area where her body had lain. We had to hire a special decontamination team kind of like this company http://www.crimescenecleanup911.com/decomposition.htm although that was not the company we used - I no longer recall which company it was. They were successful in cleaning the area so that it no longer smelled of human decomp but I don't know how they did it or what chemicals they used.

Presumably they could clean up a car too.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[bugout]

Casey was a high school drop out, FGS! She was not very cunning or smart at all.

So was Bill Gates. In no way does not graduating mean a person has diminished capacity. FGS!

[PuffDragon]

I also feel that her Mother was happy to accept any excuses or lies to avoid the inevidible temper fit from Casey. George seemed to want to call Casey to task over the years but wasn't allowed to by Cindy. Their depo.s show that. Cindy doesn't seem dumb or easily fooled, she may have simpley chose to accept Casey's stories to keep the peace in home.

I'm in complete agreement!

[Spots]

So was Bill Gates. In no way does not graduating mean a person has diminished capacity. FGS!

Bill Gates graduated from Lakeside School in 1973.

He did not graduate from Harvard University, but dropped out to run his new company.

Difference. Huge difference.

Bill Gates (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates)

[minimarshm]

When my mother passed away, her body wasn't discovered until the next day. There was already some decomp smell presumably from the bedroom carpet area where her body had lain. We had to hire a special decontamination team kind of like this company http://www.crimescenecleanup911.com/decomposition.htm although that was not the company we used - I no longer recall which company it was. They were successful in cleaning the area so that it no longer smelled of human decomp but I don't know how they did it or what chemicals they used.

Presumably they could clean up a car too.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions


Thanks Kat, you've set me straight because it was the car's carpet I was thinking of.


isn't the car still in police custody? they wouldn't clean it if it's part of the evidence.

[AnnieKins]

So was Bill Gates. In no way does not graduating mean a person has diminished capacity. FGS!

Not graduating high school is one thing, but not getting your diploma because you're half a credit short? I don't even know how to define something that ridiculous.

[Anakerie]

BBM
Yes, I really think so. I've had over 70 years of experience in viewing my own actions and reactions to varying scenarios, as well as the actions and reactions of people with whom I have been acquainted. And it's been my experience that people react under stress according to the type of character that they already possess.
I've observed the same thing, Seeing_Eye. Character (or class) is either there or it isn't. Stress isn't going to change the underlying character of a person.

[crimeq]

I do not RECALL a tag team of news reporters with 24 hour surveillance on each of their homes and an army of followers camping out on their door steps throwing rocks either, do you?

A world of difference there for sure. If George and Cindy had been afforded proper protection from these acts, you may too have seen a different side of them,but we will never know now,will we.

Oh we go back to class, what again is the etiquette to follow when reporting a missing person and all that follows ( considering the scope of the MEDIA frenzy ) Can I find that under GOOGLE somewhere?

The Anthonys set themselves up as good theater from the get-go. The media isn't stupid; they know what sells. George and Cindy weren't exactly setting themselves us as quiet grievers who wished the public to leave them alone and grieve in silence, or make simple and genuine pleas for the return of their "missing" granddaughter.

Everybody loves a circus and the media knows that! It sells!

My sentiments in NO WAY are meant to make light of the tragic murder of innocent little Caylee Marie Anthony. It is the Anthonys who removed Caylee from the center of her own murder case, and made it all about them and all about the $$$ they could reap from her death.

RIP sweet Caylee Marie Anthony :rose: and may justice serve you.

[seeing_eye]

Post of the Month! :thumbsup:

Thanks, Annie. :wub:

[seeing_eye]

We didnt talk to the media either Denjet. Even during the trial "No Comment" was heard over and over. Everything went smoothly and she was found 2 days later. No one talked to the media after the trial also.

Now that is the perfect picture of "class." The Anthonys should take lessons.

[KP1935]

Now that is the perfect picture of "class." The Anthonys should take lessons.

We all know that isn't going to happen. They will walk right out of the courthouse after the OC hears "GUILTY" and say the jury got it wrong and that Casey is innocent. Cindy might even throw out a statement like 'The jury was filled with a bunch of FLBs!" :biggrin:

[denjet]

I'd guess that you haven't had much contact with sociopaths, Blue. They don't plan ahead because they have total confidence in their ability to improvise a great story on the spur of the moment. Most people who have been their victims already don't bother to call them on anything, it isn't worth it and gets nobody anywhere. The sociopath's belief in himself is then reinforced. He doesn't even care whether or not you believe him (which explains why he never puts very much thought into his lies) as long as it's enough to keep you from challenging him on it. And you don't. Nobody does. It's fruitless, and if they didn't know that to start with they learn it pretty fast.

Casey was not cunning. She wasn't smart. She put up little warnings that said "don't challenge me in this area" and nobody did. Those emails were probably as much warnings as they were "proof" that she was working, in that they as much as said, "I know you're checking up on me and I'm three steps ahead of you. So don't bother."

Once you know how a sociopath behaves, Casey's behavior all makes sense.
That's it in a nutshell, Puff !! ITA ... I think you've captured the "essence" of KC :thumbup:

[seeing_eye]

So was Bill Gates. In no way does not graduating mean a person has diminished capacity. FGS!

How well do I know that! I quit school in the 9th grade. But some people further their education in other ways. Casey didn't seem to me to have the cunning to do that.

[denjet]

whoah ... did someone go from soda pop to the hard stuff :huh:

[Scampi]

We all know that isn't going to happen. They will walk right out of the courthouse after the OC hears "GUILTY" and say the jury got it wrong and that Casey is innocent. Cindy might even throw out a statement like 'The jury was filled with a bunch of FLBs!" :biggrin:

But the beauty of the situation is, that before cynthia can mouth off, she has to participate in the penalty phase of the trial, where she will have to beg this same jury to spare the MOTY's life.

Karma can be a real you know what sometimes............


:patriot:

[seeing_eye]

whoah ... did someone go from soda pop to the hard stuff :huh:

It looks like the same kind of beverage to me. Maybe next it'll be KOOLAID! :scared:

[crimeq]

No, you missed my point. We all know she lied,I state she did not have a story, a plot, a script , a lie in place for where Casey would tell what happened to Caylee, surely that day was coming and surely someone as cunning as Casey would have thought it out. Did i not read that Casey made fake email addresses for years supposedly where she corresponded with a Tom Franc on where her next event would be for work. See so you have to look at the full scope and pattern, Casey should have been able to come up with some plan or other as to what to say, she had 31 days to do so, and did not.

Blue, she came up with dozens of stories. As her situation changed, she came up with more stories.

She had a daily story to give to Cindy. IMO, she did have a plan. She was planning on the car disappearing from Amscot. I think her "master" story was going to be wrapped around the disappearance of that car--a car with her ID in it, and Caylee's baby seat and favorite doll. I believe she had a story created around the act of the car being taken, and the props she'd left in it. (There is simply NO WAY, IMO, that she would have left her purse on the seat of that car if she were not trying to entice a thief. The baby seat and doll could probably be explained away--but not leaving a purse in the front seat.)

She was also working on Mark Hawkins to buy her a ticket to California, and she would have been gone.

Her plans were foiled. Ooops.

[denjet]

We didnt talk to the media either Denjet. Even during the trial "No Comment" was heard over and over. Everything went smoothly and she was found 2 days later. No one talked to the media after the trial also.

I'm sorry for your tragedy, January ... thanks for sharing and yes, that's the way decent folks with morals behave ... :smile:
I'm sure there are many, many more crimes against children that we never hear about, even ones that are solved ... many that are never turned into the circus that this arrogant, self-serving family has done ... I would like to think that there are more people like you than there are like the A's who should be prosecuted along with their daughter

[powerball]

whoah ... did someone go from soda pop to the hard stuff :huh:

Well just between me and you. BM is a the name of a local night club. Thats ok everyone is entitled to there own opinion. :rolleyes: I was wondering if the Legals on this board have weighed in on the motions.

[Januarybaby]

When our missing child was found in the creek we were on the bridge and when they opened the bag 2 days later, we knew it was her in there from standing up there. And like in Florida we were having 90 degree heat at that time, with alot of humidity. You cant mistake it. CIndy and George being a cop and a nurse knew exactly what the smell was.

[crimeq]

My dentist shows a lot of class too when in his professional environment, but get him out to the Martini Bar and poof, its all out the window!

Lets please keep in context the details I laid out concerning same.

Class is not something one is concerned with in the trenches of a tragedy.

OK, how about "self-respect"? Do you think Cindy and George showed that? Furthermore, do you think they showed "respect" to any of the other players in this frenzy?

[Ladygator]

How well do I know that! I quit school in the 9th grade. But some people further their education in other ways. Casey didn't seem to me to have the cunning to do that.

For a young, single Mom, Casey had it made, IMO. She didn't have to struggle for anything. Her parents provided for her and looked after Caylee. And she took advantage of it in all the wrong ways. She could have made a nice life for herself and her Daughter. But she had no ambition. She didn't even work on getting that 1/2 credit to graduate with her class {she knew}.

[Ladygator]

When our missing child was found in the creek we were on the bridge and when they opened the bag 2 days later, we knew it was her in there from standing up there. And like in Florida we were having 90 degree heat at that time, with alot of humidity. You cant mistake it. CIndy and George being a cop and a nurse knew exactly what the smell was.

:sad: Sorry about your Daughter.

[Januarybaby]

How well do I know that! I quit school in the 9th grade. But some people further their education in other ways. Casey didn't seem to me to have the cunning to do that.

So true! I quit school in 9th grade to have a baby. I now have an Associates degree in Criminal Justice as a CST/CSI. ( Went for that because of certain things that happened in my life). Casey just wanted to sit around, grab a man to take care of her and she wouldnt have to strain anything.

[crimeq]

You forgot the one where Casey 'paid back' money she stole from the Anthony's with fake deposit slips.

Yep, fooled Cindy with that one until the checks started bouncing.

(Guess that also could be looked at as an example of Casey not planning ahead, since Cindy would certainly find out some time!)

What exactly is a "fake deposit slip" ? Something that shows a transaction was actually made into the account? A deposit slip that got stamped or marked somehow? What about it made Cindy believe it was real?

[Scampi]

For a young, single Mom, Casey had it made, IMO. She didn't have to struggle for anything. Her parents provided for her and looked after Caylee. And she took advantage of it in all the wrong ways. She could have made a nice life for herself and her Daughter. But she had no ambition. She didn't even work on getting that 1/2 credit to graduate with her class {she knew}.

I think that when cynthia tossed george out of the house, she may have told casey that she would always take care of her and Caylee, in an effort to keep her home.

[Januarybaby]

:sad: Sorry about your Daughter.

Ladygator, ty so much ( and everyone else) it wasnt my daughter but a niece I was helping raise.

[denjet]

It looks like the same kind of beverage to me. Maybe next it'll be KOOLAID! :scared:
LOL I think the KoolAid came before the soda !! :tonguewag:

[*MoonRider*]

whoah ... did someone go from soda pop to the hard stuff :huh:

It is my opinion that it is not the soda pop. The spacing is missing. :lol:

[KP1935]

But the beauty of the situation is, that before cynthia can mouth off, she has to participate in the penalty phase of the trial, where she will have to beg this same jury to spare the MOTY's life.

Karma can be a real you know what sometimes............


:patriot:

Forgot about that, but the penalty phase would probably start the following day, wouldn't it? :confused:

[denjet]

Well just between me and you. BM is a the name of a local night club. Thats ok everyone is entitled to there own opinion. :rolleyes: I was wondering if the Legals on this board have weighed in on the motions.

Really ... interesting, didn't know that ! :wink:

[seeing_eye]

Ladygator, ty so much ( and everyone else) it wasnt my daughter but a niece I was helping raise.

I'm sorry about your niece. So sad.

[crimeq]

Really you think so? I find myself in NEW situations all the time and am surprised at how I re-act or don't re-act there are times when I say to myself, now would did I not say something, why did I not stand up for myself, when typically I would have, but again the answer is the scenario was NEW to me, so I had nothing to fall back on, you see.

Likewise there are other times where I have acted and wondered WHY I did act the way I did, if I thought it was too dramatic or not dramatic enough, or other, when I had faced similar in the past.

I guess it depends on hormones, what day of the week, who it is, well SEE that leaves it wide open, hey I am human and we aren't always perfect now are we?

I find much fault in your theory and hope I have explained it well enough for grasping.

I'm pretty consistent in how I respond to situations, even unexpected ones. I was raised to be polite and I like to think I am polite to others, regardless of what is happening.

What I THINK about things may vary (or how I feel), but it's unlikely I will have spastic reactions to events as they happen.

If I do something out of the ordinary, it's usually because of a lot of forethought and I'm needing to change the dynamics of a relationship, for example--but I am still polite while being firm and expressing what I see that's needed in the situation.

I am consistent, and I think that's what we're talking about here.

[seeing_eye]

It is my opinion that it is not the soda pop. The spacing is missing. :lol:

I saw the spacing.

[Irestmycase]

I saw the spacing.

What the heck are you talking about?

[martha]

Hi all you good posters.I have not been able to be on much for a while due to my health but I am back today to try and read some.I guess we have nothing new in casey;s case. Yes casey had it made she was living at home being taken good care of got anything she wanted plus she was not having to raise her child. The had it make now I just wonder what she found so bad about her life? It looked to me like it was a great life. When you start by the time you can go to the fields and pick cotton taken care of your self and do that for the rest of your life and have to stop school and go to work. Never getting a chance to finish school and no one taken care of you or even caring if you have enought to eat or cloths to wear. Then she could have been having a bad life. Even tho that kind of life really makes you grow up early. You may not have a good education but you do have a lot of command sense. You learn a lot the hard way.Casey was so spoiled until she thouht she should get her way all the time and if she wanted something she was going to get it even if mom and dad did not buy it she would steal from them or anyone elce she wanted to to get it.I sure would have her head has she stole from my mom or dad.jmho:wub:

[AnnieKins]

Well just between me and you. BM is a the name of a local night club. Thats ok everyone is entitled to there own opinion. :rolleyes: I was wondering if the Legals on this board have weighed in on the motions.

Aha... that's the problem. The LEGALs. Shoulda guessed it. :rolleyes:

[Januarybaby]

Anniekins I sent you a PM

[minimarshm]

What exactly is a "fake deposit slip" ? Something that shows a transaction was actually made into the account? A deposit slip that got stamped or marked somehow? What about it made Cindy believe it was real?


I don't think Cindy ever looked too deeply below the surface of Casey's stories.

[desmom]

I think that when cynthia tossed george out of the house, she may have told casey that she would always take care of her and Caylee, in an effort to keep her home.

I agree. I think George agrees also: page 116, line 15 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

...I know when Cindy and I separated, the one thing she said was: If you want to leave, that's fine. But Casey and Caylee are always going to stay here.

You know, if I wanted to get up and just go, you know, that was my decision. But, you know, she just knew that where Casey was at and where Caylee was at was their refuge, their home. Even though it was still my home, but she just says: --

--they'll just stay here with me. She says: Three women can function together, you know, without having a man around; which they proved that. They can function pretty well without me, so --

jmo

[Januarybaby]

Hi all you good posters.I have not been able to be on much for a while due to my health but I am back today to try and read some.I guess we have nothing new in casey;s case. Yes casey had it made she was living at home being taken good care of got anything she wanted plus she was not having to raise her child. The had it make now I just wonder what she found so bad about her life? It looked to me like it was a great life. When you start by the time you can go to the fields and pick cotton taken care of your self and do that for the rest of your life and have to stop school and go to work. Never getting a chance to finish school and no one taken care of you or even caring if you have enought to eat or cloths to wear. Then she could have been having a bad life. Even tho that kind of life really makes you grow up early. You may not have a good education but you do have a lot of command sense. You learn a lot the hard way.Casey was so spoiled until she thouht she should get her way all the time and if she wanted something she was going to get it even if mom and dad did not buy it she would steal from them or anyone elce she wanted to to get it.I sure would have her head has she stole from my mom or dad.jmho:wub:

Welcome Back Martha, glad youre feeling better.

[Januarybaby]

I don't think Cindy ever looked too deeply below the surface of Casey's stories.

I think youre right. If Cindy did, shed have to face the truth and we all know Cindy didnt and doesnt want to go there.

[minimarshm]

I agree. I think George agrees also: page 116, line 15 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

...I know when Cindy and I separated, the one thing she said was: If you want to leave, that's fine. But Casey and Caylee are always going to stay here.

You know, if I wanted to get up and just go, you know, that was my decision. But, you know, she just knew that where Casey was at and where Caylee was at was their refuge, their home. Even though it was still my home, but she just says: --

--they'll just stay here with me. She says: Three women can function together, you know, without having a man around; which they proved that. They can function pretty well without me, so --

jmo


Cindy chose Casey over George. I don't think it was a new pattern either. When George attempted to come down on Casey Cindy stepped in and stopped him. If I remember correctly she also made fun of him when they were seperated as did Lee and Casey. He was low man on the family totem pole and Casey knew it. Even now George is in last place in the Cindy scale. He can do as she says or hit the road.

Can you imagine the family dynamics as they occured?
Makes me very grateful for the children I have and the way we respect each other.

[kakax]

Not graduating high school is one thing, but not getting your diploma because you're half a credit short? I don't even know how to define something that ridiculous.


I don't know if this is true, but Casey's friends supposedly told Diane Fanning that she was more than a half credit shy and she had stopped attending classes in her senior year.

[Ladygator]

I don't know if this is true, but Casey's friends supposedly told Diane Fanning that she was more than a half credit shy and she had stopped attending classes in her senior year.

Now that makes more sense, IMO.

[kakax]

When our missing child was found in the creek we were on the bridge and when they opened the bag 2 days later, we knew it was her in there from standing up there. And like in Florida we were having 90 degree heat at that time, with alot of humidity. You cant mistake it. CIndy and George being a cop and a nurse knew exactly what the smell was.

I can not imagine what you have been through. Thank you for sharing with us! :wub: God bless your family.

[Januarybaby]

I can not imagine what you have been through. Thank you for sharing with us! :wub: God bless your family.

Its a bit easier but 17 yrs later we still wonder what she would be like, what she would have become, who she would look like, what would be her favorite things, etc. Now Ill be wondering the same things for Caylee.

[denjet]

I don't know if this is true, but Casey's friends supposedly told Diane Fanning that she was more than a half credit shy and she had stopped attending classes in her senior year.
mmmm ... why does that sound so much more believable than the "only a half credit" story ... and the "only found out right before graduation" story ?? :sneaky:

[desmom]

Cindy chose Casey over George. I don't think it was a new pattern either. When George attempted to come down on Casey Cindy stepped in and stopped him. If I remember correctly she also made fun of him when they were seperated as did Lee and Casey. He was low man on the family totem pole and Casey knew it. Even now George is in last place in the Cindy scale. He can do as she says or hit the road.

Can you imagine the family dynamics as they occured?
Makes me very grateful for the children I have and the way we respect each other.

Well George is the thumb: http://m.tampabays10.com/news.jsp?key=150480

"You know I just had an analogy of our family. Think of me as the thumb. Think of dad. The next finger, the index finger, think of your mom. She likes to point, just like Caylee," George Anthony said.

"Yeah, but it's that middle finger," interrupted Casey Anthony while laughing.

"The middle finger, I guess is a problem," joked George Anthony. "I'm looking at size in the family. The next finger after that is going to be Lee, then you, and that little pinky is Caylee.

Then the conversation turned interesting when George continued:

So think of your hand like this is us. This is the family that loves each other, that cares and needs to be together, and we're missing two fingers."

"I'm still here," Casey Anthony said.

Amazing!

jmo

[Deannalynn]

Do you really THINK Casey spent any time at all coming up with a story,fairy tale or other?

I find it interesting that this cunning, evil Casey did not have a LIE thought out, a story, a plan, anything while her daughter was missing for 31 days.

She has been accused of planning the whole thing, to it was a fit of anger and every other scenario possible, but there is ONE thing that just jumps out at you.

Casey knew she was responsible for her daughter and shown to be a loving mother in the past.Casey knew her mother also had the same loving feelings for her daughter as she herself did. Casey has exhibited openly and I believe this, so Casey NOT having thought out a story, a script, a plan, a cover up in 31 days tells me she hadn't a clue of what to do.

It certainly appears that as a child herself that had to answer to her mother "still" never once had she left the NEST, was trying to protect herself and her daughter at the same time and her selfishness led her to place herself first,instead of her daughter out of her own fears of back lash from her mother.

That tells another story all on its own.

Even if accidental, even if on purpose and with every evil bone in the body, Casey KNEW there would come a day when she would have to face reality, she had 31 days to THINK of something, but she did not, not until the last moment when cornered by her brother.


Yes we all know something caused her daughters demise,but the puzzle pieces have YET to be placed.


BBM

I don't believe Casey thought she had to come up with any alibi. I don't think she was planning on the body decomposing in the car, the horrible smell from it and running out of gas.
I think she thought about herself only and be done with her family and the rest of them folks in Florida. IIRC, Casey was planning to skip on out to the West to California with Hawkins. That way she could tell her mother she moved to California with Caylee and never to be seen again. Casey always thought for the moment.
However, I also think she didn't really think that out because Lee would have figured it out knowing Hawkins was there. He surely would have done everything to make contact with Hawkins only to find out Casey arrived without Caylee and lied to him and said Cindy took Caylee away from her. Then there is another scenario. Casey would refused to tell her mother where she relocated with Caylee. There is nothing Cindy could do legally because Casey was the natural mother and guardian and over the age of 18. The authorities would have simply told Cindy there was nothing they would do or could do if her daughter didn't want anything to do with her.
There is that!:glare:

[trich]

Bravo! With age comes experience.

Isn't that the truth.
I will turn 70 on Thanksgiving and I feel like I have finally grown up :wink:...I have experienced a lot and with that has come so much wisdom.

[spydernweb2006]

Snipped for space



I have been in tha same situation with a missing child. We cooperated with police, gave evidence, and did anything else they wanted and it WAS a family member who did it. We never lied, covered up, or did anything Casey or her parents did. She was found in a creek in a trash bag and when the police wanted the bags from the house we certainly gave them. We also recognized he did it and we let him take his lumps, we didnt lie for him or cover up anything.

I too had my son taken by my ex many years ago. Believe me everyone when I say a NORMAL reaction to your beloved child being snatched by someone is more like Somer's Mother's reaction then ANY of the Anthony Family's reactions. Even knowing who has your child you are immed devastated, in unbareable pain and almost non functioning. I had to be medicated until he was returned to me. Believe me I not only prayed for my child's return, I begged and pleaded with God and Mankind. I would have given my life up easily to ensure his safety. IN NO WAY were ANY of the Anthony Family truly concerned for Caylee, in MY opinion. I nor anyone involved ever lied or tried to mislead anyone about the incident. The police, children services and court were MY FRIENDS. Thankfully I got my son back after 3 days and we never heard from my ex again. Now my son is a married Dad of 2, former Marine and one hellva great guy. But believe me as a Mother who loved her child and went thru a kidnapping there is no way any of the Anthony Family reactions to date ring true.


Believe me when I say I have walked a mile in those shoes and what I see isnt normal reactions for that kind of situation.
JMHO

hugs,
Spyder

[crimeq]

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I have been in tha same situation with a missing child. We cooperated with police, gave evidence, and did anything else they wanted and it WAS a family member who did it. We never lied, covered up, or did anything Casey or her parents did. She was found in a creek in a trash bag and when the police wanted the bags from the house we certainly gave them. We also recognized he did it and we let him take his lumps, we didnt lie for him or cover up anything.

((((January)))) :rose: I'm so very sad for your loss.

[spydernweb2006]

Sending HUGE hugs to January...

Believe me its not a club I wish for anyone to join and there certainly is no dancing or drinking.

JMHO

hugs,
Spyder

[Ladygator]

mmmm ... why does that sound so much more believable than the "only a half credit" story ... and the "only found out right before graduation" story ?? :sneaky:

I was just reading a post by Desmom about what was said in the book.

The story is much clearer now!!!

Casey just didn't want to go to school anymore and skipped all the time. She was faking school just like faking going to work, lmao.

She probably wrote down her own cell number as an emergency contact and spoke as if she was her Mother when someone from school called. And she made sure to jack any school mail as it came in. Keeping her parents completely outta the loop as to what was going on.

Her parents probably were surprised when they learned their princess wasn't graduating. And I'm sure they learned the TRUTH as to why. But they couldn't tell the rest of the family ANYTHING about it. They held the Graduation party and then said "Ooops' she still needs a 1/2 credit. The school stinks, it's their fault, etc.

The only thing that doesn't make sense to me is why she didn't loose her drivers license for failure to be in school. {Maybe she did}:wink:

[AnnieKins]

I too had my son taken by my ex many years ago. Believe me everyone when I say a NORMAL reaction to your beloved child being snatched by someone is more like Somer's Mother's reaction then ANY of the Anthony Family's reactions. Even knowing who has your child you are immed devastated, in unbareable pain and almost non functioning. I had to be medicated until he was returned to me. Believe me I not only prayed for my child's return, I begged and pleaded with God and Mankind. I would have given my life up easily to ensure his safety. IN NO WAY were ANY of the Anthony Family truly concerned for Caylee, in MY opinion. I nor anyone involved ever lied or tried to mislead anyone about the incident. The police, children services and court were MY FRIENDS. Thankfully I got my son back after 3 days and we never heard from my ex again. Now my son is a married Dad of 2, former Marine and one hellva great guy. But believe me as a Mother who loved her child and went thru a kidnapping there is no way any of the Anthony Family reactions to date ring true.


Believe me when I say I have walked a mile in those shoes and what I see isnt normal reactions for that kind of situation.
JMHO

hugs,
Spyder

I'm so happy you had a happy ending to your story, Spy. And I agree that how the Anthonys are handling Caylee's death is absolutely not normal.

[martha]

I'm so happy you had a happy ending to your story, Spy. And I agree that how the Anthonys are handling Caylee's death is absolutely not normal. ITa with you how they or handling this is not normal and for casey to wait 31 days to tell any one and I do anyone her baby was missing now I don;t care who you or I don;t think anyone could ever understand that. That stops everyone in their tracks when I first tell them that and they don;t even know anything about this case. They don;t want to hear anymore about it when I tell them the mother did not report her missing for 31 days. someon that don;t keep up with this case that casey will get out of this because no one seen her kill Caylee but did I start to go into all the evidence they do have.just gets me real up set when they have never follow this case.jmho:wub:

[crimeq]

It is my opinion that it is not the soda pop. The spacing is missing. :lol:

Not so sure, MoonRider, LOL -- I did notice a question mark typed after a space, like this ?

and that's the sodapop punctuation.

Also instead of spaces around commas, there were sentences with run on commas

like this,and like this,and so on.

So maybe sodapop is just playing with punctuation in a different way.

[Dtviewer3]

Not so sure, MoonRider, LOL -- I did notice a question mark typed after a space, like this ?

and that's the sodapop punctuation.

Also instead of spaces around commas, there were sentences with run on commas

like this,and like this,and so on.

So maybe sodapop is just playing with punctuation in a different way.

The sodapop and I go back a long time (before this case) and I am sure that yes, that IS the sodapop reincarnated.

[crimeq]

The sodapop and I go back a long time (before this case) and I am sure that yes, that IS the sodapop reincarnated.

:wink: gotcha :wink: thanks.

[AnnieKins]

[QUOTE=kakax;13613051]I don't know if this is true, but Casey's friends supposedly told Diane Fanning that she was more than a half credit shy and she had stopped attending classes in her senior year.[/QUO

Hammering my own head as I type this... hammer... why on earth do I ever believe anything that comes out of their mouths?! I'm sure this version of the truth is more reliable.

[kakax]

Hammering my own head as I type this... hammer... why on earth do I ever believe anything that comes out of their mouths?! I'm sure this version of the truth is more reliable.

Go to the other thread about the book if you want to see my reply to this post. I don't want to spoil it any more than I already have.

[gaelicpeas]

Isn't that the truth.
I will turn 70 on Thanksgiving and I feel like I have finally grown up :wink:...I have experienced a lot and with that has come so much wisdom.Happy birthday to all of our septagenarians!

I have been reading all the posts today, and all I can say is wow.

Meanwhile, still waiting for more docs....

[gaelicpeas]

Go to the other thread about the book if you want to see my reply to this post. I don't want to spoil it any more than I already have.
Oh cripes, I hate multiple threads, lol! Can't you just type your reply really lightly here and those that don't want to read it can skip it? Purty please??

[Kathlb]

Just for sake of the discussion concerning Cindy and George, Lee too I suppose.

*Respectful snip*

More power to those of you who know how well you would react in same scenarios, how much class you would be judged to have. What strikes me is that anyone would mention CLASS in the scope of the situation.

I and some others here KNOW how we would react. However your not understanding why class is appropriate can be fixed if you go and read the backlog of interviews and facts as others have suggested. Listen to Cindy carefully and really pay attention. Watch her entire deposition by Morgan & Morgan, read about the obstruction of justice that she performed and admitted to, and also read about the innocent young people she has attempted to throw under the bus and ruin their lives. And all because they made the mistake of befriending her daughter. Then you will be able to fully discuss class and how it pertains to any discussion of the Anthonys. MOO

Dictionary meaning...

"Class"

excellence; exceptional merit

Informal. elegance, grace, or dignity.

–adjective-

Informal. of high quality, integrity, status, or style.

—Verb phrase

class up, Informal. to improve the quality, tone, or status of; add elegance, dignity, style, etc.

[Katprint]

<respectfully snipped>

Dictionary meaning...

"Class"

excellence; exceptional merit

Informal. elegance, grace, or dignity.

–adjective-

Informal. of high quality, integrity, status, or style.

—Verb phrase

class up, Informal. to improve the quality, tone, or status of; add elegance, dignity, style, etc.
Is there also a picture of the Anthonys next to those definitions, with a red circle-backslash symbol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_symbol superimposed on top? Like maybe a photo of the Anthonys relaxing in lounge chairs on the cruise ship? Or Cindy brandishing her hammer, George scuffling with protesters and Lee dumping out a protester's dog's waterbowl?

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[ResJudicata]

Just for sake of the discussion concerning Cindy and George, Lee too I suppose. I wonder if they were concerned what appearance or what anyone thought in any moment? I doubt it seriously,it would have been the last thing they cared about and it shows, right. WHO in the trenches of despair cares,I know I wouldn't!

I see all over the internet contradictions as to their behavior. Some are shouting they have no class,others saying they put on a front,playing the proper roles.

I mean it gets confusing. Thankfully I have an able bodied mind and can see that in the moments leading up to the 911 calls till this day
( how long has it been now) a long time for sure, that CLASS and then contradictions that follow such as putting on fronts are just angry people, with good reasons,but at the same time these contradictions of the public lashing out ,the demands of the public onto Cindy, George and Lee are atrocious.


What is the proper stance, more importantly who cares, we all have certain anxiety producing differences that dictate how we REACT or ACT or do not act. ( flight or fight response) Do you FLEE as Casey may have ( F LIGHT ) or do you F IGHT ? Like Cindy did. Mothers tend to F IGHT for their off spring, lest we not forget Cindy is the mother, she was not only the mother she was the Grand Mother.

Soul searching is EASY to do when its not your own soul your searching at the moment and in battle with this army searching for answers while in the depths of despair with an Army coming at you full force.

Not an easy task by any stretch. I will not judge these people in their time of despair, just can't go there.

More power to those of you who know how well you would react in same scenarios, how much class you would be judged to have. What strikes me is that anyone would mention CLASS in the scope of the situation.

I agree with everything you say here. However I doubt you will change the mindsets of anyone. Its a losing battle, but I appreciate that you have the fortitude to post it.
:smile:

[djmsmom]

I and some others here KNOW how we would react. However your not understanding why class is appropriate can be fixed if you go and read the backlog of interviews and facts as others have suggested. Listen to Cindy carefully and really pay attention. Watch her entire deposition by Morgan & Morgan, read about the obstruction of justice that she performed and admitted to, and also read about the innocent young people she has attempted to throw under the bus and ruin their lives. And all because they made the mistake of befriending her daughter. Then you will be able to fully discuss class and how it pertains to any discussion of the Anthonys. MOO

Dictionary meaning...

"Class"

excellence; exceptional merit

Informal. elegance, grace, or dignity.

–adjective-

Informal. of high quality, integrity, status, or style.

—Verb phrase

class up, Informal. to improve the quality, tone, or status of; add elegance, dignity, style, etc.

It wouldn't suprise me if what bothered Cindy the most is the fact that people are saying she has no class. Not that she is a liar, or she spoiled and enabled her daughter to the point that she could murder her own daughter and know that Cindy would lie and try to cover it up.

Also BM stated that if Casey did murder Caylee she had 31 days to come up with a better story than the one she did. huh? I'm sure at one time Casey thought she had a great story made up. She watched a show about the nanny did it, a movie about a body in the trunk. Made up a story about the dead squirrels stinking up the car. The lost sim card. IMO she thought that LE would go off on a hunt for the nanny, her family would back her up and that would be the end of it.

[Deannalynn]

Is there also a picture of the Anthonys next to those definitions, with a red circle-backslash symbol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_symbol superimposed on top? Like maybe a photo of the Anthonys relaxing in lounge chairs on the cruise ship? Or Cindy brandishing her hammer, George scuffling with protesters and Lee dumping out a protester's dog's waterbowl?

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

OMG...That water bowl incident really made me angry!.:angry:

[need2no]

OMG...That water bowl incident really made me angry!.:angry:

Me too, but this part of the fiasco was hilarious. Lee might have a bat phone, but he ain't no Superman. :laugh:

http://www.picupine.com/84cff75x

[SC7501]

I'd guess that you haven't had much contact with sociopaths, Blue. They don't plan ahead because they have total confidence in their ability to improvise a great story on the spur of the moment. Most people who have been their victims already don't bother to call them on anything, it isn't worth it and gets nobody anywhere. The sociopath's belief in himself is then reinforced. He doesn't even care whether or not you believe him (which explains why he never puts very much thought into his lies) as long as it's enough to keep you from challenging him on it. And you don't. Nobody does. It's fruitless, and if they didn't know that to start with they learn it pretty fast.

Casey was not cunning. She wasn't smart. She put up little warnings that said "don't challenge me in this area" and nobody did. Those emails were probably as much warnings as they were "proof" that she was working, in that they as much as said, "I know you're checking up on me and I'm three steps ahead of you. So don't bother."

Once you know how a sociopath behaves, Casey's behavior all makes sense.

Well put Puff! -- I was just catching up and was stopped in my tracks by the insight and truth of this entry. :thumbup:

[Anakerie]

Me too, but this part of the fiasco was hilarious. Lee might have a bat phone, but he ain't no Superman. :laugh:

http://www.picupine.com/84cff75x
Lee fought the sign and the sign won.

I agree with you. I actually laughed out loud watching him attempt to destroy that sign. One of the rare laughable moments in this case....

[My Gal Sal]

Is there also a picture of the Anthonys next to those definitions, with a red circle-backslash symbol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_symbol superimposed on top? Like maybe a photo of the Anthonys relaxing in lounge chairs on the cruise ship? Or Cindy brandishing her hammer, George scuffling with protesters and Lee dumping out a protester's dog's waterbowl?

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

Right on Katprint!... Love to see the legal minds weighing in on the 'opinions' of people who have not followed this case as closely as you and many others on this board....Their lack of knowledge on the facts of discovery is astounding...... One might wonder 'Who is this'? and / or 'What are they trying to accomplish'?
If it is someone in the family or part of the defense, then they are not going to find a sympathic crowd. Certainly not from me...

The dear Casey is guilty as sin ..... and anyone else who knows about 31 days knows that too. The forensic evidence doesn't really matter, as far as I am concerned.... However, it will just put more nails in Casey's coffin.

[AnnieKins]

Me too, but this part of the fiasco was hilarious. Lee might have a bat phone, but he ain't no Superman. :laugh:

http://www.picupine.com/84cff75x

You mean the part where ... he fought the sighhhnn, and the - sign won... he fought the sighhhn and the - sign won ? :laugh:

[Ladygator]

Lee fought the sign and the sign won.

I agree with you. I actually laughed out loud watching him attempt to destroy that sign. One of the rare laughable moments in this case....

:lol:

I never seen that before. The poor Anthony men. Lee's sign busting skills aren't up to par, George's water hose has no pressure. And Cindy beats them all with her hammer.

[AnnieKins]

Lee fought the sign and the sign won.

I agree with you. I actually laughed out loud watching him attempt to destroy that sign. One of the rare laughable moments in this case....

LOL Ana... I just posted the same thing!

[AnnieKins]

Aren't message boards where posters talk about diverse subjects and opinions??? Is this message board different? I post what I feel, is there something wrong with that????????? pft.

Nothing wrong with that when you were legal, and nothing wrong now. :w00t:

[Anakerie]

LOL Ana... I just posted the same thing!
lol, yep! But you got the emphasis right! :laugh: