Shannon Dedrick, 7 month old, Chipley, FL - 10/31[FOUND SAFE IN BOX UNDER BED]

[desmom]

7-Month-Old Girl Missing In Panhandle
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/21492413/detail.html

The Washington County Sheriff's Office said Shannon Lea Dedrick disappeared from a home about 11:30 a.m. Saturday.

The child was reported missing by the parents and an active search is under way in the Brown Street area of Chipley. Search and rescue teams from Bay, Gulf, Jackson and Liberty counties are assisting in the search, was well as the Graceville Police Department.

Washington County Sheriff Bobby Haddock told the Panama City News Herald that nothing at this time makes them think the baby was abducted, but she "didn’t crawl or walk away."

[desmom]

FDLE Missing Child Alert - Endangered
http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/mcicsearch/FlyerNewPerson.asp?Case_Id=31216&case_nbr=

Sheriff's Department Issues Search For 7 Month Old Girl
http://www.fosterfollynews.com/news/2009Nov1MissingChild.php

[desmom]

Something is off. I cannot find any comments from LE re how the baby was removed from the house i.e. front door was unlocked, window shimmied.

jmo

[n/t]

Something is off. I cannot find any comments from LE re how the baby was removed from the house i.e. front door was unlocked, window shimmied.

jmo

That was my first thought when I read your OP. How did a 7 month old just disappear from the home? Exactly what the Sheriff said...she didn't crawl or walk away! At 7 months old, I doubt she walked yet. Crawling....wouldn't get very far unless the parents weren't watching and she managed to get outside the door somehow?? :unsure:

Prayers she will found safe but it doesn't sound good. Another Florida child!! What is going on over there?:blink:

[watson]

I enlarged the photo of the baby and her eyes do not look blue - they look brown. I don't know if the info given is a mistake or if it is bad photography - just wanted to bring the eye color discrepancy to everyone's attention. ( I suppose it could be my computer, too!)

[n/t]

I enlarged the photo of the baby and her eyes do not look blue - they look brown. I don't know if the info given is a mistake or if it is bad photography - just wanted to bring the eye color discrepancy to everyone's attention. ( I suppose it could be my computer, too!)

The eyes look brown to me too.

[TBIBeg]

Oh no... hinky!

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I'm having trouble finding any updates about this story! I cannot believe it. Another case of infanticide? most likely. 7 mos old children do not up and walk away. Although mine walked at 10 mos and some do walk very early (it's a nightmare, you have to babyproof really early and be on guard when they walk so young)
When Mine pulled herself up on the coffee table, that was it, no crawling, she took off like a bolt.

This is so disturbing, that they are searching the area around the home, it's swampy and it looks like there is a lot of overgrown bush. What, a nightmare.
I don't even understand the timeline or just the details where is this babY?
Bug

[Destini]

Hate to say it, but if she wasn't abducted & she didn't crawl away, that doesn't leave much else, does it? Poor baby.

http://wokv.com/localnews/2009/11/7-month-old-panhandle-girl-mis.html
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The child was reported missing by the parents and police told the media they don't think the child was abducted.

However, they said there's also no indication she crawled away.

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Thank you Destini and no it sure doesn't leave too many options.
I am trying to think, how; why, another well? But no, unless she was an early walker, toddling about, I think we will hear of arrests soon.
Because there is no news. Something is wrong. And they are searching the swamp and outdoors for her.
No break in reminds me of Madeleines case all over again.
And that makes me so angry.

:(

[Justice4all]

Hate to say it, but if she wasn't abducted & she didn't crawl away, that doesn't leave much else, does it? Poor baby.

http://wokv.com/localnews/2009/11/7-month-old-panhandle-girl-mis.html
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The child was reported missing by the parents and police told the media they don't think the child was abducted.

However, they said there's also no indication she crawled away.

Another baby missing in FL :crying:
I hope Shannon's found soon.

[camracrazy]

http://www.fosterfollynews.com/news/2009Nov1MissingChild.php

This article has an update from an aunt that says Shannon might suffer from a growth development problem, which is why her head looks large. I wondered abou that.

[camracrazy]

http://www.newsherald.com/news/baby-78728-chipley-missing.html

They are searching the woods. Ughh.

[Meolane]

Something I find odd... She's 7 months old and weighs only 11 lbs? A normal 7 month-old weighs about 20 lbs. :confused:

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Anytime a case like this breaks, and you find out there are underlying medical conditions with the child: Maddy, Haleigh, now Shannon there is that element that you cannot dismiss.
That maybe someone didn't want to be burdened by a child that had health issues.
Not that perfect baby they were looking for. It's a common theme in a lot of child killings. I do believe that MM case and MC case fit into this category. As far as I'm concerned they do.
Now so does Shannon.

There is something to be said, about how difficult it really is to care for someone with special needs. Not everyone, can do it.
Bug

[camracrazy]

It could make sense if she does have a medical condition. My middle dd hit 11 lbs, 2ozs at about 6 months and then plummeted down to 9 lbs, 12ozs. It turned out she had CF. She was very tiny for a long time.

[desmom]

Missing Child Update
http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/missing_child_update/mbb7719658/
Shannon was believed to have gone missing between 3:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m.

Person of interest ID'd in missing baby case
http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html
Investigators said Monday they have identified a person of interest in the case of a missing 7-month Washington County baby, although no name was immediately released.

[n/t]

Doesn't sound good. Poor baby. :crying:

[Justice4all]

Missing Child Update
http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/missing_child_update/mbb7719658/
Shannon was believed to have gone missing between 3:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m.

Person of interest ID'd in missing baby case
http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html
Investigators said Monday they have identified a person of interest in the case of a missing 7-month Washington County baby, although no name was immediately released.

Sounds like they are changing their story about her not being abducted. TY for the link.

[Meolane]

The baby went missing between 3:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m.? How could the parents miss the entire morning with their baby? The baby should have been up well before 11:00. This does not look good. :sad:

[Justice4all]

The baby went missing between 3:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m.? How could the parents miss the entire morning with their baby? The baby should have been up well before 11:00. This does not look good. :sad:

Maybe they went to bed at 3am.....
my step daughter and her husband are nigiht owls and so our their twins.

[FrankieBones1]

Something is off. I cannot find any comments from LE re how the baby was removed from the house i.e. front door was unlocked, window shimmied.

jmoDid your hinky meter go off? Police have a POI but haven't release a name. They haven't even released the parents' names as far as this report goes.
http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html

[FrankieBones1]

The baby went missing between 3:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m.? How could the parents miss the entire morning with their baby? The baby should have been up well before 11:00. This does not look good. :sad:

I've never known a baby to go that late in the morning without a bottle. What was mom doing between 7am and 11am?

[Breazy]

Did your hinky meter go off? Police have a POI but haven't release a name. They haven't even released the parents' names as far as this report goes.
http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html


According to a comment at this link, DCF has been called before. I just pray to God above that the mother is not involved nor covering for her boyfriend. We've seen it happen so many times. Also, wondering if there are other children in the home? Please, just let this baby be alright!!

[Breazy]

Did your hinky meter go off? Police have a POI but haven't release a name. They haven't even released the parents' names as far as this report goes.
http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html


Have seen in comments that both parents are mentally retarded. Could be why they aren't releasing their identity. Of course, I don't know this as fact.

[FrankieBones1]

According to a comment at this link, DCF has been called before. I just pray to God above that the mother is not involved nor covering for her boyfriend. We've seen it happen so many times. Also, wondering if there are other children in the home? Please, just let this baby be alright!!

Thanks, I thought the person in the comment section was just guessing that that DCF had been there. Sounded like she was just putting out a theory.

[FrankieBones1]

Have seen in comments that both parents are mentally retarded. Could be why they aren't releasing their identity. Of course, I don't know this as fact.

I think those comments were deleted. They aren't there right now.

[Chica]

The baby went missing between 3:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m.? How could the parents miss the entire morning with their baby? The baby should have been up well before 11:00. This does not look good. :sad:

I was thinking the same thing unless 11am is when the parents woke up.

[Chica]

I think those comments were deleted. They aren't there right now.

They're there now. Many comments about DCF>

[desmom]

Search continues for missing child
http://www2.jcfloridan.com/jcf/news/local/article/search_continues_for_missing_child/105572/

The search is focused in the area of 793C Brown St., the girl’s home.

[FrankieBones1]

They're there now. Many comments about DCF>

Not those. I'm talking about the ones saying that the parents are mentally ill.

[Dogmatic]

Red flags everywhere

7 mth old weighing 11 lbs
went missing between 3 a.m. and 11 a.m. (odd time)
no word on forced entry etc



Prayers for Baby Shannon

[moonlite]

http://www.fosterfollynews.com/news/2009Nov1MissingChild.php

This article has an update from an aunt that says Shannon might suffer from a growth development problem, which is why her head looks large. I wondered abou that.

Greetings'
Camracrazy"

Thanks for the link. This is sad!! IMO' it doesn't sound too good for the baby. The article states the mom' lived with the grandpa' then moved with the boyfriend? Is this boyfriend Shannon's father?

Moonlite

[doctor_J]

Something I find odd... She's 7 months old and weighs only 11 lbs? A normal 7 month-old weighs about 20 lbs. :confused:

This was my first thought when the Aunt brougnt up the "big head" comment. A baby's head looks big when the body is starved.

[moonlite]

http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html

UPDATED: Person of interest ID'd in missing baby case

[doctor_J]

Why would they give an 8 hour window for the baby to go missing, from 3 till 11 am. I could see them not being aware of a 3 am missing baby but noone checked on the baby untill 11?? Who goes most of the morning without checking on a baby?

[Breazy]

I think those comments were deleted. They aren't there right now.

Those comments are at this link:

http://www.fosterfollynews.com/news/2009Nov1MissingChild.php

[Breazy]

Thanks, I thought the person in the comment section was just guessing that that DCF had been there. Sounded like she was just putting out a theory.

See post by "searching1" at this link:

http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html

This post also states that the parents mental capacity was not diminished enough to be considered "mentally retarded" and that DCF was suppose to be watching closely...

[Dogmatic]

See post by "searching1" at this link:

http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html

This post also states that the parents mental capacity was not diminished enough to be considered "mentally retarded" and that DCF was suppose to be watching closely...

This nations children seem to have no civil rights. How sad for this helpless little child

[Chica]

Not those. I'm talking about the ones saying that the parents are mentally ill.

Thanks, Franki

[desmom]

http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/person_of_interest_in_baby_disappearance/mbb7719664/
For the first time we also now know that the last time Shannon was seen she was in her parents’ bedroom when they went to sleep Saturday. The Washington County Sheriff’s Office says she went missing some time between 3:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. Her parents reported her missing around 11:30 a.m

[Justice4all]

http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html

UPDATED: Person of interest ID'd in missing baby case

Why in the world won't they release then name of the POI? :confused:

[VC2]

This was my first thought when the Aunt brougnt up the "big head" comment. A baby's head looks big when the body is starved.

I think there was a medical issue beyond hunger, there is something different about her head in the pic i saw on HLN. In no way does it remind me of a Down's baby but there are other medical conditions that change head shapes and features as well. Very large skull, very tiny face, very very triangulated.

As far as parents or mom being developmentally/mentally challenged, there are kids who have a terrific upbringing with parents who are slower than most, so long as they have really good support (the parents). I do wish that it was rarer though bc sadly the others don't. Then again there are many extremely intelligent parents who make lousy moms and dads, who sexually abuse, physically abuse and otherwise neglect or hurt their children so i don't think intelligence level really matters. Within reason of course.

IMO

[Justice4all]

Sure wish Tim Miller and TES would help find Shannon...........

[n/t]

Why in the world won't they release then name of the POI? :confused:

I wonder if it's because she/he is a minor.

[Riverwalk!]

http://www.fosterfollynews.com/news/2009Nov1MissingChild.php

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Wow, I have been reading what I could find online about this family.
The fact that some think she left her out in the woods, covered her with leaves, just HORRIBLE!!
And I get so very angry, reading they are mentally challenged. Because then my next thought is, have they seen all the tv coverage of other cases, CaseyA, The Cummings case, and did she also think in her mind that she too; could make her child go away?

This, actually makes sense and is why I feel exceptionally angry tonight.
BUG

[HouseOfClark]

http://www.fosterfollynews.com/news/2009Nov1MissingChild.php

From the photo of Shannon in the carseat, she looks to weigh more than 11 pounds. I hope that was just a mis-speak.

(I don't usually get a good feeling when I see the combination of child, mother, and mother's live in boyfriend - even if the live in boyfriend is the child's father. But that's just me. :sad: )

[desmom]

http://www.fosterfollynews.com/news/2009Nov1MissingChild.php

Thanks for the link. Look how dense the brush is in the picture of the lane leading to their home. A very difficult situation to search.

jmo

[FrankieBones1]

See post by "searching1" at this link:

http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html

This post also states that the parents mental capacity was not diminished enough to be considered "mentally retarded" and that DCF was suppose to be watching closely...

I'm surprised that relatives are posting their comments there.

[VC2]

From the photo of Shannon in the carseat, she looks to weigh more than 11 pounds. I hope that was just a mis-speak.

(I don't usually get a good feeling when I see the combination of child, mother, and mother's live in boyfriend - even if the live in boyfriend is the child's father. But that's just me. :sad: )

sighs..i don't have a good feeling after reading the comments, if any are true about the mom confessing...wish LE would say something and glad Team Adam has flown in to search

[Lynn Gweeny]

sighs..i don't have a good feeling after reading the comments, if any are true about the mom confessing...wish LE would say something and glad Team Adam has flown in to search

Rumors that the mother of the missing child has confessed to burying the body and that digging is underway at the old Chipley dump are untrue, according to the Washington County Sheriff's Office.

http://www.chipleypaper.com/news/baby-4619-chipley-continues.html

[FrankieBones1]

Why would they give an 8 hour window for the baby to go missing, from 3 till 11 am. I could see them not being aware of a 3 am missing baby but noone checked on the baby untill 11?? Who goes most of the morning without checking on a baby?

And why wait twenty minutes before calling 911?

[LESSAV]

I'm having trouble finding any updates about this story! I cannot believe it. Another case of infanticide? most likely. 7 mos old children do not up and walk away. Although mine walked at 10 mos and some do walk very early (it's a nightmare, you have to babyproof really early and be on guard when they walk so young)
When Mine pulled herself up on the coffee table, that was it, no crawling, she took off like a bolt.

This is so disturbing, that they are searching the area around the home, it's swampy and it looks like there is a lot of overgrown bush. What, a nightmare.
I don't even understand the timeline or just the details where is this babY?
Bug

I just read about this on our local station's website. It says she went missing between 3am and 11am. How in the world can someone not check on their baby for 8 hours?

[Heidi J.]

This is not looking good:crying:

[Justice4all]

I just read about this on our local station's website. It says she went missing between 3am and 11am. How in the world can someone not check on their baby for 8 hours?

ITA...

My son from the day he was born would sleep 6-8 hours but that didn't matter to me i would still get up and go check on him every couple hours.

[Serena]

Poor baby! This doesn't sound good at all. I hope they find her safe.

[Riverwalk!]

Watch the video

http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/68393937.html

[desmom]

Neighbors React To Child’s Disappearance
http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/neighbors_react_to_childs_disappearance/mbb7719670/

Wilt says that “she come and knocked on our door at around 11 or 11:15 in the morning and she said ‘did y’all hear anybody pull up in our driveway?’ and I said ‘no, why’ and she said ‘cause my baby’s gone’ and I’m like ‘what do you mean your baby’s gone?’!”

Neighbors then helped Shannon’s mother search their mobile home. And after the search they called to report seven-month-old Shannon missing.

[SnowWhite]

Two photos provided and neither of them show a happy smiling baby. Think about it, go look at your own kid's baby photos at 6-7 months they are all smiles especially when we decide to go grab a camera.

I think this case will be one where the 'streets' will talk. Investigators are going to nail this one soon simply because mom and pop aren't smart enough to dream up an elaborate tale to cover their tracks.

God bless the children in this world a whole lot of them just never even get a chance.

[SnowWhite]

what?

http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/person_of_interest_in_baby_disappearance/19664/


"The Washington County Sheriff’s Office says she went missing some time between 3:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. "



You show me any child under the age of about 13 that lets their parents sleep in??? until after 11am??? They didn't know this baby was missing until after 11 am?? Where was social services here? Obviously this is routine here for this bunch.

No breakfast? No morning bath? no morning diaper change?


This baby VERY LIKELY was taken by someone who was SICK AND TIRED of seeing that baby living in filth and being unattended. Let's all hope this is the case.

I know of some kids over the years that I myself have been tempted to snatch because their parents were just such wastes.

[SnowWhite]

ITA...

My son from the day he was born would sleep 6-8 hours but that didn't matter to me i would still get up and go check on him every couple hours.


Well, that's because you HAVE A BRAIN. This just gets sickening reading this every day. It's just no wonder to me at all, no freaking wonder that our prisons are filled and there is such a drug and alcohol problem. For this little girl to have to grow up in this kind of environment.:cursing:

[birdwatch]

what?

http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/person_of_interest_in_baby_disappearance/19664/


"The Washington County Sheriff’s Office says she went missing some time between 3:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. "



You show me any child under the age of about 13 that lets their parents sleep in??? until after 11am??? They didn't know this baby was missing until after 11 am?? Where was social services here? Obviously this is routine here for this bunch.

No breakfast? No morning bath? no morning diaper change?


This baby VERY LIKELY was taken by someone who was SICK AND TIRED of seeing that baby living in filth and being unattended. Let's all hope this is the case.

I know of some kids over the years that I myself have been tempted to snatch because their parents were just such wastes. I have stolen abused dogs - I can imagine that someone might want to do that for a child - I just hope so. According to family and neighbor comments in the links this bi-polar druggie mom did not want this child - and others said the boyfriend is not the dad.

[moonlite]

Why in the world won't they release then name of the POI? :confused:

Greetings"
Justice4all'

Maybe the police are not releasing the POI's name because they are still looking for Shannon? Maybe more than one person is involved?

Moonlite

[Mo.Gramma]

Prime news 10/2/09 video....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiAZFMP1rGU

[Justice4all]

Greetings"
Justice4all'

Maybe the police are not releasing the POI's name because they are still looking for Shannon? Maybe more than one person is involved?

Moonlite

Hello Moonlite....that's very possible. I just wish we knew more details. Heck i'm shocked her parents haven't come out begging for her to be returned.

[Justice4all]

Well, that's because you HAVE A BRAIN. This just gets sickening reading this every day. It's just no wonder to me at all, no freaking wonder that our prisons are filled and there is such a drug and alcohol problem. For this little girl to have to grow up in this kind of environment.:cursing:

BBM...well thank you very much.

Yeah i just have a bad bad feeling that the parents are involved.


MOO

[VC2]

Well, that's because you HAVE A BRAIN. This just gets sickening reading this every day. It's just no wonder to me at all, no freaking wonder that our prisons are filled and there is such a drug and alcohol problem. For this little girl to have to grow up in this kind of environment.:cursing:

it is why i feel it is so important to understand the background of people who commit horrific crimes. Many times it is not to hard to see why they get so twisted. Not always but often.

It is easy to say "i was abused and never xxxx to someone" but not everyone responds to pain and abuse the same way. It also depends on age, how chronic it is, how much neglect/verbal/sexual/physical at each year occurs, what basic personality they have..are they strong enough to overcome on their own or do they break under it? Are there any other support systems in their lives at all, etc.

I think the answer to the question we ask in all these cases of "why?" and the only way to effectively stop it is to prevent it before children grow into people who can rape, murder, kill babies, take drugs and drink to an extent they lose their lives or take others.

Sentences don't matter much, no one thinks they will be caught, that is for ppl like us. We think that way not them. It sure doesn't apply in the case of juveniles, they all think they are invincible and have the normal mixed up emotions to top any twisted ones. Adults? they learn to leave no witnesses in many cases.

We have to prevent it, not through intervention after the fact but intervention when they are at risk of becoming monsters. If you locked up every man and woman whose idea of parenting is to beat or neglect their children, let alone sexually abuse them, you would find far less crime when those children go up given that you put them in a stable enviroment. There also wouldn't be enough prisons sadly enough

IMO

IMO

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well very sad. I spent some time in the real time chat, that one poster was a "family member" and claimed that Rusty and her both awakened earlier in the morning and knew she wasn't there and went back to bed.
One can never tell for sure, who is posting but yes agree with above posters, claims of drug abuse, possible PPD (post partum) isolation, had no family no friends in the area, no car, no transportation.
No trick or treat in the town, no door to door, stadium situation only. Also a claim of this walk at 5pm Friday evening which was unusual for her.
Rainy, colder out....yet she takes the baby out for a "walk".

If you ask me; that was when she disposed of her, went back to the home and then slept from 3am to 11am. Most moms know, this is impossible with a 7 mos old child. I think she disposed of her Friday night, the timeline is very iffy though. Fam member also claimed that Rusty kicked her out, didn't allow her back in home, she spent first night with LE then at a hotel the next evening.

No net activity no game addiction, no income, 600.00 mo SSI. That's it.
And Wic for the baby. But, also claims of abuse, refusing to feed child, and claims of neighbors hearing slapping and hitting and screaming from the apt. This is from an online acct, family member in a real time chat.
This does not sound good at all; running out of time. Rusty claimed that she wouldn't care for the child. Tx family tried to get custody but failed. No legal basis; claims of "nothing they could do".....DCFS failed to remove child from the home.
The claim was one 8oz bottle daily was all she was allowed. If true that in itself is abuse on a scale of horror I don't want to think about.
Her photos, her eyes, have that look of hunger. Past hungry; starvation is more like it. Her mothers mood, Tina, is described as "not violent but depressive" and possible yes to PPD. 26 or 28 yrs old. Not a minor. Stubborn and accord to fam member, refused help from family and was going to do this on her own. Bio father not in the picture.

Bug
:rose:

[aproudmom]

omg what a sweet little girl I can not beleive we are talking about another missing child:sad:

[aproudmom]

Poor baby! This doesn't sound good at all. I hope they find her safe.

ITA it does not sound good at all IMO

[moonlite]

Neighbors React To Child’s Disappearance
http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/neighbors_react_to_childs_disappearance/mbb7719670/

Wilt says that “she come and knocked on our door at around 11 or 11:15 in the morning and she said ‘did y’all hear anybody pull up in our driveway?’ and I said ‘no, why’ and she said ‘cause my baby’s gone’ and I’m like ‘what do you mean your baby’s gone?’!”

Neighbors then helped Shannon’s mother search their mobile home. And after the search they called to report seven-month-old Shannon missing.

Greetings"
Desmon"

This article states that a van was seen in the drive way? I'm beginning to wonder if the child has been abducted?

Moonlite

[4Kids]

Greetings"
Desmon"

This article states that a van was seen in the drive way? I'm beginning to wonder if the child has been abducted?

Moonlite

Any updates on this little baby? imo

[Justice4all]

Any updates on this little baby? imo

nothing i can find.....

[moonlite]

Greetings'

Does anyone know who Shannon's bio-father is? Has the bio-father been cleared and I missed that?

Moonlite

[wasapi]

[QUOTE=VC2;13608258

We have to prevent it, not through intervention after the fact but intervention when they are at risk of becoming monsters. If you locked up every man and woman whose idea of parenting is to beat or neglect their children, let alone sexually abuse them, you would find far less crime when those children go up given that you put them in a stable enviroment. There also wouldn't be enough prisons sadly enough

IMO

IMO[/QUOTE]

So well said.

[aproudmom]

Greetings"
Desmon"

This article states that a van was seen in the drive way? I'm beginning to wonder if the child has been abducted?

Moonlite

Hi Moon thanks I had not heard this and just now getting ready to watch NG so I am just now learning of this missing baby. appreciate the link

[aproudmom]

Neighbors React To Child’s Disappearance
http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/neighbors_react_to_childs_disappearance/mbb7719670/

Wilt says that “she come and knocked on our door at around 11 or 11:15 in the morning and she said ‘did y’all hear anybody pull up in our driveway?’ and I said ‘no, why’ and she said ‘cause my baby’s gone’ and I’m like ‘what do you mean your baby’s gone?’!”

Neighbors then helped Shannon’s mother search their mobile home. And after the search they called to report seven-month-old Shannon missing.

des in this link it also says this:confused: do they think they know who took her or what may have happened. I am lost by this statement but it still seems very strange IMO

At a news conference this afternoon Sheriff Bobby Haddock said he could give the name of possible suspect at this time.

[aproudmom]

Did your hinky meter go off? Police have a POI but haven't release a name. They haven't even released the parents' names as far as this report goes.
http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html

Hate to say it but yes mine has went off Frankie

[VC2]

The one hope i had but i think its getting to late now, is if the mom was mentally challenged and involved, she might have just put the baby under a bush in the woods or something.

A hope because she could have been alive, but to many days have passed

[aproudmom]

boy this is a very wooded area by the google map heck the roads look like dirt from some of the pictures. IMO

[aproudmom]

The one hope i had but i think its getting to late now, is if the mom was mentally challenged and involved, she might have just put the baby under a bush in the woods or something.

A hope because she could have been alive, but to many days have passed

So this baby was in there room and taken with them both asleep reminds me of another case in Flordia. I hate always looking at the parents but gosh darn this is one strange case IMO.

[aproudmom]

http://www2.dothaneagle.com/dea/news/crime_courts/article/authorities_continue_search_for_missing_7-month-old_girl/105570/

Washington County Sheriff Bobby Haddock said investigators have been talking to a “person of suspicion” they believe could resolve the case. Haddock was tightlipped about the details surrounding Shannon Lea’s disappearance, citing an ongoing investigation. He declined to release the parents’ names. He also declined to release the person of suspicion’s name or relation, if any, to the parents

[just42day97]

So this baby was in there room and taken with them both asleep reminds me of another case in Flordia. I hate always looking at the parents but gosh darn this is one strange case IMO.

Same thoughts here..
I can't even begin to think not checking on my child when I got up...I mean 11:00 am? And hadn't checked on the baby I guess since 3 am..hmmm doesn't sound good at all to me....
I just hate that everyday, more and more stories of our children missing/killed...So sad...

[aproudmom]

Well there are several things that could have happened

Kidnapped
Given away
Taken by someone they knew
The Parents did something horrible
A Accident and afraid to tell LE.

any other ideas

Wilt and Blaylock said they saw what they believed to be a grey van near the residence the night Shannon Lea went missing. They said the van has been at the residence numerous times over the past two months

[aproudmom]

Same thoughts here..
I can't even begin to think not checking on my child when I got up...I mean 11:00 am? And hadn't checked on the baby I guess since 3 am..hmmm doesn't sound good at all to me....
I just hate that everyday, more and more stories of our children missing/killed...So sad...

I had 2 kids and sure wish they would have slept in that late I guess it is possible but since that is when they say they noticed she was not in her bed she had to of been gone already. I am like you I hate seeing these stories over and over :crying:

[Santa'sMom]

Same thoughts here..
I can't even begin to think not checking on my child when I got up...I mean 11:00 am? And hadn't checked on the baby I guess since 3 am..hmmm doesn't sound good at all to me....
I just hate that everyday, more and more stories of our children missing/killed...So sad...

I get the feeling that people are trying to say that the parents were bums because they slept in unitl 11am but 3-11 is only 8 hours. It's the same number of hours that sleeping from 11pm-7am would be. Some people are night people. Guess you can tell I'm a night person. I've had to deal with people calling me lazy because I sleep during the day but those same people sure don't mind my being awake if they're in the hospital and need my assistance with something. Maybe the baby was up until 3 and when she went to sleep, everyone else did too. Maybe they were all exhausted. Both of my kids slept through the night by their second night home and neither one was up before 9 am, usually no earlier than 10 am.

On the other hand, again we are hearing that someone stole a child from the very same room where the parents were sleeping. I have a lot of trouble with that idea. I guess time will tell and I have a feeling, could be wrong, that this case won't take long to solve.

[moonlite]

Well there are several things that could have happened

Kidnapped
Given away
Taken by someone they knew
The Parents did something horrible
A Accident and afraid to tell LE.

any other ideas

Wilt and Blaylock said they saw what they believed to be a grey van near the residence the night Shannon Lea went missing. They said the van has been at the residence numerous times over the past two months

Greetings'
Aproudmom"


I hope that it is a case where Shannon was given away or someone just took her. The other options sure wouldn't turn out to good.IMO

Moonlite

[juliekan]

I get the feeling that people are trying to say that the parents were bums because they slept in unitl 11am but 3-11 is only 8 hours. It's the same number of hours that sleeping from 11pm-7am would be. Some people are night people. Guess you can tell I'm a night person. I've had to deal with people calling me lazy because I sleep during the day but those same people sure don't mind my being awake if they're in the hospital and need my assistance with something. Maybe the baby was up until 3 and when she went to sleep, everyone else did too. Maybe they were all exhausted. Both of my kids slept through the night by their second night home and neither one was up before 9 am, usually no earlier than 10 am.

On the other hand, again we are hearing that someone stole a child from the very same room where the parents were sleeping. I have a lot of trouble with that idea. I guess time will tell and I have a feeling, could be wrong, that this case won't take long to solve.

There was another case in the last year where the parents also said they slept till 11am, then OOPS the baby was gone. The parents were found to have killed the child. anyone remember which one I am thinking about...can't remember the name of the child. My first child also slept through the night at about 4 weeks, but it was 8p-5a. I just know I got a bad feeling when I saw this on the news.

[Danette44]

Good Morning everyone

The 6am news this morning is begging the public to help in searching for this baby, they have 3 counties involved looking for her, nothing new this morning. Asking the public also if they recall seeing anyone with a baby in that area at the time she went missing. This is so sad, we know how this will end up....poor baby - why do parents who don't want children to just give them to family. Off to work, praying this baby is safely found......:sad:

[aproudmom]

I just can not get this baby out of my head I am so worried this is not going to turn out happy but I hope I am wrong.

[aproudmom]

I get the feeling that people are trying to say that the parents were bums because they slept in unitl 11am but 3-11 is only 8 hours. It's the same number of hours that sleeping from 11pm-7am would be. Some people are night people. Guess you can tell I'm a night person. I've had to deal with people calling me lazy because I sleep during the day but those same people sure don't mind my being awake if they're in the hospital and need my assistance with something. Maybe the baby was up until 3 and when she went to sleep, everyone else did too. Maybe they were all exhausted. Both of my kids slept through the night by their second night home and neither one was up before 9 am, usually no earlier than 10 am.

On the other hand, again we are hearing that someone stole a child from the very same room where the parents were sleeping. I have a lot of trouble with that idea. I guess time will tell and I have a feeling, could be wrong, that this case won't take long to solve.

I would not call them bums it just seems very off IMO but I guess at that age most kids do sleep through the night but mine were put to bed before 9pm and up by 6 and if I tried to keep them awake at that age till 3am there would be no way but that is not my only concern a baby was taken out of the same room of two adults no signs of breaking in and LE are talking to someone I just hope she is ok this is getting so sad all these little kids we are reading about.:sad:

[desmom]

I just can not get this baby out of my head I am so worried this is not going to turn out happy but I hope I am wrong.

I agree.

Was their doors locked? Any sign of forced entry? Also, this confuses me:

http://www.panhandleparade.com/index.php/mbb/article/neighbors_react_to_childs_disappearance/mbb7719670/
Wilt says that “she come and knocked on our door at around 11 or 11:15 in the morning and she said ‘did y’all hear anybody pull up in our driveway?’ and I said ‘no, why’ and she said ‘cause my baby’s gone’ and I’m like ‘what do you mean your baby’s gone?’!”

Where are the hysterics? Maybe the neighbor didn't mention it to the reporter or the reporter omitted it from the report.

[watson]

Well there are several things that could have happened

Kidnapped
Given away
Taken by someone they knew
The Parents did something horrible
A Accident and afraid to tell LE.

any other ideas

Wilt and Blaylock said they saw what they believed to be a grey van near the residence the night Shannon Lea went missing. They said the van has been at the residence numerous times over the past two months

Do they own a large dog? Are there packs of dogs in the neighborhood?

[BevAnn]

Just had another option pop into my head...

Wonder if they SOLD baby Shannon?

[witchywoman]

Sure wish Tim Miller and TES would help find Shannon...........

me to ..

Hoping they find this precious child soon..

[tootie]

This case reeks. I hate to be suspicious. But we all know this baby didn't crawl away (like the news had to make that point clear). Too bad the news can't make some other things clear, like the POI. She is so precious. Praying nothing bad has happened to Shannon. :rose:

[Breazy]

I have a sick feeling that if not the mom, then the boyfriend is involved.

[Justice4all]

I have a sick feeling that if not the mom, then the boyfriend is involved.

i'm still shocked we don't know the mothers name. and I still can't believe the mother hasn't went to the media begging for air time so she can beg for her baby back..

MOO

[4Kids]

i'm still shocked we don't know the mothers name. and I still can't believe the mother hasn't went to the media begging for air time so she can beg for her baby back..

MOO

Yes, Justice. This is really disconcerting. Perhpas LE knows who did this and where this child is. However a post from earlier this morning indicates they are scouring 3 counties looking for this child. So what gives? IMO

PS. Besides a comments sections of a newspaper, is there any indication that DCF has been involved and that these parents are special needs parents? IMO

[jakee]

i'm still shocked we don't know the mothers name. and I still can't believe the mother hasn't went to the media begging for air time so she can beg for her baby back..

MOO

This article names the parents.

http://fosterfollynews.com/news/2009Nov1MissingChild.php

[Breazy]

Conflicting info....

http://www.panhandleparade.com/index/php/mbb/article/neighbors_react_to_childs_disappearance/mbb7719670
It wasn’t until later that morning that they knew something was wrong when Shannon’s mother… who they say normally keeps to herself… came to their doors. Wilt says that “she come and knocked on our door at around 11 or 11:15 in the morning...


http://www2.dothaneagle.com/dea/news/crime_courts/article/authorities_continue_search_for_missing_7-month-old_girl/105570/ (http://www2.dothaneagle.com/dea/news/crime_courts/article/authorities_continue_search_for_missing_7-month-old_girl/105570/)
For the past two months, Tanya Wilt and Tina Blaylock received periodic visits from a mother and her docile infant daughter who lived next door in this Washington County, Fla., town.... “(The mother) came by a lot to borrow cigarettes or use the microwave to pop popcorn,” Wilt said.

BBM

Wonder which one is true? Kept to her herself or Came by a Lot?

[Breazy]

This article names the parents.

http://fosterfollynews.com/news/2009Nov1MissingChild.php


From Article:
(The photo at the right shows the lane leading back to the residence occupied by Shannon's parents Christina Mercer and Rusty Dedrick.)


What I'm wondering about is that Shannon has Rusty's last name but yet I've seen it posted that he was not her biological father.:shrug:

[jakee]

From Article:



What I'm wondering about is that Shannon has Rusty's last name but yet I've seen it posted that he was not her biological father.:shrug:

I know. Confusing. Maybe he adopted her? Do we know who the bio dad is? Is he involved in baby Shannon's life? I am behind on the details.

[Meolane]

Yes, Justice. This is really disconcerting. Perhpas LE knows who did this and where this child is. However a post from earlier this morning indicates they are scouring 3 counties looking for this child. So what gives? IMO
My best guess is that someone they knew took the baby. Perhaps the owner if the van that was seen at the house the night before. Maybe they had a friend over that night?

Maybe that's why LE is searching a three-county area.

[Breazy]

I know. Confusing. Maybe he adopted her? Do we know who the bio dad is? Is he involved in baby Shannon's life? I am behind on the details.

I'm thinking the mother was already with Rusty when the baby was born so she put his name on the birth certificate but he's not actually the father. I've known someone who did this.

ETA: That is, if he is not the biological father.

[4Kids]

From Article:



What I'm wondering about is that Shannon has Rusty's last name but yet I've seen it posted that he was not her biological father.:shrug:

Yes, Breazy. I am wondering about that as well. It seems that most of the info is coming from message boards from newspapers where people posting are claiming to be family member.

I did note two things in the articles you posted:



November 2, 2009



Heard from Shannon's aunt in Texas this morning and she would like area residents to know that Shannon's mother, Christina, suffers from a growth development problem that may have been passed down to her daughter. The problem includes a somewhat larger than average head, which her aunt says should make it easier to spot Shannon..

This should put that to rest. I actually thought she had encephalitis.

I was heartened to read in that same article that neither person who was with the child have police records. IMO

IMO

[Justice4all]

This article names the parents.

http://fosterfollynews.com/news/2009Nov1MissingChild.php

Oh thank you i had not seen that.
This case is so confusing.......

[Chica]

I was hoping the baby had been found when I got here today, but no. I hope someone stole the child because maybe they were worried for her safety. Or her mom murdered her and hid the body. Have LE searched the home ? Is it a trailer ?

[bhardy1956]

From the photo of Shannon in the carseat, she looks to weigh more than 11 pounds. I hope that was just a mis-speak.

(I don't usually get a good feeling when I see the combination of child, mother, and mother's live in boyfriend - even if the live in boyfriend is the child's father. But that's just me. :sad: )


Maybe, but she sure doesn't look 7 months old. She looks very tiny to be 7 months.

[Breazy]

I was hoping the baby had been found when I got here today, but no. I hope someone stole the child because maybe they were worried for her safety. Or her mom murdered her and hid the body. Have LE searched the home ? Is it a trailer ?

The photos I've seen on the links posted have been of a trailer.

[moonlite]

Greetings"

I hope and pray that baby Shannon is found safe.

Moonlite

[ViennaGal]

Oh my, my Hinky Meter has hit overdrive on this story. The first I heard of it was last night on NG and when I heard they got up at 11 a.m., I knew something was not right. No way, no how can I buy this story.

Please find this precious baby girl. :rose:

[bkwits]

Parents reported the 7 month old girl missing from their home in Chipley, FL. They last saw her at 3AM Sat and said she was gone at 8AM when they got up the next morning. They did not report her missing to police until 11 am Sunday. :confused:


http://news.aol.com/article/baby-shannon-dedrick-reported-missing/748492?icid=main|main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews. aol.com%2Farticle%2Fbaby-shannon-dedrick-reported-missing%2F748492

[kellann62]

I have to agree with you. There is no way a tiny baby like that could have crawled off. I hope they have turned that home upside down just in case she got wedged somewhere. I know that sounds silly but I would be looking under beds, in closets, under clothes, anything.
Praying she will be found safe.:rose:

Kel

[HouseOfClark]

Parents reported the 7 month old girl missing from their home in Chipley, FL. They last saw her at 3AM Sat and said she was gone at 8AM when they got up the next morning. They did not report her missing to police until 11 am Sunday. :confused:


http://news.aol.com/article/baby-shannon-dedrick-reported-missing/748492?icid=main|main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews. aol.com%2Farticle%2Fbaby-shannon-dedrick-reported-missing%2F748492

There's already a thread on this.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=360168

It's a disturbing case, that's for sure.

:seeya:

[bkwits]

Thanks. I hadn't seen it. Should I ask CW to delete it?

[Elyssa]

I was hoping baby Shannon would be found by the time I got home from work today. :sad:
Something smells to high heavens about this babies disappearance. Baby goes missing, parents at home, in Fla no less.................:blink: This just doesn't pass the smell test.

[bkwits]

I hate to suspect parents right at first, but they didn't report her missing until 11AM when they saw she was gone at 8 AM? Where did they think she could be? I would be immediately calling police. IMO:scared:

[Merry]

http://www.newsherald.com/news/person-78739-baby-case.html

UPDATED: Person of interest ID'd in missing baby case

I didn't see anyone ID'd at this link. All of the stories I've read have said the person of interest remains unnamed.

Do you have another link?

Thanks :)

[Merry]

I first looked into this last night after I saw the story on Nancy Grace.

The articles last night stated that the baby was believed to have gone missing between 6 a.m. and 8 a.m. Then the parents state they noticed Shannon gone at 11 a.m., and went to the neighbor's house, then the neighbors came back and helped search before calling the police at 11:30 a.m.

There was also mention of a van (?) that belonged to a friend/acquaintance of the parents that last night in the neighborhood, and then at some point had been parked in the family's driveway.

I have been scouring for these articles today, and cannot find them. I don't see them listed here in this thread. If they're here and I missed them, could someone please direct me to them? I'd like to read them again.

Would they have been removed already from their respective sites? I'll continue looking tonight when I have time, and post them if I find them.

Thanks in advance :)

[Elyssa]

We're suppose to believe that both parents slept in the room with the baby and slept through the baby being taken?? No wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy..... bs:thumbdown::mad:
A mother's instincts kick in big time when she has a baby. My children slept in their own cribs in their own rooms. I used baby moniters, I could hear my babies turning over in the crib, I could hear them coo.

Fla is quickly becoming the state I'm glad I didn't raise children in. Jessica Lunsford, Somer Thompson and now baby Shannon.

[Dogmatic]

We're suppose to believe that both parents slept in the room with the baby and slept through the baby being taken?? No wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy..... bs:thumbdown::mad:
A mother's instincts kick in big time when she has a baby. My children slept in their own cribs in their own rooms. I used baby moniters, I could hear my babies turning over in the crib, I could hear them coo.

Fla is quickly becoming the state I'm glad I didn't raise children in. Jessica Lunsford, Somer Thompson and now baby Shannon.

Caylee Anthony, Carlie Brucia............. Please let baby Shannon be found!

[tootie]

Count me as another one that was hoping to come home from work and this little baby have been found. It's so stressful that they haven't really given an abundance of information. If they want the help of the public then we should know who the POI is at the very least. Then the people that know the POI or the town they live in can at least start thinking back on any suspicious out of character behavior. Instead they want to keep everything a secret and then a week later start dribbling out information and expect someone to remember back. I know I may sound crazy but that is how I feel. We need as much information as possible now, not later.

[Chica]

I hate to suspect parents right at first, but they didn't report her missing until 11AM when they saw she was gone at 8 AM? Where did they think she could be? I would be immediately calling police. IMO:scared:

Where did you see that they noticed the baby missing at 8am? I have not seen that anywhere. It sounded like they all went to bed at 3am and woke up at 11am to find the baby missing..../i have seen no mention of 8am anywhere??

[Riverwalk!]

http://www.newsherald.com/news/chipley-78769-continues-rumors.html

CHIPLEY — On the third day of searching for a baby feared hidden in the woods or trash cans around her family’s tiny trailer park, the few people who knew 7-month-old Shannon Dedrick weren’t saying much.

Neither were the people looking for her.

“I know there’s a lot of rumors out there that aren't true,” said Washington County sheriff’s spokeswoman Andrea Gainey. “People are talking and spreading them as the gospel, and they are not.”

more at link

[tootie]

Someone needs to start spilling some information in this investigation.

For baby shannon may she be found safe...... :rose:

[Mari512002]

This is my home town.

The area where the trailor is located is in a poor section just outside the town limits. The old dump site is nearby.

Many people here do not lock their doors at night due the false feeling of safety. (we lock our doors)

I know Bobby Haddock personally and I think he knows what has happened to this poor baby but is keeping tight-lipped til she is found.

[desmom]

http://www.newsherald.com/news/chipley-78769-continues-rumors.html

CHIPLEY — On the third day of searching for a baby feared hidden in the woods or trash cans around her family’s tiny trailer park, the few people who knew 7-month-old Shannon Dedrick weren’t saying much.

Neither were the people looking for her.

“I know there’s a lot of rumors out there that aren't true,” said Washington County sheriff’s spokeswoman Andrea Gainey. “People are talking and spreading them as the gospel, and they are not.”

more at link

Thanks!

Per your link, the gray van belongs to the babysitter.
jmo

[Donnah]

Fla is quickly becoming the state I'm glad I didn't raise children in. Jessica Lunsford, Somer Thompson and now baby Shannon.

Chesapeake Bay? Plenty of missing or murdered kids in Maryland and Virginia.

[Elyssa]

Caylee Anthony, Carlie Brucia............. Please let baby Shannon be found!

Thank you Dogmatic, I didn't mean to omit those children. :sad:

[Elyssa]

Chesapeake Bay? Plenty of missing or murdered kids in Maryland and Virginia.

Guarantee you there are more missing and murdered children in Fla. than in Maryland and Va.
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http://www.ocala.com/article/20091103/APN/911031675
3rd day searching for Shannon

[Destini]

http://www.wjhg.com/news/headlines/69002287.html

NewsChannel 7 Confirms The Names of Missing Chipley Baby's Parents

There are a few new details tonight in the case of a 7-month old baby, missing from her Chipley home.
NewsChannel 7 has confirmed the names of Shannon Dedrick's parents, Christina Mercer and Rusty Dedrick.
Shannon disappeared from the home sometime Saturday morning.

[bkwits]

Where did you see that they noticed the baby missing at 8am? I have not seen that anywhere. It sounded like they all went to bed at 3am and woke up at 11am to find the baby missing..../i have seen no mention of 8am anywhere??

http://news.aol.com/article/baby-shannon-dedrick-reported-missing/748492?icid=main|main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews. aol.com%2Farticle%2Fbaby-shannon-dedrick-reported-missing%2F748492

In this link, it says that they believe she was taken or missing since before 8AM. I read another link that says between 6 and 8AM.

[Casspian]

Those comments are at this link:

http://www.fosterfollynews.com/news/2009Nov1MissingChild.php

According to Haddock, the child was in the bedroom with her parents at the time of her disappearance which is projected to have taken place between 3:00 a.m. and 11:00 a.m. on Saturday, March 31st.:confused:

[Casspian]

http://news.aol.com/article/baby-shannon-dedrick-reported-missing/748492?icid=main|main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews. aol.com%2Farticle%2Fbaby-shannon-dedrick-reported-missing%2F748492

In this link, it says that they believe she was taken or missing since before 8AM. I read another link that says between 6 and 8AM.

I read somewhere (can't find it now) that the parents found her missing at 8 am, but didn't call police until 11 am (although another article said they called at 10 am).

Evidently, I'm not the only one who read this - did anyone here already mention it?


mother said she put the child in the woods & covered her with lots of leaves.

[Destini]

From same link I posted above .....

"We spoke with Shannon's great aunt, Lynda Padgett, who says they have also been left in the dark about what's happening.
"The clock is ticking away and she's just an innocent little child who you know, just deserves better."
Padgett says both parents suffer from mental issues.
She also says she's not sure if Christina would hurt Shannon.
"I think if Tina did something then she was definitely not in her right mind when she did it. I really can't say that I think or don't think that she's capable of it."

[Elyssa]

From same link I posted above .....

"We spoke with Shannon's great aunt, Lynda Padgett, who says they have also been left in the dark about what's happening.
"The clock is ticking away and she's just an innocent little child who you know, just deserves better."
Padgett says both parents suffer from mental issues.
She also says she's not sure if Christina would hurt Shannon.
"I think if Tina did something then she was definitely not in her right mind when she did it. I really can't say that I think or don't think that she's capable of it."

The parents have mental issues yet were allowed to keep custody of their child and care for her alone????

That worked out well. :cursing:

[boo]

A snippet from an article I found.

We spoke with Shannon's great aunt, Lynda Padgett, who says they have also been left in the dark about what's happening.
"The clock is ticking away and she's just an innocent little child who you know, just deserves better."
She also says she's not sure if Christina would hurt Shannon.
"I think if Tina did something then she was definitely not in her right mind when she did it. I really can't say that I think or don't think that she's capable of it."
But some people believe it is possible.
"Not the father, I wouldn't think the father, no, not at all."
"He's too heartbroken and distraught."
"I wouldn't know what to say about the mom but not the father."

http://www.wjhg.com/news/headlines/69002287.html

[PuffDragon]

This case has brought me out of Lurkinland where I've been for months and months. I watched Nancy on this tonight and saw more pictures than were out yesterday. Which gave me pause...... I think that baby doesn't look right. In all the pictures she is just lying kind of loose and unanimated: no smile, blank eyes, not interacting with the camera or cameraperson. Perhaps she has developmental issues, either physical or mental or both........ not just a "big head" health problem, I don't think the baby's head is particularly big for a someone that age, but I do think the baby's body is quite small and underdeveloped for that age, which would make the head look overlarge.

Having a baby with issues they don't understand could easily contribute to parents not being able to treat her appropriately.

Yes, my hinky meter is ringing my ears off.

[Merry]

http://news.aol.com/article/baby-shannon-dedrick-reported-missing/748492?icid=main|main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews. aol.com%2Farticle%2Fbaby-shannon-dedrick-reported-missing%2F748492

In this link, it says that they believe she was taken or missing since before 8AM. I read another link that says between 6 and 8AM.


Thank you! This is the information I'd read, as well - missing between 6 and 8.

I haven't found where they came to that idea, as I continue to read that the parents state they got up at 11 (or so).

I agree with Tootie above saying the public needs as much concrete info as soon as it's possible, so the public knows what to look for in finding not only Shannon, but the other missing children that continue to go missing in Florida.

I'm curious how someone managed to get the baby out of the room when they were supposedly all sleeping in the same room. (It borders on the Misty Cummings story.)

[Elyssa]

This case has brought me out of Lurkinland where I've been for months and months. I watched Nancy on this tonight and saw more pictures than were out yesterday. Which gave me pause...... I think that baby doesn't look right. In all the pictures she is just lying kind of loose and unanimated: no smile, blank eyes, not interacting with the camera or cameraperson. Perhaps she has developmental issues, either physical or mental or both........ not just a "big head" health problem, I don't think the baby's head is particularly big for a someone that age, but I do think the baby's body is quite small and underdeveloped for that age, which would make the head look overlarge.

Having a baby with issues they don't understand could easily contribute to parents not being able to treat her appropriately.

Yes, my hinky meter is ringing my ears off.

PuffDragon,
I think you're right. When I saw Shannon's picture last night I immediately thought she was adorable! At the same time I noticed the shape and size of her head. 11 pounds is awfully low weight for a 6-7 month old baby.

[forensicfan]

They are still not saying she was kidnapped so that alone makes me think they are focusing on one or both of the parents. Since she neither walked or crawled away, she left the home somehow. If she wasn't kidnapped then what other conclusion could there be?

I don't know how true the story is that the mother confessed to anything. No confirmation on that as of yet as far as I know.

IF (and this is a big IF) the baby was possibly taken by someone else, there are a few things that have me wondering here:

One, the mother asked the neighbor if she'd heard anyone pull up in the driveway. Had the neighbor's answer been yes, who did the mother THINK might have pulled into the driveway? Did she have a particular person in mind? If so, that person could be the "POI" IF the current "POI" isn't the mother (or father) themselves.

It has been said that DCFS had been called to the home before. Is it possible that the person who called DCFS may also be the person of interest here? Maybe thought the baby was in danger and took her without thinking of the consequences the act might bring in terms of kidnapping charges? Said person might be afraid to come forward.

Still, the baby having been asleep in their bed makes me think that one or both would have woken up if someone, even if it were someone they knew, came into the room and took her. The lapse in time also is suspicious.

I really do hope this baby is still alive but I am afraid it looks as if she is not.

[fastpitch]

11 pounds! I didn't know that, I was 11 pounds when I was born.

No way was that baby getting regular check ups. MOO

Either 11 pounds isn't correct (maybe the parents just don't know or understand) or that baby starved to death. MOO

[forensicfan]

I agree with the issue on the baby's weight. That is much too small for 7 months.

Wasn't there a case where the parents starved their child to death by feeding him only lettuce or something citing a religious belief?

[debbadoo]

She is an adorable little doll. I gasped when I read tht she is 11 pounds...my youngest was 10 3 at birth!!! I pray that someone did take her to protect her and she is safe somewhere....:sad:

[Elyssa]

She is an adorable little doll. I gasped when I read tht she is 11 pounds...my youngest was 10 3 at birth!!! I pray that someone did take her to protect her and she is safe somewhere....:sad:

debbadoo,
Same here my oldest weighted almost 9 pounds at birth and was well above 11 pounds in a few weeks.
Poor baby Shannon:sad:

[Elyssa]

I'm bolding most of my post because this information is important.

Babysitter says mother said just weeks ago that she wished her baby would disappear. :scared:
http://www.newsherald.com/news/please-78782-child-chipley.html


SHOCKING>>>>>>OMG before Shannon disappeared the babysitter emailed the governor and pled'
PLEASE SAVE THAT CHILD.. THE Governers name is Charlie Crist.


From the article ---
CHIPLEY — Months before a 7-month-old girl disappeared from her family’s home, her baby sitter pleaded with the governor to “please, please save that child” from her parents’ alleged pattern of drug use, abuse and “really strange things,” according to an e-mail obtained


I hope the governor has nightmares forever. grgrgrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[moonlite]

And, the babysitter may be the same person involved in another missing child case from about 20 years ago???

Greetings"
Rayosunshine"

Is this what you are referring to?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/baker_paul.html

Moonlite

[Santa'sMom]

I'm bolding most of my post because this information is important.

Babysitter says mother said just weeks ago that she wished her baby would disappear. :scared:
http://www.newsherald.com/news/please-78782-child-chipley.html


SHOCKING>>>>>>OMG before Shannon disappeared the babysitter emailed the governor and pled'
PLEASE SAVE THAT CHILD.. THE Governers name is Charlie Crist.


From the article ---



I hope the governor has nightmares forever. grgrgrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Did you read the e-mail to the gov? It went on and on about how no one was working but they were getting gov assistance and how it wasn't fair that they should live off the government while her husband has to work 58 hours a week. She seemed to throw the idea of the baby needing help every now and then as an almost after-thought. She was also found guilty of abusing her step-daughter and is a POI in the case of her missing step-son, who authorities appear to believe was harmed. I'm afraid that if I got that particular happy meal, I'd be complaining to management about all the missing fries. Certainly my own opinion, only.

[VC2]

Did you read the e-mail to the gov? It went on and on about how no one was working but they were getting gov assistance and how it wasn't fair that they should live off the government while her husband has to work 58 hours a week. She seemed to throw the idea of the baby needing help every now and then as an almost after-thought. She was also found guilty of abusing her step-daughter and is a POI in the case of her missing step-son, who authorities appear to believe was harmed. I'm afraid that if I got that particular happy meal, I'd be complaining to management about all the missing fries. Certainly my own opinion, only.

and he didn't ignore it:

The next day, Baker said, she received a call from a Child Protective Services worker who said he would investigate. She said she didn’t hear of any progress after that.

I would say that was immediate action, it is not Crists fault if they decided the allegations were unfounded.

btw, all the pics of the baby, i agree with puff, i think something else is wrong with her than neglect or just neglect. I mean some developmental disease.

imo

[delsina363]

I have been following this case, however, there does not seem to be any new news.

[TBIBeg]

No coincidences or rumors. If you accuse or surmise post a link for proof.

sur·mise: to conclude that something is the case on the basis of only limited evidence or intuitive feeling

How do you provide a link for that? Isn't that what IMO is for?


I am torn between thinking the babysitter may have actually taken her and one of the parents hurt her. Is that statement against TOS? I don't understand the rules anymore.

[Rayosunshine]

sur·mise: to conclude that something is the case on the basis of only limited evidence or intuitive feeling

How do you provide a link for that? Isn't that what IMO is for?


I am torn between thinking the babysitter may have actually taken her and one of the parents hurt her. Is that statement against TOS? I don't understand the rules anymore.

Think it means to discuss the facts only as they are released. That would make for a very very small forum with very limited room for discussion.

[Rayosunshine]

http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-...ker-class.html

[moonlite]

http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-...ker-class.html

Greetings"
Rayosunshine"

I don't think the link is working? I got a 404 error message?

Moonlite

[jakee]

Is this the link?

http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html

[Breazy]

Is this the link?

http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm....

[jakee]

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm....

Do we know how Shannon's mother found Susan to be the babysitter? If this family had know about this babysitter's past, surely they would not have hired her? She was convicted for beating a little girl and sentenced to 10 years in prison! And the little boy has never been found.

I am not sure if we can talk about this, but it is in the article? I am also trying to catch up on all the people involved.

[moonlite]

Is this the link?

http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html

Greetings"
Jakee"

Thanks for the link. I think the babysitter should be considered a POI, in Shannon's case.IMO Now according to this article' POI' niece states that it was a technicality that POI' was convicted of child abuse. IMO' that statement boggles my mind.
Now this is just my opinion; but does this babysitter suffer from some type Münchhausen syndrome or something? I mean one child missing' one child taken away. Now another child that goes missing?

Moonlite

[TBIBeg]

Greetings"
Jakee"

Thanks for the link. I think the babysitter should be considered a POI, in Shannon's case.IMO Now according to this article' POI' niece states that it was a technicality that POI' was convicted of child abuse. IMO' that statement boggles my mind.
Now this is just my opinion; but does this babysitter suffer from some type Münchhausen syndrome or something? I mean one child missing' one child taken away. Now another child that goes missing?

Moonlite

http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html

According to the article linked, the babysitter is the POI. You will see the remarks by her niece:

"That's the only reason they're putting her as a person of interest now is because of all of that crap that happened way back when," Phillips said.

[Heidi J.]

Missing Florida Baby Investigation Now Focused on Sitter, Who Wrote Warning Letter to Governor

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,571670,00.html

:crying:

[jakee]

Greetings"
Jakee"

Thanks for the link. I think the babysitter should be considered a POI, in Shannon's case.IMO Now according to this article' POI' niece states that it was a technicality that POI' was convicted of child abuse. IMO' that statement boggles my mind.
Now this is just my opinion; but does this babysitter suffer from some type Münchhausen syndrome or something? I mean one child missing' one child taken away. Now another child that goes missing?

Moonlite

That is an interesting point. hmmm I just hope if this Susan did take baby Shannon, she hasn't harmed her. :sad:

[Rayosunshine]

Is this the link?

http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html


Yes, that is the link.

[Rayosunshine]

Do we know how Shannon's mother found Susan to be the babysitter? If this family had know about this babysitter's past, surely they would not have hired her? She was convicted for beating a little girl and sentenced to 10 years in prison! And the little boy has never been found.

I am not sure if we can talk about this, but it is in the article? I am also trying to catch up on all the people involved.

If it is true that Shannon's mother had some type of developmental delay or other problem related to lower than average intelligence, I don't see how she would know to check these things out. It is possible that SB is an opportunist.

[jakee]

If it is true that Shannon's mother had some type of developmental delay or other problem related to lower than average intelligence, I don't see how she would know to check these things out. It is possible that SB is an opportunist.

Yes, that makes sense. :sad:

I am keeping my hopes up that the baby is fine and will be found soon.

[bugout]

That is an interesting point. hmmm I just hope if this Susan did take baby Shannon, she hasn't harmed her. :sad:

Well there is already a child that never was seen alive again. I don't have a lot of hope at this point. Maybe they did take her; why isn't there more live news, of footage at their home, etc.

This case went national. I'd like to see if they are searching their home.
I'd like to know if the Bakers, are unaccounted for at this point and time.

Bug

[Breazy]

Sure hope that this Susan isn't trashing Shannon's parents just to take the heat off her own *ss. Looks like it could be though. Wonder if anything she has said about them is true?

[bugout]

http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/69090642.html

Old file footage of Bakers Mug Shots and case info...

:rose:

Bug

[bugout]

Sure hope that this Susan isn't trashing Shannon's parents just to take the heat off her own *ss. Looks like it could be though. Wonder if anything she has said about them is true?

I'm still wondering if they were the ones on the live chat online...someone close to the bakers have been online slamming the parents, on the link I just gave.

Bug

[moonlite]

Well there is already a child that never was seen alive again. I don't have a lot of hope at this point. Maybe they did take her; why isn't there more live news, of footage at their home, etc.

This case went national. I'd like to see if they are searching their home.
I'd like to know if the Bakers, are unaccounted for at this point and time.

Bug

Greetings"
Bugout"

I would like to know more about the van seen in baby Shannon's drive way. I mean the time frame etc. I really hope that baby Shannon will be found and is ok.

Moonlite

[moonlite]

http://www.wjhg.com/home/headlines/69090642.html

Old file footage of Bakers Mug Shots and case info...

:rose:

Bug

Greetings"
Bugout"

Thanks for the link. Does anyone know if the POI' has taken a lie detector test?

Moonlite

[raz]

I just cant figure why or how these folks would even have a babysitter...There are no jobs,seems like they are barely making it. so how do they have money for a sitter?:unsure:
Also I bet the parents of the other children this babysitter is watching are worried as heck.
just opinon.:confused:

[bugout]

Hiyas Moonlite! I sure hope they can find her alive. I didn't have any hope after the days slipped by but now, knowing there is a break maybe she is alive. Maybe she really did have access to their home, slipped in and took her from her crib!!
Someone close to the Bakers was online slamming them, and she is the one who thinks this child should be removed from the home....so

where are the bakers now??

bug

[Elyssa]

SITTER who wrote letter is focus of investigation. :angry:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,571670,00.html



The baby sitter of a missing Florida infant is now being investigating in 7-month-old Shannon Dedrick's disappearance, authorities said Wednesday.

Praying for baby Shannon.

[bugout]

IN One local chat there is someone claiming that the bakers home is being guarded and also their street but I cannot find confirmation or live video of that.
But since they have made that announcement, sounds like a search warrant in effect to ME.
Hugs everyone, hopefully this little one will come home safe.

Bug :rose:

[VC2]

IN One local chat there is someone claiming that the bakers home is being guarded and also their street but I cannot find confirmation or live video of that.
But since they have made that announcement, sounds like a search warrant in effect to ME.
Hugs everyone, hopefully this little one will come home safe.

Bug :rose:

Washington County sheriff's investigators were working on that connection Wednesday. Around 12:50 p.m. Wednesday, two deputies from Holmes and Jackson counties were at the gate to the Bakers' property. The home was not visible, sitting down a long path and blocked by a hill.
http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html

title says:BREAKING UPDATES: Deputies block entrance at baby sitter's home

[bugout]

Yes it does, I want a LIVE feed though :( I guess we only get that in high profile cases, which is absurd, what is the difference between shannon and caylee a? All should be treated equally. Unless of course, LE is making a point they will never let the media in again !!
Grrrr

That woman is huge; last night in the local chat someone posted a family photo of her and her husband and I couldn't imagine the child in her care.
I was creeped out.

Bug

[n/t]

Prayers for Shannon. I don't think this will end well. :crying:

[EvilEyeBall]

I'm confused....The sitter was a POI in another case years ago? Alledgedly the child was being abused by the parents and then went missing?

Same in this case?

I think I will hope that she removed the baby to protect it and it's safe, warm and loved right now.

[EvilEyeBall]

oooooooooooooooooooh...nevermind the above post. I finally caught up on the thread and read all the links

[VC2]

Yes it does, I want a LIVE feed though :( I guess we only get that in high profile cases, which is absurd, what is the difference between shannon and caylee a? All should be treated equally. Unless of course, LE is making a point they will never let the media in again !!
Grrrr

That woman is huge; last night in the local chat someone posted a family photo of her and her husband and I couldn't imagine the child in her care.
I was creeped out.

Bug

Well now it looks like she may be a POI i think i have the answer to why mom/bf have not made statements etc. and that LE said they were speaking for them.

Lets say as has been noted by some including family of the mom, they are mentally challenged, as in slow not to challenged to be able to care for a child -the aunt said that she was above that threshold but dcf did keep any eye out and they got help etc. but to slow to do things like check out babysitter's history or speak to the media without it being a disaster for them.

First of all, many parents don't think to check out a babysitter's background if they are befriended. We watch these cases, most don't. Who imagines that a woman of middle age is going to have beaten or possibly killed a child and spent 10 years in prison for it. Even here where it should be no surprise, posters were shocked at melissa huckaby, so i don't slam them for it.

But what LE said may be absolutely the truth. They were speaking for the parents, because they would not have been able to make a plea in a way that caused viewers to think anything but the worst.

They should have checked on the baby earlier but we don't know all the details. The van was seen there.

So i am thinking alot of the hinky things about the parents may simply be LE protecting a couple that is not up to the viciousness of a media storm when they believe it is someone else involved.

Of course i could be wrong but i prefer my opinion of why.

imo

[4Kids]

If it is true that Shannon's mother had some type of developmental delay or other problem related to lower than average intelligence, I don't see how she would know to check these things out. It is possible that SB is an opportunist.

I agree. I also wonder if the babysitter is the person who is posting on various newspaper comment sections claiming to be a family member "in the know". Did this couple really do drugs? Was DCF actually investigating? Did this mother ever say she didn't want this baby? Or was the person making these accusations a convicted child abuser and POI of a missing persons case.

Hinky meter? I'd say. But not for the Mother....but the sitter. IMO

[bhardy1956]

Sure hope that this Susan isn't trashing Shannon's parents just to take the heat off her own *ss. Looks like it could be though. Wonder if anything she has said about them is true?

To me, what you post makes sense! What if this Susan was abusing little baby Shannon, and accidently killed her and now is directing the blame towards the parents?
I hope Shannon is still alive and I hope they find her soon. But, none of this looks good. IMO

[Jayne]

Wow...

why would this woman write the state governor about concerns and then be the POI? Smokescreen? Then make statements? Sure seems very stupid to do.

jmo

J

[bhardy1956]

I'm still wondering if they were the ones on the live chat online...someone close to the bakers have been online slamming the parents, on the link I just gave.

Bug

Will you PM the link to the live chat that they were on? TIA!

[moonlite]

Prayers for Shannon. I don't think this will end well. :crying:

Greetings'
N/T'

I hope and pray baby Shannon is alive and well!!!

Moonlite

[moonlite]

Wow...

why would this woman write the state governor about concerns and then be the POI? Smokescreen? Then make statements? Sure seems very stupid to do.

jmo

J

Greetings'
Jayne"

If this POI' turns out to be the one to have taken baby Shannon, then POI is very sick. IMO I mean there has got to be a clinical type of name for a POI' who would behave this way.IMO

But it has been known for a POI to insert themselves into a investigation.IMO I mean how many times have we heard a profiler say that a POI' went to an event of a missing person, etc.

Maybe this is the POI way of saying look at me (here I am) the attention of the whole incident. Then again maybe POI is insulting the law enforcements intelligence; by saying I got by with it once' I can do it again.IMO

I really hope baby Shannon is found and ok.

Moonlite

[omsk99]

Wow...

why would this woman write the state governor about concerns and then be the POI? Smokescreen? Then make statements? Sure seems very stupid to do.

jmo

J

I am so with you on that one! It doesn't make sense to me - she writes a letter that she is concerned for the child's well-being, and then kidnaps the baby? Why, because she is concerned? What was she going to do with Shannon (IF that were true)?

As far as the letter goes - unless it was an e-mail which shows the e-mail had been indeed sent, she could have written a letter now and say she had mailed it before and this is just a copy...

If the child did disappear sometime during the night/early morning, why would the babysitter need to sneak in to kidnap the baby, to provide for an alibi/smokescreen that she was not with the child when she went missing?

Could have someone cared so deeply for someone else's child as to commit a crime to protect her, AFTER having beaten and abused her own stepson? I do not believe that's possible. JMO

[Darcy]

Wow...

why would this woman write the state governor about concerns and then be the POI? Smokescreen? Then make statements? Sure seems very stupid to do.

jmo

J


Hey Jayne, it sounds like perhaps, she was anticipating that baby Shannon may be in danger. Being an 'upstanding' babysitter she was laying out her defense, should accusations come her way. Maybe she was unaware that 'googling' her name would reveal her past life history.
Munchhausen Syndrome by Proxy, (DSM-lV), as someone mentioned earlier fits very well into this scenario. People with MSP are usually accomplished liars, they appear helpful to health care workers, police,nurses, people in authority.
They are attention seekers who glean importance, enjoy the notoriety, appreciation and attention from professionals.
Fabricating that the child has been abused by others to professionals, she may feel herself, an heroic, kind, caring and compassionate person.
Just some thoughts, :ohmy:

[bhardy1956]

Hey Jayne, it sounds like perhaps, she was anticipating that baby Shannon may be in danger. Being an 'upstanding' babysitter she was laying out her defense, should accusations come her way. Maybe she was unaware that 'googling' her name would reveal her past life history.
Munchhausen Syndrome by Proxy, (DSM-lV), as someone mentioned earlier fits very well into this scenario. People with MSP are usually accomplished liars, they appear helpful to health care workers, police,nurses, people in authority.
They are attention seekers who glean importance, enjoy the notoriety, appreciation and attention from professionals.
Fabricating that the child has been abused by others to professionals, she may feel herself, an heroic, kind, caring and compassionate person.
Just some thoughts, :ohmy:

Or she was abusing the baby herself and setting up the parents as responsible?

[Darcy]

Or she was abusing the baby herself and setting up the parents as responsible?



Yes bhardy, that maybe exactly what she did. I am surprised that with DCF input, the babysitter was not police checked, maybe they were not aware of the sitter? Here in England, any and everyone who has contact with children in that capacity, social workers, teachers, sports coaches, bus drivers, life guards, scout leaders, nurses, caretakers and volunteer organisations must be police checked and cannot be employed until clearance has been met. Unfortunately there are always those who slip through the net. Such a terrible problem in every country around the globe. :crying:

[Rucky*Ron]

<<<Snipped>>>

"...... to care for a child -the aunt said that she was above that threshold but dcf did keep any eye out and they got help etc. imo

Please tell me Susan the "babysitter" wasn't sent by DCF as part of the help offered.. :scared:

[Rayosunshine]

Or she was abusing the baby herself and setting up the parents as responsible?

Or maybe her plans were to "find" the baby and be a hero??!!

[annalyzer]

What if this Susan was abusing little baby Shannon, and accidently killed her and now is directing the blame towards the parents?
IMO

But the parents saw their baby last and this Susan wasn't around. :confused:

[VC2]

<<<Snipped>>>



Please tell me Susan the "babysitter" wasn't sent by DCF as part of the help offered.. :scared:

no lol, not that i know of, i am assuming things like formula if they couldn't afford it etc.

[VC2]

But the parents saw their baby last and this Susan wasn't around. :confused:

iirc the sitters gray van had been seen at the trailer that morning by the neighbor.

[Clara Harris]

no lol, not that i know of, i am assuming things like formula if they couldn't afford it etc.

The DCF file can be read online. I didn't see anything about a "babysitter".

Maybe Baker just inserted herself into the family's life and they readily accepted. Or she could have been one of the former roommates?

[moonlite]

iirc the sitters gray van had been seen at the trailer that morning by the neighbor.

Greetings"
VC2'

Exactly!! That is why I'm hoping for more clarification of the time line of events. I mean what time was it that the van was spotted that morning?

Moonlite

[SnowWhite]

A leopard doesn't change it's spots.


What are the ODDS???? Nope. LE is doing their job well on this one and hopefully they will crack the cold case of this other missing 3 year old.

Amazing, simply amazing.

[Jayne]

I really would like to know whose truck it was in that picture..with the license plate "JESUS" on it..it was a red truck with the front grill damaged.

Saying no more..would just like to know if it was the parents' truck..the babysitters' truck..or whose?

jmo

J

[Chica]

I just cant figure why or how these folks would even have a babysitter...There are no jobs,seems like they are barely making it. so how do they have money for a sitter?:unsure:
Also I bet the parents of the other children this babysitter is watching are worried as heck.
just opinon.:confused:

Taxpayers are paying their way. Maybe they pay in food stamps. Is Susan still married to Paul?

[Chica]

IN One local chat there is someone claiming that the bakers home is being guarded and also their street but I cannot find confirmation or live video of that.
But since they have made that announcement, sounds like a search warrant in effect to ME.
Hugs everyone, hopefully this little one will come home safe.

Bug :rose:

This is it: http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html

[Ladygator]

There are way too many children from Florida on these boards right now. I've never seen so many active cases at one time. It's scary!!

A 7 month old baby would not be considered by a SO, IMO. Possible, yeah, there are a lot of sick twists in this world, but doubtful.

Either someone in the family or a woman who stole Shannon to keep her as her own.

I just hope LE looks at all angles. Florida doesn't need another Baby Sabrina case.

[Chica]

I'm confused....The sitter was a POI in another case years ago? Alledgedly the child was being abused by the parents and then went missing?

Same in this case?

I think I will hope that she removed the baby to protect it and it's safe, warm and loved right now.

You need to reread...The babysitter, Susan is the stepmother of the boy who went missing 22 yrs ago. She (Susan) was found guilty of child abuse and sentenced to 10 yrs, but woohoo, got time served. Same person 2 missing children.

[Chica]

oooooooooooooooooooh...nevermind the above post. I finally caught up on the thread and read all the links

woooooooops, sorry, so did I...just trying to help.

[Riverwalk!]

You need to reread...The babysitter, Susan is the stepmother of the boy who went missing 22 yrs ago. She (Susan) was found guilty of child abuse and sentenced to 10 yrs, but woohoo, got time served. Same person 2 missing children.

Yep and add to that Susan Baker beat the snot out of her other stepchild, Nina (age 6 at the time), who did survive but sent to live with bio-mom's family.

Paul Baker is still missing.
http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html

[Chica]

A leopard doesn't change it's spots.


What are the ODDS???? Nope. LE is doing their job well on this one and hopefully they will crack the cold case of this other missing 3 year old.

Amazing, simply amazing.

Wouldn't that be the frosting on the cake?

[Chica]

There are way too many children from Florida on these boards right now. I've never seen so many active cases at one time. It's scary!!

A 7 month old baby would not be considered by a SO, IMO. Possible, yeah, there are a lot of sick twists in this world, but doubtful.

Either someone in the family or a woman who stole Shannon to keep her as her own.

I just hope LE looks at all angles. Florida doesn't need another Baby Sabrina case.

I agree. Florida has become a very scary place for children.

[VC2]

The DCF file can be read online. I didn't see anything about a "babysitter".

Maybe Baker just inserted herself into the family's life and they readily accepted. Or she could have been one of the former roommates?

apparently they are searching babysitters van NOW. as per nancy grace.

[Clara Harris]

apparently they are searching babysitters van NOW. as per nancy grace.


Sorry I wasn't clear. Let me try again.

The DCF investigation report is available online. I read it and there is no mention of them providing any type of babysitter to provide assistance to the family.



Thanks for the NG update. We have baseball on. lol

[Justice4all]

apparently they are searching babysitters van NOW. as per nancy grace.

I sure hope they find Shannon alive.

[VC2]

good point by attorney on NG. who writes a letter to the governor instead of sheriffs office or dcf? That is a good ex. of something wrong..

Godmother on, a neighbor of theirs, said she would often go over unannounced and the baby was well looked after. She was a preemie at birth.

[Clara Harris]

This article is from yesterday
A state Department of Children and Families spokeswoman said the agency was helping authorities in the case. Any records of agency action on the child’s behalf, however, would be confidential unless Shannon was found dead, said spokeswoman Barbara Ash.



Tonight, the DCF report is on the site? Has it been said why it was released?


http://www.newsherald.com/articles/person-78739-baby-case.html

[Justice4all]

This article is from yesterday




Tonight, the DCF report is on the site? Has it been said why it was released?


http://www.newsherald.com/articles/person-78739-baby-case.html

Ohhhhhhhhh i hope they didn't find her dead :crying:
How can this keep happening....Breaks my heart.

[VC2]

Sorry I wasn't clear. Let me try again.

The DCF investigation report is available online. I read it and there is no mention of them providing any type of babysitter to provide assistance to the family.



Thanks for the NG update. We have baseball on. lol

i never thought they provided this sitter. rucky was asking about i and i said i didn't think so.

Just had a thought about the 11:00 am wakeup. Parents went to bed late, 3 am, may have given a last feeding then, and normally would wake earlier when baby cries for food. no baby cries, parent's don't wake.

Rucky did have a question about why a sitter, at least from what we have heard she has been there or seen there quite a bit. She may not be the "parents out for the night" sort of sitter but more a mothers helper, with a key to the trailer..if they even locked it, to be there when mom is too if she has some challenges and help out while baby is so young.

So the sound of her walking in the room while they slept may not have wakened them just because the sound of this sitter is familiar and would not spook sleep if she slipped in and out quickly.

Personallyt she has me off the charts suspicious. A missing child, another child with broken bones and beatings which she spent 10 years in prison for, i believe the NMCE words in the article were "a high degree of aggravated assault" and used the word heinous as well.

Somehow...i see her as more likely than the parents who so far don't seem to have a lot against them apart from some form of developmental delay issue which in no way means child killer. Could be wrong to but i think LE has her first on the list.

IMO

[SnowWhite]

Wouldn't that be the frosting on the cake?


Check this Chica;


http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html

"Baker, who was in contact with The News Herald multiple times Tuesday night,"


Reminds me of Melissa Huckaby in the Sandra Cantu case she was calling into the news all the time too. She'd a probably gotten away with it if she would have kept her mouth shut.



If LE never did find Paul Baker's body then this woman is pretty well experienced in hiding a body. Amazing.

[Clara Harris]

i never thought they provided this sitter. rucky was asking about i and i said i didn't think so.

Just had a thought about the 11:00 am wakeup. Parents went to bed late, 3 am, may have given a last feeding then, and normally would wake earlier when baby cries for food. no baby cries, parent's don't wake.

Rucky did have a question about why a sitter, at least from what we have heard she has been there or seen there quite a bit. She may not be the "parents out for the night" sort of sitter but more a mothers helper, with a key to the trailer..if they even locked it, to be there when mom is too if she has some challenges and help out while baby is so young.

So the sound of her walking in the room while they slept may not have wakened them just because the sound of this sitter is familiar and would not spook sleep if she slipped in and out quickly.

Personallyt she has me off the charts suspicious. A missing child, another child with broken bones and beatings which she spent 10 years in prison for, i believe the NMCE words in the article were "a high degree of aggravated assault" and used the word heinous as well.

Somehow...i see her as more likely than the parents who so far don't seem to have a lot against them apart from some form of developmental delay issue which in no way means child killer. Could be wrong to but i think LE has her first on the list.

IMO

Thanks, VC


I am trying to find article where Baker made the comments about the door being locked and her being allowed to take baby. BRB

[VC2]

This article is from yesterday




Tonight, the DCF report is on the site? Has it been said why it was released?


http://www.newsherald.com/articles/person-78739-baby-case.html

oh geeze, good catch Clara. Hopefully as the result of a FOIA request..or they found her dead or enough to tell them she is (enough blood for example)

[Ladygator]

This article is from yesterday




Tonight, the DCF report is on the site? Has it been said why it was released?


http://www.newsherald.com/articles/person-78739-baby-case.html

IIRC, the DCF report on Trenton Duckett was released. As was the DCF report from when Casey Anthony was interviewed.

It's becoming the norm, I guess.

[Clara Harris]

oh geeze, good catch Clara. Hopefully as the result of a FOIA request..or they found her dead or enough to tell them she is (enough blood for example)


Hey VC, you are probably right abt FOIA

Here is article about doors, etc., from Baker

Baker eventually detailed a night two weeks ago when Mercer sat on a bed and “said she wished that Shannon would disappear because Shannon’s not Rusty’s daughter, and she wished that Shannon was gone, so she could have a baby with Rusty.”

It disturbed Baker to see Shannon’s parents so uncaring, she said. She claimed there were many times she was allowed to take Shannon away for “as long as I wanted.”But a stranger’s abduction was impossible, she said, as the family’s door remained latch-bolted shut every day, and “there was no way in this world that anybody could get in that trailer.”

Baker, in the middle of baby-sitting other children Tuesday night, said she wants more interrogations done in the case.

“They need to pin Tina against the wall … until she tells them what she did with that baby,” Baker said.

http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/baby-22199-chipley-continues.html

[SnowWhite]

oh geeze, good catch Clara. Hopefully as the result of a FOIA request..or they found her dead or enough to tell them she is (enough blood for example)


Where are you seeing the actual report released? I see bits of information within the articles.

[SnowWhite]

Let's hope this is the end of this woman's babysitting career. Good Grief.

[VC2]

Thanks, VC


I am trying to find article where Baker made the comments about the door being locked and her being allowed to take baby. BRB

what is frustrating and sad if the parents are not involved, is that almost all the things that made even me suspicious (i am the one who gives benefit of the doubt to parents of missing children to the nth degree) can be explained, including some of the damaging comments coming from this woman (letter to gov for ex.)

I get the feeling that LE is protecting their privacy, only explanation for the complete clampdown on news/info about the parents especially the unusual statement by the sheriff that he is acting as their spokesman in the first presser.

This does two things, doesn't put a possibly vulnerable couple out for the media to feed on especially if they aren't the smartly dressed perfect parents outwardly. It also keeps them under wraps if they are involved and helping the investigation through interviews.

So far we haven't even heard of where they are staying, it isn't the trailer, a reporter was there yesterday and seems no one is there at the moment. For some reason everyone who knows them is keeping very quiet apart from simple facts like the neighbor of when she came to ask if they saw anyone, or the godmom of shannon today.

another telling thing, reporters seem to be respecting this as well. I do not believe that with the media scrum as it usually is, they haven't reported every single detail, photo and anything else about the parents unless LE convinced them of a good reason not to. They could get most of it imo..at least personal details anyway
imo

IMO

[Clara Harris]

what is frustrating and sad if the parents are not involved, is that almost all the things that made even me suspicious (i am the one who gives benefit of the doubt to parents of missing children to the nth degree) can be explained, including some of the damaging comments coming from this woman (letter to gov for ex.)

I get the feeling that LE is protecting their privacy, only explanation for the complete clampdown on news/info about the parents especially the unusual statement by the sheriff that he is acting as their spokesman in the first presser.

This does two things, doesn't put a possibly vulnerable couple out for the media to feed on especially if they aren't the smartly dressed perfect parents outwardly. It also keeps them under wraps if they are involved and helping the investigation through interviews.

So far we haven't even heard of where they are staying, it isn't the trailer, a reporter was there yesterday and seems no one is there at the moment. For some reason everyone who knows them is keeping very quiet apart from simple facts like the neighbor of when she came to ask if they saw anyone, or the godmom of shannon today.

another telling thing, reporters seem to be respecting this as well. I do not believe that with the media scrum as it usually is, they haven't reported every single detail, photo and anything else about the parents unless LE convinced them of a good reason not to. They could get most of it imo..at least personal details anyway
imo

IMO


Good thoughts!

Another reason for lack of information is that this couple doesn't appear to have an internet life as far as I can tell. Have you?

[forensicfan]

i never thought they provided this sitter. rucky was asking about i and i said i didn't think so.

Just had a thought about the 11:00 am wakeup. Parents went to bed late, 3 am, may have given a last feeding then, and normally would wake earlier when baby cries for food. no baby cries, parent's don't wake.

Rucky did have a question about why a sitter, at least from what we have heard she has been there or seen there quite a bit. She may not be the "parents out for the night" sort of sitter but more a mothers helper, with a key to the trailer..if they even locked it, to be there when mom is too if she has some challenges and help out while baby is so young.

So the sound of her walking in the room while they slept may not have wakened them just because the sound of this sitter is familiar and would not spook sleep if she slipped in and out quickly.

Personallyt she has me off the charts suspicious. A missing child, another child with broken bones and beatings which she spent 10 years in prison for, i believe the NMCE words in the article were "a high degree of aggravated assault" and used the word heinous as well.

Somehow...i see her as more likely than the parents who so far don't seem to have a lot against them apart from some form of developmental delay issue which in no way means child killer. Could be wrong to but i think LE has her first on the list.

IMO

ITA! Your post makes the most sense to me.

[4Kids]

If these parents are indeed "special needs" parents, then respite care and other forms of assistance could very well be provided through the Department of Public Welfare. Many special needs children and adults get medical benefits which are not provided by regular insurers via DPW. Therapists, parental training, etc. Therefore, Ms. Baker may have been hired that way rather than through DCF. Let me additionally add...if this couple indeed are mentally challenged, I DON'T CONSIDER THEM LIVING OFF THE TAXPAYERS. More than likely....they are trudging by the best they can.

Now to my question.....Besides the letter to the governor and the message left on online newspaper comment sections, has it ever been determined if the boyfriend is NOT the father of this baby? Of if these parents were not loving or caring parents? Or if the Mom really said she didn't want this baby?

If these parents are simply special needs folks and innocent of this crime, kuddos to LE for protecting them. IMO

[SilentSanity]

If these parents are indeed "special needs" parents, then respite care and other forms of assistance could very well be provided through the Department of Public Welfare. Many special needs children and adults get medical benefits which are not provided by regular insurers via DPW. Therapists, parental training, etc. Therefore, Ms. Baker may have been hired that way rather than through DCF. Let me additionally add...if this couple indeed are mentally challenged, I DON'T CONSIDER THEM LIVING OFF THE TAXPAYERS. More than likely....they are trudging by the best they can.

Now to my question.....Besides the letter to the governor and the message left on online newspaper comment sections, has it ever been determined if the boyfriend is NOT the father of this baby? Of if these parents were not loving or caring parents? Or if the Mom really said she didn't want this baby?


If these parents are simply special needs folks and innocent of this crime, kuddos to LE for protecting them. IMO


When reading the DCF report, it describes various services provided to the family in different aspects outside of DCF, and none of them include any sort of babysitting service. Pretty sure I read somewhere that the babysitter is the fathers sister, but I don't have a link for that. It makes sense to me though..

The report is basically a review of the 2 involvements the family had with DCF and if they acted appropriately. Pretty sure I read in there that the father had no mental or physical disability, not sure why it does not reference his lack of employment though. Some sections are blacked out so don't know what info is there, but no mention of him not being the bio dad.

Everyone who interacted with the family reported parents who loved and were attentive to Shannon and her needs.. Link here..

http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html

To the right under "related multimedia"

[4Kids]

When reading the DCF report, it describes various services provided to the family in different aspects outside of DCF, and none of them include any sort of babysitting service. Pretty sure I read somewhere that the babysitter is the fathers sister, but I don't have a link for that. It makes sense to me though..

The report is basically a review of the 2 involvements the family had with DCF and if they acted appropriately. Pretty sure I read in there that the father had no mental or physical disability, not sure why it does not reference his lack of employment though. Some sections are blacked out so don't know what info is there, but no mention of him not being the bio dad.

Everyone who interacted with the family reported parents who loved and were attentive to Shannon and her needs.. Link here..

http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html

To the right under "related multimedia"

Thanks so much Silent. I will get to reading. IMO

[SilentSanity]

Thanks so much Silent. I will get to reading. IMO

No problem, happy to help out :)

[VC2]

If these parents are indeed "special needs" parents, then respite care and other forms of assistance could very well be provided through the Department of Public Welfare. Many special needs children and adults get medical benefits which are not provided by regular insurers via DPW. Therapists, parental training, etc. Therefore, Ms. Baker may have been hired that way rather than through DCF. Let me additionally add...if this couple indeed are mentally challenged, I DON'T CONSIDER THEM LIVING OFF THE TAXPAYERS. More than likely....they are trudging by the best they can.

Now to my question.....Besides the letter to the governor and the message left on online newspaper comment sections, has it ever been determined if the boyfriend is NOT the father of this baby? Of if these parents were not loving or caring parents? Or if the Mom really said she didn't want this baby?

If these parents are simply special needs folks and innocent of this crime, kuddos to LE for protecting them. IMO

First.. thank you for the right phrase. I didn't know quite how to phrase it.

Not that i know of..well maybe the aunt said it wasn't the father but i can't remember if so.

Most of the negative comments came from Baker or someone pretending to be a friend of the family on a chat on the paper (imo no friend of the family talks like that about them)

Clara, you are right about no internet presence but this is an area where people know each other (unlike an apartment block where no one does), rural..we know they interacted the neighbor she went to first, and the babies godmother is a neighbor too -who said she often went in unannounced, just tapped on the door and walked in which contradicts baker.

I doubt news stations would have any problem getting lots of information including confirming/denying the special needs, all the info on when they moved there, the relationship etc.

[Justice4all]

Let's hope this is the end of this woman's babysitting career. Good Grief.

IMO she's my #1 POI.......

[aproudmom]

A leopard doesn't change it's spots.


What are the ODDS???? Nope. LE is doing their job well on this one and hopefully they will crack the cold case of this other missing 3 year old.

Amazing, simply amazing.

I just saw this on NG I am in aw this womens step-son went missing and has never been found. I am so worried about this little girl.

[aproudmom]

IMO she's my #1 POI.......

IMO she is mine also Justice

[4Kids]

I just saw this on NG I am in aw this womens step-son went missing and has never been found. I am so worried about this little girl.

Proud....she was also convicted of child abuse regarding the missing child's 6 year old sister. IMO

[4Kids]

First.. thank you for the right phrase. I didn't know quite how to phrase it.

Not that i know of..well maybe the aunt said it wasn't the father but i can't remember if so.

Most of the negative comments came from Baker or someone pretending to be a friend of the family on a chat on the paper (imo no friend of the family talks like that about them)

Clara, you are right about no internet presence but this is an area where people know each other (unlike an apartment block where no one does), rural..we know they interacted the neighbor she went to first, and the babies godmother is a neighbor too -who said she often went in unannounced, just tapped on the door and walked in which contradicts baker.

I doubt news stations would have any problem getting lots of information including confirming/denying the special needs, all the info on when they moved there, the relationship etc.

VC2...where did you read about the godmother? I missed those comments. Thanks for any info.

IMO

[VC2]

the link says there is a missing baby update coming tonight then highlighted some of the days happenings as a partial acct.
Dont know if its a presser or more info

[VC2]

VC2...where did you read about the godmother? I missed those comments. Thanks for any info.

IMO

She was a phone guest on Nancy Grace tonight

[Chica]

Just offered while Nancy was on phone w/Godmother...not a good sign imo.

[aproudmom]

Check this Chica;


http://www.newsherald.com/news/span-78790-baker-class.html

"Baker, who was in contact with The News Herald multiple times Tuesday night,"


Reminds me of Melissa Huckaby in the Sandra Cantu case she was calling into the news all the time too. She'd a probably gotten away with it if she would have kept her mouth shut.



If LE never did find Paul Baker's body then this woman is pretty well experienced in hiding a body. Amazing.

OMG Snow your so right I said that when we found out she was the one that killed that poor baby she just could not shut up she loved the attention

[4Kids]

OK....according to the docs I read from DCF, this couple smoked cigs and pot and their house was messy. That's it? I bet there are thousands of homes in this country where this is the standard. Not the best, IMO, but certainly not the worst. IMO

ETA. Much more benign background than that of the babysitter. POI in a missing child case and a convicted child abuser. IMO

[Chica]

Sorry I wasn't clear. Let me try again.

The DCF investigation report is available online. I read it and there is no mention of them providing any type of babysitter to provide assistance to the family.



Thanks for the NG update. We have baseball on. lol

I think when that was suggested, the poster was being facetious..we were wondering how the mother could afford a babysitter when she and her bf didn't work? I suggested maybe she paid in food stamps as they are on welfare.

[aproudmom]

Just offered while Nancy was on phone w/Godmother...not a good sign imo.

Evening Chica is this the one that said they do not smoke pot and she comes in and they are always taking good care of the baby?

[Chica]

OMG Snow your so right I said that when we found out she was the one that killed that poor baby she just could not shut up she loved the attention

Do we have any pictures of Susan other than her early mug shot?

[Chica]

Evening Chica is this the one that said they do not smoke pot and she comes in and they are always taking good care of the baby?


yes, am I on the wrong thread? Gosh, there are just too many to keep up with..:scared:

[Clara Harris]

I think when that was suggested, the poster was being facetious..we were wondering how the mother could afford a babysitter when she and her bf didn't work? I suggested maybe she paid in food stamps as they are on welfare.


Ooops. I am kind of s-l-o-w tonight. lol

I am leaning towards Baker targeting them. On NG (I know, I know) someone said "sitter had only been there 2 months" :confused:

Baker seems to have a bead on these people. Maybe she targeted them? I have no idea why she would do this or anything else. Just sayin....JMT&OO

[aproudmom]

OK....according to the docs I read from DCF, this couple smoked cigs and pot and their house was messy. That's it? I bet there are thousands of homes in this country where this is the standard. Not the best, IMO, but certainly not the worst. IMO

ETA. Much more benign background than that of the babysitter. POI in a missing child case and a convicted child abuser. IMO

BBM
actually that is very scary IMO

[VC2]

Evening Chica is this the one that said they do not smoke pot and she comes in and they are always taking good care of the baby?

yes that they baby was always fine when she went in even unannounced, just dropping by.

They do smoke cigarettes but not dope.

oh and it was the godmother who is another neighbor of them..i get the feeling that they didn't have much family support, made friends easily though or considered ppl friends easily

[aproudmom]

Ooops. I am kind of s-l-o-w tonight. lol

I am leaning towards Baker targeting them. On NG (I know, I know) someone said "sitter had only been there 2 months" :confused:

Baker seems to have a bead on these people. Maybe she targeted them? I have no idea why she would do this or anything else. Just sayin....JMT&OO

They had moved though IIRC right? or am I thinking of the sitter and not the parents:confused:

[aproudmom]

yes that they baby was always fine when she went in even unannounced, just dropping by.

They do smoke cigarettes but not dope.

oh and it was the godmother who is another neighbor of them..i get the feeling that they didn't have much family support, made friends easily though or considered ppl friends easily

that is the way I understood also I missed parts of it but it comes on again at 1 so I am going to catch it again then. I was just shocked to hear this womens step-son went missing and has never been found and she baby sit and she may have done nothing but it really bothers me.