Daughter Accused Of Hiring Teen To Kill Mom, 58-year-old Kristy Marks

[GentleBreeze]

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/21421903/detail.html

Police said 20-year-old Taylor Marks put together a plan with her boyfriend, 20-year-old Brian Smith, to kill her mother, 58-year-old Kristy Marks, of Copley.

They said that the couple offered $5,000 to 19-year-old Troy Purdie to do the job. And police said he did.

Kristy Marks was stabbed multiple times near an apartment complex on Springdale Avenue on Saturday night.

[Jayne]

When does (or will it ever?) this stop?

Yeah...I put much blame on games, internet, lack of supervision, yet, it isn't always that, I agree, as well, with those of the "opposing views".

What makes a "child" believe it is OK to HIRE an assassin her their parent? (OR kill the parent, her/himself?). Over control, plain normal parental control, kids thinking they can get away with anything? Hate the control the parents put on them in the home? (I think this may be it in many situations..where the parent has simply been being a Parent.)

Think it is their way of being on Control? (I buy the last one...so many kids today "get" control of their homes..intimidation, fear, child larger than parent..parents don't want to get their kid in trouble..then..the kid strikes out?)

jmo

J

[birdwatch]

I'm shocked enough when children kill - but this is a 20 yr old. No way I would consider her a "child". She is of an age to be free and on her own and no longer under anyone's control. She has made her own choices by this age. She will be tried and convicted (I hope) as an adult. ( I do realize that you put "child" in quotes, Jayne; meaning "offspring" I assume.

[Jayne]

I'm shocked enough when children kill - but this is a 20 yr old. No way I would consider her a "child". She is of an age to be free and on her own and no longer under anyone's control. She has made her own choices by this age. She will be tried and convicted (I hope) as an adult. ( I do realize that you put "child" in quotes, Jayne; meaning "offspring" I assume.

Yes, BW..that is what I was referring to. I agree with you. Any murder is horrible, and child perverts/murderers bother me terribly. Parents who kill their own children and children/offspring who kill their own parent(s) -family to kill family just can't find any reasoning for this - other than mental instability, inability to control rage, etc.

Yes, I hope she is definitely convicted as an adult, which she is by any standard I'm aware of in the States, being over 18. She may certainly have not weilded the knife, but she Arranged for it. IMO that goes further than conspiracy - it's an accomplice. May as well have held the knife..she just used another person to do it for her - a puppet to do her will.

jmo

j

[Amy]

You have to wonder about the mentality of the people who agree to be paid to murder someone, too. A 20 y/o surely recognizes that $5000 is only going to last a short time. And, did he think he was so damn smart and wily that he could commit this murder and not get caught? WTH did he think was gonna happen when it was all said and done? I guess maybe some of these kids hear about other kids killing their parents, but they don't seem to follow thru and pay attention to what happened to those kids.

[Amy]

Wonder what this girl's problem w/her mom was? If her mom was too controlling, why the heck didn't the girl just move out? Oh, yeah, bet the girl hadn't done anything constructive to have the financial means to move out. Much cheaper living w/mom--who pays the mortgage, the electricity, the utilities and gas. Pays for the phone and the internet.

Surely she could have moved in w/boyfriend to get away from whatever disagreement she had w/mom. He would be paying for these things--unless HE was still living w/his parents. :shrug:

[LisaM22]

I'm shocked enough when children kill - but this is a 20 yr old. No way I would consider her a "child". She is of an age to be free and on her own and no longer under anyone's control. She has made her own choices by this age. She will be tried and convicted (I hope) as an adult. ( I do realize that you put "child" in quotes, Jayne; meaning "offspring" I assume.


well she would be arrested for being underage if she tried to buy beer, so I guess in that sense she is not yet fully an adult yet

[LisaM22]

Wonder what this girl's problem w/her mom was? If her mom was too controlling, why the heck didn't the girl just move out? Oh, yeah, bet the girl hadn't done anything constructive to have the financial means to move out. Much cheaper living w/mom--who pays the mortgage, the electricity, the utilities and gas. Pays for the phone and the internet.

Surely she could have moved in w/boyfriend to get away from whatever disagreement she had w/mom. He would be paying for these things--unless HE was still living w/his parents. :shrug:

not sure which was the boyfriend, but neither looked like the respectable type, your probably right, they were also living with their parents... and her parents may not of liked them

[GentleBreeze]

HLN had this case on their show this week.

It seems the daughter thought she would be the sole beneficiary of her mother's estate.

Her mother was said to have owned daycare centers.

The mother was the only living parent. The girl's father had passed away.

The daughter lured her mother to the home where she was under the pretense she needed her and when she arrived the hit man attacked and murdered her in the driveway of the residence.

It seems the motive was for financial gain.

imo

[birdwatch]

well she would be arrested for being underage if she tried to buy beer, so I guess in that sense she is not yet fully an adult yet Too bad she didn't have a beer and chill out - not a very serious charge.
Courts are trying kids as adults at earlier and earlier ages, it seems to me. I think there was a 12 yr old in MI, if I remember. What is the youngest child to be tried as an adult for murder? Anyone know?

[birdwatch]

Wonder what this girl's problem w/her mom was? If her mom was too controlling, why the heck didn't the girl just move out? Oh, yeah, bet the girl hadn't done anything constructive to have the financial means to move out. Much cheaper living w/mom--who pays the mortgage, the electricity, the utilities and gas. Pays for the phone and the internet.

Surely she could have moved in w/boyfriend to get away from whatever disagreement she had w/mom. He would be paying for these things--unless HE was still living w/his parents. :shrug: Yup - she moved into "the Projects" with her boyfriend and his mom. Someone said she had a "surburban girl's attraction to ghetto".
Her mom owned a home health care franchise which she inherited from her husband. I guess the girl picked up on the "inherited" idea.

[birdwatch]

I believe that there is a thread going about an 8 yr old boy who killed has father and another man.

This case is so sad. By all accounts she was a loving, supportive, generous Mother. I hope that in her final few minutes she didn't realize who was responsible.

I remember they wanted to charge the boy as an adult - but I don't think, in the end, that they did so. Anyone know?
I agree - it was a bad area so maybe she didn't know - but her daughter called her to come and it was right at the boyfriend's apt. complex.... so who knows? Apparently she habitually wore blinders when it came to her very spoiled daughter.

[Jayne]

I remember they wanted to charge the boy as an adult - but I don't think, in the end, that they did so. Anyone know?
I agree - it was a bad area so maybe she didn't know - but her daughter called her to come and it was right at the boyfriend's apt. complex.... so who knows? Apparently she habitually wore blinders when it came to her very spoiled daughter.

She HAD to know..don't you think?

When it Hit her?

Sure..she may have gone there..being Mom..but when attacked? Boyfriend's apartment? What Horror.

Her daughter and BF and the hired hitter should never walk the streets again, IMO. Equally responsible.

jmo

J

[EMAA]

Youngest ever to be charged as an adult in the US


http://wsws.org/articles/2007/jan2007/nath-j24.shtml

[birdwatch]

Youngest ever to be charged as an adult in the US


http://wsws.org/articles/2007/jan2007/nath-j24.shtml

OMIG - not only was he only 11, he was mentally challenged and the crime was an accidental shooting. Wierd! Now this girl had absolute intent and it was no accident; I wonder if she'll get as much time as that child did.

[Jayne]

OMIG - not only was he only 11, he was mentally challenged and the crime was an accidental shooting. Wierd! Now this girl had absolute intent and it was no accident; I wonder if she'll get as much time as that child did.

WOW. I do not remember that case. Accidental shooting..How did that end up with a sentence for murder? And a kid with mental issues. The Judge was fair and looking out for this kid's interest, IMO. I hope he has been rehabilitated...he's been educated, had mental health care, apparently.

In this case...it's brutal, planned, and by a definite Adult - and against her own mother. And, for money (allegedly). She should never get out, along with the killer and her boyfriend.

jmo

J

[birdwatch]

WOW. I do not remember that case. Accidental shooting..How did that end up with a sentence for murder? And a kid with mental issues. The Judge was fair and looking out for this kid's interest, IMO. I hope he has been rehabilitated...he's been educated, had mental health care, apparently.

In this case...it's brutal, planned, and by a definite Adult - and against her own mother. And, for money (allegedly). She should never get out, along with the killer and her boyfriend.

jmo

JHope we get updates. These things take so looooooong to come to trial, dont they?

[GentleBreeze]

OMIG - not only was he only 11, he was mentally challenged and the crime was an accidental shooting. Wierd! Now this girl had absolute intent and it was no accident; I wonder if she'll get as much time as that child did.


I remember that case. I don't know who is saying that it was an accidental murder. The jury certainly didn't believe it was and he was convicted of 2nd degree murder.

Geoffrey Fieger was his attorney.

http://www.fiegerlaw.com/landmark.php

Nathaniel Abraham
In 1999, Geoffrey Fieger represented Nathaniel Abraham, the youngest person ever tried for first-degree murder as an adult in the state of Michigan. The case gained national attention. Only 11 years old at the time of his arrest, his trial spotlighted the controversial issue of trying juvenile offenders in adult court. He received a verdict of second-degree murder. After trial the Court sentenced Abraham as a juvenile and sent him to a detention center until the age of 21. He was released in January 2007 but recently returned to jail after pleading guilty to drug charges.


Chris Pittman was 12 years old when he murdered both of his grandparents with a shotgun. He received 30 years and the appeals heard thus far have been denied.

imo

[Amy]

Yup - she moved into "the Projects" with her boyfriend and his mom. Someone said she had a "surburban girl's attraction to ghetto".
Her mom owned a home health care franchise which she inherited from her husband. I guess the girl picked up on the "inherited" idea.

The inherited idea is one of the reasons that, when I win the lottery, I (and the check writers) will be the only one to know about that. Don't want to be killed by anyone who might think he/she would come into a great sum of money if I were dead.

Plus, don't want all the million BFF coming out of the woodwork to bug me. The clerk who usually sells me my tickets laughs and says, if one of these is a winner, you are my new BFF!!!!

Wonder if the girl and/or her bf were into drugs and needed the money for their habits? Or, perhaps DD didn't want to have to get up every day to work for a living (maybe bf, too) and tho't her inheritance would allow her to not have to work? Wonder if she was going to sell Mom's franchise to get the money?

Perhaps she wanted Mom to buy her a new car, or maybe foot the bill for her and bf to get a place of their own? Or, maybe Mom had rules @ her house that had to be obeyed by even a 20 y/o. Of course, moving out would have solved that problem (Mom's control, if that was an issue.)

[birdwatch]

I remember that case. I don't know who is saying that it was an accidental murder. The jury certainly didn't believe it was and he was convicted of 2nd degree murder.

Geoffrey Fieger was his attorney.

http://www.fiegerlaw.com/landmark.php

Nathaniel Abraham
In 1999, Geoffrey Fieger represented Nathaniel Abraham, the youngest person ever tried for first-degree murder as an adult in the state of Michigan. The case gained national attention. Only 11 years old at the time of his arrest, his trial spotlighted the controversial issue of trying juvenile offenders in adult court. He received a verdict of second-degree murder. After trial the Court sentenced Abraham as a juvenile and sent him to a detention center until the age of 21. He was released in January 2007 but recently returned to jail after pleading guilty to drug charges.


Chris Pittman was 12 years old when he murdered both of his grandparents with a shotgun. He received 30 years and the appeals heard thus far have been denied.

imo The accidental murder statement is in the link above. The article stated the boy was 100 yards away - the bullet ricocheted off a tree and hit the victim. The boy did not know the victim. Wonder how an 11 yr old mentally retarded kid got a gun? Sounds like things worked out for the best for the boy - thanks to the judge.
I doubt that a judge will have any sympathy for any of the defendants in our current case. Vicious intent, imo.

[Jayne]

Hope we get updates. These things take so looooooong to come to trial, dont they?

They sure do..depending on what State the case is in. Backlogs in the states I worked in were unbelievable, however, the dockets were altered many times to get cases at the bench/jury asap. It's that "chess game" between the state/prosecution and defense - discovery issues, paperflogging (that's what I call it...motions, motions, motions, depositions, etc. etc. - Yes, they are necessary and required but often used as a delay tactic, too often, imo.)

Wonder what her statements were (of course, I'll never know) and if she and her attorney will get her off "easy"..mental instability, ignorance to what was really happening? (Hah, that's a prize one), entirely innocent..it was the boyfriend and his accomplice (the stabber)? Did she cry crocodile tears at her own mother's death?

jmo

J

[Bodicus]

Wonder what this girl's problem w/her mom was? If her mom was too controlling, why the heck didn't the girl just move out? Oh, yeah, bet the girl hadn't done anything constructive to have the financial means to move out. Much cheaper living w/mom--who pays the mortgage, the electricity, the utilities and gas. Pays for the phone and the internet.

Surely she could have moved in w/boyfriend to get away from whatever disagreement she had w/mom. He would be paying for these things--unless HE was still living w/his parents. :shrug:

I knew Kristie and Taylor,
She had moved out and thought she would try to get on disability, even asked mom to help her fill the paperwork out, which kristie refused. Even called the state to make sure that she didnt get it. There was no reason why she couldnt work.
Kristie couldnt even let her in her home cause the last time she was casing the place.
Kristie was an excellent mom and a wonderful giving person. Would give of herself before she took from anyone. This is a case of a ingrateful kid, who thought she should have it all and not have to work for it.
Kristie rest in peace...Love you

[Amy]

That's what I wondered. Some kids just seem to think they are entitled to an easy, comfy life--provided by the parent(s) for as long as they want to be supported. Some think they can walk out of the folks' home into the exact same lifestyle, not paying any mind to how long it took and how hard the parents had to work to get to that level. And, some kids don't take it too kindly when they have to work to to support themselves, and if mom and dad don't "help" them live the lifestyle they want, even as adults.

I remember some years back when a teen (16 or so) was missing. She was known as a good kid, and was brought up in a loving, two parent, Christian home. So, of course, she could not have been a runaway. I brought up @ that time that there ARE kids who rebel against such things as chores, curfews, restriction on friends (as in, no older kids, young adults, no kids already known to be in trouble w/the law, etc,) being grounded as punishment. And, even if everything looks hunky dory to the outside world, heaven only knows what conflicts go on in that home. And, sure enough, the girl had runaway, because she was seeing someone her parents did not approve of, and didn't like being grounded. I'm sure she probably didn't like doing chores, either, but they didn't get into that. @ least she was one of the ones who ran away instead of killing her parents for the perceived "dastardly unfair treatment."

[fastpitch]

iirc, age 20 is well above the legal age of adult in every state. In IL. that age was 17. She will be going to big girl prison for a long time. moo