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Justice4all

10-26-2009, 04:33 PM

My Mother,myself and my oldest sister are flying out to California tonight to be at the women's conference tomorrow. My two youngest sisters met Kate this morning when she was sitting in on the briefing on tomorrows schedule and they both said Kate was just a all around lovely lady. They both went there not a fan of hers and left loving her. So tomorrow night i might be on here and confess i'm loving Kate too LOL... My sister said she thinks TLC has only showed us one side of Kate and her new show might show the loving side of kate....

Mnchkin426

10-26-2009, 04:35 PM

Mnchkin426

10-26-2009, 04:42 PM

You know when your client gets caught with his hand in his own kid's cookie jar, gets paid to go all over on entertainment shows to lie about it, gets sued by TLC for doing so and then gets ordered to pay back the money......I guess all there is left to do is to try and muddy the waters.......did not work for me. Just makes me madder.

I just cannot believe that line he used about Kate having too many kids she does not know what to do. That is so shocking. How will those kids feel when they hear that? I just do not know how Jon could stand for that.

He has freebie attorney written all over him. JMO.......

I agree with most of what you wrote.....except the "freebie" part. Whether it is money or fame, or both, Heller wants. and is getting, something out of Jon. I have a strong feeling that Heller insists on controlling any lawyers that Jon hires and that may have been why Charlie Meyer has opted out. Can't say I blame him. Unfortunately, it may mean Jon may have trouble hiring a strong, smart divorce lawyer since that would threaten Heller's control.

JMO

Justice4all

10-26-2009, 04:54 PM

Hope you have a great time!

TY

Last year was great ...Really had a great time.

But this year i hope i have the courage to ask...Why do they have so many male speakers at a WOMEN'S CONFERENCE........:sneaky:

Justice4all

10-26-2009, 05:01 PM

Tomorrow their will be live feeds http://www.californiawomen.org/ all day...

Not sure Kate will be a speaker or not. I think she's just doing an interview and book signing.

My schedule has her down for Q&A interview and then book signing from 4:15-5:15. but last year the schedule that was put out ahead of time wasn't accurate so i'm really not sure.

daniel green

10-26-2009, 05:34 PM

Talk about Bitter!
http://www.tmz.com/

Old lady who lived in a glass house/shoe? :scared:

That poor man is as confused about the facts as he was about the law, given from his sanction-history.

Keeping it classy. :blushing:

Mnchkin426

10-26-2009, 05:35 PM

[QUOTE=Mnchkin426;13590817]I agree with most of what you wrote.....except the "freebie" part. Whether it is money or fame, or both, Heller wants. and is getting, something out of Jon. I have a strong feeling that Heller insists on controlling any lawyers that Jon hires and that may have been why Charlie Meyer has opted out. Can't say I blame him. Unfortunately, it may mean Jon may have trouble hiring a strong, smart divorce lawyer since that would threaten Heller's control

ITA........I sure as heck never heard of Heller till all this. He reminds me of the attorney for the man whose wife was the wrong way driver and killed all those people. He makes no sense and is someone I sure would not want standing beside me, yet alone as an attorney. Got to hand it to him........like Jon he knows how to get the media attention.

The blind leading the blind.........

JMO......

Sure wish he wouldn't shall we say "shade the truth" in the process. Don't think it helps Jon one bit.

JMO

daniel green

10-26-2009, 05:36 PM

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I just cannot believe that line he used about Kate having too many kids she does not know what to do. That is so shocking. How will those kids feel when they hear that? I just do not know how Jon could stand for that.

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Unreal.

Jon will lose custody, of course. That train is coming right on time.

Shameful performance by both Jon and his "lawyer" today.

Mnchkin426

10-26-2009, 05:37 PM

Old lady who lived in a glass house/shoe? :scared:

That poor man is as confused about the facts as he was about the law, given from his sanction-history.

Keeping it classy. :blushing:

Hey, at least he knows one nursery rhyme....even if he used it in a very strange way. LOL

daniel green

10-26-2009, 05:40 PM

Hey, at least he knows one nursery rhyme....even if he used it in a very strange way. LOL

Nothing like saying there are too many children. Unbelievable. I mean, not only tacky and stupid and wrong on every level for the children, but when you're speaking for a client in a the midst of a divorce?????? :scared:

daniel green

10-26-2009, 06:08 PM

That is what I am thinking........with child support X 8.

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Yeah. And it will happen, I have no doubt.

That may be one of the most insensitive, offensive and wrong-headed comments I have heard made by an atty of a person in a heated divorce. Sheesh.

Justice4all

10-26-2009, 06:32 PM

VIDEO: Kate Gosselin "I Don't Want To Be Alone - The Aloneness Is So Alone"

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/video-kate-gosselin-i-dont-want-be-alone-aloneness-so-alone

Justice4all

10-26-2009, 06:39 PM

Unreal.

Jon will lose custody, of course. That train is coming right on time.

Shameful performance by both Jon and his "lawyer" today.

In the past few months it seems like Jon's taking care of the children more then Kate. Kate's traveling the country trying to make her "tv career" successful. I doubt he'll lose custody. He needs a new lawyer.

MOO

Casecase

10-26-2009, 06:47 PM

In the past few months it seems like Jon's taking care of the children more then Kate. Kate's traveling the country trying to make her "tv career" successful. I doubt he'll lose custody. He needs a new lawyer.

MOO

I don't think he'll lose custody, either, but I don't think it seems like he's taking care of the children more than Kate - he's been photographed out and about from New York to L.A., too. Only difference is that her travel seems to be work-related and his, not so much.

Have a fantastic, safe trip to the women's conference! :biggrin:

IMO

Mnchkin426

10-26-2009, 07:33 PM

Is joint custody really possible in this situation?

JMO

StickyBeak

10-26-2009, 08:17 PM

I really did not follow the show until this drama emerged. I did see Kate acting like the Alpha dog of the family and felt sorry for Jon. Now, not so much sympathy for Jon. They knew what they were getting into and sure made some bucks off the show, then when it hit the fan, seems Jon ran off to party. Kate holds the boot straps up, somebody better be a leader in that family. JMO. It is sad especially for the children. So what will Jon become, where can he gain a weekly income? He seems to be a fish out of water while Kate has grabbed the bull by the horn. Is she fighting to maintain the lifestyle they have become accustomed to and how long does she think the money train will last. Seems like the end of the line for both, very soon. JMO

MiamiNice1

10-26-2009, 08:51 PM

MiamiNice1

10-26-2009, 08:57 PM

Hey, at least he knows one nursery rhyme....even if he used it in a very strange way. LOL
I am so disgusted that Jon stood there, looking pathetic, while this man Heller used 8 innocent children - JON'S children - to insult Kate. OMG.

I could hardly believe my ears! Using those poor, hurting CHILDREN to insult! Those just aren't Kate's kids - they are Jon's, too! How dare they?!?!? Nothing is LOW enough for Jon, it seems. This was just despicable. :cursing:

imo

MiamiNice1

10-26-2009, 10:43 PM

Here is the deal.......the jerk said it at least twice. Once to Diane D w/ ET and once as she was standing to the side. He should not be able to get by with that.

If someone said that about the father of my twins, I would smack them right then and there. I sure as heck would not have smirked like Jon did. It is all about the shock value.......They both make me sick!!

I would not be surprised to see Jon out in his yard with a new costly toy soon.........a huge balloon.
LOL about the balloon!

Jon allowing this lawyer to MOCK Kate, and by extension, his children via nursery rhyme, is astounding to me! It was nothing less than disrespectful and insulting to his children. 8 of them!

When doing this kind of thing - bad mouthing the other parent - it's only the kids who get hurt.

imo

daniel green

10-27-2009, 02:08 AM

I am so disgusted that Jon stood there, looking pathetic, while this man Heller used 8 innocent children - JON'S children - to insult Kate. OMG.

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Jon actually smiled and mouthed approval in the vid of him coming in to the ct house--I saw it on ET this evening and it just made me sick.

The concept of having too many children is a horrific thing to say about the children--HIS children--and to not only allow it, but celebrate is as Jon did, is revoltin.

daniel green

10-27-2009, 02:12 AM

In the past few months it seems like Jon's taking care of the children more then Kate. Kate's traveling the country trying to make her "tv career" successful. I doubt he'll lose custody. He needs a new lawyer.

MOO

How do you figure? Half the time when Jon has custody he has the sitters and is out at bars, etc.

Kate has been and is their primary caregiver.

I remember posting a long time ago that B Spears would lose custody and ppl said "oh, no way." Then, she did. I got a chuckle from a poster who PMd me and said "I thought you were crazy but turns out you were right."

I believe Jon will lose shared custody of the children and if he doesn't give up these crazy/pathetic tricks, he might wind up with supervised visitation.

daniel green

10-27-2009, 02:13 AM

Is joint custody really possible in this situation?

JMO

Not for long.

sickntired

10-27-2009, 09:41 AM

In the past few months it seems like Jon's taking care of the children more then Kate. Kate's traveling the country trying to make her "tv career" successful. I doubt he'll lose custody. He needs a new lawyer.

MOO

In the past few months Jon has been seen leaving the family home almost as soon as he arrives to go to pick up packages at UPS, riding his motorcycle (which TLC has since taken away) and having young shooter girls "babysit" the kids. Or according to her, having so so sex with Jon 8-9 times in the home with the kids present. Oh and let's not forget how he refers to his time with the kids as "work".

What a stellar father.

sickntired

10-27-2009, 10:00 AM

Perfectly put. Etched into my brain is Jon looking into the camera and asking where the money from her book went. That just so bothered me.

He does not get a whole lot nor does he seem to have anyone around him with much sense. It seems to me that Kate had no choice but to do the thinking in that family.

I see her out generating an income apart from her kids for their future. That is what she was doing when he was out running around spending the money on young chicks.

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Jon claims that he let Kate lead him all those years and he finally is taking up for himself. Well I think Jon read one too many blogs about how mean Kate was to him and decided to use this as a reason to run around on her. Marriage breaks apart and now he is taking advice from Papa Lohan (former father of the year) and ignorant arse attornies. He's also letting little Jon do the thinking for him as far as the trashing cheap young women go. He's still being led, by scrupulous people, at least Kate made sure the children as well as Jon was being taken care of.

Someone else commented that they feel TLC only showed one side of Kate on the tv show. This makes a lot of sense....TLC probably knew people loved to hate on Kate and played it up for the show. Knew that people would better relate to Jon being the "victim" in that relationship. Sure Kate was a *****...so am I and I only have one kid.

Did anyone watch the show last night. Kate answered questions and her answers made a lot of sense. Yes, she has a helper/nanny...she said they really need two adults around with all those kids. Yes, there is money set aside for the kids to be used for education...as it should be. Yes, her appearance has changed, but the children are getting older and she wants to set a good example for the kids - pride, self-worth...she would be worried if she still wore sweat pants and t-shirts everyday all day. Thankful for the show because it has given her children opportunities to do things that they wouldn't have been able to without doing the show (I always plan my son's activities for his best interest and not partying on a yacht with some young thang).

Mnchkin426

10-27-2009, 11:56 AM

Did anyone watch Jodi and Kevin (along with Gloria Allred) on The Early Show this morning? If so, what were your impressions? I really can't figure them out.

JMO

Mnchkin426

10-27-2009, 12:29 PM

TLC took away the motorcycle? Is that a joke? Jon took care of those kids from the get go and all Kate did was whine in that white plastic chair. She may be sunshine and roses now but she is truely a mean person, in my opinion. She sure pitched herself last night for a TV show. Who in the world would want to hear what Kate or Jon have to say? Its not about them but the Tups, in my opinion only.

Jon is the one who said that TLC took away the motorcycle. As far as caring for the children goes, Kate was the main caregiver for at least the first couple of years of the tups life since Jon was working at that time. Once Jon quit, or whatever, his job, he chose to stay home since he apparently didn't enjoy public speaking. Then he did do the majority of childcare if Kate was away but it was shared otherwise. I also think Kate's organizational abilities made things easier for Jon. However, it seems that Jon tired of his stay-at-home role and that's when he began wandering. Even now, whenever he has custody, his attention span seems short as far as the children are concerned. I don't doubt that he loves them (as does Kate), but sometimes I think he's really more involved with all his toys.

All is JMO.

Mnchkin426

10-27-2009, 12:37 PM

No, I didn't. What did they have to say? Its like when the will is read, the relatives come out of the woodwork.

It was all about establishing laws to "protect" children in filming. Guess there is some group working towards this end that is about to come upon the scene. Think you can probably find the video on CBS.

What confused me was that Jodi and Kevin have stated that the Gosselin children have been harmed by the filming but, when asked about it, said that the kids seemed to be as good as ever. Can they really have it both ways?

JMO

Casecase

10-27-2009, 12:47 PM

Did anyone watch Jodi and Kevin (along with Gloria Allred) on The Early Show this morning? If so, what were your impressions? I really can't figure them out.

JMO

Did I not ask a couple of weeks ago to please be spared from Gloria Allred? And now here she is!!!

IMO

Casecase

10-27-2009, 12:52 PM

It was all about establishing laws to "protect" children in filming. Guess there is some group working towards this end that is about to come upon the scene. Think you can probably find the video on CBS.

What confused me was that Jodi and Kevin have stated that the Gosselin children have been harmed by the filming but, when asked about it, said that the kids seemed to be as good as ever. Can they really have it both ways?

JMO

I don't think they can have it both ways. Did they ever say HOW the children have been harmed by filming? At some point they must not have thought filming was such a bad idea because they were on the show themselves and it was only after they got bounced that they started having this huge ephiphany. Kind of like Jon's huge ephipany about the evils of filming the day after he found out his name was being removed from the show.

IMO

Mnchkin426

10-27-2009, 01:23 PM

I don't think they can have it both ways. Did they ever say HOW the children have been harmed by filming? At some point they must not have thought filming was such a bad idea because they were on the show themselves and it was only after they got bounced that they started having this huge ephiphany. Kind of like Jon's huge ephipany about the evils of filming the day after he found out his name was being removed from the show.

IMO

I don't believe I have ever heard or read any specifics about how the children have been harmed. Does make you wonder, doesn't it?

JMO

daniel green

10-27-2009, 01:40 PM

Did anyone watch Jodi and Kevin (along with Gloria Allred) on The Early Show this morning? If so, what were your impressions? I really can't figure them out.

JMO

OH NO, Not Gloria Allred. :scared:

Was she there on behalf of this Jodi and Kevin????????

daniel green

10-27-2009, 01:43 PM

In the past few months Jon has been seen leaving the family home almost as soon as he arrives to go to pick up packages at UPS, riding his motorcycle (which TLC has since taken away) and having young shooter girls "babysit" the kids. Or according to her, having so so sex with Jon 8-9 times in the home with the kids present. Oh and let's not forget how he refers to his time with the kids as "work".

What a stellar father.

Indeed.

And go smoke outside whilst talking to the Pap--which he did several times, on C and M's birthday while he alleged not to want to miss a minute of the celebration. :rolleyes:

daniel green

10-27-2009, 01:46 PM

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Did anyone watch the show last night. Kate answered questions and her answers made a lot of sense. Yes, she has a helper/nanny...she said they really need two adults around with all those kids. Yes, there is money set aside for the kids to be used for education...as it should be. Yes, her appearance has changed, but the children are getting older and she wants to set a good example for the kids - pride, self-worth...she would be worried if she still wore sweat pants and t-shirts everyday all day. Thankful for the show because it has given her children opportunities to do things that they wouldn't have been able to without doing the show (I always plan my son's activities for his best interest and not partying on a yacht with some young thang).

I thought she was a class act and answered all the questions you see on boards. She is sensible and stable--I loved the show last night.

Mnchkin426

10-27-2009, 01:48 PM

OH NO, Not Gloria Allred. :scared:

Was she there on behalf of this Jodi and Kevin????????

My guess is that, since Jodi and Kevin are Jon's inlaws and seem to be supporting him, they feel joining Ms. Allred's crusade will strengthen the argument that the show has harmed the Gosseline kids.

JMO

daniel green

10-27-2009, 01:48 PM

snipped Jon took care of those kids from the get go and all Kate did was whine in that white plastic chair. .

ABC--that is just not the case. Kate has been the primary caregiver in thos children's lives all along.

daniel green

10-27-2009, 01:49 PM

My guess is that, since Jodi and Kevin are Jon's inlaws and seem to be supporting him, they feel joining Ms. Allred's crusade will strengthen the argument that the show has harmed the Gosseline kids.

JMO

Well, that cements my feeling about their intentions. BLECH. :thumbdown:

daniel green

10-27-2009, 01:50 PM

I don't think they can have it both ways. Did they ever say HOW the children have been harmed by filming? At some point they must not have thought filming was such a bad idea because they were on the show themselves and it was only after they got bounced that they started having this huge ephiphany. Kind of like Jon's huge ephipany about the evils of filming the day after he found out his name was being removed from the show.

IMO

EXACTLY like that epiphany.

Last night on the show they showed clips of the children's interaction with the crew--it was very cute.

Mnchkin426

10-27-2009, 02:24 PM

Well, that cements my feeling about their intentions. BLECH. :thumbdown:

At least they didn't take the opportunity to slam Kate again....well, maybe indirectly.

I'm still wondering whether they actually did see the children when they visited. They talked about the cousins getting together but the only cousin I saw was the littlest one. Interesting that Jodi and Kevin didn't seem to mind that his picture, along with theirs, was on the Internet. All the pictures that I saw of the Gosselin children were of them alone...no cousins.

JMO

Mnchkin426

10-27-2009, 02:26 PM

Do not forget talking on the cell.......who could be that important at a time like that?.......oh yeah, Google Alerts......letting him know his name was mentioned somewhere in the world.

I thought the fact that he was so caught up with ET cameras, that he did not even check the spelling on the cake was classic. Who does that?

All this is going to come back to haunt him. Jon is Jon's worst enemy.....not Kate.

I'm afraid it does look like Jon is his own worst enemy....along with Heller.

JMO

daniel green

10-27-2009, 02:30 PM

On the night that Kate Gosselin appeared on a pre-taped TLC special answering fan questions, the mom of eight was in California participating with other authors in Night at the Village, a function connected with the Maria Shriver-hosted Women's Conference, where she revealed how she's coping now during her messy divorce. . "I wake up every day, get out of bed, do what I do because of my kids," she said on the panel. "There's many more lessons I've learned, many more things I've been through, more unexpected things, but I think at the end of it all, perseverance, determination and tenacity is definitely what will get me there."

Meanwhile, Shriver and Valerie Bertinelli commented on Kate's situation.
"Love your children more than you hate your ex," Valerie said, giving her advice. "She seems to be following it. Her ex does not seem to be following it as much." "I think she's doing the best she can, which is all anyone can ask of ourselves," Maria added. The event, in Long Beach, California, brought together 10,000 attendees in a 160,000 square foot "women's village," where there were book signings and stations touching on topics including cooking and food, health and wellness, live music and dancing, and even shopping. Proceeds from Night at the Village benefit The Women's Conference's WE programs. The main event of the conference takes place Tuesday.

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/10/80172/index.html

daniel green

10-27-2009, 02:33 PM

The reality show mother of eight -- who answered viewer questions in a TLC special Monday night -- will sit down with Natalie Morales of the "Today" show next Monday to do a one-on-one interview that aims to "get the real story," according to TLC.

The network also announced the rest of the November lineup. "Kate: Her Story" airs Monday, Nov. 2 on TLC.

11/9: Jon & Kate Plus Eight: Top Moments

11/16: Jon & Kate Plus Eight: Gymnastics and Baseball
Jon & Kate Plus Eight: Never Before Seen

11/23: Jon & Kate Plus Eight: It's a Crazy Life, But it's Our Life

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/10/80182/index.html

daniel green

10-27-2009, 02:35 PM

At least they didn't take the opportunity to slam Kate again....well, maybe indirectly.

I'm still wondering whether they actually did see the children when they visited. They talked about the cousins getting together but the only cousin I saw was the littlest one. Interesting that Jodi and Kevin didn't seem to mind that his picture, along with theirs, was on the Internet. All the pictures that I saw of the Gosselin children were of them alone...no cousins.

JMO

Ugh. I just read about their appearance with Allred and their new campaign to stop children from being on reality shows.

Right. :rolleyes:

Can't you just hear the cash-register? And the attention? They love to be on tv.

daniel green

10-27-2009, 02:38 PM

To the question of whether there’s money set aside solely for the children, Kate said, “There is a healthy amount of money put away, and it is safe and will not be touched.” (Think she had anyone in mind when she chose those words?) In this context, an old clip was rerun that is now freshly fascinating: Jon and Kate in the good old days, meeting with a financial advisor. He proposes an account that the kids could access “upon completion of college or at age 30.” Kate liked that.

http://watching-tv.ew.com/2009/10/26/jon-and-kate-8-you-ask-kate-answers/

Mnchkin426

10-27-2009, 02:39 PM

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/10/80172/index.html

Sounds like Kate was well-received at the conference. Good for her!

JMO

Justice4all

10-27-2009, 03:05 PM

I'm on my Iphone so if i misspell things i'm sorry. Kate did great. She wasn't a key speaker but she did an iinterview and she rocked it. She's also doing book signing today. She's been very nice to everyone and everyones been very nice to her. My sister said last nigiht Kate called home twice during her book signing to check on the kids. She's really a different woman in real life anda pleasure to be around.

daniel green

10-27-2009, 03:36 PM

daniel green

10-27-2009, 03:43 PM

It was Jon and Kate plus a court date yesterday in Norristown.
Although Kate Gosselin wasn't there, Family Court Judge Arthur R. Tilson ordered the stars of TLC reality show Jon and Kate Plus Eight to continue arbitration on matters related to their bitter divorce.

"For Kate Gosselin to fail to come to court today is an affront to the judicial system and disrespectful to her husband," Heller said. "Jon Gosselin has made every attempt to extend the olive branch. She burns the olive branch and walks away." Momjian responded that Kate Gosselin wasn't required to appear in court because she had satisfied the arbiter's need for financial disclosure.

Offered a chance to address the court in the absence of counsel, Gosselin replied: "I don't know what to say."

He said that he was taking his career plans "day by day," but that they likely would continue to be something in the field of reality TV.

http://www.philly.com/philly/entertainment/20091027_Court_hearing_looks_at_Gosselins__finance s.html

daniel green

10-27-2009, 03:45 PM

http://entertainment.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/10/27/jon-gosselin-hailey-glassman-fight-with-kate-gosselin/

Justice4all

10-27-2009, 03:55 PM

You must hate you missed seeing Kate last night. :sad: She isn't scheduled to be on today at all.

Most of the authors are here today. They have a "book store" set up on the right and they have the authors signing books. I've seen kate twice today and gave her the website so she can buy a save the tata's shirt like i have on. She's been very nice.butyes i wish i could have beenthere last night.

daniel green

10-27-2009, 04:09 PM

ABC--you are a dear friend and one of my very favorite people on the boards!

Mnchkin426

10-27-2009, 04:11 PM

Heller is a total dork! It's lawyers like him that give the profession a bad name! Then there's the rest of Jon's "team." Wow! Can't believe he is so gullible!

JMO

daniel green

10-27-2009, 04:13 PM

Jon Gosselin was in a cheery and talkative mood when cameras caught up with him Tuesday in Reading PA. The dad of 8 had nothing but good things to say about his estranged wife Kate, a marked difference from his courthouse steps appearance with his lawyer Mark Jay Heller just one day previously. When asked if he had heard about Kate’s desire to break in to the movies, Jon said, “Who wouldn’t want to be in a movie? More power to her!” And went on to say “I’ve never wanted anything bad to happen to Kate.”

Jon shared that he even has some movie aspirations of his own, saying he would love to make a Kung Fu movie with Jackie Chan!

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/video-jon-gosselin-%E2%80%9Di-never-wanted-anything-bad-happen-kate%E2%80%9D

daniel green

10-27-2009, 04:18 PM

Monday night’s one hour long Jon and Kate Plus 8 special, where a solo Kate Gosselin sat down and answered viewers’ questions saw another ratings gain for the hit TLC show. The episode garnered 3 million viewers, a huge number for a cable show and another weekly gain as it draws to it’s end.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/jon-and-kate-ratings-continue-upwards-end-draws-near

daniel green

10-27-2009, 04:19 PM

In a document submitted on October 26, Gosselin seeks to renew her license which was set to expire on Halloween. For the $45 fee, her license would be renewed until 2011. While Kate is free to practice nursing if she wants to, before the next renewal in 2011 she will have to complete thirty hours of continuing education credits in compliance with the State’s regulations, a Pennsylvania Heath Department spokesperson told RadarOnline.com.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/exclusive-kate-gosselin-files-renew-nursing-license

Mnchkin426

10-27-2009, 04:27 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/exclusive-kate-gosselin-files-renew-nursing-license

Smart thing to do. Would give her something to fall back on if needed.

JMO

ish

10-27-2009, 04:48 PM

Smart thing to do. Would give her something to fall back on if needed.

JMO

Exactly, no sense in wasting an education you've worked hard for and paid for.

daniel green

10-27-2009, 05:00 PM

You too, Daniel and we have had lots of :laugh: too.
Jon and Jackie Chan? I would pay money to see that. Kevin, the sainted Jodi and the Plastic Surgeon and family are all on Jon's side? And they all knew Kate. What a Soap Opera.

HUGE drama.

I would fly to Las Vegas and go with you, friend, to see Jon in a Jackie Chan movie! :thumbsup:

sickntired

10-28-2009, 09:51 AM

All this is going to come back to haunt him. Jon is Jon's worst enemy.....not Kate.

Agreed, couldn't have said it better myself.

If Jon could take a step back and realize that he is hurting his children more than being filmed for a television show. But he can't, his hatred is blinding him.

birdwatch

10-28-2009, 12:06 PM

Those kids are just fine. The Tups are obviously happy little darlings. With an over 50% divorce rate in the USA, not to much different is going on in this house, except they have the money to stabilize the situation and not be moving those kids around, that is not going on in half the homes in America. Divorce is a sad situation but many are doing it. To single these kids out as emotional wrecks is probably inaccurate, in my opinion. I agree - they are too young to be following the media reports., Its hard - they are missing their dad alot I'm sure - but there is nothing unusual going on as far as they are concerned. But I bet they miss the filmed outings. I think they enjoyed it. I'll bet they enjoyed the community of people on the show and they are missing those friendships.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 01:40 PM

daniel green

10-28-2009, 01:53 PM

On Wednesday's "Ellen DeGeneres Show," Kate Gosselin opens up about feeling under fire, fretting the prospect of dating, and explaining her and Jon's pending divorce to their eight children. Asked why she thinks the public is fascinated with her family, Kate says: "Well, I think certain events take place that make us sitting ducks. That makes us easy targets. Certain ones of us speak a lot; others of us prefer to keep our mouths shut." "So you think that doesn't help if someone is talking about it?" Ellen asks. "I just know that on TV or off TV," Kate says, "and I've been very much targeted, torn apart." Ellen later wonders if the spotlight that the family receives makes Kate worried about the prospect of getting involved in a new relationship. "I am. I'm not thinking about it, but the thought has crossed my mind [that] at some point it's going to be scrutinized," Kate says.

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/10/80216/

So, she taped that show yesterday at 2:30.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 02:05 PM

With Jon's life in a downward spiral, it's shocking that he would sign on for such a sensational project -- especially when he's locked in a nasty divorce with estranged wife Kate, 34, plus involved in a relationship with Hailey Glassman, 23. But Goldstein believes that Jon's quest for fame trumps all. "I think that he wants to remain in the limelight," he tells In Touch. "Notoriety is a component that some humans place a lot of value on." But reps for both Jon and Nadya deny that any show is in the works. Jon may also need money. A divorce court judge ordered him to return $155,000 he drained from a joint bank account he shares with Kate on October 14. With less cash in his pocket, and his bread and butter, Jon & Kate Plus 8, over, Jon is looking desperate and is willing to stoop to just about anything to feed his family. Even Goldstein knows the show is ridiculous -- but hopes it'll get great ratings. "It will be like watching a train wreck," Goldstein adds. "You know you shouldn't look, but you can't turn your head away."

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/28/jon-gosselin-and-octomom_n_336878.html

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 02:21 PM

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/10/80216/

So, she taped that show yesterday at 2:30.

They tape at 5pm.
Kate left the conference about 4pm.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 02:25 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/jon-and-kate-ratings-continue-upwards-end-draws-near

didn't they have something like 9 million viewers before?

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 02:27 PM

"I would love to be in a movie at some point. I'd like to be the voice in a cartoon for my kids ... and I would love for my TV career to be successful," Kate told viewers during the "You Ask, Kate Answers" episode.

Read more: http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2009/10/kate_gosselin_answer_questions_movie_star.php#ixzz 0VFxiS8FB
So let me get this straight, Kate and Jon both want to be movie stars?
IMO they are both nuts.

Lavinya

10-28-2009, 02:32 PM

Jon Gosselin and Octomom to date in a reality show? :scared: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/28/jon-gosselin-and-octomom_n_336878.html

Pardon me while I step through the looking glass...

(Is this a joke that I'm not "getting") :confused:

daniel green

10-28-2009, 02:34 PM

They tape at 5pm.
Kate left the conference about 4pm.

According to the conferences' media contact person,Marissa R. Moss, Kate was not at the conference yesterday.

And one couldn't get from Long Beach to Burbank, during rush hour no less, get to makeup and be ready for taping in an hour.

Lavinya

10-28-2009, 02:44 PM

Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/28/jon-gosselin-and-octomom_n_336878.html

I see you already posted this Daniel. Is this the craziest thing ever!?!?!?

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 02:45 PM

According to the conferences' media contact person,Marissa R. Moss, Kate was not at the conference yesterday.

And one couldn't get from Long Beach to Burbank, during rush hour no less, get to makeup and be ready for taping in an hour.

I have no clue why Marissa would say that. Because kate was even in the audience listening to many of the speakers and was very emotional. She never cried but you can tell her eyes were watery.

and yes you can make it the 30 miles in an hour. She was not the first guest.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 02:48 PM

I see you already posted this Daniel. Is this the craziest thing ever!?!?!?

Oh, yeah, the craziest thing, EVER. Bar none.

At the level of I Love NY or one of those horrible shows. From the producer of Cheaters???????? :w00t:

Hopefully, it's not true and the producer was making it up.

Lavinya

10-28-2009, 02:51 PM

Oh, yeah, the craziest thing, EVER. Bar none.

At the level of I Love NY or one of those horrible shows. From the producer of Cheaters???????? :w00t:

Hopefully, it's not true and the producer was making it up.

Truly, I hope so! Can you imagine those kid's (undeserved) SHAME if he continues like this???? A Cheater's producer and a Jerry Springer producer? Is it possible for 2 producers of such "caliber" to be in the same room without the world ending? :tongueside:

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 02:51 PM

Kate Gosselin is in transition

That same night, she was holed up at Maria Shriver's Women's Conference in Long Beach, signing books for fans as security officials shooed away photographers who dared approach. Although Gosselin's appearance had been touted for months, her name was not listed among the 22 authors on the book-signing schedule given to reporters, and a question-and-answer session with TV reporter Giselle Fernandez lasted less than five minutes.

http://www.azcentral.com/ent/celeb/articles/2009/10/28/20091028gosselin.html

I was not at the book signing monday night but my sister said kate was very nice but there was a lot of rude things being said. IMO that's not the time nor the place for people to act that way.

When i saw her at the conference tuesday people were very nice to her.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 02:54 PM

Kate -- who announced at the California Women's Conference Tuesday she would never wed again -- also told DeGeneres she's not ready to date because her relationships would "be scrutinized."

http://extratv.warnerbros.com/2009/10/kate_gosselin_im_an_easy_targe.php#ixzz0VG4dakNZ

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 02:57 PM

Patrick Swayze's Widow To Join Kate Gosselin, Elizabeth Edwards At Women's Conference

However, the conference won't be without star power - reality mom Kate Gosselin will also be in attendance, as will announced speakers Katie Couric, Geena Davis, Alicia Keys, Ashton Kutcher and Olympic star Dara Torres.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/accesshollywood/091023/entertainment/patrick_swayze_s_widow_to_join_kate_gosselin__eliz abeth_edwards_at_women_s_conference

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 02:58 PM

I have to wonder why Marissa R. Moss would say kate was not there Tuesday...

I saw kate hugging Elizabeth Edwards and both women looked very emotional.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 03:08 PM

Truly, I hope so! Can you imagine those kid's (undeserved) SHAME if he continues like this???? A Cheater's producer and a Jerry Springer producer? Is it possible for 2 producers of such "caliber" to be in the same room without the world ending? :tongueside:

If they throw in a Maurey producer, it migh just be the end of time. :scared:

daniel green

10-28-2009, 03:13 PM

http://www.azcentral.com/ent/celeb/articles/2009/10/28/20091028gosselin.html

When i saw her at the conference tuesday people were very nice to her.

Organizers said Gosselin's blink-and-you'll-miss-her appearance came off as scheduled, even if the timing ended up proving awkward
ibid

She spoke for 5 mins on MONDAY night. She was not at the conference yesterday.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 03:14 PM

snipped
Heads up.......Hailey is headed to LA for the Insider to set the "record straight"........maybe that is the start of the PR for Jon we read about yesterday. Will air Thursday.

.

OMG!!!!!!! :ohmy::blushing::rolleyes:

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 03:18 PM

ibid

She spoke for 5 mins on MONDAY night. She was not at the conference yesterday.

yes i know how long she spoke MONDAY...........

I was there yesterday i saw her at the conference. She was NOT a speaker TUESDAY she was just there listening and being empowered and signing books.

Look i'm not going to argue with you.

Lavinya

10-28-2009, 03:22 PM

If they throw in a Maurey producer, it migh just be the end of time. :scared:

:laugh:

Maybe we can send a producer from PBS or A&E to save the world? :laugh:

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 03:25 PM

LOL.......
Well neither have jobs, yet a ton of mouths to feed......match made in heaven.

Heads up.......Hailey is headed to LA for the Insider to set the "record straight"........maybe that is the start of the PR for Jon we read about yesterday. Will air Thursday.

Looks like they figured out a way to get more money from that show.

Seriously shouldn't Hailey keep her trap shut till after the divorce? Her and Jon both make me ill.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 03:29 PM

:laugh:

Maybe we can send a producer from PBS or A&E to save the world? :laugh:

I don't think they would get within a mile from that hot mess.

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 03:45 PM

daniel green

10-28-2009, 03:54 PM

That sound you hear is the nation's TiVos spontaneously powering down in protest. Earlier this month, Octomom Nadya Suleman activated gag reflexes everywhere by revealing she had a crush on Jon Gosselin, going so far as to dub him "hot." Earlier this morning, In Touch Weekly took that cry for help/ revelation and ran with it, claiming that the publicity-hungry, parentally challenged duo would be coupling up in a new reality dating show. And while we can only pray the report didn't give them any ideas, it also (for now) is not true...depending on who you ask.The supermarket staple quoted the oddly credible former producer of Cheaters, who claimed that the show would follow Gosselin contemplating not only "what hooking up with Octomom could really be like," but what their home life might be like if their respective 14- and 8-strong broods fused, like the Brady Bunch on steroids.

"I heard that Nadya has an insatiable desire to spend time with Jon and to put their families together," producer Bobby Goldstein told the tabloid. "And I had the idea that this could be a very entertaining fiasco." (Apparently Goldstein never heard of one Hailey Glassman.) It may be Halloween week, but no one deserves this type of scare. Luckily, Gosselin's manager has stepped in to put a lid on the madness, debunking the report and once again restoring order to the television universe.

"This is the first I've even heard of it," he said. "This isn't happening." Not that it wasn't at one point in the works, with a rep for the would-be trainwreck boasting of email records to prove it. They claim Gosselin's rep went so far as to negotiate the reality vet's cut of the profits, a possible shoot location and even Hailey's role in the program. "We've been developing this show for months," the rep told E! News. "We've just been talking to the people the last few days. We were tipped off by Octomom's ex-publicist that she had an obsession with Jon and that's when we started developing the show." "After someone brings it to the media, it just freaks people out, but we're not BS-ing. This is going to end up on a network. We're talking to all four of them...Fox, ABC, NBC and CBS." The rep went on to claim that the show, which Gosselin's rep adamantly denies, would start as a one-off special, but has series potential. "We're even talking about scheduling it around the Superbowl. We think it could be that big. We think it could be American Idol-type" big.

They may want to think again.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b151131_jon_octomom_plus_22_realitys_next_hot.html

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 04:07 PM

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b151131_jon_octomom_plus_22_realitys_next_hot.html

Jon IMO really needs to grow up, go to college and get a REAL job.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 04:44 PM

I was wrong. I just talked to my baby sister and she said she saw Kate leaving about 3pm NOT 4pm.

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 04:46 PM

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b151131_jon_octomom_plus_22_realitys_next_hot.html

American Idol big? What are they smoking, and can I have some?

:rolleyes:

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 04:52 PM

daniel green

10-28-2009, 04:58 PM

Jon Gosselin has more relationship drama on his hands. Hailey Glassman says her reality star boyfriend is emotionally abusive – and she's sick of it. "He'll call me and take his anger out on me," Glassman, 22, says in a two-part interview scheduled to air on The Insider beginning Thursday. "He has 'mantrums.' I shouldn't have to put up with being emotionally abused. I cry and say, 'Why are you so mean to me?' " But she may not get a straight answer. "Sometimes he has trouble with the truth," she says, "and he will dance and dance around his lies. He's like Jekyll and Hyde. But I still love him." Ever since she started dating Gosselin, Glassman says her life has changed – and not necessarily for the better. "I met Jon in a bubble," she says. "I'd never seen the show. I had no idea." After their trip to France in July, she says she's faced harsh criticism. "People judge me before they meet me. I get threats everyday. I get called a home wrecker and a fat *****. People will stare or point. It gets worse everyday." She admits their relationship is "not normal," but Glassman says she can't imagine leaving Gosselin. "I don't want to leave him all alone," she says. "At the end of the day, I love him but I dislike him at times. When I love someone I would never hurt them."

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20315943,00.html

daniel green

10-28-2009, 05:05 PM

snipped
*Speaking of Hailey's parents....Jon told the Insider that he was thinking of plastic surgery and would go to her dad for it.......I would love to see how that would turn out!

IMO.......

He just makes me sick, really.

I agree about g/f's not speaking badly about ex-wives/moms of children. No father should allow that to happen.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 05:09 PM

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20315943,00.html

All three of these adults make me sick.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 05:09 PM

snipped

Thank God she wasn't dressed that way for the Women's Conference.

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&ep=3&ebd=2009-10-21&p=Kate%20Gosselin#

Really, to keep stating that she was at the event on the second day and hugging Mrs Edwards, etc, is just silly. She was not there.

Lavinya

10-28-2009, 05:17 PM

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20315943,00.html

Crazy train running right on schedule, I see. :w00t:

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 05:27 PM

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/Search.aspx?contractUrl=2&language=en-US&family=editorial&assetType=image&ep=3&ebd=2009-10-21&p=Kate%20Gosselin#

Really, to keep stating that she was at the event on the second day and hugging Mrs Edwards, etc, is just silly. She was not there.

Those photos are from MONDAY

and were you at the WC Tuesday?

I was there with my mother and sisters helping with Breast Cancer Awareness and i refuse to allow you to call me a liar.

I've already posted links...She was there. NO she did not speak. She was there to LISTEN and she signed some books.

valerie bertinelli was also at the conference TUESDAY listening and she signed a few books.

Most of the authors from MONDAY went to the conference TUESDAY to support the men and women speaking and to be empowered.

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 05:30 PM

Seriously what was kate thinking by wearing a mini skirt that was so short she couldn't move her legs and kept having to pull it down and wearing a shirt that was button way too far down and too tight and her breast were about to pop out? :scared:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyZOw2qQNcE

Thank God she wasn't dressed that way for the Women's Conference.

I think she looked fabulous! Her skirt didn't look that short to me, didn't see her tugging at it and her blouse looked normal to me.

She has great legs, no reason at her age to wear long skirts, IMO.

Maybe I'm a floozy, I would wear that outfit! :biggrin:

Mnchkin426

10-28-2009, 05:46 PM

Mnchkin426

10-28-2009, 05:48 PM

I think she looked fabulous! Her skirt didn't look that short to me, didn't see her tugging at it and her blouse looked normal to me.

She has great legs, no reason at her age to wear long skirts, IMO.

Maybe I'm a floozy, I would wear that outfit! :biggrin:

Wish I COULD wear an outfit like that. Would clear the room if I did. LOL

JMO

daniel green

10-28-2009, 05:51 PM

valerie bertinelli was also at the conference TUESDAY listening and she signed a few books.

snipped.

NOT on Tuesday. For either Bertinelli or Kate.

http://www.californiawomen.org/assets/Press-Room/Press-Kit-2009/TWC09-Book-Signing-Schedule.pdf

daniel green

10-28-2009, 05:54 PM

the Marissa person may have just meant that Kate wasn't part of Tuesday's agenda. Do you have a link as to what Marissa said exactly?

JMO

I tired to PM you the info, but you don't have PM available? Actually, she said that Kate Gosselin was not there yesterday--not just not on the agenda.

Mnchkin426

10-28-2009, 05:55 PM

That's what I suggested....that Kate wasn't on the schedule but was part of the audience on Tuesday. In my mind, that means that she was there.

JMO

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 05:57 PM

Wish I COULD wear an outfit like that. Would clear the room if I did. LOL

JMO

Now that I'm a grandma, I don't wear short skirts any more...just over the knee is as short as they get for me these days.

But Kate looked cute as a bug...she's got the figure for those outfits, my philosophy is "dance while you can."

Mnchkin426

10-28-2009, 05:59 PM

I tired to PM you the info, but you don't have PM available? Actually, she said that Kate Gosselin was not there yesterday--not just not on the agenda.

Guess I haven't set PM up. Did you by any chance ask Merissa specifically whether Kate was there in the audience? Seems to me that I saw some reports (don't remember where) that said she was.

Actually, this is kind of a silly argument. Don't think the world will end either way. LOL

JMO

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 06:00 PM

That's what I suggested....that Kate wasn't on the schedule but was part of the audience on Tuesday. In my mind, that means that she was there.

JMO

That's exactly what happen.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 06:01 PM

Now that I'm a grandma, I don't wear short skirts any more...just over the knee is as short as they get for me these days.

But Kate looked cute as a bug...she's got the figure for those outfits, my philosophy is "dance while you can."

I agree! Loved that color on her, too!

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 06:01 PM

NOT on Tuesday. For either Bertinelli or Kate.

http://www.californiawomen.org/assets/Press-Room/Press-Kit-2009/TWC09-Book-Signing-Schedule.pdf

OMG I give up. You just don't get it.....She wasn't on a schedule for Tuesday...I've said that OVER and OVER.

Come on were you there?

daniel green

10-28-2009, 06:03 PM

That's what I suggested....that Kate wasn't on the schedule but was part of the audience on Tuesday. In my mind, that means that she was there.

JMO

She said she was NOT at the conference on Tues. And given when Ms Edwards spoke and how quickly SHE left the conference stage and venue--it just made no sense to me that Kate would have had the oppotunity to kiss her.

But, it is a silly argument, of course. :blushing: I just hate stuff posted as fact when it's not.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 06:05 PM

Sorry, don't understand how you can be so sure that Kate wasn't sitting in the audience? Maybe we are dealing with semantics here.... the Marissa person may have just meant that Kate wasn't part of Tuesday's agenda. Do you have a link as to what Marissa said exactly?

JMO

Yeah i would love to hear what marissa had to say.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 06:06 PM

She said she was NOT at the conference on Tues. And given when Ms Edwards spoke and how quickly SHE left the conference stage and venue--it just made no sense to me that Kate would have had the oppotunity to kiss her.

But, it is a silly argument, of course. :blushing: I just hate stuff posted as fact when it's not.

You and I have been friends for a long time. I'm sadden you are calling me a liar. and i never said they "kissed" stick to the facts please.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 06:09 PM

Justice--I do consider you a friend, and have loved your posts for a long time.

I am just confused at what seems like incorrect info.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 06:11 PM

Yeah i would love to hear what marissa had to say.

Just sent it to you.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 06:13 PM

snipped. and i never said they "kissed" stick to the facts please.

You are right. My apologies.

You said hugged.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 06:16 PM

Is there trouble in paradise for Jon Gosselin and Hailey Glassman? Looks like there could be if Hailey’s latest comments are anything to go by. Glassman opens up about their relationship woes as she joins The Insider panel Thursday and Friday night. In a shocking revelation Glassman says, "We're at a point now where I don't know why I love him. He gets frustrated and angry and I'm the one who gets the brunt. He'll call me and take his anger out on me. He has 'mantrums.' I shouldn't have to put up with being emotionally abused. I cry and say why are you so mean to me? He takes it out on me. He talks over me so I can't speak. Sometimes he has trouble with the truth and he will dance and dance around his lies. He's like Jekyll and Hyde. But I still love him."

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/hailey-glassman-claims-jon-gosselin-emotionally-abuses-her-takes-his-anger-and

Some PR team Jon has there. :tongueside:

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 06:17 PM

Just sent it to you.

I got it. and she said she was yesterday. but maybe she thought you meant SCHEDULED. Look i have no reason to lie. Demi Moore wasn't on the SCHEDULE but she was there in the audience.

Mnchkin426

10-28-2009, 06:20 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/hailey-glassman-claims-jon-gosselin-emotionally-abuses-her-takes-his-anger-and

some pr team jon has there. :tongueside:

wow!

Jmo

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 06:22 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/hailey-glassman-claims-jon-gosselin-emotionally-abuses-her-takes-his-anger-and

Some PR team Jon has there. :tongueside:

I liked Jon better when he was Kate's "sheep".

Mnchkin426

10-28-2009, 06:29 PM

I wonder if the Glassmans are worried about their daughter's safety?

JMO

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 06:35 PM

I wonder if the Glassmans are worried about their daughter's safety?

JMO

I think I would be if I were them. I've been concerned for a while now about Jon's stability, or lack thereof. He is all over the place, contradicting himself and making impulsive decisions with long-lasting negative effects on those he claims to love the most.

The company he is keeping appear to be giving him bad counsel, and IMO some of his worst behavior seems to stem from his insatiable desire to be famous. At any cost.

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 06:37 PM

WOW!

I had no idea she would admit such things about him. I figured she was buying what he was selling. Sounds like she calls him out on his lies. But she still loves him??? My family would be planning an intervention pronto.

No money, no job, 8 kids, lies, anger issues, steals, cheats, court troubles, cannot spell, best friend is a Lohan, bad attorney.....GAWD, what is there to love?

How many women have came out against him so far.........gosh I have lots track. Kate does not have to say a word or bat an eyelash......Jon dooms himself.

JMO......

Bad speller? LOL, that IS a problem!

IMO, Jon is his own worst enemy...and press agent.

angiemomof4

10-28-2009, 06:41 PM

I wonder if the Glassmans are worried about their daughter's safety?

JMO

I would be if I were them. I'm tellin ya, I think that dude's messed up in drugs. He's behaving like it, imo.

I hope I'm wrong, for the kids sake. That would be HORRIBLE for them, as if they need anything else to deal with...

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 06:42 PM

I wonder if the Glassmans are worried about their daughter's safety?

JMO

If they aren't they should be after reading that article. MOO

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 06:43 PM

After reading that article I just want to say I agree with Daniel I think Jon will lose custody if he doesn't change right now. moo

Lavinya

10-28-2009, 06:57 PM

Lavinya

10-28-2009, 07:00 PM

WOW!

I had no idea she would admit such things about him. I figured she was buying what he was selling. Sounds like she calls him out on his lies. But she still loves him??? My family would be planning an intervention pronto.

No money, no job, 8 kids, lies, anger issues, steals, cheats, court troubles, cannot spell, best friend is a Lohan, bad attorney.....GAWD, what is there to love?

How many women have came out against him so far.........gosh I have lots track. Kate does not have to say a word or bat an eyelash......Jon dooms himself.

JMO......

I remember the days I would have tried to "save" a lost soul. :blink: No mas! No mas! That's foolish young girl territory. I hope Haily's parents can get through to her. This is doomed.

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 07:00 PM

I know it is unreal! I am just not getting how his brain is working. Those OC guys need to ride back into town and sit down with him. I have actually tried to think of someone to help him that he might listen to. I really think the bottle may have something to do with it. Heller and Lohan's influences do not help.

I think his anger is actually the anger he feels towards himself. After he got caught with the first 22 year old, he knew he could not go back to Kate. I think he has tried real hard to make himself "think" he is happy now. Everyday, I think he is actually at his lowest.......that is till the next day.

You never know what you got till it is gone.

JMO.......

Yep, big yellow taxi...

You've hit the nail right on the head, IMO. Jon tries so hard to convince himself that he's happy and the desperation is so clear to a lot of people. I think Kate is coping much better and has a keener sense of not just survival, but of getting up every day determined to make it a good one.

All JMO, of course.

Lavinya

10-28-2009, 07:01 PM

I would be if I were them. I'm tellin ya, I think that dude's messed up in drugs. He's behaving like it, imo.

I hope I'm wrong, for the kids sake. That would be HORRIBLE for them, as if they need anything else to deal with...

Drugs or a burgeoning mental illness, IMO.

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 07:03 PM

No kidding! I wish I had danced harder when I could!

I wonder *if* Kate would be interested in reconciling with Jonboy?

LOL! Some days I danced TOO hard...and I'm glad I did!

Hmmmmmmmm...I am only guessing here, but why would Kate want to reconcile with Jon? She's moved on, IMO, and is ready for the next stage of her life, which for her is probably being a mom and breadwinner to her family. At this point, I don't think a reconciliation would actually be in the children's best interests, but that's just speculation.

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 07:04 PM

Drugs or a burgeoning mental illness, IMO.

My vote is mental illness. I think he's on a slow snap.

JMHO, of course.

baywench

10-28-2009, 07:14 PM

These poor kids never needed a mansion or special trips with special treatment. Just a large house with parents that act like they have some sense would have been good. Jon is learning that a middle-aged crisis passes pretty quickly and Kate hopefully is learning that the world is not going to buy her sympathy act forever. In fact it is time to just let them fade into reality show past. Either one of them on a talk show raises my blood pressure. jmo

Ionmhainn

10-28-2009, 07:18 PM

Mnchkin426

10-28-2009, 07:19 PM

Lavinya

10-28-2009, 07:20 PM

LOL! Some days I danced TOO hard...and I'm glad I did!

Hmmmmmmmm...I am only guessing here, but why would Kate want to reconcile with Jon? She's moved on, IMO, and is ready for the next stage of her life, which for her is probably being a mom and breadwinner to her family. At this point, I don't think a reconciliation would actually be in the children's best interests, but that's just speculation.

Oh heaven's to Betsy, don't get me wrong, I would HATE it if she would want to, I just wonder... I remember that she said something about 1-2 weeks ago, (can't remember what it was, though!) that made me wonder if she wasn't "waiting" for him. I hope to heck she HAS *completely* moved on. I hope Jon hits his bottom before too long, before there is any more damage to his children or him and any innocent bystanders.

angiemomof4

10-28-2009, 07:21 PM

Drugs or a burgeoning mental illness, IMO.

Or possibly both. That would be bad. :sad:

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 07:22 PM

I'm wondering if any of this is true. Might it possibly be a play for sympathy......poor abused Hailey and poor confused Jon?

JMO

Sure won't help him with the divorce or custody of the children. MOO

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 07:24 PM

Call me a floozy cause I have a top just like it. I thought the whole outfit looked great.

Okay, you're a floozy! So I'm in good company. :thumbsup:

Lavinya

10-28-2009, 07:26 PM

Or possibly both. That would be bad. :sad:

Very well could be. *Someting* wrong! :unsure:

baywench

10-28-2009, 07:27 PM

I don't share the popular opinions here, which seem to be that it's always the man's fault when a marriage goes south. While not condoning Jon's behavior, I think the damage was done long beore the girlfriend. Being put down, humiliated, denigrated at every opportunity is hardly relationship-buliding. I think he was probably so used to it that it was just his "norm"...for a time. People like to be with someone who allows them to feel good about themselves. Something Kate forgot to add to her list?

Time to look in the mirror instead of the camera.

I can't imagine why she thinks she has a future in television. As what? I don't find this woman remotely interesting in and of herself. If she is a role model, I'm mystified as to why!
We've all heard that part of being a good father is being good to the children's mother. Surely part of being a good mother is being good to the father also?

Ion what a great post as usual! Good to see you again. You are as always right. Time to look in the mirror instead of the camera is brilliant. This couple are loathsome for so many reasons. I suspect they were always a pretty nasty pair, it probably didn't happen overnight. I just wish that as a nation we would stop paying them for their bad behavior. jmo

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 07:30 PM

Oh heaven's to Betsy, don't get me wrong, I would HATE it if she would want to, I just wonder... I remember that she said something about 1-2 weeks ago, (can't remember what it was, though!) that made me wonder if she wasn't "waiting" for him. I hope to heck she HAS *completely* moved on. I hope Jon hits his bottom before too long, before there is any more damage to his children or him and any innocent bystanders.

I didn't think you were supporting the notion. I remember she said something along those lines, but IIRC it was more in the past tense, like she had been hoping he would get his life together and they could reconcile, but IMO that ship has probably sailed.

Jon hitting bottom scares me.

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 07:34 PM

I don't share the popular opinions here, which seem to be that it's always the man's fault when a marriage goes south. While not condoning Jon's behavior, I think the damage was done long beore the girlfriend. Being put down, humiliated, denigrated at every opportunity is hardly relationship-buliding. I think he was probably so used to it that it was just his "norm"...for a time. People like to be with someone who allows them to feel good about themselves. Something Kate forgot to add to her list?

Time to look in the mirror instead of the camera.

I can't imagine why she thinks she has a future in television. As what? I don't find this woman remotely interesting in and of herself. If she is a role model, I'm mystified as to why!
We've all heard that part of being a good father is being good to the children's mother. Surely part of being a good mother is being good to the father also?

I can only speak for myself, but as a divorced woman, I can tell you that it would be a rare situation for any marriage to fall apart all due to one person. My marriages (both of them) failed, and even given the bad acts of both husbands, there was one common denominator in both of those marriages - me. Not hard to figure out that math...I contributed to the failures.

I think Kate probably does have a future in TV, because there are millions of people who like her, look up to her, and will support her efforts. Obviously you don't see it, and I'm not 100% in her camp, but for me, she's one of those people who makes me smile and laugh, and at the end of the day that means a lot.

All JMO. You make some excellent points.

baywench

10-28-2009, 07:41 PM

I didn't think you were supporting the notion. I remember she said something along those lines, but IIRC it was more in the past tense, like she had been hoping he would get his life together and they could reconcile, but IMO that ship has probably sailed.

Jon hitting bottom scares me.

I remember hearing her say basically she still finds herself hoping the Old Jon would come back. I remember thinking at the time that she would take him back. Yikes, that would kinda be like going back into the lion's den after you wounded the lion. Scares me just thinking about it. :scared:

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 07:45 PM

I remember hearing her say basically she still finds herself hoping the Old Jon would come back. I remember thinking at the time that she would take him back. Yikes, that would kinda be like going back into the lion's den after you wounded the lion. Scares me just thinking about it. :scared:

Yeah, that sounds right. But ITA with you that it would be scary. I'll add that IMO it would be a really bad idea!

Ionmhainn

10-28-2009, 07:45 PM

Ion what a great post as usual! Good to see you again. You are as always right. Time to look in the mirror instead of the camera is brilliant. This couple are loathsome for so many reasons. I suspect they were always a pretty nasty pair, it probably didn't happen overnight. I just wish that as a nation we would stop paying them for their bad behavior. jmo

Good to see you again too.... I only creep out of the games board once in a while. :biggrin:

You might be right in that we are seeing the "real reality" now. But, Kate playing the martyr is hardly new! Zzzzzzz. Imo, when you are a part of several bad relationships, it might be time to examine the common denominator. :wink:

daniel green

10-28-2009, 07:50 PM

WOW!

I had no idea she would admit such things about him. I figured she was buying what he was selling. Sounds like she calls him out on his lies. But she still loves him??? My family would be planning an intervention pronto.

No money, no job, 8 kids, lies, anger issues, steals, cheats, court troubles, cannot spell, best friend is a Lohan, bad attorney.....GAWD, what is there to love?

How many women have came out against him so far.........gosh I have lots track. Kate does not have to say a word or bat an eyelash......Jon dooms himself.

JMO......

Agree to it all. If that was one of my daughters an intervention would have taken place loooooooooong ao!

What a catch Jon is, eh?

And, nope, Kate doesn't need to say a thing. Jon is is his own worst enemy.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 07:54 PM

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I can't imagine why she thinks she has a future in television. As what? snipped

Because she has had her own show on tv for 5 seasons? Because she is on all the talk shows? Because TLC is working on a new show for her? :confused:

Good to see you, Ion!!!!!!!

And Baywench, too!!!!!!!!!

daniel green

10-28-2009, 07:58 PM

I can only speak for myself, but as a divorced woman, I can tell you that it would be a rare situation for any marriage to fall apart all due to one person.

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I think Kate probably does have a future in TV, because there are millions of people who like her, look up to her, and will support her efforts. Obviously you don't see it, and I'm not 100% in her camp, but for me, she's one of those people who makes me smile and laugh, and at the end of the day that means a lot.

All JMO. You make some excellent points.

Right, you are. No breakup is one person's fault, ever.

Kate got over 3 million viewers last night, alone. And that is basically unheard of for a cable show like that.

And, yes, that sure does mean a lot! When she laughs out loud, like today on the Ellen show, it is infectious.

baywench

10-28-2009, 08:01 PM

Agree to it all. If that was one of my daughters an intervention would have taken place loooooooooong ao!

What a catch Jon is, eh?

And, nope, Kate doesn't need to say a thing. Jon is is his own worst enemy.

Now if Jon had no drivers license or car he would fulfill all the requirements for my middle daughter's criteria. No job, no car, no driver license....it's like catnip to her. jmo

Ionmhainn

10-28-2009, 08:04 PM

I can only speak for myself, but as a divorced woman, I can tell you that it would be a rare situation for any marriage to fall apart all due to one person. My marriages (both of them) failed, and even given the bad acts of both husbands, there was one common denominator in both of those marriages - me. Not hard to figure out that math...I contributed to the failures.

I think Kate probably does have a future in TV, because there are millions of people who like her, look up to her, and will support her efforts. Obviously you don't see it, and I'm not 100% in her camp, but for me, she's one of those people who makes me smile and laugh, and at the end of the day that means a lot.

All JMO. You make some excellent points.

I admire your honesty and your obvious willingness to "look inside." Maybe there would be more time for that off camera in this case? (I mentioned "common denominator" in my next post, but was referring to other family relationships.) I'm not really into the blame game, but, like yourself, try to see my part in things. Maybe they will one day, after the "flailing" dies down...

Ionmhainn

10-28-2009, 08:11 PM

Because she has had her own show on tv for 5 seasons? Because she is on all the talk shows? Because TLC is working on a new show for her? :confused:

Good to see you, Ion!!!!!!!

And Baywench, too!!!!!!!!!

Well now...I did say "in and of herself." :biggrin:

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 08:14 PM

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 08:16 PM

Now if Jon had no drivers license or car he would fulfill all the requirements for my middle daughter's criteria. No job, no car, no driver license....it's like catnip to her. jmo

Sounds like me, back in the day! And if you could throw in bad manners and arrogant displays of self-importance, I'd marry them.

:w00t:

angiemomof4

10-28-2009, 08:16 PM

Right, you are. No breakup is one person's fault, ever.
Kate got over 3 million viewers last night, alone. And that is basically unheard of for a cable show like that.

And, yes, that sure does mean a lot! When she laughs out loud, like today on the Ellen show, it is infectious.

I really disagree. My marriage almost did break up after my husband cheated. When he got caught, he split. We eventually worked things out but if we hadn't, it sure as heck wouldn't have been my fault. He made the decision to cheat, not me. And I didn't do anything to deserve it, either.

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 08:16 PM

We need to go out dancing!!.......LOL!!

Cool. Give me a chance to wear my new "over the knee" boots!

daniel green

10-28-2009, 08:17 PM

Now if Jon had no drivers license or car he would fulfill all the requirements for my middle daughter's criteria. No job, no car, no driver license....it's like catnip to her. jmo

Oh, Baywench!!! :tongueside:

daniel green

10-28-2009, 08:18 PM

Didn't her and Jon have 9 million before the break up?

It was the one show, where they announced their break-up. That got an unbelievalbe 10 million viewers--but that has not been the norm.

angiemomof4

10-28-2009, 08:19 PM

You know Lavinya, perhaps in the very first days......but now I do not think there is any way on earth. I have had some men act like real idiots during a break-up and it just made me glad it was over. Kind of a blessing.

Do you all notice how he keeps saying he needs to be able to talk to Kate? How upset he was that she was not in court and the time before he said he could describe everything she was wearing.....head to toe. I think he knows he could never get her back and is freaking out about it. Besides men always want what they cannot have anyway.

I think we are seeing him beat himself up over what he has lost.

That's what really drives a man nuts during a breakup, when he discovers that she's DONE with him and more than ready to move on and not laying around crying over him anymore. Drives men NUTS. :laugh:

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 08:19 PM

Kate Plus Ratings Stunt: What could the world possibly need more of than more Gosselin drama? Nothing! That's what TLC seems to believe, as they are milking the current national obsession with a new one-hour special called Kate: Her Story. NBC's Natalie Morales will sit down with Kate Gosselin for Kate's "most intimate interview to date." It airs Monday, and eight new episodes of Jon & Kate Plus Eight begin Nov. 9.

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b150897_this_just_in_get_intimate_with_kate.html?u tm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 08:21 PM

That's what really drives a man nuts during a breakup, when he discovers that she's DONE with him and more than ready to move on and not laying around crying over him anymore. Drives men NUTS. :laugh:

LOL, you got that right! Works like a charm, every time, even when you don't want it to work! :tonguewag:

baywench

10-28-2009, 08:25 PM

Sounds like me, back in the day! And if you could throw in bad manners and arrogant displays of self-importance, I'd marry them.

:w00t:

That was GREAT. Of course I just spit water all over my keyboard and then had to pretend I was just cleaning in when a co-worker walked by. My employer does not understand my amateur sleuth and gossip needs. jmo

daniel green

10-28-2009, 08:25 PM

The show was one of the highest rated programs on TLC during its run[1] and the fifth season premiere was seen by a record 9.8 million viewers, the most watched show of that evening including broadcast television, twice as many viewers as the show’s previous series high.[2] The family originally appeared in a one-hour special titled Surviving Sextuplets and Twins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_&_Kate_Plus_8

baywench

10-28-2009, 08:26 PM

Oh, Baywench!!! :tongueside:

You know you missed me :smile:

Marcia3

10-28-2009, 08:28 PM

That was GREAT. Of course I just spit water all over my keyboard and then had to pretend I was just cleaning in when a co-worker walked by. My employer does not understand my amateur sleuth and gossip needs. jmo

Some bosses need to get with the program!

daniel green

10-28-2009, 08:29 PM

You know you missed me :smile:

I did, I do!!!!!!!!!

I love discussing and debating with you.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 08:32 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_&_Kate_Plus_8

Sounds like TLC might want to get Jon back quick so the ratings go back up.

moo

daniel green

10-28-2009, 08:34 PM

"I am a mother first. I will always be a mother and I would die for my kids if need be," Gosselin said on Ellen DeGeneres' talk show, in an interview to air Wednesday. "I would never put them in a situation that was dangerous or unsafe for them, and like any mother... my focus is not what trip I can go on or what shows I can do as a result of this thing. This is my job. This is my paycheck and so this is what I do."

http://www.seattlepi.com/tvguide/411621_tvgif28.html

I thought she made a very good point on the Ellen show today when she talked about this and said she had spent 30 weeks on bed rest to make sure the sextuplets were healthy and safe and that she would never do anything to endanger their wellbeing.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 08:38 PM

I think I would be if I were them. I've been concerned for a while now about Jon's stability, or lack thereof. He is all over the place, contradicting himself and making impulsive decisions with long-lasting negative effects on those he claims to love the most.

The company he is keeping appear to be giving him bad counsel, and IMO some of his worst behavior seems to stem from his insatiable desire to be famous. At any cost.

And one has to wonder about that therapist he alleges he goes to. :ohmy:

I think he is headed right toward supervised visitation. I cannot believe that Kate has not asked for it already.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 08:40 PM

http://www.seattlepi.com/tvguide/411621_tvgif28.html

I thought she made a very good point on the Ellen show today when she talked about this and said she had spent 30 weeks on bed rest to make sure the sextuplets were healthy and safe and that she would never do anything to endanger their wellbeing.

How many weeks did the Octomom stay on bed rest?:huh:

and did Ellen have to pay Kate to be on her show?

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 08:42 PM

And one has to wonder about that therapist he alleges he goes to. :ohmy:

I think he is headed right toward supervised visitation. I cannot believe that Kate has not asked for it already.

ITA i'm shocked Kate hasn't put the children into therapy yet. I really think it would help them a LOT.

MOO

daniel green

10-28-2009, 08:45 PM

How many weeks did the Octomom stay on bed rest?:huh:

and did Ellen have to pay Kate to be on her show?

No clue.

Ellen doesn't pay guests.

My daughter was on bed rest from 22 wks on last year, and especially those months in the hospital were trying. I remember watching Kate on her hospital bed, with the huge belly, plastic wrap on it because it burned so much, and admired her strength and patience. The way she turned that hospital bed into a place where Mady and Cara could visit and play and stay for hours with her was great.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 08:49 PM

No clue.

Ellen doesn't pay guests.

My daughter was on bed rest from 22 wks on last year, and especially those months in the hospital were trying. I remember watching Kate on her hospital bed, with the huge belly, plastic wrap on it because it burned so much, and admired her strength and patience. The way she turned that hospital bed into a place where Mady and Cara could visit and play and stay for hours with her was great.

I'm simply saying Kate saying she stayed on bed rest to protect the babies and she would never do anything to hurt their well being is just a load of Bull IMO.

I loved the show for 4 seasons but i think when she first told Jon she wanted a divorce she should have put a stop to the show right then and there. Now when the divorce is over and the children have adjusted and the media circus has calmed down i would love to see Kate plus 8. but right now with the children acting out, not in therapy and not understanding what's going on is not the time for a tv show.

MOO

Casecase

10-28-2009, 08:52 PM

How many weeks did the Octomom stay on bed rest?:huh:

and did Ellen have to pay Kate to be on her show?

According to this article, Nadya Suleman was put on bed rest at 23 weeks weeks and delivered at 30 weeks: http://www.sheknows.com/articles/807781.htm

IMO

Casecase

10-28-2009, 08:56 PM

Now if Jon had no drivers license or car he would fulfill all the requirements for my middle daughter's criteria. No job, no car, no driver license....it's like catnip to her. jmo

Too funny!!! :laugh:

IMO

Casecase

10-28-2009, 09:18 PM

I'm wondering if any of this is true. Might it possibly be a play for sympathy......poor abused Hailey and poor confused Jon?

JMO

If it's a play for sympathy, it's not a good one . . . all I come away with is thinking Hailey needs an intervention and maybe Jon was worse than he appeared to be on the show.

IMO

Casecase

10-28-2009, 09:19 PM

My vote is mental illness. I think he's on a slow snap.

JMHO, of course.

He needs Britney Spears' dad to step in and be his conservator. He did a great job stopping her downward spiral!

IMO

birdwatch

10-28-2009, 10:28 PM

Don't you just know it!! I think Jon is wishing about now he had his old problems back.

First you have to at least pretend you don't care, then you wake up one day and figure out you really don't. I'll bet he is too; especially now that his new girlfriend is telling People magazine that he is abusive to her (but she loves him)..... sigh

daniel green

10-28-2009, 10:36 PM

I'm simply saying Kate saying she stayed on bed rest to protect the babies and she would never do anything to hurt their well being is just a load of Bull IMO.

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She did, in fact, stay on bed rest--most of it in the hospital--for weeks and weeks and weeks to protect those babies.

The rest of your opinion is, well, just that. And we do know how you feel about Kate. However, to say that Kate would do something to hurt her own children is preposterous, really.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 10:42 PM

People would give their front teeth to get on Ellen. You know you have arrived once you get on a show like that. Talk about a ratings booster. Ellen said it best when she said Kate was the most famous mom in the world. I think her show is going to be great. She sure is getting good exposure without having to go the tabloid route.

Yes, I know all about bed rest. I was on it 24 weeks with my twins. It sounds easy but it is real hard. You worry, worry, worry. But you also figure a lot of things out and I know exactly what she means.......even though with 6 it must of been a whole lot harder.

I'm sorry to hear that you were put on bed rest that early. Hope things worked out well for you and the babies.

Those of us who have gone through that, ourselves, or with a loved one, know exactly what she meant when she said it. I was put on semi-bed rest (I went to the doctor's visits and walked in my house) at 8 months but my daughter's long stay in a hosp bed in her house and then at the hospitable seemed interminable--and soooooooooo frightening. Every hour seemed a new twist or worry. Thankfully she made it to 36 weeks and the babies were 5 and 6 lbs and didn't go to the NICU!

As to the Ellen show, you are right. How silly to think that Ellen would have to pay guests. :rolleyes:

And it does sure beat having to be dressed down by Nancy Grace on the Insider (which in our area shows at the wonderful hour of 1:30 am!)

daniel green

10-28-2009, 10:43 PM

I'll bet he is too; especially now that his new girlfriend is telling People magazine that he is abusive to her (but she loves him)..... sigh

Poor Hailey seems very troubled.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 10:45 PM

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I loved the show for 4 seasons but i think when she first told Jon she wanted a divorce she should have put a stop to the show right then and there.

You believe Jon's stories about how Kate wanted a divorce????????:ohmy::blushing::tongueside:

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 10:48 PM

She did, in fact, stay on bed rest--most of it in the hospital--for weeks and weeks and weeks to protect those babies.

The rest of your opinion is, well, just that. And we do know how you feel about Kate. However, to say that Kate would do something to hurt her own children is preposterous, really.

Of course she was on bed rest for the babies...but i think she's failing her children right now by not waiting to stop the filming. Do you feel filming right now during this horrible divorce is best for the children? I sure don't and ever psychologist that has been on Nancy Grace and a ton of other shows agree with me.

I'm not saying Kate or Jon would PHYSICALLY harm their children. Please don't twist my words. Thanks

MOO

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 10:53 PM

You believe Jon's stories about how Kate wanted a divorce????????:ohmy::blushing::tongueside:

Kate didn't want a divorce? I thought in October of last year after they moved things went down hill and Kate said it was over. So are you saying Jon asked for the divorce?

daniel green

10-28-2009, 10:54 PM

While pregnant with the sextuplets, Kate Gosselin was on bed rest from when she was 7 weeks pregnant until the birth of the sextuplets at 30 weeks. So, in total she was on bed rest for 23 weeks.
Kate Gosselin's experiences on bedrest are covered in the book "Multiple Blessings" and various reliable Internet sites. .'

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_was_Kate_Gosselin_on_bed_rest

Those familiar with the TLC program Jon & Kate Plus 8 know how their household runs; now their story comes alive for readers as well. Kate admits, "I was a bit of a control freak," yet also quickly draws on and receives the "peace of God... like a security blanket" through her months in the hospital, Jon's job loss and the impending arrivals. Details such as how they chose names; the sextuplets' birth day of May 10, 2004; and the babies' weeks in the neonatal intensive care unit are fascinating, as are stories of running a household that was perpetually full of volunteers, looked like "baby base camp" and required carefully sequenced nightly bath time.

http://www.amazon.com/Multiple-Bles8ings-Surviving-Thriving-Sextuplets/dp/0310289025

Both of the pregnancies were difficult. "With the [older] girls, I thought I was sick ... [but] that was my best pregnancy!" Gosselin says. "I was extremely sick – major nausea and vomiting until 20-some weeks (hospitalized for dehydration a few times) and was put on bed rest at 28 weeks." But that was truly nothing compared to the difficulty of her pregnancy with the sextuplets. "I was sick at 5 weeks with nausea and vomiting all the time, had hyperstimulated ovaries early on (another side effect of fertility meds), kidney stones, a PICC line (an IV line at home so I could handle my own fluids to avoid dehydration) and overall felt like I was 80 years old," Gosselin says. "Oh, and bed rest started at 7 weeks!"

http://www.iparenting.com/mom/6154.php

Kate details her grueling pregnancy with six babies, including suffering from paracentesis, to complete bed rest early in her first trimester, to a full hospital stay at twenty weeks, on top of attempting to eat a 4,000 calorie diet, passing a kidney stone, enduring daily ultrasounds and the dramatic c-section delivery.

http://lansing.momslikeme.com/members/JournalActions.aspx?g=446310&m=2859637&grpcat=

I sometimes forget that Kate was carrying seven babies, but one died, and she delivered of that baby during her c-section, as well.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 10:54 PM

Okay i just read Jon said he wanted the divorce. Sorry i didn't know that.

http://abcnews.go.com/m/screen?id=7912407&pid=248

Kate Gosselin explained to People magazine in an exclusive interview that it was her husband of 10 years, Jon Gosselin, who asked for the divorce.

"I curled up in a ball and I sobbed. I couldn't breathe; I was hyperventilating. I was scaring people who were calling to check on me because I couldn't even talk," she told the entertainment magazine.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 10:55 PM

I know I have seen the footage. And you are right she had all kinds of activities for the twins when they were there.

I sure as heck did it for my babies. Some mothers ignore it because they are only thinking about themselves. Kate did it for them.

She was as organized and child-oriented during that long, troubled, frightening hospital stay as she has been since her children were born. She turned that room into a haven for Cara and Mady--kudos to her! It showed where her heart was.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 11:00 PM

Of course she was on bed rest for the babies...but i think she's failing her children right now by not waiting to stop the filming. Do you feel filming right now during this horrible divorce is best for the children? snipped

I agree with Kate wholeheartedly that it makes no difference at this point. She cannot control what Jon is going to do or what shows he is going to be on or what is going to come out of his mouth or that of his lawyer/gf's/fleeting flings, etc.

Actual filming of the show--something the children are very comfortable with--won't make a bit of difference. In fact, I think it would be a comfortable routine to continue with people they have come to love.

The drama of the divorce and Jon's carrying-ons is gonna happen one way or another. The filming of the show is productive in that it continues to bring in financial security and good memories/activities for the children.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 11:01 PM

I got it. and she said she was yesterday. but maybe she thought you meant SCHEDULED. Look i have no reason to lie. Demi Moore wasn't on the SCHEDULE but she was there in the audience.

It was very clear. Yesterday=Monday. And it was about ATTENDANCE at the event--not participation.

Interesting that Katy Couric talked about meeting Kate on MONDAY at the event, on Ellen tonight.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:02 PM

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_long_was_Kate_Gosselin_on_bed_rest

http://www.amazon.com/Multiple-Bles8ings-Surviving-Thriving-Sextuplets/dp/0310289025

http://www.iparenting.com/mom/6154.php

http://lansing.momslikeme.com/members/JournalActions.aspx?g=446310&m=2859637&grpcat=

I sometimes forget that Kate was carrying seven babies, but one died, and she delivered of that baby during her c-section, as well.

Thank you for the link. I had no clue one baby died.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:03 PM

daniel green

10-28-2009, 11:07 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaziZHcnMeg

Kate in the hospital--how she fixed up the room of C and M.

angiemomof4

10-28-2009, 11:08 PM

Y'know, for a long time in this whole saga I was on the fence about these two. I never was a "kate hater", but I wasn't exactly a fan of hers either. In a lot of ways, she disgusted me and I thought she could be a very not nice person sometimes. I don't know, maybe that's true, maybe not.

But after the things that have transpired over the last few weeks and things that have been said/done by Jon and those surrounding him, I have really come to feel sorry for Kate. I really do. I can really empathize with her. I know how it feels to have your husband leave you for another woman/women. And whether she may have deserved it or not, it sucks and I know that pain all too well.

No matter how bad of a wife she was or how much she may have nagged or whatever, she doesn't deserve what Jon has put her through in the past months. It's just despicable, imo.

Casecase

10-28-2009, 11:10 PM

Of course she was on bed rest for the babies...but i think she's failing her children right now by not waiting to stop the filming. Do you feel filming right now during this horrible divorce is best for the children? I sure don't and ever psychologist that has been on Nancy Grace and a ton of other shows agree with me.

I'm not saying Kate or Jon would PHYSICALLY harm their children. Please don't twist my words. Thanks

MOO

Everyone says that filming is going to harm the children - but nobody ever says HOW it's going to hurt the children. How is filming them going on happy, positive outings, or just hanging out at home and having fun, going to harm them? If they were having a heavy discussion about the divorce and filming the reactions to that, that would be a different story.

It's been at least two weeks since the filming has stopped and yet we still see both of them out and about everywhere, paparazzi still following them, media still wanting them for interviews. Their source of income and been cut off and the crew that they've gotten to know are no longer around them. So it does lead to the question of what benefit have the kids gained by not being filmed?

IMO

daniel green

10-28-2009, 11:11 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTo9I9E8od4&feature=PlayList&p=084D331E4467A2EF&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=86

Q and A and video of the hospital bed rest

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:11 PM

It was very clear. Yesterday=Monday. And it was about ATTENDANCE at the event--not participation.

Interesting that Katy Couric talked about meeting Kate on MONDAY at the event, on Ellen tonight.

DG, You only asked Is Kate Gosselin at the conference today, please? and she said She was Yesterday.

How in the world do you know if she meant ATTENDANCE? IMO she probably assumed you wanted to listen to Kates interview.

Do you not think kate would enjoy hearing all those lovely women speaking? IF she would not have been there i would have thought even less of her. I really enjoyed meeting her. She took brochures about breast cancer and I saw her over talking to the Barbie people and YES i even seen her hug Elizabeth Edwards.

But heck maybe i was imagining everything and kate just spent all day tuesday shopping and spending money :rolleyes:

daniel green

10-28-2009, 11:12 PM

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So it does lead to the question of what benefit have the kids gained by not being filmed?

IMO

A huge loss in income, is all.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:14 PM

Everyone says that filming is going to harm the children - but nobody ever says HOW it's going to hurt the children. How is filming them going on happy, positive outings, or just hanging out at home and having fun, going to harm them? If they were having a heavy discussion about the divorce and filming the reactions to that, that would be a different story.

It's been at least two weeks since the filming has stopped and yet we still see both of them out and about everywhere, paparazzi still following them, media still wanting them for interviews. Their source of income and been cut off and the crew that they've gotten to know are no longer around them. So it does lead to the question of what benefit have the kids gained by not being filmed?

IMO

IMO if they stopped filming ( and both parents would only worry about taking care of the children and stay out of the limelight ) then the paparazzi would start to leave them alone.

As far as income....Well both parents need to get real jobs. MOO

MsBondJamesBond

10-28-2009, 11:15 PM

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:15 PM

A huge loss in income, is all.

Then mommy and daddy need to get a real job. What ever happen to kate going to get a job and McDonalds?:confused:

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:17 PM

What? She hasn't slapped and abused you yet? :laugh:

She was really nice. and FUNNY.

MsBondJamesBond

10-28-2009, 11:18 PM

She was really nice. and FUNNY.Get out! :w00t:

angiemomof4

10-28-2009, 11:20 PM

Everyone says that filming is going to harm the children - but nobody ever says HOW it's going to hurt the children. How is filming them going on happy, positive outings, or just hanging out at home and having fun, going to harm them? If they were having a heavy discussion about the divorce and filming the reactions to that, that would be a different story.

It's been at least two weeks since the filming has stopped and yet we still see both of them out and about everywhere, paparazzi still following them, media still wanting them for interviews. Their source of income and been cut off and the crew that they've gotten to know are no longer around them. So it does lead to the question of what benefit have the kids gained by not being filmed?

IMO

I agree. If filming these kids for a reality show is harmful, then so is acting/filming movies or tv shows harmful for child actors. Shoot, child actors actually have to put effort/work into that filming.

I don't see any of it as harmful. I think the harm comes in when the parents of these kids fail to keep them grounded and on planet earth instead of letting them get caught up in the whirlwind of fame.

How about the Roloff kids? Why aren't people screaming for filming to stop for that show?

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:22 PM

Get out! :w00t:

I'm serious. She was really nice. and she has the prettiest skin i've ever seen in my life. She was talking to one of the girls about water filters and bottled water and i glanced down and noticed her ring finger, she still has the mark where she wore her wedding ring for 10 years. Kind of made me emotional. I can't imagine what she's going through.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 11:22 PM

Then mommy and daddy need to get a real job. What ever happen to kate going to get a job and McDonalds?:confused:

Why should she get a job at McDonald's when she works on TV? Writes books? Is a motivational speaker?

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:23 PM

I agree. If filming these kids for a reality show is harmful, then so is acting/filming movies or tv shows harmful for child actors. Shoot, child actors actually have to put effort/work into that filming.

I don't see any of it as harmful. I think the harm comes in when the parents of these kids fail to keep them grounded and on planet earth instead of letting them get caught up in the whirlwind of fame.

How about the Roloff kids? Why aren't people screaming for filming to stop for that show?

How old are the Roloff children?:rolleyes: Are their parents going through a very nasty divorce?

daniel green

10-28-2009, 11:23 PM

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How about the Roloff kids? Why aren't people screaming for filming to stop for that show?

No clue.

Or that other family with the 20 kids or however many there are.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:24 PM

Why should she get a job at McDonald's when she works on TV? Writes books? Is a motivational speaker?

OMG i was joking.
Yes i know she writes books. I have both of them. and i hate to admit IF she ever has her cookbook published i'll buy that one too.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:25 PM

No clue.

Or that other family with the 20 kids or however many there are.

The Duggars.........

and again,...are they going through a nasty divorce?

Casecase

10-28-2009, 11:26 PM

IMO if they stopped filming ( and both parents would only worry about taking care of the children and stay out of the limelight ) then the paparazzi would start to leave them alone.

As far as income....Well both parents need to get real jobs. MOO

But they did stop filming and have stopped for more than two weeks. Both parents have indicated that they want TV careers and there is nothing wrong with that. A real job doesn't have to be a 9-5, typical career. They certainly wouldn't be the first people who have used a reality show to springboard to another TV gig (one of the most famous people I can think of that did that is Elizabeth Hasselback).

IMO

Casecase

10-28-2009, 11:29 PM

The Duggars.........

and again,...are they going through a nasty divorce?

Again, I have to ask, if the filming that is done is of positive experiences, what does going through a nasty divorce have to do with it? That divorce is going to be nasty with or without cameras.

IMO

Casecase

10-28-2009, 11:29 PM

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:32 PM

But they did stop filming and have stopped for more than two weeks. Both parents have indicated that they want TV careers and there is nothing wrong with that. A real job doesn't have to be a 9-5, typical career. They certainly wouldn't be the first people who have used a reality show to springboard to another TV gig (one of the most famous people I can think of that did that is Elizabeth Hasselback).

IMO

Is Elizabeth Hasselback going through a nasty divorce?

and IMO if both parents should put aside the TV appearances for a little while and finalize their divorce and get some therapy for the children and let things calm down and then they can become movie stars.

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:35 PM

Again, I have to ask, if the filming that is done is of positive experiences, what does going through a nasty divorce have to do with it? That divorce is going to be nasty with or without cameras.

IMO

IMO right now the children are acting out and need therapy and need for their parents to grow up.

angiemomof4

10-28-2009, 11:43 PM

How old are the Roloff children?:rolleyes: Are their parents going through a very nasty divorce?

People were screaming for the show to stop long before there was any hint of a divorce.

I for one think that now was a very, very bad time to halt filming. I think all it did was further traumitize the kids while this divorce is going on. There should be as little disruption to their routine right now as possible....unless one of the kids request for the filming to stop. Just my opinion....

Casecase

10-28-2009, 11:44 PM

IMO right now the children are acting out and need therapy and need for their parents to grow up.

The kids might be acting out because of the divorce - they might be acting out because they're 5. They might need therapy (kind of hard for any of us to say) and obviously the parents need to grow up. None of that is related to filming their show and all of it would have applied if the show had stopped filming 6 months ago.

IMO

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:47 PM

People were screaming for the show to stop long before there was any hint of a divorce.

I for one think that now was a very, very bad time to halt filming. I think all it did was further traumitize the kids while this divorce is going on. There should be as little disruption to their routine right now as possible....unless one of the kids request for the filming to stop. Just my opinion....

ITA the timing of them stopping the filming was Horrible. Jon was being childish and only thinking about JON. That's why i said the filming should have stopped when they first even started talking about separating instead of letting all this play out on screen.

moo

Justice4all

10-28-2009, 11:48 PM

The kids might be acting out because of the divorce - they might be acting out because they're 5. They might need therapy (kind of hard for any of us to say) and obviously the parents need to grow up. None of that is related to filming their show and all of it would have applied if the show had stopped filming 6 months ago.

IMO

IMO it should have stopped 6-12 months ago.

Casecase

10-28-2009, 11:49 PM

Is Elizabeth Hasselback going through a nasty divorce?

and IMO if both parents should put aside the TV appearances for a little while and finalize their divorce and get some therapy for the children and let things calm down and then they can become movie stars.

My point about Elizabeth H. was that she used the reality TV gig as a stepping stone to a bigger TV gig, and that it can be a "real job" (divorce or lack thereof had nothing to do with it). If they like being on TV or have the opportunity to do a movie or whatever, more power to them! Nothing says they have to go back to nursing or IT . . . and TV or a movie would pay a heck of a lot better.

But now that I'm thinking about it, with all of the TV and movie stars who get divorced - and some of it is pretty nasty - should they all shelve their careers until the divorce is final?

IMO

IMO

daniel green

10-28-2009, 11:49 PM

Again, I have to ask, if the filming that is done is of positive experiences, what does going through a nasty divorce have to do with it? That divorce is going to be nasty with or without cameras.

IMO

We have seen the proof. It's been nasty and the cameras stopped weeks ago. Well, the TLC cameras, not the ones Jon has come over to film.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 11:50 PM

angiemomof4

10-28-2009, 11:56 PM

ITA the timing of them stopping the filming was Horrible. Jon was being childish and only thinking about JON. That's why i said the filming should have stopped when they first even started talking about separating instead of letting all this play out on screen.

moo

I agree, if it were my kids, I definitely would have stopped filming as soon as the marriage was on the rocks....for the best interest of everybody. But then again, I don't fault Jon or Kate for continuing. They are the parents and that's their call to make, imo.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 11:56 PM

And all reality shows are not created equally. Their show was cute and made you happy to watch. I felt like I learned stuff and was a better mother because of it. It made me think if she could do all that, then I could do it all for my twins. I loved the cooking she would do......all organic and healthy. She even made up plenty of frozen meals to see the family through while she had her tummy tuck. That is a lot of meals! And her coupon system and ways to save money was so cool. The kids loved to watch their own show also.

She never took the easy route......she worked it. Is it so bad for kids to be in a "G" rated learning show? If anything I think it is good.

I loved it--for all the reasons you posted! And I was a better mom and grand-mom for it. It made a lot of parents think about putting nutrisious meals on the table for their little ones and to look to organic and less sugar--no fast foods.

I couldn't believe how many meals she cooked for her few days away for her tummy tuck!

As far as the children--how lovely for them to have had so many wonderful experiences and be able to see so many things they would have never been able to see/do. Their trip to the outer banks, the lighthouse and the wild horses prompted our family to do the same--and it was magical.

daniel green

10-28-2009, 11:57 PM

I agree, if it were my kids, I definitely would have stopped filming as soon as the marriage was on the rocks....for the best interest of everybody. snipped.

Not being snarky here--this is an earnest question. What difference would it have made for the children?

angiemomof4

10-28-2009, 11:58 PM

Good point and what about shows like Denise Richards.......one scene she has her little girls in the picture, the next she is having a sex toy party with her friends. I never watched another one of her shows after that. Or the ones where every other word is the F word. There is all kinds w/ kids, no one says a word. Those head shrinks that come on most of those shows is paid to go one way or the other. I doubt they ever watched a full show.

Can't say I ever saw Denise Richards show. :D I take it I haven't missed much???

Justice4all

10-29-2009, 12:03 AM

We have seen the proof. It's been nasty and the cameras stopped weeks ago. Well, the TLC cameras, not the ones Jon has come over to film.

I wish kate would take Jon to court and make him stop doing that. MOO

Justice4all

10-29-2009, 12:06 AM

My point about Elizabeth H. was that she used the reality TV gig as a stepping stone to a bigger TV gig, and that it can be a "real job" (divorce or lack thereof had nothing to do with it). If they like being on TV or have the opportunity to do a movie or whatever, more power to them! Nothing says they have to go back to nursing or IT . . . and TV or a movie would pay a heck of a lot better.

But now that I'm thinking about it, with all of the TV and movie stars who get divorced - and some of it is pretty nasty - should they all shelve their careers until the divorce is final?

IMO

IMO
No they shouldn't shelve their careers but they should shelve their childrens careers during the divorce. MOO

angiemomof4

10-29-2009, 12:07 AM

Not being snarky here--this is an earnest question. What difference would it have made for the children?

Well, I don't know....I think it would depend on how the children felt about it. If it was really, really important to them to continue filming, I'd let them do it.

I think in this case, the better thing to do would have been to take a longer break than they did. Put off filming until the divorce is over or things settle down. That gives the kids time to process the changes in their lives, but knowing at the same time that they can look forward to filming activities to start again...return to previous routines, etc. But instead they have to deal with a double loss all at the same time. They're parents split up AND the show that they enjoy doing is over for good. And I think it's obvious that the kids enjoy doing the show.

daniel green

10-29-2009, 12:08 AM

ITA!!
That is the worse thing to do to the kids. Really bad move. And I thought it would be good for all the other kids or even parents who watch the show to see life goes on, even during a divorce. That camera crew was like family. Snap and they were all gone. That it just not right to do to little kids at any time.

Especially since one in two marriages ends in divorce.

daniel green

10-29-2009, 12:10 AM

snipped But instead they have to deal with a double loss all at the same time. They're parents split up AND the show that they enjoy doing is over for good. And I think it's obvious that the kids enjoy doing the show.

Yes, I think it's obvious, too. And that it's sad for the kids, and a loss.

Leanne Weich

10-29-2009, 12:58 AM

I just wanted to say also I always liked Jon too. I thought they made a pretty good team. When the tabloid stuff came out about his affair, I did not want to believe it. Once I did, I was real sad. Kate seems still like Kate to me. Jon seems like someone totally different.

That's exactly how I felt too. Admittedly, we're lagging way behind in what we're seeing here in Australia. Only recently saw their Hawaii wedding.

As far as continuing with the filming - realistically, I doubt Jon and Kate could earn enough in their previous professions to keep the kids in a comfortable lifestyle and, let's face it, with 8 kids you can't really move to a much smaller home (maybe acreage wise you can but you still need a big house).

Marcia3

10-29-2009, 10:32 AM

Well, I don't know....I think it would depend on how the children felt about it. If it was really, really important to them to continue filming, I'd let them do it.

I think in this case, the better thing to do would have been to take a longer break than they did. Put off filming until the divorce is over or things settle down. That gives the kids time to process the changes in their lives, but knowing at the same time that they can look forward to filming activities to start again...return to previous routines, etc. But instead they have to deal with a double loss all at the same time. They're parents split up AND the show that they enjoy doing is over for good. And I think it's obvious that the kids enjoy doing the show.

My only objection to this show is that they filmed the tups during their potty training days. I thought that went way over the line. Those kids will have to live their lives knowing that they can be seen on You-Tube forever sitting on their potty chairs...pooping and whatever. If that had not been done, I would not have had any objections to the show.

Now that the kids are older, I see more opportunities for learning for parents of all size families. And to see a single mom in charge of 8 kids could be a real chance to inspire single moms watching the show. Yes, I know Kate has help and she wouldn't be totally on her own, but ultimately she is the Mom and the person the kids will turn to and run to (as they do now).

All JMHO.

Mnchkin426

10-29-2009, 10:59 AM

IIRC the paps really weren't interested in the Gosselins until Jon was discovered playing around.....nothing like illicit behavior to bring them into the picture. Seems like this is what attracts these ghouls. I'm not sure that an ordinary (not that any divorce is really ordinary) irreconcilable differences divorce would have interested them. Since mainly Jon continues to generate such gossip, I would imagine that the paps won't go away until his activities start to bore people. Sadly to say, the finalization of the divorce may not change things.

JMO

angiemomof4

10-29-2009, 11:09 AM

My only objection to this show is that they filmed the tups during their potty training days. I thought that went way over the line. Those kids will have to live their lives knowing that they can be seen on You-Tube forever sitting on their potty chairs...pooping and whatever. If that had not been done, I would not have had any objections to the show.

Now that the kids are older, I see more opportunities for learning for parents of all size families. And to see a single mom in charge of 8 kids could be a real chance to inspire single moms watching the show. Yes, I know Kate has help and she wouldn't be totally on her own, but ultimately she is the Mom and the person the kids will turn to and run to (as they do now).

All JMHO.

I agree about the potty training. That definitely shouldn't have been filmed.

Casecase

10-29-2009, 11:12 AM

My only objection to this show is that they filmed the tups during their potty training days. I thought that went way over the line. Those kids will have to live their lives knowing that they can be seen on You-Tube forever sitting on their potty chairs...pooping and whatever. If that had not been done, I would not have had any objections to the show.

Now that the kids are older, I see more opportunities for learning for parents of all size families. And to see a single mom in charge of 8 kids could be a real chance to inspire single moms watching the show. Yes, I know Kate has help and she wouldn't be totally on her own, but ultimately she is the Mom and the person the kids will turn to and run to (as they do now).

All JMHO.

Yeah, I probably wouldn't have been on board with filiming the potty training either . . . but then look at shows like America's Funniest Home Videos where you've got kids on the potty, in the bathtub, people of all ages de-pantsing themselves.

IMO

birdwatch

10-29-2009, 11:28 AM

People were screaming for the show to stop long before there was any hint of a divorce.

I for one think that now was a very, very bad time to halt filming. I think all it did was further traumitize the kids while this divorce is going on. There should be as little disruption to their routine right now as possible....unless one of the kids request for the filming to stop. Just my opinion.... I agree - the kids have lost people they thought were their friends (the production crew): I'm sure they don't understand why these people they liked have been suddenly removed from their lives. It must feel like another abandonment. And then there is the divorce and Dad mostly gone and Mom off and busy. No wonder they are acting out.

Marcia3

10-29-2009, 11:28 AM

Yeah, I probably wouldn't have been on board with filiming the potty training either . . . but then look at shows like America's Funniest Home Videos where you've got kids on the potty, in the bathtub, people of all ages de-pantsing themselves.

IMO

If you're an adult and agree to have your fanny plastered on the TV/movie screen, then fine. But these kids didn't agree to it and IMO it showed a complete lack of sensitivity towards them to show them going through potty training. I feel the same way about any TV program that crosses that line...kids shouldn't be exploited, period.

All JMHO.

Casecase

10-29-2009, 12:48 PM

If you're an adult and agree to have your fanny plastered on the TV/movie screen, then fine. But these kids didn't agree to it and IMO it showed a complete lack of sensitivity towards them to show them going through potty training. I feel the same way about any TV program that crosses that line...kids shouldn't be exploited, period.

All JMHO.

I'm sure none of the kiddies on AFV agree to have their embarassing or sensitive things shown on TV - yet they are. I'm in agreement with you that there is a line that shouldn't be crossed. It's just an interesting observation . . . the public says that these types of sensitive things shouldn't be shown for the Gosselin kids, but yet the same public would watch something equally embarassing to a small child on a comedy show, laugh about it, and never give it a second thought.

IMO

Marcia3

10-29-2009, 01:21 PM

I'm sure none of the kiddies on AFV agree to have their embarassing or sensitive things shown on TV - yet they are. I'm in agreement with you that there is a line that shouldn't be crossed. It's just an interesting observation . . . the public says that these types of sensitive things shouldn't be shown for the Gosselin kids, but yet the same public would watch something equally embarassing to a small child on a comedy show, laugh about it, and never give it a second thought.

IMO

I don't think it's funny, ever. Not on J&K+8 and not on any program anywhere. It crosses a line, IMO.

But I know there are people who object to the tups toilet training being on TV and still laugh their butts off when AFV shows a small child falling asleep on the potty chair or some such thing. I'm with you - if it's wrong for the Gosselin kids, then it's wrong for other kids as well.

Otherwise, I have enjoyed the show and hope it will continue in some form or another, without Jon.

Mnchkin426

10-29-2009, 01:36 PM

Marcia3

10-29-2009, 01:40 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/hailey-glassman-claims-jon-gosselin-emotionally-abuses-her-takes-his-anger-and

Anyone planning to watch this tonight and tomorrow night on The Insider? Read that Jon is in LA now, too. Wonder what is going on?

JMO

I won't watch it. I've never watched the Insider and I don't plan to start with this episode! :biggrin:

Hailey Glassman is hilarious...she says she just wants her "name to be forgotten." Then whatcha doing on TV???

daniel green

10-29-2009, 01:43 PM

Yeah, I probably wouldn't have been on board with filiming the potty training either . . .

IMO

I thought the shows about potty training were great. Informative, too. I bought that same kind of potty for out grand-baby, because they are so practical and you can take in the car, etc.

It wasn't making fun of the kids--it was a good view on potty training. Which is bad enough with one child, let alone 6!

daniel green

10-29-2009, 01:47 PM

I know I know. I loved all of it. I think one time I saw them have pizza and that was IIRC when they moved. Other than that and when Jon made his Korean dinner.......Kate always cooked. I felt like I was back home with my mom in the kitchen as a little girl.

I really felt like crying when the plug got pulled.........I could only imagine how those little kids felt. Most of all.... I LOVE THOSE KIDS. I know them all and their personalities. I really enjoyed seeing them growing up.

Jon should really be ashamed.......and Jodi and whats his name also. Nothing but jeousy........all 3 of them. IMO......

I agree.

I loved that the kids never got candy and loved flying because they would get to chew gum! :laugh: I thought the cereal mix she made for the kids' "dessert" was funny--because it's one we've made for years as well. There are so many episodes I'll remember, with touching moments, funny moments, learning moments. I love those little kids, too.

daniel green

10-29-2009, 01:49 PM

IIRC the paps really weren't interested in the Gosselins until Jon was discovered playing around.....nothing like illicit behavior to bring them into the picture. snipped

Yep. That's what brought them around. And then Jon fell in love with being in the limelight--even if it's bad limelight.

And, no, it hasn't changed and won't change because the children are not being filmed by TLC.

angiemomof4

10-29-2009, 01:54 PM

I won't watch it. I've never watched the Insider and I don't plan to start with this episode! :biggrin:

Hailey Glassman is hilarious...she says she just wants her "name to be forgotten." Then whatcha doing on TV???

Well, I guess she and Jon are a great match. Didn't he say something similiar on the show last season? :rolleyes:

daniel green

10-29-2009, 01:56 PM

Oh, forpetesakes. How disgusting. :cursing::cursing::cursing:

Now he has hooked up with the man who just wrote that book about Michael Jackson's tapes, Shmuley Boteach. More dramarama.

"I am well aware that my behavior over the past few months has not always reflected my personal and religious values. I further accept that I have allowed myself to become somewhat severed from my own moral anchor and be carried away by the challenges of fame. It is for this reason that I have endeavored of late to reconnect with my deeper, more spiritual, more altruistic self with regular study sessions and counseling with Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, whose morality-centered-and-values-based advice, coupled with his profound commitment to fatherhood and family, I deeply respect..."I have therefore agreed to a forum at New York’s West Side Synagogue this Sunday where I intend to publicly apologize in a sacred space to those whom I have hurt."I wish for the public to know my regret at having, at times, betrayed the moral principles that have always guided me. "This forum will also allow me to illustrate the further steps I am determined to take to regain the trust and confidence of loved ones as well as the public who have watched me over the years, together with Kate, raise our eight beautiful children. I could tell you that these steps are absolutely sincere and not intended for public consumption.

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news/jon-gosselin-consulting-with-rabbi-to-find-more-spiritual-self-20092910?utm_source=dailynewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter

This is just beyond offensive. It truly is. Everything in our Jewish tradition and laws goes AGAINST any public demonstrations of any kind. To use a synagoge for this media event is beyond disgusting.

Furthermore, converting to Judaism isn't done by just saying it, or willing it so. It takes years of classes and the approval of THREE rabbis, after tests. And then after a ceremony.

daniel green

10-29-2009, 02:03 PM

While each person's journey towards Judaism is organic and individual, there are some basic requirements which I will outline below. These requirements attempt to ensure that someone who eventually chooses Judaism can make an informed, healthy, and whole commitment to Jewish life and the Jewish people. To this end, the prospective Jew must have mastered knowledge of basic Jewish ideas and practices, participated in some central Jewish experiences and explored his/her attitudes, beliefs and feelings as they relate to Judaism.

More specifically, the following list outlines the required tasks:
http://www.convertingtojudaism.com/Requirements.htm

and

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/judaism/beliefs/conversion.shtml

It is truly offensive to me to have someone make a media circus and Pap photo op about something so sacred.

daniel green

10-29-2009, 02:05 PM

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/hailey-glassman-claims-jon-gosselin-emotionally-abuses-her-takes-his-anger-and

daniel green

10-29-2009, 02:09 PM

Jon, who just days ago stood on the steps of the Montgomery County, PA courthouse with his lawyer Mark Heller and attacked wife Kate while cameras rolled, says he is now in counseling to reconnect with his spirituality. He also pledges to make “things right” with Kate and their eight children.He started his mea culpa by denying rumors he was going to appear in a reality show with Octo-Mom Nadya Suleman.

"I am troubled to learn that the media has accepted as true the scurrilous rumor that I would appear in a reality television program with Nadya Suleman. This is utterly false. I do however accept that some of my previous actions have in some way lent credence to such outrageous stories," Jon said in a statement.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/10/oy-jon-gosselin-admits-he%E2%80%99s-mess-turns-rabbi-help