Bobby, Cheryl Lynn Jameson,dtr.Madison, 5, truck found 10/17, Eufula, OK

[febreze]

not sure where to post this question but, yesterday as i passed by the telivision there was something about a husband wife and small child missing after going searching for land to buy in the country don't know the state_, their dog was found in their truck starving, personal items were also found in the truck money ect: i didn't see all the report so can't offer more details but, did anyone else see this

[MissouriGMom]

not sure where to post this question but, yesterday as i passed by the telivision there was something about a husband wife and small child missing after going searching for land to buy in the country don't know the state_, their dog was found in their truck starving, personal items were also found in the truck money ect: i didn't see all the report so can't offer more details but, did anyone else see this

Is this the family?

http://www.koco.com/news/21397440/detail.html#


OKLAHOMA CITY -- The FBI and state agents are looking for clues in the disappearance of an Oklahoma family that's been missing for two weeks.

Bobby and Sherrilynn Jameson were last seen in Red Oak, looking to buy a 40-acre tract of land with their young daughter, Madyson.

[n/t]

This case is so bizarre.

The truck was locked and no keys in it. They found a lot of money, several coats, cell phones, maps and a GPS system inside the abandoned truck. What could have happened to them? Did they go for a walk and got lost? But why not take your cell phone?

FBI Joins Search For Missing Family
http://www.koco.com/news/21397440/detail.html#

[n/t]

Oh dear ...this link says a little dog was found inside the truck thankfully still alive.

Mystery deepens as search for family expands
http://www.mcalesternews.com/homepage/local_story_295111743.html?keyword=leadpicturestor y

Photo

http://www.mcalesternews.com/homepage/images_sizedimage_295111837/resources_photoview

[MissouriGMom]

This case is so bizarre.

The truck was locked and no keys in it. They found a lot of money, several coats, cell phones, maps and a GPS system inside the abandoned truck. What could have happened to them? Did they go for a walk and got lost? But why not take your cell phone?

FBI Joins Search For Missing Family
http://www.koco.com/news/21397440/detail.html#

Bizarre is right! They were missing since Oct.7 and nobody reported it until they found the truck on the 17th.

http://www.mcalesternews.com/local/local_story_297142753.html
The family is now believed to have been missing since Oct. 7, although the Latimer County Sheriff’s Department did not learn they were missing until about 10 days later, according to Sgt. Chuck Wells.

“It was reported to us on Saturday, Oct. 17,” Wells said. “Some people called and said a vehicle had been sitting by the side of the road for some time with an animal in it.

[n/t]

Considering the area is remote, perhaps the cellphones didn't work? Maybe one of the family members was ill and they went to get help? IDK, trying to think of what may have happened.

They don't mention if the vehicle still had gas in it or if anything was wrong with it.

[MissouriGMom]

Considering the area is remote, perhaps the cellphones didn't work? Maybe one of the family members was ill and they went to get help? IDK, trying to think of what may have happened.

They don't mention if the vehicle still had gas in it or if anything was wrong with it.


Did these people not work or did the child not go to school? Why did nobody realize they were missing? No friends or family?

[n/t]

Bizarre is right! They were missing since Oct.7 and nobody reported it until they found the truck on the 17th.

http://www.mcalesternews.com/local/local_story_297142753.html
The family is now believed to have been missing since Oct. 7, although the Latimer County Sheriff’s Department did not learn they were missing until about 10 days later, according to Sgt. Chuck Wells.

“It was reported to us on Saturday, Oct. 17,” Wells said. “Some people called and said a vehicle had been sitting by the side of the road for some time with an animal in it.

Hi MissouriGmom

I was reading this article. Very suspicious that the caller (s)
said a vehicle had been sitting by the side of the road for some time with an animal in it, they didn't give any indication it had been there for more than few hours and the the caller phoned back to say it had been there for a couple of days?? :confused:


http://www.mcalesternews.com/homepage/local_story_295111743.html?keyword=leadpicturestor y

[n/t]

Did these people not work or did the child not go to school? Why did nobody realize they were missing? No friends or family?

Good question. This article says they talked to family members and friends on Friday. Maybe they told their family members that they were going on holiday? :shrug: Maybe the family members are the ones who gave LE information about the Jameson's looking for land to buy?

http://www.mcalesternews.com/local/local_story_297142753.html

[n/t]

One of the articles mentions the father/husband had back surgery recently. Maybe he didn't feel well and they went to get help?

I hope they're found soon.:sad:

[MissouriGMom]

Hi MissouriGmom

I was reading this article. Very suspicious that the caller (s)
said a vehicle had been sitting by the side of the road for some time with an animal in it, they didn't give any indication it had been there for more than few hours and the the caller phoned back to say it had been there for a couple of days?? :confused:


http://www.mcalesternews.com/homepage/local_story_295111743.html?keyword=leadpicturestor y


GM n/t

I grew up only about 50 miles from this area. The closest town to where the truck was found is Red Oak which only has about 600 people.
I just don't understand why people were not worried about this family much sooner.

[MrsBeesley]

The man looks kind of mean. :sad:

[n/t]

GM n/t

I grew up only about 50 miles from this area. The closest town to where the truck was found is Red Oak which only has about 600 people.
I just don't understand why people were not worried about this family much sooner.

How far is the closest town by walking? I just don't understand why they would've left the vehicle behind and the only thing that makes sense to me (right now) is perhaps the husband was ill. He may have been the driver? Maybe the wife didn't drive? I'm guessing if it's an isolated remote area, the cellphones probably didn't work so they couldn't call for help?

So many questions.

[n/t]

Deputies Investigate Disappearance of Eufaula Family
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/1009/670854.html#commentsform

[MissouriGMom]

How far is the closest town by walking? I just don't understand why they would've left the vehicle behind and the only thing that makes sense to me (right now) is perhaps the husband was ill. He may have been the driver? Maybe the wife didn't drive? I'm guessing if it's an isolated remote area, the cellphones probably didn't work so they couldn't call for help?

So many questions.


Red Oak would be the cloest town, walking or driving. I haven't found just how far from town the truck was. I sure you are probably right about no cellphone service.

[MissouriGMom]

I just found this on a local area blog. I won't post what was said, just the link.

http://www.mccooler.net/cgi-bin/blog

Read the comment after the article.

I hope this is okay, coldwater. Don't want to get in trouble!

http://www.mccooler.net/cgi-bin/mcblogscgi?Layout=

[n/t]

Oh dear..that's very disturbing, if true. Maybe that's why one of the articles mentioned they brought in 4 cadaver dogs. When I first read the article, I thought why cadaver dogs and not track dogs? Now, I'm wondering if that post by the person is why.:sad:

[Leanne Weich]

Oh dear..that's very disturbing, if true. Maybe that's why one of the articles mentioned they brought in 4 cadaver dogs. When I first read the article, I thought why cadaver dogs and not track dogs? Now, I'm wondering if that post by the person is why.:sad:

n/t, am not seeing anything other than the article. Can you tell me what is being said, even if it is by pm. Thanks.

[n/t]

n/t, am not seeing anything other than the article. Can you tell me what is being said, even if it is by pm. Thanks.

Hi Leanne, check PM

[febreze]

Is this the family?

http://www.koco.com/news/21397440/detail.html#


OKLAHOMA CITY -- The FBI and state agents are looking for clues in the disappearance of an Oklahoma family that's been missing for two weeks.

Bobby and Sherrilynn Jameson were last seen in Red Oak, looking to buy a 40-acre tract of land with their young daughter, Madyson.

it is very possible they got lost (good hunters get lost) so why not a family who didn't know the area. if they were robbed i'd think the money and everything of value in the vehicle would have been taken. hopefully they are alive but, it doesn't look that way the dog being in the truck for days tells me something bad happen.

[Shelby1]

I just found this on a local area blog. I won't post what was said, just the link.

http://www.mccooler.net/cgi-bin/blog

Read the comment after the article.

I hope this is okay, coldwater. Don't want to get in trouble!

http://www.mccooler.net/cgi-bin/mcblogscgi?Layout=


OMG :crying: How awful. I, too, know that area. It wouldn't surprise me if it was a spotty cell phone area. Does anyone know if the truck still has gas in it?

[Shelby1]

I did a search on Cheryl L Jameson. Looks like she might have lived at one time or does live in Altus, OK which is in the southwest part of OK.

[MissouriGMom]

I did a search on Cheryl L Jameson. Looks like she might have lived at one time or does live in Altus, OK which is in the southwest part of OK.


The correct spelling of the name is Sherilynn Jamison, I believe. Here's a link with this spelling.



http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=11377285#

[Shelby1]

The correct spelling of the name is Sherilynn Jamison, I believe. Here's a link with this spelling.



http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=11377285#

Ah! Ok, I'm sorry. I hadn't seen it spelled that way.

[MissouriGMom]

Ah! Ok, I'm sorry. I hadn't seen it spelled that way.


I don't know why I did this, but I just looked up Bobby Jamison on whitepages.com in Eufaula, OK and found him listed with Sherilyn.

:sad:

[fastpitch]

I wonder where their photos are from? Do you think they are from their driver's license?

I would like to see a family photo.

If one of the parents had planned to harm everyone, why walk from the truck. I think news reports are saying that the dad couldn't have walked very far.

[tv4me]

If they were lost or going for help, why leave the dog in the car? Why leave the cell phone in the car? I read some theories that they fell into a cess pool which was a short distance from the truck...got out to stretch their legs and fell in, and another that the woman wanted to commit suicide and take the family along with her...but then why not kill the dog as well?

I'm thinking maybe the family got kidnapped/murdered by the "seller" of the land they wanted to buy...although why didn't the killer, if there was one, take the money? Maybe he/she just wanted to steal the little girl?

[n/t]

If they were lost or going for help, why leave the dog in the car? Why leave the cell phone in the car? I read some theories that they fell into a cess pool which was a short distance from the truck...got out to stretch their legs and fell in, and another that the woman wanted to commit suicide and take the family along with her...but then why not kill the dog as well?

I'm thinking maybe the family got kidnapped/murdered by the "seller" of the land they wanted to buy...although why didn't the killer, if there was one, take the money? Maybe he/she just wanted to steal the little girl?

Even if they wanted to steal the girl, heck there was $60,000 cash in the truck. Why not take that too?

I think they either met with foul play or got lost and couldn't find their way back and perhaps something happened. Apparently there was alot of rain in the area.

Not sure I believe the suicide story but I do question why cadaver dogs were brought in for the search and not tracking dogs.

If it was a suicide, would LE go public with the story?

[VC2]

n/t, am not seeing anything other than the article. Can you tell me what is being said, even if it is by pm. Thanks.

cuold someone pm me too or paraphrase what was said? I am totally lost, cant see any comment about this case there.

[n/t]

Me too please? For some reason I can't click on the comments. :shrug:

check PM...VC2, I sent you one too

[MissouriGMom]

cuold someone pm me too or paraphrase what was said? I am totally lost, cant see any comment about this case there.

Go here
http://www.mccooler.net/cgi-bin/mcblogscgi

Then click on the gray box with the # 9786. That will let you see the comment.

[fastpitch]

from www.mccooler.net

"Ran into a guy from Red Oak ...... He said there was a 4 page suicide
note, left by the woman. Plan was to kill all of them. Supposedly before they
were missing she had been released from mental facility. 60,000.00 cash."

[GentleBreeze]

I wonder where their photos are from? Do you think they are from their driver's license?

I would like to see a family photo.

If one of the parents had planned to harm everyone, why walk from the truck. I think news reports are saying that the dad couldn't have walked very far.

I am not sure I believe the suicide but if she was going to kill them maybe she wanted them to be deep in the woods when she did.

But that doesn't make sense at all imo. If she was going to murder them and commit suicide why leave $60,000 in the truck?

I think they either got lost in the remote area they were looking at or they ran across something they weren't supposed to see.

imo

[Pat]

I appreciate the link that showed the clear pictures of the couple and the little girl. The first thing I thought when I saw the man's photo was that it had been taken for a security badge or something similar. The poster who said DMV photos could be right. This couple is also older than I expected.

The cadaver dogs may have been brought in because so many days had passed and there was no sign of any of them, other than the starving dog in the truck. That's a long time for anyone to be missing, much less an entire family, with a 5 yr-old, and police not to suspect they might all be dead.

If the husband had recently had back surgery, it could be he's been out on either sick leave or some kind of disability leave. If the little girl was being home schooled, there are no school officials to miss her, or the little girl may have missed the enrollment cutoff by just a day or two, and that's why she isn't in school yet.

For all of them to have disappeared without a trace sure doesn't bode well for a happy ending to this story.

[AmndaRcknwth]

A vid linked upthread said it is their drivers license pictures.

[birdwatch]

Hi MissouriGmom

I was reading this article. Very suspicious that the caller (s)
said a vehicle had been sitting by the side of the road for some time with an animal in it, they didn't give any indication it had been there for more than few hours and the the caller phoned back to say it had been there for a couple of days?? :confused:


http://www.mcalesternews.com/homepage/local_story_295111743.html?keyword=leadpicturestor y Somebody knew there was a dog in that truck for a couple of days? What is wrong with people? Have a heart! Get a clue!
I imagine there was money in the truck because the husband thought they were going to buy land. If he had known his disturbed wife had a different plan he would not have gone along.
This is SO sad.

[fastpitch]

Imagine, if you had broken in to get the dog and found that much $$$.

[GentleBreeze]

Who takes $60k in cash to buy land? Check or cashiers check would seem more likely.

I do know that others do pay in cash. Sometimes the owners will not take checks of any kind.

imo

[birdwatch]

Imagine, if you had broken in to get the dog and found that much $$$.

You could have a good question for another thread, eh? What would you do if ......... ?
I was just thinking that the person who knew that the dog was locked in that truck for a couple of days should have called LE. Kudos to the cops for turning in the money: some wouldn't.

[Shelby1]

I wonder how much land is for sale there? Sixty grand is a lot of money, don't get me wrong, but good farm ground or pasture is dang expensive. I wonder if there is a house of some sort???

[MissouriGMom]

I do know that others do pay in cash. Sometimes the owners will not take checks of any kind.

imo

This just just all so odd. Obviously, they told someone they were going to look at some land to buy, so why no concern from the family for not hearing from them? It was over a week before the truck was found. I wonder if LE has actually found a person who was selling land in the area? Sorry, just random thoughts.

[birdwatch]

This just just all so odd. Obviously, they told someone they were going to look at some land to buy, so why no concern from the family for not hearing from them? It was over a week before the truck was found. I wonder if LE has actually found a person who was selling land in the area? Sorry, just random thoughts. What did I miss - where they "obviously told someone"? If they told someone where they were going and/or what for on that day someone would have reported them missing, don't you think?

[MissouriGMom]

What did I miss - where they "obviously told someone"? If they told someone where they were going and/or what for on that day someone would have reported them missing, don't you think?

That's why I'm confused. LE reported that they were looking at 40 acres to buy. Where did they get that from?

[birdwatch]

That's why I'm confused. LE reported that they were looking at 40 acres to buy. Where did they get that from?

Hmm - 40 acres an a mule, eh? An American dream. I can imagine that they talked about that with friends or neighbors. I don't think they told anyone that they were going on that day to pursue that dream. I wonder if they got it from the 4 page note that was left?.

[Shelby1]

That's why I'm confused. LE reported that they were looking at 40 acres to buy. Where did they get that from?

So, it was around 1,500/acre land.......

[Nascargal]

OMG How awful. :crying:

[MissouriGMom]

So, it was around 1,500/acre land.......

Boy, I'm sorry, but my synapses aren't working well today. What do you mean?

[Shelby1]

Boy, I'm sorry, but my synapses aren't working well today. What do you mean?

If they had around $60,000 in cash and were looking to buy 40 acres, that would mean it was around $1,500 an acre land for sale. I was just trying to see if we could find land for sale in that area for around that price an acre.

[MissouriGMom]

If they had around $60,000 in cash and were looking to buy 40 acres, that would mean it was around $1,500 an acre land for sale. I was just trying to see if we could find land for sale in that area for around that price an acre.


Now I get it. I have no idea how much land is selling for in the area, but I know someone who can find out. I'll ask.

[MissouriGMom]

If they had around $60,000 in cash and were looking to buy 40 acres, that would mean it was around $1,500 an acre land for sale. I was just trying to see if we could find land for sale in that area for around that price an acre.


I found out that $1500 an acre is about right. Of course, there are many variables, such as access, water, type of terrain, etc.

[birdwatch]

Now I get it. I have no idea how much land is selling for in the area, but I know someone who can find out. I'll ask. Yay! Let us know. I was thinking that they wouldn't necessarily have planned to spend it all ; or they might have in mind something with a cabin on it. They may have had a lot just in case. I wonder if they had a particular site in mind. While you are you checking MGM please let us know if there is anything for sale in that area.....if anyone might know.
the link on post #33 works for comments.

[Shelby1]

I found out that $1500 an acre is about right. Of course, there are many variables, such as access, water, type of terrain, etc.

Ok, thanks.

[birdwatch]

Me too please. Comments won't open. TIA

try link on post #33.

[Jayne]

Who takes $60k in cash to buy land? Check or cashiers check would seem more likely.

Craigslist listing? Despite that there have been so many tragic things have happened when people respond to listing on CL (e.g. remember the girl who went to interview to be a nanny/childsitter?) and that there are lots of scammers on there, most people ask for a cash transaction..but when selling property?. Perhaps the property didn't even belong to the person who was attempting to sell it - just get the cash and run? Or the offer was for a much lesser amount if paid in cash? Or the man is on disability and he thought cash rather than writing a check/cashiers check for that amount would avoid benefits problems? Who knows?

Sure seems like foul play to be missing so long and to have left the dog behind - maybe they thought they were just going to be gone for a few minutes (e.g. needed to relieve themselves or something - in the woods) and then something happened - accidental or criminal. Seems to me that if they thought they'd be gone for a longer period of time, they'd have taken the dog (maybe the money, too) - as in if the truck broke down.

?

jmo

j

[MissouriGMom]

Perhaps there was no land in particular to buy but they were on a road trip looking for '40 acres'?

Maybe that's why no one knew where they were... or if they had possibly found something, bought it and stayed.. :confused:

Sorry for the ramble... thinking out loud..

Check this out.

http://www.landwatch.com/Oklahoma_land_for_sale/Latimer_County

[birdwatch]

Check this out.

http://www.landwatch.com/Oklahoma_land_for_sale/Latimer_County

WOW - nice properties available, eh? Can you sort out if any of these are right near to where the truck was? The husband would not have been able to walk they far, I don't think.
That fact makes it surprising to me that they have not been found yet - with the dogs and everything. How far could they go?

[Chica]

If they were lost or going for help, why leave the dog in the car? Why leave the cell phone in the car? I read some theories that they fell into a cess pool which was a short distance from the truck...got out to stretch their legs and fell in, and another that the woman wanted to commit suicide and take the family along with her...but then why not kill the dog as well?

I'm thinking maybe the family got kidnapped/murdered by the "seller" of the land they wanted to buy...although why didn't the killer, if there was one, take the money? Maybe he/she just wanted to steal the little girl?

I agree. Maybe they were meeting the seller of the land. To me, if he was sick or they ran out of gas, they wouldn't leave the dog, so those scenarios don't make sense to me. Also, if I saw a truck parked on the side of the road with a dog in it, I would have called LE the first morning that it was still there. Who would see a dog in an abandoned truck and wait days?

[KaraokeDiva]

Who takes $60k in cash to buy land? Check or cashiers check would seem more likely.
I can't imagine buying land with cash....if it were a boat or car I could understand an owner not taking a check, but purchasing land should involve a title search and such....

[Chica]

Hmm - 40 acres an a mule, eh? An American dream. I can imagine that they talked about that with friends or neighbors. I don't think they told anyone that they were going on that day to pursue that dream. I wonder if they got it from the 4 page note that was left?.

Are you from Canada?

[momof6]

I agree. Maybe they were meeting the seller of the land. To me, if he was sick or they ran out of gas, they wouldn't leave the dog, so those scenarios don't make sense to me. Also, if I saw a truck parked on the side of the road with a dog in it, I would have called LE the first morning that it was still there. Who would see a dog in an abandoned truck and wait days?

The person that saw the dog may not have traveled that road daily. Possibly it was someone out scoping out a hunting spot or fishing, hiking or checking on their own property. Maybe they came back a couple days later and saw the same pickup and dog and then called it in.

I live in the country and if I were to see a pickup on the side of the road with a dog, I would not think anything of it. But if I passed the same truck with dog, days later, then I would be suspisious and call it in.

[Jayne]

The person that saw the dog may not have traveled that road daily. Possibly it was someone out scoping out a hunting spot or fishing, hiking or checking on their own property. Maybe they came back a couple days later and saw the same pickup and dog and then called it in.

I live in the country and if I were to see a pickup on the side of the road with a dog, I would not think anything of it. But if I passed the same truck with dog, days later, then I would be suspisious and call it in.

You're right on that. However, our dogs that went with us were "hunting dogs" - so they wouldn't be left in the truck. The non hunting dogs would be left at home. But who knows how people think?

If I just drove by..yep..probably figured they were in the woods looking for something or taking some "relief"..but if I saw it again..yep, I'd be concerned.

I wonder if they fell into that mine/cesspool or whatever it was. But, you'd think they'd have found them by now.

And..I think that "suicide note" comment was total BS..just some blogger commentator looking for some reaction on the blog.

jmo

J

[Elvish2]

I did.
Here..... my post again. :smile:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rucky*Ron
Me too please. Comments won't open. TIA

I only saw 2 comments and the one with any interest at all was this one....

"Ran into a guy from Red Oak ...... He said there was a 4 page suicide
note, left by the woman. Plan was to kill all of them. Supposedly before they
were missing she had been released from mental facility. 60,000.00 cash."

[KaraokeDiva]

We did.
It may not happen often, but on occasion it does.

Edited to add: We were in our attorney's office... But we dealt in cash.
Okay...in an attys office I could kinda see it...but not in a simple buy/seller transaction. I would want more of a record of payment than a simple receipt which the seller could possibly claim was forged.

[monarda]

None of this makes much sense. Why would they take a little dog with them to conduct a business transaction?
Makes one wonder if they were fleeing from someone or something with the whole family and dog and that much cash.

[airportwoman]

If they were fleeing something or someone, why didn't they take the dog and especially the cash? Whenever a mysterious crime takes place in the Midwest, I always wonder if meth is somehow involved.

[monarda]

If they were fleeing something or someone, why didn't they take the dog and especially the cash? Whenever a mysterious crime takes place in the Midwest, I always wonder if meth is somehow involved.

Maybe they were intercepted.

[Santa'sMom]

I don't see anything out of the ordinary with taking the dog along. A lot of families take their dogs with them when they head out to the country. The dog being left in the truck makes me wonder if they met someone out there and the family got in that person's vehicle. Maybe said person isn't a dog person, or has allergies so Fido couldn't go along? The problem though is that if they got into a vehicle with someone else and that person harmed them in some way, why would that person not have gone back for the money in the truck? The money bothers me too. I guess they could have gone out to look at the land and then planned to go back into town to close the deal if they liked what they saw. It would seem like they would need a notary on hand to witness the signatures. Sometimes country folk do things a bit differently but I can't see them trusting a stranger with that kind of money so it seems like the seller would have to have been someone they knew. Then again, maybe the money had nothing to do with the land purchase?

Regarding the amount of cash found in the truck and the alleged note, another poster on that same comment page listed above stated that it was $30k and that there was no note found. "Rumor has it..." and all that.

[birdwatch]

Are you from Canada? Yes I am, lol. I don't get the Canadian reference, though. We studied American history "up there" (I live here now - for about 50 years) the "40 acres and a mule" was famous and it was the promise to freed slaves after your Civil War.. Not sure if they actually ever got that. It's a historic statement - like "A chicken in every pot". (don't remember which president said that)

[lune3]

Yes I am, lol. I don't get the Canadian reference, though. We studied American history "up there" (I live here now - for about 50 years) the "40 acres and a mule" was famous and it was the promise to freed slaves after your Civil War.. Not sure if they actually ever got that. It's a historic statement - like "A chicken in every pot". (don't remember which president said that)

It was the "eh?". Not the mule thing.
I know, I lived in Canada for 25 years.

[birdwatch]

Okay...in an attys office I could kinda see it...but not in a simple buy/seller transaction. I would want more of a record of payment than a simple receipt which the seller could possibly claim was forged. In an attorney's office you can see if a title search has been done and if the seller is the actual owner and if the property is unencumbered by loans or liens. As a real estate agent I once had a seller who insisted on actual cash. He left the closing with over 300K (and a gun in his napsack). He owed mega-bucks to various people and was going thru a divorce, but the property was unencumbered, so there was nothing we could do at the time. Needless to say; he was a nut. He told me he was planning to pay off his RV and live in it. He took off and lived in it - didn't pay it off. I later called the lender and let them know where it was (anonymously) and they were able to repossess it. (a 500K RV)
There is something very wrong with the whole thing - cash or not - the dog in the car; husband unable to walk far. Just doesn't follow the suicide theory, does it?

[birdwatch]

It was the "eh?". Not the mule thing.
I know, I lived in Canada for 25 years. Oh my goodness - you are so right. While I think I have totally lost my accent: though I still say "been there" - and not "bin there" - apparently I still write Canadian. I still write cheques, not checks,lol. When I call "up north" they think I have a southern accent - but here in the south they know for sure I from the north...few think of Canada. Congrats on your perception.
Hope we get some real news and not rumors about these folks soon.

[n/t]

I hadn't seen this before but apparently a pocket knife was also found in the vehicle. LE will ask the family if they think it belongs to the couple.

http://www.4029tv.com/news/21409284/detail.html

[n/t]

Mud slows hunt for missing three in southeast Oklahoma

More details about the conditions in the area and about the family.

http://newsok.com/mud-slows-hunt-for-missing-three-in-southeast-oklahoma/article/3411584

[Lynden1000]

These folks have fallen in an old well or some kind of mining shaft right there on the property and the local sheriff would do themselves a favor to look up the geological land deed for that area and look it up.

If the husband was going to do something to the wife and kid he wouldn't have left the cash behind. If the wife was going to do something to him she wouldn't have left the little dog behind.

If someone else set them up to kill them when they came with the cash, they would have???taken the cash. These folks are still right there they have obviously fallen into something where no one can find them.

The one article said this was an old natural gas drilling site, it's not too much of a stretch of the imagination that a sink hole could have opened up and they all three were walking through the long grass and fell in.

I think that's the most likely explanation by far.

With the husband's bad back and a 5 year old child in tow, I would imagine they didn't wander too far before falling. Surely they're within a one mile radius of the truck. I hope that's where the searches are concentrated.

[Amy]

I wonder how much land is for sale there? Sixty grand is a lot of money, don't get me wrong, but good farm ground or pasture is dang expensive. I wonder if there is a house of some sort???

I don't know about the rest of the land near where the truck was found, but from the looks on the pic--good farm ground would not seem to be an option. Pasture? I don't know, didn't look like much vegetation.

[Amy]

I hadn't seen this before but apparently a pocket knife was also found in the vehicle. LE will ask the family if they think it belongs to the couple.

http://www.4029tv.com/news/21409284/detail.html

I don't know how close the Jamiesons were to their families, but I wouldn't put much stock into their NOT knowing if the knife belonged to the couple. Unless either one was known to use the pocket knife often, have it out where family would see him/her using it. I wouldn't know, just looking @ any of my family members, whether or not any carried a pocket knife. And, even if she or he did not generally carry one, they could have bought one recently for whatever reason. IMO

[CRRJJ]

I wonder how much land is for sale there? Sixty grand is a lot of money, don't get me wrong, but good farm ground or pasture is dang expensive. I wonder if there is a house of some sort???

Sorry for the late post but just for the information, good farm land in Iowa is selling for between $5,000 and $6,000 an acre.

[n/t]

I don't know how close the Jamiesons were to their families, but I wouldn't put much stock into their NOT knowing if the knife belonged to the couple. Unless either one was known to use the pocket knife often, have it out where family would see him/her using it. I wouldn't know, just looking @ any of my family members, whether or not any carried a pocket knife. And, even if she or he did not generally carry one, they could have bought one recently for whatever reason. IMO

I agree. I wouldn't know if any of my family members carried a pocket knife either. I guess they're trying to see if it is possible evidence. Something an alleged perp left behind. I doubt it.

[Shelly1305]

from www.mccooler.net

"Ran into a guy from Red Oak ...... He said there was a 4 page suicide
note, left by the woman. Plan was to kill all of them. Supposedly before they
were missing she had been released from mental facility. 60,000.00 cash."

Is there any other information about this 4 page suicide note? Do you think this is true? There's not any information that I can find anywhere about a suicide note?
Thanks a bunch!

[KatieLady]

With Hunting Season Underway, Search For Family Scales Back

http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/1009/672102.html

:sad:

[Destini]

Suppose they actually had more money on them than what was found in the vehicle.

Maybe the person supposedly selling the land was actually a scammer, they had agreed to pay him/her a certain amount cash up front, this person met them there to take them to the property & they got in the car with him/her ..... then robbed them of the money they had on them. Not knowing there was more money in their truck & also not wanting to be seen near the family's vehicle, the perp never went back.

[GentleBreeze]

With Hunting Season Underway, Search For Family Scales Back

http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/1009/672102.html

:sad:

Well many hunters have discovered bodies that LE were unable to find.

So maybe one of the hunters will come upon something that shows what happened to this family.

imo

[KatieLady]

Well many hunters have discovered bodies that LE were unable to find.

So maybe one of the hunters will come upon something that shows what happened to this family.

imo

I sure hope so GB.....their families must be going crazy not knowing!

[birdwatch]

Suppose they actually had more money on them than what was found in the vehicle.

Maybe the person supposedly selling the land was actually a scammer, they had agreed to pay him/her a certain amount cash up front, this person met them there to take them to the property & they got in the car with him/her ..... then robbed them of the money they had on them. Not knowing there was more money in their truck & also not wanting to be seen near the family's vehicle, the perp never went back. That does seem like the most likely scenario at this point. If they were't found within a mile of the car they must have gone with someone else....... which makes it unlikely they will be found anytime soon. I can't imagine they would purposely leave the money and the dog.
I'm kind of stunned by the idea that - if the husband or the wife had a plan to kill - that the man would have cared about the money, while the woman would have cared about the dog. Huh? Seems to me likely they both would have cared about both the money and the dog.

[VC2]

With Hunting Season Underway, Search For Family Scales Back

http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/1009/672102.html

:sad:

jeeeze i can't believe it. A whole family goes missing including a FIVE YEAR OLD CHILD and they are scaling back searching so a bunch of guys with their guns can go and shoot animals????????? No i am not against hunting but i sure am against it being more important than a missing family who MIGHT be injured but alive or at least one member might be. What if someone took the family, killed the parents and kept the child to assault in a jaycee sort of scenario. What if two members died in an accident and the one with the bad back was more injured but still alive?

"well sorry all, we have to let the hunters have their fun on the first day of hunting season so we wont be searching as much".

How about:

"sorry hunters, our top priority is finding this endangered family. Would you be willing to work with us to search for them and shorten the hunting season?"

or:

"Hunting will go on as planned but with a couple of changes so we can find these missing people including the child. First we are going to bar hunting in specific areas while we search them. All hunters will have to come in and get the updates of the areas and days we will be searching. Of course you are welcome to join the search as well."

or:

"there will be no hunting in a 3 mile radius around the car until it is cleared"

my freaking goodness (ok i actually said something more emphatic) i cant believe that hunters would put their sport over the wellbeing of 2 adults and little girl, and if they were so selfish that LE just says ok.

IMO

[lilismom]

I agree. I wouldn't know if any of my family members carried a pocket knife either. I guess they're trying to see if it is possible evidence. Something an alleged perp left behind. I doubt it.

I'm with you n/t. Imagine? "Darn, I left the money AND my trusty pocket knife in the truck". Doubt it.

IMO,
Lilismom

[sassypantsOK]

http://www.4029tv.com/news/21387742/detail.html


The family of three have been missing since October 9th. They called the search off due to the current "black powder" hunting season. They claim that the search is too dangerous with the large number of hunters in the area.

[sassypantsOK]

http://newsok.com/mud-slows-hunt-for-missing-three-in-southeast-oklahoma/article/3411584

Mud slows hunt for missing three in southeast Oklahoma
BY JOHNNY JOHNSON Staff Writer
Published: October 24, 2009

RED OAK — Bobby Dale Jamison, his wife, Sherrilynn, and their 6-year-old daughter Madyson had already been missing for 14 days when search teams from across the region decided one last time to brave the mud-slick roads of the Red Oak Mountain area in southeastern Oklahoma.

The steep and winding oil and gas roads that had been bogging down pickups and horse trailers all morning were becoming too treacherous. Search conditions were poor, and black-powder deer season, which started today, meant it would be too dangerous to have search crews tromping through the woods.

After an all-out mass search with more than 100 people came up short last weekend, Latimer County Sheriff Israel Beauchamp knew Friday was probably going to be the last chance to unravel the mystery of the missing family. It was a big mountain, and the clock was ticking.

Beauchamp has been looking for the Jamison family since someone who lives in the area found their pickup Oct. 17, eight days after the resident remembered seeing the family in the area.

The pickup was parked at a well site, about 30 miles from the family’s Eufaula home. Beauchamp said the family had gone to look at a couple of 40-acre plots of land for possible purchase with what appeared to be plans to move a shipping container onto the secluded mountain land and live there.

Inside the pickup, investigators found Bobby Dale Jamison’s wallet, Sherrilynn Jamison’s purse, maps, a GPS, a "substantial” amount of cash, and a cell phone last used Oct. 8.

At first, Beauchamp said, it appeared the family had become lost because they were not at the location marked on the map, but investigators recently learned the site where the truck was parked was a second site where the family was looking for land.

Beauchamp said he was not ready to call the search effort a "recovery” for bodies at this point, but as the days have turned into weeks, some searchers have begun to prepare themselves for the worst.

Monty Jackson, a former state forester and experienced searcher said he doesn’t tend to make assumptions about what has happened or what he expects to find.

"We’re just here to do anything we can to try to help some people who need help,” Jackson said. "Nobody knows what’s going on. We’ll just look and see if we can find some clues. It’s hard to say what’s going to happen.”

When the call went out that the sheriff’s office was looking for experienced searchers and people familiar with the area, they got 12 dog search teams, and dozens of searchers on foot, on horse and on four-wheelers. And all of them had one goal in mind — for one last day, they would work sunup to sunset, trying to cover as much ground as possible and do their best to bring some closure.

In this case, recent rainfall had made tracking impossible, so the search meant setting up grids to look for disturbed ground, checking waterways and looking for any pieces of clothing — any clues.

Beauchamp said the air searches were frustrating at times, because he had two helicopters, a plane and an unmanned drone, but because of the thick "triple canopy” foliage, and windy conditions, pilots were not able to see much of anything.

On the ground, it was slow going, through thick mud, tangled undergrowth, rocky ravines and mountainous terrain. But searchers said it was becoming almost as important to complete a thorough search to rule areas out.

As the sun started to drop near the horizon, however, teams had not found any clues, and it was time to start down the mountain, disappointed and frustrated.

In May, Bobby Dale Jamison filed a civil suit against his parents Bobby Dean and Scarlet Jean Jamison for more than $10,000 for the loss of money to which he said he was entitled when his father sold the family gas station.

Bobby Jamison took out a protective order against his father in May, but authorities said it has been dismissed and appears unrelated to the disappearance of the younger Jamison and his family.

In the suit, the missing Jamison alleges his father enticed him to work for free at the Oklahoma City gas station, but with the understanding that one day, the son would have a half-interest in the station when he was older.

Victor Salcedo, principal of Eufaula Elementary School, said Madyson is a kindergarten student there.

"Our prayers go out to the family,” Salcedo said.

Read more: http://newsok.com/mud-slows-hunt-for-missing-three-in-southeast-oklahoma/article/3411584#ixzz0UzsyImIF

[watson]

There is a 3 page thread for these people in "Breaking News". Lots of information there. Perhaps the threads will be combined.

[Lynden1000]

Suppose they actually had more money on them than what was found in the vehicle.

Maybe the person supposedly selling the land was actually a scammer, they had agreed to pay him/her a certain amount cash up front, this person met them there to take them to the property & they got in the car with him/her ..... then robbed them of the money they had on them. Not knowing there was more money in their truck & also not wanting to be seen near the family's vehicle, the perp never went back.


That sounds feasible. If that's the case, hopefully someone in the area will have heard through the grapevine about somebody offering land for sale.

[Lynden1000]

Well many hunters have discovered bodies that LE were unable to find.

So maybe one of the hunters will come upon something that shows what happened to this family.

imo

Hunters are pretty familiar with the areas where they hunt. I hope LE has asked local hunters if there are any areas where they think somebody could've run into trouble re old wells or mineshafts.

[BevAnn]

WOW. This is right down the road from me, and this is the first I've heard of it! However, I was in Tulsa this past weekend, for a soccer tourney, so I haven't seen the news in a couple days. The Channel 40/29 site you guys keep referencing is my hometown news.

I've been trying to think this through....if it was me, and say hubby fell and hurt his back bad. Or broke a leg or something. What would I do? Say we were quiet a ways from the truck. BTW, I have a chihuahua (not sure what "Small" dog was in the truck) and I would leave him in the truck, if we were taking what was supposed to be a quick walk around the property, esp with it so muddy and wet.

ok, back to my scenario...if he's down, hurt...I have 2 choices - stay with him, or go for help. A cell phone was in the truck, left maybe becuase they expected no problems, and/or there's no service.

So, staying with him, would not do anyone much good, she is going to obviously have to go for help. She takes the child of course. They get lost maybe? Trying to get back to the truck? Or it's possible they all got hurt some how.

I am more inclined to believe that type situation.

As for the money, it does seem odd, to carry that kind of cash around, even if planning to buy land. He wasn't meeting someone RIGHT THEN, to purchase land. They were just looking...so why not have that money put somewhere safer until a deal on land had been made?

But hey, I've people do stranger things than that - I think the money plays no part in this disappearance, it's just an odd aspect of it.

I hope they are found soon - can they go 2 weeks w/o food/water and live? We've had so much rain, if they did fall in a mineshaft, and survived the fall, maybe they can get water somehow, to be able to survive until found. Maybe?? It would be so nice if that's what happens and they are found safe and sound.

[fastpitch]

I would like to know more about the husband's back surgery. It could be that he could only walk a few feet. That would mean that someone had to pick them up.

I wonder if the truck was parked somewhere, where a vehicle would normally pull over?

[Shelly1305]

I wonder where their photos are from? Do you think they are from their driver's license?

I would like to see a family photo.

If one of the parents had planned to harm everyone, why walk from the truck. I think news reports are saying that the dad couldn't have walked very far.

These are the parents passport photos.

[Jayne]

I would like to know more about the husband's back surgery. It could be that he could only walk a few feet. That would mean that someone had to pick them up.

I wonder if the truck was parked somewhere, where a vehicle would normally pull over?


OK..as paranoid as I am. I do think this is what happened (IF they didn't fall into one of those holes): someone met them...despite their GPS.they couldn't find the property..so ..someone picked them up...they figured they wouldn't be gone that long...so they left the dog and the money inside..they wouldn't bring the money until they figured they were going to buy the place.

I figured..a "pee" in the woods..and they fell into a hole..OR they were picked up by someone.

Craigslist..I've tried to search for properties..there are several that would fall into that category. I'm no sleuth..I'm sure the LE has investigated that?

I fear that the parents are dead and the girl is OFF with someone?

Or..all three are down in some Sinkhole?

jmo

J

[Jayne]

Don't really get the relevance of it..except that they may think the knife was part of a "suicide plan"? or left behind? (DUMB..dont' you think? If someone took this family and disposed of them..they'd have a pocket knife left in the Locked Car?)

I really don't get it..but the LE are trained to look into things.

If the pocket knife was part of a suicide plan..WHY was it in the truck?

This just makes no sense to me..but I want to know.

jmo

J

[saydeezmom]

Don't really get the relevance of it..except that they may think the knife was part of a "suicide plan"? or left behind? (DUMB..dont' you think? If someone took this family and disposed of them..they'd have a pocket knife left in the Locked Car?)

I really don't get it..but the LE are trained to look into things.

If the pocket knife was part of a suicide plan..WHY was it in the truck?

This just makes no sense to me..but I want to know.

jmo

J

i think LE just asking family b/c maybe someone gave it to one of them for Christmas, birthday, father's day etc. if someone remembers LE can say for sure it belongs to one of them. my uncle used to give all the guys in the family the same gift for Christmas. One year he gave them all little pocket knives, one year he gave them all the same something else, it was just something he did. no feelings hurt. jmo

[Jayne]

Hunters are pretty familiar with the areas where they hunt. I hope LE has asked local hunters if there are any areas where they think somebody could've run into trouble re old wells or mineshafts.

ITA. Rest of thoughts..left out.

jmo

J

[Santa'sMom]

From the comments mentioned in post #16 of this thread:

"Comment submitted by harleyman on 2009-10-25 16:29:52
That is all BS. It wasn't 60,000.00 it was 30,000.00. There was no note left. My
brother is in law enforcement that is part of the investigation. Getting info
straight from the horse's mouth. Matter of fact I was part of the search party.
Inside information is a nice thing to have."
Just to add a second view of the equation. Again, grain of salt and all that.

[tv4me]

Comment submitted by harleyman on 2009-10-25 16:29:52
That is all BS. It wasn't 60,000.00 it was 30,000.00. There was no note left. My
brother is in law enforcement that is part of the investigation. Getting info
straight from the horse's mouth. Matter of fact I was part of the search party.
Inside information is a nice thing to have."
Just to add a second view of the equation. Again, grain of salt and all that.

Well then pray tell, WHAT do they THINK happened to this poor family?

[Nascargal]

Well many hunters have discovered bodies that LE were unable to find.

So maybe one of the hunters will come upon something that shows what happened to this family.

imo

I was thinking the same thing GB

[2Hope4]

One report stated the family was 'going green' and looking for land to put a box trailer on to make into a home. Box trailer isn't the correct term, having a fibrofog moment, but from what I am recalling, it was like the trailer part behind a tractor trailer. I see them for sale all the time, and some people buy them, turn them into homes, a place to store hay, or a storage building. That type thing.

Anyway, so they weren't looking for a house and land. Just some land to call their own. In that case, I don't think the husband's back disability comes into at all. Who said he couldn't walk far? With proper pain management, you'd be surprised! Plus if he was planning on living off the land, he'd need to be in OK health to do that. Growing a garden is hard work, and requires manual labor. Even a small garden. One large enough to have produce to can of course would require even more labor. So unless LE or a close family member is stating the man couldn't walk very far, then I'm taking that with a grain of salt.

If they were riding around and just looking for land that was for sale, it is possible they were getting out at different places, and seeing what the lay of the land was. LE said they were going to check out two places, how they know this, I have no idea! I've not seen anything that say who was supplying LE with information about the family. I can totally see the family going to check out land without notifying the property owners, or a realitor. I know we did that. If the neighborhood, home, lay of land, etc., wasn't what we were looking for, then it was no need to waste the realitor nor the property owner's time. So the family knew what they wanted, and without seeing it, they wouldn't know if the land would work for their needs.

Taking the dog with them seems like a normal thing as well. Lots of people take their dog with them most everywhere. If the weather isn't too hot or too cold, you'll see many people with a dog in their vehicle when just going to Walmart or the grocery store. So not unusual to want to take the dog with you to view some land. Perhaps once they got there, they didn't want the dog getting muddy, or running off from them, etc. Maybe they had already been walking other property and dog was tired, so they left it in the vehicle. I know we've done that as well, so could see that happening. Especially if they were all going to pee in the woods! Wouldnt' want to take the dog with ya to do that.

I don't think much about them having the money with them either. It was stated they had a security system on their home, and I'm thinking this is a family that doesn't trust the banks. You wouldn't believe the people that I heard about in our area running to the banks to remove money when the economy took a turn for the worse. Many remembered the banks closing up during the depression, and people just losing what money was in it. My own father in law STILL tells us to make sure we're saving money AT HOME so you'll have access to it if the banks fail. :sneaky: So while I don't believe in keeping that much money at home, and actually don't even own that much money, I can see others doing it. I can see them having a safe at home they kept their money in, and them paying for everything with cash and no debit. Sounds different for some, but there are still people that don't use credit cards, debit cards, or checks. Everything is saved up for and paid with cash. So again, not seeing anything sinister here.

I truly don't believe anyone 'did' something to this family. My gut says this family fell into a mine, a well, or something of the like, and couldn't get out. Most likely they aren't still alive, but that slight chance says they could be. Others have survived off the land, or sadly by eating those that have died. :crying: Awful thought, but it has happened, and if worse came to worse, you do what you must do to survive yourself.

I think they need to get some excellent dogs in there trained for rescuing, and see if they can pick up the scent of either of the family members, and see what happens. Call off hunting in that area! If the property owner has it posted, hunters aren't suppose to be there. So honestly can't understand them calling off a search because of hunting season! Announce it on the local tv stations and newspapers that NO HUNTING will be allowed in that area during such and such weeks. Put posters where ammo and guns are sold to alert hunters, and post the land as either private property or crime scene, or whatever to make sure noone enters there hunting. Besides, the majority of hunters are wonderful people. If they were asked to NOT hunt there, I can guarnetee many would show up to help with the search. Especially any hunters that have hunted that area for years. Most hunters here have their special places to hunt, and rarely hunt other places. I can bet there are hunters there that have hunted that same land for generations, and know it like the back of their hand! USE THAT INFORMATION FOR THE SEARCH FOR THIS FAMILY!!!!

The only thing that I think is kinda different is having a large amount of cash with you. But if they didn't fully trust their alarm system, or they were planning on buying other things that weekend, or week, whichever they were planning on being away from hoem, then I can understand. What if they also were interested in a tractor and equipment for clearing the land, gardening, etc., in their quest for becoming self sufficient? Perhaps they had seen a good deal on other things that they wanted to check out besides the land, and wanted to make sure they had the money to buy right then if it was what they wanted? Again, if they didn't use checks (which we don't know if they did or didn't), then you'd have to keep cash on you for those instances. And I don't think we know for positive exactly how much they were carrying. Rumors are from a substancial amount to $60,000. So we don't know for factual how much they had with them.

Again, I've never had $30,000 cash on me at ANY time, but have had that in checks. Also it's possible they SOLD something, and had the cash from that. We just don't know where that money came from, or why they were carrying it with them. I do NOT however believe they intended on using it to buy land with that day. Besides, they were only a short distance from home where the truck was found. No reason they couldn't have gone back home for the money if need be. Again, we don't know where else they had been that day, the day before, the week before, etc., and no idea where they were planning on going or for how long they planned on being away from home.

Really not a lot of information. The truck was found abandoned with a starving doggy inside. The family of three were looking at land in their quest to become green, and are missing. Money was left inside the truck, along with jackets.

Those are basically the facts as we know them. Nothing so far to suggest anyone else was involved in their disappearance. So again, I'm thinking SEARCH AND SEARCH AND SEARCH at least in a 5 mile radius of that truck. As long as it's been, if they are dead, searchers should be smelling it. :crying: Otherwise, use megaphones, and scent dogs, and get back into those woods calling for the family members, and looking for any evidence.

[febreze]

check all their phone records in the days and weeks before they vanished, i would think if that land is hunted every year why has no one else vanished if there is old mine shafts or wells on the surounding property. I'm thinking it's possible someone picked them up from the location of the truck and something happen after that, i have seen no verification of a suicide note.

[Amy]

Good post, 2Hope4. Kind of made me step back a bit. And remember that much of what I have been reading is speculation, and, unfortunately, some rumor added in. And that LE has not yet publisized a great deal of facts.

[just42day97]

There is a 3 page thread for these people in "Breaking News". Lots of information there. Perhaps the threads will be combined.

I had posted over there on the breaking news thread...but it's gone now...I thought CW would combine the old thread over there with this one...
Case is still so strange to me...

[MissouriGMom]

I had posted over there on the breaking news thread...but it's gone now...I thought CW would combine the old thread over there with this one...
Case is still so strange to me...

There was alot of good information on the other thread. I hope CW brings it over here.

[dreamtime]

What I know about the missing family from news articles:

LE only said that there was a substantial amount of money. No amount ever given out.
The cell phone last used on Oct. 8.

They had two properties to look at. This area was the second one.
LE have talked with the first property owner.
I would think they would have talked to the second property owner, as well, but I don't know that.

It has rained a lot since they went missing. It may be one reason there is not much scent left.
The truck sat there for over a week, before local farmer reported it to police.

There seem to be many hazards in that area, sinkholes, wild hogs, snakes, caverns.
There was bow hunting right about the time they disappeared.

They were looking at an off the grid lifestyle.
A giant moving box as a home. I guess they have been used that way by a number of people.

I would not put much stock in local forums. While there may be some truth in there, there is a lot of just rumor as well.


IMO: Probably met with some kind of natural disaster, like falling into a sinkhole.
I hope not.

[just42day97]

I've not heard any national news like HLN, or FOX have this story..which is really strange to me...it's a whole family just missing..and seems like there is really nothing at all about them in the news....

[IAMME]

http://www.4029tv.com/news/21440416/detail.html

EUFAULA, Okla. -- A national group that helps look for missing children is joining the search for a missing family from the Eufaula area.

[just42day97]

http://www.4029tv.com/news/21440416/detail.html

EUFAULA, Okla. -- A national group that helps look for missing children is joining the search for a missing family from the Eufaula area.

oh that is great!

[omsk99]

Posted today on the same "blogspot" page as earlier in the thread:

"I hear they found the missing family in a strip pit. I havent seen anything in print or on TV yet. That was coffee shop talk this AM in La. Co. ... "

http://www.mccooler.net/cgi-bin/mcblogscgi?Layout= (post 9829)

[watson]

Posted today on the same "blogspot" page as earlier in the thread:

"I hear they found the missing family in a strip pit. I havent seen anything in print or on TV yet. That was coffee shop talk this AM in La. Co. ... "

http://www.mccooler.net/cgi-bin/mcblogscgi?Layout= (post 9829)

Were they alive?? Please keep us posted. I cannot figure out that page..?..

[tv4me]

What is a strip pit? Is it like a sinkhole? Is it really deep?

[Kip]

(′strip ′pit)

(mining engineering) A coal or other mine worked by stripping. An open-pit mine.

--------

There isn't anything on any other news sources about the family being found. But it could have been a local with info who posted that and there hasn't been an official announcement yet -- or it could be just a rumor.

[dreamtime]

http://www.ncmec.org/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=1134094&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US
Madyson still on NCMEC list.

So, if it is true, no official notice by LE.

[Shelby1]

Geez, I can't find any updated news articles since it was announced that the search had been scaled back. :crying:

[Kip]

The news about the family being found was apparently a rumor.

This story (dated today) says no new developments in the case (the first part of the story is about a deer hunter being shot). http://newsok.com/shooting-studied-as-family-sought/article/3413165

[Shelby1]

I don't understand how a whole family missing isn't being covered :mad:

[Destini]

I noticed that some of the news articles are spelling their last name Jamison instead of Jameson. Don't know which is correct.

This may have already been posted, but I hadn't seen it. They used unmanned drones & took hundreds of pictures of that area, to no avail. Also in this article the search last Friday included members of Texas Equusearch Mounted Search and Recovery Team.

http://www.mcalesternews.com/local/local_story_300110700.html

Why are we not hearing anything else? Is it just back to business as usual for them & they're hoping the hunters will find them now? If there are mines in the area, are these something that would even be searchable or would it be too dangerous for anyone to even attempt?

[Destini]

There are people posting on the forum at this link who claim to be family members, and they say as of this morning nothing has been said to the family about them being found.

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/kotv/TG34MQO0NEGKU8R1G/p3

[Lynden1000]

There are people posting on the forum at this link who claim to be family members, and they say as of this morning nothing has been said to the family about them being found.

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/kotv/TG34MQO0NEGKU8R1G/p3

My early confidence that they fell into a well or mine is starting to weaken a bit. It's just so hard to believe that they haven't been found. I can't imagine they would have gone far because he has a bad back, they had a child in tow, and they wouldn't want to wander too far from their truck, where they had a large sum of cash. They probably would have taken the path of least resistance as well and would have headed off in the least treacherous, brush, hilly direction.

I'm starting to lean more in the direction that someone picked them up and harmed them, or perhaps a hunter accidentally shot one of them, panicked, shot the remaining two and buried them.

[omsk99]

There are people posting on the forum at this link who claim to be family members, and they say as of this morning nothing has been said to the family about them being found.

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/kotv/TG34MQO0NEGKU8R1G/p3

I didn't know how true that post was, I had never seen that website before, and the person sort of alluded it was a rumor she/he heard, and sometimes they are true, but probably not in this case.

Such an odd case, nothing makes sense - two adults and a child cannot just go unnoticed, whether something happened to them or they left on their own (I do not believe that for a second, it would make absolutely no se4nse - money in the car, the car itself, the dog, all their possessions - why would they be running away).

I think they got stranded somewhere, maybe they ran out of gas, or were not feeling well, but they were obviously planning on coming back shortly, because they left a small dog in the locked car.

[Kip]

My early confidence that they fell into a well or mine is starting to weaken a bit. It's just so hard to believe that they haven't been found. I can't imagine they would have gone far because he has a bad back, they had a child in tow, and they wouldn't want to wander too far from their truck, where they had a large sum of cash. They probably would have taken the path of least resistance as well and would have headed off in the least treacherous, brush, hilly direction.

I'm starting to lean more in the direction that someone picked them up and harmed them, or perhaps a hunter accidentally shot one of them, panicked, shot the remaining two and buried them.

So many of the circumstances of this case don't make sense to me. One of the biggest, IMO, is the dog in the truck. I don't believe that if the family were planning to disappear or if it were a murder/suicide plan that the dog would be left in the truck. I also can't believe that if the family was going out to look at land and bothered to take the dog with them, that they wouldn't have let the dog out to walk with them.

Your hunter theory makes sense. Maybe the hunter put the dog back in the truck so the dog wouldn't be hanging around the site where he hid the bodies (I'm not sure a hunter would have a shovel to dig graves in that soil.) Since the bodies haven't been found - maybe the hunter removed the bodies?

[n/t]

Leaving the large sum of money doesn't make sense whether it was foul play or an accident perpetrated by someone else.
If a hunter shot one of them by accident, I would hope he would've known to call for help and where to get help.

[Destini]

I didn't know how true that post was, I had never seen that website before, and the person sort of alluded it was a rumor she/he heard, and sometimes they are true, but probably not in this case.

Such an odd case, nothing makes sense - two adults and a child cannot just go unnoticed, whether something happened to them or they left on their own (I do not believe that for a second, it would make absolutely no se4nse - money in the car, the car itself, the dog, all their possessions - why would they be running away).

I think they got stranded somewhere, maybe they ran out of gas, or were not feeling well, but they were obviously planning on coming back shortly, because they left a small dog in the locked car.

No, they weren't running away IMO. Even if they hated the dog, they wouldn't leave all that money there. I agree, they were planning to be back shortly. I still think someone picked them up under the guise of looking at property. Maybe they have enemies who were afraid they were going to spill something & they were set up. Just a thought.

[Destini]

Leaving the large sum of money doesn't make sense whether it was foul play or an accident perpetrated by someone else.
If a hunter shot one of them by accident, I would hope he would've known to call for help and where to get help.

And not kill 2 more FGS ... you would HOPE.

[dreamtime]

http://newsok.com/search-for-eufaula-family-scaled-back-sheriff-says/article/3413260?custom_click=rss

[Shelby1]

http://newsok.com/search-for-eufaula-family-scaled-back-sheriff-says/article/3413260?custom_click=rss

Arrrrgh. This is so frustrating.

[MissouriGMom]

Arrrrgh. This is so frustrating.


I know!!! There's been nothing printed about this missing family in the local paper since the 27th.

[Lynden1000]

Leaving the large sum of money doesn't make sense whether it was foul play or an accident perpetrated by someone else.
If a hunter shot one of them by accident, I would hope he would've known to call for help and where to get help.


I hear ya...but sadly, look how many times we've read about people who committed terrible crimes in a bass-ackwards attempt to protect their own interests.

What if a drunk hunter accidentally shot and killed the child? He'd be looking at charges and a lawsuit no matter how contrite he/she was. I could easily see someone multiplying that tragedy to try and save their own skin.

[just42day97]

I know!!! There's been nothing printed about this missing family in the local paper since the 27th.

I'm amazed/shocked that this case has not gotten national media all over it!...3 member of the same family just vanished..and there has been little news about this...It's really sad!

[Cheri_G]

I'm amazed/shocked that this case has not gotten national media all over it!...3 member of the same family just vanished..and there has been little news about this...It's really sad!

Not enough people talking about it I'd guess. Seems to me the media goes with the cases that meet a certain criteria all of which revolves around ratings and money.

Take a look around this board (or any other for that matter), the cases talked about most are generally the ones getting the most media attention. They know people are watching and they know there is a hook to get more watching.

[2Hope4]

Partially true, Cherie. BUT, which came first, the egg or chicken? Are the threads with the most posts BECAUSE of the media attention?? People have either seen or heard about those cases through the media, and thus come to the internet to find out more. In this case, there hasn't been much stated. There's not enough information to work with, and no further information being released. There's not a spokesperson for the missing family, nor families members jumping up and down demanding attention. None that we've seen or heard from. None posting on internet that we know of. No coworkers, or neighbors yelling from the roof tops that something needs to be done. Therefore, this case will very quickly become another cold case.

Those cases that generate LOTS of media attention have family members, friends, coworkers that are contacting the media to generate that interest. Then you have neighbors speaking out through the media, and the LE in those cases drip/drip/drip out information to keep the public's interest. We've seen NONE of that in this case!

WHere are the real life people that know this missing family??? Where is the family, friends, coworkers, parents of kids that played with this missing child??? Why have we only heard from the missing woman's mother, and only a few sentences at that. Was this family planning on disappearing??? Where did that get that much cash??? WHY NO PUBLIC OUTCRY?!?!?!?

I would hope and pray that if I missing, or God forbid, my entire family was gone, SOMEONE WOULD LOOK FOR US!!!! :crying:

[Cury-us Coyote]

Search for missing family scaled back

Beauchamp said both Bobby and Sherrilyn Jamison are disabled and do not work. He said Bobby Jamison was injured in a car accident, but he declined to elaborate on Sherrilyn Jamison’s disability.

The family often traveled to time-share units around the country, he said. They were originally from the Oklahoma City area, but had recently moved to Eufaula.

Family members of the Jamisons did not immediately return phone calls to The Associated Press for comment Friday.

Bobby Dale Jamison filed a civil lawsuit in Oklahoma County against his father, Bobby Dean Jamison, earlier this year in a dispute over ownership of a gas station in Oklahoma City. In the lawsuit, which is still pending, Bobby Dale Jamison alleges his father threatened his family.

http://www.mcalesternews.com/homepage/local_story_304155828.html?keyword=leadpicturestor y

[tv4me]

Geesh. Could the father have arranged some sort of "hit" on his son and family? Certainly doesn't sound like there was much love between them.

[MissouriGMom]

Partially true, Cherie. BUT, which came first, the egg or chicken? Are the threads with the most posts BECAUSE of the media attention?? People have either seen or heard about those cases through the media, and thus come to the internet to find out more. In this case, there hasn't been much stated. There's not enough information to work with, and no further information being released. There's not a spokesperson for the missing family, nor families members jumping up and down demanding attention. None that we've seen or heard from. None posting on internet that we know of. No coworkers, or neighbors yelling from the roof tops that something needs to be done. Therefore, this case will very quickly become another cold case.

Those cases that generate LOTS of media attention have family members, friends, coworkers that are contacting the media to generate that interest. Then you have neighbors speaking out through the media, and the LE in those cases drip/drip/drip out information to keep the public's interest. We've seen NONE of that in this case!

WHere are the real life people that know this missing family??? Where is the family, friends, coworkers, parents of kids that played with this missing child??? Why have we only heard from the missing woman's mother, and only a few sentences at that. Was this family planning on disappearing??? Where did that get that much cash??? WHY NO PUBLIC OUTCRY?!?!?!?

I would hope and pray that if I missing, or God forbid, my entire family was gone, SOMEONE WOULD LOOK FOR US!!!! :crying:

ITA! They were missing for more than a week before anyone said anything. The little girl was in kindergarten. Why didn't the school notify anyone? Where's the concern for this family? I don't get it. :angry:

[Lynden1000]

ITA! They were missing for more than a week before anyone said anything. The little girl was in kindergarten. Why didn't the school notify anyone? Where's the concern for this family? I don't get it. :angry:

I wouldn't be surprised if the little girl was homeschooled. If this family was wanting to live off the grid, that could be an indication that they weren't particularly interested in being a part of conventional society. Maybe estranged from extended family as well.

I'm thinking the local feeling must be that no foul play was involved and therefore the media isn't really interested in the story. Not that it makes the family's lives any less important, but you know the media is always looking for sensationalism.

[MissouriGMom]

I wouldn't be surprised if the little girl was homeschooled. If this family was wanting to live off the grid, that could be an indication that they weren't particularly interested in being a part of conventional society. Maybe estranged from extended family as well.

I'm thinking the local feeling must be that no foul play was involved and therefore the media isn't really interested in the story. Not that it makes the family's lives any less important, but you know the media is always looking for sensationalism.

I'll have to look, but I read somewhere that Madyson was a student at Eufaula Elementary School. I grew up in the area and still have family there. They totally believe that foul play was involved. Lots of rumors going around.

[Kip]

I'll have to look, but I read somewhere that Madyson was a student at Eufaula Elementary School. I grew up in the area and still have family there. They totally believe that foul play was involved. Lots of rumors going around.

Yes, I read that Madyson was in kindergarten. One of the stories had a quote from the principal of the school.

[MissouriGMom]

Yes, I read that Madyson was in kindergarten. One of the stories had a quote from the principal of the school.

Thanks, Kip. I knew I read it somewhere. This is such a mystery. The money and dog left in the truck, and poof, they're gone.

[Lynden1000]

I'll have to look, but I read somewhere that Madyson was a student at Eufaula Elementary School. I grew up in the area and still have family there. They totally believe that foul play was involved. Lots of rumors going around.

Thanks for the correction. That does make it even doubly odd that no one expressed concern over their absence.

[tv4me]

But why then leave the money?


Because he (the killer) wanted it to look like the family wandered off somewhere and that it wasn't a murder? I too, think maybe the bad blood between father and son had something to do with this.

[Shelby1]

Rucky - I don't think the killer KNEW about the money.

I agree. If you're the kind of person that can murder a whole family, I doubt that you could walk away from $30,000-$60,000 in cash. IMO.

[just42day97]

I agree. If you're the kind of person that can murder a whole family, I doubt that you could walk away from $30,000-$60,000 in cash. IMO.

I agree...if they were killed, then whoever did it didn't know about any money in the car...IMO

[aproudmom]

I agree...if they were killed, then whoever did it didn't know about any money in the car...IMO

I was hoping to hear they had been found. I must say ITA if someone did something to them and knew that money was there I dont think they would leave it so that tells me they did not know it was there. JMO

[aproudmom]

Leaving the large sum of money doesn't make sense whether it was foul play or an accident perpetrated by someone else.
If a hunter shot one of them by accident, I would hope he would've known to call for help and where to get help.

I agree if it was a accident and it would have been kinda strange to accidentally shot 3 people and not know I would think they would scream or something hunters usually are not out to kill a family so I just dont see that JMO

[just42day97]

I agree if it was a accident and it would have been kinda strange to accidentally shot 3 people and not know I would think they would scream or something hunters usually are not out to kill a family so I just dont see that JMO

Yes I agree...be kinda hard to "accidentally" shoot 3 people..I can see maybe 1 but not 3..
This case is very strange...Also as I have stated before, I am really surprised that not much national media has not covered this..I mean gezzzz..we got a family of 3 just vanished....
Hoping for some news soon!

[Lynden1000]

Yes I agree...be kinda hard to "accidentally" shoot 3 people..I can see maybe 1 but not 3..
This case is very strange...Also as I have stated before, I am really surprised that not much national media has not covered this..I mean gezzzz..we got a family of 3 just vanished....
Hoping for some news soon!


I can see a hunter who was drunk accidentally shooting one of them, maybe the child, and then panicking and shooting the other two. After all, he/she would know that there was no way out of going to jail. Killing someone while hunting in an impaired state would at least be manslaughter or criminally negligent homicide. In that situation you never know what someone might do. They might just kill them all in an attempt not to go to jail.

Not that i'm in any way convinced this is what happened, but I don't think it's implausible.

[Shelby1]

Ground Search Called Off

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — After nearly two weeks of combing the heavily wooded Sans Bois Mountain area in southeast Oklahoma, the Latimer County Sheriff’s Office on Friday called off its ground search for a missing Eufaula family.

Investigators still are pursuing leads in the disappearance of Bobby Dale Jamison, 44, his wife Sherrilyn, 40, and the couple’s 6-year-old daughter, Madyson, but Sheriff Israel Beauchamp (BEE-chum) said no clues turned up in the search of the area so it’s being halted. snipped

http://www.adaeveningnews.com/statenews/local_story_307123415.html

[Shelby1]

Court records--order of protection that Bobby Dale Jamison (the missing man) filed against his father, Bob Dean Jamison.


http://www1.odcr.com/detail.php?Case=046-PO%20%200900035&County=046-

[Shelby1]

Court records---concerning ownership of a gas station


http://www.oscn.net/applications/ocisweb/GetCaseInformation.asp?submitted=true&viewtype=caseGeneral&casemasterID=2470961&db=Oklahoma

[Cury-us Coyote]

Court records---concerning ownership of a gas station


http://www.oscn.net/applications/ocisweb/GetCaseInformation.asp?submitted=true&viewtype=caseGeneral&casemasterID=2470961&db=Oklahoma

IF I'm interpreting correctly, Jack J testified; Protection Order dismissed; court costs shared.
jmo

[Shelby1]

IF I'm interpreting correctly, Jack J testified; Protection Order dismissed; court costs shared.
jmo

Yes, on the order of protection case.


The way I read the gas station case is that it's still ongoing.

[Cury-us Coyote]

Yes, on the order of protection case.


The way I read the gas station case is that it's still ongoing.

You caught me; I had not read both court cases. But now that I have - how does the fee entry AC69 Child Abuse Multidisciplinary Fee apply in the gas station case?

[Shelby1]

You caught me; I had not read both court cases. But now that I have - how does the fee entry AC69 Child Abuse Multidisciplinary Fee apply in the gas station case?

I wondered about that myself. I did some looking at other random cases and it looks to me like all court costs are split up and put in to those different categories.

[2Hope4]

This case really bothers me. A whole family missing, and national news aren't covering it. :cursing: If they left on there on, no way they left all that money in there! Even if you had more money with you, you wouldn't leave thousands behind. No way. So either foul play, or an accident is left. If an accident, were all three injuried? All three fall into a mine, or open well? Kinda doubt that would happen. One adult could have gotten hurt, and the other adult and child left to get help, and got lost. Were the trees covered in leaves or had they already fallen? Was the forest very dense? Easy to get lost in? Any open areas? We've heard it's 'rough' terrain, but what exactly does that mean? Lots of rocks, and tree roots, and gullies?

What motive would someone have to kill them? And to kill the whole family, instead of say the father? Need to see if there are any reasonable motives, and who would have a motive. Haven't heard anything except the feud with the father over a business, and a protective order that wasn't issued. Why did he feel the need to ask the courts for a protective order against his own father? Had the father gotten that angry over the business issue that he threatened their lives? Was it a spur of the moment comment? Or an ongoing threating situation? Was the situation so volitatve that the family felt they had to just disappear? Yet again, why leave the money??? OR was the money accidentally left, and they were too far away when they realized it to come back and get it? But the dog...why leave it?

So many questions, no answers.

Prayers is all I have to offer, and thus I"ll continue to pray for them.

[2Hope4]

Court records--order of protection that Bobby Dale Jamison (the missing man) filed against his father, Bob Dean Jamison.


http://www1.odcr.com/detail.php?Case=046-PO%20%200900035&County=046-

Link currently not working for me. Can you tell me if it states WHY the order was requested?

And though this wouldn't be in that link, I"m also wondering, who knew they were going to look for land? Was his father, or anyone connected to that part of the family, aware of them going to look for land that day? Could they have been followed into that area? Were there any tire tracks noted?

[just42day97]

wow....I hadn't checked on this case in a few days, and was hoping that they would have been found by now...
Still really surprised that not much media has reported on "Family of 3" that has just vanished...
Case is really strange....
Prayers that they are found soon!

[MystryPhobia]

Link currently not working for me. Can you tell me if it states WHY the order was requested?

And though this wouldn't be in that link, I"m also wondering, who knew they were going to look for land? Was his father, or anyone connected to that part of the family, aware of them going to look for land that day? Could they have been followed into that area? Were there any tire tracks noted?


It doesn't say. It says that all parties were sworn and then the case was dismissed and the the cost of the case was to be split.

[Shelby1]

No updates that I can find. Sigh.

[just42day97]

No updates that I can find. Sigh.

I've also looked for updates...nothing I can find either..:(

[just42day97]

Wow...still nothing? This is so sad..a whole family is just gone....and nothing hardly is reported on it...

I also just noticed that the name is spelled two different ways in some of the reports I have read...they also spell it "Jamison" in some of the reports.....

[2Hope4]

:crying: Is there no family at all that misses this family??? No family that talked about them during Thanksgiving? No one that cares if they are alive or what? Ugh!

[prayers]

My name is Connie and I am the mother or Sherilyn Jamison, Grandmother of Madyson and Mother-in-law of Bobby Jamison. There's not a day goes by that we haven't thought of the 3 of them. As every one else has done, we have tried to figure out what has happened to them. I'm afraid that they got on the wrong property. It's only going to get worse as the Christmas season gets here. Thanks for all of your prayers. connie

[watson]

My name is Connie and I am the mother or Sherilyn Jamison, Grandmother of Madyson and Mother-in-law of Bobby Jamison. There's not a day goes by that we haven't thought of the 3 of them. As every one else has done, we have tried to figure out what has happened to them. I'm afraid that they got on the wrong property. It's only going to get worse as the Christmas season gets here. Thanks for all of your prayers. connie

I am so sorry. What a mystery this has turned out to be. When you say you think they got on the wrong property, do you think they accidently trespassed and someone did them harm? Is that kind of response the norm? I hope you get some answers. I will be thinking of you during the holidays.

[dreamtime]

My name is Connie and I am the mother or Sherilyn Jamison, Grandmother of Madyson and Mother-in-law of Bobby Jamison. There's not a day goes by that we haven't thought of the 3 of them. As every one else has done, we have tried to figure out what has happened to them. I'm afraid that they got on the wrong property. It's only going to get worse as the Christmas season gets here. Thanks for all of your prayers. connie

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prayers:

Welcome to IS.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Do the police tell you any theories they may have?

Prayers for you and all of your family.

[Kip]

My name is Connie and I am the mother or Sherilyn Jamison, Grandmother of Madyson and Mother-in-law of Bobby Jamison. There's not a day goes by that we haven't thought of the 3 of them. As every one else has done, we have tried to figure out what has happened to them. I'm afraid that they got on the wrong property. It's only going to get worse as the Christmas season gets here. Thanks for all of your prayers. connie

Dear Connie, I will continue to pray for you and your family.

Someone has to know something.

Are you familiar with www.projectjason.org ? There's a thread there about your family and projectjason offers help and support to family members of the missing. Kelly Jolkowski's son Jason is missing, and she started Project Jason to help other missing persons and their families.

[tv4me]

Were there mine shafts or abandoned tunnels on the properties they were looking at? Are they deep and like caves? I was reading about the poor student who got stuck while exploring a cave and died. Is it possible that they were exploring an abandoned mine and the tunnel collapsed? Because the dog and money was left in the car, it doesn't sound like they expected to be gone for very long.

I thought at first, someone may have come by and picked them up to drive them to look at some land; perhaps telling them their car couldn't make the steep trails or something. But then, I can't figure out why they wouldn't take the dog with them...

I hope that they are found soon.

Connie...have you tried contacting some of the media channels/shows like 48 Hours, 20/20 or Prime Time? If they were to air a show about your missing daughter and family, it might make someone come forward if he or she knows anything.

[zinnia]

My name is Connie and I am the mother or Sherilyn Jamison, Grandmother of Madyson and Mother-in-law of Bobby Jamison. There's not a day goes by that we haven't thought of the 3 of them. As every one else has done, we have tried to figure out what has happened to them. I'm afraid that they got on the wrong property. It's only going to get worse as the Christmas season gets here. Thanks for all of your prayers. connie

Connie, not knowing is the very worse. Everyday you hope that an answer will come and the sun goes up and the sun goes down. My heart aches for you and your family; you are in my prayers. Keep strong; a great many people on these boards send their prayers also.

zinnia

[prayers]

I did a search on Cheryl L Jameson. Looks like she might have lived at one time or does live in Altus, OK which is in the southwest part of OK.

mother of SHERILYN JAMISON....SHE HAS NEVER LIVED IN ALTUS. SHE IS FROM OKLAHOMA CITY.

[pammi2]

My name is Connie and I am the mother or Sherilyn Jamison, Grandmother of Madyson and Mother-in-law of Bobby Jamison. There's not a day goes by that we haven't thought of the 3 of them. As every one else has done, we have tried to figure out what has happened to them. I'm afraid that they got on the wrong property. It's only going to get worse as the Christmas season gets here. Thanks for all of your prayers. connie

Oh Connie, I pray you get answers soon. It must be the most heart wrenching of all situations.

[prayers]

i am so sorry. What a mystery this has turned out to be. When you say you think they got on the wrong property, do you think they accidently trespassed and someone did them harm? Is that kind of response the norm? I hope you get some answers. I will be thinking of you during the holidays.

yes, i believe that they accidently got on the wrong property and harm was done to them. I have been told many bad stories about that area and i don't think they were warned about it. For example men leasing land to hunt on and it didn't even belong to them. I've heard if you step on the wrong prorerty such as pot fields, meth labs or stills that they will shoot you on the spot. Someone is always telling me a story like that. I lost my youngr daughter 2 years ago to a bee sting and now 3 more family members. It absolutly breaks my heart. I think every day of any pain or agony that might have been inflicted unon them. I try to remember that satin can take their bodies but he can't take their souls. I have already contacted nancy grace and am hoping to hear from her soon. I stopped at the local radio station off texana rd. And hwy. 69. He is extreamy interested in this story and will be talking with the sherrifs and any one else that can help keep this going.. Like the fbi.thanks for keeping this going. Connie oh i noticed there was some misspelling of their names so if it helps....bobby d. Jamison.sherilyn l. Jamison and madyson s. Jamison.take care

[watson]

yes, i believe that they accidently got on the wrong property and harm was done to them. I have been told many bad stories about that area and i don't think they were warned about it. For example men leasing land to hunt on and it didn't even belong to them. I've heard if you step on the wrong prorerty such as pot fields, meth labs or stills that they will shoot you on the spot. Someone is always telling me a story like that. I lost my youngr daughter 2 years ago to a bee sting and now 3 more family members. It absolutly breaks my heart. I think every day of any pain or agony that might have been inflicted unon them. I try to remember that satin can take their bodies but he can't take their souls. I have already contacted nancy grace and am hoping to hear from her soon. I stopped at the local radio station off texana rd. And hwy. 69. He is extreamy interested in this story and will be talking with the sherrifs and any one else that can help keep this going.. Like the fbi.thanks for keeping this going. Connie oh i noticed there was some misspelling of their names so if it helps....bobby d. Jamison.sherilyn l. Jamison and madyson s. Jamison.take care

Bless your heart. Thanks for the information, I had no idea the area was so bad. The drug scene is everywhere it seems. Also, it sounds as though they could have been ambushed. Otherwise, your family would have tried to buy their way out of that situation and the money wouldn't have stayed in the truck. I so hope you find the answers you seek. Your life seems too full of sadness, too many trials. I am sorry, you are in my thoughts.

[aproudmom]

yes, i believe that they accidently got on the wrong property and harm was done to them. I have been told many bad stories about that area and i don't think they were warned about it. For example men leasing land to hunt on and it didn't even belong to them. I've heard if you step on the wrong prorerty such as pot fields, meth labs or stills that they will shoot you on the spot. Someone is always telling me a story like that. I lost my youngr daughter 2 years ago to a bee sting and now 3 more family members. It absolutly breaks my heart. I think every day of any pain or agony that might have been inflicted unon them. I try to remember that satin can take their bodies but he can't take their souls. I have already contacted nancy grace and am hoping to hear from her soon. I stopped at the local radio station off texana rd. And hwy. 69. He is extreamy interested in this story and will be talking with the sherrifs and any one else that can help keep this going.. Like the fbi.thanks for keeping this going. Connie oh i noticed there was some misspelling of their names so if it helps....bobby d. Jamison.sherilyn l. Jamison and madyson s. Jamison.take care

Prayers for you and all of your family

[just42day97]

My name is Connie and I am the mother or Sherilyn Jamison, Grandmother of Madyson and Mother-in-law of Bobby Jamison. There's not a day goes by that we haven't thought of the 3 of them. As every one else has done, we have tried to figure out what has happened to them. I'm afraid that they got on the wrong property. It's only going to get worse as the Christmas season gets here. Thanks for all of your prayers. connie

Connie, you and your family are in my prayers...I pray something is found out soon as where your Daughter, grandaughter and son in law are.......

[just42day97]

mother of SHERILYN JAMISON....SHE HAS NEVER LIVED IN ALTUS. SHE IS FROM OKLAHOMA CITY.

I had posted a week or so ago, that I had found 2 spellings of the last name...thanks for setting the record straight....

[just42day97]

yes, i believe that they accidently got on the wrong property and harm was done to them. I have been told many bad stories about that area and i don't think they were warned about it. For example men leasing land to hunt on and it didn't even belong to them. I've heard if you step on the wrong prorerty such as pot fields, meth labs or stills that they will shoot you on the spot. Someone is always telling me a story like that. I lost my youngr daughter 2 years ago to a bee sting and now 3 more family members. It absolutly breaks my heart. I think every day of any pain or agony that might have been inflicted unon them. I try to remember that satin can take their bodies but he can't take their souls. I have already contacted nancy grace and am hoping to hear from her soon. I stopped at the local radio station off texana rd. And hwy. 69. He is extreamy interested in this story and will be talking with the sherrifs and any one else that can help keep this going.. Like the fbi.thanks for keeping this going. Connie oh i noticed there was some misspelling of their names so if it helps....bobby d. Jamison.sherilyn l. Jamison and madyson s. Jamison.take care

I do hope some more national news is done on this. I have said over and over I am so suprised that a whole family has come up missing and there hasn't been more news on your family. I hope you keep pressing for the media to cover this. I will send an email to the nancy grace show now to asked them.
Still praying......

[Lynden1000]

I do hope some more national news is done on this. I have said over and over I am so suprised that a whole family has come up missing and there hasn't been more news on your family. I hope you keep pressing for the media to cover this. I will send an email to the nancy grace show now to asked them.
Still praying......

I'm surprised too. Not to trivialize this very serious situation, but it does have all the elements of a good mystery and generally the public is keen for a good mystery.

In an earlier post, a local resident stated that the prevailing attitude in the area is that something sinister happened; but I still think the media has written this off as a probable sinkhole accident. Not that an accident isn't important, but obviously the media is interested in something more sensational.

Where I grew up in East Tenn, when people went missing after wandering off into the woods, it's generally accepted that they got a little too close to somebody's marijana patch or still. I think something like that could have happened here. I'm still not convinced they got into a vehicle with someone else. I just don't think they would have willingly ventured too far from the truck.

[Kip]

A few things puzzle me:

The dog left in the truck. If the family was just going to get out and take a quick look around, why leave the dog in the truck - it's the perfect time and place for the dog to get a little exercise. (On the other hand, if they got in someone else's vehicle, the other person likely wouldn't have wanted to take a dog along.)

What property were they going to look at? They must have been serious about it if they took cash along - it seems unlikely that it would have been the first time they went to look.

Could something have happened to the family somewhere else and someone have moved the family's truck to that location?

[bugout]

I too want to know exactly where they were going. We've seen this time and again, people going to look at a house are attacked. People answering craig's lists ads killed.
Where were they going, this is key.

In a case like this following the finances may help. It doesn't seem possible to me any longer that in this case they left and walked away from 30K in cash. Something terrible has happened. They could still be alive, and are being held by some freak.

Why don't we know the property they were going to look at? We need TES on this case. I hope that the family contacts Tim Miller, because I agree the land in that area needs a grid search.
It may be the only way they are found.

Bug :rose:

[Cury-us Coyote]

OSBI Requests Help in Search for Missing Eufaula, OK Family
Posted on 23. Oct, 2009

Tim Miller will be traveling to Oklahoma tomorrow morning to assist the OSBI in hopes of finding the Jamison family.

http://texasequusearch.org/2009/10/osbi-request-help-in-search-for-missing-eufaula-ok-family-2/


Eye in the sky: Unmanned drones used to search from air
Published: October 27, 2009 10:06 am

More than 200 volunteers assisted with the massive search on Friday, including members of the Texas Equusearch Mounted Search and Recovery Team.

http://www.mcalesternews.com/local/local_story_300110700.html

[Ice Cycle]

I was just reading up on this case and surprised I had never heard anything about it. I of course have a ton of questions and speculations.
First thing that came to my mind though is a road rage idiot. I mean their is no way that if I had that much $ that it would not either be in my purse or on my spouse.
It makes me think they could of been ordered out of the car and then quickly stashed the $ in the car. Of course other things are possible such as maybe the child had
to go to the bathroom and they stopped and took her somewhere and then something happened. Or possibly they ran out of gas or the car broke down.
Wonder if they have said if the car was in working order? Though I still can't imagine leaving that much cash in a car.

[BorderCollieMom]

I pray TES can find out what happened out there. It seems like Tim can always find out things that LE cant/doesnt/etc...

[omsk99]

OSBI Requests Help in Search for Missing Eufaula, OK Family
Posted on 23. Oct, 2009

Tim Miller will be traveling to Oklahoma tomorrow morning to assist the OSBI in hopes of finding the Jamison family.

http://texasequusearch.org/2009/10/osbi-request-help-in-search-for-missing-eufaula-ok-family-2/


Eye in the sky: Unmanned drones used to search from air
Published: October 27, 2009 10:06 am

More than 200 volunteers assisted with the massive search on Friday, including members of the Texas Equusearch Mounted Search and Recovery Team.

http://www.mcalesternews.com/local/local_story_300110700.html

Thank you for the update. I was surprised it was quiet for a while, and I couldn't find any new updates online. Such an odd and sad case :sad:

[Lynden1000]

A few things puzzle me:

The dog left in the truck. If the family was just going to get out and take a quick look around, why leave the dog in the truck - it's the perfect time and place for the dog to get a little exercise. (On the other hand, if they got in someone else's vehicle, the other person likely wouldn't have wanted to take a dog along.)

What property were they going to look at? They must have been serious about it if they took cash along - it seems unlikely that it would have been the first time they went to look.

Could something have happened to the family somewhere else and someone have moved the family's truck to that location?

That's a good point. If someone killed them, he/she could've driven the truck far enough away to divert attention from his own property. If the money was in the glove compartment, the perp likely had no idea it was there.

[dreamtime]

Just to recapture what we know already:
As I remember it:

Big delay in LE being notified about the truck.
Small dog left in car.
Dog did survive.
Money found in truck.
(No amount given)
Cells, coats, boots found in car.

The family went to look at 40 acres of land.
They saw one parcel and went to look at a second one.
LE has not said which piece of property was for sale.
LE has not said if the Jamison's spoke to the owner of the
second piece of land.
This is a very rural area of OK.
The truck was found on a dirt road.
(pics are in this thread)
It had rained a lot.
Terrain is rugged and steep.
Locals say there are wild boars, snakes in the area.
There are caves and sinkholes.
Local police searched by various methods.
TES did come and help search.
Equipment bogged down trying to reach the area.
Search was called off.
LE did say truck was in working order and had enough gas.

[carterkatt]

Dreamtime... thanks for the condensed version. It's very helpful. This case is very odd, isn't it?

[Ice Cycle]

Yes Dreamtime thanks for the summary, it does answer some of my questions. Based on what I have read and this is just mo, I think either these people did not get out of that car by their own wishes or either this is a elaborate set up by one of the adults. Hope I am wrong and the searchers find them alive and well but unfortunately these people could be long gone from there.

[Ice Cycle]

If you mean a set-up by Bobby or Cheryl, to disappear, wouldn't they have taken their money?

My feeling is they're in a crevice, ravine or old shaft somewhere nearby due to a horrible accident.

MOO

Actually Rucky the money is my main reason for thinking that. If one of them did this and tried to make it appear as something else they would probably leave the $ there or at least part of it. I read somewhere (and was just a poster) that the amount of $ found was only 30k but that they had went with 60K, that might or might not be true. It is just so hard for me to believe they would of got out of that car willingly and left either 30k or 60k there or their cell phones, for any reason. Especially since that have not been able to find them close by.

[Chica]

Just to recapture what we know already:
As I remember it:

Big delay in LE being notified about the truck.
Small dog left in car.
Dog did survive.
Money found in truck.
(No amount given)
Cells, coats, boots found in car.

The family went to look at 40 acres of land.
They saw one parcel and went to look at a second one.
LE has not said which piece of property was for sale.
LE has not said if the Jamison's spoke to the owner of the
second piece of land.
This is a very rural area of OK.
The truck was found on a dirt road.
(pics are in this thread)
It had rained a lot.
Terrain is rugged and steep.
Locals say there are wild boars, snakes in the area.
There are caves and sinkholes.
Local police searched by various methods.
TES did come and help search.
Equipment bogged down trying to reach the area.
Search was called off.
LE did say truck was in working order and had enough gas.

Hi Dream, Was looking at your list and what struck me is that nothing new at all has been discovered since the beginning. Since I haven't kept up with this thread I was hoping there was more info, but I guess not. I hope TES can help, but a lot of time has passed.

[dreamtime]

Hi Dream, Was looking at your list and what struck me is that nothing new at all has been discovered since the beginning. Since I haven't kept up with this thread I was hoping there was more info, but I guess not. I hope TES can help, but a lot of time has passed.

====

I agree that nothing new has been found since
the first police agency was on the scene.
TES was there in the last days of the search.
Since the search has been called off,
and it is very close to winter time, I do not
think there will be another search, at least not
until late spring.

Any chance of search dogs or fresh clues were
hampered by the fact of how long the truck sat there
before it was reported to the police.

I had thought at one time that
their dog should have been allowed
to search for them, once the dog was
healthy again.
But, then I read somewhere..
that the dog was a very small dog.

This is truly one of the most baffling cases
I have seen.

[airportwoman]

Is there any new information about this case?

[Riverwalk!]

I can't find anything about the missing family other than Bobby's dad died.

http://www.swtimes.com/articles/2009/12/11/obituaries/all_obituaries/obits121109_09.txt

[merical]

Its kind of scary to think that a family of three could literally disappear, leaving a dog to starve in the car, a significant amount of cash in the car, and have this whole case fall off the radar. Why do I feel like other than the one search I've read about, its a rather half-hearted investigation? This just bugs me.

[just42day97]

Its kind of scary to think that a family of three could literally disappear, leaving a dog to starve in the car, a significant amount of cash in the car, and have this whole case fall off the radar. Why do I feel like other than the one search I've read about, its a rather half-hearted investigation? This just bugs me.
It's bugged me from the very start...I don't understand how a whole family just goes missing and we've hardly heard a word about it....

[merical]

Can law enforcement really just ignore a case where a child is missing? Does this particular family have no one acting as a spokesperson for them? What happened to their home? Where is their truck now? The dog? Why aren't their loved ones raising Hell over this?

Is it possible that that they aren't missing? Is it possible that this whole thing was staged because one of them committed a crime? Could it be possible that one of them was killed in a domestic dispute so the stage was set to look this way on purpose? One wouldn't necessarily suspect a domestic situation if the truck was found with money inside it. I'm only theorizing here because I can't believe this whole case has seemingly disappeared.

[Kip]

Can law enforcement really just ignore a case where a child is missing? Does this particular family have no one acting as a spokesperson for them? What happened to their home? Where is their truck now? The dog? Why aren't their loved ones raising Hell over this?

Is it possible that that they aren't missing? Is it possible that this whole thing was staged because one of them committed a crime? Could it be possible that one of them was killed in a domestic dispute so the stage was set to look this way on purpose? One wouldn't necessarily suspect a domestic situation if the truck was found with money inside it. I'm only theorizing here because I can't believe this whole case has seemingly disappeared.

It is frustrating, but I doubt LE is ignoring it. I imagine it's either that there are no more leads to investigate or LE is investigating behind the scenes. When a friend of ours was murdered several years ago, after a couple of weeks of local newspaper coverage, the story died completely - until about a year later when his wife and boyfriend were arrested for hiring a couple of guys to kill our friend. LE had obviously been investigating, but none of us had any idea. It's the same with the case of that young man who was kidnapped -- the story died, and now, a year and a half later, there's been an arres.

The money left in the truck leads me to believe that one or all of the family did not leave on their own. Did anyone know they had that money? If the truck had been found with no money, would anyone have known the money was missing? If the family (or one of them) left on their own, why not take the money?

[Snow_Dream]

Wow! This is unbelievable-I mean that a family of three could vanish like that and no one can seem to find out what has become of them. What happened with Tim Miller and Equusearch? Did any clues to what happened turn up? So many questions and no answers-unbelievable. :confused:

[Snow_Dream]

I came across this article, I find it interesting that LE are also looking for a man that use to live with the Jamison's.

Loved Ones Speak Out On Search For Missing Eufaula Family
Posted: Oct 24, 2009 8:17 PM CDT Updated: Oct 25, 2009 9:43 PM CDT

By Dan Bewley, The News On 6

LATIMER COUNTY -- Another search of a Green Country mountainside Saturday didn't turn up any new clues in the disappearance of a missing Eufaula family.

Bobby and Sherilynn Jamison and their six-year-old daughter, Madyson, haven't been seen since October 9th.

As investigators continue looking for leads, the family's loved ones are getting more and more worried.

"I hate the fact knowing that we might all end up going to funerals, but if that's God's plan, then that's God's plan," said Charla Heffley, Bob Jamison's cousin.

Volunteers have spent the past two days scouring Panola Mountain in rural Latimer County, where the family's abandoned truck was found.

"A lot of worry, wondering if they're still alive, wondering why they can't find them. I'm just praying to God, to everybody, that they are alive and that they can come back home," said Connie Kokotan, Sherilynn Jamison's mother.

Kokotan says her daughter's family loved the outdoors, and the Latimer County sheriff says they were looking to buy 40 acres of land in the area where they disappeared.

Kokotan also says investigators are looking for a man who lived with the family last summer in their Eufaula home.

"Nothing makes sense. I don't even understand why they were up that far, away from their home," said Connie Kokotan.

The sheriff says that part of the county is very dangerous, with rocky terrain and thick trees. It's very easy to get lost.

Kokotan is praying her daughter, granddaughter, and son-in-law are simply somewhere else and hopes someone, somewhere, has that crucial bit of information that will solve the mystery.

"I can't understand why this has happened to them and I'm hoping that they can be returned safely home," said Connie Kokotan.

Saturday marked the beginning of the black-powder deer hunting season, and the sheriff says that will make it even more dangerous for search crews to look in the mountain.

* Bobby Jamison is 44, 6'3", weighs 170 pounds and has brown hair and eyes. He has a back disability and may slouch when he stands.
* Sherilynn Jamison is 40, 5'07", weighs 105 pounds and has brown hair and eyes.
* Madyson Jamison is 6-years-old, has blonde hair and has missing baby teeth in the front of her mouth.

Anyone with information can call the Latimer County Sheriff's Office at 918-465-2161.

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=11377285

[tootie]

I totally agree. It seems like no one is even looking for this family. No new information in the news. Just nothing. It's like poof. The people are gone and so is any updates about them. :sad:

[Shelby1]

I was really hoping that hunters would come across something---one tiny clue---anything that would help.

How in the heck can a whole family just go *poof*???

[Tracian]

HLN just updated this story...nothing new, no leads, nothing.

I don't understand what could have happened...maybe they picked up a hitchhiker? It was so rural where they were.

[ttcRider]

did a quick check and still no updates... Its like no one cares? Why haven't we heard from family or friends?? :sad:

[Tracian]

did a quick check and still no updates... Its like no one cares? Why haven't we heard from family or friends?? :sad:


Seems like the media really picks and chooses who and what families they give time to...sad.

[just42day97]

did a quick check and still no updates... Its like no one cares? Why haven't we heard from family or friends?? :sad:

I'm thinking the same thing...if this were friends or family of mine I would be stalking the media and LE trying to find answers!!
I can't believe a whole family just goes..POOFF...and hardly nothing is reported on it....strange...

[ttcRider]

I'm thinking the same thing...if this were friends or family of mine I would be stalking the media and LE trying to find answers!!
I can't believe a whole family just goes..POOFF...and hardly nothing is reported on it....strange...

It just doesnt make any sense. How come we don't even hear from the teenage son who wasn't with them? Doesn't he want to find them??

[Shelby1]

http://www.newsok.com/locating-eufaula-family-remains-priority-for-officials/article/3441758?custom_click=pod_headline_crime

Locating Eufaula family remains priority for officials
BY SHEILA STOGSDILL The Oklahoman
Published: February 24, 2010

RED OAK — Latimer County authorities continue to search for a family that was last seen more than four months ago.

Read more: http://www.newsok.com/locating-eufaula-family-remains-priority-for-officials/article/3441758?custom_click=pod_headline_crime#ixzz0gSmJK IqN
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