Teenage girl found in NYC claims complete amnesia [ID'd Kacie Aleece Peterson]

[Scienter]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/23/teen.jane.doe/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

I suppose this is the place for such events. I don’t know what investigations authorities perform in such cases.

[lune3]

I just read this on another news site. Gosh, this girl has a family who may be frantic........that is, I hope she has a family.

When she evidently responded to "Amber" my heart skipped a beat. She even bears a slight resemblance.

[n/t]

I just read this on another news site. Gosh, this girl has a family who may be frantic........that is, I hope she has a family.

When she evidently responded to "Amber" my heart skipped a beat. She even bears a slight resemblance.

We're discussing it on Amber Dubois thread. I don't think it looks like her but ......who knows.

[Elyssa]

I hope her family comes forward soon. Poor girl.

[EvilEyeBall]

I think they're a good chance she's not telling the truth.

But whoever she is, I am glad she's safe.....and if she has family that really cares, I hope they find her.

[lune3]

I wonder what kind of examinations or analyses the authorities perform on her to try to determine her origins.

The fact that she was found on October 9th doesn't sound encouraging. Surely they've gone through missing persons' files, which seemingly have led nowhere...so far. Poor girl. She nearly looks as though she disguised herself as a boy, unless her hair was cut at Covenant House recently.
I'm asking myself, what led her to be outside Covenant House?

[lune3]

I think they're a good chance she's not telling the truth.

But whoever she is, I am glad she's safe.....and if she has family that really cares, I hope they find her.

That's crossed my mind.

[IAMME]

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet

I ran a search on all the missing "Ambers" if she is on that list I am leanign toward little Amber Crum. She had a birthday greeting of some sort written on her arm accordign to the article on cnn.com, little amber crum's birthday was 9-25-81.

My second pick would be Amber Nation, and third would be AMBER JEAN SWARTZ-GARCIA. What do you guys think?

[Jayne]

The media seems to lean toward her claiming that she's an amnesiac. It remains, though, that she's a teenager who does not fit any missing person description (unless she's a young woman, but I'd think the doctors could figure that out).

IA. I would think the LE would fingerprint her to see if they can come up with an ID through the system, as well. She may be a castaway rather than a runaway or 'missing person' or has been missing for many years? It appears from the report that she's had schooling - something about GED and able to pass the math part but she claims she doesn't remember history, etc.? Not sure they can force her to undergo a physical exam..do you know Scienter? or anyone? And, I wonder why the talk about the GED, if she's supposedly between 14-17? Seems they could place her somewhere and get her schooling? Wonder if it's some hoax, too. Didn't she tell them she thought her name was Amber? Then they figured she'd been on the street for some time. This is sad and strange. Hope they get it figured out for the poor girl.

jmo

j

[Jayne]

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet

I ran a search on all the missing "Ambers" if she is on that list I am leanign toward little Amber Crum. She had a birthday greeting of some sort written on her arm accordign to the article on cnn.com, little amber crum's birthday was 9-25-81.

My second pick would be Amber Nation, and third would be AMBER JEAN SWARTZ-GARCIA. What do you guys think?

This girl looks too young to be Garcia or Crum, I think..but has a not so close resemblance to Ferrante, Amber who went missing 9/29/09 and is 17. This girl's face looks fuller and nose larger - and as if she's chopped her own hair.

dunno

jmo j

[Amy S.]

I do know that homeless females sometimes try to make themselves look masculine, for safety reasons. I see many of them in Northern AZ.
Sometimes they are alone or with a BF.

The comment about the lack of dental care, must mean something.

The way teens are with all of their communication, someone should come forward soon that knows her.

I would see if she knows any cell phone numbers.

[Jayne]

I do know that homeless females sometimes try to make themselves look masculine, for safety reasons. I see many of them in Northern AZ.
Sometimes they are alone or with a BF.

The comment about the lack of dental care, must mean something.

The way teens are with all of their communication, someone should come forward soon that knows her.

I would see if she knows any cell phone numbers.

That makes sense, Amy (the short hair) and perhaps to not be easily identified. Wonder if the vice guys will be asking around the boroughs if anyone has seen her - as she looks now and in 'doctored up' drawings/photos. She could have been knocked around - on her head and have temporary amnesia? The scar that was mentioned should be helpful, and if it was a recent or long time (aged) scar?

jmo
j

[lune3]

NY is a big city. It seems nearly coincidental that she showed up on the sidewalk of Covenent House. It's reported that she was unresponsive, so it doesn't appear that she purposely went there for help. So why the coincidence that she should turn up precisely outside a known social service agency for at risk youth? I think it's possible she was brought there. Or, ..she's not telling the complete truth.

I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt, and hope a family member, or friend, comes forward.

I also wonder if she has any sort of regional accent, or is clearly a New Yorker.

[IAMME]

So I googled the story that she remembered the passage out of, and the names Rian and Amber and came up with another author, am trying to figure out if the two authors are similar enough that she could/would have read them both....Robin Hobb and Deborah Challinor, The second one appears to have a book series that have the characters Amber and Rian in them..

I agree that she looks too young to be either of those Ambers, however after Jaycee, I broadened the search criteria. The birthday message in japanese has got to be a clue, and I am leaning towards her being dropped at the location. If I am proven to be naive then so be it...

[IAMME]

This girl looks too young to be Garcia or Crum, I think..but has a not so close resemblance to Ferrante, Amber who went missing 9/29/09 and is 17. This girl's face looks fuller and nose larger - and as if she's chopped her own hair.

dunno

jmo j

Do you have a link to Amber Ferrante? I cant find anything using google and the missingkids.com site....

[Jayne]

Do you have a link to Amber Ferrante? I cant find anything using google and the missingkids.com site....

I used this one..the one posted upthread. I just put in Amber and female and white..and these came up. I was wrong with the name..Ferrantino..sorry. I figured by that thread it would come up and I had closed it and misspelled it. My apologies.

When to get to the site..just put in Amber for first name..then scroll..all the way down and fill in Female and White...

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet

j

[Jayne]

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I agree that she looks too young to be either of those Ambers, however after Jaycee, I broadened the search criteria. The birthday message in japanese has got to be a clue, and I am leaning towards her being dropped at the location. If I am proven to be naive then so be it...

ITA..the message on her arm means something and it may be a clue..to at least where she came from or was hanging out or who with.

It wasn't clear to me if the birthday message was about Her Birthday or the Birthday of the "friend" who wrote it on her. I've seen kids write on each other (OH..as a teacher..I hated it and wouldn't allow it around me.)..so I think it could go either way..her birthday or the person who wrote it. Or perhaps the "perp"..writing it..re-birthing her?? (I know..too dramatic..too Lethal Weapon stuff)

jmo

J

[IAMME]

I used this one..the one posted upthread. I just put in Amber and female and white..and these came up. I was wrong with the name..Ferrantino..sorry. I figured by that thread it would come up and I had closed it and misspelled it. My apologies.

When to get to the site..just put in Amber for first name..then scroll..all the way down and fill in Female and White...

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet

j

Thanks!!!!!!!

[withay]

The lack of dental care does not necessarily mean she has been on the street a long time either. Her home situation may just have been that dental care was not something that her parents/guardians took care of.
Especially if she is not amnesiac and just does not want to be found.

[IAMME]

When I goggle Amber Ferrantino it says "Amber Ferrantino has been recovered" and there is a myspace blog that says that, but all the other links are broken....grrrr.

[Amy S.]

Amber Ferrantino was recovered in March. Her site is down and I can't get it open.

[IAMME]

I know im prb stretching.....but she kinda looks like Natalee Holloway....

http://static.oprah.com/images/tows/200801/20080116/20080116_201_284x218.jpg

[Jayne]

Amber Ferrantino was recovered in March. Her site is down and I can't get it open.

Well..so much for that one..and glad she was recovered. Wonder why it's still up on that site? They need an up-dater.

It was Almost the only photo that I, at the time, could compare..but there are another two. Within two hours, I came up with 4 more..that was my last posting. Either I don't use the site right, or it just didn't come up..and after this information about Ferrantino..who knows how "old" this site is?

This girl could have been a runaway and got in with a group that fed her..used her..drugged her..beat her...abused her..then when they had enough..they dropped her off at that place. And, she may have never been listed as missing. And, they used the name Amber so that's what she would respond to and go by? And that marking on her body of a birthday..well...that could be something, or it could be nothing, if she's playing a game. If she is, then she should be in a CPS system somewhere as a runaway, troubled teen, wouldn't one think?

Maybe her dental care isn't great (that doesn't mean she was homeless, I agree)..she doesn't look terribly street worn in that photo, but maybe she was cleaned up.

I just hope they figure this out.

jmo

J

[Jayne]

I know im prb stretching.....but she kinda looks like Natalee Holloway....

http://static.oprah.com/images/tows/200801/20080116/20080116_201_284x218.jpg

actually..you're kinda right..the nose..but this girls face looks "blown up"..in comparison.

but so many people have similar noses..face shapes..

this girl looks much younger to me..I agree with the LE 14-17..but I've had friends at 25 or older who look that young..so I dunno.

jmo

j

[IAMME]

I just read in comments on a news story that "Amber" is one of the characters in the book series she quoted....

[IAMME]

http://www.girlsladies.com/gossip/could-this-girl-with-amnesia-be-a-long-missing-girl-from-missouri-kara-kopetsky/

NEW YORK – Police are investigating whether a woman who showed up in Manhattan two weeks ago with no memory of her family, home or ever her name could be Kara Kopetsky.

[n/t]

http://www.girlsladies.com/gossip/could-this-girl-with-amnesia-be-a-long-missing-girl-from-missouri-kara-kopetsky/

NEW YORK – Police are investigating whether a woman who showed up in Manhattan two weeks ago with no memory of her family, home or ever her name could be Kara Kopetsky.

Cpl. Peek with Belton police says that his department has been in touch with New York police and they are assisting in any way they can. However, he said they do not believe the girl in New York is Kara.

[withay]

http://www.girlsladies.com/gossip/could-this-girl-with-amnesia-be-a-long-missing-girl-from-missouri-kara-kopetsky/

NEW YORK – Police are investigating whether a woman who showed up in Manhattan two weeks ago with no memory of her family, home or ever her name could be Kara Kopetsky.

There is definitely a resemblance; especially around the mouth.

[Angels]

I found the pics of "Kara Kopetsky" but it seems that they are using another picture giving a (somewhat) profile shot. What about looking at other pictures such as the pics on this website:

http://www.friendsofsummer.com/Kopetsky_Kara3.JPG


There is a picture of Kara with a green shirt on, and it is a straight head shot. There are a lot of resemblances. Not saying this is "Kara" just saying go a step further than what someone thinks, do some forensics to make sure. A person's appearance changes over a period of two years. Esp, if they are being abused and beaten. This girl has been out in the weather for a while, says NY police department.

[R~O~S]

Why would a young girl engage in such a hoax? That's a true inquiry, I don't understand why such a young girl would do such a thing.

I can understand why people with history would. They'd run from their responsibilities, money or legal troubles & not remembering would make them free and clear, or so they may think. But not this young girl.

Surely she knows they'll put her picture out for broadcast, if she's a run away she'll be returned to where she belongs, which would be counter productive if you're a run away.

As a cast away she appears to be too old to go into the system & feigning amnesia isn't going to get her any more services than just being a homeless teen would get her.

[n/t]

I found the pics of "Kara Kopetsky" but it seems that they are using another picture giving a (somewhat) profile shot. What about looking at other pictures such as the pics on this website:

http://www.friendsofsummer.com/Kopetsky_Kara3.JPG


There is a picture of Kara with a green shirt on, and it is a straight head shot. There are a lot of resemblances. Not saying this is "Kara" just saying go a step further than what someone thinks, do some forensics to make sure. A person's appearance changes over a period of two years. Esp, if they are being abused and beaten. This girl has been out in the weather for a while, says NY police department.

Her stepfather and brother don't believe it's her. :shrug:

[n/t]

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I take it a "castaway" is a child who's been kicked out, scram, beat it, get lost, good riddance, etc. In which case, this would be a crime.

I'd guess LE would place her in court-ordered protective custody and then she would be a ward of the state and they could/would/should examine her.

I'd guess that LE would test her with GED, etc for several reasons. #1 - Try to determine any mental retardation or illness, #2 - Give her something to do for a few days while LE searches nationwide, #3 - Jog her memory about days in school (how she spent most of her time), #4 - Try to determine her age by her level of knowledge, and #5 - Uncover a hoax (which I think is why they mentioned her knowing math but not history, etc). She learned all subjects equally, and should probably remember them equally well. Doing poorly in history might indicate a hoax because it's not her life that she's not remembering but something read from a textbook. (She remembered words from a fantasy novel.)

I think LE is leaning toward hoax. But better this than on the streets.

JoAnn, can you help here with your LE background? Does anyone know the typical legal process involved with what authorities do with an amnesiac of any age? Seems like they could hold her as being a danger to herself or at least on vagrancy charges.

Why aren't school systems / truancy officers aware of her as missing? Maybe teachers, classmates, etc will recognize her.

Odd thing seems ... LE would notice if she had a non-NYC accent, and they would probably inform the public about it. So, she's apparently local, yet not missing.

Why do you say LE is leaning towards a hoax? All the articles I've read said they don't believe it is.

[IAMME]

It does look like Kara, if you look at both girls eyes the left is smaller on both and they are shaped the same.....

There is a pic of the girl in ny that I have ony seen twice, I read EVERY article last night.... once on a youtube video and another on a newstory that is different than the ones they keep showing and to me it looks more like Kara, in it her hair is REALLY spiked. I have to go to soccer but I'll look for a link later......

But I'm not sure, her family doesn't seem to think so. IF it is Kara, how horrible to not be recognized by her own family.

[n/t]

It does look like Kara, if you look at both girls eyes the left is smaller on both and they are shaped the same.....

There is a pic of the girl in ny that I have ony seen twice, I read EVERY article last night.... once on a youtube video and another on a newstory that is different than the ones they keep showing and to me it looks more like Kara, in it her hair is REALLY spiked. I have to go to soccer but I'll look for a link later......

But I'm not sure, her family doesn't seem to think so. IF it is Kara, how horrible to not be recognized by her own family.

Does Kara have blue eyes? They look brown to me.

Here are a couple of YOUTUBE videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GJeydku3Cg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1W-Y0YJJnk&feature=response_watch

[pixiejoolz]

It does look like Kara, if you look at both girls eyes the left is smaller on both and they are shaped the same.....

There is a pic of the girl in ny that I have ony seen twice, I read EVERY article last night.... once on a youtube video and another on a newstory that is different than the ones they keep showing and to me it looks more like Kara, in it her hair is REALLY spiked. I have to go to soccer but I'll look for a link later......

But I'm not sure, her family doesn't seem to think so. IF it is Kara, how horrible to not be recognized by her own family.

I just saw this thread and read through it. I have to believe the family knows what they are talking about, but the pictures of the two girls look incredibly similar to me. jmo

[Casspian]

Her stepfather and brother don't believe it's her. :shrug:

I don't know if they are mixing up the names here or not, but this article says Kara had a scar on her forehead

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/news/local/story/Could-A-Teen-with-Amnesia-Found-in-NY-Be-Kara/M7EgP_NZFUm7o-01H8QU9A.cspx

[LizzieCat]

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I said that I thought LE was "leaning" toward a hoax because they released the fact that she does well in math but not other subjects although she can easily retain the information. I do have my doubts. In any event, she is infinitely better where she is now than on the street.

That isn't evidence of a hoax.

Math is a skill. History is content that needs to be remembered. Different kinds of cognitive activities.

[Jayne]

She does resemble Kara..a lot, IMO.

jmo

J

[bhardy1956]

She does resemble Kara..a lot, IMO.

jmo

J


ITA! They look very much alike! You would think that the family of Kara would go check it out, I would if my child was missing and there was some resemblance.

[IAMME]

Not to get off track, but as a comparison, Dugard's cover of People magazine very much impressed me. The facial lines from her chin to her cheekbones show similarities although 18 years apart. Slightly narrower and more taut on her left side (our right), and slightly broader and smoother on her right side (our left).

I think that, when we see an earlier photo of Jane Doe, it will be obvious how she doesn't look like anyone else. In fact, I think it would behoove LE to release various photos of her: angles, lighting, facial expressions (especially one without the big smile), etc. One or two photos does honestly represent a stranger to others. Especially if she is short, to have views from slightly above looking down instead of a "mug shot" style photo.

http://image3.examiner.com/images/blog/EXID264/images/jaycedugard-peoplecover.jpg

http://www.momlogic.com/images/jayce-lee-dugard-more-photos.jpg


I agree, I have seen three pics of her so far one smiling and two not, but they are all pretty much alike......some candid shots would be great!! A full body shot, and a close up of her eye color too! And pictures of her scar, also it says on Kara's myspace she had her belly button pierced, I know that where I used to have mine I have a visible scar............Some computer generated pics of different hairstyles would be nice too....while I am wishing.

[IAMME]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnUpp812NOc

there is link to third pic...

[tootie]

I think she looks like Kara Kopetsky as well. But in the video of Kara on youtube it states that Kara has a scar on her forehead. Maybe this is why Kara's family doesn't believe it is her. Maybe the scar has been checked out and it isn't there.

[Jayne]

That isn't evidence of a hoax.

Math is a skill. History is content that needs to be remembered. Different kinds of cognitive activities.

Well, yeah..but a skill is learned. And, it needs to be remembered..or there is some innate ability that once learned, it isn't forgotten? Not sure I understand how math is a skill..that amnesia would not take away?

A talent is innate. Many have talent for music, language, math (and probably others)..but no one is born with a skill..they learn it.

Not arguing with you..but being a musician and a math major (long before) - it came easily as an innate ability, I think, to grasp the logic, spatial, etc. but I still had to learn the formulas and how to apply them..to math and music and law. The innate ability is wonderful, but the skill is learned, imo. Remembering facts from history, social studies..yes..not the same as math, but it is still an ability to retain information.

This is interesting.

jmo

J

[tootie]

Also on Kara's website http://www.findkarakopetsky.com/index.html scroll down to the 24th paragraph On April 24, Kara wrote: "So life hasn't been the greatest for me lately, over the last 9 months of my life iv dedicated my life to kylr … I made no other time for any of my friends nor my family. over those 9 months i forgot the person that I was. im trying to find that person again."



All I got to say is wow on the last 2 sentences in the paragraph. They should totally rule out if this is Kara or not. Especially with such a resemblance.

[fastpitch]

Do you remember when Elizabeth Smart's dad first saw her at the PD. He said that he couldn't recognize her. He had to say "Elizabeth, is that you?"

If there is any chance someone knows this girl, they could talk to her on the phone and see if it is Kara.

[Jayne]

Also on Kara's website http://www.findkarakopetsky.com/index.html scroll down to the 24th paragraph

All I got to say is wow on the last 2 sentences in the paragraph. They should totally rule out if this is Kara or not. Especially with such a resemblance.



no kidding...

I think there is a great possibility that this girl is Kara.

[IAMME]

Will someone else please zoom in on Jane Doe's eyes and tell me what you think about the color???

[tootie]

Will someone else please zoom in on Jane Doe's eyes and tell me what you think about the color???

Sorry I don't know how to do that otherwise I would.

[fastpitch]

You know, when I looked at Jane Doe, I thought - that young lady has had braces. Now, I see that picture of Kara with braces.

Oh, well, it must not be Kara or her family would go see.

[fastpitch]

I was able to drag the pic to my desk top and enlarge the pupils, but I can't get any better color, than what you can already see.

[tootie]

You know, when I looked at Jane Doe, I thought - that young lady has had braces. Now, I see that picture of Kara with braces.

Oh, well, it must not be Kara or her family would go see.

I see Casspian had mentioned the scar on the forehead being in an article. This has to be how they have ruled out it's not Kara. Good grief they do have an uncanny resemblance though.

[Wallie]

Girl who didn't remember herself identified.

She is an 18 year old who was reported missing earlier this month on the West Coast.

Source: http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=7081242

[tootie]

Edited because Wallie beat me to it.

Odd they don't give her name in that article?

[IAMME]

I see Casspian had mentioned the scar on the forehead being in an article. This has to be how they have ruled out it's not Kara. Good grief they do have an uncanny resemblance though.

I cant see any scar on any of Kara's pics. Prb why she wore her bangs the way she did, however, if we cant see Kara's scar in her multiple pics it seems like a lousy way to ID someone based on only three pics....And after zooming on those eyes I just dont see any blue, which may be the light, or false reporting, or a clerical mistake.....I just really hope they figure out who she is.

[IAMME]

I see Casspian had mentioned the scar on the forehead being in an article. This has to be how they have ruled out it's not Kara. Good grief they do have an uncanny resemblance though.

I cant see any scar on any of Kara's pics. Prb why she wore her bangs the way she did, however, if we cant see Kara's scar in her multiple pics it seems like a lousy way to ID someone based on only three pics....And after zooming on those eyes I just dont see any blue, which may be the light, or false reporting, or a clerical mistake.....I just really hope they figure out who she is.

I have also seen in comments on the news stories ppl comparing her to Morgan Nick....she does look a bit like the age progressed photos, and a little like Morgan's mother Colleen.

[tootie]

I cant see any scar on any of Kara's pics. Prb why she wore her bangs the way she did, however, if we cant see Kara's scar in her multiple pics it seems like a lousy way to ID someone based on only three pics....And after zooming on those eyes I just dont see any blue, which may be the light, or false reporting, or a clerical mistake.....I just really hope they figure out who she is.

I have also seen in comments on the news stories ppl comparing her to Morgan Nick....she does look a bit like the age progressed photos, and a little like Morgan's mother Colleen.

They have identified her, see Wallie's post.

[R~O~S]

Girl who didn't remember herself identified.

She is an 18 year old who was reported missing earlier this month on the West Coast.

Source: http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=7081242


I'm glad they've found her family. I wonder if we'll ever know how she got from the West Coast to NYC & if she really has amnesia, what the trauma was that caused it?

[Wallie]

Sorry about that tootie! Yes, I agree, it is odd that they didn't mention her name or anything else.

R~O~S....they better tell us what happened!

[fastpitch]

We could probably figure out who was missing in CA. I wonder why the authorities didn't post the picture 2 weeks ago?

[Wallie]

She's from Washington state.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/24/teen.jane.doe/index.html?iref=mpstoryview (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/24/teen.jane.doe/index.html?iref=mpstoryview)

[n/t]

Wow...she was reported missing earlier this month? Odd that we didn't see anything about a missing 18 year old girl in Washington State. I wonder if it's because she was considered a runaway?

How in the world did she end up on the East Coast? :confused:

Glad she's ok. Her family must be relieved.

[n/t]

Washington State Missing Persons :shrug:

http://www.waspc.org/mp/missing.php

Depressing to see so many missing. This is just the 12-19 age group.

[Santa'sMom]

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I said that I thought LE was "leaning" toward a hoax because they released the fact that she does well in math but not other subjects although she can easily retain the information. I do have my doubts. In any event, she is infinitely better where she is now than on the street.

I would do well in math but history, geography, etc., forget it. Math works in a whole different area of the brain.

I'm happy to learn that her identity has been discovered and I hope that all works out for her.

[need2no]

Washington State Missing Persons :shrug:

http://www.waspc.org/mp/missing.php

Depressing to see so many missing. This is just the 12-19 age group.

Hey n/t, I agree very depressing, especially since most were believed to be runaways. I looked through everyone of those pics last night and didn't see any female teen missing from Washington State. Strange huh.

[merical]

I looked at that site and put in the following search criteria....eyes: blue, age:18, Female and came up with a Samantha Bowman missing from Pierce County. She'd been missing about a month, I think....no photo, though, and I can't find anything else about her. Maybe I misread it? I don't know.

[R~O~S]

no, you didn't misread it, I found the same thing, no picture and no indication they considered her endangered, just missing. I tried to find any media account of an investigation into it and found nothing.

[n/t]

To add to the confusion, this article says that LE believe she's been on the streets for some time so maybe she's been missing for a while.

A CNN viewer from Maryland identified her.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/24/teen.jane.doe/index.html

[concerned]

Ugh....so aggravating that they're not releasing her name~ They ask for the publics help, and then don't feed our interest, hehe:laugh:

[n/t]

Ugh....so aggravating that they're not releasing her name~ They ask for the publics help, and then don't feed our interest, hehe:laugh:

No kidding!!! Sheesh. I think we deserve to know.

[LizzieCat]

No kidding!!! Sheesh. I think we deserve to know.

If she's a juvenile and there is something else involved with her circumstances, we don't deserve to know and there may be legal reasons they are withholding her name, even though they released her picture and people can search Washington missing persons reports. There may have been reasons why she wasn't even reported missing. We may never know if there are juvenile protection policies in place.

She deserves to get her life back. I hope her family isn't abusive.

[Jayne]

If she's a juvenile and there is something else involved with her circumstances, we don't deserve to know and there may be legal reasons they are withholding her name, even though they released her picture and people can search Washington missing persons reports. There may have been reasons why she wasn't even reported missing. We may never know if there are juvenile protection policies in place.

She deserves to get her life back. I hope her family isn't abusive.

I agree. Glad they found her identity and located her family, and that she is going back with them, hopefully - and yes, as you stated, hope the family isn't abusive. Plus, hope she was not abused during the time she has been "missing." I am surprised that she was not reported missing, however.

Just thinking - if I had a child who had run away, even if 18, I wouldn't want her name or specific location spread in the media. I'd be afraid some perv. could use the information to prey upon a kid who has runaway and may be an easy target to lure away.

jmo
j

[Maelstrom5]

Cpl. Peek with Belton police says that his department has been in touch with New York police and they are assisting in any way they can. However, he said they do not believe the girl in New York is Kara.

I had to chuckle at many of the comments posted at the local ABC channel. Kara has been missing for 2 1/2 years- Have none of them ever googled her NCMEC poster? Kara has Hazel eyes- Not Blue. She has naturally Brown hair- Not blonde. And Kara looks nothing like the girl from New York. The press picked the one picture of Kara which had a slight resemblance and left out the twenty or so others that look nothing like New York’s Jane Doe and a number of locals bit.

If you want to find out what happened to Kara don’t look to New York or Cancun, Mexico. Look to Belton, MO. and neighboring towns. Don’t look for needles in a haystack, look for someone who had motive, someone who has a known record of physical violence, someone that Kara knew.

[Casspian]

That isn't evidence of a hoax.

Math is a skill. History is content that needs to be remembered. Different kinds of cognitive activities.

Doing well in math and analytical skills vs ave verbal skills and such can be a sign of a learning disability/dyslexia - I don't like to say that because I have tests come back this way and I don't see myself as having a learning disability, I just think differently!

[Casspian]

She's from Washington state.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/24/teen.jane.doe/index.html?iref=mpstoryview (http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/24/teen.jane.doe/index.html?iref=mpstoryview)

Makes me wonder if the parents might have reported she traveled somewhere and then they never heard from her after a certain point?

[nothingnew]

No kidding!!! Sheesh. I think we deserve to know.

She's been identified as Kacie Peterson from Kitsap.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010135633_webmissingteen25m.html#

[Casspian]

Just reported missing on Oct. 2

http://www.waspc.org/MP/missing.php?wac=09M0017942

[Leanne Weich]

Seems she was living with her late mom's friend and has disappeared once before and was found lying on the ground and had no recollection of how she got there. I wonder if this is somehow related to trauma connected to her mom's death. This info. from nothingnew's link.

[n/t]

She's been identified as Kacie Peterson from Kitsap.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2010135633_webmissingteen25m.html#

Thank you !

[n/t]

Seems she was living with her late mom's friend and has disappeared once before and was found lying on the ground and had no recollection of how she got there. I wonder if this is somehow related to trauma connected to her mom's death. This info. from nothingnew's link.

Or some other medical condition? I hope they get her medical help before something horrible happens to her. She was very lucky.

[IAMME]

Or some other medical condition? I hope they get her medical help before something horrible happens to her. She was very lucky.

If she were my daughter I would STRONGLY encourage her to have, at least, her name tatooed on her body when she is well again.

[Jayne]

If she were my daughter I would STRONGLY encourage her to have, at least, her name tatooed on her body when she is well again.

Indeed..and perhaps having a "long chain" (as in medical care, etc.). This is a Very Sad Case..if this young and pretty woman is wandering around and doesn't remember things. What happened to her while she was gone? Will anyone figure it out? Abducted (probably not)? Hitched a ride (most likely). Flew off with a boyfriend? (very well, perhaps?) Had some money..and just decided to take a bus or a flight?

WHY didn't anyone realize she was missing from her "home"? The father did, apparently..but by then she was already (or almost) in NYC?

Her poor mother is deceased...(from what I've read)...What Happened Here? Why is she living with someone other than her father?

Guess, I/we will never know..

jmo

J

[Casspian]

Indeed..and perhaps having a "long chain" (as in medical care, etc.). This is a Very Sad Case..if this young and pretty woman is wandering around and doesn't remember things. What happened to her while she was gone? Will anyone figure it out? Abducted (probably not)? Hitched a ride (most likely). Flew off with a boyfriend? (very well, perhaps?) Had some money..and just decided to take a bus or a flight?

WHY didn't anyone realize she was missing from her "home"? The father did, apparently..but by then she was already (or almost) in NYC?

Her poor mother is deceased...(from what I've read)...What Happened Here? Why is she living with someone other than her father?

Guess, I/we will never know..

jmo

J



I don't know the link I gave above said she was last seen on Oct 1 and reported missing on Oct 2.

Also, was she found on Oct 7?

[Casspian]

Police: 'Jane Doe' emptied bank account before surfacing in NYC

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/26/teen.jane.doe/

The teen who mysteriously turned up in New York with apparent amnesia emptied her bank account and left behind "everything" before she left her home in Washington, police told CNN.

The woman, now identified as Kacie Aleece Peterson, 18, of Hansville, Washington, withdrew about $400 from her Bank of America account, said Scott Wilson, spokesman for the Kitsap County Sheriff's Office in Washington.

But Peterson "left everything," including her wallet, identification, cell phone, clothes and even her bike, which was secured outside a Wal-Mart, Wilson said.

And...

The last time she showed up for class was on September 29, Case said.

The next time some employees of the school saw the student she was sporting a new look.

"The school here is telling me she had long hair past her shoulders," Case said. In the photo New York police showed of the teen during their investigation to identify her, Kacie Peterson had hair that looked only about a couple of inches long on top and tapered low on the sides.

[Casspian]

http://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_102609WAB_amnesia-girl-bank-account-JM.254328e56.html

According to investigators, after vanishing Peterson took cash from her bank account, spent money at a WalMart in Poulsbo, bought some items at a Thriftway in Kingston and then left her bike outside an Albertson's grocery store in Kingston. That is where the financial trail stopped.

[Casspian]

I don't know the link I gave above said she was last seen on Oct 1 and reported missing on Oct 2.

Also, was she found on Oct 7?

This article says "showed up at the door of a Times Square shelter on October 9th"

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2009/10/18-year_old_kacie_peterson_ide.php

[doradoll]

aww...it says when she found out her dad was coming to visit, she left town

and her mom is deceased

sad all the way around, no matter the truth of it

[Casspian]

aww...it says when she found out her dad was coming to visit, she left town

and her mom is deceased

sad all the way around, no matter the truth of it

Geez, I missed that part. He said they were having a difficult relationship, but leaving town because he's coming to visit? And purposefully not taking ID (maybe)?

[Jayne]

aww...it says when she found out her dad was coming to visit, she left town

and her mom is deceased

sad all the way around, no matter the truth of it



Well..no matter about her "memory problems", it seems this girl did not want to be around her father..whether for abuse reasons or grief (over her mother's death)..it is an ISSUE, IMO. If when her mother died, they did not get grief counseling and it turned into this..then..so sad for her and so be it..for Dad, in a sense.

I'd think she is grieving horribly..and with whatever other issues she has. But WHY didn't the Guardian have an APB out about her? This is very confusing to me. Was it..a bandaid..place for her to stay because Dad couldn't or didn't know how to deal with it..and this friend was someone who she could stay with? And just because she'd walk off now and then and not remember, they didn't do anything for a few days? Makes no sense to me at all. If someone "gave" their child to me..to take care of, I'd be NUTS wondering where they were if they didn't come home at the right time.

I can't wrap myself around this..I can never imagine my father sending me somewhere else to live when my Mom died (had that been the case)...so this little girl must have had a lot going on emotionally. I'd want to forget it too.

So so sad. But very glad that she has been found and HOPEFULLY in good hands (BUT, I wonder).

jmo

J

[lune3]

I feel very sorry for Kacie too. We don't know exactly when her mom died, and we don't know if she may have had a long lingering illness before that. Was she sent to her dad's at some point because her mom couldn't care for her? Wasn't it reported that she left the dad to go live with her mom's friend in June? As for "poor academic performance", no wonder! The poor girl was emotionally a mess I expect.

I can't help but think that her amnesia (both occasions) were a result of such psychological distress that her psyche may have caused her to "forget" as a means of self preservation.
Also, chopping off her hair..I've heard of cases where women do this during extreme grief, signifying a sort of "I'm no longer who I was".

I may be totally off here, but my feeling is that this poor girl needs a compassionate and very good therapist, ..and grief counseling. She may have had no one to talk to, no one to cry with.

[Jayne]

I feel very sorry for Kacie too. We don't know exactly when her mom died, and we don't know if she may have had a long lingering illness before that. Was she sent to her dad's at some point because her mom couldn't care for her? Wasn't it reported that she left the dad to go live with her mom's friend in June? As for "poor academic performance", no wonder! The poor girl was emotionally a mess I expect.

I can't help but think that her amnesia (both occasions) were a result of such psychological distress that her psyche may have caused her to "forget" as a means of self preservation.
Also, chopping off her hair..I've heard of cases where women do this during extreme grief, signifying a sort of "I'm no longer who I was".

I may be totally off here, but my feeling is that this poor girl needs a compassionate and very good therapist, ..and grief counseling. She may have had no one to talk to, no one to cry with.

I do not think you are "off"..whether your opinions or mine are correct..who knows? I chopped off my LONG locks..when I was "in grief"..not that I was no longer who I was..but in a sense, yes. Plus..another poster wrote, and I understand it, that women on the street will do that to appear more masculine (safe).

This girl, I believe..as do you..needs really careful care and figuring out her "memory problems" an indeed grief counseling. Yes..she may have No One to Cry and Grieve With. I've been there..even recently..it's a very solitary and sad place to be..but as adults, we can learn to deal with it easier than a teen.

jmo

J

[juliekan]

sounds like dad coming to visit may have been the point where she started freaking out, and the first thing i thought of after reading the above posts was "fugue"


fugue
[fyo̅o̅g]
Etymology: L, fuga, running away
a state of dissociative reaction characterized by amnesia and physical flight from an intolerable situation. During the episode the person appears normal and seems consciously aware of what may be very complex activities and behavior, but afterward he or she has no recollection of the actions or behavior. The condition may last for only a few days or weeks, or it may continue for several years, during which the person wanders away from the customary environment, enters a new occupation, and undertakes an entirely different way of life. The syndrome appears to be caused by an inability to cope with a severe conflict or with a chronically stressful life situation. A form of fugue also occurs briefly after an epileptic seizure.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fugue

[kelloggirl]

sounds like dad coming to visit may have been the point where she started freaking out, and the first thing i thought of after reading the above posts was "fugue"


fugue
[fyo̅o̅g]
Etymology: L, fuga, running away
a state of dissociative reaction characterized by amnesia and physical flight from an intolerable situation. During the episode the person appears normal and seems consciously aware of what may be very complex activities and behavior, but afterward he or she has no recollection of the actions or behavior. The condition may last for only a few days or weeks, or it may continue for several years, during which the person wanders away from the customary environment, enters a new occupation, and undertakes an entirely different way of life. The syndrome appears to be caused by an inability to cope with a severe conflict or with a chronically stressful life situation. A form of fugue also occurs briefly after an epileptic seizure.

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fugue

That sounds very much like what might have happened. I feel really sorry for Kacie, and hopes that she finds the counseling and more importantly, the compassion and nurturing and understanding that she needs to heal after the death of her mother. :rose: