Thursday, October 22nd

[FrankieBones1]

Reminder for Today

Ronald Cummings will be on Maury's show today at 1pm Eastern.

[luvmyboys]

Reminder for Today

Ronald Cummings will be on Maury's show today at 1pm Eastern.

morning Frankie! :wub:

[Elle]

Good morning everyone and thank you Frankie for the new thread and the reminder. Maury is on at 10am eastern where I am.

http://www.mauryshow.com/
you can check local times here.

[FrankieBones1]

Good Morning, Luv and Elle.
Thanks for the heads up on the am listings. Found it on Shaw Direct at 10am on Omni1.

[Zeep]

Good Morning everybody.

Thanks for the reminder about the Maury show. I'm looking forward to watching it.

[tia marie]

Good Morning everybody.

Thanks for the reminder about the Maury show. I'm looking forward to watching it.

Imo, isn't Ron's appearance on the Maury show rather outdated now after Misty's latest caper? Personally, I'd prefer to hear Ron's reaction to Misty's latest stunt.

[Zeep]

Imo, isn't Ron's appearance on the Maury show rather outdated now after Misty's latest caper? Personally, I'd prefer to hear Ron's reaction to Misty's latest stunt.

Maury's show is about Missing Children. There will be other parents of missing children on there as well.

It's not about Misty's antics. I guess you'll have to catch Misty updates on JVM or NG.

[tia marie]

Maury's show is about Missing Children. There will be other parents of missing children on there as well.

It's not about Misty's antics. I guess you'll have to catch Misty updates on JVM or NG.

"Misty's antics" most likely are paramount to what happened to Haleigh. So yes, if it takes JVM or NG to cover Misty's behavior, I'm all for watching them.

moo

[Zeep]

"Misty's antics" most likely are paramount to what happened to Haleigh. So yes, if it takes JVM or NG to cover Misty's behavior, I'm all for watching them.

moo

Good for you.

I don't believe Misty's latest antics have anything directly to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

I also believe it would be an injustice to Haleigh, and the other missing children and their parents, to spend the hour discussing Misty being robbed the other night while trying to buy drugs.

The discussion, from what I understand will be about missing children. Hopefully someone will watch this show and maybe recognize one of these children, which could lead to finding them.

That won't happen if Misty's mug stays on the TV screen the entire time.

[Chica]

Good morning everyone and thank you Frankie for the new thread and the reminder. Maury is on at 10am eastern where I am.

http://www.mauryshow.com/
you can check local times here.

Thanks, just turned it on. Did I miss Ron?

[teresa]

Thanks, just turned it on. Did I miss Ron?

He's not been on yet.

[Zeep]

Maury comes on at 4pm here.. same time as Oprah. I set it to record just in case I'm not home.

O/T The past couple of days Dr. Phil had some of Marcus Wesson's children on his show. I didn't follow that case. They kids were pitiful.

[FrankieBones1]

There goes the once friendly tone of this thread.

Just checking in to let everyone know that Ronald Cummings hasn't been shown on Maury's program yet. I believe that Ronald is on Maury's to speak about his daughter and not Misty's 'antics' whether prior to Haleigh going missing or afterwards.

imo

[Chica]

Good for you.

I don't believe Misty's latest antics have anything directly to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

I also believe it would be an injustice to Haleigh, and the other missing children and their parents, to spend the hour discussing Misty being robbed the other night while trying to buy drugs.

The discussion, from what I understand will be about missing children. Hopefully someone will watch this show and maybe recognize one of these children, which could lead to finding them.

That won't happen if Misty's mug stays on the TV screen the entire time.

I agree with you Zeep. I am just sick of Misty. My only hope is that she gets arrested for a stupid move and is grilled by LE. She need to be behind bars to shake the truth loose. A cell with GGS would be just fine with me. She'll get the truth out of her !

[FrankieBones1]

Good for you.

I don't believe Misty's latest antics have anything directly to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

I also believe it would be an injustice to Haleigh, and the other missing children and their parents, to spend the hour discussing Misty being robbed the other night while trying to buy drugs.
The discussion, from what I understand will be about missing children. Hopefully someone will watch this show and maybe recognize one of these children, which could lead to finding them.

That won't happen if Misty's mug stays on the TV screen the entire time.

Bolded by me....
Thanks, Zeep and excellent post!

[Chica]

He's not been on yet.

Thanks so much. Watching now.

[Zeep]

There goes the once friendly tone of this thread.

Just checking in to let everyone know that Ronald Cummings hasn't been shown on Maury's program yet. I believe that Ronald is on Maury's to speak about his daughter and not Misty's 'antics' whether prior to Haleigh going missing or afterwards.

imo


I apologize if I brought the thread down. It wasn't my intention. If I can, I'd like to blame it on frustration.

Anyway.. I'm sorry. :sad:

[FrankieBones1]

Good Morning everybody.

Thanks for the reminder about the Maury show. I'm looking forward to watching it.

Just saw a snippet of it before the break. You could hear the audience react to Ronald Cumming's tears and words. This is going to be a hard one to watch.

[FrankieBones1]

I apologize if I brought the thread down. It wasn't my intention. If I can, I'd like to blame it on frustration.

Anyway.. I'm sorry. :sad:

It wasn't you at all.

It looks like Haleigh's case won't be on until the last few moments of the show.

[Elle]

Just got back, saw Robert Romero's mom and sister. Absolutely heartbreaking. Not knowing....how absolutely horriffic. Praying for a miracle for that family. Ron is coming up, I agree Frankie, it is going to be hard to watch.

[Texas48]

There goes the once friendly tone of this thread.

Just checking in to let everyone know that Ronald Cummings hasn't been shown on Maury's program yet. I believe that Ronald is on Maury's to speak about his daughter and not Misty's 'antics' whether prior to Haleigh going missing or afterwards.

imo
I so hope no one/audiance asks or brings up the subject of Misty on the show....This should be ALL ABOUT HaLeigh....she has been* set aside* way too many times in this case..IMO
Thank you for the reminder sis...............................

[FrankieBones1]

Ronald and his Mom both are on the show. Maury goes through the history, narrating and using a video produced by using actors to re-enact the events. Maury also shows some old home videos of Haleigh.

Teresa has Misty's doll on her lap as she explains Turner Syndrome to the audience. Ron is crying, too. Both have real tears streaming from their eyes.

[Elle]

OMG

Heartbreaking.

:rose:

[FrankieBones1]

I so hope no one/audiance asks or brings up the subject of Misty on the show....This should be ALL ABOUT HaLeigh....she has been* set aside* way too many times in this case..IMO
Thank you for the reminder sis...............................

No one in the audience has had the nerve so far to ask about Misty. There's ten minutes left in the show.

[Texas48]

I apologize if I brought the thread down. It wasn't my intention. If I can, I'd like to blame it on frustration.

Anyway.. I'm sorry. :sad:
don't apologize for something you didn't do Zeep...I see NOTHING in ANY of your post but care and concern for little HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings...
I believe there is frustration in all of us....*die-hards* here day in and day out...searching for any news we can get on this baby girl...then we get the *players* with their antics which causes more frustration...with all that said....it is all the mess that is keeping her name in the news.....what a shame...IMO.:sad:

[Texas48]

Just saw a snippet of it before the break. You could hear the audience react to Ronald Cumming's tears and words. This is going to be a hard one to watch.
Oh Deer Franki....Maybe I should NOT watch and just read about the show from the board...:sad:

[panman]

Good for you.

I don't believe Misty's latest antics have anything directly to do with Haleigh's disappearance.

I also believe it would be an injustice to Haleigh, and the other missing children and their parents, to spend the hour discussing Misty being robbed the other night while trying to buy drugs.

The discussion, from what I understand will be about missing children. Hopefully someone will watch this show and maybe recognize one of these children, which could lead to finding them.

That won't happen if Misty's mug stays on the TV screen the entire time.

Repeating. Thanks zeep. Haleigh and other missing children ARE the topic of the show.

[Elle]

Oh Deer Franki....Maybe I should NOT watch and just read about the show from the board...:sad:

Their pain was palpable, it was hard to watch.

[Texas48]

The concert was held at a private ranch...*OO Ranch* outside of Austin....This is STILL all I can find...did a search on owner of the ranch but nothing to post about.......

http://eventful.com/austin/events/benefit-concert-missiing-child-haleigh-cummings-/E0-001-023531080-5

http://haleighbenefitconcert.eventbrite.com/?ref=estw

[Tracian]

Their pain was palpable, it was hard to watch.

I have a couple of hours before Maury comes on here; I hope it is this show, and not the one that my info bar is showing.

[Kathlb]

The concert was held at a private ranch...*OO Ranch* outside of Austin....This is STILL all I can find...did a search on owner of the ranch but nothing to post about.......

http://eventful.com/austin/events/benefit-concert-missiing-child-haleigh-cummings-/E0-001-023531080-5

http://haleighbenefitconcert.eventbrite.com/?ref=estw

I lived in Austin for quite awhile and have been through Bastrop many times. This was really terrific of him to do this for Crystal and Haleigh's family.

[Elle]

The concert was held at a private ranch...*OO Ranch* outside of Austin....This is STILL all I can find...did a search on owner of the ranch but nothing to post about.......

http://eventful.com/austin/events/benefit-concert-missiing-child-haleigh-cummings-/E0-001-023531080-5

http://haleighbenefitconcert.eventbrite.com/?ref=estw


Justice4all posted this link last night

http://www.samwatkinscountry.com/Shows_and_Events.html

Here is a writeup on the benefit, though there really is not much info about the benefit itself. Crystal and Marie went along with Crystals sister, they met Tim there.

[Texas48]

I have a couple of hours before Maury comes on here; I hope it is this show, and not the one that my info bar is showing.
On my TV listings it shows the first *Maury* show discussing over weight children and then the second is *Missing Children*...
I never knew Maury was on several times a day...learn something new every day..LOL

[CANDYKISSES]

Maury's show is about Missing Children. There will be other parents of missing children on there as well.

It's not about Misty's antics. I guess you'll have to catch Misty updates on JVM or NG.

Hey Zeep, you forgot to include the rumor blogs. It's always easy to pick up some dirt, but not so much on the truth IMO. :sneaky:

It's important to remember the child who is missing vs the antics of players in the ongoing saga from my point of view. :wub: 4 HaLeigh.

[Texas48]

Justice4all posted this link last night

http://www.samwatkinscountry.com/Shows_and_Events.html

Here is a writeup on the benefit, though there really is not much info about the benefit itself. Crystal and Marie went along with Crystals sister, they met Tim there.
Thanks Elle..I had read the link posted by Justice but was determined to find out where this concert was held as I had been searching for last couple of months for the location with no luck...reason being..it was held at a private ranch..

[W_D_1]

I have a couple of hours before Maury comes on here; I hope it is this show, and not the one that my info bar is showing.



Morning Tracian. Check your local listings. Maury is on twice here and it's the second episode that has Ron on at 5pm. The morning show (10am) had paternity results.

[FrankieBones1]

Thanks Elle..I had read the link posted by Justice but was determined to find out where this concert was held as I had been searching for last couple of months for the location with no luck...reason being..it was held at a private ranch..

It was held at the OO Ranch. The band is called the Fate Train. I see the group leader has started a brand new website. Much of it is still under construction. He does say that there will be a video of the benefit concert available soon. Hope this helps.

[Justice4all]

Morning Tracian. Check your local listings. Maury is on twice here and it's the second episode that has Ron on at 5pm. The morning show (10am) had paternity results.

Only once here and it's the paternity results. I hope they have it online or on youtube later :crying:

[Lynn Gweeny]

Haleigh Cummings – PCSO Has New E-mail Tip Line

According to the article, PCSO is receiving a high volume of tips and leads in the search for missing 6 year old Haleigh Cummings.

http://www.bloggernews.net/122718

[Chica]

I have a couple of hours before Maury comes on here; I hope it is this show, and not the one that my info bar is showing.

My info said Missing Children. I only saw about 1 minute of the Cumming's, my dad stopped over. Maybe it will be on again later. What I did see of Ron and Teresa, my heart was breaking for them.:crying:

[Chica]

Justice4all posted this link last night

http://www.samwatkinscountry.com/Shows_and_Events.html

Here is a writeup on the benefit, though there really is not much info about the benefit itself. Crystal and Marie went along with Crystals sister, they met Tim there.

Thanks so much Justice and Elle. I am glad to hear something about it.
And TM showing up was a plus, too.

[KatieLady]

Haleigh Cummings – PCSO Has New E-mail Tip Line

According to the article, PCSO is receiving a high volume of tips and leads in the search for missing 6 year old Haleigh Cummings.

http://www.bloggernews.net/122718

Every time I see in print "HaLeigh has been missing for 8 months" my heart just breaks. I just can't imagine......

:sad:

Hope this new email leads to something!

[Elle]

Thanks so much Justice and Elle. I am glad to hear something about it.
And TM showing up was a plus, too.

Yea, it was good to finally see something, though I wish there were more info on the benefit itself included in the writeup. It was good of Tim to go, he wasn't too far away, a little over 2 hours. I was suprised that they had not met him when they were all in Satsuma in Feb.

[W_D_1]

Every time I see in print "HaLeigh has been missing for 8 months" my heart just breaks. I just can't imagine......

:sad:

Hope this new email leads to something!


I'm afraid it's just going to spawn more "angry women trying to get their exes in trouble" than real tips.

[VenusFlyTrap]

Imo, isn't Ron's appearance on the Maury show rather outdated now after Misty's latest caper? Personally, I'd prefer to hear Ron's reaction to Misty's latest stunt.

Are you kidding? Isn't this about HaLeigh, she is the one missing.. not Misty. Seems that quite a few care more about what Misty is up to than a missing little girl.. what a shame.

[just4justice]

Are you kidding? Isn't this about HaLeigh, she is the one missing.. not Misty. Seems that quite a few care more about what Misty is up to than a missing little girl.. what a shame.

Respectfully, I believe everyone on this board has Haleigh's best interests in their hearts and minds, but we all still remember that Misty is the key to finding out what happened that night. That doesn't minimize anyone's thoughts and feelings about Haleigh. We all want to know what Misty has told Ron and we all want to know her entire story (the real one).

[Chica]

Imo, isn't Ron's appearance on the Maury show rather outdated now after Misty's latest caper? Personally, I'd prefer to hear Ron's reaction to Misty's latest stunt.

Outdated? Not at all...Haleigh is still missing !!! :scared:

[Tracian]

I caught Maury's show.

Heartbreaking stories, I hope that Robert is found, 9 years and his mother lost a son and her husband in that time.

So much pain in the eyes of the guests on today's show; just heart breaking.

I wonder, is there a support group for families of missing people that have not been found?

[dustyk]

Yea, it was good to finally see something, though I wish there were more info on the benefit itself included in the writeup. It was good of Tim to go, he wasn't too far away, a little over 2 hours. I was suprised that they had not met him when they were all in Satsuma in Feb.
IIRC Tim Miller was in Satsuma at TN's request, Crystal doesn't live there. I am sure she distanced herself from the LDT Misty was taking. JMO

[Lynn Gweeny]

Haleigh Cummings Case featured on Maury Air Date 10/22/09 (4:55)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK8oenktrOg

[Unleashed]

Imo, isn't Ron's appearance on the Maury show rather outdated now after Misty's latest caper? Personally, I'd prefer to hear Ron's reaction to Misty's latest stunt.

How could Ron's appearance on Maury be 'outdated'?
Has HaLeigh been found?

jmo

[W_D_1]

Can someone post a link for me that states Misty was buying drugs? TIA
Nothing I've read mentioned a particular person buying drugs. Only the rumor mill keeps saying it was Misty.


One woman later told police she let a friend out at a housing project where she said she wanted to buy drugs. According to a police report we’ve also put up, the driver said she was only taking another friend and Misty, who both wanted to score.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/21/misty-cummings-new-911-call-robbed-when-drug-deal-went-bad/#


I couldn't read the police report but if what Art says about it is true then the driver allegedly said both Misty and the other friend wanted to buy drugs. If that is in the police report then it isn't just "the rumor mill".

ETA I just went and looked again and the driver does say that Misty and the other girl were there to buy drugs. Its the last sentence of the report and hard to read.

[W_D_1]

Thank you for the link.
I however don't personally think Art H is a dependable source. I will try to look at the police report too.



I don't believe Art unless it is verified by other sources. In this case the police report verifies what he said.

[Elle]

IIRC Tim Miller was in Satsuma at TN's request, Crystal doesn't live there. I am sure she distanced herself from the LDT Misty was taking. JMO

Hi dusty. I referenced Feb., when they were all in Satsuma. Ron and Crystal had each set up camps and TES was searching. I had thought that they had met and was surprised to find out otherwise.
imoo

[Justice4all]

Thank you for the link.
I however don't personally think Art H is a dependable source. I will try to look at the police report too.

is this good?

Police: Misty Cummings robbed trying to buy drugs
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-misty-cummings-robbed-102009,0,4809536.story

[Kathlb]

is this good?

Police: Misty Cummings robbed trying to buy drugs
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-misty-cummings-robbed-102009,0,4809536.story

Am I all wet or isn't it illegal to purchase drugs from a seller? If so and using the person's statement who said they were there to buy drugs, couldn't they arrest Misty and "lean" on her a bit concerning other things?

[Texas48]

Hi dusty. I referenced Feb., when they were all in Satsuma. Ron and Crystal had each set up camps and TES was searching. I had thought that they had met and was surprised to find out otherwise.
imoo
It would be hard for me to believe they had NOT met Tim Miller..and your right..both sides of the family were there when Tim searched the first time..In Feb.
JMO

[Peaches]

Hi dusty. I referenced Feb., when they were all in Satsuma. Ron and Crystal had each set up camps and TES was searching. I had thought that they had met and was surprised to find out otherwise.
imoo


Also...........TM came to the church service and was the guest speaker on HaLeigh Birthday week-end.

Crystal and her family could have attended.

[Justice4all]

Am I all wet or isn't it illegal to purchase drugs from a seller? If so and using the person's statement who said they were there to buy drugs, couldn't they arrest Misty and "lean" on her a bit concerning other things?

sure they could arrest her if she would have bought the drugs but she didn't because she was robbed. I have a gut feeling she'll be in jail soon.


MOO

[5boxersmom]

I was just thinking about something. I wonder if any of Misty's or Ron's or heck even Crystal's friends/associates/family members seemed to have come into any money around the time HaLeigh came up missing?

Just wondering if someone could have sold her. I doubt it happen but I hope it was checked.

jmo

[panman]

Respectfully, I believe everyone on this board has Haleigh's best interests in their hearts and minds, but we all still remember that Misty is the key to finding out what happened that night. That doesn't minimize anyone's thoughts and feelings about Haleigh. We all want to know what Misty has told Ron and we all want to know her entire story (the real one).

Respectfully, Maury's show was about the MISSING.

[FrankieBones1]

How could Ron's appearance on Maury be 'outdated'?
Has HaLeigh been found?

jmo

Wish I could say 'yes' to that question.

Did Putnam County have fifty detectives and deputies working on Haleigh's case the night she went missing like Somer case?

[FrankieBones1]

Respectfully, Maury's show was about the MISSING.

I would have to agree one hundred percent with you.

[FrankieBones1]

I was just thinking about something. I wonder if any of Misty's or Ron's or heck even Crystal's friends/associates/family members seemed to have come into any money around the time HaLeigh came up missing?

Just wondering if someone could have sold her. I doubt it happen but I hope it was checked.

jmo

Police probably thought of that angle, too and checked accounts and new large purchases, in my opinion.

[FrankieBones1]

Am I all wet or isn't it illegal to purchase drugs from a seller? If so and using the person's statement who said they were there to buy drugs, couldn't they arrest Misty and "lean" on her a bit concerning other things?

You're not wet but if there is no evidence left, as in this case, then how can the girls be charged? By the sounds of it, the two or three men are in possession of the drugs.

[panman]

I would have to agree one hundred percent with you.

Thank you. I believe there will be plenty of opportunities to start up again on Misty. But IMO, it wasn't to be done and should NOT have been done on Maury's show about the missing.
jmo

[seeker]

Respectfully, I believe everyone on this board has Haleigh's best interests in their hearts and minds, but we all still remember that Misty is the key to finding out what happened that night. That doesn't minimize anyone's thoughts and feelings about Haleigh. We all want to know what Misty has told Ron and we all want to know her entire story (the real one).Thanks for your words, just4justice. Your nic really says it all, I believe. What more could we all want but Justice for little HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings?

As we all hold differing views about what may have happened to HaLeigh Cummings in the hours of February 9th and 10th, 2009, it seems that we do share the desire for truth and resolution in this case.

It is sad to see that posters feel the need to criticize one another, when we obviously all have individual theories and ideas about this case. Isn't it HaLeigh that we come here for, day after day, night after night?

As for me, Maury's segment on HaLeigh, featuring a strange re-enactment, Teresa Neves, continung her downward spiral, and Ronald Cummings, once again reminding the mysterious "stealer of children" that his daughter isn't a belonging. (What?)

Why doesn't Ronald L. Cummings say his daughter's name? Why did he preface his "plea" with thanks to LE and everyone, a reminder that Haleigh is not property (or a "belonging") and then, almost as an afterthought say (without mentioning he was now addressing his daughter) "... and if you're watching, I love ya."

Nothing rang true to me and these are all my opinions.

[panman]

Seeker, Haleigh is HIS daughter, same as when Crystals says OUR daughter.
jmo

[titanfan217]

Thanks for your words, just4justice. Your nic really says it all, I believe. What more could we all want but Justice for little HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings?

As we all hold differing views about what may have happened to HaLeigh Cummings in the hours of February 9th and 10th, 2009, it seems that we do share the desire for truth and resolution in this case.

It is sad to see that posters feel the need to criticize one another, when we obviously all have individual theories and ideas about this case. Isn't it HaLeigh that we come here for, day after day, night after night?

As for me, Maury's segment on HaLeigh, featuring a strange re-enactment, Teresa Neves, continung her downward spiral, and Ronald Cummings, once again reminding the mysterious "stealer of children" that his daughter isn't a belonging. (What?)

Why doesn't Ronald L. Cummings say his daughter's name? Why did he preface his "plea" with thanks to LE and everyone, a reminder that Haleigh is not property (or a "belonging") and then, almost as an afterthought say (without mentioning he was now addressing his daughter) "... and if you're watching, I love ya."

Nothing rang true to me and these are all my opinions.


I only watched brief snips of that show, but your summary appears on target.

[Brattnt]

For anyone that missed Maury...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK8oenktrOg



I wouldnt wish Ron or Tersea's pain on anyone...They appeared very genuine to me, and my heart hurts for them....:crying:


MOO

[penny]

Haleigh Cummings Case featured on Maury Air Date 10/22/09 (4:55)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK8oenktrOg

Lynn as always you are the best with your links and I truly appreciate your help. I did not get to see the Maury show and to be honest I never knew Maury was still on air until I heard Ron and Teresa was going to be on his show. I missed the show, but thanks to you Lynn I did get to see it.

I think Ron and Teresa both looked very nice and I have to say my heart broke for both of them.

[Brattnt]

Oops...Sorry Lynn, I didnt realize you had already posted the Youtube...I should have known...lol....:smile:

[Elle]

For anyone that missed Maury...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK8oenktrOg



I wouldnt wish Ron or Tersea's pain on anyone...They appeared very genuine to me, and my heart hurts for them....:crying:


MOO

I completely agree.

[seeker]

Seeker, Haleigh is HIS daughter, same as when Crystals says OUR daughter.
jmo

Panman,

I'm not following you; what do you mean? Is there some question as to Ron being the father of HaLeigh? Why did you direct the above post to me, if you don't mind letting me know?

[FrankieBones1]

Panman,

I'm not following you; what do you mean? Is there some question as to Ron being the father of HaLeigh? Why did you direct the above post to me, if you don't mind letting me know?

Did you not have an ounce of sympathy for this father today while you watched him cry and speak about Haleigh? Did you not feel his pain like most of us did?

[panman]

Panman,

I'm not following you; what do you mean? Is there some question as to Ron being the father of HaLeigh? Why did you direct the above post to me, if you don't mind letting me know?

Sure, no problem. And then maybe you could tell me why you look for perfection from Haleighs dad? A dad who has his daughter missing.

Seeker posted:
Why doesn't Ronald L. Cummings say his daughter's name? Why did he preface his "plea" with thanks to LE and everyone, a reminder that Haleigh is not property (or a "belonging") and then, almost as an afterthought say (without mentioning he was now addressing his daughter) "... and if you're watching, I love ya."

[panman]

Did you not have an ounce of sympathy for this father today while you watched him cry and speak about Haleigh? Did you not feel his pain like most of us did?

Sometimes I just don't understand where some come from? No one has been arrested for Haleigh being missing. No One!

[Texas48]

Thanks for your words, just4justice. Your nic really says it all, I believe. What more could we all want but Justice for little HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings?

As we all hold differing views about what may have happened to HaLeigh Cummings in the hours of February 9th and 10th, 2009, it seems that we do share the desire for truth and resolution in this case.

It is sad to see that posters feel the need to criticize one another, when we obviously all have individual theories and ideas about this case. Isn't it HaLeigh that we come here for, day after day, night after night?

As for me, Maury's segment on HaLeigh, featuring a strange re-enactment, Teresa Neves, continung her downward spiral, and Ronald Cummings, once again reminding the mysterious "stealer of children" that his daughter isn't a belonging. (What?)

Why doesn't Ronald L. Cummings say his daughter's name? Why did he preface his "plea" with thanks to LE and everyone, a reminder that Haleigh is not property (or a "belonging") and then, almost as an afterthought say (without mentioning he was now addressing his daughter) "... and if you're watching, I love ya."

Nothing rang true to me and these are all my opinions.
BBM
I agree with the bolded part of your post seeker...it is sad..
With that said..why is it NOT sad that everything Ron says is picked apart in a way to *take away* from his appearance on the Maury Show..? Please stop and think....Ron is NOT you..he doesn't speak as you do...do you believe he should have a scripted part or should he just speak from his heart and the only way he knows..? would it make it better if he took some acting courses so he can appear.....what...better educated..more sincere..?
But..you are entitled to your opinions so I post this with all due respect..but my opinion is that NO matter what Ron says or does will never be the *right* thing...the *right* way...the *right* words....:sad:
JMO as always..

[seeker]

Sure, no problem. And then maybe you could tell me why you look for perfection from Haleighs dad? A dad who has his daughter missing.

Seeker posted:
Why doesn't Ronald L. Cummings say his daughter's name? Why did he preface his "plea" with thanks to LE and everyone, a reminder that Haleigh is not property (or a "belonging") and then, almost as an afterthought say (without mentioning he was now addressing his daughter) "... and if you're watching, I love ya."
Panman,

I am not looking for an argument and I am still at a loss as to your last post, informing me that HaLeigh is Ron's daughter. Your quote of part of mine is not an answer to my question of you, which is basically:

"What do you mean?"

As to your new post, above, all I can wonder is why you would assume to believe that I look for perfection in Ronald Cummings, or anyone, for that matter? How does this tie in in to HaLeigh and her disappearance?

[penny]

One woman later told police she let a friend out at a housing project where she said she wanted to buy drugs. According to a police report we’ve also put up, the driver said she was only taking another friend and Misty, who both wanted to score.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/21/misty-cummings-new-911-call-robbed-when-drug-deal-went-bad/#


I couldn't read the police report but if what Art says about it is true then the driver allegedly said both Misty and the other friend wanted to buy drugs. If that is in the police report then it isn't just "the rumor mill".

ETA I just went and looked again and the driver does say that Misty and the other girl were there to buy drugs. Its the last sentence of the report and hard to read.

Thank you for the links and information above W_D_1

Am I the only one upset or not understanding something when it comes to this latest incident with Misty?

Why has LE not taken the opportunity to arrest Misty for trying to buy drugs? This could be there best hope ever of arresting Misty and setting bond so high that hopefully she would have to sit in jail and be questioned long enough that she would finally break and tell the truth about the night Haleigh went missing. If she was arrested and behind bars then she could not walk out just because LE was " rude " as she stated on the today show.

I honestly do not understand why LE has not arrested her...any ideas?

Also, that 911 call from Misty was so different then the 911 call the night Haleigh disappeared. My untrained ears can sure hear the difference so I am hoping the FBI ( or whoever goes through the 911 tapes) is going through both 911 calls and comparing them and in my opinion they are. I think in the future if there is ever a trial these two 911 calls could be very helpful, of course IF Misty is not telling everything she knows which I do not believe she is. LE has made it clear they think she is hiding something also ( paraphrasing).

I do not like to hear anyone scared or hurt not even Misty because they are about a 1% chance in my mind she is innocent, but this incident could be very helpful in finding out what happened to Haleigh. At least I can hope that it is if LE would or could arrest her. Can they not arrest her since at least on of the girls with Misty has said what they were doing?

I am sure the above is confusing but I am just so upset after seeing the video of Teresa and Ron.

I just knew my theory the other day could be so right and now today I am second guessing myself again.

[Lynn Gweeny]

One woman later told police she let a friend out at a housing project where she said she wanted to buy drugs. According to a police report we’ve also put up, the driver said she was only taking another friend and Misty, who both wanted to score.

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/21/misty-cummings-new-911-call-robbed-when-drug-deal-went-bad/#


I couldn't read the police report but if what Art says about it is true then the driver allegedly said both Misty and the other friend wanted to buy drugs. If that is in the police report then it isn't just "the rumor mill".

ETA I just went and looked again and the driver does say that Misty and the other girl were there to buy drugs. Its the last sentence of the report and hard to read.

I couldn't get the link at AH's site to open but found this link to the Police Report:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/10/21/palatka.police.report.pdf

[penny]

is this good?

Police: Misty Cummings robbed trying to buy drugs
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-misty-cummings-robbed-102009,0,4809536.story

I would think it would be good - so again why has Misty not been arrested?

I am sorry, I am behind a couple of days on the board so I may be talking about things that have already been discussed. I had heard about all of this, but I had not had much computer time to discuss the latest information in the Haleigh case.

[penny]

Am I all wet or isn't it illegal to purchase drugs from a seller? If so and using the person's statement who said they were there to buy drugs, couldn't they arrest Misty and "lean" on her a bit concerning other things?

I am glad to see your post Kathlb because it makes me realize I am not the only one wondering about this.

[panman]

Panman,

I am not looking for an argument and I am still at a loss as to your last post, informing me that HaLeigh is Ron's daughter. Your quote of part of mine is not an answer to my question of you, which is basically:

"What do you mean?"

As to your new post, above, all I can wonder is why you would assume to believe that I look for perfection in Ronald Cummings, or anyone, for that matter? How does this tie in in to HaLeigh and her disappearance?


Not tonight seeker. Carry on without me.

[cat3]

BBM
I agree with the bolded part of your post seeker...it is sad..
With that said..why is it NOT sad that everything Ron says is picked apart in a way to *take away* from his appearance on the Maury Show..? Please stop and think....Ron is NOT you..he doesn't speak as you do...do you believe he should have a scripted part or should he just speak from his heart and the only way he knows..? would it make it better if he took some acting courses so he can appear.....what...better educated..more sincere..?
But..you are entitled to your opinions so I post this with all due respect..but my opinion is that NO matter what Ron says or does will never be the *right* thing...the *right* way...the *right* words....:sad:
JMO as always..

Great post,Texas.For some reason a line from a Prince song keeps going through my head when I read comments by some posters.
The line is "she's never satisfied"
Seems some are never satisfied....no matter what.
I remember early on in this case some were saying RC and family never thanked anyone helping in the search for Haleigh.
Turns out that wasn't true....but some posters decided to go with it anyway.
RC uses the MP show to again give thanks,and it seems that some have a problem with that.....I don't get it,but it takes all kinds.
I see no reason why Ron shouldn't refer to Haleigh as his daughter as she is his daughter.
I thought he and TN did a great job in getting the word out about Haleigh on the MP show.
IMO

[seeker]

Why didn't Ron say his daughter's name?

[Elle]

BBM
I agree with the bolded part of your post seeker...it is sad..
With that said..why is it NOT sad that everything Ron says is picked apart in a way to *take away* from his appearance on the Maury Show..? Please stop and think....Ron is NOT you..he doesn't speak as you do...do you believe he should have a scripted part or should he just speak from his heart and the only way he knows..? would it make it better if he took some acting courses so he can appear.....what...better educated..more sincere..?
But..you are entitled to your opinions so I post this with all due respect..but my opinion is that NO matter what Ron says or does will never be the *right* thing...the *right* way...the *right* words....:sad:
JMO as always..


I agree with you. Todays show broke my heart, and this was just a small glimpse into the hell they live daily, hourly, minute by minute.

That said, and not directed specifically toward Seeker, those that believe/decided he is involved, despite no evidence, are not going to feel sympathy for him.
in my opinion.

[Tracian]

Amazing. When Crystal was on Nancy's show, she called Haleigh 'our daughter' which is a perfectly normal way to refer to one's child....Ron says, 'my daughter' and there is this feigned confusion as to why he would say such a thing.


Somer's mother was just on HLN, talking about her 'baby' she didn't say her 'name' either...

[Elle]

Why didn't Ron say his daughter's name?

What would have changed for you if he had? To this day, I have only spoken my daughters name out loud a handful of times, it is TOO hard. Her name is in my head and heart 24/7, but it hurts like hell to say it out loud. Maybe that makes no sense, no matter, it's how it is for me. Possibly it is the same for him. Not everything has to be suspicious.

imo

[penny]

Thanks for your words, just4justice. Your nic really says it all, I believe. What more could we all want but Justice for little HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings?

As we all hold differing views about what may have happened to HaLeigh Cummings in the hours of February 9th and 10th, 2009, it seems that we do share the desire for truth and resolution in this case.

It is sad to see that posters feel the need to criticize one another, when we obviously all have individual theories and ideas about this case. Isn't it HaLeigh that we come here for, day after day, night after night?

As for me, Maury's segment on HaLeigh, featuring a strange re-enactment, Teresa Neves, continung her downward spiral, and Ronald Cummings, once again reminding the mysterious "stealer of children" that his daughter isn't a belonging. (What?)

Why doesn't Ronald L. Cummings say his daughter's name? Why did he preface his "plea" with thanks to LE and everyone, a reminder that Haleigh is not property (or a "belonging") and then, almost as an afterthought say (without mentioning he was now addressing his daughter) "... and if you're watching, I love ya."

Nothing rang true to me and these are all my opinions.


my bold and I so agree

I did notice what you noticed with Ron when he spoke his plea. I will say it is confusing to me and I do not know if he was caught off guard or what. I have to admit thought, the tears I felt were real and that overshadowed his words to me anyway.

I am still not 100% convinced he was not involved somehow, but I have always felt Haleigh met with some kind of accident. I do believe that Ron loved Haleigh and still loves Haleigh.

Oh, and I forgot to tell you I have missed you posting and I am glad to see you back.

[tia marie]

BBM
I agree with the bolded part of your post seeker...it is sad..
With that said..why is it NOT sad that everything Ron says is picked apart in a way to *take away* from his appearance on the Maury Show..? Please stop and think....Ron is NOT you..he doesn't speak as you do...do you believe he should have a scripted part or should he just speak from his heart and the only way he knows..? would it make it better if he took some acting courses so he can appear.....what...better educated..more sincere..?
But..you are entitled to your opinions so I post this with all due respect..but my opinion is that NO matter what Ron says or does will never be the *right* thing...the *right* way...the *right* words....:sad:
JMO as always..

I'm so thrilled you agree with the "bolded part" of seeker's post. I was just about to address it. IMO, seems that there's a lot of carry over animoisty towards the poster and not the post itself.

The focus on this board should be, IMO, Haleigh, and who and what happened. It seems when someone opines what they think could have happened, it it doesn't fit with the majority here, its described as disrupting.

You , from reading your posts happen to believe in Ron not having any knowledge of what happened the night Haleigh went missing. Others, myself included, happen to think otherwise. Isn't it great that we live in a country where we can have a different opinion and have a venue to express it without fear of reprisal?

moo

[Texas48]

I'm so thrilled you agree with the "bolded part" of seeker's post. I was just about to address it. IMO, seems that there's a lot of carry over animoisty towards the poster and not the post itself.

The focus on this board should be, IMO, Haleigh, and who and what happened. It seems when someone opines what they think could have happened, it it doesn't fit with the majority here, its described as disrupting.

You , from reading your posts happen to believe in Ron not having any knowledge of what happened the night Haleigh went missing. Others, myself included, happen to think otherwise. Isn't it great that we live in a country where we can have a different opinion and have a venue to express it without fear of reprisal?

mooBBM and Red By Me
The black bolded portion of your post just goes to show how wrong you are about me and my opinions on what happened the night/morning little HaLeigh went missing.....
The Red bolded portion of your post is something I agree with 100%...

[cat3]

What would have changed for you if he had? To this day, I have only spoken my daughters name out loud a handful of times, it is TOO hard. Her name is in my head and heart 24/7, but it hurts like hell to say it out loud. Maybe that makes no sense, no matter, it's how it is for me. Possibly it is the same for him. Not everything has to be suspicious.

imo

It makes perfect sense to me that it might be painful for Ron to say Haleigh's name.
I didn't even notice that he hadn't until it was brought up here,but my thought as well was that it might be hard for him to say Haleigh's name.

p.s....sorry for your loss.

IMO

[penny]

Panman,

I am not looking for an argument and I am still at a loss as to your last post, informing me that HaLeigh is Ron's daughter. Your quote of part of mine is not an answer to my question of you, which is basically:

"What do you mean?"

As to your new post, above, all I can wonder is why you would assume to believe that I look for perfection in Ronald Cummings, or anyone, for that matter? How does this tie in in to HaLeigh and her disappearance?


I do not feel Seeker or anyone should be criticized for their thoughts and opinions. We all have them and just because we do not agree with someone else's ...does that give any of us the right to put down another persons thoughts or opinions?.....NO, in my opinion it does NOT.

[panman]

IMO, Maury had a show today on the "MISSING". It seems to me that the interest for some went to what thoughts Ron had on Misty. Or why doesn't Ron say his daughters name. If this is about Haleigh and her disappearance, then I am confused.
my very strong opinion.

[cat3]

I do not feel Seeker or anyone should be criticized for their thoughts and opinions. We all have them and just because we do not agree with someone else's ...does that give any of us the right to put down another persons thoughts or opinions?.....NO, in my opinion it does NOT.

Did anyone get put down for expressing an opinion? I must have missed it if they did.
I think we are all expressing our opinions today,and that would include having an opinion about another posters opinion.
In my opinion focusing on the words used or not used by RC might cause one to lose sight of the goal of the MP show and that is to put it out to the masses that Haleigh is missing.
In my opinion RC and TN did a great job at putting out vital info about Haleigh.
IMO

[panman]

I'm so thrilled you agree with the "bolded part" of seeker's post. I was just about to address it. IMO, seems that there's a lot of carry over animoisty towards the poster and not the post itself.
The focus on this board should be, IMO, Haleigh, and who and what happened. It seems when someone opines what they think could have happened, it it doesn't fit with the majority here, its described as disrupting.

You , from reading your posts happen to believe in Ron not having any knowledge of what happened the night Haleigh went missing. Others, myself included, happen to think otherwise. Isn't it great that we live in a country where we can have a different opinion and have a venue to express it without fear of reprisal?

moo

BBM

It sure does, IMO, from reading this post. From the post above on opinions to opining about another poster.
jmo

[JackieBlu]

Imo, isn't Ron's appearance on the Maury show rather outdated now after Misty's latest caper? Personally, I'd prefer to hear Ron's reaction to Misty's latest stunt.


In my opinion how can you even say that? This is about Haleigh being found.....nothing more!!!

My thoughts and opinions

[Lynn Gweeny]

Haleigh's Great Grandmother Reacts to Somer Case
FirstCoastNews.com
By: Ann Butler Dave Wax
Updated: 10/22/2009 6:24:53 PM

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=147059&catid=3#

VIDEO

(Interview with GGmaSykes and Jeff Hardy)

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=articleplayer&maven_referralPlaylistId=playlist&maven_referralObject=1304393468

[Lynn Gweeny]

Haleigh's family prays for Somer's family

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/actionlocal/story/Haleighs-family-prays-for-Somers-family/RC4OMh68rEGoA5uutd7kBA.cspx

[tia marie]

IMO, Maury had a show today on the "MISSING". It seems to me that the interest for some went to what thoughts Ron had on Misty. Or why doesn't Ron say his daughters name. If this is about Haleigh and her disappearance, then I am confused.
my very strong opinion.

Yes, Panman, Maury did have a show on the Missing today, and although I didn't have an opportunity to watch it, my post this morning was it was prerecorded, prior to Misty's latest caper, what Ron felt, said, expressed a week ago, has little bearing on the last two days or so events. I would like to hear what Ron has to say about Misty today, yesterday, and tomorrow.

We all can understand the pain the Cummings, Ron Teresa, Gram Sykes are experiencing, the point is, what can Misty have to say that just might make it go away just a little bit.Ignoring what Misty is doing is ignoring the elephant in the room.

[Texas48]

Did anyone get put down for expressing an opinion? I must have missed it if they did.
I think we are all expressing our opinions today,and that would include having an opinion about another posters opinion.
In my opinion focusing on the words used or not used by RC might cause one to lose sight of the goal of the MP show and that is to put it out to the masses that Haleigh is missing.
In my opinion RC and TN did a great job at putting out vital info about Haleigh.
IMOBBM
Right there with you cat...I thought we were all being pretty much respectful of each other..I guess some wants to take it in a different direction or just to *jump in* so to speak...I respect seekers opinions and I feel I was NOT being rude or disrespectful in my post to her...

[Chica]

Thanks for your words, just4justice. Your nic really says it all, I believe. What more could we all want but Justice for little HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings?

As we all hold differing views about what may have happened to HaLeigh Cummings in the hours of February 9th and 10th, 2009, it seems that we do share the desire for truth and resolution in this case.

It is sad to see that posters feel the need to criticize one another, when we obviously all have individual theories and ideas about this case. Isn't it HaLeigh that we come here for, day after day, night after night?

As for me, Maury's segment on HaLeigh, featuring a strange re-enactment, Teresa Neves, continung her downward spiral, and Ronald Cummings, once again reminding the mysterious "stealer of children" that his daughter isn't a belonging. (What?)

Why doesn't Ronald L. Cummings say his daughter's name? Why did he preface his "plea" with thanks to LE and everyone, a reminder that Haleigh is not property (or a "belonging") and then, almost as an afterthought say (without mentioning he was now addressing his daughter) "... and if you're watching, I love ya."

Nothing rang true to me and these are all my opinions.


How we can watch the very same show and come away with polar opposite feelings is astounding. I saw a man devastated living a 8 month nightmare. My heart breaks for him. I do not "read" anything into his comments at all. There was no right or wrong way to deliver them imo. I felt he spoke from his heart.

[panman]

Yes, Panman, Maury did have a show on the Missing today, and although I didn't have an opportunity to watch it, my post this morning was it was prerecorded, prior to Misty's latest caper, what Ron felt, said, expressed a week ago, has little bearing on the last two days or so events. I would like to hear what Ron has to say about Misty today, yesterday, and tomorrow.

We all can understand the pain the Cummings, Ron Teresa, Gram Sykes are experiencing, the point is, what can Misty have to say that just might make it go away just a little bit.Ignoring what Misty is doing is ignoring the elephant in the room.

Again, the show was about the "MISSING". Not about what anyone has done or didn't do, but to get the "MISSING" people's info out there.
mo

[penny]

I'm so thrilled you agree with the "bolded part" of seeker's post. I was just about to address it. IMO, seems that there's a lot of carry over animoisty towards the poster and not the post itself.

The focus on this board should be, IMO, Haleigh, and who and what happened. It seems when someone opines what they think could have happened, it it doesn't fit with the majority here, its described as disrupting.

You , from reading your posts happen to believe in Ron not having any knowledge of what happened the night Haleigh went missing. Others, myself included, happen to think otherwise. Isn't it great that we live in a country where we can have a different opinion and have a venue to express it without fear of reprisal?

moo


Great post Tia Marie and I agree with everything you have said.

I do want to say this and I can only HOPE that some will really think about this for just a moment and I am serious.

I see the Haleigh thread slowing down all the time. I feel the reason is, there is a select few that will just not except someone else's thoughts and opinions if they are not just like their own. Well, we are not robots and we all think differently and we do live in a country that allows that.

So, people stop posting because they get tired of being criticized for their thoughts and opinions in this case.

So, then the post slows down

So, then people stop talking about Haleigh

Who does that hurt?..........HALEIGH is who it hurts.

I truly believe that the public keeps interest going in any missing persons case. Now, if posters stop talking about Haleigh because they are tired of being criticized for their post then there is a good chance that the news media will stop talking because as we know ratings is what they are after. So, if the public stops talking and loses interest then the media will disappear so then there is a very good chance the case will go cold.

So, I hope BEFORE anyone starts to criticize another persons thoughts they will think about HALEIGH FIRST and what could happen.

I see nothing wrong with debate, but when you personally attack another poster you are doing nothing but hurting Haleigh in my opinion.

Now, the select few can go behind my back and make jokes and act like children or they can think about my post for a moment and realize they may be hurting others feelings but in the long run they are hurting HALEIGH.

My very STRONG OPINION.

I am sorry for the rant, but I felt it was something that needs to be said.

Just remember, in the beginning of this case day or night you could go to message boards and SEVERAL posters would be on-line. Look at how many posters are on the Haleigh thread today. What does that say?

I am leaving, because as normal my post are getting ignored, Seeker is getting personal attacks, so if the select few wants this board it looks like that is exactly what is happening. I seen the SAME select few do this to the AH message board and I hate to see it happening here, but I see this same path happening here and it is very sad. I for one think In Sessions is the best message board out there but if we get ignored attacked ( I have had several personal attacks myself so I know how Seeker feels) then posters will just keep leaving.

I can only HOPE to see some changes soon because the Haleigh thread is too slow and it is defiantly NOT because there is not enough news out there about this case because there is. This is one of the strangest cases I have ever followed so there should be more public interest and posters on this board. PLEASE STOP THE PERSONAL ATTACKS.

If you do NOT know how to discuss without being RUDE then just post your thoughts and opinions and move on in my opinion.

I am sorry tia marie for jumping off your post but I got started and I just could not stop.

Lets ALL discuss Haleigh and NOT other posters.

bbl - when I see posters discussing Haleigh and NOT other posters.

[emmaleah]

Sometimes I just don't understand where some come from? No one has been arrested for Haleigh being missing. No One!



I agree and I just can not imagine why people can not show compassion for this family and I do mean all of the family. Do they not have compassion in general or is it just a few that seem to harbor such hateful (and that is the only words I can come up with right now) thoughts to wards Ron He is the father of a missing child and I would I would not wish this situation on my worst enemy.

JMHOO

[Chica]

I do not feel Seeker or anyone should be criticized for their thoughts and opinions. We all have them and just because we do not agree with someone else's ...does that give any of us the right to put down another persons thoughts or opinions?.....NO, in my opinion it does NOT.

Gosh, I hope you nor Seeker feel I was criticizing, only expressing my differing opinion. If so, I apologize. Can't we even disagree respectfully anymore? I am at a loss on this board many times.

[Nicola]

I cannot believe Haleigh still hasn't been found, how much longer is it going to take to find her?
Who on Earth has the answers to her whereabouts?
Misty? Ronald? A N Other?

Crystal and her fiance have never even entered my radar as being involved in whatever has happened to Haleigh, they were miles away when whatever happened, happened.

Why is it when a poster has an opinion several posters have to form a gang mentality and jump on their back?
The same opinion is opined post after post after post!
Do people feel the need to post exactly the same thing as the previous poster just to 'get their oar in'? so to speak.

MO

Nicki

[Chica]

I am glad to see your post Kathlb because it makes me realize I am not the only one wondering about this.

There is no law against saying you were buying drugs but there should be one against stupidity. !!

[emmaleah]

I agree and I just can not imagine why people can not show compassion for this family and I do mean all of the family. Do they not have compassion in general or is it just a few that seem to harbor such hateful (and that is the only words I can come up with right now) thoughts to wards Ron He is the father of a missing child and I would I would not wish this situation on my worst enemy.

JMHOO


I need to apologize for my above post. This is about HaLeigh and everyone is entitled to their opinions.

It is frustrating and I did not mean to take it out on anyone here.

[Chica]

Not tonight seeker. Carry on without me.

Me, too. After the day anguishing over Somer Thompson and seeing Ron and his mom in such pain, I don't have the strength or the desire to fence tonight. :crying:

[seeker]

How we can watch the very same show and come away with polar opposite feelings is astounding. I saw a man devastated living a 8 month nightmare. My heart breaks for him. I do not "read" anything into his comments at all. There was no right or wrong way to deliver them imo. I felt he spoke from his heart.

Chica, I understand your frustrated and "astounded" feelings about how we can come away from the same thing and feel and think completely differently about what we have witnessed. ("We" meaning a collective "we," not just you and I).

I just cannot watch this in a vacuum. Since February I have been immersed in this story, and the "normal" feelings of sympathy, even empathy, for parents and family of lost children just aren't happening for me when it comes to Ronald, Teresa, and Annette. With Misty, not being biologically connected to HaLeigh and so young, I have different thoughts.

I realize this is not a popular view, nor does it paint me as a very caring person to some people. But, that is not why I'm here. It is truth I am seeking, and if it is a sad and ugly truth, than so be it. If I am wrong, I will be very happy, relieved, and my faith in mankind will be lifted up another notch.

My OPINIONS and hope for some peace here on this board.

[penny]

Gosh, I hope you nor Seeker feel I was criticizing, only expressing my differing opinion. If so, I apologize. Can't we even disagree respectfully anymore? I am at a loss on this board many times.

Chica, I was not speaking about you and I am sorry if you took it that way. I do realize just because some people disagree that is normal. It IS when it is RUDE and I did not see you being rude to anyone.

[Chica]

I couldn't get the link at AH's site to open but found this link to the Police Report:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/10/21/palatka.police.report.pdf

Well, gee Lynn, I guess the police report will just have to do !!! :laugh:

Thanks so much.

[Chica]

What would have changed for you if he had? To this day, I have only spoken my daughters name out loud a handful of times, it is TOO hard. Her name is in my head and heart 24/7, but it hurts like hell to say it out loud. Maybe that makes no sense, no matter, it's how it is for me. Possibly it is the same for him. Not everything has to be suspicious.

imo

I have the same problem saying my son's name and I also can't say the word died.

[FrankieBones1]

I have the same problem saying my son's name and I also can't say the word died.

That is so understandable, Chica. It really does take a life time of experiences to feel what some parents feel and act the way they do.

[FrankieBones1]

Me, too. After the day anguishing over Somer Thompson and seeing Ron and his mom in such pain, I don't have the strength or the desire to fence tonight. :crying:Same here, ladies. Nancy Grace is on in a half hour; maybe we'll hear something positive tonight.

[Texas48]

IMO Penny..the board has NOT slowed down because of the posters...in any case once there is little or no news posters will go to a different forum..and that is exactly what has happened....If you had been posting for any length of time you would know that and NOT place the blame on posters like you tried to do...
You want to discuss HaLeigh...then start discussing. Who is stopping you?
Why do you feel the need to lecture any poster here..? You do not approve of the post then skip it...
My very strong Opinions.

[Elle]

I have the same problem saying my son's name and I also can't say the word died.

I completely understand and I am so sorry.

[panman]

I completely understand and I am so sorry.

My prayers to Elle and Chica and their families. If you two can come on here and explain to ones who have NOT walked in your shoes, then I don't understand why it is so hard for some to "get it".

[Peaches]

My prayers to Elle and Chica and their families. If you two can come on here and explain to ones who have NOT walked in your shoes, then I don't understand why it is so hard for some to "get it".


Please accept my prayers also. I know that life will never be the same for you..........Elle and Chica.

May God hold you close.

[Chica]

Chica, I understand your frustrated and "astounded" feelings about how we can come away from the same thing and feel and think completely differently about what we have witnessed. ("We" meaning a collective "we," not just you and I).

I just cannot watch this in a vacuum. Since February I have been immersed in this story, and the "normal" feelings of sympathy, even empathy, for parents and family of lost children just aren't happening for me when it comes to Ronald, Teresa, and Annette. With Misty, not being biologically connected to HaLeigh and so young, I have different thoughts.

I realize this is not a popular view, nor does it paint me as a very caring person to some people. But, that is not why I'm here. It is truth I am seeking, and if it is a sad and ugly truth, than so be it. If I am wrong, I will be very happy, relieved, and my faith in mankind will be lifted up another notch.

My OPINIONS and hope for some peace here on this board.




Seeker,
I truly understand where you are coming from (your BBM post). and so when Ron says anything you are suspect, you interpret it as suspect. I really do understand and that difference of where we are coming from is what tailors our opinions of what we see and hear. I hope you are completely wrong about Ron and we find he had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance. If he is found to be complicit, I will be very sad and will feel fooled to have put my faith in him. I don't like Ron or his choices, but I for some reason believe him. You, for some reason don't. And that is what makes the world go round. Today has been very difficult for me posting on Somer's thread and watching her case unfold. Again many sex offenders all around her. Watching Ron crying on Maury tore at my heart and so, yes, tonight I want to believe and grieve with Ron.