Caylee 10/17

[MomofaMarine]

Casey Anthony case: CBS pays $20,000 for family photos, video


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/orl-loccasey-anthony-hearing-101709101709oct17,0,7321596.story

[MomofaMarine]

Casey Anthony case: Read transcript of Lee Anthony's prosecution deposition, July 30


http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d16-Casey-Anthony-case-Read-transcript-of-Lee-Anthonys-prosecution-deposition-July-30

[Scampi]

Morning MOM, thank you for the links. But where's breakfast???


:laugh:

[MomofaMarine]

Transcripts Reveal Inconsistent Anthony Family Statements


http://www.wftv.com/news/21320358/detail.html

[MomofaMarine]

Jose Baez


http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21317868/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;p=news&dm=ss&tn=b

[MomofaMarine]

Morning MOM, thank you for the links. But where's breakfast???


:laugh:



Good morning Scamp! Here, have a donut! :smile:

[MomofaMarine]

Conway on hearing.


http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21317848/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;p=news&dm=ss&tn=b

[Scampi]

Transcripts Reveal Inconsistent Anthony Family Statements


http://www.wftv.com/news/21320358/detail.html


.....and once again Kathy Belich comes thru with THE question of the day:

“So, George, you're not worried about possible perjury charges?” WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked George Friday.

I hope Kathy Belich receives the Pulitzer Prize for her unrelenting reporting in this case. She consistently asks the questions that need to be asked.

:thumbsup:

[Scampi]

Good morning Scamp! Here, have a donut! :smile:

Thanks Mom, I knew you weren't the kind of Ma that would make us fend for ourselves with dry cereal and a sippy cup of milk. :wub:

[MomofaMarine]

Inconsistencies Revealed In George Anthony’s Deposition


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/16/inconsistencies_revealed_in_george_anthonys_deposi tion.html

[MomofaMarine]

George Anthony Deposition Focuses On Duct Tape
Casey Anthony's Father Was Deposed In August


http://www.wesh.com/news/21318973/detail.html

[MomofaMarine]

A trip down memory lane. I had forgotten about some of this stuff!


Sunday, August 3, 2008
George Anthony Speaks.... And Lies?

http://anakerie.blogspot.com/2008/08/george-anthony-speaks-and-lies.html

[msgatorslayer]

G'morning, everyone!

UGH, going through these depositions is brutal. I'm still not done with Lee's and need to get to George's.

Lee, OMG, he thinks he's a bonifide detective with all the words he uses to describe his 'investigation'. What a trip!! And he's a bad 'detective' at that. His gut feelings about 'POI's" and "Suspects' are way off, lol.

[msgatorslayer]

:laugh: "That guys an idiot", Lee says about John Morgan!!

[MomofaMarine]

Casey Anthony IMs Reveal Woman Pushed to the Edge
Forensic Psychologist: Alleged Killer “Wanted a Life”


http://im.about.com/od/resources/a/caseyhelp.htm

[msgatorslayer]

Cindy admits the 'bat phones' were used because they thought their regular phones were all tapped.

Lee says otherwise. They were so that the family could always get ahold of one another. If someone was on TV and that 'bat phone' rang, they better get off air and answer it. :laugh: Cindy would NEVER do such a thing, lmao.

They are consistent at being inconsistent!!! Or is that, half-consistent?:confused:

[MomofaMarine]

Forget the Bella Vita tattoo. Look at the disgusting skin. It's like something out of a horror movie.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/10/casey-anthony-her-back-the-horror-the-horror.html

[Julie Dupree]

G'morning, everyone!

UGH, going through these depositions is brutal. I'm still not done with Lee's and need to get to George's.

Lee, OMG, he thinks he's a bonifide detective with all the words he uses to describe his 'investigation'. What a trip!! And he's a bad 'detective' at that. His gut feelings about 'POI's" and "Suspects' are way off, lol.

Remember Ms Gator, he is doing his intership in PI training. And he has the best mentor.
Good Morning everyone.

[Julie Dupree]

Speaking of "Memory Lane" remember this:

http://humbleopinion.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/casey-cindy-and-georgelies-part-1-2-of-4/

[msgatorslayer]

Remember Ms Gator, he is doing his intership in PI training. And he has the best mentor.
Good Morning everyone.

Yeah, just so, if needed, he could have confidentiality with his Sis.:rolleyes:

Morning, Julie!!

This family continues to get stranger and stranger with each new doc dump. Do they really believe that LE, the FBI, and the ME, are in on a conspiracy to name the remains as "Caylee', and let Jesse Grund get away with keeping Caylee alive SOMEWHERE because, he loved Caylee more than Casey, and he says he never met TonE at a pool party? :rolleyes:

FGS, Freaks!! IMO

[MomofaMarine]

Casey Anthony case: Read defense motion for order to jail to destroy video of family visits


http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d16-Casey-Anthony-case-Read-defense-motion-for-order-to-jail-to-destroy-video-of-family-visits

[MomofaMarine]

Complete Text Of Casey Anthony's Jailhouse Phone Call
Mother-Daughter Exchange Harsh Words In Missing Girl Mystery

POSTED: Friday, July 25, 2008
UPDATED: 3:42 pm EDT July 28, 2008


http://www.clickorlando.com/news/16993169/detail.html

[Julie Dupree]

Casey Anthony case: Read defense motion for order to jail to destroy video of family visits


http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d16-Casey-Anthony-case-Read-defense-motion-for-order-to-jail-to-destroy-video-of-family-visits

Can anyone believe JB and company did not know who to call for witness in this case??
I never stop being amazed at his arrogance and his ignorance.

[msgatorslayer]

Guess it never occured to Lee that all the comments he seen on Casey's Myspace that he used to track her down on July 3rd were probably deleted by Casey so that, oh, he couldn't track her anymore, lmao.

[farrahrani]

Casey Anthony IMs Reveal Woman Pushed to the Edge
Forensic Psychologist: Alleged Killer “Wanted a Life”


http://im.about.com/od/resources/a/caseyhelp.htm

"However, the bigger picture, Kirwin said, is the socio-political issue of the amount of support and resources available to women, calling it as much an issue for women and feminists as it is crime."


You have no idea how much that pi$$es me off. This was NOT a women's resource issue. Casey had family and friends to watch her kid, and NO job, not because she couldn't find one due to lack of childcare but because she was freaking lazy.

When I got my divorce, after ten years of being a housewife I had NO resources. NO sitter, NO job, NO job references and no way to get a job. God knows I applied till my fingers bled from typing applications. Not ONCE did I consider harming my children to 'have a life' A lot of women who are in dire straits who have boyfriends do not harm their kids.

YES, there is a huge problem for women with children and the lack of available childcare in this country. But it should not be dragged into this case. I am hoping that article is very old, probably written at the beginning of this case, because I would hate to think anyone would write such drivel knowing Casey had no job and sitters at her disposal.

[Neffy]

Casey's job when she had one was the same as working the concession at a theme park. Other then taking a picture on the spot she took no other pictures. Those rides are automatic pictures snapped at a certain point. Cindy goes over the top with Casey being a "photographer". Completely over glorifies it. Same with Lee and his job at the Sentinel. Cold call sales. Georges security watch aka the night watchman. These are all job with minimum training and skills needed.

Casey could have applied at numerous agencys for state assistance in child care as she's never made over minimum wage. She could have worked part-time at minimum, went to school and recieved assistance.

She did't bother.

[msgatorslayer]

"However, the bigger picture, Kirwin said, is the socio-political issue of the amount of support and resources available to women, calling it as much an issue for women and feminists as it is crime."


You have no idea how much that pi$$es me off. This was NOT a women's resource issue. Casey had family and friends to watch her kid, and NO job, not because she couldn't find one due to lack of childcare but because she was freaking lazy.

When I got my divorce, after ten years of being a housewife I had NO resources. NO sitter, NO job, NO job references and no way to get a job. God knows I applied till my fingers bled from typing applications. Not ONCE did I consider harming my children to 'have a life' A lot of women who are in dire straits who have boyfriends do not harm their kids.

YES, there is a huge problem for women with children and the lack of available childcare in this country. But it should not be dragged into this case. I am hoping that article is very old, probably written at the beginning of this case, because I would hate to think anyone would write such drivel knowing Casey had no job and sitters at her disposal.

ITA - Casey had plenty of resources. Much more, IMO, than many young, single mothers. Her parents supported her so fully that she was able to 'fake work' for a very long time. And they babysat so she could go out and party, and play with her boyfriends.

There were plenty of additional resources Casey could have received, if she tried and put an effort into it.

Naming the daddy would have enabled her to get child support. If she stopped living in her dream world of being an 'event planner' with a nanny, making so much money, she could have applied for financial aid to go to school. To get food stamps. REAL child care in the form governement assisted child care, sorry, no nanny's here. However, in order to get some of these resources, she would have had to get off her lazy azz and get a real job!!! One that could be proven!!!

[msgatorslayer]

Casey Anthony case: Read defense motion for order to jail to destroy video of family visits


http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d16-Casey-Anthony-case-Read-defense-motion-for-order-to-jail-to-destroy-video-of-family-visits

:rolleyes: Nobody is punishing her by denying her to be 'comforted' by her family. GMAB!!

She is no different than any other inmate. They can come visit her anytime they want. Just don't expect the cameras to be turned off cause they think they're special.

[Neffy]

Cindy admits the 'bat phones' were used because they thought their regular phones were all tapped.

Lee says otherwise. They were so that the family could always get ahold of one another. If someone was on TV and that 'bat phone' rang, they better get off air and answer it. :laugh: Cindy would NEVER do such a thing, lmao.

They are consistent at being inconsistent!!! Or is that, half-consistent?:confused:

D Casey had numerous throw aways also. While running their own "investigation" they were derailing the LE investigation. I wonder if they were obtained under false names. That would be interesting.

[AMS]

.....and once again Kathy Belich comes thru with THE question of the day:

“So, George, you're not worried about possible perjury charges?” WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked George Friday.

I hope Kathy Belich receives the Pulitzer Prize for her unrelenting reporting in this case. She consistently asks the questions that need to be asked.

:thumbsup:

Yep. Kathy and Linda DB always make my day. :thumbup:

[Sun]

Cindy - 7/28/09 Part 1 ..pages 1-200
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310276/detail.html

Cindy - 7/29/09 Part 2 ..pages 1-476
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310288/detail.html

Lee - 7/30/09 ..pages 1-420
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310241/detail.html

George - 8/5/09 ..pages 1-377
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html


Good morning everyone! If you have already viewed Cindy's Part 2, WFTV added pages that were originally missing from the Part 2 link. The new pages start on page 318.

[Neffy]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21320358/detail.html

I did a search on chlorophyll even spelling it wrong and not ONE hit for chloroform.

[msgatorslayer]

.....and once again Kathy Belich comes thru with THE question of the day:

“So, George, you're not worried about possible perjury charges?” WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked George Friday.

I hope Kathy Belich receives the Pulitzer Prize for her unrelenting reporting in this case. She consistently asks the questions that need to be asked.

:thumbsup:

When I was watching that video lastnight, all DH heard was the same voice, asking the same question, over and over again. He finally said, in an annoyed voice "Who the heck it that?"

I said, "That's Kathi, an Orlando reporter, who is a thorn in the Casey Anthony case".:thumbup:

She was reminding DH of NG, at that moment. And he can't stand NG. Makes Kathi that more loveable, IMO.:tongue:

[msgatorslayer]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21320358/detail.html

I did a search on chlorophyll even spelling it wrong and not ONE hit for chloroform.

I'm using Yahoo browser. As I type, C-H-L-O-R-O, when I get to that last O, the browser shows me possible choices. The first being Chlorophyll and the second is Chloroform. Followed by Chloroplast.

[farrahrani]

I'm using Yahoo browser. As I type, C-H-L-O-R-O, when I get to that last O, the browser shows me possible choices. The first being Chlorophyll and the second is Chloroform. Followed by Chloroplast.

Yahoo browser or Yahoo search engine? I have yahoo plugins for my browsers, which is firefox. I sometimes use Yahoo search engine page.

But mostly I use google search, which is what Casey used. And google does not offer that substitute, it will only substitute things that are similar if you already typed them (though that may be a firefox thing for all I know)

[BettyC]

I'm using Yahoo browser. As I type, C-H-L-O-R-O, when I get to that last O, the browser shows me possible choices. The first being Chlorophyll and the second is Chloroform. Followed by Chloroplast.

But wasn't the search more specific? As in "how to make chloroform"?


eta: Good Morning everyone.

[msgatorslayer]

Yahoo browser or Yahoo search engine? I have yahoo plugins for my browsers, which is firefox. I sometimes use Yahoo search engine page.

But mostly I use google search, which is what Casey used. And google does not offer that substitute, it will only substitute things that are similar if you already typed them (though that may be a firefox thing for all I know)

I'm using the browser.

I think we all know that Cindy is lying anyway. IMO, she simply came up with a word that is close to chloroform, and a story as to why she was looking that word up. It doesn't mean that she actually searched, as she said she did. If she did do any searches, I'm sure she went to a secret 'bat room' and used a non-Anthony computer, lol.

[Neffy]

I'm using Yahoo browser. As I type, C-H-L-O-R-O, when I get to that last O, the browser shows me possible choices. The first being Chlorophyll and the second is Chloroform. Followed by Chloroplast.

My SBC doesn't hit

[msgatorslayer]

But wasn't the search more specific? As in "how to make chloroform"?


eta: Good Morning everyone.

Morning, BC.

Yes, it was. And Cindy denies that she looked up how to make it.

She's just trying to toss a little reasonable doubt out there and hope it sticks. That it MAY have been the searches she was doing.:sneaky:

[Neffy]

I'm using the browser.

I think we all know that Cindy is lying anyway. IMO, she simply came up with a word that is close to chloroform, and a story as to why she was looking that word up. It doesn't mean that she actually searched, as she said she did. If she did do any searches, I'm sure she went to a secret 'bat room' and used a non-Anthony computer, lol.

Yea the bat computer, forgot. I hear ya! So Cindy looks up chloraphyl and why. Because it's like chloroform and she had to find something to spring Casey on. Yea this was a day search so Cindy must have a go to my pc to be at work and call into her home computer to do the search. Give her an inch and she'll take and take and take.

[Sun]

10/15/2009 Notice of Filing Notice of Filing FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA

Oh, John Morgan seems to be on the ball. Here is the latest entry on the Clerk of Courts records for the Civil Case. I have no clue what this is in regards to, but I hope that the media will eventually let us know.

[Neffy]

But wasn't the search more specific? As in "how to make chloroform"?


eta: Good Morning everyone.

Hi Bet! LOL details, details.

Hey haven't heard or seen Lav anywhere

[Pierre]

10/15/2009 Notice of Filing Notice of Filing FERNANDEZ-GONZALEZ ZENAIDA

Oh, John Morgan seems to be on the ball. Here is the latest entry on the Clerk of Courts records for the Civil Case. I have no clue what this is in regards to, but I hope that the media will eventually let us know.

IDK but maybe it has to do with Deposing dominick Casey?

[Sun]

IDK but maybe it has to do with Deposing dominick Casey?

I don't think that is it. DCasey is scheduled for a Nov depo.

Just looking at the date, I'm almost wondering if it could have something to do with the depos that the State released of George, Cindy, and Lee. If so, Casey's defense has to be infuriated!

[msgatorslayer]

Yea the bat computer, forgot. I hear ya! So Cindy looks up chloraphyl and why. Because it's like chloroform and she had to find something to spring Casey on. Yea this was a day search so Cindy must have a go to my pc to be at work and call into her home computer to do the search. Give her an inch and she'll take and take and take.

The bamboo is the root of all evil for the Anthony's.

It got Casey in trouble with the shovel. {Hey, I sound like Sue Moss, lol} And now it's the cause of the chloroform searches. Yeah, right!:cursing:

Cindy's story is preposterous. Not only wasn't she home at the time of the search, this is a woman who has owned dogs for a very long time.

However, she didn't know what was making her dog sick? PFFT!!

And wth is up with her and the bamboo? She couldn't say the dogs were chewing grass. She just had to blame it on the bamboo!!

[Pam1569]

Jose Baez


http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21317868/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;p=news&dm=ss&tn=b

Good morning MoM

Last night at the 6pm news on wesh they interviewed the possible witness for the defense. She is located on this slideshow on pics 3 and 4. She is the one with really red hair and a purple shirt against the building behind the defense and the cameras. It is no other than Joy Wray. :w00t:

Wesh asked her if she was willing to testify that Caylee was not there in the woods. She stated that yes she is willing to do this all for Caylee and she was not in the woods back in November. This is not verbatim since I saw this last night. Sorry if this has already been posted.

[BettyC]

Good morning MoM

Last night at the 6pm news on wesh they interviewed the possible witness for the defense. She is located on this slideshow on pics 3 and 4. She is the one with really red hair and a purple shirt against the building behind the defense and the cameras. It is no other than Joy Wray. :w00t:

Wesh asked her if she was willing to testify that Caylee was not there in the woods. She stated that yes she is willing to do this all for Caylee and she was not in the woods back in November. This is not verbatim since I saw this last night. Sorry if this has already been posted.

OMG, go for it Jose.

Thanks Pam, I hadn't heard about this.

[Neffy]

Cindy is lying thru her teeth about the house keys and Zanny. How can she tell such bold face lies. The Zanny had a key was all created after the fact.

I also have the impression Casey must have locked Caylee in a hot car before. NO one brings up the fact or carrys an extra key in their pocket off of their key chain to make sure they can get into a car incase they locks themselves out UNLESS this has happened before.

[KatieLady]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21320358/detail.html

I did a search on chlorophyll even spelling it wrong and not ONE hit for chloroform.

Just another coinky dink :rolleyes:

Cindy's deposition transcript, that she claimed she might have done a computer search on how to make chloroform accidentally while researching chlorophyll.

[Pierre]

Good morning MoM

Last night at the 6pm news on wesh they interviewed the possible witness for the defense. She is located on this slideshow on pics 3 and 4. She is the one with really red hair and a purple shirt against the building behind the defense and the cameras. It is no other than Joy Wray. :w00t:

Wesh asked her if she was willing to testify that Caylee was not there in the woods. She stated that yes she is willing to do this all for Caylee and she was not in the woods back in November. This is not verbatim since I saw this last night. Sorry if this has already been posted.

I saw that also this morning, I thought she said she WAS in the woods in november. Imagine Equa search ends up with someone like her, taking pics and all.

I had this thought this morning:
Judge Stan right before Cindy takes the stand; "Mrs Anthony you are about to swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but I have declared you a hostile witness and at the beginning of this case I said the truth and miss anthony are strangers. Well , I believe that the truth and you are also strangers. And repeat for GA
Oh hey, I can hope cant I?

[jammies]

Casey's job when she had one was the same as working the concession at a theme park. Other then taking a picture on the spot she took no other pictures. Those rides are automatic pictures snapped at a certain point. Cindy goes over the top with Casey being a "photographer". Completely over glorifies it. Same with Lee and his job at the Sentinel. Cold call sales. Georges security watch aka the night watchman. These are all job with minimum training and skills needed.

Casey could have applied at numerous agencys for state assistance in child care as she's never made over minimum wage. She could have worked part-time at minimum, went to school and recieved assistance.

She did't bother.


Excellent post, Neff. Never fails to amaze me how this family views themselves. They can never tell the simple truth w/o wild exaggeration and delusion.

On top of everything else, they STILL speak of Casey's "job" as if it were REAL.

[Pierre]

I don't think that is it. DCasey is scheduled for a Nov depo.

Just looking at the date, I'm almost wondering if it could have something to do with the depos that the State released of George, Cindy, and Lee. If so, Casey's defense has to be infuriated!

The Nov. depo is with LE then?
Can M&M compare notes from each depo and charge them with lying or falsifying info?

[Duke]

The bamboo is the root of all evil for the Anthony's.

It got Casey in trouble with the shovel. {Hey, I sound like Sue Moss, lol} And now it's the cause of the chloroform searches. Yeah, right!:cursing:

Cindy's story is preposterous. Not only wasn't she home at the time of the search, this is a woman who has owned dogs for a very long time.

However, she didn't know what was making her dog sick? PFFT!!

And wth is up with her and the bamboo? She couldn't say the dogs were chewing grass. She just had to blame it on the bamboo!!

Geez, if my dog was sick I would have never thought to look up chloroform. My 1st action would be to call the vet and get their opinion. And yes, she wasn't even home at the time:cursing:

[Pam1569]

Cindy is lying thru her teeth about the house keys and Zanny. How can she tell such bold face lies. The Zanny had a key was all created after the fact.

I also have the impression Casey must have locked Caylee in a hot car before. NO one brings up the fact or carrys an extra key in their pocket off of their key chain to make sure they can get into a car incase they locks themselves out UNLESS this has happened before.

GM Neffy, IIRC didn't Lee say in his jail visit to his sister "Was it just like before". I wonder now if this was his exact thought and that is why he asked her such an unusual question. :confused: jmo

[Pat]

Good morning MoM

Last night at the 6pm news on wesh they interviewed the possible witness for the defense. She is located on this slideshow on pics 3 and 4. She is the one with really red hair and a purple shirt against the building behind the defense and the cameras. It is no other than Joy Wray. :w00t:

Wesh asked her if she was willing to testify that Caylee was not there in the woods. She stated that yes she is willing to do this all for Caylee and she was not in the woods back in November. This is not verbatim since I saw this last night. Sorry if this has already been posted.

Is this "possible witness for the defense" even credible? From what I've read about her, couldn't this ploy blow up in Baez's face? I would imagine the State could pretty much destroy her credibility on the stand, couldn't they?

[Neffy]

GM Neffy, IIRC didn't Lee say in his jail visit to his sister "Was it just like before". I wonder now if this was his exact thought and that is why he asked her such an unusual question. :confused: jmo

I agree. I"m sure this is what happened.

Why would an independantly wealthy Nanny (eyeroll) need a key to the Anthony home. Casey also claims never a need for clothing, diapers NOTHING Zanny had it all. Now she has a key? To what put duct tape on Georges gas can???? GMAB!

Do these people EVER listen to themselves. The story du jour doesn't mesh with yesterdays soup, or the day before, and so on and on and on

It's obvious to EVERYONE what extreme liars they all are. Utterly humiliating you'd think. But nope, they just keep it up.

[Pam1569]

I saw that also this morning, I thought she said she WAS in the woods in november. Imagine Equa search ends up with someone like her, taking pics and all.

I had this thought this morning:
Judge Stan right before Cindy takes the stand; "Mrs Anthony you are about to swear to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but I have declared you a hostile witness and at the beginning of this case I said the truth and miss anthony are strangers. Well , I believe that the truth and you are also strangers. And repeat for GA
Oh hey, I can hope cant I?

GM Pierre, No problem in hoping imo. I heard her say that she wasn't in the woods and Baez stated yesterday in the court room that he and his team still had to go thru the Equusearch records in order to verify what this person had to say was true and correct. I believe that is why Strickland gave them til Feb. 1st to get their new witness list to the court with their evidence. jmo

[*Serenity*]

So much for Casey being concerned about finding her daughter-- per Cindy when Casey arrived back home that first night after being with LE she goes straight to her room and does what.............??? She gets on the phone with TonE for over an hour, and Cindy overheard her talking about $14,000 and then proceeded to make Casey get off the phone--- and why....? BECAUSE they needed to work on ways to find Caylee, oh yea... Casey knew where Caylee was.

Just like the first jail house phone call home.... no concern about Caylee it was give me TonE's number....!!

[Sun]

The Nov. depo is with LE then?
Can M&M compare notes from each depo and charge them with lying or falsifying info?

Yes, LE is scheduled to depo DCasey in November. Morgan has a court hearing date in january in regards to DCasey though.

[KatieLady]

Is this "possible witness for the defense" even credible? From what I've read about her, couldn't this ploy blow up in Baez's face? I would imagine the State could pretty much destroy her credibility on the stand, couldn't they?

IIRC Didn't she have some mental problems???

[Pam1569]

Is this "possible witness for the defense" even credible? From what I've read about her, couldn't this ploy blow up in Baez's face? I would imagine the State could pretty much destroy her credibility on the stand, couldn't they?

GM Pat, What hasn't so far blown up in the defense face? They are grasping at straws. IMO if they do use Joy Wray as their witness it will be another of their down falls. LDB will have a field day with her on the stand just like Mr. and Mrs. Anthony. jmo

[BettyC]

GM Neffy, IIRC didn't Lee say in his jail visit to his sister "Was it just like before". I wonder now if this was his exact thought and that is why he asked her such an unusual question. :confused: jmo

I think it's so clear now that all three of the Anthonys would be willing to lie on the stand. As George said, he'd do anything to get his daughter out of jail.

It will be so interesting to see how the prosecutors deal with them in court.

[*Serenity*]

I agree. I"m sure this is what happened.

Why would an independantly wealthy Nanny (eyeroll) need a key to the Anthony home. Casey also claims never a need for clothing, diapers NOTHING Zanny had it all. Now she has a key? To what put duct tape on Georges gas can???? GMAB!

Do these people EVER listen to themselves. The story du jour doesn't mesh with yesterdays soup, or the day before, and so on and on and on

It's obvious to EVERYONE what extreme liars they all are. Utterly humiliating you'd think. But nope, they just keep it up.

Zanny didn't need a car seat either--- lol because Cindy was going to buy her one but oh yea.... Jeff Hopkins bought Caylee a pink one for Zanny -- wonder if Zacharey had a blue one? OMG she is so off the flipping wall. Well not she-- all of em' really!!

[Pam1569]

I agree. I"m sure this is what happened.

Why would an independantly wealthy Nanny (eyeroll) need a key to the Anthony home. Casey also claims never a need for clothing, diapers NOTHING Zanny had it all. Now she has a key? To what put duct tape on Georges gas can???? GMAB!

Do these people EVER listen to themselves. The story du jour doesn't mesh with yesterdays soup, or the day before, and so on and on and on

It's obvious to EVERYONE what extreme liars they all are. Utterly humiliating you'd think. But nope, they just keep it up.

Neffy, It is almost like a never ending story to me. New day new lie. To them, imo, it doesn't matter at all what they say, but there is going to be some kind of charges in the end of this trial for them. jmo

[*Serenity*]

IIRC Didn't she have some mental problems???

Baker Acted 4-5 times, but nothing serious. :lol:

[BettyC]

IIRC Didn't she have some mental problems???

It should be noted that Joy Wray admitted to me of being baker acted 5 times.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2009/0612/19735490.pdf

Page 43

[msgatorslayer]

I think it's so clear now that all three of the Anthonys would be willing to lie on the stand. As George said, he'd do anything to get his daughter out of jail.

It will be so interesting to see how the prosecutors deal with them in court.

THEY have made this case what it has turned out to be. A true-crime soap opera. I really believe w/o the Anthony family, this case wouldn't be as high interest as it is.

[KatieLady]

Baker Acted 4-5 times, but nothing serious. :lol:

:lol: that is what I thought!

[*Serenity*]

Neffy, It is almost like a never ending story to me. New day new lie. To them, imo, it doesn't matter at all what they say, but there is going to be some kind of charges in the end of this trial for them. jmo

Did you read Cindy's spin when the State ask her about the email she authored in regards to Caylee's hairbrush/toothbrush? That must have been the email that Cindy sent to the wrong peeps, and it ended up with a reporter who in return sent it to LE/FBI. The email where she was bragging about not giving LE Caylee's exclusive hair brush in her bathroom. Oopsy... suddenly she regained her memory and thought about that when Casey & Baez needed items. :rolleyes:

[Pam1569]

So much for Casey being concerned about finding her daughter-- per Cindy when Casey arrived back home that first night after being with LE she goes straight to her room and does what.............??? She gets on the phone with TonE for over an hour, and Cindy overheard her talking about $14,000 and then proceeded to make Casey get off the phone--- and why....? BECAUSE they needed to work on ways to find Caylee, oh yea... Casey knew where Caylee was.

Just like the first jail house phone call home.... no concern about Caylee it was give me TonE's number....!!

GM Serenity, If this indeed happened, then LE should have the recording, because they did have his phone tapped. Didn't LE or am I getting it wrong and they hadn't yet placed the tap on his phone yet? So much info out there can't remember. tia

[KatieLady]

It should be noted that Joy Wray admitted to me of being baker acted 5 times.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2009/0612/19735490.pdf

Page 43

Thanks Betty....she will be a great witness for Casey :lol:

[Pam1569]

I think it's so clear now that all three of the Anthonys would be willing to lie on the stand. As George said, he'd do anything to get his daughter out of jail.

It will be so interesting to see how the prosecutors deal with them in court.

Betty, Interesting to say the least. :laugh: But the state did give use immunity to Lee, so imo they feel he is the least of their worries. jmo

[*Serenity*]

GM Serenity, If this indeed happened, then LE should have the recording, because they did have his phone tapped. Didn't LE or am I getting it wrong and they hadn't yet placed the tap on his phone yet? So much info out there can't remember. tia

This was the very first night and no taps in place yet. AND when Casey called him from jail he wouldn't take the call. Some missed opportunity there....! They did get Lee on video tape with TonE and of course Lee was playing private investigator and playing everyone against each other to dig up some dirt on them. :rolleyes:

[Neffy]

Baker Acted 4-5 times, but nothing serious. :lol:

:laugh: Whew!

Just got to the part in Cindy's depo searching for chlorophyl and how she spelled it. She used google. I just tried and nope no chloroform comes up.

Fact is only one reason for all of them to lie. To cover for and spring Casey.

[jammies]

ITA - Casey had plenty of resources. Much more, IMO, than many young, single mothers. Her parents supported her so fully that she was able to 'fake work' for a very long time. And they babysat so she could go out and party, and play with her boyfriends.

There were plenty of additional resources Casey could have received, if she tried and put an effort into it.

Naming the daddy would have enabled her to get child support. If she stopped living in her dream world of being an 'event planner' with a nanny, making so much money, she could have applied for financial aid to go to school. To get food stamps. REAL child care in the form governement assisted child care, sorry, no nanny's here. However, in order to get some of these resources, she would have had to get off her lazy azz and get a real job!!! One that could be proven!!!

Apparently, she didn't have the need to do any of those things. Why get a job when it was perfectly acceptable that she stole from the rest of her family? They seemed to have no real problem being ripped off. No consequences and at times not even a confrontation. She lied about working at Sports Authority? Well, don't rock the boat and upset her by calling her on her lies! No big deal.
Not until Granny's checks were stolen did Cindy get upset....but even then, she said it was between her mother and Casey to work out! Who is she kidding? Cindy paid her mother back NOT Casey.
Casey steals from Lee. Almost $300 which probably took him a year to save at his minimum wage job...but that was a mere blip in their household.

She learned she could get away with it as long as she only stole within the confines of her immediate family. Their answer over and over was "if she needed something she could have asked and we would have given it to her" HUH? Why would they have to give her a DIME when she had no bills to pay? Free rent, free car, free food, free babysitting, free upbringing of her child.
Yet they still pretend to this day that she "worked".

If they can't admit the simple fact that she didn't have a job then everything else out of their mouths is suspect, IMO.

EVERYTHING!

[Sun]

Zanny didn't need a car seat either--- lol because Cindy was going to buy her one but oh yea.... Jeff Hopkins bought Caylee a pink one for Zanny -- wonder if Zacharey had a blue one? OMG she is so off the flipping wall. Well not she-- all of em' really!!

Can you imagine what a jury will think, if they hear Cindy spinning this tale?

[spydernweb2006]

I hope, wish and pray that the Anthony Family gets serious jail time for all the lies. I think using the depo's against the FBI interviews would be more then sufficient to prove the lies. If they wanna play this lets lie to get Casey free game, then I hope they are held accountable for their actions.

JMHO

hugs,
Spyder

[*Serenity*]

Betty, Interesting to say the least. :laugh: But the state did give use immunity to Lee, so imo they feel he is the least of their worries. jmo

Immunity was also discussed for Cindy-- the very last pages of part 2 go into details about them discussing this, and she is not worried about anything and didn't ask for it-- of course her Brad may have because he is protecting his clients. Crock a doodle doo..... :biggrin:

[Pam1569]

THEY have made this case what it has turned out to be. A true-crime soap opera. I really believe w/o the Anthony family, this case wouldn't be as high interest as it is.

GM msgator, ITA with you. The Anthony's and the defense team have been on so many shows and interviews with the media that the circus has started with them and intentionally imo. If they had all stayed quiet this case we be in the breeze and we wouldn't have heard about it again until the trial was actually taking place. jmo

[Pierre]

GM Pierre, No problem in hoping imo. I heard her say that she wasn't in the woods and Baez stated yesterday in the court room that he and his team still had to go thru the Equusearch records in order to verify what this person had to say was true and correct. I believe that is why Strickland gave them til Feb. 1st to get their new witness list to the court with their evidence. jmo

Even if they dont put Wray on the stand and IMO they prolly wont, the point is it gets in the media and its just one more way to pollute.


Hate to be O/t do they have a recipe thread any more? they used to,
Im on my own today and its chilli here, so chilli it is...the only thing I know how to do is turn on the crock pot, and it will be perfect for tonite TV show.

[Neffy]

THEY have made this case what it has turned out to be. A true-crime soap opera. I really believe w/o the Anthony family, this case wouldn't be as high interest as it is.

ABSOLUTELY!! Cindy is the draw. She's the queen of compulsive lying and distortion. It's the obvious manner she does it in is what's so bizarre. A side show that's gotten top billing. They have it all over the Osborne's or the Anna Nicole Smith show. More like the show Jack (I don't know if I can say that here but were talking about the mule) and stupid stunts tried).

[*Serenity*]

:laugh: Whew!

Just got to the part in Cindy's depo searching for chlorophyl and how she spelled it. She used google. I just tried and nope no chloroform comes up.

Fact is only one reason for all of them to lie. To cover for and spring Casey.

Well Neffy, according to Georgie he will sell his soul to the devil to get his green monster out of jail..... and looks like all 3 of them already sold to the devil long ago.... I guess I didn't realize they are reading and going through all the discovery to create new lies to cover for Casey.
Everything that pops up new to them-- they rewrite the story accordingly...!!

[Pam1569]

Did you read Cindy's spin when the State ask her about the email she authored in regards to Caylee's hairbrush/toothbrush? That must have been the email that Cindy sent to the wrong peeps, and it ended up with a reporter who in return sent it to LE/FBI. The email where she was bragging about not giving LE Caylee's exclusive hair brush in her bathroom. Oopsy... suddenly she regained her memory and thought about that when Casey & Baez needed items. :rolleyes:

Serenity, Yes I did. It was Kathi that received that e-mail and turned it over to the FBI. The e-mail from Cindy to the PR guy was supposedly hacked IIRC. She can put spins on everything, nut when it comes down to it when she is in front of the jury they are going to dismiss what she says and her credibility with them will be out the window. jmo

[ladeebug565]

"However, the bigger picture, Kirwin said, is the socio-political issue of the amount of support and resources available to women, calling it as much an issue for women and feminists as it is crime."


You have no idea how much that pi$$es me off. This was NOT a women's resource issue. Casey had family and friends to watch her kid, and NO job, not because she couldn't find one due to lack of childcare but because she was freaking lazy.

When I got my divorce, after ten years of being a housewife I had NO resources. NO sitter, NO job, NO job references and no way to get a job. God knows I applied till my fingers bled from typing applications. Not ONCE did I consider harming my children to 'have a life' A lot of women who are in dire straits who have boyfriends do not harm their kids.

YES, there is a huge problem for women with children and the lack of available childcare in this country. But it should not be dragged into this case. I am hoping that article is very old, probably written at the beginning of this case, because I would hate to think anyone would write such drivel knowing Casey had no job and sitters at her disposal.

All excellent points. I was widowed at age 31 with a 5 yr old daughter. While I didn't struggle financially, I knew that my child came first. She went to day care, my parents and my late mother-in-law would watch her so I could go out occasionally to so socialize.

Had Casey actually worked for Universal, she would have had access to affordable day care and other assorted benefits, per their website's description of employee benefits.

You're right about the laziness. She couldn't go back to school for a measly 1/2 credit or whatever it was. She couldn't get off her butt and get a job. She was even too lazy to pursue the real father for financial support. If the real father actually died in an accident, Caylee may have been entitled to some dependent Social Security benefit. That would require the completion of some dna testing and paperwork....exhausting.

Casey took after her dad. He was lazy, mostly unemployed and wanted to find an easy way to make money (gambling, internet scheme, bogus foundation, prostituting his granddaughter's memory). He might not have been a thief, but certainly an irresponsible, lying adult, parent and grandparent.

[Pierre]

Geez, if my dog was sick I would have never thought to look up chloroform. My 1st action would be to call the vet and get their opinion. And yes, she wasn't even home at the time:cursing:

It would be more likely the dog would be chewing on dirt than bamboo.
But If I lived there I might chew on deadly sharp bamboo!:biggrin:

[*Serenity*]

Serenity, Yes I did. It was Kathi that received that e-mail and turned it over to the FBI. The e-mail from Cindy to the PR guy was supposedly hacked IIRC. She can put spins on everything, nut when it comes down to it when she is in front of the jury they are going to dismiss what she says and her credibility with them will be out the window. jmo

The State will rip them a new one on the stand.....and Cindy won't be able to go into those long drawn out stories. I love when LB asks Cindy: and what does this have to do with the question!! Baez was so pizzed about the LB asking Cindy questions about the video/photos going out of the house-- Baez told Cindy NO NO NO.... then don't don't don't and then finally zip it...!! LMAO She wanted to tell a whopper I bet or part of another half truth on that issue.

[Neffy]

Well Neffy, according to Georgie he will sell his soul to the devil to get his green monster out of jail..... and looks like all 3 of them already sold to the devil long ago.... I guess I didn't realize they are reading and going through all the discovery to create new lies to cover for Casey.
Everything that pops up new to them-- they rewrite the story accordingly...!!


Yep. Gives a whole new meaning to their religiousness. The religiously lie about everything.

Their downfall is their lies don't connect. One lie will counteract another lie they told. Then they tell another lie to fix that then it throws another lie off. So now we have a garbage dump of lies that are meaningless. They stand on their own but the lead in and lead out doesn't jive.

Phenominal!

[Duke]

Cindy is lying thru her teeth about the house keys and Zanny. How can she tell such bold face lies. The Zanny had a key was all created after the fact.

I also have the impression Casey must have locked Caylee in a hot car before. NO one brings up the fact or carrys an extra key in their pocket off of their key chain to make sure they can get into a car incase they locks themselves out UNLESS this has happened before.

Who in their right mind would give a stranger that you never met a key to your house? Nutten but lies. Cindy R you reading this? Rick and the rest of the family that is not involved in this should be hidding out.

[Pierre]

THEY have made this case what it has turned out to be. A true-crime soap opera. I really believe w/o the Anthony family, this case wouldn't be as high interest as it is.

I do believe the sunshine law has alot to do with it. Yes we have the right to know whats going on, but they go on all these shows after doc dumps. How many greiving parents and people go on national Tv and plead for whatever it is. and how much of what They say can be verified? If we didnt have any documents released, we would not know how and to what extent these people are lying.
They really should have gagged this case. Everyday someone new comes out of the woodwork and they then have to be interviewed and verified.
The state of FL is in bad shape unemployment becoming one of the highest, continued job loss. Its just sad the amount of money spent on this all because Casey cant just admit it FGS. The only reason for the lies is because the truth will not set Casey free. MOO

[Pat]

Even if they dont put Wray on the stand and IMO they prolly wont, the point is it gets in the media and its just one more way to pollute.




I'd be more concerned about it, but after following the Melanie McGuire case (here and on CTV) and being told what a great defense attorney Joe Tacopina was, how Melanie was "so pretty", and how there was "no evidence", she'd never be convicted, I'm not worried about Casey. Good old Joe tried the "she passed the poly" announcement to the press on the Friday afternoon of a holiday weekend, knowing the prosecution couldn't bring it up when court reconvened, hoping it would taint the jury, but it didn't work.

I am confident Casey end up either with the DP or LWOP. She's such a worthy candidate, just like Miz Mel.

There is simply no way to get around those 31 days of not reporting Caylee missing. Add to that Casey's total unconcern for Caylee once it became public, and it is just icing on the cake. All the rest of the circus behavior will be forgotten once everyone is in the courtroom and the jury of Casey's peers actually get to listen to the State's case and watch Casey's performance at the witness table.

In my opinion, of course. :laugh:

[Pam1569]

The State will rip them a new one on the stand.....and Cindy won't be able to go into those long drawn out stories. I love when LB asks Cindy: and what does this have to do with the question!! Baez was so pizzed about the LB asking Cindy questions about the video/photos going out of the house-- Baez told Cindy NO NO NO.... then don't don't don't and then finally zip it...!! LMAO She wanted to tell a whopper I bet or part of another half truth on that issue.

Serenity, I am sure that LDB will directly ask her questions and if she doesn't and goes on a stray she will be stopped by LDB and re asked the question and Strickland will have to also inform her just answer the question. Strickland did this to George when he was on the witness stand at the hearing before last. So I have no doubt that her story telling days on the stand with the prosecution asking the questions will be done with, but I am sure also that the defense will re ask and let her go on with her story. jmo

[jammies]

I wish Kathi B. were the fill in host on NG.


thought for the day. :biggrin:

[summer4meplz]

So much for Casey being concerned about finding her daughter-- per Cindy when Casey arrived back home that first night after being with LE she goes straight to her room and does what.............??? She gets on the phone with TonE for over an hour, and Cindy overheard her talking about $14,000 and then proceeded to make Casey get off the phone--- and why....? BECAUSE they needed to work on ways to find Caylee, oh yea... Casey knew where Caylee was.

Just like the first jail house phone call home.... no concern about Caylee it was give me TonE's number....!!

I'm a little behind but I thought TonE said he never talked to her again?

[Pam1569]

I do believe the sunshine law has alot to do with it. Yes we have the right to know whats going on, but they go on all these shows after doc dumps. How many greiving parents and people go on national Tv and plead for whatever it is. and how much of what They say can be verified? If we didnt have any documents released, we would not know how and to what extent these people are lying.
They really should have gagged this case. Everyday someone new comes out of the woodwork and they then have to be interviewed and verified.
The state of FL is in bad shape unemployment becoming one of the highest, continued job loss. Its just sad the amount of money spent on this all because Casey cant just admit it FGS. The only reason for the lies is because the truth will not set Casey free. MOO

BBM
Pierre, I don't think that she ever has the intention of doing this. She has costs many people money before and doesn't care. jmo
Another thing about the gag. If IIRC Baez won no gag because of a lawyers first amendment right, but I think that because there was no gag that it will make the COV a moot point, because of their media interviews on the defense side. jmo

[*Serenity*]

I'm a little behind but I thought TonE said he never talked to her again?
He didn't after she was arrested on a flippin whim....! :biggrin: But I guess she called him after she LE was finished with her that first night...I would need to check the phone/text records and of course we are dealing with Cindy said and then the $14,000 that she overheard. I do recall Casey telling TonE she had money stashed for a back up plan.

[Pierre]

I'd be more concerned about it, but after following the Melanie McGuire case (here and on CTV) and being told what a great defense attorney Joe Tacopina was, how Melanie was "so pretty", and how there was "no evidence", she'd never be convicted, I'm not worried about Casey. Good old Joe tried the "she passed the poly" announcement to the press on the Friday afternoon of a holiday weekend, knowing the prosecution couldn't bring it up when court reconvened, hoping it would taint the jury, but it didn't work.

I am confident Casey end up either with the DP or LWOP. She's such a worthy candidate, just like Miz Mel.

There is simply no way to get around those 31 days of not reporting Caylee missing. Add to that Casey's total unconcern for Caylee once it became public, and it is just icing on the cake. All the rest of the circus behavior will be forgotten once everyone is in the courtroom and the jury of Casey's peers actually get to listen to the State's case and watch Casey's performance at the witness table.

In my opinion, of course. :laugh:

my bold; ya I thought about that after yesterdays hearing, the pros should make a point to mention Caylees name all they can. Because I dont think Casey can control her face and the jury will be starring at her the whole time. From LB mentioning Caylee ONCE Casey couldnt help her face. People think Casey blames Cindy for being in Jail, but I also think she blames Caylee too.

[*Serenity*]

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21315101/detail.html

Everytime I look at these photos I get even more pi$$ed off.

[Pierre]

I wish Kathi B. were the fill in host on NG.


thought for the day. :biggrin:
she would be great to take over
as long as she doesnt plan on having kids, especially twins! LOL!
Maybe she will have her own show one day, But I remember allot of people started out like her. Hiraldo used to be good and would ask the tough questions, look at him now.

[Pam1569]

my bold; ya I thought about that after yesterdays hearing, the pros should make a point to mention Caylees name all they can. Because I dont think Casey can control her face and the jury will be starring at her the whole time. From LB mentioning Caylee ONCE Casey couldnt help her face. People think Casey blames Cindy for being in Jail, but I also think she blames Caylee too.

Pierre, Exactly! She was furious that LDB said that she was protecting Caylee and didn't care about the family. That made her so mad about it that she scrunched up her lips and then had to speak to Lyon and then be consolled by Lyon. That is not going to go well at all with the jury. And it was perfect timing by LDB to do this since Baez had to stress that his client was next of kin. :laugh:

[BettyC]

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21315101/detail.html

Everytime I look at these photos I get even more pi$$ed off.

I have a male cousin in SC who I am slowly roping into following this case. He emailed me after the hearing to ask what in the world she had to laugh about in court?

I sent him a link to the latest depositions of the Anthony family so he could be introduced to them.

[Pierre]

BBM
Pierre, I don't think that she ever has the intention of doing this. She has costs many people money before and doesn't care. jmo
Another thing about the gag. If IIRC Baez won no gag because of a lawyers first amendment right, but I think that because there was no gag that it will make the COV a moot point, because of their media interviews on the defense side. jmo
Translated; we have to get money from somewhere.
Oh Baez hasnt sold any "story" alright. Cindy and George sell the "story" and throw in a few pic's for Baez and Casey. Funny someone forgot about Casey and her snacks.

[*Serenity*]

I have a male cousin in SC who I am slowly roping into following this case. He emailed me after the hearing to ask what in the world she had to laugh about in court?

I sent him a link to the latest depositions of the Anthony family so he could be introduced to them.
She has laughed quite a few times in the court room and played little games with Baez. I recall the day she was in court with Bun Lady up-do and she was laughing. I truly think she believes she will walk away from all of this and make a lot of $$$....!! She is still not getting it in my opinion- and of course her attorney is reinforcing this for her--he doesn't need to get fired before he uses her all up for his 'free' advertising.

[Pat]

<snipped> Funny someone forgot about Casey and her snacks.

:lol:

Evidently her fan club has disbanded...and what about George's contributions? Have his regular deposits stopped?

I guess with both Cindy and George on disability and Lee having to support them both, the well has run dry. Too bad for Caylee that well didn't dry up long before now. Had Cindy and George put their foot down about the stealing Casey did years ago, we wouldn't be following this particular case. Not that I don't believe Casey wouldn't have had a criminal record...I firmly believe she would have.

MO

[KatieLady]

:lol:

Evidently her fan club has disbanded...and what about George's contributions? Have his regular deposits stopped?

I guess with both Cindy and George on disability and Lee having to support them both, the well has run dry. Too bad for Caylee that well didn't dry up long before now. Had Cindy and George put their foot down about the stealing Casey did years ago, we wouldn't be following this particular case. Not that I don't believe Casey wouldn't have had a criminal record...I firmly believe she would have.

MO



What I don't get is why/how has Mallory stuck around for so long!

[Pierre]

What I don't get is why/how has Mallory stuck around for so long!

she about to get depo'd so mabe that will change.
Someone else posted so she could write a book?

[*Serenity*]

What I don't get is why/how has Mallory stuck around for so long!

She must have very low self esteem issues--seriously!
AND Lee informed her from his depo that she is #4 in his
book because his 3-CMA ladies come first...!

[Pierre]

She must have very low self esteem issues--seriously!
AND Lee informed her from his depo that she is #4 in his
book because his 3-CMA ladies come first...!

well she can move up to #2 Caylees gone and Caseys going......and who puts their mother and sister before their GF or wife?

[KatieLady]

she about to get depo'd so mabe that will change.
Someone else posted so she could write a book?

Tell me it isn't so!!! Good grief...they are all going to profit from poor Caylee :sad:

[Duke]

It would be more likely the dog would be chewing on dirt than bamboo.
But If I lived there I might chew on deadly sharp bamboo!:biggrin:

The whole thought of KC chopping a bamboo down is just nuts. She has lived a life of lies. I cannot believe she would actually go out and contribute to the lawn. Is there anywhere in anyone's depo that KC was a nut about keeping the house yard work up? If she did this regularly then I could believe it. She acts like she is a princess and I just can’t see her jumping up one day to take care of the yard.

IMO and I have been here in FL for years, I have never seen bamboo growing randomly in my yard. I have no knowledge that bamboo seeds float in the air so maybe I am wrong that they do and plant themselves.

[Duke]

It would be more likely the dog would be chewing on dirt than bamboo.
But If I lived there I might chew on deadly sharp bamboo!:biggrin:


Pierre, No chew chew on the bam bo boo. :tonguewag:

[KatieLady]

The whole thought of KC chopping a bamboo down is just nuts. She has lived a life of lies. I cannot believe she would actually go out and contribute to the lawn. Is there anywhere in anyone's depo that KC was a nut about keeping the house yard work up? If she did this regularly then I could believe it. She acts like she is a princess and I just can’t see her jumping up one day to take care of the yard.

IMO and I have been here in FL for years, I have never seen bamboo growing randomly in my yard. I have no knowledge that bamboo seeds float in the air so maybe I am wrong that they do and plant themselves.

Not in Fla but here in Calif...if it was ever planted in your yard it is almost impossible to get rid of it. And if your neighbor has it it will eventually creep into you yard.

IMO

[Pierre]

Pierre, No chew chew on the bam bo boo. :tonguewag:

I can hear susan moss: the story of the bamboo is poo!

[*Serenity*]

The whole thought of KC chopping a bamboo down is just nuts. She has lived a life of lies. I cannot believe she would actually go out and contribute to the lawn. Is there anywhere in anyone's depo that KC was a nut about keeping the house yard work up? If she did this regularly then I could believe it. She acts like she is a princess and I just can’t see her jumping up one day to take care of the yard.

IMO and I have been here in FL for years, I have never seen bamboo growing randomly in my yard. I have no knowledge that bamboo seeds float in the air so maybe I am wrong that they do and plant themselves.

According to Cindy-- Casey was/is lazy and kept everything in her room a mess. Cindy's depo she talks about how messy Casey's dresser drawers were. AND we know what a mess her car was with all that trash. Cindy also included Lee as being the same way and she just doesn't understand why they are like that because her and George are nothing like that. (( oh my... )) Guess she can't see how serious her OCD is with all that junk in her house-- I can't imagine having that much junk all over the place but maybe she thinks that is neat as pen.

[Duke]

Not in Fla but here in Calif...if it was ever planted in your yard it is almost impossible to get rid of it. And if your neighbor has it it will eventually creep into you yard.

IMO

Oh my and I was wrong:smile:. I would love bamboo in my yard personally to make a fishing pole out of it. Our yard is bleeding with Elephant plants so if anyone wants one I will mail ya one!

[*Serenity*]

well she can move up to #2 Caylees gone and Caseys going......and who puts their mother and sister before their GF or wife?

Lee Anthony... lol.....
Lee also stated that he is a 'Momma's Boy' at his depo and Casey was/is a 'Daddy's Girl'... imagine that. Guess they were in for a surprise (maybe not) when the stories came out about how much Casey hated both of them and they were nut-cases.

[Pam1569]

Lee Anthony... lol.....
Lee also stated that he is a 'Momma's Boy' at his depo and Casey was/is a 'Daddy's Girl'... imagine that. Guess they were in for a surprise (maybe not) when the stories came out about how much Casey hated both of them and they were nut-cases.

Serenity, By Lee stating that he is a Momma's Boy, means Mal will always be #2. imo Hope Mal can always be able to live by momma's rules, because if not then bye bye. jmo

[Duke]

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21315101/detail.html

Everytime I look at these photos I get even more pi$$ed off.

Yep, Pic # 4 gives me the hebe jebeeis. If I was up for DP then anything in court would be moot:mellow: I don’t think I could laugh at anything remotely funny. I would be balling the entire time if I was innocent.

[KatieLady]

Oh my and I was wrong:smile:. I would love bamboo in my yard personally to make a fishing pole out of it. Our yard is bleeding with Elephant plants so if anyone wants one I will mail ya one!

If you plant it....do it in a pot....I'm telling you it will take over! :scared:

[*Serenity*]

Serenity, By Lee stating that he is a Momma's Boy, means Mal will always be #2. imo Hope Mal can always be able to live by momma's rules, because if not then bye bye. jmo

Can you even imagine being involved in that family.... ?? I would run as fast as I could!! AND can you even imagine having a child with Lee Anthony and having the child around that family, much less letting George & Cindy ever babysit? Maybe Cindy can teach them how to let the baby fetch their own cereal and sippy cup then proceed to pop in their own movie while they sleep in.

[*Serenity*]

Yep, Pic # 4 gives me the hebe jebeeis. If I was up for DP then anything in court would be moot:mellow: I don’t think I could laugh at anything remotely funny. I would be balling the entire time if I was innocent.

LMAO .. look at photo #1 with her lips all pooched with that frown.
If you click on 16-17-18 -- one after the other it is really funny.

[Pam1569]

Can you even imagine being involved in that family.... ?? I would run as fast as I could!! AND can you even imagine having a child with Lee Anthony and having the child around that family, much less letting George & Cindy ever babysit? Maybe Cindy can teach them how to let the baby fetch their own cereal and sippy cup then proceed to pop in their own movie while they sleep in.

:lol: I am right there with you running.

[Scampi]

A couple of thoughts on the depos. I love how LE has managed to get the KC the promising photographer nonsense into evidence, when there is not one photo of Zanny the Nanny.

In lee's depo, I like how they bring up the fact that cynthia and george failed to call 911 at the first whiff of decomposition in that car.

I also noticed that nothing belonging to Caylee was ever found at Lazzaro's apartment, or in the car except for the carseat and diapers. So, where were Caylee's things if it's true that Zanny stole her from casey at Blanchard Park? She had 31 days and still couldn't figure out a credible story. IMO.

[*Serenity*]

:lol: I am right there with you running.

Casey will be flaming mad if Lee and Mal get married and have a child especially while she is locked up. Casey is extremely jealous about all they are doing while she is behind bars-- we just don't get to see it anymore. :) Remember: her life and everything has been taken from her and no one to comfort her except herself. :biggrin:

IIRC when she was out they went before the judge asking permission for Casey to attend a wedding, and of course to do private searches in order to find Caylee. She was arrested pretty soon after that request so the judge didn't get to rule on her new event planning.

[Duke]

LMAO .. look at photo #1 with her lips all pooched with that frown.
If you click on 16-17-18 -- one after the other it is really funny.

:w00t:
Your right. Number 17 is priceless, she looks like she has it in the bag. Once again I would not even be smi"a"ling like she does within the court room I was up for death row.

[AlohaRainbow]

hmmmm... reading through george's deposition - something he said reinforces my thought that (despite what casey told LE about being "afraid" of cindy, or whatever word she used) it was cindy who was "afraid" of "upsetting" casey with any kind of confrontation.

it's regarding when george went to sports authority and found out casey didn't work there. when he told cindy, he said that cindy said "why are you following our daughter around? you know what that's going to do to her? she's going to be irritated."
[george's deposition page 108, lines 17-20]

i can well imagine that cindy didn't want to irritate casey!
can't irritate ms casey now, can we :ohmy: must walk on eggshells around her lest she becomes irritated

[KatieLady]

hmmmm... reading through george's deposition - something he said reinforces my thought that (despite what casey told LE about being "afraid" of cindy, or whatever word she used) it was cindy who was "afraid" of "upsetting" casey with any kind of confrontation.

it's regarding when george went to sports authority and found out casey didn't work there. when he told cindy, he said that cindy said "why are you following our daughter around? you know what that's going to do to her? she's going to be irritated."
[george's deposition page 108, lines 17-20]

i can well imagine that cindy didn't want to irritate casey!
can't irritate ms casey now, can we :ohmy: must walk on eggshells around her lest she becomes irritated

Reinforces for me that Casey had an explosive temper IMO

[Pam1569]

A couple of thoughts on the depos. I love how LE has managed to get the KC the promising photographer nonsense into evidence, when there is not one photo of Zanny the Nanny.

In lee's depo, I like how they bring up the fact that cynthia and george failed to call 911 at the first whiff of decomposition in that car.

I also noticed that nothing belonging to Caylee was ever found at Lazzaro's apartment, or in the car except for the carseat and diapers. So, where were Caylee's things if it's true that Zanny stole her from casey at Blanchard Park? She had 31 days and still couldn't figure out a credible story. IMO.

GM Scampi
I believe that Lee even recognized that this is what his parents should have done. imo
As for the 31 days, there is no excuse for those days other than she was free and loving life. Nothing the defense can bring a reasonable theory about those 31 days is going to fly to the jury. jmo

[Scampi]

hmmmm... reading through george's deposition - something he said reinforces my thought that (despite what casey told LE about being "afraid" of cindy, or whatever word she used) it was cindy who was "afraid" of "upsetting" casey with any kind of confrontation.

it's regarding when george went to sports authority and found out casey didn't work there. when he told cindy, he said that cindy said "why are you following our daughter around? you know what that's going to do to her? she's going to be irritated."
[george's deposition page 108, lines 17-20]

i can well imagine that cindy didn't want to irritate casey!
can't irritate ms casey now, can we :ohmy: must walk on eggshells around her lest she becomes irritated

You're right, and we could see it during the video taped meetings at the jail. Both cynthia and george bowed down to this accused baby killer. They should hide their faces in shame, imo.

Caylee who?

[Sun]

Casey will be flaming mad if Lee and Mal get married and have a child especially while she is locked up. Casey is extremely jealous about all they are doing while she is behind bars-- we just don't get to see it anymore. :) Remember: her life and everything has been taken from her and no one to comfort her except herself. :biggrin:

IIRC when she was out they went before the judge asking permission for Casey to attend a wedding, and of course to do private searches in order to find Caylee. She was arrested pretty soon after that request so the judge didn't get to rule on her new event planning.

Yes, I agree. Casey is likely furious to think that she is no longer "in the loop" and that her freedom has been taken from her. Jealousy is an "issue" with Casey.

[*Serenity*]

A couple of thoughts on the depos. I love how LE has managed to get the KC the promising photographer nonsense into evidence, when there is not one photo of Zanny the Nanny.

In lee's depo, I like how they bring up the fact that cynthia and george failed to call 911 at the first whiff of decomposition in that car.

I also noticed that nothing belonging to Caylee was ever found at Lazzaro's apartment, or in the car except for the carseat and diapers. So, where were Caylee's things if it's true that Zanny stole her from casey at Blanchard Park? She had 31 days and still couldn't figure out a credible story. IMO.


It was very creative how the State was driving home the picture taking Casey!! AND all the hundreds of photos taken not one of Zanny or Zacharey or Jeff...!! Cindy didn't catch on to any of that though-- Cindy just kept on yacking away about wonderful photograher Casey.
AND she dug in a little deeper with Casey having the ability to take even more photos with her cell phone. LMAO

Lee did continue to stick to his one story about how awful the car odor was when he arrived to the house.

[Bala]

Serenity, By Lee stating that he is a Momma's Boy, means Mal will always be #2. imo Hope Mal can always be able to live by momma's rules, because if not then bye bye. jmo

Not only that but if they would cover up the murder of Caylee who was their flesh and blood what happens to her if Lee decides he doesn't want her around anymore. I'd be afraid so afraid. I would always wonder how safe I truly was among these people.

[Sun]

A couple of thoughts on the depos. I love how LE has managed to get the KC the promising photographer nonsense into evidence, when there is not one photo of Zanny the Nanny.

In lee's depo, I like how they bring up the fact that cynthia and george failed to call 911 at the first whiff of decomposition in that car.

I also noticed that nothing belonging to Caylee was ever found at Lazzaro's apartment, or in the car except for the carseat and diapers. So, where were Caylee's things if it's true that Zanny stole her from casey at Blanchard Park? She had 31 days and still couldn't figure out a credible story. IMO.

We are likely to never know "exactly" what was in Casey's car when it was released from the impound.

One other thing that Cindy said, didn't quite add up. She indicated that Tony's apt reeked of smoke, yet Cindy drove Casey around for a while (never once mentioning that Casey or her clothes she was wearing smelled of smoke). If the odor of that apt was that bad, then Casey would also have smelled like the apt. ..i.e. Cindy was lying to coverup the fact that she never asked Tony where Caylee was, or that she even took the opportunity to search to see if Caylee was there.

[Irestmycase]

I'd be more concerned about it, but after following the Melanie McGuire case (here and on CTV) and being told what a great defense attorney Joe Tacopina was, how Melanie was "so pretty", and how there was "no evidence", she'd never be convicted, I'm not worried about Casey. Good old Joe tried the "she passed the poly" announcement to the press on the Friday afternoon of a holiday weekend, knowing the prosecution couldn't bring it up when court reconvened, hoping it would taint the jury, but it didn't work.

I am confident Casey end up either with the DP or LWOP. She's such a worthy candidate, just like Miz Mel.

There is simply no way to get around those 31 days of not reporting Caylee missing. Add to that Casey's total unconcern for Caylee once it became public, and it is just icing on the cake. All the rest of the circus behavior will be forgotten once everyone is in the courtroom and the jury of Casey's peers actually get to listen to the State's case and watch Casey's performance at the witness table.

In my opinion, of course. :laugh:

Yeah what she said!!!!!! This is all the jury needs. There is only one reason the defense could use that would explain Casey not reporting Caylee missing for 31 days. That would be if Casey herself would have been dead,
Good luck with that Jose.

[5swab5]

People that lose their dog or cat, print up flyers, post them, take out ads in the paper and call the Animal Control Office, the ASPCA and every other place they can think of.

There will NO explanation for that 31 days that any jury will be able to come to take seriously. IMO

[*Serenity*]

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/48hours/main3410.shtml

Reminder for anyone that wants to watch more spin by the Anthony's and 3 Members from the defense team. Is Baez part of this...? Anyone know?

[Sun]

I'm just starting in on George's depo. Up to the part where he is starting to describe his work history once moving to Florida. It took him approx three months to get a job at Jimmy Bryant Toyota. It lasted ONE day. He didn't say if he quit or if he was fired.

After that, he began working as security, foot or cart patrol, 11 p.m to 7 a.m. shift (or midnight to 8 a.m.). Watch kids during the day when Cindy was at work, sleep a few hours then get up and go to work. Worked three years at Centroplex.

Worked 9-5 p.m. for approx the next 3-4 years as a sales rep for Snappy Car Rentals.

Gee...George can't seem to even get the dates or years correct. Also seems to have been lying about how he would walk Casey to and from the school. (can't hardly be working days and also be walking a 7-10 yr old child home from school) Guess this task was just left up to a neighbor or to Lee (hmmmm?). Sounds to me that Lee and Casey had little to no parental supervision at times.

[*Serenity*]

Well.... I just watched the preview for 48-hours and I strongly disagree so I doubt I even watch this garbage!! Baden-- most important piece of evidence was contaminated....! phew.... AND the last comment that this is the most high profile case in America. That's a stretch in and of itself... this is NOT the most high profile case in America. :rolleyes:

[Scampi]

It was very creative how the State was driving home the picture taking Casey!! AND all the hundreds of photos taken not one of Zanny or Zacharey or Jeff...!! Cindy didn't catch on to any of that though-- Cindy just kept on yacking away about wonderful photograher Casey.
AND she dug in a little deeper with Casey having the ability to take even more photos with her cell phone. LMAO

Lee did continue to stick to his one story about how awful the car odor was when he arrived to the house.

cindy the know it all...lol. I'm sure the prosecutors had a good belly laugh over how easy it is to get cindy to spout incriminating things about her daughter without her even being aware of what they are doing.

Both george and cindy really believe they can out smart the Prosecutors. They are sooooo wrong. IMO.

[Sun]

Reminder for anyone that wants to watch more spin by the Anthony's and 3 Members from the defense team. Is Baez part of this...? Anyone know?

After reading about the money that Cindy and George received, I do believe that I will not watch this show.

[need2no]

Brief comments from Dave and a video including Joy Wray :rolleyes:, but sound isn't great.

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/a-day-at-the-courthouse/

[*Serenity*]

cindy the know it all...lol. I'm sure the prosecutors had a good belly laugh over how easy it is to get cindy to spout incriminating things about her daughter without her even being aware of what they are doing.

Both george and cindy really believe they can out smart the Prosecutors. They are sooooo wrong. IMO.

I had quite the giggles reading Baez having a fit over the State asking Cindy about the videos/pics being taken from the home to his office.
Dang he got pizzy...! THIS IS SEALED.... EVERYONE WILL KNOW WHAT IS SEALED BY THIS QUESTION.... then what got me laughing more was Baez telling Cindy: don't don't don't.... then next: no no no..... and finally his bombshell: zip it....!!! LMAO even Baez couldn't get mouthy Cindy under control... she wanted to tell her little story. Aww too bad we didn't get to hear it. AND Ashton was comical telling Baez how depositions are to proceed according to the Florida law. That entire part of the depo is worth reading again.

I betcha that is the part where they went in camera when the State demanded knowing how the defense was getting paid. Ta-da.... videos and photos that were taken from the house by the murderer herself.

AND why did Baez need Cindy's hair and Caylee's hairbrush/toothbrush?

[Sun]

I had quite the giggles reading Baez having a fit over the State asking Cindy about the videos/pics being taken from the home to his office.
Dang he got pizzy...! THIS IS SEALED.... EVERYONE WILL KNOW WHAT IS SEALED BY THIS QUESTION.... then what got me laughing more was Baez telling Cindy: don't don't don't.... then next: no no no..... and finally his bombshell: zip it....!!! LMAO even Baez couldn't get mouthy Cindy under control... she wanted to tell her little story. Aww too bad we didn't get to hear it. AND Ashton was comical telling Baez how depositions are to proceed according to the Florida law. That entire part of the depo is worth reading again.

I betcha that is the part where they went in camera when the State demanded knowing how the defense was getting paid. Ta-da.... videos and photos that were taken from the house by the murderer herself.

AND why did Baez need Cindy's hair and Caylee's hairbrush/toothbrush?

Yes, Baez really, really doesn't want potential jurors to know that the murderer sold pics/videos of the victim to pay for her defense.

For some reason Baez wanted Cindy's DNA/hair. I can think of no good reason for this, especially during that timeframe. My thoughts go back to Baez wanting access to the car, to have his expert inspect it.

[Julie Dupree]

Is this "possible witness for the defense" even credible? From what I've read about her, couldn't this ploy blow up in Baez's face? I would imagine the State could pretty much destroy her credibility on the stand, couldn't they?

It is sad to think that JB and company are going to put this woman thru what she is going to be facing. She will have to discuss why she was involuntarily admitted to the psychiatric unit, how long she was there, what kind of therapy she had following these hospitalizations, is she currently in therapy to name a few.
It is obvious to me that JB and company are not interested in what happens to this woman if they can get their story told the way they want it told.
And the really sad thing about it, they have found this lady who is willing to go thru so much that she probably not even aware of, to swear that she saw something...which in her own mind may be very real.
This is one part of the trial that I am not looking forward to.

[KatieLady]

Yes, Baez really, really doesn't want potential jurors to know that the murderer sold pics/videos of the victim to pay for her defense.

For some reason Baez wanted Cindy's DNA/hair. I can think of no good reason for this, especially during that timeframe. My thoughts go back to Baez wanting access to the car, to have his expert inspect it.

Do you think JB had visions of pinning the murder on Cindy? Or, at the very least, try to create reasonable doubt?

[KatieLady]

I haven't had time to follow much of what happened in court yesterday, however I did view a series of still photos from the proceedings.

In 4 or 5 of them Casey is laughing. Could someone please tell me what was going on or being said at the time that caused her and some on her legal time to laugh?

Thank you!

Judge S said something about his desk having lotion all over it...that is when they laughed

[Julie Dupree]

After reading about the money that Cindy and George received, I do believe that I will not watch this show.

I wonder if Zenida received any payment for her contribution to this program?

[martha]

I guess we have nothing new today. I sure wish the judge would put a stop to jb bringing all those motions up just to delay the trial. I know the judge is not wanting to have another trial and he wants to make sure the first tiral goes right and they will not have another one. cindy and george or still getting money of their granddaughter death how sad.The book and movie deal will set them up for life I am sure.no more work for cindy and george and I bet lee will be in on it too.jmho:wub:

[Sun]

Do you think JB had visions of pinning the murder on Cindy? Or, at the very least, try to create reasonable doubt?

That thought did cross my mind.

[*Serenity*]

I wonder if Zenida received any payment for her contribution to this program?

CBS is doing this for one reason and one reason alone... they see future $$$$$ and want the exclusive interview with the murderer herself. So- everyone needs to kiss Cindy and Baez rear ends for the 'untruthful' story prior to this ever going to trial. Then the defense has the cajones to demand a COV when they constantly are making the media rounds to keep this in the spotlight.

I really don't see this case front and center any longer and with the trial so far away, well it keeps getting pushed further behind new events. The defense and Anthony's try to keep it front and center.
I can just picture Cindy texting and calling everyone, even email blasting media for new interviews.

:rolleyes:

[Sun]

Judge S said something about his desk having lotion all over it...that is when they laughed

I really wish that Judge Strickland would get assigned a courtroom of his own. (he's on Civil Case rotation, and has to "borrow" an appropriate courtroom for these hearings)

[*Serenity*]

That thought did cross my mind.

The defense could still throw all of them under the bus, and I'm sure Casey won't mind one iota-- as long as she thinks she can get out of this mess. Cindy was the last known on video tape to be with Caylee--so it could be a possible spin. They are all crazy loons so who knows.

[Julie Dupree]

I guess we have nothing new today. I sure wish the judge would put a stop to jb bringing all those motions up just to delay the trial. I know the judge is not wanting to have another trial and he wants to make sure the first tiral goes right and they will not have another one. cindy and george or still getting money of their granddaughter death how sad.The book and movie deal will set them up for life I am sure.no more work for cindy and george and I bet lee will be in on it too.jmho:wub:

Hi Ms Martha,
Since Lee is the gifted one, I am sure he will write the book and Cindy will be the one to dictate and take care of all the financial arrangements, and George Marie will be the gopher. Not sure what role DC and JB will play in this new adventure..or if they will even be involved, but watch for it coming to a book store near you within a year of the verdict being handed down.

[charmin 66]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21320358/detail.html

I did a search on chlorophyll even spelling it wrong and not ONE hit for chloroform.

Searches for chloroform were made from the Anthony's desktop computer on March 17 and March 21. Cindy Anthony was at work when both these searches were performed. IMO

I believe this information came from an early doc dump. IMO

IMO A very interesting and detailed timeline is found at
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread431159/pg1

Please note the copyright and uses on this site IMO

[*Serenity*]

Hi Ms Martha,
Since Lee is the gifted one, I am sure he will write the book and Cindy will be the one to dictate and take care of all the financial arrangements, and George Marie will be the gopher. Not sure what role DC and JB will play in this new adventure..or if they will even be involved, but watch for it coming to a book store near you within a year of the verdict being handed down.

LOL @ George Marie... that's cute..!!

I thought I heard/read that George stated they already had a book deal in the works? Anyone else hear this?

[Bala]

CBS is doing this for one reason and one reason alone... they see future $$$$$ and want the exclusive interview with the murderer herself. So- everyone needs to kiss Cindy and Baez rear ends for the 'untruthful' story prior to this ever going to trial. Then the defense has the cajones to demand a COV when they constantly are making the media rounds to keep this in the spotlight.

I really don't see this case front and center any longer and with the trial so far away, well it keeps getting pushed further behind new events. The defense and Anthony's try to keep it front and center.
I can just picture Cindy texting and calling everyone, even email blasting media for new interviews.

:rolleyes:
I think that CBS should be boycotted for using the ever lying Anthony's for anything and then paying them. They know that what Cindy is spewing is lies but are going ahead with the show anyway. No reputable news show would put them on then let them lie through their teeth and not call them on it.

[jessie]

Serenity, I am sure that LDB will directly ask her questions and if she doesn't and goes on a stray she will be stopped by LDB and re asked the question and Strickland will have to also inform her just answer the question. Strickland did this to George when he was on the witness stand at the hearing before last. So I have no doubt that her story telling days on the stand with the prosecution asking the questions will be done with, but I am sure also that the defense will re ask and let her go on with her story. jmo And then the prosecution will ask on redirect and blow the story out of the water. I dont think any of their lies will be allowed to float anywhere. The prosecution will win in the end with a guilty verdict. I dont know if she will get death penalty or lwop, but either one will do. JMO

[Julie Dupree]

We are likely to never know "exactly" what was in Casey's car when it was released from the impound.

One other thing that Cindy said, didn't quite add up. She indicated that Tony's apt reeked of smoke, yet Cindy drove Casey around for a while (never once mentioning that Casey or her clothes she was wearing smelled of smoke). If the odor of that apt was that bad, then Casey would also have smelled like the apt. ..i.e. Cindy was lying to coverup the fact that she never asked Tony where Caylee was, or that she even took the opportunity to search to see if Caylee was there.

Sun, like we have said from the beginning, you look for what is important to you. At that time getting Casey and getting the revenge she needed for having to pay all that money to get the car from the impound lot was what was important. Later, she thought about Caylee and she knew she had to switch to looking for her. But it was the need to confront Casey about the car that was on her mind when she was at Tony's apt. She took care of that need she had.

[Barbara fl.]

And then the prosecution will ask on redirect and blow the story out of the water. I dont think any of their lies will be allowed to float anywhere. The prosecution will win in the end with a guilty verdict. I dont know if she will get death penalty or lwop, but either one will do. JMO


I agree...Casey will never walk a free woman again, and I think she knows it...

[Addy]

A couple of thoughts on the depos. I love how LE has managed to get the KC the promising photographer nonsense into evidence, when there is not one photo of Zanny the Nanny.

In lee's depo, I like how they bring up the fact that cynthia and george failed to call 911 at the first whiff of decomposition in that car.

I also noticed that nothing belonging to Caylee was ever found at Lazzaro's apartment, or in the car except for the carseat and diapers. So, where were Caylee's things if it's true that Zanny stole her from casey at Blanchard Park? She had 31 days and still couldn't figure out a credible story. IMO.Good morning Scampi, Was momma doll found in the car? Does anyone know?

[Barbara fl.]

Sun, like we have said from the beginning, you look for what is important to you. At that time getting Casey and getting the revenge she needed for having to pay all that money to get the car from the impound lot was what was important. Later, she thought about Caylee and she knew she had to switch to looking for her. But it was the need to confront Casey about the car that was on her mind when she was at Tony's apt. She took care of that need she had.

You are so right...that was what her first thought was...goes to show the priorities are in that family....The sad part is that they might not even be aware of themselves...How can anyone not be more concerned about their grandchild.

This family is real screwed up......Casey is looking more like a wicked witch every time I see her...her eyes are looking real crazy.....Could it be jail doing this to her? :biggrin:

[TunaMelt]

After reading about the money that Cindy and George received, I do believe that I will not watch this show.

I know myself too well.

I'll watch it.

It's water under the bridge, the payment; it's all said and done, nothing anyone can do about. It doesn't matter to the Anthonys if one or two or hundreds of her "bloggers" watch it or not. She's got her money; I might as well hear what CBS thinks $20,000 is worth.

So it's going to be out there whatever I say or think, and I am a very curious person. I can read depos all day, but I like to see Cindy's face when she lies.

:wink:

[TunaMelt]

Sun, like we have said from the beginning, you look for what is important to you. At that time getting Casey and getting the revenge she needed for having to pay all that money to get the car from the impound lot was what was important. Later, she thought about Caylee and she knew she had to switch to looking for her. But it was the need to confront Casey about the car that was on her mind when she was at Tony's apt. She took care of that need she had.

Exactly.
:thumbup:

[Barbara fl.]

:lol:

Evidently her fan club has disbanded...and what about George's contributions? Have his regular deposits stopped?

I guess with both Cindy and George on disability and Lee having to support them both, the well has run dry. Too bad for Caylee that well didn't dry up long before now. Had Cindy and George put their foot down about the stealing Casey did years ago, we wouldn't be following this particular case. Not that I don't believe Casey wouldn't have had a criminal record...I firmly believe she would have.

MO


I can see a person going on temporary disability following a tragedy but I don't think that can turn into permanent disability....I could be wrong, I really don't know too much about disability except that it's not easy to get on....If the Anthony's have gotten on disability for this, then I think it should be looked into, because if they can not work then how can they go on tv interviews and talk about the very thing that they are claiming to be so upsetting? just a thought...

[Sun]

Good morning Scampi, Was momma doll found in the car? Does anyone know?

Addy, according to Cindy, momma doll was in the car. Also, according to Cindy in her State Depo, momma doll was one of the items that Caylee liked to sleep or nap with. (I took this to mean that Caylee didn't have a habit of carrying the doll around with her during other times).

[*Serenity*]

Only Eyewitness News got hold of the statement George Anthony made under oath to prosecutors two months ago. He admitted the family has taken thousands of dollars from the CBS network for doing a show and that their lawyer has been involved in negotiations for a book deal.



http://www.wftv.com/news/21308788/detail.html

[Barbara fl.]

I still want more though, Scamp. I'm greedy like that. :sneaky:

I want questions like: "So George, do you really think it's the right and honorable thing to do to lie to protect Casey from the consequences of her actions?"

"So Cindy, how do the pastor and congregation of your church feel about parents lying to keep their children from taking responsibility for their actions?"

"So George and Cindy, do you think your own lying has given Casey permission to lie about what happened to Caylee?"

And George and Cindy, when is anyone going to think about poor little Caylee? Has everyone in your family forgotten so fast? Is your daughter worth all this? What do you think Caylee was thinking while her mommy was killing her?

And best of all.....George and Cindy, what would have done if you caught her in the act of murdering Caylee? Woul you have gotten rid of the body to protect Casey?

[Addy]

I know myself too well.

I'll watch it.

It's water under the bridge, the payment; it's all said and done, nothing anyone can do about. It doesn't matter to the Anthonys if one or two or hundreds of her "bloggers" watch it or not. She's got her money; I might as well hear what CBS thinks $20,000 is worth.

So it's going to be out there whatever I say or think, and I am a very curious person. I can read depos all day, but I like to see Cindy's face when she lies.

:wink:I'm with you. My curious self will win :blushing:

[Bala]

I'm with you. My curious self will win :blushing:
If you are going to watch will you write down all sponsors of the show so that we can have a list after.

[Sun]

I can see a person going on temporary disability following a tragedy but I don't think that can turn into permanent disability....I could be wrong, I really don't know too much about disability except that it's not easy to get on....If the Anthony's have gotten on disability for this, then I think it should be looked into, because if they can not work then how can they go on tv interviews and talk about the very thing that they are claiming to be so upsetting? just a thought...

Just look at who Cindy and George have for an attorney, and what he normally specializes in. I'm quite certain that Conway knows how to work the system.

Cindy would argue that she is not being paid for her interview. That she is not able to work. She would just claim that to make ends meet, she sold material items. (I would think that the lump sum that she received should affect her disability payment, but I know absolutely nothing about how that works).

[*Serenity*]

And George and Cindy, when is anyone going to think about poor little Caylee? Has everyone in your family forgotten so fast? Is your daughter worth all this? What do you think Caylee was thinking while her mommy was killing her?

And best of all.....George and Cindy, what would have done if you caught her in the act of murdering Caylee? Woul you have gotten rid of the body to protect Casey?

ABSOUTELY....!!

Per George he will sell to the devil to get Casey out of jail.
NEW line for all three of them is: Caylee is alive and they do not believe she is even dead. Per Cindy: Caylee had 20 teeth not 18.
Guess Cindy can't grab a clue that poor Caylee's teeth were scattered all over the place in the woods.

How does Cindy know Caylee had 20 teeth..? Because SHE brushed Caylee's teeth. OMG.... bless her heart she had time to brush Caylee's teeth.

Everytime new information comes out 'Team Anthony' changes their stories to cover up for anything that points to Casey.

[Addy]

Addy, according to Cindy, momma doll was in the car. Also, according to Cindy in her State Depo, momma doll was one of the items that Caylee liked to sleep or nap with. (I took this to mean that Caylee didn't have a habit of carrying the doll around with her during other times).Thanks Sun. It just seems odd that if Cindy was trying to "help" Casey, that momma doll was in the car. (And she volunteered the knife, etc.) I just can't figure out if Cindy wants to help Casey or bury her, kwim?

[Bala]

Just look at who Cindy and George have for an attorney, and what he normally specializes in. I'm quite certain that Conway knows how to work the system.

Cindy would argue that she is not being paid for her interview. That she is not able to work. She would just claim that to make ends meet, she sold material items. (I would think that the lump sum that she received should affect her disability payment, but I know absolutely nothing about how that works).
What kind of work does Brad specialize in?

[Addy]

If you are going to watch will you write down all sponsors of the show so that we can have a list after.Sure. Will even record it.

[Addy]

It's taking me forever to get through George's depo (sigh). Haven't even started the others yet. George is very partial to his gas cans. Page 210, George: "Yeah. Because I like that gas can. It's sort of part of me. It's 20 years old."

Sentimental over a gas can?

[Duke]

LMAO .. look at photo #1 with her lips all pooched with that frown.
If you click on 16-17-18 -- one after the other it is really funny.


OMG that is funny.

OK #16 OH my what are they going to say..
#17 Whew, i got buy with that one
#18 OMG, I am Plucked!

[Addy]

LOL I just read that a few minutes ago and had the same thought. :confused: I thought perhaps it was a "man" thing. :laugh:George M. Anthony? :tonguewag:

Hi Annie!

[Sun]

Thanks Sun. It just seems odd that if Cindy was trying to "help" Casey, that momma doll was in the car. (And she volunteered the knife, etc.) I just can't figure out if Cindy wants to help Casey or bury her, kwim?

I can't get my mind to work like Cindy's. And, after reading Cindy's entire depo, my mind is feeling very, very abused.

Cindy cleaned the momma doll with a baby-wipe, but did not "wash" it, according to Cindy's State Depo. I suspect that most everything "turned over" was first gone over very carefully by Cindy.

[Addy]

Whoa. George knew the car was out of gas before they went to the towing place......

[*Serenity*]

It's taking me forever to get through George's depo (sigh). Haven't even started the others yet. George is very partial to his gas cans. Page 210, George: "Yeah. Because I like that gas can. It's sort of part of me. It's 20 years old."

Sentimental over a gas can?

:rolleyes: yea... over a gas can-- yet he has nothing in him to stand up for his Grandaughter.

I read all of Lee's and the 2nd part of Cindy's depositions-- I've yet to force myself to start on part 1 of Cindy and I really doubt I open George's.

[Addy]

I can't get my mind to work like Cindy's. And, after reading Cindy's entire depo, my mind is feeling very, very abused.

Cindy cleaned the momma doll with a baby-wipe, but did not "wash" it, according to Cindy's State Depo. I suspect that most everything "turned over" was first gone over very carefully by Cindy. She seems to be helping the prosecution in a backwards sort of way. I can't figure out how her mind works either. (Psych majors will be studying this family for years). jmo

[Kathlb]

It should be noted that Joy Wray admitted to me of being baker acted 5 times.

http://www.wftv.com/download/2009/0612/19735490.pdf

Page 43

I hadn't seen this interview before. LOL She was afraid to leave her daughter alone with George and when asked why she said, "I don't want my kid to go missing." :scared: Okay Joyyyyyy ... And this is the mystery woman who is going to solve the case for Jose???? :tongueside:

[Duke]

Who in the world counts a childs teeth as they brush them?? I brush my teeth 2 times a day (unless I have a dentist appointment:tonguewag:) and I have NO idea how many I have.

[Sun]

It's taking me forever to get through George's depo (sigh). Haven't even started the others yet. George is very partial to his gas cans. Page 210, George: "Yeah. Because I like that gas can. It's sort of part of me. It's 20 years old."

Sentimental over a gas can?

I know an old man just like that (could easily be a man thing). He has an ancient, antique small metal gas can. It is his "favorite" and he uses it all of the time. Gets a bit testy if someone else even "thinks" about picking it up to use. But he's very willing to lend out his plastic cans, and even keeps gas in them most of the time. Just don't ever touch his favorite metal one.

[Sun]

Whoa. George knew the car was out of gas before they went to the towing place......

I'm have a devil of a time reading George's depo. It is so slow going. I wonder if the State will release an audio version?

[Julie Dupree]

You are so right...that was what her first thought was...goes to show the priorities are in that family....The sad part is that they might not even be aware of themselves...How can anyone not be more concerned about their grandchild.

This family is real screwed up......Casey is looking more like a wicked witch every time I see her...her eyes are looking real crazy.....Could it be jail doing this to her? :biggrin:

I am sure it has not helped Barbara. But do I feel sorry for her?

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

[martha]

Hi Ms Martha,
Since Lee is the gifted one, I am sure he will write the book and Cindy will be the one to dictate and take care of all the financial arrangements, and George Marie will be the gopher. Not sure what role DC and JB will play in this new adventure..or if they will even be involved, but watch for it coming to a book store near you within a year of the verdict being handed down.You or so right and ITA with you but I will never buy a book that will help them make money of of Caylee;s death. I just don;t want to help people like that in any way.jmho:wub:

[Duke]

QUOTE=Barbara fl.;13566893]I agree...Casey will never walk a free woman again, and I think she knows it...[/QUOTE]

Pic # 4 says it all for our Mother of the year @ http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21315101/detail.html

LOL, I know I am taking her laughter out of context but WHO:cursing: would be happy about anything if your daughter is gone:confused:

[AlohaRainbow]

ok... so, still working my way through george's depo. on page 178 he states that the tv show he was watching (one of his favorites) that monday around the time casey left, 12:50, was "drive up diners and dives".

i googled and came up with the food network show "diners, drive-ins and dives" - per the website, it airs mondays at 10 and 10:30PM, fridays at 9 and 9:30 PM, and sundays at 3 and 3:30PM, all eastern time.

does anyone local to the area know if it also airs on mondays around 12 or 12:30 (or did back when caylee went "missing")?

ETA - just have to vent - it annoys me no end that george keeps referring to money as "monies".

[5swab5]

I hadn't seen this interview before. LOL She was afraid to leave her daughter alone with George and when asked why she said, "I don't want my kid to go missing." :scared: Okay Joyyyyyy ... And this is the mystery woman who is going to solve the case for Jose???? :tongueside:

Unbelievable, isn't it?

The irony of the whole thing, is the only family in America that could be convinced Wray is going to save the day, is the Anthonys. :biggrinjester:

MOO

[AlohaRainbow]

I still want more though, Scamp. I'm greedy like that. :sneaky:

I want questions like: "So George, do you really think it's the right and honorable thing to do to lie to protect Casey from the consequences of her actions?"

"So Cindy, how do the pastor and congregation of your church feel about parents lying to keep their children from taking responsibility for their actions?"

"So George and Cindy, do you think your own lying has given Casey permission to lie about what happened to Caylee?"
all verrrry good questions!
to the first question, though, george might answer, "cindy told me to butt out, she will handle it". :rolleyes:

[Addy]

I'm have a devil of a time reading George's depo. It is so slow going. I wonder if the State will release an audio version?That would be helpful, lol. There are several pages of gas can and duct tape question/answers. George would never apply duct tape in a sloppy manner. Never. Especially not to his beloved gas can.

[KTBarTheDoor]

If I were on trial for murdering my child, I don't think I would be laughing about anything. IMO Casey seemed positively giddy... as if she were at a party given in her honour.

I suppose if you're sitting in a cell 23 hours a day, any interaction with real people might make you feel happy.

Well it kind of looked that way yesterday. All had some sort of green on.:rolleyes:

[BettyC]

ok... so, still working my way through george's depo. on page 178 he states that the tv show he was watching (one of his favorites) that monday around the time casey left, 12:50, was "drive up diners and dives".

i googled and came up with the food network show "diners, drive-ins and dives" - per the website, it airs mondays at 10 and 10:30PM, fridays at 9 and 9:30 PM, and sundays at 3 and 3:30PM, all eastern time.

does anyone local to the area know if it also airs on mondays around 12 or 12:30 (or did back when caylee went "missing")?

I've never heard of the show but on the food network it gives the same times:

Tune in: Mondays at 10pm and 10:30pm, Fridays at 9pm and 9:30pm and Sundays at 3pm and 3:30pm (All Times Eastern)

http://www.foodnetwork.com/diners-drive-ins-and-dives/index.html

[Sun]

I agree. It's pretty boring.

I'm just at the point where George is accusing Tony L of being a drug dealer and perhaps into prostitution. :scared:

Everyone is much much farther along that I am in George's State Depo. I read a few paragraphs of lies, then just have to stop.

[Spots]

Brief comments from Dave and a video including Joy Wray :rolleyes:, but sound isn't great.

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/17/a-day-at-the-courthouse/

I was not impressed by Marinade Dave before this. I don't put much stock in onlookers claiming to have insider info, or catering to the "follow me - I'm wonderful" blogging creed.

Now I see Joy Wray is posting there. 'Nuff said.

[Addy]

I know an old man just like that (could easily be a man thing). He has an ancient, antique small metal gas can. It is his "favorite" and he uses it all of the time. Gets a bit testy if someone else even "thinks" about picking it up to use. But he's very willing to lend out his plastic cans, and even keeps gas in them most of the time. Just don't ever touch his favorite metal one.Really? Okay. I could understand tools passed down from Father to Son type of thing.....but a gas can? LOL, okay. Maybe it is a man thing -- or maybe they just don't make those metal ones anymore?

[KTBarTheDoor]

One question I would have like for all of them to have been asked is,

If casey car was in Johnsons towyard since June 30 and had been at amscot for at least 3 days, And you all believe she was searching for Caylee during those 31 days, how was casey searching for Caylee with NO CAR?

[Addy]

Everyone is much much farther along that I am in George's State Depo. I read a few paragraphs of lies, then just have to stop.Me too. Haven't started on Cindy or Lee yet though. It's taking a long time and many beverages to wade through George's.

[KTBarTheDoor]

Really? Okay. I could understand tools passed down from Father to Son type of thing.....but a gas can? LOL, okay. Maybe it is a man thing -- or maybe they just don't make those metal ones anymore?

LOL...it's a material thing. very possessive over their possessions..Like a kid with toys.. thats mine you cant touch it....mo

[Postergeist]

I know myself too well.

I'll watch it.

It's water under the bridge, the payment; it's all said and done, nothing anyone can do about. It doesn't matter to the Anthonys if one or two or hundreds of her "bloggers" watch it or not. She's got her money; I might as well hear what CBS thinks $20,000 is worth.

So it's going to be out there whatever I say or think, and I am a very curious person. I can read depos all day, but I like to see Cindy's face when she lies.

:wink:

TunaMelt- I'm with you, I'll either watch it or tape it- like you said, they already got paid for this.

It's also a chance to see other pics of little Caylee, and maybe I'll eat a PB&J later today while it's on, in honor of her, since I believe that was the last meal she ate that was made by someone that truly cared for her and only had the best intentions for her, her great-grandma Shirley.

imo

:rose:

and also, isn't there to be interviews with Jesse as well? So the innocent, imo, have the right to have their stories heard, and not just the guilty, the liars, the lawbreakers, etc.

[KTBarTheDoor]

Me too. Haven't started on Cindy or Lee yet though. It's taking a long time and many beverages to wade through George's.

i know.. done with george's only got thru 400 pages of cindys.....ugh....

[seeing_eye]

she would be great to take over
as long as she doesnt plan on having kids, especially twins! LOL!
Maybe she will have her own show one day, But I remember allot of people started out like her. Hiraldo used to be good and would ask the tough questions, look at him now.

BBM
Please, I'd rather not.

[Kathlb]

Hi Ms Martha,
Since Lee is the gifted one, I am sure he will write the book and Cindy will be the one to dictate and take care of all the financial arrangements, and George Marie will be the gopher. Not sure what role DC and JB will play in this new adventure..or if they will even be involved, but watch for it coming to a book store near you within a year of the verdict being handed down.

:w00t::laugh: Sorry, I couldn't help myself.:lol:

[KTBarTheDoor]

does anyone know when 48 hours is on?

[Postergeist]

Really? Okay. I could understand tools passed down from Father to Son type of thing.....but a gas can? LOL, okay. Maybe it is a man thing -- or maybe they just don't make those metal ones anymore?

metal cans are still sold

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=145709-40109-U150FS&lpage=none&cm_mmc=search_gps-_-gps-_-gps-_-Eagle%205-Gallon%20Metal%20Gas%20Can

I don't get it either Addy, can understand a favorite pocket knife from childhood, a watch that has sentimental value...but it's curious to what people can become attached to.

imo

[KTBarTheDoor]

Just checked what days the hearing are set for casey's fraud case. Since al said before that she would like the hearings set either on a Thursday or Friday. well the one in Dec for pretrial is on a Friday. However, the trial date is set For Monday..umm bet she's not liking that day.

[Addy]

metal cans are still sold

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=145709-40109-U150FS&lpage=none&cm_mmc=search_gps-_-gps-_-gps-_-Eagle%205-Gallon%20Metal%20Gas%20Can

I don't get it either Addy, can understand a favorite pocket knife from childhood, a watch that has sentimental value...but it's curious to what people can become attached to.

imoThis family in particular. The A's seem to love things, and to use people. I just don't get it.

[Addy]

does anyone know when 48 hours is on?Here (West Coast) it's on at 10:00pm

[KTBarTheDoor]

Here (West Coast) it's on at 10:00pm

Thank you Addy.

[Duke]

Whoa. George knew the car was out of gas before they went to the towing place......


Andy or anyone that can find this...what page and line is this on?

[Postergeist]

This family in particular. The A's seem to love things, and to use people. I just don't get it.

I admit, my eyebrows raised early in the case about the near hysteria over a missing cell phone, a sim card, a lanyard, a thumb drive, a Tiffany ring - meanwhile quizzing Casey about Caylee wasn't asked because, well...their house might be bugged.

*thud*

imo

[Addy]

Andy or anyone that can find this...what page and line is this on?Page 222 of George's depo -- he is talking about the day they went to pick up the car. He automatically filled up gas cans before they went to Johnson's the first time.

He had to have known.

Oops. Maybe that is the maggot page. Looking again. (I think it might be page 217)
Yes. PAGE 217.

[Sun]

Just checked what days the hearing are set for casey's fraud case. Since al said before that she would like the hearings set either on a Thursday or Friday. well the one in Dec for pretrial is on a Friday. However, the trial date is set For Monday..umm bet she's not liking that day.

I noticed that too! I do recall one of the media indicating that the hearing yesterday for the criminal check/fraud case was to handle "calendaring issues." Sounds to me like someone was being difficult and Judge Strickland had to set a hearing date to settle the matter. I so wish that the media would have been allowed access to film that hearing!

[Scampi]

I wouldn't miss this show tonight. When george and cindy tell all of America they still believe this murdered child is alive, they will lose what little credibility they have remaining. imo.

Diane Fanning and John Morgan will give us the facts, imo.

jose will provide the comic relief, as usual imo. :laugh:

[Addy]

I wouldn't miss this show tonight. When george and cindy tell all of America they still believe this murdered child is alive, they will lose what little credibility they have remaining. imo.

Diane Fanning and John Morgan will give us the facts, imo.

jose will provide the comic relief, as usual imo. :laugh:
I'll share my popcorn :biggrin:

[MomofaMarine]

CBS' Maggie Rodriguez Now in Prime Time


http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cbs/cbs_maggie_rodriguez_now_in_prime_time_140428.asp

[Scampi]

I'll share my popcorn :biggrin:

Okay, I'll provide the "beverages".......lol. I think we're going to be pleased with this show, it's cynthia and george who are going to be throwing a hizzy fit after it's over, imo. :laugh:

[zippy]

After reading all the depos, 2 things stand out to me, well actually there's more but am only bringing up 2. Why did Baez need hair samples from Casey, Cindy, Caylee's hairbrush and toothbrush? To plant evidence on someone else, like the "extra" hairs Henry Lee found at the lab. And what was Casey doing with the Universal name tag with the name "Chris" on it. Just wondering.

[Duke]

I admit, my eyebrows raised early in the case about the near hysteria over a missing cell phone, a sim card, a lanyard, a thumb drive, a Tiffany ring - meanwhile quizzing Casey about Caylee wasn't asked because, well...their house might be bugged.

*thud*

imo

Wierd huh?

[SC7501]

Just checked what days the hearing are set for casey's fraud case. Since al said before that she would like the hearings set either on a Thursday or Friday. well the one in Dec for pretrial is on a Friday. However, the trial date is set For Monday..umm bet she's not liking that day.

I don't think AL (death penalty atty) will have anything to do with the fraud case. -- JMO of course.

[SC7501]

Does anyone have a reference to where George made that comment about being willing to sell his soul to the devil or whatever it was that he said? TIA

[Sun]

After reading all the depos, 2 things stand out to me, well actually there's more but am only bringing up 2. Why did Baez need hair samples from Casey, Cindy, Caylee's hairbrush and toothbrush? To plant evidence on someone else, like the "extra" hairs Henry Lee found at the lab. And what was Casey doing with the Universal name tag with the name "Chris" on it. Just wondering.

It is puzzling to me also, why Baez would need DNA/hairs from Cindy. And why he threw such a fit over the exhibit that he didn't want Cindy to talk about. The handwritten sheet of notes, in handwriting that Cindy didn't recognize.

I'm going to guess that Casey slept with a "chris" at one point in time, and she got a name tag from him (or maybe the entire bag).

[Sun]

I don't think AL (death penalty atty) will have anything to do with the fraud case. -- JMO of course.

She's signed all these Motions, and has indicated that she must protect Casey's rights.

Defendant's Motion In Limine To Preclude The Introduction Of Any Evidence Relating To Miss Anthony's Murder Case (Includes Table Of Exhibits and Memorandum Of Law in Support, 15 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13098974

Motion In Limine To Exclude Evidence Of Alleged Prior Bad Acts (Includes Table Of Exhibits, Memorandum Of Law in Support, 13 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13099942

Motion for Change of Venue, including Summary of Exhibits and Memorandum of Law
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13093619

Andrea Lyon - Motion for Admission To Appear Pro Hac Vice (Fraud Trial, 5 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13091969/Motion-For-Admission-To-Appear-Pro-Hac-Vice

Motion For Individually Sequestered Jury Voir Dire (Fraud Trial) (includes Memorandum Of Law in Support and Table Of Exhibits, 13 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13096875

Motion for Jury Questionaire (Fraud Trial) (Includes Memorandum of Law in Support and Table of Exhibits, 16 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13097020

Juror Questionaire (Fraud Trial, 10 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13097241

[MomofaMarine]

NANCY GRACE

Missing Toddler`s Mother Reportedly Turns Down Immunity Offer

Aired September 2, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0809/02/ng.01.html

[SC7501]

She's signed all these Motions, and has indicated that she must protect Casey's rights.

Defendant's Motion In Limine To Preclude The Introduction Of Any Evidence Relating To Miss Anthony's Murder Case (Includes Table Of Exhibits and Memorandum Of Law in Support, 15 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13098974

Motion In Limine To Exclude Evidence Of Alleged Prior Bad Acts (Includes Table Of Exhibits, Memorandum Of Law in Support, 13 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13099942

Motion for Change of Venue, including Summary of Exhibits and Memorandum of Law
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13093619

Andrea Lyon - Motion for Admission To Appear Pro Hac Vice (Fraud Trial, 5 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13091969/Motion-For-Admission-To-Appear-Pro-Hac-Vice

Motion For Individually Sequestered Jury Voir Dire (Fraud Trial) (includes Memorandum Of Law in Support and Table Of Exhibits, 13 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13096875

Motion for Jury Questionaire (Fraud Trial) (Includes Memorandum of Law in Support and Table of Exhibits, 16 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13097020

Juror Questionaire (Fraud Trial, 10 pages)
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13097241


I stand corrected. Or sit corrected anyway. Thanks!

[Postergeist]

Does anyone have a reference to where George made that comment about being willing to sell his soul to the devil or whatever it was that he said? TIA

to get his daughter out of jail

line 19 and 20

I’d sell my soul to the devil right now to get her out of jail,
George

think it's pg. 308 on doc dump

or check page 244- my notes are bit scattered in my word doc


imo

[Leanne Weich]

Jose Baez


http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21317868/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;p=news&dm=ss&tn=b

He always looks so smug and obviously doesn't have a clue just how badly he's perceived by people (not only on the smugness but his total ineptness as well).JMO.

[Sun]

I stand corrected. Or sit corrected anyway. Thanks!

I actually felt the same way that you did, up until Lyon piped up and spoke out at an earlier hearing (in which Judge Strickland ruled that the criminal check/fraud case would not be delayed until after the murder trial).

[SC7501]

to get his daughter out of jail

line 19 and 20

I’d sell my soul to the devil right now to get her out of jail,
George

think it's pg. 308 on doc dump

or check page 244- my notes are bit scattered in my word doc


imo

Page 308 is right. Thanks! -- He certainly created a great way to call whatever he says into question, didn't he? George is just not cut out for all this deception. -- GOOD!

[zippy]

It is puzzling to me also, why Baez would need DNA/hairs from Cindy. And why he threw such a fit over the exhibit that he didn't want Cindy to talk about. The handwritten sheet of notes, in handwriting that Cindy didn't recognize.

I'm going to guess that Casey slept with a "chris" at one point in time, and she got a name tag from him (or maybe the entire bag).

TY Sun, The name tag I believe was in the bag Cindy removed from car, was he or she working at this time and was Casey still using it? Also loved Baez sputtering when Cindy wanted to continue to explain the handwritten sheet.

[SC7501]

I actually felt the same way that you did, up until Lyon piped up and spoke out at an earlier hearing (in which Judge Strickland ruled that the criminal check/fraud case would not be delayed until after the murder trial).

It really does seem weird to me. But maybe they think a conviction in the fraud case would tip the balance between LWOP and death. -- Or, maybe she just likes being on TV... :biggrin:

[Postergeist]

Page 308 is right. Thanks! -- He certainly created a great way to call whatever he says into question, didn't he? George is just not cut out for all this deception. -- GOOD!

you said it! Maybe it was a way to elevate himself to the same status as his daughter- who said she'd do whatever it takes- "lie, steal or cheat" and Cindy who said she would she'd knock on every door and turn over every stone?

what ever it takes-

pretty eXtreme from my perspective, imo

[msgatorslayer]

After reading all the depos, 2 things stand out to me, well actually there's more but am only bringing up 2. Why did Baez need hair samples from Casey, Cindy, Caylee's hairbrush and toothbrush? To plant evidence on someone else, like the "extra" hairs Henry Lee found at the lab. And what was Casey doing with the Universal name tag with the name "Chris" on it. Just wondering.

The "Chris' name tag means something, I just can't place it.

As I read Cindy's depo I was wondering why she was talking about how Casey and her co-workers switched name tags all the time. It came clear out of left field and had me stumped as to what she was talking about. Then, I seen the pic of the duffle bag so I learned what she was talking about. Still don't know why though.

Trust nothing this family says and question everything, IMO. There is some kind of reason Cindy is giving Casey a stupid name tag alibi, lol.

The way Casey, who hadn't worked at Universal for 2 years strolled right on in like she owned the place with LE in tow, ya have to wonder why kind of things she was doing when she really did work there.

Was she taking other peoples name tags to get past a certain security point? Acting as if she was someone else? I wouldn't put it past her.

[farrahrani]

Who in the world counts a childs teeth as they brush them?? I brush my teeth 2 times a day (unless I have a dentist appointment:tonguewag:) and I have NO idea how many I have.


If they found 16, Cindy would have said 18. If they found 20, it would have been 22. If they found 5. she would have said 7. JMO :glare:

Still trying to catch up after being out all morning, so if this was said already, sorry :rolleyes:

[Scampi]

to get his daughter out of jail

line 19 and 20

I’d sell my soul to the devil right now to get her out of jail,
George

think it's pg. 308 on doc dump

or check page 244- my notes are bit scattered in my word doc


imo

I think he's attempting to do just that and in the process will be doomed for all eternity. IMO.


:mad:

[*Serenity*]

And I still don´t understand why he was so upset about not being the one who put the tape on that gas can. Still cannot figure that out.
Maybe someone can help here?
JMO

In the backwards kind of way-- he is trying to blame LE/FBI of doing this in order to pin this on his daughter.

[8BellesFan]

I think he did sell his soul, but the devil lies.

[sunstar]

I think he's attempting to do just that and in the process will be doomed for all eternity. IMO.


:mad:

He's sure going to make a good witness at trial, isn't he? :sneaky: MOO

[msgatorslayer]

Hi,

just got through with George´s depo and have to say I can´t believe this. My mouth is still open. The best thing was the "I´ll sell my soul to the devil right now to get her out of jail, to answer your questions."

Well, that says all to me. He´d lie like hell just to get her out. That´s what he said with that. George is embarassing.
JMO

George's depo is on my agenda AFTER dinner. What a thing to say, under oath.:scared:

[Sun]

The "Chris' name tag means something, I just can't place it.

As I read Cindy's depo I was wondering why she was talking about how Casey and her co-workers switched name tags all the time. It came clear out of left field and had me stumped as to what she was talking about. Then, I seen the pic of the duffle bag so I learned what she was talking about. Still don't know why though.

Trust nothing this family says and question everything, IMO. There is some kind of reason Cindy is giving Casey a stupid name tag alibi, lol.

The way Casey, who hadn't worked at Universal for 2 years strolled right on in like she owned the place with LE in tow, ya have to wonder why kind of things she was doing when she really did work there.

Was she taking other peoples name tags to get past a certain security point? Acting as if she was someone else? I wouldn't put it past her.

Cindy indicated in her 2008 LE interview, that she thought that a "chris" was the friend that brought a bag containing Caylee's dora one wetsuit to the pow-wow.

Casey had a "boyfriend" called Chris, and I believe she even slept over with him (when his parents were away), in May/June 2008.

[BettyC]

CBS' Maggie Rodriguez Now in Prime Time


http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/cbs/cbs_maggie_rodriguez_now_in_prime_time_140428.asp

From the link:

When I started covering the Casey Anthony story on 'The Early Show,' I developed a relationship with her parents. And when I heard '48 Hours' had an interest in pursuing the case, I thought it was a natural fit. And they agreed."

I really don't think reporters should "develop relationships" with people they are reporting about.

[*Serenity*]

George's depo is on my agenda AFTER dinner. What a thing to say, under oath.:scared:

UNDER OATH means ABSOUTELY nothing to anyone in this family. The TRUTH and the Anthony's are STRANGERS.

:lol:

[*Serenity*]

From the link:

When I started covering the Casey Anthony story on 'The Early Show,' I developed a relationship with her parents. And when I heard '48 Hours' had an interest in pursuing the case, I thought it was a natural fit. And they agreed."

I really don't think reporters should "develop relationships" with people they are reporting about.

What's his name-- can't think of it.. Lenny's cousin that took care of bailing the murderer out...... He developed quite the friendship with the Anthony's and remains in contact with them... he thinks they are wonderful people. AND of course he thinks Casey is really a nice girl.
He got pretty blasted at that other place when he was posting all that non-sense.

[msgatorslayer]

Cindy indicated in her 2008 LE interview, that she thought that a "chris" was the friend that brought a bag containing Caylee's dora one wetsuit to the pow-wow.

Casey had a "boyfriend" called Chris, and I believe she even slept over with him (when his parents were away), in May/June 2008.

You don't find anything hinky about her having his name tag? She had Amy's resume in her car also. It may very well mean nothing, I dunno.

[msgatorslayer]

UNDER OATH means ABSOUTELY nothing to anyone in this family. The TRUTH and the Anthony's are STRANGERS.

:lol:

Oh, I know. But for George to say what he said, that's really flippin the old Lee finger at the state.

[*Serenity*]

Cindy indicated in her 2008 LE interview, that she thought that a "chris" was the friend that brought a bag containing Caylee's dora one wetsuit to the pow-wow.

Casey had a "boyfriend" called Chris, and I believe she even slept over with him (when his parents were away), in May/June 2008.

LOL

My question is: who DIDN'T Casey Anthony sleep with?? I still love the neighbors comment about her boyfriends being lined up from her house all the way to Ohio.

:lol:

ETA-- it's been over a year with no male bedmates.... wonder how that's working out for Ms. Anthony.. ?? LMAO

[BettyC]

What's his name-- can't think of it.. Lenny's cousin that took care of bailing the murderer out...... He developed quite the friendship with the Anthony's and remains in contact with them... he thinks they are wonderful people. AND of course he thinks Casey is really a nice girl.
He got pretty blasted at that other place when he was posting all that non-sense.

Tony IIRC. Anyone can get along with them as long as they coddle them and don't cross them. If they do, watch out. Just ask Tim Miller.

[TunaMelt]

Thanks Sun. It just seems odd that if Cindy was trying to "help" Casey, that momma doll was in the car. (And she volunteered the knife, etc.) I just can't figure out if Cindy wants to help Casey or bury her, kwim?

I don't think Cindy wants her to come home, I really don't. KC caused her too much trouble throughout her life, and even though Mother Cindy is working hard as hell to make lemonade out of KC's lemons, she doesn't want her back, oh no.

I have thought often that they are deliberately messing things up for the defense by opening their mouths with all these "mistruths" -- making sure their little girl doesn't come back home ever.

Cindy wants a family she can control. She's got George, whatever that's worth, but she can control him, and if Lee marries whats her name, Cindy's got her and her mother on the Board of Directors of her Fraudation, so she (already) controls their monies and their mouths and their behaviors. So Malory's no problem and Lee is a wimp and a wuss and god knows what else.

The troublesome one was KC. How inconvenient she muddied Cindy's waters with a baby, but now, how convenient that the State of Florida wants to take the Troublemaker off her hands, so Cindy can once again rule her roost.

And they made some money, too.:w00t:

And even though she'll try to look distraught tonight, what Cindy's thinking is: "it could be worse, ya know?"

:thumbdown:
imo

[*Serenity*]

Oh, I know. But for George to say what he said, that's really flippin the old Lee finger at the state.

Hey... he finally spewed a few words of truth out of his evil mouth.
All of them sold out to the devil from day one. I'm still not sure about George and the Grand Jury though. That was when Mark N. was on board so who knows.

[Sun]

You don't find anything hinky about her having his name tag? She had Amy's resume in her car also. It may very well mean nothing, I dunno.

IMO, Casey is a thief. Said to have started stealing/forging checks when she was in high school. I suspect that she stole that Tiffany ring, hair straightner, videos for Caylee, etc., or at least used stolen funds to pay for them.