Caylee 10/16

[Explorer]

That's the sickest part of all. They KNOW.

Yet they hopped right on the Caylee Gravy Train. No wonder Casey is mad when they only replenish her commissary account when the newspapers report she has a deficit.

Hopefully, the men that were contributing from ALL across the world are now in a padded room.

MOO

Casey who?:smile:

[KTBarTheDoor]

That's the sickest part of all. They KNOW.

Yet they hopped right on the Caylee Gravy Train. No wonder Casey is mad when they only replenish her commissary account when the newspapers report she has a deficit.

Hopefully, the men that were contributing from ALL across the world are now in a padded room.

MOO

Also they did get paid $20,000 for the dateline show. and bc is also negotiating a book deal for them.. Hope all the money they are getting it is worth it cause the more they talk the more they are helping convict casey and possibly themselves so hey george and cindy keep right on talking.. one more nail....jmo..

[BettyC]

When I go and get excited about there going to be another court hearing, would you all please just pick up a hammer and beat some sense back into me. Please.

I had hoped to hear what was happening in the criminal check/fraud case, but it seems like all that happened was off camera. And, video feed appeared to be down for the start of the court hearing.


...ok, I'll admit that I did enjoy the part where Casey got up and exited the courtroom. I could hear chains clanking. :wink:

You were here when it was reported that he set the date for the check/fraud trial though right Sun?

[aubrey04]

I hope that NG discusses the documents. On her webpage, it says they'll be discussing Ronald Cummings divorce from Misty Croslin though and nothing about Casey/Caylee.. I will still keep an eye out.

48 Hours Mystery isn't on until tomorrow night, right?

[panokatana]

And what I also found astounding is Cindy volunteered this information, and doesn't see to 'GET' how disgusting and inexcusable this is.

Dang, a two year old in a house with three adults and poor Caylee had to care for herself! :cursing:

I wonder if Casey had to get HER OWN breakfast and entertain HERSELF at age two? If Cindy was the breadwinner, I wonder if Casey went to daycare... who watched her...or did she basically raise herself without much guidance from her parental units?

jmo

[Neffy]

I just heard something strange on WESH local 5 o'clock news orlando.
They were pointing out georges description of why he knew there was pizza in the trunk.
this is not word for word "I knew there was pizza and maggots because you could hear them munching and it sounded like hamburger sizzling."
Think about that: that would be alot of maggots and a 35 lB pizza to have a noise like that.
but it struck me as a crazy statement( I know, everything they say is crazy) but this is different: we know there was no pizza in the box, so it makes me think GA did open Caseys trunk around the gas can time,. and heard what he describes, otherwise how on earth would you create that description?

Ok, going back to find the link.


Poor Pru! She's waited so long for the maggot evidence. Gonna be a lot longer considering their testing a 500 pound maggot if he heard em chomping!

[BettyC]

I hope that NG discusses the documents. On her webpage, it says they'll be discussing Ronald Cummings divorce from Misty Croslin though and nothing about Casey/Caylee.. I will still keep an eye out.

48 Hours Mystery isn't on until tomorrow night, right?

That's right aubrey. Saturday night.

[Neffy]

You were here when it was reported that he set the date for the check/fraud trial though right Sun?

Hey Bet, read that! YES! We got a date!

[desmom]

I just heard something strange on WESH local 5 o'clock news orlando.
They were pointing out georges description of why he knew there was pizza in the trunk.
this is not word for word "I knew there was pizza and maggots because you could hear them munching and it sounded like hamburger sizzling."
Think about that: that would be alot of maggots and a 35 lB pizza to have a noise like that.
but it struck me as a crazy statement( I know, everything they say is crazy) but this is different: we know there was no pizza in the box, so it makes me think GA did open Caseys trunk around the gas can time,. and heard what he describes, otherwise how on earth would you create that description?

Ok, going back to find the link.

page 221, line 23 - page 22 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

There was a a pizza box and there was maggots inside of the box -- I mean, in that bag. I remember specifically because they were making a cracking sound, like hamburger on a skillet. I remember that specifically.

IMO, that is one heck of a lot of maggots. :eek:

[5swab5]

Thats why George wanted to kill himself he couldnt get that sound out of his head.

Lost you someplace....

Which sound? Cindy won't shut up? TIA

[summer4meplz]

Poor Pru! She's waited so long for the maggot evidence. Gonna be a lot longer considering their testing a 500 pound maggot if he heard em chomping!

is that even possible...to HEAR them....?

[Pierre]

Poor Pru! She's waited so long for the maggot evidence. Gonna be a lot longer considering their testing a 500 pound maggot if he heard em chomping!

Sorry pru, well it is evidence involving maggots. I really believe GA heard that noise, their just not that creative.

[Sun]

You were here when it was reported that he set the date for the check/fraud trial though right Sun?

pretrial in dec, and trial in jan ....however, I am 100% certain that the defense will manage to delay and there won't be a trial in jan2010 for the criminal check/fraud.

[5swab5]

I wouldnt be surprised if he went totally insane over this. The smell, the sounds, they dont go away.

That is the most ridiculous thing about this whole case.

You are NOT going to be able to find A juror, let alone 12, that haven't been on the highway and breezed past a dead animal on the side of the road.

The aroma..vs..rotting pizza...I think not. MOO

[Scampi]

How could george talk about maggots sounding like a sizzling hamburger when he couldn't even stand to listen to Mr. Morgan say the word remains? And yet he did. Tells me this man tailors his reactions depending on the audience. He's a total sham in my opinion.

I hope he hears those maggots feasting for the rest of his life.

:angry:

[Pierre]

is that even possible...to HEAR them....?

YES, because on animal channel when they speed up a decomposing animal and they have volume on it, it does sound gruesome.

[neid_77]

I hope that NG discusses the documents. On her webpage, it says they'll be discussing Ronald Cummings divorce from Misty Croslin though and nothing about Casey/Caylee.. I will still keep an eye out.

48 Hours Mystery isn't on until tomorrow night, right?

don't keep your hopes up Nancy doesn't cover this case maybe once in a blue moon anymore..Galanos does more on this case than she does...so does JVM i think Nancy dropped the whole thing

she does what a show 1 if that a month

[KTBarTheDoor]

You were here when it was reported that he set the date for the check/fraud trial though right Sun?

yes can wait for that one xmas after xmas...
lol

[Pierre]

page 221, line 23 - page 22 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

There was a a pizza box and there was maggots inside of the box -- I mean, in that bag. I remember specifically because they were making a cracking sound, like hamburger on a skillet. I remember that specifically.

IMO, that is one heck of a lot of maggots. :eek:

TY TY hail to the queen of links, I thought I was losing it.

[5swab5]

I am not against doing an experiment or two. I tasted AntiFreeze during the Jensen trial. (OK....Idiot)

But, I don't have a trunk. Just Sayin'.

[5boxersmom]

page 221, line 23 - page 22 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

There was a a pizza box and there was maggots inside of the box -- I mean, in that bag. I remember specifically because they were making a cracking sound, like hamburger on a skillet. I remember that specifically.

IMO, that is one heck of a lot of maggots. :eek:

Ohh that is nasty. Could they have been getting ready to become flies and that is what he heard?

Gross.

jmo

[KTBarTheDoor]

explorer. george never did intend on committing suicide. it was all a scam to keep the media and everyone from talking about the duct tape around Caylee's nose and mouth.. you dont take empty pill bottles and a six pak to commit suicide.. suicide by empty bottles? what was he going to do swallow the empty pill bottles and the caps off the beer bottles. NO it was a scam..

[cassidy]

explorer. george never did intend on committing suicide. it was all a scam to keep the media and everyone from talking about the duct tape around Caylee's nose and mouth.. you dont take empty pill bottles and a six pak to commit suicide.. suicide by empty bottles? what was he going to do swallow the empty pill bottles and the caps off the beer bottles.

He took his own pillow and blankie too. What a sham.


JMO

[KTBarTheDoor]

Ohh that is nasty. Could they have been getting ready to become flies and that is what he heard?

Gross.

jmo


IIRC there was coffin flies in there also..

[KTBarTheDoor]

I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong but IIRC it was Jose's idea for them to get these phones. Now I just have to remember where I read this.

How about Jose almost having a conniption during Cindy's depo? He really had to stop her from saying "something."

yes he sure didnt want her to open her mouth..

[neid_77]

Defense after the hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/21317695/index.html


Listen to WHAT!! Belich asks Lyons DO YOU LET YOUR STUDENTS WRITE THESE MOTIONS LMAO!!!:lol:


here you can see everything even interview with ConMAN

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html

[BettyC]

Hey Bet, read that! YES! We got a date!

Hi Neffy :seeya:

Something to hold us over at least!

Has anyone seen Lavinia or know if she's ok?

[KTBarTheDoor]

He took his own pillow and blankie too. What a sham.


JMO

Yes and wrote a 5-8 page suicide not and left it in his car. Still would like to know what kind of paper it was wrote on...My guess is it was wrote before he ever left the house with cindys help....jmho only missing a few hours and bc calls 911 to look for him and dc and bc there with cindy.. yes set up all the way.. didnt know 911 while Caylee was missing..

[Sun]

yes he sure didnt want her to open her mouth..

I'm having a slow time of getting through Cindy's depo. Does she really think that her answers are believeable? What type of juror does she hope to convince? Where is the defense going to find this type of juror, one who will believe the nonsense that comes from Cindy?

[desmom]

George and Cindy said the school called them a couple days before Casey's h.s. graduation and told them she would not be graduating. Another George and Cindy story about how Casey was wronged?

In Lee's depo with LE on the bottom of page 18 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310241/detail.html Lee said, "..I never personally brought it up to her after the day when she brought it up and pretty much confessed, said: Mom, you know, by the way, thanks for the graduation party but I'm not graduating."

IMO, Lee's version is probably more accurate. Casey would have known for several months she was not eligible to graduate if it was because of a lack of credits/hours.

[BettyC]

Defense after the hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/21317695/index.html


Listen to WHAT!! Belich asks Lyons DO YOU LET YOUR STUDENTS WRITE THESE MOTIONS LMAO!!!:lol:


here you can see everything even interview with ConMAN

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html

OMG Andrea did not like that one bit did she?

[Pierre]

Defense after the hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/21317695/index.html


Listen to WHAT!! Belich asks Lyons DO YOU LET YOUR STUDENTS WRITE THESE MOTIONS LMAO!!!:lol:


here you can see everything even interview with ConMAN

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html

Oh she is awesome! I wish they were all like her.

[Sun]

Defense after the hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/21317695/index.html


Listen to WHAT!! Belich asks Lyons DO YOU LET YOUR STUDENTS WRITE THESE MOTIONS LMAO!!!:lol:


here you can see everything even interview with ConMAN

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html

Thanks neid for posting these links. What a snobbish remark by Lyon. Perhaps she felt quite a defeat today in the courtroom.

someone once told me that if you aren't successful at practicing law, you can always teach it. :ohmy:

[Scampi]

Defense after the hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/21317695/index.html


Listen to WHAT!! Belich asks Lyons DO YOU LET YOUR STUDENTS WRITE THESE MOTIONS LMAO!!!:lol:


here you can see everything even interview with ConMAN

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html


Thank you for this!!! Not since Kathy bellowed out the question "Why are you strutting KC" have I been so amused. Kathy asked the question that all of us have been curious about and irritated the hell out of lyon, which was icing on the cake.

I LOVE KATHY BELICH.

:lol:

[BettyC]

Thanks neid for posting these links. What a snobbish remark by Lyon. Perhaps she felt quite a defeat today in the courtroom.

someone once told me that if you aren't successful at practicing law, you can always teach it. :ohmy:


I have to admit I cringed just a bit when Kathi asked her that questions UNTIL I remembered this is her motion:

The only purpose of evidence of these, and potentially other, alleged prior bad acts of Miss Anthony is to attempt to show that Ms. Anthony had the propensity to not properly supervise it's students.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13099942/Motion-In-Limine-to-Exclude-Alleged-Prior-Bad-Acts

Page 2 - first complete sentence.

I think it was a legitimate question.

[newsjunkie]

somebody help me here PLEASE!!:smile: if this defense team is so sure of what they have and this person is so amazingly accurate why do they have to wait until january 1st for goodness sakes that's to month's...Mr. Macoluso's mouth stated they had hardcore evidence...why do they have to wait 2 months when they said they had it already?


As you all can see I am 15 pages behind but needed to comment to this.
If they had proof, a witness or whatever they claim they would produce them right away.
I can't believe Casey would just want to wait in jail one day longer then necessary.
The defense doesn't think the judge and prosecution haven't figured this out?
Lord they are stoopit!!!:rolleyes:

[need2no]

George and Cindy said the school called them a couple days before Casey's h.s. graduation and told them she would not be graduating. Another George and Cindy story about how Casey was wronged?

In Lee's depo with LE on the bottom of page 18 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310241/detail.html Lee said, "..I never personally brought it up to her after the day when she brought it up and pretty much confessed, said: Mom, you know, by the way, thanks for the graduation party but I'm not graduating."

IMO, Lee's version is probably more accurate. Casey would have known for several months she was not eligible to graduate if it was because of a lack of credits/hours.


Incredulous they didn't know, unless casey's high school was a whole lot different than my son's school. Perhaps the Anthony's never bothered to attend parent/teacher conferences. But still, I get info in writing hand delivered by my son, in the mail, online, and by attending get to know your child's teacher meetings. There is no excuse not to know, and to be surprised at the last hour.

[Pierre]

Are you sure that isn't the sound of buzzing flies? How many or how big would they have to be in order to hear a maggot eating?

I think George is just so FULL of #$^*.

cant argue with ya there.

[desmom]

Casey's check fraud dates back to when she was in 10th or 11th grade of high school per Lee on page 40 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310241/detail.html


A: ...So it would have been after I graduated, her in -- that would have made her in, what, tenth grade or eleventh grade, depending on when.

Q: How much was the -- how much did she write the check for?

A: It was, like, 200 bucks, I want to say. Like a -- it was a small amount of money.

IMO, "200 bucks" is not a small amount of money no matter how old you are.

[seeing_eye]

Thats why George wanted to kill himself he couldnt get that sound out of his head.

Sorry to disagree, respectfully. But I do not believe George ever even entertained a thought to kill himself. However, I do think he did entertain the thought to pretend to consider suicide in order to gain sympathy. Remember, this is the same "man" who has made accusations to just about everybody, "You don't care about me!" My opinion in this matter derives from the fact that his "suicide note" was found in his car while he was found in a motel room with pizza and beer and no missing meds in the pill bottles.

[KTBarTheDoor]

Defense after the hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/21317695/index.html


Listen to WHAT!! Belich asks Lyons DO YOU LET YOUR STUDENTS WRITE THESE MOTIONS LMAO!!!:lol:


here you can see everything even interview with ConMAN

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html

omg roflamo....Is it me or is baez rude to Kathi. IMO he knows he cont pull anything over on her and she put one more nail in with the duct tape on Caylee missing flyer.....go Kathi go..

[Pierre]

Sorry to disagree, respectfully. But I do not believe George ever even entertained a thought to kill himself. However, I do think he did entertain the thought to pretend to consider suicide in order to gain sympathy. Remember, this is the same "man" who has made accusations to just about everybody, "You don't care about me!" My opinion in this matter derives from the fact that his "suicide note" was found in his car while he was found in a motel room with pizza and beer and no missing meds in the pill bottles.

not like I care for GA but aren't the stats if someone wants to kill themselves, they usually make a few lame attempts. cry for help stuff.
I think im laughing at my own statement

[kakax]

OMG Andrea did not like that one bit did she?

I hate to ask this but I'm back out camping and can't see video...what was Andrea's response?

IMO, the most disturbing tidbit in all of the doc dumps is the maggots George heard. How can they live with themselves? I'm sickened more than ever by their support of Casey.

[BettyC]

I hate to ask this but I'm back out camping and can't see video...what was Andrea's response?

IMO, the most disturbing tidbit in all of the doc dumps is the maggots George heard. How can they live with themselves? I'm sickened more than ever by their support of Casey.

She gave Kathi a most disdainful look and said You are kidding right?


Kathi said, no I'm not, what's your answer.

[Sun]

I have to admit I cringed just a bit when Kathi asked her that questions UNTIL I remembered this is her motion:

The only purpose of evidence of these, and potentially other, alleged prior bad acts of Miss Anthony is to attempt to show that Ms. Anthony had the propensity to not properly supervise it's students.

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13099942/Motion-In-Limine-to-Exclude-Alleged-Prior-Bad-Acts

Page 2 - first complete sentence.

I think it was a legitimate question.

It was a very legitimate question. And, while there is absolutely nothing wrong with Lyon having students assist, SHE is the one to sign her name on the line. If she hasn't read what she is signing, then shame on her. No excuse in my mind, for not having a document proofed and typos, etc. fixed before submitting it to the court.

[5swab5]

Casey's check fraud dates back to when she was in 10th or 11th grade of high school per Lee on page 40 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310241/detail.html


A: ...So it would have been after I graduated, her in -- that would have made her in, what, tenth grade or eleventh grade, depending on when.

Q: How much was the -- how much did she write the check for?

A: It was, like, 200 bucks, I want to say. Like a -- it was a small amount of money.

IMO, "200 bucks" is not a small amount of money no matter how old you are.

If all this stuff comes out at trial, the jurors may actually feel sorry for Casey. What a dysfunctional family.

It's a wonder they can walk and chew gum at the same time. MOO

[KatieLady]

Incredulous they didn't know, unless casey's high school was a whole lot different than my son's school. Perhaps the Anthony's never bothered to attend parent/teacher conferences. But still, I get info in writing hand delivered by my son, in the mail, online, and by attending get to know your child's teacher meetings. There is no excuse not to know, and to be surprised at the last hour.

Yep....I worked at a high school for 11 years. There is no way they didn't know unless Casey took every piece of mail, deleted every phone call, and hacked into the schools web grade program the entire last semester of her senior year. :rolleyes:

[kakax]

She gave Kathi a most disdainful look and said You are kidding right?


Kathi said, no I'm not, what's your answer.

I wish all reporters were like her. Then we wouldn't get all these softball interviews. I love that she asks the ?'s we all are thinking.

Thanks Bet!

[KTBarTheDoor]

here we go again, cindy say Caylee was speaking in paragraphs, george says she wasnt doing that...ut oh george i suppose this weeked your really in the dog house..jmo..

[True2Blues]

Thanks, Betty.. BTW, You're an oldie (but a goodie) in a new dress, right? :wink: I used to call you "B"....? (I am surprised you had to find a new dress, but it looks mighty nice on you).

Back on-topic: I know many will be ashamed of me, but I plan on watching the 48 hours episode.. I know, I know- it is shameful, but I want to hear more from LKB.

Watching the 48 hours I can understand, but actually wanting to hear more from LKB?! I have to force myself to listen to her when she's doing her job. :laugh:

[5swab5]

Incredulous they didn't know, unless casey's high school was a whole lot different than my son's school. Perhaps the Anthony's never bothered to attend parent/teacher conferences. But still, I get info in writing hand delivered by my son, in the mail, online, and by attending get to know your child's teacher meetings. There is no excuse not to know, and to be surprised at the last hour.


NO WAY they ever did anything for Casey or Lee..except make excuses for them and teach them how to get by. Are these people on the FBI's "grifter list"?

Poor Caylee never had a chance! MOO

[DeeJay]

Lyon sure didn't luck out in the looks department.

:laugh: So true!

Plus, her hair is atrocious! :ohmy:

And needs to lose about 60pounds.

I am not sure she'll go the distance with this case. She may drop out before next summer.

[DeeJay]

NO WAY they ever did anything for Casey or Lee..except make excuses for them and teach them how to get by. Are these people on the FBI's "grifter list"?

Poor Caylee never had a chance! MOO

Reading the lastest depo released of George's.....Cindy wouldn't let him handle anything concerning Casey and her bad behavior & lies. Cindy always told George, "I'll handle it."

Explains a lot as to how Casey turned out the way she has & why she's sitting where she is.

[need2no]

It was a very legitimate question. And, while there is absolutely nothing wrong with Lyon having students assist, SHE is the one to sign her name on the line. If she hasn't read what she is signing, then shame on her. No excuse in my mind, for not having a document proofed and typos, etc. fixed before submitting it to the court.


Seems to me she would have quickly responded indignantly with "of course not!", if her students had not written the motions, unless of course she was embarrassed because she, or Baez wrote them. :w00t:

[DeeJay]

here we go again, cindy say Caylee was speaking in paragraphs, george says she wasnt doing that...ut oh george i suppose this weeked your really in the dog house..jmo..

Yep!!! I believe George more than Cindy....albeit that's not saying a whole lot.

[True2Blues]

Lyon sure didn't luck out in the looks department.


Well, you do have to wonder how a woman who is considered a legal scholar couldn't read the requirements for writing a motion properly. Baez, that I expect, because he's done so many wrong, but Lyons? She should know better.

[5swab5]

here we go again, cindy say Caylee was speaking in paragraphs, george says she wasnt doing that...ut oh george i suppose this weeked your really in the dog house..jmo..


They can SAY anything they want to...but that video from Caylee's great-grandfathers retirement home will tell the truth.

Bless her heart, Caylee HAD to remember eveything, she had no choice, but to entertain herself. MOO

[need2no]

Reading the lastest depo released of George's.....Cindy wouldn't let him handle anything concerning Casey and her bad behavior & lies. Cindy always told George, "I'll handle it."

Explains a lot as to how Casey turned out the way she has & why she's sitting where she is.

Yet earlier in the depo, (pg. 62, 63), George says they divided discipline equally....they were a family where mom says wait till dad gets home. It was never one dishing out more discipline than the other. :rolleyes:

[5swab5]

:laugh: So true!

Plus, her hair is atrocious! :ohmy:

And needs to lose about 60pounds.

I am not sure she'll go the distance with this case. She may drop out before next summer.

Lyon is looking ROUGH!

Unless I am confused, puke green isn't her color either. MOO

[denjet]

Defense after the hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/21317695/index.html


Listen to WHAT!! Belich asks Lyons DO YOU LET YOUR STUDENTS WRITE THESE MOTIONS LMAO!!!:lol:


here you can see everything even interview with ConMAN

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html

OMG neid! ROFLMAO!!

As obviously rude as Baez is to Kathi and no matter how much he tries to ignore her, she just keeps on firing !! She gets her point across without even getting him to answer!!

And Kathi going after Lyon ... priceless!! :lol:

[need2no]

Well, you do have to wonder how a woman who is considered a legal scholar couldn't read the requirements for writing a motion properly. Baez, that I expect, because he's done so many wrong, but Lyons? She should know better.

Over the years I've worked with, or had to deal with, a number of people who I always wondered how they got in the position they were in...it was baffling. Watch A. Lyon standing there while Baez is talking to reporters after the hearing...she looks so, uh, clueless.

[5swab5]

Reading the lastest depo released of George's.....Cindy wouldn't let him handle anything concerning Casey and her bad behavior & lies. Cindy always told George, "I'll handle it."

Explains a lot as to how Casey turned out the way she has & why she's sitting where she is.

No Kidding,

I am "almost" starting to feel sorry for Po' George. Should we start an intervention campaign to get him away from Cindy while he still has breath left in his body? MOO

[DeeJay]

Yet earlier in the depo, (pg. 62, 63), George says they divided discipline equally....they were a family where mom says wait till dad gets home. It was never one dishing out more discipline than the other. :rolleyes:

It appears as Casey was slowly getting into deep doo-doo, with the lies about working when she wasn't....Geroge was treated like a boarder in that house.

Like when he went to Sports Authority to take her to lunch and found out she didn't work there, neve had and no one at SA ever heard of her. George wanted to confront Casey and Cindy wouldn't allow it.

Cindy didn't want George addressing anything with Casey. George wasn't allowed to confront Casey about anything.

[Sun]

Seems to me she would have quickly responded indignantly with "of course not!", if her students had not written the motions, unless of course she was embarrassed because she, or Baez wrote them. :w00t:

I was thinking the very same thing. I've seen Baez's motions, and I don't think that he wrote these. These came from Lyon, and I guess she's not talking about "who" wrote them.

She did seem like she was having a bad day today. I must say, I was not impressed with her dressing in matching colors with the perp. Smacks of the "games" that Casey likes to play, very juvenile.

[farrahrani]

Yep....I worked at a high school for 11 years. There is no way they didn't know unless Casey took every piece of mail, deleted every phone call, and hacked into the schools web grade program the entire last semester of her senior year. :rolleyes:


Knowing Casey, its entirely possible she did intercept the mail and phone. However, it is up to the teachers, guidance counselors, etc., to demand either a phone conference or a face to face meeting with the family. I doubt Casey is capable of hacking anything, but its entirely possible she masked her academic record for quite a while. Which is a shame considering she might have been able to somehow make up the points in time to graduate if her parents had taken charge of things. While I'm no fan of Cindy, if I were Casey and needed backup to fight for the right to earn credits at the last minute, I'd want Cindy in my corner. Hate her if you must, but her pride would be on the line and she'd fight tooth and nail to help Casey graduate in time. I can see her wearing down school officials till she got her way.

[DeeJay]

No Kidding,

I am "almost" starting to feel sorry for Po' George. Should we start an intervention campaign to get him away from Cindy while he still has breath left in his body? MOO

Casey had to be handled with kidgloves and it had been that way all her life. So I have no sympathy for Cindy....not that I ever have.

George is totally dependant on Cindy and he has no financial resoures w/out Cindy. When all he has to do is get a job...ANY job and break away from the Cindy chains that bind him. I'm not sure George has the mental capabilites to think about that.

[Scampi]

My 2 cents is all things being equal, a toddler grabbing her cereal and her sippy cup in the morning by herself occasionally, in a normal family, is not even worth mentioning. What's so wrong in this case, for starters, is it was Caylee's routine to do that, because her mother couldn't be bothered, and her grandparents were too self-absorbed and too busy coddling and enabling her mother to do anything about it, either. Caylee was flat out neglected, imo. Sorry, Cindy, but all the cute little outfits and toys and dress up attire don't fool me. They never have.

Caylee was neglected to death, imo.

[DeeJay]

Lyon is looking ROUGH!

Unless I am confused, puke green isn't her color either. MOO

Her and LKB are quite the duo...neither of them know how to dress, speak or lose weight. Their hair speaks for itself. barf

[DeeJay]

Caylee was neglected to death, imo.

ITA. That child was living and growing up in that car! That's no way to care for an active toddler day in day out.

[need2no]

It appears as Casey was slowly getting into deep doo-doo, with the lies about working when she wasn't....Geroge was treated like a boarder in that house.

Like when he went to Sports Authority to take her to lunch and found out she didn't work there, neve had and no one at SA ever heard of her. George wanted to confront Casey and Cindy wouldn't allow it.

Cindy didn't want George addressing anything with Casey. George wasn't allowed to confront Casey about anything.

George had no stable employment history, and little money to contribute= no power in that house.

As usual George spoke out of both sides of his mouth. Which is it George, you did, or didn't share in disciplining casey.

I loved this:

George says he always taught his children to be leaders, not followers. Always be strong, always have an opinion. Stick with it. Be strong. I mean, have people respect you as being a leader. I mean put yourself out there……Don’t go allow with the few, because the few could be—something could be wrong…but be yourself.

Apparently George didn't teach what he preached....if that's even true.

Gawd I'm so grateful I was raised by NORMAL and HONEST parents.

[achristie]

Well, you do have to wonder how a woman who is considered a legal scholar couldn't read the requirements for writing a motion properly. Baez, that I expect, because he's done so many wrong, but Lyons? She should know better.

Mama Fratelli.:laugh:

MOO Aggie

[seeing_eye]

not like I care for GA but aren't the stats if someone wants to kill themselves, they usually make a few lame attempts. cry for help stuff.
I think im laughing at my own statement

Yes, I think that is the case with actual suicides, but in George's case, I do not believe he ever even entertained the thought of suicide. His attempt is all for show and for various reasons, IMO

[need2no]

I was thinking the very same thing. I've seen Baez's motions, and I don't think that he wrote these. These came from Lyon, and I guess she's not talking about "who" wrote them.

She did seem like she was having a bad day today. I must say, I was not impressed with her dressing in matching colors with the perp. Smacks of the "games" that Casey likes to play, very juvenile.

I don't think so either.

Juvenille indeed. As I said earlier, I can only assume this is their way of giving the finger to the prosecution and those of us who want justice for Caylee, and believe casey is guilty of murder.

[newsjunkie]

My 2 cents is all things being equal, a toddler grabbing her cereal and her sippy cup in the morning by herself occasionally, in a normal family, is not even worth mentioning. What's so wrong in this case, for starters, is it was Caylee's routine to do that, because her mother couldn't be bothered, and her grandparents were too self-absorbed and too busy coddling and enabling her mother to do anything about it, either. Caylee was flat out neglected, imo. Sorry, Cindy, but all the cute little outfits and toys and dress up attire don't fool me. They never have.


And Cindy thought she was showing how bright and smart Caylee was DUH! She just doesn't get it:thumbdown:

[TunaMelt]

:laugh: So true!

Plus, her hair is atrocious! :ohmy:

And needs to lose about 60pounds.

I am not sure she'll go the distance with this case. She may drop out before next summer.

Oh, no, I disagree. She'll go the distance. This is her CAUSE. It's less a trial to her than another opportunity to get a platform for her anti-death penalty crusade.

She'll be there, front and center.

:wink:

[newsjunkie]

No Kidding,

I am "almost" starting to feel sorry for Po' George. Should we start an intervention campaign to get him away from Cindy while he still has breath left in his body? MOO


I felt sorry for him too, about 10 months ago ......for about 3 minutes!!:tonguewag:

[need2no]

Marinade Dave will only accept positive comments on his blog.

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/a-great-day-for-courting/#comments

Interesting also he doesn't want any comments about Joy Wray as well. Why Dave????? You befriend someone who has been Baker Acted five times. Makes no sense to me. He says he will have an interesting story in his next article about her and his excursion to the court today. I can hardly wait to hear the nonsense he is going to spew this time.

Something is not right with this guy. Why at this late date is he injecting himself in this case? Now he is best friends with Judge Stan S. and I am sure he will be on LKL soon telling his tall tale. Is this another Murt in the making? Think there will be a book deal in his future? Maybe we should all move to Orlando and get rich off the back of poor Caylee Marie. I am so damn disgusted. :cursing:

Yeah, this is all getting strange. Did you see where the deputy approached him at the end of the hearing? I assume it was regarding what Judge Strickland was whispering about that was accidently overheard. Something about the guy in the gray striped shirt and a picture. Why do say he is best friends with Strickland?

Was that Joy with the red hair?

[TunaMelt]

Marinade Dave will only accept positive comments on his blog.

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/a-great-day-for-courting/#comments

Interesting also he doesn't want any comments about Joy Wray as well. Why Dave????? You befriend someone who has been Baker Acted five times. Makes no sense to me. He says he will have an interesting story in his next article about her and his excursion to the court today. I can hardly wait to hear the nonsense he is going to spew this time.

Something is not right with this guy. Why at this late date is he injecting himself in this case? Now he is best friends with Judge Stan S. and I am sure he will be on LKL soon telling his tall tale. Is this another Murt in the making? Think there will be a book deal in his future? Maybe we should all move to Orlando and get rich off the back of poor Caylee Marie. I am so damn disgusted. :cursing:

Exactly what I was thinking. Here comes another William Murtaugh. I wonder if he'll do tours?

[need2no]

I felt sorry for him too, about 10 months ago ......for about 3 minutes!!:tonguewag:

That was 3 minutes too long. :tonguewag:

[need2no]

Exactly what I was thinking. Here comes another William Murtaugh. I wonder if he'll do tours?

He already has. Just a day or so ago he did a tour from TonE's former apartment to the Castlebury Walmart, and that wasn't his first tour, he has done others.

[DeeJay]

George had no stable employment history, and little money to contribute= no power in that house.

As usual George spoke out of both sides of his mouth. Which is it George, you did, or didn't share in disciplining casey.

I loved this:

George says he always taught his children to be leaders, not followers. Always be strong, always have an opinion. Stick with it. Be strong. I mean, have people respect you as being a leader. I mean put yourself out there……Don’t go allow with the few, because the few could be—something could be wrong…but be yourself.

Apparently George didn't teach what he preached....if that's even true.

Gawd I'm so grateful I was raised by NORMAL and HONEST parents.

Oh me too!!! I thank God on a regular basis how THANKFUL I am to have had NORMAL & HONEST parents.

I know George can GET a job, but for some reason, he cannot KEEP a job. No wonder he's totally dependant on Cindy for everything....the roof over his head, a car, food, clothes. Same as Casey was.

However, now George has and will be getting big buck$ off the sale of books, etc. off Caylee's back. :angry:

G & C will be rolling in the green very soon if not already. No wonder they both aren't concerned with working for a living.

[newsjunkie]

Her and LKB are quite the duo...neither of them know how to dress, speak or lose weight. Their hair speaks for itself. barf


The last couple of times I saw LKB (who I just detest from the PS trial) she looked like she had a makeover and maybe lost a few lbs. Maybe someone confused her with AL? :w00t:

[5swab5]

Knowing Casey, its entirely possible she did intercept the mail and phone. However, it is up to the teachers, guidance counselors, etc., to demand either a phone conference or a face to face meeting with the family. I doubt Casey is capable of hacking anything, but its entirely possible she masked her academic record for quite a while. Which is a shame considering she might have been able to somehow make up the points in time to graduate if her parents had taken charge of things. While I'm no fan of Cindy, if I were Casey and needed backup to fight for the right to earn credits at the last minute, I'd want Cindy in my corner. Hate her if you must, but her pride would be on the line and she'd fight tooth and nail to help Casey graduate in time. I can see her wearing down school officials till she got her way.


I saw a gal...just like what you are talking about on the new TruTV Show "Mall Cops"..I think it is.. A "teen idol" was showing up to sign 500 CDs....@ The Mall of America.

Some gal brought in her preteen kid and her little cousin ..........easily 5 hours after ALL the other kids & Moms had been standing on line and started pitching such a screaming fit...that her kids got almost in the front of the line....

What did she teach them or us that day? OR anyone else that got up at the crack of dawn and followed the rules?

Never told her name. I doubt her family will claim her either, Just sayin. MOO

[TunaMelt]

He already has. Just a day or so ago he did a tour from TonE's former apartment to the Castlebury Walmart, and that wasn't his first tour, he has done others.

Ahh.

So, he's the New Murt, for "Casey Anthony: Part II."

He must need a life.
:wink:

[5swab5]

Casey had to be handled with kidgloves and it had been that way all her life. So I have no sympathy for Cindy....not that I ever have.

George is totally dependant on Cindy and he has no financial resoures w/out Cindy. When all he has to do is get a job...ANY job and break away from the Cindy chains that bind him. I'm not sure George has the mental capabilites to think about that.


:lol:

George ain't gettin NO J.O.B.

What do you think he married Cindy for? He's a sun-tanning George Hamilton wanna be... MOO

And he spawned the same.

[need2no]

The last couple of times I saw LKB (who I just detest from the PS trial) she looked like she had a makeover and maybe lost a few lbs. Maybe someone confused her with AL? :w00t:

I suspect she had a little 'work done' in preparation for her cameo in the 48 Hours segment. Her face appeared smoother with less wrinkles, younger looking...maybe some dermabrasion and juvederm, and/or botox.

meow, meow.......

[TunaMelt]

Oh me too!!! I thank God on a regular basis how THANKFUL I am to have had NORMAL & HONEST parents.

I know George can GET a job, but for some reason, he cannot KEEP a job. No wonder he's totally dependant on Cindy for everything....the roof over his head, a car, food, clothes. Same as Casey was.

However, now George has and will be getting big buck$ off the sale of books, etc. off Caylee's back. :angry:

G & C will be rolling in the green very soon if not already. No wonder they both aren't concerned with working for a living.

They won't make nearly enough money to think about retirement. After the lawyers and all the others they have deals with get their pieces (and they will take theirs first) -- it's not going to be all that much. Maybe a cheesy cruise and new cars, but not enough to retire on by a long shot.

Cindy better keep that Nurse certificate or whatever it is -- she better not let it expire, because she's going to need it.

[nana6]

You should be ashamed of yourself for being such a FLB! :laugh: (I'm gaining on you, Nana.)

Hi Annie, I turned 60 so ya know you have to tell me what those initials stand for I guess I am not quite with it:confused:

[DeeJay]

The last couple of times I saw LKB (who I just detest from the PS trial) she looked like she had a makeover and maybe lost a few lbs. Maybe someone confused her with AL? :w00t:

I remember her in the Spector trial...what a nightmare!

Last time I saw her was in an Anthony hearing and she hadn't changed a bit....still overweight.close too tight, hair looked like straw.

LKB & AL are too old for those hairstyles...well those aren't really "styles," just a mess of too long hair for their ages.

[need2no]

Ahh.

So, he's the New Murt, for "Casey Anthony: Part II."

He must need a life.
:wink:

I suppose so, sure haven't seen or heard much from Murt lately.

[need2no]

Hi Annie, I turned 60 so ya know you have to tell me what those initials stand for I guess I am not quite with it:confused:

Fat lazy blogger.

[seeing_eye]

I was thinking the very same thing. I've seen Baez's motions, and I don't think that he wrote these. These came from Lyon, and I guess she's not talking about "who" wrote them.

She did seem like she was having a bad day today. I must say, I was not impressed with her dressing in matching colors with the perp. Smacks of the "games" that Casey likes to play, very juvenile.

Lyon showed her true colors to me in her first press conference where she said she had not yet had a chance to research the case, and in the next sentence proclaimed Casey's innocence. That gave me a preview of her "logic." I truly believe she has an abundance of education, but an atrocious lack of intelligence. JMO, of course.

[BettyC]

This isn't about what anyone looks like, even Casey. These comments on physical appearance are just wrong, IMO.

This is about justice for a little girl who didn't stand a chance.

You're right about that. Ever since our KatPrint told us she resembles A. Lyon, I've softened my attitude about it myself.

Whoever warned us about Lee's deposition was really on the money. I was so disgusted by him I've stopped reading it.

This family is despicable. EVERYONE else is a suspect, EVERYONE else is looney, but when asked if Casey was ever a suspect, he says NO.

[TunaMelt]

:lol:

George ain't gettin NO J.O.B.

What do you think he married Cindy for? He's a sun-tanning George Hamilton wanna be... MOO

And he spawned the same.

...who wears socks with shoes and shorts to court.

Be still my heart.
:biggrinjester:

[newsjunkie]

That was 3 minutes too long. :tonguewag:



I lost my head :shrug:

[DeeJay]

This isn't about what anyone looks like, even Casey. These comments on physical appearance are just wrong, IMO.

This is about justice for a little girl who didn't stand a chance.

Professionals, which include attorneys, should be well coiffed and dressed when appearing in court. They are representing someone are they not?

I would not engage an attorney that look sloppy and uncaring about themselves. AL does sloppy work.

I know full well what this case is about, I've been with it since day one. I am allowed to give my opinions about anyone in court as well as out.

[nana6]

Fat lazy blogger.

oh dear me!!!!

[need2no]

I lost my head :shrug:

Well thankfully you found it! :biggrin:

[need2no]

...who wears socks with shoes and shorts to court.

Be still my heart.
:biggrinjester:

Those who want to send a message that they don't respect the court?

[5swab5]

oh dear me!!!!


:lol: Don't anyone feel bad! I learned a new one tonight!

Thanks!

[Julie Dupree]

I was thinking the very same thing. I've seen Baez's motions, and I don't think that he wrote these. These came from Lyon, and I guess she's not talking about "who" wrote them.

She did seem like she was having a bad day today. I must say, I was not impressed with her dressing in matching colors with the perp. Smacks of the "games" that Casey likes to play, very juvenile.

I wonder if they have matching bracklets?

[TunaMelt]

Professionals, which include attorneys, should be well coiffed and dressed when appearing in court. They are representing someone are they not?

I would not engage an attorney that look sloppy and uncaring about themselves. AL does sloppy work.

I know full well what this case is about, I've been with it since day one. I am allowed to give my opinions about anyone in court as well as out.

Of course.

But look around that courtroom: I didn't see anyone in that courtroom who was "well-coiffed" DeeJay. Linda Drane Burdick doesn't have great hair and it's pretty sloppy looking IMO, but I support her 100% and I think she's a good attorney.

Lyons comes from academia. A lot of professors look like that, very few have "coifs." She fits into that look just fine, and to change it for her court appearance would be disingenuous, in a sense.

You get what you see, bad hair or not. It's what's inside the head that counts, DJ.

IMO

[TunaMelt]

Those who want to send a message that they don't respect the court?

Another aggressive combative stupid decision on the part of the Thumb.

:sneaky:

[Sun]

I wonder if they have matching bracklets?

Naw, Casey was the only one making clinking/clanking noises when she walked. I noticed that she wore leg shackles today.

[KTBarTheDoor]

george complaining about the sunshine law. stabbing his family in the back.

Q. Your gone the the national media and given information about your self correct

pg308
A. anything I can do to bring my granddaughter home and get my daughter out of jail i'll do it, I'll do it. I' sell my soul to the devil right now to get her out of jail.To answer your question.

I want them to ask if you think your Granddaughter is still out there george just who'd little girl did you cremate? Why if you think Caylee's alive did you take the steps to cremate someone else's daughter/granddaughter.

These people are all NUTS....mo. no wonder their own families dont have much to do with them..

[newsjunkie]

Is it just me or does anyone else wonder or know even if the Anthony's are helping pay the defense?
Twenty grand for 48hrs must have made JB wet himself :drool:

[newsjunkie]

Oh sorry... Cindy called all of us who are glued to this case fat, lazy bloggers. A lot of us now proudly call ourselves FLABs!

I actually thought it meant something else f__ l___ B___h
:closedeyes:

[TunaMelt]

george complaining about the sunshine law. stabbing his family in the back.

Q. Your gone the the national media and given information about your self correct

pg308
A. anything I can do to bring my granddaughter home and get my daughter out of jail i'll do it, I'll do it. I' sell my soul to the devil right now to get her out of jail.To answer your question.

I want them to ask if you think your Granddaughter is still out there george just who'd little girl did you cremate? Why if you think Caylee's alive did you take the steps to cremate someone else's daughter/granddaughter.

These people are all NUTS....mo. no wonder their own families dont have much to do with them..

I love when he says those "big man" "daddy hero" kinds of things, like "I'd give my own life if I could have her back" or this one, about selling his soul to the devil.

In both cases he knows the possibility of that happening is a great big ZERO, so he's completely safe in saying it.

I don't like him at all. Not even one scintilla of "at all." Less that this: .

If he were my neighbor we'd move, or build the tallest wall/fence in Orlando.

[BettyC]

Is it just me or does anyone else wonder or know even if the Anthony's are helping pay the defense?
Twenty grand for 48hrs must have made JB wet himself :drool:

I doubt it. Cindy was complaining that she had to give Brad $3,000 off the top of the first $10,000 and then had to pay taxes.

[TunaMelt]

Is it just me or does anyone else wonder or know even if the Anthony's are helping pay the defense?
Twenty grand for 48hrs must have made JB wet himself :drool:

I thought I read or heard Cindy whine that some $$$ of that 20 thousand went to Mssr. Baez.

And taxes.


But I wouldn't sell my soul to the devil :sneaky:on the chance of my being right about this.
:wink:

[*Serenity*]

Professionals, which include attorneys, should be well coiffed and dressed when appearing in court. They are representing someone are they not?

I would not engage an attorney that look sloppy and uncaring about themselves. AL does sloppy work.

I know full well what this case is about, I've been with it since day one. I am allowed to give my opinions about anyone in court as well as out.

Court room appearances make profound statements without a word coming from them. When ALyon speaks who can even hear a word she has to say when they have to look at her. If she isn't smart enough to do something about herself, how can she help someone else? She is another cash cow in this mess. IMO JMO MOO............ lol.....

[need2no]

Another aggressive combative stupid decision on the part of the Thumb.

:sneaky:

ITA, and they are shooting themselves in the foot. I wonder if they will pull these stunts during the trial.

[kakax]

I didn't say you weren't. I still think commenting on a person's physical appearance is wrong and I did say "in my opinion".

Go for it.

Its easy to really dislike defende attys. Guilty of a few physical appearance attacks myself. Trying to be better, but I have to say the exact same weird color green today couldn't have been a coincidence. Its weird.

[TunaMelt]

Court room appearances make profound statements without a word coming from them. When ALyon speaks who can even hear a word she has to say when they have to look at her. If she isn't smart enough to do something about herself, how can she help someone else? She is another cash cow in this mess. IMO JMO MOO............ lol.....

She's well-respected and successful in her crusade against the death penalty, Serenity -- so I dare say someone listens to her. Despite what you and DeeJay think about her looks, which really is getting a little bit tedious and silly but that's my opinion.

I just wouldn't hire an attorney on the basis of her hair, her weight, or her outfit.

C'mon...LOL, it's a bad hair LIFE down there in that heat and humidity.

Let's drop the "coif" thing...it's almost embarassing to talk about it.

IMO
:seeya:

[newsjunkie]

I thought I read or heard Cindy whine that some $$$ of that 20 thousand went to Mssr. Baez.

And taxes.


But I wouldn't sell my soul to the devil :sneaky:on the chance of my being right about this.
:wink:




That was to Brad Conway, their lawyer. I just try to figure out the family dynamics here, George says he would give up everything to see his daughter released but not $$$ ?

[*Serenity*]

I didn't say you weren't. I still think commenting on a person's physical appearance is wrong and I did say "in my opinion".

Go for it.

Does that include George, Cindy, Lee, and Casey? Especially Casey's disgusting tatoo and back? Cindy's mushroom hair cut? George's attire for the court room? Just curious more than anything-- not trying to battle opinions here but it would seem that if that is your opinion, well it would be for everyone not just A. Lyon... right?

:glare:

[TunaMelt]

ITA, and they are shooting themselves in the foot. I wonder if they will pull these stunts during the trial.

I think we can count on it.
:wink:

[*Serenity*]

She's well-respected and successful in her crusade against the death penalty, Serenity -- so I dare say someone listens to her. Despite what you and DeeJay think about her looks, which really is getting a little bit tedious and silly but that's my opinion.

I just wouldn't hire an attorney on the basis of her hair, her weight, or her outfit.

C'mon...LOL, it's a bad hair LIFE down there in that heat and humidity.

Let's drop the "coif" thing...it's almost embarassing to talk about it.

IMO
:seeya:

Yea.. okay TM you are correct-- so let's talk about the disgusting appearances of the Anthony's. :)

[kakax]

I'm beginning to think Nancy sticks to one case because she can follow it better. Between the twins, her four day work week, her book promotion tour, phone calls from Sheba in Illinois, and I don't know what else, she doesn't have much time to jump from case to case, absorbing all the details.

I can't even believe she's still going on and on about Misty and Ron, but she is. Tells me it's the ONE case she's focused on right now.

Her new thing is twitter. I'm not sure she has time to follow even one case she tweets twits or whatver it is.

[*Serenity*]

I'm beginning to think Nancy sticks to one case because she can follow it better. Between the twins, her four day work week, her book promotion tour, phone calls from Sheba in Illinois, and I don't know what else, she doesn't have much time to jump from case to case, absorbing all the details.

I can't even believe she's still going on and on about Misty and Ron, but she is. Tells me it's the ONE case she's focused on right now.

At times I have thought Nancy was a tad scared to cross too many lines with the Anthony's and get sued-- like she did in the Melinda Duckett case. Just my personal opinion.

[need2no]

That was to Brad Conway, their lawyer. I just try to figure out the family dynamics here, George says he would give up everything to see his daughter released but not $$$ ?

Ah come on now... give George some credit. Afterall he did put a whole big fifty bucks in casey's account. :lol:

[kakax]

Ugh... end my last sentence with

So much

I can't edit on this little thing.

[*Serenity*]

Ah come on now... give George some credit. Afterall he did put a whole big fifty bucks in casey's account. :lol:

He prolly stole that, I mean borrowed that from Lee's piggy bank. lol

Lee did state in his depo that even his Dad would go in his room and grab his change for a newspaper, or whatnot. He used the word whatnot a lot. lol AND IIRC George is the one who told the FBI or LE that Casey stole from Caylee's piggybank. Whole lot of stealing going on in that house. Checks- credit cards- gas- piggy banks.... sheesh...

[Duke]

You mean I didn't have to make oatmeal every morning for 3 1/2 years for my twins?

But then again, I was still cutting their grapes in half when they were 5.

I wonder why Cindy would ever say these kind of things. She tries to make it sound like Caylee was advanced for her age in a bragging sort of way, not realizing people will wonder why is a 2 1/2 year old getting pre-sugared cereal, not sitting in a high chair, etc.

imo


Impartial, yes I think most parents are up at the crack of dawn making exactly how you describe most households. Any child left alone at that age (other than their bed) is extremelly odd to me.

Maybe this is our "aha" moment that KC's parents raised her like this and she was raising herself w/o any guidance because this is only what she knew and the only way KC could get along in her little word was to lie through everything just get something herself....food, water...

Not to get too deep, but the raising of a child the way KC was doing it w/ Caylee does not mean she was raised like this but it sure is pointing that way IMO

[Spots]

Ah come on now... give George some credit. Afterall he did put a whole big fifty bucks in casey's account. :lol:

It was Cindy's money, money order signed by her.

George was just the delivery service.

[need2no]

At times I have thought Nancy was a tad scared to cross too many lines with the Anthony's and get sued-- like she did in the Melinda Duckett case. Just my personal opinion.

I definitely think that has a big impact, she was a bit soft with Cindy. I also think it's possible we will see a change in Nancy one way or the other based on the outcome of her trial in the Duckett case.

[newsjunkie]

Ah come on now... give George some credit. Afterall he did put a whole big fifty bucks in casey's account. :lol:


Lost my head again!:tongueside:

[KTBarTheDoor]

I love when he says those "big man" "daddy hero" kinds of things, like "I'd give my own life if I could have her back" or this one, about selling his soul to the devil.

In both cases he knows the possibility of that happening is a great big ZERO, so he's completely safe in saying it.

I don't like him at all. Not even one scintilla of "at all." Less that this: .

If he were my neighbor we'd move, or build the tallest wall/fence in Orlando.

i agree he sickening.. also were not making much just a few thousand to help make ends me, neither one of us is working...$20,000 is just a few? must seem like meager pittance since they made 10 x that with first interview..er whisper for the video, pictures for licensing fees. ( as i clear my throat.)

[need2no]

It was Cindy's money, money order signed by her.

George was just the delivery service.

Oh my, I didn't realize that. Silly me, I should have known Cindy inserted her name in the 'good deed'.

[5swab5]

Court room appearances make profound statements without a word coming from them. When ALyon speaks who can even hear a word she has to say when they have to look at her. If she isn't smart enough to do something about herself, how can she help someone else? She is another cash cow in this mess. IMO JMO MOO............ lol.....


Truer words have never been spoken. Just recently, in the Carla Hughes trial, we were entranced with Michael Guest's, nice "southern drawl".

Followed by the empathic "drawl" of Mr. Johnnie Walls.

Life can make or break itself inside a courtroom. I just don't see it here. SOMETHING needs to stick to the refrigerator! MOO

[Explorer]

:laugh: So true!

Plus, her hair is atrocious! :ohmy:

And needs to lose about 60pounds.

I am not sure she'll go the distance with this case. She may drop out before next summer.

I agree she looks horrible and the matching hospital scrubs didnt help:biggrin:

[*Serenity*]

Oh my, I didn't realize that. Silly me, I should have known Cindy inserted her name in the 'good deed'.

I have read that Casey did give her parents a smile in the court room today. I have yet to see a photo or the clip.... she must have decided she better give them something in order to keep her account up to snuff ... lol... kinda hard to steal from Mama behind bars. They are still playing those silly games. lol

[kakax]

Betch LKL would agree with you. :laugh:
Rofl!
And even Jose in a shade of green...It is LKL weird.

[5swab5]

She's well-respected and successful in her crusade against the death penalty, Serenity -- so I dare say someone listens to her. Despite what you and DeeJay think about her looks, which really is getting a little bit tedious and silly but that's my opinion.

I just wouldn't hire an attorney on the basis of her hair, her weight, or her outfit.

C'mon...LOL, it's a bad hair LIFE down there in that heat and humidity.

Let's drop the "coif" thing...it's almost embarassing to talk about it.

IMO
:seeya:

I think Beth is hating it too. Humidity is not a lady's best friend. Doesn't mean you have to dress like the "Jolly Green Giant", to matchy-matchy with your client. Just Sayin'.
MOO

[*Serenity*]

Truer words have never been spoken. Just recently, in the Carla Hughes trial, we were entranced with Michael Guest's, nice "southern drawl".

Followed by the empathic "drawl" of Mr. Johnnie Walls.

Life can make or break itself inside a courtroom. I just don't see it here. SOMETHING needs to stick to the refrigerator! MOO

I'm glad we are MOO... ing on this one 5s5..... :)

As a juror myself I have always noticed when the lawyers were polished and professional, and I didn't care what side of the fence either.

[*Serenity*]

I think Beth is hating it too. Humidity is not a lady's best friend. Doesn't mean you have to dress like the "Jolly Green Giant", to matchy-matchy with your client. Just Sayin'.
MOO

Beth is a doll and professional even on a bad hair day.

[need2no]

I have read that Casey did give her parents a smile in the court room today. I have yet to see a photo or the clip.... she must have decided she better give them something in order to keep her account up to snuff ... lol... kinda hard to steal from Mama behind bars. They are still playing those silly games. lol

Yes, I read she smiled at her parents but haven't seen video or a pic of when casey arrived in court.

I think both casey and Caylee were given 'rewards' when they smiled pretty for the camera, or behaved as expected by Cindy. casey is still playing by the rules in a way...she is rewarding Cindy this time.

[crimeq]

Defense after the hearing

http://www.wftv.com/video/21317695/index.html


Listen to WHAT!! Belich asks Lyons DO YOU LET YOUR STUDENTS WRITE THESE MOTIONS LMAO!!!:lol:


here you can see everything even interview with ConMAN

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html

LOL, Andrea certainly didn't like that, "You are kidding, right?"

Nope, Kathi wasn't kidding, Andrea. I wondered the same thing.

[Duke]

I'm telling you this at the risk of being called a bad mother... but my eldest son used to do this when he was two. There was a time that I was quite ill and my husband was away working a lot. I would get a bowl of cereal ready the night before, put milk in a sippy cup and he could do his own breakfast. And no problem with turning the TV on and popping in a VHS tape.

I hate to stand up for Cindy in any possible way, but I do believe this one part of her depo.

Oh AnniePie, I think you sound like a great mom. Just being on this thread and trying to do what is right for Caylee. I still see no way my son could have done that but he could do other things that surprised the blank out of me at his age. I guess Cindy could be correct and not lying on this so I concede considering everyone else’s comments that she could be telling the truth in this ONE part of her testimony. :smile:

[kakax]

Can someone explian Long Term Disability to me? I know my husband pays for something like that for himself but I thought it was only usable if he could not work physically. Can you get it for emotional stress? Family member being murdered? What is the criteria? Did they have to declare her mentally ill?

[need2no]

I'm not trying to get into a battle either, but I don't feel it's nice to comment on the appearance of any of these people. Discussing Lee's tubesocks, George's attire in court and Casey's tatoo are different, because these things aren't part of their being... they are what they put on their bodies. I just feel that it's demeaning to people to ridicule things that they have no control over.

For all we know, AL could have been a very pretty woman at one time, but age changes us all in ways that are amazing and often unwelcome. And we all know that some people have a very difficult time with their weight.

That's my opinion. Like it or not. :smile:

Here's Andrea's facebook pic:

http://www.facebook.com/profile/pic.php?uid=AAAAAQAQ9RAIyeje7Si2t_i3JbioaAAAAAkE5k EG6KO869nFiMCPIGbq

[*Serenity*]

I'm not trying to get into a battle either, but I don't feel it's nice to comment on the appearance of any of these people. Discussing Lee's tubesocks, George's attire in court and Casey's tatoo are different, because these things aren't part of their being... they are what they put on their bodies. I just feel that it's demeaning to people to ridicule things that they have no control over.

For all we know, AL could have been a very pretty woman at one time, but age changes us all in ways that are amazing and often unwelcome. And we all know that some people have a very difficult time with their weight.

That's my opinion. Like it or not. :smile:

Oh I see.... you want it both ways and different rules for different fools. Okie Dokie.... Glad we have this all cleared up now... and I remain to believe ALyon needs to clean herself up and make a trip to Lane Bryant for some professional assistance on how to dress the weight she carries. Over weight women dress professional and look fantastic... believe it or not...!! It's not the weight but what you do with it.

MOO

[*Serenity*]

Here's Andrea's facebook pic:

http://www.facebook.com/profile/pic.php?uid=AAAAAQAQ9RAIyeje7Si2t_i3JbioaAAAAAkE5k EG6KO869nFiMCPIGbq

See.... that's what I am talking about!!
She looks polished and professional... glad to know she knows how to take control of herself. :)

[kakax]

LOL, Andrea certainly didn't like that, "You are kidding, right?"

Nope, Kathi wasn't kidding, Andrea. I wondered the same thing.

Hiya CQ! That will go in my favorite videos on this case. I love Kathi.

[seeing_eye]

I'm not trying to get into a battle either, but I don't feel it's nice to comment on the appearance of any of these people. Discussing Lee's tubesocks, George's attire in court and Casey's tatoo are different, because these things aren't part of their being... they are what they put on their bodies. I just feel that it's demeaning to people to ridicule things that they have no control over.

For all we know, AL could have been a very pretty woman at one time, but age changes us all in ways that are amazing and often unwelcome. And we all know that some people have a very difficult time with their weight.

That's my opinion. Like it or not. :smile:

BBM
Thanks, Annie. You pretty much described me to a T! Age changes us all, some more than others. For the majority of my life I would never have believed what I was eventually to turn into!! (Still can't believe it till I accidentally happen to cross in front of a mirror.)

[Sun]

LOL, Andrea certainly didn't like that, "You are kidding, right?"

Nope, Kathi wasn't kidding, Andrea. I wondered the same thing.

Kathi tends to ask some of the same questions that I am greatly interested in hearing answered. IMO, this is one of the reasons that I enjoy her style of investigative reporting. She's done her homework. She's well informed. And, best of all, she wants to give her viewers what they most desire. (she also manages to look quite the professional doing it too!)

[5swab5]

Beth is a doll and professional even on a bad hair day.


YEP!

But, She's got hair like mine..she's gotta be hatin' the humidity in FL. (sorry)

Otherwise?.......SOMEBODY "tingle" someone and KEEP the old CVT idea ALIVE!!!

Gavel to Gavel. PLEASE don't quit In the middle of November. I swear I will cancel my sattelite!

[achristie]

Yes, I read she smiled at her parents but haven't seen video or a pic of when casey arrived in court.

I think both casey and Caylee were given 'rewards' when they smiled pretty for the camera, or behaved as expected by Cindy. casey is still playing by the rules in a way...she is rewarding Cindy this time.

I'm just wondering why she is rewarding her mother now? Is it because they have exchanged private letters? Is it because her father put money in her account? I've not followed as closely as all of you, but this is the first I've heard of her acknowledging her parents in a kind way in the court room. Perhaps she's beginning to see the light after being in jail? Perhaps she now realizes that her parents are the ONLY ones to give her unconditional support? I'm not sanctioning their behavior by any means. Just making an observation.

MOO Aggie

[seeing_eye]

See.... that's what I am talking about!!
She looks polished and professional... glad to know she knows how to take control of herself. :)

That picture may have been photoshopped. I know if I post one of my pictures, it would definitely be photoshopped!!

[need2no]

Can someone explian Long Term Disability to me? I know my husband pays for something like that for himself but I thought it was only usable if he could not work physically. Can you get it for emotional stress? Family member being murdered? What is the criteria? Did they have to declare her mentally ill?


A stress claim would require a psychiatrist to state they were unable to CONTINUE working, or return to work due to extreme stress related illness. The doctor would have to specify the condition or conditions that make it impossible for them to hold down a job at this time, as well as note any meds they are taking for the condition (s). Also the LTD provider could require a second opinion with a doctor they select. No way a LTD provider would pay her/them after seeing all their public appearances and shenanigans. If submitted the claim would be denied, IMO.

[Explorer]

That picture may have been photoshopped. I know if I post one of my pictures, it would definitely be photoshopped!!

Yes it looks like it. She has very deep bags under her eyes.

[*Serenity*]

Can someone explian Long Term Disability to me? I know my husband pays for something like that for himself but I thought it was only usable if he could not work physically. Can you get it for emotional stress? Family member being murdered? What is the criteria? Did they have to declare her mentally ill?


Hearing this from Cindy in my opinion means there is a lie in the mix here. She could have applied for it and has not received it yet, and I'm not sure if she could get anything from the State. I'm sure she would have to provide a lot of information from her income (media) and then according to Lee is living there to help them pay rent. So he says..lol

[kakax]

A stress claim would require a psychiatrist to state they were unable to CONTINUE working, or return to work due to extreme stress related illness. The doctor would have to specify the condition or conditions that make it impossible for them to hold down a job at this time, as well as note any meds they are taking for the condition (s). Also the LTD provider could require a second opinion with a doctor they select. No way a LTD provider would pay her/them after seeing all their public appearances and shenanigans. If submitted the claim would be denied, IMO.

Its so easy to verify. These Anthinys just.can't be honest about anything.

[need2no]

I'm just wondering why she is rewarding her mother now? Is it because they have exchanged private letters? Is it because her father put money in her account? I've not followed as closely as all of you, but this is the first I've heard of her acknowledging her parents in a kind way in the court room. Perhaps she's beginning to see the light after being in jail? Perhaps she now realizes that her parents are the ONLY ones to give her unconditional support? I'm not sanctioning their behavior by any means. Just making an observation.

MOO Aggie

IMO it's ONLY because they put money in her account. In past hearings she hardly gave them a glance, let alone a smile, except for one a while back after Jose Baez whispered something in her ear.

I really doubt casey will ever see the light.

[farrahrani]

I'm not trying to get into a battle either, but I don't feel it's nice to comment on the appearance of any of these people. Discussing Lee's tubesocks, George's attire in court and Casey's tatoo are different, because these things aren't part of their being... they are what they put on their bodies. I just feel that it's demeaning to people to ridicule things that they have no control over.

For all we know, AL could have been a very pretty woman at one time, but age changes us all in ways that are amazing and often unwelcome. And we all know that some people have a very difficult time with their weight.

That's my opinion. Like it or not. :smile:


Thank you. I meant to say something earlier but kept getting distracted. It seems kind of petty to comment about physical attributes, it makes us sound like the characters in that teen movie 'Mean Girls' I'd like to think most of us are above that.

And Coldwater also issued warnings about attacks on physical appearance months ago after someone complained.

[*Serenity*]

Its so easy to verify. These Anthinys just.can't be honest about anything.

I do believe George when he stated he would sell his soul to the devil to get Casey out of jail. He sold his soul to the devil a long time ago in this case!!

I still can't wrap my mind around the fact Lee thinks Caylee is still alive!
AND Jessie is Zenaida...!!

[need2no]

Its so easy to verify. These Anthinys just.can't be honest about anything.

I think they've llied so much over the years, they don't even recognize the truth anymore. My ex was like that, I sometimes thought he believed his own lies, and he lied when the truth sounded better. Sociopaths!

[kakax]

I do believe George when he stated he would sell his soul to the devil to get Casey out of jail. He sold his soul to the devil a long time ago in this case!!

I still can't wrap my mind around the fact Lee thinks Caylee is still alive!
AND Jessie is Zenaida...!!

Guess he wasn't talking about Caylee Marie Anthony at the memorial then. I haven't read his depo yet.

[Explorer]

I think they've llied so much over the years, they don't even recognize the truth anymore. My ex was like that, I sometimes thought he believed his own lies, and he lied when the truth sounded better. Sociopaths!

Glad to hear he is your EX

[*Serenity*]

Thank you. I meant to say something earlier but kept getting distracted. It seems kind of petty to comment about physical attributes, it makes us sound like the characters in that teen movie 'Mean Girls' I'd like to think most of us are above that.

And Coldwater also issued warnings about attacks on physical appearance months ago after someone complained.



http://www.streetdirectory.com/travel_guide/163746/lawyers_and_attorneys/trial_lawyers_keeping_up_a_professional_appearance .html




In the beginning, if alawyer presents an appearance of being offensive, his image more or lessbecomes tarnished for the rest of the proceedings. In the eyes of thoseobserving the lawyer, he already has a lower ethos. However persuasive hisarguments may be, these may also be affected by the initial appearance he hasshown.


Google is loaded with the topic of lawyers court room appearance and provides a ton of information for lawyers about how they look.

[kakax]

I think they've llied so much over the years, they don't even recognize the truth anymore. My ex was like that, I sometimes thought he believed his own lies, and he lied when the truth sounded better. Sociopaths!

Frightening. It really is. Its like they don't really know what the truth is. Their lives are delusions.

[Duke]

Not different rules at all. I personally don't comment on what people look like, because I don't think it's right. Not just the Anthony clan.

I'm so-oh sorry I brought this up.

Never mind. Please feel free to put me on Ignore if I bother you. :smile:

Please...everyone, and I say this peacefully:smile:. This whole darn thing is about this hearing "today", and tomorrow will be something else that we will discuss that will come up in the newspaper. Does it really matter how this attorney looks? I am not that purty either but my husband loves me:laugh:. If you think she needs a conditioner than so be it, but do we really need to go after Anniepie? I have my umbrella up if need be, but I have a moment to discuss the case. A group hug for Annie would be great now.

[*Serenity*]

Guess he wasn't talking about Caylee Marie Anthony at the memorial then. I haven't read his depo yet.


They ask him about the CMA and the memorial. He was talking to all three women in his life- Mom, Casey, and Caylee... what a crock.
And he went further and said they were the top 3 women in his life and sorry to Mallory for being #4...!! So- he lied to them because at the memorial he made that promise to CMA he would never tell.. and looks like he didn't and he won't.

[*Serenity*]

Please...everyone, and I say this peacefully:smile:. This whole darn thing is about this hearing "today", and tomorrow will be something else that we will discuss that will come up in the newspaper. Does it really matter how this attorney looks? I am not that purty either but my husband loves me:laugh:. If you think she needs a conditioner than so be it, but do we really need to go after Anniepie? I have my umbrella up if need be, but I have a moment to discuss the case. A group hug for Annie would be great now.

I have no reason to group hug anyone-- I have my opinion and she has hers. Plenty of discussion going on about the case, and the depositions. We don't have to agree to be here.

Feel free to start a topic or comment about today's court appearances.

The judge did rule, did you hear that?

[kakax]

They ask him about the CMA and the memorial. He was talking to all three women in his life- Mom, Casey, and Caylee... what a crock.
And he went further and said they were the top 3 women in his life and sorry to Mallory for being #4...!! So- he lied to them because at the memorial he made that promise to CMA he would never tell.. and looks like he didn't and he won't.

And yet mallory stays...I tell you what...I have never met anyone like this cast of characters. Thank heavens.

[BettyC]

They ask him about the CMA and the memorial. He was talking to all three women in his life- Mom, Casey, and Caylee... what a crock.
And he went further and said they were the top 3 women in his life and sorry to Mallory for being #4...!! So- he lied to them because at the memorial he made that promise to CMA he would never tell.. and looks like he didn't and he won't.

That's right. It's a shame the prosecutors didn't go one step further in questioning him about that speech. They just asked general questions and didn't get specific about that line. Absolute kook.

[Explorer]

And yet mallory stays...I tell you what...I have never met anyone like this cast of characters. Thank heavens.

Mallory will be very very sorry one day.

[kakax]

Mallory will be very very sorry one day.

No doubt! A man who will say his top three women aren't you and you want to make a life with him? And they are his mother sis and niece? Creepy.

[achristie]

IMO it's ONLY because they put money in her account. In past hearings she hardly gave them a glance, let alone a smile, except for one a while back after Jose Baez whispered something in her ear.

I really doubt casey will ever see the light.

I meant the light only as it relates to her.....in her immediate world. She was tough and sassy when first incarcerated. It was all new and she still believed she could call the shots. One means of control was to ignore her parents in the courtroom. She wanted them to pay for her suffering. After all, her mother called 911 and started the ball rolling. I think she's finally realized that punishing Mommy and Daddy ain't gonna get her out of jail.

MOO Aggie

[*Serenity*]

No doubt! A man who will say his top three women aren't you and you want to make a life with him? And they are his mother sis and niece? Creepy.

His entire deposition kept referring to 'we' throughout and at times, not all the time the State would have to call him on it. So when I continued to read his 'we' I am confident it was him, Cindy, George, and Baez!!

I did like the questions about his sisters riddles... and did the riddles get worse!! Talking in riddles to where whatever she said could be taken different ways. All of them operate in riddles... IMO

[need2no]

Mallory will be very very sorry one day.

True, but hard to feel sorry for her. Goodness knows she has had loads of opportunities to see what she is getting into. One day she may look back and say OMG....why didn't I SEE this, love is so blind.

Oh the other hand she may be hanging in there so she can write her own book one day.:wink:

[Explorer]

True, but hard to feel sorry for her. Goodness knows she has had loads of opportunities to see what she is getting into. One day she may look back and say OMG....why didn't I SEE this, love is so blind.

Oh the other hand she may be hanging in there so she can write her own book one day.:wink:

One look at middle finger and you can tell hes a real creep.

[*Serenity*]

True, but hard to feel sorry for her. Goodness knows she has had loads of opportunities to see what she is getting into. One day she may look back and say OMG....why didn't I SEE this, love is so blind.

Oh the other hand she may be hanging in there so she can write her own book one day.:wink:


Also: Lee stated he did not watch anything about this case on TV or online... he simply didn't eat, breathe, and sleep this case. He wants his life to move on, get married and have a family. :scared:
So- Mallory is in for the long haul and I pray if they have children that the child is taken care of properly and cared for. All of which Caylee did not have. :(

[KTBarTheDoor]

I do believe George when he stated he would sell his soul to the devil to get Casey out of jail. He sold his soul to the devil a long time ago in this case!!

I still can't wrap my mind around the fact Lee thinks Caylee is still alive!
AND Jessie is Zenaida...!!

seems to me they are all trying to pull that crap.. IMO its a plan to try ans sway others Caylee is alive ..like the jury pool..

[need2no]

I meant the light only as it relates to her.....in her immediate world. She was tough and sassy when first incarcerated. It was all new and she still believed she could call the shots. One means of control was to ignore her parents in the courtroom. She wanted them to pay for her suffering. After all, her mother called 911 and started the ball rolling. I think she's finally realized that punishing Mommy and Daddy ain't gonna get her out of jail.

MOO Aggie


Aggie I knew what you meant and I agree with you. Surely she is 'getting it' by now and learning the rules of the game. You smile pretty acknowledging us in court, and we will provide money.

I wonder if they will put more money in her account since she smiled at them today. But I still want to see a pic as proof she did smile.

[*Serenity*]

seems to me they are all trying to pull that crap.. IMO its a plan to try ans sway others Caylee is alive ..like the jury pool..

I wonder who the heck they think the little girl is that they cremated and carry around in their jewelery? They are so out of control and have been since Day 1.

LOL Lee told the State he was a mommy's boy and Casey was a daddy's girl... LMAO

Also- I just know the picture they were showing Lee of Caylee with the pink shirt on was the one with Big Trouble that I saw way back in the beginning. That photo is around somewhere and that is the one they found her in. Sure wish I could find it. Anway- Lee didn't claim to have really noticed Caylee in that shirt. Well.. did Lee even notice Caylee at all?

[need2no]

One look at middle finger and you can tell hes a real creep.

At the beginning of this case when we first saw Lee I was creeped out, something about him didn't sit well with me. So many others on the board seemed to put faith in him that he'd be the one to solve this, break casey. I never felt confidence in him or his ability or desire to do the right thing, in fact I think he is up to his eyeballs in this.

[KTBarTheDoor]

Wonder how many Lies george was caught in Since giving his Grand Jury testimony? Bet the DA's can't wait unilt he's on the witness stand . Im sure his statement about doing whatever it takes to get Casey out of Jail will bite him in the but at trial..jmho

[BettyC]

Aggie I knew what you meant and I agree with you. Surely she is 'getting it' by now and learning the rules of the game. You smile pretty acknowledging us in court, and we will provide money.

I wonder if they will put more money in her account since she smiled at them today. But I still want to see a pic as proof she did smile.

Because of the video feed problem early in the hearing, I doubt we'll ever see that photo. I think we should just ask Kathi Belich.

Casey normally doesn't even look in their direction when she's brought into court (clang clang clang).

[Bala]

Also: Lee stated he did not watch anything about this case on TV or online... he simply didn't eat, breathe, and sleep this case. He wants his life to move on, get married and have a family. :scared:
So- Mallory is in for the long haul and I pray if they have children that the child is taken care of properly and cared for. All of which Caylee did not have. :(
I think that once they have a child that will be when it hits Mallory. Imagine having to leave your baby with Cindy and George or even Lee and trust they will do the right thing. Imagine the fear if you can't find your child for even a moment.

[KTBarTheDoor]

new thread .were over 1,000 posts

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=13565743#post13565743


come on over doors open.

[achristie]

Aggie I knew what you meant and I agree with you. Surely she is 'getting it' by now and learning the rules of the game. You smile pretty acknowledging us in court, and we will provide money.

I wonder if they will put more money in her account since she smiled at them today. But I still want to see a pic as proof she did smile.

As zany as this whole family is, I have to say , when she had the gall to ignore her parents in the courtroom, I was ready to jump out of my skin. All I could think was "how dare you, you little snit!" I want to see a pic of her smiling at them too. I won't believe it until I see it.

MOO Aggie

[*Serenity*]

At the beginning of this case when we first saw Lee I was creeped out, something about him didn't sit well with me. So many others on the board seemed to put faith in him that he'd be the one to solve this, break casey. I never felt confidence in him or his ability or desire to do the right thing, in fact I think he is up to his eyeballs in this.

He started out like this from day 1 when LE arrived to their house.
Mr. PI running for the notepad and hanging out in the room next to Casey's so he could hear.

OMG... he was even role playing about being a Cop and talking to Casey before LE ever arrived. He wanted to put her through the role playing of what she would do and what would she say...!! I forgot that tid-bit. Afterall it is something like 400 pages.

[achristie]

Bringing this over.......

achristie
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by need2no
Aggie I knew what you meant and I agree with you. Surely she is 'getting it' by now and learning the rules of the game. You smile pretty acknowledging us in court, and we will provide money.

I wonder if they will put more money in her account since she smiled at them today. But I still want to see a pic as proof she did smile.
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As zany as this whole family is, I have to say , when she had the gall to ignore her parents in the courtroom, I was ready to jump out of my skin. All I could think was "how dare you, you little snit!" I want to see a pic of her smiling at them too. I won't believe it until I see it.

MOO Aggie

[*Serenity*]

Bringing this over as well............!!


He started out like this from day 1 when LE arrived to their house.
Mr. PI running for the notepad and hanging out in the room next to Casey's so he could hear.

OMG... he was even role playing about being a Cop and talking to Casey before LE ever arrived. He wanted to put her through the role playing of what she would do and what would she say...!! I forgot that tid-bit. Afterall it is something like 400 pages.

[ladeebug565]

page 77, part 1 of Cindys depo she says (typos mine)

"As she got older, she had, you know a set breakfast. She’d get up, as she got older, she would get her own breakfast. She could go in and get a cup of cereal and watch her own movies…."

uhm, At two years old Caylee would get up and make her own breakfast and turn on the video player and select her own movie? Anyone believe this? It has been a while but I remember there is no way my son could have done this at that age.

Our granddaughter will be 2 next week. She's very bright, very articulate. Could she get out a box of cereal and poor a bowl for herself? No. Could she grab a dvd and put it in the player, turn on the tv and get the video to play? No. Do I believe a word that Cindy Anthony says? No. I don't believe a good parent or grandparent would allow a 2 year old to wander freely throughout the house while they sleep.

[KTBarTheDoor]

Bringing this over.......

achristie
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by need2no
Aggie I knew what you meant and I agree with you. Surely she is 'getting it' by now and learning the rules of the game. You smile pretty acknowledging us in court, and we will provide money.

I wonder if they will put more money in her account since she smiled at them today. But I still want to see a pic as proof she did smile.
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As zany as this whole family is, I have to say , when she had the gall to ignore her parents in the courtroom, I was ready to jump out of my skin. All I could think was "how dare you, you little snit!" I want to see a pic of her smiling at them too. I won't believe it until I see it.

MOO Aggie

probably her way of saying I got my snacks...

[KTBarTheDoor]

Bringing this over as well............!!


He started out like this from day 1 when LE arrived to their house.
Mr. PI running for the notepad and hanging out in the room next to Casey's so he could hear.

OMG... he was even role playing about being a Cop and talking to Casey before LE ever arrived. He wanted to put her through the role playing of what she would do and what would she say...!! I forgot that tid-bit. Afterall it is something like 400 pages.

IMO they had every detail planned right down to what questions LE would ask. However one big problem. LE wasn't going to take every word she said and believe it.. She thought she'd tell her "story" then no questions would be asked.

[kakax]

His entire deposition kept referring to 'we' throughout and at times, not all the time the State would have to call him on it. So when I continued to read his 'we' I am confident it was him, Cindy, George, and Baez!!

I did like the questions about his sisters riddles... and did the riddles get worse!! Talking in riddles to where whatever she said could be taken different ways. All of them operate in riddles... IMO

For awhile we thought maybe Lee was honest. Guess he wasn't. Need to remind myself often that there will always be questions in this case. She has too many people covering for her and not enough that know the real Casey.

[Bala]

I wonder who the heck they think the little girl is that they cremated and carry around in their jewelery? They are so out of control and have been since Day 1.

LOL Lee told the State he was a mommy's boy and Casey was a daddy's girl... LMAO

Also- I just know the picture they were showing Lee of Caylee with the pink shirt on was the one with Big Trouble that I saw way back in the beginning. That photo is around somewhere and that is the one they found her in. Sure wish I could find it. Anway- Lee didn't claim to have really noticed Caylee in that shirt. Well.. did Lee even notice Caylee at all?
What they should do is put down large pictures of Caylee's remains. Maybe starring at them for a while will shake their memory and help them recall what Casey did to Caylee. Maybe a little reality will shake George up enough to tell the truth.

[*Serenity*]

IMO they had every detail planned right down to what questions LE would ask. However one big problem. LE wasn't going to take every word she said and believe it.. She thought she'd tell her "story" then no questions would be asked.

Casey started out with the lies immediately-- Caylee was sleeping and she didn't want to disturb her routine-- well she was right about Caylee sleeping, she just failed to add that she was sleeping forever dead.

Then she left Caylee with Zeanida and later after her release the 100lb Zeanida held her down at Blanchard Park and snatched her Caylee with a script. AND Lee still thinks after all this BS that Caylee is alive and Zeanida is Jessie Grund.

I just love how Lee explains to him all the different people that lied to him, however Casey is not really included in his low opinions. :thumbdown:

[*Serenity*]

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21315101/detail.html

[5swab5]

Bringing this over: Hope you don't mind: (please ..make this work!)



*Serenity*
Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kakax
No doubt! A man who will say his top three women aren't you and you want to make a life with him? And they are his mother sis and niece? Creepy.

His entire deposition kept referring to 'we' throughout and at times, not all the time the State would have to call him on it. So when I continued to read his 'we' I am confident it was him, Cindy, George, and Baez!!

I did like the questions about his sisters riddles... and did the riddles get worse!! Talking in riddles to where whatever she said could be taken different ways. All of them operate in riddles... IMO
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The whole family has been playing riddles forever. It is amazing to me...EVEN caught in "white light", they still think they can fool the rest of the population. MOO

[need2no]

Bringing this over.......

achristie
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Originally Posted by need2no
Aggie I knew what you meant and I agree with you. Surely she is 'getting it' by now and learning the rules of the game. You smile pretty acknowledging us in court, and we will provide money.

I wonder if they will put more money in her account since she smiled at them today. But I still want to see a pic as proof she did smile.
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As zany as this whole family is, I have to say , when she had the gall to ignore her parents in the courtroom, I was ready to jump out of my skin. All I could think was "how dare you, you little snit!" I want to see a pic of her smiling at them too. I won't believe it until I see it.

MOO Aggie


Me too, even if the Anthony's were involved in the coverup, and with all their lies, shenanigans, and share of shame ... casey did take their granddaughter from them after putting them through years of he!!. She
also caused the public exposure of their personal lives, and turned their world as they knew it upside down. Meanwhile she has the audacity to snub her nose at them while they are going everywhere declaring her innocence.

casey needs to wake up and realize they are the only people who will give a hoot about her when she is serving LWOP, or waiting on death row.

I was just googling trying to find a pic of casey entering court, haven't found anything yet.

[need2no]

Bringing this over as well............!!


He started out like this from day 1 when LE arrived to their house.
Mr. PI running for the notepad and hanging out in the room next to Casey's so he could hear.

OMG... he was even role playing about being a Cop and talking to Casey before LE ever arrived. He wanted to put her through the role playing of what she would do and what would she say...!! I forgot that tid-bit. Afterall it is something like 400 pages.

And let's not forget Lee's 'adjustments' to casey's laptop right off the bat.

[*Serenity*]

And let's not forget Lee's 'adjustments' to casey's laptop right off the bat.

Oh that was his Mom's laptop but she really didn't like it so it pretty much bacame Casey's. AND he didn't claim to adjust anything except getting the word out about Caylee, and then later deleting facebook, mysapce photos because the media was releasing photos. Oh the webs they weave. :angry:

Oh and Lee thinks Jessie did a bunch of stuff to Casey's accounts because for some reason Jessie knew about Casey's password:
timer55.

[bugout]

whoa. I just read to the last pages of GA depo. I didn't know that LE actually goes thru WP to see what words are used when and how often in a depo. Is this a sort of test that LE uses to see how often a subject may use words, as to whether or not they are lying? I've never seen this before. AND, there are photos attached to his depo that I've never seen before.
I don't want to freak anyone out but the first few are b and w and one photo, does appear to be duct tape on a skeletal face. You can see the structure of what would be mandible, jaw, ear area, and how the tape is setting, it is not lying out after removal.
Has anyone seen these photos before? Because I have not. One or two are a pair of pants as well, I think one may be caylee's they are almost rotten, the other maybe casey's am not sure? Not sure what I am looking at?
Pages 345 to the end of page 377 GA depo.
:eek:

[KTBarTheDoor]

That alleged smile in the court room will cost them 40 more bucks..
:tonguewag:

Oh at least..

[*Serenity*]

whoa. I just read to the last pages of GA depo. I didn't know that LE actually goes thru WP to see what words are used when and how often in a depo. Is this a sort of test that LE uses to see how often a subject may use words, as to whether or not they are lying? I've never seen this before. AND, there are photos attached to his depo that I've never seen before.
I don't want to freak anyone out but the first few are b and w and one photo, does appear to be duct tape on a skeletal face. You can see the structure of what would be mandible, jaw, ear area, and how the tape is setting, it is not lying out after removal.
Has anyone seen these photos before? Because I have not. One or two are a pair of pants as well, I think one may be caylee's they are almost rotten, the other maybe casey's am not sure? Not sure what I am looking at?
Pages 345 to the end of page 377 GA depo.
:eek:

Do you have the link handy? Please.. :P

[Pruddennce]

MO in a nutshell:

Cindy can remember every single solitary word Casey said to her during a 31 one day period about her travels, Zanny, the family, the sister, the mother, the friend of Zanny's, Jeff, ..EVERYTHING, EVERY TEENY WEENY DETAIL...

yet....

during her deposition, if it pertained to a conversation she was supposedly having with Casey on the phone about the car, about where Caylee was, SHE DOESNT REMEMBER.

she doesnt remember, she doesnt remember, she doesnt remember....

*I just dont remember names*....<----???????????????????

MY FAVORITE: she held off having words with Casey while Amy was in the car, because SHE WOULD NEVER do that to her kids...paraphrasing, humiliate them etc in front of their friends....

hmmmm....she called Ryan P several weeks before this 'event' to warn him Casey was a SOCIOPATH. guess she has her own interpretation of humiliation...

bottom line: LIAR

she is a psychopath, same as Casey.

havent read GA's shameful statements yet.

these people should have been locked up.

*Cindy doesnt remember SECRETING AWAY THE LANYARD*....she blamed LE....??????<-----and when she finds it she gives it to BAEZ?

also noteworthy: the focus was to find caylee but it was too much trouble to REMEMBER she had addresses and telephone #'s for Zanny....RIGHTO Cindy.....stellar lie right there....how transparent.....

sad, she thinks more about the wellbeing of her animals...gotta check on the animals first and foremost.....everybody accounted for? fed? water in the bowls....wonderful....

Caylee.....?

my thoughts on the lanyard: she probably knows in her heart that Casey strangled Caylee with it.

note to Cindy: I believe it as well. she probably strangled the life out of IT. 'it' being her latest descriptive adjective to describe the child formerly known as Caylee.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[KTBarTheDoor]

Casey started out with the lies immediately-- Caylee was sleeping and she didn't want to disturb her routine-- well she was right about Caylee sleeping, she just failed to add that she was sleeping forever dead.

Then she left Caylee with Zeanida and later after her release the 100lb Zeanida held her down at Blanchard Park and snatched her Caylee with a script. AND Lee still thinks after all this BS that Caylee is alive and Zeanida is Jessie Grund.

I just love how Lee explains to him all the different people that lied to him, however Casey is not really included in his low opinions. :thumbdown:

NO for some reason she's held high up on a pedestal with all the anthonys.. they all think they are above everyone else..including the law.

[bugout]

sorry page 336. That is very disturbing, I thought no photos were to be released? So why is this attached to GA depo, is it the duct tape, but it's not the gas can, it is back of her car, the stain outline, and 336, well that is not duct tape after it's removed it looks like it's before it was removed from a skull (to me)
Um. Has anyone else downloaded these?
Bug

[Kathlb]

And let's not forget Lee's 'adjustments' to casey's laptop right off the bat.

I really used to think that Lee was the most sane one in the bunch...not after his depo I don't. They all deserve each other.

[bugout]

Do you have the link handy? Please.. :P sure here you go:
http://www.wftv.com/news/21308788/detail.html

[jammies]

sorry page 336. That is very disturbing, I thought no photos were to be released? So why is this attached to GA depo, is it the duct tape, but it's not the gas can, it is back of her car, the stain outline, and 336, well that is not duct tape after it's removed it looks like it's before it was removed from a skull (to me)
Um. Has anyone else downloaded these?
Bug


I saw them but had no idea what they were. One looked like carpet to me.

[kakax]

And let's not forget Lee's 'adjustments' to casey's laptop right off the bat.

Did the state ask Lee about his time with Caseys computer? I won't be able to read the depos til I get home.

[*Serenity*]

I really used to think that Lee was the most sane one in the bunch...not after his depo I don't. They all deserve each other.

The other mental note I have about Lee's depo and lying...
He had time alone with Casey when she was out of jail while Tracy went out to smoke, and no other opportunity to have time alone with her. DID he forget toting her to Baez's office ALONE and their little quiet time alone to talk with no one present? GEEEE I wish I could have passed the State some notes and video clips.

[*Serenity*]

MO in a nutshell:

Cindy can remember every single solitary word Casey said to her during a 31 one day period about her travels, Zanny, the family, the sister, the mother, the friend of Zanny's, Jeff, ..EVERYTHING, EVERY TEENY WEENY DETAIL...

yet....

during her deposition, if it pertained to a conversation she was supposedly having with Casey on the phone about the car, about where Caylee was, SHE DOESNT REMEMBER.

she doesnt remember, she doesnt remember, she doesnt remember....

*I just dont remember names*....<----???????????????????

MY FAVORITE: she held off having words with Casey while Amy was in the car, because SHE WOULD NEVER do that to her kids...paraphrasing, humiliate them etc in front of their friends....

hmmmm....she called Ryan P several weeks before this 'event' to warn him Casey was a SOCIOPATH. guess she has her own interpretation of humiliation...

bottom line: LIAR

she is a psychopath, same as Casey.

havent read GA's shameful statements yet.

these people should have been locked up.

*Cindy doesnt remember SECRETING AWAY THE LANYARD*....she blamed LE....??????<-----and when she finds it she gives it to BAEZ?

also noteworthy: the focus was to find caylee but it was too much trouble to REMEMBER she had addresses and telephone #'s for Zanny....RIGHTO Cindy.....stellar lie right there....how transparent.....

sad, she thinks more about the wellbeing of her animals...gotta check on the animals first and foremost.....everybody accounted for? fed? water in the bowls....wonderful....

Caylee.....?

my thoughts on the lanyard: she probably knows in her heart that Casey strangled Caylee with it.

note to Cindy: I believe it as well. she probably strangled the life out of IT. 'it' being her latest descriptive adjective to describe the child formerly known as Caylee.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

Hi Pru-

Honestly- I swear I just do not for the life of me understand why these people are not behind bars for obstruction...!! From Day 1 and at every turn they have lied, held back evidence, and put up road blocks every way possible for any justice for little Caylee. Per George: he will sell his soul to the devil to get Casey out of jail. All of them sold out to the devil long ago... and I just don't get it and never will.

*S*

[Sun]

Whew... I finally finished part 2 of Cindy's depo. Strangely, it seems like there should be more to it. It ended in the middle of a question, but then a bunch of exhibits followed. hmmmm? Wonder if WFTV missed scanning a few pages (or if a few pages were missed when they received the docs)?

I'm left with a very odd feeling. Why do you suppose that Baez had Casey ask Cindy for her hair samples? And, also to collect several of Caylee's hairs if she could find them? What need would Baez have for hairs (or possibly DNA) from Cindy? (note this would have been during the time that Casey was out on bond, well before little Caylee's remains were found)

[BettyC]

Whew... I finally finished part 2 of Cindy's depo. Strangely, it seems like there should be more to it. It ended in the middle of a question, but then a bunch of exhibits followed. hmmmm? Wonder if WFTV missed scanning a few pages (or if a few pages were missed when they received the docs)?

I'm left with a very odd feeling. Why do you suppose that Baez had Casey ask Cindy for her hair samples? And, also to collect several of Caylee's hairs if she could find them? What need would Baez have for hairs (or possibly DNA) from Cindy? (note this would have been during the time that Casey was out on bond, well before little Caylee's remains were found)

Yes I remember noticing that it ended right in the middle of something too. Although by that point I didn't care. I was just happy to be at the end.

[Sun]

Yes I remember noticing that it ended right in the middle of something too. Although by that point I didn't care. I was just happy to be at the end.

Baez sure was freaking out about exhibits 22 and 23. The handwritten notes (one Cindy said looked like Casey's handwriting) and the other she didn't recognize. By Baez's reaction, I'd say "the other" was in the handwriting of someone from the Baez Firm.

Both exhibits appeared to reference items that might be sources for DNA or hair. One looked like a "found" list (in Casey's handwriting) and the other a list of suggestions of what to look for. ....Baez had a hissy fit because these two exhibits were to be included in Cindy's depo, and absolutely didn't want Cindy answer any questions about them.

[BettyC]

Baez sure was freaking out about exhibits 22 and 23. The handwritten notes (one Cindy said looked like Casey's handwriting) and the other she didn't recognize. By Baez's reaction, I'd say "the other" was in the handwriting of someone from the Baez Firm.

Both exhibits appeared to reference items that might be sources for DNA or hair. One looked like a "found" list (in Casey's handwriting) and the other a list of suggestions of what to look for. ....Baez had a hissy fit because these two exhibits were to be included in Cindy's depo, and absolutely didn't want Cindy answer any questions about them.

Yes that's what I said earlier. He was having a conniption about it. He really had to tell Cindy over and over to stop talking. So, of course, the prosecutors are now aware it's important somehow.

[BettyC]

sorry page 336. That is very disturbing, I thought no photos were to be released? So why is this attached to GA depo, is it the duct tape, but it's not the gas can, it is back of her car, the stain outline, and 336, well that is not duct tape after it's removed it looks like it's before it was removed from a skull (to me)
Um. Has anyone else downloaded these?
Bug

IMO it "could" be bugout. If so I'm sure it was a mistake.

It sure does point out how horrific it's going to be for the jury to see some of the photos they'll have to look at.

[*Serenity*]

Yes that's what I said earlier. He was having a conniption about it. He really had to tell Cindy over and over to stop talking. So, of course, the prosecutors are now aware it's important somehow.

Any clue what it was... ?
Casey's clues...!! ha ha ha

[Sun]

Yes that's what I said earlier. He was having a conniption about it. He really had to tell Cindy over and over to stop talking. So, of course, the prosecutors are now aware it's important somehow.

I can't think of too many reasons why Baez would want hair or DNA from Cindy or Caylee, in Aug/Sept/Oct 2008.

[BettyC]

Any clue what it was... ?
Casey's clues...!! ha ha ha

I tried to lighten it and to reverse the color but it didn't help. Once bugout mentioned it could be tape wrapped around a mouth, I could actually see that.

BUT you have to imagine what George's reaction would have been if that's what the photo really was, so it probably wasn't that.

[Sun]

Yes I remember noticing that it ended right in the middle of something too. Although by that point I didn't care. I was just happy to be at the end.

Bingo!!!! WFTV has found the missing pages, and they are now available on the Part 2 link. At least instead of 377 pages it's now 476. So, Betty... you aren't really at the end yet!

[*Serenity*]

I tried to lighten it and to reverse the color but it didn't help. Once bugout mentioned it could be tape wrapped around a mouth, I could actually see that.

BUT you have to imagine what George's reaction would have been if that's what the photo really was, so it probably wasn't that.

Maybe Baez already revealed the pictures to the family so they would be well prepared for the depos, and any future court hearings.
Just so George wouldn't have to excuse himself to throw up like the photos of Casey-- whatever those were and I doubt we ever get to see them. lol Prolly don't want to either... lol

[BettyC]

Bingo!!!! WFTV has found the missing pages, and they are now available on the Part 2 link. At least instead of 377 pages it's now 476. So, Betty... you aren't really at the end yet!

Noooooooooo.

Thanks alot Sun !

(eta: Going to go get it overwith.)

[Sun]

Noooooooooo.

Thanks alot Sun !

(eta: Going to go get it overwith.)

Baez is throwing an even bigger hissy fit!!!!! Doesn't want Cindy to say anything about the pictures/videos that she observed Casey removing from the home!

[5swab5]

I can't think of too many reasons why Baez would want hair or DNA from Cindy or Caylee, in Aug/Sept/Oct 2008.

Baez just probably wanted "different" ones.
Good Grief, the ALL of them couldn't decided on the ingredients of a 12 egg omelet. MOO

[BettyC]

Baez is throwing an even bigger hissy fit!!!!! Doesn't want Cindy to say anything about the pictures/videos that she observed Casey removing from the home!

I don't know if this is new or I missed it before. Page 356 and 357. She's talking about wanting her laptop back.

She said she had to get a new laptop because her desktop died.

She quickly adds that the laptop is for the foundation ! LOLOL

(Which means free to her.)

[Sun]

I don't know if this is new or I missed it before. Page 356 and 357. She's talking about wanting her laptop back.

She said she had to get a new laptop because her desktop died.

She quickly adds that the laptop is for the foundation ! LOLOL

(Which means free to her.)

The missing pages started at around 318 I think..... did you go back that far?

Cindy says that George put the duct tape on the gas can!!!!

[*Serenity*]

Baez is throwing an even bigger hissy fit!!!!! Doesn't want Cindy to say anything about the pictures/videos that she observed Casey removing from the home!

Possibly the ones Baez is going to sell in order to pay himself for the defense? Was this during her time out of jail and all those visits to see Baez? I am still going with they have a plan to sell a lot of this stuff, or at least try to get the $$$$.

[BettyC]

The missing pages started at around 318 I think..... did you go back that far?

Cindy says that George put the duct tape on the gas can!!!!

Nooo I only went 100 pages back.

[*Serenity*]

The missing pages started at around 318 I think..... did you go back that far?

Cindy says that George put the duct tape on the gas can!!!!

Did they ask her why George put duct tape on the gas can?
That seems so odd to me for some reason--

[5swab5]

The missing pages started at around 318 I think..... did you go back that far?

Cindy says that George put the duct tape on the gas can!!!!

Can't get any better than that! MOO

[Sun]

Around pages 340 or so, I think that Cindy admits to having bought a laundry bag (the round style), sometime around Caylees 2nd birthday.

[BettyC]

Around pages 340 or so, I think that Cindy admits to having bought a laundry bag (the round style), sometime around Caylees 2nd birthday.

Ok, I went to the end, now I'm going back to where you said the new part starts.

[5swab5]

In-between reading, posting and spitting up in my mouth....

This is bad, bad, real bad.

Actually, the collateral damage in this case goes MUCH further than the Anthonys.

Baez may very well have had a reasonable career, were it not for Casey. LOTS of others will try and jump on the Anthony "bandwagon" before this is over too. How many times can you divide up "future proceeds"? (what IS half of nothing?)

Remember Geragos? Worked for Scott Peterson? He was a regular on late-night TV..........UNTIL.

Hey, at least Scott's parents HAD some dough. This game that Baez is playing amounts to professional suicide.

Win-Lose-Draw! I will put nothing past him. MO Only.

[BettyC]

Ok, I'm finished with Cindy's now.

It's just amazing to me that she keeps her composure when talking about Cayle. Only once did she break down as far as I saw.

I just loved the way Jose pipes in nearly at the end!! and says he wanted to tell Cindy that she could say "I don't know" or I don't remember. Little late there Jose.

That's it for me. HAGN e1.

[Sun]

Ok, I went to the end, now I'm going back to where you said the new part starts.

Shucks, I'm only up to 375.

[kakax]

Yes that's what I said earlier. He was having a conniption about it. He really had to tell Cindy over and over to stop talking. So, of course, the prosecutors are now aware it's important somehow.

First wanted say Pru, your post makes SO much sense. Agreed with every word of it.

I can't wait to read what you all are talking about. We have no clue or reference what these exibits were?

[Sun]

First wanted say Pru, your post makes SO much sense. Agreed with every word of it.

I can't wait to read what you all are talking about. We have no clue or reference what these exibits were?

All the exhibits are pictured at the end of Cindy's part 2. Even the ones that Baez had a fit over.

[kakax]

Did they ask her why George put duct tape on the gas can?
That seems so odd to me for some reason--

George explained that some cap was missing and he used duct tap to cover that part of the can. He also said he didn't put the Henkle brand tape on there. (Suggesting someone else did). He said it was too sloppily done to be his work.

[*Serenity*]

:thumbsup: I love it when Lyons inquires about how much longer because she has a hungry child in her office..... AND DB tells her to go ahead go she wasn't there on Monday at all, Baez was. Then Lyon is like: what is that suppose to mean? LMAO

Later a question is brought up about LB and Cindy talking about immunity... LB doesn't hold back now does she-- she states it was on the record and then goes through another spill with Cindy. I don't see how they don't want to just rip their own hair out talking to Cindy.

[kakax]

What else is that dipstick going to say? The tape was not anywhere near the cap of the gas can. It was on the top side. Good Lord, George, if you are going to lie, do it well or STFU. You are digging yourself a deeper grave than you already have. I can't wait for the day that Cindy and George are indited for obstructing.

He may have said vent cap or something like that. I read it in his depo but I can't look at it right now. Its on my computer at my house. Is there a vent on gas cans? I don't know much about gas cans. Never even held one I don't think.

[sunbunny]

whoa. I just read to the last pages of GA depo. I didn't know that LE actually goes thru WP to see what words are used when and how often in a depo. Is this a sort of test that LE uses to see how often a subject may use words, as to whether or not they are lying? I've never seen this before. *snipped!*

FWIW... there is usually a "word count" thing at the end of the deposition transcripts, at least in the law office i work in. it is usually only attached to the "condensed transcript," however. a "condensed transcript" is basically where there are 4 pages of transcript on each page, both sides of the paper. the word count thing does make it easier for the lawyers (or LE, imo) to easily locate "key words" when needed. sheesh... i hope this response made SOME kind of sense. :blink:

[charmin 66]

Whew... I finally finished part 2 of Cindy's depo. Strangely, it seems like there should be more to it. It ended in the middle of a question, but then a bunch of exhibits followed. hmmmm? Wonder if WFTV missed scanning a few pages (or if a few pages were missed when they received the docs)?

I'm left with a very odd feeling. Why do you suppose that Baez had Casey ask Cindy for her hair samples? And, also to collect several of Caylee's hairs if she could find them? What need would Baez have for hairs (or possibly DNA) from Cindy? (note this would have been during the time that Casey was out on bond, well before little Caylee's remains were found)

No really? Was this before or after Henry Lee searched the car?

[5swab5]

FWIW... there is usually a "word count" thing at the end of the deposition transcripts, at least in the law office i work in. it is usually only attached to the "condensed transcript," however. a "condensed transcript" is basically where there are 4 pages of transcript on each page, both sides of the paper. the word count thing does make it easier for the lawyers (or LE, imo) to easily locate "key words" when needed. sheesh... i hope this response made SOME kind of sense. :blink:

:seeya:

Hi Sunbunny!

Thank you! Never heard it explained that way. Transcripts are miserable...IMO. Quadruple spacing...for what? Hours of loading PDFs?

Question is, when they display the armpit high ream of paperwork in this case, are they doing it that way? My guess would be no? TIA.
Swabby

Poor trees. Casey isn't worth one sapling. IMO

[sunbunny]

:seeya:

Hi Sunbunny!

Thank you! Never heard it explained that way. Transcripts are miserable...IMO. Quadruple spacing...for what? Hours of loading PDFs?

Question is, when they display the armpit high ream of paperwork in this case, are they doing it that way? My guess would be no? TIA.
Swabby

Poor trees. Casey isn't worth one. IMO

:seeya: from what *I* have ascertained in my 20+ years of legal secretary-ism, the transcripts are basically double-spaced for ease of reading and referencing (the numbered pleading lines on the left margin). Single-spaced stuff makes your eyes go :blink:, IMO. unfortunately, depo transcripts introduced in trial are NOT the condensed copies, and more times than not, that is why you see lawyers dragging suitcases of paperwork behind them! it's ridic, but.....

for the record.. in my office, we get "e-transcripts" emailed to us. but the court reporter still has to send us hard copies "SEALED" for court-use only. so, we kinda save half the trees!

[*Serenity*]

It is my take that the videos/photos Casey was taking from the home to Baez's office -- that question to Cindy is what sent Baez into orbit...geeze he did not want any of that on the record and even told Cindy to zip it...!! He stated this information was sealed.... could this be when they went in camera for how Baez was getting paid????
Man.. he did not want that to be discussed .... nice little tit-4tat going on that room over that one.... LOL LOL

[Postergeist]

bringing Bala's post over from closed thread- (late good evening all!)

Bala
Registered User Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 593

What they should do is put down large pictures of Caylee's remains. Maybe starring at them for a while will shake their memory and help them recall what Casey did to Caylee. Maybe a little reality will shake George up enough to tell the truth.


Bala- you just gave me a thought that I think the State should use when the case goes to trial.

You mention putting down large pictures-

I hope that for effect and for the reality of how Caylee ended up- that they do just that, with photos and with replicas.

-Have a car trunk in the court room with the plastic bags filled with the approx. weight Caylee was at the time of her death

-using George's words from his depo saying he heard the maggots in the trunk

There was a a pizza box and there was maggots inside of the box -- I mean, in that bag. I remember specifically because they were making a cracking sound, like hamburger on a skillet. pg. 221-222 on pdf file

-then see if an audio tape could be played that would be similar to that sound

-Later, have replicas of a child's size skull, leg and arm bones, etc. placed on the floor to show how her remains had been scattered from the laundry and garbage bags also placed on the floor

-while playing the 911 calls of Krunk reporting seeing a child's skull with duct tape

-while having a split screen up showing on this day- we believe Caylee was dead and on that day here is Casey seen doing_____texting this____photographed attending____

-and go thru the actions and activities of Casey's 31 days while a picture of the garbage bags stays on the left- maybe switching it with pictures from the swampy wooded lot

to show-

Caylee's Reality for Each Day vs. Casey's Reality for Each Day

imo

[Lexi]

Does anybody here wonder when this family is ever going to seek mental health counseling? None of them (even with DNA proof and the word of the Florida medical examiner) feel like they can trust that Caylee is dead???? Brad needs to find them a therapist, quickly!

[Postergeist]

Oh that was his Mom's laptop but she really didn't like it so it pretty much bacame Casey's. AND he didn't claim to adjust anything except getting the word out about Caylee, and then later deleting facebook, mysapce photos because the media was releasing photos. Oh the webs they weave. :angry:

Oh and Lee thinks Jessie did a bunch of stuff to Casey's accounts because for some reason Jessie knew about Casey's password:
timer55.

Lee's and Cindy's depos I haven't tackled yet- was gone from the house for the evening and just finished up on the last few pages of George's.

But I've read all the posts of those that did and was already shaking my head, which has been a regular habit when it comes to the Anthony family for the past 15 months. :mad: imo

Quite a few things stuck out with what George said, some I posted about earlier- the later pages had him saying-

"I think my family has been pretty good about controlling our temperament and stuff" pg. 312


Discussing his investigation of a homicide back in Ohio and how it took a year to arrest the man responsible he states

“..the stuff that we did 20 some odd years ago is not what it is today. I mean, today it’s really awesome".


(huh, so does this mean he doesn’t think like Cindy and Baez, that it’s all junk science?!)


He also does not accept that the remains on Suburban are the remains of Caylee pg 330

Q- But is there any other reason why you don’t accept that as Caylee?
A- Because I just can’t believe that Caylee is gone. That’s from a grandfather’s point of view and I just don’t.

The selling his soul really got me as well....<shudder>

imo

[KTBarTheDoor]

bringing Bala's post over from closed thread- (late good evening all!)



Bala- you just gave me a thought that I think the State should use when the case goes to trial.

You mention putting down large pictures-

I hope that for effect and for the reality of how Caylee ended up- that they do just that, with photos and with replicas.

-Have a car trunk in the court room with the plastic bags filled with the approx. weight Caylee was at the time of her death

-using George's words from his depo saying he heard the maggots in the trunk

There was a a pizza box and there was maggots inside of the box -- I mean, in that bag. I remember specifically because they were making a cracking sound, like hamburger on a skillet. pg. 221-222 on pdf file

-then see if an audio tape could be played that would be similar to that sound

-Later, have replicas of a child's size skull, leg and arm bones, etc. placed on the floor to show how her remains had been scattered from the laundry and garbage bags also placed on the floor

-while playing the 911 calls of Krunk reporting seeing a child's skull with duct tape

-while having a split screen up showing on this day- we believe Caylee was dead and on that day here is Casey seen doing_____texting this____photographed attending____

-and go thru the actions and activities of Casey's 31 days while a picture of the garbage bags stays on the left- maybe switching it with pictures from the swampy wooded lot

to show-

Caylee's Reality for Each Day vs. Casey's Reality for Each Day

imo

Thats a great idea like the DA'S did in diane downs , when they made that replica of her car and brought it in the court room.

[Postergeist]

Does anybody here wonder when this family is ever going to seek mental health counseling? None of them (even with DNA proof and the word of the Florida medical examiner) feel like they can trust that Caylee is dead???? Brad needs to find them a therapist, quickly!

somehow Lexi, if there was a behavioral program for Truth Acceptance, none would be takers from that particular Orlando family.

imo

[Postergeist]

Thats a great idea like the DA'S did in diane downs , when they made that replica of her car and brought it in the court room.

ah good to know KT that it has been used before, thx- I didn't follow the DD case.

What we've all followed and read and heard about this case has impacted us- the State needs to make the fullest impact with the jurors to ensure tha Caylee will have justice.

imo

[Lexi]

somehow Lexi, if there was a behavioral program for Truth Acceptance, none would be takers from that particular Orlando family.

imo

HA! Truth? What the heck is truth? (said by any Anthony)!

[*Serenity*]

Does anybody here wonder when this family is ever going to seek mental health counseling? None of them (even with DNA proof and the word of the Florida medical examiner) feel like they can trust that Caylee is dead???? Brad needs to find them a therapist, quickly!

Cindy stated in her depo that she has been to counseling after Caylee was found. Again- Cindy says... ! :rolleyes: