Caylee 10/16

[*Serenity*]

:angry:


I can't believe I actually read the entire deposition for Lee Anthony.
He accuses TonE of lying to him that first night, then decides to play everyone against each other, (Ricardo-Jessie-TonE) and then states what
a looney Amy is and a drug addict that uses heroin! AND to this day he thinks Jessie is Zenaida and that Caylee is NOT really dead.
He believes Caylee is alive!!

ALSO he was the f-word (in depo) pizzed about his Mother telling him Dom was in the woods searching for Caylee. Lee went off about this because
that was proving they were looking a DEAD Caylee.

Oh yea.. just love his excuse for the bat phones. AND since Casey is still NOT talking he thinks she is covering for the fear of the family's safety that Jessie is responsible.

Why oh why-- did I punish my blood pressure by reading his lies...???

[Lapis]

Thanks Lapis, I guess we can expect another motion. >sigh<

Maybe...maybe not. The court seemed to indicate that Casey would have to swear to the facts not in dispute (and presumedly provide sworn testimony of others). They may not wish to go this route. They have filed the motion and made a record. They may just use this for an appeal later. JMO

[Ellie]

So did anyone get anything really new out of the doc dump yesterday? I'm slowly making my way through George's interview but haven't learned anything new at all.

[PrincessR]

:angry:


I can't believe I actually read the entire deposition for Lee Anthony.
He accuses TonE of lying to him that first night, then decides to play everyone against each other, (Ricardo-Jessie-TonE) and then states what
a looney Amy is and a drug addict that uses heroin! AND to this day he thinks Jessie is Zenaida and that Caylee is NOT really dead.
He believes Caylee is alive!!

ALSO he was the f-word (in depo) pizzed about his Mother telling him Dom was in the woods searching for Caylee. Lee went off about this because
that was proving they were looking a DEAD Caylee.

Oh yea.. just love his excuse for the bat phones. AND since Casey is still NOT talking he thinks she is covering for the fear of the family's safety that Jessie is responsible.

Why oh why-- did I punish my blood pressure by reading his lies...???










Well I am reading Cindys and her children never needing punishment they were good and that Caylee could speak full paragraphs at two. Also that Casey BORROWED money from her.

[Sun]

Has anyone learned as to why the State filed these latest three depositions (Cindy, George & Lee) with the court at this time?

[*Serenity*]

I suppose he will need to roll up those sleeves and get to work finding somebody, or something. Hopefully this will put a damper on his holidays. :tongueside:

Baez hasn't taken anything serious in this case thusfar, so I doubt he starts working on it anytime soon....!! lol
He still hasn't start his depositions and research from Tim's searchers.
He is all about delay - delay- delay- and not working on this case, unless of course he can make another appearance in front of the cameras. Baez will have great holidays, and not miss any sleep over
his 'girl'... she is locked up and keeps him going for 'free' advertising.

Gotta love it that he is using her like she has used so many others!!
She believes him- that he is really working hard to get her off... :)

[neid_77]

:angry:


I can't believe I actually read the entire deposition for Lee Anthony.
He accuses TonE of lying to him that first night, then decides to play everyone against each other, (Ricardo-Jessie-TonE) and then states what
a looney Amy is and a drug addict that uses heroin! AND to this day he thinks Jessie is Zenaida and that Caylee is NOT really dead.
He believes Caylee is alive!!

ALSO he was the f-word (in depo) pizzed about his Mother telling him Dom was in the woods searching for Caylee. Lee went off about this because
that was proving they were looking a DEAD Caylee.

Oh yea.. just love his excuse for the bat phones. AND since Casey is still NOT talking he thinks she is covering for the fear of the family's safety that Jessie is responsible.

Why oh why-- did I punish my blood pressure by reading his lies...???










i am getting to the thought that the prosecutors will introduce the whole anthony lying family as hostile witnesses don't see anyway around it....they are all fowl lying scum and now they have a book deal on the table BEFORE everything has been settled at her trial the book title should be called "LIES, AND HOW TO DISGRACE YOUR GRANDAUGHTER FOR MONEY":cursing::cursing:

[Lapis]

Do you believe whoever becomes Casey's appellate attorney would use Baez & Co.'s legally flawed motion in an appeal?

The argument would be that the court erred in its determination that the motion was legally flawed. Remember the court ruled that the reliance on the discovery documents was not enough to carry the day. The argument would be similar to that made today. Casey cannot swear to facts not in her personal knowledge. She cannot swear to what the ME found for example. On appeal, the argument would be that they should have been allowed to rely on the discovery documents provided by the prosecution. That the court should have accepted those "facts" as true and ruled on the merits.

Additionally, they could argue that the presentation of a legally flawed motion was ineffective assistance of counsel. JMO

[BettyC]

So did anyone get anything really new out of the doc dump yesterday? I'm slowly making my way through George's interview but haven't learned anything new at all.

Hi Ellie - I've only completed Cindy's so far.

* She now says the smell in the car wasn't so much of a concern to her.

* She now admits the battery was removed so that Casey didn't come home and take the car back.

* She admits they got $20,000 for the CBS show airing tomorrow night.

* She was on short term disability but now is on a 2 yr long-term disability and collects rent from Lee. This is how she's paying the bills.

* She believes Ricardo is gay or bi-sexual. (JP too apparently.)

* The "people being watched" that George referred to were Amy, Ricardo, Tony, etc.


That's all I can remember right now.

[msgatorslayer]

So did anyone get anything really new out of the doc dump yesterday? I'm slowly making my way through George's interview but haven't learned anything new at all.

I'm almost done with Cindy's. She doesn't give me a headache when I read her, lol.

Learned a couple of new things, I've posted about it, but it's getting lost cause of the hearing. I guess the biggest thing, was that Cindy admits Casey 'borrowed' a CC and ran up 5k.:rolleyes:

[BettyC]

Has anyone learned as to why the State filed these latest three depositions (Cindy, George & Lee) with the court at this time?

and why they only seem to be on WFTV's site? (I downloaded them to my computer in case they disappear.)

[Bala]

I am reading George's depo with the State. http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html


page 116 beginning on line 15

George: ....I know when Cindy and I separated, the one thing she said was: If you want to leave that's fine. But Casey and Caylee are always going to stay. You know if I wanted to get up and just go, you know, that was my decision. But, you know, she just knew that where Casey was at and where Caylee was at was their refuge, their home. Even thought it was still my home, but she just says: they'll just stay here with me. She says: Three women can function together, you know, without having a man around; which they proved that. They can function pretty well without me, so --

IOW, George it will be Cindy/Casey's way or there is the door.

jmo
If they were functioning so well why is Caylee dead and her mother sitting in jail?

[KTBarTheDoor]

Meanwhile, the defense was ordered Friday to turn over, by February 1, any evidence it might have to back up its claim that someone else placed Caylee's body in the woods last year (motion | defense response).

"Is there gonna be a bombshell on February 1st,” WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked Casey’s attorney, Jose Baez.

“There will be something. There definitely will be something,” Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html

LOL yes JOY WRAY......lol.. He has time to figure out what he will give them..lol
there will be something all right if she's not baker acted by then again..

[msgatorslayer]

Lee still believes Caylee is alive? :lol:

Do you know what page that morsel is on? TIA

[jammies]

Hi Ellie - I've only completed Cindy's so far.

* She now says the smell in the car wasn't so much of a concern to her.

* She now admits the battery was removed so that Casey didn't come home and take the car back.

* She admits they got $20,000 for the CBS show airing tomorrow night.

* She was on short term disability but now is on a 2 yr long-term disability and collects rent from Lee. This is how she's paying the bills.

* She believes Ricardo is gay or bi-sexual. (JP too apparently.)

* The "people being watched" that George referred to were Amy, Ricardo, Tony, etc.


That's all I can remember right now.


The "watching" was done by GEORGE!! lol He was following them around.

[jammies]

Lee still believes Caylee is alive? :lol:

Do you know what page that morsel is on? TIA

I just finished, gator. I think it's more towards the end.

Lee believes Jesse is to blame for all of this. His "gut" feeling. :rolleyes:

[KTBarTheDoor]

Did i hear right in last murder case that baez tried he also tried this same crap and the judge would not let the witness testify. so he trying the same crap in this trial..

BTW it was a 3 year old too if I heard that correctly..

[BettyC]

The "watching" was done by GEORGE!! lol He was following them around.

and driving by their apartments. woooooooo

[Xmygrits]

Well I am reading Cindys and her children never needing punishment they were good and that Caylee could speak full paragraphs at two. Also that Casey BORROWED money from her.

Well if Casey "borrowed" the money, under normal circumstance Cindy would have had charges brought against her for calling 911 with false information. On her call she claims she needed to bring "someone" in to be arrested on theft charges.

[need2no]

Hi Ellie - I've only completed Cindy's so far.

* She now says the smell in the car wasn't so much of a concern to her.

* She now admits the battery was removed so that Casey didn't come home and take the car back.

* She admits they got $20,000 for the CBS show airing tomorrow night.

* She was on short term disability but now is on a 2 yr long-term disability and collects rent from Lee. This is how she's paying the bills.

* She believes Ricardo is gay or bi-sexual. (JP too apparently.)

* The "people being watched" that George referred to were Amy, Ricardo, Tony, etc.


That's all I can remember right now.

IIRC from reading late last night, Cindy said she is under FMLA with Gentivia. This can't be true since FMLA is only for 12 weeks. Besides, we all know she has no plans to return to work now that she has a new and lucrative 'career'. But WTH, not much that she spews is the truth.

[Bala]

:angry:


I can't believe I actually read the entire deposition for Lee Anthony.
He accuses TonE of lying to him that first night, then decides to play everyone against each other, (Ricardo-Jessie-TonE) and then states what
a looney Amy is and a drug addict that uses heroin! AND to this day he thinks Jessie is Zenaida and that Caylee is NOT really dead.
He believes Caylee is alive!!

ALSO he was the f-word (in depo) pizzed about his Mother telling him Dom was in the woods searching for Caylee. Lee went off about this because
that was proving they were looking a DEAD Caylee.

Oh yea.. just love his excuse for the bat phones. AND since Casey is still NOT talking he thinks she is covering for the fear of the family's safety that Jessie is responsible.

Why oh why-- did I punish my blood pressure by reading his lies...???









I believe this is the reason that his lawyer walked. He unlike Conway has a conscience and wants nothing to do with the perjuring Anthony's.

[denjet]

I'm almost done with Cindy's. She doesn't give me a headache when I read her, lol.

Learned a couple of new things, I've posted about it, but it's getting lost cause of the hearing. I guess the biggest thing, was that Cindy admits Casey 'borrowed' a CC and ran up 5k.:rolleyes:

ya, and no word in her depo about the $14 K on a credit card KC took out in George's name without him knowing ... Cindy was asked about the judgement against them from the credit card company at the bond hearing ... she said she didn't know anything about it, she wasn't aware of it ... someone's going after you for $14K and you don't know anything about it ?????

[desmom]

The "watching" was done by GEORGE!! lol He was following them around.

"Watching" as in "tailing" like in the night time cop shows? :lol: Like he would not stand out in a crowd.

[Xmygrits]

and driving by their apartments. woooooooo

Was he in incognito? Pulling around a missing Caylee billboard? Bet nobody had a clue they were "being watched" by George.

[KTBarTheDoor]

The "watching" was done by GEORGE!! lol He was following them around.

LOL was that when Caylee was supposed to be moved 9 different times.:rolleyes:

[denjet]

I just finished, gator. I think it's more towards the end.

Lee believes Jesse is to blame for all of this. His "gut" feeling. :rolleyes:

mmmmm, but Jesse's not a "stranger" ! Neither is Ricardo, Amy, Tony, etc., etc.

[msgatorslayer]

I just finished, gator. I think it's more towards the end.

Lee believes Jesse is to blame for all of this. His "gut" feeling. :rolleyes:

Thanks! Yeah, Cindy still believes something other than what the state is saying. Though, it's hard to read between her lies.

She bounces back and forth between Casey's friends being suspect, and then when asked about all these 'missing people' that are tied to Zanny, she and her team are still working on finding them. But in a years time, they've had no real luck, lmao.

[KatieLady]

Marinade Dave...in comments

says he has a story to tell :rolleyes:

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/a-great-day-for-courting/#comments

[msgatorslayer]

"Watching" as in "tailing" like in the night time cop shows? :lol: Like he would not stand out in a crowd.

He was unda-cova, with his secret bat phone.!!:laugh:

[KTBarTheDoor]

I swear I heard Ford say that Baez' client in the above case is appealing due to ineffective counsel.

I dont know i didn't get to hear all of it the dang phone started ringing then dog started barking.....ugh.. but didnt that guy take a plea? if he took a plea can he appeal?

[Sun]

Q. What time did she go to bed that evening (June 15th), if you recall?

A. Oh, man. We probably stayed up and watched Desperate Housewives together. I tucked the girls in and I stayed in Casey's room and watched that with them. So probably maybe 10:00 or so.

Q. Now, earlier we talked about whether or not Caylee had a schedule. Did she have a bedtime?

A. Yes.

Q. What was it?

A. Caylee usually went down somewhere betwen 8:30 and 9:30.

Q. Okay.

A. And Caylee would have already been sleeping. But a lot of times I would join them because Caylee slept in Casey's bed. And we would just stay up and watch TV and Caylee would be there sleeping and we -- she'd be between us.

Q. All right. Did Caylee sleep with Casey a lot?

A. Every night.

Q. Okay.

A. She didn't sleep in her bed during the night, just during the day, for a nap once in a while. But it's usually on Casey's bed.

(typos are all mine)

[Bala]

LOL was that when Caylee was supposed to be moved 9 different times.:rolleyes:

So George saw Amy moving Caylee and was helpless to stop her. OK I believe you George.

[Pierre]

Meanwhile, the defense was ordered Friday to turn over, by February 1, any evidence it might have to back up its claim that someone else placed Caylee's body in the woods last year (motion | defense response).

"Is there gonna be a bombshell on February 1st,” WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked Casey’s attorney, Jose Baez.

“There will be something. There definitely will be something,” Baez said.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html
Oh boy! Baez is going to be a bus driver.

[KTBarTheDoor]

He was unda-cova, with his secret bat phone.!!:laugh:

yes love that.. wonder where they parked the bat moblie.:shrug:
of maybe they had an invisimoblie like the invisinanny..

[denjet]

Judge Strickland's Order
(about dismissing charges)
Read the Order:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21316613/detail.html

That was fast!

"Being duly advised in the premises, the State's Motion to Strike Defendant's Motion to dismiss Counts I and II of the indictment against Casey Marie Anthony IS GRANTED"

[*Serenity*]

I believe this is the reason that his lawyer walked. He unlike Conway has a conscience and wants nothing to do with the perjuring Anthony's.

He grabbed a note pad that first night law enforcement showed up after the 911 call... he was in the room next to Casey's where he could hear everything... and then ends up in the garage alone with Casey.
They had some time to get a few things under wraps there....!!

He even has the nerve to use the terminology 'suspects' or person of interest... his personal investigation along with Dom...!!!

[need2no]

Jose Baez, attorney for Casey Anthony called defective lawyer by former client


Diaz claims he lost his case and was convicted of manslaughter and child abuse because of Baez’ trial strategy and performance, including his decision not to disclose pertinent evidence to prosecutors. Diaz insists this prevented the jurors from viewing an important defense video.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m3d28-Jose-Baez-attorney-for-Casey-Anthony-called-defective-lawyer-by-former-client

[msgatorslayer]

yes love that.. wonder where they parked the bat moblie.:shrug:
of maybe they had an invisimoblie like the invisinanny..

That black SUV that Jose rented, with the broken mirrors?:biggrin:

[Bala]

Q. What time did she go to bed that evening (June 15th), if you recall?

A. Oh, man. We probably stayed up and watched Desperate Housewives together. I tucked the girls in and I stayed in Casey's room and watched that with them. So probably maybe 10:00 or so.

Q. Now, earlier we talked about whether or not Caylee had a schedule. Did she have a bedtime?

A. Yes.

Q. What was it?

A. Caylee usually went down somewhere betwen 8:30 and 9:30.

Q. Okay.

A. And Caylee would have already been sleeping. But a lot of times I would join them because Caylee slept in Casey's bed. And we would just stay up and watch TV and Caylee would be there sleeping and we -- she'd be between us.

Q. All right. Did Caylee sleep with Casey a lot?

A. Every night.

Q. Okay.

A. She didn't sleep in her bed during the night, just during the day, for a nap once in a while. But it's usually on Casey's bed.

(typos are all mine)
So if we believe Cindy after coming home from visiting her sick father and finding out Casey was stealing from him she just hopped into bed with her and watched desperate house wives. I know I believe her doesn't everyone else?

[KTBarTheDoor]

IMO they got those prepaid phones so no one could get anything from them. No records. so when cindy was calling dc and telling him where to look no records.. lee got 4 phones for cindy george and lee who had other one? casey while she was out? then who has it now? dc?

[msgatorslayer]

IMO they got those prepaid phones so no one could get anything from them. No records. so when cindy was calling dc and telling him where to look no records.. lee got 4 phones for cindy george and lee who had other one? casey while she was out? then who has it now? dc?

Cindy makes no bones about it, they were worried about their house and phones being tapped.

So much so that she couldn't ask Casey anything about what had happened. But she did manage to ask her if there was 'an accident'.

RIGHT!!:sneaky:

[jammies]

"Watching" as in "tailing" like in the night time cop shows? :lol: Like he would not stand out in a crowd.


All clowns. Each of them doing their little investigations. If you believe their depo's it seems none of them shared info. It almost seems like they never even SPOKE to eachother. Or so they want us to believe.

[denjet]

This afternoon, the judge ruled that he won't hear the defense's current request to dismiss the first-degree murder and aggravated child abuse charges. The state claimed the request was legally insufficient and the judge agreed.
:thumbup:

So basically, the defense lost everything today except for the autopsy photo ones but Strickland is applying new requirements ....

[desmom]

Another version of the events of June 16 per George: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

page 150 line 11:

I think Caylee got up probably around 7:30, eight o'clock that morning. I know she saw Cindy just before she left. And I know that her and I went out and gave her some cereal, some juice and some more coffee and ...

Didn't Cindy say she did not see Caylee before she left for work on June 16?

[kakax]

Marinade Dave...in comments

says he has a story to tell :rolleyes:

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/a-great-day-for-courting/#comments

Double :rolleyes::rolleyes: I am not ready to start following another Murt.

[jammies]

IMO they got those prepaid phones so no one could get anything from them. No records. so when cindy was calling dc and telling him where to look no records.. lee got 4 phones for cindy george and lee who had other one? casey while she was out? then who has it now? dc?


Yes, the 4th was for Casey. Only to be used in EMERGENCIES. Lee "says" that Casey's phone was given to Jose. Lee also says he threw his out and his mother lost hers. uh huh.

[*Serenity*]

IMO they got those prepaid phones so no one could get anything from them. No records. so when cindy was calling dc and telling him where to look no records.. lee got 4 phones for cindy george and lee who had other one? casey while she was out? then who has it now? dc?

According to Lee -- Casey's bat phone went to Jose in a a box along with her notebooks and law books that she had been taking back and forth to his office. So- Jose has the other mystery bat phone...and you know he has used it to keep things hidden!!

[Sun]

ya, and no word in her depo about the $14 K on a credit card KC took out in George's name without him knowing ... Cindy was asked about the judgement against them from the credit card company at the bond hearing ... she said she didn't know anything about it, she wasn't aware of it ... someone's going after you for $14K and you don't know anything about it ?????

I wish that LDB has specifically asked Cindy if she knew that George still has a Pending Civil Case in regards to a CC issue.

[*Serenity*]

Yes, the 4th was for Casey. Only to be used in EMERGENCIES. Lee "says" that Casey's phone was given to Jose. Lee also says he threw his out and his mother lost hers. uh huh.

AND law enforcement has George's.

[jammies]

AND law enforcement has George's.


oh, yeah!!

[Barbara fl.]

I ended up watching it on tru tv, my computer kept shutting down for no reason...

Ashley Bansfield had the nerve to say that because Casey is so beautiful it will be hard for any jury to sentence her to the DP....Where is Casey beautiful? She looked like a witch today...an evil witch....I never thought she was beautiful....her ears are bigger then her face...


Scott Peterson was handsome and he is on death row....Casey wont have any problem joining him as well....

[need2no]

Another version of the events of June 16 per George: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

page 150 line 11:

I think Caylee got up probably around 7:30, eight o'clock that morning. I know she saw Cindy just before she left. And I know that her and I went out and gave her some cereal, some juice and some more coffee and ...

Didn't Cindy say she did not see Caylee before she left for work on June 16?


Yes, she HEARD them sleeping before she left for work.

Also in Cindy's depo she said Caylee usually got her own breakfast. :angry:

[denjet]

Cindy makes no bones about it, they were worried about their house and phones being tapped.

So much so that she couldn't ask Casey anything about what had happened. But she did manage to ask her if there was 'an accident'.

RIGHT!!:sneaky:

and who did they think were bugging the house ... Zanny the Nanny? ... why didn't they WANT LE to use any method possible to investigate Caylee's disappearance ?? Innocent people don't behave this way, they just don't ...

[*Serenity*]

All clowns. Each of them doing their little investigations. If you believe their depo's it seems none of them shared info. It almost seems like they never even SPOKE to eachother. Or so they want us to believe.


Per Lee: they broke up into 3-areas to be productive to the case.
Lee-Investigator
Cindy- Media
George- Missing flyers-the booth-etc. (billboard)

LOL this is hysterical... Casey's story to Lee about Zanny @ Blanchard Park. Then later that day he finds out Casey told Cindy the same story. Lee doesn't fall for her story-- but thinks Zanny is Jessie and that could have been who held her down in the park.

[Barbara fl.]

Cindy recounted an event from a Sunday night. Not, imo, the Sunday night in question. This is vintage Cindy. She suddenly remembers she and "her girls" cuddled up on Casey's bed to watch Desperate Housewives on Father's Day evening? Suurrree they did. And if she were challenged with this mis-truth? She would simply say that's what they did on many Sunday nights, and maybe she has her Sunday nights mixed up. She can't remember exactly. Her memories of that period have grown fuzzy what with her lack of food and not getting a full night's sleep in over a year.

This is the kind of thing you can't really argue with ... and Cindy knows it. But, no worries. Her maker will argue with her plenty at the end of her days. I've never seen such evil in two women as I see in Cindy and her daughter.


That's why Cindy say's SUMDAY's because she knows her daughter was at the club on Friday's and Saturdays so she tried to play it smart....she wouldn't want them to produce a video for a night that she claims they all watched TV together....

They all think they are being slick....they are a bunch of air heads..the defense, Casey and the Anthony's.....all a bunch of air heads...

[desmom]

Yes, she HEARD them sleeping before she left for work.

Also in Cindy's depo she said Caylee usually got her own breakfast. :angry:

:scared: Why the heck would anyone allow a 2 year old to get their own breakfast?

[Bala]

Does Cindy think all the jurors are going to be wearing a dunce cap. Does she truly believe that people will believe that being months behind on her mortgage and having a heavy credit card debt she wasn't upset a Casey for stealing her credit card and putting her $5K farther into the hole. Doesn't she realize comments like this will be what help convict Casey.

[tmw]

Have I missed the whole thing???
Is it over?

[kakax]

oh, yeah!!


Something tells me George didn't get many calls.

[Sun]

Another version of the events of June 16 per George: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

page 150 line 11:

I think Caylee got up probably around 7:30, eight o'clock that morning. I know she saw Cindy just before she left. And I know that her and I went out and gave her some cereal, some juice and some more coffee and ...

Didn't Cindy say she did not see Caylee before she left for work on June 16?

Sounds to me like George has now changed his story, as he doesn't like the pressure of being the ONLY OTHER person to "see" Caylee on June 16.

[need2no]

I wish that LDB has specifically asked Cindy if she knew that George still has a Pending Civil Case in regards to a CC issue.

In the Bond Hearing when LDB brought this up, Cindy said she realized they were behind on some payments, lol.

[denjet]

Per Lee: they broke up into 3-areas to be productive to the case.
Lee-Investigator
Cindy- Media
George- Missing flyers-the booth-etc. (billboard)

LOL this is hysterical... Casey's story to Lee about Zanny @ Blanchard Park. Then later that day he finds out Casey told Cindy the same story. Lee doesn't fall for her story-- but thinks Zanny is Jessie and that could have been who held her down in the park.
Cindy? Media? HUH?? :lol:

There's where they made their first mistake!!

[Barbara fl.]

Cindy recounted an event from a Sunday night. Not, imo, the Sunday night in question. This is vintage Cindy. She suddenly remembers she and "her girls" cuddled up on Casey's bed to watch Desperate Housewives on Father's Day evening? Suurrree they did. And if she were challenged with this mis-truth? She would simply say that's what they did on many Sunday nights, and maybe she has her Sunday nights mixed up. She can't remember exactly. Her memories of that period have grown fuzzy what with her lack of food and not getting a full night's sleep in over a year.

This is the kind of thing you can't really argue with ... and Cindy knows it. But, no worries. Her maker will argue with her plenty at the end of her days. I've never seen such evil in two women as I see in Cindy and her daughter.

Your right...it couldn't be the night in question...I doubt that Cindy was cuddled up with Caylee and Casey after finding out that Casey had stolen from her father's assisted living account...There was no cuddling that night.....maybe a murder, but no cuddling....

[MomofaMarine]

and why they only seem to be on WFTV's site? (I downloaded them to my computer in case they disappear.)


They are also on blinkoncrime.com

[need2no]

Brad on Tru Tv with Jamie Floyd.

[jammies]

Per Lee: they broke up into 3-areas to be productive to the case.
Lee-Investigator
Cindy- Media
George- Missing flyers-the booth-etc. (billboard)

LOL this is hysterical... Casey's story to Lee about Zanny @ Blanchard Park. Then later that day he finds out Casey told Cindy the same story. Lee doesn't fall for her story-- but thinks Zanny is Jessie and that could have been who held her down in the park.


But GA doesn't know anything about the Blanchard story! lol

I love GA's "no I never did that. nope. I never did" over and over and over.

[KTBarTheDoor]

now we get bc ...OMG.

[Bala]

Cindy recounted an event from a Sunday night. Not, imo, the Sunday night in question. This is vintage Cindy. She suddenly remembers she and "her girls" cuddled up on Casey's bed to watch Desperate Housewives on Father's Day evening? Suurrree they did. And if she were challenged with this mis-truth? She would simply say that's what they did on many Sunday nights, and maybe she has her Sunday nights mixed up. She can't remember exactly. Her memories of that period have grown fuzzy what with her lack of food and not getting a full night's sleep in over a year.

This is the kind of thing you can't really argue with ... and Cindy knows it. But, no worries. Her maker will argue with her plenty at the end of her days. I've never seen such evil in two women as I see in Cindy and her daughter.

The difference is it was father's day and Cindy had just found out Casey was stealing from him. I think that that would stick out in her mind. Did she choke Casey every Sunday night so this one wasn't anything special?

[jammies]

Brad's voice is irritating.

[Pierre]

With the Anthonys saying she is alive and the attorney's saying someone else killed her. They are contradicting each other??? LOL

so.. heres what I get from it .a stranger did not murder Caylee...which is the truth for a change.

[tmw]

Have I missed the whole thing???
Is it over?

anybody? Please

[need2no]

Brad Conway telling Jamie Floyd the pros. has professional witnesses. WTH?

[achristie]

Brad on Tru Tv with Jamie Floyd.

Oh brother. I'm so sick of hearing about these murderers deserving a fair trial. How much of a fair shake did little Caylee get?

MOO Aggie

[Ellie]

Hi Ellie - I've only completed Cindy's so far.

* She now says the smell in the car wasn't so much of a concern to her.

* She now admits the battery was removed so that Casey didn't come home and take the car back.

* She admits they got $20,000 for the CBS show airing tomorrow night.

* She was on short term disability but now is on a 2 yr long-term disability and collects rent from Lee. This is how she's paying the bills.

* She believes Ricardo is gay or bi-sexual. (JP too apparently.)

* The "people being watched" that George referred to were Amy, Ricardo, Tony, etc.


That's all I can remember right now.

Huh, sounds like I should hurry and get to Cindy's interview. Thanks for your input, Betty! :smile:

[Spots]

I swear I heard Ford say that Baez' client in the above case is appealing due to ineffective counsel.

Verily.

"A Lake County man, serving a 15-year prison sentence in the death of a toddler, wants his manslaughter and child-abuse convictions overturned, citing judicial and prosecutorial misconduct and the "defectiveness" of his defense lawyer, Jose Baez."

Nilton Diaz (http://crimesearchersonline.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=31&func=view&catid=13&id=20149)

I believe the appeal was denied.

[tmw]

You missed it.

But TruTV is repeating many parts of the hearing. And the hearing is most likely already on youtube.

Crud!
Now I can stop trying to load a live feed! lol
I can probably watch parts on WESH
Thanks for reply!

oh and Brad....I think you know you're in a mess!

[denjet]

Another version of the events of June 16 per George: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

page 150 line 11:

I think Caylee got up probably around 7:30, eight o'clock that morning. I know she saw Cindy just before she left. And I know that her and I went out and gave her some cereal, some juice and some more coffee and ...

Didn't Cindy say she did not see Caylee before she left for work on June 16?

Absolutely! and when questioned about it, she didn't see them but walked by the room and she could "hear" them sleeping !!

Cindy and George, PICK A STORY, ANY STORY AND STICK WITH IT, FGS !!

[Chardonnay]

At least Brad said KC could get a fair trial in Orlando ! :thumbup:

[Januarybaby]

Cindy recounted an event from a Sunday night. Not, imo, the Sunday night in question. This is vintage Cindy. She suddenly remembers she and "her girls" cuddled up on Casey's bed to watch Desperate Housewives on Father's Day evening? Suurrree they did. And if she were challenged with this mis-truth? She would simply say that's what they did on many Sunday nights, and maybe she has her Sunday nights mixed up. She can't remember exactly. Her memories of that period have grown fuzzy what with her lack of food and not getting a full night's sleep in over a year.

This is the kind of thing you can't really argue with ... and Cindy knows it. But, no worries. Her maker will argue with her plenty at the end of her days. I've never seen such evil in two women as I see in Cindy and her daughter.

Cindy would love nothing more than for people to believe they were "The All American Family" and Casey was "Mother of the Year"

Cindy, hate to tell you this, but people dont see it that way and with all we know, we will NOT believe it no matter how many times you try to throw it out there.

[martha]

Hi everyone did we get anything out of the hearing this morning? all the def.is doing is bringing up things to delay the trial. Or they really going to have a trial on the check chg.in feb? I don;t know if they will ever have a trial. I sure will not be around to see it at my age.Poor little Caylee the family must have not cared one thing about her. now all they want is money.Which they or getting plenty of. no more work for cindy and george. I really don;t think cindy is getting money from Lee. jmho:wub:

[jammies]

Gotta love Jamie. The banner below the picture is about the judge granting the defense access to pictures, not about the judge upholding the state's motion to strike the defense's farce motion.


Oh, and it was a "such a treat to have you on, Brad". gag

[need2no]

Gotta love Jamie. The banner below the picture is about the judge granting the defense access to pictures, not about the judge upholding the state's motion to strike the defense's farce motion.

LOL, love it.

And Conway wants us to keep an open mind. Much of the info out there is speculative and some of it is just wrong. :rolleyes:

BTW-WTH did he mean by the pros. has some professional witnesses?

[MomofaMarine]

Is the whole Anthony family completely NUTS? I know they are but for crying out loud! You know they have to read message boards just like this one. They have to know that the public does not think highly of them. They also have to know that we are not buying into their BS. How stupid can they be?

[msgatorslayer]

I was wondering why Cindy was rambling about how Casey and her co-workers would exchange name tags all the time.

Then I get to the end of the depo and see the pics. The black bag has a Universal name tag that says "Chris'.

:confused: Still don't know it means though.

[Januarybaby]

Absolutely! and when questioned about it, she didn't see them but walked by the room and she could "hear" them sleeping !!

Cindy and George, PICK A STORY, ANY STORY AND STICK WITH IT, FGS !!

LOL

They can put their many stories on pieces of papers and pull one out of a hat to stick with. It doesnt matter which one, they are still all lies.

[msgatorslayer]

At least Brad said KC could get a fair trial in Orlando ! :thumbup:

He could get the hammer for that!:scared:

[Spots]

Per Lee: they broke up into 3-areas to be productive to the case.
Lee-Investigator
Cindy- Media
George- Missing flyers-the booth-etc. (billboard)

LOL this is hysterical... Casey's story to Lee about Zanny @ Blanchard Park. Then later that day he finds out Casey told Cindy the same story. Lee doesn't fall for her story-- but thinks Zanny is Jessie and that could have been who held her down in the park.

Lee - "Glamor" or "cool" job that requires no actual results.

Cindy - Gets to put her face in front of the cameras.

George - Glorified gopher.

Yeah, that's about right.

[MomofaMarine]

Judge won't throw out Casey Anthony murder charge


http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gSCB_oxlbv95mfQuS7sW3xgOZCVQD9BCA57O3

[MomofaMarine]

Judge won't dismiss charges against Casey Anthony


http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local/story/Judge-wont-dismiss-charges-against-Casey-Anthony/ja3HjNYxp066W5QsRG_Vyg.cspx

[desmom]

Sounds to me like George has now changed his story, as he doesn't like the pressure of being the ONLY OTHER person to "see" Caylee on June 16.

I think George forgot the script re: Casey and the gas cans http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html page 163 line 23

[aubrey04]

Jose Baez, attorney for Casey Anthony called defective lawyer by former client


Diaz claims he lost his case and was convicted of manslaughter and child abuse because of Baez’ trial strategy and performance, including his decision not to disclose pertinent evidence to prosecutors. Diaz insists this prevented the jurors from viewing an important defense video.

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m3d28-Jose-Baez-attorney-for-Casey-Anthony-called-defective-lawyer-by-former-client

That was a pretty high profile case, IIRC. Not sure whether Diaz did it or not, but I wouldn't doubt it if Baez did bungle it. He's an idiot. imo.

:shrug:

[seeing_eye]

Lee still believes Caylee is alive? :lol:

Do you know what page that morsel is on? TIA

They all "believe" Caylee is still alive. I suspected this would be their position as far back as April when I posted the following:

04-08-2009, 08:43 PM

Regardless whether the writer(s) of CayleesPlace.com is the troll or some other person, they might be affiliated some way with the Anthony camp. If so, this excerpt from the site is kind of interesting:

"Cadavers stolen, height of child based on bones, foot size, old injuries to long bones, tests from tooth which could have come from live Caylee?"

Is it possible someone is trying to build "evidence" that Caylee is still alive? Or could this website just be someone playing a joke?

I felt then, as I do now, that they do not really believe Caylee is still alive, but they wanted to pretend they do in order to provide "reasonable doubt" to potential jurors. JMO, of course.

[need2no]

At least Brad said KC could get a fair trial in Orlando ! :thumbup:

Well yes, and he said it wasn't finding jurors that have never heard of this case, but jurors that can be fair and impartial, and listen to the Judge's orders. Yet he feels it will take a long time to seat a jury and questions how many panels they will have to go through before they find 12 jurors. So, he must have little faith in the people of Fl in terms of being fair, and impartial.

[denjet]

Cindy recounted an event from a Sunday night. Not, imo, the Sunday night in question. This is vintage Cindy. She suddenly remembers she and "her girls" cuddled up on Casey's bed to watch Desperate Housewives on Father's Day evening? Suurrree they did. And if she were challenged with this mis-truth? She would simply say that's what they did on many Sunday nights, and maybe she has her Sunday nights mixed up. She can't remember exactly. Her memories of that period have grown fuzzy what with her lack of food and not getting a full night's sleep in over a year.

This is the kind of thing you can't really argue with ... and Cindy knows it. But, no worries. Her maker will argue with her plenty at the end of her days. I've never seen such evil in two women as I see in Cindy and her daughter.

Cindy thinks she can be evasive and suffering from memory loss or whatever she thinks is her clever way of lying and not getting caught or called on it .... Even if she doesn't get caught in a lie on the stand (which I think she will), I really think her demeanor and evasiveness will definitely make a negative impression on the jury !!

They'll be wanting to pull their hair out too!!

[KTBarTheDoor]

anybody? Please

heres part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7VCuGvP69I


part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjlzUdi1gfA


part 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKWIO_luem4

[MomofaMarine]

News 13 Tweets From Casey Anthony’s Court Hearing


http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Sidebar/2009/10/16/news_13_tweets_from_casey_anthonys_court_hearing.h tml

[msgatorslayer]

I'm gonna put on a pair of tube socks and move on to another depo.:biggrin:

[MomofaMarine]

I muted it. I don't need to hear more of Brad's spin or his inaccurate, ill-informed statements. I can't stand Jamie either, so I just glance up every now and keep it mute for the most part. :smile:

A "professional witness," to my knowledge, is someone who makes a living going around testifying at trials.


Thats ok, the Defense has professional IDIOTS (the Anthonys). :thumbsup:

[*Serenity*]

But GA doesn't know anything about the Blanchard story! lol

I love GA's "no I never did that. nope. I never did" over and over and over.

After the 400 pages of Lee's garbage, I don't think I can take to reading anymore of the depos today. Lee the investigator.. and there was talk that he would join Dom in being his assistant-- hoping to protect anything Casey would tell him. :rolleyes: Guess- according to Lee that didn't pan out for some reason, or so he claims.

He does a lot of that 'laughing' in his depo and at times Baez tried to throw his funny childish comments in. I don't think I could sit in the same room with either of them.

AND I wonder if it just burned Cindy (no pun ha intended) that Tracy would go outside for her smoke breaks.

[KTBarTheDoor]

I muted it. I don't need to hear more of Brad's spin or his inaccurate, ill-informed statements. I can't stand Jamie either, so I just glance up every now and keep it mute for the most part. :smile:

A "professional witness," to my knowledge, is someone who makes a living going around testifying at trials.

I agree cant stand either one of them..

[need2no]

Judge won't dismiss charges against Casey Anthony


http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local/story/Judge-wont-dismiss-charges-against-Casey-Anthony/ja3HjNYxp066W5QsRG_Vyg.cspx

The courtroom was packed for the hearing. Casey, wearing a turquoise outfit, smiled at her parents as she entered the room.


Send more snack money and I will smile bigger next time. :biggrin:

[need2no]

I agree cant stand either one of them..

Well that's 3 of us so far.

[need2no]

I muted it. I don't need to hear more of Brad's spin or his inaccurate, ill-informed statements. I can't stand Jamie either, so I just glance up every now and then and keep it mute for the most part. :smile:

A "professional witness," to my knowledge, is someone who makes a living going around testifying at trials.

ITA, but who does the prosecution have that could be a professional witness? Sean Hannady?

Conway has a lot of gaul talking about the prosecution having pro witnesses!

[KTBarTheDoor]

Got a question.. How is baez going to prove what he's saying about when the evidence comes out she'll be aquitted? if casey does not take the stand baez cant testify for her

OMG what is that ding dong saying casey's grieving? she's thin dark circles....Oh lady are you on team baez.. she was LAUGHING ..
Turnd it back up after bc should have left it muted..
But then again she is on jf ......OMG!!!

[moondance]

could someone please give me a link to cindy s latest interview. i have been wondering about how they are living thank you in advance

[need2no]

That should be Sean Henady, aerial imagery expert.

[5swab5]

I'm gonna put on a pair of tube socks and move on to another depo.:biggrin:

Ya need to cover them up with hip waders. JustSayin'.

[MomofaMarine]

could someone please give me a link to cindy s latest interview. i have been wondering about how they are living thank you in advance



http://www.wftv.com/news/21308788/detail.html

[need2no]

could someone please give me a link to cindy s latest interview. i have been wondering about how they are living thank you in advance

I assume you are talking about the depos, here are the links:

George: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310228/detail.html

Cindy, part 1: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310276/detail.html

Cindy part 2: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310288/detail.html

Lee: http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310241/detail.html

[desmom]

could someone please give me a link to cindy s latest interview. i have been wondering about how they are living thank you in advance

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=13563291&postcount=387

[5swab5]

The courtroom was packed for the hearing. Casey, wearing a turquoise outfit, smiled at her parents as she entered the room.


Send more snack money and I will smile bigger next time. :biggrin:

If she flashed a $50.00 smile at them, I missed it. MOO

[moondance]

Wow thank you need

[moondance]

thank you ALL soooooo much appreach!!!!

[jammies]

They all "believe" Caylee is still alive. I suspected this would be their position as far back as April when I posted the following:

04-08-2009, 08:43 PM

Regardless whether the writer(s) of CayleesPlace.com is the troll or some other person, they might be affiliated some way with the Anthony camp. If so, this excerpt from the site is kind of interesting:

"Cadavers stolen, height of child based on bones, foot size, old injuries to long bones, tests from tooth which could have come from live Caylee?"

Is it possible someone is trying to build "evidence" that Caylee is still alive? Or could this website just be someone playing a joke?

I felt then, as I do now, that they do not really believe Caylee is still alive, but they wanted to pretend they do in order to provide "reasonable doubt" to potential jurors. JMO, of course.



Yep, after having a CMA memorial service and wearing Caylee's cremains....... oh yeah, and displaying her death certificate like a graduation picture in their home. :blink:

[Chardonnay]

N2N....Did KC really smile at her parents? I missed her walking into the courtroom.. My screen was still dark...

[marinewife5]

Yep, after having a CMA memorial service and wearing Caylee's cremains....... oh yeah, and displaying her death certificate like a graduation picture in their home. :blink:

and that just begs the question: is it hanging next to casey's employee of the year award?

[need2no]

If she flashed a $50.00 smile at them, I missed it. MOO

LOL

I missed it too, hopefully one of the outlets will have the entire hearing, I want to see Cindy and George's reaction to the $50.00 smile.

[need2no]

N2N....Did KC really smile at her parents? I missed her walking into the courtroom.. My screen was still dark...

Mine was too. I got this statement- the courtroom was packed for the hearing. Casey, wearing a turquoise outfit, smiled at her parents as she entered the room, at the link from ABC.

[MomofaMarine]

and that just begs the question: is it hanging next to casey's employee of the year award?


Either that or "Mother Of The Year". :biggrin:

[aubrey04]

It cracks me up that Cindy is taking the blame for the chloroform searches. Why hasn't she fessed up to supposedly being the one who could have caused those searches?

BTW, Wasn't it revealed that she was at work during the time those searches took place?

She's going to get sliced & diced under cross-examine.

imo

[KTBarTheDoor]

ut oh george...another lie..

Q> When do you recall approx. when you first saw casey or Caylee that morning?

A. I think Caylee got up at 7:30 or 8:00 that morning. I know she saw cindy just before she left. And I know her an I went out and gave her some cereal, some juice and made more coffee..

Oh george you said earlier you never seen them until casey and Caylee was leaving.

Then you said you took Caylee out to the car and put her in her seat..

Then you said you gave Caylee her breakfast that morning as you usually did.

Oh and george cindy said she never seen them at morning but she knew they were home cause she heard them sleeping..

Oh george it would have been much better if you told the truth from get go then you would have to worry about trying to keep all your lies straight..

[Sun]

I'm catching on. It is much, much easier to read through these depositions with the task of looking at "what they aren't saying" rather than what they are saying.

Cindy make a point to say that she saw Casey's car the morning of June 16th, but then goes on to say that it was either in the driveway or on the street. Huh? If she saw it, why wouldn't she know where she saw it. :huh: Which sort of makes me think that maybe it wasn't there.

[IM4Truth]

Got a question.. How is baez going to prove what he's saying about when the evidence comes out she'll be aquitted? if casey does not take the stand baez cant testify for her

OMG what is that ding dong saying casey's grieving? she's thin dark circles....Oh lady are you on team baez.. she was LAUGHING ..
Turnd it back up after bc should have left it muted..
But then again she is on jf ......OMG!!!

Hey! Don't I know you? Missed all the hearing stuff this morning but just saw some slide show photos. What was so funny at the hearing that had Jose and Casey laughing so hard????

[KTBarTheDoor]

It cracks me up that Cindy is taking the blame for the chloroform searches. Why hasn't she fessed up to supposedly being the one who could have caused those searches to come up?

BTW, Wasn't it revealed that she was at work during the time those searches took place?

She's going to get sliced & diced under cross-examine.

imo

yeppers......cmam

= cover my azz mom..

[msgatorslayer]

It cracks me up that Cindy is taking the blame for the chloroform searches. Why hasn't she fessed up to supposedly being the one who could have caused those searches?

BTW, Wasn't it revealed that she was at work during the time those searches took place?

She's going to get sliced & diced under cross-examine.

imo

And the woman is obsessed with that bamboo. Out of all the plants in her yard, it was the bamboo that the yorkies were munching on. Causing her to look up chlorophyll cause it was the green stuff in the plants making the dogs sick.

I see Cindy, going to the library, typing in the letters "Chl" and the menu popping that up, and she went with it.

Yep. That's it. I was searching for chlorophyll and chloroform accidentally came up. Doesn't matter that I wasn't home.

[MomofaMarine]

Judge won't dismiss charges against Casey Anthony


http://www.cbs12.com/news/charges-4721854-anthony-attorneys.html

[JadedPoet]

What I don't understand is the defense whining about not being able to see the crime scene and how it looked before being torn apart by LE. Why don't they ask Casey what it looked like? She had first access to the scene even!! :tonguewag:

[BlueTurtle]

It actually happens often by a non-custodial parent.

We had a case here in Iowa where the parent was charged with kidnapping. She participayed with having her son chained in an unfinished basement and allowed her boyfriend to abuse the boy. The older sister finally reported it to the authorities.

[Duke]

Q. What time did she go to bed that evening (June 15th), if you recall?

A. Oh, man. We probably stayed up and watched Desperate Housewives together. I tucked the girls in and I stayed in Casey's room and watched that with them. So probably maybe 10:00 or so.

Q. Now, earlier we talked about whether or not Caylee had a schedule. Did she have a bedtime?

A. Yes.

Q. What was it?

A. Caylee usually went down somewhere betwen 8:30 and 9:30.

Q. Okay.

A. And Caylee would have already been sleeping. But a lot of times I would join them because Caylee slept in Casey's bed. And we would just stay up and watch TV and Caylee would be there sleeping and we -- she'd be between us.

Q. All right. Did Caylee sleep with Casey a lot?

A. Every night.

Q. Okay.

A. She didn't sleep in her bed during the night, just during the day, for a nap once in a while. But it's usually on Casey's bed.

(typos are all mine)


Ok, George was asked about night of the 15th, but his reply is "We probably..." If that was his last evening with KC and Caylee for a full 31days would not a normal person remember if they had laid in bed w/ KC and Caylee that night? Wouldn't a normal person remember those last moments spent together as a family? I think I am pretty darn normal (no really:tongue:) but when my sis died I remember our last conversation, where we were, what we did, and I even remember the first song heard on the radio w/o her.

How in the world does he not know? Doesn’t he boast about his detective life? Very bad George...:thumbdown: and I am not buying his stories. He is so open ended with his answers in that interview.

[KTBarTheDoor]

Hey! Don't I know you? Missed all the hearing stuff this morning but just saw some slide show photos. What was so funny at the hearing that had Jose and Casey laughing so hard????

Dont have a clue missed it to. But if you go to links they have a links where you can watch it.

[jammies]

and that just begs the question: is it hanging next to casey's employee of the year award?


Now you've got my imagination running wild, mw! oh dear!

[Postergeist]

Hey! Don't I know you? Missed all the hearing stuff this morning but just saw some slide show photos. What was so funny at the hearing that had Jose and Casey laughing so hard????

they laughed at what the judge said

day's hearings are all here on video-

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=13564078&postcount=389

[Chardonnay]

Mine was too. I got this statement- the courtroom was packed for the hearing. Casey, wearing a turquoise outfit, smiled at her parents as she entered the room, at the link from ABC.

OK, Gotcha... Is there a link up showing it? TIA!

[need2no]

OK, Gotcha... Is there a link up showing it? TIA!

Not that I've found so far. Hopefully someone captured casey entering the courtroom. Darn all these technical difficulties they had today!

[BlueTurtle]

yes going to be interesting come trial to see if they are colored cordinated...lol even the students that came with AL has some color of green on..

united in color divided we fall...

Shamrock green. Might be prevented from wearing pins, but nothing to say about color of clothes.

[5swab5]

It cracks me up that Cindy is taking the blame for the chloroform searches. Why hasn't she fessed up to supposedly being the one who could have caused those searches?

BTW, Wasn't it revealed that she was at work during the time those searches took place?

She's going to get sliced & diced under cross-examine.

imo

My prediction:

Cindy's gonna show her tail on the stand and seriously test every nerve Judge Stan has. He will be very reluctant to jail Cindy, but ultimately, I doubt he has a chance.

She might even think she will be falling on her sword for Casey. Hmm, on second though, I think this will be George's job. MOO

[aubrey04]

And the woman is obsessed with that bamboo. Out of all the plants in her yard, it was the bamboo that the yorkies were munching on. Causing her to look up chlorophyll cause it was the green stuff in the plants making the dogs sick.

I see Cindy, going to the library, typing in the letters "Chl" and the menu popping that up, and she went with it.

Yep. That's it. I was searching for chlorophyll and chloroform accidentally came up. Doesn't matter that I wasn't home.

:lol: So funny. I was thinking something similar. Like her trying to find some way to be able to take the blame, so she googled up chlorophyll to link it up somehow.. but not at home, so it can't be trace.. Wonder if they have a throw-away computer/"bat" computer too.

I like how when asked if she took her dogs to the vet - she said she didn't because she realized that her dog just liked to sleep a lot.. So she thought something was wrong with her dog because he sleeps a lot and was vomiting, looked up chlorophyll and found that it can cause dogs to get sick, but then ultimately decided that her dog is just lazy, a lot like her daughter..

At least she didn't try to take the blame for the neck-breaking searches.. :laugh:

[*MoonRider*]

Hi everyone. I just caught bits and pieces of today's proceedings. Did the OC acknowledge her parents in any way today? TIA

[need2no]

Shamrock green. Might be prevented from wearing pins, but nothing to say about color of clothes.

What do they think they stand to gain by all this game playing BS?

I wonder if this is just an in-your-face finger flip off to the public and the prosecution who want to see casey go down.

[charmin 66]

See George chewing

[need2no]

My prediction:

Cindy's gonna show her tail on the stand and seriously test every nerve Judge Stan has. He will be very reluctant to jail Cindy, but ultimately, I doubt he has a chance.

She might even think she will be falling on her sword for Casey. Hmm, on second though, I think this will be George's job. MOO

BBM

Cindy will have the idea, but George will carry it out. :biggrin:

[msgatorslayer]

:lol: So funny. I was thinking something similar. Like her trying to find some way to be able to take the blame, so she googled up chlorophyll to link it up somehow.. but not at home, so it can't be trace.. Wonder if they have a throw-away computer/"bat" computer too.

I like how when asked if she took her dogs to the vet - she said she didn't because she realized that her dog just liked to sleep a lot.. So she thought something was wrong with her dog because he sleeps a lot and was vomiting, looked up chlorophyll and found that it can cause dogs to get sick, but then ultimately decided that her dog is just lazy, a lot like her daughter..

At least she didn't try to take the blame for the neck-breaking searches.. :laugh:

Yep, and she doesn't care how stupid she looks.

My dog EATS grass. Not bamboo, not any trees or plants, he grazes on the grass when his stomach is upset so he can throw up.

LMAO that the dog is lazy like her Daughter. :lol:

[farrahrani]

:lol: So funny. I was thinking something similar. Like her trying to find some way to be able to take the blame, so she googled up chlorophyll to link it up somehow.. but not at home, so it can't be trace.. Wonder if they have a throw-away computer/"bat" computer too.

I like how when asked if she took her dogs to the vet - she said she didn't because she realized that her dog just liked to sleep a lot.. So she thought something was wrong with her dog because he sleeps a lot and was vomiting, looked up chlorophyll and found that it can cause dogs to get sick, but then ultimately decided that her dog is just lazy, a lot like her daughter..

At least she didn't try to take the blame for the neck-breaking searches.. :laugh:


And she's had the dogs for HOW long? And just realized last year that they eat grass and plants to cure an upset stomach? Yeah, ok..right... :thumbdown:

And I don't believe for one minute she'll ''fall on her sword'' for Casey. She will muddy the waters as much as she can without causing herself inconvenience, and that's about the limit anyone in this family will go to for each other.

IMO

[ish]

Morning after Father's Day, George says Caylee was up and visited with Cindy prior to Cindy leaving for work. That doesn't match what CIndy has been saying all along. I'll read her depo next and see if she has changed her story.

[MomofaMarine]

Casey Anthony case: Trial date set in fraud case, murder charges stand

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m10d16-Casey-Anthony-case-Trial-date-set-in-fraud-case-murder-charges-stand


According to WFTV, the “defense failed to provide a witness list for one of the issues and gave legal notice to the sheriff’s office instead of the county to prepare for the jail camera issue…” The report indicates the Orange County jail has not been run by the sheriff since 1987.

[JadedPoet]

See George chewing

Yup, annoying. I find the 2 young men in suits in the front row interesting, especially the one on the left. He kind of rolls his eyes while LDB is talking. Makes me wonder if they are students of Ms. Lyon's. Maybe they even helped write the motion to dismiss. Hmmm...

[need2no]

Hi everyone. I just caught bits and pieces of today's proceedings. Did the OC acknowledge her parents in any way today? TIA

According to this, yes.

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/lo...5QsRG_Vyg.cspx

[5swab5]

:lol: So funny. I was thinking something similar. Like her trying to find some way to be able to take the blame, so she googled up chlorophyll to link it up somehow.. but not at home, so it can't be trace.. Wonder if they have a throw-away computer/"bat" computer too.

I like how when asked if she took her dogs to the vet - she said she didn't because she realized that her dog just liked to sleep a lot.. So she thought something was wrong with her dog because he sleeps a lot and was vomiting, looked up chlorophyll and found that it can cause dogs to get sick, but then ultimately decided that her dog is just lazy, a lot like her daughter..

At least she didn't try to take the blame for the neck-breaking searches.. :laugh:

She should have gone for chlorine, at least she had a reasonable excuse for looking that up. MOO

[need2no]

Yup, annoying. I find the 2 young men in suits in the front row interesting, especially the one on the left. He kind of rolls his eyes while LDB is talking. Makes me wonder if they are students of Ms. Lyon's. Maybe they even helped write the motion to dismiss. Hmmm...

The one guy that was the tallest just sat there almost like a statue looking straight ahead, it was weird. And yes, I think they were AL's students. I wonder who paid for their flight to FL?

[5swab5]

See George chewing

They really do need to shoot for an endorsement with Bubble Yum. OR Dentists-R-Us.
MOO

[Postergeist]

imo, and I'm still reading thru George's depo,

Cindy does have the power in the house

Money = Power


pg. 118 he owns up to the fact that Cindy has always financially contributed more to the family than he ever has

"Cindy... has basically been the bread winner of our home...the roles have reversed over the years.

She has always provided more than I've been able to provide"


For a marriage that has lasted over 20 years, they filed for bankruptcy early in their marriage, imo they are not equally yoked, she has had the upper hand, the power and the final say so in how things run and are done.

[msgatorslayer]

She should have gone for chlorine, at least she had a reasonable excuse for looking that up. MOO

I don't think she's privy to what kind of 'missing children' information was researched. Otherwise, she would have owned up to that one as well. By tying it to the Duckett case somehow.

[MomofaMarine]

State, defense spar during Casey Anthony hearing


http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/10/state-defense-spar-during-case.html

[need2no]

imo, and I'm still reading thru George's depo,

Cindy does have the power in the house

Money = Power


pg. 118 he owns up to the fact that Cindy has always financially contributed more to the family than he ever has

"Cindy... has basically been the bread winner of our home...the roles have reversed over the years.

She has always provided more than I've been able to provide"


For a marriage that has lasted over 20 years, they filed for bankruptcy early in their marriage, imo they are not equally yoked, she has had the upper hand, the power and the final say so in how things run and are done.


I agree, and I'd bet Cindy has held this over his head for the better part of 20 years.

[ish]

George trying to say the duct tape on the gas can when Casey returned it is different from the duct tape that was on it when she took it.

They've read the reports and are rewriting history to save Casey's sorry azz.:cursing:

[JadedPoet]

The one guy that was the tallest just sat there almost like a statue looking straight ahead, it was weird. And yes, I think they were AL's students. I wonder who paid for their flight to FL?

They probably paid for it themselves but got extra credit for going. I wonder if there was a competition among the students to see who would be allowed to go. Maybe it was the ones who wrote a motion the least fatally flawed. :laugh:

[Pierre]

imo, and I'm still reading thru George's depo,

Cindy does have the power in the house

Money = Power


pg. 118 he owns up to the fact that Cindy has always financially contributed more to the family than he ever has

"Cindy... has basically been the bread winner of our home...the roles have reversed over the years.

She has always provided more than I've been able to provide"


For a marriage that has lasted over 20 years, they filed for bankruptcy early in their marriage, imo they are not equally yoked, she has had the upper hand, the power and the final say so in how things run and are done.

We all knew GA was a loser. He will be a two time loser if he doesnt get his lies straight for the trial. just stick to the original GJ depo George, it prolly was full of half truths anyway.

[onlykaty]

Did I hear correctly, the check fraud trial will be held Jan. 25th?

[need2no]

They really do need to shoot for an endorsement with Bubble Yum. OR Dentists-R-Us.
MOO

Maybe Cindy chews weight loss gum, like Hoodia, and George might chew teeth whitening gum to keep his teeth matching his hair. :wink:

[Pierre]

George trying to say the duct tape on the gas can when Casey returned it is different from the duct tape that was on it when she took it.

They've read the reports and are rewriting history to save Casey's sorry azz.:cursing:

Ya I bet someone replaced the Caylee poster tape too!

[need2no]

Did I hear correctly, the check fraud trial will be held Jan. 25th?

Yes, and pre-trial for check trial is in December.

[onlykaty]

Yes, and pre-trial for check trial is in December.

I don't know about anyone else but I'm surprised. Looks like a good day so far..:)

[need2no]

I don't know about anyone else but I'm surprised. Looks like a good day so far..:)

I'll be surprised if there are no further delays, and the trial is in fact held in January.

[myownopera]

You guys just crack me up!! I cannot find words for this fiasco!


MOO:confused::confused:

[BlueTurtle]

What do they think they stand to gain by all this game playing BS?

I wonder if this is just an in-your-face finger flip off to the public and the prosecution who want to see casey go down.

It would not surprise me. I guess Cindy and George didn't get the memo about green clothes.

[msgatorslayer]

I'm reading Lee's depo and as he is describing the night when Casey said she hasn't seen Caylee in 31 days. He says he grabs a note pad and asks her where she has been staying. His intestigation came away with TonE's name. And that was it, lol. No mention of WHO took Caylee or anything. :confused:

The state is equally confused and they hand him his written statement which refreshes his memory. :cursing:

[cassidy]

Ya I bet someone replaced the Caylee poster tape too!


That isn't supposed to be revealed until the next deposition.

[onlykaty]

I'll be surprised if there are no further delays, and the trial is in fact held in January.

Oh good grief lets hope not. Maybe the judge is getting a little tired of their stall tactics.

Casey couldn't pull down one tear today, the defense aren't doing a very good job teaching her how to act imo. :rolleyes:

[BettyC]

I don't know about anyone else but I'm surprised. Looks like a good day so far..:)

Yes it does. My favorite article after I came home from the gym:

The court hearing was a lot shorter than it was supposed to be, because Casey's defense team made some legal snafus. The defense took a pounding in court; it couldn't have some of the hearings it wanted to have because it didn't do what it should have.

The defense failed to provide a witness list for one of the issues and gave legal notice to the sheriff's office instead of the county to prepare for the jail camera issue (read motion), but the sheriff has not run the Orange County jail since 1987.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html

[cassidy]

Yes it does. My favorite article after I came home from the gym:

The court hearing was a lot shorter than it was supposed to be, because Casey's defense team made some legal snafus. The defense took a pounding in court; it couldn't have some of the hearings it wanted to have because it didn't do what it should have.

The defense failed to provide a witness list for one of the issues and gave legal notice to the sheriff's office instead of the county to prepare for the jail camera issue (read motion), but the sheriff has not run the Orange County jail since 1987.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html

That Jose, he's really on top of things isn't he?

[sammy62]

George trying to say the duct tape on the gas can when Casey returned it is different from the duct tape that was on it when she took it.

They've read the reports and are rewriting history to save Casey's sorry azz.:cursing:

If this is true...Isn't it even more damaging for Casey. If the duct tape is not the same as when she took it. And its the same duct tape found on Caylee...... what am I missing here.

[forensicfan]

George trying to say the duct tape on the gas can when Casey returned it is different from the duct tape that was on it when she took it.

They've read the reports and are rewriting history to save Casey's sorry azz.:cursing:

Riiiiiiiight. Someone came in and replaced the existing tape with another piece of tape just to frame poor lil Casey. Let me guess, it was Zenaida. These people make fools of themselves each and every day this goes on.

[5boxersmom]

Just got back. Is there another Court Hearing going on now?

tia

[aubrey04]

I have to tell you guys.. I have found one person in a forum for movies/actors/television shows/personalities, etc -- who posts about Nancy Grace.. anyway, they're convinced that Casey is innocent.

There are people out there that have read a lot of the evidence & heard a lot about the case, but still think that a Zanny may exist... (well, at least one person :P )

Yes, I think more people believe in Bigfoot, but Baez does have some hope..

[Kathlb]

Yes it does. My favorite article after I came home from the gym:

The court hearing was a lot shorter than it was supposed to be, because Casey's defense team made some legal snafus. The defense took a pounding in court; it couldn't have some of the hearings it wanted to have because it didn't do what it should have.

The defense failed to provide a witness list for one of the issues and gave legal notice to the sheriff's office instead of the county to prepare for the jail camera issue (read motion), but the sheriff has not run the Orange County jail since 1987.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html

Oh good grief, just when I thought Jose couldn't get any worse, he does. How can this family be satisfied with such a clown?? I really hope that her conviction won't cause an ineffective counsel appeal. :sad:

[Postergeist]

We all knew GA was a loser. He will be a two time loser if he doesnt get his lies straight for the trial. just stick to the original GJ depo George, it prolly was full of half truths anyway.

Well, yeah, but to read his words admitting his short comings and yet trying to give himself props at how amazing he was at failing- it's an odd deal...

I see they touch upon his suicide letter by describing it as

"the note from Daytona" pg 133 of the pdf doc

then it appears that he is quoting from George's 'note' -

"I blame myself for her being gone. You know for months, as a matter of fact, for a year or so I brought stuff up, only to be told not to be negative."

George explains that the statement has to do with 'the jobs and things like that'

apparently referring to Casey's jobs and his suspicions of those jobs.


Just an odd dichotomy with this family- on one hand it seems that the children aren't really ever 'told' what to do, because they were raised to be 'leaders' and not followers...and the A's have stated how Casey is an adult and that they weren't going to interfere or ask about things like- will the father be financially responsible for Caylee

and yet-

here is a grown man, the husband, father and grandparent being told not to be negative, not to get involved, not to follow Casey, try to track her down at the workplace,

dad- I'll handle it George, I'll handle it

at least he does mention there was strife in the family.

imo

[5swab5]

If this is true...Isn't it even more damaging for Casey. If the duct tape is not the same as when she took it. And its the same duct tape found on Caylee...... what am I missing here.

The problem is, there is not a single member of that family who can engage their brain, before opening their mouth.

I thought that was taught in LYING 101? MOO

[Duke]

page 77, part 1 of Cindys depo she says (typos mine)

"As she got older, she had, you know a set breakfast. She’d get up, as she got older, she would get her own breakfast. She could go in and get a cup of cereal and watch her own movies…."

uhm, At two years old Caylee would get up and make her own breakfast and turn on the video player and select her own movie? Anyone believe this? It has been a while but I remember there is no way my son could have done this at that age.

[Pierre]

If GA had a better handle on supporting the family financially, he could say and do more freely. I can just hear Cindy; "dont be negative George and who pays the bills here anyway"

[5swab5]

I have to tell you guys.. I have found one person in a forum for movies/actors/television shows/personalities, etc -- who posts about Nancy Grace.. anyway, they're convinced that Casey is innocent.

There are people out there that have read a lot of the evidence & heard a lot about the case, but still think that a Zanny may exist... (well, at least one person :P )

Yes, I think more people believe in Bigfoot, but Baez does have some hope..

The mathematical probability of Casey being acquitted is about the same as Baez riding the Loch Ness Monster in Orlando's Christmas parade this year. MOO

[Jen]

page 77, part 1 of Cindys depo she says (typos mine)

"As she got older, she had, you know a set breakfast. She’d get up, as she got older, she would get her own breakfast. She could go in and get a cup of cereal and watch her own movies…."

uhm, At two years old Caylee would get up and make her own breakfast and turn on the video player and select her own movie? Anyone believe this? It has been a while but I remember there is no way my son could have done this at that age.


I have a 2 yr. old and there's now way in he** she would be able to do that & if she attempted it would a mess. She can't pour a box of cereal into a cup & then go pop in a movie, PUH-LEASE!

[Postergeist]

If this is true...Isn't it even more damaging for Casey. If the duct tape is not the same as when she took it. And its the same duct tape found on Caylee...... what am I missing here.

good point sammy- it should be more damaging, because there are no fingerprints of the invisinanny on the gas cans (or on Casey's car, or on the dvds Cindy turned over, or on the backpack, or on the inflatable bed, or the hair straightener, on the shed doors, etc.)

Casey never said to anyone that Zanny had to help her get gas during the times she ran out

no neighbors saw a Zanny at the A's home, in any vehicle, in the A's backyard.

imo

[nana6]

Oh good grief, just when I thought Jose couldn't get any worse, he does. How can this family be satisfied with such a clown?? I really hope that her conviction won't cause an ineffective counsel appeal. :sad:

Oh Lawd, Again with JB!!!! I have often said that if I were her family I would be frantic!!!

[martha]

No I do not believe at 2 years old a child did that. not fix their own breakfast. Just another lie from cindy. now when I hear all this mess coming from cindy and george and lee and casey it just makes me sick.I sure do hate to say this but CAYLEE is better of not being with them. God is taken good care of Caylee now. I feel like that is why God took Caylee home to be with him. Maybe he could not stand to see how she was being treated. jmho:wub:

[nana6]

No I do not believe at 2 years old a child did that. not fix their own breakfast. Just another lie from cindy. now when I hear all this mess coming from cindy and george and lee and casey it just makes me sick.I sure do hate to say this but CAYLEE is better of not being with them. God is taken good care of Caylee now. I feel like that is why God took Caylee home to be with him. Maybe he could not stand to see how she was being treated. jmho:wub:

I agree Martha. Good thought.:smile:

[nana6]

Oh lookie here. I just crossed the 2,000 marker!!!:rolleyes:

[Pierre]

Ya know Casey must be fuming that Ga & CA are making money and she was out of snacks. I dont think Cindy and Casey communicate at all, letters, codes whatever.
GA ran over to deposit snack money only when the news reported it.

[nana6]

I believe it. I believe Caylee spent most mornings essentially alone with her dry cereal, sippy cup and movies.

Hi Say, Isn't that just the saddest thought?

[Jen]

Oh lookie here. I just crossed the 2,000 marker!!!:rolleyes:

CONGRATS! :smile:

[Pierre]

The mathematical probability of Casey being acquitted is about the same as Baez riding the Loch Ness Monster in Orlando's Christmas parade this year. MOO

LOL! plenty of boat parades at Christmas, and we know who has a boat.

[aubrey04]

The mathematical probability of Casey being acquitted is about the same as Baez riding the Loch Ness Monster in Orlando's Christmas parade this year. MOO

While I agree with you about the probability.. I just wanted to point out that there are some people who think she's innocent.. People who watch NG nightly and supposedly have reviewed the evidence.

The problem for Baez is that this is a rarity and finding one in the jury pool would be like winning the lotto.

During the jury voir dire - Baez and co. should ask questions like, "Do you believe in unicorns?".. "Do you believe in UFOs?"... "Do you believe in Bigfoot?"... Because you'd have to have a really abstract brain to believe that Zanny exists.

imo

[jakee]

I am reading Cindy's interview. I thought you all were joking about the bat phone, or that you made up that term to be funny. I didn't realize they really did call the phones Bat Phones. :blushing:

I love how Cindy says it was her who looked up chlorophyll to see if her dogs could overdose on eating plants. And maybe chloroform came up in the search?

And what is with Cindy hiding that darn Lanyard?

[aubrey04]

I believe it. I believe Caylee spent most mornings essentially alone with her dry cereal, sippy cup and movies.

I do too.. While Casey was hungover in bed.... or busy on the phone/text messaging. Caylee probably had to learn early - how to take care of herself.. That just made me sad when I read that.

-imo-

[Explorer]

What do ya know she washed her hair!!

[Explorer]

I am reading Cindy's interview. I thought you all were joking about the bat phone, or that you made up that term to be funny. I didn't realize they really did call the phones Bat Phones. :blushing:

I love how Cindy says it was her who looked up chlorophyll to see if her dogs could overdose on eating plants. And maybe chloroform came up in the search?

And what is with Cindy hiding that darn Lanyard?

They just act like this is a movie and they have starring roles.

[5swab5]

While I agree with you about the probability.. I just wanted to point out that there are some people who think she's innocent.. People who watch NG nightly and supposedly have reviewed the evidence.

The problem for Baez is that this is a rarity and finding one in the jury pool would be like winning the lotto.

During the jury voir dire - Baez and co. should ask questions like, "Do you believe in unicorns?".. "Do you believe in UFOs?"... "Do you believe in Bigfoot?"... Because you'd have to have a really abstract brain to believe that Zanny exists.

imo


Hmm,

Even people that believe in unicorns and UFOs have seen pictures of them. Just Sayin'.

[Explorer]

There is something very wrong with those people.

[martha]

I do too.. While Casey was hungover in bed.... or busy on the phone/text messaging. Caylee probably had to learn early - how to take care of herself.. That just made me sad when I read that.

-imo-You could be right because none of them had any time for her. I guess george had more time for her than the rest of the family. Then again he did not have much time with her if what we or hearing about him is true. I know children that have to learn to take care of them selfs learn early how to get a box of dry cereal and some thing to drink from their cup when most of the time the cup is set in the ref.for them any way. I guess my point is I can;t believe anything Lee,Cindy or george has to say. I sure can;t believe anything casey has to say about anything.jmho:wub:

[Kathlb]

When a body has three pieces of duct tape over it's face, it's pretty clear to me that it would be deemed a homicide. But I ain't a fancy lawyer like Baez, so what do I know? :angry:

I'd venture a guess that in looking at his actions, you've got more common sense in your little finger than he will ever hope to have.

[jakee]

There is something very wrong with those people.

I can agree with this statement.

Just starting part 2 of Cindy. She still hasn't slept and can only handle an instant breakfast. Back to the bat phone questions. Cindy can't remember the numbers and didn't charge hers so she is no help.

[BettyC]

Just got back. Is there another Court Hearing going on now?

tia

No 5bm. It was over quickly this morning.

[5boxersmom]

No 5bm. It was over quickly this morning.

Thank you. So glad I did not miss anything. I did get to see the one this morning.

[SpecialK]

page 77, part 1 of Cindys depo she says (typos mine)

"As she got older, she had, you know a set breakfast. She’d get up, as she got older, she would get her own breakfast. She could go in and get a cup of cereal and watch her own movies…."

uhm, At two years old Caylee would get up and make her own breakfast and turn on the video player and select her own movie? Anyone believe this? It has been a while but I remember there is no way my son could have done this at that age.

I have two young children, too and this is BS. And if it's true, it suggests neglect. Casey may have put those things in reach for Caylee and showed her how to help herself because Casey wanted to sleep in. What a lazy, sorry excuse for a Mother. As parents, we all have our days that we don't feel 100% and find distractions for our kids so we can have a bit of a break. But a 2 year old being expected to get her own cereal and entertain herself is neglect, pure and simple. She could have choked on her "breakfast"! :flamemad:

[5swab5]

When a body has three pieces of duct tape over it's face, it's pretty clear to me that it would be deemed a homicide. But I ain't a fancy lawyer like Baez, so what do I know? :angry:


Not to mention TRIPLE bagged! This is going to be a hard sell. IMO

[5swab5]

I have two young children, too and this is BS. And if it's true, it suggests neglect. Casey may have put those things in reach for Caylee and showed her how to help herself because Casey wanted to sleep in. What a lazy, sorry excuse for a Mother. As parents, we all have our days that we don't feel 100% and find distractions for our kids so we can have a bit of a break. But a 2 year old being expected to get her own cereal and entertain herself is neglect, pure and simple. She could have choked on her "breakfast"! :flamemad:

But, but, but, don't ever forget and ALWAYS remember, Caylee lived in a home with not only a perfect mom, but perfect grandparents.

POOR BABY! :rose:

Did anybody EVER have time for her, except us? :crying: MOO

[need2no]

Yes it does. My favorite article after I came home from the gym:

The court hearing was a lot shorter than it was supposed to be, because Casey's defense team made some legal snafus. The defense took a pounding in court; it couldn't have some of the hearings it wanted to have because it didn't do what it should have.

The defense failed to provide a witness list for one of the issues and gave legal notice to the sheriff's office instead of the county to prepare for the jail camera issue (read motion), but the sheriff has not run the Orange County jail since 1987.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21314971/detail.html


Do ya think that Jose has figured out that WFTV/Kathi B., as well as everyone else has NOT learned to respect him? :tonguewag:

[BettyC]

But, but, but, don't ever forget and ALWAYS remember, Caylee lived in a home with not only a perfect mom, but perfect grandparents.

POOR BABY! :rose:

Did anybody EVER have time for her, except us? :crying: MOO

I've just read 100 pages of George's transcript so far but I noticed that too. These two are certainly not above tooting their own horns are they? They think everything they've done was just so perfect.

Don't discipline those children, give them 1,2,3,4 chances, whatever.

[mickeymb35]

I have two young children, too and this is BS. And if it's true, it suggests neglect. Casey may have put those things in reach for Caylee and showed her how to help herself because Casey wanted to sleep in. What a lazy, sorry excuse for a Mother. As parents, we all have our days that we don't feel 100% and find distractions for our kids so we can have a bit of a break. But a 2 year old being expected to get her own cereal and entertain herself is neglect, pure and simple. She could have choked on her "breakfast"! :flamemad:

But Casey was "the mother of the year"

[need2no]

I have two young children, too and this is BS. And if it's true, it suggests neglect. Casey may have put those things in reach for Caylee and showed her how to help herself because Casey wanted to sleep in. What a lazy, sorry excuse for a Mother. As parents, we all have our days that we don't feel 100% and find distractions for our kids so we can have a bit of a break. But a 2 year old being expected to get her own cereal and entertain herself is neglect, pure and simple. She could have choked on her "breakfast"! :flamemad:

And what I also found astounding is Cindy volunteered this information, and doesn't see to 'GET' how disgusting and inexcusable this is.

Dang, a two year old in a house with three adults and poor Caylee had to care for herself! :cursing:

[farrahrani]

Still not getting what JP and Ricardo's orientation have to do with any of this. Is Cindy implying that after being with a complete mess like Casey they were converted to homosexuality? :w00t:

It will be interesting to see if George can produce the people he had watching Jesse, Amy, etc. And how he is going to later explain the ''nine times'' Caylee was moved. Is he going to continue with his assertion those people were involved and say where they moved Caylee too? Because he clearly said in prior interviews the people were being watched and had moved Caylee nine times. I'd like to see them produce their alibis (workplace, family, friends, etc.) when George tries to name the places and times that Caylee was moved. :cursing:

[need2no]

I think it's hysterical that they chose Cindy to speak with the media! :drool: Yeah... she done real good on that one.

Snicker.

LOL, the index finger as spokeperson...how's that working out for you Cindy?

[need2no]

Still not getting what JP and Ricardo's orientation have to do with any of this. Is Cindy implying that after being with a complete mess like Casey they were converted to homosexuality? :w00t:

It will be interesting to see if George can produce the people he had watching Jesse, Amy, etc. And how he is going to later explain the ''nine times'' Caylee was moved. Is he going to continue with his assertion those people were involved and say where they moved Caylee too? Because he clearly said in prior interviews the people were being watched and had moved Caylee nine times. I'd like to see them produce their alibis (workplace, family, friends, etc.) when George tries to name the places and times that Caylee was moved. :cursing:


BBM

I think Cindy said this to imply she wasn't concerned with casey and Caylee being over at Ricardo's because he,(and JP) were safe, what with being gay.

Yes, I'm looking forward to George having to explain the 9 moves. Heck maybe it's in the GJ testimony, hope so.

[Duke]

I have two young children, too and this is BS. And if it's true, it suggests neglect. Casey may have put those things in reach for Caylee and showed her how to help herself because Casey wanted to sleep in. What a lazy, sorry excuse for a Mother. As parents, we all have our days that we don't feel 100% and find distractions for our kids so we can have a bit of a break. But a 2 year old being expected to get her own cereal and entertain herself is neglect, pure and simple. She could have choked on her "breakfast"! :flamemad:


They were all very neglectful. I always heard the pitter patter of my babys foot steps if he ever got up early. If he was up then so was I.

[aubrey04]

You could be right because none of them had any time for her. I guess george had more time for her than the rest of the family. Then again he did not have much time with her if what we or hearing about him is true. I know children that have to learn to take care of them selfs learn early how to get a box of dry cereal and some thing to drink from their cup when most of the time the cup is set in the ref.for them any way. I guess my point is I can;t believe anything Lee,Cindy or george has to say. I sure can;t believe anything casey has to say about anything.jmho:wub:

Hello dear sweet Martha,

I hope everything is ok in your world. :wub: Yes, it is hard making sense of what is true and just fictional with the A's. Every once in awhile I do believe something they say.. and I do believe that little Caylee was probably doing a lot of things herself, since no one seemed to have the time for her.

I am recalling how Amy said that Casey brought Caylee to a party one night & Caylee fell asleep on the couch.. she woke up and started to cry.. Amy said that Caylee then looked into her eyes and slowly went back to sleep. Imagine how scary that would be for a child.. waking up to a bunch of strangers - drinking & carrying on.. with her mother nowhere in sight.

That was a typical day in the life of Caylee.. it's very upsetting to think about.

[Explorer]

They were all very neglectful. I always heard the pitter patter of my babys foot steps if he ever got up early. If he was up then so was I.

Anything can happen with little kids they have to be watched constantly. I never even turned my back on mine when they were that little.

[farrahrani]

BBM

I think Cindy said this to imply she wasn't concerned with casey and Caylee being over at Ricardo's because he,(and JP) were safe, what with being gay.

Yes, I'm looking forward to George having to explain the 9 moves. Heck maybe it's in the GJ testimony, hope so.


Well, she made it clear she didn't like Jesse early on in the investigation, so I don't think that would have been her point. (maybe)

I think it's her way of casting a negative light on those young men, as if it meant they were dangerous and deviant. I don't think it's going to go over well with jurors who are gay or have relatives that are gay. She doesn't seem to realize that these days, in Fl at least, it is no longer a dirty shameful thing to be gay, and the gay/lesbian community is a force to be reckoned with.

[Duke]

Still not getting what JP and Ricardo's orientation have to do with any of this. Is Cindy implying that after being with a complete mess like Casey they were converted to homosexuality? :w00t:

It will be interesting to see if George can produce the people he had watching Jesse, Amy, etc. And how he is going to later explain the ''nine times'' Caylee was moved. Is he going to continue with his assertion those people were involved and say where they moved Caylee too? Because he clearly said in prior interviews the people were being watched and had moved Caylee nine times. I'd like to see them produce their alibis (workplace, family, friends, etc.) when George tries to name the places and times that Caylee was moved. :cursing:


Bold by me.
Probably LOL. When one story doesn't work out for her then she adds additional information in there to make it sound like everyone but them are a complete whack job.

[aubrey04]

Still not getting what JP and Ricardo's orientation have to do with any of this. Is Cindy implying that after being with a complete mess like Casey they were converted to homosexuality? :w00t:


That was just another one of Casey's lies. I guess the purpose of Casey telling Cindy that Ricardo & JP are gay is so she could spend the night & Amy/Ricardo/JP's without Cindy getting upset..? But why did Cindy had to add in that she still thinks Ricardo is bisexual but "that's just my opinion"? I don't know why she had to add her "opinion" into the mix..

[impartial]

page 77, part 1 of Cindys depo she says (typos mine)

"As she got older, she had, you know a set breakfast. She’d get up, as she got older, she would get her own breakfast. She could go in and get a cup of cereal and watch her own movies…."

uhm, At two years old Caylee would get up and make her own breakfast and turn on the video player and select her own movie? Anyone believe this? It has been a while but I remember there is no way my son could have done this at that age.


You mean I didn't have to make oatmeal every morning for 3 1/2 years for my twins?

But then again, I was still cutting their grapes in half when they were 5.

I wonder why Cindy would ever say these kind of things. She tries to make it sound like Caylee was advanced for her age in a bragging sort of way, not realizing people will wonder why is a 2 1/2 year old getting pre-sugared cereal, not sitting in a high chair, etc.

imo

[5swab5]

BBM

I think Cindy said this to imply she wasn't concerned with casey and Caylee being over at Ricardo's because he,(and JP) were safe, what with being gay.

Yes, I'm looking forward to George having to explain the 9 moves. Heck maybe it's in the GJ testimony, hope so.

Nah, you are not applying "Cindy Speak". :tonguewag:

What she said is meant to imply that Casey has nothing to do with men, had an immaculate conception and is still a virgin. :lol: MOO

[TunaMelt]

Hello dear sweet Martha,

I hope everything is ok in your world. :wub: Yes, it is hard making sense of what is true and just fictional with the A's. Every once in awhile I do believe something they say.. and I do believe that little Caylee was probably doing a lot of things herself, since no one seemed to have the time for her.

I am recalling how Amy said that Casey brought Caylee to a party one night & Caylee fell asleep on the couch.. she woke up and started to cry.. Amy said that Caylee then looked into her eyes and slowly went back to sleep. Imagine how scary that would be for a child.. waking up to a bunch of strangers - drinking & carrying on.. with her mother nowhere in sight.

That was a typical day in the life of Caylee.. it's very upsetting to think about.

I'll bet KC had already slipped a little something into whatever Caylee was drinking or eating -- so if she did wake up, it wouldn't be for long, and she'd fall back asleep.

Nobody can tell me that Caylee wasn't "on" some kind of drugs from those photos of her, during her last two months. She looked tired and out of it, and in no way like a normal healthy little 2 1/2 year old.

Dam KC.
All to hell.
:angry:

[TunaMelt]

Nah, you are not applying "Cindy Speak". :tonguewag:

What she said is meant to imply that Casey has nothing to do with men, had an immaculate conception and is still a virgin. :lol: MOO

Took the words right out of my mouth/keyboard.

All KC's boyfriends were gay, thus their relationship was just "friends."

How Caylee was conceived? Well, that was just magic, a miracle.

Clearly, KC was a virgin.

Everybody's virgin. LOL.
:sneaky:

[Scampi]

There are no words left for me to describe how I think this entire family failed Caylee.

Here you have george telling how smart Caylee was, could open doors etc and cynthia telling how she would get up in the morning all by herself; where the hell was the concern that Caylee would venture outside while their lazy butts stayed in bed?

They weren't there for Caylee then, and they aren't there for Caylee now, it's disgusting.

This little one never had a fighting chance in this horrendous family.

IMO.

[5swab5]

You mean I didn't have to make oatmeal every morning for 3 1/2 years for my twins?

But then again, I was still cutting their grapes in half when they were 5.

I wonder why Cindy would ever say these kind of things. She tries to make it sound like Caylee was advanced for her age in a bragging sort of way, not realizing people will wonder why is a 2 1/2 year old getting pre-sugared cereal, not sitting in a high chair, etc.

imo


No Kidding!

Next thing we know, Cindy will be on the front page of the INQUIRER swearing that Caylee drove the car away, the last time they saw her. MOO

[djmsmom]

Just got home from work and watched the hearing today. IMO Casey is loving this attention. Her eyes were surely on the camera everytime it moved in for a close up. She will never consider a plea. To be in jail and forgotten would drive her nuts, but knowing she's the center of attention for so many people on the defense and pros., is what is keeping her going. I imagine she enjoys listening to any news about herself.

[impartial]

No Kidding!

Next thing we know, Cindy will be on the front page of the INQUIRER swearing that Caylee drove the car away, the last time they saw her. MOO


Shhhhhhh, don't give her any ideas. :scared:

[TunaMelt]

I'm telling you this at the risk of being called a bad mother... but my eldest son used to do this when he was two. There was a time that I was quite ill and my husband was away working a lot. I would get a bowl of cereal ready the night before, put milk in a sippy cup and he could do his own breakfast. And no problem with turning the TV on and popping in a VHS tape.

I hate to stand up for Cindy in any possible way, but I do believe this one part of her depo.

Well, Annie, that makes two of us, but I don't think we were bad mothers.

Sometimes my daughter got up and spilled cereal into her cup and watched cartoons.

I didn't see anything wrong with it, occasionally --and I still don't. Thing is, I spent the other 23 hours with her. That pretty much makes up for cartoon watching alone.

That's not what makes KC and Cindy lousy mothers, the sippy and the cereal and the vids. It's more to do with the trunk of the car, calling it pizza smelling, and of course, the duct tape, which will wind up being the PERIOD at the end of the last sentence of this whole sad story.

We're okay Annie.
:wink:

[need2no]

Nah, you are not applying "Cindy Speak". :tonguewag:

What she said is meant to imply that Casey has nothing to do with men, had an immaculate conception and is still a virgin. :lol: MOO

HA, you are probably right, what was I thinking FGS! :biggrin:

[GumShoeJoe]

There is something very wrong with those people.

That just can't be said too much at every turn of this case, for sure.

[BettyC]

Well, Annie, that makes two of us, but I don't think we were bad mothers.

Sometimes my daughter got up and spilled cereal into her cup and watched cartoons.

I didn't see anything wrong with it, occasionally --and I still don't. Thing is, I spent the other 23 hours with her. That pretty much makes up for cartoon watching alone.

That's not what makes KC and Cindy lousy mothers, the sippy and the cereal and the vids. It's more to do with the trunk of the car, calling it pizza smelling, and of course, the duct tape, which will wind up being the PERIOD at the end of the last sentence of this whole sad story.

We're okay Annie.
:wink:


I agree with you and Annie. Occasionally, nothing wrong with it.

I think it's just because previously George said HE was the one who usually fed her breakfast and basically took care of her in the morning.

It's just the discrepancies in their statements.

[KTBarTheDoor]

Another little mistake ol george made.. When he was talking about the 911 calls . he said he didnt know anything about casey or Caylee he was at work. He talked to Lee and Lee told him when he gets home they need to talk.. UT OH he said cindy told him outside that Caylee. was missing but never said the nanny had taken her. That he remembers..However when cindy was on the phone talkng to 911 you can hear her telling george that Caylee was missing.. Oh boy this smells to high heaven. IMO they all knew and was setting up this little charade period!.. This is all a scam they knew from get go that Caylee was dead and they were trying to cover caseys azz .and they all should be charged with murder... IMO

[Kathlb]

There are no words left for me to describe how I think this entire family failed Caylee.

Here you have george telling how smart Caylee was, could open doors etc and cynthia telling how she would get up in the morning all by herself; where the hell was the concern that Caylee would venture outside while their lazy butts stayed in bed?

They weren't there for Caylee then, and they aren't there for Caylee now, it's disgusting.

This little one never had a fighting chance in this horrendous family.

IMO.

One thing it does, it shows us that their unconcern for protecting her in death and making money off of her is just as it was in her little life. Nothing has changed. :sad:

[need2no]

Another little mistake ol george made.. When he was talking about the 911 calls . he said he didnt know anything about casey or Caylee he was at work. He talked to Lee and Lee told him when he gets home they need to talk.. UT OH he said cindy told him outside that The Nanny had taken Caylee. However when cindy was on the phone talkng to 911 you can hear her telling george that Caylee was missing.. Oh boy this smells to high heaven. IMO they all knew and was setting up this little charade period!.. This is all a scam they knew from get go that Caylee was dead and they were trying to cover caseys azz .and they all should be charged with murder... IMO

Yes, yes, and yes!

[Pierre]

I just heard something strange on WESH local 5 o'clock news orlando.
They were pointing out georges description of why he knew there was pizza in the trunk.
this is not word for word "I knew there was pizza and maggots because you could hear them munching and it sounded like hamburger sizzling."
Think about that: that would be alot of maggots and a 35 lB pizza to have a noise like that.
but it struck me as a crazy statement( I know, everything they say is crazy) but this is different: we know there was no pizza in the box, so it makes me think GA did open Caseys trunk around the gas can time,. and heard what he describes, otherwise how on earth would you create that description?

Ok, going back to find the link.

[5swab5]

Well, Annie, that makes two of us, but I don't think we were bad mothers.

Sometimes my daughter got up and spilled cereal into her cup and watched cartoons.

I didn't see anything wrong with it, occasionally --and I still don't. Thing is, I spent the other 23 hours with her. That pretty much makes up for cartoon watching alone.

That's not what makes KC and Cindy lousy mothers, the sippy and the cereal and the vids. It's more to do with the trunk of the car, calling it pizza smelling, and of course, the duct tape, which will wind up being the PERIOD at the end of the last sentence of this whole sad story.

We're okay Annie.
:wink:


When my Mom was very sick, about to "lose" my brother...money was so tight Daddy HAD to work.

He would set out a lot of things for us and I not only took care of myself, but my Mom. However, I was Five.

Caylee, with 3 healthy adults in that house, IMO....is lucky to have lived as long as she did. Jurors are going to send Casey to the needle, just because they can't punish the grandparents too. AND THEY SHOULD!
IMO

RIP Caylee! :rose:

[5swab5]

Another little mistake ol george made.. When he was talking about the 911 calls . he said he didnt know anything about casey or Caylee he was at work. He talked to Lee and Lee told him when he gets home they need to talk.. UT OH he said cindy told him outside that Caylee. was missing but never said the nanny had taken her. That he remembers..However when cindy was on the phone talkng to 911 you can hear her telling george that Caylee was missing.. Oh boy this smells to high heaven. IMO they all knew and was setting up this little charade period!.. This is all a scam they knew from get go that Caylee was dead and they were trying to cover caseys azz .and they all should be charged with murder... IMO



This is the most upsetting of all.

They know "to a man", that Casey is guilty, but they don't care.

What a SAD society we all live in, that will reward these people enough that they actually quit their jobs to live off of little Caylee's desiccated bones. The "Media" in this Country perpetuates this fiasco! Where is the end?

^^^MOO^^^^

[KTBarTheDoor]

I just heard something strange on WESH local 5 o'clock news orlando.
They were pointing out georges description of why he knew there was pizza in the trunk.
this is not word for word "I knew there was pizza and maggots because you could hear them munching and it sounded like hamburger sizzling."
Think about that: that would be alot of maggots and a 35 lB pizza to have a noise like that.
but it struck me as a crazy statement( I know, everything they say is crazy) but this is different: we know there was no pizza in the box, so it makes me think GA did open Caseys trunk around the gas can time,. and heard what he describes, otherwise how on earth would you create that description?

Ok, going back to find the link.

Its in george's depo.. just read it not too long ago.. Had to be thousand's imo to make that much noise. they all knew Caylee was dead.. IMO they also knew how long it would take for her little body to completely decompose.. By the time anyone called and reported Caylee missing she was already reduced to tiny little bones..IMO

[Explorer]

I just heard something strange on WESH local 5 o'clock news orlando.
They were pointing out georges description of why he knew there was pizza in the trunk.
this is not word for word "I knew there was pizza and maggots because you could hear them munching and it sounded like hamburger sizzling."
Think about that: that would be alot of maggots and a 35 lB pizza to have a noise like that.
but it struck me as a crazy statement( I know, everything they say is crazy) but this is different: we know there was no pizza in the box, so it makes me think GA did open Caseys trunk around the gas can time,. and heard what he describes, otherwise how on earth would you create that description?

Ok, going back to find the link.

OMG Thats horrifying. I think your right. How do those Anthonys sleep at night?

[KTBarTheDoor]

This is the most upsetting of all.

They know "to a man", that Casey is guilty, but they don't care.

What a SAD society we all live in, that will reward these people enough that they actually quit their jobs to live off of little Caylee desiccated bones. The "Media" in this Country perpetuates this fiasco! Where is the end?

^^^MOO^^^^

IMO the end will only come when the whole family is behinds bars and can NOT make a dime off of their crimes. Until then it will continue

[Explorer]

Maybe he did look in the trunk but Caylee was stuffed in there.

[Explorer]

Thats why George wanted to kill himself he couldnt get that sound out of his head.

[KTBarTheDoor]

Thought just slapped me upside my head. The bat phones there was 4 of them.. Wonder if they can prove when they were bought? What if the whole dang family was in contact over those 31 days with the bat phones. then just used the other phones on a limited basis? Waiting hoping car would be stollen. then when it wasnt cindy mistakenly used her reg phone to text casey...They all know prepaid phones cant be traced..no bills no evidence..

[Explorer]

It reminds me once again of the story, "The Tell-Tale Heart".

One of these days (I pray) that man is going to completely lose it and tell the TRUTH!!

I wouldnt be surprised if he went totally insane over this. The smell, the sounds, they dont go away.

[Spots]

IMO the end will only come when the whole family is behinds bars and can NOT make a dime off of their crimes. Until then it will continue

It will continue until we - the general public - stop watching this garbage and refuse to buy from their sponsors.

And by "garbage" I mean all the reality shows in general, as well as the whole "celebrity as bad boy" media reports.

We're buying, so they will keep selling it.

[neid_77]

That just can't be said too much at every turn of this case, for sure.

and that is putting it EXTREMELY lightly this family goes far beyond the
"DIS" in disfunctional...

[5swab5]

IMO the end will only come when the whole family is behinds bars and can NOT make a dime off of their crimes. Until then it will continue

That's the sickest part of all. They KNOW.

Yet they hopped right on the Caylee Gravy Train. No wonder Casey is mad when they only replenish her commissary account when the newspapers report she has a deficit.

Hopefully, the men that were contributing from ALL across the world are now in a padded room.

MOO

[KTBarTheDoor]

It reminds me once again of the story, "The Tell-Tale Heart".

One of these days (I pray) that man is going to completely lose it and tell the TRUTH!!

IMO, That will never happen..IMO this whole dang family just didnt start lying last year this is their way of life. jmho.. Children learn what they live and IMO casey was taught well......

[Pierre]

Thats why George wanted to kill himself he couldnt get that sound out of his head.

OMG your prolly right. And it is his depo, i didnt get that far,but I had the news on but was doing something else.It stopped me in my tracks.
I wouldnt be surprised if Casey just left Caylee in the trunk for someone to find. We sure know she was lazy..... I guess it depends on how spiteful she was feeling.

[BettyC]

Thought just slapped me upside my head. The bat phones there was 4 of them.. Wonder if they can prove when they were bought? What if the whole dang family was in contact over those 31 days with the bat phones. then just used the other phones on a limited basis? Waiting hoping car would be stollen. then when it wasnt cindy mistakenly used her reg phone to text casey...They all know prepaid phones cant be traced..no bills no evidence..

I know someone will correct me if I'm wrong but IIRC it was Jose's idea for them to get these phones. Now I just have to remember where I read this.

How about Jose almost having a conniption during Cindy's depo? He really had to stop her from saying "something."

[Sun]

When I go and get excited about there going to be another court hearing, would you all please just pick up a hammer and beat some sense back into me. Please.

I had hoped to hear what was happening in the criminal check/fraud case, but it seems like all that happened was off camera. And, video feed appeared to be down for the start of the court hearing.


...ok, I'll admit that I did enjoy the part where Casey got up and exited the courtroom. I could hear chains clanking. :wink: