Caylee 10/12, 10/13

[desmom]

Good Morning All!

A lot of talk about Jim Thompson's statement to LE about seeing Casey and Caylee in his computer store around June 9, 2008 and then a week later at Walmart.

I have a couple issues with Mr. Thompson's statement.

statement begins on page 2 http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0929/21146711.pdf

The only date on Mr. Thompson's statement is the notary's date - 7/22/09. A year after Caylee hit the news?

Why would Casey go to a small privately owned computer store and not a big box store like Best Buy? Casey asked if he accepted checks. Now we know Casey was not working and if she stayed true to form, the check would have been stolen or bounced. Wouldn't a small store remember more about the transaction than a big box store?

Mr. Thompson wrote (bottom of page 2), "I specifically remember Casey Anthony rolling her eyes and letting out a distinct "guhh" sound when her daughter Caylee had picked out her beanie baby. The reaction of Casey caught me by surprise and stood out so much that I thought I might have done something wrong and might not be able to give away beanie babies in the future.." Because of the reaction of one parent, he thought he would not be able to give away beanie babies to his customer's children?

On page 3, he wrote, "A week later, the day after fathers day, in the Casselberry Walmart, around lunch time...." IIRC, Casey's cell phone pings put her near the Anthony home at lunch time. It has been speculated because Mr. Thompson is the owner, he may take a late lunch. Mr. Thompson was very thorough explaining the conversation he had with Casey in the store, the beanie baby story and what they were wearing at Walmart. If Mr. Thompson did take a late lunch, wouldn't he have included that in his statement to LE?

I do believe there was a young woman with a toddler in his store and he did see the same woman and toddler at Walmart. How many young women with cute little toddler girls are there in central FL? I also question why he waited to contact LE.

jmo

[Sun]

http://www.wftv.com/video/21253211/index.html

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer talks about the impact of new evidence released in Casey case. (10/09/09)

[desmom]

Good Morning Sun! Great minds - two threads. I tried to delete and it will not let me.

A lot of talk about Jim Thompson's statement to LE about seeing Casey and Caylee in his computer store around June 9, 2008 and then a week later at Walmart.

I have a couple issues with Mr. Thompson's statement.

statement begins on page 2 http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0929/21146711.pdf

The only date on Mr. Thompson's statement is the notary's date - 7/22/09. A year after Caylee hit the news?

Why would Casey go to a small privately owned computer store and not a big box store like Best Buy? Casey asked if he accepted checks. Now we know Casey was not working and if she stayed true to form, the check would have been stolen or bounced. Wouldn't a small store remember more about the transaction than a big box store?

Mr. Thompson wrote (bottom of page 2), "I specifically remember Casey Anthony rolling her eyes and letting out a distinct "guhh" sound when her daughter Caylee had picked out her beanie baby. The reaction of Casey caught me by surprise and stood out so much that I thought I might have done something wrong and might not be able to give away beanie babies in the future.." Because of the reaction of one parent, he thought he would not be able to give away beanie babies to his customer's children?

On page 3, he wrote, "A week later, the day after fathers day, in the Casselberry Walmart, around lunch time...." IIRC, Casey's cell phone pings put her near the Anthony home at lunch time. It has been speculated because Mr. Thompson is the owner, he may take a late lunch. Mr. Thompson was very thorough explaining the conversation he had with Casey in the store, the beanie baby story and what they were wearing at Walmart. If Mr. Thompson did take a late lunch, wouldn't he have included that in his statement to LE?

I do believe there was a young woman with a toddler in his store and he did see the same woman and toddler at Walmart. How many young women with cute little toddler girls are there in central FL? I also question why he waited to contact LE.

jmo

[Sun]

Bill Sheaffer says quite a few interesting things in this Kathi Belich interview. One is that the the defense seems to be destroying their own credibility, and he says that if they do that in front of a jury, Casey is sure to be convicted.

[Sun]

desmom, how like is it that we would both start a thread at the exact same minute?

There should be quite a bit happening later this week in this case. Several motions to be heard on Friday. I'm going to see if I can't repost a few of the links to them.

[desmom]

Bill Sheaffer says quite a few interesting things in this Kathi Belich interview. One is that the the defense seems to be destroying their own credibility, and he says that if they do that in front of a jury, Casey is sure to be convicted.

Bill Sheaffer and Kathi Belich in the same interview! Great duo imo.

He calls the defense "the shifting sands of the desert" - no uniformity, makes them look desperate.

[desmom]

desmom, how like is it that we would both start a thread at the exact same minute?

There should be quite a bit happening later this week in this case. Several motions to be heard on Friday. I'm going to see if I can't repost a few of the links to them.

I sent CW a pm asking her to delete my thread.

Wasn't it mentioned we have a doc dump this week? And we have a motion hearing on Friday?

[Sun]

I sent CW a pm asking her to delete my thread.

Wasn't it mentioned we have a doc dump this week? And we have a motion hearing on Friday?

I saw someone post that we were to get another doc dump later this week, perhaps the bug/plant stuff. I'm going to need to look up the time for the court hearing on Friday, but am thinking that it might be around 9 to 9:30.

[Scampi]

Good morning Sunnie and Des. Thanks for the links. Here is the video of James Thompson again and in this you can clearly see the manual door that Caylee was reported to have struggled with.

http://www.wesh.com/video/21209605/index.html


I don't know if Thompson is legit or not, at the end I did believe him. I hope LE has independent confirmation of his story. Maybe KC bought something at Walmart while she was there? Anywho, I cannot see them putting him on the stand if they do not believe his story.

[BJames]

Good morning to all :smile:

I just finished the last thread and have a question if I might?

I did view the photo of Casey from the back with her tattoo and I got the feeling that she was photgraphed from the front regarding yet another tat?
If I am correct is there a link to the front angle photo?
Many thanks to everyone who keeps this forum up to date, I read almost everyday I just don't post much...altho I can't wait for the trial.

Thanks in advance...

[Sun]

I believe that on the docket for Friday's hearing, is the State's Motion to Strike. If you haven't yet read through the motions, the addendum is the one that Casey swears to the two statements.

Motion to Dismiss Counts I and II of the Indictment
Defense's Motion (9/30/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21163520/detail.html
State's Motion to Strike (10/5/09): http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/1005%20Casey%20Motion.pdf
Defense's Addendum (10/5/09): http://www.wftv.com/news/21231754/%20http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21231942/detail.html

[justsaying]

Good morning to all :smile:

I just finished the last thread and have a question if I might?

I did view the photo of Casey from the back with her tattoo and I got the feeling that she was photgraphed from the front regarding yet another tat?
If I am correct is there a link to the front angle photo?
Many thanks to everyone who keeps this forum up to date, I read almost everyday I just don't post much...altho I can't wait for the trial.

Thanks in advance...
Morning to you. . .I kinda think that they photographed her from the front and her id badge to establish positive identity of the back photos. You know, so the defense can't say that could be anyone's back. That's what I think. I don't post much either.

[Sun]

Good morning Sunnie and Des. Thanks for the links. Here is the video of James Thompson again and in this you can clearly see the manual door that Caylee was reported to have struggled with.

http://www.wesh.com/video/21209605/index.html


I don't know if Thompson is legit or not, at the end I did believe him. I hope LE has independent confirmation of his story. Maybe KC bought something at Walmart while she was there? Anywho, I cannot see them putting him on the stand if they do not believe his story.

Good morning Scampi. His statement did sound likely, however Casey's cell phone pings indicate differently. Either Thompson was wrong on the date of the Walmart visit, or he was mistaken on who he saw. Or, he was making it all up.

[desmom]

Morning to you. . .I kinda think that they photographed her from the front and her id badge to establish positive identity of the back photos. You know, so the defense can't say that could be anyone's back. That's what I think. I don't post much either.

I agree.

pics released by media:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249082/detail.html

[Scampi]

http://www.wftv.com/video/21253211/index.html

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer talks about the impact of new evidence released in Casey case. (10/09/09)

This was a very tough interview to watch. :sad:

I liked the point that Sheaffer made in regards to the three pieces of duct tape placed over the mouth area. This is evidence of cruelty and will be used in the aggravating stage of the penalty phase, when the jurors are deciding the DP.

This trial is going to be a very somber one, I feel sorry for the jurors having to see photos of little Caylee's skull with the duct tape. I know something like that would haunt me forever.....

[Pierre]

Good Morning Sun! Great minds - two threads. I tried to delete and it will not let me.

A lot of talk about Jim Thompson's statement to LE about seeing Casey and Caylee in his computer store around June 9, 2008 and then a week later at Walmart.

I have a couple issues with Mr. Thompson's statement.

statement begins on page 2 http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0929/21146711.pdf

The only date on Mr. Thompson's statement is the notary's date - 7/22/09. A year after Caylee hit the news?

Why would Casey go to a small privately owned computer store and not a big box store like Best Buy? Casey asked if he accepted checks. Now we know Casey was not working and if she stayed true to form, the check would have been stolen or bounced. Wouldn't a small store remember more about the transaction than a big box store?

Mr. Thompson wrote (bottom of page 2), "I specifically remember Casey Anthony rolling her eyes and letting out a distinct "guhh" sound when her daughter Caylee had picked out her beanie baby. The reaction of Casey caught me by surprise and stood out so much that I thought I might have done something wrong and might not be able to give away beanie babies in the future.." Because of the reaction of one parent, he thought he would not be able to give away beanie babies to his customer's children?

On page 3, he wrote, "A week later, the day after fathers day, in the Casselberry Walmart, around lunch time...." IIRC, Casey's cell phone pings put her near the Anthony home at lunch time. It has been speculated because Mr. Thompson is the owner, he may take a late lunch. Mr. Thompson was very thorough explaining the conversation he had with Casey in the store, the beanie baby story and what they were wearing at Walmart. If Mr. Thompson did take a late lunch, wouldn't he have included that in his statement to LE?

I do believe there was a young woman with a toddler in his store and he did see the same woman and toddler at Walmart. How many young women with cute little toddler girls are there in central FL? I also question why he waited to contact LE.

jmo

My Bold;
This guy Marinade Dave went and interviewed Thompson and he has some answers.

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/james-thompson-responds/

It is my opinion that a small business would remember Casey better than a big box store, but I also believe that small business is less likely to prosecute because of the time and atty fees involved. Depending on the amount, it ends up in small claims court and you may win by getting payments of $20 a week.
Big box stores have a loss prevention crew and prolly has retained corporate atty's for these matters.
I believe Thompson but there are some descrepencies that dont seem explainable?
Oh, and good morning!

[Sun]

This was a very tough interview to watch. :sad:

I liked the point that Sheaffer made in regards to the three pieces of duct tape placed over the mouth area. This is evidence of cruelty and will be used in the aggravating stage of the penalty phase, when the jurors are deciding the DP.

This trial is going to be a very somber one, I feel sorry for the jurors having to see photos of little Caylee's skull with the duct tape. I know something like that would haunt me forever.....

No momma should do what Casey did to Caylee. Or what Casey did to her own family and friends.

[desmom]

This was a very tough interview to watch. :sad:

I liked the point that Sheaffer made in regards to the three pieces of duct tape placed over the mouth area. This is evidence of cruelty and will be used in the aggravating stage of the penalty phase, when the jurors are deciding the DP.

This trial is going to be a very somber one, I feel sorry for the jurors having to see photos of little Caylee's skull with the duct tape. I know something like that would haunt me forever.....

I agree. When he spoke of "realizing you are going to die" (paraphrasing), my first thought was she wasn't even 3 years old. Caylee would not know. She would only know the fear and the pain of not enough oxygen. I hope the prosecution pounds that in to the jury's minds during closing arguments.

Maybe those memories are what caused Casey to have those cold sweat night fright dreams Tone mentioned to LE. I hope so. jmo

[Eagleeye]

My Bold;
This guy Marinade Dave went and interviewed Thompson and he has some answers.

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/10/james-thompson-responds/

It is my opinion that a small business would remember Casey better than a big box store, but I also believe that small business is less likely to prosecute because of the time and atty fees involved. Depending on the amount, it ends up in small claims court and you may win by getting payments of $20 a week.
Big box stores have a loss prevention crew and prolly has retained corporate atty's for these matters.
I believe Thompson but there are some descrepencies that dont seem explainable?
Oh, and good morning!

Before you read the above response by James Thompson to Marinade Dave you should read the first interview of Thompson by Dave. Then make up your mind if he is credible. Personally I question his response as to why it took him over a year to come forward. Looking for some publicity for his little Computer store? One can take this guy both ways but his body language leaves me wondering as well as his timing.

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/does-not-compute/

[desmom]

I believe that on the docket for Friday's hearing, is the State's Motion to Strike. If you haven't yet read through the motions, the addendum is the one that Casey swears to the two statements.

Motion to Dismiss Counts I and II of the Indictment
Defense's Motion (9/30/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21163520/detail.html
State's Motion to Strike (10/5/09): http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/1005%20Casey%20Motion.pdf
Defense's Addendum (10/5/09): http://www.wftv.com/news/21231754/%20http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21231942/detail.html

From the State's motion to strike:

"...it appears she was inartfully attempting to ask.."

"The flaws in Miss Anthony's motion are glaring and fatal."

"If and when Miss Anthony decides to swear to any or all material facts, the State of Florida will issue the response required..."

From Defense's Addendum:

I, Casey Marie Anthony, do hereby swear and affirm that the matters contained in the her previously filed Motion to Dismiss Counts I and II of the Indictment, and this Addendum, are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.

I do hereby swear to the following:

1. I did not report my daughter missing until my mother called on July 15, 2008.

2. I did tell law enforcement that I had dropped my child with a person named Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez when questioned by law enforcement.

My opinion -

1. Casey did not report her daughter missing. Cindy reported Caylee missing.

2. And I did take law enforcement all over Orlando showing them where Zenaida used to live, gave them names of people that do not exist, took them to "my place of employment" where I had not worked in over 2 years, did lie about receiving a phone call from my daughter on July 15....

[Eagleeye]

Good morning Sunnie and Des. Thanks for the links. Here is the video of James Thompson again and in this you can clearly see the manual door that Caylee was reported to have struggled with.

http://www.wesh.com/video/21209605/index.html


I don't know if Thompson is legit or not, at the end I did believe him. I hope LE has independent confirmation of his story. Maybe KC bought something at Walmart while she was there? Anywho, I cannot see them putting him on the stand if they do not believe his story.

If you read Marinade Dave's links above, he says that those are not the manual doors Thompson was talking about. The manual door that Thompson claims Caylee had trouble with was an interior door between the front doors and the store. This is just one of the flies in the ointment of Thompson's story.

[Neffy]

From the State's motion to strike:

"...it appears she was inartfully attempting to ask.."

"The flaws in Miss Anthony's motion are glaring and fatal."

"If and when Miss Anthony decides to swear to any or all material facts, the State of Florida will issue the response required..."

From Defense's Addendum:

I, Casey Marie Anthony, do hereby swear and affirm that the matters contained in the her previously filed Motion to Dismiss Counts I and II of the Indictment, and this Addendum, are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.

I do hereby swear to the following:

1. I did not report my daughter missing until my mother called on July 15, 2008.

2. I did tell law enforcement that I had dropped my child with a person named Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez when questioned by law enforcement.

My opinion -

1. Casey did not report her daughter missing. Cindy reported Caylee missing.

2. And I did take law enforcement all over Orlando showing them where Zenaida used to live, gave them names of people that do not exist, took them to "my place of employment" where I had not worked in over 2 years, did lie about receiving a phone call from my daughter on July 15....

3. And I did tell LE and accompanied them to a place I claimed to work but really didn't work at which I claimed to have needed and used a Nanny for in the first place.

[sammy62]

someone stated last night that this computer guy thompson may have contacted the police right away. They said he was on the prosecution list. Does anyone have that list handy?

[Eagleeye]

3. And I did tell LE and accompanied them to a place I claimed to work but really didn't work at which I claimed to have needed and used a Nanny for in the first place.

Isn't that what des was referring to in her #2 ? How is the petition going? LOL

[Eagleeye]

someone stated last night that this computer guy thompson may have contacted the police right away. They said he was on the prosecution list. Does anyone have that list handy?

Thompson is on the Prosecution Witness List but they don't know if they are going to use him. Something just doesn't ring true with this guy.

[Sun]

From the State's motion to strike:

"...it appears she was inartfully attempting to ask.."
"The flaws in Miss Anthony's motion are glaring and fatal."
"If and when Miss Anthony decides to swear to any or all material facts, the State of Florida will issue the response required..."

From Defense's Addendum:

I, Casey Marie Anthony, do hereby swear and affirm that the matters contained in the her previously filed Motion to Dismiss Counts I and II of the Indictment, and this Addendum, are true to the best of my knowledge and belief.

I do hereby swear to the following:
1. I did not report my daughter missing until my mother called on July 15, 2008.
2. I did tell law enforcement that I had dropped my child with a person named Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez when questioned by law enforcement.

My opinion -

1. Casey did not report her daughter missing. Cindy reported Caylee missing.

2. And I did take law enforcement all over Orlando showing them where Zenaida used to live, gave them names of people that do not exist, took them to "my place of employment" where I had not worked in over 2 years, did lie about receiving a phone call from my daughter on July 15....

Thanks so much for posting those "sworn statements!" You were reading my mind, but I just ran out of time to type them out.

I'm just completely confused as to how Baez thinks that these two statements by Casey, would fulfill the requirements of his motion. He says that the motion is based mostly on the lab report results, and Casey's statements have absolutely nothing to do in support of that.

Me'thinks that it could get quite interesting in the court on Friday. Judge Strickland has remained completely professional throughout, and I expect that he may manage to also do so even when faced with a motion like this one (the State's response is on the docket, but I noticed that no mention of the original motion being heard on Friday. Not quite sure what they means)

[need2no]

someone stated last night that this computer guy thompson may have contacted the police right away. They said he was on the prosecution list. Does anyone have that list handy?


This list is from January, so of course it doesn't include Thompson. I haven't seen a more recent list, but there may be one out there somewhere:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3884493/casey-anthony-prosecution-witness-list-jan-2009

[Pierre]

Before you read the above response by James Thompson to Marinade Dave you should read the first interview of Thompson by Dave. Then make up your mind if he is credible. Personally I question his response as to why it took him over a year to come forward. Looking for some publicity for his little Computer store? One can take this guy both ways but his body language leaves me wondering as well as his timing.

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/does-not-compute/

Thompson says he kept calling the hotline and nobody called him back. I tend to believe this as per Kronk not being able to get someone to call him back too.

[sammy62]

This list is from January, so of course it doesn't include Thompson. I haven't seen a more recent list, but there may be one out there somewhere:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3884493/casey-anthony-prosecution-witness-list-jan-2009

that answers my question...that he didn't come forward earlier on.

[need2no]

that answers my question...that he didn't come forward earlier on.

Found this.

Sprocket says he was added to the prosecution witness list in August.
Unfortunately she didn't provide a link to the updated list.

From Jim Thompson's statement to Marinade Dave:

I don’t have a tv because I don’t like to watch all the bad news. Low and behold the one story I click on the internet to read about in November 2008 is about some girl who looks familiar to me for some reason and when i read the story to find out why it is hearbreaking. I didn’t wait a year to tell my story. I called the numbers we were supposed to call several times, left my information several times and no one called me back. I finally had to go to the local police department to make a statement just to get the pressure off my chest.

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/

[Neffy]

Thanks so much for posting those "sworn statements!" You were reading my mind, but I just ran out of time to type them out.

I'm just completely confused as to how Baez thinks that these two statements by Casey, would fulfill the requirements of his motion. He says that the motion is based mostly on the lab report results, and Casey's statements have absolutely nothing to do in support of that.

Me'thinks that it could get quite interesting in the court on Friday. Judge Strickland has remained completely professional throughout, and I expect that he may manage to also do so even when faced with a motion like this one (the State's response is on the docket, but I noticed that no mention of the original motion being heard on Friday. Not quite sure what they means)


Yes, seems like quite the filler for "something" needed.

[desmom]

Thanks so much for posting those "sworn statements!" You were reading my mind, but I just ran out of time to type them out.

I'm just completely confused as to how Baez thinks that these two statements by Casey, would fulfill the requirements of his motion. He says that the motion is based mostly on the lab report results, and Casey's statements have absolutely nothing to do in support of that.

Me'thinks that it could get quite interesting in the court on Friday. Judge Strickland has remained completely professional throughout, and I expect that he may manage to also do so even when faced with a motion like this one (the State's response is on the docket, but I noticed that no mention of the original motion being heard on Friday. Not quite sure what they means)

Judge Strickland deserves an award for his patience. I often wonder if he returns to office after some of these motion hearings and ROTFL or bangs in head against the wall in frustration. jmo

[Eagleeye]

Thompson says he kept calling the hotline and nobody called him back. I tend to believe this as per Kronk not being able to get someone to call him back too.

For over a year this guy held this information and didn't drive down to the OCSD and bang on the desk saying I have information about Caylee Anthony. If this were true they may have found Caylee a hell of a lot sooner. I don't believe him now for a minute as I think she was dead by 4:00 pm on the 16th. :angry:

[desmom]

Found this.

Sprocket says he was added to the prosecution witness list in August.
Unfortunately she didn't provide a link to the updated list.

From Jim Thompson's statement to Marinade Dave:

I don’t have a tv because I don’t like to watch all the bad news. Low and behold the one story I click on the internet to read about in November 2008 is about some girl who looks familiar to me for some reason and when i read the story to find out why it is hearbreaking. I didn’t wait a year to tell my story. I called the numbers we were supposed to call several times, left my information several times and no one called me back. I finally had to go to the local police department to make a statement just to get the pressure off my chest.

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/

Okay so he didn't wait a year. He waited 8 months.

November 2008 - July 22, 2009

[farrahrani]

As far as a large chain store versus a small store, I have a question:

Wouldn't a large store be able to verify funds much faster than a small store? I remember a few years ago going with a relative to a store and them trying to pass off a check. It was scanned in a machine, and a minute later she was told there was insufficient funds and she would have to find another method of payment. Looking back now I realize it was her intention to have me pay all along, but at the time it was hugely embarrassing.

Also, some stores are a little more lenient about accepting checks. If Casey had intended to use one of her stolen checks, either Amy or maybe someone else's, they might have just copied her driver's license and accepted the check. Since it (the check) wasn't hers, there would be dispute as to who would be responsible.

[Neffy]

Okay so he didn't wait a year. He waited 8 months.

November 2008 - July 22, 2009

hmmmmm, credibilty-o-meter is taking a dive.

[Neffy]

As far as a large chain store versus a small store, I have a question:

Wouldn't a large store be able to verify funds much faster than a small store? I remember a few years ago going with a relative to a store and them trying to pass off a check. It was scanned in a machine, and a minute later she was told there was insufficient funds and she would have to find another method of payment. Looking back now I realize it was her intention to have me pay all along, but at the time it was hugely embarrassing.

Also, some stores are a little more lenient about accepting checks. If Casey had intended to use one of her stolen checks, either Amy or maybe someone else's, they might have just copied her driver's license and accepted the check. Since it wasn't hers, there would be dispute as to who would be responsible.


I was at a furniture store a few years back. Purchased a sofa and loveseat and attempted to write a check. They didn't even scan it but saw it was a new account and turned it down on that basis. Now here's the kicker. They did accept my debit card that is attached to my checking account. What the heck. Same account two different methods used to access it.

Just purchased new cell phones and plans at Best Buy. Ran a credit check within like 2 seconds to see If a deposit was required.
I guess bad credit you need a deposit?

I also work part time for a private Dr's office. We can verify credit cards/debit cards but not checks in like 2 seconds.

[Eagleeye]

Okay so he didn't wait a year. He waited 8 months.

November 2008 - July 22, 2009

A year, eight months, too damn long des, if you ask me. What was he waiting for?

[need2no]

Okay so he didn't wait a year. He waited 8 months.

November 2008 - July 22, 2009


I guess not, but 8 months is still a long time. Interesting he says he has no TV, but he is a huge football fan (Redskins). I guess he watches the games at a sports bar. :shrug:

He is a link to where Jim Thompson and Sean Henady were added to the witness list in August, 2009:


http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20547663/detail.html

[Eagleeye]

I was at a furniture store a few years back. Purchases a sofa and loveseat and attempted to write a check. They didn't even scan it but saw it was a new account and turned it down on that basis. Now here's the kicker. They did accept my debit card that is attached to my checking account. What the heck. Same account two different methods used to access it.

Simply because it takes 24 to 48 hours for a check to clear and a debit card is instant. Once a bad check is taken the customer is long gone.

[MGM111]

Simply because it takes 24 to 48 hours for a check to clear and a debit card is instant. Once a bad check is taken the customer is long gone.

Good Morning...

IMO..I dont think casey was actually intending to purchase a monitor..I think she may have been just wasting time until george left for work..then she could drive back to the house.....

[Sun]

Judge Strickland deserves an award for his patience. I often wonder if he returns to office after some of these motion hearings and ROTFL or bangs in head against the wall in frustration. jmo

chuckles... that's exactly what I have imagined him doing when he first reads motions from the defense. I've prayed many, many times for Judge Strickland to have the patience needed to professionally deal during the court hearings. Don't know if it helps, but it sure can't hurt! I just hope that he doesn't retire before this case goes to trial.

[Neffy]

Good Morning...

IMO..I dont think casey was actually intending to purchase a monitor..I think she may have been just wasting time until george left for work..then she could drive back to the house.....

Now that I'm really thinking about it's this part of the story that I'm doubting now (after reading everyone else). Although is story is plausible for someone, it's not plausible for Casey. Should he'd have said she was looking for a laptop it'd be one thing. But a monitor?

[msgatorslayer]

A year, eight months, too damn long des, if you ask me. What was he waiting for?

Especially if he thought he had important information on the case like LE had the wrong date. That he was positive he had seen Caylee after the Anthony's.

You would think if nobody called him back from Crimeline, etc, he would make a point to park his butt at the OCSO information desk and demand to speak to a detective in the case.

[desmom]

A year, eight months, too damn long des, if you ask me. What was he waiting for?

I have no idea. Dannnnngggg if I realized in November a missing child had been in my store around the time she disappeared, I do not think I would be making a phone call. I would be making a one-on-one appt or visit with one of the officers involved in the case. If he was able to read about the case on the internet, he could have surely tracked down the investigators names. It is not like the detectives names have been a big secret in this investigation.

I do not see LE ignoring a tip in November 2008 of a June 16, 2008 sighting of Caylee because she was still missing at that time. Also, it was a big box store with security videos in the store and usually the parking lot. I think if LE had received this tip in November 2008, they would have been all over Walmart's videos because it would have narrowed the time line.

jmo

[msgatorslayer]

Good Morning...

IMO..I dont think casey was actually intending to purchase a monitor..I think she may have been just wasting time until george left for work..then she could drive back to the house.....

I don't think Casey had to waste time going anywhere to wait for someone to leave the house.

She worked alot from home on her puter as an Event Planner. :rolleyes:

When she wanted to party and she needed a sitter, she'd ask her parents to watch Caylee while she attended an 'event' for work.

FGS, the girl even told her parents, when the Fusion pics were released that she was there working. Making sure her friends had a good time, lmao.

[Steps]

Before you read the above response by James Thompson to Marinade Dave you should read the first interview of Thompson by Dave. Then make up your mind if he is credible. Personally I question his response as to why it took him over a year to come forward. Looking for some publicity for his little Computer store? One can take this guy both ways but his body language leaves me wondering as well as his timing.

http://marinadedave.wordpress.com/2009/10/08/does-not-compute/

I believe that the prosecution will not bring this man into the trial. They don't need him!! I am concerned about his waiting so long to come forward with his story. If they would bring him on there might be someone out there to come forward and dispute his testimony. Unfortunately, some people just want their 15 minutes of fame! Not worth the risk when it isn't going to help the case that much! MOO, of course!

[Eagleeye]

I have no idea. Dannnnngggg if I realized in November a missing child had been in my store around the time she disappeared, I do not think I would be making a phone call. I would be making a one-on-one appt or visit with one of the officers involved in the case. If he was able to read about the case on the internet, he could have surely tracked down the investigators names. It is not like the detectives names have been a big secret in this investigation.

I do not see LE ignoring a tip in November 2008 of a June 16, 2008 sighting of Caylee because she was still missing at that time. Also, it was a big box store with security videos in the store and usually the parking lot. I think if LE had received this tip in November 2008, they would have been all over Walmart's videos because it would have narrowed the time line.

jmo

des, For Lords sake, this guy is a computer geek. You can't tell me he didn't know more about this case and all the media coverage in Orlando. This guy just doesn't pass the smell test. Maybe I will call him today and see how business is now that he has his fifteen minutes of fame.

[need2no]

Now that I'm really thinking about it's this part of the story that I'm doubting now (after reading everyone else). Although is story is plausible for someone, it's not plausible for Casey. Should he'd have said she was looking for a laptop it'd be one thing. But a monitor?



Someone suggested perhaps casey was going to purchase the monitor with a stolen check, and later return it for the cash. I think that theory has some merit. Of course many stores have a 10 day hold on returns when you write a check so they can be sure the check is good. But then again, maybe casey didn't think of that, or perhaps she thought she'd bull doze over the guy in a little mom & pop type store demanding a refund, or even flirt her way into getting the refund before the 10 days was up. If this was her plan, I don't think it mattered what she wanted to purchase since she didn't plan to keep it anyway. Maybe she thought it was more likely he'd take a check for something cheaper, like a monitor, rather than an expensive laptop.

Beats me, and frankly his story leaves me with a lot of questions and wondering how any of this could possibly be true.

[msgatorslayer]

Someone suggested perhaps casey was going to purchase the monitor with a stolen check, and later return it for the cash. I think that theory has some merit. Of course many stores have a 10 day hold on returns when you write a check so they can be sure the check is good. But then again, maybe casey didn't think of that, or perhaps she thought she'd bull doze over the guy in a little mom & pop type store demanding a refund, or even flirt her way into getting the refund before the 10 days was up. If this was her plan, I don't think it mattered what she wanted to purchase since she didn't plan to keep it anyway. Maybe she thought it was more likely he'd take a check for something cheaper, like a monitor, rather than an expensive laptop.

Beats me, and frankly his story leaves me with a lot of questions and wondering how any of this could possibly be true.

She cashed one of Amy's checks for 'cash' though, if she needed money, instead of making a bogus purchase with the intent of returning it for cash, why not do what she had already done? Make the check out to herself and cash it.

[desmom]

She cashed one of Amy's checks for 'cash' though, if she needed money, instead of making a bogus purchase with the intent of returning it for cash, why not do what she had already done? Make the check out to herself and cash it.

The family must have locked up their checkbooks and extra checks where Casey could not access them. jmo

[Barbara fl.]

I have no idea. Dannnnngggg if I realized in November a missing child had been in my store around the time she disappeared, I do not think I would be making a phone call. I would be making a one-on-one appt or visit with one of the officers involved in the case. If he was able to read about the case on the internet, he could have surely tracked down the investigators names. It is not like the detectives names have been a big secret in this investigation.

I do not see LE ignoring a tip in November 2008 of a June 16, 2008 sighting of Caylee because she was still missing at that time. Also, it was a big box store with security videos in the store and usually the parking lot. I think if LE had received this tip in November 2008, they would have been all over Walmart's videos because it would have narrowed the time line.

jmo


Goo morning everyone,

That's justhow I feel Desmom, why would he have waited so long to come forward with this info...I personally do not believe him...and I don't think that LE is putting too much credibility to his story either....jmo

[msgatorslayer]

The family must have locked up their checkbooks and extra checks where Casey could not access them. jmo

But the JC card was fair game, lol.

I would have locked everything up. Including Caylee's piggy bank. :smile:

[Neffy]

But the JC card was fair game, lol.

I would have locked everything up. Including Caylee's piggy bank. :smile:

What a way to live. The enemy within

[SayItAgain]

Bill Sheaffer says quite a few interesting things in this Kathi Belich interview. One is that the the defense seems to be destroying their own credibility, and he says that if they do that in front of a jury, Casey is sure to be convicted.

I mentioned this the other day when I listed to Shaeffer's interview, too, about the defense's credibility. That's something I find jaw-dropping about this case -- the fact the defense doesn't seem to comprehend the importance of having credibility.

With regard to that, first we've got Baez -- enough said. :scared:

Then we've got Linda K-B, who seems to be phoning it in except when there's an opportunity to go on a morning show.

We've got Henry Lee and ... enough said there, also. :rolleyes:

We've got Todd Macaluso with Bar problems in his home state, and who became the focal point in this case by stating in open court the defense had irrefutable proof Caylee was placed on Suburban while Casey was in jail.

Then we've got the supposed savior of the dream team, Andrea Lyon, who has also screamed of Casey's "innocence" from the courthouse steps, accused the state of putting the DP back on the table as a "strategy," who also seems to be phoning it in, and whose most recent motions are just an embarrassment coming from such a highly respected attorney.

I keep waiting for this team to get its act together and really show us something. I'm about done waiting, because I just don't think it's ever gonna happen.

And I am just :ohmy: at the prospect this group is going to perform in front of a jury the way they've performed thus far preparing their case. Are you kidding me? Imo, the jury will quickly catch on to the defense team's complete lack of credibility, and they will be insulted and offended this group is trying to run a game on them. That won't bode well for the defendant or her family, imo. They'll all appear cut from the same untrustworthy, INcredible cloth.

A defense strategy designed to offend sensibilities and insult the intelligence of the courtroom. I just don't get it.

[Neffy]

Just the sheer number of Attorney's is always a red flag to me let alone the big names and out-of-towners.

[MGM111]

But the JC card was fair game, lol.

I would have locked everything up. Including Caylee's piggy bank. :smile:

FGS...can you imagine living with somone who steals from you..the entire family..and could care less how it effects everyone - financially/mentally....why cindy accepted that behaviour is just beyond me.

[alisa31235]

Good morning all... I am curious as to what George and Cindy have been doing I haven`t seen or heard anything. I wonder if they will be in court Friday we know Casey has to be. I also wonder what George and Cindy thought of there daughters tatoo that she got while she was conducting her own investigation but it could have been part of the script has Jose ever mentioned that script? IMO

[desmom]

But the JC card was fair game, lol.

I would have locked everything up. Including Caylee's piggy bank. :smile:

That has never made sense to me. They knew Casey was stealing, but did nothing to stop her.

George told the FBI http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20224461/detail.html

page 31 beginning on line 20

FBI: Where was the money coming from in your mind? And...

George: Oh she was taking money from her mother's account.

FBI: How did she have access to it?

George: Um, she could take money right offline. She was using my wife's credit cards.

page 32

George: Ste..taking money form my wife's purse....
twenty dollars, forty dollars maybe more then that at a time.

FBI: You started to use a word there that you hesitated in you started to say st.. and you stopped.

George: Steal.

On page 33, George told the FBI "she took a small quarter collection....she's been taking money from my granddaughter's bank".

Why the heck didn't they do something to stop Casey from stealing? jmo

[Sun]

I mentioned this the other day when I listed to Shaeffer's interview, too, about the defense's credibility. That's something I find jaw-dropping about this case -- the fact the defense doesn't seem to comprehend the importance of having credibility.

With regard to that, first we've got Baez -- enough said. :scared:

Then we've got Linda K-B, who seems to be phoning it in except when there's an opportunity to go on a morning show.

We've got Henry Lee and ... enough said there, also. :rolleyes:

We've got Todd Macaluso with Bar problems in his home state, and who became the focal point in this case by stating in open court the defense had irrefutable proof Caylee was placed on Suburban while Casey was in jail.

Then we've got the supposed savior of the dream team, Andrea Lyon, who has also screamed of Casey's "innocence" from the courthouse steps, accused the state of putting the DP back on the table as a "strategy," who also seems to be phoning it in, and whose most recent motions are just an embarrassment coming from such a highly respected attorney.

I keep waiting for this team to get its act together and really show us something. I'm about done waiting, because I just don't think it's ever gonna happen.

And I am just :ohmy: at the prospect this group is going to perform in front of a jury the way they've performed thus far preparing their case. Are you kidding me? Imo, the jury will quickly catch on to the defense team's complete lack of credibility, and they will be insulted and offended this group is trying to run a game on them. That won't bode well for the defendant or her family, imo. They'll all appear cut from the same untrustworthy, INcredible cloth.

A defense strategy designed to offend sensibilities and insult the intelligence of the courtroom. I just don't get it.

Wow SayItAgain, when you list out the characters like this, I'm brought to the realization of just what type of drama we may all be facing come trial time.

[Sun]

That has never made sense to me. They knew Casey was stealing, but did nothing to stop her.

George told the FBI http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20224461/detail.html

page 31 beginning on line 20

FBI: Where was the money coming from in your mind? And...

George: Oh she was taking money from her mother's account.

FBI: How did she have access to it?

George: Um, she could take money right offline. She was using my wife's credit cards.

page 32

George: Ste..taking money form my wife's purse....
twenty dollars, forty dollars maybe more then that at a time.

FBI: You started to use a word there that you hesitated in you started to say st.. and you stopped.

George: Steal.

On page 33, George told the FBI "she took a small quarter collection....she's been taking money from my granddaughter's bank".

Why the heck didn't they do something to stop Casey from stealing? jmo

That is a good question! I suspect that George didn't do more, because his status in the family was more along the lines of a "boarder" rather than a father or husband. Cindy was in control of "her" household, and what resulted was a disasterous ending for Caylee. I do suspect that George and Casey argued quite often, if they even talked to each other at all.

[msgatorslayer]

That is a good question! I suspect that George didn't do more, because his status in the family was more along the lines of a "boarder" rather than a father or husband. Cindy was in control of "her" household, and what resulted was a disasterous ending for Caylee. I do suspect that George and Casey argued quite often, if they even talked to each other at all.

I think Cindy kept things from George about Casey.

And both women thought less of George, enough so, that he didn't count for anything. Treating him like he was stupid, but he seen what was going on.

[Pierre]

des, For Lords sake, this guy is a computer geek. You can't tell me he didn't know more about this case and all the media coverage in Orlando. This guy just doesn't pass the smell test. Maybe I will call him today and see how business is now that he has his fifteen minutes of fame.

I dont know the guy and im not defending his actions but you would be surprised how many people in orlando area do not know who Casey Anthony is??? I have a small business and I ask alot of people and they are clueless! I think they must be living under a rock.
The way the Anthonys blame anyone that they can would make anyone not want to get involved. But, I dont think thats his reason.
We will probally never know if he is telling the truth or not.
I think Caylee had a hard time leaving HIS shop, as it makes more sense that Casey, after the BBaby she left and left Caylee behind in his store??? IDK

But it is a fact that nobody called Kronk back and they were downright rude to him when he kept persisting.

I do know to scan a check at a small business you must have a seperate dedicated phone line.

I tend to believe him, he has turned down TV interviews; today show etc.

[cassidy]

Why the heck didn't they do something to stop Casey from stealing? jmo


Snipped for space.

That the part the just boggles my mind. I don't know how they could live in a house iwth a kid they couldn't trust and NOT lock up their accounts and their credit cards. After the 1st time, she wasn't stealing, they were giving her access knowingly. Why Cindy didn't protect HER parents is beyond me. Amazing.

JMO

[Justice4all]

I would love to know how the defense said with a straight face the duct tapes didn't match.

[SayItAgain]

FGS...can you imagine living with somone who steals from you..the entire family..and could care less how it effects everyone - financially/mentally....why cindy accepted that behaviour is just beyond me.

Imo, Casey's behavior didn't stick out like it would in a normally functioning family. The Anthonys were busy folks, running games on one another, forming ever-changing alliances among themselves, spending money they either didn't have or shouldn't have been wasting on *stuff* based on their financial predicament at the time Caylee went "missing."

George was <ahem> fiscally irresponsible.

Cynthia, while the primary breadwinner, clearly spent a LOT of her earnings shopping for non-essential *stuff* as is evidenced by Casey's 23 pair of shoes (that we know of). Caylee with her 23 pair of sunglasses, for starters. Plastic storage boxes stacked to the rafters and crammed full of *stuff* ... the bedrooms so crammed full of *stuff* it's a wonder they could find their beds to lie down in them.

George was playing online with either gambling or <ahem> Nigerian scams or both. Someone was playing online at escort service sites. He's running all these games behind Cindy's back, meanwhile Cindy's carving up George to her mother behind his back.

Casey was busying aligning with one parent against the other for whatever suited her purposes at any given moment. And we've got Casey outside the house, talking trash about her parents, with Cindy running around to Casey's friends, talking trash about her, rather than confronting her directly about her lifestyle

Then we've got Lee and Casey and their unholy alliance, the details of which I'm happier not knowing.

Just a snakepit, that household. Casey was just one of the snakes in the pit, and not a particular stand out, imo, until mid June 2008.

[BlueTurtle]

I believe that the prosecution will not bring this man into the trial. They don't need him!! I am concerned about his waiting so long to come forward with his story. If they would bring him on there might be someone out there to come forward and dispute his testimony. Unfortunately, some people just want their 15 minutes of fame! Not worth the risk when it isn't going to help the case that much! MOO, of course!


I am pretty sure they checked out his story thoroughly. If they had not, then the defense would have a hey day. They most likely will not call him since they probably have evidence from Walmart that showed Casey and Caylee were not there at the time he specified.

[BlueTurtle]

Wow SayItAgain, when you list out the characters like this, I'm brought to the realization of just what type of drama we may all be facing come trial time.

From what I understand, since Florida has all the witnesses deposed before the trial, there should be no surprises. It has tended to reduce the dramatics and Perry Mason type of occurrences from happening.

I also feel that the Judge will be keeping a tight lid.

[Eagleeye]

//snipped//

I do know to scan a check at a small business you must have a seperate dedicated phone line.

I tend to believe him, he has turned down TV interviews; today show etc.

If I were him, I would turn down any interviews as well. He will just get tripped up further in his statements. He had his fifteen minutes and now he should disappear from all this.

[Eagleeye]

Seems to me that by calling this man, one might be seeking their own 15 minutes of fame.

imo

Give that a rest res, I was only kidding.

[trich]

Good morning Scampi. His statement did sound likely, however Casey's cell phone pings indicate differently. Either Thompson was wrong on the date of the Walmart visit, or he was mistaken on who he saw. Or, he was making it all up.

You know what this reminds me of:
When neighbors of Laci Peterson insisted they saw her
walking the dog aat such and such time.
It was proven that they had their days mixed up .

But I really don't believe this guy saw Casey and Caylee .
Also why in heavens name did he wait until over a year to
make this statement?
That to me alone destroys his credibility.

[SayItAgain]

From what I understand, since Florida has all the witnesses deposed before the trial, there should be no surprises. It has tended to reduce the dramatics and Perry Mason type of occurrences from happening.

I also feel that the Judge will be keeping a tight lid.

I'm personally not concerned about drama. I'm just stunned by the lack of credibility on the part of Team Casey so far. I can't fathom what this defense team is hoping to accomplish. Imo, they underestimate the intelligence and instincts of juries at their peril -- Casey's in particular.

[Pierre]

If I were him, I would turn down any interviews as well. He will just get tripped up further in his statements. He had his fifteen minutes and now he should disappear from all this.

You mean like the Anthony's?

[Eagleeye]

You mean like the Anthony's?

Exactly! :biggrin:

[need2no]

I mentioned this the other day when I listed to Shaeffer's interview, too, about the defense's credibility. That's something I find jaw-dropping about this case -- the fact the defense doesn't seem to comprehend the importance of having credibility.

With regard to that, first we've got Baez -- enough said. :scared:

Then we've got Linda K-B, who seems to be phoning it in except when there's an opportunity to go on a morning show.

We've got Henry Lee and ... enough said there, also. :rolleyes:

We've got Todd Macaluso with Bar problems in his home state, and who became the focal point in this case by stating in open court the defense had irrefutable proof Caylee was placed on Suburban while Casey was in jail.

Then we've got the supposed savior of the dream team, Andrea Lyon, who has also screamed of Casey's "innocence" from the courthouse steps, accused the state of putting the DP back on the table as a "strategy," who also seems to be phoning it in, and whose most recent motions are just an embarrassment coming from such a highly respected attorney.

I keep waiting for this team to get its act together and really show us something. I'm about done waiting, because I just don't think it's ever gonna happen.

And I am just :ohmy: at the prospect this group is going to perform in front of a jury the way they've performed thus far preparing their case. Are you kidding me? Imo, the jury will quickly catch on to the defense team's complete lack of credibility, and they will be insulted and offended this group is trying to run a game on them. That won't bode well for the defendant or her family, imo. They'll all appear cut from the same untrustworthy, INcredible cloth.

A defense strategy designed to offend sensibilities and insult the intelligence of the courtroom. I just don't get it.


Love it Say!

If I might be so bold as to add to your thoughts.

Baez-inexperienced, non death qualified attorney, licorice sharing, smirky guy who puts his foot in his mouth every time he opens it, and has a problem keeping his hands to himself

Linda K-B-thinks the louder she shouts the more convincing she is of her point, some may not get her point anyway due to looking at her hair and attire

Henry Lee-evidence hider, blood spitting guy who sometimes forgets he has an accent, but heavy accent shows up when he doesn't like the question

Malcaluso-hot head who forgets to engage his brain before he puts his mouth in gear, perhaps because he seems a bit smitten with casey marie (this may change if he has seen the tattoo photos)

Lyons-stated casey was innocent even before she (admittedly) had time to read up on the case, is said to use tears to sway the jury

What a dream team!

[msgatorslayer]

You know what this reminds me of:
When neighbors of Laci Peterson insisted they saw her
walking the dog aat such and such time.
It was proven that they had their days mixed up .

But I really don't believe this guy saw Casey and Caylee .
Also why in heavens name did he wait until over a year to
make this statement?
That to me alone destroys his credibility.

If you notice in LE interviews with everyone, most can be 100% positive on dates and such. They have stories to tell but have a hard time narrowing down an exact date unless something significant happened on that day.

Except the Anthony's, of course. Their notebooks and calenders are full of dates that they claim are FACTS, lol.

[SayItAgain]

You mean like the Anthony's?

Now, now Pierre. That's what we call wishful thinking. The Anthonys have many more 15 minute segments on their calendars. Why, this very Saturday, viewers will be treated to at least another 15 minutes of Anthony spin, compliments of 48 Hours Mystery. The family of the alleged baby killer gets all the air time they want to lie, deceive, mislead, spin and spin some more. Everyone else should just STHU, I guess. :shrug:

[desmom]

I dont know the guy and im not defending his actions but you would be surprised how many people in orlando area do not know who Casey Anthony is??? I have a small business and I ask alot of people and they are clueless! I think they must be living under a rock.
The way the Anthonys blame anyone that they can would make anyone not want to get involved. But, I dont think thats his reason.
We will probally never know if he is telling the truth or not.
I think Caylee had a hard time leaving HIS shop, as it makes more sense that Casey, after the BBaby she left and left Caylee behind in his store??? IDK

But it is a fact that nobody called Kronk back and they were downright rude to him when he kept persisting.

I do know to scan a check at a small business you must have a seperate dedicated phone line.

I tend to believe him, he has turned down TV interviews; today show etc.

BBM -

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1223/18347536.pdf

LE did respond on August 11. The media reported by the time LE arrived Kronk had left. They arrived 30 minutes after he called in.

He called back on August 12 around 9:00 p.m. LE did meet with Kronk, but could not access the area at the time and advised Kronk to call them when he could meet with them. He was also advised to call Crimeline. IMO, the reason they could not access the area was because it was 9:30 p.m. and dark.

He called on August 13 to advise he was available to meet with LE. The bag was identified as "trash only".

jmo

[Pierre]

Love it Say!

If I might be so bold as to add to your thoughts.

Baez-inexperienced, non death qualified attorney, licorice sharing, smirky guy who puts his foot in his mouth every time he opens it, and has a problem keeping his hands to himself

Linda K-B-thinks the louder she shouts the more convincing she is of her point, some may not get her point anyway due to looking at her hair and attire

Henry Lee-evidence hider, blood spitting guy who sometimes forgets he has an accent, but heavy accent shows up when he doesn't like the question

Malcaluso-hot head who forgets to engage his brain before he puts his mouth in gear, perhaps because he seems a bit smitten with casey marie (this may change if he has seen the tattoo photos)

Lyons-stated casey was innocent even before she (admittedly) had time to read up on the case, is said to use tears to sway the jury

What a dream team!

Hey great team!, but you forgot LKB's "junk science" and her husband who changes the law of physic's as needed. LOL

[KatieLady]

BBM -

http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1223/18347536.pdf

LE did respond on August 11. The media reported by the time LE arrived Kronk had left. They arrived 30 minutes after he called in.

He called back on August 12 around 9:00 p.m. LE did meet with Kronk, but could not access the area at the time and advised Kronk to call them when he could meet with them. He was also advised to call Crimeline. IMO, the reason they could not access the area was because it was 9:30 p.m. and dark.

He called on August 13 to advise he was available to meet with LE. The bag was identified as "trash only".

jmo

Morning desmom...

Didn't he claim that he called either LE or the tip line before that? Or am I not remembering that correctly?

[bhardy1956]

Okay so he didn't wait a year. He waited 8 months.

November 2008 - July 22, 2009


What I get out of his statment is that he didn't wait 8 months, he didn't know about the casey anthony case until after 8 months. He doesn't watch much TV, and heard about it after 8 months this whole case came about.
I think he sounds credible, but I will wait to see if that is confirmed to me. IMO

[Eagleeye]

I'm personally not concerned about drama. I'm just stunned by the lack of credibility on the part of Team Casey so far. I can't fathom what this defense team is hoping to accomplish. Imo, they underestimate the intelligence and instincts of juries at their peril -- Casey's in particular.

Maybe the prosecution should take the death penalty off the table and offer Casey to make an Alford Plea, put herself at the mercy of the court and get this over with. Then there would be no need of a COV and no need of a jury trial. Food for thought??

[desmom]

I would love to know how the defense said with a straight face the duct tapes didn't match.

I was searching for any new information about the investigation and found an article Blink did about the duct tape. Interesting reading.

part 1 http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/10/02/cayleecasey-anthony-case-brad-baez-and-baden-cant-read/

part 2 http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/10/03/cayleecasey-anthony-case-friction-ridges-duct-tape-and-suds/

(before c & p any info from her page, please note the disclaimer at the top of the article.)

[bhardy1956]

I dont know the guy and im not defending his actions but you would be surprised how many people in orlando area do not know who Casey Anthony is??? I have a small business and I ask alot of people and they are clueless! I think they must be living under a rock.
The way the Anthonys blame anyone that they can would make anyone not want to get involved. But, I dont think thats his reason.
We will probally never know if he is telling the truth or not.
I think Caylee had a hard time leaving HIS shop, as it makes more sense that Casey, after the BBaby she left and left Caylee behind in his store??? IDK

But it is a fact that nobody called Kronk back and they were downright rude to him when he kept persisting.

I do know to scan a check at a small business you must have a seperate dedicated phone line.

I tend to believe him, he has turned down TV interviews; today show etc.

I feel the same way, I do too tend to believe him. He didn't wait 8 months, he found out 8 months later about casey and then called the hotline, and no one answered, and then went down to the police station to make his statment of what he witnessed. IMO

[desmom]

Morning desmom...

Didn't he claim that he called either LE or the tip line before that? Or am I not remembering that correctly?

I don't think so. IIIRC, August 11, 2008 is the first day Roy Kronk worked that route.

jmo

[KittyMom]

des, For Lords sake, this guy is a computer geek. You can't tell me he didn't know more about this case and all the media coverage in Orlando. This guy just doesn't pass the smell test. Maybe I will call him today and see how business is now that he has his fifteen minutes of fame.

Being a computer geek doesn't mean someone is uptodate on local happenings. My hubby has the title of computer guru in our town. He can tell you anything you want to know about the newest tech stuff available. He can describe the innards of computers, servers, databases, firewalls, service providers, etc. He is also interested in cars. He can tell you all the spects on the lastest sports cars at the local dealerships. He can compare them to other current cars and to "classic" cars right down to the how many lugnuts hold the tires on. But ask him about local news...you'll hear crickets.

[KatieLady]

I don't think so. IIIRC, August 11, 2008 is the first day Roy Kronk worked that route.

jmo

Thanks desmom....you're the best! :wub:

There were so many people claiming (Cindy for one) that their tips went unanswered I guess I confused myself lol

[sammy62]

You know one thing that always has surprised me about this story is that when Cindy has to bail out the car at the impound lot, she had 500.00 in her savings. When we were working, and raising a family, that poor car would have sat there a long time until we scraped 500.00 together.

[charmin 66]

Good morning Sunnie and Des. Thanks for the links. Here is the video of James Thompson again and in this you can clearly see the manual door that Caylee was reported to have struggled with.

http://www.wesh.com/video/21209605/index.html


I don't know if Thompson is legit or not, at the end I did believe him. I hope LE has independent confirmation of his story. Maybe KC bought something at Walmart while she was there? Anywho, I cannot see them putting him on the stand if they do not believe his story.

Thompson wrote in his statement

"I remember thinking the last thing I needed in my life was involvement with another bad mother or heartless female as I have had my share of those."

I just don't know what to make of this guy. I haven't seen any other statements that Casey was cold or mean to Caylee in the public eye.

[sammy62]

Thompson wrote in his statement

"I remember thinking the last thing I needed in my life was involvement with another bad mother or heartless female as I have had my share of those."

I just don't know what to make of this guy. I haven't seen any other statements that Casey was cold or mean to Caylee in the public eye.

I agree with you. I am always amazed that everyone (even great grandma) says that Casey was a caring and loving mother.

[Pierre]

I don't think so. IIIRC, August 11, 2008 is the first day Roy Kronk worked that route.

jmo

Well someone was diciplined for their lack of interest(not wanting to go into the woods and look) and rudeness.
Cain I believe?? it seems like forever ago.

[desmom]

What I get out of his statment is that he didn't wait 8 months, he didn't know about the casey anthony case until after 8 months. He doesn't watch much TV, and heard about it after 8 months this whole case came about.
I think he sounds credible, but I will wait to see if that is confirmed to me. IMO

Thompson not knowing Caylee was missing is not surprising. I have a lot of friends like Thompson who do not take a newspaper or watch the news. Occasionally they will look at the news on the internet.

Thompson said he heard about the case in November 2008. That would have been 4 months after Caylee was reported missing. He said he called the appropriate number. It bothered him because no one called back so he went to the police department and gave a written statement. The written statement is dated July 22, 2009 - 8 months after he first learned Caylee was missing.

jmo

[SayItAgain]

Thompson wrote in his statement

"I remember thinking the last thing I needed in my life was involvement with another bad mother or heartless female as I have had my share of those."

I just don't know what to make of this guy. I haven't seen any other statements that Casey was cold or mean to Caylee in the public eye.

Not in front of people she knew. I think that's the distinction. In front of anyone who mattered, she put on her Mother of the Year show. My guess, based on what we know of Casey, what we've seen in Caylee's eyes in so many pictures, and the fact the baby is dead, is that how Casey treated Caylee when no one important was looking, was a very different "show" than the one she performed in front of family and friends.

[Eagleeye]

Being a computer geek doesn't mean someone is uptodate on local happenings. My hubby has the title of computer guru in our town. He can tell you anything you want to know about the newest tech stuff available. He can describe the innards of computers, servers, databases, firewalls, service providers, etc. He is also interested in cars. He can tell you all the spects on the lastest sports cars at the local dealerships. He can compare them to other current cars and to "classic" cars right down to the how many lugnuts hold the tires on. But ask him about local news...you'll hear crickets.

Kitty, I hope he isn't reading this blog. No roses in his hand when he comes home from work tonight. :biggrin::rose:

[SayItAgain]

I agree with you. I am always amazed that everyone (even great grandma) says that Casey was a caring and loving mother.

This is how abusers get away with abusing. They don't do it front of anyone who counts. My stepfather looked like husband and stepdad of the year in front of his family, friends, coworkers. When the door to our house closed behind him? Not so much.

This type of thing goes on all day, every day. Believe it.

[Pierre]

Kitty, I hope he isn't reading this blog. No roses in his hand when he comes home from work tonight. :biggrin::rose:

Silly, He's on the puter wired, or classic car blogs.

[Pierre]

Thompson not knowing Caylee was missing is not surprising. I have a lot of friends like Thompson who do not take a newspaper or watch the news. Occasionally they will look at the news on the internet.

Thompson said he heard about the case in November 2008. That would have been 4 months after Caylee was reported missing. He said he called the appropriate number. It bothered him because no one called back so he went to the police department and gave a written statement. The written statement is dated July 22, 2009 - 8 months after he first learned Caylee was missing.

jmo

I was asking about that last week; if the notary could notarize on a different day than the statement? Just asking IDK.

[bhardy1956]

Thompson not knowing Caylee was missing is not surprising. I have a lot of friends like Thompson who do not take a newspaper or watch the news. Occasionally they will look at the news on the internet.

Thompson said he heard about the case in November 2008. That would have been 4 months after Caylee was reported missing. He said he called the appropriate number. It bothered him because no one called back so he went to the police department and gave a written statement. The written statement is dated July 22, 2009 - 8 months after he first learned Caylee was missing.

jmo

desmom, thanks for clearing that up for me! Ok, he waited 8 months after finding out Caylee was missing? Now, I find him a little suspect. You would think that he would be watching more of the case on TV after finding out that this little girl he saw is missing and the mom is in jail for it, especially with what he said about how casey treated her. Hummmm, he sounds so credible though, I will wait and see.

[Ladyhawk]

You know one thing that always has surprised me about this story is that when Cindy has to bail out the car at the impound lot, she had 500.00 in her savings. When we were working, and raising a family, that poor car would have sat there a long time until we scraped 500.00 together.

The reason they (or she if you prefer) had money IRRC is according to George, their IRS stimulus check had just arrived and he put it in the bank the Monday before they picked up the car. Don't know how much the check was for but it was probably the full $1200. They very well could have not had the cash to pay the reclaim fee prior to the arrival of that check.

[MorningGlory]

Not in front of people she knew. I think that's the distinction. In front of anyone who mattered, she put on her Mother of the Year show. My guess, based on what we know of Casey, what we've seen in Caylee's eyes in so many pictures, and the fact the baby is dead, is that how Casey treated Caylee when no one important was looking, was a very different "show" than the one she performed in front of family and friends.

Yes, and all of her friends said she worked as an event planner at Universal also. She kept up the front she wanted others to see. It seemed it was important to her to have others think she had a snazzy job, took good care of her child and her nanny, and was still able to be the life of the party. "I'm a w-o-m-a-n"...jmo

[KittyMom]

Kitty, I hope he isn't reading this blog. No roses in his hand when he comes home from work tonight. :biggrin::rose:

Oh, I completely understand that he has his interests. And he understands that my eyes glaze over when he starts talking SD ram, links sis, and intake manifolds. He lets me have my crime boards and I leave him to his car boards. It works. :thumbsup:

[Neffy]

I was asking about that last week; if the notary could notarize on a different day than the statement? Just asking IDK.

Yes especially if you know them.

[SayItAgain]

Yes, and all of her friends said she worked as an event planner at Universal also. She kept up the front she wanted others to see. It seemed it was important to her to have others think she had a snazzy job, took good care of her child and her nanny, and was still able to be the life of the party. "I'm a w-o-m-a-n"...jmo

:laugh: "I bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan ... " :laugh:

[Neffy]

Yes, and all of her friends said she worked as an event planner at Universal also. She kept up the front she wanted others to see. It seemed it was important to her to have others think she had a snazzy job, took good care of her child and her nanny, and was still able to be the life of the party. "I'm a w-o-m-a-n"...jmo

LOL Everything but the unemployed, irresponsible piggybank thief she was that never finished high school. How humiliating is that.

[Pierre]

Thompson not knowing Caylee was missing is not surprising. I have a lot of friends like Thompson who do not take a newspaper or watch the news. Occasionally they will look at the news on the internet.

Thompson said he heard about the case in November 2008. That would have been 4 months after Caylee was reported missing. He said he called the appropriate number. It bothered him because no one called back so he went to the police department and gave a written statement. The written statement is dated July 22, 2009 - 8 months after he first learned Caylee was missing.

jmo

I didnt see a date on the statement but the date was on the notary.

[need2no]

She cashed one of Amy's checks for 'cash' though, if she needed money, instead of making a bogus purchase with the intent of returning it for cash, why not do what she had already done? Make the check out to herself and cash it.

Too risky? Scared?

Oh heck, I don't buy Thompson's story anyway.

I went back and took a good look at his sworn statement and plucked out a few things from his statment to LE:

She said she was shopping for an LCD monitor. She specifically asked about connecting an external monitor to a laptop computer. < don't suppose he read online that casey had a laptop, he, he. I told her any monitor I sold her would do that if her laptop had an external video port and I would show her how.

(In reference to Caylee)-I said she was a very pretty girl and asked her name. She said her name was Calee.< wouldn't be hard to find this information, too bad he spelled it wrong

I continued to discuss prices of monitors with Casey Anthony. I told her I could match or beat anyone’s price, <*nice advertising comment thrown in * but if I didn’t have what she wanted in stock, she would have to pay for it now and come back later to pick it up because I had to pick it up myself from my wholesaler.

With regards to the computer monitor I gave her several options and prices. She decided on an Acer 22” that I would normally sell for $300, that I would sell to her for either $250 or $275 ( I can’t remember exact amount now). She asked if I accepted checks, I said no but I could take debit and credit cards. Casey Anthony said she would have to wait to buy the monitor. <don't suppose he read about casey passing bad checks, he, he

Based on casey’s reaction to him offering a beanie baby to Caylee: he thought he might have done something wrong, and might not be able to give away beanie babies in the future. <WTH, because of casey's reaction he would change his routine of giving out BB's, LK- weird statement :confused:

Casey Anthony was coming out of one of the INTERIOR Walmart doors as I was coming in. <Interesting he thought to add INTERIOR, must be a detail kinda guy, even though he spelled Caylee's name wrong :wink:

This day was significant as it was the day after Father’s day, and because of that I remember thinking the last thing I needed in my life was _______ with another bad mother or heartless female as I have had my share of those. So as a result of my observations and thoughts I kept walking into Walmart without stopping Casey Anthony to say hello. < WTH, it sounds like he was contemplating a relationship with casey after she came in his computer store scantily clad as a customer one time! Sounds like this guy has some 'issues' with females in general, maybe 'issues' in general. Mother complex? Been dumped a few times. Desperate to find himself a good woman! So because he doesn't need this kind of woman in his life he couldn't just say hi, and/or help Caylee with the big heavy door- Lord have mercy, this is just bizzare.


I would have made a statement earlier but I didn’t think what I witnessed was important until now. <* No mention of calling the hotline, or LE directly* hmmmm....

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0929/21146711.pdf

[jessie]

That has never made sense to me. They knew Casey was stealing, but did nothing to stop her.

George told the FBI http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20224461/detail.html

page 31 beginning on line 20

FBI: Where was the money coming from in your mind? And...

George: Oh she was taking money from her mother's account.

FBI: How did she have access to it?

George: Um, she could take money right offline. She was using my wife's credit cards.

page 32

George: Ste..taking money form my wife's purse....
twenty dollars, forty dollars maybe more then that at a time.

FBI: You started to use a word there that you hesitated in you started to say st.. and you stopped.

George: Steal.

On page 33, George told the FBI "she took a small quarter collection....she's been taking money from my granddaughter's bank".

Why the heck didn't they do something to stop Casey from stealing? jmo Once Caylee was born, Casey had them right where she wanted them and they knew it. Cindy told her in one of the jailhouse visits that if she got out she would not have to work. So they, especially Cindy, knew what was going on.

[desmom]

I was asking about that last week; if the notary could notarize on a different day than the statement? Just asking IDK.

http://notaries.dos.state.fl.us/education/faq/index.html

May I notarize a signature without the person being present if another person swears that the person signed the document?

No! .....

[Neffy]

http://notaries.dos.state.fl.us/education/faq/index.html

May I notarize a signature without the person being present if another person swears that the person signed the document?

No! .....

That's by the book. Real life YES it can happen.

[KittyMom]

I still can't believe that Cindy has stayed away from the media as long as she has. She must be looking at a windfall. Only money could keep that woman's mouth closed for this long.

[Eagleeye]

Too risky? Scared?

Oh heck, I don't buy Thompson's story anyway.

I went back and took a good look at his sworn statement and plucked out a few things from his statment to LE:

She said she was shopping for an LCD monitor. She specifically asked about connecting an external monitor to a laptop computer. < don't suppose he read online that casey had a laptop, he, he. I told her any monitor I sold her would do that if her laptop had an external video port and I would show her how.

(In reference to Caylee)-I said she was a very pretty girl and asked her name. She said her name was Calee.< wouldn't be hard to find this information, too bad he spelled it wrong

I continued to discuss prices of monitors with Casey Anthony. I told her I could match or beat anyone’s price, <*nice advertising comment thrown in * but if I didn’t have what she wanted in stock, she would have to pay for it now and come back later to pick it up because I had to pick it up myself from my wholesaler.

With regards to the computer monitor I gave her several options and prices. She decided on an Acer 22” that I would normally sell for $300, that I would sell to her for either $250 or $275 ( I can’t remember exact amount now). She asked if I accepted checks, I said no but I could take debit and credit cards. Casey Anthony said she would have to wait to buy the monitor. <don't suppose he read about casey passing bad checks, he, he

Based on casey’s reaction to him offering a beanie baby to Caylee: he thought he might have done something wrong, and might not be able to give away beanie babies in the future. <WTH, because of casey's reaction he would change his routine of giving out BB's, LK- weird statement :confused:

Casey Anthony was coming out of one of the INTERIOR Walmart doors as I was coming in. <Interesting he thought to add INTERIOR, must be a detail kinda guy, even though he spelled Caylee's name wrong :wink:

This day was significant as it was the day after Father’s day, and because of that I remember thinking the last thing I needed in my life was _______ with another bad mother or heartless female as I have had my share of those. So as a result of my observations and thoughts I kept walking into Walmart without stopping Casey Anthony to say hello. < WTH, it sounds like he was contemplating a relationship with casey after she came in his computer store scantily clad as a customer one time! Sounds like this guy has some 'issues' with females in general, maybe 'issues' in general. Mother complex? Been dumped a few times. Desperate to find himself a good woman! So because he doesn't need this kind of woman in his life he couldn't just say hi, and/or help Caylee with the big heavy door- Lord have mercy, this is just bizzare.


I would have made a statement earlier but I didn’t think what I witnessed was important until now. <* No mention of calling the hotline, or LE directly* hmmmm....

http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0929/21146711.pdf

Excellent dissection of his comments. And no one can tell me he didn't research her on the net and blogs before he brought this tale to the LE and Media. How would he know from two supposed encounters with Casey that she was a "bad mother or heartless female." to say nothing about the fact he got the doors totally wrong. Marinade Dave proved that.

[desmom]

Too risky? Scared?

Oh heck, I don't buy Thompson's story anyway.

I went back and took a good look at his sworn statement and plucked out a few things from his statment to LE:

--snipped to address--

I continued to discuss prices of monitors with Casey Anthony. I told her I could match or beat anyone’s price, <*nice advertising comment thrown in * but if I didn’t have what she wanted in stock, she would have to pay for it now and come back later to pick it up because I had to pick it up myself from my wholesaler.

With regards to the computer monitor I gave her several options and prices. She decided on an Acer 22” that I would normally sell for $300, that I would sell to her for either $250 or $275 ( I can’t remember exact amount now). She asked if I accepted checks, I said no but I could take debit and credit cards. Casey Anthony said she would have to wait to buy the monitor. <don't suppose he read about casey passing bad checks, he, he


http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0929/21146711.pdf

BBM - IMO, that is a little high for an Acer 22" LCD monitor.

[SayItAgain]

I guess I hope Thompson's story isn't true. Because if it is, and he's just a concerned citizen but a bit of an odd duck with a few dates confused, he's being hammered mercilessly. And I mean, mercilessly.

I imagine, if his story is true, at this point he wishes he'd never given a statement.

I don't see how his statement has given him a thing but grief. I feel for the guy.

[desmom]

That's by the book. Real life YES it can happen.

Oh, I am sure it does.

Would LE take that risk with a witness statement?

:shrug:

[need2no]

I still can't believe that Cindy has stayed away from the media as long as she has. She must be looking at a windfall. Only money could keep that woman's mouth closed for this long.

Ah, but she has her cameo appearance coming up Saturday night on 48 Hours. In my area last Saturday nights 48 Hours show was preempted by a football game, I sure hope that doesn't happen this week, or I'd be forced to watch it later when it shows up online.

[impartial]

Excellent dissection of his comments. And no one can tell me he didn't research her on the net and blogs before he brought this tale to the LE and Media. How would he know from two supposed encounters with Casey that she was a "bad mother or heartless female." to say nothing about the fact he got the doors totally wrong. Marinade Dave proved that.


I agree.

The other thing is, toddlers like to be independant. When my boys were that age, they wanted to open their own doors, and even wanted to open the door for me. To automatically conclude that Casey is a heartless mother from one incident of Caylee opening a door is a major leap.

imo

[bhardy1956]

I agree with you. I am always amazed that everyone (even great grandma) says that Casey was a caring and loving mother.

If this guy is speaking the truth, I can see casey not caring what this stranger to her thinks of her. He wasn't part of her circle of friends and family, he was a stranger that she thought she would never see again. So, I can see her being mean and unaffectionate to Caylee. IMO

[summer]

Hi All! Jumping in after only reading a few comments but wow... I completely believe the guy, down to the Walmart doors and the cleavage and the calling the tip line and getting no response. Officer Richard Cain, anyone? How many times do we hear about tips being ignored in other cases... happens all too frequently... especially high profile ones.

[SayItAgain]

I agree.

The other thing is, toddlers like to be independant. When my boys were that age, they wanted to open their own doors, and even wanted to open the door for me. To automatically conclude that Casey is a heartless mother from one incident of Caylee opening a door is a major leap.

imo

Two incidents. One at his computer store. One at WalMart. June 9th and June 16th, respectively.

[summer]

ETA (edit function isn't working): I don't think the monitor is an issue. The woman is a complete and total liar. She could've asked to see a 60 inch Plasma TV or whatever. She was all b.s. anyway.

[summer]

You know one thing that always has surprised me about this story is that when Cindy has to bail out the car at the impound lot, she had 500.00 in her savings. When we were working, and raising a family, that poor car would have sat there a long time until we scraped 500.00 together.

Hey sammy, another thing that flips me out is her absolute panic stricken voice on the THIRD 911 call. So upset she sounded. And yet she didn't call LE from the tow yard. Makes not one shred of sense.

[summer]

I guess I hope Thompson's story isn't true. Because if it is, and he's just a concerned citizen but a bit of an odd duck with a few dates confused, he's being hammered mercilessly. And I mean, mercilessly.

I imagine, if his story is true, at this point he wishes he'd never given a statement.

I don't see how his statement has given him a thing but grief. I feel for the guy.

That's how I feel too. He's being raked over the coals everywhere (and I understand it's just the way us obsessives about this case examine things but sheesh!)

[need2no]

Excellent dissection of his comments. And no one can tell me he didn't research her on the net and blogs before he brought this tale to the LE and Media. How would he know from two supposed encounters with Casey that she was a "bad mother or heartless female." to say nothing about the fact he got the doors totally wrong. Marinade Dave proved that.

Thanks.

ITA, Thompson didn't state anything that couldn't easily be found online. Plus he zeroed in on the most obvious and telling things, like laptop, JEALOUSLY of daughter, checks, scantily dressed showing cleavage, and so on. Yes, he made quite a few quick assumptions based on one encounter with casey and Caylee...jealously of daughter in addition to bad mother, heartless female.

After re-reading his sworn statement, and Marinade Dave's investigation, I don't see how anyone could believe Thompson's story holds water.

Not to mention in his written statement to LE he failed to mention previously making phone calls to report this incident, and not getting a return call.

[summer]

Maybe the prosecution should take the death penalty off the table and offer Casey to make an Alford Plea, put herself at the mercy of the court and get this over with. Then there would be no need of a COV and no need of a jury trial. Food for thought??

It's a death penalty case IMO. Why should the prosecution give her any kind of plea? There's no remorse. Nothing but high-fives and attitude. If this is not a DP case then the DP should be abolished in this country period. I wouldn't have a problem with that personally as I don't like the DP. But if it's the law of the land for certain henious crimes then this fits like a glove.

[Sun]

Hey sammy, another thing that flips me out is her absolute panic stricken voice on the THIRD 911 call. So upset she sounded. And yet she didn't call LE from the tow yard. Makes not one shred of sense.

Cindy only made that last 911 call AFTER Casey said that "someone else" had taken Caylee. Do you think that Cindy would have made those 911 calls, if Casey had told Cindy that "she" killed Caylee?

[SayItAgain]

Cindy only made that last 911 call AFTER Casey said that "someone else" had taken Caylee. Do you think that Cindy would have made those 911 calls, if Casey had told Cindy that "she" killed Caylee?

Not a snowball's chance in hell, imo.

[summer]

Cindy only made that last 911 call AFTER Casey said that "someone else" had taken Caylee. Do you think that Cindy would have made those 911 calls, if Casey had told Cindy that "she" killed Caylee?

Nope Sun. Nope. That's why I don't believe the panic in Cindy's voice when she finally reported. It took me a long time to come to this because I felt that was the only true statement to come out of Cindy's mouth in this entire case.

I don't think she had anything to do with the actual murder although I do think she's responsible in many other ways so she must be a truly good actress. I'm stumped, honestly.

Nope. She wouldn't have called.

[need2no]

BBM - IMO, that is a little high for an Acer 22" LCD monitor.

You're right Des, I just checked Target, :biggrin: and they have 22" Acer monitors ranging in price from $169.99 to $199.00 (widescreen).
Interesting...thanks for mentioning this. Remind me not to shop at Thompson's store for my computer needs. :wink:

[SayItAgain]

It's a death penalty case IMO. Why should the prosecution give her any kind of plea? There's no remorse. Nothing but high-fives and attitude. If this is not a DP case then the DP should be abolished in this country period. I wouldn't have a problem with that personally as I don't like the DP. But if it's the law of the land for certain henious crimes then this fits like a glove.

Hey sis, welcome back. :seeya:

If I understand things correctly, the defense can approach the state at any time with a plea offer. I don't think there's a chance the state will approach the defense.

But I could be wrong. If I am, I hope to be corrected. More and more I'm feeling a plea offer is in the wind. Surely the defense sees the hopelessness of their case more clearly than we do? :scared:

[need2no]

Cindy only made that last 911 call AFTER Casey said that "someone else" had taken Caylee. Do you think that Cindy would have made those 911 calls, if Casey had told Cindy that "she" killed Caylee?

No way Jose.

sorry, couldn't resist!

[MisterGrey]

BBM - IMO, that is a little high for an Acer 22" LCD monitor.
If Casey wasn't in jail now she could purchase one at Walmart Supercenter#890, on E Colonial Dr, Orlando for a mere $168.00 and they are in stock!!!

"Save money, live better."

[need2no]

Hey sis, welcome back. :seeya:

If I understand things correctly, the defense can approach the state at any time with a plea offer. I don't think there's a chance the state will approach the defense.

But I could be wrong. If I am, I hope to be corrected. More and more I'm feeling a plea offer is in the wind. Surely the defense sees the hopelessness of their case more clearly than we do? :scared:

BBM

Nah, not necessarily...ignorance is bliss.

[summer]

Hey sis, welcome back. :seeya:

If I understand things correctly, the defense can approach the state at any time with a plea offer. I don't think there's a chance the state will approach the defense.

But I could be wrong. If I am, I hope to be corrected. More and more I'm feeling a plea offer is in the wind. Surely the defense sees the hopelessness of their case more clearly than we do? :scared:

Hiya sis... well stranger things have happened and I guess if the perp suddenly changes her entire affect and the state wants to expedite this and save money it's possible. I think they're digging their heels in on this one -- and she's making it easy on them because she's so hardcore.

btw, one more Thompson thought. I'm betting LE has dug out his prior ignored calls to the hot line and corroborated his story. Also I'm chagrined to read comments about him doing this because he wants business in his store. I think that's beyond the pale myself and so far what has he done to deserve such condemnation?

[Eagleeye]

It's a death penalty case IMO. Why should the prosecution give her any kind of plea? There's no remorse. Nothing but high-fives and attitude. If this is not a DP case then the DP should be abolished in this country period. I wouldn't have a problem with that personally as I don't like the DP. But if it's the law of the land for certain henious crimes then this fits like a glove.

You didn't read my comment thoroughly. I suggested that the prosecution take the DP off the table and offer an Alford Plea. I doubt that she would accept it but it surely would save the taxpayers a hell of a lot of money for a trial. I am guessing by now that Andrea Lyon is wishing she never took this one on as she is going to loose it for sure. Accepting an Alford Plea would give AL a graceful way out and save her reputation.

[need2no]

If Casey wasn't in jail now she could purchase one at Walmart Supercenter#890, on E Colonial Dr, Orlando for a mere $168.00 and they are in stock!!!

"Save money, live better."

:laugh:

But remember...Thompson will meet or beat any price! Of course when you are spending someone else's money, or writing a worthless check, who cares how much something costs.

[Eagleeye]

You're right Des, I just checked Target, :biggrin: and they have 22" Acer monitors ranging in price from $169.99 to $199.00 (widescreen).
Interesting...thanks for mentioning this. Remind me not to shop at Thompson's store for my computer needs. :wink:

Well he did say that he would have to go to his wholesaler to pick it up. Higher price=cost of gas to and from. :wink:

[Eagleeye]

Hiya sis... well stranger things have happened and I guess if the perp suddenly changes her entire affect and the state wants to expedite this and save money it's possible. I think they're digging their heels in on this one -- and she's making it easy on them because she's so hardcore.

btw, one more Thompson thought. I'm betting LE has dug out his prior ignored calls to the hot line and corroborated his story. Also I'm chagrined to read comments about him doing this because he wants business in his store. I think that's beyond the pale myself and so far what has he done to deserve such condemnation?

My bold:

Opening his mouth way late in the game and not having his facts straight.

[SayItAgain]

Hiya sis... well stranger things have happened and I guess if the perp suddenly changes her entire affect and the state wants to expedite this and save money it's possible. I think they're digging their heels in on this one -- and she's making it easy on them because she's so hardcore.

btw, one more Thompson thought. I'm betting LE has dug out his prior ignored calls to the hot line and corroborated his story. Also I'm chagrined to read comments about him doing this because he wants business in his store. I think that's beyond the pale myself and so far what has he done to deserve such condemnation?

You could be right about her still being dug in. By the way, have you had a chance to see the stunning pictures of her tattoo yet? :scared: If not, report back when you do. It's conceivable those pics, now spread like wildfire across the internet, have changed her attitude about how bullet proof she is. Seriously. Hot no longer, is she.

I've seen worse about poor Thompson than you pointed out, unfortunately. I'm leaving him in a similar category as Kronk until I learn more about his story. Good citizens or people with ulterior motives? YOU be the judge. :laugh:

[trich]

I feel the same way, I do too tend to believe him. He didn't wait 8 months, he found out 8 months later about casey and then called the hotline, and no one answered, and then went down to the police station to make his statment of what he witnessed. IMO

It is my belief that he has his dates confused if indeed she did
go to his store and then he saw same at wal mart a week later.
How do you remember the exact date when you supposedly were not even aware of who this person was for 8 months?
Just like I don't believe for a minute George remember the exact clothes Caylee and Casey had on the last time he supposedly saw them.

I have not seen my son and his family since August ....I would not even be able to guess what he had on then when he left my house.

[saydeezmom]

If Casey wasn't in jail now she could purchase one at Walmart Supercenter#890, on E Colonial Dr, Orlando for a mere $168.00 and they are in stock!!!

"Save money, live better."

thats just it; she didn't care how much it costs b/c it wasn't her money!

did the thompson guy say what caylee was wearing? he remembered casey, what about caylee?

about the phone pings...casey was resourceful...maybe she left her cell at mom's and bought a pay as you go phone at the walmart?

jmo

[Scampi]

The reason they (or she if you prefer) had money IRRC is according to George, their IRS stimulus check had just arrived and he put it in the bank the Monday before they picked up the car. Don't know how much the check was for but it was probably the full $1200. They very well could have not had the cash to pay the reclaim fee prior to the arrival of that check.

Good memory Lady. I wonder if george and cynthia thought it odd that a stimulus check didn't arrive for their hard working daughter?

[DeeN]

Thanks for that link.

Question, so, there were 3 pieces of duct tape wrapped around Caylee's mouth?

Is that correct?

http://www.wftv.com/video/21253211/index.html

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer talks about the impact of new evidence released in Casey case. (10/09/09)

[Scampi]

I can't wait to see this program! The Anthonys will attempt their spin, of course, but 48 Hours Mystery will show both sides of this case and it will not bode favourably for that family.

I'm sure Cindy will be in shock that they "twisted" all her "facts" around to make it look bad for Casey. C'est la vie, Cindy! :laugh:

......alas, the bella vita is no more!


:thumbup:

[Pierre]

That's how I feel too. He's being raked over the coals everywhere (and I understand it's just the way us obsessives about this case examine things but sheesh!)

Maybe because I have a small business also..that What Thompson says does not sound out of the ordinary to me.
My products can be found at home depot cheaper too, but its the service that goes along with the product that warrants people to pay a little more from an independent dealer. Maybe he includes the cord? and Some people just do not like to support the big box stores. Anyway Im sure casey wasnt thinking about any of that. I think she was killing time. MOO
His statement does not prove any bombshells in my opinion anyway.

Jeez, Kronk was part of a "Daisey Chain" if I remember correctly, and everyone questioned why he kept going into the woods, and why would anyone pee there, but as far as we know hes not part of any such thing.

[cuddlyrunner]

Would someone explain to me what a stimulus check is please? I don't think we have them over here !

[Pierre]

Good memory Lady. I wonder if george and cynthia thought it odd that a stimulus check didn't arrive for their hard working daughter?

Its a wonder their hard working daughter didnt get the Stimulus check first!
Casey and GA prolly raced eachother to the mailbox every day while Cindy was working.

[kakax]

Would someone explain to me what a stimulus check is please? I don't think we have them over here !



Under the Bush Administration, stimulus checks were sent out to people who pay taxes. It was $600 a person. I think there were more than one of these to help stimulate the economy.

[Pierre]

Now, now Pierre. That's what we call wishful thinking. The Anthonys have many more 15 minute segments on their calendars. Why, this very Saturday, viewers will be treated to at least another 15 minutes of Anthony spin, compliments of 48 Hours Mystery. The family of the alleged baby killer gets all the air time they want to lie, deceive, mislead, spin and spin some more. Everyone else should just STHU, I guess. :shrug:

Well because of all the "change" goin round I no longer have cable so I wont be able to see that. :(
I dont miss NG and the one who yells and pushes her recovery book though.

[cuddlyrunner]

Under the Bush Administration, stimulus checks were sent out to people who pay taxes. It was $600 a person. I think there were more than one of these to help stimulate the economy.

Thank you x

[sammy62]

Hey sammy, another thing that flips me out is her absolute panic stricken voice on the THIRD 911 call. So upset she sounded. And yet she didn't call LE from the tow yard. Makes not one shred of sense.

I've heard convincing arguments on both sides of whether cindy knew as early as june 16. this is going to be an interesting trial to follow.

[Pierre]

Hey sammy, another thing that flips me out is her absolute panic stricken voice on the THIRD 911 call. So upset she sounded. And yet she didn't call LE from the tow yard. Makes not one shred of sense.

George is the one who should not have driven the car from the lot. I dont think Cindy knew how bad the smell was until they got home.

[crimeq]

someone stated last night that this computer guy thompson may have contacted the police right away. They said he was on the prosecution list. Does anyone have that list handy?

Hi Sammy, I read somewhere that he attempted to contact police numerous times and didn't get a callback. Finally he went to the police station himself to give his statement.

[LadyHam]

Hey sis, welcome back. :seeya:

If I understand things correctly, the defense can approach the state at any time with a plea offer. I don't think there's a chance the state will approach the defense.

But I could be wrong. If I am, I hope to be corrected. More and more I'm feeling a plea offer is in the wind. Surely the defense sees the hopelessness of their case more clearly than we do? :scared:

I think the defense knows the hopelessness of their case, but I also think they are bound and determined to see this case through the trial. They are in this for the publicity anyway, so they have nothing to lose by taking this to trial. The defense team themselves may also want to take a plea deal, but there is no way that Casey does. She will take all her secrets to her grave and even when the overwhelming evidence of her guilt is shown at trial, Casey will still be singing the tune that she is 100% innocent.:rolleyes:

[jammies]

We were discussing the sensors on automatic doors last night....

I JUST came from Babies R Us and the EXACT the scenario I put forth last night happened. I bought my merchandise and was about to exit the store when lo and behold, right in front of me was a little girl, no more than 2-3, standing at the AUTOMATIC doors. Her mother was on the OTHER SIDE and not until I walked up and set off the sensor did that door open.

another bizarre incident: was in another store searching for baby things and was checking out the winter baby hats. The ONLY ones they had for boys said "Here Comes Trouble". And NO I didn't buy one. yikes!

[LadyHam]

Well because of all the "change" goin round I no longer have cable so I wont be able to see that. :(
I dont miss NG and the one who yells and pushes her recovery book though.

48 Hours is on CBS. Do you still get the regular network channels? Even if you don't, you will be able to watch it online. Someone will either put it up on youtube or I think CBS may put past episodes online that you can watch. Plus, you can be sure that there will be detailed discussion about the episode right here on this forum. So even if you miss the show, you'll feel like you didn't, lol!:wink:

[Sun]

I've heard convincing arguments on both sides of whether cindy knew as early as june 16. this is going to be an interesting trial to follow.

I've mulled that over several times. It just boggles my mind that Cindy did not attempt to locate Casey or Caylee's whereabouts any earlier than a month. And, only when she became furious that she had to spend $466 (I think) to get the car out of impound.

Even with what I've seen in the Discovery, I tend to have unanswered questions about what George knew, and when. Something about him just doesn't sit right with me. Maybe it's just his habit of lying. Or maybe I see a bit of Casey in him. chuckles... I just don't like him.

[Pierre]

48 Hours is on CBS. Do you still get the regular network channels? Even if you don't, you will be able to watch it online. Someone will either put it up on youtube or I think CBS may put past episodes online that you can watch. Plus, you can be sure that there will be detailed discussion about the episode right here on this forum. So even if you miss the show, you'll feel like you didn't, lol!:wink:

Oh hey thanks! I do get CBS! I got the 12.00 a month cable option. I thought it was CNN, I wasnt paying much attention, just know that most of my fav's are gone for now.

[cassidy]

Good memory Lady. I wonder if george and cynthia thought it odd that a stimulus check didn't arrive for their hard working daughter?


She probably told them it did as she skimmed her "stimulus" right out of their checking accont.

JMO

[SayItAgain]

I think the defense knows the hopelessness of their case, but I also think they are bound and determined to see this case through the trial. They are in this for the publicity anyway, so they have nothing to lose by taking this to trial. The defense team themselves may also want to take a plea deal, but there is no way that Casey does. She will take all her secrets to her grave and even when the overwhelming evidence of her guilt is shown at trial, Casey will still be singing the tune that she is 100% innocent.:rolleyes:

Oh, well. If that's the way she wants it, then that's the way she'll have it. :thumbup:

[msgatorslayer]

She probably told them it did as she skimmed her "stimulus" right out of their checking accont.

JMO

Which reminds me -

Remember the 'work' emails Casey had?

She was playing some kind of financial game with her parents right before Christmas.

Fake emails from Universal saying there were payroll problems. That the writer wanted to help her and get to the bottom of things but the office would be closed, lmao. IIRC

'See Mom!!! This is why I don't have money for Christmas.':rolleyes:

[LadyHam]

Oh, well. If that's the way she wants it, then that's the way she'll have it. :thumbup:

Yes, Casey's lack of remorse for what happened to Caylee and her lack of taking responsibility for what happened to Caylee will surely get her the DP. That and the ridiculous antics of her defense team. But this is the way that Casey wanted it.:rolleyes: Things could have been a little bit different for her if she would have cooperated w/the authorities from the beginning, but Casey had visions of grandeur and visions of getting out of this scott free. Casey's predicament can be blamed on one person and one person only..... Casey herself. She's going to end up getting exactly what she deserves.:thumbup:

[Anakerie]

Well because of all the "change" goin round I no longer have cable so I wont be able to see that. :(
I dont miss NG and the one who yells and pushes her recovery book though.
You'll be able to see it if you have a fast enough net connection to watch streaming stuff... CBS puts the videos up for all to watch on their website after they've aired on TV.
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/48_hours/

[Pierre]

You'll be able to see it if you have a fast enough net connection to watch streaming stuff... CBS puts the videos up for all to watch on their website after they've aired on TV.
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/48_hours/

Another poster let me know I DO have CBS. But thank you anyway.
P.S. puter and TV are at different locations.

[djmsmom]

Which reminds me -

Remember the 'work' emails Casey had?

She was playing some kind of financial game with her parents right before Christmas.

Fake emails from Universal saying there were payroll problems. That the writer wanted to help her and get to the bottom of things but the office would be closed, lmao. IIRC

'See Mom!!! This is why I don't have money for Christmas.':rolleyes:

I haven't seen any of Caseys fake emails. Is there a link to them? Are they in evidence?

[msgatorslayer]

I haven't seen any of Caseys fake emails. Is there a link to them? Are they in evidence?

I don't have the link but I'm sure our link queen does.:wink:

[bballgrl]

Hiya sis... well stranger things have happened and I guess if the perp suddenly changes her entire affect and the state wants to expedite this and save money it's possible. I think they're digging their heels in on this one -- and she's making it easy on them because she's so hardcore.

btw, one more Thompson thought. I'm betting LE has dug out his prior ignored calls to the hot line and corroborated his story. Also I'm chagrined to read comments about him doing this because he wants business in his store. I think that's beyond the pale myself and so far what has he done to deserve such condemnation?

I'm with you summer. IMO - after being a member of a true crime community, I don't know if I would ever come forward with information on a missing persons case. I don't think I could handle the pressure and all of the negative stuff people would say about me. To be quite honest. If this man made up this story, it would HURT his business, he seems like a rather intellegent fellow and I can't imagine him making up a story like this for PUBLICITY... :crying:

[achristie]

I can't wait to see this program! The Anthonys will attempt their spin, of course, but 48 Hours Mystery will show both sides of this case and it will not bode favourably for that family.

I'm sure Cindy will be in shock that they "twisted" all her "facts" around to make it look bad for Casey. C'est la vie, Cindy! :laugh:

Wasn't there a bald headed gentleman who was seen numerous times with them in court? Did I read that he was with CBS? I'm sure they were quite chummy, and agree the A's are in for a rude awakening. Now, my question is, do they get paid for this? Must they provide new video and such ?

MOO Aggie

[Eagleeye]

We were discussing the sensors on automatic doors last night....

I JUST came from Babies R Us and the EXACT the scenario I put forth last night happened. I bought my merchandise and was about to exit the store when lo and behold, right in front of me was a little girl, no more than 2-3, standing at the AUTOMATIC doors. Her mother was on the OTHER SIDE and not until I walked up and set off the sensor did that door open.

another bizarre incident: was in another store searching for baby things and was checking out the winter baby hats. The ONLY ones they had for boys said "Here Comes Trouble". And NO I didn't buy one. yikes!

Jammies, do you think that because it is a childs goods store they might have the sensors set higher so the children can't get out of the store without their parents if they happen to run off or lagging behind. I am sure you could call that store to see if that is the case.

[desmom]

I haven't seen any of Caseys fake emails. Is there a link to them? Are they in evidence?

I don't have the link but I'm sure our link queen does.:wink:

begins on page 299 - I think. (number in the box at the top of the page) http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel

[desmom]

Which reminds me -

Remember the 'work' emails Casey had?

She was playing some kind of financial game with her parents right before Christmas.

Fake emails from Universal saying there were payroll problems. That the writer wanted to help her and get to the bottom of things but the office would be closed, lmao. IIRC

'See Mom!!! This is why I don't have money for Christmas.':rolleyes:

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:24:09 -0800 (PST
From: katherine hart <k.hart@*********
Subject: 12/18/2007 meeting
To: caseyomarie@*********


Miss Anthony,

I regret to inform you that I will be unable to attend our meeting today. It has come to my attention, that the Human Resources Building will be closed from Tuesday, December 18, 2007, until Wednesday, December 19, 2007. Unfortunately, I know that this does not meet your request, and the agreement we had reached yesterday afternoon. I deeply apologize, and hope that I will be able to be of further assistance later this week. I am doing everything in my power, to make sure that you will be fully compensated for this inconvenience.

I hop you understand that, with today's closure, neither the Human Resources Building, Payroll Department, nor the Credit Union will be accessible. I also hope to be able to explain the situation to you, in more detail, when we meet this week.

Please, if you have any questions, comments or concerns, feel free to contact me via my home email address, listed above.

Thank you for your time, and I hope you have a wonderful day!

Sincerely,

Katherine Hart
Human Resources Manager
Universal Studios, Florida

[msjoni]

I just saw photo's of Casey, I think that "rash" she has on her back could be Guttate Psoriasis see pictures of it at link...
http://www.emedicinehealth.com/guttate_psoriasis/page14_em.htm

[MorningGlory]

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Miss Anthony,

I regret to inform you that I will be unable to attend our meeting today. It has come to my attention, that the Human Resources Building will be closed from Tuesday, December 18, 2007, until Wednesday, December 19, 2007. Unfortunately, I know that this does not meet your request, and the agreement we had reached yesterday afternoon. I deeply apologize, and hope that I will be able to be of further assistance later this week. I am doing everything in my power, to make sure that you will be fully compensated for this inconvenience.

I hop you understand that, with today's closure, neither the Human Resources Building, Payroll Department, nor the Credit Union will be accessible. I also hope to be able to explain the situation to you, in more detail, when we meet this week.

Please, if you have any questions, comments or concerns, feel free to contact me via my home email address, listed above.

Thank you for your time, and I hope you have a wonderful day!

Sincerely,

Katherine Hart
Human Resources Manager
Universal Studios, Florida


I guess Casey's idea of people who have real jobs is that they use a whole lot of commas in their correspondence. And that they would use yahoo mail rather than intracompany email - with no official letterhead or logo. How gullible were Cindy and George for Pete's sake. :tongueside:
The lengths and depths of her deception with these emails boggle the non Anthony mind. It would have been a whole lot easier to get a job. Heck, she could have worked at Target and received an employee discount on her hoodies and sunglasses! jmo

[crimeq]

Do we know if there even was a Katherine Hart employed with Universal? Or could this be another person that came out of Casey's evil mind?

And missing now ... that lists grows ever-longer!

[Chardonnay]

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:24:09 -0800 (PST
From: katherine hart <k.hart@*********
Subject: 12/18/2007 meeting
To: caseyomarie@*********


Miss Anthony,

I regret to inform you that I will be unable to attend our meeting today. It has come to my attention, that the Human Resources Building will be closed from Tuesday, December 18, 2007, until Wednesday, December 19, 2007. Unfortunately, I know that this does not meet your request, and the agreement we had reached yesterday afternoon. I deeply apologize, and hope that I will be able to be of further assistance later this week. I am doing everything in my power, to make sure that you will be fully compensated for this inconvenience.

I hop you understand that, with today's closure, neither the Human Resources Building, Payroll Department, nor the Credit Union will be accessible. I also hope to be able to explain the situation to you, in more detail, when we meet this week.

Please, if you have any questions, comments or concerns, feel free to contact me via my home email address, listed above.

Thank you for your time, and I hope you have a wonderful day!

Sincerely,

Katherine Hart
Human Resources Manager
Universal Studios, Florida


Kinda eery, Hart/Heart (sticker)

[desmom]

Do we know if there even was a Katherine Hart employed with Universal? Or could this be another person that came out of Casey's evil mind?

page 277 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel

Letter from Universal "I can not find any record of a Katherine Hart..."

[artdonkey]

I just went to the Casselberry Walmart store #943 with my fellow lurking sleuth. We took pics of the doors. Hope this info helps in explaining about the doors. This Walmart was expanded into a SuperWalmart in the past few years. There are 3 seperate intrances..Garden, Store and Grocery. As you exit the main part of the store after the checkouts, the exit to the left is nearest to the grocery part while the one on the right is nearer to the general merchandise part of the store. Both have automatic doors and a manual door to the side and perpendicular to the automatic doors. There is an interior hallway running just inside the auto doors over to the manual door in both locations. On the grocery side it is lined with drink vending machines, but on the right exit side there are also toy vending machines. It would be the natural place for a two+ year old to immediately head for as you approach the auto doors and then as they ran down that small hallway, you would exit through the manual door.
There are also six groups of three(total of 18) security cameras located on the front roof of the building.

[msgatorslayer]

Thanks for the linkage, Des.

It's been a long time since I read those emails.

The reason I think Casey fudged that one for financial reasons is because of how the 'writer', {Casey}, tells of not only the Human Resource office being closed, but also the Payroll Dept and Credit union. And she'll be COMPENSATED for the inconvenience.

[msgatorslayer]

I guess Casey's idea of people who have real jobs is that they use a whole lot of commas in their correspondence. And that they would use yahoo mail rather than intracompany email - with no official letterhead or logo. How gullible were Cindy and George for Pete's sake. :tongueside:
The lengths and depths of her deception with these emails boggle the non Anthony mind. It would have been a whole lot easier to get a job. Heck, she could have worked at Target and received an employee discount on her hoodies and sunglasses! jmo

:lol:

Amazing!! She worked hard at not working. Making fake emails to show her parents 'PROOF" that she was working.

[desmom]

Thanks for the linkage, Des.

It's been a long time since I read those emails.

The reason I think Casey fudged that one for financial reasons is because of how the 'writer', {Casey}, tells of not only the Human Resource office being closed, but also the Payroll Dept and Credit union. And she'll be COMPENSATED for the inconvenience.

And Cindy bought Human Resources, Payroll AND the credit union were going to be closed for 2 days during the middle of the week? Okie Dokie.

[Sun]

:lol:

Amazing!! She worked hard at not working. Making fake emails to show her parents 'PROOF" that she was working.

And, when DCF interviewed Casey in August 2008 when she was out on bond, she TOLD them that she was working. And, told them many of the same lies that she told LE. All while Cindy was there by her side. Things like this just make me go, HUH???? :huh:

[sammy62]

begins on page 299 - I think. (number in the box at the top of the page) http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3868229/guide-to-casey-anthony-documents-orlando-sentinel

you are awesome

[*Serenity*]

Yes, Casey's lack of remorse for what happened to Caylee and her lack of taking responsibility for what happened to Caylee will surely get her the DP. That and the ridiculous antics of her defense team. But this is the way that Casey wanted it.:rolleyes: Things could have been a little bit different for her if she would have cooperated w/the authorities from the beginning, but Casey had visions of grandeur and visions of getting out of this scott free. Casey's predicament can be blamed on one person and one person only..... Casey herself. She's going to end up getting exactly what she deserves.:thumbup:


Even IF Casey would have been close to breaking down and wanting to assist LE, with let's say accident... she simply couldn't do it... the duct tape and evidence was there and she knew that would show NO accident. PLUS from day 1 she had the fear of Cindy's wrath more than the fear of anyone or anything else. There was no turning back for her no matter what. Not that I think she would have-- but that tiny IF was wiped out with the duct tape.

[desmom]

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From: Tom <Thomas.Franck@events.univ ersal.com>
To: C.Anthony@events.unive rsal.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:20:05 PM
Subject: **EVENT TONIGHT

Hello All.
NBC called in a favor, and are hosting yet another event at Studios. Please report by 7:30pm. Dress attire. Bring jeans, just in case. Not everyone will be required to dress-up, but I'm not sure who I'm putting where. Call me if you have any questions. I'll be back in the office around 6.

Thomas Franck
Event Direct, East Coast Operations

Amy and Casey text messages May 15, 2008: bottom of page 23 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1772101/AH-and-KC-Text-Messages

Casey > Amy 8:17 a.m. As fun as last night was.. my night didn't end so hot.

Amy > Casey What happened?

Casey > Amy: Two of my tires blew out on my way home. (Troy and Ric literally saved the day.)

more texts about debris in the road, back tire then front tire blew...

Casey > Amy 8:45 a.m. I fell like carp this morning. Voyage was fun......


NBC must have used the "Studios" at Voyage.

jmo

[Sun]

Motion to modity order compelling access to crime scene photos for defense experts

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087553

Here is some new reading.

[Sun]

The defense wants to be able to reproduce (copy) the crime scene photos so that they can manipulate them. :thumbdown:

[Sun]

Gee, the Judge gave Baez what he asked for, and now Baez is now telling the court that it isn't what is needed.

[BJames]

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Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:24:09 -0800 (PST
From: katherine hart <k.hart@*********
Subject: 12/18/2007 meeting
To: caseyomarie@*********


Miss Anthony,

I regret to inform you that I will be unable to attend our meeting today. It has come to my attention, that the Human Resources Building will be closed from Tuesday, December 18, 2007, until Wednesday, December 19, 2007. Unfortunately, I know that this does not meet your request, and the agreement we had reached yesterday afternoon. I deeply apologize, and hope that I will be able to be of further assistance later this week. I am doing everything in my power, to make sure that you will be fully compensated for this inconvenience.

I hop you understand that, with today's closure, neither the Human Resources Building, Payroll Department, nor the Credit Union will be accessible. I also hope to be able to explain the situation to you, in more detail, when we meet this week.

Please, if you have any questions, comments or concerns, feel free to contact me via my home email address, listed above.

Thank you for your time, and I hope you have a wonderful day!

Sincerely,

Katherine Hart
Human Resources Manager
Universal Studios, Florida



Thanks for your great links and memory as always Desmom...I'm not sure if we are meant to 'snip' or just 'bold'...things change :rolleyes:

Anywhoooo...

The first thing that struck me in this 'email' was how 'personal' Ms. Hart makes her apologies...seriously. Like Casey was a cut above whomever else might be put out by this information (come on now) and how very 'sad' this woman (Casey!) was about any 'inconvenience' this might cause for poor Casey Anthony.

I guess it just doesn't 'fit' for me...as 'in tune' as Cindy always likes to portray/believe herself to be...but she fell for this? Come on now...they call me naive and even I wouldn't fall for that one...
Did Cindy think that every empolyee that would be affected by this (!!) got a personal email? Or just Ms. Anthony.....wow.


Just my opinion of course..

[SayItAgain]

I guess Casey's idea of people who have real jobs is that they use a whole lot of commas in their correspondence. And that they would use yahoo mail rather than intracompany email - with no official letterhead or logo. How gullible were Cindy and George for Pete's sake. :tongueside:
The lengths and depths of her deception with these emails boggle the non Anthony mind. It would have been a whole lot easier to get a job. Heck, she could have worked at Target and received an employee discount on her hoodies and sunglasses! jmo

ROFL! Great post! :laugh:

[BJames]

Gee, the Judge gave Baez what he asked for, and now Baez is now telling the court that it isn't what is needed.

My guess Sun?
Put Mr. Baez in a wet paper bag and we won't see him until the trial...if indeed he even finds his way out by then. Without a 'Phone a Friend' 911 call to Linda Baden or maybe even Andrea...he's a lost soul.

Just my opinion of course...

[SayItAgain]

I just went to the Casselberry Walmart store #943 with my fellow lurking sleuth. We took pics of the doors. Hope this info helps in explaining about the doors. This Walmart was expanded into a SuperWalmart in the past few years. There are 3 seperate intrances..Garden, Store and Grocery. As you exit the main part of the store after the checkouts, the exit to the left is nearest to the grocery part while the one on the right is nearer to the general merchandise part of the store. Both have automatic doors and a manual door to the side and perpendicular to the automatic doors. There is an interior hallway running just inside the auto doors over to the manual door in both locations. On the grocery side it is lined with drink vending machines, but on the right exit side there are also toy vending machines. It would be the natural place for a two+ year old to immediately head for as you approach the auto doors and then as they ran down that small hallway, you would exit through the manual door.
There are also six groups of three(total of 18) security cameras located on the front roof of the building.

Nice sleuthing! :thumbup: Of particular interest is your observation about the toy vending machines on the right exit side. Good work!

[desmom]

Motion to modity order compelling access to crime scene photos for defense experts

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087553

Here is some new reading.

I am so confused. Maybe I am not seeing it. The courts ordered no copies or replications be made of the photos is in regards to the photographs and xrays taken of the remains on page 7 of your link. I remember this motion hearing. It was about Caylee's autopsy photographs.

This motion is requesting permission to reproduce hard or digital copies of the crime scene photographs.

I am so confused. jmo

[desmom]

Nice sleuthing! :thumbup: Of particular interest is your observation about the toy vending machines on the right exit side. Good work!

I agree! Great job of sleuthing, artdonkey!

[Sun]

I am so confused. Maybe I am not seeing it. The courts ordered no copies or replications be made of the photos is in regards to the photographs and xrays taken of the remains on page 7 of your link. I remember this motion hearing. It was about Caylee's autopsy photographs.

This motion is requesting permission to reproduce hard or digital copies of the crime scene photographs.

I am so confused. jmo

The Judge ruled once on this issue. Why does he now have to re-visit this same issue, when Baez was the one who said that a "secured server" would be fine with him? I've got a suspicion that Baez didn't pony up the money to purchase and have this type of server/software installed and maintained.

Motion to modity order compelling access to crime scene photos for defense experts
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087553

1. The Defense has attempted to provide their experts access to the crime scene photographs through the use of a secure server for approx 8 months.
2. The Defense's experts have not been able to adequately access the photographs due to various connectivity issues with the server.

[SayItAgain]

The Judge ruled once on this issue. Why does he now have to re-visit this same issue, when Baez was the one who said that a "secured server" would be fine with him? I've got a suspicion that Baez didn't pony up the money to purchase and have this type of server/software installed and maintained.

Motion to modity order compelling access to crime scene photos for defense experts
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087553

1. The Defense has attempted to provide their experts access to the crime scene photographs through the use of a secure server for approx 8 months.
2. The Defense's experts have not been able to adequately access the photographs due to various connectivity issues with the server.

I haven't even read the link yet, but ... you've got to be kidding me! :ohmy:

Eight months later and the defense, whose responsibility it was to set up the secure site, hasn't yet had "adequate access" to the dump site photos?

Absolutely mind-blowing! What exactly have they been using to prepare their defense strategy?

[Sun]

I haven't even read the link yet, but ... you've got to be kidding me! :ohmy:

Eight months later and the defense, whose responsibility it was to set up the secure site, hasn't yet had "adequate access" to the dump site photos?

Absolutely mind-blowing! What exactly have they been using to prepare their defense strategy?

That is a question that Casey should be asking herself. :confused:

[crimeq]

Thanks for the linkage, Des.

It's been a long time since I read those emails.

The reason I think Casey fudged that one for financial reasons is because of how the 'writer', {Casey}, tells of not only the Human Resource office being closed, but also the Payroll Dept and Credit union. And she'll be COMPENSATED for the inconvenience.

Yeah, I know in business it's standard practice to "compensate for inconvenience" because a paycheck is late. NOT! LOL.

It does show very clearly though that Casey EXPECTS to be compensated for inconvenience in her life, one way or another.

[crimeq]

And Cindy bought Human Resources, Payroll AND the credit union were going to be closed for 2 days during the middle of the week? Okie Dokie.

To give everyone time off to Christmas shop ;-)

[Sun]

Motion To Dismiss Due To Spoliation Of Evidence
Defense Motion (9/17/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20972702/detail.html
State's Response (9/23/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21090992/detail.html
Defense Reply to the State's Response (10/12): http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087975

Here is more new reading! Here is the defense's response. I've only started reading it, but already I am so enraged!

[Anakerie]

Motion to modity order compelling access to crime scene photos for defense experts

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087553

Here is some new reading.
Hmm.. I guess Baez couldn't find anyone that knows how to set up a secure server or his "experts" couldn't figure out how to access what he or his "IT" put on the server... Good grief. :rolleyes:

The other option is that Baez couldn't afford to have a secure server set up...

[SayItAgain]

That is a question that Casey should be asking herself. :confused:

IIRC, during the court hearing in which this secure server arrangement was cooked up by Baez, the state was reluctant to release to the defense the crime scene photos, in particular those of Caylee's remains, due to concerns about the defense's suspected habit of selling pictures and videos of Caylee to media outlets for "licensing fees."

Now, 8 long months later, we find out one more thing Baez is incompetent at -- getting a secure website set up for the crime scene photos.

I wonder if the state is any more willing 8 months later to turn those photos over to the defense?

This is just ... there are no words ... :blink:

[SayItAgain]

Hmm.. I guess Baez couldn't find anyone that knows how to set up a secure server or his "experts" couldn't figure out how to access what he or his "IT" put on the server... Good grief. :rolleyes:

The other option is that Baez couldn't afford to have a secure server set up...

We're on the same page. Ay yi yi. :thumbdown:

[Anakerie]

The Judge ruled once on this issue. Why does he now have to re-visit this same issue, when Baez was the one who said that a "secured server" would be fine with him? I've got a suspicion that Baez didn't pony up the money to purchase and have this type of server/software installed and maintained.

Motion to modity order compelling access to crime scene photos for defense experts
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087553

1. The Defense has attempted to provide their experts access to the crime scene photographs through the use of a secure server for approx 8 months.
2. The Defense's experts have not been able to adequately access the photographs due to various connectivity issues with the server.
I have a hunch that Baez didn't hire anyone to set up the secure server. He probably used one of the law students he's been "teaching" and the guy had no clue how to set one up. It really isn't all that hard to set up a secure server. As for the "connectivity issues".. Well, it helps to have the server set up properly!

[Scampi]

Motion to modity order compelling access to crime scene photos for defense experts

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087553

Here is some new reading.

I would NEVER trust this defense team with those sensitive photos, expecially the ones of Caylee's remains.

If they want to access them, then let them roll down to the prosecutor's office and look at them there, under the guard of someone from the prosecutor's office.

Can't wait to hear Jeff and Linda's objection to this modification cuz baez is to incompetent to set up an adequate server. IMO.

[need2no]

Kinda eery, Hart/Heart (sticker)


Good catch! Spooky.....

[Pruddennce]

And Cindy bought Human Resources, Payroll AND the credit union were going to be closed for 2 days during the middle of the week? Okie Dokie.

and everyone connected with universal sent emails to Casey via YAHOO.....woo hoo, I THINK NOT!.......HR for a huge company using YAHOO MAIL?????

LOL.

IMO, when Lee was asked by LE why do YOU think casey was using someone else's IP to upload pics to her ms/facebook, he didnt know...oh the puter MIGHT have died...rightttttttttt......IMO while casey was sending herself 'employment emails', she saved some time and uploaded pics as well. I think she was computer literate when it came to 'IP paths'...somebody gave her the 'head's up' about it.

if Cindy suspected anything, she would certainly have LEE INVESTIGATE....and Lee is very odd, he might have taken some pleasure in revealing she was using the home computer, if that were the case. but it wasnt.

Casey used someone else's to firm up the lie. *just in case*.

I wonder whose IP she was using? I recall seeing something about it.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[desmom]

Motion To Dismiss Due To Spoliation Of Evidence
Defense Motion (9/17/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20972702/detail.html
State's Response (9/23/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21090992/detail.html
Defense Reply to the State's Response (10/12): http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087975

Here is more new reading! Here is the defense's response. I've only started reading it, but already I am so enraged!

Motions give me a headache.

The defense is still carrying on about not having access to the crime scene and for that reason the charges against Casey should be dismissed?

No one told JB to fly his experts in from around the country and parade them in front of the media while the crime scene was being processed.

From looking at the undergrowth and the garbage in that area at the time Caylee's remains were found, LE had no choice but to comb through the entire area leaf by leaf and twig by twig. IF LE had not done a thorough search of that area, the defense would have been all over them about sloppy work.

Dr. Lee's past speaks volumes as to why I would not want the man in the middle of my crime scene.

jmo

[Ladyhawk]

I guess Casey's idea of people who have real jobs is that they use a whole lot of commas in their correspondence. And that they would use yahoo mail rather than intracompany email - with no official letterhead or logo. How gullible were Cindy and George for Pete's sake. :tongueside:
The lengths and depths of her deception with these emails boggle the non Anthony mind. It would have been a whole lot easier to get a job. Heck, she could have worked at Target and received an employee discount on her hoodies and sunglasses! jmo

BBM.....I believe the only discount she was interested in is the five finger because the FFD has a higher percentage than the employee discount.:tonguewag:

[SayItAgain]

Motion To Dismiss Due To Spoliation Of Evidence
Defense Motion (9/17/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20972702/detail.html
State's Response (9/23/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21090992/detail.html
Defense Reply to the State's Response (10/12): http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087975

Here is more new reading! Here is the defense's response. I've only started reading it, but already I am so enraged!

Waste. Huge waste.

Now comes Casey Anthony, barking up the same wrong tree.

GMAB. :rolleyes:

[need2no]

IIRC, during the court hearing in which this secure server arrangement was cooked up by Baez, the state was reluctant to release to the defense the crime scene photos, in particular those of Caylee's remains, due to concerns about the defense's suspected habit of selling pictures and videos of Caylee to media outlets for "licensing fees."

Now, 8 long months later, we find out one more thing Baez is incompetent at -- getting a secure website set up for the crime scene photos.

I wonder if the state is any more willing 8 months later to turn those photos over to the defense?

This is just ... there are no words ... :blink:


If Judge Strickland rules against the defense getting hard copies due to their inept ability to set up a secure server, will this be grounds for appeal later? Maybe even incompetent representation.

I hope Strickland gives Baez and team a good dressing down in court, this is ridiculous. The good Judge must be tired of hearing the same motions over and over. The defense team operates like they are on a hampster wheel going no where fast, and then dumping their woes back in the court's lap.

[Spots]

I haven't even read the link yet, but ... you've got to be kidding me! :ohmy:

Eight months later and the defense, whose responsibility it was to set up the secure site, hasn't yet had "adequate access" to the dump site photos?

Absolutely mind-blowing! What exactly have they been using to prepare their defense strategy?

Baez's secure server: two tin cans and a string. :rolleyes:

FGS, Jose, hire an expert to plug the wires in for you.

[Sun]

Motions give me a headache.

The defense is still carrying on about not having access to the crime scene and for that reason the charges against Casey should be dismissed?

No one told JB to fly his experts in from around the country and parade them in front of the media while the crime scene was being processed.

From looking at the undergrowth and the garbage in that area at the time Caylee's remains were found, LE had no choice but to comb through the entire area leaf by leaf and twig by twig. IF LE had not done a thorough search of that area, the defense would have been all over them about sloppy work.

Dr. Lee's past speaks volumes as to why I would not want the man in the middle of my crime scene.

jmo

Judge Strickland wasn't at all happy with Baez the last time he tried to argue this in the courtroom. Can't remember Judge Strickland's exact wording, but it was quite a good statement.

[denjet]

The Judge ruled once on this issue. Why does he now have to re-visit this same issue, when Baez was the one who said that a "secured server" would be fine with him? I've got a suspicion that Baez didn't pony up the money to purchase and have this type of server/software installed and maintained.

Motion to modity order compelling access to crime scene photos for defense experts
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087553

1. The Defense has attempted to provide their experts access to the crime scene photographs through the use of a secure server for approx 8 months.
Looks like Jose's been working on it for 8 months !!!!! Perhaps they should now PAY for a network IT person to do this for them ??
2. The Defense's experts have not been able to adequately access the photographs due to various connectivity issues with the server.ARE THEY SERIOUS??? THEY ARE JUST NOW GETTING AROUND TO EXAMINING EVIDENCE !! ARE THEY SERIOUS????

Hi Sun!
Thanks for the link ... red comments mine ...
I liked this blurb about what they're asking for:

"1. Provide the Defense the opportunity to reproduce hard and/or digital copies of the crime scene photographs such that their experts will have unfettered access to inspection of such photographs. So their experts haven't even started looking at them??
2. The Defense fully understands and respects the sensitivity of these photographs and will respect any and all restrictions this court wishes to impose on their availability." ???? WHAT?? The court already made a ruling on this ... they're arguing against it but they're saying they'll respect what the court decides now???

I sure hope this dream-on team gets a smack-down from Strickland this Friday ... they need it if this case is EVER going to go to trial :cursing:

ETA: Thanks for letting me rant ... apologize for the caps and red type

[Sun]

If Judge Strickland rules against the defense getting hard copies due to their inept ability to set up a secure server, will this be grounds for appeal later? Maybe even incompetent representation.

I hope Strickland gives Baez and team a good dressing down in court, this is ridiculous. The good Judge must be tired of hearing the same motions over and over. The defense team operates like they are on a hampster wheel going no where fast, and then dumping their woes back in the court's lap.

Given the media blitz that the defense recently conducted, I hope that Judge Strickland denies once again, the reproduction of the sensative crime scene photos.

[Ladyhawk]

Hmm.. I guess Baez couldn't find anyone that knows how to set up a secure server or his "experts" couldn't figure out how to access what he or his "IT" put on the server... Good grief. :rolleyes:

The other option is that Baez couldn't afford to have a secure server set up...

Another thought on the secure server arrangement is that Baez has been unable to figure out a way to sell/leak/loose those photos from the secure server arrangement and has another scheme in mind for the accidental disbursement of the photos that perhaps cannot be traced back to the defense.

[SayItAgain]

If Judge Strickland rules against the defense getting hard copies due to their inept ability to set up a secure server, will this be grounds for appeal later? Maybe even incompetent representation.

I hope Strickland gives Baez and team a good dressing down in court, this is ridiculous. The good Judge must be tired of hearing the same motions over and over. The defense team operates like they are on a hampster wheel going no where fast, and then dumping their woes back in the court's lap.

Somehow, the defense has to have access to the photos. That much is obvious. Why they waited eight months to send up a flare is what is just stunning to me. They haven't even got a good look at photos of the crime scene 10 months after the remains were discovered? A year after their client was sent to jail? WTH have they been doing for 10 months? It's just ... stunning.

Okay, I'm repeating myself. I'll stop.

And this tinkling contest over the term "spoliation" ... please! :punch:

[denjet]

Baez's secure server: two tin cans and a string. :rolleyes:

FGS, Jose, hire an expert to plug the wires in for you.

LMAO!! thanks Spots !! Sound like that's it in a nutshell !! :lol:

[SayItAgain]

Another thought on the secure server arrangement is that Baez has been unable to figure out a way to sell/leak/loose those photos from the secure server arrangement and has another scheme in mind for the accidental disbursement of the photos that perhaps cannot be traced back to the defense.

Ooooh! You're scaring me, Ladyhawk. :scared:

[GumShoeJoe]

I cannot continue reading the defense motions, they are so annoying, going on about how the only evidence of a possible homicide is the duct tape.... guess we are forgetting about the trash bag, laundry bag, remains in the woods, child missing, lying mother, smell in the car, etc. How do they think she got there????

[desmom]

Judge Strickland wasn't at all happy with Baez the last time he tried to argue this in the courtroom. Can't remember Judge Strickland's exact wording, but it was quite a good statement.

The motion was heard the day Judge Strickland ordered Casey to appear. Articles from about the January motion hearing:

http://www.wftv.com/news/18436005/detail.html
(includes link to raw video of the day's hearing)
Prosecutors called for the hearing and asked Judge Strickland to place restrictions on the photographs of Caylee's remains. The state was worried someone would get a hold of them and sell them to the tabloids.

Judge Strickland decided to put them in Jose Baez's custody and Baez agreed the photographs would not be used for profit and a secure website will be put into place so that only authorized people will have access.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/1/8/hearing_in_casey_anthony_case_set_for_thursday.htm l
(link includes list of motions)
At the hearing, Baez presented 18 motions, all seeking more evidence from the prosecution...

Judge Strickland ruled Baez has to use the same password protected system used by the medical examiner to keep the photos private.

[need2no]

Given the media blitz that the defense recently conducted, I hope that Judge Strickland denies once again, the reproduction of the sensative crime scene photos.

So do I, but at this point Judge Strickland has every right to be down right annoyed and totally frustrated at the defense team. He needs to blast them out of his courtroom over these continued shenanigans.

Judge Judy might say to Baez....what part of NO don't you understand.

[Sun]

I cannot continue reading the defense motions, they are so annoying, going on about how the only evidence of a possible homicide is the duct tape.... guess we are forgetting about the trash bag, laundry bag, remains in the woods, child missing, lying mother, smell in the car, etc. How do they think she got there????

Ah, I was saving the other link for last. ...I'm guessing that it's going to be fun to read.

[desmom]

I cannot continue reading the defense motions, they are so annoying, going on about how the only evidence of a possible homicide is the duct tape.... guess we are forgetting about the trash bag, laundry bag, remains in the woods, child missing, lying mother, smell in the car, etc. How do they think she got there????

Oh and the grave wax on the napkins found in the trash bag in the trunk of the car.

In the last dump, I think I read there was also grave wax found in Caylee's hair.

jmo

[SayItAgain]

Baez's secure server: two tin cans and a string. :rolleyes:

FGS, Jose, hire an expert to plug the wires in for you.

Isn't the reason he's called "Juanny Cochran" :rolleyes: by whoever is because he had some involvement in the OJ case by way of helping/showing the defense team how to use the internet in some manner?

Isn't the use of computers in the legal profession supposed to be sort of a specialty of Jose's?

Good grief.

[Scampi]

Motion To Dismiss Due To Spoliation Of Evidence
Defense Motion (9/17/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20972702/detail.html
State's Response (9/23/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21090992/detail.html
Defense Reply to the State's Response (10/12): http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087975

Here is more new reading! Here is the defense's response. I've only started reading it, but already I am so enraged!

I'm speechless at this incompetent motion. baez just doesn't get it that he can't just claim that the State willfully destroyed exculpable evidence, he has to prove it. Nowhere in this motion is there any proof the State acted in bad faith.

I cannot wait to hear Judge Strickland smack jose around the courtroom on Friday about this poor response. :laugh:

[Scampi]

Somehow, the defense has to have access to the photos. That much is obvious. Why they waited eight months to send up a flare is what is just stunning to me. They haven't even got a good look at photos of the crime scene 10 months after the remains were discovered? A year after their client was sent to jail? WTH have they been doing for 10 months? It's just ... stunning.

Okay, I'm repeating myself. I'll stop.

And this tinkling contest over the term "spoliation" ... please! :punch:

The defense readily whines they don't have half the evidence, then turns right around and wants the charges dismissed due to lack of evidence............... :lol:

I swear to God they don't know what they're doing!!!

[Ladyhawk]

Ooooh! You're scaring me, Ladyhawk. :scared:

I'm so sorry Say......there has to be a reason he's ignored the server arrangement he agreed to with Judge Strickland and I would think it would be so easy to "loose" some copies if all his experts had copies and hard to pinpoint exactly where one or two got loose.

[Scampi]

Judge Strickland wasn't at all happy with Baez the last time he tried to argue this in the courtroom. Can't remember Judge Strickland's exact wording, but it was quite a good statement.

He said something like the court was not going to help baez interfere with a criminal investigation....lol

[SayItAgain]

I'm so sorry Say......there has to be a reason he's ignored the server arrangement he agreed to with Judge Strickland and I would think it would be so easy to "loose" some copies if all his experts had copies and hard to pinpoint exactly where one or two got loose.

Don't be sorry. I roared when I read that! :lol:

[Ladyhawk]

I'm speechless at this incompetent motion. baez just doesn't get it that he can't just claim that the State willfully destroyed exculpable evidence, he has to prove it. Nowhere in this motion is there any proof the State acted in bad faith.

I cannot wait to hear Judge Strickland smack jose around the courtroom on Friday about this poor response. :laugh:

Someone needs to send Judge Strickland whatever the legal equivalent of Dramamine is because he is bound to have motion sickness if this keeps up.

[Spots]

The defense readily whines they don't have half the evidence, then turns right around and wants the charges dismissed due to lack of evidence............... :lol:

I swear to God they don't know what they're doing!!!

The sad thing is that these lawyers generally charge many hundreds of dollars per hour for such writing motions. Even if, oh........... say, a few students actually wrote it. And the lawyer is getting paid for "teaching" these students how to write motions.

I want a job that pays like that.

[desmom]

Casey's Defense Wants Check Fraud Venue Change
http://www.wftv.com/news/21276357/detail.html

Casey Anthony’s defense team is asking for a change of venue for her check fraud trial, which could be scheduled at her next hearing on Friday.

The defense is also asking that each potential juror be questioned individually, out of earshot of the others called for jury duty.

They also do not want the jurors hearing her check fraud case to hear any of the evidence that comes out publicly in her murder case.

[Spots]

Casey's Defense Wants Check Fraud Venue Change
http://www.wftv.com/news/21276357/detail.html

Casey Anthony’s defense team is asking for a change of venue for her check fraud trial, which could be scheduled at her next hearing on Friday.

The defense is also asking that each potential juror be questioned individually, out of earshot of the others called for jury duty.

They also do not want the jurors hearing her check fraud case to hear any of the evidence that comes out publicly in her murder case.

The comments mention that they already filed a COV for the fraud charges last May 14.

Maybe Jose just........... forgot?

[Sun]

Casey's Defense Wants Check Fraud Venue Change
http://www.wftv.com/news/21276357/detail.html

Casey Anthony’s defense team is asking for a change of venue for her check fraud trial, which could be scheduled at her next hearing on Friday.

The defense is also asking that each potential juror be questioned individually, out of earshot of the others called for jury duty.

They also do not want the jurors hearing her check fraud case to hear any of the evidence that comes out publicly in her murder case.

desmom, how come we can't get all this "breaking" stuff in the morning? I am so ready to hear what Judge Strickland has to say about getting the criminal check/fraud case underway.

[Sun]

He said something like the court was not going to help baez interfere with a criminal investigation....lol

Yes, that is the saying! Thanks! "interfere with a criminal investigation"

[Pruddennce]

I'm speechless at this incompetent motion. baez just doesn't get it that he can't just claim that the State willfully destroyed exculpable evidence, he has to prove it. Nowhere in this motion is there any proof the State acted in bad faith.

I cannot wait to hear Judge Strickland smack jose around the courtroom on Friday about this poor response. :laugh:

Im with you on this Scampi....this is RIDICULOUS. how was the investigation supposed to proceed? lift up a few leaves, turn over some dirt and call it a day and say oh, we only found a couple of human bones?

they dang near found every single piece of Caylee (sorry to use the term).

the defense is angry because their experts didnt FIND ANYTHING after they received permission to enter the scene. permission from the propery owner. protocol. everyone seems to follow it accept JB and company.

he provided NO PROOF...unless HL produces something 'small and white'....oops wrong case.....unless he produces something that clearly shows that EVERYONE investigating the crime ignored 'this one piece'.

he is lame-o. he is going to be hacked up in court. shame on them wasting the court's time on the SAME MOTION they presented before....they think by citing case law it is going to make it happen for them? case law that was adopted BECAUSE it was proven that x y z happened.

you are right. their assertions are groundless. they did not cite anything tangible that proves the crime scene was spoiled. they had to rely on the dictionary to explain it to themselves what the word meant....however, it didnt sink in. how elementary this team is, not one of them can get it right. first or second time around.

COMES NOW Judge Strickland.......

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[Sun]

Here is even more reading. The State's response is a "must read!"

Motion to Preclude the Death Penalty Procedures
Defense's Motion (9/30/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21163542/detail.html
State's Response (10/8/09): http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13088318

[martha]

From what you or all saying I don;t want to read any of this mess they or coming out with now. I just can;t believe this def.team. They or not seeing to this case at all. Just want to keep putting it of. More money in everyone pocket. I hope one day they will be made have a trial. Jmho:wub:

[desmom]

desmom, how come we can't get all this "breaking" stuff in the morning? I am so ready to hear what Judge Strickland has to say about getting the criminal check/fraud case underway.

Did you see the list at http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/CriminalSelect.aspx?SessionID=f9f2a793-9250-4311-bd1f-2bbc1f025cea :eek:

10/12/2009 EXHIBITS IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR CHANGE OF VENUE FILED

10/12/2009 EXHIBITS IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR A JURY QUESTIONNAIRE FILED

10/12/2009 EXHIBITS IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR INDIVIDUALLY SEQUESTERED JURY VOIR DIRE FILED

10/12/2009 EXHIBITS IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE TO PRECLUDE THE INTRODUCTION OF ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO MISS ANTHONY'S MURDER CASE

10/12/2009 EXHIBITS IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE OF ALLEGED PRIOR BAD ACTS

10/12/2009 BLANK JUROR INFORMATION SHEET FILED

10/12/2009 MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION IN LIMINE TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE OF ALLEGED PRIOR BAD ACTS

10/12/2009 DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE FILED TO PRECLUDE THE INTRODUCTION OF ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO MISS ANTHONY'S MURDER CASE

10/12/2009 MOTION IN LIMINE FILED TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE OF ALLEGED PRIOR BAD ACTS

10/12/2009 MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR CHANGE OF VENUE

10/12/2009 MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR A JURY QUESTIONNAIRE

10/12/2009 MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF MOTION FOR INDIVIDUALLY SEQUESTERED JURY VOIR DIRE

10/12/2009 MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE TO PRECLUDE THE INTRODUCTION OF ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO MISS ANTHONY'S MURDER CASE

10/12/2009 MOTION FOR ADMISSION TO APPEAR PRO HAC VICE

10/12/2009 MOTION FOR CHANGE OF VENUE

10/12/2009 MOTION FOR A JURY QUESTIONNAIRE

10/12/2009 MOTION FOR INDIVIDUALLY SEQUESTERED JURY VOIR DIRE

[denjet]

I have a hunch that Baez didn't hire anyone to set up the secure server. He probably used one of the law students he's been "teaching" and the guy had no clue how to set one up. It really isn't all that hard to set up a secure server. As for the "connectivity issues".. Well, it helps to have the server set up properly!
Bingo~! Hi Ana ... my take exactly ... it really isn't that hard, but it may require purchase of additional equipment and an IT person ... Jose seems to have a problem with spending any kind of money defending his client !! How many TES searchers has he deposed? Guess he's not going to spend any money on that either. Lest we forget the CD's with all of the tips (IIRC over 2,000 tips) that he wouldn't pay $900 for ... bet he still hasn't picked that up .... what a boob!!

[Sun]

Did you see the list at http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/CriminalSelect.aspx?SessionID=f9f2a793-9250-4311-bd1f-2bbc1f025cea :eek:

-snip-

I'll update with links to the criminal check/fraud stuff, just as soon as it becomes available. Do you think that you could assist with organizing some of these links, for further discussion in the morning? I'm about ready to call it quits for the evening.

[Pruddennce]

Here is even more reading. The State's response is a "must read!"

Motion to Preclude the Death Penalty Procedures
Defense's Motion (9/30/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21163542/detail.html
State's Response (10/8/09): http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13088318

thanks Sun....

who here can say they are surprised?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[denjet]

Somehow, the defense has to have access to the photos. That much is obvious. Why they waited eight months to send up a flare is what is just stunning to me. They haven't even got a good look at photos of the crime scene 10 months after the remains were discovered? A year after their client was sent to jail? WTH have they been doing for 10 months? It's just ... stunning.

Okay, I'm repeating myself. I'll stop.

And this tinkling contest over the term "spoliation" ... please! :punch:
This is priceless ... they're screaming from the mountain tops that the charges should be dismissed, the state shouldn't seek DP, spoilation of evidence .... blah, blah, blah ... NOW they say their experts haven't been able to examine the crime scene and autopsy photos which are crucial to the case ???? But they're saying she's innocent !! Without reviewing COMPLETELY the evidence against their client !! WTH !!

[Scampi]

OMG, poor Judge Stan having to wade thru all those motions. He'll have Excedrin headache number 13 before he's even halfway thru....

Oh and I love reading the comments that follow these articles in the newspapers, many people who write have adopted a very familar nic name for baez...... :lol:

[Sun]

OMG, poor Judge Stan having to wade thru all those motions. He'll have Excedrin headache number 13 before he's even halfway thru....

Oh and I love reading the comments that follow these articles in the newspapers, many people who write have adopted a very familar nic name for baez...... :lol:

One thing that I did notice. In Lyon's "spoliation" motion, it sets out that the State should respond within 30 days, and then the defense will reply to this Response in 10 days... Let's all count. State filed response on 9/23. Defense filed reply HOW MANY DAYS LATER!!!!

Motion To Dismiss Due To Spoliation Of Evidence
Defense Motion (9/17/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/20972702/detail.html
State's Response (9/23/09): http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21090992/detail.html
Defense Reply to the State's Response (10/12/09): http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13087975

[Pruddennce]

This is priceless ... they're screaming from the mountain tops that the charges should be dismissed, the state shouldn't seek DP, spoilation of evidence .... blah, blah, blah ... NOW they say their experts haven't been able to examine the crime scene and autopsy photos which are crucial to the case ???? But they're saying she's innocent !! Without reviewing COMPLETELY the evidence against their client !! WTH !!

Judge S should simply come out with:

everybody got what they need? no? why not?

you get this to them, you get that to them. TODAY. TOMORROW. set a date.

no issues with discovery? ok, LETS GET MOVING. we are done with motions about whether or not the DP is valid, whether there should or should not be a case against Casey A, Ive already ruled on THE CRIME SCENE....

his foot has to slam the breaks on.

pardon my extremely rudimentary imagined response by this judge....of course he will eloquently address the issues appropriately....but a good SMACK DOWN in between is needed IMO.

all this cart before the horse nonsense has to cease AND incompetent motions. is the entire defense really this incompetent or know they can get away with clogging up the system?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[martha]

That list is awful if I was Judge Strickland I would be so upset with the def.and all these motions. It seems the def.wants everything thown out or changed around so nothing will come in about casey.just don;t understand all this.jmho:wub:

[Sun]

Did you see the list at http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/CriminalSelect.aspx?SessionID=f9f2a793-9250-4311-bd1f-2bbc1f025cea :eek:

10/12/2009 EXHIBITS IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR CHANGE OF VENUE FILED

10/12/2009 EXHIBITS IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR A JURY QUESTIONNAIRE FILED

10/12/2009 EXHIBITS IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR INDIVIDUALLY SEQUESTERED JURY VOIR DIRE FILED

10/12/2009 EXHIBITS IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE TO PRECLUDE THE INTRODUCTION OF ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO MISS ANTHONY'S MURDER CASE

10/12/2009 EXHIBITS IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE OF ALLEGED PRIOR BAD ACTS

10/12/2009 BLANK JUROR INFORMATION SHEET FILED

10/12/2009 MEMORANDUM IN SUPPORT OF MOTION IN LIMINE TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE OF ALLEGED PRIOR BAD ACTS

10/12/2009 DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE FILED TO PRECLUDE THE INTRODUCTION OF ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO MISS ANTHONY'S MURDER CASE

10/12/2009 MOTION IN LIMINE FILED TO EXCLUDE EVIDENCE OF ALLEGED PRIOR BAD ACTS

10/12/2009 MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR CHANGE OF VENUE

10/12/2009 MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION FOR A JURY QUESTIONNAIRE

10/12/2009 MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF MOTION FOR INDIVIDUALLY SEQUESTERED JURY VOIR DIRE

10/12/2009 MEMORANDUM OF LAW IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDANT'S MOTION IN LIMINE TO PRECLUDE THE INTRODUCTION OF ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO MISS ANTHONY'S MURDER CASE

10/12/2009 MOTION FOR ADMISSION TO APPEAR PRO HAC VICE

10/12/2009 MOTION FOR CHANGE OF VENUE

10/12/2009 MOTION FOR A JURY QUESTIONNAIRE

10/12/2009 MOTION FOR INDIVIDUALLY SEQUESTERED JURY VOIR DIRE

Here you go. Happy reading everyone! 25 pages. (I'm done for the evening) Night, night everyone! Sweet dreams! :wub:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document-preview.aspx?doc_id=13093619

[denjet]

FYI ... what the heck is a limine?
I had to look it up:

Motion in limine (Latin: "at the threshold") is a motion made before the start of a trial requesting that the judge rule that certain evidence may, or may not, be introduced to the jury in a trial. This is done in judge's chambers, or in open court, but always out of hearing of the jury. If a question is to be decided in limine, it will be for the judge to decide. Usually it is used to shield the jury from possibly inadmissible and unfairly prejudicial evidence.

Guess they're a little worried about fraud case?
EXCLUDE EVIDENCE OF ALLEGED PRIOR BAD ACTS
is this stealing from family members and other friends who didn't file charges ???

PRECLUDE THE INTRODUCTION OF ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO MISS ANTHONY'S MURDER CASE

Come on ... so no one can say anything bad about KC? next they'll want the Target and BOA tapes thrown out !!

IMO The defense is bombarding the court with this to bully the court into putting this on a back burner ... once again ... COV ? ... sequested jury ??
Hello !! Your client is caught red-handed, she will not get off of this charge no matter where the trial is held or where the jurors come from ... so they may as well keep it in Orlando !! JMO

[Neffy]

Hmm.. I guess Baez couldn't find anyone that knows how to set up a secure server or his "experts" couldn't figure out how to access what he or his "IT" put on the server... Good grief. :rolleyes:

The other option is that Baez couldn't afford to have a secure server set up...


I thought Jose worked for Lexus Nexus setting up their internet security or something along those lines.

[denjet]

The defense readily whines they don't have half the evidence, then turns right around and wants the charges dismissed due to lack of evidence............... :lol:

I swear to God they don't know what they're doing!!!
I do too Scamp!
Guess they wanted to throw this at the court before a hearing date is made ?? I thought it was discussed by the state when this came up before that it's a rather simply proceeding that shouldn't take long and could be settled by a judge without needing a jury ... of course the defense would never agree to that ... :angry: