Monday Oct. 12,2009

[Texas48]

HaLeigh Marie Cummings:wub:

[Elvish2]

HaLeigh Marie Cummings:wub:


Thanks for the new thread Texas48. The HaLeigh coverage is about to come on the Early Show -CBS.

[Elvish2]

A candle to light HaLeigh's way.........



http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

[Texas48]

Thanks for the new thread Texas48. The HaLeigh coverage is about to come on the Early Show -CBS.
YW Elvish...and I read on last nights threads Ron is suppose to on with Misty...should be interesting to say the least.
Candle Link for little HaLeigh..:wub:


http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

[KaraokeDiva]

Misty says her story has not changed, it's remained the same because it's the truth. Asked about leaving the house, Amber denies it, say Timmy (or was it Tommy) was just trying to get out of jail.

It doesn't sound like Misty got to stay in NY for the weekend, the interview was announced as the remainder of Friday's interview.

And she does clairify that she meant Crystal when she said the other side of the family.

Ronald isn't there for the interview....the son is sick according to the atty.

[Elvish2]

Ron will NOT appear live this morning as Jr is home sick. His lawyer is on in his place.

[KaraokeDiva]

Are we allowed to say the name of the minor son now? I didn't wanna get banned for using his name, that's why I only referred to him as the son.

[Elle]

Misty should have really heeded the advice of her lawyer, when she had one.

imo

[HouseOfClark]

Misty says her story has not changed, it's remained the same because it's the truth. Asked about leaving the house, Amber denies it, say Timmy (or was it Tommy) was just trying to get out of jail.

It doesn't sound like Misty got to stay in NY for the weekend, the interview was announced as the remainder of Friday's interview.

And she does clairify that she meant Crystal when she said the other side of the family.

Ronald isn't there for the interview....the son is sick according to the atty.

BBM

Which is what everybody in the thinking world thought she meant.


JMO

[titanfan217]

Well, that whole thing was a waste.

[?noanswer]

Well, that whole thing was a waste.


I agree, but I did not expect much else. Some questions did arise, tho. RC's atty. said he did not know RC was not going to be on the show until just before show time. I guess he was talking from a remote location. Wonder if RC's interview would have been done from that same location if he had been on the show. Kinda sounds like he might not have been in the big Apple. JMO

[JackieBlu]

HaLeigh Marie Cummings:wub:


Thanks for the new thread Tex.

Prayers for Haleigh....come home soon baby girl.

[Neffy]

Misty should have really heeded the advice of her lawyer, when she had one.

imo

Agreed. She was probably lucky to even have one. She has no income to afford one so I'd imagine even though not being paid or just working off a retainer that gets eaten up quite quickly. His job is to defend Misty against accusations not doctor up bad press and statements created by Misty. She's created more work for an attorney. LE already had additional questions, now they will have even more. More time, more money, more headaches for any attorney.

New excuse to LE, sorry I don't have an attorney so I can't answer anything?

Hopefully then can find something on the books for an obstruction of justice charge for something she has said or will say to force her hand in getting more information.

[TaraCrazyHair]

Misty says her story has not changed, it's remained the same because it's the truth. Asked about leaving the house, Amber denies it, say Timmy (or was it Tommy) was just trying to get out of jail.

It doesn't sound like Misty got to stay in NY for the weekend, the interview was announced as the remainder of Friday's interview.

And she does clairify that she meant Crystal when she said the other side of the family.

Ronald isn't there for the interview....the son is sick according to the atty.Quick pop in .. don't you mean Misty not Amber?
:confused:

[Lqqkout]

Lynn Gweeney, Thank you so much for the links.

[FrankieBones1]

HaLeigh Marie Cummings:wub:
Good Morning Texsis and all. Sounds like we didn't miss much on the Early Show today.

[KaraokeDiva]

Quick pop in .. don't you mean Misty not Amber?
:confused:

Yes! I can't believe I didn't see my error there....don't know where that came from. I mean, I know there is a peripheral character in this saga with that name, but I don't know why I said Amber. Obviously it was Misty.

Duh on me.:rolleyes:

[?noanswer]

Misty's CBS interview. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5378346n

JMO

[?noanswer]

Another article.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-101209,0,3978376.story

And another

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/12/lawyer_haleighs_dad_concerned_over_stepmoms_statem ents.html


JMO

[Dunlurken]

Misty's CBS interview. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5378346n

JMO

Thank you for the link. I missed it this morning. So Misty is pointing the finger at Crystal or her family.

[MagicPool]

Thank you for the link. I missed it this morning. So Misty is pointing the finger at Crystal or her family.

I got a BAD feeling about Misty pointing the finger at Crystal's family. NOT a smart move on her part....especially saying that Crystal wasn't close to HaLeigh. What gives her that right? <shaking head> I have a feeling we're in for more drama that won't help in finding HaLeigh.

JMO

[Dunlurken]

I got a BAD feeling about Misty pointing the finger at Crystal's family. NOT a smart move on her part....especially saying that Crystal wasn't close to HaLeigh. What gives her that right? <shaking head> I have a feeling we're in for more drama that won't help in finding HaLeigh.

JMO

IMO, the bond between a mom and her child is something that can't be broken. Misty is young, and doesn't understand that yet. JMO. All of this takes us no closer to what happened to Haleigh though.

[Neffy]

Thank you for the link. I missed it this morning. So Misty is pointing the finger at Crystal or her family.

Hey Dunnie, explaining why her Brother would make the claim against her that she wasn't there and her explanation being "that's how my family is" doesn't bode well for her either.

[HouseOfClark]

Another article.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-101209,0,3978376.story

And another

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/12/lawyer_haleighs_dad_concerned_over_stepmoms_statem ents.html


JMO

From your first link:

Ronald Cummings, 25, wants to divorce Misty Croslin Cummings because of the stress the disappearance has placed on their marriage -- not because he thinks his wife was involved, the attorney said.

:rolleyes:

The stress of the disappearance was there BEFORE the marriage.

Speaks volumes, IMO.

[HouseOfClark]

I got a BAD feeling about Misty pointing the finger at Crystal's family. NOT a smart move on her part....especially saying that Crystal wasn't close to HaLeigh. What gives her that right? <shaking head> I have a feeling we're in for more drama that won't help in finding HaLeigh.

JMO

Especially now that she doesn't have a (probably free) attorney batting clean up for her now.

[Petal Pusher]

Misty's CBS interview. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5378346n

JMO

I'm so glad you posted this link, I missed the show this morning. I don't know if I believe any family members at all, not Ron's, Misty's or Crystal's. I don't know what to think anymore. I've never really thought Crystal was involved in HaLeigh's disappearance, but as of now, all I can do is throw my hands in the air and shake my head. I'm sitting right smack dab in the middle of the fence.

[?noanswer]

I'm so glad you posted this link, I missed the show this morning. I don't know if I believe any family members at all, not Ron's, Misty's or Crystal's. I don't know what to think anymore. I've never really thought Crystal was involved in HaLeigh's disappearance, but as of now, all I can do is throw my hands in the air and shake my head. I'm sitting right smack dab in the middle of the fence.

Lynn G. had already posted on the link thread (CW instructions), but I did not look there first (my bad!). I should have know LG was on top of it! JMO

[Petal Pusher]

IMO, the bond between a mom and her child is something that can't be broken. Misty is young, and doesn't understand that yet. JMO. All of this takes us no closer to what happened to Haleigh though.

I wonder if there was ever a bond between Misty and her mom? Misty may never understand a bond with parents. jmo

[Dunlurken]

Lynn G. had already posted on the link thread (CW instructions), but I did not look there first (my bad!). I should have know LG was on top of it! JMO

IMO, I think it's okay to bring links over from the link sticky. I will ask CW.

[?noanswer]

The PI should be in court today re the SO "unlawful arrest".

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

The link won't take you to the information. One has to go this page and search. http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/ext_app_sec/public_disclaimer.php

JMO

[MagicPool]

[QUOTE=?noanswer;13551482]The PI should be in court today re the SO "unlawful arrest".
[/URL]

A court date was set for Dec. 14th.


JMO

[?noanswer]

[quote=?noanswer;13551482]The PI should be in court today re the SO "unlawful arrest".
[/url]

A court date was set for Dec. 14th.


JMO

That was fast. Wonder why they keep continuing it? JMO

[DramaQueen]

Good morning all, thanks for all the links.

I don't feel like I am sitting on the fence, I feel like I am sitting squarely in the middle of a mud puddle. And I have no idea what to think.

I do not feel like anyone is any closer to finding Haleigh than we were in the beginning, but I hope the PCSO has me fooled on that one.

[MagicPool]

[quote=MagicPool;13551487]

That was fast. Wonder why they keep continuing it? JMO

I have no clue! Not sure I could post the link I found the info on, so I sent you a PM.

[Dunlurken]

I just heard back from CW. She said since there is "no discussion" on the links thread, we are allowed to bring the links over, and it would be helpful if you say "from the links thread", or provided by Lynn (or whomever), etc.

JMO.

Carry on!

[titanfan217]

[QUOTE=?noanswer;13551482]The PI should be in court today re the SO "unlawful arrest".
[/URL]

A court date was set for Dec. 14th.


JMO

LOL That's just about what someone on "the show" told him would happen, and I believe it was a December date.

[Dunlurken]

If it's on the links thread, you can bring it over. Does that clear it up? You cannot post links to other boards, etc. JMO.

[Survivor]

If it's on the links thread, you can bring it over. Does that clear it up? You cannot post links to other boards, etc. JMO.

You can link to other boards/forums.



01-29-2009, 10:59 AM
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Any further questions please contact me by PM & I'll add it here
Anything no made clear here, contact me by PM.

[Neffy]

The PI should be in court today re the SO "unlawful arrest".

http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/crim_dkts/frame.php

The link won't take you to the information. One has to go this page and search. http://www.putnam-fl.com/clk_apps/ext_app_sec/public_disclaimer.php

JMO

Todays a federal holiday. Is anything open?

[MagicPool]

Todays a federal holiday. Is anything open?

Putnum County Courts must be in session since he appeared and they set his trial date for Dec. 14th.

jmo

[Dunlurken]

You can link to other boards/forums.



01-29-2009, 10:59 AM
Coldwater
Member Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 541

Linking to Sites

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You may link to any site but you must check copyright first.
If it says AP (Associated Press) or ALL RIGHTS RESERVED, you may only copy the link & NOTHING ELSE.

Sites that are copyright you may post the link and ONE PARAGRAPH ONLY.

You may post links to another forum but NO copying of posts without the written permission of the author of the post.

You may post links to BLOGS, check copyright first, if none listed you may copy ONE PARAGRAPH only unless you have author's permission.
You may link to a book, but you MAY NOT copy anything from the book, they are copyrighted by author w/all rights reserved.

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Any further questions please contact me by PM & I'll add it here
Anything no made clear here, contact me by PM.I give up! Common sense does not prevail here. JMO.

It hasn't changed in the last 5 years.

[KittyMom]

Where exactly is Misty? Is she still the BFF of Donna Brock?

[?noanswer]

Todays a federal holiday. Is anything open?

Qood question. One would think they would not schedule anything for a date when the courts are closed! Who knows, doesn't seem anything follows the norm in this case. JMO

[Survivor]

I give up! Common sense does not prevail here. JMO.

It hasn't changed in the last 5 years.


I'm not following you Dunnie. What hasn't changed in 5 years? This is posted in the Helpful hints thread.


http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=339651

page #3

[?noanswer]

Where exactly is Misty? Is she still the BFF of Donna Brock?

Qood questions. It was posted she was staying with a friend in Satsuma, but friend was not identified. One could deduct that since she did not go back to DB's place, the BFF might be over, but then again what sounds like might be normal in this does not always prevail. JMO

[?noanswer]

Wonder if the Holiday will have an impact on the return of L. Croslin from TN. According to the http://public.pcso.us/jail/booking.aspx only one person has been booked since midnight. JMO

[Survivor]

Qood question. One would think they would not schedule anything for a date when the courts are closed! Who knows, doesn't seem anything follows the norm in this case. JMO


The Hughes vs MI trial is being broadcast LIVE today. Closing arguments soon.

[Darcy]

IMO, the bond between a mom and her child is something that can't be broken. Misty is young, and doesn't understand that yet. JMO. All of this takes us no closer to what happened to Haleigh though.




Dunlurken, I guess Casey Anthony never got that memo.:crying: Seriously, it is a lovely thought but is not actually accurate JMO. I am a Child Protection Social Worker and unfortunately have seen the evidence of cruel, dismissive and apathetic care by 'Mothers' where no 'bond' exists.

[sunstar]

Misty's CBS interview. http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=5378346n

JMO

Thanks so much ~ I overslept on my day off and missed it. So Misty thinks somebody on Crystal's side of the family took Haleigh but not Crystal herself. I'd really like to know why she thinks that, but at the end she says she doesn't know who did it. :shrug: MOO

[Lqqkout]

IMO, the bond between a mom and her child is something that can't be broken. Misty is young, and doesn't understand that yet. JMO. All of this takes us no closer to what happened to Haleigh though.

I must disagree, Dunnie. Many mother NEVER bond with their children

[Diamond1]

I must disagree, Dunnie. Many mother NEVER bond with their children

I have seen that, too. I always thought the mother/child bond was natural for all mothers. What causes some mothers not to bond with their child?

[Survivor]

I have seen that, too. I always thought the mother/child bond was natural for all mothers. What causes some mothers not to bond with their child?



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/3357276/Mothers-who-cant-bond-with-their-babies.html#

from link:

"It's meant to be love at first sight, but as many as one in five mothers find they cannot bond with their new baby,"

[Diamond1]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/3357276/Mothers-who-cant-bond-with-their-babies.html#

from link:

"It's meant to be love at first sight, but as many as one in five mothers find they cannot bond with their new baby,"

Thanks for the link. Very informative.

[dustyk]

Of course Crystal loved Haleigh!!! IMO she is saying someone other than Crystal because she knows Crystal passed that LDT...you know the one she failed. She seems to be reading message boards and seeing what some are saying about Crystal and throwing the blame on someone else. If in fact she slept through all of this and she doesn't know what happened why blame someone on Crystal's side. IMO she is the typical lying teenager. "I don't know...so and so did it" JMVHO

[Diamond1]

Of course Crystal loved Haleigh!!! IMO she is saying someone other than Crystal because she knows Crystal passed that LDT...you know the one she failed. She seems to be reading message boards and seeing what some are saying about Crystal and throwing the blame on someone else. If in fact she slept through all of this and she doesn't know what happened why blame someone on Crystal's side. IMO she is the typical lying teenager. "I don't know...so and so did it" JMVHO

Misty just wants the focus off of her. That is why she keeps saying "they just need to move on". mo

[dustyk]

Misty just wants the focus off of her. That is why she keeps saying "they just need to move on". mo
Misty was in their life maybe 5 months...How would she know if they were not close. IMO

[titanfan217]

Of course Crystal loved Haleigh!!! IMO she is saying someone other than Crystal because she knows Crystal passed that LDT...you know the one she failed. She seems to be reading message boards and seeing what some are saying about Crystal and throwing the blame on someone else. If in fact she slept through all of this and she doesn't know what happened why blame someone on Crystal's side. IMO she is the typical lying teenager. "I don't know...so and so did it" JMVHO

Wonder what Ron's attorney thought when he found out that it wasn't his client that she was pointing to -- at least this time Wonder if that had anything to do with him being on CBS this morning, and not RC.

[seeker]

According to Ronald Cummings attorney, Shoemaker, as of this morning, Ron believes that his daughter, HaLeigh is alive.

I am at a loss: Ron doesn't ever show signs that he is in distress of any kind thinking that this little girl is in the hands of someone who could be doing her harm. As Ron's advocate, Shoemaker made no plea to whoever has has an alive HaLeigh. Why? He had a national forum this morning.

Ronald's last "plea" - I think it was within the last week or so - once again was not at all convincing, Once again he stated she (HaLeigh) wasn't just a thing (usually he says "property"). He doesn't beg whoever has her to take care of her, he doesn't tell the person she is ill and needs medical care. He doesn't seem to believe what he is saying.

I am of the firm opinion that these natural signs a parent would show if they thought their beloved little girl was in the hands of an abductor are missing because Ronald Cummings knows he is not speaking to anyone; not to his daughter and not to anyone that has her.

My OPINIONS

[dustyk]

Wonder what Ron's attorney thought when he found out that it wasn't his client that she was pointing to -- at least this time Wonder if that had anything to do with him being on CBS this morning, and not RC.
IMO Rc's attorney knows there are those that are profiling them when they go on. JMO

[FrankieBones1]

I have seen that, too. I always thought the mother/child bond was natural for all mothers. What causes some mothers not to bond with their child?With Crystal I think it was drug use that might have caused her not to bond with her children. Hopefully she bonded with Chad's baby.

[dustyk]

With Crystal I think it was drug use that might have caused her not to bond with her children. Hopefully she bonded with Chad's baby.
What an awful thing to say...you could have at least put in your opinion in your post. JMO

[FrankieBones1]

Wonder what Ron's attorney thought when he found out that it wasn't his client that she was pointing to -- at least this time Wonder if that had anything to do with him being on CBS this morning, and not RC.

I thought the implication was quite clear on the Early Show of Friday. Misty was telling the world that it was Crystal's family that had Haleigh. How could a lawyer of all people get it wrong?

[sunstar]

Misty was in their life maybe 5 months...How would she know if they were not close. IMO

On the show she says Crystal herself said that.

[dustyk]

On the show she says Crystal herself said that.
She also says she failed her lie detector test because she feels guilty because she was the last one to see her. I don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth JMO

[FrankieBones1]

What an awful thing to say...you could have at least put in your opinion in your post. JMO
I put, "I think". That is my opinion. Weren't you all talking about Crystal? She is the biological mother of Haleigh. You do know she did drugs while pregnant, right. Please if you do not agree with me that is fine but you cannot disagree with the court docs!

[dustyk]

I put, "I think". That is my opinion. Weren't you all talking about Crystal? She is the biological mother of Haleigh. You do know she did drugs while pregnant, right. Please if you do not agree with me that is fine but you cannot disagree with the court docs!
No I don't know that and neither do you. JMO

[FrankieBones1]

I'm so glad you posted this link, I missed the show this morning. I don't know if I believe any family members at all, not Ron's, Misty's or Crystal's. I don't know what to think anymore. I've never really thought Crystal was involved in HaLeigh's disappearance, but as of now, all I can do is throw my hands in the air and shake my head. I'm sitting right smack dab in the middle of the fence.
Great post, Petal. This is how I feel most of the time about this case.

[sunstar]

She also says she failed her lie detector test because she feels guilty because she was the last one to see her. I don't believe a word that comes out of her mouth JMO

I keep wondering why there are never any pleas for Haleigh's safe return, or speaking directly to Haleigh telling her they love her, and so forth. It's always about "I know I was home and didn't do anything to that little girl" (paraphrased). It's really sad. :sad: MOO

[FrankieBones1]

Foxy said it best...from last night.

Originally Posted by FoxySly View Post
~

Dang it! I am bewildered by some who have literally made thousands of posts about this case but obviously have NEVER bothered to read the important COURT DOCUMENTS!!!

FACT in the COURT DOCUMENTS crystal was to lazy to get out of bed to take her precious Daughter to very important doctor appointments, even missing the rescheduled ones.

FACT in the COURT DOCUMENTS crystal admitted doing drugs while pregnant.

FACT crystal LIED saying her car was stolen which GTA is a felony. NG has document & crystal admitted to it.

FACT crystal didn't bother even seeing her Children those 4 days a month which is a big part of the reason Ron has them (see COURT DOCUMENTS).

FACT is crystal has a baby with her stepbrother who had a DV restraining order on him against "Child/ren for 2 1/2 years.

FACT crystal called her oldest 2 Children "BRATS" on her myspace along with taking care of her man (stepbrother) and baby.

The list of uglies crystal did/does could fill a book... but some will keep TRYING to make Ron the bad guy... even though it is RON THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR HIS CHILDREN without much of anything from crystal.

Ron police record shows just how much RON turned his life around when his Children came into his life. Ron is farrrrrrrrr from perfect but what crystal has done for precious HaLeigh & Jr is just a drop in the bucket compared to Ron filling that bucket.

I wonder if chad is still around & why has crystal NEVER made pleads for HaLeigh? Why hasn't crystal & chad been a force together searching for HaLeigh.
HaLeigh has been chad niece all her life.

Why was crystal totally pssed off about the media saying she couldn't be found instead of worried sick about the dumpster being searched???

Why was crystal saying how wonderful Ron was but when kp comes along they lied saying they had photos of the Children beaten to a bloody pulp.

Don't some ever get tried of making excuses for a dead beat 'mom' that don't do much of nothing for her 2 oldest precious Children?

Sly

[dustyk]

I keep wondering why there are never any pleas for Haleigh's safe return, or speaking directly to Haleigh telling her they love her, and so forth. It's always about "I know I was home and didn't do anything to that little girl" (paraphrased). It's really sad. :sad: MOO
Yes ITA it is sad! If drug use was the crime that was being investigated right now then yes Crystal is guilty of using drugs at some time in her life, so is Misty and Amber all have one thing in common and that is Ronald Cummings. WE know he also has dabbled with drug use a time or two. JMO

[Lqqkout]

What an awful thing to say...you could have at least put in your opinion in your post. JMO

FB did start the statement with "I think", so why are you so offended?

Ragarding how Misty could tell Chrystal hadn't bonded in the 5 months Misty had been there, your argument does not hold water. It is very easy to tell when a mother doesn't bond with her child and you don't need 5 months. I can tell in one conversation as I have met someone who never bonded. It is obvious.

[dustyk]

Foxy said it best...from last night.

Originally Posted by FoxySly View Post
~

Dang it! I am bewildered by some who have literally made thousands of posts about this case but obviously have NEVER bothered to read the important COURT DOCUMENTS!!!

FACT in the COURT DOCUMENTS crystal was to lazy to get out of bed to take her precious Daughter to very important doctor appointments, even missing the rescheduled ones.

FACT in the COURT DOCUMENTS crystal admitted doing drugs while pregnant.

FACT crystal LIED saying her car was stolen which GTA is a felony. NG has document & crystal admitted to it.

FACT crystal didn't bother even seeing her Children those 4 days a month which is a big part of the reason Ron has them (see COURT DOCUMENTS).

FACT is crystal has a baby with her stepbrother who had a DV restraining order on him against "Child/ren for 2 1/2 years.

FACT crystal called her oldest 2 Children "BRATS" on her myspace along with taking care of her man (stepbrother) and baby.

The list of uglies crystal did/does could fill a book... but some will keep TRYING to make Ron the bad guy... even though it is RON THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR HIS CHILDREN without much of anything from crystal.

Ron police record shows just how much RON turned his life around when his Children came into his life. Ron is farrrrrrrrr from perfect but what crystal has done for precious HaLeigh & Jr is just a drop in the bucket compared to Ron filling that bucket.

I wonder if chad is still around & why has crystal NEVER made pleads for HaLeigh? Why hasn't crystal & chad been a force together searching for HaLeigh.
HaLeigh has been chad niece all her life.

Why was crystal totally pssed off about the media saying she couldn't be found instead of worried sick about the dumpster being searched???

Why was crystal saying how wonderful Ron was but when kp comes along they lied saying they had photos of the Children beaten to a bloody pulp.

Don't some ever get tried of making excuses for a dead beat 'mom' that don't do much of nothing for her 2 oldest precious Children?

Sly
NOpe....she didn't have anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, my concern is that this child is missing and the latest of Ronald's drug using women is holding something back that LE wants her to tell. JMO

[dustyk]

FB did start the statement with "I think", so why are you so offended?

Ragarding how Misty could tell Chrystal hadn't bonded in the 5 months Misty had been there, your argument does not hold water. It is very easy to tell when a mother doesn't bond with her child and you don't need 5 months. I can tell in one conversation as I have met someone who never bonded. It is obvious.
Alll this because Misty says so...surely you have a better source than Misty. JMO

[Lqqkout]

Alll this because Misty says so...surely you have a better source than Misty. JMO

WHAT ?? Did you not read my post? I don't listen to Misty. I KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS NOT BONDED WITH THEIR CHILD. and it certainly did not take ME 5 months.

[FrankieBones1]

FB did start the statement with "I think", so why are you so offended?

Ragarding how Misty could tell Chrystal hadn't bonded in the 5 months Misty had been there, your argument does not hold water. It is very easy to tell when a mother doesn't bond with her child and you don't need 5 months. I can tell in one conversation as I have met someone who never bonded. It is obvious.

I totally agree. It's not rocket science.

[sunstar]

Yes ITA it is sad! If drug use was the crime that was being investigated right now then yes Crystal is guilty of using drugs at some time in her life, so is Misty and Amber all have one thing in common and that is Ronald Cummings. WE know he also has dabbled with drug use a time or two. JMO

The only thing that's important, imo, is what was going on with the people responsible for caring for Haleigh when she went missing. MOO

[dustyk]

WHAT ?? Did you not read my post? I don't listen to Misty. I KNOW SOMEONE WHO HAS NOT BONDED WITH THEIR CHILD. and it certainly did not take ME 5 months.
Oh so you weren't talking about Crystal...I didn't think so only someone that would be around them would know something like that. JMO

[Lqqkout]

I totally agree. It's not rocket science.

What frustrates me is when posters do not take the time to read posts in their entirety.

[FrankieBones1]

NOpe....she didn't have anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, my concern is that this child is missing and the latest of Ronald's drug using women is holding something back that LE wants her to tell. JMO
Are you aware that LE have cleared both biological parents?
Blaming Ron for Misty would be like blaming Crystal for allowing Ron to allow Misty. Putting the blame on Ron for it would be equal to saying that it's Crystal's fault for not protecting Haleigh because she didn't fight for custody or want custody of her kids. To blame Ronald would be like saying if Crystal was a better mother, Haleigh would have been living somewhere else and safe.

It doesn't make sense.

[seeker]

With Crystal I think it was drug use that might have caused her not to bond with her children. Hopefully she bonded with Chad's baby.

I don't get it. Misty goes on TV and, as she makes the outrageous accusation against Crystal, stating she (now) believes it is Crystal and her family who abducted HaLeigh, we are to take this as some kind of credible piece of information? For this young, very possibly guilty girl in the spotlight to state that Crystal wasn't closely bonded to HaLeigh, (or something close to that) this isn't even worth considering, to my way of thinking.

Now what a disturbed, troubled, lying seventeen year old girl says is becoming gospel. Nowhere has it been shown that Crystal is not bonded with HaLeigh, with Jr, or with her youngest daughter.

Where Is HaLeigh?

My strong opinion.

[Wallie]

Ya'll keep going around in circles! I'm getting dizzy!:blink:

IMO, Donald Lee Sapp is the person ya'll should be talking about. I know he has been mentioned here before...but very briefly. Don't you think he warrants the same scrutiny as Misty, Ron and Crystal? :shrug:

[Diamond1]

Misty was in their life maybe 5 months...How would she know if they were not close. IMO

She doesn't know. All Misty is doing is trying to get the focus off of herself by pointing at everyone else. mo

[seeker]

On the show she says Crystal herself said that.

Why would we believe anything that Misty has to say? Especially about the woman she just accused of the crime against HaLeigh?

[dustyk]

Are you aware that LE have cleared both biological parents?
Blaming Ron for Misty would be like blaming Crystal for allowing Ron to allow Misty. Putting the blame on Ron for it would be equal to saying that it's Crystal's fault for not protecting Haleigh because she didn't fight for custody or want custody of her kids. To blame Ronald would be like saying if Crystal was a better mother, Haleigh would have been living somewhere else and safe.

It doesn't make sense.
YOu do have an interesting way of twisting things. Courts awarded the children to Ronald's care not Crystal and Ronald chose to leave them with Misty. These children are not Misty's they are Ronald's and he left them in the care of a drug using teenager that he obviously didn't trust or else he wouldn't have called 20 times to check on her. He gambled with these children and one of them is gone. JMO

[Diamond1]

Are you aware that LE have cleared both biological parents?
Blaming Ron for Misty would be like blaming Crystal for allowing Ron to allow Misty. Putting the blame on Ron for it would be equal to saying that it's Crystal's fault for not protecting Haleigh because she didn't fight for custody or want custody of her kids. To blame Ronald would be like saying if Crystal was a better mother, Haleigh would have been living somewhere else and safe.

It doesn't make sense.

LE did not say they were "cleared". The case is unsolved and no one has been cleared. mo

[2boysMom]

NOpe....she didn't have anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, my concern is that this child is missing and the latest of Ronald's drug using women is holding something back that LE wants her to tell. JMO

bbm

which would include Crystal.

[seeker]

[QUOTE=FrankieBones1;13551936]Foxy said it best...from last night.

~snipped for space~

Sounds like a good old-fashioned Witch Hunt!

[Diamond1]

Why would we believe anything that Misty has to say? Especially about the woman she just accused of the crime against HaLeigh?



I personaly do not believe anything Ron or Misty have said. They are not telling everything they know. JMO

[Diamond1]

With Crystal I think it was drug use that might have caused her not to bond with her children. Hopefully she bonded with Chad's baby.

Misty is the only person to say that and coming from her IT IS NOT TRUE. Misty has lied about everything. mo

[HouseOfClark]

Why is it that documents/hearings from 2005 are brought up every single day to attack the mother of a missing child with the thought that she couldn't possibly have changed in the last four years;

But drug arrests of the father from the same time period are just dismissed because "he's changed" and "he's not the same person"?

This is getting old.

Old documents and court cases and arrests HAVE ZERO TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENED ON THE NIGHT OF 2/9/09.

JMO

[Dunlurken]

Why is it that documents/hearings from 2005 are brought up every single day to attack the mother of a missing child with the thought that she couldn't possibly have changed in the last four years;

But drug arrests of the father from the same time period are just dismissed because "he's changed" and "he's not the same person"?

This is getting old.

Old documents and court cases and arrests HAVE ZERO TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENED ON THE NIGHT OF 2/9/09.

JMO
BINGO, and well said.

[sunstar]

Why would we believe anything that Misty has to say? Especially about the woman she just accused of the crime against HaLeigh?



I was just stating what was in the tv interview ~ and no, I don't believe her either! MOO

[Diamond1]

http://ow.ly/u0hN

From the article....Ron believes Haleigh is okay.

How can he believe that after 8 months if he does not know where she is or who has her?

[seeker]

Are you aware that LE have cleared both biological parents?
Blaming Ron for Misty would be like blaming Crystal for allowing Ron to allow Misty. Putting the blame on Ron for it would be equal to saying that it's Crystal's fault for not protecting Haleigh because she didn't fight for custody or want custody of her kids. To blame Ronald would be like saying if Crystal was a better mother, Haleigh would have been living somewhere else and safe.

It doesn't make sense.

Bolding by me.

Are you aware that you are posting false information?

Saying that Ron has been cleared, or even Crystal, for that matter won't make it come true. No matter how many times you attempt to spread this misinformation. Let's not forget that Ronald L. Cummings own attorney, the one we saw this morning, has stated that Ron is still on the list of suspects.

[sunstar]

Why is it that documents/hearings from 2005 are brought up every single day to attack the mother of a missing child with the thought that she couldn't possibly have changed in the last four years;

But drug arrests of the father from the same time period are just dismissed because "he's changed" and "he's not the same person"?

This is getting old.

Old documents and court cases and arrests HAVE ZERO TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENED ON THE NIGHT OF 2/9/09.

JMO
(bolding mine)

I couldn't agree more! thank you! :smile: The only thing that matters is who and what was going on when Haleigh disappeared. MOO

[Diamond1]

Why is it that documents/hearings from 2005 are brought up every single day to attack the mother of a missing child with the thought that she couldn't possibly have changed in the last four years;

But drug arrests of the father from the same time period are just dismissed because "he's changed" and "he's not the same person"?

This is getting old.

Old documents and court cases and arrests HAVE ZERO TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENED ON THE NIGHT OF 2/9/09.

JMO

I agree. Focus is on Ronald Cummings and Misty and their actions before, during and after Haleigh's reported disappearance. MO

[Diamond1]

Bolding by me.

Are you aware that you are posting false information?

Saying that Ron has been cleared, or even Crystal, for that matter won't make it come true. No matter how many times you attempt to spread this misinformation. Let's not forget that Ronald L. Cummings own attorney, the one we saw this morning, has stated that Ron is still on the list of suspects.

That is correct. There is no way LE can clear anybody because the case is unsolved. Ronald Cummings has not been cleared. Period.

[Dunlurken]

http://ow.ly/u0hN

From the article....Ron believes Haleigh is okay.

How can he believe that after 8 months if he does not know where she is or who has her?

He's in Egypt. And if anyone doesn't understand what I mean by that, then they need to read more and post less. JMO.

[seeker]

Ya'll keep going around in circles! I'm getting dizzy!:blink:

IMO, Donald Lee Sapp is the person ya'll should be talking about. I know he has been mentioned here before...but very briefly. Don't you think he warrants the same scrutiny as Misty, Ron and Crystal? :shrug:

WHY would this man warrant scrutiny when the two people who were taking care of HaLeigh when she vanished cannot tell the truth?

If they are cleared some day, then looking at others would be prudent.

my opinion.

[MagicPool]

http://ow.ly/u0hN

From the article....Ron believes Haleigh is okay.

How can he believe that after 8 months if he does not know where she is or who has her?

Can't fault him for having hope. It's all they've got at this point.

JMO

[sunstar]

http://ow.ly/u0hN

From the article....Ron believes Haleigh is okay.

How can he believe that after 8 months if he does not know where she is or who has her?

I think there are a lot of parents of missing children who still cling to the hope that their child is alive and being cared for. He can believe whatever he wants to, imo, but sadly it doesn't mean it's true. :sad: MOO

[Tracian]

http://ow.ly/u0hN

From the article....Ron believes Haleigh is okay.

How can he believe that after 8 months if he does not know where she is or who has her?




Many families of missing children hold the faith that they are alive. Just check out all the age progression photographs on various missing person sites; and miracles do happen:

Elizabeth Smart
Sean Hornsbeck
Jaycee Dugard
Shasta Grone


(pardon if some of the last name are not spelt correctly)

[dustyk]

I noticed Ronald's attorney said Ronald was at a friend's house and that Jr is sick. Wonder why they are not at AS's house. Could it be that she is tired of all of the lies herself and they no longer live there. Just Wondering. JMO

[Diamond1]

Many families of missing children hold the faith that they are alive. Just check out all the age progression photographs on various missing person sites; and miracles do happen:

Elizabeth Smart
Sean Hornsbeck
Jaycee Dugard
Shasta Grone


(pardon if some of the last name are not spelt correctly)

Alive yes but not one of those listed were "okay" . They endured horrible circumstances everyday. That is the difference in alive and "okay". mo

[Tracian]

I think there are a lot of parents of missing children who still cling to the hope that their child is alive and being cared for. He can believe whatever he wants to, imo, but sadly it doesn't mean it's true. :sad: MOO


ITA. Of course because Ron has said this, it has some dark meaning; and if he would have said something about loosing hope to get her back alive, some would be horrified that he as a father could even think such a thing.

[HouseOfClark]

Foxy said it best...from last night.

Originally Posted by FoxySly View Post
~

Dang it! I am bewildered by some who have literally made thousands of posts about this case but obviously have NEVER bothered to read the important COURT DOCUMENTS!!!

FACT in the COURT DOCUMENTS crystal was to lazy to get out of bed to take her precious Daughter to very important doctor appointments, even missing the rescheduled ones.

FACT in the COURT DOCUMENTS crystal admitted doing drugs while pregnant.

FACT crystal LIED saying her car was stolen which GTA is a felony. NG has document & crystal admitted to it.

FACT crystal didn't bother even seeing her Children those 4 days a month which is a big part of the reason Ron has them (see COURT DOCUMENTS).

FACT is crystal has a baby with her stepbrother who had a DV restraining order on him against "Child/ren for 2 1/2 years.

FACT crystal called her oldest 2 Children "BRATS" on her myspace along with taking care of her man (stepbrother) and baby.

The list of uglies crystal did/does could fill a book... but some will keep TRYING to make Ron the bad guy... even though it is RON THAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR HIS CHILDREN without much of anything from crystal.

Ron police record shows just how much RON turned his life around when his Children came into his life. Ron is farrrrrrrrr from perfect but what crystal has done for precious HaLeigh & Jr is just a drop in the bucket compared to Ron filling that bucket.

I wonder if chad is still around & why has crystal NEVER made pleads for HaLeigh? Why hasn't crystal & chad been a force together searching for HaLeigh.
HaLeigh has been chad niece all her life.

Why was crystal totally pssed off about the media saying she couldn't be found instead of worried sick about the dumpster being searched???

Why was crystal saying how wonderful Ron was but when kp comes along they lied saying they had photos of the Children beaten to a bloody pulp.

Don't some ever get tried of making excuses for a dead beat 'mom' that don't do much of nothing for her 2 oldest precious Children?

Sly

FACT: Haleigh also lived with Ron. Which doctor's appointments did he take Haleigh to and which ones has he taken her to since?

FACT: Crystal admitted to using drugs a "a year ago" in 2005. (Ronald never admitted using any drugs nor any arrests for drug possession.)

FACT: Crystal was never prosecuted for lying about the stolen vehicle. As such, we don't have any of the facts surrounding that. (When Ron's not prosecuted, some believe there was just no evidence so why would that differ from Crystal's case?)

FACT: Crystal didn't even bother seeing her children? Based on whose word? Ron's?

FACT: Chad's restraining order was NOT for domestic violence against children - his or anyone else's. It was domestic violence with children, meaning there were children in the home.

FACT: Posting that Crystal has a child with her stepbrother is just another way to claim that child is the product of an incestuous relationship. It is disgusting the underhanded ways this mother of a missing child is attacked - yes attacked - on this very board by people who should know better.

Yes, let's talk about drug arrest records. Crystal's? Oh yes, that's right she doesn't have one.

I'm sorry, but if the post from last night is what you're using to prove a point, it's not working.

JMO

[Tracian]

Alive yes but not one of those listed were "okay" . They endured horrible circumstances everyday. That is the difference in alive and "okay". mo


Talk about splitting hairs.


Ron said it, so it must be bad.

Right, Duly noted.


I guess what he should have said," I think she is alive, living in horror each and every day..."

[FrankieBones1]

Can't fault him for having hope. It's all they've got at this point.

JMO

That's right, Magic. Besides, there's no proof that Haleigh is dead. Ronald Cummings has every right to believe that his daughter is still alive.

[FrankieBones1]

I noticed Ronald's attorney said Ronald was at a friend's house and that Jr is sick. Wonder why they are not at AS's house. Could it be that she is tired of all of the lies herself and they no longer live there. Just Wondering. JMO

What a horrible thing to say.

[Dunlurken]

Many families of missing children hold the faith that they are alive. Just check out all the age progression photographs on various missing person sites; and miracles do happen:

Elizabeth Smart
Sean Hornsbeck
Jaycee Dugard
Shasta Grone


(pardon if some of the last name are not spelt correctly)Yes, but how many are murdered each and every day? It's a sad, cold, fact.

You named 4 out of hundreds that go missing every day, never to be seen again. JMO. Reality is something to check each and every day.

[FrankieBones1]

WHY would this man warrant scrutiny when the two people who were taking care of HaLeigh when she vanished cannot tell the truth?

If they are cleared some day, then looking at others would be prudent.

my opinion.


So neither Ronald or Crystal have been cleared yet? Does that mean they are both suspects?

[dustyk]

So neither Ronald or Crystal have been cleared yet? Does that mean they are both suspects?

Have to wonder here are you concerned about Haleigh or ronald. jMO

[Tracian]

Yes, but how many are murdered each and every day? It's a sad, cold, fact.

You named 4 out of hundreds that go missing every day, never to be seen again. JMO. Reality is something to check each and every day.


I am sure there are more children that are found; these where high profile cases.

I think it is nothing short of cruel to attack a family member of a missing person as being in 'denial' when they hold out hope their loved one is still alive.

[FrankieBones1]

Yes, but how many are murdered each and every day? It's a sad, cold, fact.

You named 4 out of hundreds that go missing every day, never to be seen again. JMO. Reality is something to check each and every day.
Those are just a few famous cases. There's much more that we probably don't hear about. What Tracian is trying to convey is that miracles do happen. Parents have to hang on to hope.

[Dunlurken]

I am sure there are more children that are found; these where high profile cases.

I think it is nothing short of cruel to attack a family member of a missing person as being in 'denial' when they hold out hope their loved one is still alive.

Let's not get in a pizzing match here. You are a respectable poster that I've known for a long time.

Can everyone stick to the facts, of which we have NONE! Except that Haleigh went missing on Misty's watch. Misty's comments are inconsistent. What is an intelligent person to think? JMO.

[titanfan217]

I don't get it. Misty goes on TV and, as she makes the outrageous accusation against Crystal, stating she (now) believes it is Crystal and her family who abducted HaLeigh, we are to take this as some kind of credible piece of information? For this young, very possibly guilty girl in the spotlight to state that Crystal wasn't closely bonded to HaLeigh, (or something close to that) this isn't even worth considering, to my way of thinking.

Now what a disturbed, troubled, lying seventeen year old girl says is becoming gospel. Nowhere has it been shown that Crystal is not bonded with HaLeigh, with Jr, or with her youngest daughter.

Where Is HaLeigh?

My strong opinion.


I guess now we're suppose to believe that Misty had an epiphany, but actually I believe she was only reporting what she'd read on a message board.

[FrankieBones1]

Have to wonder here are you concerned about Haleigh or ronald. jMO

How did you come to that end from my post?

[Dunlurken]

So neither Ronald or Crystal have been cleared yet? Does that mean they are both suspects?
LE sure isn't helping the situation are they? :confused:

[titanfan217]

YOu do have an interesting way of twisting things. Courts awarded the children to Ronald's care not Crystal and Ronald chose to leave them with Misty. These children are not Misty's they are Ronald's and he left them in the care of a drug using teenager that he obviously didn't trust or else he wouldn't have called 20 times to check on her. He gambled with these children and one of them is gone. JMO


I wonder if the 20 phone calls had anything to do with lack of trust. If so, why didn't he clear it with his supervisor, and really check on her OR call his mom. She was obviously close enough to be there in 5-10 minutes.

I think the 20 phone calls was just being pissed that she would dare not talk to him again.

[Tracian]

Let's not get in a pizzing match here. You are a respectable poster that I've known for a long time.

Can everyone stick to the facts, of which we have NONE! Except that Haleigh went missing on Misty's watch. Misty's comments are inconsistent. What is an intelligent person to think? JMO.


Thank you, and likewise, Dunny.

Misty is IMO, going to slip up soon, even her lawyer bailed--not a good sign.

Quoting Ron:

"Whoever is responsible, let 'em fry"

And yes, that would include Ron should the evidence support his guilt.

[Elle]

There was a link posted last week of video pic's of Ron, Crystal, Haleigh & even Jr., I was struck by the genuine love I saw in the pics..Ron looking very lovingly at his daughter..even Crystal and Haleigh's pic's together looked very loving. MOO

I too don't believe a word that comes out of Misty's mouth. She was there 5 months for God's sake..where does she get off formulating an opinion like Crystal & Haleigh had not bonded...she is full of it. again..MOO

I don't know if this is it, but this video breaks my heart. The pain is, imo, palpable in several photos and the love imo is undeniable. I know what is said about pictures, I don't care. It's what I see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o3DbkF8Gxk
'When I look to the sky'

[Lqqkout]

Does anyone think Chrystal or her lawyer will come out swinging? I would like to see her show some concern over what has been said by Misty? Maybe a showdown would blow this open. But, I don't see Chrystal doing anthing, but her mother might.

Does anyone have any ideas as to why Lisa is still in TN and not back in PC being questioned?

[sunstar]

ITA. Of course because Ron has said this, it has some dark meaning; and if he would have said something about loosing hope to get her back alive, some would be horrified that he as a father could even think such a thing.

Or if he didn't have this hope that she's alive, that he must know what happened to her, and who killed her. MOO

[dustyk]

I wonder if the 20 phone calls had anything to do with lack of trust. If so, why didn't he clear it with his supervisor, and really check on her OR call his mom. She was obviously close enough to be there in 5-10 minutes.

I think the 20 phone calls was just being pissed that she would dare not talk to him again.
I think you are right and wondering just how pissed he was. Somone had to have a key to that door. JMO

[FrankieBones1]

LE sure isn't helping the situation are they? :confused:

It's hard to read LE when they don't give out much info. We really don't know what they know or how much they know. It's possible that they've got so many suspects and so many theories that it'll take forever to solve this case.

[Dunlurken]

Thank you, and likewise, Dunny.

Misty is IMO, going to slip up soon, even her lawyer bailed--not a good sign.

Quoting Ron:

"Whoever is responsible, let 'em fry"

And yes, that would include Ron should the evidence support his guilt.
I agree. I fault him for leaving the kids with Misty if nothing else. JMO.

[titanfan217]

http://ow.ly/u0hN

From the article....Ron believes Haleigh is okay.

How can he believe that after 8 months if he does not know where she is or who has her?


Under the circumstance, the only way I'd think she was okay was in heaven. Otherwise at minimum, missing mommy, brother, and dad ain't being okay especially wondering why nobody is coming to get her.

[Dunlurken]

It's hard to read LE when they don't give out much info. We really don't know what they know or how much they know. It's possible that they've got so many suspects and so many theories that it'll take forever to solve this case.That's why I'm thinking it will go cold. Very sad. :sad:

What's the old saying: When you lay down in the dirt you come up smelling bad.....LOL.

[titanfan217]

I noticed Ronald's attorney said Ronald was at a friend's house and that Jr is sick. Wonder why they are not at AS's house. Could it be that she is tired of all of the lies herself and they no longer live there. Just Wondering. JMO

I thought Ron was in NY.

[FrankieBones1]

I don't know if this is it, but this video breaks my heart. The pain is, imo, palpable in several photos and the love imo is undeniable. I know what is said about pictures, I don't care. It's what I see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o3DbkF8Gxk
'When I look to the sky'
These pics do not lie. What a beautiful montage.

[titanfan217]

LE sure isn't helping the situation are they? :confused:


Neither is Misty.

[Lqqkout]

I thought Ron was in NY.

No, he did not go to NY because Jr. is sick.

[panman]

Yes ITA it is sad! If drug use was the crime that was being investigated right now then yes Crystal is guilty of using drugs at some time in her life, so is Misty and Amber all have one thing in common and that is Ronald Cummings. WE know he also has dabbled with drug use a time or two. JMO

Did I just misunderstand that you posted Frankie doesn't know that and neither do you? And now you do know?

[Lqqkout]

That's why I'm thinking it will go cold. Very sad. :sad:

What's the old saying: When you lay down in the dirt you come up smelling bad.....LOL.

Where I live, the saying goes "when you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas."

[titanfan217]

No, he did not go to NY because Jr. is sick.

And CBS and RC's attorney didn't know that until the last minute...

Ummm.

[Dunlurken]

Where I live, the saying goes "when you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas."

Maybe that's what I was trying to say. I've heard it many different ways and was trying to be kind.

In the montage, there are no pictures of Misty. She just gets my hackles up because she is not telling the truth IMO.

[FrankieBones1]

Maybe that's what I was trying to say. I've heard it many different ways and was trying to be kind.

In the montage, there are no pictures of Misty. She just gets my hackles up because she is not telling the truth IMO.

You'll have to watch it again. Misty is indeed in there. Not often but she's in there on the couch with Haleigh and another child I don't recognize but maybe her niece.

[FrankieBones1]

Neither is Misty.Isn't that just stating the honest to goodness obvious?

[Texas48]

According to Ronald Cummings attorney, Shoemaker, as of this morning, Ron believes that his daughter, HaLeigh is alive.

I am at a loss: Ron doesn't ever show signs that he is in distress of any kind thinking that this little girl is in the hands of someone who could be doing her harm. As Ron's advocate, Shoemaker made no plea to whoever has has an alive HaLeigh. Why? He had a national forum this morning.

Ronald's last "plea" - I think it was within the last week or so - once again was not at all convincing, Once again he stated she (HaLeigh) wasn't just a thing (usually he says "property"). He doesn't beg whoever has her to take care of her, he doesn't tell the person she is ill and needs medical care. He doesn't seem to believe what he is saying.

I am of the firm opinion that these natural signs a parent would show if they thought their beloved little girl was in the hands of an abductor are missing because Ronald Cummings knows he is not speaking to anyone; not to his daughter and not to anyone that has her.

My OPINIONS
Before I even begin to post I know it will NOT change your mind or even get you to THINK about what I am about to say...and consider it..
You seem very intelligent in your writings seeker so......................do you NOT realize many many ppl are NOT like me....maybe NOT like you and maybe not like some on this board that SHOWS emotion...carrys their hearts on their sleeve...I would be a blubbering idiot trying to ASK for the return of my daughter/grandaughter/relative..Heck for any human being and even animals...thats just me.
That does NOT appear to be Ronald Cummings...not in his everyday life with everyday words even..and NOT breaking down on national TV does NOT make hime a bad person...some just can't show that type of emotion in public....who knows..maybe he breaks down to a weeping crump on the floor every night....
I cannot judge any person for being different than me....in any way...nor would I want them to be...
Its just my observation that I can tell Ron is not like you..not up to your standards..but why must you judge him for every word..expression...movement that comes from him..? IDK where HaLeigh is and IDK if Ron knows if she is alive or dead but thats HIS CHOICE as to what he thinks..what he says..and what he does...
Just try and step back and understand this man is in no way similar to you..but he is HaLeigh's daddy....I will respect him for that untill I find proof otherwise...JMO and thoughts..

[Dunlurken]

Hey Tex! Why do you think Ron married Misty? I know we aren't inside their heads, but experience and "living" does give some insight. JMO.

[FrankieBones1]

TexSis,
He is darned if he does and darned if he doesn't. Remember those earlier video clips of Ronald and Crystal and the families where Ronald is inconsolable? He is a broken man, in tears and his pain is palpable? Well, you'll hear the haters say he was faking.

What on earth is this poor man to do?

[Elle]

No, he did not go to NY because Jr. is sick.

I know Ron was scheduled to be live on the show this morning, but I thought they meant live via satelite. Then he couldn't make it to the local affiliate because Jr. was sick. I didn't take 'live' to mean in the studio, but just 'live'.
imoo

[seeker]

That's right, Magic. Besides, there's no proof that Haleigh is dead. Ronald Cummings has every right to believe that his daughter is still alive.

Of course he does!

And if he does, than WHY doesn't Ronald L. Cummings behave like he believes that his young, ill daughter is ALIVE and in peril every moment that she is not found?

[Dunlurken]

TexSis,
He is darned if he does and darned if he doesn't. Remember those earlier video clips of Ronald and Crystal and the families where Ronald is inconsolable? He is a broken man, in tears and his pain is palpable? Well, you'll hear the haters say he was faking.

What on earth is this poor man to do?

I'll ask you the same question. Why did he marry Misty? :confused: Shock?

[Lqqkout]

Before I even begin to post I know it will NOT change your mind or even get you to THINK about what I am about to say...and consider it..
You seem very intelligent in your writings seeker so......................do you NOT realize many many ppl are NOT like me....maybe NOT like you and maybe not like some on this board that SHOWS emotion...carrys their hearts on their sleeve...I would be a blubbering idiot trying to ASK for the return of my daughter/grandaughter/relative..Heck for any human being and even animals...thats just me.
That does NOT appear to be Ronald Cummings...not in his everyday life with everyday words even..and NOT breaking down on national TV does NOT make hime a bad person...some just can't show that type of emotion in public....who knows..maybe he breaks down to a weeping crump on the floor every night....
I cannot judge any person for being different than me....in any way...nor would I want them to be...
Its just my observation that I can tell Ron is not like you..not up to your standards..but why must you judge him for every word..expression...movement that comes from him..? IDK where HaLeigh is and IDK if Ron knows if she is alive or dead but thats HIS CHOICE as to what he thinks..what he says..and what he does...
Just try and step back and understand this man is in no way similar to you..but he is HaLeigh's daddy....I will respect him for that untill I find proof otherwise...JMO and thoughts..

Excellent and heartfelt post ! :rose: I agree with every word.

[panman]

[QUOTE=FrankieBones1;13551936]Foxy said it best...from last night.

~snipped for space~

Sounds like a good old-fashioned Witch Hunt!

Witch Doctor is more like it when someone pretends to explain the enabling and excusing of Crystal, IMO of course

[FrankieBones1]

Dun, I'm not Tex but I'd like to answer, too. I think that he married her out of grief. I think he was crazy with saddness and it seemed like the right thing to do. He may have thought Misty was totally innocent in all this and didn't know how to sort out the inconsistencies in his head.

Or may he did want to keep his enemy closer. You need to remember that these people are not like us. The love and hurt the same way but act differently in situations than us.
imo

[dustyk]

Hey Tex! Why do you think Ron married Misty? I know we aren't inside their heads, but experience and "living" does give some insight. JMO.
Not Tex but I think Ronld married her because of her being underage and he is divorcing her because of the heat for staying with her after the inconsistencies. It is all about what makes him look good. IMO

[Dunlurken]

Dun, I'm not Tex but I'd like to answer, too. I think that he married her out of grief. I think he was crazy with saddness and it seemed like the right thing to do. He may have thought Misty was totally innocent in all this and didn't know how to sort out the inconsistencies in his head.

Or may he did want to keep his enemy closer. You need to remember that these people are not like us. The love and hurt the same way but act differently in situations than us.
imo
Thanks Frankie. I did ask you the same question, but you were obviously typing. I think the "us" makes me think I haven't totally lost my mind. Some days I wonder. Why don't people "get it"?
JMO. We will never know I guess.

[dustyk]

[QUOTE=seeker;13552037]

Witch Doctor is more like it when someone pretends to explain the enabling and excusing of Crystal, IMO of course
Why would Crystal need to be enabled or excused did she have anything to do with Haleigh being missing? JMO

[seeker]

So neither Ronald or Crystal have been cleared yet? Does that mean they are both suspects?
I believe that is what it means. We have Ron's own attorney stating that Ron is still on the list of suspects. No one that I have heard has disputed that Crystal is "not considered a suspect."

[titanfan217]

Not Tex but I think Ronld married her because of her being underage and he is divorcing her because of the heat for staying with her after the inconsistencies. It is all about what makes him look good. IMO

Not working too well.

[seeker]

Does anyone think Chrystal or her lawyer will come out swinging? I would like to see her show some concern over what has been said by Misty? Maybe a showdown would blow this open. But, I don't see Chrystal doing anthing, but her mother might.

Does anyone have any ideas as to why Lisa is still in TN and not back in PC being questioned?
Some people choose not to respond to outrageous allegations. It is sometimes a case of taking the higher road.

If Crystal does choose to respond, that will also be good.

Whether or not she responds publicly has no bearing on what she feels or thinks about Misty's comments or anything else in her own life; especially her feelings regarding what happened to her precious little girl.

my opinions

[panman]

Have to wonder here are you concerned about Haleigh or ronald. jMO

What a terrible thing to say. mo

[Lqqkout]

I think you are right and wondering just how pissed he was. Somone had to have a key to that door. JMO

Not Tex but I think Ronld married her because of her being underage and he is divorcing her because of the heat for staying with her after the inconsistencies. It is all about what makes him look good. IMO

You obviously have such hatred for this man, that I am guessing that you feel Ron killed his daughter. How do you think he did that? What is your theory ?

[FoxySly]

I got a BAD feeling about Misty pointing the finger at Crystal's family. NOT a smart move on her part....especially saying that Crystal wasn't close to HaLeigh. What gives her that right? <shaking head> I have a feeling we're in for more drama that won't help in finding HaLeigh.

JMO

BBM

Fact is that misty spent a lot more time with the Children then crystal did in those last 6 months.

Doing the math if you average 30 days a month for 6 months = 180 days.
During those 180 days (6 months) crystal had them at the most 24 days if she did in fact take them 4 days a month.

156 days compared to crystal's 24 days leads me to believe misty knew crystal's Children much better then their own mom having them 24 days (if that, the COURT DOCUMENTS mention crystal's lack of visitation).

crystal also wrote on her myspace page about taking care of her man and baby and the other 2 "BRATS".
Children have feelings, they know when they are wanted and loved.

Dang it, even a dog knows when it's been stepped on accidentally or intentionally kicked. :sad:

Sly

~

[seeker]

Originally Posted by Dunlurken View Post
LE sure isn't helping the situation are they?

Neither is Misty.

Neither is HaLeigh's father, Ronald L. Cummings.

Nor her grandmother, Teresa Neves.

Her great-grandmother, Annette Sykes is not helping either, with all her bad-mouthing and whining about the Law Enforcement agencies working HaLeigh's case.

They have the power to end this now, yet they choose themselves over the little girl they were entrusted to love and protect.

THIS IS MY OPINION AND WHAT I BELIEVE.

[dustyk]

You obviously have such hatred for this man, that I am guessing that you feel Ron killed his daughter. How do you think he did that? What is your theory ?
Never did I say that he killed his daughter. Do I think he knows more than what he is saying...Yes I do. I do not know him so I don't hate him. I have seen how he uses women and underage girls, I don't like this trait about him. JMO

[dustyk]

BBM

Fact is that misty spent a lot more time with the Children then crystal did in those last 6 months.

Doing the math if you average 30 days a month for 6 months = 180 days.
During those 180 days (6 months) crystal had them at the most 24 days if she did in fact take them 4 days a month.

156 days compared to crystal's 24 days leads me to believe misty knew crystal's Children much better then their own mom having them 24 days (if that, the COURT DOCUMENTS mention crystal's lack of visitation).

crystal also wrote on her myspace page about taking care of her man and baby and the other 2 "BRATS".
Children have feelings, they know when they are wanted and loved.

Dang it, even a dog knows when it's been stepped on accidentally or intentionally kicked. :sad:

Sly

~
Fact is Misty spent just enough time with her to get her kidnapped...all the other stuff doesn't interest me, I don't care what they do to themselves. JMO

[ClimbingRose]

Another article.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-haleigh-cummings-101209,0,3978376.story

And another

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/12/lawyer_haleighs_dad_concerned_over_stepmoms_statem ents.html


HMO


OK, maybe I'm reading this wrong but Ronald still stands behind Misty, supports and believes Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance just concerned that she hasn't told everything she knows, and that the divorce is only because of the public, media pressure while trying to find Haleigh along with hints that the two of them may get back together. If I wasn't confused before now my mind is in a tailspin now.

Climbing Rose:blink:
MOO

[dustyk]

Maybe you could ask Crystal the same thing? Or is she still recovering from PPD after the delivery of Haleigh?
Many of us see Crystal begging for the return of her daughter daily. JMO

[panman]

Dun, I'm not Tex but I'd like to answer, too. I think that he married her out of grief. I think he was crazy with saddness and it seemed like the right thing to do. He may have thought Misty was totally innocent in all this and didn't know how to sort out the inconsistencies in his head.

Or may he did want to keep his enemy closer. You need to remember that these people are not like us. The love and hurt the same way but act differently in situations than us.
imo

It a shame we all can't understand that simple explanation.
jmo

[dustyk]

OK, maybe I'm reading this wrong but Ronald still stands behind Misty, supports and believes Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance just concerned that she hasn't told everything she knows, and that the divorce is only because of the public, media pressure while trying to find Haleigh along with hints that the two of them may get back together. If I wasn't confused before now my mind is in a tailspin now.

Climbing Rose:blink:
MOO
In my opinion he wants Misty to think that so she doesn't say too much YKWIM JMO

[Dunlurken]

OK, maybe I'm reading this wrong but Ronald still stands behind Misty, supports and believes Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance just concerned that she hasn't told everything she knows, and that the divorce is only because of the public, media pressure while trying to find Haleigh along with hints that the two of them may get back together. If I wasn't confused before now my mind is in a tailspin now.

Climbing Rose:blink:
MOO

Was that his attorney speaking? I can't bear to watch any more videos. JMO.

[Lqqkout]

BBM

Fact is that misty spent a lot more time with the Children then crystal did in those last 6 months.

Doing the math if you average 30 days a month for 6 months = 180 days.
During those 180 days (6 months) crystal had them at the most 24 days if she did in fact take them 4 days a month.

156 days compared to crystal's 24 days leads me to believe misty knew crystal's Children much better then their own mom having them 24 days (if that, the COURT DOCUMENTS mention crystal's lack of visitation).

crystal also wrote on her myspace page about taking care of her man and baby and the other 2 "BRATS".
Children have feelings, they know when they are wanted and loved.

Dang it, even a dog knows when it's been stepped on accidentally or intentionally kicked. :sad:

Sly

~

What I don't understand are the excuses given to both parents, but especially Chrystal. I say especially Chrystal because it appears she did not care to take an active part in her childrens" lives as Ron did. With that said, excuses don't mean squat to me. They are both adults and excuses only go so far. Let's act like adults who have a missing child and stop acting like children themselves. My God, Haleigh is their child. Why can't they stop being so selfish and come together for Haleigh's sake. Imagine if Haleigh IS still alive and could see them together pleading for her return instead of all the bickering, accusing BS? They all make me sick!

[Tracian]

Many of us see Crystal begging for the return of her daughter daily. JMO



I personally have not seen anyone from either side begging each and every day..that does not mean that they have not.

[panman]

Why would Crystal need to be enabled or excused did she have anything to do with Haleigh being missing? JMO

I have no proof of who took Haleigh, do you? As for enabling and excusing Crystal, you would have to ask the seeker. I am not a doctor nor do I pretend to be one.
jmo

[Texas48]

LE did not say they were "cleared". The case is unsolved and no one has been cleared. mo
I agree with you Diamond..
LE said Ronald and Crystal were not suspects..IMO..LE can always GO BACK if they find any proof of wrong doing and re-visit the parents...NOTHING is set in stone untill little HaLeigh is found and more evidence comes forward...

[FoxySly]

I put, "I think". That is my opinion. Weren't you all talking about Crystal? She is the biological mother of Haleigh. You do know she did drugs while pregnant, right. Please if you do not agree with me that is fine but you cannot disagree with the court docs!


Frankie, "I think" is just the same as typing it's "your opinion", dang it! It's the VERY same. Don't let those that are baiting or maybe just don't comprehend get to you.

Glad you mentioned the COURT DOCUMENTS I believe (I believe is as the same as typing my opinion for those who might not understand that) they can't NOT be mentioned enough.

As I posted last night I am bewildered at some who have posted hundreds, some thousands of post on HaLeigh's case but obviously have yet to read them.

Sly

~

[Texas48]

http://ow.ly/u0hN

From the article....Ron believes Haleigh is okay.

How can he believe that after 8 months if he does not know where she is or who has her?
Maybe its easier telling himself that than the other choice he has..??

[dustyk]

I have no proof of who took Haleigh, do you? As for enabling and excusing Crystal, you would have to ask the seeker. I am not a doctor nor do I pretend to be one.
jmo
Just going by what Le is saying. JMO

[Justice4all]

Why is it that documents/hearings from 2005 are brought up every single day to attack the mother of a missing child with the thought that she couldn't possibly have changed in the last four years;

But drug arrests of the father from the same time period are just dismissed because "he's changed" and "he's not the same person"?

This is getting old.

Old documents and court cases and arrests HAVE ZERO TO DO WITH WHAT HAPPENED ON THE NIGHT OF 2/9/09.

JMO

I think you are forgetting people have come forward and talked about Crystals drug use at the HaleighBug Center. Sounds like she has NOT changed at all


JMHO

[panman]

Never did I say that he killed his daughter. Do I think he knows more than what he is saying...Yes I do. I do not know him so I don't hate him. I have seen how he uses women and underage girls, I don't like this trait about him. JMO

Now that is some twisting. You do NOT know him, yet you see how he uses females?
jmo

[panman]

Many of us see Crystal begging for the return of her daughter daily. JMO

Link please or at least point me in the right direction.

[seeker]

Before I even begin to post I know it will NOT change your mind or even get you to THINK about what I am about to say...and consider it..
You seem very intelligent in your writings seeker so......................do you NOT realize many many ppl are NOT like me....maybe NOT like you and maybe not like some on this board that SHOWS emotion...carrys their hearts on their sleeve...I would be a blubbering idiot trying to ASK for the return of my daughter/grandaughter/relative..Heck for any human being and even animals...thats just me.
That does NOT appear to be Ronald Cummings...not in his everyday life with everyday words even..and NOT breaking down on national TV does NOT make hime a bad person...some just can't show that type of emotion in public....who knows..maybe he breaks down to a weeping crump on the floor every night....
I cannot judge any person for being different than me....in any way...nor would I want them to be...
Its just my observation that I can tell Ron is not like you..not up to your standards..but why must you judge him for every word..expression...movement that comes from him..? IDK where HaLeigh is and IDK if Ron knows if she is alive or dead but thats HIS CHOICE as to what he thinks..what he says..and what he does...
Just try and step back and understand this man is in no way similar to you..but he is HaLeigh's daddy....I will respect him for that untill I find proof otherwise...JMO and thoughts..

Hello, Texas,

I am willing to listen to anyone's point of view. I have to admit that it is easier when someone states their opinions and asks their questions with at least an attempt to be kind and polite.

I'm not sure why you believe, as you say, that you KNOW I will not THINK about your point of view, your thoughts about this case and the people who surrounded Haleigh.

What you call judging, I call observing and stating my thoughts, impressions, and opinions. As far as any standards I may hold for myself they are not relevant. We see and hear Ronald often; there is a mountain of video "evidence," court documentation, witness statements given to the FBI (for one), police statements, and written articles concerning this man. I am not going to hide my head in the sand because I cannot bear to think that a young father may have fatally injured his little girl and pulled in people to help him cover it up. To me, EVERYTHING points to that being the case.

Do you really believe that I, or anyone who cares about what happened to HaLeigh, hasn't attempted to put ourselves into Ronald L. Cummings place? Especially those of us who are parents.

I am more than willing to have my mind changed, as I only care about the TRUTH concerning What Happened To HaLeigh.

My thoughts and OPINIONS.

[Dunlurken]

I think you are forgetting people have come forward and talked about Crystals drug use at the HaleighBug Center. Sounds like she has NOT changed at all


JMHO

Do you have a link? I hadn't seen/heard that. JMO.

[Justice4all]

Never did I say that he killed his daughter. Do I think he knows more than what he is saying...Yes I do. I do not know him so I don't hate him. I have seen how he uses women and underage girls, I don't like this trait about him. JMO

maybe the underage girls are using him.....JMHO

[Texas48]

Yes, but how many are murdered each and every day? It's a sad, cold, fact.

You named 4 out of hundreds that go missing every day, never to be seen again. JMO. Reality is something to check each and every day.BBM
NOT if your the mother or father of one of these missing children..IMO
Reality would be the LAST thing in their minds....

[Justice4all]

Do you have a link? I hadn't seen/heard that. JMO.

Sure here you go. You can go listen to his archives and Cobra talks about him and Crystals father catching her do drugs at the HaleighBug Center.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett

[seeker]

TexSis,
He is darned if he does and darned if he doesn't. Remember those earlier video clips of Ronald and Crystal and the families where Ronald is inconsolable? He is a broken man, in tears and his pain is palpable? Well, you'll hear the haters say he was faking.

What on earth is this poor man to do?


For starters, "this poor man" can choose to BE a Man and TELL THE TRUTH!

I think, in the beginning, he was a broken man because he fatally injured his daughter. As the months pass, he is still broken but he continues the charade, and continues to this day to cover it up, with the help of his now-wife, his mother, and his grandmother.

This is, of course, my OPINION

[Dunlurken]

BBM
NOT if your the mother or father of one of these missing children..IMO
Reality would be the LAST thing in their minds....

I understand "hope springs eternal". I guess I look at these cases from a more logical standpoint, and try to keep my emotions at bay. Doesn't always happen.... I get very involved in these cases. JMO.

[Dunlurken]

Sure here you go. You can go listen to his archives and Cobra talks about him and Crystals father catching her do drugs at the HaleighBug Center.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Simon-Barrett
Cobra? THUD!

You know I prefer legitimate sources. If there are any. JMO.

[Justice4all]

Cobra? THUD!

You know I prefer legitimate sources. If there are any. JMO.

What about Crystals father?
Go check out what he has to say about her on youtube.

[Texas48]

Let's not get in a pizzing match here. You are a respectable poster that I've known for a long time.

Can everyone stick to the facts, of which we have NONE! Except that Haleigh went missing on Misty's watch. Misty's comments are inconsistent. What is an intelligent person to think? JMO.
All the posters here have my respect and I do TRY and read each and consider what is said.....
with that said....these boards have been sooooo great to read and post the last several days...what has happened..?
See if this helps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yARTemyHedA&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o3DbkF8Gxk&feature=channel

[FoxySly]

Foxy said it best...from last night.

Originally Posted by FoxySly View Post
~

Dang it! I am bewildered by some who have literally made thousands of posts about this case but obviously have NEVER bothered to read the important COURT DOCUMENTS!!!



Sniped to address

Thank you Frankie,
I am sure some will say "well that don't have nothing to do with HaLeigh missing" & other BS.

But what I posted are FACTS & unless some have crystal balls or ESP they DON'T KNOW if the FACTS have anything to do with HaLeigh missing.

And why is it some get mad at those who post FACTS when the same some have posted many thousands of MAJOR UNTRUTHS about Ron???
Why is that :confused:

Again, why do some post that they are so interested in HaLeigh's case but don't bother reading the COURT DOCUMENTS?

IMVSHO only those honestly interested in this case have not only read the COURT DOCUMENTS but have went over them again & again, there by knowing those TRUTHS.

The COURT DOCUMENTS have been the best resource we have had on this case.

Sly

~

[HouseOfClark]

BBM

Fact is that misty spent a lot more time with the Children then crystal did in those last 6 months.

Doing the math if you average 30 days a month for 6 months = 180 days.
During those 180 days (6 months) crystal had them at the most 24 days if she did in fact take them 4 days a month.

156 days compared to crystal's 24 days leads me to believe misty knew crystal's Children much better then their own mom having them 24 days (if that, the COURT DOCUMENTS mention crystal's lack of visitation).

crystal also wrote on her myspace page about taking care of her man and baby and the other 2 "BRATS".
Children have feelings, they know when they are wanted and loved.

Dang it, even a dog knows when it's been stepped on accidentally or intentionally kicked. :sad:

Sly

~

David Smith (Susan's ex) called his youngest son, Alex, "fat rat". Does that mean he didn't care about him or his feelings?

[seeker]

You obviously have such hatred for this man, that I am guessing that you feel Ron killed his daughter. How do you think he did that? What is your theory ?

What a strange accusation to make of Dustyk, whose posts say nothing of the sort. He/she is a very thoughtful, careful poster, whose words you seem to be trying to twist into your own making. Strange.

Why don't you ask people here who DO believe that Ronald L. Cummings fatally injured his daughter and choose to state that straight out?

[Dunlurken]

All the posters here have my respect and I do TRY and read each and consider what is said.....
with that said....these boards have been sooooo great to read and post the last several days...what has happened..?
See if this helps...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yARTemyHedA&feature=channel

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o3DbkF8Gxk&feature=channel

Thank you, I've watched them both many times. JMO. We seem to have lost out focus.... finding out what happened to Haleigh. I think you know me well enough to know that I question, doubt, and want answers. I often play Devil's Advocate, which some dislike about me. But, I'm only looking for the truth and justice for little Haleigh.

JMO.

[Texas48]

Hey Tex! Why do you think Ron married Misty? I know we aren't inside their heads, but experience and "living" does give some insight. JMO.
IMO..because of the talk about Misty being under age..alot of talk was being spread around right before the wedding...and then..if you take Ron at his word...to keep Misty from leaving..all just opinions as I think only Ron can answer that question....

[sunstar]

OK, maybe I'm reading this wrong but Ronald still stands behind Misty, supports and believes Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance just concerned that she hasn't told everything she knows, and that the divorce is only because of the public, media pressure while trying to find Haleigh along with hints that the two of them may get back together. If I wasn't confused before now my mind is in a tailspin now.

Climbing Rose:blink:
MOO
(bolding mine)

Unless some stranger perp entered the house through a double locked door, leaving no signed of forced entry, Misty does have something to do with Haleigh's disappearance, imo, so I respectfully disagree with him. She was supposed to be taking care of the children while he was at work. MOO

[Texas48]

TexSis,
He is darned if he does and darned if he doesn't. Remember those earlier video clips of Ronald and Crystal and the families where Ronald is inconsolable? He is a broken man, in tears and his pain is palpable? Well, you'll hear the haters say he was faking.

What on earth is this poor man to do?
I only see a broken father of a little girl...I see Crystal as a mother of a little girl lost...Neither of their lives will ever be back to what it was...How could it?? I look at 8 LONG months..I look at my grandaughter...don't want to even go there....

[seeker]

Was that his attorney speaking? I can't bear to watch any more videos. JMO.

Don't worry, Shoemaker said just enough. It is only torture for a couple of minutes, including Misty's part two.

[HouseOfClark]

I think you are forgetting people have come forward and talked about Crystals drug use at the HaleighBug Center. Sounds like she has NOT changed at all


JMHO

Who? Cobra?

LOL

Was that one of his "truth telling" days?

[Unleashed]

Foxy said it best...from last night.

Originally Posted by FoxySly View Post
~

Dang it! I am bewildered by some who have literally made thousands of posts about this case but obviously have NEVER bothered to read the important COURT DOCUMENTS!!!

Don't some ever get tried of making excuses for a dead beat 'mom' that don't do much of nothing for her 2 oldest precious Children?

Sly
snipped only for space.

Thanks for bringing that over, frankie, for those (like me) who missed it.

Very well said, Sly. ITA.

jmo

[HouseOfClark]

OK, maybe I'm reading this wrong but Ronald still stands behind Misty, supports and believes Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh's disappearance just concerned that she hasn't told everything she knows, and that the divorce is only because of the public, media pressure while trying to find Haleigh along with hints that the two of them may get back together. If I wasn't confused before now my mind is in a tailspin now.

Climbing Rose:blink:
MOO

Oh, you're not confused. That's exactly what he said.

[Justice4all]

Who? Cobra?

LOL

Was that one of his "truth telling" days?

TJH talks about it and so does her father.

[seeker]

What I don't understand are the excuses given to both parents, but especially Chrystal. I say especially Chrystal because it appears she did not care to take an active part in her childrens" lives as Ron did. With that said, excuses don't mean squat to me. They are both adults and excuses only go so far. Let's act like adults who have a missing child and stop acting like children themselves. My God, Haleigh is their child. Why can't they stop being so selfish and come together for Haleigh's sake. Imagine if Haleigh IS still alive and could see them together pleading for her return instead of all the bickering, accusing BS? They all make me sick!

Why would a woman who quite possibly believes that the father of her first two children may have killed their daughter and is attempting to cover up the crime?

Why would anyone who has stated that she has been physically abused by this man, who has stated that he has hurt their two children, stand next to him, either metaphorically or physically?

[seeker]

Oh please, at least try for some honesty. Crystal was alone with Misty and never even asked her what happened that night.
jmo

Wow! Were you there with them, or were you just a fly on the wall?

What did your comment have to do with my post that you "responded" to? It's getting to be quite a fun game, seeing just how much more focused I can get every time you, or someone else, attempts to deflect with Crystal when things get too close to Ron, Teresa, Annette, and Misty.

[HouseOfClark]

Sniped to address

Thank you Frankie,
I am sure some will say "well that don't have nothing to do with HaLeigh missing" & other BS.

But what I posted are FACTS & unless some have crystal balls or ESP they DON'T KNOW if the FACTS have anything to do with HaLeigh missing.

And why is it some get mad at those who post FACTS when the same some have posted many thousands of MAJOR UNTRUTHS about Ron???
Why is that :confused:

Again, why do some post that they are so interested in HaLeigh's case but don't bother reading the COURT DOCUMENTS?

IMVSHO only those honestly interested in this case have not only read the COURT DOCUMENTS but have went over them again & again, there by knowing those TRUTHS.

The COURT DOCUMENTS have been the best resource we have had on this case.

Sly

~

The court documents are not the best resource you have on this case.

Not by a long shot.

JMO

[Lqqkout]

Never did I say that he killed his daughter. Do I think he knows more than what he is saying...Yes I do. I do not know him so I don't hate him. I have seen how he uses women and underage girls, I don't like this trait about him. JMO

You have chosen to believe anything said about him without real proof. People say things all of the time to benefit themselves. I do not believe one single statement read on a blog, facebook, twitter, even Nancy Grace, because ALL of these players have a method to their madness. ONLY LE's statements, court documents, and TM will I take to the bank. And even TM has made a couple of faux pas that have been noticed, so even his statements are sometimes taken with a grain of salt, but I believe TM is trying to be truthful. What I say to your comment that Ron "uses women and underage girls" is It takes 2 to tango. All these women had to say is "No" or maybe their parents should have been more interested in their daughters' lives. I feel these girls that you refer to went into their relationships with their eyes open and their respective parents approval. If you mean something else by that statement, I would need to see proof and what someone says on their facebook or twitter to their fans and friends would not be proof to me.

[FoxySly]

How did you come to that end from my post?

Frankie, don't take the bait. Every time a lot of FACTS get posted the real bad baiting starts.
Every time a lot of FACT are posted the board get shut down.
Some don't like TRUTHS.

I hope Jr is not to sick & I wish for him to be well soon bless his heart :wub:
I have no doubt that all this confusion in his little life along with missing his Sissy has taken a toll on him:wub:

Sly

~

[Peaches]

You have chosen to believe anything said about him without real proof. People say things all of the time to benefit themselves. I do not believe one single statement read on a blog, facebook, twitter, even Nancy Grace, because ALL of these players have a method to their madness. ONLY LE's statements, court documents, and TM will I take to the bank. And even TM has made a couple of faux pas that have been noticed, so even his statements are sometimes taken with a grain of salt, but I believe TM is trying to be truthful. What I say to your comment that Ron "uses women and underage girls" is It takes 2 to tango. All these women had to say is "No" or maybe their parents should have been more interested in their daughters' lives. I feel these girls that you refer to went into their relationships with their eyes open and their respective parents approval. If you mean something else by that statement, I would need to see proof and what someone says on their facebook or twitter to their fans and friends would not be proof to me.


About underage girls and Ronald...............there is ONLY 1 and that is Misty.

Crystal and Ronald were teenagers when they started dating....not 2 years difference in their ages.

Also...........drugs...........Crystal's mother ran a drug house.......maybe she is the one supplying them...........jmoo

[Zeus]

The court documents are not the best resource you have on this case.

Not by a long shot.

JMO

Then what is, in your opinion?

[Lqqkout]

Wow! Were you there with them, or were you just a fly on the wall?

What did your comment have to do with my post that you "responded" to? It's getting to be quite a fun game, seeing just how much more focused I can get every time you, or someone else, attempts to deflect with Crystal when things get too close to Ron, Teresa, Annette, and Misty.



Chrystal admitted not asking questions to Misty to NG's horror and mine.

[seeker]

IMO..because of the talk about Misty being under age..alot of talk was being spread around right before the wedding...and then..if you take Ron at his word...to keep Misty from leaving..all just opinions as I think only Ron can answer that question....

If we took Ron at his word then he married Misty because HaLeigh wanted Misty and her dad to get married.

[FoxySly]

Misty is IMO, going to slip up soon, even her lawyer bailed--not a good sign.

~Sniped to address

I sure hope so Tracian!!!
Another thing Ron said was that he needed closure to, something I have heard from most parents of missing Children. Breaks my heart.

Sly

~

[panman]

You don't hide yourself or your motivations very well.

Because I believe that Ronald is the perpetrator in the Crime Against HaLeigh I see no need to closely critique Crystal, unless she comes under attack.

Now you, YOU are an interesting case.

My OPINION.

I didn't know I was hiding. And thanks for the online shrink diagnosis. Much appreciated. I am very interesting in real life also.

[titanfan217]

I agree with you Diamond..
LE said Ronald and Crystal were not suspects..IMO..LE can always GO BACK if they find any proof of wrong doing and re-visit the parents...NOTHING is set in stone untill little HaLeigh is found and more evidence comes forward...


Before I could get serious by Crystal's (family) involvement, someone would have to find this mysterious person who was anywhere near the mh even in the same county. I've yet to even hear a rumor about that one.

Bottom line it was someone IN Putnam County that caused HaLeigh to be gone.

[Peaches]

~Sniped to address

I sure hope so Tracian!!!
Another thing Ron said was that he needed closure to, something I have heard from most parents of missing Children. Breaks my heart.

Sly

~


Hello Sly............thanks for your wisdom and the truth being posted here.

Known/proven facts are the things I read you post.

Tim Miller said that the not knowing hurt more than knowing.......

I do not believe for even one moment that Ronald, GGS, or TN knows what happened to their precious baby.

My strong opinion

[Lqqkout]

~Sniped to address

I sure hope so Tracian!!!
Another thing Ron said was that he needed closure to, something I have heard from most parents of missing Children. Breaks my heart.

Sly

~

The only reason imo that posters are so critical of every move Ron makes is they must believe Ron killed his daughter, Why else such hatred? It astounds me that some attack someone who has not been proven to be involved and is living his life with no clue as to where his daughter is. Is their no sympathy for a man living through this tragedy? Why sympathy for Chrystal then? They are both parents and neither are suspects.

[titanfan217]

Who? Cobra?

LOL

Was that one of his "truth telling" days?

Next will hear Misty is telling the same thing.

[seeker]

You have chosen to believe anything said about him without real proof. People say things all of the time to benefit themselves. I do not believe one single statement read on a blog, facebook, twitter, even Nancy Grace, because ALL of these players have a method to their madness. ONLY LE's statements, court documents, and TM will I take to the bank. And even TM has made a couple of faux pas that have been noticed, so even his statements are sometimes taken with a grain of salt, but I believe TM is trying to be truthful. What I say to your comment that Ron "uses women and underage girls" is It takes 2 to tango. All these women had to say is "No" or maybe their parents should have been more interested in their daughters' lives. I feel these girls that you refer to went into their relationships with their eyes open and their respective parents approval. If you mean something else by that statement, I would need to see proof and what someone says on their facebook or twitter to their fans and friends would not be proof to me.

Wow! You have clearly stated what YOU will choose to believe, and Who you choose to believe.

Why not let the rest of us, especially kind people such as Dusty, choose who and what sources they will believe?

Here, we are all equals; our opinions and beliefs matter because we are human beings. I don't think any of us come here to be lectured and told that proof must be provided to YOU.

Incredible.

[Kathlb]

According to Ronald Cummings attorney, Shoemaker, as of this morning, Ron believes that his daughter, HaLeigh is alive.

I am at a loss: Ron doesn't ever show signs that he is in distress of any kind thinking that this little girl is in the hands of someone who could be doing her harm. As Ron's advocate, Shoemaker made no plea to whoever has has an alive HaLeigh. Why? He had a national forum this morning.

Ronald's last "plea" - I think it was within the last week or so - once again was not at all convincing, Once again he stated she (HaLeigh) wasn't just a thing (usually he says "property"). He doesn't beg whoever has her to take care of her, he doesn't tell the person she is ill and needs medical care. He doesn't seem to believe what he is saying.

I am of the firm opinion that these natural signs a parent would show if they thought their beloved little girl was in the hands of an abductor are missing because Ronald Cummings knows he is not speaking to anyone; not to his daughter and not to anyone that has her.

My OPINIONS


Lots of things about Ron bother me and make me nervous about what he knows, but this is one of the biggies. The fact that in no plea has he ever mentioned that she has a medical condition and needs medical help when he's asking them to bring her home. Not once that I've heard. :crying:

[titanfan217]

snipped only for space.

Thanks for bringing that over, frankie, for those (like me) who missed it.

Very well said, Sly. ITA.

jmo



What court documents? The only ones I'm interested in are about HaLeigh being missing, and didn't know any have been released.

[seeker]

Frankie, don't take the bait. Every time a lot of FACTS get posted the real bad baiting starts.
Every time a lot of FACT are posted the board get shut down.
Some don't like TRUTHS.

I hope Jr is not to sick & I wish for him to be well soon bless his heart :wub:
I have no doubt that all this confusion in his little life along with missing his Sissy has taken a toll on him:wub:

Sly

~

FoxySLY,

Your FACTS leave a lot to be desired, in my opinion. How about you just let us adults all decide for ourselves what we believe to be facts?

Why would the board get shut down?

I, for one, don't come here to be told how to think, feel, believe, write, or respond.

[FoxySly]

TexSis,
He is darned if he does and darned if he doesn't. Remember those earlier video clips of Ronald and Crystal and the families where Ronald is inconsolable? He is a broken man, in tears and his pain is palpable? Well, you'll hear the haters say he was faking.

What on earth is this poor man to do?


There is NOTHING Ron will ever be able to do to please the strong disliker. It's like it actually pleases them to run the Father down who HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR HIS CHILDREN, THROUGH THE TEETHING, POTTY TRAINING, KEPT THEM FEED, CLOTHED & A ROOF OVER THEIR HEADS ect... when their bio mom did close to NOTHING.

Ron, his Mom & Grandma all show major signs of stress, weight loss & heartbreak, but strange, crystal & misty both have never looked better or healthier in my eyes.

Sly

~

[Kathlb]

If we took Ron at his word then he married Misty because HaLeigh wanted Misty and her dad to get married.

And later he told Tim Miller that he married her to keep his enemies closer. I believe Tim would not make that up. So Ron changes stories almost as quickly as Misty from what I've heard. He also said he loved her and we heard his actual voice calling her a b_____ on the 911 call. :confused:

[Lqqkout]

Wow! You have clearly stated what YOU will choose to believe, and Who you choose to believe.

Why not let the rest of us, especially kind people such as Dusty, choose who and what sources they will believe?

Here, we are all equals; our opinions and beliefs matter because we are human beings. I don't think any of us come here to be lectured and told that proof must be provided to YOU.

Incredible.

I am glad to hear you believe other sources than LE, court documents and TM. Pray, tell what sources you believe, twitter, blags and facebook? Well, that explains alot.

[Lqqkout]

<<<< Snipped >>>>




The fishermen fishing and the incessant jump to chomp at the bait happened.
Again.

It was nice a couple of days.

Where is HaLeigh?

MOO

I agree. Will check in later when facts are discussed rather than facebook.

[FoxySly]

Witch Doctor is more like it when someone pretends to explain the enabling and excusing of Crystal, IMO of course


Yup, they say the FACTS have nothing to do with the case :confused:

But some think all the mis-truthing about crystal does? :confused:

On the dirt & flea posts... I woke up this morning & Mysteria, my dog, was next to me... neither of us have fleas.
I have VERY GOOD dirt out here, it smells wonderful but I guess you'd have to have a green thumb or some farmer in you to understand.

Still I don't know what the heck the "lay in the dirt you come up smelling bad" has to do with HaLeigh's case, it only lets me know that poster don't go camping nor gardens... which has nothing to do with HaLeigh's case.

Sly

~

[HouseOfClark]

I am glad to hear you believe other sources than LE, court documents and TM. Pray, tell what sources you believe, twitter, blags and facebook? Well, that explains alot.

I don't believe seeker said any such thing in her post.

Is this board about Haleigh and what happened on 2/9/09?

[sunstar]

Before I could get serious by Crystal's (family) involvement, someone would have to find this mysterious person who was anywhere near the mh even in the same county. I've yet to even hear a rumor about that one.

Bottom line it was someone IN Putnam County that caused HaLeigh to be gone.

That's one reason why I don't buy MC's "theory" and I also noticed during the interview there wasn't any explanation why MC thinks this. MOO

[HouseOfClark]

Yup, they say the FACTS have nothing to do with the case :confused:

But some think all the mis-truthing about crystal does? :confused:

On the dirt & flea posts... I woke up this morning & Mysteria, my dog, was next to me... neither of us have fleas.
I have VERY GOOD dirt out here, it smells wonderful but I guess you'd have to have a green thumb or some farmer in you to understand.

Still I don't know what the heck the "lay in the dirt you come up smelling bad" has to do with HaLeigh's case, it only lets me know that poster don't go camping nor gardens... which has nothing to do with HaLeigh's case.

Sly

~

It doesn't and neither does your dog.

But yet you felt the need to tell us all about it.

[seeker]

I am glad to hear you believe other sources than LE, court documents and TM. Pray, tell what sources you believe, twitter, blags and facebook? Well, that explains alot.

Are you for real? You ask a question of someone and then you answer it yourself, all with nothing to base it on.

Don't presume to know me, and I won't presume to know you.

(By the way, I take offense at your signature line).

[Acey]

What a strange accusation to make of Dustyk, whose posts say nothing of the sort. He/she is a very thoughtful, careful poster, whose words you seem to be trying to twist into your own making. Strange.

Why don't you ask people here who DO believe that Ronald L. Cummings fatally injured his daughter and choose to state that straight out?



The investigators, the ones who determine who will be arrested, have stated:

http://www.pcso.us/2009-8-17-a (http://www.pcso.us/2009-8-17-a)

The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case.

Since LE's statement above was initially made 8-17-09, maybe you have connections with PCSO, FDLE, FBI, or the AG's office and have some insider information with more up-to-date information you can share with us to support your statement re. "Ronald L. Cummings fatally injured his daughter".

[Unleashed]

The only reason imo that posters are so critical of every move Ron makes is they must believe Ron killed his daughter, Why else such hatred? It astounds me that some attack someone who has not been proven to be involved and is living his life with no clue as to where his daughter is. Is their no sympathy for a man living through this tragedy? Why sympathy for Chrystal then? They are both parents and neither are suspects.

And why the suspicion towards someone who the police have clearly stated is not a suspect, (link posted repeatedly) someone who has the alibi, which the police obviously believe, of being at work when HaLeigh went missing? I don't get it either, Lqqout.

jmo

[seeker]

The investigators, the ones who determine who will be arrested, have stated:

http://www.pcso.us/2009-8-17-a (http://www.pcso.us/2009-8-17-a)

The biological parents, Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield, are not considered to be suspects in the case.

Since LE's statement above was initially made 8-17-09, maybe you have connections with PCSO, FDLE, FBI, or the AG's office and have some insider information with more up-to-date information you can share with us to support your statement.







Acey, you might want to check out the attorney for Ronald L. Cummings (Terry Shoemaker) and his statements regarding whether or not Ronald is a suspect in the Crime Against HaLeigh.

As for anything we talk about here, we are not held to the same standards and regulations of LE agencies. We can state that we believe someone in particular is criminally responsible before LE comes out and makes an arrest. Or not.

This is a discussion board, full of opinions.

This is one of mine.

[FoxySly]

I personally have not seen anyone from either side begging each and every day..that does not mean that they have not.

Maybe some have a crystal ball that shows them a pretend world they wish for & the rest of us are only looking at the REAL FACTS?

Sly

~

[HeadsOrTails]

According to Ronald Cummings attorney, Shoemaker, as of this morning, Ron believes that his daughter, HaLeigh is alive.

I am at a loss: Ron doesn't ever show signs that he is in distress of any kind thinking that this little girl is in the hands of someone who could be doing her harm. As Ron's advocate, Shoemaker made no plea to whoever has has an alive HaLeigh. Why? He had a national forum this morning.

Ronald's last "plea" - I think it was within the last week or so - once again was not at all convincing, Once again he stated she (HaLeigh) wasn't just a thing (usually he says "property"). He doesn't beg whoever has her to take care of her, he doesn't tell the person she is ill and needs medical care. He doesn't seem to believe what he is saying.

I am of the firm opinion that these natural signs a parent would show if they thought their beloved little girl was in the hands of an abductor are missing because Ronald Cummings knows he is not speaking to anyone; not to his daughter and not to anyone that has her.

My OPINIONS

You didn't see the local spot with Matt Saffer where he said as soon as he brought up Haleigh, Ron was bent over the couch and totally sobbing? It was done last Wed if you missed it. How you can say he isn't grieving is beyond me. Both Ron and Crystal have to keep it together for their TV spots. That's a short snapshot of strength that you should know they can't keep up for long.

[Lqqkout]

Are you for real? You ask a question of someone and then you answer it yourself, all with nothing to base it on.

Don't presume to know me, and I won't presume to know you.

(By the way, I take offense at your signature line).


And that says it all to me. I am a proud American !:patriot:

Now, I would love to discuss Haleigh, but only want to deal with facts, such as statements by LE, TM, and court documents. You have different sources? so I will troll on by. Thank you.

[seeker]

And why the suspicion towards someone who the police have clearly stated is not a suspect, (link posted repeatedly) someone who has the alibi, which the police obviously believe, of being at work when HaLeigh went missing? I don't get it either, Lqqout.

jmo

Repeating these thing does NOT make them true.

None of what you just wrote has any basis in FACT, beyond LE stating Ronald and Crystal were not considered suspects in August. After that LE statement, Ronald's attorney came out with his own statement, refuting that.

Now, why would a man charged with defending his client need to clarify that Ron is on the list of suspects for the Crime Against HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings?

[seeker]

You didn't see the local spot with Matt Saffer where he said as soon as he brought up Haleigh, Ron was bent over the couch and totally sobbing? It was done last Wed if you missed it. How you can say he isn't grieving is beyond me. Both Ron and Crystal have to keep it together for their TV spots. That's a short snapshot of strength that you should know they can't keep up for long.

I didn't say that Ronald L. Cummings wasn't, and isn't, grieving.

As far as the video piece with Matt Safer, it was extremely transparent who that reporter chooses to believe. Or, he's just pretending to get a story with Ron. I don't doubt that Ron fell over the couch, sobbing, but I do doubt Ron's reason for doing so.

Again, I believe he could be grieving.

[HeadsOrTails]

Ya'll keep going around in circles! I'm getting dizzy!:blink:

IMO, Donald Lee Sapp is the person ya'll should be talking about. I know he has been mentioned here before...but very briefly. Don't you think he warrants the same scrutiny as Misty, Ron and Crystal? :shrug:

I agree. I know they say he isn't related to Lindsey whose grandfather is a Sapp but I'd love to know if Tommy knows him. If they had so little drywall work to do that they are all moving, Tommy made some money somehow to support his family while his wife was in school.

I think there is a child porn producing offender nearby too. Like in the same neighborhood. I watched early press conferences last night and just because they say the SO's were all accounted for does not mean that a non registered SO or someone like Tommy could not have taken Haleigh to them.

[KatieLady]

Came back to the boards this afternoon to see if there was anything new. I see we are down to "taking offense" of people's sig lines :rolleyes:

Shame on you! :no:

[VenusFlyTrap]

http://ow.ly/u0hN

From the article....Ron believes Haleigh is okay.

How can he believe that after 8 months if he does not know where she is or who has her?

Until you experience having a child that is missing there is a lot you can not understand.... Until your child is found you do not give up hope that they are still alive, you can't if you want to make it through the day. I read day after day what many of you are saying about the parents... if you had any clue what their life is like right now you wouldn't post half the stuff that you do.

[Gumby]

Color me confused...I don't understand what is so offensive about teachers or soldiers?

[FoxySly]

Link please or at least point me in the right direction.

Peering through my FACTUAL crystal ball... I see you will get no TRUE links to your polite request to what that poster posted as fact.

Sly

~

[Lynn Gweeny]

From the LINKS thread:

This article talks about Attorney Shoemaker setting up of a non-profit organization to serve 2 purposes, getting word out about Haleigh’s disappearance, and to gather funds to pay for a private investigator.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Ronald-Cummings-lawyer-on-the-next-step/jBFxScAWG06mxzE70qvTQg.cspx

VIDEO: Fund to Find Haleigh

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=34134@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5

[KatieLady]

From the LINKS thread:

This article talks about Attorney Shoemaker setting up of a non-profit organization to serve 2 purposes, getting word out about Haleigh’s disappearance, and to gather funds to pay for a private investigator.

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Ronald-Cummings-lawyer-on-the-next-step/jBFxScAWG06mxzE70qvTQg.cspx

Thanks Lynn...was just reading it at the links thread.

Doubt it will be Cobra he hires lol

[FrankieBones1]

Many of us see Crystal begging for the return of her daughter daily. JMO
Pardon me?

[5boxersmom]

Thanks Lynn...was just reading it at the links thread.

Doubt it will be Cobra he hires lol

I hope they get someone good. And not Dominic Casey. Wasn't he involved at one time?

jmo

[HeadsOrTails]

Of course he does!

And if he does, than WHY doesn't Ronald L. Cummings behave like he believes that his young, ill daughter is ALIVE and in peril every moment that she is not found?


What do you want him to do? Go from town to town looking for her? Crystal recently had a really loving message on her myspace asking whoever has Haleigh to please bring her home. She needs medicine and Crystal misses her. Yet she's not out searching against LE's wishes everyday either. I don't see you criticize her for that. She still plays around on myspace buying people as "pets". Maybe she needs a few minutes each day to pretend her life is normal and she's not destroyed? Don't they all deserve that consideration?

[FrankieBones1]

Thanks Lynn...was just reading it at the links thread.

Doubt it will be Cobra he hires lolEspecially with his December court date.

[Petal Pusher]

I don't know if this is it, but this video breaks my heart. The pain is, imo, palpable in several photos and the love imo is undeniable. I know what is said about pictures, I don't care. It's what I see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o3DbkF8Gxk
'When I look to the sky'

Each and every time I see this video I see a full range of emotions, from one end of pure joy to the other end of absolute heartbreak. It just tears me up and I can't begin to imagine what it does to HaLeigh's family members. jmo

[sunstar]

Bombshell -- Babysitter stepmom Misty Croslin unleashes new details about the night little Haleigh went missing on her watch and lashes out against her brother, who says Croslin wasn't home when he went to the trailer that night. What really happened and where is Haleigh? Nancy Grace investigates, 8 p.m. ET on HLN.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

[Justice4all]

Bombshell -- Babysitter stepmom Misty Croslin unleashes new details about the night little Haleigh went missing on her watch and lashes out against her brother, who says Croslin wasn't home when he went to the trailer that night. What really happened and where is Haleigh? Nancy Grace investigates, 8 p.m. ET on HLN.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

I wish Misty would go on NG.

[Tracian]

The only fact that we know absolutely in this case is that a now 6 year old little girl with some serious medical problems is missing. That is all we know for a fact.

What else we know is based on interviews that the people involved have done and it has been shown that all of them with the exception of her biological mother, and her biological maternal grandmother have lied.


Well according to Marie and Crystal, KP was fired; KP says she quit because her work was done, more or less

Crystal first said that Ron would never hurt Haleigh, then she with KP accuses him of horrible abuse.

Don't look for complete sinners or saints on either side of the family, they have all stumbled along the way.

LE is focused on Misty, they have said so many times; Misty holds the key, and IMO, Misty is the only one currently whose lies matter because those lies are hurting bringing the truth out.

[sunstar]

I wish Misty would go on NG.

OMG ~ she wouldn't survive one segment! :scared: MOO

[KatieLady]

Bombshell -- Babysitter stepmom Misty Croslin unleashes new details about the night little Haleigh went missing on her watch and lashes out against her brother, who says Croslin wasn't home when he went to the trailer that night. What really happened and where is Haleigh? Nancy Grace investigates, 8 p.m. ET on HLN.

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

This Bombshell stuff has gotten ridicules IMO It is like "Breaking News" on my local tv station when it turns out to be an accident on the freeway (come on....it's Los Angeles :rolleyes:)

[Justice4all]

Well according to Marie and Crystal, KP was fired; KP says she quit because her work was done, more or less

Crystal first said that Ron would never hurt Haleigh, then she with KP accuses him of horrible abuse.

Don't look for complete sinners or saints on either side of the family, they have all stumbled along the way.

LE is focused on Misty, they have said so many times; Misty holds the key, and IMO, Misty is the only one currently whose lies matter because those lies are hurting bringing the truth out.

and dont forget Crystal said she had never been in Ron's trailer and then Marie said she had.