10/8, 10/9

[denjet]

Thanks den, did you see this:


Pg. 29

Q63 attempted to photographically capture image of heart
Unable to do so

:sad:
I did! Guess they only have the testimony of the tech who saw it ... but I could have sworn more than one person saw it ... I'll post if I find ...

[need2no]

I may be wrong, but I thought they didn't do a search warrant until Caylee's body was found. Des...do you know?

I couldn't recall, that's why I said 31 plus days.

Just found this:

CSI Techs Take Evidence From Anthony Home


Last week, investigators made another visit to the home and took two large paper bags containing gas cans. Caylee's grandfather, George Anthony, accompanied investigators for that search.

Posted August 6, 2008


http://www.wesh.com/news/17110771/detail.html

[Lavinya]

I had an idea SayWhat. I don't know if they had a fingerprint to eliminate the other A's, so much as they wanted the exemplars there in case they did find a print. It wouldn't be very efficient to find a print, then ask for comparables, they should have the obvious comps at the ready, I think.

[Lavinya]

Do you think there is any probability that Casey laid down in the dirt next to Caylee's remains before she left them there?

Only if a guy was with her. :tongueside:

[Pierre]

Only if a guy was with her. :tongueside:


oooooooooh no :laugh:

[Lavinya]

thanks Pierre....Can you imagine being 23/24 and knowing you will probably spend the rest of your life in that cell. I've never seen those chains around waist. I wonder if they keep adding links as they need them....:scared::eek:

:laugh: They can adjust the links. What's going to be funny is when you get to a certain size, they have to use two sets of handcuffs on a person because heavier people can't get their hands far enough behind them. I would like to see her on her two handcuffs day.

[no1what]

Not by much! I think you did an excellent job!

Playing catch up and apologize if this is an echo:

NEW DOCUMENTS:
Trunk Evidence Form
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/trunkevidence.pdf

FBI Lab Chain-of-Custody Log
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/chainofcustody.pdf

FBI Evidence Form
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/evidencesheetsFBI.pdf

Injection List
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/injectionlistdnacklist.pdf

FBI Latent Print Unit
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/latentprints.pdf


I hope the hair found on the shovel is a match. #9523

[Lavinya]

After viewing the latest slide show & reading your post above, I'd like to thank you for that particular visual.

But I can't. :tonguewag:

Fair enough, lol. I hate to inflict pain on the innocent. :wink:

[need2no]

:laugh: They can adjust the links. What's going to be funny is when you get to a certain size, they have to use two sets of handcuffs on a person because heavier people can't get their hands far enough behind them. I would like to see her on her two handcuffs day.

Did you notice James Ward was wearing the same pink handcuffs casey wore to court. And to think I thought those were selected specially just for the princess. :laugh:

[cassidy]

That is one huge and UGLY tattoo! IMO


I gotta agree with you on that one. Wonder how much she paid for that mess?

[TunaMelt]

Even Hal Boedeker The TV Guy is writing about KC's back.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/10/casey-anthony-her-back-the-horror-the-horror.html


:sneaky:

[KTBarTheDoor]

Just read where most of the sticky part of tape was gone. If thats the case there probably no doubt would not be any prints.,,,UGH!

[need2no]

I gotta agree with you on that one. Wonder how much she paid for that mess?

I was hoping this info would come out with the docs. I'm also very curious to know if casey had advised the tattoo artist of what she wanted for her next tattoo the following week.


ETA: Have y'all noticed we have a new mod, allforone, joining CW. See the main page.

[Lavinya]

But why would they send the prints with the tape to the FBI, and why would FBI return a report isolating just the elimination of those prints on the tape, if LE was just asking them to "file" the prints for future reference? Why not request the FBI check for any prints on the duct tape?

Muy confused, I be. :blink:

Is that the only item the prints were used to exclude on, SW? IOW, could they have been used to eliminate prints on the plastic?

[Lavinya]

All kidding aside, I was seriously considering that maybe Casey had a moment of remorse & possibly laid down next to Caylee's body before she left her there.

Alas, I don't really believe Casey has been remorseful at all.

Ever.

Magic 8 ball says, "not likely". :laugh: (IIRC the stains were food type stains, but I may have to check that.)

[Lavinya]

I saw that. Have you also noticed there are no ads running across the top or down the right side of the page anymore?

Did ya'll notice that we also have a capacity of 10,000 PM's now? :w00t:

[Lavinya]

Even Hal Boedeker The TV Guy is writing about KC's back.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/10/casey-anthony-her-back-the-horror-the-horror.html


:sneaky:

Lack of friction=less exfoliation. :lol:

[Pam1569]

I gotta agree with you on that one. Wonder how much she paid for that mess?

Hi cass, I am sure that since it only contains one color of ink and by the judging of the size of it. IMO it probably cost between $150 and $200. jmo

[Dtviewer3]

$000.00 American dollars.

Surely someone else unknowingly paid for it.


Amy bought a Tatoo and almost bought a new monitor and never even knew.........

[Pierre]

All kidding aside, I was seriously considering that maybe Casey had a moment of remorse & possibly laid down next to Caylee's body before she left her there.

Alas, I don't really believe Casey has been remorseful at all.

Ever.

actually the land where Caylee was found was covered in brush and shrubs. The way we see it now was after LE picked it clean and they really picked it clean!

[desmom]

Frankly I can't imagine someone didn't take a picture of the heart shaped residue, that's quite a 'find'. Perhaps the prosecution hasn't located the pic just yet. :wink:

I just hope the Anthony's had purchased a huge box of trash bags so 31plus days later whenever LE took them in as evidence, the bags seized from the house matched the same lot as the ones casey used.
Worst case scenario, there may have only been a few bags left in the box when casey took a couple from it, and the remaining bags were used, thrown out, and a new box was purchased.

Hey Need2no - no worry. IIRC, in one of the doc dumps, OCSO CSI discovered some items Cindy bagged to give to LE were in a black plastic garbage bag.

If you want me to look, I will see if I can find you a link.

jmo

[TunaMelt]

Did ya'll notice that we also have a capacity of 10,000 PM's now? :w00t:

:lol:

I saw that the other day.

I figured I better not say anything.

:sneaky:

[Scampi]

Even Hal Boedeker The TV Guy is writing about KC's back.


http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/10/casey-anthony-her-back-the-horror-the-horror.html


:sneaky:



"This is an image that was never meant for HD television."

LOL, my eyes, my eyes!!!!

Love the comments that are being made too.

[Pierre]

Lack of friction=less exfoliation. :lol:


you, you...my seat at the library is still warm, you want it?

O/T anybody following the ward case?? There must be something in the water in FL. I thought he may be related to the Anthony's except he has money.

[Lavinya]

I was hoping this info would come out with the docs. I'm also very curious to know if casey had advised the tattoo artist of what she wanted for her next tattoo the following week.


ETA: Have y'all noticed we have a new mod, allforone, joining CW. See the main page.

Ohh, I would love to know what her propsed tatt would be. Surely they discussed it?

(And yes, I saw the mod. Hope it helps.:wink:)

[need2no]

I saw that. Have you also noticed there are no ads running across the top or down the right side of the page anymore?


No I didn't notice, and I always thought I was an observant person. Ah well, I'll blame it on the excitement of seeing casey's tattoo pics. :wink:

[Lavinya]

Are you psychic? I was just checking out the Magic 8 Ball sayings.

Seriously.

Dod od do do do do do do! (Twilight Zone.)

[Scampi]

Did ya'll notice that we also have a capacity of 10,000 PM's now? :w00t:

I wish it was a 10,000 infraction capacity.......lol.

[Lavinya]

I'm sure they could use the prints to compare with other evidence. I just find it odd that in this instance, no other evidence was mentioned -- just the duct tape and the prints. Like they were separated out from all the rest. The FBI latent fingerprint lab report was just 2 brief pages, addressing only and specifically the examination of prints on the duct tape. :shrug:

I'm just not sure, Sis. :shrug:

[hello its me]

Did you notice James Ward was wearing the same pink handcuffs casey wore to court. And to think I thought those were selected specially just for the princess. :laugh:

he's a weird one, too. I was surprised he's out on bond.

He got Casey's cuffs!? The horror...:tonguewag:

[KTBarTheDoor]

I may be wrong, but I thought they didn't do a search warrant until Caylee's body was found. Des...do you know?

Yes But IIRC when cindy gave LE somethings before Caylee was found she put them in a black trash bag.. LE still had the trash bag from then.

[Dtviewer3]

actually the land where Caylee was found was covered in brush and shrubs. The way we see it now was after LE picked it clean and they really picked it clean!


Very good point to keep in mind Pierre!!!

[desmom]

I may be wrong, but I thought they didn't do a search warrant until Caylee's body was found. Des...do you know?

LE got a warrant in August 2008 after Cindy told them about removing a pair of slacks from Casey's car and washing them "cause they smelt nasty. page 30 line 14 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/cynthia%20anthony.pdf If you keep reading, she washed all the other clothes brought home from Tone's because they smelled like smoke.

The warrant - http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2008-08/41493180.pdf

YES! That answers my question I posted earlier!!!

Wasn't it reported the grey pinstripe pants were the ones Cindy removed from Casey's car, Cindy washed them and put them back in Casey's closet? Didn't Cindy also say she washed the clothes from Tone's because they smelled like smoke?

On page 12, http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/trunkevidence.pdf are a list of items removed from east room closet at Hopespring Drive.

On pages 13 - 14, all the items are listed as worn and/or worn and soiled.

:eek:

[Lavinya]

I wish it was a 10,000 infraction capacity.......lol.

I can get to between 3000-3500 and I roll back the odometer.

Aren't there going to be more docs today?

[Pierre]

he's a weird one, too. I was surprised he's out on bond.

He got Casey's cuffs!? The horror...:tonguewag:


Very fitting, theres a thread on ward and im the only one over there.

[Pam1569]

Hey all wftv has just put up all 1405 pages that were released today

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

[Lavinya]

you, you...my seat at the library is still warm, you want it?

O/T anybody following the ward case?? There must be something in the water in FL. I thought he may be related to the Anthony's except he has money.

I don't want it but I may get it, lol.

I haven't been following the Ward case. I'll check it out though.

[Scampi]

Neither am I, sis. Just looking for that schmokin gun, ya know? :sneaky:

Everyone should check the banned list if they haven't since, oh, a recent circular discussion about notaries. :laugh:

Thank you. :wink:

Lavie, I doubt it, maybe Monday?

[Lavinya]

Neither am I, sis. Just looking for that schmokin gun, ya know? :sneaky:

Everyone should check the banned list if they haven't since, oh, a recent circular discussion about notaries. :laugh:

Saw it. :thumbsup:

[Lavinya]

Thank you. :wink:

Lavie, I doubt it, maybe Monday?

Oops, check out Pam's post Scampers.

[hello its me]

Very fitting, theres a thread on ward and im the only one over there.


oh..I didn't see it. I only saw his case when looking for Casey stuff. No one seems too upset over the wife/sister/mother dying, eh? Did she have a funeral yet...

sorry o/t here. Waiting for more documents to devour...

[BettyC]

Hey all wftv has just put up all 1405 pages that were released today

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

Thanks Pam !! I am really multi-tasking today and need to catch up. Appreciate it.

[Scampi]

Oops, check out Pam's post Scampers.

Thanks lavie, I saw it. But, surely we will eventually get all the RESULTS of this testing, or do you think that will be reserved for trial?

[TunaMelt]

Hey all wftv has just put up all 1405 pages that were released today

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

:thumbsup:

Thanks again, Pam!

:seeya:

[desmom]

I'm thinking "worn" vs. new from the store. And I'm thinking "soiled" as perhaps a spot that wouldn't come out with washing? (Just wonder if most of our clothes, examined in this context, would not be considered "worn and soiled.")

Wouldn't the report say "stained" and not soiled?

:shrug:

[desmom]

Ah ... good point, desmom. "Stained" would definitely be a more appropriate description.

So wonder how they got "soiled" again if Cynthia Anthony washed them to remove the odor of her dead granddaughter?

Did Cindy lie to LE? :eek:

[Pam1569]

Did Cindy lie to LE? :eek:

Say it isn't so desmom. Cindy lied to the law. :laugh:

[msgatorslayer]

Say it isn't so desmom. Cindy lied to the law. :laugh:

Noooooo! Not Cindy!:laugh:

[msgatorslayer]

:crying: Pics of Caylee's clothes.

[Scampi]

Can anyone tell if the WFTV docs #1405 have any of the test results in them?

Oh, and please give the page number when discussing stuff.

[msgatorslayer]

Why is there a large area blacked out in the pic on page 704? What are they hiding?

[KTBarTheDoor]

Say it isn't so desmom. Cindy lied to the law. :laugh:

Didnt cindy have a pair of slacks on one day in court? Dang maybe cindy washed them and then wore them to court so casey could see the pants...:shrug:

[need2no]

Hey all wftv has just put up all 1405 pages that were released today

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

:w00t: Thanks Pam. Our eyes will be shot by the end of the day.

[msgatorslayer]

Perfect pic of the heart sticker. Pg 728

:crying:These are all sad pics.

[KTBarTheDoor]

Just that one time.

And all those other times.

And pretty much whenever she spoke with investigators. And the media.

Oh heck... the answer to your question is a resounding YES.

Too bad FLA. aren't like IL you lie to them , you're in the county hotel. for obstruction and on high bond..cindy nor george would not get by with all the lies and destroying the evidence in IL.they'd had a new address. Still wondering why Fla hasn't done anything to these people.

[Scampi]

Perfect pic of the heart sticker. Pg 728

:crying:These are all sad pics.

Thanks Msgator, it's taking my computer forever to load the pdf, love your reporting.

[msgatorslayer]

pg 745, is that Momma Doll?

[no1what]

Can anyone tell if the WFTV docs #1405 have any of the test results in them?

Oh, and please give the page number when discussing stuff.

I'm still reading thru them. I am looking for the test result for the hair found on the shovel.

[num1barb]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

On page 150 it looks like they took black trash bags with red handles AND some with yellow handles too.

[KatieLady]

Perfect pic of the heart sticker. Pg 728

:crying:These are all sad pics.

Are those her teeth on pg 724 :sad:

[msgatorslayer]

pg 760-769 pics of all the different pull ups.

My eyes can't take reading through all the docs. I'm best suited for looking at the pics.:wink:

[denjet]

Neither am I, sis. Just looking for that schmokin gun, ya know? :sneaky:

Everyone should check the banned list if they haven't since, oh, a recent circular discussion about notaries. :laugh:
Welllll, today is REALLY turning out to be a good day !! :w00t:

[msgatorslayer]

Are those her teeth on pg 724 :sad:

I kinda skipped past it, unsure of what it was. My first thought was a 'binky', then, a bone, however, there are no other pics that look like bones so, I dunno.

[KatieLady]

pg 745, is that Momma Doll?

Looks like it msgator :sad:

[BlueTurtle]

I looked up bedsores (pics) to compare to the pic of casey's back...
TRUST ME, you do not want to look up images of bedsores. barf

I also looked up pics of back acne, and I suppose it could be that but casey's 'bumps' appear to be more flat looking, than raised, like back acne.

Could she be allergic to the detergent used to launder the lovely uniform she wears?

Bed bugs????

Probably acne from sweating and not able to shower once or more per day.

[KatieLady]

I kinda skipped past it, unsure of what it was. My first thought was a 'binky', then, a bone, however, there are no other pics that look like bones so, I dunno.

They almost look like they are in a plastic bag??

[Lavinya]

I kinda skipped past it, unsure of what it was. My first thought was a 'binky', then, a bone, however, there are no other pics that look like bones so, I dunno.

I believe that is a hair clip I saw referred to earlier.

[KatieLady]

I believe that is a hair clip I saw referred to earlier.

Are you talking about pg 727?

[Lavinya]

We finally see a pic of the elusive dinner knife! It is indeed sharp.

[Kathlb]

Neither am I, sis. Just looking for that schmokin gun, ya know? :sneaky:

Everyone should check the banned list if they haven't since, oh, a recent circular discussion about notaries. :laugh:

I've never known where the banned list is. Can you direct me pretty please and thank you. :-)

[denjet]

I can get to between 3000-3500 and I roll back the odometer.

Aren't there going to be more docs today?
Hi Lavinya!
WFTV just posted one huge PDF 300MB so if you got highspeed broadband ... it took quite a while for me to download ... 25 min ... and I have a fast connection ....
Hopefully it will be broken up later into separate PDFs

Entire Doc Dump (http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html)

[Lavinya]

Are you talking about pg 727?

Hmm, on my download it's 9749. Q98, I believe. 90115014.

[Pierre]

oh..I didn't see it. I only saw his case when looking for Casey stuff. No one seems too upset over the wife/sister/mother dying, eh? Did she have a funeral yet...

sorry o/t here. Waiting for more documents to devour...

not that i know of. he thread is under current crimes

[Lavinya]

I've never known where the banned list is. Can you direct me pretty please and thank you. :-)

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showgroups.php

[Lavinya]

Hi Lavinya!
WFTV just posted one huge PDF 300MB so if you got highspeed broadband ... it took quite a while for me to download ... 25 min ... and I have a fast connection ....
Hopefully it will be broken up later into separate PDFs

Entire Doc Dump (http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html)

I think I have the same one, DJ. Thanks!

[KatieLady]

Hmm, on my download it's 9749. Q98, I believe. 90115014.

Ok....I think we are looking at different things. I am here

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

[Lavinya]

Ok....I think we are looking at different things. I am here

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

Okay, kkkkkk, I'm downloading to check.

[KatieLady]

We finally see a pic of the elusive dinner knife! It is indeed sharp.

Just saw it and you are right...much sharper than I thought a dinner knife would be.....with the point at the tip like that.

ETA pg 744

[KatieLady]

Page 746 Is the "mat" they talked about that lit up?

[msgatorslayer]

Page 746 Is the "mat" they talked about that lit up?

Looks like one of those outdoor carpets. If further testing didn't show bodily fluids, IMO, it probably lit up under the light because of pool chemicals that George may have spilled on it.

[Lavinya]

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, because I clicked on you guys' links but I'm not coming up with the same page number you are? :confused:

[KatieLady]

Looks like one of those outdoor carpets. If further testing didn't show bodily fluids, IMO, it probably lit up under the light because of pool chemicals that George may have spilled on it.

Thanks! Just read on pg 794 that they think the shirt came from Now and Zen. Gives the website. I just looked and can't find that shirt. I wonder if they took it off after Caylee died?

[KatieLady]

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, because I clicked on you guys' links but I'm not coming up with the same page number you are? :confused:

That is strange....does yours have 1405 pages?

[Lavinya]

that is strange....does yours have 1405 pages?

9022-10439.

21252103 is the pdf I have.

[KatieLady]

9022-10439.

21252103 is the pdf I have.



21252257 is the one I am looking at

[Pomme]

I'm only on page 10 of the thread, but I had to stop, cry, and say that I feel like screaming with sadness and outrage at what that baby had to go through. I am praying to God SO HARD right now that she was drugged so she had no awareness of what that demon was doing to her.

I am crying for you, sweetheart...for Caylee. :crying:

[Lavinya]

21252257 is the one I am looking at

Okay, going to look for it. THX!

[KatieLady]

Pg 866 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

They did DNA on the flat iron and blow up bed because G&C said they used to be at the Nanny's house. Absence of anybody else's DNA would show there was no Nanny :biggrin:

[Lavinya]

Pg 866 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

They did DNA on the flat iron and blow up bed because G&C said they used to be at the Nanny's house. Absence of anybody else's DNA would show there was no Nanny :biggrin:

Ohhh, smooth move! :thumbsup:

[KatieLady]

Ohhh, smooth move! :thumbsup:

Dontcha just love it! And Casey thinks she can outsmart these guys :rolleyes:

[crimeq]

Thanks Des, for reposting this. I found a few interesting things that I had forgotten. Mr. Grund did say that casey anthony mentioned the name Zenaida Gonzoles (without the Fernandez) back when his family was watching Caylee

and

That according to george, both he and cindy knew that Jesse Grund was not the father, before the paternity test proved it. That was new to me.
Shows the character of these people, imo.

Hi Scampi :seeya:, the Jesse Grund paternity scenario suggests to me that Casey did not know the identity of the father, and had told Cindy that. Cindy wanted a father for the baby, and Jesse was handy. This is a different scenario than Cindy wanting full control, wanting to cut out the birthfather, IMO. I think she was embarrassed and would prefer that Casey could name the father of her baby.

[Lavinya]

Pg 866 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

They did DNA on the flat iron and blow up bed because G&C said they used to be at the Nanny's house. Absence of anybody else's DNA would show there was no Nanny :biggrin:

It's a lost cause. I click on that link and it shows I'm going to get the number PDF you cite, but then it comes up as the PDF I cite. :confused:

[KatieLady]

On pg 918 and these are the first results I have seen but I think this is the stuff we already knew about the hair.

Haven't found any other lab results yet...guess we have to wait until trial *sigh*

[jakee]

I don't know what the picture is on handwritten page number 9735. It looks scary.

[KatieLady]

It's a lost cause. I click on that link and it shows I'm going to get the number PDF you cite, but then it comes up as the PDF I cite. :confused:

That is just so strange!! Wish I could help but I have no clue what the problem could be :confused:

[Lavinya]

That is just so strange!! Wish I could help but I have no clue what the problem could be :confused:

Thanks Katie. It seems like I have the same thing ya'll do, just different page numbers.

[desmom]

Look at how the adhesive is deteriorated on the back of the duct tape removed from the gas can on page 619 (handwritten number bottom right hand corner of page is 9641) http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

[Scampi]

On page #624 of the PDF and hand written page 9646 in the lower right corner, under Debris from Skull, I noticed that they found several blue cotton fibers. I hope they are able to match them to something KC wore, a blue hoodie for example.

[desmom]

It's a lost cause. I click on that link and it shows I'm going to get the number PDF you cite, but then it comes up as the PDF I cite. :confused:

Clear your history and try again.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

[BettyC]

pg 745, is that Momma Doll?

Yes, I read in the report they wanted it in case it had come in contact with the body after she was killed.

[BettyC]

It's a lost cause. I click on that link and it shows I'm going to get the number PDF you cite, but then it comes up as the PDF I cite. :confused:

There are handwritten page #s and page #s of the pdf itself. Could that be the confusion?

[need2no]

Hamper on pg. 1220 of the docs. It is so sad to think this is where Caylee spent her last day on this earth. :crying:

[Kathlb]

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showgroups.php

Thank you Lavinya! :thumbup:

[Lavinya]

There are handwritten page #s and page #s of the pdf itself. Could that be the confusion?

No Bets, the numbers out to the side are in the thousands also (they correlate with the hand written numbers). No biggie, I just can't compare along with you guys. It's curious.

[BettyC]

Hamper on pg. 1220 of the docs. It is so sad to think this is where Caylee spent her last day on this earth. :crying:

And don't you just KNOW that if George and Cindy look at that photo and the one of the garbage bags with yellow ties, they KNOW they came from their house.

[KatieLady]

Lavinia...look at your #9746...this is the pic with teeth????

[Lavinya]

Lavinia...look at your #9746...this is the pic with teeth????

Wow, while it *looks* like teeth, I think her teeth were really scattered along the lot and look at the scale. I *think* what looks like teeth are too big. See what you think.

ETA: For example, what looks like a tooth furtherance to the right, would be about 3/8's of an inch wide and I think that's too wide for an incisor baby tooth.

[Pierre]

Pg 866 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

They did DNA on the flat iron and blow up bed because G&C said they used to be at the Nanny's house. Absence of anybody else's DNA would show there was no Nanny :biggrin:


and the back pack too, because Casey said her and nanny shared the backpack.
wow! alot of debris in that area pages and pages of common trash!
Also noticed a doll collected from Hopespring drive I believe; I cant read the top of the page where it says location.

[Scampi]

And don't you just KNOW that if George and Cindy look at that photo and the one of the garbage bags with yellow ties, they KNOW they came from their house.

Bet, there's not a doubt in my mind these parents know and have for some time.

Caylee who?

Appalling behavior, imo. :mad:

[farrahrani]

Hi Scampi :seeya:, the Jesse Grund paternity scenario suggests to me that Casey did not know the identity of the father, and had told Cindy that. Cindy wanted a father for the baby, and Jesse was handy. This is a different scenario than Cindy wanting full control, wanting to cut out the birthfather, IMO. I think she was embarrassed and would prefer that Casey could name the father of her baby.



She may not have known the identity but I don't believe that Casey did not know it wasn't Jesse. This smacks of her the same attitude as she had with the detectives at Universal, keeping up her lie even after she was dragged all the way over there, until she was forced to admit she had no job.

I believe she agreed to that DNA test, hoping someone would step in and call it off at the last minute. Or that she could claim total ignorance of the results, swearing that she believed Jesse was the father.

[jakee]

and the back pack too, because Casey said her and nanny shared the backpack.
wow! alot of debris in that area pages and pages of common trash!
Also noticed a doll collected from Hopespring drive I believe; I cant read the top of the page where it says location.

They had to rule out any latents that may belong to one of her many boyfriends. Oh Casey.:sneaky:

I am glad they tested all that for fingerprints.

[desmom]

Hello Everyone.

I have never posted on this web before but I wanted to give you a little indication what it is like to be me. I will answer these questions for you and you can understand why I don't go further. I appreciate how kind you have been to my family. The shovel was has been a thorn in our sides for a bit. It is rusty because it came with us from Illinois. I have no idea why Brian did not remove the sticker I am going to go with because he is a guy. You are correct it was barely used.

Thank you :wub:

Welcome to the Boards! I am glad you decided to join us. :seeya:

I will back you up on rusting tools in IL. If they are not cleaned, dried and occasionally oiled, they rust!

[Lavinya]

Okay, using my numbers (the numbers that are written in) do you think 10256 is the hair clip?

[Lavinya]

Hello Everyone.

I have never posted on this web before but I wanted to give you a little indication what it is like to be me. I will answer these questions for you and you can understand why I don't go further. I appreciate how kind you have been to my family. The shovel was has been a thorn in our sides for a bit. It is rusty because it came with us from Illinois. I have no idea why Brian did not remove the sticker I am going to go with because he is a guy. You are correct it was barely used.

Thank you :wub:

Hi witness, are you associated with this case?

[desmom]

Pic of clothes found with Caylee's remains begin on page 700 (handwritten 9722)
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

[impartial]

I have tried downloading the pdf files several times, the first time, it downloaded about half and then froze up, now when I try, it freezes before downloading anything.

Any suggestions?

TIA

[Pierre]

Hello Everyone.

I have never posted on this web before but I wanted to give you a little indication what it is like to be me. I will answer these questions for you and you can understand why I don't go further. I appreciate how kind you have been to my family. The shovel was has been a thorn in our sides for a bit. It is rusty because it came with us from Illinois. I have no idea why Brian did not remove the sticker I am going to go with because he is a guy. You are correct it was barely used.

Thank you :wub:

Welcome to the board Mrs. Burner. I have no questions for you and appreciate your posting here. I feel for your family and anyone else that has come in contact with the Anthony's.

[desmom]

Okay, using my numbers (the numbers that are written in) do you think 10256 is the hair clip?

I vote yes.

[BettyC]

I have tried downloading the pdf files several times, the first time, it downloaded about half and then froze up, now when I try, it freezes before downloading anything.

Any suggestions?

TIA

I decided to save it to my hard drive. It works much better that way. I'm sure the "traffic" at the site is causing a slowdown.

At the top left you get the option to save it.

[Pierre]

They had to rule out any latents that may belong to one of her many boyfriends. Oh Casey.:sneaky:

I am glad they tested all that for fingerprints.

Ok
So I noticed that Casy has 23 pairs of shoes. Why should she get a job?KWIM. Maybe thats not alot of shoes.IDK I have 3 pair, but what does a guy know about shoes?

[Scampi]

I have tried downloading the pdf files several times, the first time, it downloaded about half and then froze up, now when I try, it freezes before downloading anything.

Any suggestions?

TIA

Yes, make sure you are utilizing the proper scroller, there are two, right next to each other. That threw me off. One close to the right edge and one to the PDF itself, use this one.

[Sun]

The defense is correct. :wink: There is nothing in the forensics from the site on Suburban Drive or the Anthony home that Casey/defense can use to prove that someone other than Casey was the perp. Or even to establish reasonable doubt. Me'thinks that the defense was hoping to base some of their defense on the forensics... :tonguewag:

[need2no]

Ok
So I noticed that Casy has 23 pairs of shoes. Why should she get a job?KWIM. Maybe thats not alot of shoes.IDK I have 3 pair, but what does a guy know about shoes?

Not in school, no job, not independently wealthy....yeah, I'd say that's too many shoes. But heck, it appears the Anthony family never gets rid of anything. Maybe she's had some of those shoes since high school.

[farrahrani]

Ok
So I noticed that Casy has 23 pairs of shoes. Why should she get a job?KWIM. Maybe thats not alot of shoes.IDK I have 3 pair, but what does a guy know about shoes?

No thats a LOT of shoes.

That's excessive even for me and I used to adore shoes around that age. I had maybe a dozen pairs for different purposes, different heights and colors for different outfits or whatever...but then again I was working and NEEDED different types of shoes, depending on what I was doing that day. That's just insane, nobody who doesn't work needs that many freaking pairs of shoes. :sneaky:

[desmom]

I have tried downloading the pdf files several times, the first time, it downloaded about half and then froze up, now when I try, it freezes before downloading anything.

Any suggestions?

TIA

Clear your cookies?

I had a heck of time getting it to download with broadband. I finally had to walk away and let it load without me. I kept trying to read and scroll while it was downloading.

[Sun]

Dumb question alert. :confused:

What is a fringe hair?
What is a fur hair?

[KatieLady]

Wow, while it *looks* like teeth, I think her teeth were really scattered along the lot and look at the scale. I *think* what looks like teeth are too big. See what you think.

ETA: For example, what looks like a tooth furtherance to the right, would be about 3/8's of an inch wide and I think that's too wide for an incisor baby tooth.

You are probably right. And truthfully I hope you are. I don't like thinking I have seen the poor baby's teeth like that :sad:

[BettyC]

The defense is correct. :wink: There is nothing in the forensics from the site on Suburban Drive or the Anthony home that Casey/defense can use to prove that someone other than Casey was the perp. Or even to establish reasonable doubt. Me'thinks that the defense was hoping to base some of their defense on the forensics... :tonguewag:

Reminder, reminder. Have you been to traffic court today?

[KatieLady]

Okay, using my numbers (the numbers that are written in) do you think 10256 is the hair clip?

Yes...I believe it is

[Pierre]

The defense is correct. :wink: There is nothing in the forensics from the site on Suburban Drive or the Anthony home that Casey/defense can use to prove that someone other than Casey was the perp. Or even to establish reasonable doubt. Me'thinks that the defense was hoping to base some of their defense on the forensics... :tonguewag:

And thats amazing considering all the carp they found out there.

[KatieLady]

Hello Everyone.

I have never posted on this web before but I wanted to give you a little indication what it is like to be me. I will answer these questions for you and you can understand why I don't go further. I appreciate how kind you have been to my family. The shovel was has been a thorn in our sides for a bit. It is rusty because it came with us from Illinois. I have no idea why Brian did not remove the sticker I am going to go with because he is a guy. You are correct it was barely used.

Thank you :wub:

Welcome to the boards :seeya:

Hope you will stick around and post with us!

[crimeq]

Mornin' folks!
Oh boy, looks like we'll see the news docs today!! yay!
Here's a slideshow of KC and her tatt:
(I didn't see the whole slideshow posted yet, so here it is)
Photos of KC's Tattoo (http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/21249090/detail.html)

whew ... they are NOT very flattering!!

Wow, her skin is in bad shape. Definitely not a 10.

[crimeq]

May I ask how much that tattoo cost.

It isn't even an attractive tattoo, IMO. That it's in Italian is significant, though -- that was for her Italian BF, she was anticipating a "beautiful life" with him (practicing writing her married name, lol). I wonder how much of Casey's motive was ala Susan Smith, get rid of the kid(s), get the man.

[KatieLady]

It isn't even an attractive tattoo, IMO. That it's in Italian is significant, though -- that was for her Italian BF, she was anticipating a "beautiful life" with him (practicing writing her married name, lol). I wonder how much of Casey's motive was ala Susan Smith, get rid of the kid(s), get the man.

IMO it had everything to do with it

[desmom]

Dumb question alert. :confused:

What is a fringe hair?
What is a fur hair?

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/backissu/july2000/deedric1.htm
Fringe Hairs
Hairs originating from areas of the body outside those specifically designated as head or pubic are generally not suitable for significant comparison purposes. These hairs might originate from the neck, sideburns, abdomen, upper leg, and back.

A quick scan by me -IMO, fur hairs are mentioned throughout the link when discussing animals.

jmo

[Lavinya]

Ok
So I noticed that Casy has 23 pairs of shoes. Why should she get a job?KWIM. Maybe thats not alot of shoes.IDK I have 3 pair, but what does a guy know about shoes?

I would give Imelda Marcos a run for her money now, but when I was as poor as Casey, I *might* have a couple of pair, but I didn't feel entitled until we made money.

[Sun]

Reminder, reminder. Have you been to traffic court today?

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! New entry.

10/9/2009 A INFRACTION HEARING SET FOR 12/04/2009 11:00 AM

[crimeq]

Jail life isn't very flattering. Her back looks horrible.

No more Target bras and lingerie for her. It's jail issued sports bras from now on.

Hi gator, I seem to recall that she bought sports bras from the commissary. Who knows what they actually issue ... but I believe Casey spent her own unearned dollars on sports bras.

[Sun]

http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/backissu/july2000/deedric1.htm
Fringe Hairs
Hairs originating from areas of the body outside those specifically designated as head or pubic are generally not suitable for significant comparison purposes. These hairs might originate from the neck, sideburns, abdomen, upper leg, and back.

A quick scan by me -IMO, fur hairs are mentioned throughout the link when discussing animals.

jmo

Thanks desmom, You are WONDERFUL!

[Lavinya]

How about the numbers along the top of the PDF, next to the icons?

I think the deal is I'm on my Mac and the program "Preview" is opening it as opposed to Adobe. For some reason, I can't get Adobe to open it. Not a problem, though as long as I have everything.

[BettyC]

Legal analyst Bill Sheaffer from WFTV is saying she most likely died of suffocation due to several pieces of duct tape being put over her mouth.

http://www.wftv.com/video/21253211/index.html

[KatieLady]

Legal analyst Bill Sheaffer from WFTV is saying she most likely died of suffocation due to several pieces of duct tape being put over her mouth.

http://www.wftv.com/video/21253211/index.html

I just HATE the thought of this. Poor thing knew what was happening and who was doing it if this is true

:sad:
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[nana6]

Hi friends, I have not been on here for several days. I am out of town but had to check in with you all. Did new docs. come out? If so, I will start at the beginning today. Thank you, Nana :smile:

[Lavinya]

Hi friends, I have not been on here for several days. I am out of town but had to check in with you all. Did new docs. come out? If so, I will start at the beginning today. Thank you, Nana :smile:

Good to see you nana! Yes, we got docs! :thumbsup: Including Casey tattoo pics.

[BettyC]

Hi friends, I have not been on here for several days. I am out of town but had to check in with you all. Did new docs. come out? If so, I will start at the beginning today. Thank you, Nana :smile:

1400 and some pages nana -

You can see all the pages or look at the specific ones they've put on their page.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21248759/detail.html

[impartial]

Thanks to all for the suggestions. I updated my adobe, now I am going to clean cookies, etc., and try again. Keeping fingers crossed.

:smile:

[BettyC]

Thanks to all for the suggestions. I updated my adobe, now I am going to clean cookies, etc., and try again. Keeping fingers crossed.

:smile:

Good luck impartial.

[Pierre]

It's a lost cause. I click on that link and it shows I'm going to get the number PDF you cite, but then it comes up as the PDF I cite. :confused:

Listen, My eyes are bleeding and all ive learned is Casey has a bad tatoo, back acne, and 23 pairs of shoes.
Not hardly worth the download!

[Neffy]

1400 and some pages nana -

You can see all the pages or look at the specific ones they've put on their page.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21248759/detail.html

Thank you BC! Didn't see anything in links and since Nana asked I was waiting for one of you super sleuths to throw us a line!

:seeya:

[Neffy]

Wow big TAT! I didn't expect it to be that big! Holy Cow!

[desmom]

desmom,

When Casey took Caylee from the home that evening after the argument with Cindy, where did she stay that night if you know and was Caylee with her then? Or was that the night she drove around and was seen early in the morning in a parking lot somewhere in Orlando?

I am brain dead reading doc dumps today. Was it ever positively absolutely 100% determined Casey and Caylee left Sunday evening June 15? Something came up on that recently and I can't remember.

Lenny, the bounty hunter, said Casey was spotted in a parking lot of a nearby hotel/motel.

I do not believe she stayed at Tone's or Ricardo/Amy's because they would have told LE.

Maybe she went shopping at a 24 hour big box store. :tonguewag:

jmo

[crimeq]

Hi den,
Not to be gross or be disrespectful to Caylee, but did anyone else notice on pic #7 of the slide show on wftv that it looks like Caylee's skull is in the glue that was on the duct tape. :crying:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249759/detail.html

My heart just aches for that poor darling little girl :-(

[nana6]

Good to see you nana! Yes, we got docs! :thumbsup: Including Casey tattoo pics.

Hi Lavi, Thank you. Yes, I did look at the tats on her back. My or my, I was surprised. I am not sure why. I just thought it would be a pretty little feminine looking tat and it was not imo.
Well,I guess I have my work cut out for me reading tonight. It will be hard though because i am down visiting my Mama and sisters in good old Missoura :) as we pronounce it.

[nana6]

1400 and some pages nana -

You can see all the pages or look at the specific ones they've put on their page.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21248759/detail.html

Thank you so much Betty. I will go from here then. :wub:

[crimeq]

That would wind around her entire head.:crying:

How absolutely evil.

Hi Tuna, this is how I know Casey never intended to take the tape off -- as in, she wasn't trying to quiet a crying Caylee planning to remove the tape later -- she wouldn't have wrapped it around Caylee's hair, if she were planning on removing the tape. Imagine trying to get that tape out of a living child's hair.

It's heartbreaking to see those pieces of duct tape, but I am glad we are seeing the story. I do believe there will be justice for Caylee.

[Lavinya]

Listen, My eyes are bleeding and all ive learned is Casey has a bad tatoo, back acne, and 23 pairs of shoes.
Not hardly worth the download!

Pierre, you ingrate! :punch:!!! :laugh:

[Sun]

The previously reported Caucasian head hair exhibiting characteristics of apparent decomposition at the proximal end (specimen Q12.1){the one trunk hair} exhibits the same microscopic characteristics as the Caucasian head hairs found in specimen Q59 {the hair mass}. Accordingly, specimen Q12.1 and the Caucasian head hairs found in specimen Q59 are consistent with originating from the same source. Discovery Page #9619


(typos in the above are mine).

[BettyC]

Me neither. And it's not even a nice one.

Doesn't it just SCREAM "Look at me"?! :mad:

and just think, as she expands over the years (as we all do), the tatoo will expand even larger.

[Citygirl]

The previously reported Caucasian head hair exhibiting characteristics of apparent decomposition at the proximal end (specimen Q12.1){the one trunk hair} exhibits the same microscopic characteristics as the Caucasian head hairs found in specimen Q59 {the hair mass}. Accordingly, specimen Q12.1 and the Caucasian head hairs found in specimen Q59 are consistent with originating from the same source. Discovery Page #9619


(typos in the above are mine).


This is a gotcha moment..yep..CMA..gotcha.

[nana6]

Since the very beginning of this case I have followed. I thought I was prepared because of all of the posts I have read here. When I saw those pics of the tape today I just got sick to my stomach. Really. I had visions of that beautiful little soul looking up into her mother's eyes. May Caylee get the justice she deserves. I pray for that daily.:sad:

[Lavinya]

Me neither. And it's not even a nice one.

Doesn't it just SCREAM "Look at me"?! :mad:

Yes, it does, and I think we're ALL tired of people yelling to look at them, IYKWIM. :wink:

[Lavinya]

Okay, so much for lunch. Lav ruined my breakfast with a detailed description of scabies. :mad:

Hopefully I'll be able to keep dinner down. :bored:

Let me know when it's dinner time and we can discuss Baez. :laugh:

[BettyC]

I found this interesting -
On Page 263 of 1405

Q-63 - Attempted to photographically capture "image" of heart.
Unable to do so.

So they didn't "forget" to take a photo of it before they tested it for fingerprints. The image just wouldn't show up apparently.

Page 285

Digital image of speciments Q62 through Q64 are retained.

Page 610 has the photo of the specific piece of tape where the lab tech saw the residue shaped like a heart.

[Neffy]

Hi Lavi, Thank you. Yes, I did look at the tats on her back. My or my, I was surprised. I am not sure why. I just thought it would be a pretty little feminine looking tat and it was not imo.
Well,I guess I have my work cut out for me reading tonight. It will be hard though because i am down visiting my Mama and sisters in good old Missoura :) as we pronounce it.

Hi Nana, I concur. I really thought the tat was going to be some tiny little feminine thing. NOT an in your FACE tat Geez!

[denjet]

I am brain dead reading doc dumps today. Was it ever positively absolutely 100% determined Casey and Caylee left Sunday evening June 15? Something came up on that recently and I can't remember.

Lenny, the bounty hunter, said Casey was spotted in a parking lot of a nearby hotel/motel.

I do not believe she stayed at Tone's or Ricardo/Amy's because they would have told LE.

Maybe she went shopping at a 24 hour big box store. :tonguewag:

jmo
Hi des!
I don't think it was, but good ole Lenny was the one that said someone saw KC, like you said, near her car, pacing back and forth, talking on her cell ... we know she spent hours on the phone with Tony that night into the early morn ... It seems logical to me that if KC stormed out of the house after the fight and had no money to get a room she may have slept in her car ... in any case, I really don't see her staying at the house with Cindy because I'm sure Cindy wasn't going to drop it ... and not just the stealing, KC activities for the month or so, not bringing Caylee on Cindy's birthday ... there were a whole bunch of things that Cindy was PO'd about ...

Anyway, I'm with the peeps that say KC left that night, George lied ... so did Cindy ... "I could hear them sleeping" ... puleeze

[Neffy]

I found this interesting -
On Page 263 of 1405

Q-63 - Attempted to photographically capture "image" of heart.
Unable to do so.

So they didn't "forget" to take a photo of it before they tested it for fingerprints. The image just wouldn't show up apparently.

Page 285

Digital image of speciments Q62 through Q64 are retained.

Page 610 has the photo of the specific piece of tape where the lab tech saw the residue shaped like a heart.

Leave it to Baez and CO to scream no picture no image - it doesn't exist. Spinmeisters.

[nana6]

I found this interesting -
On Page 263 of 1405

Q-63 - Attempted to photographically capture "image" of heart.
Unable to do so.

So they didn't "forget" to take a photo of it before they tested it for fingerprints. The image just wouldn't show up apparently.

Page 285

Digital image of speciments Q62 through Q64 are retained.

Page 610 has the photo of the specific piece of tape where the lab tech saw the residue shaped like a heart.



Hi Betty, So then we should not be worried. Because of the info on page 610 right? The Pros. can ask that person on the stand all about what they saw on the tap I assume that.

[BettyC]

Hi Betty, So then we should not be worried. Because of the info on page 610 right? The Pros. can ask that person on the stand all about what they saw on the tap I assume that.

That's what we've heard. It will all come down to credibility on the stand I would think.

[nana6]

That's what we've heard. It will all come down to credibility on the stand I would think.

Bbl Have to go for now.

[crimeq]

Yes, he took Accutane and got a blood disorder.

Yes, and according to Cindy, that's what made Lee turn away from god/church/religion.

[TunaMelt]

Hello Everyone.

I have never posted on this web before but I wanted to give you a little indication what it is like to be me. I will answer these questions for you and you can understand why I don't go further. I appreciate how kind you have been to my family. The shovel was has been a thorn in our sides for a bit. It is rusty because it came with us from Illinois. I have no idea why Brian did not remove the sticker I am going to go with because he is a guy. You are correct it was barely used.

Thank you :wub:

Again, please?
Your last sentence is more confusing than the whole of your post.

Or are we already playing "guess who I am" Friday afternoon games?

:mellow:

[KTBarTheDoor]

and just think, as she expands over the years (as we all do), the tatoo will expand even larger.

Yep! I just wonder what her next tatoo was going to be?

[Neffy]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252744/detail.html

Now what is this. This heart on page 31. What's it stuck to. When they have this why is a big deal being made out of the adhesive outline missing on the tape.

[crimeq]

Caylee didn't get her favorite Mama Dolly.... the one that she held on to instead of having a real Mama. The photos of Caylee strapped in her car seat with her Mama Doll staring at the back of Casey's head-- the dolly was Caylee's comfort. :-(




NO Casey had to keep the Mama Dolly in the car away from her. *spiteful* as if murdering her was not enough. If the Nanny had
Caylee then the Nanny and Caylee would have Mama Dolly and Poo
Blankie.

Wonder where Caylee's favorite book is. ?????????

We've speculated that Casey may have left her car at Amscot hoping it would be stolen, at which point she could have claimed Caylee was in the car--having Caylee's carseat and favorite doll in the car would lend that story credibility. She couldn't put Caylee's favorite doll with her because it was "proof" that Caylee had been in the car.

Of course there's no telling whether a thief would ditch the carseat and doll before ditching the car, but Casey probably was smart enough to know that no thief would keep the smelly car for very long. She just wanted someone else's fingerprints on it ....

[desmom]

page 1131 (handwritten 10153) http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

Q60 Debris from Skull
Hairs - Caucasian Origin Head Hair (several) - approximately < 3", brown and light brown, apparent decomp root and club root - like Q59 hairs with apparent decomp roots
Animal Hair - 1 black and brown banded guard hair with large medulla - not dog or cat
Not suitable for significant comparison - body hair, fragment
Fibers - Cotton - blue (several)

guard hairs - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guard_hair - Guard hairs are the longest, most coarse hairs in a mammal's coat, forming the topcoat (or outer coat).

medulla - http://www.fbi.gov/hq/lab/fsc/backissu/jan2004/research/2004_01_research01b.htm - The medulla is a central core of cells that may be present in the hair.

:cursing:

[Neffy]

Gee. Guess it was Caylee the person who snuck back and forth into the towyard was putting in to and taking out of Casey's trunk. :rolleyes:

Going on the premise as long as it's not Casey you'd be correct :rolleyes:

[crimeq]

Was Baez present for this photo-op?

That's my girl!!:wub:

Great question. I wonder if he was lusting after his girl's skin.

[neid_77]

I cannot imagine those huge eyes of hers, so full of panic, looking up at her mother as she tries to breathe and can't. Unimaginable. There's a monster inside Casey Anthony that I can't fathom. Thank God.

This Case IS!!!! a death penalty case!:cursing:


Caylee Marie:wub::wub:

I couldn't look at the clothes much knowing that little baby's body was put out in the elements CAN YOU IMAGINE!! I know everything Caylee was and still is was with the Lord But to treat your duaghters remains in such a way!! i could care less if she is fried to a crisp!!

[no1what]

The previously reported Caucasian head hair exhibiting characteristics of apparent decomposition at the proximal end (specimen Q12.1){the one trunk hair} exhibits the same microscopic characteristics as the Caucasian head hairs found in specimen Q59 {the hair mass}. Accordingly, specimen Q12.1 and the Caucasian head hairs found in specimen Q59 are consistent with originating from the same source. Discovery Page #9619


(typos in the above are mine).


What about the results for the hair found on the shovel borrowed from the neighbors? I tried reading but too much repeated info.

[Neffy]

This Case IS!!!! a death penalty case!:cursing:


Caylee Marie:wub::wub:

I couldn't look at the clothes much knowing that little baby's body was put out in the elements CAN YOU IMAGINE!! I know everything Caylee was and still is was with the Lord But to treat your duaghters remains in such a way!! i could care less if she is fried to a crisp!!

Agreed. The rotted clothing/tape is extremely unsettleing knowing what they encompassed and her remains followed suit.

[crimeq]

Yeah, I'm fairly sure she's going to be AD SEG material.

What is the "AD" in "AD SEG", Lavinia? Thanks.

[onlykaty]

Have been reading what was dumped today. After listening to the Bill S. video, I am really sickened. I have tried not to beleive Caylee died of suffocation while being awake but it just gets more clear the more I know that she did. I know she could have been drugged but even at that I think there was a panic and consciousness of this poor little sweet innocent child, not being able to take in oxygen. There would be no reason for the duct tape other than to make sure she couldn't breath. What a horrific way to leave this world. I can see a DP jury serving up this kind sentence of for Casey.

The defense in this case imo can only hope for LWOP, I don't think they stand a chance in he** of anything else. I'm waiting for the time when it finally sinks into Casey her beautiful is OVER!


as always jmo

[TunaMelt]

Hi Tuna, this is how I know Casey never intended to take the tape off -- as in, she wasn't trying to quiet a crying Caylee planning to remove the tape later -- she wouldn't have wrapped it around Caylee's hair, if she were planning on removing the tape. Imagine trying to get that tape out of a living child's hair.

It's heartbreaking to see those pieces of duct tape, but I am glad we are seeing the story. I do believe there will be justice for Caylee.

Yes! thank you crimeq...my husband and I were just now having a "discussion" about this tape, and whether she intended to put it over her mouth to keep her quiet and it just happened to cover or mouth AND nose, or -- My Opinion: she slapped it on there, covered her nose, and never intended for it to ONLY cover her mouth.

And now I have what you just said to tell him: that the length of the pieces and putting it into her hair means she never meant to take it off.

Thanks!
I need all the ammo I can get to bring this husband of mine around to seeing the truth once and for all!

:sneaky:

:w00t:

[Pam1569]

Legal analyst Bill Sheaffer from WFTV is saying she most likely died of suffocation due to several pieces of duct tape being put over her mouth.

http://www.wftv.com/video/21253211/index.html

Hi Betty, TYVM. Yay for Kathi. Finally on this tape she states that the defense has had these docs since March about the duct tape. So I guess the defense will not be able to spin us anymore on BS. The defense is right there is nothing that Baden can argue about the forenseic, because it all leads back to Ms. Anthony. Baez can still do umm, umm, umm. Lyon can take over at the penalty phase and Todd better not think that he can bring an accident theory up now, because imo time has flown. jmo as always

[desmom]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252744/detail.html

Now what is this. This heart on page 31. What's it stuck to. When they have this why is a big deal being made out of the adhesive outline missing on the tape.

Under the photo, the item is identified as the back of Q100. Page 30 is the front of Q100.

Q100 is identified as a "piece of cardboard". Q101.1 is identified as "sticker from Q100". Both are listed under "Items from the Scene" - page 1069 (handwritten 10091) http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

The heart you linked may or may not have anything to do with Caylee's death. jmo

[neid_77]

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! New entry.

10/9/2009 A INFRACTION HEARING SET FOR 12/04/2009 11:00 AM

can someone here please tell me what kind of hearing this is?

[Neffy]

I believe that is the neighbour of Cindy and George Anthony here, Tuna!!
They have lent Casey the shovel and this is the answer of our questions why the shovel was rusty and still had a "sticker" on it.

JMO

IMHO, someone is busting our chops.

[TunaMelt]

Have been reading what was dumped today. After listening to the Bill S. video, I am really sickened. I have tried not to beleive Caylee died of suffocation while being awake but it just gets more clear the more I know that she did. I know she could have been drugged but even at that I think there was a panic and consciousness of this poor little sweet innocent child, not being able to take in oxygen. There would be no reason for the duct tape other than to make sure she couldn't breath. What a horrific way to leave this world. I can see a DP jury serving up this kind sentence of for Casey.

The defense in this case imo can only hope for LWOP, I don't think they stand a chance in he** of anything else. I'm waiting for the time when it finally sinks into Casey her beautiful is OVER!


as always jmo

I can't think of any case that isn't any more death penalty qualified than this one.

You know?

The cruelty is beyond belief.

(... from Bob Schaefer):
"That person who placed the duck tape over her mouth did it for one reason: 'to make sure that child could not breathe through either the mouth or the nose...'

[TunaMelt]

IMHO, someone is busting our chops.

Yup.

......

[KatieLady]

IMHO, someone is busting our chops.

Maybe but maybe not. We have had many players from other cases post with us over the years....not out of the realm of possibility IMO

[onlykaty]

Yes! thank you crimeq...my husband and I were just now having a "discussion" about this tape, and whether she intended to put it over her mouth to keep her quiet and it just happened to cover or mouth AND nose, or -- My Opinion: she slapped it on there, covered her nose, and never intended for it to ONLY cover her mouth.

And now I have what you just said to tell him: that the length of the pieces and putting it into her hair means she never meant to take it off.

Thanks!
I need all the ammo I can get to bring this husband of mine around to seeing the truth once and for all!

:sneaky:

:w00t:


At one time I thought she might have done it to just keep Caylee quiet. Not anymore, she intentionally killed her own child, throwed her in a garbage bag, dumped her and thought she would eventually get by with it. Casey thought everyone would buy into her lies, afterall she has lived by them most of her life. I now know why the prosecution put the DP on, have always suspected this was the reason.

[desmom]

Yes! thank you crimeq...my husband and I were just now having a "discussion" about this tape, and whether she intended to put it over her mouth to keep her quiet and it just happened to cover or mouth AND nose, or -- My Opinion: she slapped it on there, covered her nose, and never intended for it to ONLY cover her mouth.

And now I have what you just said to tell him: that the length of the pieces and putting it into her hair means she never meant to take it off.

Thanks!
I need all the ammo I can get to bring this husband of mine around to seeing the truth once and for all!

:sneaky:

:w00t:

I am beginning to lean toward this was not the first time Caylee had tape on her mouth. Soon to be 3 year olds are pretty smart. If Caylee had figured out how to get the tape off, that may explain why there were 3 pieces of tape of varying lengths. jmo

[Neffy]

Maybe but maybe not. We have had many players from other cases post with us over the years....not out of the realm of possibility IMO

Aren't the Burners on the witness list hmmmmmmm. I'll stick with my busting of the chops theory.

[onlykaty]

I can't think of any case that isn't any more death penalty qualified than this one.

You know?

The cruelty is beyond belief.

(... from Bob Schaefer):
"That person who placed the duck tape over her mouth did it for one reason: 'to make sure that child could not breathe through either the mouth or the nose...'

Yep, I want Casey's last 15 mins. of fame with her knowing she is going to going to die and nothing will stop it. I want her to know the panic and the reality that she is going to her death. AL's really has her work cut out. I hope she fails.

[no1what]

Pg 502 Quote

the following specimens were examined in the Trace Evidence Unit for hairs and fibers

Q46 Shovel.....

Q46.1 Label from th blade of Q46

Q46.2 Hair from Q46 shovel (from the sticky label)

I can't find the test result on this hair

page 1045 mention q46 again but not sure if its the same since it's not q46.2

[KatieLady]

Pg 502 Quote

the following specimens were examined in the Trace Evidence Unit for hairs and fibers

Q46 Shovel.....

Q46.1 Label from th blade of Q46

Q46.2 Hair from Q46 shovel (from the sticky label)

I can't find the test result on this hair

I didn't find any results no1...only the ones that we have seen before on the hair that showed signs of decomp. But I must admit I am bleary eyed right now and maybe missed it :blink:

[TunaMelt]

I am beginning to lean toward this was not the first time Caylee had tape on her mouth. Soon to be 3 year olds are pretty smart. If Caylee had figured out how to get the tape off, that may explain why there were 3 pieces of tape of varying lengths. jmo

I'm depressed again.
I shouldn't have looked at all those pictures.

I can read words and I'm okay with it, pretty much, but pictures are a whole nother story.

Poor little kid.
:crying:

[no1what]

I didn't find any results no1...only the ones that we have seen before on the hair that showed signs of decomp. But I must admit I am bleary eyed right now and maybe missed it :blink:

page 1045 mentions it again (10067).

[Sun]

Pg 502 Quote

the following specimens were examined in the Trace Evidence Unit for hairs and fibers

Q46 Shovel.....

Q46.1 Label from th blade of Q46

Q46.2 Hair from Q46 shovel (from the sticky label)

I can't find the test result on this hair

page 1045 mention q46 again but not sure if its the same since it's not q46.2

It's there, I saw it. Wish I could remember the details, but only recall that it wasn't a match to Caylee or Casey's hair. Very small piece I think.

[TunaMelt]

Yep, I want Casey's last 15 mins. of fame with her knowing she is going to going to die and nothing will stop it. I want her to know the panic and the reality that she is going to her death. AL's really has her work cut out. I hope she fails.

Here's how upset I'm feeling right now: I think KC should suffocate until dead.

It's slow, you feel like you're going to blow up, and you try to use whatever little air you have in your lungs a tiny bit at a time, but ultimately, you know you're going to run out and the realization hits "I'm not going to make it."

It's absolutely terrifying, and I think KC should feel that.

I don't like thinking this way, but gosh, that poor child.:crying:

The DP for KC. Anything other than that would be lenient and she doesn't qualify for leniency, no matter what Lyons cooks up. :thumbdown:

[Lavinya]

What is the "AD" in "AD SEG", Lavinia? Thanks.

Administration segregation.

[BettyC]

Again, please?
Your last sentence is more confusing than the whole of your post.

Or are we already playing "guess who I am" Friday afternoon games?

:mellow:

gmta TunaMelt

[Pam1569]

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! New entry.

10/9/2009 A INFRACTION HEARING SET FOR 12/04/2009 11:00 AM

Good evening Sun, Is this for Anthony's license?

[crimeq]

Hey Need2no - no worry. IIRC, in one of the doc dumps, OCSO CSI discovered some items Cindy bagged to give to LE were in a black plastic garbage bag.

If you want me to look, I will see if I can find you a link.

jmo

Also, we have the woman who took trash out of the Anthony's garbage can on trash day. I wonder if she kept that bag, or if LE may have confiscated it.

[desmom]

Pg 502 Quote

the following specimens were examined in the Trace Evidence Unit for hairs and fibers

Q46 Shovel.....

Q46.1 Label from th blade of Q46

Q46.2 Hair from Q46 shovel (from the sticky label)

I can't find the test result on this hair

page 1045 mention q46 again but not sure if its the same since it's not q46.2

Page 502 (handwritten 9523)

September 12, 2008
One small hair fragment (less than 1/4 inch long) exhibiting Caucasian characteristics was recovered from the label adhering to the lower portion of the handle of the Q46 shovel. This hair is too limited to be of value for meaningful microscopic comparison purposes. This hair has been designated as specimen Q46.2 and submitted for mitochondrial DNA analysis.

[no1what]

It's there, I saw it. Wish I could remember the details, but only recall that it wasn't a match to Caylee or Casey's hair. Very small piece I think.

I think you might be referring to page 1039

Q58 Debris (OCSO Item h-60074 Q-46) which is not the same piece of evidence.

I hate how they use the same evidence #'s from the OCSO and FBI lab in this case. Doesn't make sense unless you're trying to confuse.

[Sun]

Did we know that Casey's hair was black?

Why I ask, is because of how Cindy described ZFG as having black hair, in Morgan's depo. George said brown. Cindy said black. hmmmm?

[no1what]

Page 502 (handwritten 9523)

September 12, 2008
One small hair fragment (less than 1/4 inch long) exhibiting Caucasian characteristics was recovered from the label adhering to the lower portion of the handle of the Q46 shovel. This hair is too limited to be of value for meaningful microscopic comparison purposes. This hair has been designated as specimen Q46.2 and submitted for mitochondrial DNA analysis.

Yes, I read that but then on page 1045 they mention the dna test results ago but they didn't post the results.

Seems like there is so much evidence collected and so little conclusive match's.

[BettyC]

Well currently it looked black to me. We've seen photos of her with reddish hair too (curly).

What are the odds of the Anthonys having that exact Laundry Bag in their house?

They know, they know, they know !!!!

eta: Sorry this is in response to Sun's post asking if we knew Casey's hair was black.

[crimeq]

She may not have known the identity but I don't believe that Casey did not know it wasn't Jesse. This smacks of her the same attitude as she had with the detectives at Universal, keeping up her lie even after she was dragged all the way over there, until she was forced to admit she had no job.

I believe she agreed to that DNA test, hoping someone would step in and call it off at the last minute. Or that she could claim total ignorance of the results, swearing that she believed Jesse was the father.

Oh, I agree with you, Casey AND Cindy were willing to pass off the baby to Jesse and they both knew Jesse wasn't the father. But to me this indicated the Cindy really was embarrassed by her young pregnant daughter and wanted a daddy to make that embarrassment go away.

IMO, they do NOT know the identity of the father, but they were more than willing to cast the responsibility onto Jesse.

[Sun]

Yes, I read that but then on page 1045 they mention the dna test results ago but they didn't post the results.

Seems like there is so much evidence collected and so little conclusive match's.

mitochondrial DNA analysis isn't going to provide a meaningful result, if you don't have anything to compare it to. I do believe that I saw that it was compared to Caylee and Casey and it was not a match.

....what is quite telling, is that none of the testing results indicate that anyone else committed this crime. There is nothing there for the defense to use that will create reasonable doubt that Casey was the perp.

[Chardonnay]

I just want to say thanks to everybody who is reporting what's in the doc dumps. I can't download the file. Please keep up the good work. I don't feel so left out now. Also, I wonder what action is going on on Hope Spring Dr. I wonder if Really3997 will drive by this weekend and give us a report?

[Sun]

Well currently it looked black to me. We've seen photos of her with reddish hair too (curly).

What are the odds of the Anthonys having that exact Laundry Bag in their house?

They know, they know, they know !!!!

eta: Sorry this is in response to Sun's post asking if we knew Casey's hair was black.

I've always thought that her hair looked to be dark brown, maybe with a hint of reddish tinting. I learned something new to me today!

[BettyC]

Oh, I agree with you, Casey AND Cindy were willing to pass off the baby to Jesse and they both knew Jesse wasn't the father. But to me this indicated the Cindy really was embarrassed by her young pregnant daughter and wanted a daddy to make that embarrassment go away.

IMO, they do NOT know the identity of the father, but they were more than willing to cast the responsibility onto Jesse.

Then they really must have also thought Jesse was stupid.

Caylee was born on August 9, 2005 which meant conception was either in Nov or Dec. of 2004

Jesse didn't even know Casey then.

They met in January of 2005.

http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_J_Grund072308.htm

[BettyC]

I've always thought that her hair looked to be dark brown, maybe with a hint of reddish tinting. I learned something knew to me today!

Well she apparently colors it. Once you put red in, I swear it never goes away. (Speaking from experience.)

[5swab5]

Page 502 (handwritten 9523)

September 12, 2008
One small hair fragment (less than 1/4 inch long) exhibiting Caucasian characteristics was recovered from the label adhering to the lower portion of the handle of the Q46 shovel. This hair is too limited to be of value for meaningful microscopic comparison purposes. This hair has been designated as specimen Q46.2 and submitted for mitochondrial DNA analysis.

Emphasis mine^^^^^^^^^^

I just LOVE Science, don't you?

Caylee will have her day in Court, and it looks like she will be well represented.:smile:

Sweet Angel :rose:

[Lavinya]

I just want to say thanks to everybody who is reporting what's in the doc dumps. I can't download the file. Please keep up the good work. I don't feel so left out now. Also, I wonder what action is going on on Hope Spring Dr. I wonder if Really3997 will drive by this weekend and give us a report?

Chard, really is no longer with us. She has no where to post that info.:thumbdown:

[BettyC]

Sun this is the pic I remember of Casey with reddish hair.

http://i34.tinypic.com/ny7kb6.jpg

[onlykaty]

Emphasis mine^^^^^^^^^^

I just LOVE Science, don't you?

Caylee will have her day in Court, and it looks like she will be well represented.:smile:

Sweet Angel :rose:

Love it! This investigative team left no stones unturned.

[Sun]

Sun this is the pic I remember of Casey with reddish hair.

http://i34.tinypic.com/ny7kb6.jpg

That sure is reddish! and, when I look at one of the closeups of her tattoo, the tip ends of the lock of hair are reddish.

[farrahrani]

Did we know that Casey's hair was black?

Why I ask, is because of how Cindy described ZFG as having black hair, in Morgan's depo. George said brown. Cindy said black. hmmmm?


I don't doubt for a minute Cindy said black, because at that time, Casey's hair looked brown to me. :thumbdown:

[Lucy]

I don't doubt for a minute Cindy said black, because at that time, Casey's hair looked brown to me. :thumbdown:

By all the different pictures of Casey looks like she changed her hair color and stlye as often as she changed boyfriends. :shrug:

[summer4meplz]

Chard, really is no longer with us. She has no where to post that info.:thumbdown:

:scared::sad:

[girlspell]

Yes, I read that but then on page 1045 they mention the dna test results ago but they didn't post the results.

Seems like there is so much evidence collected and so little conclusive match's.

I'm surprised how little direct evidence has been found, let alone collected. It's almost like Casey was wearing plastic wrap while killing her own daughter. No wonder the defense is having a field day over this. The only thing that will send Casey to jail is the 31 days. Nothing else. Casey dug herself in trouble with that.

[BettyC]

By all the different pictures of Casey looks like she changed her hair color and stlye as often as she changed boyfriends. :shrug:

When they took hair samples from Casey, they listed them as reddish brown.

Page 919 of todays release.

Guess with her, it depends on the day what color her hair is. Her jail badge says "black" for hair color.

http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/21249090/detail.html

[Scampi]

I'm surprised how little direct evidence has been found, let alone collected. It's almost like Casey was wearing plastic wrap while killing her own daughter. No wonder the defense is having a field day over this. The only thing that will send Casey to jail is the 31 days. Nothing else. Casey dug herself in trouble with that.

Seriously? You don't think the fact that Caylee's remains were found in a Winnie the Pooh blanket that may have come from the anthony home incriminating.

Or the use of black plastic bags that may have come from the anthony home?

Or laundry bag that may have come from the anthony home?

Or the pull ups that may match those in the anthony home?

Or the tape on Caylee's mouth that is the same type of that found in the anthony home?

[Lucy]

I'm surprised how little direct evidence has been found, let alone collected. It's almost like Casey was wearing plastic wrap while killing her own daughter. No wonder the defense is having a field day over this. The only thing that will send Casey to jail is the 31 days. Nothing else. Casey dug herself in trouble with that.

Most convictions are from circumstantial cases. IMO there's a whole lot of that, plus direct evidence, in car.
maggots, death band on hair, grave wax, coffin flys, the stain where it looks like small body in fetal position.
crime scene,
winnie the pooh blanket, laundry hamper, the clothes, toys, tape, and those are just a few. The tape is a biggie thou.. even though they are saying fibers not a match but sticky stuff is, the forensics can explain that, by the elements having to do with breaking the fibers down, IMO its just like the elements breaking fibers down in clothing..
I compare it to bath towels and wash cloths that have been washed many times and they start wearing thin in some areas the fibers are breaking down ........jmho.

[myownopera]

I haven't been around for a while, so I am waaay behind -- the thing that really pulls at my heart strings, is "that stain that resembles a child in the fetal position" -- that almost killed me when I heard that. It is, however, what I thought the entire time - that Casey put that child in the trunk so she could party -- how that precious child died, no one knows - I do wish there was some way I could find that out -- but then, that would just make me more sad --- the stain really gets me!:crying::crying:


MOO

[seeing_eye]

I'm surprised how little direct evidence has been found, let alone collected. It's almost like Casey was wearing plastic wrap while killing her own daughter. No wonder the defense is having a field day over this. The only thing that will send Casey to jail is the 31 days. Nothing else. Casey dug herself in trouble with that.

The defense is having a field day over this??!! Not in this world, they aren't. They're going on a media blitz frantically trying to squirm their way out of this. IMO, Casey didn't have to wear plastic wrap to keep from leaving little hints of herself around and at the scene. I'm sure she left plenty, but was lucky enough that the little hints of herself were deteriorated by the elements and time. IMO, they don't need direct evidence to convict Casey because they have tons of circumstantial evidence which is many times better than direct evidence. Yes, the 31 days will help send her to prison, but there's plenty more evidence to go with that.

[desmom]

I'm surprised how little direct evidence has been found, let alone collected. It's almost like Casey was wearing plastic wrap while killing her own daughter. No wonder the defense is having a field day over this. The only thing that will send Casey to jail is the 31 days. Nothing else. Casey dug herself in trouble with that.

:confused:

[Lucy]

I'm surprised how little direct evidence has been found, let alone collected. It's almost like Casey was wearing plastic wrap while killing her own daughter. No wonder the defense is having a field day over this. The only thing that will send Casey to jail is the 31 days. Nothing else. Casey dug herself in trouble with that.

No casey dug herself in when she murdered her daughter then set out to party hardy..She has dug herself in a deep deep whole, That she's not climbing out of.. And her defense team cant even put her out of it with a crane.

[Dtviewer3]

Most convictions are from circumstantial cases. IMO there's a whole lot of that, plus direct evidence, in car.
maggots, death band on hair, grave wax, coffin flys, the stain where it looks like small body in fetal position.
crime scene,
winnie the pooh blanket, laundry hamper, the clothes, toys, tape, and those are just a few. The tape is a biggie thou.. even though they are saying fibers not a match but sticky stuff is, the forensics can explain that, by the elements having to do with breaking the fibers down, IMO its just like the elements breaking fibers down in clothing..
I compare it to bath towels and wash cloths that have been washed many times and they start wearing thin in some areas the fibers are breaking down ........jmho.

Everything they have collected, including ALL the stuff from the car (maggots, death band hair, stain, etc etc) is considered circumstantial evidence.

The only Direct evidence would be if Casey confesses, or a video tape or an eyewitness.

All the other stuff is circumstantial.
And as with almost every murder case, all the evidence in this case will be circumstantial only. (Unless casey confesses)

[denjet]

Wow, it's so sad and upsetting to see in print what we heard or speculated about for months ... Infuriating that tot mom sits in jail trying to twist the system with absolutely no remorse for what's she's done and having no guilt or conscience about scheming and blaming everyone else for her horrific crime ...
I had to light a candle Light one for Caylee (http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=cayle)
and say a prayer ...

As infuriating as it will be to see the Sceam Team in court next Friday fighting for the OC, it will be rewarding to see this team lose big time (which IMO is inevitible) and maybe even see them get a smack down from Strickland if we're lucky ... KC has to come to court knowing that everyone has seen her lovely new prison pics all over the news so there's some satisfaction there, and we can look forward to 48 Hours the following night that seems to be turning into a show CA will regret ever being interviewed for and then Dianne Fannings book in a few weeks ...

Even though it's not happening fast enough ... this horrible excuse for a person, let alone a mother, will get what's coming to her ... it will happen ...

It WILL happen, Caylee !! :wub:

[msgatorslayer]

Pg 866 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

They did DNA on the flat iron and blow up bed because G&C said they used to be at the Nanny's house. Absence of anybody else's DNA would show there was no Nanny :biggrin:

I'm starting off where I left off earlier.

If there are no white dog hairs on the blow up bed, then there must not be a dog, therefore, no zanny.

Using Cindy's dog/zanny theory.:rolleyes:

[KittyMom]

What exactly is a "ped"?

[msgatorslayer]

What exactly is a "ped"?

:confused: IDK

Ped egg
Pedi/Mani
Ped-ophile

[Neffy]

I'm starting off where I left off earlier.

If there are no white dog hairs on the blow up bed, then there must not be a dog, therefore, no zanny.

Using Cindy's dog/zanny theory.:rolleyes:

:laugh:

Hey I just remember! Any maggot evidence? I couldn't make it thru the docs

[Spots]

What exactly is a "ped"?

In what context, KM?

[Spots]

:laugh:

Hey I just remember! Any maggot evidence? I couldn't make it thru the docs

Not that I heard or saw. Bummer. :thumbdown:

[msgatorslayer]

:laugh:

Hey I just remember! Any maggot evidence? I couldn't make it thru the docs

:angry: No!

Back to waiting. Hopefully, next week. Like some BOMBSHELL news prior to Friday's hearing. That'll work!!!

[KittyMom]

In what context, KM?

In the docs when they talk about the trunk debris, they talk about peds. I just wondered what that is? Lab word for dirt? :confused:

[Spots]

In the docs when they talk about the trunk debris, they talk about peds. I just wondered what that is? Lab word for dirt? :confused:

I'd have to see the reference. Do you have a page number? [No guarantees then, either! But I'll try. :D]

[KittyMom]

I think pros should have a lifesized blow up of the photo of Caylee wearing the shorts that were found with her remains. If not for Casey, for Cindy and George.

[Pomme]

I'm surprised how little direct evidence has been found, let alone collected. It's almost like Casey was wearing plastic wrap while killing her own daughter. No wonder the defense is having a field day over this. The only thing that will send Casey to jail is the 31 days. Nothing else. Casey dug herself in trouble with that.

Is this the first trial you've ever followed? Otherwise I can't follow your logic - most cases are circumstantial. Maybe I'm misunderstanding you? :confused:

[KittyMom]

I wonder why LE thinks that Caylee was dressed in those clothes on purpose? Could they have a receipt with a specific date on it? Did George's testimony in GJ mention something about that particular outfit?

I noticed that the report says that the words "packages" and "in" were found "at the crime scene". I saw a photo of the word "big" as well. Where was it found? :confused:

[Spots]

KM- See if any of these fit:
Acronym Definition
PED Pedestrian
PED Pediatrics
PED Physical Education
PED Pediatrician
PED Pedestal
PED Pressure Equipment Directive (EU)
PED PIN Entry Device
PED Personal Electronic Device
PED Performance Enhancing Drug
PED Price Elasticity of Demand (economics)
PED Project Engineering and Design
PED Pôle Européen de Développement (French)
PED Project Entropia Dollar (gaming, MMORPG)
PED Parole Eligibility Date (UK criminal system)
PED Pigment Epithelial Detachment (age-related macular degeneration)
PED Porcine Epidemic Diarrhea
PED Potential Energy Distribution
PED Parti de l'Environnement et du Développement (French: Environment and Development Party, Morocco)
PED Period End Date
PED Program Evaluation Division (Ofice of Policy, Planning and Evaluation)
PED Preliminary Engineering Design
PED Production Engineering Division
PED Precision Engineering Division
PED Pre-Construction Engineering & Design (USACE)
PED Paroxysmal Exercise-Induced Dystonia
PED Phase Error Detector
PED Petroleum Exploration and Development (scientific journal)
PED Pyroelectric Detector
PED Payload Element Developer (NASA)
PED Processing, Exploitation & Dissemination
PED Protective Equipment Decontamination
PED Primary Electrical Disease
PED Personal Entry Device
PED Platform Equipment Deck (NASA)
PED Project Engineering Documentation
PED Program Element Description
PED Pre-Existing Damages
PED Platform Edge Door (London underground)
PED Prototype Engine Demonstration
PED Program Elements Document
PED Program Entry Device
PED Petition Expiration Date
PED Procurement Early Development
PED Programmable Encryption Device(s)
PED TV Term Describing Pedestal Camera Mount

ped acronyms (http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/pediatrics)

[KittyMom]

I looked through the photos again and I'm surprised at how intact the laundry bag and garbage bags were. Even the blanket. I sort of thought that with all the water there would be more decomp and breakdown of the the bags. Maybe the blanket and laundry bags more so than the plastic bags.

[Chardonnay]

I still can't believe how cold and dark Casey's eyes are during her tattoo pic. Pure evil.

[KittyMom]

I'd have to see the reference. Do you have a page number? [No guarantees then, either! But I'll try. :D]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21252257/detail.html

page 96 of 1405

[msgatorslayer]

I wonder why LE thinks that Caylee was dressed in those clothes on purpose? Could they have a receipt with a specific date on it? Did George's testimony in GJ mention something about that particular outfit?

I noticed that the report says that the words "packages" and "in" were found "at the crime scene". I saw a photo of the word "big" as well. Where was it found? :confused:

I haven't read through the docs yet, Kitty. Only looked at the pics. This case is going to make me pic up a pair of reading glasses, lol.

Why the state says those clothes were chosen is beyond me. There must be something that hasn't been revealed yet that makes them think that.

A CC receipt would do just that. Especially if Casey bought that particular shirt days after Caylee was never seen by anyone again.