10/8, 10/9

[denjet]

Mornin' folks!
Oh boy, looks like we'll see the news docs today!! yay!
Here's a slideshow of KC and her tatt:
(I didn't see the whole slideshow posted yet, so here it is)
Photos of KC's Tattoo (http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/21249090/detail.html)

whew ... they are NOT very flattering!!

[Sun]

Absolutely. If I am on that jury, I'm thinking how the devil could this woman get "beautiful life" engraved on her body WHEN HER CHILD IS MISSING!!!!

Talk about things that don't compute. :cuss:

That tattoo is far bigger than I ever imagined. I sure hope that a Jury gets to see these photos.

http://wdbo.com/slideshow/thumbs/casey-anthonys-tattoos

[KatieLady]

??? I did read this what, last week or something but I guess I had no idea this was MURT. IS it Murt? Where is this coming from? Who is the other person? Can anyone attest that this is "really" Murt and not someone pretending to be him?

This is just bizarre.... wow.

Someone engaged Murt in this IM and then sent it to Cindy who sent it to DC IIRC. When I read it I got the feeling that Murt got fed up with this person and was just writing what they wanted to hear.....being sarcastic.

I am not a big Murt fan but I don't believe anything he wrote in that IM as disgusting as it was.

IMO

[MGM111]

I just wonder what she was thinking or feeling (if that's even possible) while she was standing there getting that pic taken knowing that's one of the things they are going to bring up.


She is probably trying as hard as she can right now to figure out how she can tie in this tattoo with the script - zanny - kidnapping story.

best of luck my dear...:thumbdown:

[Spots]

Mornin' folks!
Oh boy, looks like we'll see the news docs today!! yay!
Here's a slideshow of KC and her tatt:
(I didn't see the whole slideshow posted yet, so here it is)
Photos of KC's Tattoo (http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/21249090/detail.html)

whew ... they are NOT very flattering!!

I don't see her smiling, either.

[Ellie]

Someone engaged Murt in this IM and then sent it to Cindy who sent it to DC IIRC. When I read it I got the feeling that Murt got fed up with this person and was just writing what they wanted to hear.....being sarcastic.

I am not a big Murt fan but I don't believe anything he wrote in that IM as disgusting as it was.

IMO

Thanks for your thoughts, Katie. It's just disturbing... I can't imagine typing or even thinking the things written in here, whether it's BS or not. Know what I mean?

[Jen]

Ok, I know this really isn't the issue but WTF is up with her skin?!?!? Maybe the jail soap... that sure ain't no Bella Complexion

[Scampi]

Whoa, KC has put on the weight, imo. All those moles look awful too.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-100909,0,132458.story

I wonder if george and cynthia will assign KC a number. Sure isn't a 10, imo.

[msgatorslayer]

??? I did read this what, last week or something but I guess I had no idea this was MURT. IS it Murt? Where is this coming from? Who is the other person? Can anyone attest that this is "really" Murt and not someone pretending to be him?

This is just bizarre.... wow.

Don't know for sure but I believe it is. From reading the comments on that blog it seems that other posters were following him in his chat room.

I don't believe anything Murt says. And this is just another one of his games he likes playing.

What I'm curious about is why the Anthony's thought any of this was important, lmao. I mean, Casey said she dropped Caylee off with a Zanny. Not a middle age man like Murt.:tongueside:

[Sun]

I don't see her smiling, either.

That was exactly what I noticed. And, the fact that she was fully shackled. Guess that she really is on a higher level of security status.

[denjet]

Whoa, KC has put on the weight, imo. All those moles look awful too.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-100909,0,132458.story

I wonder if george and cynthia will assign KC a number. Sure isn't a 10, imo.
Hi Scamp! look at the whole slideshow: Full set of Tattoo photos (http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/21249090/detail.html)

[msgatorslayer]

Whoa, KC has put on the weight, imo. All those moles look awful too.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-100909,0,132458.story

I wonder if george and cynthia will assign KC a number. Sure isn't a 10, imo.

Jail life isn't very flattering. Her back looks horrible.

No more Target bras and lingerie for her. It's jail issued sports bras from now on.

[KatieLady]

Thanks for your thoughts, Katie. It's just disturbing... I can't imagine typing or even thinking the things written in here, whether it's BS or not. Know what I mean?

Oh I know exactly what you mean Ellie. But Murt is an odd duck and off his rocker most of the time IMO LOL

[Scampi]

If this was part of the script...wouldn't it be in Spanish???...not Italian...LOL

What a great point Armadillo. It's Italian cuz her new love, Anthony Lazzaro is Italian, imo.

[cutiepatootie61]

Jail life isn't very flattering. Her back looks horrible.

No more Target bras and lingerie for her. It's jail issued sports bras from now on.

Her muffin top tells me she's eaten one too many yankee doodles too!

[Barbara fl.]

??? I did read this what, last week or something but I guess I had no idea this was MURT. IS it Murt? Where is this coming from? Who is the other person? Can anyone attest that this is "really" Murt and not someone pretending to be him?

This is just bizarre.... wow.


I just read it myself and it is quite sickening....I remember Murt being on the board, but don't know if this is him....I also remember back then that sme posters were against him....

Is this guy for real? Why isn't he in jail?

[Ellie]

Hi Scamp! look at the whole slideshow: Full set of Tattoo photos (http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/21249090/detail.html)

Pictures of the shovel and the duct tape are there now too in the same link.

Funny how the defense says the fibers don't match the fibers of the duct tape found at the Anthony's. The fibers are all but gone on this duct tape. Just want to smack that Baez upside the head and say "nice try though, bozo".

Seeing the duct tape gave me a lump in my throat. :sad:

[jusdafacts]

Gads, they've updated the photos to include the 3 pieces of duct tape found on Caylee :sad:

http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/21249090/detail.html

[Barbara fl.]

Her muffin top tells me she's eaten one too many yankee doodles too!


Wait....you aint seen nothin yet.....GP will finish her off.....:biggrin:

[MGM111]

If this was part of the script...wouldn't it be in Spanish???...not Italian...LOL

Whoops...she will have to go to plan H or I..what is it up to now?? :rolleyes:

[Scampi]

Hi Scamp! look at the whole slideshow: Full set of Tattoo photos (http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/21249090/detail.html)

Thank you so much Den, this series also includes pics of the duct tape.

[msgatorslayer]

Pictures of the shovel and the duct tape are there now too in the same link.

Funny how the defense says the fibers don't match the fibers of the duct tape found at the Anthony's. The fibers are all but gone on this duct tape. Just want to smack that Baez upside the head and say "nice try though, bozo".

Seeing the duct tape gave me a lump in my throat. :sad:

:crying: There are chew marks on the tape. No doubt from critters. Yeah, gives me a lump in my throat and makes my hair stand up.

The shovel surprises me. For as old as it looks from marks, it still has it's labels on.

[denjet]

Pictures of the shovel and the duct tape are there now too in the same link.

Funny how the defense says the fibers don't match the fibers of the duct tape found at the Anthony's. The fibers are all but gone on this duct tape. Just want to smack that Baez upside the head and say "nice try though, bozo".

Seeing the duct tape gave me a lump in my throat. :sad:
Me too, Ell ... so sad
I'm amazed the duct tape is in such good shape ... better than the defense was trying to say ...:sad:

[KatieLady]

:crying: There are chew marks on the tape. No doubt from critters. Yeah, gives me a lump in my throat and makes my hair stand up.

The shovel surprises me. For as old as it looks from marks, it still has it's labels on.

Did we ever figure out if there was a shovel in the trunk of her car? If so...is this it?

[cassidy]

:crying: There are chew marks on the tape. No doubt from critters. Yeah, gives me a lump in my throat and makes my hair stand up.

The shovel surprises me. For as old as it looks from marks, it still has it's labels on.


I noticed that too. Strange

[Sun]

Pictures of the shovel and the duct tape are there now too in the same link.

Funny how the defense says the fibers don't match the fibers of the duct tape found at the Anthony's. The fibers are all but gone on this duct tape. Just want to smack that Baez upside the head and say "nice try though, bozo".

Seeing the duct tape gave me a lump in my throat. :sad:

Oh my. Very, very clear and closeup pics of the duct tape.

[cassidy]

Wow...that duct tape...held up pretty well I'd say...think there's fingerprints there...hummmmm?????

We can hope!

[msgatorslayer]

Did we ever figure out if there was a shovel in the trunk of her car? If so...is this it?

Not that I'm aware of.

No matter who's shovel it is, it's odd, IMO, to not pull off the label. Especially the one on the part that digs the dirt.

[Lavinya]

That tattoo is far bigger than I ever imagined. I sure hope that a Jury gets to see these photos.

http://wdbo.com/slideshow/thumbs/casey-anthonys-tattoos

What the HECK is that rash on her back? :scared: She sure has gained weight... Back fat city.

[KatieLady]

As far as I know there was no shovel in the car...This is/was Brian Burners shovel...JMO

Thanks to you and msgator! I guess I am confused (as usual lol) I thought there was something in the last doc dump about a shovel in her car.

So sorry if I confused you guys!

[sammy62]

sometimes its impossible to get labels off something. My husband wouldn't bother trying. He'd let it wear off.

[no1what]

I thought it was announced there would be a doc dump today. Do you think there will be one?

[trich]

:mad: Just what every innocent Mother of Year does when her Daughter is missing.



Wonder if that was part of the script....
Zanny told her she had to get a tattoo that says
the good life.....:rolleyes:

[msgatorslayer]

Thanks to you and msgator! I guess I am confused (as usual lol) I thought there was something in the last doc dump about a shovel in her car.

So sorry if I confused you guys!

You are correct about something in a recent doc talking about a shovel in the car. I just don't remember which doc. Or if it was an error. As the only shovel that had ever been mentioned in the past was the neighbors.

[Sun]

sometimes its impossible to get labels off something. My husband wouldn't bother trying. He'd let it wear off.

I'm going to guess that Brian Burner wasn't one to have much use for a shovel. Labels usually wear off in time, with use. Maybe Florida sand isn't as quick to wear away labels as good ole Indiana dirt and hard clay. The fact that a rust "pattern" is evident on the shovel, tells me that it had been used very little.

[Ellie]

Thanks to you and msgator! I guess I am confused (as usual lol) I thought there was something in the last doc dump about a shovel in her car.

So sorry if I confused you guys!

You're not the only one who is confused, Katie! I read the same thing and wondered what the deal was too... but I think Scampi set me straight and said the wording of the doc was confusing and we didn't hear any specifics about a shovel in the car and that there probably wasn't one.

But... we could still find out differently! I would like to know what this shovel in the pictures is all about. (Also, I would never bother myself (or risk a broken nail) to remove a label from a shovel, but that's just me. :smile:)

[Bala]

sometimes its impossible to get labels off something. My husband wouldn't bother trying. He'd let it wear off.
Trick to removing stickers is a blow dryer.

[KatieLady]

You are correct about something in a recent doc talking about a shovel in the car. I just don't remember which doc. Or if it was an error. As the only shovel that had ever been mentioned in the past was the neighbors.

Oh good...I am not crazy after all LOL

Thanks!

[Jen]

Looking at pic 9 of 24 on this link is that Caylee's hair on that duct tape?

http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/21249090/detail.html

[A.M.]

What the HECK is that rash on her back? :scared: She sure has gained weight... Back fat city.

Who CARES what her physical body looks like.

The pictures today are the some of the most disturbing and heartbreaking pictures I've seen on this case to date.

Precious Caylee...may your new found freedom, somehow, make up for the last horrifying moments of your life.

Justice is being sought in your name, sweet baby girl.

[KatieLady]

You're not the only one who is confused, Katie! I read the same thing and wondered what the deal was too... but I think Scampi set me straight and said the wording of the doc was confusing and we didn't hear any specifics about a shovel in the car and that there probably wasn't one.

But... we could still find out differently! I would like to know what this shovel in the pictures is all about. (Also, I would never bother myself (or risk a broken nail) to remove a label from a shovel, but that's just me. :smile:)

Thanks Ellie! I wouldn't either lol I would/have just ripped off the label and if it all didn't come off I would just leave it.

[Barbara fl.]

Not that I'm aware of.

No matter who's shovel it is, it's odd, IMO, to not pull off the label. Especially the one on the part that digs the dirt.


Wouldn't be something if the other part of that label was found with Caylee's remains....?

[Ellie]

Trick to removing stickers is a blow dryer.

Cooking oil works really well too.

[Bala]

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=128447&cat=14

John Morgan, the attorney representing Zenaida Gonzalez in a defamation suit against Casey Anthony, will be appearing on 48 Hours Mystery on October 17, 2009.
Morgan and Cindy on the same show. That should be very interesting to say the least.

[Barbara fl.]

Oh good...I am not crazy after all LOL

Thanks!


I think I read something about that too...but I had thought I read it wrong at the time...

[Lavinya]

Cooking oil works really well too.

WD 40 works, too.

[KatieLady]

Looking at pic 9 of 24 on this link is that Caylee's hair on that duct tape?

http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/21249090/detail.html

Hard to say....it could be the frayed edges like in pic 11???

[Scampi]

You're not the only one who is confused, Katie! I read the same thing and wondered what the deal was too... but I think Scampi set me straight and said the wording of the doc was confusing and we didn't hear any specifics about a shovel in the car and that there probably wasn't one.

But... we could still find out differently! I would like to know what this shovel in the pictures is all about. (Also, I would never bother myself (or risk a broken nail) to remove a label from a shovel, but that's just me. :smile:)


You're such a girl! :tonguewag:

Only one shovel, I'm sure of it.

[Bala]

Who CARES what her physical body looks like.

The pictures today are the some of the most disturbing and heartbreaking pictures I've seen on this case to date.

Precious Caylee...may your new found freedom, somehow, make up for the last horrifying moments of your life.

Justice is being sought in your name, sweet baby girl.
I agree 100%.

[desmom]

Anyone notice the Q#s on the evidence bags?

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249759/detail.html

Q64 - pics 2 and 4

Q63 - pics 5, 6, 8 and 9 (Pics 8 & 9 are the back view of Q63)

Q62 - 14 and 15

[msgatorslayer]

Wouldn't be something if the other part of that label was found with Caylee's remains....?

It sure would!!

[Barbara fl.]

Morgan and Cindy on the same show. That should be very interesting to say the least.

If Cindy gets wind of that she just may not show....I understand she was already paid, so it wont make a difference to her.....

[Ellie]

You're such a girl! :tonguewag:

Only one shovel, I'm sure of it.

LOL!!

That's what I thought, thanks for confirming!!!

[Scampi]

Who CARES what her physical body looks like.

The pictures today are the some of the most disturbing and heartbreaking pictures I've seen on this case to date.

Precious Caylee...may your new found freedom, somehow, make up for the last horrifying moments of your life.

Justice is being sought in your name, sweet baby girl.

I found the pictures of KC interesting because of the importance this family, george, cynthia and casey, all put on people's looks, as evidenced by their description of ZFG as a "10."

[WillowInFlight]

Thanks for your thoughts, Katie. It's just disturbing... I can't imagine typing or even thinking the things written in here, whether it's BS or not. Know what I mean?

I don't believe for a second that was the real Murt.

[Lavinya]

Who CARES what her physical body looks like.

The pictures today are the some of the most disturbing and heartbreaking pictures I've seen on this case to date.

Precious Caylee...may your new found freedom, somehow, make up for the last horrifying moments of your life.

Justice is being sought in your name, sweet baby girl.

Ummm, I do, because I'm interested in seeing how incarceration is affecting her. That interest in no way detracts from my interest and horror with what happened to Caylee at her mother's hand.

[BettyC]

I found the pictures of KC interesting because of the importance this family, george, cynthia and casey, all put on people's looks, as evidenced by their description of ZFG as a "10."

I do also. Her "badge" gives her weight as 105. I doubt that's accurate right now.

[desmom]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21248759/detail.html
Also among the evidence released on Friday are dozens of photos of Casey and her friends, many of which had previously been made public.

WFTV.com is going through all the evidence and will be posting much of it online.

My Fox Orlando has posted a bunch of pics titled:
Casey Anthony discovery photos released October 9, 2009
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/100909anhtonydiscoveryphotos/indexGallery.htm

[Spots]

If Cindy gets wind of that she just may not show....I understand she was already paid, so it wont make a difference to her.....

It was taped a long time ago. No question of whether she'll show.

[Jen]

Ummm, I do, because I'm interested in seeing how incarceration is affecting her. That interest in no way detracts from my interest and horror with what happened to Caylee at her mother's hand.



can I get an AMEN!

[Lavinya]

The duct tape clearly shows Henkel...and that duct tape on Caylee posters is a big plus for the State...JMO

No doubt in my mind it's a match, "Dillo! :thumbsup:

[msgatorslayer]

I don't believe for a second that was the real Murt.

But do the Anthony's think a pedo took Caylee? :laugh:

When I seen Murt listed on their 'list' of people not allowed at Caylee's memorial, I wondered how he managed to make that list.

[Bala]

If Cindy gets wind of that she just may not show....I understand she was already paid, so it wont make a difference to her.....
I assume from the trailer that Cindy already filmed her part. 48 hours isn't live and I think they taped weeks ahead.

[damienstoy]

But do the Anthony's think a pedo took Caylee? :laugh:

When I seen Murt listed on their 'list' of people not allowed at Caylee's memorial, I wondered how he managed to make that list.

I think that's from the time at Blanchard park when he was there with the van during the Padilla dive trip. They weren't very happy with him.

[WillowInFlight]

But do the Anthony's think a pedo took Caylee? :laugh:

When I seen Murt listed on their 'list' of people not allowed at Caylee's memorial, I wondered how he managed to make that list.

Probably because of the way he acted during the searches and all of his taping. I'll never forget the time we were all traveling with Murt and he was driving behind George. :laugh:

[Barbara fl.]

The duct tape clearly shows Henkel...and that duct tape on Caylee posters is a big plus for the State...JMO

Casey and this whole dream team can forget it...they don't stand a chance in He!!....They have to be realizing that they are waisting their time on this case.....The only publicity they are going to get is bad publicity......

And Casey is a gonna....

The pictures of the tape are so disturbing.....you can see where it was impossible to get prints off of.....but the make of the tape is a big hurdle for the defense.....

[denjet]

This is something I found interesting on BlinkOnCrime ... she's been pretty accurate about the facts in the case and the discovery released to date ... it makes me hold out hope that there were indeed prints on the adhesive part of the tape ....
Scroll down to Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Friction Ridges Duct Tape and Suds: Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Friction Ridges Duct Tape and Suds

Discovery Review Part II

Orlando, FL– In Part I, we reviewed the Latent Lift Myth.

Adding to the quagmire of why Linda Kenney Baden maintains there are no prints on the duct tape, one reviews Ms. Baden’s amended motion for discovery.

Ms. Baden requests the specific 18 latent lifts and subsequent file information from the FBI reports in “this matter”. However, those tests were performed from items removed from the Anthony home by Orange County Sheriffs Office, not the FBI, thus the “THERE ARE NO LATENT LIFTS IN THIS CASE”.

How does the defense attorney entrusted to interpret the forensic evidence in a death penalty case not know with what agency that information is held? It was released months ago.
Within the discovery, their is an email indicating a few areas of the tape were swabbed in the final testing process (CU) with methanol. This is performed on the non-adhesive side of the tape. Does it make sense if your sole intent was to extract DNA from this tape that you would be reduced to swabbing only the side of the tape NOT affixed to Caylee’s face?

It only makes sense if your goal is to preserve the integrity of what appears on the adhesive side, and exclude the possibility of DNA on areas that will not compromise the sample in that regard.

[neid_77]

The duct tape clearly shows Henkel...and that duct tape on Caylee posters is a big plus for the State...JMO

it my mind we are really dealing with one little sick puppy here!! she does look a whole lot of yucky in those pictures!!

was that hair on the duct tape?:crying:

[Lavinya]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21248759/detail.html
Also among the evidence released on Friday are dozens of photos of Casey and her friends, many of which had previously been made public.

WFTV.com is going through all the evidence and will be posting much of it online.

My Fox Orlando has posted a bunch of pics titled:
Casey Anthony discovery photos released October 9, 2009
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/100909anhtonydiscoveryphotos/indexGallery.htm

I don't think there is anything new in that group, except the tattoo photos, but can anyone see these when you maximize them? They are all pixilated when I click on one.

[Lavinya]

it my mind we are really dealing with one little sick puppy here!! she does look a whole lot of yucky in those pictures!!

was that hair on the duct tape?:crying:

It looked like plant material, specifically small roots, to me, neid, because it seemed to have an awfully wide diameter to be hair...

[Barbara fl.]

Hard to say....it could be the frayed edges like in pic 11???

That's what I think....

[desmom]

I don't think there is anything new in that group, except the tattoo photos, but can anyone see these when you maximize them? They are all pixilated when I click on one.

I noticed the pixilation (is that a word) after I posted the link. I skimmed the thumbnails and agree we have seen the majority of them.

[need2no]

Looking at the duct tape pictures it seems the tape was torn, not cut smoothly with scissors. This would make it even more likely that fingerprints were on the tape since it takes quite a bit of effort holding onto the tape to get the initial tear started, then it rips fairly easily. Hopefully the elements didn't degrade the prints.

[BettyC]

I don't think there is anything new in that group, except the tattoo photos, but can anyone see these when you maximize them? They are all pixilated when I click on one.

Same here Lavinya. I can't see them if I click on them.

[Barbara fl.]

It looked like plant material, specifically small roots, to me, neid, because it seemed to have an awfully wide diameter to be hair...


I doubt that they would make public any of the remains to the tape...We are probably only being shown selected photo's....

[Sun]

It looked like plant material, specifically small roots, to me, neid, because it seemed to have an awfully wide diameter to be hair...

I believe what you are seeing, are portions of the disintregrated weaved fiber (with the adhesive mostly gone). What is left, is the face (top) side of the tape, with the backing and fibers nearly gone.

[desmom]

I have seen that tattoo before. Did Cast Iron give LE a drawing of the tat on Casey's shoulder?

Duh...I found it. http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/07/tatoo-artist-on-casey-it-was-definitely-definitely-strange/

[msgatorslayer]

I have seen that tattoo before. Did Cast Iron give LE a drawing of the tat on Casey's shoulder?

You're right Des.

It's just different actually seeing it on her.

[Katt2]

I don't think there is anything new in that group, except the tattoo photos, but can anyone see these when you maximize them? They are all pixilated when I click on one.

If you drop the zoom down to 50% you can see more clearly.

[desmom]

You're right Des.

It's just different actually seeing it on her.

Too much info to remember. I found it http://www.cayleedaily.com/2009/07/tatoo-artist-on-casey-it-was-definitely-definitely-strange/

[denjet]

it my mind we are really dealing with one little sick puppy here!! she does look a whole lot of yucky in those pictures!!

was that hair on the duct tape?:crying:
Hi neid!
So disturbing to actually see the tape :sad:
The strands are too coarse to be hair ... I think it's fiber from overlapping pieces of the duct tape

[desmom]

WESH has a "read documents" in the middle of http://www.wesh.com/news/21247660/detail.html and it takes you to http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1009/21250069.pdf

ETA ~ Oh-hum! It looks like it is mostly lists of evidence sent to the FBI.

[Lavinya]

I believe what you are seeing, are portions of the disintregrated weaved fiber (with the adhesive mostly gone). What is left, is the face (top) side of the tape, with the backing and fibers nearly gone.

Thanks, Sun. :smile:

[Barbara fl.]

This is something I found interesting on BlinkOnCrime ... she's been pretty accurate about the facts in the case and the discovery released to date ... it makes me hold out hope that there were indeed prints on the adhesive part of the tape ....
Scroll down to Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Friction Ridges Duct Tape and Suds: Caylee/Casey Anthony Case: Friction Ridges Duct Tape and Suds

Discovery Review Part II

Orlando, FL– In Part I, we reviewed the Latent Lift Myth.

Adding to the quagmire of why Linda Kenney Baden maintains there are no prints on the duct tape, one reviews Ms. Baden’s amended motion for discovery.

Ms. Baden requests the specific 18 latent lifts and subsequent file information from the FBI reports in “this matter”. However, those tests were performed from items removed from the Anthony home by Orange County Sheriffs Office, not the FBI, thus the “THERE ARE NO LATENT LIFTS IN THIS CASE”.

How does the defense attorney entrusted to interpret the forensic evidence in a death penalty case not know with what agency that information is held? It was released months ago.
Within the discovery, their is an email indicating a few areas of the tape were swabbed in the final testing process (CU) with methanol. This is performed on the non-adhesive side of the tape. Does it make sense if your sole intent was to extract DNA from this tape that you would be reduced to swabbing only the side of the tape NOT affixed to Caylee’s face?

It only makes sense if your goal is to preserve the integrity of what appears on the adhesive side, and exclude the possibility of DNA on areas that will not compromise the sample in that regard.


The side with the adhesive had deteriated from being in the water for so long....it's the outside of the tape that held up....Where you see cord like fiber is where the adhesive once was....

I would think it impossibe to get prints off of that....jmo

[denjet]

Anyone notice the Q#s on the evidence bags?

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249759/detail.html

Q64 - pics 2 and 4

Q63 - pics 5, 6, 8 and 9 (Pics 8 & 9 are the back view of Q63)

Q62 - 14 and 15

Hi des! yes, now we have pictures to go with those numbers in the reports ...
Need to go back and find the doc that references these ...

[denjet]

The side with the adhesive had deteriated from being in the water for so long....it's the outside of the tape that held up....Where you see cord like fiber is where the adhesive once was....

I would think it impossibe to get prints off of that....jmo
Hi Barb! I'm holding out for prints that may have been sealed between the layers of tape! also, that adhesive (especially high temp) takes a long long time to break down
JMO

[Barbara fl.]

I noticed the pixilation (is that a word) after I posted the link. I skimmed the thumbnails and agree we have seen the majority of them.


Desmom, I have to ask you this question...Are you an investigator? If not, you certainly missed your calling.....

Your the best...

[Sun]

You're right Des.

It's just different actually seeing it on her.

Big time different seeing it on her shoulder! Coupled with viewing pics of the duct tape, I am having a very tight feeling in my chest. Time for me to go for a nice long walk.... however, it's raining.

[neid_77]

Same here Lavinya. I can't see them if I click on them.

the pictures of her with the tattoo and her alone yuck!!!

i hope she is enjoying abitare la bella vita yuck yuck yuck!!


Caylee Marie:wub::wub:

[denjet]

Looking at the duct tape pictures it seems the tape was torn, not cut smoothly with scissors. This would make it even more likely that fingerprints were on the tape since it takes quite a bit of effort holding onto the tape to get the initial tear started, then it rips fairly easily. Hopefully the elements didn't degrade the prints.
Great observation need! I guess it would be too much to hope for, but if she used her teeth to start the tear, she would have left bite marks ... I guess they would be gone or hard to distinguish after 6 months ...

[Ellie]

It looked like plant material, specifically small roots, to me, neid, because it seemed to have an awfully wide diameter to be hair...


I am pretty sure it's the fibers from the duct tape itself (not hair or roots), It came off of the adhesive due to being in the water.

[TunaMelt]

??? I did read this what, last week or something but I guess I had no idea this was MURT. IS it Murt? Where is this coming from? Who is the other person? Can anyone attest that this is "really" Murt and not someone pretending to be him?

This is just bizarre.... wow.

It's murt.
One of his long ago night time paranoid chats.

The owner of Beacon Hell took that screen shot -- of the chat.

Go to Beacon Hell and email "Princess" -- she's the owner of the webiste and she'll direct you to the pertinent entries on her blog, or she'll explain the circumstances of it to you.

[BettyC]

the pictures of her with the tattoo and her alone yuck!!!

i hope she is enjoying abitare la bella vita yuck yuck yuck!!


Caylee Marie:wub::wub:

I agree. Also, it's one of the rare photos we've seen of her where she's not mugging for the camera. Not such a great life now is it Casey?

[neid_77]

Hi neid!
So disturbing to actually see the tape :sad:
The strands are too coarse to be hair ... I think it's fiber from overlapping pieces of the duct tape

glad they are not hair Den:crying: it would have been a little to much i wonder what the jury will think when they see these pictures and far worse ones where they see the duct tape wrapped around her skull, show pictures of Caylee while she was alive and then see pictures of her skull wrapped in duct tape! then listen to the defense lie and spin the truth!:cursing:

[farrahrani]

I don't think there is anything new in that group, except the tattoo photos, but can anyone see these when you maximize them? They are all pixilated when I click on one.


I can see them just fine.

If you are using some kind of speed enhancement, they might lower the quality of online images to load the page faster. Like Turbospeed for Netzero, and Bellsouth has some kind of netspeed setting.

[Barbara fl.]

Probably because of the way he acted during the searches and all of his taping. I'll never forget the time we were all traveling with Murt and he was driving behind George. :laugh:


Now I remember him, I thought I heard his name on here...I guess I wasn't on that much at the beginning....

[farrahrani]

Same here Lavinya. I can't see them if I click on them.


I'm going to take some screen shots and upload them to tinypic, and post the links here, if you are interested.

[denjet]

Big time different seeing it on her shoulder! Coupled with viewing pics of the duct tape, I am having a very tight feeling in my chest. Time for me to go for a nice long walk.... however, it's raining.
Seeing the actual pictures now is very disturbing ... I can't even imagine being on a jury and seeing photos of their placement .... :crying:

OMG Using a ruler I was able to approximate the length of the pieces of tape based on width being approx 2" ... and they're between 10 and 11" long !! :scared:

[Ellie]

It's murt.
One of his long ago night time paranoid chats.

The owner of Beacon Hell took that screen shot -- of the chat.

Go to Beacon Hell and email "Princess" -- she's the owner of the webiste and she'll direct you to the pertinent entries on her blog, or she'll explain the circumstances of it to you.

Yikes, I don't wanna. :blushing: As I said, unless you're a paid police officer or some long arm of the law on a search for a predator you should not be posting things like this. Bleh. Too much!!

[BettyC]

I'm going to take some screen shots and upload them to tinypic, and post the links here, if you are interested.

That'd be great if there are any that you think are new to us farrahrani.

Thanks.

[KatieLady]

Oh God.....they think she put Caylee in the "Big trouble comes in small packages" on purpose :sad:

[neid_77]

there is no denying it or getting around it THAT IS THE SAME DUCT TAPE!!!!!! that is on those posters we see George hanging up and on the gas can..how do you get around it? any person using common sense alone can see it!!

[BettyC]

Oh God.....they think she put Caylee in the "Big trouble comes in small packages" on purpose :sad:

Did you just read this somewhere Katie?

[Jen]

Oh God.....they think she put Caylee in the "Big trouble comes in small packages" on purpose :sad:

I read that & thought that's the 1st I've heard of that theory.

:thumbdown:

[Barbara fl.]

It was taped a long time ago. No question of whether she'll show.


Goes to show how much I know......:blush:

[denjet]

glad they are not hair Den:crying: it would have been a little to much i wonder what the jury will think when they see these pictures and far worse ones where they see the duct tape wrapped around her skull, show pictures of Caylee while she was alive and then see pictures of her skull wrapped in duct tape! then listen to the defense lie and spin the truth!:cursing:
I know ... I just measured myself and 11" goes from ear to ear on me !!! That witch must have wrapped that tape almost entirely around her little head !!
DP is too good for her ... I say wrapped her the way she did Caylee and throw her in a trunk to rot!

[Lavinya]

I'm going to take some screen shots and upload them to tinypic, and post the links here, if you are interested.

Thank you for your offer farrahrani, but don't do it on my account. I can tell by the thumbs, I've seen them before except the tattoo pics and I looked at them on another site. You're very thoughtful, though. :wub:

[WillowInFlight]

Seeing the actual pictures now is very disturbing ... I can't even imagine being on a jury and seeing photos of their placement .... :crying:

OMG Using a ruler I was able to approximate the length of the pieces of tape based on width being approx 2" ... and they're between 10 and 11" long !! :scared:

Picture 13 of Casey, her eyes look dead but pure evil at the same time

[KatieLady]

Did you just read this somewhere Katie?

In here Betty

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1009/21250069.pdf

[Lavinya]

Seeing the actual pictures now is very disturbing ... I can't even imagine being on a jury and seeing photos of their placement .... :crying:

OMG Using a ruler I was able to approximate the length of the pieces of tape based on width being approx 2" ... and they're between 10 and 11" long !! :scared:

Are we seeing pics of all three pieces though? I see the one piece that is is very good condition, the piece that is nothing but fibers, for the most part, but I don't see a third. :confused:

[Scampi]

WESH has a "read documents" in the middle of http://www.wesh.com/news/21247660/detail.html and it takes you to http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1009/21250069.pdf

ETA ~ Oh-hum! It looks like it is mostly lists of evidence sent to the FBI.

Thanks Des. Page three: They are trying to match up the pull up found at the remains scene with pull ups found in the anthony home, to refute the claim of KC that Caylee was in care of a "nanny." I think this is brilliant.

[Barbara fl.]

Hi Barb! I'm holding out for prints that may have been sealed between the layers of tape! also, that adhesive (especially high temp) takes a long long time to break down
JMO

Hi Denjet, Have we seen pictures of the tape from the posters yet? I haven't been on here too much in the last week...Thanks

[farrahrani]

Thank you for your offer farrahrani, but don't do it on my account. I can tell by the thumbs, I've seen them before except the tattoo pics and I looked at them on another site. You're very thoughtful, though. :wub:


Ok, no problem, if you change your mind, or anyone else needs it, pm me. :biggrin:

[no1what]

Reading this PDF...says a rug was taken from the Anthony home and lit up under alternative light source...luminol and blacklight???...it is unknown where Caylee died...


During the grand jury were both the State and the Defense present the entire time? I was wondering if the State presented most of it's findings/evidence which would mean that the defense already knows what the State really has.

[Bala]

there is no denying it or getting around it THAT IS THE SAME DUCT TAPE!!!!!! that is on those posters we see George hanging up and on the gas can..how do you get around it? any person using common sense alone can see it!!
What I have been wondering is when they say the duct tape don't match are they talking about the cut and trying to match the ends? If so and the Anthony's used the tape after Casey then they would need the pieces the Anthony's used to tie them together as a match. It doesn't mean that the duct tape didn't all come from the same roll. JMO

[TunaMelt]

I just read it myself and it is quite sickening....I remember Murt being on the board, but don't know if this is him....I also remember back then that sme posters were against him....

Is this guy for real? Why isn't he in jail?

What charges could have been filed against him?

[jose]

Great observation need! I guess it would be too much to hope for, but if she used her teeth to start the tear, she would have left bite marks ... I guess they would be gone or hard to distinguish after 6 months ...

den, I read here http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1009/21250069.pdf
that they sent the knife found in the back seat of KCs car for testing re: cutting of the duct tape.
also new to me was "carpet from porch" which illuminated under alternate light source.

[Bala]

During the grand jury were both the State and the Defense present the entire time? I was wondering if the State presented most of it's findings/evidence which would mean that the defense already knows what the State really has.
I thought the defense wasn't allowed in the grand jury. I thought only the State was.

[Lavinya]

I wonder what they are basing their hypothesis about the shirt lettering being done on purpose. It seems like they have info, no? I can't believe anyone would literally put a message on a child before killing them. Though I think Casey is an ABSOLUTE sociopath, I don't think she would have put that kind of energy in ridding herself of her burden.

[KatieLady]

Thanks Des. Page three: They are trying to match up the pull up found at the remains scene with pull ups found in the anthony home, to refute the claim of KC that Caylee was in care of a "nanny." I think this is brilliant.

Morning Scampi,

I think so too!

I love that they call her Caylee in this pdf and not the victim or the deceased. Just makes me feel better for some reason....like they acknowledge that she was a real person...not just a case # KWIM?

[Scampi]

There is evidence described as a "hair mat" I think this is the hair found with the skull and duct tape. I doubt if we will get those pictures now, but rather at trial.

[Lavinya]

What I have been wondering is when they say the duct tape don't match are they talking about the cut and trying to match the ends? If so and the Anthony's used the tape after Casey then they would need the pieces the Anthony's used to tie them together as a match. It doesn't mean that the duct tape didn't all come from the same roll. JMO

It is said that the adhesive is the same but that the fiber pattern is different, Bala, but those were preliminary reports. I personally haven't seen any edge comparisons.

[desmom]

Desmom, I have to ask you this question...Are you an investigator? If not, you certainly missed your calling.....

Your the best...

Thank you. Nope, I am just a mom.

Found another link for the pics like MyFoxOrlando had on their site. They are small, but clear -

http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/21249777/detail.html

http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/21250159/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;p=news&dm=ss&tn=b

http://www.clickorlando.com/slideshow/news/21250247/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;p=news&dm=ss&tn=b

[TunaMelt]

sometimes its impossible to get labels off something. My husband wouldn't bother trying. He'd let it wear off.

I don't remove them, if they're hard to get off. I'll try for maybe a couple of minutes and then say fergetaboutit. Taking it off takes too much time and will ruin my nails, LOL.

As I think about it, that sounds like something KC would think if it were her shovel: I've got to hurry and anyway it would ruin my nails to take it off.

Scary.

Are we sure this is the neighbor's shovel?

:scared:

[Sun]

Not sure what you are asking...the defense should have everything the state has. Discovery process.

The defense can depose witnesses, but for some unknown reason they seem to be not doing this.

[Pam1569]

I know ... I just measured myself and 11" goes from ear to ear on me !!! That witch must have wrapped that tape almost entirely around her little head !!
DP is too good for her ... I say wrapped her the way she did Caylee and throw her in a trunk to rot!

Hi den,
Not to be gross or be disrespectful to Caylee, but did anyone else notice on pic #7 of the slide show on wftv that it looks like Caylee's skull is in the glue that was on the duct tape. :crying:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249759/detail.html

[MGM111]

Seeing the actual pictures now is very disturbing ... I can't even imagine being on a jury and seeing photos of their placement .... :crying:

OMG Using a ruler I was able to approximate the length of the pieces of tape based on width being approx 2" ... and they're between 10 and 11" long !! :scared:


It seems very odd to me that the 3 pieces of tape look to be almost the same in length.

In a fit of rage - ripping the pieces off the roll to tape caylees mouth closed..you would think that casey would have created different lengths of tape??

I dont know where im going with this....it just seems strange to me.:confused:

[msgatorslayer]

I wonder what they are basing their hypothesis about the shirt lettering being done on purpose. It seems like they have info, no? I can't believe anyone would literally put a message on a child before killing them. Though I think Casey is an ABSOLUTE sociopath, I don't think she would have put that kind of energy in ridding herself of her burden.

Yeah, I don't understand their reasoning on that one, Lavinia. Maybe there is more to it than we know.

[denjet]

Hi Denjet, Have we seen pictures of the tape from the posters yet? I haven't been on here too much in the last week...Thanks
There was one on WFTV when Kathi first reported it ... it was only 2 to 3" long but you could see the Henkel logo

[Lavinya]

They have a sample of brown fluid that was in the bag of remains and they wanted that tested because of the possibility that a foreign substance was used to kill her.

[Bala]

I want to see the results of the DNA testing on the Winnie the Pooh blanket they found with Caylee and if anyone else in the family's DNA is on it. If Cindy George or Casey lied down with Caylee their DNA could still be on it proving it was the one from the house.

[denjet]

Hi den,
Not to be gross or be disrespectful to Caylee, but did anyone else notice on pic #7 of the slide show on wftv that it looks like Caylee's skull is in the glue that was on the duct tape. :crying:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249759/detail.html
OMG I'm looking now but can't make that out ... :crying:

[desmom]

Seeing the actual pictures now is very disturbing ... I can't even imagine being on a jury and seeing photos of their placement .... :crying:

OMG Using a ruler I was able to approximate the length of the pieces of tape based on width being approx 2" ... and they're between 10 and 11" long !! :scared:

You are good!

page 353 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html

three pieces of duct tape....with pieces measuring 9.75 in x 2 in, 7.25 in x 2 in, and 8.75 in respectively". They are identified as ...Q62...", "...Q63...", and "...Q64..."

same link page 279 identifies "Q62 - Q64 Tape" under "Items From Medical Examiner's Office"

[Lavinya]

Let's not forget these pieces of tape were sent to the FBI to eliminate the prints of George, Cindy and Lee Anthony.

I'll ask this question again, just cuz I can. :smile: Why would this be necessary if no prints were there at all?

I know what you mean, Sissy, I know what you mean.

[denjet]

Just wanted to post this, I'll have to got back and read, but the pages of the docs that have the results of testing of these pieces of tape Q62, Q63 and Q64 are pages 8634 thru 8639
(sorry can't find link to just this portion of the report ... it's all lumped into a big one on WFTV)

[need2no]

From http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1009/21250069.pdf

This is the first time I've read anything about:
fibers attached to right humerous :scared:

[Irestmycase]

Thanks for your thoughts, Katie. It's just disturbing... I can't imagine typing or even thinking the things written in here, whether it's BS or not. Know what I mean?

Can someone post the link to this thanks

[Lavinya]

Yeah, I don't understand their reasoning on that one, Lavinia. Maybe there is more to it than we know.

I hope so MGS! I hope they have enough to blow that b!tch to kingdom come.

[neid_77]

Hi den,
Not to be gross or be disrespectful to Caylee, but did anyone else notice on pic #7 of the slide show on wftv that it looks like Caylee's skull is in the glue that was on the duct tape. :crying:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249759/detail.html

Hi!!! Pam!!:smile:

is the darker part on the picture 7 where Caylee's Mouth could have been!?!?::crying:

[msgatorslayer]

Let's not forget these pieces of tape were sent to the FBI to eliminate the prints of George, Cindy and Lee Anthony.

I'll ask this question again, just cuz I can. :smile: Why would this be necessary if no prints were there at all?

I've also read that their prints could have been taken as procedure.

To have something to test against, had their been prints on the tape.

The day Caylee's remains were found, LE jumped on the Anthony's house, fast, with a warrant. Is this the same day the Anthony's gave their finger prints? Anyone know?

It took many more days for LE to get that crime scene processed. And even longer for a lab to test everything that was submitted.

Not knowing what would match and what wouldn't. But by the time the lab was searching for prints, they had prints of everyone in the Anthony home to compare with evidence at the crime scene.

[Ellie]

Morning Scampi,

I think so too!

I love that they call her Caylee in this pdf and not the victim or the deceased. Just makes me feel better for some reason....like they acknowledge that she was a real person...not just a case # KWIM?

I totally agree with you, and when it's typed in all CAPS too.

[KatieLady]

Hi den,
Not to be gross or be disrespectful to Caylee, but did anyone else notice on pic #7 of the slide show on wftv that it looks like Caylee's skull is in the glue that was on the duct tape. :crying:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21249759/detail.html

Can you see any outline of the heart sticker on any of these Pam? I don't but I am not the best at finding that kind of stuff

[WillowInFlight]

Can someone post the link to this thanks

http://beaconhell.com/b/blog/2009/10/01/even-more-anthony-documents/#more-1746

[TunaMelt]

Seeing the actual pictures now is very disturbing ... I can't even imagine being on a jury and seeing photos of their placement .... :crying:

OMG Using a ruler I was able to approximate the length of the pieces of tape based on width being approx 2" ... and they're between 10 and 11" long !! :scared:

That would wind around her entire head.:crying:

How absolutely evil.

[KatieLady]

:confused: Where are you seeing this, Katie?

http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1009/21250069.pdf

[Lavinya]

I've also read that their prints could have been taken as procedure.

To have something to test against, had their been prints on the tape.

The day Caylee's remains were found, LE jumped on the Anthony's house, fast, with a warrant. Is this the same day the Anthony's gave their finger prints? Anyone know?

It took many more days for LE to get that crime scene processed. And even longer for a lab to test everything that was submitted.

Not knowing what would match and what wouldn't. But by the time the lab was searching for prints, they had prints of everyone in the Anthony home to compare with evidence at the crime scene.

I believe they did get their prints on Dec. 11, when Caylee's remains were found. I remember being surprised that no one had obtained examplars until that late.

[KatieLady]

Can someone post the link to this thanks

I'm sorry I don't have it but it was posted earlier this morning

[iluvmua]

Does anybody know when this picture of Casey was taken?

www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-100909,0,132458.story

[Lavinya]

That would wind around her entire head.:crying:

How absolutely evil.

We know it went at least from where the mandible meets the skull in the rear, since the tape held that in place when normal decomp would have allowed separation.

[farrahrani]

Yeah, I don't understand their reasoning on that one, Lavinia. Maybe there is more to it than we know.

The "Big Trouble Comes in Small Packages" tshirt? Unless Casey went out and made that shirt herself (which I doubt, too much effort for someone like her, IMO) I'd say it was something picked up at Target or KMART. I used to get cute shirts like that for my girl, "here comes trouble'', or a cute snail drawing with "Worth the wait" or something like that. I think Caylee must have had lots of shirts like that, they're cute, cheap, and on sale during summer, and trendy. They usually have funny or sarcastic quips on them, and I loved them.

IMO.

[Lavinya]

Does anybody know when this picture of Casey was taken?

www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-100909,0,132458.story

It was August of this year.

[need2no]

Seeing the actual pictures now is very disturbing ... I can't even imagine being on a jury and seeing photos of their placement .... :crying:

OMG Using a ruler I was able to approximate the length of the pieces of tape based on width being approx 2" ... and they're between 10 and 11" long !! :scared:


Thanks den, interesting...could this indicate premeditation for the pieces to be so equal in length? No way this would occur in a fit of rage.

[iluvmua]

It was August of this year.

Thanks Lavinya

[Ellie]

Can someone post the link to this thanks

One last time... :)
http://beaconhell.com/b/blog/2009/10...nts/#more-1746

[Barbara fl.]

We know it went at least from where the mandible meets the skull in the rear, since the tape held that in place when normal decomp would have allowed separation.


So she didn't just keep wrapping it around as in a fit of anger....she ripped piece by piece off?

Wonder what LKB and the rest are saying now?

[Pam1569]

Can you see any outline of the heart sticker on any of these Pam? I don't but I am not the best at finding that kind of stuff

Hi Katie, If you look at the wftv link that I posted. If you look at pic # 16 on the upper left corner there is a dark spot and near the left corner of the dark spot there is a light impression which looks to as if something was there at one time and it also looks like the bottom of a heart. imo

[Pam1569]

Does anybody know when this picture of Casey was taken?

www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-100909,0,132458.story


Hi iluvmua,
According to wftv first pic on their slide show it states that it was taken on August 13, 2009.

[neid_77]

Can someone Please tell me this isn't unusual here!!! according to Wesh the garbage bags and diapers and stuff, they didn't find matches to them at the home? what did the anthony's get rid of all this stuff? or did they were all used...someone posted a video awhile back showing George taking out trash and the bag the trash was in was the same kind of bag that was at the crime scene?? SOMEONE HELP me this isn't unusual is it? i mean alot of time passed in between Caylee was found and them reporting her missing!

[need2no]

The "Big Trouble Comes in Small Packages" tshirt? Unless Casey went out and made that shirt herself (which I doubt, too much effort for someone like her, IMO) I'd say it was something picked up at Target or KMART. I used to get cute shirts like that for my girl, "here comes trouble'', or a cute snail drawing with "Worth the wait" or something like that. I think Caylee must have had lots of shirts like that, they're cute, cheap, and on sale during summer, and trendy. They usually have funny or sarcastic quips on them, and I loved them.

IMO.

I don't know, but I took it the shirt was possibly a home craft project. You can buy t-shirts for next to nothing and individual iron on letters at all the craft stores. Though I have nothing to base this on...I always assumed Cindy created the shirt thinking it was 'cute'. For the most part, lettering on store bought t-shirts would not come off as individual letters, or withstand the elements as well as the thicker craft type letters bought individually. Most store bought t-shirts have the wording printed on the shirt. From the LE reports some of the letters were found with the remains, other letters were scattered around the scene.

Just my thoughts...

[Postergeist]

They have a sample of brown fluid that was in the bag of remains and they wanted that tested because of the possibility that a foreign substance was used to kill her.

Hi ya Lavinya- I recall that, but later I thought it was determined to be tobacco juice, because Tony or his roommate chewed tobacco?

I could be wrong on that tho

[Lavinya]

Thanks Lavinya

You are quite welcome Luv.

[Pam1569]

Hi!!! Pam!!:smile:

is the darker part on the picture 7 where Caylee's Mouth could have been!?!?::crying:

Hi neid_77

Yes that is where I was talking about. :crying:

[Lavinya]

Hi ya Lavinya- I recall that, but later I thought it was determined to be tobacco juice, because Tony or his roommate chewed tobacco?

I could be wrong on that tho

Eww, Postie, I don't remember that. Why the heck would that be at the crime scene?

[TunaMelt]

I wonder what they are basing their hypothesis about the shirt lettering being done on purpose. It seems like they have info, no? I can't believe anyone would literally put a message on a child before killing them. Though I think Casey is an ABSOLUTE sociopath, I don't think she would have put that kind of energy in ridding herself of her burden.

Maybe she put that shirt on post mortem, lavinia.
:scared:

[Lucy]

It is said that the adhesive is the same but that the fiber pattern is different, Bala, but those were preliminary reports. I personally haven't seen any edge comparisons.

I Would think the weather, and water, etc. would break down some of the fibers.

[Postergeist]

Eww, Postie, I don't remember that. Why the heck would that be at the crime scene?

Was that specifically taken from the dump site or from the garbage that had been in her trunk and retrieved at the tow lot?

I do know that Tony id'd the garbage items as being from his apt. that were at one time in Casey's car.

[denjet]

You are good!

page 353 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html

three pieces of duct tape....with pieces measuring 9.75 in x 2 in, 7.25 in x 2 in, and 8.75 in respectively". They are identified as ...Q62...", "...Q63...", and "...Q64..."

same link page 279 identifies "Q62 - Q64 Tape" under "Items From Medical Examiner's Office"

Thanks des! My scaling was off ... :wink:

[denjet]

Can someone Please tell me this isn't unusual here!!! according to Wesh the garbage bags and diapers and stuff, they didn't find matches to them at the home? what did the anthony's get rid of all this stuff? or did they were all used...someone posted a video awhile back showing George taking out trash and the bag the trash was in was the same kind of bag that was at the crime scene?? SOMEONE HELP me this isn't unusual is it? i mean alot of time passed in between Caylee was found and them reporting her missing!
Not sure, but I remember Cindy giving OSCO a trashbag with stuff that was in the car ... and it had the right color ties ... the one's George put out to the curb had another color ties ... not sure which was which now but thought that the Cindy one was the same color ... that was around July 16-17th

[Scampi]

On Page 13 it is noted that residue in the shape of a perfect heart was found on the tape. Even if they do not have a photo of this residue, at least they can call to the stand this tech who saw the residue to testify to it.

Also, I am supremely confident they can match some of that black plastic found at the remains site, to the black plastic bags in the anthony home.

Anyone remember the Melanie McGuire case and how distinctive those bags can be?

I hope this defense team and this defendant and her family are having a bad day, a very bad day.

[Lucy]

Hi iluvmua,
According to wftv first pic on their slide show it states that it was taken on August 13, 2009.

Is that acne all over her back?

[msgatorslayer]

I Would think the weather, and water, etc. would break down some of the fibers.

Especially the flood waters. From my experience, duct tape exposed to the sun mainly looses it's adhesive while remaining intact. This was special, commerical tape, with a high heat tolerance.

Casey got very lucky, IMO. If it hadn't been for TS FAY, I do believe there would be alot more evidence against her.

[MisterGrey]

den, I read here http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/1009/21250069.pdf
that they sent the knife found in the back seat of KCs car for testing re: cutting of the duct tape.
also new to me was "carpet from porch" which illuminated under alternate light source.

This is the first mention I have seen of the seafoam/cream rug (Q209) taken from the porch area taken from the house after Caylee's body was discovered.
(also seized were a plastic/vinyl table cloth (Turq) and a vinyl seat cushion.)
The rug stood out in my mind at the time.
Months had pasted since the "terminal event" and hearing how the Anthony's just loved to clean, clean, clean, living in the home with wall to wall white carpet, I did not hold out a lot of hope that the rug, possibly wash a zillion times, would give up much usable evidence.

[Scampi]

Not sure, but I remember Cindy giving OSCO a trashbag with stuff that was in the car ... and it had the right color ties ... the one's George put out to the curb had another color ties ... not sure which was which now but thought that the Cindy one was the same color ... that was around July 16-17th

You're right Den and that bag is noted in this document. How very helpful george was giving LE that bag.

[Pam1569]

Is that acne all over her back?

Hi Lucy, Sure is. I guess she has been eating to much junk food. jmo

[Lavinya]

We don't know of Casey having any medical conditions, huh? What I'm wondering is if there is a possibility she is taking some kind of steroids for a medical condition. With her weight gain and that bacne, it is a possibility. Usually back acne is limited to the shoulders and if you have acne bad enough to extend all the way down the back, you usually have a wild case going on on the face. Curious... (And if she *was* taking steroids around the time Caylee was murdered, I can see that being used in a defense, but this is all speculation.)

[Lucy]

On Page 13 it is noted that residue in the shape of a perfect heart was found on the tape. Even if they do not have a photo of this residue, at least they can call to the stand this tech who saw the residue to testify to it.

Also, I am supremely confident they can match some of that black plastic found at the remains site, to the black plastic bags in the anthony home.

Anyone remember the Melanie McGuire case and how distinctive those bags can be?

I hope this defense team and this defendant and her family are having a bad day, a very bad day.


IIRC some of the things that Cindy gave OCSD she put them in a black garbage bag. They put it in a box. When they opened the box trash bag with things in there was in the box. That was soon after Caylee was reported missing. I'll bet they used tha bag to compare to the bags Caylee was found in.

[msgatorslayer]

Is that it? No more docs? Where is the maggot report?:angry:

[Lucy]

Hi Lucy, Sure is. I guess she has been eating to much junk food. jmo

No wonder she didn't want her back photographed.

[sammy62]

Morning Scampi,

I think so too!

I love that they call her Caylee in this pdf and not the victim or the deceased. Just makes me feel better for some reason....like they acknowledge that she was a real person...not just a case # KWIM?

even more personal than her family who couldn't seem to say her name. "that little girl", my granddaughter, your daughter, cma.

[Lavinya]

Was that specifically taken from the dump site or from the garbage that had been in her trunk and retrieved at the tow lot?

I do know that Tony id'd the garbage items as being from his apt. that were at one time in Casey's car.

It's listed among the items seized at the site where Caylee was dumped, Postie.

[cassidy]

We don't know of Casey having any medical conditions, huh? What I'm wondering is if there is a possibility she is taking some kind of steroids for a medical condition. With her weight gain and that bacne, it is a possibility. Usually back acne is limited to the shoulders and if you have acne bad enough to extend all the way down the back, you usually have a wild case going on on the face. Curious... (And if she *was* taking steroids around the time Caylee was murdered, I can see that being used in a defense, but this is all speculation.)

If she has oily skin and is only allowed to shower every 2 days she could get acne anywhere.

JMO

[Pam1569]

Is that it? No more docs? Where is the maggot report?:angry:

Hi msgator, IA whesh reported this afternoon that 1400 pages were released today to them. This can't be it!!!!!!!!!!:angry:

[msgatorslayer]

If she has oily skin and is only allowed to shower every 2 days she could get acne anywhere.

JMO

Maybe she's allergic to the laundry soap the jail uses.

No Arm n hammer for her!!

[TunaMelt]

We don't know of Casey having any medical conditions, huh? What I'm wondering is if there is a possibility she is taking some kind of steroids for a medical condition. With her weight gain and that bacne, it is a possibility. Usually back acne is limited to the shoulders and if you have acne bad enough to extend all the way down the back, you usually have a wild case going on on the face. Curious... (And if she *was* taking steroids around the time Caylee was murdered, I can see that being used in a defense, but this is all speculation.)

So you mean she just began taking steroids in jail? And wasn't taking them in her size five pre-incarnation...she doesn't seem to have the typical steroid bloat look that people get (me, at one time) when they have to take steroids. Her weight gain doesn't look "funny" to me, just sort of normal weight gain fat -- but you are the expert at this.

Her back looks like hell, weird. I've never seen that. I thought it was mostly moles. Which she should have had removed -- dangerous things, and they look so big.

:confused:

[farrahrani]

I don't know, but I took it the shirt was possibly a home craft project. You can buy t-shirts for next to nothing and individual iron on letters at all the craft stores. Though I have nothing to base this on...I always assumed Cindy created the shirt thinking it was 'cute'. For the most part, lettering on store bought t-shirts would not come off as individual letters, or withstand the elements as well as the thicker craft type letters bought individually. Most store bought t-shirts have the wording printed on the shirt. From the LE reports some of the letters were found with the remains, other letters were scattered around the scene.

Just my thoughts...

I haven't seen the pics of the letters. Did they look anything like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Girls-18-mos-shirt-big-troublecomes-in-small-packages_W0QQitemZ290357030564QQcmdZViewItemQQimsx Z20091007?IMSfp=TL091007135007r38587

[Postergeist]

It's listed among the items seized at the site where Caylee was dumped, Postie.

TY Lavinya- not much of a send off was it, I've known people that have buried their pets with luvvies, stuffed toys, etc. for their time in the afterlife, imo.

Hoping that there with be bug evidence released sometime today, I'll check back in after lunch.

[TunaMelt]

Hi msgator, IA whesh reported this afternoon that 1400 pages were released today to them. This can't be it!!!!!!!!!!:angry:

I'm hoping there's a lot of good stuff, left to come and that's why it's taking a while.

I hope.

[Scampi]

Is that it? No more docs? Where is the maggot report?:angry:

Now MsGator, don't be getting all cranky. This is a good start, the next 1000 pages may contain the results of all this testing.

:wub:

[Lavinya]

If she has oily skin and is only allowed to shower every 2 days she could get acne anywhere.

JMO

Hey cassidy. :seeya:

Acne is not treated or prevented by the amount one washes, nor a particular diet. http://www.skincarephysicians.com/acnenet/FAQ.html

[*Serenity*]

Who knows...she may have got a chuckle out of that...JMO...:sad:

I remember a photo of Caylee wearing this shirt and IIRC it was pink with the lettering.

[Lavinya]

TY Lavinya- not much of a send off was it, I've known people that have buried their pets with luvvies, stuffed toys, etc. for their time in the afterlife, imo.

Hoping that there with be bug evidence released sometime today, I'll check back in after lunch.

Hey, she got a heart across her mouth. :cursing:

[neid_77]

Is that it? No more docs? Where is the maggot report?:angry:

i agree. what ever happened to those 10,000 pages we were spost to see? i guess by know i shouldn't be disappointed...i willing to bet there are alot of ducuments we have not seen yet.

[Postergeist]

I no longer have the link handy, however, I think it's important for everyone to make this distinction. There is a separate, two-page report returned to LE from the FBI latent fingerprint lab which address only the 3 pieces of duct tape on Caylee's skull and the 3 sets of prints from George, Cindy and Lee. This indicates to me LE made a special point of sending just the sets of prints from G/C/L and those pieces of duct tape, for the purpose of eliminating fingerprints found on the duct tape. George's, Cindy's and Lee's prints were not found on the duct tape. But logic says there were prints on the tape. Otherwise, there would be no need in the world to send that particular, isolated request for testing to the FBI.

TY for posting this and reminding us of this important part SIA, impie.

I hope so much of what we are getting to see, the jury will as well.

imo

[Scampi]

Hey, she got a heart across her mouth. :cursing:

....and her favorite Winnie the Pooh blankie, what else could be expected of KC, she had her Bella Vita to live......... :cuss:

[need2no]

First I thought it was freckles...which some are...but the ones on the lower back don't look like freckles...maybe scabies...or scurvy??? They certainly look like sores though..not freckles...seems jail is taking a toll on her...poor thing...

I looked up bedsores (pics) to compare to the pic of casey's back...
TRUST ME, you do not want to look up images of bedsores. barf

I also looked up pics of back acne, and I suppose it could be that but casey's 'bumps' appear to be more flat looking, than raised, like back acne.

Could she be allergic to the detergent used to launder the lovely uniform she wears?

[Pam1569]

I'm hoping there's a lot of good stuff, left to come and that's why it's taking a while.

I hope.

Hi Tuna, I just refreshed wftv site and they are going to have more later on their site and on the local news at 5pm.

[msgatorslayer]

Now MsGator, don't be getting all cranky. This is a good start, the next 1000 pages may contain the results of all this testing.

:wub:

I am getting cranking, aye?

I'll apologize and go comfort myself in a corner. :wub:

[Scampi]

I looked up bedsores (pics) to compare to the pic of casey's back...
TRUST ME, you do not want to look up images of bedsores. barf

I also looked up pics of back acne, and I suppose it could be that but casey's 'bumps' appear to be more flat looking, than raised, like back acne.

Could she be allergic to the detergent used to launder the lovely uniform she wears?

I imagine the belly chains aggravate this condition, what a pity.

[Postergeist]

Hey, she got a heart across her mouth. :cursing:

yeah, I for one would just not think to "pretty up" some duct tape, esp. one used to help murder/suffocate/silence forever another person, imo. That's one quality I am very thankful for not having.

[desmom]

Thanks des! My scaling was off ... :wink:

Not by much! I think you did an excellent job!

Playing catch up and apologize if this is an echo:

NEW DOCUMENTS:
Trunk Evidence Form
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/trunkevidence.pdf

FBI Lab Chain-of-Custody Log
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/chainofcustody.pdf

FBI Evidence Form
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/evidencesheetsFBI.pdf

Injection List
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/injectionlistdnacklist.pdf

FBI Latent Print Unit
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/latentprints.pdf

[need2no]

I no longer have the link handy, however, I think it's important for everyone to make this distinction. There is a separate, two-page report returned to LE from the FBI latent fingerprint lab which addresses only the 3 pieces of duct tape on Caylee's skull and the 3 sets of prints from George, Cindy and Lee. This indicates to me LE made a special point of sending just the sets of prints from G/C/L and those pieces of duct tape, for the purpose of eliminating fingerprints found on the duct tape. George's, Cindy's and Lee's prints were not found on the duct tape. But logic says there were prints on the tape. Otherwise, there would be no need in the world to send that particular, isolated request for testing to the FBI.

FWIW-I totally agree Say.

[Scampi]

I am getting cranking, aye?

I'll apologize and go comfort myself in a corner. :wub:

LOL, I'll help to comfort you too. Don't forget, this doc lays out all the testing they want done, I'm sure there is a huge document with the results and oh boy are they going to be interesting.

[farrahrani]

As far as back acne, my former brother in law had horrendous back acne. Nowhere else but an occasional spot on his face or arms or whatever, nothing major, but his back was horrific.

Looks like Casey has the same condition, and is probably unable to get specialized doctor prescribed acne treatement while in jail now. If she had ever had it to begin with. Ex husband used to take...I forgot the name of the pills >.< , but they cleared his up, after taking them for a couple of years he didn't need them anymore. Depending on the treatment it can be pretty expensive, and now that Casey doesn't have access to "free" (stolen) money, my guess is that kind of thing is out of reach for now. Poor thing. (sarcasm :cursing:)

[Lavinya]

First I thought it was freckles...which some are...but the ones on the lower back don't look like freckles...maybe scabies...or scurvy??? They certainly look like sores though..not freckles...seems jail is taking a toll on her...poor thing...

Ugh, I got scabies from being in the hospital once, of all places. It is highly unpleasant to know bugs are tunneling through your skin and pooping in you (that's what causes the itch, not the insects tunneling). Not to mention the *horrible* itch! This is where scabies usually show up:

* between the fingers,
* wrist,
* elbow,
* armpit,
* penis,
* nipple,
* waist,
* buttocks,
* shoulder blades.

[Scampi]

As far as back acne, my former brother in law had horrendous back acne. Nowhere else but an occasional spot on his face or arms or whatever, nothing major, but his back was horrific.

Looks like Casey has the same condition, and is probably unable to get specialized doctor prescribed acne treatement while in jail now. If she had ever had it to begin with. Ex husband used to take...I forgot the name of the pills >.< , but they cleared his up, after taking them for a couple of years he didn't need them anymore. Depending on the treatment it can be pretty expensive, and now that Casey doesn't have access to "free" (stolen) money, my guess is that kind of thing is out of reach for now. Poor thing. (sarcasm :cursing:)

Didn't Lee have acne too as a kid and got very sick from the medication he took for it?

[Lavinya]

....and her favorite Winnie the Pooh blankie, what else could be expected of KC, she had her Bella Vita to live......... :cuss:

I don't know if any of my old posts are here, but I said I though she would be found with some bedding. I thought it would be a blanket or a pillow. I knew Casey would add that special touch to killing her daughter. :rolleyes:

[Lavinya]

Didn't Lee have acne too as a kid and got very sick from the medication he took for it?

Yes, he took Accutane and got a blood disorder.

[neid_77]

Not by much! I think you did an excellent job!

Playing catch up and apologize if this is an echo:

NEW DOCUMENTS:
Trunk Evidence Form
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/trunkevidence.pdf

FBI Lab Chain-of-Custody Log
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/chainofcustody.pdf

FBI Evidence Form
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/evidencesheetsFBI.pdf

Injection List
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/injectionlistdnacklist.pdf

FBI Latent Print Unit
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/latentprints.pdf

what do they mean by injecton list?

[5boxersmom]

When I saw Casey's back the first thing that came to my mind was bedbug bites. YUCK.

[Scampi]

Yes, he took Accutane and got a blood disorder.

Thanks Lavie, would the jail have to treat this condition of KC's with expensive medications?

[Lavinya]

Not by much! I think you did an excellent job!

Playing catch up and apologize if this is an echo:

NEW DOCUMENTS:
Trunk Evidence Form
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/trunkevidence.pdf

FBI Lab Chain-of-Custody Log
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/chainofcustody.pdf

FBI Evidence Form
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/evidencesheetsFBI.pdf

Injection List
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/injectionlistdnacklist.pdf

FBI Latent Print Unit
http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/latentprints.pdf


What the hay is that injection list? :confused:

ETA: Answering my own question, it appears to be associated with DNA analysis, with PCR results.

[Zarina]

Does anyone know what this sworn document means? It was signed by Casey Oct 5, 2009 & notarized by Baez.
I was wondering if it could be part of an upcoming plea.

Also, can Baez legally notarize for Casey?

Thanks to anyone who can help explain what this is .


http://humbleopinionforum.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/caseyswearing.

[Postergeist]

You just jogged my memory. Lee had a very bad case of acne as a teenager.

ah yes, and thusly the reason to lose his faith, per his mother IRRC in her FBI/LE interview.

imo

now how that information could possibly help in the search for the missing Caylee at the time, I have no idea, but it apparently seemed important enough to the grandmother for LE to know that.

[msgatorslayer]

what do they mean by injecton list?

Looks like a list of every test tube [evidence sample] that was placed into a machine at the lab.

[need2no]

On Page 13 it is noted that residue in the shape of a perfect heart was found on the tape. Even if they do not have a photo of this residue, at least they can call to the stand this tech who saw the residue to testify to it.

Also, I am supremely confident they can match some of that black plastic found at the remains site, to the black plastic bags in the anthony home.

Anyone remember the Melanie McGuire case and how distinctive those bags can be?

I hope this defense team and this defendant and her family are having a bad day, a very bad day.

Frankly I can't imagine someone didn't take a picture of the heart shaped residue, that's quite a 'find'. Perhaps the prosecution hasn't located the pic just yet. :wink:

I just hope the Anthony's had purchased a huge box of trash bags so 31plus days later whenever LE took them in as evidence, the bags seized from the house matched the same lot as the ones casey used.
Worst case scenario, there may have only been a few bags left in the box when casey took a couple from it, and the remaining bags were used, thrown out, and a new box was purchased.

[Lavinya]

Thanks Lavie, would the jail have to treat this condition of KC's with expensive medications?

She SURE as heck wouldn't get accutane! We went through Accutane with one of my kids and it's amazingly complex to get and the liabilty is high. They *might* offer her a run of the mill antibiotic, either orally or a topical solution and that would only be to prevent further infection, but chances are, she doesn't get jack squat if medical deems it a cosmetic problem.

[need2no]

ah yes, and thusly the reason to lose his faith, per his mother IRRC in her FBI/LE interview.

imo

now how that information could possibly help in the search for the missing Caylee at the time, I have no idea, but it apparently seemed important enough to the grandmother for LE to know that.


Oh woe is me....just another thing poor martyr Cindy had to endure and take care of for her family. :rolleyes:

[need2no]

She SURE as heck wouldn't get accutane! We went through Accutane with one of my kids and it's amazingly complex to get and the liabilty is high. They *might* offer her a run of the mill antibiotic, either orally or a topical solution and that would only be to prevent further infection, but chances are, she doesn't get jack squat if medical deems it a cosmetic problem.

Awwwwwww...how sad.


:wink:

[Lavinya]

So much for my breakfast. :scared:

Sorry about that Sissy. I'm telling ya' it was horribly disgusting.

[Pierre]

Well nobody wanted to talk about it yesterday, but I cant wait until LE deposes D Casey!
"Who were you on the phone with the day you were looking for Caylee Mr. Casey, and dont say Jinette Lucas the Psychic because we know thats not true"

[witchywoman]

Does anybody know when this picture of Casey was taken?

www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-100909,0,132458.story

EWWWWWWWWWW, HER BACK IS NASTY LOOKING..MO
I cannot eat lunch now

[Lavinya]

Awwwwwww...how sad.


:wink:

Yeah, my heart bleeds. :laugh:

[Lavinya]

Well nobody wanted to talk about it yesterday, but I cant wait until LE deposes D Casey!
"Who were you on the phone with the day you were looking for Caylee Mr. Casey, and dont say Jinette Lucas the Psychic because we know thats not true"

So far he's weasled out of his obligations. He has a lot to answer for, IMO.

[*Serenity*]

....and her favorite Winnie the Pooh blankie, what else could be expected of KC, she had her Bella Vita to live......... :cuss:

Caylee didn't get her favorite Mama Dolly.... the one that she held on to instead of having a real Mama. The photos of Caylee strapped in her car seat with her Mama Doll staring at the back of Casey's head-- the dolly was Caylee's comfort. :-(




NO Casey had to keep the Mama Dolly in the car away from her. *spiteful* as if murdering her was not enough. If the Nanny had
Caylee then the Nanny and Caylee would have Mama Dolly and Poo
Blankie.

Wonder where Caylee's favorite book is. ?????????

[msgatorslayer]

EWWWWWWWWWW, HER BACK IS NASTY LOOKING..MO
I cannot eat lunch now

Was Baez present for this photo-op?

That's my girl!!:wub:

[num1barb]

Mornin' folks!
Oh boy, looks like we'll see the news docs today!! yay!
Here's a slideshow of KC and her tatt:
(I didn't see the whole slideshow posted yet, so here it is)
Photos of KC's Tattoo (http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/news/21249090/detail.html)

whew ... they are NOT very flattering!!


Bleck. Check out the back acne on pic #15.
She needs to spend some of her commissary funds to get some better soap IMO.

[Pierre]

EWWWWWWWWWW, HER BACK IS NASTY LOOKING..MO
I cannot eat lunch now

Maybe its matress rash, and prolly started before Jail IMO.

[witchywoman]

Thanks Lavie, would the jail have to treat this condition of KC's with expensive medications?

When i was in lock up(prison/ drug case) many moons ago, 14 yrs ago..

my cell mate had got scabies..

the prison did treat her for that..................

but i dont know about regular zits? i doubt they treat for acne, jmo

[desmom]

Wasn't it reported the grey pinstripe pants were the ones Cindy removed from Casey's car, Cindy washed them and put them back in Casey's closet? Didn't Cindy also say she washed the clothes from Tone's because they smelled like smoke?

On page 12, http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/trunkevidence.pdf are a list of items removed from east room closet at Hopespring Drive.

On pages 13 - 14, all the items are listed as worn and/or worn and soiled.

:eek:

[witchywoman]

Not even a muffin? :sneaky:

not a crumb lol

[denjet]

Frankly I can't imagine someone didn't take a picture of the heart shaped residue, that's quite a 'find'. Perhaps the prosecution hasn't located the pic just yet. :wink:

I just hope the Anthony's had purchased a huge box of trash bags so 31plus days later whenever LE took them in as evidence, the bags seized from the house matched the same lot as the ones casey used.
Worst case scenario, there may have only been a few bags left in the box when casey took a couple from it, and the remaining bags were used, thrown out, and a new box was purchased.
I'm just reading and the heart shaped residue was observed on Q63 ... as per page 27
Latent Prints PDF (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/latentprints.pdf)

[Pierre]

As far as back acne, my former brother in law had horrendous back acne. Nowhere else but an occasional spot on his face or arms or whatever, nothing major, but his back was horrific.

Looks like Casey has the same condition, and is probably unable to get specialized doctor prescribed acne treatement while in jail now. If she had ever had it to begin with. Ex husband used to take...I forgot the name of the pills >.< , but they cleared his up, after taking them for a couple of years he didn't need them anymore. Depending on the treatment it can be pretty expensive, and now that Casey doesn't have access to "free" (stolen) money, my guess is that kind of thing is out of reach for now. Poor thing. (sarcasm :cursing:)

I'm sure Baez can turn it into a motion for special treatment, ya know like letting Casey out of Jail to help search for Caylee LOL

[Pretty Leaf]

How come she is wearing mascara in the pictures?

[witchywoman]

Bleck. Check out the back acne on pic #15.
She needs to spend some of her commissary funds to get some better soap IMO.

back in the day, texas prisons used lye soap for inmates..

I wonder if florida uses it?

[denjet]

That is one huge and UGLY tattoo! IMO
Hi Annie !!
Looking at KC's photos, I can't help but wonder what Tony thinks ... still think she's hot, Tony?

[witchywoman]

Was Baez present for this photo-op?

That's my girl!!:wub:

If he was there durring the photo op, i bet hes way grossed out now lol mo

[msgatorslayer]

Wasn't it reported the grey pinstripe pants were the ones Cindy removed from Casey's car, Cindy washed them and put them back in Casey's closet? Didn't Cindy also say she washed the clothes from Tone's because they smelled like smoke?

On page 12, http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/trunkevidence.pdf are a list of items removed from east room closet at Hopespring Drive.

On pages 13 - 14, all the items are listed as worn and/or worn and soiled.

:eek:

I dunno why Cindy would LIE about washing them. Unless she wanted Casey to THINK she was helping to cover for her when she really wasn't. More of her passive-aggresive behavior in her love-hate relationship with her Daughter.:confused:

[Lavinya]

back in the day, texas prisons used lye soap for inmates..

I wonder if florida uses it?

Yeah, that's what they were using when I worked. These crude pieces of greenish-brown lye soap. The "linens" were about 50 count woven muslin, lol. Rough stuff. No pillow, either unless you used your shoes or something. Rough wool blankets in the winter.

[need2no]

Didn't Lee have acne too as a kid and got very sick from the medication he took for it?

Lee had Thrombocytosis, a condition in which there is an excessive number of platelets in the blood.

[sammy62]

Frankly I can't imagine someone didn't take a picture of the heart shaped residue, that's quite a 'find'. Perhaps the prosecution hasn't located the pic just yet. :wink:

I just hope the Anthony's had purchased a huge box of trash bags so 31plus days later whenever LE took them in as evidence, the bags seized from the house matched the same lot as the ones casey used.
Worst case scenario, there may have only been a few bags left in the box when casey took a couple from it, and the remaining bags were used, thrown out, and a new box was purchased.

I may be wrong, but I thought they didn't do a search warrant until Caylee's body was found. Des...do you know?

[TunaMelt]

Hi Tuna, I just refreshed wftv site and they are going to have more later on their site and on the local news at 5pm.

Oh good.
I can do errands now, and come back later to read.

Thank you Pam!
:seeya:

[Lavinya]

Soiled?

As in dirty or as in... ummm... baby type soiled?

IIRC so many of those items had stains because we noticed most of them were on one side, (can't remember whether it was right or left).

[witchywoman]

Yeah, that's what they were using when I worked. These crude pieces of greenish-brown lye soap. The "linens" were about 50 count woven muslin, lol. Rough stuff. No pillow, either unless you used your shoes or something. Rough wool blankets in the winter.

trust me, i know all about the itchy blankets and the goings on in the big house..( im having flashbacks) lol

was the only time i was ever in trouble..never will happen again...

eta..casey is going to get a big shock...jails are different then prison..mo

I bet she ends up in pc, mo, ya think?

eta, im outty 4 now folks, gotta do some house cleaning..

catch ya'll l8r

[Lavinya]

Lee had Thrombocytosis, a condition in which there is an excessive number of platelets in the blood.

I think it was thrombocytopenia, which is few platelets, n2k.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombocytopenia

[Zarina]

I would think so, he is a notory and an officer of the court.

Thanks for responding to that part of my question I appreciate .

[need2no]

I'm just reading and the heart shaped residue was observed on Q63 ... as per page 27
Latent Prints PDF (http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Stories/Local/latentprints.pdf)

Thanks den, did you see this:


Pg. 29

Q63 attempted to photographically capture image of heart
Unable to do so

:sad:

[Lavinya]

trust me, i know all about the itchy blankets and the goings on in the big house..( im having flashbacks) lol

was the only time i was ever in trouble..never will happen again...

eta..casey is going to get a big shock...jails are different then prison..mo

I bet she ends up in pc, mo, ya think?

eta, im outty 4 now folks, gotta do some house cleaning..

catch ya'll l8r

Yeah, I'm fairly sure she's going to be AD SEG material.

[need2no]

I think it was thrombocytopenia, which is few platelets, n2k.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrombocytopenia

Since you be the nurse, I'll go with that. :smile:

[Pierre]

I may be wrong, but I thought they didn't do a search warrant until Caylee's body was found. Des...do you know?

Im not Des, but they had warrants to search before they found Caylee and a warrant to search the house after finding Caylee.
Des will pull the links right out of her pocket like she always does.

on another note; more alarming then Caseys back is the look on her face and her eyes. there is nobody home in that head of hers.
Casey cannot feel anything for anyone. Malcuso was really onto something.

[sammy62]

Im not Des, but they had warrants to search before they found Caylee and a warrant to search the house after finding Caylee.
Des will pull the links right out of her pocket like she always does.

on another note; more alarming then Caseys back is the look on her face and her eyes. there is nobody home in that head of hers.
Casey cannot feel anything for anyone. Malcuso was really onto something.

thanks Pierre....Can you imagine being 23/24 and knowing you will probably spend the rest of your life in that cell. I've never seen those chains around waist. I wonder if they keep adding links as they need them....:scared::eek: