Michael Vick gets show on BET

[Kat4Eagles]

Check sports link, I can't get mine to work, sorry!!

Kat

[incidentally]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10148784/Report:-Vick-signs-deal-to-endorse-Nike-products

Maybe this one will work, Kat.

Over 80% of people who voted in this poll seem to be in favor of it or at least feel it was inevitable.

[True2Blues]

Makes me glad I don't like their products anyway.

[SavannahStar]

Oh dear God. I am SICKENED. :cursing:

[dinojen]

Moving on... will never wear another Nike product as long as I live.. I find it disgusting anyone would promote him...:cursing:

Guess they have money to throw away... that man disgusts me.. I'm sorry.. everyone deserves a second chance.. that I agree... but to throw money at him and make it seem like all is forgotten.. NO WAY...

Can stand him...:angry:

[Kat4Eagles]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/10148784/Report:-Vick-signs-deal-to-endorse-Nike-products

Maybe this one will work, Kat.

Over 80% of people who voted in this poll seem to be in favor of it or at least feel it was inevitable.



Thanks, I don't know what I did wrong, but thank you for bailing me out.!!

I have mixed feelings about this....

We were talking earlier on the football thread about sports/football being a businessss, but, wow, it sure did not take much time for this to happen........did it?

Nike is really putting itself out there.

I am curious to see what you all think...

Kat

Reading the article further, it states that their relationship was only suspended, and they now have decided to resume it.
It will not disclose how much money is involved.
I do know Michael is in millions of dollars of debt.

[True2Blues]

I can just see the new line of products: Stain resistant shoes with steel toes and cleats for dog killing. Gloves, also stain resistant but guaranteed to leave no fingerprints, for dog killing. Washable, stain resistant, overalls, to protect clothes while killing dogs.

The exclusive Michael Vick line from Nike.

More money for Vick to put into a new animal killing scheme.

[Noah]

I can hardly speak about that man cuz I become too sick to my stomach. Ach.

[Kat4Eagles]

I can hardly speak about that man cuz I become too sick to my stomach. Ach.



Now, Nike is pulling back saying that there is NO endorsement with Vick!!

Wow.

Kat

[SavannahStar]

Now, Nike is pulling back saying that there is NO endorsement with Vick!!

Wow.

Kat

Wow!!!!!!! Do you have a link?

:thumbsup:

[dinojen]

Now, Nike is pulling back saying that there is NO endorsement with Vick!!

Wow.

Kat

Maybe they heard from the sports fans... possibly....

Thank god...:thumbsup:

cnbc.com - 6 hours ago
Nike: We Don't Have Contract With Vick
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Posted By: Darren Rovell A day after an official with the agency that represents Michael Vick told a crowded conference in New York City that Vick had recently re-signed with Nike, a Nike spokesman told CNBC that the company has no agreement with the backup Philadelphia Eagles quarterback. ...


“Nike does not have a contractual relationship with Michael Vick," Nike spokesman Kejuan Wilkins said, in a statement. "We have agreed to supply product to Michael Vick as we do a number of athletes who are not under contract with Nike.”

http://www.cnbc.com/id/33117603





I didn't think Nike was that stupid.... I mean come on.. they have Jordan, Woods, Federer... do they need a dog killer... I think not...:angry:


Love the comments after the article... I knew I wasn't the only one that felt this way....

[birdwatch]

Too bad - some of us were just getting started on creating Nike's new advertising programs..... especially considering the slang word for feet is dogs. Can you just see "Put your dogs in Vick's shoes: it'll change their life" or
M. Vick says "treat your dogs like I treat mine". Uh... maybe not.

[Noah]

Now, Nike is pulling back saying that there is NO endorsement with Vick!!

Wow.

Kat


Oh Yay!! :thumbsup:

[5boxersmom]

I came here to post that I would never buy another pair of Nike's then I seen the other post.

I hope it is true.

[dinojen]

I came here to post that I would never buy another pair of Nike's then I seen the other post.

I hope it is true.

It's true Mom.. made me very happy to hear. Nike is only supplying athletic equip. like they do to many other players.. he has no financial contract with Nike..:thumbsup:

I didn't think they would be that STUPID..


Could you see one of Nike's commercial's with Federer, Woods and Vick?

[True2Blues]

It's true Mom.. made me very happy to hear. Nike is only supplying athletic equip. like they do to many other players.. he has no financial contract with Nike..:thumbsup:

I didn't think they would be that STUPID..


Could you see one of Nike's commercial's with Federer, Woods and Vick?

If they ever considered hiring Vick back, they will think again now. Good for Nike. I have more respect for them now then I did before this even came up.

[Kat4Eagles]

Wow!!!!!!! Do you have a link?

:thumbsup:

I am so bad with links, I try hard too.
I can never learn how to do it right.
:(
Kat

[True2Blues]

Now, Vick will be the star of his own Documentary series on BET. Just when I thought it couldn't get any more sickening.




http://content.usatoday.com/communities/pawprintpost/post/2009/10/michael-vick-gets-his-own-tv-show-on-bet/1

[Shoshanna]

http://www.examiner.com/x-26160-Toledo-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2009m10d7-Michael-Vick-reality-show-coming-in-2010

[Spyder88]

barf

I'll worry about forgiving that ignorant thug when he puts his time and money where his mouth is.

[Spyder88]

Funny isn't it .. others who have been convicted of white collar crimes are accepted back into society without the blink of an eye.
Double standard? Nah. Not in this country.

I, and many others, couldn't care less what color his collar is, quite frankly. He's an abuser of animals and likes to give his VD to unsuspecting women. Nice guy who learned his lesson? I highly doubt it. So stop trying to make like he's a beleaguered pillar of our society, because that's the LAST thing he is.

Maybe you two should get together and swill down a few vodka martini's to help you both learn how to deal with the unfairness of it all and while you're at it, get some more pitbulls to torture.

Nothing like a bloody, vicious dog fight, some booze and a little gambling to brighten up a dull day. :rolleyes:

[TBIBeg]

Funny isn't it .. others who have been convicted of white collar crimes are accepted back into society without the blink of an eye.
Double standard? Nah. Not in this country.

In my book, you never get a pass for :


A: Harming children
B: Harming animals

I don't care if you're rainbow striped.

'White collar crimes" are generally considered financial crimes with no real victims. How dare you call this a white collar crime.

JMO

[Roux]

In my book, you never get a pass for :


A: Harming children
B: Harming animals

I don't care if you're rainbow striped.

'White collar crimes" are generally considered financial crimes with no real victims. How dare you call this a white collar crime.

JMO

ITA with you. I can't understand people who are so wrapped up in their adoration of sports figures or entertainment figures that they don't care how despicable their actions -- Vick and Polanski being two current examples.

[Marcia3]

In my book, you never get a pass for :


A: Harming children
B: Harming animals

I don't care if you're rainbow striped.

'White collar crimes" are generally considered financial crimes with no real victims. How dare you call this a white collar crime.

JMO

I don't know Vick, all I can do is wait to see if his actions in the future appear to be in line with his words of apology. But he victimized some of God's most defenseless creatures (because we have bred them that way). May God have mercy on his soul if he continues to abuse those creatures...IMO.

Color has nothing to do with whether or not someone should be punished for their crimes, but the severity of the crime is what should determine the penalty.

Rich and powerful in this country = freedom from living with the consequences of your decisions.

Then again, sooner or later, it catches up with everyone, no matter how high their status as determined by man.

[crocdog1]

Funny isn't it .. others who have been convicted of white collar crimes are accepted back into society without the blink of an eye.
Double standard? Nah. Not in this country.

"Others who have been convicted of white collar crimes" did not steal innocent pet dogs, muzzle them, and throw them into pits with fighting dogs to be slaughtered.

Those that survived were murdered in the most horrific and painful manner, such as physically being bodily slammed into the ground.

No matter what color the collar is, I consider this to be animal abuse in the most evil manner.

If you consider this to be a DOUBLE STANDARD, then so be it.

Just My Humble Opinion

[True2Blues]

This is sick making. Dog killers so need more publicity.:rolleyes:

[bkwits]

IMO, Michael Vick has gotten far more forgiveness and acceptance into his previous professional and celebrity life than he deserves. NFL should not have reinstated him so quickly. Philadelphia should not have hired him. Words are cheap. How he lives his life from now on will be the proof of his remorse for torturing and killing dogs for his amusement and for the amusement of others. Shame on you, Michael Vick. And Shame of the NFL. :thumbdown:

[withay]

I think that Michael Vick needs to prove that he has changed before I am ready to forgive and forget. I accept and understand that people make horrible mistakes and are capable of changing. But I need a little time and see some actions before I am able to move on from my disgust at his actions. And I don't think paying him large amounts of money for him to show us he has changed is necessary. Time will tell if he has really changed. I doubt I will be watching his show....I am not a fan of reality shows anyhow.

[Spyder88]

wow. This is cool. everybody deserves a second chance. people who kill people get second chances, why shouldn't MV?
Dogs are not more valuable than a person., especially a pit bull.
Good luck MV.

I don't like murderer's, either. I don't care how long they stay in the slammer, if they kill someone and get out, I'm not happy about it. They don't deserve to be let loose on society a second time. That is my not so humble opinion.

People ARE more valuable than a dog, and I defy you to show me a poster on here who ever said such a thing. That doesn't mean, however, that someone should be able to torture dogs for their own perverse, blood-thristy, fun and games and go blithly on their way to more wrack and ruin. Everytime I see Vicks face my stomach knots up. What a creepy thing he is.

Your comment "especially a pit bull" is interesting. You DO realize that it's the Michael Vick's of the world who are continually breeding the worst traits ANY breed could have into their pitbull stock, don't you?

They may keep the most aggressive in the litter to raise and train for the pit, but the rest are sold to other idiots just like him. Ooooo, this is one of MV's Pitbull's! Oooooo, a real Badazz dog. ooooooo, gonna breed this one to my bro's best fighter...

You know it's his kind who can take full and complete responsibility for turning a decent animal into something unstable and aggressive, right? You do know that, don't you? Logic and biology 101 should clarify that sort of thing to anyone who can read.

For any pitbull that has ever bitten or killed someone, you can look into the eyes of your beloved MV and see what kind of man it takes to breed such frightenly aggressive animals. Look deep into the eyes of such a 'man' because there you will see death.

So...you just go ahead and keep your second chance super hero. I see nothing in him to emulate or admire. Nothing.

[Spyder88]

wow. somebody got their panties in a bunch. never said i admired him, so please don't put words in my mouth. what i said was everyone deserves a second chance once they have paid their dues to society. mv served prison time. he's out. he deserves a second chance. period.
as for looking into the eyes of a pit bull that would definitely be a death sentence - for me.

Wow. NOW who's panties are in a bunch? :rolleyes: I never said you said anything of the sort, so don't put words in MY mouth. You did mention how "cool" it was. Is it cool when murderers and child molesters get out for their second and third and fourth chances, too?

If you ever end up looking into the eyes of a pitbull who is attacking you, you'd be getting getting your death sentence from the pitbull's owner/s/handler/s and breeder/s.

If you're in harm's way from any animal, it's the owner/handler's fault. No one else's. Certainly not the dogs.

If you're in harm's way because an animal became unstable and attacked "out of the blue" it's the owner/handler/breeder's fault.

To blame a dog that has been owned and bred by men like Vick is ludicrous and foolish. I suggest people educate themselves on pitbulls before they go off half-cocked and screaming how ALL pitbulls are dangerous killers.

Once again, I'm telling you that you can keep your second-chance hero. It's not cool to me. Not in the least. He's a thug.

[crocdog1]

wow. This is cool. everybody deserves a second chance. people who kill people get second chances, why shouldn't MV?
Dogs are not more valuable than a person., especially a pit bull.
Good luck MV.

Yeah, everybody deserves a second chance.

Especially those who engage the slaughter of pet dogs as do those in the dog fighting business.

They steal pet dogs from yards, cars, LOST DOG NOTICES, and anywhere else they can find them for purposes of giving their fighting dogs a "tune-up" for the real thing.

They even get some from advertisements in the newspapers.

They have to muzzle the pets so that they do not cosmetically damage their fighters.

Those poor dogs that survive the slaughter are then murdered in the most horrific manner by these criminals. Sometimes their mangled, torn and bloodied bodies are body slammed to the ground.

Great sport, huh?

[5boxersmom]

This makes me sick. He just keeps on getting rewarded. No I do not think he is sorry. He is just sorry he got caught. He should have known it was wrong what he did to the dogs. Why did he need to be told it was wrong? He did it over and over for years.

Is he donating all the money from the Reality Show to the SPCA? I doubt it.

jmo

[birdwatch]

This makes me sick. He just keeps on getting rewarded. No I do not think he is sorry. He is just sorry he got caught. He should have known it was wrong what he did to the dogs. Why did he need to be told it was wrong? He did it over and over for years.

Is he donating all the money from the Reality Show to the SPCA? I doubt it.

jmo Doubt it - he owes a lot of people a lot of money. Many innocent people lost a lot of money making loans to his various enterprises, or doing work for this deadbeat. The AJC reported he bought a $99,000 car the day he went to jail. The Falcons want the bonus money he didn't earn back and are settling for pennies on the dollar. He owes about 20 million - probably more, but people are settling. He is unlikely to be able to pay all that back just playing football. What I want to see - among other things -is how hard he tries to pay back the people he owes.

[Hanalei]

I'm not Christian so I don't have to forgive him he is scum and it's one reality show I won't be watching. I hope it has poor ratings so their won't be a season 2. The only network I can see having it is BET and I just checked and I was right.:tongue: Stupid BET! I'm going to have to fire off a hate email to them.


LOL Yeaaaahhhh

Some people are willing to forgive and forget, once a person had paid their dues.
It's the Christian way. No disrespect to anyone else or their religion, but can you imagine a society that harbors grudges??
Forgiveness is not for the person who committed the crime..it's for you.
Your heart will be clear and free...the criminal will have to live with their crime..not you.

[pixiejoolz]

LOL Yeaaaahhhh

Some people are willing to forgive and forget, once a person had paid their dues.
It's the Christian way. No disrespect to anyone else or their religion, but can you imagine a society that harbors grudges??
Forgiveness is not for the person who committed the crime..it's for you.
Your heart will be clear and free...the criminal will have to live with their crime..not you.

Society doesn't harbor grudges. Society is made up of individuals with individual beliefs and opinions.

My opinion is that "forgiveness" has nothing to do with this. Michael Vick has paid his debt to society according to some very lax laws, and he is and always will be - imo - a disgusting, conscienceless brute, valued only because he's good at violence.

BTW, some criminals who commit atrocious crimes live quite happily, with clear, free hearts. They're called sociopaths. jmo

[Spyder88]

Society doesn't harbor grudges. Society is made up of individuals with individual beliefs and opinions.

My opinion is that "forgiveness" has nothing to do with this. Michael Vick has paid his debt to society according to some very lax laws, and he is and always will be - imo - a disgusting, conscienceless brute, valued only because he's good at violence.

BTW, some criminals who commit atrocious crimes live quite happily, with clear, free hearts. They're called sociopaths. jmo

Great post, pixiejoolz! Your last comment describes Vick to a T. :beer:

[pixiejoolz]

Great post, pixiejoolz! Your last comment describes Vick to a T. :beer:

TY Spyder. Just noticed your tag line and it made me laugh.:thumbup:

[Rangerx1]

More facts:

http://www.dogwatch.net/fight_ontario_ban/pit_bull_facts.html


'Pit Bull Facts'

A lot has been said about 'pit bulls'. That they are time bombs. That they were bred to fight. That they are unreliable.

Before you make up your mind about whether or not a 'pit bull' ban is justified you owe it to the breeds affected to learn the truth.

Fact: It is true that the 'pit bull' was originally bred to fight - other dogs. However the dogs lived at home as a family pet in the late 1800s and lived in the house with the wives and children of the men who fought their dogs for sport, so they needed to be absolutely reliable around people. Dogs that showed human aggression were culled - that means they were euthanized and never bred from. These actions have evolved a unique dog personality where animal aggression has absolutlely no correlation to human aggression.

Fact: There are quite a few celebrities who have owned one of the 'pit bull' breeds that Michael Bryant would ban in Ontario: Ray Romano, Don Cherry, Fred Astaire, President Roosevelt, Jack Dempsy, Thomas Edison, Madonna, Michael J Fox, Brad Pitt, Bernadette Peters, Sinbad, Alicia Silverstone, Linda Blair, Humphrey Bogart, Usher, Mel Brooks, Ann Bancroft, John Stuart, Jan Michael Vincent, Pink, Kelli Williams, Ken Howard (Father in Crossing Jordon - his Pit Shadow saved his life), Malcolm Jamal Warner, Stephan Jenkins, Rosie Perez, Ananda Lewis, Amy Jo Johnson, Mary Tyler Moore, Steve and Terrie Erwin (the Crocodile Hunter), Jack Johnson, Bill Berloni (Broadway show dog trainer who has said that the Pit is the breed of choice for training), Anthony Robbins, Molly Price, President Woodrow Wilson, Frankie Muniz, AJ Mclean, Barbara Eden, and even Helen Keller.

Fact: Dog fighting was outlawed in the early 1900's. Since that time the breeds that go back to the original 'pit bull' of the early 1800s has been raised as a family pet, not a fighter.

Fact: The only people raising fighting dogs today are a small contigent (est. 1-2%) of criminals and gang members - these people are also selling drugs, carry guns and are a threat to society on many different levels. Breed bans will not stop these people or curb the danger they pose in our society.

Fact: According to Alfons Estelt of the American Temperament Test Society, Inc. temperament evaluations of American Pit Bull Terriers shows that this breed has a very high passing rate of 95%. The average passing rate for the other 121 breeds of dogs in the tests: 77%.

Fact: The 'pit bull' does not have a 'locking jaw'. On this topic Dr. 1. Lehr Brisbin of the University of Georgia wrote:
"The few studies which have been conducted of the structure of the skulls, mandibles and teeth of pit bulls show that, in proportion to their size, their jaw structure and thus its inferred functional morphology, is no different than that of any breed of dog. There is absolutely no evidence for the existence of any kind of "locking mechanism" unique to the structure of the jaw and/or teeth of the American Pit Bull Terrier."

Fact: 'Pit bulls' are therapy and service dogs. They are also involved in search and rescue. The Chako Rescue Association has Pit Bull therapy dogs in Texas, Utah and California. Cheyenne and Dakota are a team of hard-working Search-and-Rescue Pit Bulls in Sacramento, California. APBT Weela was the Ken-L Ration's Dog Hero of the Year and is credited with rescuing over 30 people.

Fact: The problem with 'pit bull' attacks is an ownership problem that will not go away if we ban 'pit bulls'. Politicians are distorting the truth and are ignoring all of the evidence that says the bad owners will simply switch to other breeds - and there are many for them to choose from that can be equally as dangerous as a 'pit bull'. Ontario needs strong dog laws that apply to all dogs equally.


Last night at obedience class my beagle acted worse than the "vicious" pitbull that was at class. I'm working on socialization with him and he lunged at an APBT there. He was corrected. The pit didn't even flinch. Just remained calm even when threatened or whenever any of the other dogs came up to her. I guess that is their vicious genetic nature? And if you want to state statistics, don't you think it would also be relavent to include how many breeds and cross-breeds end up under the label of "pit bull"?

I think what amazes me the most is that you talk about how vicious a breed is and from what you've had to say, you'd have no issue with exterminating a breed. But at the same time, you will now give a free pass to disturbed individual that had no issues with training these dogs to be just what you're against for many years. Torturing the dogs to death. Killing innocent dogs that were used as "bait". And after all this and more, you think it's great that he goes back to celebrity status and to be a hero to children. He can have a 2nd chance like anyone else, but keep it out of the public eye.

[Spyder88]

Pit bulls have maimed and killed many innocent people.
Their vicious nature is genetic.
They should not be allowed to roam free among the unsuspecting public.

I hate and fear those dogs, and if i ever see one near a loved one of mine heaven help it.
Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown has shared my sentiments on many occasion and have posted statistical charts to support their verdicts.
People who have children should never allow these mentally ill beasts near their precious loved ones.


http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html

According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question.

:rolleyes:

Education is your friend.

Just boil it down honey. It's not the breed, it's the owner/handler/breeders who need to be held accountable for their animal's behavior. Selective breeding is what got us our domesticated dogs in the first place. It's not the dog, it's the human.

[Hanalei]

I don't own anything with Nike on it and will never buy it now that they took back the scumbag. He is such a loser he won't even visit the dogs he treated so bad. I hate him so much I really hope my Chargers take him out when we play him!:cursing:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-vick-pitbull&prov=ap&type=lgns


Check sports link, I can't get mine to work, sorry!!

Kat

[Hanalei]

Those dogs don't just attack people without the help of losers like Michael Vick to train them to be that way. I had a rottie for 14 yrs never hurt a fly scared a few but never bit or attacked anyone.

Pit bulls have maimed and killed many innocent people.
Their vicious nature is genetic.
They should not be allowed to roam free among the unsuspecting public.

I hate and fear those dogs, and if i ever see one near a loved one of mine heaven help it.
Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown has shared my sentiments on many occasion and have posted statistical charts to support their verdicts.
People who have children should never allow these mentally ill beasts near their precious loved ones.


http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html

According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question.

[Noah]

They should not be allowed to roam free among the unsuspecting public.

NO dog should be allowed to roam free among the unsuspecting public. ANY dog is capable of biting.

Do I think my dogs will bite anyone? No!

Do I make darn sure my dogs won't bite anyone? Yes!!

My husband gets Home Health physical therapy. Today our therapist had to cancel because she was attacked by the dog at the home she went to before ours.

The dog came tearing around from the back yard, jumped up on the front porch and ripped her leg open. She had to go to the ER, get stitches and tetanus shot.

It was a fairly good-sized dog and she said if it had gotten her to the ground, she'd probably have been chewed up even worse.

It was a black lab.

[Marcia3]

I don't like murderer's, either. I don't care how long they stay in the slammer, if they kill someone and get out, I'm not happy about it. They don't deserve to be let loose on society a second time. That is my not so humble opinion.

People ARE more valuable than a dog, and I defy you to show me a poster on here who ever said such a thing. That doesn't mean, however, that someone should be able to torture dogs for their own perverse, blood-thristy, fun and games and go blithly on their way to more wrack and ruin. Everytime I see Vicks face my stomach knots up. What a creepy thing he is.

Your comment "especially a pit bull" is interesting. You DO realize that it's the Michael Vick's of the world who are continually breeding the worst traits ANY breed could have into their pitbull stock, don't you?

They may keep the most aggressive in the litter to raise and train for the pit, but the rest are sold to other idiots just like him. Ooooo, this is one of MV's Pitbull's! Oooooo, a real Badazz dog. ooooooo, gonna breed this one to my bro's best fighter...

You know it's his kind who can take full and complete responsibility for turning a decent animal into something unstable and aggressive, right? You do know that, don't you? Logic and biology 101 should clarify that sort of thing to anyone who can read.

For any pitbull that has ever bitten or killed someone, you can look into the eyes of your beloved MV and see what kind of man it takes to breed such frightenly aggressive animals. Look deep into the eyes of such a 'man' because there you will see death.

So...you just go ahead and keep your second chance super hero. I see nothing in him to emulate or admire. Nothing.

Precisely! ITA with absolutely everything you've said! And I love the way you said it!

[Hanalei]

Nothing makes me more steamed then people like you that post comments likes this. Sorry I believe the dogs are WAY more important then loser Vick. If I had my way the guy would be making $5 hr cleaning animal cages.

wow. This is cool. everybody deserves a second chance. people who kill people get second chances, why shouldn't MV?
Dogs are not more valuable than a person., especially a pit bull.
Good luck MV.

[Hanalei]

I'm with you anyone that thinks it's cool that a dog killer gets a second chance is sick in the head!


Wow. NOW who's panties are in a bunch? :rolleyes: I never said you said anything of the sort, so don't put words in MY mouth. You did mention how "cool" it was. Is it cool when murderers and child molesters get out for their second and third and fourth chances, too?

If you ever end up looking into the eyes of a pitbull who is attacking you, you'd be getting getting your death sentence from the pitbull's owner/s/handler/s and breeder/s.

If you're in harm's way from any animal, it's the owner/handler's fault. No one else's. Certainly not the dogs.

If you're in harm's way because an animal became unstable and attacked "out of the blue" it's the owner/handler/breeder's fault.

To blame a dog that has been owned and bred by men like Vick is ludicrous and foolish. I suggest people educate themselves on pitbulls before they go off half-cocked and screaming how ALL pitbulls are dangerous killers.

Once again, I'm telling you that you can keep your second-chance hero. It's not cool to me. Not in the least. He's a thug.

[Hanalei]

http://www.badrap.org/rescue/myths.cfm

Read up Sherrybaby

[Hanalei]

Calling these dogs mentally ill is crazy! If you were put thru what Vicks dogs went thru do you think you would be sane? If you have kids I guess you will have to lock them up in the house for all their life because people are dangerous too and so are cars so are you not going to let your kids around people and cars? What about the flu that's another dangerous thing more then dogs!

http://www.unitedjustice.com/death-statistics.html


Pit bulls have maimed and killed many innocent people.
Their vicious nature is genetic.
They should not be allowed to roam free among the unsuspecting public.

I hate and fear those dogs, and if i ever see one near a loved one of mine heaven help it.
Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown has shared my sentiments on many occasion and have posted statistical charts to support their verdicts.
People who have children should never allow these mentally ill beasts near their precious loved ones.


http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html

According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question.

[ABC]

Pit bulls have maimed and killed many innocent people.
Their vicious nature is genetic.
They should not be allowed to roam free among the unsuspecting public.

I hate and fear those dogs, and if i ever see one near a loved one of mine heaven help it.
Judge Judy and Judge Joe Brown has shared my sentiments on many occasion and have posted statistical charts to support their verdicts.
People who have children should never allow these mentally ill beasts near their precious loved ones.


http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html

According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question.

I agree totally with this post. In the past year we have had many attacks from these breeds in our city. I think the breed should be eradicated for everyone's safety. Googling Pit Bull mauls and/or kills shows the true nature of these dogs. And yes, all the dogs were just sweet and loves prior to killing the baby, child or adult and the attacks came out of the blue. Very sad.
I don't give a hoot about Vick, his show and certainly will exercise my first Amendment Right to not watch it.
I do care that these mean vicious dogs are running around mauling and killing folks and animals.

[ABC]

http://www.badrap.org/rescue/myths.cfm

Read up Sherrybaby

Actually, Googling Pit Bulls Maul/kill people/kids/babies and read up the true nature of these dogs.

[Spyder88]

Actually, Googling Pit Bulls Maul/kill people/kids/babies and read up the true nature of these dogs.

There was a reason that the Our Gang series had a Staffordshire Terrier aka pitbull as a mascot. They were, and for the most part still are a loyal friend to all members of the family.

Considering that so many pitbulls have been bred by idiots like Vick for all the wrong reasons, I think it's pretty amazing the "statistics" regarding their viciousness isn't higher. That tells me the pitbull was and still is BY NATURE, a very loving and loyal animal.

The sooner we make the owner/handler/breeders accountable for their animals, the better off ALL dogs will be.

[Grayson]

Let me tell you BET has real high standards. Maybe they can air this after their gangster rap videos, followed by their pathetic PSA's about gang violence, even though thattheir target audience is teens through 30 year olds. :cursing:

[Rangerx1]

To all the people that think eliminating pit bulls is the answer, what do you really think that will acheive? Do you think the people bredding dogs for aggression and fighting will stop? If all pit bull breeds disappeared tomorrow, they'd move on to another "tough guy" image dog. It would all start over. In reality though, laws will only affect the people that bring these dogs up right and treat them correctly. Those breaking the law will just continue. But people seem to feel they are accomplishing something by blaming the breed and not the people that do it harm.

I've owned pit bulls and also would work with the bullies that came through the shelter I was volunteering at. I never had a problem with any of them. Yes, when you first go up to one of them in the pens, they'd be afraid and would bark. No more than any other dog that is scared and confused living at a shelter. And I'd treat them all the same to calm them down and take them for their walks. Funny how reality really works out.

[Spyder88]

To all the people that think eliminating pit bulls is the answer, what do you really think that will acheive? Do you think the people bredding dogs for aggression and fighting will stop? If all pit bull breeds disappeared tomorrow, they'd move on to another "tough guy" image dog. It would all start over. In reality though, laws will only affect the people that bring these dogs up right and treat them correctly. Those breaking the law will just continue. But people seem to feel they are accomplishing something by blaming the breed and not the people that do it harm.

I've owned pit bulls and also would work with the bullies that came through the shelter I was volunteering at. I never had a problem with any of them. Yes, when you first go up to one of them in the pens, they'd be afraid and would bark. No more than any other dog that is scared and confused living at a shelter. And I'd treat them all the same to calm them down and take them for their walks. Funny how reality really works out.

God bless you, Ranger. A voice of reason and the experience to back it up. I know you'll be the recipient of big, wet, sloppy kisses from your canine pals. :wub:

:rose:

[september]

The National Felons League are just running true to form.....reinstating Vick is unforgivable.
Nikie will never see a penny from me.

BET is a hood network and I expected no more of them. There audience is made up of thugs and gang members that love dog fighting. And I bet we will all be surprised when some kids set another teen on fire for being a "snitch". They see outrageous behavior being rewarded. :cursing:

Thank God I don't have to live near them.

[ABC]

The National Felons League are just running true to form.....reinstating Vick is unforgivable.
Nikie will never see a penny from me.

BET is a hood network and I expected no more of them. There audience is made up of thugs and gang members that love dog fighting. And I bet we will all be surprised when some kids set another teen on fire for being a "snitch". They see outrageous behavior being rewarded. :cursing:

Thank God I don't have to live near them.
Don't you know that the NFL are "Heroes" now that they looked unfavorably on Rush buying a team? :laugh:

[5boxersmom]

:thumbsup:http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Biggs-Animal-shelter-sacking-Vick-in-newspaper-ads.html