Tuesday 10/06

[MomofaMarine]

NANCY GRACE

Misty Croslin Heads to Orlando Again

Aired October 5, 2009 - 20:00:00 ET


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/05/ng.01.html

[MomofaMarine]

From BLOG



MISTY CUMMINGS SPEAKS TO ME EXCLUSIVLEY: RONALD CUMMINGS FILES FOR DIVORCE
October 5, 2009 by Steph


http://stephww.wordpress.com/

[Themis]

Could we please make it a routine practice that when starting a new thread for a new date to add a post that a 'new thread has been started' on the previous day's thread?

Just as a matter of courtesy and respect for other posters who are not on eastern time.

TIA. [JMO * Themis]

[MomofaMarine]

Eight months later, hope for Haleigh remains strong


http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091006/ARTICLES/910061002/1002?Title=Eight-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-

[MomofaMarine]

Exclusive: Divorce Looms for Misty, Ronald Cummings?


http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/06/exclusive-divorce-looms-for-misty-ronald-cummings/

[Elle]

Eight months later, hope for Haleigh remains strong


http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091006/ARTICLES/910061002/1002?Title=Eight-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-


Good morning and thank you

from article
"This has become part of us now. We want to find Haleigh and bring her home to her family, and whatever it takes, we're going to do it."

Godspeed

[penny]

NANCY GRACE

Misty Croslin Heads to Orlando Again

Aired October 5, 2009 - 20:00:00 ET


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0910/05/ng.01.html

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone know where I can find the u-tube links to the NG show?

MomofaMarine - thank you for all the links and you must me a very proud mom and you have every right to be.

[Texas48]

I know there were concerns from a few posters that Misty and Ron were the LAST ppl to see HaLeigh after she got off the bus on Monday afternoon..Feb 9th...
Lt Greenwood goes on record..

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091006/ARTICLES/910061002/1002?Title=Eight-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-

[Lynn Gweeny]

The Sheriff's Office has one primary investigator assigned to the case. Members of the agency's Major Crimes Unit, who meet daily, are briefed on the case to see if there is a need to conduct an interview or search. And a Florida Department of Law Enforcement agent, working out of the Sheriff's Office, reviews tips to check that deputies haven't missed anything.

A homicide investigator also is assigned to the investigation.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091006/ARTICLES/910061002/1002?Title=Eight-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-

[Texas48]

The Sheriff's Office has one primary investigator assigned to the case. Members of the agency's Major Crimes Unit, who meet daily, are briefed on the case to see if there is a need to conduct an interview or search. And a Florida Department of Law Enforcement agent, working out of the Sheriff's Office, reviews tips to check that deputies haven't missed anything.

A homicide investigator also is assigned to the investigation.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091006/ARTICLES/910061002/1002?Title=Eight-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-
Ahhhhh Lynn...here you are..finally. Several of us wondered what had happened to you..good to see ya back and TY for the links...you have been missed.

[Elle]

.

I personally find her reaction to be very strange, yes kids hide, but its freaking 4am and she states she hears screaming and yelling for Haleigh...I don't get it.
I wonder if Tommy had been over at all earlier or if there were any phonecalls between Timmy and Tommy that evening, especially after Ron called Tommy's house.
She also speaks of the van, how she parks it. I always park my car the same way, I am kind of quirky that way, but I always know if my husband has driven it last as I know how I leave it, position of the seat, stearing wheel ect. She stated it was not how she left it.

imoo

[Lynn Gweeny]

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone know where I can find the u-tube links to the NG show?

MomofaMarine - thank you for all the links and you must me a very proud mom and you have every right to be.

The NG show YouTube videos are usually posted online by Sierra1947 and can be found here but have not been uploaded yet:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

[Texas48]

Misty did go to Orlando with a friend and, before they left, they stopped by the Putnam County Sherrif’s Dept. to check in. Misty told the police where they were going, even giving them the address and phone numbers of where she can be reached

[Elle]

Who are these certain people that are now safe and away from what they percieved as a dangerous situation?

[Texas48]

I know there were concerns from a few posters that Misty and Ron were the LAST ppl to see HaLeigh after she got off the bus on Monday afternoon..Feb 9th...
Lt Greenwood goes on record..

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091006/ARTICLES/910061002/1002?Title=Eight-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-

Going to quote my own post..LOL..
Just dawned on me that in this article where the Lt. says that another reative saw HaLeigh after she got off the bus......the LT, never mentions the a/c man...Does this mean..Mr. a/c man did NOT see HaLeigh or was this just left out of the article and by Lt. Greenwood..for a reason..?

[penny]

I know there were concerns from a few posters that Misty and Ron were the LAST ppl to see HaLeigh after she got off the bus on Monday afternoon..Feb 9th...
Lt Greenwood goes on record..

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091006/ARTICLES/910061002/1002?Title=Eight-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-

Are you talking about the 7:00 p.m. siting that we all know was GGS? If so, that is something we have known for a long time. If not, please let me know what you mean. TIA

[penny]

The NG show YouTube videos are usually posted online by Sierra1947 and can be found here but have not been uploaded yet:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Sierra1947

Thank you, I did not know that but I will keep watching for them this morning.

[MagicPool]

Morning All.....Here's HOPING HaLeigh comes home today!

I just have 2 things to say about this one......

1. NOT an exclusive if someone else is reporting it (and did it first)
2. The other authors names is STEPH Watts...not Seth.

And then we wonder why we get so confused as the days go on!

JMO

[Elle]

BBM
I'm glad it wasn't just me Elle..I was taken a bit back when I read it..

It is weird IMO. Get a call at 4am, Haleigh's gone, yelling going on and you just kind of kick back for a bit? 'Realized' it was serious?? I don't know. 'They' lay in bed for an hour or so. I had assumed it was her and Timmy, and by the statement it IMO implies they were awake, but then she states when 'we' realized it was serious she woke up Timmy, so he was sleeping and not what I would think of as just 'laying' in bed...who is the 'we'?
I wonder if I am just getting hung up on phrasing and wording that I would not use, or if I did it would mean something different?
imoo

[penny]

I would like to know what others think about the following.

1. This "friend" of Misty's is wired by LE every time they go to Orlando together.

I doubt it - but, my wishful thinking says - Yes

2. LE is wiring the room that Misty and her friend are staying at.

Yes, I think this is a very good possibility and I can hope this is happening. I do have enough faith in LE for them to find out somehow where they are staying.

Oh, on second thought - Can LE wire this person or the hotel room or do they need more in order to legally do the above?..LOL.. I thought I was on to something but now I am not so sure.

[Elle]

Going to quote my own post..LOL..
Just dawned on me that in this article where the Lt. says that another reative saw HaLeigh after she got off the bus......the LT, never mentions the a/c man...Does this mean..Mr. a/c man did NOT see HaLeigh or was this just left out of the article and by Lt. Greenwood..for a reason..?

Yea, I caught that too. While it is not my belief that Annette would lie or is mistaken. I would like to know if anyone other than family saw Haleigh. And what about the neighbor that saw her outside playing, I did not see mention of him/her either.
imoo

[penny]

It is weird IMO. Get a call at 4am, Haleigh's gone, yelling going on and you just kind of kick back for a bit? 'Realized' it was serious?? I don't know. 'They' lay in bed for an hour or so. I had assumed it was her and Timmy, and by the statement it IMO implies they were awake, but then she states when 'we' realized it was serious she woke up Timmy, so he was sleeping and not what I would think of as just 'laying' in bed...who is the 'we'?
I wonder if I am just getting hung up on phrasing and wording that I would not use, or if I did it would mean something different?
imoo

I agree with you except for one thing - is the "we" in the AH article? If so, I am glad that he keeps reporting on Haleigh, but in all honesty that could be AH mistake.

I do admit though, the whole article was strange to me. Chelsea said some strange things..imo. Haleigh hiding at 4:00 a.m.? Not waking up Timmy until 6:00 a.m.? I know they were several other things that caught my eye but it is to early in the morning to remember everything.

[MagicPool]

I would like to know what others think about the following.

1. This "friend" of Misty's is wired by LE every time they go to Orlando together.

I doubt it - but, my wishful thinking says - Yes

2. LE is wiring the room that Misty and her friend are staying at.

Yes, I think this is a very good possibility and I can hope this is happening. I do have enough faith in LE for them to find out somehow where they are staying.

Oh, on second thought - Can LE wire this person or the hotel room or do they need more in order to legally do the above?..LOL.. I thought I was on to something but now I am not so sure.

The "Friend" could be an informant. On NG last night they said this person had befriended Misty within the last year. When LE began getting frustrated that Misty probably knew more than she was telling, did they send in someone to befriend her and gain her trust? Is it possible thats why at times it seems like LE is dragging their feet?

[Texas48]

I would like to know what others think about the following.

1. This "friend" of Misty's is wired by LE every time they go to Orlando together.

I doubt it - but, my wishful thinking says - Yes

2. LE is wiring the room that Misty and her friend are staying at.

Yes, I think this is a very good possibility and I can hope this is happening. I do have enough faith in LE for them to find out somehow where they are staying.

Oh, on second thought - Can LE wire this person or the hotel room or do they need more in order to legally do the above?..LOL.. I thought I was on to something but now I am not so sure.BBM
IF you read the article you would see that Misty went to LE and told them where she would be staying and even gave a phone number..NO reason for them to *find her*...

[Texas48]

It is weird IMO. Get a call at 4am, Haleigh's gone, yelling going on and you just kind of kick back for a bit? 'Realized' it was serious?? I don't know. 'They' lay in bed for an hour or so. I had assumed it was her and Timmy, and by the statement it IMO implies they were awake, but then she states when 'we' realized it was serious she woke up Timmy, so he was sleeping and not what I would think of as just 'laying' in bed...who is the 'we'?
I wonder if I am just getting hung up on phrasing and wording that I would not use, or if I did it would mean something different?
imoo
Elle....do you recall where Timmy and Chelsea were staying the night/morning HaLeigh went missing..anyone?

[penny]

The "Friend" could be an informant. On NG last night they said this person had befriended Misty within the last year. When LE began getting frustrated that Misty probably knew more than she was telling, did they send in someone to befriend her and gain her trust? Is it possible thats why at times it seems like LE is dragging their feet?

I am glad I am not the only one that thinks this could be happening.

[Elle]

I agree with you except for one thing - is the "we" in the AH article? If so, I am glad that he keeps reporting on Haleigh, but in all honesty that could be AH mistake.

I do admit though, the whole article was strange to me. Chelsea said some strange things..imo. Haleigh hiding at 4:00 a.m.? Not waking up Timmy until 6:00 a.m.? I know they were several other things that caught my eye but it is to early in the morning to remember everything.

lol, yea, I probably jumped the gun a bit on that one.

I am with you, it was strange.
imoo

[penny]

lol, yea, I probably jumped the gun a bit on that one.

I am with you, it was strange.
imoo

No, Elle I don't think you jumped the gun. I will be honest I thought about the " we " also but then I thought about AH and I just don't know. Also, AH could have meant " we " so, you could be right. I defiantly think it is something to think about...imo.

I will always admire AH or anyone that keeps Haleigh's name out there as long as they do not intentionally mislead the public. If AH put " we " and it should have said " I ", then I honestly do not think AH would have done that on purpose, but sometimes it is hard for me to go along with every word he types...kwim?

[penny]

BBM
IF you read the article you would see that Misty went to LE and told them where she would be staying and even gave a phone number..NO reason for them to *find her*...

Oh, I am sorry - I think I see what you are saying.

I did read the article and in my mind I was thinking the phone number would tell them where they were staying. I need more coffee and I need to wake up a little before typing anything else, I think. My brain is not working with my fingers this morning...lol.

I am sorry that I missed what you were saying, but at the same time I wish you would not have accused me of NOT reading something.

BBL - before I make another mistake and someone rudely points it out.

[Elle]

Elle....do you recall where Timmy and Chelsea were staying the night/morning HaLeigh went missing..anyone?

I had thought they were in their own home and that Joe O. was spending the night with them. So now there is Ron calling Tommy's house, Tommy stating he was asked to go over and check on Misty ( I personally do not buy the concerned big brother bit) and he didn't think she was home, Misty close to her brother Timmy. No mention if Tommy called Timmy at all, and if he did, would he have asked Timmy if he had seen Misty? A van parked different and with a scratch on it not noticed before, Dropping Lisa off to visit Hank late night/early morning hours ( I know some hospitals allow it, still seems strange to me), a call at 4am with yelling and a missing Haleigh and lay in bed for a bit? And with an alleged MIA Misty earlier that night? I don't get it. Was lisa staying with Tommy at the time? Timmy? Have they checked the route to the hospital? Have they checked the visitors log (if they have one)? Then there is Joe O. leaving suddenly. I don't know, could all be nothing, could all be everything.
Where is Haleigh?!!!!!

completely my opinion only, logical or not.

[Elle]

No, Elle I don't think you jumped the gun. I will be honest I thought about the " we " also but then I thought about AH and I just don't know. Also, AH could have meant " we " so, you could be right. I defiantly think it is something to think about...imo.

I will always admire AH or anyone that keeps Haleigh's name out there as long as they do not intentionally mislead the public. If AH put " we " and it should have said " I ", then I honestly do not think AH would have done that on purpose, but sometimes it is hard for me to go along with every word he types...kwim?

I completely understand what you are saying. I have to keep myself in check though cuz when I read something I take meaning in every word, and a simple word will often completely change a meaning of something for me and I will hone in on it. I tend to forget that reporters are human and can make mistakes, I know I have made more than my fair share. It's so hard, I keep looking desperately for something, anything that will suddenly bring it all together, or at least a tiny bit of it. I cannot even begin to understand what it must be like for family and LE.

imoo

[Elle]

respectfully snipped

As I wrote in my other post, I am wondering if LE has enough information to make the wire taps legal.

http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/florida.html

This is all I have so far, I am going to go read the statutes and cases cited. I don't know much about wiretapping. I do know there was some issue w/ LE and wiretapping in the Eisenberg case but am not too familiar w/ what happened.

[Dunlurken]

So, did Ron file for divorce or not against Misty?

Morning all.

[Elle]

So, did Ron file for divorce or not against Misty?

Morning all.

I don't know. Does it become public record when someone files for divorce.

[MagicPool]

So, did Ron file for divorce or not against Misty?

Morning all.

I reckon thats the question of the day! Haven't seen it reported in any "mainstream" media outlets yet.

[Dunlurken]

I don't know. Does it become public record when someone files for divorce.

I would think so. JMO.

[FrankieBones1]

The Sheriff's Office has one primary investigator assigned to the case. Members of the agency's Major Crimes Unit, who meet daily, are briefed on the case to see if there is a need to conduct an interview or search. And a Florida Department of Law Enforcement agent, working out of the Sheriff's Office, reviews tips to check that deputies haven't missed anything.

A homicide investigator also is assigned to the investigation.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091006/ARTICLES/910061002/1002?Title=Eight-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-
Can't thank you enough for your links, Lynn. :rose:

[Texas48]

Oh, I am sorry - I think I see what you are saying.

I did read the article and in my mind I was thinking the phone number would tell them where they were staying. I need more coffee and I need to wake up a little before typing anything else, I think. My brain is not working with my fingers this morning...lol.

I am sorry that I missed what you were saying, but at the same time I wish you would not have accused me of NOT reading something.

BBL - before I make another mistake and someone rudely points it out.BBM
I accused you of nothing and you know it....Go back and re-read my post if you must...Why must you start it up already..? :w00t:

[MomofaMarine]

Radio Newz Blog


http://radionewz.net/

[Lynn Gweeny]

VIDEO: Haleigh Cummings Update (8:02)

Lt Johnny Greenwood w/ the Putnam County Sheriffs Office brings us up to date with the missing persons case of Haleigh Cummings. The 6 year old child was reported missing 7 months ago from her home.

http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091006/VIDEO/910062000&template=video

[MomofaMarine]

VIDEO: Haleigh Cummings Update (8:02)

Lt Johnny Greenwood w/ the Putnam County Sheriffs Office brings us up to date with the missing persons case of Haleigh Cummings. The 6 year old child was reported missing 7 months ago from her home.

http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091006/VIDEO/910062000&template=video

Thank you Lynn! :thumbsup:

[Texas48]

At the top of his blog, Art Harris has typed:


"By Art Harris, The Bald Truth, (c) www. artharris.com, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED"


That means only the link can be posted, NOTHING ELSE.

Read the forum labeled "Copyright Rules"
Thank you CW

[MomofaMarine]

Thank you CW


Ditto :thumbup:

[Tracian]

Thanks to Lynn for all the links!


I am not surprised by the possible divorce...after watching TN last night, it seemed pretty clear the other shoe was about to drop.

[MomofaMarine]

Divorce for Ronald and Misty Cummings?
Dave Wax Ann Butler Created: 10/6/2009 10:31:29 AM Updated: 10/6/2009 10:36:55 AM


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=146203&catid=17

[MagicPool]

VIDEO: Haleigh Cummings Update (8:02)

Lt Johnny Greenwood w/ the Putnam County Sheriffs Office brings us up to date with the missing persons case of Haleigh Cummings. The 6 year old child was reported missing 7 months ago from her home.

http://www.gainesville.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091006/VIDEO/910062000&template=video

Thanks for that link.
2 things that stuck out to me right away:
1. Lt. Greenwood said TN saw HaLeigh around 7pm....then he sorta backtracked and said "someone" saw her.
2. He says the call came in around 2:13am

I'm sure it was just an error on his part, but things like that are pretty critical pieces, so you'd think he'd get that right.

Once again, it's no wonder we're all confused on things!

JMO

[MagicPool]

Divorce for Ronald and Misty Cummings?
Dave Wax Ann Butler Created: 10/6/2009 10:31:29 AM Updated: 10/6/2009 10:36:55 AM


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/breaking/news-article.aspx?storyid=146203&catid=17

Well it's hit the mainstream news sources now! IMO, it explains TN demeanor last night on the NG show. I'm sure she knew this would be breaking news soon.

JMO

[MagicPool]

ITA, Tracian. Surprised is not the word that I would use either.

Now, it seems, Misty doesn't have much of a support system at all.

Her family has either moved away or is incarcerated. What support she did have from the Cummings family appears to be wearing thin. It is finally time to just clear the air and for her to come clean about everything that happened that night.

There is a 6 year old child that needs you to tell the truth, Misty.

JMO, OMO, IMO

Going to play devils advocate here.......

Now that she's away from Ron, will her family "take her back" and will they all become tight lipped??? I sure hope not, but with the way this case is going, nothing will surprise me!

JMO

[MomofaMarine]

Haleigh Update: Child's Father and Stepmom Divorcing?

TJ Hart


http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5375768.php

[MomofaMarine]

Haleigh Update: Child’s Father and Stepmom Divorcing?


http://www.bloggernews.net/122516

[Tracian]

This divorce stuff is just a hoax- I mean did Ron just now reach the conclusion shes not an enemy anymore?

jmo

IMO, Ron and TN know they cannot get any further with her; I know that if he goes through with the divorce, that ruins a lot of pet theories that Misty is covering for Ron and that is why he is with her.

[KatieLady]

And here it is again

"She's the key person, and we'll still say that," Greenwood said. Her accounts and the physical evidence "don't match up," he said.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091006/ARTICLES/910061002/1002?Title=Eight-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-

LE sure hasn't wavered from this!

[Tracian]

ITs a hoax, its never going to happen- I hope it does though so Misty can get away from him and find a better life without someone who is telling the media and others she is some enemy-

I am calling hoax-

jmo


We shall see. I hope it is true so that maybe we will find out what happened to Haleigh. LE says she is the one that hold the key, that she is lying. Even her own brother says she was not home that night.

[HouseOfClark]

This divorce stuff is just a hoax- I mean did Ron just now reach the conclusion shes not an enemy anymore?

jmo

At this point, I'm inclined to agree. These reports surface after a couple of weeks of people posting here and other places that Ron needs to dump Misty.

And if it is true, that's 7 months of investigative time that LE will never get back because of the marriage and Ron and Misty's "resisting" questioning from March until September.

After claims of the marriage being "what Haleigh wanted" and Misty being the best thing to ever happen, it seems none of that matters now. IF these latest *rumors* are true.

JMO

[MagicPool]

(From the other side of the devil) :)

Honestly, how much did her family really do before Ron? The past seems to be an indication that this chick is on her own. IMO...JMO

Very true.......but why did it take Tommy 7 months to say he was at the trailer. Was he covering for Misty or did he just now talk to save his own bum?? That I think is the million dollar question!

[Tracian]

LMAO! (Sorry, you just tickle me.)

First: You can call foul if you wish, but no one but Ron and Misty know if this is a hoax or not.

Second: Ron is not the one telling the media she is the enemy (ok he did quote an old saying regarding keeping your enemies closer), but LE is the one saying she is holding back the truth.
LE is the one saying she is inconsistent.
LE is the one saying the evidence doesn't match up.
LE is the one who has never swayed in their belief she is not telling the "complete" truth.

The only way Misty can avoid all that is to either divorce LE or finally tell the truth.

As for a better life...........well, that's still a crap shoot for her. IMO

Gotta love it, hoping for a better life for Misty, the one that police said 'Everything she told us was a farce'

Hoping for better life for Misty, when her own brother says she was not home that night.

Hoping for Misty to find someone that does not think she is the enemy, even though she failed test after test...

Sad that Ron being the bad guy for some is more important than Misty going to LE and telling the truth.

Seems to me, that if Ron files for divorce, that ruins the theories that Ron married Misty to keep her in control, that she is protecting him.

Misty is protecting Misty. TN made her opinions on Misty very clear on her voice mail to Tim Miller. Tim Miller has said what Ron and GGMS told him in regards to Misty...but again, to believe that part of this case, ruins the desire for some to make Ron guilty.

[Tracian]

On ARts site- AS says had she had time alone with Misty she would get the truth out of her, what a crock, she had Misty all to herself when Ron went to jail-

jmo





She was not talking about sitting her down for tea and crumpets..that is why Tim said "Whoa grandma"

:

[Tracian]

You know who I want to pay..........the guilty party.

I don't care who on this message board is validated for blaming the correct party or figuring out this case.

I just want Haleigh found and whoever is responsible to pay.

Shouldn't that be what everyone wants?

Poor Haleigh...........SHE and SHE ALONE needs and deserves the BEST!



I agree. I don't care who is guilty, they should pay, and pay dearly.

TN and Ron both have said as much.

IF it turns out that Ron or TN or Crystal or whomever hurt Haleigh or is responsible for what happened to her, well they should face the harshest punishment under the law.

Right now, the only one LE has issues with is Misty; but for some that is sugar coated or ignored, because that does not fit in with the agenda to blame one of Haleigh's parents.

[panman]

ITs a hoax, its never going to happen- I hope it does though so Misty can get away from him and find a better life without someone who is telling the media and others she is some enemy-

I am calling hoax-

jmo

So are you thinking that Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh being missing?

[KatieLady]

I agree. I don't care who is guilty, they should pay, and pay dearly.

TN and Ron both have said as much.

IF it turns out that Ron or TN or Crystal or whomever hurt Haleigh or is responsible for what happened to her, well they should face the harshest punishment under the law.

Right now, the only one LE has issues with is Misty; but for some that is sugar coated or ignored, because that does not fit in with the agenda to blame one of Haleigh's parents.

Don't know how it could be any clearer Tracian

"She's the key person, and we'll still say that," Greenwood said. Her accounts and the physical evidence "don't match up," he said.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091006/ARTICLES/910061002/1002?Title=Eight-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-

[KatieLady]

??? 2:13 ????
2.... ???

OK, I'm officially lost...



I'm thinking he just misspoke Rucky IMO

[Tracian]

Don't know how it could be any clearer Tracian

"She's the key person, and we'll still say that," Greenwood said. Her accounts and the physical evidence "don't match up," he said.

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20091006/ARTICLES/910061002/1002?Title=Eight-months-later-hope-for-Haleigh-remains-strong-


ITA. Misty's running out of time, she better fess up.

[penny]

http://www.rcfp.org/taping/states/florida.html

This is all I have so far, I am going to go read the statutes and cases cited. I don't know much about wiretapping. I do know there was some issue w/ LE and wiretapping in the Eisenberg case but am not too familiar w/ what happened.

Thanks Elle for the link and I don't know too much about wire tapping either but I do hope that LE has one on Misty at this time.

[KatieLady]

What will it take for Misty to finally speak the truth?

I have no idea Lisa! It is so frustrating! Imagine how LE must feel!!!

[MomofaMarine]

Nancy Grace Breaking News Exclusive: Nancy Grace confirms Haleigh's dad Ronald Cummings filed for divorce today from his wife Misty Croslin! For more info. go to: www.cnn.com/nancygrace



http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN?ref=mf

[DramaQueen]

I'm thinking he just misspoke Rucky IMO


but what if he didn't?

[Brattnt]

I personally dont think Misty will ever tell the truth, since I think she is in this up past her eyeballs!...For her to tell where Haleigh is, and what happened to her would mean jail for Misty, and she knows it...JMO

[KatieLady]

but what if he didn't?

We have seen the police report...it has the time on it so I am thinking it was just a mistake on his part IMO

[dustyk]

looks like Misty has just become the latest of a long list of female casualties in Ronald Cumming's life. Don't know if she is hiding something or not, but he obviously used her to babysit his kids, married her to stay out of jail, fought with all of her family members and now he dumps her. But she hasn't lost much. Did he party with some other unsuspecting female while she was gone? Hopefully Putnam County has their teenage girls under lock and key. JMO

[witchywoman]

If he did was it the 2 o'clock or the 13 minutes?
All along it's been said the call came in at 3:27?

There WAS however a report in the beginning a neighbor heard loud voices around 2 AM.

Did the neighbors call 911 first? Before Ron and Misty? :confused:

More questions.
I need a drink!
Is it 5 o'clock ANYWHERE??

MOO

passing u a fuzzy navel drink


eta, hi everyone, just wanna say thanks for keeping ole witchy in the know concering this case..

u guys/dolls rock!

[DramaQueen]

LOL! 911 has a record of all calls, time and date stamped. I think this would be an easy check. JMO

YEAH you're right I thought this might have something to do with the police already being in the area, and was a major slip of the tongue......a girl can hope, huh?

So, divorce is in the air. In many ways it is both a surprise and not a surprise to me, every time something happens in this case it throws me for a loop.

[Tracian]

looks like Misty has just become the latest of a long list of female casualties in Ronald Cumming's life. Don't know if she is hiding something or not, but he obviously used her to babysit his kids, married her to stay out of jail, fought with all of her family members and now he dumps her. But she hasn't lost much. Did he party with some other unsuspecting female while she was gone? Hopefully Putnam County has their teenage girls under lock and key. JMO



I can't believe this, again, Misty is holding the key to Haleigh, yet she gets a pass.

I thought Haleigh was what was important, not bashing Ron.

[Pomme]

ITs a hoax, its never going to happen- I hope it does though so Misty can get away from him and find a better life without someone who is telling the media and others she is some enemy-

I am calling hoax-

jmo

I am flabbergasted that you would hope this lying individual gets away and finds a better life.

She's involved. Whoever else is involved should be prosecuted right along with her, but whoever that ends up being - SHE'S involved.

[DramaQueen]

If he did was it the 2 o'clock or the 13 minutes?
All along it's been said the call came in at 3:27?

There WAS however a report in the beginning a neighbor heard loud voices around 2 AM.

Did the neighbors call 911 first? Before Ron and Misty? :confused:

More questions.
I need a drink!
Is it 5 o'clock ANYWHERE??

MOO

IDK all I saw was a three................sorry could not resist

I would give about anything to know what evidence they have from the scene that tells them Misty's story does not add up

It's not 5:00 here, but I will help you pretend!!!

[DramaQueen]

I am flabbergasted that you would hope this lying individual gets away and finds a better life.

She's involved. Whoever else is involved should be prosecuted right along with her, but whoever that ends up being - SHE'S involved.


YES, ITA, IMO she is involved. And as soon as she started telling different stories every time someone asked her a question AND THEN went on national tv and admitted she had incopnsistent stories but sisn't know why she had them, it was all over for her.

Does she think she's having a bad dream and it will all go away some day?

[Pomme]

Dont attack me personally-

I think Misty is going to talk and shes going to implicate Ron, and he is going to use the, how can we believe a woman scorned-

As you can clearly see, no personal attack is even remotely implied in the word 'flabbergasted'.

No matter who did this crime, she is involved. I don't wish her well at this point, until she comes clean. At that point, once we know the truth, I might feel free to wish her well.

In the meantime, please stop baiting.

[Tracian]

Dont attack me personally-

I think Misty is going to talk and shes going to implicate Ron, and he is going to use the, how can we believe a woman scorned-

Well, so far she has thrown Tim Miller under the bus, her brother Tommy, and maybe she will try to put the blame on Ron.

Of course, if she says something that can be verified, then should it be the truth, then as Ron says, "let 'em fry'

Misty, is protecting Misty, IMO....and from what LE, and Tim Miller has said, she is the only one lying.

[Dunlurken]

Well, so far she has thrown Tim Miller under the bus, her brother Tommy, and maybe she will try to put the blame on Ron.

Of course, if she says something that can be verified, then should it be the truth, then as Ron says, "let 'em fry'

Misty, is protecting Misty, IMO....and from what LE, and Tim Miller has said, she is the only one lying.

Next will be Teresa. JMO.

[panman]

looks like Misty has just become the latest of a long list of female casualties in Ronald Cumming's life. Don't know if she is hiding something or not, but he obviously used her to babysit his kids, married her to stay out of jail, fought with all of her family members and now he dumps her. But she hasn't lost much. Did he party with some other unsuspecting female while she was gone? Hopefully Putnam County has their teenage girls under lock and key. JMO

Same question to you as to Viva, are you thinking Misty had nothing to do with Haleigh being missing?

[W_D_1]

ITs a hoax, its never going to happen- I hope it does though so Misty can get away from him and find a better life without someone who is telling the media and others she is some enemy-

I am calling hoax-

jmo


Misty got away from him last week and she's away from him now. She is the enemy. She is the one who hasn't told the truth. She is the one the police are focusing on. She is the one they say is the key. Her claims are the ones police say don't match the evidence they have. Her story is the one the police call a farce.

[panman]

I can't believe this, again, Misty is holding the key to Haleigh, yet she gets a pass.

I thought Haleigh was what was important, not bashing Ron.

It seems to me what we have here is a case against men and some IMO believe because its a female, its ok. Not in my book. And I believe your right on with what exactly is important here. But I have no doubt if Crystals gets brought up, it will be Lets talk about Haleigh.
jmo

[KatieLady]

"She's the key person, and we'll still say that," Greenwood said. Her accounts and the physical evidence "don't match up," he said.

What I find interesting is the part I bolded. What physical evidence do you guys think he is talking about????

[DramaQueen]

Yeah, I am well aware of what the LE have been saying for months- And in hindsight, Ron is right, she is the enemy because she has the power to put him away for a long time- and he knows it, and this is why we are more than likely headed to a how can anyone believe what Misty says, shes mad I am divorcing her-

jmo


well that is an interesting theory, I will admit, and one I never would have thought of. But then I also never thought Ron had horns and a tail either.

But believe me, LE would have to take anything Misty said about Ron or anyone else very seriously, and I believe they have some evidence from the trailer that will back up what she tells them when she tells it, and IMO that evidence has nothing to do with Ronald Cummings.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

[Tracian]

Yeah, I am well aware of what the LE have been saying for months- And in hindsight, Ron is right, she is the enemy because she has the power to put him away for a long time- and he knows it, and this is why we are more than likely headed to a how can anyone believe what Misty says, shes mad I am divorcing her-

jmo



Misty can accuse anyone of anything, she already has; if there is something to back her story up, then what Ron says will not matter.

If Misty had this great power, Ron would not divorce her, he would not have let Tim Miller do the tests, TN would not have left that voice mail, and Ron would not have told Tim, and others that he didn't believe Misty's stories.

[DramaQueen]

"She's the key person, and we'll still say that," Greenwood said. Her accounts and the physical evidence "don't match up," he said.

What I find interesting is the part I bolded. What physical evidence do you guys think he is talking about????

do you think that given all the talk about laundry that it is DNA evidence? Has everyone (all the men) related to the case in any way whatsoever had DNA sample taken?

[W_D_1]

"She's the key person, and we'll still say that," Greenwood said. Her accounts and the physical evidence "don't match up," he said.

What I find interesting is the part I bolded. What physical evidence do you guys think he is talking about????


The bed being made is one piece of evidence imo.

[BitterSweet]

Putnam Scanner ~ activity on Tyler street.

BitterSweet

[W_D_1]

Misty can accuse anyone of anything, she already has; if there is something to back her story up, then what Ron says will not matter.

If Misty had this great power, Ron would not divorce her, he would not have let Tim Miller do the tests, TN would not have left that voice mail, and Ron would not have told Tim, and others that he didn't believe Misty's stories.



Ahhhh good old common sense. Ron's actions are not those of a man worried about hidden secrets being exposed by a jilted spouse.

[KatieLady]

The bed being made is one piece of evidence imo.

Right! A big one if you ask me!!

[KatieLady]

Putnam Scanner ~ activity on Tyler street.

BitterSweet

Can I have the link please...I lost it :scared:

[MomofaMarine]

Can I have the link please...I lost it :scared:


http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

[KatieLady]

How about the storm door they took off the back of the mobile home

What do you think the evidence could be on that Rozzy

Welcome to the boards...if you are new :biggrin:

[KatieLady]

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

Thanks Mom!!

[KatieLady]

Thanks for the welcome. Don't know what evidence, just know they took it.

Not sure if it is true but it is said that LE still has it.

[BitterSweet]

Can I have the link please...I lost it :scared:



http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

[MomofaMarine]

Breaking News Exclusive: Nancy Grace confirms Haleigh's dad Ronald Cummings is filing for divorce today from his wife Misty Croslin! Exclusive interview with Ronald Cummings tonight! Nancy Grace investigates. 8 & 10 p.m. ET on HLN.



http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/

[emdragon]

If Ron does file for divorce maybe some who think he married her to "keep her silent" will finally see this as no longer viable.
I can hope in any case... :wink:

If true.... he apparently isn't worried about anything Misty might tell LE.

MOO

(I keep writing posts and then deleting them)

One thing has become Crystal clear (no pun intended) if Ron Cummings were to say the sky is blue and the President is Obama there is a faction here who would call him a liar. They won't change their minds because Truth is not what they are after..

But I do find it absolutely hilarious that for weeks they have been quoting Ron's Attorney as proof he hasn't been cleared but now Ron's Family Law Attorney is lying when he says a divorce is in the works.

Makes it clear they will believe what they want to and I would have some of them on ignore if they weren't so darn funny....

"maybe Misty can get away from Ron who calls her the enemy" lol

There is a reason you are told that during highly stressful and life changing events not to make any major decisions- I believe this is the case with Ron's marriage- he was just flat out of his mind at the time.

[KatieLady]

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

Thank you!

[Lynn Gweeny]

Haleigh's dad plans to file for divorce
Actionnewsjax.com
Last Update: 1:16 pm

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleighs-dad-plans-to-file-for-divorce/_ySwxvIhz0-y5KUaP5iJfQ.cspx

VIDEO: Ron and Misty Cummings Divorce (2:18)

(Paperwork is being drawn up right now according to this video report)

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=34011@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5

[DramaQueen]

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

what are they saying? I don't have speakers down her!

[MomofaMarine]

Haleigh's dad plans to file for divorce
Actionnewsjax.com
Last Update: 1:16 pm

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleighs-dad-plans-to-file-for-divorce/_ySwxvIhz0-y5KUaP5iJfQ.cspx

VIDEO: Ron and Misty Cummings Divorce (2:18)

(Paperwork is being drawn up right now according to this video report)

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=34011@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5

Thank you Lynn!

[emdragon]

Yeah, I am well aware of what the LE have been saying for months- And in hindsight, Ron is right, she is the enemy because she has the power to put him away for a long time- and he knows it, and this is why we are more than likely headed to a how can anyone believe what Misty says, shes mad I am divorcing her-

jmo

lol you just make me laugh.

Ron doesn't have to claim "woman scorned" as a reason not to believe Misty should she try and implicate him, LE themselves have made it abundantly clear nothing Misty says can be trusted. Ron needs no excuse. But hey gold star for trying.

[MomofaMarine]

what are they saying? I don't have speakers down her!


It wasnt about Haleigh.

[DramaQueen]

Haleigh's dad plans to file for divorce
Actionnewsjax.com
Last Update: 1:16 pm

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleighs-dad-plans-to-file-for-divorce/_ySwxvIhz0-y5KUaP5iJfQ.cspx

VIDEO: Ron and Misty Cummings Divorce (2:18)

(Paperwork is being drawn up right now according to this video report)

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=34011@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5


Thank you for the links, Lynn!!!!

[penny]

I personally dont think Misty will ever tell the truth, since I think she is in this up past her eyeballs!...For her to tell where Haleigh is, and what happened to her would mean jail for Misty, and she knows it...JMO

I agree with you and momofamarine thanks for the link on NG about Ron filing for divorce today. I will make hubby give the TV up tonight...lol

[DramaQueen]

It wasnt about Haleigh.

oh ok thanks

[Lqqkout]

The bed being made is one piece of evidence imo.


The pink shirt is another piece of evidence.

[Lynn Gweeny]

Courtesy of WillenFan21 at WS: :thumbsup:

The Snapshot Search project is a project working with celebrities by using pictures of them holding up posters of missing children or wearing tee-shirts featuring them. The website for the project is coming (very) soon.

http://snapshotsearch.net/

Two actors from the Soap Opera "As the World Turns" are working with this to help find missing children. Michael Park(Jack Snyder) and Mick Hazen (Parker) are shown in a photo wearing "Find Haleigh" T-Shirts.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7526/parkhazenphoto1.jpg

[W_D_1]

The pink shirt is another piece of evidence.


And her claim of doing laundry with no detergent in the house.

[penny]

"She's the key person, and we'll still say that," Greenwood said. Her accounts and the physical evidence "don't match up," he said.

What I find interesting is the part I bolded. What physical evidence do you guys think he is talking about????

I am glad you asked this question because I have been wondering about this for a very long time and I can not figure it out.

[KatieLady]

The pink shirt is another piece of evidence.

So, as far as physical evidence that Misty's story doesn't follow is

1) The bed being made when Misty says she was asleep in it
2) The pink shirt Haleigh was supposed to be wearing still at the home
3) The screen door (not sure how this fits in)
4) Laundry being done (from original LE report that I saw but no longer exsists)
5) Dirty clothes in dryer

Adding
4) TV or DVD on when Tommy says the home was dark (if we believe him)

So glad we have some time to edit lol

[Lqqkout]

(I keep writing posts and then deleting them)

One thing has become Crystal clear (no pun intended) if Ron Cummings were to say the sky is blue and the President is Obama there is a faction here who would call him a liar. They won't change their minds because Truth is not what they are after..

But I do find it absolutely hilarious that for weeks they have been quoting Ron's Attorney as proof he hasn't been cleared but now Ron's Family Law Attorney is lying when he says a divorce is in the works.

Makes it clear they will believe what they want to and I would have some of them on ignore if they weren't so darn funny....

"maybe Misty can get away from Ron who calls her the enemy" lol

There is a reason you are told that during highly stressful and life changing events not to make any major decisions- I believe this is the case with Ron's marriage- he was just flat out of his mind at the time.

Great Post ! And my question is why such tunnel vision?

[penny]

Putnam Scanner ~ activity on Tyler street.

BitterSweet

Thank you, I will turn it on but I always have a horrible time trying to understand it.

[Lqqkout]

Really? Do you honestly have a dog in this? A 6 year old child is missing and all you care about is how her dad is going to be found guilty and you are already playing out his defense.

Is validation THAT important to you.......at what expense?

The expense of a 6 year old child?

You should be elated, right now. Misty is away from Ron. For months you have said she is under his abusive control, forced to cover for him, because he somehow left a VERIFIED alibi and did something with his daughter. Well, MISTY is free from the "evil power of Ron" shouldn't that make you "over the moon ecstatic"? Will anything short of "Ron in cuffs" make you happy?

What about the TRUTH?
What about Haleigh, Viva?
What about Haleigh?

Awesome post, Tex.:thumbsup:

[W_D_1]

Weren't the clothes in the dryer dirty?


According to Ron, yes. So....we can add that to Katie's list.

[Elle]

Courtesy of WillenFan21 at WS: :thumbsup:

The Snapshot Search project is a project working with celebrities by using pictures of them holding up posters of missing children or wearing tee-shirts featuring them. The website for the project is coming (very) soon.

http://snapshotsearch.net/

Two actors from the Soap Opera "As the World Turns" are working with this to help find missing children. Michael Park(Jack Snyder) and Mick Hazen (Parker) are shown in a photo wearing "Find Haleigh" T-Shirts.

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7526/parkhazenphoto1.jpg

Thats wonderful! I feel like I read posts about this idea a while back, a message board poster I believe was talking about contacting celebrities to see if they would help spead the word and faces of missing children. Is this one in the same?! Well done whoever started this!

[emdragon]

So, as far as physical evidence that Misty's story doesn't follow is

1) The bed being made when Misty says she was asleep in it
2) The pink shirt Haleigh was supposed to be wearing still at the home
3) The screen door (not sure how this fits in)

Adding
4) TV or DVD on when Tommy says the home was dark (if we believe him)

Not sure the TV/DVD would be evidence since it could have been turned off anytime prior to LE arriving at the MH.

But I do wonder if maybe WHICH DVD was in the machine might matter if not the same one Misty says the kids were watching that night.

[DramaQueen]

Weren't the clothes in the dryer dirty?


yes there was dirty laundry in the washer as well as the dryer, as if someone hurridly cleared a path to the back door maybe?

[Lqqkout]

Haleigh's dad plans to file for divorce
Actionnewsjax.com
Last Update: 1:16 pm

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Haleighs-dad-plans-to-file-for-divorce/_ySwxvIhz0-y5KUaP5iJfQ.cspx

VIDEO: Ron and Misty Cummings Divorce (2:18)

(Paperwork is being drawn up right now according to this video report)

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=34011@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5

Where will she go now? Maybe her new friend will take her in to babysit her children. Another fool enters the picture.

[Justice4all]

From BLOG



MISTY CUMMINGS SPEAKS TO ME EXCLUSIVLEY: RONALD CUMMINGS FILES FOR DIVORCE
October 5, 2009 by Steph


http://stephww.wordpress.com/

WOW.....I really hope Ron does wake up and file for divorce.

[Lqqkout]

Weren't the clothes in the dryer dirty?


Yup......................

[KatieLady]

Not sure the TV/DVD would be evidence since it could have been turned off anytime prior to LE arriving at the MH.

But I do wonder if maybe WHICH DVD was in the machine might matter if not the same one Misty says the kids were watching that night.

IIRC didn't one of the grandma's say the TV was always on during the night? I could be wrong....

[Lqqkout]

Not sure the TV/DVD would be evidence since it could have been turned off anytime prior to LE arriving at the MH.

But I do wonder if maybe WHICH DVD was in the machine might matter if not the same one Misty says the kids were watching that night.

Wasn't there mention that the dvd or vcr or whatever was put up away like it wasn't being used? I seem to recall reading that somewhere.

[emdragon]

IIRC didn't one of the grandma's say the TV was always on during the night? I could be wrong....

Yes they did say that. I was thinking only about Tommy saying it wasn't on that night- didn't even think about the fact they said it was on everynight.

[W_D_1]

Wasn't there mention that the dvd or vcr or whatever was put up away like it wasn't being used? I seem to recall reading that somewhere.


IIRC it was that the dvd player was too high for Haleigh to have swapped movies like Lisa Croslin suggested which indicates the movie Misty claimed Haleigh was watching wasn't what was in the dvd player. I don't remember where that got started though.

[KatieLady]

IIRC it was that the dvd player was too high for Haleigh to have swapped movies like Lisa Croslin suggested which indicates the movie Misty claimed Haleigh was watching wasn't what was in the dvd player. I don't remember where that got started though.

I don't either WD1

[PerneciaJane]

And her claim of doing laundry with no detergent in the house.

Blankets were not freshly laundered.
No cleaning had been done.

[Justice4all]

I have a question for everyone that felt like Misty was covering for Ron.....


IF they get a divorce and she's away from Ron do you think she'll tell the truth about what happen that night?


Or do you feel like she will be to scared to EVER tell the truth??


IMO Misty's not covering for Ron.....she's only covering for her sorry self.


MOO

[KatieLady]

I have a question for everyone that felt like Misty was covering for Ron.....


IF they get a divorce and she's away from Ron do you think she'll tell the truth about what happen that night?


Or do you feel like she will be to scared to EVER tell the truth??


IMO Misty's not covering for Ron.....she's only covering for her sorry self.


MOO

If she is only covering for herself she will never tell the truth IMO :sad:

[Tracian]

I have a question for everyone that felt like Misty was covering for Ron.....


IF they get a divorce and she's away from Ron do you think she'll tell the truth about what happen that night?


Or do you feel like she will be to scared to EVER tell the truth??


IMO Misty's not covering for Ron.....she's only covering for her sorry self.


MOO

Yep, ITA.

I just don't understand this sudden sympathy from the very person that LE says is lying and everything she says is a 'farce'

[KatieLady]

Blankets were not freshly laundered.
No cleaning had been done.

I have forgotten Jane...did Misty say she laundered the blankets? And do we know for sure they weren't clean?

Trying to figure out if this should be added to my list.

[Tracian]

I have forgotten Jane...did Misty say she laundered the blankets? And do we know for sure they weren't clean?

Trying to figure out if this should be added to my list.


Yes, she said she laundered Haleigh's blanket because it smelled like pee, then covered her with it before she (Misty) went to sleep.

[Justice4all]

Yep, ITA.

I just don't understand this sudden sympathy from the very person that LE says is lying and everything she says is a 'farce'

ITA over and over from day one this girl has lied and a few around her make excuses for her and blame her lies on Ron...I hope this divorce proves he's not holding her hostage or trying to keep her mouth shut.


MOO

[PerneciaJane]

I have forgotten Jane...did Misty say she laundered the blankets? And do we know for sure they weren't clean?

Trying to figure out if this should be added to my list.

She said she laundered two blankets but we do not know if they were clean.

Third blanket was in the van they took?

[KatieLady]

Yes, she said she laundered Haleigh's blanket because it smelled like pee, then covered her with it before she (Misty) went to sleep.

But do we know that is not true???

[Tracian]

But do we know that is not true???


With Misty, who knows.

[KatieLady]

With Misty, who knows.

LOL true....

[KatieLady]

So, as far as physical evidence that Misty's story doesn't follow is

1) The bed being made when Misty says she was asleep in it
2) The pink shirt Haleigh was supposed to be wearing still at the home
3) The screen door (not sure how this fits in)
4) Laundry being done (from original LE report that I saw but no longer exists)
5) Dirty clothes in dryer
4) TV or DVD on when Tommy says the home was dark (if we believe him)


Not adding about the blankets because we don't know for sure.

Anything else???

[MomofaMarine]

Haleigh Update: AUDIO: Attorney for Ronald Cummings Talks About Possible Divorce



http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5376791.php

[penny]

Viva4Haleigh thank you for the codes. Now, I can't print them out for next time.

Also, I have been back and forth from my computer today so I am sure I have missed some post.

I just want you to know you are NOT alone. I also feel like Ron is involved and I can tell you from other boards we are not the only ones that feel Ron is involved but I am sure you already knew that..
I just wanted to let you know that even though I do not have time to post much today that I do see exactly where you are coming from.

I personally feel that if NG and others were not coming down so hard on Ron right now that there would not be a divorce in the making.

[Lqqkout]

??? 2:13 ????
2.... ???

OK, I'm officially lost...



When we first read the transcript of the police radio dispatch, one of the officers was at 116 Tyler St. (Tommy's). Can't tell what the time was during this dispatch. http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5173311.php

[W_D_1]

So, as far as physical evidence that Misty's story doesn't follow is

1) The bed being made when Misty says she was asleep in it
2) The pink shirt Haleigh was supposed to be wearing still at the home
3) The screen door (not sure how this fits in)
4) Laundry being done (from original LE report that I saw but no longer exists)
5) Dirty clothes in dryer
4) TV or DVD on when Tommy says the home was dark (if we believe him)


Not adding about the blankets because we don't know for sure.

Anything else???


No laundry detergent in the house per Ron.

[Lqqkout]

from this link.............. "no joint assets, no joint liabilities, no children in common, would be rather uneventful proceedings"

According to this article Ron has been collecting unemployment.

[Justice4all]

According to this article Ron has been collecting unemployment.

and he's been actively seeking employment

[KatieLady]

So, as far as physical evidence that Misty's story doesn't follow is

1) The bed being made when Misty says she was asleep in it
2) The pink shirt Haleigh was supposed to be wearing still at the home
3) The screen door (not sure how this fits in)
4) Laundry being done (from original LE report that I saw but no longer exists)
5) No laundry soap in house (per Ron)
6) Dirty clothes in dryer
7) TV or DVD on when Tommy says the home was dark (if we believe him)


Not adding about the blankets because we don't know for sure.

Anything else??? Thanks for the add WD1

[W_D_1]

According to this article Ron has been collecting unemployment.


Yeah Teresa said he was on NG last night so now the claims of him living off of Annette Sykes can stop.

[KatieLady]

What about the "cinder block"?

Did LE even take that?

I think they did....but I think the cinder block has been consistant in Misty's stories...hasn't it?

[Lqqkout]

Viva4Haleigh thank you for the codes. Now, I can't print them out for next time.

Also, I have been back and forth from my computer today so I am sure I have missed some post.

I just want you to know you are NOT alone. I also feel like Ron is involved and I can tell you from other boards we are not the only ones that feel Ron is involved but I am sure you already knew that..
I just wanted to let you know that even though I do not have time to post much today that I do see exactly where you are coming from.

I personally feel that if NG and others were not coming down so hard on Ron right now that there would not be a divorce in the making.

Although I do not share your suspicion of Ron's involvement, I do think that if Tim Miller had not made public things said to him by Ronald in confidence or Teresa's phone message, this divorce would not be happening.

[Lqqkout]

Yeah Teresa said he was on NG last night so now the claims of him living off of Annette Sykes can stop.

Right. I didn't watch NG.

[PerneciaJane]

Viva4Haleigh thank you for the codes. Now, I can't print them out for next time.

Also, I have been back and forth from my computer today so I am sure I have missed some post.

I just want you to know you are NOT alone. I also feel like Ron is involved and I can tell you from other boards we are not the only ones that feel Ron is involved but I am sure you already knew that..
I just wanted to let you know that even though I do not have time to post much today that I do see exactly where you are coming from.

I personally feel that if NG and others were not coming down so hard on Ron right now that there would not be a divorce in the making.


Yes but at least one other board you can only post if you bash RC and the Cummings family. If you post otherwise you get banned for pot stirring. Definately preferential treatment and a totally one sided forum. :rolleyes:

[KatieLady]

Although I do not share your suspicion of Ron's involvement, I do think that if Tim Miller had not made public things said to him by Ronald in confidence or Teresa's phone message, this divorce would not be happening.

But Ron is the one who is filing right? Seems like (could be wrong) he is the one that wants the divorce?

It could be that they both want it but he has the means to file I suppose???

[Lqqkout]

I am not sure how it works in most states, however, I know in our state, the EMPLOYER has a great deal to do with the process and basically makes that decision. They are the ones who pay the premiums for the insurance...........

When I was laid off, my employer filed my unemployment FOR ME.

If PDM wanted him to receive unemployment, there is no doubt in my mind that he would.

Yes, as we discussed last night. I am glad to hear his employer was gracious regarding this.

[KatieLady]

Yes, I suppose it has. I was thinking more that it might have prints on it and that wouldn't be consistent.........

Oh! Could be! She did say she didn't know where it came from and if her finger prints were on it that would be inconsistant IMO

hmmmm

[Lqqkout]

Yeah Teresa said he was on NG last night so now the claims of him living off of Annette Sykes can stop.

Oh, I doubt that.

[W_D_1]

TY Penny- I am hoping the truth is about to be revealed- Haleigh deserves justice-


This is the 3rd time Misty has been away from Ron. The first time he was in jail. If she had anything to tell she would have told it then. What better time then when he was locked up and had no way to stop her? IMO anything she has to tell implicates her and her alone.

[KatieLady]

I have to go. Keep adding to the list....I am so curious as to what physical evidence doesn't match Misty's story.

BBL :seeya:

[Lqqkout]

But Ron is the one who is filing right? Seems like (could be wrong) he is the one that wants the divorce?

It could be that they both want it but he has the means to file I suppose???

I don't believe Ron ever wanted to get married in the first place, but did so to keep Misty in Putnam County. Now, she will flee. I think his private conversations made public forced his hand. I am sure Misty was angry because of things he said to others about her and their life went downhill fast after the news got ahold of the conversations . imo

[FrankieBones1]

"She's the key person, and we'll still say that," Greenwood said. Her accounts and the physical evidence "don't match up," he said.

What I find interesting is the part I bolded. What physical evidence do you guys think he is talking about????

My guess would be the video tapes and the video player. Do these add up to her stories about which child was watching which tape, where and when? Not sure if it is true or not but what if the VCR was found up too high and out of reach of a child?
And the laundry comes to mind. Did she start a wash before 11pm or after 3:00am? I think these could be some of the physical evidence they are talking about.

[FrankieBones1]

ITA over and over from day one this girl has lied and a few around her make excuses for her and blame her lies on Ron...I hope this divorce proves he's not holding her hostage or trying to keep her mouth shut.


MOO

I doubt anyone seriously thinks that Ronald Cummings hurt his daughter or had anything to do with her missing.

[msgatorslayer]

I don't believe Ron ever wanted to get married in the first place, but did so to keep Misty in Putnam County. Now, she will flee. I think his private conversations made public forced his hand. I am sure Misty was angry because of things he said to others about her and their life went downhill fast after the news got ahold of the conversations . imo

The marriage was a sham, as far as I'm concerned. While I can see his POV on keeping 'the enemy close', how he managed to keep his cool and live with her this long is beyond me.

They got married because that's what Haleigh wanted? Please!! The little girl is missing. Concentrate on finding her. I'm sure she'd rather you do that than get married. How did a wedding help Haleigh? That could have, and should have, waited till she was found. If ever.

JMO, but Misti wasn't going to run off anyway, if Ron didn't marry her. Look at her family!! Nobody but Ron was willing to take care of her.

[Lqqkout]

The marriage was a sham, as far as I'm concerned. While I can see his POV on keeping 'the enemy close', how he managed to keep his cool and live with her this long is beyond me.

They got married because that's what Haleigh wanted? Please!! The little girl is missing. Concentrate on finding her. I'm sure she'd rather you do that than get married. How did a wedding help Haleigh? That could have, and should have, waited till she was found. If ever.

JMO, but Misti wasn't going to run off anyway, if Ron didn't marry her. Look at her family!! Nobody but Ron was willing to take care of her.

I think if I were Ron, I would have killed her by now. So much for all the accusations of violence.

[W_D_1]

I doubt anyone seriously thinks that Ronald Cummings hurt his daughter or had anything to do with her missing.


It certainly doesn't appear that the police think that. It's still all about Misty.

[FrankieBones1]

Really? Do you honestly have a dog in this? <<snipped for length only>>
What about the TRUTH?
What about Haleigh, Viva?
What about Haleigh?This is an awe inspiring post, Lisa. Well done. I, like Emdragon, post and delete this afternoon. Thanks for bringing sanity back to the room. :rose:

[FrankieBones1]

It certainly doesn't appear that the police think that. It's still all about Misty.

That is so true, WD. It has been since the beginning.

[MomofaMarine]

Haleigh Cummings father filing for divorce


http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/100609_cummings_filing_for_divorce

[4Kids]

To add to the list of physical evidence...I would think the cell phone records of all including Misty, Tommy, Ron, Timmy, etc. would be undeniable physical evidence. If she was out and about...pinging all over....when she was supposed to be asleep...IMO

[FrankieBones1]

As you can clearly see, no personal attack is even remotely implied in the word 'flabbergasted'.

No matter who did this crime, she is involved. I don't wish her well at this point, until she comes clean. At that point, once we know the truth, I might feel free to wish her well.

In the meantime, please stop baiting.
Good post. I was flabbergasted, too but after a moment or two, chalked it up to bait.

I think Misty is involved somehow, too. Not not sure as to what degree yet.
imo

[msgatorslayer]

And somehow, Ron must not think shes an enemy anymore, since they are divorcing, even though cops are pretty adamant shes (still) the key-

Makes no sense-
jmo

He's making an azz outta himself, IMO. No matter what good intentions he may have had by marrying Misti, the longer he stays with her, and protects her, while LE says she's the KEY, he just looks worse and worse. Guess he finally woke up!!!

[W_D_1]

To add to the list of physical evidence...I would think the cell phone records of all including Misty, Tommy, Ron, Timmy, etc. would be undeniable physical evidence. If she was out and about...pinging all over....when she was supposed to be asleep...IMO


I think if Misty's phone pinged anywhere other than around the home that night she would have been arrested. The police wouldn't need witnesses placing her out of the home with pings.

[Pomme]

-Harass, threaten, or cause distress or discomfort upon another TruTV message board or chat participant, user or other individual entity;


http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?p=12810474#post12810474

Its against TOS to harass me-
There was no harassment here. Merely a response to your points.

BTW, Viva, I'm not necessarily discounting your opinion that Ron has something to do with this. What I take issue with is your opinion that Misty doesn't, and that she is somehow so in fear for her life that she can't speak the truth. I can't agree with this at all.

I do see, however, that you are very sensitive to anyone disagreeing with you. This is the second time in a short period that you've accused someone of attacking or harassing you, when it appears to be rational discourse.

Let's keep rationally discoursing! :thumbup:

[HouseOfClark]

The sickest thing to me is the reasoning-

FOX 30 Jacksonville reports on their website that Brandon Beardsley, the attorney for Ronald Cummings, says the emotional strain of the case has finally taken its toll on the couple and they haven’t been able to go anywhere without being recognized or questioned about Haleigh.

http://ow.ly/t101

I mean, give me a break- too bad people are asking you about Haleigh, boo hoo- What does he expect?

jmo

That's the reason?

Oh good grief!

He said the same thing on the day he got the tattoo - "I can't do what I want without cameras around".

JMO

[KittyMom]

And somehow, Ron must not think shes an enemy anymore, since they are divorcing, even though cops are pretty adamant shes (still) the key-

Makes no sense-
jmo

I believe that CW has let her feelings be known about posters reading the minds of the folks involved in this case. But you already know that. :rolleyes:

[Justice4all]

I doubt anyone seriously thinks that Ronald Cummings hurt his daughter or had anything to do with her missing.

Well i've seen a few around here that have flat out said Ron killed Haleigh and Misty and his whole family helped hide her.


IMO they have an over active imagination.

[EMAA]

For what it's worth, all police codes are not the same. Certainly the ones shown here are not the same as the ones where I live. Yes, there are some, the 10-4 and simple ones but not all.

Secondly, I've been thinking about something here. What if Misty did leave the property through the back door, left the lights off, and snuck
off into the nite with her male friend. During that time her brother came over to check on her, not finding her at home he took Haleigh and did whatever. Maybe he placed the block at the back door to scare Misty when she came back. When she saw that she freaked, it was at this time she found Haleigh missing.

Such a sad tale, whatever took place that evening. jmo

[Scampi]

I think if Misty's phone pinged anywhere other than around the home that night she would have been arrested. The police wouldn't need witnesses placing her out of the home with pings.

Very doubtful, imo, because LE would first have to prove that Misty had the cell phone.

[MomofaMarine]

Kids in Peril Blog


http://ow.ly/t1xp

[Texas48]

LMAO! (Sorry, you just tickle me.)

First: You can call foul if you wish, but no one but Ron and Misty know if this is a hoax or not.

Second: Ron is not the one telling the media she is the enemy (ok he did quote an old saying regarding keeping your enemies closer), but LE is the one saying she is holding back the truth.
LE is the one saying she is inconsistent.
LE is the one saying the evidence doesn't match up.
LE is the one who has never swayed in their belief she is not telling the "complete" truth.

The only way Misty can avoid all that is to either divorce LE or finally tell the truth.

As for a better life...........well, that's still a crap shoot for her. IMO
ALL good points Texan...

[seeker]

I believe that CW has let her feelings be known about posters reading the minds of the folks involved in this case. But you already know that. :rolleyes:

Though this was not addressed to me, I would like to know what in the world you are talking about. Are you being facetious, or did the moderator actually tell us posters her feelings about "reading the minds of the folks involved in this case?"

[Texas48]

Not adding about the blankets because we don't know for sure.

Anything else??? Thanks for the add WD1
Katie..there was a section of the MH wall removed by LE..beside the water heater..

[seeker]

Katie..there was a section of the MH wall removed by LE..beside the water heater..

Could this be the area that was reportedly punched by Ronald Cummings before the officers arrived in response to Misty and Ron's 911 call at 3:27am of February 10, 2009?

[ms1950]

Ron Cummings Files For Divorce

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/10/06/haleigh-cummings-case-ron-cummings-files-for-divorce-from-misty/

[Justice4all]

Though this was not addressed to me, I would like to know what in the world you are talking about. Are you being facetious, or did the moderator actually tell us posters her feelings about "reading the minds of the folks involved in this case?"


Yes she did a few days ago.

[msgatorslayer]

Ron Cummings Files For Divorce

http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/10/06/haleigh-cummings-case-ron-cummings-files-for-divorce-from-misty/

From your link -

Ron Cummings will be giving an exclusive interview this evening on the Nancy Grace Show, 8PM EST on the HLN network

Maybe he will finally come out and speak about what is really on his mind.

[Lqqkout]

There was no harassment here. Merely a response to your points.

BTW, Viva, I'm not necessarily discounting your opinion that Ron has something to do with this. What I take issue with is your opinion that Misty doesn't, and that she is somehow so in fear for her life that she can't speak the truth. I can't agree with this at all.

I do see, however, that you are very sensitive to anyone disagreeing with you. This is the second time in a short period that you've accused someone of attacking or harassing you, when it appears to be rational discourse.

Let's keep rationally discoursing! :thumbup:

How very true !!!

[Elle]

Though this was not addressed to me, I would like to know what in the world you are talking about. Are you being facetious, or did the moderator actually tell us posters her feelings about "reading the minds of the folks involved in this case?"


Hi Seeker. Coldwater mentioned it in the thread from 9/21 post #10

[Justice4all]

From your link -

Ron Cummings will be giving an exclusive interview this evening on the Nancy Grace Show, 8PM EST on the HLN network

Maybe he will finally come out and speak about what is really on his mind.

I really hope he does.

[Elle]

From your link -

Ron Cummings will be giving an exclusive interview this evening on the Nancy Grace Show, 8PM EST on the HLN network

Maybe he will finally come out and speak about what is really on his mind.

Maybe, I tend to think though he will not say too much.
imoo

[Lqqkout]

For what it's worth, all police codes are not the same. Certainly the ones shown here are not the same as the ones where I live. Yes, there are some, the 10-4 and simple ones but not all.

Secondly, I've been thinking about something here. What if Misty did leave the property through the back door, left the lights off, and snuck
off into the nite with her male friend. During that time her brother came over to check on her, not finding her at home he took Haleigh and did whatever. Maybe he placed the block at the back door to scare Misty when she came back. When she saw that she freaked, it was at this time she found Haleigh missing.

Such a sad tale, whatever took place that evening. jmo

I think that is very possible except that when she returned, why would she leave the door still propped open?

[ms1950]

Let's not forget this incident not so long ago...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=142937&catid=3

[msgatorslayer]

Maybe, I tend to think though he will not say too much.
imoo

I'm just hoping for a change of pace with him on the NG show. I'm getting my hopes up, to high, more than likely, thinking that HE called NG to announce this news and had some other things to say as well.

But you're probably right in that he'll act like he always does. Especially if NG called him, wanting him to be on her show, cause of the divorce talk. He'll see it as publicity for Haleigh and go on the show, not saying much of anything. Especially when NG questions him about his GF at the time - turned wife - who will now be his ex, I guess.

[seeker]

Hi Seeker. Coldwater mentioned it in the thread from 9/21 post #10

Thanks, Elle,

I didn't remember that. Man, we have to be so careful. Off to read.

[Justice4all]

Let's not forget this incident not so long ago...

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/local/news-article.aspx?storyid=142937&catid=3

I'm confused what does this have to do with Haleigh?


I'm so glad Ron's getting out of that dysfunctional family.


MOO

[Lqqkout]

From your link -

Ron Cummings will be giving an exclusive interview this evening on the Nancy Grace Show, 8PM EST on the HLN network

Maybe he will finally come out and speak about what is really on his mind.

I don't see this happening at all. It was said that they are still on friendly terms. I still don't think Ron is ready to confront her as she will disappear and he won't want that. He still needs her to be available. I don't believe he nor his mother will even now let this charade stop. They still need Misty to tell the truth.

[seeker]

I don't see this happening at all. It was said that they are still on friendly terms. I still don't think Ron is ready to confront her as she will disappear and he won't want that. He still needs her to be available. I don't believe he nor his mother will even now let this charade stop. They still need Misty to tell the truth.

HaLeigh needs EVERYONE to tell the truth!

[Justice4all]

I don't see this happening at all. It was said that they are still on friendly terms. I still don't think Ron is ready to confront her as she will disappear and he won't want that. He still needs her to be available. I don't believe he nor his mother will even now let this charade stop. They still need Misty to tell the truth.

IMO Misty will never tell the truth because she would have to tattle tail on herself.

[Elle]

I'm just hoping for a change of pace with him on the NG show. I'm getting my hopes up, to high, more than likely, thinking that HE called NG to announce this news and had some other things to say as well.

But you're probably right in that he'll act like he always does. Especially if NG called him, wanting him to be on her show, cause of the divorce talk. He'll see it as publicity for Haleigh and go on the show, not saying much of anything. Especially when NG questions him about his GF at the time - turned wife - who will now be his ex, I guess.

And if luck should have it that he starts talking, most assuredly Nancy will interrupt. IMOO

[Elle]

Thanks, Elle,

I didn't remember that. Man, we have to be so careful. Off to read.



Oh, your welcome! I hardly ever get to help so I am happy I could!

[Justice4all]

Like the many rumors, gossip and false information that gets posted here. MO

My favorite falsey is well he must have went to work and then left work to go help hide Haleighs body....I seriously have no clue how people come up with some of this baloney.


MOO

[Dunlurken]

I totally disagree. I'm glad Ron's getting a divorce. From day one i felt like misty harmed haleigh and i hope Justice will be served soon.

I've never heard anything from LE about Ron lying so i have no reason not believe him.


MOO

Just said on HLN, Ron has not filed for divorce. (Sorry, I've been cooking dinner.)

[Lqqkout]

HaLeigh needs EVERYONE to tell the truth!



Absolutely. And I wonder if Tommy is not involved up to his eyeballs?

[Elle]

Does Ron's sister live nearby? I never hear anything of her.

[Lqqkout]

Does Ron's sister live nearby? I never hear anything of her.

Nor anything about his father.

[Elle]

Nor anything about his father.

Yea, nothing about his father. Is he alive?

[seeker]

Absolutely. And I wonder if Tommy is not involved up to his eyeballs?

Really? I haven't thought that Tommy has anything to do with HaLeigh missing, other than being Misty's brother. If you care to respond to the question, what do you think his involvement is?

[seeker]

Does Ron's sister live nearby? I never hear anything of her.

No idea if she lives nearby, but somehow she has managed to stay out of the spotlight.

[Justice4all]

Just said on HLN, Ron has not filed for divorce. (Sorry, I've been cooking dinner.)

Yeah that's what i heard his lawyer say earlier.

[SilentSanity]

For what it's worth, all police codes are not the same. Certainly the ones shown here are not the same as the ones where I live. Yes, there are some, the 10-4 and simple ones but not all.

Secondly, I've been thinking about something here. What if Misty did leave the property through the back door, left the lights off, and snuck
off into the nite with her male friend. During that time her brother came over to check on her, not finding her at home he took Haleigh and did whatever. Maybe he placed the block at the back door to scare Misty when she came back. When she saw that she freaked, it was at this time she found Haleigh missing.

Such a sad tale, whatever took place that evening. jmo


Responding to your theory on what happened that night, I have to say, that is my strongest theory so far, though not my only lol.

Only thing is I think if her phone pinged anywhere other than the MH area, wouldn't LE have been able to arrest her on that alone (not being at the MH as she states)? Idk for sure, of course, but going with that, she must've had her phone turned off during that time, or was close enough to the MH for the phone to have the same pings. Where could she have been....

The other theory I'm working on is she medicated HaLeigh to help her sleep and something went wrong and Tommy and or Timmy and or cousin Joe came to help her...

Pretty much all my theories have her family involved. Assuming Misty didn't go out and a random SO go in and take HaLeigh, I don't see how she'd do it without her family, but that's just me.....

[Justice4all]

Yea, nothing about his father. Is he alive?

Yes he's alive and helped search for Haleigh and he raised money for her search when she first went missing.

[Elle]

No idea if she lives nearby, but somehow she has managed to stay out of the spotlight.



It still seems strange to me, I almost forgot he had a sister. I think I saw her once in the very beginning.

[Justice4all]

Really? I haven't thought that Tommy has anything to do with HaLeigh missing, other than being Misty's brother. If you care to respond to the question, what do you think his involvement is?



If Tommy's not involved why did he wait 7 months to tell the police he went over to check on Misty and she wasn't home?

[Elle]

Yes he's alive and helped search for Haleigh and he raised money for her search when she first went missing.

Thank you. I did not know that.

[Justice4all]

It still seems strange to me, I almost forgot he had a sister. I think I saw her once in the very beginning.

How many times have you seen Crystals boyfriend or siblings on tv?

[Justice4all]

Thank you. I did not know that.

here you go


http://www.wftv.com/news/18831155/detail.html


It's all about my granddaughter. This is the first time I've spoken to you. I'm not one to get in front of the camera. I'm just telling you anyone who's got her, please let her go," said Lester Cummings.

[HouseOfClark]

If Tommy's not involved why did he wait 7 months to tell the police he went over to check on Misty and she wasn't home?

Is it a FACT that he waited 7 months to tell police he went over there that night?

Then again, why did Ron wait 7 months to tell LE he even called him?

JMO

[SilentSanity]

If Tommy's not involved why did he wait 7 months to tell the police he went over to check on Misty and she wasn't home?


I would like to hear a logical answer to that one too! He kept it from LE to protect himself or Misty. I can't think of another logical reason. And if he's protecting Misty, he's protecting himself because I don't see her pulling this off without family involved.

Unless he's protecting Misty and Timmy, Idk, and don't care. Lock em all up and sort it out later, IMO. That'll get em talking lol

[Elle]

How many times have you seen Crystals boyfriend or siblings on tv?


Hi
I was not comparing families. I asked a question and stated an opinion.

[seeker]

If Tommy's not involved why did he wait 7 months to tell the police he went over to check on Misty and she wasn't home?

I'm much more concerned that Ron failed to mention in every media interview recounting the entire day and night of February 9, 2009, and early morning of February 10, 2009 HIS call to Tommy's house that night,wondering where Misty was (and his children, I hope). I am concerned that he never mentioned the over twenty calls he made to Misty that night, unable to reach her.

We have no idea what either Ron or Tommy told LE, nor when; whether either one would have ever told about their conversation(s) and Tommy checking on Misty, had there not been the new "eyes" questioning everybody's phone records and Tommy getting arrested for theft.

my thoughts

[Elle]

here you go


http://www.wftv.com/news/18831155/detail.html

Thank you for this.

[SilentSanity]

Is it a FACT that he waited 7 months to tell police he went over there that night?

Then again, why did Ron wait 7 months to tell LE he even called him?

JMO


It's been stated LE knew of the phone calls (probably cuz they had the records IMO). What they did not know about is Tommy going over that night. LE came out at the time Tommy was locked up and made that announcement.

I'd think if he told them that from the beginning, he'd say it. It's not like this family doesn't give out interviews, I think Lindsy would've defended her husband with the truth, if it were the case. No the Croslins aren't going against LE's word that he told them while locked up, more than likely because it's the truth...

[Justice4all]

I'm much more concerned that Ron failed to mention in every media interview recounting the entire day and night of February 9, 2009, and early morning of February 10, 2009 HIS call to Tommy's house that night,wondering where Misty was (and his children, I hope). I am concerned that he never mentioned the over twenty calls he made to Misty that night, unable to reach her.

We have no idea what either Ron or Tommy told LE, nor when; whether either one would have ever told about their conversation(s) and Tommy checking on Misty, had there not been the new "eyes" questioning everybody's phone records and Tommy getting arrested for theft.

my thoughts






Well i don't really give a rats behind what Ron tells the MEDIA ....I only care what he tells LE and i think he's been working with them from day one.


but LE said Tommy finally told them this story AFTER he was arrested. They did not say they had never heard the story. I have to wonder if they finally told Tommy hey we know Ron called you.

Seeker we all know how you feel about Ron and his WHOLE family but IMO you have tunnel vision.

I used to think Crystal was involved but after LE said she wasn't a suspect i put her on the bottom of the list right next to Ron.

MOO

[dustyk]

Well i don't really give a rats behind what Ron tells the MEDIA ....I only care what he tells LE and i think he's been working with them from day one.


but LE said Tommy finally told them this story AFTER he was arrested. They did not say they had never heard the story. I have to wonder if they finally told Tommy hey we know Ron called you.

Seeker we all know how you feel about Ron and his WHOLE family but IMO you have tunnel vision.

I used to think Crystal was involved but after LE said she wasn't a suspect i put her on the bottom of the list right next to Ron.

MOO
Speaking of RAT's Behind....does Ronald ever tell the truth?

[dustyk]

So i'll take that as a NO



because LE have said over and over Misty has lied to them and i'm sure they would say the same if Ron lied to them.


MOO
Ronald has clammed up with LE especially since the fight...wonder why...JMO

[Justice4all]

Ronald has clammed up with LE especially since the fight...wonder why...JMO

Not true at all. In fact it was after the fight he took in his phone records again for them.

[seeker]

Did Ron lie to LE?
Answering your question, though I'm not Grace:

How could we possibly know what Ron did or did not say to any Law Enforcement officer?

[Justice4all]

Answering your question, though I'm not Grace:

How could we possibly know what Ron did or did not say to any Law Enforcement officer?


Same way we know Misty's lying to the LE....LE would tell us. :thumbup:

[panman]

I'm much more concerned that Ron failed to mention in every media interview recounting the entire day and night of February 9, 2009, and early morning of February 10, 2009 HIS call to Tommy's house that night,wondering where Misty was (and his children, I hope). I am concerned that he never mentioned the over twenty calls he made to Misty that night, unable to reach her.

We have no idea what either Ron or Tommy told LE, nor when; whether either one would have ever told about their conversation(s) and Tommy checking on Misty, had there not been the new "eyes" questioning everybody's phone records and Tommy getting arrested for theft.

my thoughts



Since we have no idea what either Ron or Tommy told LE, then why are you much more concerned on why Ron never said anything to the media? Maybe just maybe on the 9th/10th he was probably too upset/panicky to think of every nuance. Maybe just maybe LE asked him not to say certain things.
jmo

[seeker]

Same way we know Misty's lying to the LE....LE would tell us. :thumbup:

Not necessarily. In fact, they most probably would NOT tell us about Ron. They have been very vague regarding him.

Law Enforcement investigators and spokespeople owe us nothing. LE owes HaLeigh, and whatever they choose and do not choose to reveal publicly is completely up to their discretion.

[CFMom]

It still seems strange to me, I almost forgot he had a sister. I think I saw her once in the very beginning.

Maybe shes a private person.

[seeker]

How do you know he knew she wasn't there... could be she just wasn't answering the phone... He called Tommy's to ask if Misty was there.. I have not read anywhere the he asked if anyone knew where she was... I love how stuff gets worded to suit a purpose.. to heck with fact.. I give you credit, you are one of the best at doing this...


It's time to say goodnight.. the baiters are here and the board will get shut down again... have a great night everyone...

Which begs the question. If a father is looking for the babysitter of his children and thought she might be somewhere other than at home, WHY does he state that he DID NOT ask the babysitter's brother to go and check up on his two young children when he had him on the phone?

[panman]

Answering your question, though I'm not Grace:

How could we possibly know what Ron did or did not say to any Law Enforcement officer?


Then please go back to post #278 and tell that poster.

[CFMom]

Haleigh Cummings is still missing. :sad:

[panman]

Which begs the question. If a father is looking for the babysitter of his children and thought she might be somewhere other than at home, WHY does he state that he DID NOT ask the babysitter's brother to go and check up on his two young children when he had him on the phone?


Maybe he thought she took the kids and walked over to her brothers. Since probably being told she wasn't there, then he probably thought she isn't answering the phone because they had a squabble?

[Lqqkout]

Is it a FACT that he waited 7 months to tell police he went over there that night?

Then again, why did Ron wait 7 months to tell LE he even called him?

JMO


Where did you hear that?
I believe LE knew who Ron called and who called Ron from the start. LE had his cell phone. Why LE did not follow up on Tommy's calls is beyond me.

[seeker]

Since we have no idea what either Ron or Tommy told LE, then why are you much more concerned on why Ron never said anything to the media? Maybe just maybe on the 9th/10th he was probably too upset/panicky to think of every nuance. Maybe just maybe LE asked him not to say certain things.
jmo

I'm more concerned about Ron because he is HaLeigh's father and we have gotten to know him much better than we have Tommy.

Ron has had all this time to tell LE about this call to Tommy. LE has made it appear that they believe Tommy's story about checking on Misty, because Ron called looking for her.

Law Enforcement could have asked Ron, Tommy, Misty, or anyone NOT to say certain things. I don't think that's the case though, based on all we have to watch, read, and observe, since that 911 call stating that a child had been stolen.

I will state clearly that just the word "stole" used in regards to a man's daughter caused me to suspect that this father could be involved in whatever crime was committed against this precious, ill, helpless five-year-old girl.

My OPINIONS

[Lqqkout]

Originally Posted by GraceOMalley
Ronald Cummings has stated on national TV that he doesn't think Misty left the trailer that night. Was he lying? If so, why?

MO

hammer Good post CFMom...

[Lqqkout]

And it keeps going on. Can't figure out why its allowed. Maybe some are trying to get us shut down again.
jmo

Just like last night. Same posters same thing. I'm outta here.

[seeker]

Maybe he thought she took the kids and walked over to her brothers. Since probably being told she wasn't there, then he probably thought she isn't answering the phone because they had a squabble?

Who is more important? Misty, the girlfriend OR the two young children and their babysitter, Misty?

What caring, concerned parent would not have BEGGED Misty's brother, Tommy -or anyone else he knew- to please locate the babysitter and his two young children, knowing that wherever Misty was there would be his children? Or worse, had they been left alone?

His attorney has publicly and emphatically stated that Ron DID call to ask if Misty was at Tommy's house, but that Ron DID NOT ask Tommy to look for Misty, and by inference, his two young children.

It is completely beyond my belief that this could be a true accounting, unless this man cares nothing for his children.

These are my strong OPINIONS and beliefs.

[panman]

I'm more concerned about Ron because he is HaLeigh's father and we have gotten to know him much better than we have Tommy.

Ron has had all this time to tell LE about this call to Tommy. LE has made it appear that they believe Tommy's story about checking on Misty, because Ron called looking for her.

Law Enforcement could have asked Ron, Tommy, Misty, or anyone NOT to say certain things. I don't think that's the case though, based on all we have to watch, read, and observe, since that 911 call stating that a child had been stolen.

I will state clearly that just the word "stole" used in regards to a man's daughter caused me to suspect that this father could be involved in whatever crime was committed against this precious, ill, helpless five-year-old girl.

My OPINIONS


Just because you don't think thats the case, doesn't make it so. If anyone believes they know someone from snippets of their life, then does that mean I know someone from their posting?

[panman]

Who is more important? Misty, the girlfriend OR the two young children and their babysitter, Misty?

What caring, concerned parent would not have BEGGED Misty's brother, Tommy -or anyone else he knew- to please locate the babysitter and his two young children, knowing that wherever Misty was there would be his children? Or worse, had they been left alone?

His attorney has publicly and emphatically stated that Ron DID call to ask if Misty was at Tommy's house, but that Ron DID NOT ask Tommy to look for Misty, and by inference, his two young children.

It is completely beyond my belief that this could be a true accounting, unless this man cares nothing for his children.

These are my strong OPINIONS and beliefs.

Don't go getting all high and mighty. I thought I answered to the best of my ability, and if that don't work for you, walk a minute in Ron's shoes then tell me.

Your last sentence is uncalled for and it makes no matter to me whether its a strong opinion and belief or not.
And that is my strong OPINION and BELIEF.

[Justice4all]

Not necessarily. In fact, they most probably would NOT tell us about Ron. They have been very vague regarding him.

Law Enforcement investigators and spokespeople owe us nothing. LE owes HaLeigh, and whatever they choose and do not choose to reveal publicly is completely up to their discretion.


LE have said Ron is NOT a suspect.....doesn't sound vegue to me.


and of course LE doesn't owe us anything.........Nor does Ron....

[seeker]

Just because you don't think thats the case, doesn't make it so. If anyone believes they know someone from snippets of their life, then does that mean I know someone from their posting?


Panman,

I don't see the comparison. We have so much to look at, listen to, read, observe of this man, Ronald L. Cummings.

I agree with you, that what I think doesn't make it so.

There is ONE Truth in this and hopefully it will be discovered, and finally those responsible for the Crime Against HaLeigh will be punished.

[Justice4all]

I'm more concerned about Ron because he is HaLeigh's father and we have gotten to know him much better than we have Tommy.

Ron has had all this time to tell LE about this call to Tommy. LE has made it appear that they believe Tommy's story about checking on Misty, because Ron called looking for her.

Law Enforcement could have asked Ron, Tommy, Misty, or anyone NOT to say certain things. I don't think that's the case though, based on all we have to watch, read, and observe, since that 911 call stating that a child had been stolen.

I will state clearly that just the word "stole" used in regards to a man's daughter caused me to suspect that this father could be involved in whatever crime was committed against this precious, ill, helpless five-year-old girl.

My OPINIONS


BBM


What word did you want him to use?

[Texas48]

If you are truly a grieving father, searching for your stolen daughter why would you choose your words so carefully? Here you have the whole nation watching, listening to you: Why be vague?

Why would Ron play with words with his daughter's life in the balance?BBM
Because LE told him to..?

[baywench]

I've been gone a couple of days, come back and there is no thread! And I see postings that Ron and Misty are divorcing? If so YEAH!! WHOOPEE! Now the fur will fly. Now we will get the dirt. jmo

[Tracian]

Nancy is back, and the show just started.

[sunstar]

Hi all! I just turned Nancy's show on and find out RC has filed for divorce!! :biggrin: <---MOO

[FoxySly]

Just because Misty may pout Ron is divorcing her.....That alone won't alter 'evidence'.

I'm pretty sure LE and investigators are going to scratch a bit deeper than the broken heart of a woman scorned. . :rolleyes:

MOO

Yup, just like they did to those hundreds of 'tips' from scorned evil females the first few weeks of this case. Those who would put their kind of evil before a precious little missing 5 year old... PATHETIC!!!

And those that can't see the truth through their lies because they dislike a Daddy so much who has ALWAYS been there for his precious little girl & Son... PATHETIC!!!

All the lying posts in the world will never equal 1 TRUTH.

Sad, that somes STRONG DISLIKE for Ron makes them not care about who's really guilty, they only want RON to be punished no matter WHO is guilty... BEYOND UNFORGIVABLE!!!

Justice for HaLeigh!!! No matter who!!!

Sly

~

[nurseRebecca]

Nancy just said that Ron passed a lie detector test ? is that confirmed ?

[KaraokeDiva]

Can someone call and ask Ronald "why"?

Why in the world did he marry Misty??

I'm not at all surprised by the divorce but I'm still baffled by the marriage.

[sunstar]

RC is on the show and saying part of the reason they're getting a divorce is because everywhere they go people stare at them. Then after a few questions by NG he says they just need to go their separate ways.