10/5 thru 10/7

[anais2005]

Monday 5th October,

morning all,

wonder how many more witnesses the pros has

[aproudmom]

Good Morning everyone hope you had a wonderful weekend.
so the det was reaching for his weapon when the guy had the outburst the other day..getting ready to replay it on IS:ohmy:

[aproudmom]

no dreads for LL...boy bet he will miss all that hair...not as much as the family of shay misses her:angry:

[riohouse]

Am I the only one who thinks this cop was cocky on the stand Friday? I also think that if this guy gets off, it will be this cops fault!! I thought he was playing to the camera and loving every minute of it.

imo

Riohouse

[aproudmom]

looks like next live trial will be a good one to follow also..

[anais2005]

Am I the only one who thinks this cop was cocky on the stand Friday? I also think that if this guy gets off, it will be this cops fault!! I thought he was playing to the camera and loving every minute of it.

imo

Riohouse

I think his repeated assertion that there were only 1 shooter with an assault rifle was arrogant, his star witness has said from day 1 there were 2 men firing at him with assault rifles, and just because he found no evidence he has decided only 1 shooter with assault rifle, thus telling the jury that the star witness is a liar,

[aproudmom]

Am I the only one who thinks this cop was cocky on the stand Friday? I also think that if this guy gets off, it will be this cops fault!! I thought he was playing to the camera and loving every minute of it.

imo

Riohouse

I am not sure if it was just his demeanor I missed some of his testimony..not sure how everyone else feels.

[anais2005]

looks like next live trial will be a good one to follow also..

is that the hughes trial?

[aproudmom]

I think his repeated assertion that there were only 1 shooter with an assault rifle was arrogant, his star witness has said from day 1 there were 2 men firing at him with assault rifles, and just because he found no evidence he has decided only 1 shooter with assault rifle, thus telling the jury that the star witness is a liar,

if only they had all the guns I guess it might have helped...

[anais2005]

if only they had all the guns I guess it might have helped...

They knew what had happened almost immediately, that a young girl was dead so they knew they had to get rid of them, if it had stayed just a shoot out between two idiots who thought it was the only way to deal with someone you had a "beef" with they would have probably kept the guns,

[summit]

I am glad I am not the only one who felt the Police Man thought highly of Him self. I do believe Darling is gulity as sin. But I do believe there was a third shooter who has gotten away with a terrible thing.. .

[therealpaul]

good morning...when does the next trial begin?...i hope it goes more smoothly than this one, in so far as us getting live coverage...this one has been really choppy...i realize that's how it goes sometimes, but this one seems to be one of the worst...

[phylcore]

I thought he was alright giving how the Defense Attn was grilling him,but isn't he one First 48 or am I wrong?If so he is used to being "on camera".Just MOO...........

[phylcore]

Excuse me,Hello to All...................

[RootBeer]

Good Morning

Yes Sir

[anais2005]

Possible third shooter testifying, denies it all of course, and uses the tried and tested I was home with my momma alibi,

next ME, Bruce Heimer (sp)

[RootBeer]

I am glad I am not the only one who felt the Police Man thought highly of Him self. I do believe Darling is gulity as sin. But I do believe there was a third shooter who has gotten away with a terrible thing.. .


I fully agree :thumbup:

[therealpaul]

if he was only interviewed a couple months ago, as a mother i certainly couldn't remember if my son was home on a certain day that long ago...no matter what had happened on that day...

[anais2005]

so she was hit by a ricochet bullet, or by a bullet that first passed through an object before it hit her

[anais2005]

wonder if the big dummy leaning on the wall of the court is to be used to recreate the shooting

[anais2005]

Something just struck me...If there were 3 shooters, as LeRoy and DD say...and 2 of the three were firing on LeRoy..Wound it have been LeRoy who was actually shooting in self defense?..

LMS:confused:

not if Leroy shot first, doesn't matter how many shoot at him, if he shot first anybody he was shooting at have the right to defend themselves,

[anais2005]

no defence questions of ME, good move,

[anais2005]

Are you talking about that huge dummy carrying a lance of some sort?..I first thought it was a decor thingy..looks like its from the "Crusade" era...:laugh:

LMS

reading prior felony of Darling into evidence from 2005, no mention of what it was for, state rests

back to the dummy, camera keeps focusing on it , so I thought maybe they were going to use it

lunch, back at 12.45

[RootBeer]

no defence questions of ME, good move,

I just knew he (def) was going to do that. :thumbup:

[anais2005]

I guess thats the thing I am not buying..LeRoy shooting first..

From the evidence I heard, LeRoy walking down the runway..as described by "Mr' Entertainment"..and DD was on a porch..and was described to have yelled to LeRoy while walking away, D walks off porch carrying his AKA..and aproach LeRoy ( no one described LeRoy approaching DD on his porch)..then bullets started flying...LeRoy ran away, and DD rn into house and dumped his AKA with or with another person....

I Apologize if this conflicts with some who believe just because coming to that complex (LR that is) was alone was enough intimidation to provoke this shootout..Anyway, I just dont buy that..

LMS

only one person saw the shootings who has testified, the female witnesses who was scared, she said she saw redrock fire first, but she has withdrawn that statement and now says she did not see the shooting, so the jury will have to decide if she was telling the truth initially and is now withdrawing her testimony under duress, the other witness who saw 3 shooters did not see the actual shooting only the aftermath,

so all the jury have is one witness who says she saw shooting now says she did not, they also have one wit saying 2 shooters, and 1 saying 3 shooters, once again jury has to decide who is truthful,

[RootBeer]

I think the jury is going to be questioning why the state is believing only parts of yellow man's story.

To me that means the rest of ym's story is lies and he should have to go to trial.

Insession was talking about the next trial. It is in MISSISSIPPI, not MI - no wonder I could not find anything about that trial the other day when CW first posted the locked forum.

[RootBeer]

Beth just said that Yellow Man is being called back by the defense.

I was so hoping that would happen. :thumbup:

[anais2005]

Beth just said that Yellow Man is being called back by the defense.

I was so hoping that would happen. :thumbup:

me too, I was suprised that the defence atty did not give yellowman a really good grilling in his cross

[RootBeer]

Insession is live with the courtroom, jury to enter.

no live stream yet.

[RootBeer]

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

[RootBeer]

Hummmm.Dont believe that last witness helped Defense..Why would they call her?

LMS

I believe the defense intended to get much more out of her but was squashed by the judge. :angry:

[anais2005]

I guess there is no one here now...too bad...anyway Det. Garcia's partner is on the stand now...discussing the pesky red hat again..and that stool....man...Guess, defense is trying to say those items werent discussed..therefore werent considered......I say so what?

LMS:laugh:

I say could have 3rd man DNA evidence on them, if there is a third man then he needs finding and arresting/charging, as he seems like the other two to be trigger happy, and he may feel the need to settle other scores with his gun

[RootBeer]

Won't the jury get every report to review in deliberations anyways?

[5swab5]

I guess there is no one here now...too bad...anyway Det. Garcia's partner is on the stand now...discussing the pesky red hat again..and that stool....man...Guess, defense is trying to say those items werent discussed..therefore werent considered......I say so what?

LMS:laugh:

I am so sick of hearing about stools, I'm ready to burn mine.

[anais2005]

break till 2.45pm

[anais2005]

Did I blink and miss it, did the defence rest?

they are discussing jury instructions

[RootBeer]

I am now tuned into the Hughes trial. I love that southern accent. :wub:

I think the defense may be waiting for Yellowman to arrive. just a guess.

[RootBeer]

I am now tuned into the Hughes trial. I love that southern accent. :wub:

I think the defense may be waiting for Yellowman to arrive. just a guess.

When I was talking about the southern accent, I was referring to the Prosecutor in the Hughes trial.

I think Beth just said that they are waiting for yellowman.

[RootBeer]

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

[DRJAN]

Who is this guy on the stand ? I came in a little late.

[RootBeer]

Who is this guy on the stand ? I came in a little late.

CNN started late also, so I missed his name and introduction.

This is getting real good. My baby mamma's house. lol

[DRJAN]

Is it me , or is this sounding like the Crayola Crayon Gang. Yellow Man, Red Man, Green Man. LOL

[RootBeer]

The defense rests :confused:

[anais2005]

defence rests

[5swab5]

The defense rests :confused:

Man, that was short and sweet. Think we will get a verdict today?

Saw on InSessions, that in the next trial, the jurors are sequestered. Ought to be interesting.

[RootBeer]

Man, that was short and sweet. Think we will get a verdict today?

Saw on InSessions, that in the next trial, the jurors are sequestered. Ought to be interesting.

I heard in court that the prosecution will have rebuttal and the judge told them to have their witnesses ready by 2pm tomorrow. The judge also told the jury to be there 9:15 am if I remember correctly. So I do not know what is going on first thing in the morning.

I am not sure if the closings will be Tuesday or Wednesday. I best guess the jury will get the case to deliberate no later than Thursday.

I am not sure if there are any lesser charges included. If this is a straight all or nothing on 2nd degree murder, this could end up a hung jury. jmo

[5swab5]

I heard in court that the prosecution will have rebuttal and the judge told them to have their witnesses ready by 2pm tomorrow. The judge also told the jury to be there 9:15 am if I remember correctly. So I do not know what is going on first thing in the morning.

I am not sure if the closings will be Tuesday or Wednesday. I best guess the jury will get the case to deliberate no later than Thursday.

I am not sure if there are any lesser charges included. If this is a straight all or nothing on 2nd degree murder, this could end up a hung jury. jmo


Thanks for the info. From 3PM on, after the INSession coverage ends, I am at the mercy of the posters here. Mañana!

[MoonFlwr]

I am now tuned into the Hughes trial. I love that southern accent. :wub:

I think the defense may be waiting for Yellowman to arrive. just a guess.

Is it being covered by CNN as well...or another station?

Thanks :)

[RootBeer]

Is it being covered by CNN as well...or another station?

Thanks :)

Yes, CNN was covering it yesterday and should again today.

[aproudmom]

Yes, CNN was covering it yesterday and should again today.

heck I missed yesterday on both ok this will be hard 2 live trials...yikes wont whine though better than a taped one

[aproudmom]

Good Morning everyone
just going to go ahead and put up live streaming link so it is handy...it says 11 the other one is also on there I posted it on that thread

11:00 a.m. ET - Tue October 06
FLORIDA VS DARLING MURDER TRIAL
Testimony continues in the trial of Damon Darling, who faces second-degree murder charges in cross fire shooting death of nine-year-old Sherdavia Jenkins
http://www.cnn.com/live/

[sofiesmom]

I might be way off on my take on the Darling case (I haven't been watching as diligently as I usually do), But I think there were three shooters, and I think it doesn't really matter whose bullet killed that sweet little girl. They're all responsible, imo.

The new MS trial looks very interesting.

[RootBeer]

I might be way off on my take on the Darling case (I haven't been watching as diligently as I usually do), But I think there were three shooters, and I think it doesn't really matter whose bullet killed that sweet little girl. They're all responsible, imo.

The new MS trial looks very interesting.

I agree on the three shooters and all are guilty. I am just not sure if it should be 2nd degree murder. I am not sure if there are lesser charges included.

[RootBeer]

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

[RootBeer]

wow the jury is going to view the crime scene this morning. :scared:

[RootBeer]

http://cbs4.com/local/Sherdavia.Jenkins.Damon.2.1230174.html

Oct 6, 2009 11:10 am US/Eastern

The jury in the Sherdavia Jenkins murder trial takes a tour of the neighborhood where the little girl was gunned down three years ago.

***There are 3 photos provided with this story***

[RootBeer]

Beth on Insession just said that court should start again in about 20 minutes. :thumbup:

[Bspotti!]

are those the jurors standing there in line? Who photographed the jurors?

[RootBeer]

are those the jurors standing there in line? Who photographed the jurors?

I am guessing it is a camera shot from a helicopter. No harm because no close ups.

[RootBeer]

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream4

[Bspotti!]

I am guessing it is a camera shot from a helicopter. No harm because no close ups.

Yep RB I see it's from above. But I have to say, if I saw this photo I could say, hey that's my neighbor! :eek:
I thought the jurors were never to be photographed. Defense could call for a mistrial.
I've never done this before now there are two trials on at the same time ttv is covering both lol!
Thanks for all the updates they are super helpful to read, these links on the case prior to. It is helpful to have the backstory and I like to read the local links too to see what the community is thinking!
This will be hard to keep UP!

[Bspotti!]

a lady just brought a large crashbox type blue tackle box into the court room. What's that for anyway?

[RootBeer]

a lady just brought a large crashbox type blue tackle box into the court room. What's that for anyway?

I think she is a sketch artist.

[RootBeer]

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3

[riohouse]

I am glad I am not the only one who felt the Police Man thought highly of Him self. I do believe Darling is gulity as sin. But I do believe there was a third shooter who has gotten away with a terrible thing.. .

Thank you! Leaving this as resonable doubt! I am not sure if I could convict someone even knowing this guy is gulity as sin,that lingering thought would haunt me. This case is disturbing eneough, the fact that they were also filiming a reality tv show and adding fictious dramatic effects for more dramtic tv is disgusting, my heart go's out to Shey's family.

riohouse

[riohouse]

Something just struck me...If there were 3 shooters, as LeRoy and DD say...and 2 of the three were firing on LeRoy..Wound it have been LeRoy who was actually shooting in self defense?..

LMS:confused:

What an astute observation!!

[aproudmom]

Something just struck me...If there were 3 shooters, as LeRoy and DD say...and 2 of the three were firing on LeRoy..Wound it have been LeRoy who was actually shooting in self defense?..

LMS:confused:

good question but they would say he shot first

[aproudmom]

Is it me , or is this sounding like the Crayola Crayon Gang. Yellow Man, Red Man, Green Man. LOL

:lol: omg just seen your post and lost it...lol

[aproudmom]

Just adding link to live streaming so it is handy....

11:00 a.m. ET - Wed October 07
FLORIDA VS DARLING MURDER TRIAL
Testimony continues in the trial of Damon Darling, who faces second-degree murder charges in cross fire shooting death of nine-year-old Sherdavia
http://www.cnn.com/live/

[aproudmom]

does anyone know why the other live trial was just closed?

[RootBeer]

does anyone know why the other live trial was just closed?

Good Morning

I have no idea why a thread was opened and then locked on the Hughes board. :confused:

[RootBeer]

Closing arguements this morning.

From what I understand, the judge is still deciding on some of the lesser charges included for this defendant.

[aproudmom]

Good Morning

I have no idea why a thread was opened and then locked on the Hughes board. :confused:

thanks just ignore my PM then

[RootBeer]

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream1

[RootBeer]

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream4

[aproudmom]

omg she looks like Linda K Baden:scared:

[anais2005]

anybody know what all the lesser includeds are?

[RootBeer]

anybody know what all the lesser includeds are?

for the murder in the 2nd, lesser is manslaughter

for attempted murder in the 2nd, lessers are aggrivated battery and aggrivated assualt.

I took notes. :thumbup:

[aproudmom]

anybody know what all the lesser includeds are?

They said on IS but I can not remember them. sorry

[aproudmom]

I think DD is a little bored he can not stop yawning bet the jury loves seeing that..lol..glad to hear that convicted felon was able to be told to the jurors

[anais2005]

for the murder in the 2nd, lesser is manslaughter

for attempted murder in the 2nd, lessers are aggrivated battery and aggrivated assualt.

I took notes. :thumbup:


Thanks, jury may discard the stand your ground on the premise that he was committing a crime by having the assault rifle during the incident,

stand your ground can be nullified if the one standing there ground is committing a crime

[aproudmom]

for the murder in the 2nd, lesser is manslaughter

for attempted murder in the 2nd, lessers are aggrivated battery and aggrivated assualt.

I took notes. :thumbup:

way to go Root your good:thumbup:

[aproudmom]

we are back live on other trial..

[RootBeer]

I think he is going to get manslaughter. jmo

[aproudmom]

I think he is going to get manslaughter. jmo

From what I have heard in this case I could see that also

[RootBeer]

I still think this defense lawyer reminds me of:


David Schwimmer
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001710/

[aproudmom]

IMO This lawyer is darn good at poking holes in this case from the closing I have heard from him, he has done a good job.

[aproudmom]

I still think this defense lawyer reminds me of:


David Schwimmer
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001710/

:ohmy: he does

[RootBeer]

:ohmy: he does

I wonder where he is from? Jersery? Philly?

[RootBeer]

I wonder if this defense lawyer was hired by Redrock or appointed. If he was appointed, Redrock really lucked out. jmo

[RootBeer]

Another break, judge says 5 minutes. Like that has ever happened. :laugh:

[RootBeer]

I dont know Root..maybe Damon's homey's held bake sales to raise money for this guy...:laugh:

LMS

Thanks, now I am craving cup cakes. :tonguewag:

[RootBeer]

I think a quick verdict will mean NG. jmo

[RootBeer]

Judge now starting instructions. So glad she decided not to take another break.

[RootBeer]

This Judge looks and sounds very familiar...Was it in another case..or has she appeared on a TV Crime show as a TH?...She certainly does enounce each word very clearly..

Listening to these instructions..I find it very dificult to find anything that excuses him for firing his weapon...??????

LMS

The judge is cool. I bet she is Italian. :thumbsup:

I am on the other side of the fence. I think Yellowman came to the Pork n Beans with a get away driver. I think that Redrock acted in self defense. According to the law in the State of Florida, I believe that Redrock acted in justifiable self-defense. I did not feel this way at the beginning of the trial, but I do now. jmo

[RootBeer]

OMG I think all three alternates excussed where men.

Jury to retire for deliberations.

I am second guessing - the Judge is Jewish.

[RootBeer]

My bolding~~

I most respectly have to disagree my friend Root...I have been listening to these instructions...and I have not heard anything that excuses Master Darling..LOL.In fact she broke down the stipulations that would justify Damon to even have access that gun and to fire it....Since from testimony LeRoy was witnessed to walk down that "Runway: (LOL) and it was DD who yelled ofter LeRoy....seen carrying his AKA..before any shots were fired....then for myself..it would have been rather stupid for LeRoy to start the shootout...Course that is only my take...

IF, as you believe DD gets off on this charge..then it will be a "Green Light" for all these thugs to just shoot and claim self defense later..and the LE and DA have to prove "Who shot when and why"...I doubt society can swallow that premise....I really dont believe this jury would justify DD for what he did...

Time will tell I guess..:wink:

LMS

I am not sure I agree with the laws of the State of Florida, but from what I understand, even low-life thugs like Redrock can defend themselves. The residents of Florida voted for their state law makers.

[RootBeer]

Judge told lawyers to leave their cell phone numbers and to stay near by in case of any jury questions. Otherwise, the Judge will not bother the jury until 7:30 pm to see how they are doing. Dinner was there ready for them when they left to deliberate.

[RootBeer]

You've got a thing about ones race and and nationality. It's followed you with your previous nics. Do you categorize your furry friends, as you do with the humans you berate on these forums?

what are my previous nics?

maybe we should take this outside? :laugh:

[warhorse46]

The judge is cool. I bet she is Italian. :thumbsup:

I am on the other side of the fence. I think Yellowman came to the Pork n Beans with a get away driver. I think that Redrock acted in self defense. According to the law in the State of Florida, I believe that Redrock acted in justifiable self-defense. I did not feel this way at the beginning of the trial, but I do now. jmo


I would agree with you except for one fact. Red Rock is a convicted felon on parole & because of that he is not allowed to possess or fire any kind of weapon much less an AK47. The stand your ground statute clearly states the person has no duty to retreat, may meet a threat with similar force (even deadly force) if he/she is not engaged in any kind of illegal activity. It is illegal for Red Rock (& Yellow Man for that matter) to have weapons in his possession.

[warhorse46]

I am not sure I agree with the laws of the State of Florida, but from what I understand, even low-life thugs like Redrock can defend themselves. The residents of Florida voted for their state law makers.


They cannot use weapons if they are convicted felons, that is illegal in Florida. Both men are convicted felons on parole.

[RootBeer]

They cannot use weapons if they are convicted felons, that is illegal in Florida. Both men are convicted felons on parole.

Actually, when the judge was reading the law to the jury, there were exceptions to that. Even ex-convicts can defend themselves.

[warhorse46]

Actually, when the judge was reading the law to the jury, there were exceptions to that. Even ex-convicts can defend themselves.



Not while they are on parole, they cannot have weapons in their possession---period. And the only way for an ex con to be able to possess weapons is to petition the board of pardons & parole to life that restriction but that can be done only after they successfully complete their parole. Yes ex cons can defend themselves but without weapons.

[warhorse46]

The jury has reached a verdict.

[digger]

The jury has reached a verdict.

OM Thanx.....:thumbsup: