10/1, 10/2

[?noanswer]

Another new month and still no news on what happened to Haleigh. Maybe this month will bring answers to her families. I don't know how they manage the day to day activities of living. JMO

[Dunlurken]

Well, at least we learned last night Misty is back home with Ron. And according to the Nancy Grace show (TN), her lawyer has told her to not come in for anymore questioning. JMO.

[TobyWong]

Thanks for the new thread. So sad that there's nothing going on w/ this case right now. In Link Queenie's last link, at the end misty says something like " was'nt at a party" Imo she is really believing her own version of what happened. It makes me crazy that all these media people sit near her or talk to her and just pander to her rambling on everything BUT what happened to Haleigh. I cannot take TN & ron talking in circles whenever asked direct questions. All I hope is that they are doing all of this so that they can find Haleigh but I just don't see it anymore.?? I'm left angry and confussed. Theres just to many smiles and taking care of themselves and not enough searching and screaming out for a lost daughter/grand daughter/niece. imo

[Dunlurken]

I find it interesting that Ron decided not to go to Universal. Wish I were a fly on the wall in that home. TN is in a major state of denial, and so is Ron, IMO.

Where is Haleigh? :crying:

No one can cover their tracks that well (speaking about whoever took her.)

[Viva4Haleigh]

Interesting bit from last nights Nancy Grace show-

GRACE: Really? There were so many conflicting reports about where she had been. Ms. Neves, again, you are stating that you believe she`s waiting for the OK from her lawyer to talk to police.

NEVES: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: OK. In light of the fact that her new stepchild, her little girl is missing and police want to talk to her, hopefully, to clear up questions and find the child, don`t you think she should be at the police station right now instead of waiting for a possible call from a lawyer?

NEVES: My personal opinion, that attorney should have made this trip six months ago, but I can`t tell that attorney how to do his job.

GRACE: But you can. I mean, she is with you. She is with you and Ronald at your home. You can. You and Ronald can talk to her.

NEVES: Yes, ma`am, we can, and we have. But we cannot make her attorney do anything.

GRACE: Ms. Neves, she said at one juncture that she believes up to four people were in the home the night Haleigh went missing, but then chalked it up to a dream-like interlude that she had. What does she say about that? Who were the people in the home that evening?

NEVES: Miss Nancy, I have not seen that. I have asked her about it. She says that that did not happen. You know, if I haven`t seen it and I can`t prove it, then I can`t actually confront her with something that she says did not happen.

GRACE: Ms. Neves, I don`t mean to grill you, but it just doesn`t all fit together. You`ve got her brother claiming he came to the home that evening at 9:30 to 9:45. She said she didn`t go to sleep until 10:00 PM. He says he banged on the door to get in touch with her and nobody came. How does she respond to that? Was she really home?

NEVES: She still stands firm on the fact that she was at home. To me, it`s a very dysfunctional family, and that`s the best way I can describe that. One minute, they -- you know, they say one thing, and then the next minute, they call and say, Well, I was sorry, you know, I didn`t mean to say that and we`ll do better next time. So I just don`t know what to think of the whole thing.



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/30/ng.01.html

[just4justice]

Well, at least we learned last night Misty is back home with Ron. And according to the Nancy Grace show (TN), her lawyer has told her to not come in for anymore questioning. JMO.

I'm guessing the attorney suggested she get away for a few days as he believes something maybe coming down. She has voluntarily gone in several times for questioning and now he is advising against it???? Must be he knows something. Lisa being returned to PC to tell all???? Speculation, yes and I guess we're not suppose to, but given the lack of any information coming forth what else can we do?

[iluvmua]

Do you think a book will be written about this case?

[Viva4Haleigh]

Do you think a book will be written about this case?

Probably several- I know of one that is already in progress, and who knows how the end will turn out here, but I bet it will be book worthy for sure-

jmo

[TobyWong]

Interesting bit from last nights Nancy Grace show-
snipped for space


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/30/ng.01.html

This is exactly the non answering that makes me crazy. I am so tired of the major players talking on national television like we, the people, are completely stupid. Does this grown woman think she sounds intelligent? Or concerned even? misty has done and said whatever she wants for 7 months and still the answers lie w/ her. But hey make sure she gets a little fun. (is'nt that what her life has been the past year or so, drugs and parties, getting to put on a wedding dress, not having to get a job...) jmo

[TobyWong]

I'm guessing the attorney suggested she get away for a few days as he believes something maybe coming down. She has voluntarily gone in several times for questioning and now he is advising against it???? Must be he knows something. Lisa being returned to PC to tell all???? Speculation, yes and I guess we're not suppose to, but given the lack of any information coming forth what else can we do?

Exactly. And did'nt misty go against her lawyers advise to go w/ Tim Miller? But now her mother in law says she needs to wait for said attorneys approval. I can really see all of them saying the same things a year from now, just going in circles w/o any resolution. So if ron is keeping his enemy close, how long would someone do that before you give in and say "ok I'm done playing, we still don't know anything, get out" a month, 6 months, a year??? To me this seems to be the only thing ron has actively done to find his missing daughter. And it's not working.

[just4justice]

Exactly. And did'nt misty go against her lawyers advise to go w/ Tim Miller? But now her mother in law says she needs to wait for said attorneys approval. I can really see all of them saying the same things a year from now, just going in circles w/o any resolution. So if ron is keeping his enemy close, how long would someone do that before you give in and say "ok I'm done playing, we still don't know anything, get out" a month, 6 months, a year??? To me this seems to be the only thing ron has actively done to find his missing daughter. And it's not working.

I think Lisa knows plenty and I hope they offer her a plea deal to spill her guts - one that she just can't refuse. She strikes me as the sort who would save her own sorry tail before her kids any day. Her parenting skills are glaringly obvious.

[Dunlurken]

I think Lisa knows plenty and I hope they offer her a plea deal to spill her guts - one that she just can't refuse. She strikes me as the sort who would save her own sorry tail before her kids any day. Her parenting skills are glaringly obvious.

I need to rethink Lisa a bit. She has no problem forging a check, so where are her scruples? I think that's what TN meant when she said the family is dysfunctional. The "family" would include Misty. JMO.

Who let's their child only go through the 6th or 8th grade (don't know which it is at this point)? Why wasn't CPS on her butt? (Lisa's).

[TaraCrazyHair]

I thought Ron and Misty were living with Annette Sykes? This Nancy Grace link above insinuates they are living with Teresa?

[TobyWong]

I think Lisa knows plenty and I hope they offer her a plea deal to spill her guts - one that she just can't refuse. She strikes me as the sort who would save her own sorry tail before her kids any day. Her parenting skills are glaringly obvious.

I agree that she'd throw her own child under the bus but I think she did that years ago and misty has learned to not trust her mother.jmo. So I don't think she "knows" anything. But I do think she'd say anything to help herself so who knows what will happen.

[Viva4Haleigh]

I need to rethink Lisa a bit. She has no problem forging a check, so where are her scruples? I think that's what TN meant when she said the family is dysfunctional. The "family" would include Misty. JMO.

Who let's their child only go through the 6th or 8th grade (don't know which it is at this point)? Why wasn't CPS on her butt? (Lisa's).

There is not one family in this case that is going to get any award for being a good parent, if you want to get technical Ron has an extensive arrest record, and so does his sister, so if we wanted to go tit for tat we could talk about all the families- no one is clean here, and the only think that should matter right now is that Haleigh went missing in Feb and the last person to see her has now married Haleighs daddy and has the Cummings family utmost support- and she is refusing to talk to the cops-basically- this is where the problem lays and this is what we should be focusing on-

Why is the Cummings family supporting Misty?

jmo

[Texas48]

Probably several- I know of one that is already in progress, and who knows how the end will turn out here, but I bet it will be book worthy for sure-

jmo
Who is the writer of the book?

[CANDYKISSES]

10-01-2009, 10:56 AM
Lynn Gweeny
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 4,633

REPORTER'S NOTES
TheSky 97 3.com
T J Hart
Posted: Wednesday, 30 September 2009 10:49PM

As for "where is Misty?" I sat next to Misty last night in the waiting room of a TV in Jacksonville, FL for 20 minutes just before we went on the air.

In fact, I had a long talk with her.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5337943.php

Thanks Lynn, I wonder who wanted TJ to beef it up? From my POV it probably boils down to TWO SHOW PRODUCERS/ANCHORS, but maybe he will tell us on one of the radio shows. :unsure:

Where has the integrity in reporting gone? I hope his posted word is a wake up call for more than just TJ. JMO

Hoping and praying for Haleigh to come home soon and prayers for all who love and miss her too. :wub:

[HouseOfClark]

Is Teresa Neves still being represented by Mark NeJames?

[Viva4Haleigh]

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5337943.php

REPORTER'S NOTES 10/1/09

[Tracian]

Is Teresa Neves still being represented by Mark NeJames?


I think NeJames was only her lawyer as a liason when Tim Miller came back.

[HouseOfClark]

I'm not sure Ms Neves is in any position to talk about dysfunctional families. :unsure:



Has Misty had this atty for 6 months? I didn't think she was represented by an atty in March-April. Another worthless answer full of misinformation.

I'm really tired of these people and their lies.

MO

IIRC, there were rumors of Misty having an attorney. But I think that's all it was - rumors. I don't believe she acquired an attorney until the fight/restraining order incidents. If she did, their identity was the best kept secret out there.

JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

Has Misty had this atty for 6 months? I didn't think she was represented by an atty in March-April. Another worthless answer full of misinformation.
(Snipped)
MO

We don't know if this attorney had offered their services prior to the time of announcement and was simply staying in touch until they reached an agreement or thought it would become necessary for service. Before labeling lies and misinformation, I would want to know how long the attorney had been in contact with Misty and neither one of us knows that IMO GOM. :wink:

[HouseOfClark]

I think NeJames was only her lawyer as a liason when Tim Miller came back.

But Tim hasn't officially "left" has he? She wouldn't need to go through NeJames to contact Tim would she?

I think Tim said he would hold a search in a couple of months, so we should be at the 2-3 weeks from now point.

JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

Is Teresa Neves still being represented by Mark NeJames?

I haven't seen a PR stating otherwise, and IIRC there was a press conference held when he parted ways with the last Florida case he was involved with. JMO.

[Texas48]

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5337943.php

REPORTER'S NOTES 10/1/09
Error on link..

[sickntired]

I wonder if Misty is allowed to watch NG or JVM. If you were Misty and you heard that Ron told a few people that he married her to "keep your enemies closer", wouldn't you split with your new husband. Why would you hang around if you knew they were saying these things?

On the other hand, I think that Ron and TN are publicly supporting Misty by not saying anything bad about her on the above shows as not to upset her. But even if your pretending to be a loving husband, do you grab their butt on the way out the door for Univeral?

None of it, and I mean none of it makes sense.

JMO

[Elle]

Error on link..


Strange, neither Viva's nor Lynn's links work anymore (linked to same article). They both worked a couple of minutes ago.

[?noanswer]

Strange, neither Viva's nor Lynn's links work anymore (linked to same article). They both worked a couple of minutes ago.

I think the article must have been removed. Wonder if TJH got a phone call from a legal dept. JMO

[Themis]

But Tim hasn't officially "left" has he? She wouldn't need to go through NeJames to contact Tim would she?

I think Tim said he would hold a search in a couple of months, so we should be at the 2-3 weeks from now point.

JMO
Misty took the lie detector test in Orlando on or about August 24.
Misty later claimed, September 2, she was tricked by Tim Miller into taking the test.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20688606/detail.html

So, IF Ron still supports Misty (by his words and actions he still does)

AND IF Teresa N. still supports Misty (by her words and actions she still does)

AND IF Annette S. still supports Misty (by her words and actions she still does)

then, IMO, Tim Miller will not return to search for Haleigh unless asked to do so by a law enforcement agency.

I cannot see why Tim Miller would expend more of his resources -- money -- on paid staff; travel, lodging and meals costs for personnel; transporting expensive equipment, etc. His money and donated funds can only be stretched only so far.

Tim Miller asking for another search by Floridian volunteers might not produce very many people willing to do so. They, too, volunteer their time and money. After all, they have seen what has transpired in this case since they were there in February. [JMO * Themis]

[AmndaRcknwth]

Misty took the lie detector test in Orlando on or about August 24.
Misty later claimed, September 2, she was tricked by Tim Miller into taking the test.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20688606/detail.html

So, IF Ron still supports Misty (by his words and actions he still does)

AND IF Teresa N. still supports Misty (by her words and actions she still does)

AND IF Annette S. still supports Misty (by her words and actions she still does)

then, IMO, Tim Miller will not return to search for Haleigh unless asked to do so by a law enforcement agency.

I cannot see why Tim Miller would expend more of his resources -- money -- on paid staff; travel, lodging and meals costs for personnel; transporting expensive equipment, etc. His money and donated funds can only be stretched only so far.

Tim Miller asking for another search by Floridian volunteers might not produce very many people willing to do so. They, too, volunteer their time and money. After all, they have seen what has transpired in this case since they were there in February. [JMO * Themis]

I agree Themis. Locals have to be eye-rolling it every time the subject comes up now. The last TES search in April wasn't that well-attended, a new one would be less.

I do not think TES will return. There are lots of missing people who need their help, and actually want it.

[Dunlurken]

I think the article must have been removed. Wonder if TJH got a phone call from a legal dept. JMO

Pretty odd, huh?

[AmndaRcknwth]

Apparently TJ Hart thought better of telling it like it is.

IMO.

[Dunlurken]

Apparently TJ Hart thought better of telling it like it is.

IMO.

He's about people clicking on his link and ratings. JMO.

[Chica]

I find it interesting that Ron decided not to go to Universal. Wish I were a fly on the wall in that home. TN is in a major state of denial, and so is Ron, IMO.

Where is Haleigh? :crying:

No one can cover their tracks that well (speaking about whoever took her.)

I thought Ron DID go according to Simon.

[Themis]

I find it interesting that Ron decided not to go to Universal. Wish I were a fly on the wall in that home. TN is in a major state of denial, and so is Ron, IMO.
Where is Haleigh? :crying:

No one can cover their tracks that well (speaking about whoever took her.)
BBM

I would not bet a quarter on that one. [JMO * Themis]

[Chica]

I agree that she'd throw her own child under the bus but I think she did that years ago and misty has learned to not trust her mother.jmo. So I don't think she "knows" anything. But I do think she'd say anything to help herself so who knows what will happen.

I totally agree with you. I don't believe Misty told her mother anything but lies because Misty doesn't trust her mother at all. Remember when Misty told LE or someone that Lisa wanted her xanax? No way imo would Misty confide in her.

[Chica]

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5337943.php

REPORTER'S NOTES 10/1/09

This link doesn't work, post #18 didn't either, same link.

[Chica]

GRACE: Ms. Neves, she said at one juncture that she believes up to four people were in the home the night Haleigh went missing, but then chalked it up to a dream-like interlude that she had. What does she say about that? Who were the people in the home that evening?

NEVES: Miss Nancy, I have not seen that. I have asked her about it. She says that that did not happen. You know, if I haven`t seen it and I can`t prove it, then I can`t actually confront her with something that she says did not happen.

GRACE: Ms. Neves, I don`t mean to grill you, but it just doesn`t all fit together. You`ve got her brother claiming he came to the home that evening at 9:30 to 9:45. She said she didn`t go to sleep until 10:00 PM. He says he banged on the door to get in touch with her and nobody came. How does she respond to that? Was she really home?

NEVES: She still stands firm on the fact that she was at home. To me, it`s a very dysfunctional family, and that`s the best way I can describe that. One minute, they -- you know, they say one thing, and then the next minute, they call and say, Well, I was sorry, you know, I didn`t mean to say that and we`ll do better next time. So I just don`t know what to think of the whole thing.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/30/ng.01.html[/QUOTE]

snip'd by me for space

To me TN's statement in the last paragraph was insinuating that Tommy had lied. That was how I took her answer to the question.

[titanfan217]

Yeah, well, I'm not you CK and all I've seen from this family is lies and obfuscation.

I don't believe Misty was represented by this atty 6 mos. ago.

MO

I don't either.

This reminds me so much of a soap opera that I watch. The stories twist and turn, and history is rewritten at will.

We heard nothing from April until HaLeigh's birthday, so I guess now that's Misty's attorney's fault that nothing was done.

Last week it was awful that Misty would go to a theme park, but add Ron and Jr, if they even went, and it becomes a planned vacation.

[titanfan217]

Unless they are slow updating their websites, it doesn't look like Lisa's taxi has made it to Nashville.

[Lynn Gweeny]

TJ Hart to Step Aside from Nancy Grace Show Coverage of Haleigh Cummings

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5343082.php

[Chica]

TJ Hart to Step Aside from Nancy Grace Show Coverage of Haleigh Cummings

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5343082.php

Very interesting..what in the world was in the article that was just pulled?

[KatieLady]

TJ Hart to Step Aside from Nancy Grace Show Coverage of Haleigh Cummings

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5343082.php

I explained to one of the producers by phone this morning that the national coverage and the local stories we report appear to differ a bit at times. I explained to her that this is a concern to a news director of a local radio station.


Thanks Lynn! Very interesting...sounds more like a difference of opinion to me. I bet he is sick of NG getting her facts all screwed up IMO

[Dunlurken]

TJ Hart to Step Aside from Nancy Grace Show Coverage of Haleigh Cummings

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5343082.php
Interesting, to say the least. JMO.

[DramaQueen]

IIRC, there were rumors of Misty having an attorney. But I think that's all it was - rumors. I don't believe she acquired an attorney until the fight/restraining order incidents. If she did, their identity was the best kept secret out there.

JMO


other than the name of the ac man that was at the home that day

good afternoon all, catching up, seems to be a quiet day.

[Dunlurken]

I explained to one of the producers by phone this morning that the national coverage and the local stories we report appear to differ a bit at times. I explained to her that this is a concern to a news director of a local radio station.


Thanks Lynn! Very interesting...sounds more like a difference of opinion to me. I bet he is sick of NG getting her facts all screwed up IMO

I'm going to stand up for Nancy once again. In the article he (TJHart) had reported earlier, he said he sat rignt next to Misty last night and talked to her for quite a while. When the question of Tommy came up, she rolled her eyes. A brief synopsis of what I read for those that didn't have time to read the article before it was pulled. Where this is going, I have no idea.

You know what they say: "Believe none of what you read, and only half of what you see". JMO.

[KatieLady]

I'm going to stand up for Nancy once again. In the article he (TJHart) had reported earlier, he said he sat rignt next to Misty last night and talked to her for quite a while. When the question of Tommy came up, she rolled her eyes. A brief synopsis of what I read for those that didn't have time to read the article before it was pulled. Where this is going, I have no idea.

You know what they say: "Believe none of what you read, and only half of what you see". JMO.

Hey Dunnie,

I am a faithful NG watcher but only because she is the only one that covers the crimes I am interested in. For the life of me I can't figure out why some keep coming back on her show....for the very reason you stated...the rolling of the eyes, talking over her guests etc.

I am thinking that TJ and NG are having "creative differences" :wink:

[Chica]

Very interesting..what in the world was in the article that was just pulled?

Nevermind, I just read it. thx

[ClimbingRose]

Interesting bit from last nights Nancy Grace show-

GRACE: Really? There were so many conflicting reports about where she had been. Ms. Neves, again, you are stating that you believe she`s waiting for the OK from her lawyer to talk to police.

NEVES: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: OK. In light of the fact that her new stepchild, her little girl is missing and police want to talk to her, hopefully, to clear up questions and find the child, don`t you think she should be at the police station right now instead of waiting for a possible call from a lawyer?

NEVES: My personal opinion, that attorney should have made this trip six months ago, but I can`t tell that attorney how to do his job.

GRACE: But you can. I mean, she is with you. She is with you and Ronald at your home. You can. You and Ronald can talk to her.

NEVES: Yes, ma`am, we can, and we have. But we cannot make her attorney do anything.

GRACE: Ms. Neves, she said at one juncture that she believes up to four people were in the home the night Haleigh went missing, but then chalked it up to a dream-like interlude that she had. What does she say about that? Who were the people in the home that evening?

NEVES: Miss Nancy, I have not seen that. I have asked her about it. She says that that did not happen. You know, if I haven`t seen it and I can`t prove it, then I can`t actually confront her with something that she says did not happen.

GRACE: Ms. Neves, I don`t mean to grill you, but it just doesn`t all fit together. You`ve got her brother claiming he came to the home that evening at 9:30 to 9:45. She said she didn`t go to sleep until 10:00 PM. He says he banged on the door to get in touch with her and nobody came. How does she respond to that? Was she really home?

NEVES: She still stands firm on the fact that she was at home. To me, it`s a very dysfunctional family, and that`s the best way I can describe that. One minute, they -- you know, they say one thing, and then the next minute, they call and say, Well, I was sorry, you know, I didn`t mean to say that and we`ll do better next time. So I just don`t know what to think of the whole thing.



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/30/ng.01.html



Umm, where do I begin. So many issues to address Can I get back on this with you. I did find it amusing for TN to state that the Croslin family was dysfunctional !!!

ClimbingRose

[AmndaRcknwth]

NG wanted him to sensationalize some things even more than they were true. He said no thanks.

Paraphrased.

The original story he had on his site that was removed said:

Posted: Thursday, 01 October 2009 7:17AM

REPORTER'S NOTES 10/1/09

TJ Hart

The lines are getting blurred in the story of missing 6-year-old Haleigh Cummings of Satsuma, FL who was taken from her father's home February 9, 2009 while in the care of her babysitter--now stepmother--Misty Croslin-Cummings.

Last night, I willfully refused a request from one of the many a cable network shows I've appeared over the past several months.

I was asked play it up a bit in an update about the child's stepmother getting away from the public for a few days ..."Cops find Misty!!!! Misty refusing to speak!!!! Attorney has made no effort to bring her in for questioning!!!!!!

All the cops really said this week is that Misty has a standing invitation to come in anytime with her lawyer and straighten out her timeline.

The police knew how to get in touch with her with one call. Contact her lawyer!

Truth:

* Misty was at Universal---not Disney or Epcot.
* Ron was supposed to meet with her Thursday, but plans changed
* Ron and Misty were in contact with each other every day
* Lawyer knew where Misty was every hour of the day
* A friend of Teresa Neves paid for the tickets
* Ron and Jr. did not go to Universal, but met with Misty over the weekend and went to a large park so Jr. could play like a regular kid with no cameras or internet stalkers
* I don't much care for Ron and Misty's behavior, but they are people, too. They have been under a microscope and just wanted to get away from the public for awhile
* No laws were broken

As for "where is Misty?" I sat next to Misty last night in the waiting room of a TV studio in Jacksonville, FL for 20 minutes just before we went on the air.

In fact, I had a long talk with her.

We talked about her family.

She said, "It looks like my mom is on quite a ride!"

Misty's mother just had an extradition hearing earlier in the day in Tennessee where she was being held on $100,000 as a fugitive from justice. The charge she faces in Putnam County Florida is forgery of a check in the amount of $400--a check she allegedly stole from a blind former neighbor who let her and her son Tommy use his phone.

Misty got a very hateful look in here eye when she talked about her brother Tommy. She has a permanent restraining order on him after he drove with Misty's parents to the home where Misty and her husband Ronald live with Ronald's grandmother in Wellaka, FL and started a fight.

Tommy was with his mother the night she allegedly stole the checks from the blind former neighbor. In fact, Tommy was arrested and charged with theft after the blind man discovered his gun missing.

Before he bonded out, Tommy told Putnam County investigators that he was called by Ronald to check on Misty since she had not answered his telephone calls and text messages following a fight on the phone earlier in the evening of February 9, 2009.

Tommy told officers he went down to Ron's home and banged on the door. He said he saw no lights on and did not see or hear a TV. He claimed it was silent and said he thought no one was home and left.

Police have been trying to find out for months where Misty was that night since her timeline has been very inconsistent.

Just as Misty was ending her on statements on Tommy, she looked away from me as she spoke in the form of a pre-emptive strike , "...and I wasn't at no party that night either!"

Misty folded her arms, clamped her mouth shut looked at the big screen TV in the room.

Did I believe her? I have my doubts, but it still doesn't warrant the hyping.

Today I am examining my heart, my mind and my soul to find where the truth became irrelevant to ratings and page views.

I am also wondering how the circus replaced the search for the child.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5337943.php

[AmndaRcknwth]

Umm, where do I begin. So many issues to address Can I get back on this with you. I did find it amusing for TN to state that the Croslin family was dysfunctional !!!

ClimbingRose


That gave me a little chuckle too, but not in a happy way. I really wish all these folks had just told the truth from the beginning.

[Dunlurken]

Hey Dunnie,

I am a faithful NG watcher but only because she is the only one that covers the crimes I am interested in. For the life of me I can't figure out why some keep coming back on her show....for the very reason you stated...the rolling of the eyes, talking over her guests etc.

I am thinking that TJ and NG are having "creative differences" :wink:Nancy wasn't rolling her eyes, according to TJHart, Misty had a hateful look when the topic of tommy came up. Just to clarify and JMO since the article has been pulled.

Edited.

[Unleashed]

Apparently TJ Hart thought better of telling it like it is.

IMO.

Or at least his perception of what it is.

jmo

[emmaleah]

I don't either.

This reminds me so much of a soap opera that I watch. The stories twist and turn, and history is rewritten at will.

We heard nothing from April until HaLeigh's birthday, so I guess now that's Misty's attorney's fault that nothing was done.

Last week it was awful that Misty would go to a theme park, but add Ron and Jr, if they even went, and it becomes a planned vacation.

I read that Ron took Jr. for one day. As much as most of you see evil in this we need to remember that Jr. still exists and he certainly deserves to have some sort of normal life and a day at a nice park would probably be a good thing for him

Just my opinion only

[Dunlurken]

Why was TJHart sitting next to Misty at a radio station when her attorney has told her to not talk? :confused:

[DramaQueen]

That's another part of TN's claim that doesn't make sense. Misty went against her atty's advise when she took the tests, so it's not like she doesn't do what she wants regardless of what she's advised to do.

Looking at the recent videos of Ron, Misty and TN, I see people who seem to be enjoying the confusion they create.

MO

sort of like those people who have a disease that makes them hurt their children so they can get attention in the ER?

Well if they enjoy it they must be pretty happy campers right about now.

[Chica]

Why was TJHart sitting next to Misty at a radio station when her attorney has told her to not talk? :confused:

And why was she there?:confused:

By the way, it was a TV studio.

[aproudmom]

There is not one family in this case that is going to get any award for being a good parent, if you want to get technical Ron has an extensive arrest record, and so does his sister, so if we wanted to go tit for tat we could talk about all the families- no one is clean here, and the only think that should matter right now is that Haleigh went missing in Feb and the last person to see her has now married Haleighs daddy and has the Cummings family utmost support- and she is refusing to talk to the cops-basically- this is where the problem lays and this is what we should be focusing on-

Why is the Cummings family supporting Misty?

jmo

:thumbup:great post just what I have been saying for months..

[Elle]

And why was she there?:confused:

By the way, it was a TV studio.

Hi Chica
Was Teresa live on Nancy last night? I am thinking maybe she went down w/ her to the local fox satelite and was waiting for her? idk

[Chica]

Nancy is still touting exclusive interviews tonight with both Ron and Misty. I won't believe it until I see it. Misty will never go on Nancy's show, imo. I still think the show will be a rehash of same ole same ole.

[aproudmom]

That's another part of TN's claim that doesn't make sense. Misty went against her atty's advise when she took the tests, so it's not like she doesn't do what she wants regardless of what she's advised to do.

Looking at the recent videos of Ron, Misty and TN, I see people who seem to be enjoying the confusion they create.

MO

BBM
She was the one that talked to Mark N her lawyer whom is also Tim Millers lawyer to help sit that stuff up then turns around and acts like she knew nothing..Just like when she pretended to not know where Misty was and so on and on and on..I am sorry anyone that keeps giving this chick a place to live when she does not march her hiney down to clear up the timeline does not seem to care so much to find out what happened that night..and that is MO the Cummings family are giving her room and board and a vacation and act like she lives in their homes and they never talk...fgs If that was me she would be out the door it has been over 7 freaking months...This is way beyond denial

[DramaQueen]

Nancy is still touting exclusive interviews tonight with both Ron and Misty. I won't believe it until I see it. Misty will never go on Nancy's show, imo. I still think the show will be a rehash of same ole same ole.


I agree with you there, Misty wouldn't dare go on NG, Nancy would rip her to shreds.

[Chica]

Hi Chica
Was Teresa live on Nancy last night? I am thinking maybe she went down w/ her to the local fox satelite and was waiting for her? idk

She was in a box, so, no, she was live at a different location. Are you saying that Misty went with TN and was waiting in the waiting room? That could be where Misty saw TJ Hart. Why in the world would Misty go to the TV station with TN?

[aproudmom]

Hi Chica
Was Teresa live on Nancy last night? I am thinking maybe she went down w/ her to the local fox satelite and was waiting for her? idk

That is what I wondered yes she was on do not know why though

[Elle]

Nancy is still touting exclusive interviews tonight with both Ron and Misty. I won't believe it until I see it. Misty will never go on Nancy's show, imo. I still think the show will be a rehash of same ole same ole.

Oh I gad not seen that when I replied, maybe that is the reason she was there, though I find it unlikely she would appear w/o her attorney and there was no mention of an attorney being there from TJ. I have no idea, I am thinking a tv station, whether it is waiting around for someone else or to be interviewed herself would be one of the last places her lawyer would want her, especially w/o him. imoo

[Trissy]

Why was TJHart sitting next to Misty at a radio station when her attorney has told her to not talk? :confused:

I'm confused, also. A radio station? Was she gonna give some kind of interview?
Also, when LE says they gave Misty an invitation to come in anytime with her lawyer and straighten out her timeline.....well that sounds like they will just wait until Misty makes up her mind. That may be never.
And if Misty is to blame and she never says another word to LE, this case will never be solved. Thats how i see it.
I remember when Laci Peterson went missing, then her body washed ashore, Scott P. was arrested but they didnt know for sure if he killed Laci. So Misty cant be arrested until they find Haleigh's body (thats if the poor child is gone)? There must be some kind of way LE can bring her in. If Misty never says another word, this will be a cold case with no justice for lil Haleigh. It makes me soooooooo mad. MOO

[Elle]

She was in a box, so, no, she was live at a different location. Are you saying that Misty went with TN and was waiting in the waiting room? That could be where Misty saw TJ Hart. Why in the world would Misty go to the TV station with TN?

I was thinking it was a possibility, it could make sense running into TJ there imo, but really I have no idea why she was there, or if it was even that station, just guessing. Either way, I don't think her lawyer would want her talking to anyone w/o him.

imo

[aproudmom]

She was in a box, so, no, she was live at a different location. Are you saying that Misty went with TN and was waiting in the waiting room? That could be where Misty saw TJ Hart. Why in the world would Misty go to the TV station with TN?

I think she was in a lawyers office it looked like the same background when RC was on not to long ago and like you said why would Misty go and not be on the show but was TJ even on last night..I can not remember

[Elle]

I think she was in a lawyers office it looked like the same background when RC was on not to long ago and like you said why would Misty go and not be on the show but was TJ even on last night..I can not remember

Is that where it was from? I assumed it was just a local fox affiliate/satellite station. idk Your probably correct.

[HouseOfClark]

If TJ Hart is going to focus on the "local" aspect of this case, it sounds to me like he's getting an exclusive with Misty much like Prior did with Ron.

That would only happen if he wasn't going to blab on NG (or anywhere else) the content of his "exclusive" before it actually came out.

JMO though.

[Chica]

I think she was in a lawyers office it looked like the same background when RC was on not to long ago and like you said why would Misty go and not be on the show but was TJ even on last night..I can not remember


Yes, he was, but I can't remember if you could see him or only hear him, but you could see TN. So, I am assuming since TJ said he was sitting w/Misty at a TV station, he was where TN was and you could see her. Does that make sense?

[Trissy]

Interesting bit from last nights Nancy Grace show-

GRACE: Really? There were so many conflicting reports about where she had been. Ms. Neves, again, you are stating that you believe she`s waiting for the OK from her lawyer to talk to police.

NEVES: Yes, ma`am.

GRACE: OK. In light of the fact that her new stepchild, her little girl is missing and police want to talk to her, hopefully, to clear up questions and find the child, don`t you think she should be at the police station right now instead of waiting for a possible call from a lawyer?

NEVES: My personal opinion, that attorney should have made this trip six months ago, but I can`t tell that attorney how to do his job.

GRACE: But you can. I mean, she is with you. She is with you and Ronald at your home. You can. You and Ronald can talk to her.

NEVES: Yes, ma`am, we can, and we have. But we cannot make her attorney do anything.

GRACE: Ms. Neves, she said at one juncture that she believes up to four people were in the home the night Haleigh went missing, but then chalked it up to a dream-like interlude that she had. What does she say about that? Who were the people in the home that evening?

NEVES: Miss Nancy, I have not seen that. I have asked her about it. She says that that did not happen. You know, if I haven`t seen it and I can`t prove it, then I can`t actually confront her with something that she says did not happen.
GRACE: Ms. Neves, I don`t mean to grill you, but it just doesn`t all fit together. You`ve got her brother claiming he came to the home that evening at 9:30 to 9:45. She said she didn`t go to sleep until 10:00 PM. He says he banged on the door to get in touch with her and nobody came. How does she respond to that? Was she really home?

NEVES: She still stands firm on the fact that she was at home. To me, it`s a very dysfunctional family, and that`s the best way I can describe that. One minute, they -- you know, they say one thing, and then the next minute, they call and say, Well, I was sorry, you know, I didn`t mean to say that and we`ll do better next time. So I just don`t know what to think of the whole thing.



http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/30/ng.01.html


Bolding by me......

NG asks TN about the dream-like interlude.........TN says she doesnt know anything about that then she says she asked Misty about it and Misty says that didnt happen. So if TN didnt know anything about it, how could she have asked Misty about it? MOO

[Viva4Haleigh]

She was in a box, so, no, she was live at a different location. Are you saying that Misty went with TN and was waiting in the waiting room? That could be where Misty saw TJ Hart. Why in the world would Misty go to the TV station with TN?

Teresa Neves did take Misty to the studio with her when she did the show last night-

[aproudmom]

Oh I gad not seen that when I replied, maybe that is the reason she was there, though I find it unlikely she would appear w/o her attorney and there was no mention of an attorney being there from TJ. I have no idea, I am thinking a tv station, whether it is waiting around for someone else or to be interviewed herself would be one of the last places her lawyer would want her, especially w/o him. imoo

I thought TN said she had to wait for a ok from her lawyer to talk funny she has a problem talking to LE but sits and talks to TJ and then throws in that and yes I was home that night..sorry not worded the way she worded it...I just do not get it and this child may never get JUSTICE and that is the sad thing....JMO

also Misty did not have a lawyer 6 months ago she said she did not need one she did not do anything wrong...so what was that about last night that TN was pointing fingers at the lawyer:confused:

[HouseOfClark]

Bolding by me......

NG asks TN about the dream-like interlude.........TN says she doesnt know anything about that then she says she asked Misty about it and Misty says that didnt happen. So if TN didnt know anything about it, how could she have asked Misty about it? MOO

Good point.

[Chica]

If TJ Hart is going to focus on the "local" aspect of this case, it sounds to me like he's getting an exclusive with Misty much like Prior did with Ron.

That would only happen if he wasn't going to blab on NG (or anywhere else) the content of his "exclusive" before it actually came out.

JMO though.

I don't think that. I think he was fed up with the sensationalism and ratings Nancy wants and doesn't want to be used by her anymore.

[Viva4Haleigh]

Bolding by me......

NG asks TN about the dream-like interlude.........TN says she doesnt know anything about that then she says she asked Misty about it and Misty says that didnt happen. So if TN didnt know anything about it, how could she have asked Misty about it? MOO

Well, during this dream like interlude- Misty was supposed to be under hypnosis, and the person giving the test does not think she was under- so essentially if she really wasn't under, she was making stuff up, imo-

jmo

[titanfan217]

Bolding by me......

NG asks TN about the dream-like interlude.........TN says she doesnt know anything about that then she says she asked Misty about it and Misty says that didnt happen. So if TN didnt know anything about it, how could she have asked Misty about it? MOO


Twist and turn.

[Chica]

I thought TN said she had to wait for a ok from her lawyer to talk funny she has a problem talking to LE but sits and talks to TJ and then throws in that and yes I was home that night..sorry not worded the way she worded it...I just do not get it and this child may never get JUSTICE and that is the sad thing....JMO

also Misty did not have a lawyer 6 months ago she said she did not need one she did not do anything wrong...so what was that about last night that TN was pointing fingers at the lawyer:confused:

I feel this case going cold fast.

[HouseOfClark]

I don't think that. I think he was fed up with the sensationalism and ratings Nancy wants and doesn't want to be used by her anymore.

Surely he didn't participate in sensationalism in this case himself? Never participated in Simon's blogger radio show?

:laugh:

He needs to look in the mirror if he's "fed up" with sensationalism in this case.

JMO

[aproudmom]

Teresa Neves did take Misty to the studio with her when she did the show last night-

where did you hear that? was TJ on last night I am trying to remember..TN looked like she was at RC lawyers office or Misty's those books in the background are the same ones in the interviews with her and RC in the past few days..

[Unleashed]

Nancy is still touting exclusive interviews tonight with both Ron and Misty. I won't believe it until I see it. Misty will never go on Nancy's show, imo. I still think the show will be a rehash of same ole same ole.

That's what I'm thinking too, Chica. Just reruns of interviews already aired. I cannot imagine her lawyer will let her talk to NG and not to LE. Makes no sense.

jmo

[Viva4Haleigh]

where did you hear that? was TJ on last night I am trying to remember..TN looked like she was at RC lawyers office or Misty's those books in the background are the same ones in the interviews with her and RC in the past few days..

Yes, TJ Hart had a conversation with Misty in a waiting room at the station where they taped the show- she accompanied TN for the taping- I heard this from TJ Hart-

[aproudmom]

Surely he didn't participate in sensationalism in this case himself? Never participated in Simon's blogger radio show?

:laugh:

He needs to look in the mirror if he's "fed up" with sensationalism in this case.

JMO

:thumbsup: Maybe he is worried about his job I remember reading he said this case has ended alot of good peoples careers..lol..I think we all know NG and JVM and so on make it sound like more than it is but I have to say Kudos to anyone who keeps Haleigh's face out there and who puts pressure on the guilty party or parties to talk...JMO

[titanfan217]

That's what I'm thinking too, Chica. Just reruns of interviews already aired. I cannot imagine her lawyer will let her talk to NG and not to LE. Makes no sense.

jmo


I still don't believe her lawyer won't let MC talk to LE.

Sure he was pissed that she went down there without him, but if he's not doing his job as TN tried to say... then duh, fire the attorney and get one that does.

[aproudmom]

Yes, TJ Hart had a conversation with Misty in a waiting room at the station where they taped the show- she accompanied TN for the taping- I heard this from TJ Hart-

oh I read he talked to her but did not know where..you know him? I did not know that..thanks for clearing it up then

[Chica]

Surely he didn't participate in sensationalism in this case himself? Never participated in Simon's blogger radio show?

:laugh:

He needs to look in the mirror if he's "fed up" with sensationalism in this case.

JMO

I disagree. Nancy is over the top.

[aproudmom]

I feel this case going cold fast.

I do to Chica..:crying:

[Viva4Haleigh]

http://www.artharris.com/2009/10/01/nancy-grace-misty-cummings-back-in-satsuma-tips-flop/#more-3157

[aproudmom]

I disagree. Nancy is over the top.

She is I will agree but she is the only one who still covers this case so I will give her that much...and I am hoping the more heat put on someone then we will get the answers as to what happened that night even if it is that Misty left the home or what ever..jmo

[Tracian]

weird...TJ Hart is going on HLN news today...I thought he wanted to keep it 'local'

[aproudmom]

This is the first time I have posted on this thread. I would be the first to admit that I do not know every in nor out of the case, but had a couple thoughts.............................

Sorry for my ramblings. Thanks for listening. My own opinion of course. Be well.

Snipped for space

kjt200 when you find out all your wonderful questions and opinions please let me know because I sure do not get it either and totally agree with your post..

[Justice4all]

TJ Hart to Step Aside from Nancy Grace Show Coverage of Haleigh Cummings

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5343082.php

Wonderful news IMO because he's really been childish lately. Did you read some of the stuff he said about AH?

[aproudmom]

weird...TJ Hart is going on HLN news today...I thought he wanted to keep it 'local'

:ohmy:he is a liar liar pants of fire...who is he going on Mike G. show..boy that is pretty far from local:huh:

[Viva4Haleigh]

:ohmy:he is a liar liar pants of fire...who is he going on Mike G. show..boy that is pretty far from local:huh:

Maybe it would just be better if no one talked about this case at all.

[Justice4all]

weird...TJ Hart is going on HLN news today...I thought he wanted to keep it 'local'

IMO TJ Hart's just childish. One day he says one thing they he's like oh i'm sorry i didn't mean that.. then the next day he says something else. and most of the time i don't believe what he reports.

[HouseOfClark]

I disagree. Nancy is over the top.

Did you say or think that when she was grilling Crystal and rolling her eyes because Crystal didn't know what time Haleigh got out of school?

(ITA she's over the top. But she's far from the only one who has exploited this case for ratings and website hits.)

[Justice4all]

Maybe it would just be better if no one talked about this case at all.

or how about everyone talk about the case but just be honest and tell the truth and not let emotions take over their reporting......:thumbup:

[aproudmom]

Well you can still enjoy him on Sunday at 3 and he just might have COBRA on

We will be broadcasting our regular show on Sunday afternoon. The panel is still being finalized however it likely will consist of the Barrett’s, The Sky 97.3’s ace reporter TJ Hart, private investigator William Cobra Staubs, and crime writer Denny Griffin.

There has been a good deal of activity in both the Caylee Anthony and Haleigh Cummings cases.



http://www.bloggernews.net/122455

[Viva4Haleigh]

or how about everyone talk about the case but just be honest and tell the truth and not let emotions take over their reporting......:thumbup:

Not everyone wants to report on sensationalism, its about integrity- you either have it or you dont-

[aproudmom]

Maybe it would just be better if no one talked about this case at all.

That would only hurt one person and it is Haleigh I think we all know alot of these shows are over the top and usually never ask those questions we all want them to..but hey I actually will not miss TJH I don't watch any show to hear him anyway...I don't even listen to the radio station...so I wont miss his reporting..JMO

[aproudmom]

See ya all in a bit have a wonderful afternoon

[FoxySly]

or how about everyone talk about the case but just be honest and tell the truth and not let emotions take over their reporting......:thumbup:


And misty too. I wish misty would just be honest.

Sly

~

[Chica]

Did you say or think that when she was grilling Crystal and rolling her eyes because Crystal didn't know what time Haleigh got out of school?

(ITA she's over the top. But she's far from the only one who has exploited this case for ratings and website hits.)

I only started watching her about 2 months ago as I never liked her and it has ALWAYS been painful to watch her.

[?noanswer]

http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN?ref=mf

No longer stating that RC & MC will be on. Says "key players" speak out. JMO

[Dunlurken]

http://www.facebook.com/NancyGraceHLN?ref=mf

No longer stating that RC & MC will be on. Says "key players" speak out. JMO

Did it ever say Ron and Misty?

[FrankieBones1]

Bolding by me......

NG asks TN about the dream-like interlude.........TN says she doesnt know anything about that then she says she asked Misty about it and Misty says that didnt happen. So if TN didnt know anything about it, how could she have asked Misty about it? MOO
This is just a guess on my part but maybe Teresa watches the same cable news shows as we do and found out about the hypnosis-dreamlike whatever story that way.

[Justice4all]

Not everyone wants to report on sensationalism, its about integrity- you either have it or you dont-

ITA and IMO NG and TJ Hart ONLY want to report sensationalism. After what i saw and NG last night i think i'm going to take a break from her.

[FrankieBones1]

That's what I'm thinking too, Chica. Just reruns of interviews already aired. I cannot imagine her lawyer will let her talk to NG and not to LE. Makes no sense.

jmo
He would be insane to let his client speak on Nancy's show although I would like to hear Nancy ask her the hard questions on live TV. Your sig line sure applies here on this board. It's wonderful. Edited to add, in my opinion.

[FrankieBones1]

ITA and IMO NG and TJ Hart ONLY want to report sensationalism. After what i saw and NG last night i think i'm going to take a break from her.

What part of the show did you not agree with. I haven't seen it yet. Is it worth watching?

[Themis]

This is just a guess on my part but maybe Teresa watches the same cable news shows as we do and found out about the hypnosis-dreamlike whatever story that way.

GRACE: Ms. Neves, she said at one juncture that she believes up to four people were in the home the night Haleigh went missing, but then chalked it up to a dream-like interlude that she had. What does she say about that? Who were the people in the home that evening?

NEVES: Miss Nancy, I have not seen that. I have asked her about it. She says that that did not happen. You know, if I haven`t seen it and I can`t prove it, then I can`t actually confront her with something that she says did not happen.

I believe that they all read the news from the Internet, read the articles, and watch the TV shows. My opinion.

[Viva4Haleigh]

ITA and IMO NG and TJ Hart ONLY want to report sensationalism. After what i saw and NG last night i think i'm going to take a break from her.

So I take it you have not even read why TJ Hart is declining to be on NG? Its because they asked him to juice up his story, he declined, not sure how that factors into sensationalism on his part, but to each their own- I admire someone who only wants to report the news, not some beefed up hybrid of the truth-

[Viva4Haleigh]

Interesting article-

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/haleigh-cummings-the-distraction-tactic/

[FrankieBones1]

GRACE: Ms. Neves, she said at one juncture that she believes up to four people were in the home the night Haleigh went missing, but then chalked it up to a dream-like interlude that she had. What does she say about that? Who were the people in the home that evening?

NEVES: Miss Nancy, I have not seen that. I have asked her about it. She says that that did not happen. You know, if I haven`t seen it and I can`t prove it, then I can`t actually confront her with something that she says did not happen.

I believe that they all read the news from the Internet, read the articles, and watch the TV shows. My opinion.

It's all so vague, Themis. What didn't she see? I thought she meant it literally. That she had never seen four people with Misty that night. I don't think she meant that she'd never heard the story from the news or internet.

[FrankieBones1]

ITA and IMO NG and TJ Hart ONLY want to report sensationalism. After what i saw and NG last night i think i'm going to take a break from her.

I'm copying the following from last night's thread here. The link is no longer good for whatever reasons. Wonder why TJ took it down.

REPORTER'S NOTES
TheSky 97 3.com
T J Hart
Posted: Wednesday, 30 September 2009 10:49PM

As for "where is Misty?" I sat next to Misty last night in the waiting room of a TV in Jacksonville, FL for 20 minutes just before we went on the air.

In fact, I had a long talk with her.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5337943.php

[FrankieBones1]

Interesting article-

http://stephww.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/haleigh-cummings-the-distraction-tactic/

It's not an article by any stretch of the imagination. It's a opinion from a person just like any of us here. It is not from World Press as the person would like us to believe. It's Word Press.

I think it's awful how he says that all the family members are obstructing justice without proof.
imo

[Themis]

This is the first time I have posted on this thread. I would be the first to admit that I do not know every in nor out of the case, but had a couple thoughts.............................

I watched Nancy Grace last night and listened to the interview with Ron's mom..................I'm puzzled...........

1. Why is everyone so cagey when they speak? If TN supports Misty 100 percent, why not just say so? Simply say that we believe everything she has stated.... Why the need to throw out little remarks that allude to "maybe" not believing what Misty says?

2. I was astounded to hear TN state that the other family in question is dysfunctional. Although I agree with her remark, has she not taken a peek into her own family dynamic lately?

3. Someone paid for Misty, Ron and his son to go to an amusement park in Orlando? Let me tell you something. If I had put up the money for a child to go have some fun and that kid ended up not being able to go, I would expect my money back. I would not be happy to hear that the child did not go, but Misty went alone. That is whacked.

4. And finally. As stated above, if Ron and his family believe Misty then fine.....say so..... But if they have doubts (and they always throw little innuendos out), then why provide her with a safe haven? She has a safe place to live, no money worries, food and clothing and apparently people who don't question her too hard.

If I really wanted to know the truth I would throw her out. Maybe she would actually say something of value if she had to find lodging with her own family. Maybe she would slip and say something if she had to couch surf from friend to friend. Maybe she would feel the pressure to talk if she had to try to find a job...........I dunno, but it seems to me that Ron's family are not helping to break her, they are providing her the means to continue the charade....

I blame Casey Anthony and her family for this dreaded example of playing the police like fools, hedging words and assuming that the public at large are fools..........

Sorry for my ramblings. Thanks for listening. My own opinion of course. Be well.
Your post is not rambling at all. In fact, it is very succinct and I agree with you.

Another quote from Teresa last night: "NEVES: My personal opinion, that attorney should have made this trip six months ago, but I can`t tell that attorney how to do his job."

Who is payng for Misty's attorney? She has no assets. And this is very germane to the discussion of learning what has happened to and with Haleigh. Finding Haleigh is all that Teresa claims she wants to know. And that she wants the persons responsible held accountable. If any of the Cummings or their 'friends' are paying for the attorney who is keeping Misty from talking to LE then it should stop along with the double talk.

As you said, KJT200, if she supports Misty 100% then just say so and be done with it. She needs to stop with the coy and snide remarks, contradicting herself, and giving the impression she is living in a vacuum. [JMO * Themis]

[?noanswer]

It's not an article by any stretch of the imagination. It's a opinion from a person just like any of us here. It is not from World Press as the person would like us to believe. It's Word Press.

I think it's awful how he says that all the family members are obstructing justice without proof.
imo

I think comment #3 was right on. JMO

[FrankieBones1]

<<Snipped long reply per CW's instructions>>
2. I was astounded to hear TN state that the other family in question is dysfunctional. Although I agree with her remark, has she not taken a peek into her own family dynamic lately?
I didn't hear Teresa say that her own family wasn't dysfunctional. I would say that the Croslins are probably 100 times more dysfunctional. But that's just me.
imo

[FrankieBones1]

I think comment #3 was right on. JMO

I agree with you. I hadn't seen the comments the first time around.

[Viva4Haleigh]

I didn't hear Teresa say that her own family wasn't dysfunctional. I would say that the Croslins are probably 100 times more dysfunctional. But that's just me.
imo

This is not a contest about what family is more dysfunctional, its about Haleigh being missing and her father enabling Misty and the Cummings standing behind Misty, one really has to ask why-

jmo

[Themis]

It's all so vague, Themis. What didn't she see? I thought she meant it literally. That she had never seen four people with Misty that night. I don't think she meant that she'd never heard the story from the news or internet.
Frankie, it could not have been that TN meant it literally.
TN has never said she was at the Cummings mobile home 2/9 or 2/10 until she responded to Ron's frantic phone call to her at about 3:30 a.m. on 2/10.

It is my opinion that TN is claiming she has never seen the news reports of what Misty said during (but not part of) the various tests she took, courtesy of Tim Miller and Mark Nejame. And that is what contributes to the controversy of what TN says. She says one thing and then says the opposite all in one response.

And NG does no follow-up to clarify for the benefit of her viewers and most importantly L.E. [JMO * Themis]

[Chica]

Frankie, it could not have been that TN meant it literally.
TN has never said she was at the Cummings mobile home 2/9 or 2/10 until she responded to Ron's frantic phone call to her at about 3:30 a.m. on 2/10.

It is my opinion that TN is claiming she has never seen the news reports of what Misty said during (but not part of) the various tests she took, courtesy of Tim Miller and Mark Nejame. And that is what contributes to the controversy of what TN says. She says one thing and then says the opposite all in one response.

And NG does no follow-up to clarify for the benefit of her viewers and most importantly L.E. [JMO * Themis]

IMO, that is exactly what TN meant, that she had never seen the video or article where Misty talks about the 4 people. And to me, that is when Nancy should have whipped out the article or video and asked followup questions. But, she never does.

[baywench]

I don't see what the big deal is about anyone getting an exclusive with any of them. You would get more information from a pet rock. They say nothing, and they look stupid doing it imo

[Chica]

I don't see what the big deal is about anyone getting an exclusive with any of them. You would get more information from a pet rock. They say nothing, and they look stupid doing it imo

I watched her for 2 months and I can't watch her any more.

She is about equal with Geraldo, imo. And I don't watch him either.

[?noanswer]

I had not seen this news release http://www.pcso.us/2009-9-28-a .

Article said name of woman who delivered the letter has not been released. I'm glad that LE knows who she is. Wonder if they have determined who actually wrote the letter. JMO

[Texas48]

I didn't hear Teresa say that her own family wasn't dysfunctional. I would say that the Croslins are probably 100 times more dysfunctional. But that's just me.
imoBBM
Good afternoon sis.....I think you are correct...and thats MO..

[Themis]

IMO, that is exactly what TN meant, that she had never seen the video or article where Misty talks about the 4 people. And to me, that is when Nancy should have whipped out the article or video and asked followup questions. But, she never does.
BBM

And I, frankly, do not believe that TN has never read an article or seen the video where Misty talks about 4 people in a dreamlike state. It was TN who left that voice mail for Tim Miller asking him to get to Florida quickly.
We are coming up on 9 months since Haleigh disappeared. All the people involved are far more media savvy than they might have been on February 10, 2009.

And you know that I agree with you, Chica, about the lack of specific follow-up questions. As I said earlier, it's often difficult to believe she was a top prosecutor in Georgia. [JMO * Themis]

P.S. Here come the reinforcements

[Peaches]

I didn't hear Teresa say that her own family wasn't dysfunctional. I would say that the Croslins are probably 100 times more dysfunctional. But that's just me.
imo


Frankie, ITA.............The Cummings have always had the basic things for living..........food/shelter/clothes...........

If you believe Misty, her family family has moved around often.......at times living in her car. School was on the back burner for these people.......moo .......... since Misty has about a 6th grade education...if that. again moo

MOO is that this is the reason Misty would look towards Ronald during interviews.........she did not understand the question.

Sad situation but Where is HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings?

[FrankieBones1]

IMO, that is exactly what TN meant, that she had never seen the video or article where Misty talks about the 4 people. And to me, that is when Nancy should have whipped out the article or video and asked followup questions. But, she never does.

We'd get more answers if Nancy would only ask questions.

[FrankieBones1]

BBM
Good afternoon sis.....I think you are correct...and thats MO..And before someone calls this some kind of contest; it is what it is. People with dysfunctional families can't see it sometimes. But it's true that some families are far more dysfunctional than others. No contest; just facts. In my opinion, Teresa had every right to say that on Nancy's show.

[Viva4Haleigh]

And before someone calls this some kind of contest; it is what it is. People with dysfunctional families can't see it sometimes. But it's true that some families are far more dysfunctional than others. No contest; just facts. In my opinion, Teresa had every right to say that on Nancy's show.

They also say when you point a finger you have a few pointing back at you- Those words will come back to haunt that family, imo.

[FrankieBones1]

Frankie, it could not have been that TN meant it literally.
TN has never said she was at the Cummings mobile home 2/9 or 2/10 until she responded to Ron's frantic phone call to her at about 3:30 a.m. on 2/10.

It is my opinion that TN is claiming she has never seen the news reports of what Misty said during (but not part of) the various tests she took, courtesy of Tim Miller and Mark Nejame. And that is what contributes to the controversy of what TN says. She says one thing and then says the opposite all in one response.

And NG does no follow-up to clarify for the benefit of her viewers and most importantly L.E. [JMO * Themis]
I think she tries to get everyone in but runs out of time. I say, forget the panel and just interview the guest at hand. And yes, LE would be a good choice, too. Would be nice if they could open up once in awhile.
imo

[FrankieBones1]

Frankie, ITA.............The Cummings have always had the basic things for living..........food/shelter/clothes...........

If you believe Misty, her family family has moved around often.......at times living in her car. School was on the back burner for these people.......moo .......... since Misty has about a 6th grade education...if that. again moo

MOO is that this is the reason Misty would look towards Ronald during interviews.........she did not understand the question.

Sad situation but Where is HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings?
May this be the month she comes home. :rose:

[Justice4all]

I'm copying the following from last night's thread here. The link is no longer good for whatever reasons. Wonder why TJ took it down.

REPORTER'S NOTES
TheSky 97 3.com
T J Hart
Posted: Wednesday, 30 September 2009 10:49PM

As for "where is Misty?" I sat next to Misty last night in the waiting room of a TV in Jacksonville, FL for 20 minutes just before we went on the air.

In fact, I had a long talk with her.

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5337943.php

Because he was being a Drama King and let his emotions get to him...same as he did just last week when he went off on Art Harris.


MOO

[Justice4all]

Frankie, ITA.............The Cummings have always had the basic things for living..........food/shelter/clothes...........

If you believe Misty, her family family has moved around often.......at times living in her car. School was on the back burner for these people.......moo .......... since Misty has about a 6th grade education...if that. again moo

MOO is that this is the reason Misty would look towards Ronald during interviews.........she did not understand the question.

Sad situation but Where is HaLeigh Ann-Marie Cummings?

As always Miss Peaches ITA...... :rose:

[FrankieBones1]

Because he was being a Drama King and let his emotions get to him...same as he did just last week when he went off on Art Harris.


MOOI was hoping that he would be one of the more trustworthy ones to listen to for Haleigh news.

[MagicPool]

We'd get more answers if Nancy would only ask questions.


I've oftened wondered if the reason she doesn't ask the hard questions or follow up on things is because of the Melinda Duckett case thats pending against her. JMO

[CFMom]

Because he was being a Drama King and let his emotions get to him...same as he did just last week when he went off on Art Harris.


MOO

Drama King describes him to a T IMO.

[FrankieBones1]

I've oftened wondered if the reason she doesn't ask the hard questions or follow up on things is because of the Melinda Duckett case thats pending against her. JMO

I didn't realize that was still pending, Pool. Maybe Nancy does rein it in for those reasons.

[Viva4Haleigh]

HLN just reported that Ron and Misty will be on NG tonight-

[MagicPool]

I didn't realize that was still pending, Pool. Maybe Nancy does rein it in for those reasons.

This is from a couple of days ago:

Nancy Grace denies mental abuse allegations in Trenton Duckett case

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-nancy-grace-denies-mental-abuse-092909,0,2378650.story

[baywench]

I've oftened wondered if the reason she doesn't ask the hard questions or follow up on things is because of the Melinda Duckett case thats pending against her. JMO

I think it's because someone other than her would be talking and she couldn't hear the sound of her own voice. Obviously i am SO over Nancy. It kills me, i really used to like her. jmo

[solar]

This is not a contest about what family is more dysfunctional, its about Haleigh being missing and her father enabling Misty and the Cummings standing behind Misty, one really has to ask why-

jmo

Maybe they believe she just doesn't know. I guess it would be easier for them if LE shared with them what her inconsistencies were, they obviously don't have any convincing physical evidence that impugns her orignial statement or they would have arrested her for giving a false police report.

I am by no means of the opinion that Misty doesn't know something she isn't saying. I just can't believe that with all of the different LE departments involved in this case and the many times they have questioned her without an attorney, they can't get a complete report from a 17 year old. I just find that totally unbelievable.

imo

solar

[Trissy]

Yes, TJ Hart had a conversation with Misty in a waiting room at the station where they taped the show- she accompanied TN for the taping- I heard this from TJ Hart-


Misty and TN sure seem to be close friends....eh? I wonder why they had to accompany each other moo

[baywench]

Maybe they believe she just doesn't know. I guess it would be easier for them if LE shared with them what her inconsistencies were, they obviously don't have any convincing physical evidence that impugns her orignial statement or they would have arrested her for giving a false police report.

I am by no means of the opinion that Misty doesn't know something she isn't saying. I just can't believe that with all of the different LE departments involved in this case and the many times they have questioned her without an attorney, they can't get a complete report from a 17 year old. I just find that totally unbelievable.



imo

solar
I believe misty has a very strong sense of self-preservation no doubt brought on by her upbringing. If she keeps enough stories circulating she can't be tied down to one. Obviously LE does not have the AHA evidence that will prove probable clause. It is not against the law to not do laundry or even not stay home. Obstruction of a police investigation maybe, but that's not much. They can't think she is guilty, they have to be able to prove it. jmo

[Trissy]

HLN just reported that Ron and Misty will be on NG tonight-

Thanks, Viva.

[W_D_1]

Per TJ Hart on HLN Ron is not the first person police suspect, he's the last.

[Viva4Haleigh]

Per TJ Hart on HLN Ron is not the first person police suspect, he's the last.

Yet still a suspect-

GRACE: Do you believe that law enforcement has officially cleared your client, Ronald Cummings, of anything to do with her disappearance?

SHOEMAKER: Well, it`s kind of a tough situation to say they`ve officially cleared him 100 percent. When we met with law enforcement last week, they basically said they moved him from, you know, top of the list to the bottom of the list.

GRACE: Got it.

SHOEMAKER: Unless they were with him all night long, they can`t officially rule him out.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/08/ng.01.html

And we have no idea how big their list is, could be 10 people, could be 2, you never know-

[Texas48]

And before someone calls this some kind of contest; it is what it is. People with dysfunctional families can't see it sometimes. But it's true that some families are far more dysfunctional than others. No contest; just facts. In my opinion, Teresa had every right to say that on Nancy's show.
Your right Franki...Most all here do not consider it a *contest* and that sad to even mention it in the same sentence as little HaLeigh Marie Cummings...It is disturbing to see the media/reporters all trying to out-do the other but..we have seen it before and more than likely we will see it again long after this case is over..
and then we have the word *dysfunctional*...In all my years I have yet to come across a *Cleaver Perfect Family*....IMO..there are degrees..some more and some less....
TN was only speaking *her mind*...My guess is TN knows alot more about the Croslins than we do or even the media does...and IMO she has every right to her opinion as we ALL do....

[CRRJJ]

I don't always read all the post so if this has been discussed before, I apologize.
I am wondering--has it ever been known for sure that Haleigh disappeared during the night? Is it at all possible that she was gone much earlier in the evening? I know that people have verified that Ron was at work but has anyone ever come forward to say they saw Haleigh after Ron went to work? Anyone that would have seen Haleigh at that time? Anyone that could verify she was there? And if I remember right---did Misty not say that she left the bedroom to go to the bathroom and then noticed the door was open? Haleigh's bed was no more than 3 or 4 feet from Misty's bed. She had to walk right past it to get out of the bedroom. Would she not have noticed the empty bed?
These are just some questions that keep popping up in my head and it is MOO. :unsure: :confused:

[W_D_1]

Yet still a suspect-

GRACE: Do you believe that law enforcement has officially cleared your client, Ronald Cummings, of anything to do with her disappearance?

SHOEMAKER: Well, it`s kind of a tough situation to say they`ve officially cleared him 100 percent. When we met with law enforcement last week, they basically said they moved him from, you know, top of the list to the bottom of the list.

GRACE: Got it.

SHOEMAKER: Unless they were with him all night long, they can`t officially rule him out.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/08/ng.01.html

And we have no idea how big their list is, could be 10 people, could be 2, you never know-


IMO he has been ruled out and that's why he is at the bottom of the list and that's why police said he isn't a suspect.

[TaraCrazyHair]

HLN just reported that Ron and Misty will be on NG tonight-


Will Misty's lawyer be on as well?

[Viva4Haleigh]

Will Misty's lawyer be on as well?

I dont know- should be interesting-

[TaraCrazyHair]

I dont know- should be interesting-


It could be ... depending on if there are limits to questions, etc

Otherwise it will be everything we have heard before in twenty different versions

[Trissy]

It could be ... depending on if there are limits to questions, etc

Otherwise it will be everything we have heard before in twenty different versions

Thats what i think.

[Survivor]

Maybe they believe she just doesn't know. I guess it would be easier for them if LE shared with them what her inconsistencies were, they obviously don't have any convincing physical evidence that impugns her orignial statement or they would have arrested her for giving a false police report.

I am by no means of the opinion that Misty doesn't know something she isn't saying. I just can't believe that with all of the different LE departments involved in this case and the many times they have questioned her without an attorney, they can't get a complete report from a 17 year old. I just find that totally unbelievable.

imo

solar


Just catching up, and I agree. How can a 17yr with a 6th grade education, keep LE at bay? Not one person has been able to confirm that Misty was out of the home that night, not even Tommy's statement. I do think however that Misty knows WHO LE should be looking at, but for whatever reason, cannot or will not spill the beans.

[Justice4all]

Yet still a suspect-

GRACE: Do you believe that law enforcement has officially cleared your client, Ronald Cummings, of anything to do with her disappearance?

SHOEMAKER: Well, it`s kind of a tough situation to say they`ve officially cleared him 100 percent. When we met with law enforcement last week, they basically said they moved him from, you know, top of the list to the bottom of the list.

GRACE: Got it.

SHOEMAKER: Unless they were with him all night long, they can`t officially rule him out.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/08/ng.01.html

And we have no idea how big their list is, could be 10 people, could be 2, you never know-

Has anyone in the family been "Officially" ruled out?

[W_D_1]

Has anyone in the family been "Officially" ruled out?



Nope, no one.

[Dunlurken]

HLN just reported that Ron and Misty will be on NG tonight-

That has been retracted as far as I know. Been cooking dinner so I could be wrong. JMO. On her facebook account it says something different.

[Januarybaby]

This is exactly the non answering that makes me crazy. I am so tired of the major players talking on national television like we, the people, are completely stupid. Does this grown woman think she sounds intelligent? Or concerned even? misty has done and said whatever she wants for 7 months and still the answers lie w/ her. But hey make sure she gets a little fun. (is'nt that what her life has been the past year or so, drugs and parties, getting to put on a wedding dress, not having to get a job...) jmo

I am with you. I am getting to the point I want to slap TN as hard as I want to slap Cindy A. What is with enabling people these days? In both families, the parental influences are not parenting but just enabling for bad and irresponsible behaviors.

I really believe that TN knows something and she has to be all sweet and nice to Misty so that her son ( even tho I dont think ROn did anything and Misty may have told him something later on) doesnt go down with Misty for witholding info. It makes sense since LC said she thinks her daughter is holding something back and flew the coop herself.

I also believe that they are not arresting Mistys family members to get them to spill the beans but to put pressure on Misty that way. If LC wants out of jail, shes gonna tell her daughter to start talking so they will get off her back. They need everyone to turn against Misty.

[CFMom]

Yet still a suspect-

GRACE: Do you believe that law enforcement has officially cleared your client, Ronald Cummings, of anything to do with her disappearance?

SHOEMAKER: Well, it`s kind of a tough situation to say they`ve officially cleared him 100 percent. When we met with law enforcement last week, they basically said they moved him from, you know, top of the list to the bottom of the list.

GRACE: Got it.

SHOEMAKER: Unless they were with him all night long, they can`t officially rule him out.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0909/08/ng.01.html

And we have no idea how big their list is, could be 10 people, could be 2, you never know-

Its been said that neither parent is a suspect. Check link in my sig.

[baywench]

Just catching up, and I agree. How can a 17yr with a 6th grade education, keep LE at bay? Not one person has been able to confirm that Misty was out of the home that night, not even Tommy's statement. I do think however that Misty knows WHO LE should be looking at, but for whatever reason, cannot or will not spill the beans.

How do you explain the evidence that says her story is bogus? That coming from LE? She did laundry....dirty laundry in the dryer. She was asleep....bed not slept in. She didn't just fall asleep and wakeup five minutes before Ron got home from work to find Haleigh missing. I don't buy it for a minute. How do you explain she changed her stories? Why would she do that? How did she flunk the LD? She's not fooling anyone, as I said before thinking she is guilty and proving it are two different things. Are you saying you believe her story? jmo

[CFMom]

Has anyone in the family been "Officially" ruled out?

IMO no one will be till the case is solved. However I am sure LE has an idea of who might be and who probably isnt..the guilty one by now.

[baywench]

I am with you. I am getting to the point I want to slap TN as hard as I want to slap Cindy A. What is with enabling people these days? In both families, the parental influences are not parenting but just enabling for bad and irresponsible behaviors.

I really believe that TN knows something and she has to be all sweet and nice to Misty so that her son ( even tho I dont think ROn did anything and Misty may have told him something later on) doesnt go down with Misty for witholding info. It makes sense since LC said she thinks her daughter is holding something back and flew the coop herself.

I also believe that they are not arresting Mistys family members to get them to spill the beans but to put pressure on Misty that way. If LC wants out of jail, shes gonna tell her daughter to start talking so they will get off her back. They need everyone to turn against Misty.

I hope you're right but i really wonder if misty really cares about her family being in jail. Definitely didn't care about her brother. I doubt she cares about her Mom either. Not a typical family here. More like a pack of wolves imo

[CFMom]

I hope you're right but i really wonder if misty really cares about her family being in jail. Definitely didn't care about her brother. I doubt she cares about her Mom either. Not a typical family here. More like a pack of wolves imo

I havent seen anything that shows her family cares for her much either. 6th grade education, living in cars, molested, allowed to live with a man...

[Chica]

Just catching up, and I agree. How can a 17yr with a 6th grade education, keep LE at bay? Not one person has been able to confirm that Misty was out of the home that night, not even Tommy's statement. I do think however that Misty knows WHO LE should be looking at, but for whatever reason, cannot or will not spill the beans.

I agree with you, Survivor. I am also beginning to doubt Tommy's recall of that night. I can't believe he would lie to the police but maybe that is because I have not been entangled with LE as Tommy has been.

[Januarybaby]

I hope you're right but i really wonder if misty really cares about her family being in jail. Definitely didn't care about her brother. I doubt she cares about her Mom either. Not a typical family here. More like a pack of wolves imo

I dont think Misty cares either but I bet LE is hoping she does. Maybe if her whole family turns against her she would have noone, but TN and RC enabling her really isnt helping.

[Chica]

HLN just reported that Ron and Misty will be on NG tonight-

I'll believe that when I see it.

[Survivor]

How do you explain the evidence that says her story is bogus? That coming from LE? She did laundry....dirty laundry in the dryer. She was asleep....bed not slept in. She didn't just fall asleep and wakeup five minutes before Ron got home from work to find Haleigh missing. I don't buy it for a minute. How do you explain she changed her stories? Why would she do that? How did she flunk the LD? She's not fooling anyone, as I said before thinking she is guilty and proving it are two different things. Are you saying you believe her story? jmo


No where in my post says I beleive her story. I said , nobody has been able to place her out of the home. Not even LE.

[?noanswer]

Tn send Lisa C. back to FL. Note what the article says her son stole from the man!


http://ow.ly/seDx

JMO

[Justice4all]

Did it ever say Ron and Misty?

nope..........

[?noanswer]

nope..........


Yesterday NG's facebook page said Ron & Misty would be on the show 10/1. It does not say that today. JMO

[Chica]

Tn send Lisa C. back to FL. Note what the article says her son stole from the man!


http://ow.ly/seDx

JMO

A shovel?? What about a GUN? Another very factual article.

[nana6]

Just catching up, and I agree. How can a 17yr with a 6th grade education, keep LE at bay? Not one person has been able to confirm that Misty was out of the home that night, not even Tommy's statement. I do think however that Misty knows WHO LE should be looking at, but for whatever reason, cannot or will not spill the beans.

Hi Survivor, I have thought that maybe Misty owed money to someone and did not pay up so this is what they did to her. I know it sounds far fetched but this case is so confusing.

[panman]

They also say when you point a finger you have a few pointing back at you- Those words will come back to haunt that family, imo.

If thats the case, then I am sure it might come back to haunt more than just that family.
jmo

[Chica]

Hi Survivor, I have thought that maybe Misty owed money to someone and did not pay up so this is what they did to her. I know it sounds far fetched but this case is so confusing.

Yes, I recall early on reading drugs was in the equation concerning both Ron and Misty. Sounds strange, but then what hasn't sounded strange? Anything is possible with this group. They don't seem to have honest, moral life values.

[?noanswer]

A shovel?? What about a GUN? Another very factual article.

Don't you just love it! Media has become so irresponsible. JMO

[Elle]

Tn send Lisa C. back to FL. Note what the article says her son stole from the man!


http://ow.ly/seDx

JMO

A shovel??? Confusing cases?

[Survivor]

Hi Survivor, I have thought that maybe Misty owed money to someone and did not pay up so this is what they did to her. I know it sounds far fetched but this case is so confusing.


I don't see that as a viable truth, mainly because, I think to actually kidnap/kill a child, the debt would have to be a BIG one, and who in there right mind, would allow a 16-17yr old that much credit towards drug purchases. HaLeigh isn't even a blood relative of Misty, so I don't see that scenario. Even if she was taken as "a drug debt", who would pay a ransom?

[Chica]

I don't see that as a viable truth, mainly because, I think to actually kidnap/kill a child, the debt would have to be a BIG one, and who in there right mind, would allow a 16-17yr old that much credit towards drug purchases. HaLeigh isn't even a blood relative of Misty, so I don't see that scenario. Even if she was taken as "a drug debt", who would pay a ransom?

Who said it had to make sense? How many kidnappings, rapes and murders made sense to anyone other than the perpetrator?

[?noanswer]

This Crosslin shovel thief also put himself at the MH at the time that Haleigh went missing. To me, that is who I would be looking at. Who puts themself at the scene of a crime?

Someone trying to get even with a sister for getting a RO against them? JMO

[Trissy]

The thing that gets me is when LE says they gave Misty an invitation to come in anytime with her lawyer and straighten out her timeline.....well that sounds like they will just wait until Misty makes up her mind. That may be NEVER. If LE never has any further leads and IF Misty is guilty then Misty gets off free. Something's rotten here. MOO

[2boysMom]

I don't see that as a viable truth, mainly because, I think to actually kidnap/kill a child, the debt would have to be a BIG one, and who in there right mind, would allow a 16-17yr old that much credit towards drug purchases. HaLeigh isn't even a blood relative of Misty, so I don't see that scenario. Even if she was taken as "a drug debt", who would pay a ransom?

I hate to even put this in writing, but she could have been sold to a child porn ring for drug money. (God forbid!).

[Survivor]

Who said it had to make sense? How many kidnappings, rapes and murders made sense to anyone other than the perpetrator?


Nana6 suggested a drug debt. I don't think that is true.

[Survivor]

I hate to even put this in writing, but she could have been sold to a child porn ring for drug money. (God forbid!).


Unfortunately that makes more sense than a drug debt to me. Has it been proven that any of these people are that addicted to drugs, that actually selling HaLeigh would be an option?
I don't have the answers, I'm just as clueless as to motive as the next poster. Accidental death? maybe, selling HaLeigh? maybe. I do know one thing for certain at this point, nothing is gonna surprise me.:sad:
I see two victims, HaLeigh and Jr. IMO

[Tracian]

I think NG's show is going to be much like the one she did on the Caylee case, a bunch of past clips, nothing new, no new interviews, just a rehash of the case to date.

[nana6]

Nana6 suggested a drug debt. I don't think that is true.

Hi Survivor, no, I just said in post182 that I thought maybe she owed money to someone I never mentioned a drug debt. Who knows though?

[nana6]

I feel like we are just creeping along here tonight. Is this board moving slowly to you all?

[JackieBlu]

Hi Survivor, no, I just said in post182 that I thought maybe she owed money to someone I never mentioned a drug debt. Who knows though?

If anyone owed money it seems the Croslin family, Hank Sr., Lisa and Tommy, would be at the top of that list. It has already been proven that they had to steal from others.

My thoughts and opinions

[nana6]

NG starting soon BBL friends:wub:

[CANDYKISSES]

Tn send Lisa C. back to FL. Note what the article says her son stole from the man!


http://ow.ly/seDx

JMO

WOWZA, a SHOVEL??????:crying: I hope that's a misprint. :sad:

[Survivor]

Hi Survivor, no, I just said in post182 that I thought maybe she owed money to someone I never mentioned a drug debt. Who knows though?


I stand corrected nana6! You did say debt, not drug debt. I apologize.:thumbup:

[?noanswer]

WOWZA, a SHOVEL??????:crying: I hope that's a misprint. :sad:


Guess that why his bond was so high!!!! JMO

[baywench]

I hate to even put this in writing, but she could have been sold to a child porn ring for drug money. (God forbid!).


That is an awfully small town. I just don't think they would have an organized ring that would be accessible from the small hoods in this saga. I don't think they have a huge organized drug ring either. If they do it is the worst kept secret in Satusuma since everyone seems to be getting busted. jmo

[?noanswer]

That is an awfully small town. I just don't think they would have an organized ring that would be accessible from the small hoods in this saga. I don't think they have a huge organized drug ring either. If they do it is the worst kept secret in Satusuma since everyone seems to be getting busted. jmo

For a small town, people must not gossip much. One would think something would have been revealed by now re Haleigh. JMO

[baywench]

For a small town, people must not gossip much. One would think something would have been revealed by now re Haleigh. JMO


I can't argue with you there noanswer. I have always thought it is odd that nothing has come out. I live in a small town and OMG do we talk. The gossip just flies (and it's usually pretty accurate). I have always thought it must be one person other than Misty that is involved, and that person must be quiet to protect themselves. Same with Misty, she is protecting herself as much as someone else. jmo

[?noanswer]

I can't argue with you there noanswer. I have always thought it is odd that nothing has come out. I live in a small town and OMG do we talk. The gossip just flies (and it's usually pretty accurate). I have always thought it must be one person other than Misty that is involved, and that person must be quiet to protect themselves. Same with Misty, she is protecting herself as much as someone else. jmo

It baffles me that Misty cannot be broken by LE. Sometimes I think she has told all that she is capable of telling. I just don't understand it. JMO

[Survivor]

I can't argue with you there noanswer. I have always thought it is odd that nothing has come out. I live in a small town and OMG do we talk. The gossip just flies (and it's usually pretty accurate). I have always thought it must be one person other than Misty that is involved, and that person must be quiet to protect themselves. Same with Misty, she is protecting herself as much as someone else. jmo

BBM

That is exactly what I was saying in the post you ask me about upthread. Our thoughts seem to jive. Different words, same concept.:wink:

[JackieBlu]

It baffles me that Misty cannot be broken by LE. Sometimes I think she has told all that she is capable of telling. I just don't understand it. JMO


?no ITA. That's why I always go back to the what IF she really was sleeping.

[Viva4Haleigh]

I can't argue with you there noanswer. I have always thought it is odd that nothing has come out. I live in a small town and OMG do we talk. The gossip just flies (and it's usually pretty accurate). I have always thought it must be one person other than Misty that is involved, and that person must be quiet to protect themselves. Same with Misty, she is protecting herself as much as someone else. jmo

Watching NG now, Misty says she does not have a lot of friends, she does not know alot of people in Welaka, just a few girls she knows she should not hang out with but does sometimes when she needs to get away- I do think whoever she is protecting is living with her, truth be told, I mean she needs nothing from her family, the Cummings have essentially adopted and embraced her since Haleigh went missing- That is odd- TN has a friend that can take her to Universal, but TN cant take her to the police station?

Something is very off-

jmo

[baywench]

It baffles me that Misty cannot be broken by LE. Sometimes I think she has told all that she is capable of telling. I just don't understand it. JMO

It baffles me too but I don't think she has told everything she can. Her stories about the blanket, the movies, the TV etc are indicative of someone lying. Too much information. She could not have slept through everything in my estimation, if she did she would have aced the poly. The one I can't believe is Ron, really, really? You continue to sleep with this one who evidence is mounting against? I guess all LE has circumstantial at this point. But Casey went to jail for bad checks, they had nothing on her until the body was found. What a horrible thought. jmo

[?noanswer]

Watching NG now, Misty says she does not have a lot of friends, she does not know alot of people in Welaka, just a few girls she knows she should not hang out with but does sometimes when she needs to get away- I do think whoever she is protecting is living with her, truth be told, I mean she needs nothing from her family, the Cummings have essentially adopted and embraced her since Haleigh went missing- That is odd- TN has a friend that can take her to Universal, but TN cant take her to the police station?

Something is very off-

jmo

I still can't see Misty as being capable of fooling LE for 7+ months and numerous hours of questioning. Somewhere along the line, It seems she would have slipped up by now. If she had always had an attorney by her side advising her when to talk, then maybe, but she winged it for several months. LE is supposed to be trained in methods to get someone to talk. It is still a mystery to me. JMO

[nana6]

I stand corrected nana6! You did say debt, not drug debt. I apologize.:thumbup:


Don't be silly Survivor, no apology necessary at all:wink:

[baywench]

Watching NG now, Misty says she does not have a lot of friends, she does not know alot of people in Welaka, just a few girls she knows she should not hang out with but does sometimes when she needs to get away- I do think whoever she is protecting is living with her, truth be told, I mean she needs nothing from her family, the Cummings have essentially adopted and embraced her since Haleigh went missing- That is odd- TN has a friend that can take her to Universal, but TN cant take her to the police station?

Something is very off-

jmo


It is those kind of things that lead me back to she has to be covering for Ron in some capacity. Did they have drugs in the house? Did she not put them away properly but Ron and her both would be in trouble? The 911 call is so bizarre. So staged to me. But before anyone starts hollering at me, I've got a few thousand theories. All theories make someone mad. jmo

[?noanswer]

Does anyone have the scanner link. Is anyone listening to the scanner? JMO

[Survivor]

Does anyone have the scanner link. Is anyone listening to the scanner? JMO


http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369

[?noanswer]

http://www.radioreference.com/apps/audio/?ctid=369


Thanks JMO

[VC2]

I don't believe that Ronald had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, or covering it up.

However i do think he is the poster boy for how stupid men can be about women!!!! :glare:

Alot of people think its women who blindly believe in their partner..in this case Ronald proves its men too. Even though i think he is beginning to see the light but still won't accept it until there is something tangible to link misty to it.

Yet i am still not sure if he let her back in the house to keep an eye on her or be there if she slips...but he clearly so hopes it is not Misty. Stupid man thinks bc he loves/d her that she would never hurt his child. then again..how many of us would be willing to accept our partners are responsible?

imo

[panman]

Watching NG now, Misty says she does not have a lot of friends, she does not know alot of people in Welaka, just a few girls she knows she should not hang out with but does sometimes when she needs to get away- I do think whoever she is protecting is living with her, truth be told, I mean she needs nothing from her family, the Cummings have essentially adopted and embraced her since Haleigh went missing- That is odd- TN has a friend that can take her to Universal, but TN cant take her to the police station?

Something is very off-

jmo

Truth be told, I don't believe its anyone she is living with, IMO.

[JackieBlu]

Does anyone have the scanner link. Is anyone listening to the scanner? JMO

Is something up ?no....did you hear something? TIA

[?noanswer]

Is something up ?no....did you hear something? TIA

I just turned it on when I got the link. I don't understand the codes! Something about a complaintant in a blue pickup - now 104 Timberwork terrace. Office across st. Patient alert. 15 yo male.

I haven't heard anything about what someone else reported on another site.

JMO

[Survivor]

I just turned it on when I got the link. I don't understand the codes! Something about a complaintant in a blue pickup - now 104 Timberwork terrace. Office across st. Patient alert. 15 yo male.

I haven't heard anything about what someone else reported on another site.

JMO


Sure! Tease us with that kind of "tip" :tonguewag:

[?noanswer]

Sure! Tease us with that kind of "tip" :tonguewag:

Sorry, just trying to stay out of trouble!!! JMO

[Diamond1]

If anyone owed money it seems the Croslin family, Hank Sr., Lisa and Tommy, would be at the top of that list. It has already been proven that they had to steal from others.

My thoughts and opinions

When were they convicted?

[Survivor]

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[panman]

When were they convicted?

When was Ron?

[Survivor]

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[CFMom]

Another one...


Coldwater
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Why are you posting these?

[baywench]

Why are you posting these?

I was wondering the same thing, I thought I missed something. jmo

[Survivor]

Why are you posting these?


lol Because ?noanswer said that "someone had heard something on another site and wanted the link for the scanner.

So I was bolding CW's rules on linking to other sites. The link itself to the site that the rumour is floating at this time. Nothing other than that.

[emdragon]

I don't believe that Ronald had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, or covering it up.

However i do think he is the poster boy for how stupid men can be about women!!!! :glare:

Alot of people think its women who blindly believe in their partner..in this case Ronald proves its men too. Even though i think he is beginning to see the light but still won't accept it until there is something tangible to link misty to it.

Yet i am still not sure if he let her back in the house to keep an eye on her or be there if she slips...but he clearly so hopes it is not Misty. Stupid man thinks bc he loves/d her that she would never hurt his child. then again..how many of us would be willing to accept our partners are responsible?

imo

I don't know about that- I think Ron is running neck and neck with my best friend who is doing 52 years because he thought the girl loved him and he had some twisted code of honor-

So because of that experience I can understand Ron keeping Misty around. It isn't rational and it is bizarre but I do "get it" to some extent.

[?noanswer]

I don't know about that- I think Ron is running neck and neck with my best friend who is doing 52 years because he thought the girl loved him and he had some twisted code of honor-

So because of that experience I can understand Ron keeping Misty around. It isn't rational and it is bizarre but I do "get it" to some extent.

Are you saying "Luv is blind!"? JMO

[baywench]

I don't know about that- I think Ron is running neck and neck with my best friend who is doing 52 years because he thought the girl loved him and he had some twisted code of honor-

So because of that experience I can understand Ron keeping Misty around. It isn't rational and it is bizarre but I do "get it" to some extent.


Before tonight it never really occurred to me that Ron might really love her. His history with women is so sketchy and he hadn't known her that long. Plus she had just cheated on him. Poor guy if he is. jmo

[VC2]

I don't know about that- I think Ron is running neck and neck with my best friend who is doing 52 years because he thought the girl loved him and he had some twisted code of honor-

So because of that experience I can understand Ron keeping Misty around. It isn't rational and it is bizarre but I do "get it" to some extent.

yeah i get it too. its just down to men aren't always smart when it comes to women and a code of honor. I have always thought men are more emotionally tied to the women in their lives than we realize at times. Which makes them easy targets for a bad woman.

[VC2]

Before tonight it never really occurred to me that Ron might really love her. His history with women is so sketchy and he hadn't known her that long. Plus she had just cheated on him. Poor guy if he is. jmo

Oh i always thought he loved her. perhaps not in a mature way, if anything he was mature with how he tried to care for his kids given what he knew and the skills he had (imo) but as far as women went? No he hadn't grown up enough, which is why he had a sketchy history. Sadly i think he is far more mature now but he has one heavy burden that is going to get heavier when/if he realizes that Misty is involved. Which might be one reason he is unable to right now.

Tonight on NG it was interesting to see the changes in him from the beginning to tonight. He has grown up a lot, and i think he is prepared if misty is proven to have done it but won't go there until necessary. he can't. god it means he brought in a child killer to his kids.

[Sugarpunk1]

Well, at least we learned last night Misty is back home with Ron. And according to the Nancy Grace show (TN), her lawyer has told her to not come in for anymore questioning. JMO.

What irritates me so is this. Lawyers! Misty holds the key (supposedly) to the answers regarding Haleigh, and her lawyer (all lawyers) tell her to keep her mouth shut. How is this in the best interest of the child. Who is on Haleigh's side? Can this lawyer not see, what type of people these are, and is he doing this stuff for free? Is he not obstructing justice or an investigation? I just don't:cursing: see where he (the lawyer) can get away with this.

[baywench]

Oh i always thought he loved her. perhaps not in a mature way, if anything he was mature with how he tried to care for his kids given what he knew and the skills he had (imo) but as far as women went? No he hadn't grown up enough, which is why he had a sketchy history. Sadly i think he is far more mature now but he has one heavy burden that is going to get heavier when/if he realizes that Misty is involved. Which might be one reason he is unable to right now.

Tonight on NG it was interesting to see the changes in him from the beginning to tonight. He has grown up a lot, and i think he is prepared if misty is proven to have done it but won't go there until necessary. he can't. god it means he brought in a child killer to his kids.

That last sentenence gave me chills. It would be unfathomable grief to lose a child but then to know you had even the tiniest bit of responsiblity would be agonizing. There is usually guilt when someone dies even if their loved ones had no responsibility. I can see he and his Mom not throwing her under a bus, but keeping her close to them has got to be excruitiating. Poor little Jr. It can't be much fun around there. jmo

[?noanswer]

What irritates me so is this. Lawyers! Misty holds the key (supposedly) to the answers regarding Haleigh, and her lawyer (all lawyers) tell her to keep her mouth shut. How is this in the best interest of the child. Who is on Haleigh's side? Can this lawyer not see, what type of people these are, and is he doing this stuff for free? Is he not obstructing justice or an investigation? I just don't:cursing: see where he (the lawyer) can get away with this.

It's the law. Everyone has a right to an attorney and if you can't afford one we will provide one or words to that effect. That is supposed to be one of the first thing LE tells a person (miranda rights). JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

I'm sure y'all are already aware, but JIC
There is a MH on fire in Hermit's Cove.
Fully involved. Per scanner

Anyone we know? BTW, ?NA, you've got mail. :unsure:

[Trissy]

I just turned it on when I got the link. I don't understand the codes! Something about a complaintant in a blue pickup - now 104 Timberwork terrace. Office across st. Patient alert. 15 yo male.

I haven't heard anything about what someone else reported on another site.

JMO

If u cant post it here, can u please PM whats said on the othr site? TIA

[baywench]

What irritates me so is this. Lawyers! Misty holds the key (supposedly) to the answers regarding Haleigh, and her lawyer (all lawyers) tell her to keep her mouth shut. How is this in the best interest of the child. Who is on Haleigh's side? Can this lawyer not see, what type of people these are, and is he doing this stuff for free? Is he not obstructing justice or an investigation? I just don't:cursing: see where he (the lawyer) can get away with this.
.
Look at all the crap Baez got away with. What amazes me is that there are lawyers that will even defend some of these people. You really have to have a strong constitution to defend a child killer, molester, murderer etc. I realize everyone deserves the right to an attorney but geez. We are all on Haleigh's side. We are all here for the same reason. We sit here day after day when we should be doing other things because we were captivated by this child. I have friends and family that think it is just weird how closely I will follow this case. It is a pleasure to be here with the rest of you wierdos who understand our purpose. jmo

[VC2]

That last sentenence gave me chills. It would be unfathomable grief to lose a child but then to know you had even the tiniest bit of responsiblity would be agonizing. There is usually guilt when someone dies even if their loved ones had no responsibility. I can see he and his Mom not throwing her under a bus, but keeping her close to them has got to be excruitiating. Poor little Jr. It can't be much fun around there. jmo

Yes...but i think that is why he "has" to believe in her until there is no choice. Same with his mom. I think they have to support her (and of course its sort of smart in case she does slip) if only for their own sanity at the moment.

The only thing i am absolutely convinced of is that Ron would give his own life to get Haleigh back and had nothing to do with her disappearance unless just being with misty can be called that.

Many things that seem inexplicable become easy to understand when you take in emotions

[Justme2]

koawally, I wanted to reply to you post 2 topics back. You said,

Originally Posted by koawally View Post
Murt was being harassed day and night with calls, email hacking etc

He was fed up...the caller kept accusing Murt of disgusting things and Murt would just let him ramble...the calls kept coming and Murt probablly didn't use his best judgement; but when the caller continued to call to harrass & accuse him Murt would say yeah thats right Blah blah blah...

The LE must believe as I do that Murt didn't do anything wrong other than use bad judgement with how he dealt with the stress of these calls. Murt taped all calls. I'm sure the LE have listened to them all instead of a small portion which has been seen.

Praying Hayleigh comes hoom soon

What was in those docs was not a phone conversation but rather a Pm Murt was having with someone on Paltalk. The other night he said he was joking when he said all that then the following day he said the screen shots were altered. Once he realized no one found it funny he claims they were altered. BTW he claims to have received over 1000 pages of docs from the States Attorney office through email. That would be about 900 more pages then the real media got. LOL

[Trissy]

Yes...but i think that is why he "has" to believe in her until there is no choice. Same with his mom. I think they have to support her (and of course its sort of smart in case she does slip) if only for their own sanity at the moment.

The only thing i am absolutely convinced of is that Ron would give his own life to get Haleigh back and had nothing to do with her disappearance unless just being with misty can be called that.

Many things that seem inexplicable become easy to understand when you take in emotions

I dont think Ron or TN would be shocked or surprised if it was proven that Misty is the culprit. I have heard both of them say "no matter who it is". I think that statement is sending a message. I think they both know its Misty but dont have the proof. MOO

[Trissy]

koawally, I wanted to reply to you post 2 topics back. You said,



What was in those docs was not a phone conversation but rather a Pm Murt was having with someone on Paltalk. The other night he said he was joking when he said all that then the following day he said the screen shots were altered. Once he realized no one found it funny he claims they were altered. BTW he claims to have received over 1000 pages of docs from the States Attorney office through email. That would be about 900 more pages then the real media got. LOL

Is Murt still streaming? TIA

[Sugarpunk1]

Just catching up, and I agree. How can a 17yr with a 6th grade education, keep LE at bay? Not one person has been able to confirm that Misty was out of the home that night, not even Tommy's statement. I do think however that Misty knows WHO LE should be looking at, but for whatever reason, cannot or will not spill the beans.

There are two kinds of smart. There are book smart, which Misty is not, then there are street smart, which Misty is. Street smart people know not to talk to the police. She knows how this works, for a 17 year old she has been around the block. This is my own opinion.

[BitterSweet]

I'm sure y'all are already aware, but JIC
There is a MH on fire in Hermit's Cove.
Fully involved. Per scanner


Just got home from work R.R.
Anything interesting? Feel free to pm.
BitterSweet

[CNTM]

Here are the scanner codes for Putnam County so you can translate what is happening.

SIGNALS
0 ARMED WITH WEAPON
1 DRUNK DRIVER
2 DRUNK PEDESTRIAN
3 HIT AND RUN CRASH
4 TRAFFIC CRASH
4I TRAFFIC CRASH WITH INJURIES
5 MURDER
6 ESCAPED PRISONER
7 DECEASED PERSON
8 MISSING PERSON
9 STOLEN TAG
10 STOLEN VEHICLE
11 ABANDONDED VEHICLE
12 RECLESS DRIVER
13 SUSPICIOUS VEHICLE
13I SUSPICIOUS INCIDENT
13P SUSPICIOUS PERSON
14 INFORMATION
14G INFORMATION -- GAS
14W INFORMATION -- WATER
15 SPECIAL DETAIL
16 ROAD OR OTHER OBSTRUCTION
17 SICK PERSON
18 FELONY
19 MISDEMEANOR
20 MENTALLY ILL PERSON
20V MENTALLY ILL PERSON -- VIOLENT
21 BURGLARY
21B BURGLARY OF A BUSINESS
21BA ATTEMPTED BURGLARY OF A BUSINESS
21BI BURGLARY OF A BUSINESS IN PROGRESS
21I BURGLARY IN PROGRESS
21R BURGLARY OF A RESIDENCE
21RA ATTEMPTED BURGLARY OF A RESIDENCE
21RI BURGLARY OF A RESIDENCE IN PROGRESS
21V BURGLARY OF A VEHICLE
21VA ATTEMPTED BURGLARY OF A VEHICLE
21VI BURGLARY OF A VEHICLE IN PROGRESS
22 DISTURBANCE
22I DISTURBANCE IN PROGRESS
22F FAMILY DISTURBANCE
22FI FAMILY DISTURBANCE IN PROGRESS
22J JUVENILE DISTURBANCE
22JI JUVENILE DISTURBANCE IN PROGRESS
22N NEIGHBORHOOD DISTURBANCE
22NI NEIGHBORHOOD DISTURBANCE IN PROGRESS
23 PEDESTRIAN/HITCHHICKER
24A ARMED ROBBERY
24AI ARMED ROBBERY IN PROGRESS
24S STRONG ARMED ROBBERY
24SI STRONG ARMED ROBBERY IN PROGRESS
25 FIRE 25B BRUSH FIRE
25F FIRE ALARM
25G GARBAGE FIRE
25HM HAZARDOUS MATERIALS INCIDENT
25IS SMOKE INSIDE A STRUCTURE
25IO SMOKE OUTSIDE A STRUCTURE
25M MOBILE HOME FIRE
25M0 MUTUAL AID -- OTHER
25MS MUTUAL AID -- STRUCTURE
25S STRUCTURE FIRE
25UB UNAUTHORIZED BURN
25V VEHICLE FIRE
25X MISCELLANEOUS FIRE
26B BREATHING DIFFICULTY
26C CARDIAC EMERGENCY
26D DROWNING
26E ELECTROCUTION
27 PROWLER/PEEPING TOM
28 RIOT/CIVIL DISORDER
29 RECKLESS OPERATION OF A BOAT
30 BOMB THREAT
31 DRUG CASE
31X DRUG OVERDOSE
32 ALARM
32B BURGLARY ALARM
32F FIRE ALARM
32P PANIC ALARM 32R ROBBERY ALARM
33 DISCHARGING FIREARM
34 OFFICER CALLING FOR HELP
35 OFFICER REQUESTING BACK-UP
36 MEET AN OFFICER @_________
37 POWER LINES DOWN
38 TRAFFIC ASSIGNMENT
39 ABDUCTION/KIDNAPPING
40 THEFT
40I THEFT IN PROGRESS
41 DRAG RACING
42 VANDALISM/CRIMINAL MISCHIEF
42I VANDALISM/CRIMINAL MISCHIEF IN PROGRESS
43 SUBJECT SHOT
44 CIVIL DISPUTE
44I CIVIL DISPUTE IN PROGRESS
45 TRESPASSING
45I TRESPASSING IN PROGRESS
46 AIRCRAFT CRASH
47 BOATING CRASH
48 RAILROAD CRASH/INCIDENT
49 OBSCENE/THREATENING PX CALLS
50 FOUND/ABANDONED PROPERTY
51 FOLLOW-UP INVESTIGATION
52 GARBAGE/LITTERING COMPLAINT
53 INJURY
53AB INJURY FROM AN ANIMAL BITE
53F INJURY FROM A FALL
54 ILLEGALLY PARKED VEHICLE
55 WEATHER REPORT
56 JUVENILE REPOR/COMPLAINT
57 PERSON CALLING FOR HELP
58 BATTERY OR ASSAULT
58 BATTERY OR ASSAULT IN PROGRESS
59 VEHICLE MAINTENANCE
60 SUICIDE
60G SUICIDE BY GUNSHOT WOUND (GSW)
60H SUICIDE BY HANGING
60OD SUICIDE BY OVERDOSE
61 FIGHT IN PROGRESS
62 CUTTING/STABBING
63 LOUD NOISE
64 ANIMAL COMPLAINT
64C ANIMAL COMPLAINT -- COW
64D ANIMAL COMPLAINT -- DOG
64H ANIMAL COMPLAINT -- HORSE
65 SEX OFFENSE
66 FALSE ALARM/PRANK
67 VEHICLE IN THE DITCH
68 GAS LEAK
68N GAS LEAK -- NATURAL GAS
68P GAS LEAK -- PROPANE
69 FLIM FLAM/ CON GAME
70 PROPERTY/BUILDING CHECK
71 CITIZEN ASSIST
72 RETAIL THEFT
73 BLOOD RUN
74 CONCEALED WEAPON
75 CONTROLLED BURN
76 ASSIST OTHER AGENCY
77 SITUATION UNDER CONTROL
78 PROPERTY DAMAGE
79 CHILD ABUSE
80 SURVEILLANCE/STAKEOUT
81 LOST PROPERTY
82 DELIVER MESSAGE TO PUBLIC
83 TRANSPORT PRISONER
84 INCREASED PATROL ASSIGNMENT
85 OPEN DOOR/WINDOW
86 THREAT/HARASSMENT
87 ILLEGALLY DUMPING
88 WORTHLESS CHECK/DOCUMENT FORGERY
89 REPOSSESSION
90 COMPUTER SYSTEM DOWN
91 9-1-1 HANG-UP
92 POSSIBLE COUNTERFEIT MONEY
93 ARSON
94 FFWCC VIOLATION
95 ROLL CALL
96 UNSECURED BUILDING
97 HOME SECURITY CHECK
98 FIELD CONTACT
99 VIN VERIFICATION
100 NON-EMERGENCY TRANSPORT

10-CODES
10-1 RECEIVING POORLY
10-2 RECEIVING WELL
10-3 STOP TRANSMITTING
10-4 ACKNOWLEDGEMENT
10-5 RELAY TO________
10-6 BUSY
10-7 OUT OF SERIVCE
10-8 IN SERVICE
10-9 REPEAT LAST TRANSMISSION
10-10 OUT OF SERVICE; SUBJECT TO CALLS
10-11 TRANSMITTING TOO RAPIDLY
10-12 OFFICIALS OR VISITORS PRESENT
10-13 CONDITION/STATUS
10-14 ESCORT/CONVOY
10-15 PRISONER IN CUSTODY
10-16 P/u PRISONER @_______________
10-17 SUBJECT PRESENT
10-18 COMPLETE ASSIGNMENT QUICKLY
10-19 RETURN TO STATION
10-20 WHAT IS YOUR LOCATION?
10-21 CALL STATION BY PHONE
10-22 DISREGARD
10-23 STAND BY
10-24 OFFICER IN TROUBLE - SEND HELP
10-25 IN CONTACT WITH_______________
10-26 MESSAGE RECEIVED
10-27 DRIVER'S LICENSE CHECK
10-28 REGISTRATION CHECK
10-29 WANTED/STOLEN CHECK
10-29P WANTED PERSON CHECK
10-30 AGAINST RULES AN REGULATIONS
10-31 IN PURSUIT OF_______________
10-32 BREATH TEST OPERATOR
10-33 EMERGENCY TRAFFIC
10-34 JAIL BREAK/TROUBLE AT JAIL
10-35 CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION
10-36 WHAT IS THE CORRECT TIME?
10-37 OPERATOR ON DUTY
10-38 BLOCK ROAD @______________
10-39 MESSAGE DELIVERED TO______
10-41 IN POSSESSION OF__________
10-42 OUT OF SERVICE; AT HOME
10-43 ANY TRAFFIC/INFORMATION FOR__________
10-44 P/u PAPERS/PAPERWORK
10-45 CALL_________BY PHONE
10-46 URGENT
10-47 EMERGENCY RADIO REPAIR
10-48 DID YOU RECEIVE?
10-49 ARREST WARRANT/CAPIAS
10-50 TRAFFIC STOP (10-20 AND TAG#)
10-51 ENROUTE TO____________
10-52 ESTIMATED TIME OF ARRIVAL
10-53 EROUTE TO SHERIFF'S OFFICE
10-54 NEGATIVE
10-55 CAR CALLING CAR
10-56 MEET_________AT___________
10-57 AT PISTOL RANGE
10-58 GASSING VEHICLE
10-59 SEND TELETYPE TO__________
10-60 VERIFY JURISDICTION
10-61 SUPERVISOR CHECK REPORT
10-62 NEED ROAD SUPERVISOR
10-63 CROME SCENE
10-64 NO OTHER INFORMATION AVAILABLE
10-65 CAN YOU COPY? 10-66 CANCEL
10-67 SERVING CIVIL PROCESS
10-68 NEED LEGAL INFORMATION
10-70 SEND WRECKER
10-71 SEND EMS
10-72 SEND LEO
10-73 SEND HELICOPTER
10-74 OFFICER CHECK
10-80 CHANGE CHANNEL/FREQUENCY
10-81 OFF DUTY IN ASSIGNED VEHICLE
10-82 ON PAGER 10-83 NEED SWAT TEAM
10-84 AWAY FROM UNIT ON PORTABLE
10-86 BEGINNING TOUR OF DUTY
10-87 ENDING TOUR OF DUTY
10-88 PX#___________CAN BE REACHED AT
10-89 CASE/CONTROL NUMBER 10-90 SCRAMBLE
10-93 DETECTIVE NEEDED AT____________
10-94 MEAL BREAK
10-97 ARRIVAL AT
10-98 ASSIGNMENT COMPLETED
10-99 NOT RECEIVING SIGNAL
10-100 ALERT-- KEEP IN TOUCH BY PHONE

[Justice4all]

Not another word. Sorry.
I thought with both Croslins and their 2 companions/.... stopped and checked out... it may be 'something'... :shrug:
LE sure are keeping close tabs on those Croslins IMO

[Trissy]

LE sure are keeping close tabs on those Croslins IMO

I thought Hank Sr. was in Tn? Is he back now?

[CNTM]

It seems that way.

Anyone else having trouble with the jail booking log tonight?
It won't open for me.
TIA

Doesn't load for me either.

[BitterSweet]

Doesn't load for me either.


Nothing.
:shrug: Never happened to me before, as in the last six months.
IMO


BitterSweet

[BitterSweet]

Just about all of us then. Humm
Last time that happened (sort of) was the Saturday Misty came in to talk to LE last.
No bookings for nearly 8 or 9 hours.
Maybe it's Lisa being in custody?

MOO

Seems odd to me ( JMO ). 8-9 hours!?
Something (someone) has got to give the truth about where Haleigh is. I hope and pray that is happening tonight. MOO
BitterSweet

[FoxySly]

~

FACT is that TN did NOT POINT A FINGER at the croslin's so TN did NOT have, as the old saying goes, have her other fingers pointing back at her.

FACT is that TN SPOKE some TRUTHS that she KNOWS AS FACTS about the croslin's.
Heck, anyone who has checked the online court documents or any of their writings, heard them talk, KNOWS the croslin's are very dysfunctional and TN knows them better then what we have read or seen.

The TRUTH is a good thing IMO.

Sly

~

[Justice4all]

It seems that way.

Anyone else having trouble with the jail booking log tonight?
It won't open for me.
TIA

yeah i was for awhile there. but now it's working.

[BitterSweet]

yeah i was for awhile there. but now it's working.

thanks Justice..will revisit.

BitterSweet

[aproudmom]

LE sure are keeping close tabs on those Croslins IMO

they sure are...

[aproudmom]

According to the scanner earlier he and Tommy were stopped in a car with two others.

Maybe their wife and mother headed back to Putnam County from lock-up in TN is bringing the crew back south.
Could Timmy be far behind?

MOO

boy you guys are good with the scanner and knowing what is going on..:thumbup:

[aproudmom]

~

FACT is that TN did NOT POINT A FINGER at the croslin's so TN did NOT have, as the old saying goes, have her other fingers pointing back at her.

FACT is that TN SPOKE some TRUTHS that she KNOWS AS FACTS about the croslin's.
Heck, anyone who has checked the online court documents or any of their writings, heard them talk, KNOWS the croslin's are very dysfunctional and TN knows them better then what we have read or seen.

The TRUTH is a good thing IMO.

Sly

~

Sly in this case there is alot of dysfunctional and it does not stop with the croslin's...IMO