Obama Facebook Poll Developer Comes Forward

[Hey Paula]

EXCERPT:

Perhaps it might amuse some and appall others to discover that he is an Obama supporter.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10363336-71.html


My Opinion:

I suspected this all along, and I believe it is in keeping with everything else we've been seeing and hearing from the left Congress and this regime, most recently from Pelosi and earlier from the DHS. Sadly, all of this falls in line with my belief that the scene is being set for what I deem the unthinkable.

I'm one of those who is appalled, and I don't think posting that poll was merely folly.

ETA: I thought it was important to let everyone know and the other thread, accusing the Right, was closed.

[Hey Paula]

Case in point as per NYT columnist Tom Friedman et al.

"What kind of madness is it that someone would create a poll on Facebook asking respondents, 'Should Obama be killed?' The choices were: 'No, Maybe, Yes, and Yes if he cuts my health care.' The Secret Service is now investigating. I hope they put the jerk in jail and throw away the key because this is exactly what was being done to Rabin."

http://www.politico.com/politico44/perm/0909/friedman_enough_db27f39a-1db6-4feb-ad31-bc9bf026b199.html

Friedman certainly misjudged this and all but accused someone who doesn't support BO as being responsible for posting the Facebook poll, and like Pelosi, the DHS, et al, has accused the wrong person of crossing the line and putting BO's life at risk.

I do agree with Friedman that the pollster should be thrown in jail and they should throw the key away.

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

EXCERPT:

Perhaps it might amuse some and appall others to discover that he is an Obama supporter.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10363336-71.html


My Opinion:

I suspected this all along, and I believe it is in keeping with everything else we've been seeing and hearing from the left Congress and this regime, most recently from Pelosi and earlier from the DHS. Sadly, all of this falls in line with my belief that the scene is being set for what I deem the unthinkable.

I'm one of those who is appalled, and I don't think posting that poll was merely folly.

ETA: I thought it was important to let everyone know and the other thread, accusing the Right, was closed.

And "the right" was demonized by so many as being behind this right here on this board, the things said were terrible because they KNEW someone from the religious right or freak right or whatever nasty name they could come up with. I wonder how many will apologize for making assumptions?

Most likely none and then there will be those who will say they need not apologize because the right has done so much wrong or are capable of such, :rolleyes:

[Lady_Jean_La]

Thanks so much for this. I have the idea he wanted to prove a point by everyone voting no. Will we ever know how people voted? Probably not. imo

[cbhope]

Thanks so much for this. I have the idea he wanted to prove a point by everyone voting no. Will we ever know how people voted? Probably not. imo

More importantly, will the originator of the thread and the link provided (huffnpuff) ever update the story or apologize for starting a thread that was intended to begin the derogatory comments?

[MercedesV]

More importantly, will the originator of the thread and the link provided (huffnpuff) ever update the story or apologize for starting a thread that was intended to begin the derogatory comments?

I started a thread on a news item, I have nothing to apologize for. I was going to post about the latest development but this thread was already here. Should I have started a second?

You have no idea why I started a thread and you are wrong to make the comments you posted here. If anyone should apologize it is you for assuming you knew why I did what I did. And assuming wrong. Before you get on your high horse take a look at a lot of threads on these boards and claim they aren't negative threads meant to get derogatory comments. If they are against Obama you don't care perhaps? Or maybe you just missed all of them? Perhaps the one about the Olympics, or perhaps the one about charisma. Just for starters.

From where I stand, the poll is every bit as disgusting tonight as it was when I posted the original thread. I could care less if the person claims they are an Obama supporter. The poll was plain flat out wrong. Who started it doesn't change that. Nor does it change the fact there is a lot of right wing hate talk out there. Perhaps you missed the NewsMax story about having a coup in this country to solve the Obama problem.

[MercedesV]

More importantly, will the originator of the thread and the link provided (huffnpuff) ever update the story or apologize for starting a thread that was intended to begin the derogatory comments?

And perhaps get all your facts straight. I posted two links in the op of that thread. The story was not huffington. By the way we aren't suppose to change names as you did, against the rules. The huffington link was to show a picture of the poll.

[LisaM22]

EXCERPT:

Perhaps it might amuse some and appall others to discover that he is an Obama supporter.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10363336-71.html


My Opinion:

I suspected this all along, and I believe it is in keeping with everything else we've been seeing and hearing from the left Congress and this regime, most recently from Pelosi and earlier from the DHS. Sadly, all of this falls in line with my belief that the scene is being set for what I deem the unthinkable.

I'm one of those who is appalled, and I don't think posting that poll was merely folly.

ETA: I thought it was important to let everyone know and the other thread, accusing the Right, was closed.

I would still investigate those that voted yes even if it was a Obama supporters that set up the poll

[LisaM22]

Thanks so much for this. I have the idea he wanted to prove a point by everyone voting no. Will we ever know how people voted? Probably not. imo

I too would like to know the results and who the author was

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10363336-71.html

"Jesse Farmer, of Bumbalabs in Palo Alto, Calif., has given permission for Facebook to reveal that he was the developer, but, significantly, not the author behind the poll that nauseated many Monday."

not sure what the "developer" meant and how he relates to the author, seems like more research is needed to verify if this still unknown person is a Obama supporter that started the poll, but regardless, those that voted yes are the ones we need to look at

[Dustee]

Is this really even news/discussion worthy?
Who cares about a Facebook thing?

Where's that next straw to be grasped at?

"Some" cared a lot when they thought the Right Wing was somehow responsible for it.

[CANDYKISSES]

"Some" cared a lot when they thought the Right Wing was somehow responsible for it.

Well Dustee, this could be considered an example of the agitation phase Alinsky talks about in one of his books on socialism. JMOOC. :sneaky:

[LisaM22]

"Some" cared a lot when they thought the Right Wing was somehow responsible for it.

it was always the people voting "yes", but we still do not know who this unknown author was, just the poll developer says he thinks he is a Obama supporter, which really matters not, it's those that voted "YES" that are the concern and need to be investigated, I know the Obama administration would never do it, but they "could" lock them up for the next 8 years thanks to the Bush Patriot act, no trial needed

[momof6]

And "the right" was demonized by so many as being behind this right here on this board, the things said were terrible because they KNEW someone from the religious right or freak right or whatever nasty name they could come up with. I wonder how many will apologize for making assumptions?

Most likely none and then there will be those who will say they need not apologize because the right has done so much wrong or are capable of such, :rolleyes:

I would hope some of the bashing posters would humble themselves and apologize to the other posters on here who were again made out to be demons because the liberals on here "thought" it was a GOP, right winger, or religious fanatic.

[momof6]

cbhope .... If we're going to be fair here, aren't MANY of the threads started to begin derogatory comments ?? I've seen many comments which I would consider being derogatory. Are they only derogatory when you deem they come from "one side" ??

jmo

Please read the topic of this forum and stay on topic.

[Lady_Jean_La]

I would still investigate those that voted yes even if it was a Obama supporters that set up the poll
Did anyone vote yes?
:confused:

[cbhope]

cbhope .... If we're going to be fair here, aren't MANY of the threads started to begin derogatory comments ?? I've seen many comments which I would consider being derogatory. Are they only derogatory when you deem they come from "one side" ??

jmo

Yes, there are. In fact, I believe it is sometimes like a game. "Republicans smell like cheese" "Democrats smell like old socks". And on and on. Regardless, we will never change the minds of either side. Sadly, however, is the fact that it is very seldom there is true debate and discussion on the issues that are brought forth rather automatic attacks or blaming. It's nice to see some real point/counterpoint going on but there are some that just would prefer to attack a party or person.

Oh, well, life goes on and it is, after all, a message board where people can feel free to discuss what is important to them.

[Dustee]

it was always the people voting "yes", but we still do not know who this unknown author was, just the poll developer says he thinks he is a Obama supporter, which really matters not, it's those that voted "YES" that are the concern and need to be investigated, I know the Obama administration would never do it, but they "could" lock them up for the next 8 years thanks to the Bush Patriot act, no trial needed

not to mention Obama's extension of the Patriot Act...

[LisaM22]

not to mention Obama's extension of the Patriot Act...

republicans gave our government that power, it will be very hard to take it away now, just glad Obama is not abusing it like Bush was, but it still scares me

[MiamiNice1]

More importantly, will the originator of the thread and the link provided (huffnpuff) ever update the story or apologize for starting a thread that was intended to begin the derogatory comments?
That reminds me.....yooohooo.....theal3......what say you NOW after all those insulting posts on that thread about "the uncalled for and disgusting hate from the Right"???

Wow. Embarrassing.

:blushing:

[Lady_Jean_La]

republicans gave our government that power, it will be very hard to take it away now, just glad Obama is not abusing it like Bush was, but it still scares me
Didn't any democrats vote for it?

[LisaM22]

Didn't any democrats vote for it?

republicans had the final say, nothing passed without their approval

[LisaM22]

That reminds me.....yooohooo.....theal3......what say you NOW after all those insulting posts on that thread about "the uncalled for and disgusting hate from the Right"???

Wow. Embarrassing.

:blushing:

we still do not know how many yes votes or for sure who the author of the poll is, yet alone his support for a party, if anyone voted yes, they are the ones to look at

[Barbara2]

Didn't any democrats vote for it?

One democrat voted against it:

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=1&vote=00313

[MercedesV]

We appear to have resolution to the investigation. The developer mentioned in the op of this thread didn't start the poll. From the link:

When a poll was posted to the popular social networking site Facebook asking if President Obama should be killed, the Secret Service launched an investigation.

Today they announced the results: Turns out a kid was behind the poll. And no criminal charges will be filed against him or his parents, according to the Associated Press, citing a Secret Service spokesman.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/01/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5355792.shtml

The developer was for the third party application, not starting the poll. A kid started the poll.

[trainer6]

EXCERPT:

Perhaps it might amuse some and appall others to discover that he is an Obama supporter.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10363336-71.html


My Opinion:

I suspected this all along, and I believe it is in keeping with everything else we've been seeing and hearing from the left Congress and this regime, most recently from Pelosi and earlier from the DHS. Sadly, all of this falls in line with my belief that the scene is being set for what I deem the unthinkable.

I'm one of those who is appalled, and I don't think posting that poll was merely folly.

ETA: I thought it was important to let everyone know and the other thread, accusing the Right, was closed.

I said all along it was probably a young person.

This is just another example of the left trolling their sewer sources and then repeating it without any thought as to whether it makes sense or not. It will most likely turn out the same for the death of the census worker.

The only thing consistent with the far left is their propensity for getting it wrong.

[trainer6]

More importantly, will the originator of the thread and the link provided (huffnpuff) ever update the story or apologize for starting a thread that was intended to begin the derogatory comments?

Exactly, but don't hold your breath. They usually just run with the main talking point, never really understanding the underlying issues.

[trainer6]

That reminds me.....yooohooo.....theal3......what say you NOW after all those insulting posts on that thread about "the uncalled for and disgusting hate from the Right"???

Wow. Embarrassing.

:blushing:

This is exactly why these biased sites put out this garbage. They know their intended audience will run with it. It is a pattern that will continue as long as there are people who care more about the letter behind the name than any actual substance.

[Dustee]

republicans had the final say, nothing passed without their approval

How did republicans have the "final say", when there were just as many Ds as Rs voting Yea? It wouldn't have passed without Democratic approval either. Seems pretty equal across the board IMO.

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

I said all along it was probably a young person.

This is just another example of the left trolling their sewer sources and then repeating it without any thought as to whether it makes sense or not. It will most likely turn out the same for the death of the census worker.

The only thing consistent with the far left is their propensity for getting it wrong.

Quite, not to mention the hate and the calling for hate against the right--- when they had nary a thing to do with it. Again their assumptions are atrocious and it goes to show when one has an agenda-- they will use any means possible to crush their opponents and someone they see as a threat-- look at what they did to HRC during the election and Joe the “non plumber” (who asked a question) as soon as that question was asked we knew and it embarrassed Obama—we knew within 24 hours he owned back taxes and did not possess a license so there for he could not be a plumber... the lists go on..

[CANDYKISSES]

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=359022

I think some of you should revisit what you posted re: the radical, hateful, racist, right, just a few short days ago.


Shameful, IMO

Oh, I think the political threads from a year ago tell a story and it's anything but a fairytale build up IMO. :blushing:for them.

[Hey Paula]

I said all along it was probably a young person.

This is just another example of the left trolling their sewer sources and then repeating it without any thought as to whether it makes sense or not. It will most likely turn out the same for the death of the census worker.

The only thing consistent with the far left is their propensity for getting it wrong.

These people have forfeited credibility in my eyes. They've even vandalized, causing property damage, to have it appear theirs was the work of the RW. I wouldn't be surprised if a young person wasn't behind it at all. The SS was investigating this and if an adult were truly behind it, that person might fear prosecution that perhaps a younger person wouldn't be subject to. I wonder if the same consideration would have been shown if this person wasn't a BO supporter? I think it might have been taken more seriously.

IMO

[MercedesV]

Exactly, but don't hold your breath. They usually just run with the main talking point, never really understanding the underlying issues.

I understand quite well thank you. And if you looked before you posted you will see I did a further update. You're welcome.

[Hey Paula]

Quite, not to mention the hate and the calling for hate against the right--- when they had nary a thing to do with it. Again their assumptions are atrocious and it goes to show when one has an agenda-- they will use any means possible to crush their opponents and someone they see as a threat-- look at what they did to HRC during the election and Joe the “non plumber” (who asked a question) as soon as that question was asked we knew and it embarrassed Obama—we knew within 24 hours he owned back taxes and did not possess a license so there for he could not be a plumber... the lists go on..

Those who employ such tactics are ruthless and vindictive.

IMO

[MiamiNice1]

This is exactly why these biased sites put out this garbage. They know their intended audience will run with it. It is a pattern that will continue as long as there are people who care more about the letter behind the name than any actual substance.
Yes, those biased sites know their audience - have them pegged to a "T." They keep getting the intended results, over and over. Why mess with something that works? :sneaky:

I don't understand blindly running before knowing the facts and then insulting and attacking with the most vicious rhetoric as on that thread. Shameful and very embarrassing, imo.

IMO

[Justice4all]

EXCERPT:

Perhaps it might amuse some and appall others to discover that he is an Obama supporter.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10363336-71.html


My Opinion:

I suspected this all along, and I believe it is in keeping with everything else we've been seeing and hearing from the left Congress and this regime, most recently from Pelosi and earlier from the DHS. Sadly, all of this falls in line with my belief that the scene is being set for what I deem the unthinkable.

I'm one of those who is appalled, and I don't think posting that poll was merely folly.

ETA: I thought it was important to let everyone know and the other thread, accusing the Right, was closed.

Reminds me of the McCain worker that Lied About Being Mugged By Obama Supporter and said they cut the B in her face.

[Barbara2]

Reminds me of the McCain worker that Lied About Being Mugged By Obama Supporter and said they cut the B in her face.

I don't think that anyone is suggesting that all the nutcases are limited to one political party. (I take that back. A FEW like to think that it is only one side.) The point that was made is that so many were willing to make assumptions and vilify Republicans because of this poll that was put up. There may have been those who wanted to vilify Democrats when the mugging was reported and turned out to be a hoax. I just remember most questioning the claims from the beginning. IMO

[MercedesV]

One thing to remember, the developer, was a third party to this whole thing. He was/is an Obama supporter. He did not start the poll. It has been disclosed that a kid started the poll. No information, other than he is a kid and not going to be charged has been released. Nor are his parents. We have no idea what ideology if any he has, or his parents have.

They could very well be Republicans, or not. They could be Democrats, or not. We don't know. Let's not confuse the kid with the developer.

Just what would lead a kid to start a poll like that?

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

One thing to remember, the developer, was a third party to this whole thing. He was/is an Obama supporter. He did not start the poll. It has been disclosed that a kid started the poll. No information, other than he is a kid and not going to be charged has been released. Nor are his parents. We have no idea what ideology if any he has, or his parents have.

They could very well be Republicans, or not. They could be Democrats, or not. We don't know. Let's not confuse the kid with the developer.

Just what would lead a kid to start a poll like that?

They keep saying "kid" -- when I think of kid I think of someone up to the age of 12. You’re a kid until then, after that you are a teenager n my mind.

Your thought process IMO allowed for more assumptions that this "kid" was someone indoctrinated by his parents.

Anything could have motivated him,

A dare

Attention

Publicity

Stupidity

Someone in school

Since he obviously has internet access something he read online

Dislike for authority figures of any sort

Girlfriend or boyfriend

A friend

His parents.

Etcetera
Etcetera
Etcetera

The list can go on and on. First everyone assumed this was a right-winger-- let’s stop the assumptions and write it up to the stupidity kids exhibit at times, unless we find out more that is.

[momof6]

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=359022

I think some of you should revisit what you posted re: the radical, hateful, racist, right, just a few short days ago.


Shameful, IMO

I revisited this and forgot how hateful some of the comments were towards the right.

[Lady_Jean_La]

I don't think that anyone is suggesting that all the nutcases are limited to one political party. (I take that back. A FEW like to think that it is only one side.) The point that was made is that so many were willing to make assumptions and vilify Republicans because of this poll that was put up. There may have been those who wanted to vilify Democrats when the mugging was reported and turned out to be a hoax. I just remember most questioning the claims from the beginning. IMO

There are more than enough whackos to go around. imo

[Lady_Jean_La]

I revisited this and forgot how hateful some of the comments were towards the right.
Once was enough for me.

[Lady_Jean_La]

One thing to remember, the developer, was a third party to this whole thing. He was/is an Obama supporter. He did not start the poll. It has been disclosed that a kid started the poll. No information, other than he is a kid and not going to be charged has been released. Nor are his parents. We have no idea what ideology if any he has, or his parents have.

They could very well be Republicans, or not. They could be Democrats, or not. We don't know. Let's not confuse the kid with the developer.

Just what would lead a kid to start a poll like that?

A thirst for knowledge. imo

[anthos1]

I revisited this and forgot how hateful some of the comments were towards the right.

Really? Well, you know the old saying, don't you???

You Reap What You Sow.

You just might want to read their posts towards the left next. :wink:

[LisaM22]

How did republicans have the "final say", when there were just as many Ds as Rs voting Yea? It wouldn't have passed without Democratic approval either. Seems pretty equal across the board IMO.

Bush did not have to sign the law, thus republicans had the final say

[LisaM22]

One thing to remember, the developer, was a third party to this whole thing. He was/is an Obama supporter. He did not start the poll. It has been disclosed that a kid started the poll. No information, other than he is a kid and not going to be charged has been released. Nor are his parents. We have no idea what ideology if any he has, or his parents have.

They could very well be Republicans, or not. They could be Democrats, or not. We don't know. Let's not confuse the kid with the developer.

Just what would lead a kid to start a poll like that?

exactly, sounds like republicans jumped the gun and accused Obama supporters of setting this up, we do not know who the kid was, if he supported Obama or not (doesn't sound like it), but the secret service has investigated and declared this child and his family not to be a risk to the president, they do not have the results to the poll as it was disabled and removed - unless they can find out who, if any voted yes, then nothing more can be done - one thing we should all be able to agree on is that the poll was in bad taste

[Dustee]

exactly, sounds like republicans jumped the gun and accused Obama supporters of setting this up, <snipped>


And the democrats jumped the gun and accused the Right Wing of setting it up... Is one any better or wrose than the other?

[LisaM22]

And the democrats jumped the gun and accused the Right Wing of setting it up... Is one any better or wrose than the other?

I have only ever cared about those that voted "yes", but I admit i did jump the gun on that, as there is no evidence anyone voted yes

[Lady_Jean_La]

I have only ever cared about those that voted "yes", but I admit i did jump the gun on that, as there is no evidence anyone voted yes

I wonder how many here would vote yes? But we will never know. imo

[orangetaffy]

"The Secret Service announced today that a juvenile was behind the Facebook posting that asked whether President Obama should be assassinated, calling it a prank that would not lead to prosecution.

The agency declined to release the juvenile's name, age or residence."

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2009/10/68500154/1

[LisaM22]

Duh. I said ths was a hoax, from the very begining.:rolleyes:

the poll was a hoax, i just wish they had the data on who really voted yes or no, voting yes is not a joking matter

[LisaM22]

Duh. I said ths was a hoax, from the very begining.:rolleyes:

the child that created the poll created it as a hoax, i just wish they had the data on who voted yes or no