Tuesday, 9/29/09

[newsjunkie]

I read somewhere today it is 11 miles from her house (or maybe from Tony's house... I'm not a detail person lol). Don't know if that's true or not but...

I am trying to stay in lurk mode but you guys are cracking me up tonight! :laugh:

[Postergeist]

June 16, 2008 phone calls and texts:

<snipped>


12:53pm Casey calls Tony (having just left the house to go to work per George)
12:55pm Tony texts Casey
1:00pm Tony calls Casey (call about 14 minutes) 1:00-1:14, 12 min. later
1:26pm Casey texts Jesse 12 min. later
1:37pm Casey gets text from Jesse
1:44pm Casey calls Amy 36 minutes 1:44-2:20, 32 min. later
2:52pm Casey gets call from Jesse 11 minutes 2:52-3:03
3:03pm Casey calls George
3:04pm Casey gets call from George. 25 seconds.
Casey and Caylee return to the house then 31 min. later
3:35pm Casey calls Tony 22 seconds 35 min. later
4:10pm Casey calls Cindy at work
4:11pm Casey calls Cindy cell
4:13pm Casey calls Cindy cell again
4:14pm Casey calls George 98 seconds 4:14—4:16
4:18pm Casey texts Tony (pings now appear to be travelling away from Anthony home)



4:25pm Casey calls Cindy cell 3 seconds (now pinging near Tony's apt)
6:31pm Casey calls Cindy
6:32pm Casey calls Cindy
6:33pm Casey calls home leaves voicemail
7:06pm Casey calls home



8:00pm-ish Casey and Tony are on tape, seen at video rental place
.
June 16 Cindy returns home from work and finds the pool ladder is attached to the pool and the fence gate is open.
.
June 16 Per Amy H official statement, Casey spent: June 16 thru July 4 with Tony Lazzaro

http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2009/06/casey-anthony-timeline-revised-june-1.html


thanks for this n2n- snipped it some, looking at this all laid out like that-is she texting while driving? Quite perilous actions to do with precious cargo and a danger to others. (Cindy has stated what a conscientious and thoughtful young woman her daughter is)

So the call she makes to her Dad 2 hrs. after leaving for 'work' is what everyone has been saying- her chance to sneak back in the home?

What I bolded is what I question- I'm not sold that Caylee ever entered back into that home on the 16th as a living breathing child to hang out with her mom for a 2 hour span before they are on the road again.

[MiamiNice1]

Close enough to ping from the same towers. Can't remember who that poster was now.
MomofaMarine googled earlier today and found that it was 14.27 miles from the Anthony home on Hopespring to the Casselberry Walmart.

[MiamiNice1]

TY all for reposting the info, and it makes me glad to know that others were questioning this whole door scenario then.

But like I posted earlier- if this guy's legit- still has Casey as last seen w/Caylee and NO nanny caught on film anywhere and no one spotted her out with them either.
You know, in the older Walmarts (one of the posters earlier who was familiar with the Casselberry Walmart said it was old), they have this weird, square-like, lower door in the middle of the huge entrance automatic doors.

When younger, my kids loved to open it (manual only) and go through it - could it have been for the carts?! Could this be what the Thompson guy was talking about? :shrug:

[Postergeist]

Ain't that the truth? :huh:

But ... at least that guy was trying to remember dates a full year later. The Anthony family couldn't remember the last date they saw Caylee just a month after her disappearance. :rolleyes:

ah ha- yanno Imp that we do have both parents IRRC, stating that Casey always kept a change of clothing for herself (not just for Caylee) in her vehicle, so that could explain the quick change artistry of the Amazing Casey to have George say she is in work garb and Mr. Thompson's description in what seems to be along the lines of a Hooters uniform.

However, it's Cindy claiming she washes pants/slacks and no mention of hot pants, or cheeky shorts.

imo

[newsjunkie]

thanks for this n2n- snipped it some, looking at this all laid out like that-is she texting while driving? Quite perilous actions to do with precious cargo and a danger to others. (Cindy has stated what a conscientious and thoughtful young woman her daughter is)

So the call she makes to her Dad 2 hrs. after leaving for 'work' is what everyone has been saying- her chance to sneak back in the home?

What I bolded is what I question- I'm not sold that Caylee ever entered back into that home on the 16th as a living breathing child to hang out with her mom for a 2 hour span before they are on the road again.


ITA...............I still think of George remembering what they wore when the left the house a month before. I can't remember what I wore yesterday!!!!
That George is so totally AMAZING!!:rolleyes:

[summer]

ah ha- yanno Imp that we do have both parents IRRC, stating that Casey always kept a change of clothing for herself (not just for Caylee) in her vehicle, so that could explain the quick change artistry of the Amazing Casey to have George say she is in work garb and Mr. Thompson's description in what seems to be along the lines of a Hooters uniform.

However, it's Cindy claiming she washes pants/slacks and no mention of hot pants, or cheeky shorts.

imo

You think the GrandmotherOTY would cop to the MOTY owning hot pants? Heaven forfend! (clutching pearls)

[need2no]

thanks for this n2n- snipped it some, looking at this all laid out like that-is she texting while driving? Quite perilous actions to do with precious cargo and a danger to others. (Cindy has stated what a conscientious and thoughtful young woman her daughter is)

So the call she makes to her Dad 2 hrs. after leaving for 'work' is what everyone has been saying- her chance to sneak back in the home?

What I bolded is what I question- I'm not sold that Caylee ever entered back into that home on the 16th as a living breathing child to hang out with her mom for a 2 hour span before they are on the road again.

YW, I found it helpful to review this list while thinking about the Walmart info we read about today.

Yes, that's the way I see it...making sure the coast was clear. She already knew Cindy was at work.

I also question that Postie, and I'm not sure why the author of that list included Caylee, as far as I know there are no witnesses to casey returning to the home, much less Caylee and casey.

[summer]

You know, in the older Walmarts (one of the posters earlier who was familiar with the Casselberry Walmart said it was old), they have this weird, square-like, lower door in the middle of the huge entrance automatic doors.

When younger, my kids loved to open it (manual only) and go through it - could it have been for the carts?! Could this be what the Thompson guy was talking about? :shrug:

Makes sense to me. I don't think we have Walmarts in my part of the world so I've never been to one but it sounds reasonable they'd have a separate manual door for carts. All I know is I'm sticking by this guy. Hey computer guy, I'm in your corner!

[KTBarTheDoor]

Yep, as you can see from n2n's excellent accounting just upthread a bit, Casey didn't head toward Tony L's place until after 4pm on the 16th, she was pinging the Anthony towers up to that point.

Yes and the longest time period with no phone calls or texts was between 1:44 till 2:52.. very interesting. then again not until after 4: 25 until 6:31 but imo she would not have waited until that time cause cindy would be home soon. My guess is Caylee was murdered between that time..If The computer guy is right and it was the 16th when he seen them.. george said he seen them that day,, But I have a hard time believing anything From the anthonys mouths.. my opinion

[Postergeist]

You know, in the older Walmarts (one of the posters earlier who was familiar with the Casselberry Walmart said it was old), they have this weird, square-like, lower door in the middle of the huge entrance automatic doors.

When younger, my kids loved to open it (manual only) and go through it - could it have been for the carts?! Could this be what the Thompson guy was talking about? :shrug:

Ah TY MiamiNice, good to know that our posters were being productive today and mapping out the distance (from your previous post) :smile:

And yes, my closest Target has that little half door thing for the carts, and yes, some of the smaller Walmarts had them too, but don't think that is what Mr. T is talking about since he wrote

big Walmart door so I am excluding that.

[Postergeist]

ITA...............I still think of George remembering what they wore when the left the house a month before. I can't remember what I wore yesterday!!!!
That George is so totally AMAZING!!:rolleyes:

Why newsjunkie, they ALL are quite AMAZING, uber ultra amazing, and that would even filter down to their amazing PIs, their amazing attorneys, their amazing BFFs with the boat. It is all just rather amazing, isn't it?

:wink:

[need2no]

Yes and the longest time period with no phone calls or texts was between 1:44 till 2:52.. very interesting.. My guess is Caylee was murdered between that time..If The computer guy is right and it was the 16th when he seen them.. george said he seen them that day,, But I have a hard time believing anything From the anthonys mouths.. my opinion


Your opinion is shared by many. :biggrin:

[MiamiNice1]

June 16, 2008 phone calls and texts:
8:46am Casey calls Tony (pings start at Anthony house.)
11:47am Tony calls Casey
12:53pm Casey calls Tony (having just left the house to go to work per George)
12:55pm Tony texts Casey
1:00pm Tony calls Casey (call about 14 minutes) 1:00-1:14, 12 min. later
1:26pm Casey texts Jesse 12 min. later
1:37pm Casey gets text from Jesse
1:44pm Casey calls Amy 36 minutes 1:44-2:20, 32 min. later
2:52pm Casey gets call from Jesse 11 minutes 2:52-3:03
3:03pm Casey calls George
3:04pm Casey gets call from George. 25 seconds.
Casey and Caylee return to the house then 31 min. later
3:35pm Casey calls Tony 22 seconds 35 min. later
4:10pm Casey calls Cindy at work
4:11pm Casey calls Cindy cell
4:13pm Casey calls Cindy cell again
4:14pm Casey calls George 98 seconds 4:14—4:16
4:18pm Casey texts Tony (pings now appear to be travelling away from Anthony home)
4:19pm Casey gets text from Tony
4:19pm Casey calls Tony
4:21pm Casey calls Jesse twice; second call 75 seconds 4:21—4:23
4:25pm Casey calls Cindy cell 3 seconds (now pinging near Tony's apt)
6:31pm Casey calls Cindy
6:32pm Casey calls Cindy
6:33pm Casey calls home leaves voicemail
7:06pm Casey calls home
7:20pm Casey calls Amy
7:21pm Casey calls Amy 42 seconds
8:03pm Casey checks Voice Mail
8:03pm Casey gets text from Mark Hawkins.
10:45pm Casey gets text from Amy
11:17pm Casey gets text from Mark Hawkins.


8:00pm-ish Casey and Tony are on tape, seen at video rental place
.
June 16 Cindy returns home from work and finds the pool ladder is attached to the pool and the fence gate is open.
.
June 16 Per Amy H official statement, Casey spent: June 16 thru July 4 with Tony Lazzaro

http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2009/06/casey-anthony-timeline-revised-june-1.html

Zowie! Thanks for this, need! The only time I see possible for Casey to have harmed Caylee is between the (BBM) red times of 4:25pm and 6:31pm. Basically a 2 hour window.

BUT, if she harmed Caylee, why the flurry of phone calls after that 2 hour time window? Maybe checking to see if anyone was home to be able to shower/change for her date with Tony?

imo

[newsjunkie]

Why newsjunkie, they ALL are quite AMAZING, uber ultra amazing, and that would even filter down to their amazing PIs, their amazing attorneys, their amazing BFFs with the boat. It is all just rather amazing, isn't it?

:wink:


And the most AMAZING ONE of all .......... CASEY!!!

[MiamiNice1]

Ah TY MiamiNice, good to know that our posters were being productive today and mapping out the distance (from your previous post) :smile:

And yes, my closest Target has that little half door thing for the carts, and yes, some of the smaller Walmarts had them too, but don't think that is what Mr. T is talking about since he wrote

big Walmart door so I am excluding that.
That's good enough for me, Postie. Thanks for the explanation. :)

And let me tell you - I NEVER would have allowed the kids to handle that door when they were 2.5yo! It was only at 6-8yo did they do that.....and I would be there on the other side waiting!!

[need2no]

Zowie! Thanks for this, need! The only time I see possible for Casey to have harmed Caylee is between the (BBM) red times of 4:25pm and 6:31pm. Basically a 2 hour window.

BUT, if she harmed Caylee, why the flurry of phone calls after that 2 hour time window? Maybe checking to see if anyone was home to be able to shower/change for her date with Tony?

imo



Do you recall what time Cindy said she usually got home from work?

Couldn't casey have put the duct tape on Caylee and left her in the trunk while she went out with Tony? :crying:

[MiamiNice1]

And the most AMAZING ONE of all .......... CASEY!!!
The CEO....Chairman of the Board! :glare:

[KTBarTheDoor]

Yeah, but the pings don't lie, so I think Thompson has his dates wrong.

I was looking at those times n2n provided, too, and as distracted as Casey had to have been with her cell phone, I can easily see how Caylee might've been neglected to death. When it finally occurred to Casey to check on her, she was gone, by whatever means. But ... that theory makes Caylee's death an accident, which I really no longer can buy. So whatever Casey did to Caylee on the afternoon of June 16th, she made pretty short work of it. I guess it doesn't take end the life of a 2 year-old.

No IMO it probably wouldn't....

[Postergeist]

The change of clothes in the car still doesn't explain how she was pinging from the wrong cell towers to have been in the area of that WalMart when Thompson said she was, though. She didn't come into that WalMart area until 4:30pm-ish on the 16th. Thompson said he saw her and Caylee around lunchtime. So even if he took a late lunch, 4:30pm-ish is no one's idea of "around lunchtime."

Follow me?

yep, I will take what the technology says over people's memories, no matter how "gorgeous and beautiful" the father's recollection of his amazing daughter is, or the guy smitten by the looks of Casey either.

Thompson did say lunchtime, and IMO that is usually 11-2 for business people. LE has pretty much pegged Casey down with her movements with receipts, store video, and pings.

However, the defense and her parents can't be happy with Thompson's first impression of Casey being jealous of her daughter, that's got to grind their grits to hear that. imo

[summer]

Do you recall what time Cindy said she usually got home from work?

Couldn't casey have put the duct tape on Caylee and left her in the trunk while she went out with Tony? :crying:

That's always been in the back of my mind, that exact scenario. :crying:

[MiamiNice1]

Do you recall what time Cindy said she usually got home from work?

Couldn't casey have put the duct tape on Caylee and left her in the trunk while she went out with Tony? :crying:
Not sure, but I want to say Cindy left at 5:00pm and she would cellphone Casey and (interrogate) ask her about her day.

While a definite possibility, I don't even want to imagine your last sentence. I cannot. :crying:

[newsjunkie]

Those docs wiped me out! G'nite folks :seeya:

[MiamiNice1]

Makes sense to me. I don't think we have Walmarts in my part of the world so I've never been to one but it sounds reasonable they'd have a separate manual door for carts. All I know is I'm sticking by this guy. Hey computer guy, I'm in your corner!
I'm still in his corner, too. I do hope there is even more verification......

[summer]

yep, I will take what the technology says over people's memories, no matter how "gorgeous and beautiful" the father's recollection of his amazing daughter is, or the guy smitten by the looks of Casey either.

Thompson did say lunchtime, and IMO that is usually 11-2 for business people. LE has pretty much pegged Casey down with her movements with receipts, store video, and pings.

However, the defense and her parents can't be happy with Thompson's first impression of Casey being jealous of her daughter, that's got to grind their grits to hear that. imo

I just can't believe Cindy didn't crumple inside just a little bit when she read this report, hearing about how Caylee trailed behind, struggling with all her might to open the door. Breaks our hearts and we didn't even know her. How can Cindy not break down and cry when she reads something like that? Sigh.

[need2no]

Not sure, but I want to say Cindy left at 5:00pm and she would cellphone Casey and (interrogate) ask her about her day.

While a definite possibility, I don't even want to imagine your last sentence. I cannot. :crying:

IIRC, Cindy's schedule varied a bit. Some days she went in earlier than others, but off the top of my head I can't recall the days or times. Gawd help me if I have to listen to her LE interviews again. :scared:

I know...it is soooooo heartbreaking to even go there.:crying:

[MiamiNice1]

yep, I will take what the technology says over people's memories, no matter how "gorgeous and beautiful" the father's recollection of his amazing daughter is, or the guy smitten by the looks of Casey either.

Thompson did say lunchtime, and IMO that is usually 11-2 for business people. LE has pretty much pegged Casey down with her movements with receipts, store video, and pings.

However, the defense and her parents can't be happy with Thompson's first impression of Casey being jealous of her daughter, that's got to grind their grits to hear that. imo
There HAS to be more to the Thompson story for him to testify. As you say (good point), LE seems to have a pretty good tracking of Casey on that day and I have to imagine they wouldn't put Thompson on as a witness if his story didn't "jive" with what they had confirmed.

The "silhouette" news today has to have them in a meltdown!! Can you imagine picturing your granddaughter like that? Devastating - even for the Anthony's.
imo

[summer]

IIRC, Cindy's schedule varied a bit. Some days she went in earlier than others, but off the top of my head I can't recall the days or times. Gawd help me if I have to listen to her LE interviews again. :scared:

I know...it is soooooo heartbreaking to even go there.:crying:

Step away from the interviews, hun! :w00t:

[klock777]

Anyone notice this picture DC sent of ZG he found - look what she is wearing...is this the same one Casey had on in the no clothes party???

Page 29 http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0929/21146565.pdf

[need2no]

Step away from the interviews, hun! :w00t:

Really, maybe I can find a transcript and save the last of my sanity.

[Postergeist]

That's good enough for me, Postie. Thanks for the explanation. :)

And let me tell you - I NEVER would have allowed the kids to handle that door when they were 2.5yo! It was only at 6-8yo did they do that.....and I would be there on the other side waiting!!

BBM

:crying: omg, this has made me tear up all over again today...reading the LE reports and then knowing that little Caylee didn't have someone to always be right there, on the other side, poor dear baby.

I have heard Cindy say numerous times about unconditional love for her grown child Casey, and yet....I don't recall that ever being said for the not quite 3 year old Caylee Marie Anthony. Where was her unconditional love?

The heart sticker?

The laundry bag?

The trash bags?

The "here comes trouble" t-shirt?

The Winnie the Pooh blanket?

The 'hopefully she's with a loving family that's taking care of her'?

The 'CMA'?

<sob>

imo

[Sun]

yep, I will take what the technology says over people's memories, no matter how "gorgeous and beautiful" the father's recollection of his amazing daughter is, or the guy smitten by the looks of Casey either.

Thompson did say lunchtime, and IMO that is usually 11-2 for business people. LE has pretty much pegged Casey down with her movements with receipts, store video, and pings.

However, the defense and her parents can't be happy with Thompson's first impression of Casey being jealous of her daughter, that's got to grind their grits to hear that. imo

I'm going to re-read Thompson's hand-written statement in the morning, however my initial impression of it was that he was sounding fairly credible. Something that we rarely have seen in this case. However, his June 16th date does conflict with Casey's cell phone pings. I'd be interested to see if he is absolutely sure of that date, or if it was just a guess to the best of his recollection.

I also am wondering how come LE didn't get a recorded interview, or if they did, why hasn't it been released to the defense yet (thus getting released to us)? Does the State feel that his statement is the truth, or even helpful? Especially since the June 16th date appears to conflict with Casey's cell phone pings.

[MiamiNice1]

But if she did the deed after 4:25pm, she didn't do it at the Anthony home. She was on the move a little after 4pm, heading from the Anthony home to Tony's apartment.
OK, with the 1:44pm-2:52 window.

My problem is with the 1:44pm-2:20pm call to Amy. Casey calls Amy for 32minutes 1:44-2:20

Casey spoke to Amy 32 minutes until 2:20pm....so either like you mention - by neglect, something happened to Caylee while Casey was on the phone with Amy for 32 minutes.....OR it happened in the 2:20 - 2:52 time until the call from Jesse (that would be 32 minutes to harm Caylee).

Hmmm.

[need2no]

I'm going to re-read Thompson's hand-written statement in the morning, however my initial impression of it was that he was sounding fairly credible. Something that we rarely have seen in this case. However, his June 16th date does conflict with Casey's cell phone pings. I'd be interested to see if he is absolutely sure of that date, or if it was just a guess to the best of his recollection.

I also am wondering how come LE didn't get a recorded interview, or if they did, why hasn't it been released to the defense yet (thus getting released to us)? Does the State feel that his statement is the truth, or even helpful? Especially since the June 16th date appears to conflict with Casey's cell phone pings.

BBM

I'm going to have to assume they believe him and have some proof, since he is a witness for the State.

[need2no]

MN1 -- I was thinking about this earlier. Maybe Thompson ended up being a wash out. Just because he's on the witness list doesn't mean he WILL be called, right? Just that he COULD BE called to testify at the trial. I think. I've been putting a lot of stock in the fact he's on the witness list, but maybe LE has already dismissed him as a reliable witness?

I hope not, but I suppose it's possible. :shrug:

But, but, but....would they bother to put him on the list prior to checking out his story. Wasn't he just recently added to the witness list?

[Postergeist]

Those docs wiped me out! G'nite folks :seeya:

me too newsjunkie, and I didn't even get thru a majority of what was released today. With all the doc dumps that have been released over the past year, I just can't find any that just screams "stellar family" but it does seem to show LE trying to do the most thorough job they can, people willing to take LDT's, and it screams for justice for the littlest victim who was silenced and discarded so long ago.

I'm heading out as well, enjoyed all the discussions everyone.

nite!

[summer]

No time to break down. She has to email Dom with the guy's name and have him try to dig up dirt on the man. :mad:

Bet computer guy's second cousin on his mother's side once bought cigarettes for a minor... or worse... beer!

You're right, Impf. What was I thinking. (banging head on desk)

[MiamiNice1]

BBM

:crying: omg, this has made me tear up all over again today...reading the LE reports and then knowing that little Caylee didn't have someone to always be right there, on the other side, poor dear baby.

I have heard Cindy say numerous times about unconditional love for her grown child Casey, and yet....I don't recall that ever being said for the not quite 3 year old Caylee Marie Anthony. Where was her unconditional love?

The heart sticker?

The laundry bag?

The trash bags?

The "here comes trouble" t-shirt?

The Winnie the Pooh blanket?

The 'hopefully she's with a loving family that's taking care of her'?

The 'CMA'?

<sob>

imo

I think Impurrfect nails them purrfectly. Uber Narcissism.

I don't think Cindy knows the meaning of the words "unconditional love." And the only reason it "appears" she has it now for Casey....well, back to the "narcissism" - it's all about CINDY and appearances.

UGH!

imo

Good night to all heading out! :wub:

[summer]

32 minutes to end her life, and hide her little body. It's possible, I guess. It's just hard to contemplate. :crying:

If what we speculated upthread is true then it could've taken all of a minute to ensure death would occur while mom was at the video store.

Well I've made myself sufficiently sick just writing that so... night all...

[MiamiNice1]

32 minutes to end her life, and hide her little body. It's possible, I guess. It's just hard to contemplate. :crying:

It really, really is. But, I know stranger and worse things have happened. :(

[need2no]

me too newsjunkie, and I didn't even get thru a majority of what was released today. With all the doc dumps that have been released over the past year, I just can't find any that just screams "stellar family" but it does seem to show LE trying to do the most thorough job they can, people willing to take LDT's, and it screams for justice for the littlest victim who was silenced and discarded so long ago.

I'm heading out as well, enjoyed all the discussions everyone.

nite!

:seeya: Night Postie

Maybe we will get more docs tomorrow.

[MiamiNice1]

No time to break down. She has to email Dom with the guy's name and have him try to dig up dirt on the man. :mad:
My exact thoughts as I was driving this afternoon, Imp. They must be in full blown CRISIS INVESTIGATIVE MODE.

imo

[Irestmycase]

I just can't believe Cindy didn't crumple inside just a little bit when she read this report, hearing about how Caylee trailed behind, struggling with all her might to open the door. Breaks our hearts and we didn't even know her. How can Cindy not break down and cry when she reads something like that? Sigh.

Well according to many posters here, they don't believe Cindy ever loved or cared about Caylee. (which I have always totally disagreed with)
So Cindy breaking down and crying doesn't go along with most of the posters theory.

[jammies]

Well according to many posters here, they don't believe Cindy ever loved or cared about Caylee. (which I have always totally disagreed with)
So Cindy breaking down and crying doesn't go along with most of the posters theory.


I believe Cindy loved Caylee. But when it became clear to her that Casey murdered her she switched gears. I don't think she can come to terms that Caylee is really GONE judging by the emails on the doc dump.
Cindy's biggest fear is that SHE screwed up. IMO

[need2no]

I was just wondering if there will be more docs released tomorrow...it just hit me I didn't see any tattoo pics in the docs.

[spiritwolf46]

I believe Cindy loved Caylee. But when it became clear to her that Casey murdered her she switched gears. I don't think she can come to terms that Caylee is really GONE judging by the emails on the doc dump.
Cindy's biggest fear is that SHE screwed up. IMO

GREAT POST! I totally agree.

Now, it is all about damage control, throwing her grand child under the bus to save her murderer daughter. SAD! :angry:

[need2no]

I consider that a blessing. :laugh:

Here's Hal's blog on the doc drop today. Don't miss the comments! http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-new-documents-reveal-cindys-strange-quest.html

Me too Imp, but when I thought about not seeing her tat pics I thought maybe there is also a lot of other stuff we will get tomorrow.

Thanks for the link...heading over to read.

[ResJudicata]

Well according to many posters here, they don't believe Cindy ever loved or cared about Caylee. (which I have always totally disagreed with)
So Cindy breaking down and crying doesn't go along with most of the posters theory.


Thats true. I agree with you.

[jammies]

GREAT POST! I totally agree.

Now, it is all about damage control, throwing her grand child under the bus to save her murderer daughter. SAD! :angry:


My question to Cindy would be: If Casey gets off do you want her living with you?

[Pruddennce]

soooooo, what we got here is:

Dominic Casey found a ton of ZG's and ZG's mom, et al...

(who hasnt)

and?

investigation? every single one?

and?

I dont seem to recall LE being advised that a layperson found the right ZG or her mother or her sister.

I think what has happened in this case: everyone connected with the Anthonys has forgotten that Casey Anthony picks up names from here there and everywhere to form a 'story'....

heck, she conjured up a heart attack for her father.

so what exactly did the PI do to EXCLUDE EVERY SINGLE ZG's family tree and friends?

because they certainly did not 'go after' the kidnapper ZG, her mother, her friends, her sister, her uncle, etc etc......all who had valid addresses, easily found, according to their list (wow, LE missed all of that?????).....

again, the burning question: AND?

then I noticed the investigation fell by the wayside and the newly annointed Lee and his mom and that 'other person' began a smear/accuse and destroy mission...

all because they couldnt pin it on any ZG's/family/friends that Casey conjured up thru various connections.....

the only puzzle is: WHEN DID CASEY MURDER CAYLEE AND WHEN DID SHE DUMP HER BODY.

forget the why....not a mystery: Cindy is the annointed one in that equation, IMO. evil. psychopathic....its neck and neck with Casey and Cindy....FIRST JAILHOUSE CALL. <--dont need to be a mental health professional to figure that one out.

that is the first indication that something was seriously wrong with the both of them.....it was disturbing...and now we know HOW dangerous they are. a murderer, coverup and evil plotting.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[seeing_eye]

soooooo, what we got here is:

Dominic Casey found a ton of ZG's and ZG's mom, et al...

(who hasnt)

and?

investigation? every single one?

and?

I dont seem to recall LE being advised that a layperson found the right ZG or her mother or her sister.

I think what has happened in this case: everyone connected with the Anthonys has forgotten that Casey Anthony picks up names from here there and everywhere to form a 'story'....

heck, she conjured up a heart attack for her father.

so what exactly did the PI do to EXCLUDE EVERY SINGLE ZG's family tree and friends?

because they certainly did not 'go after' the kidnapper ZG, her mother, her friends, her sister, her uncle, etc etc......all who had valid addresses, easily found, according to their list (wow, LE missed all of that?????).....

again, the burning question: AND?

then I noticed the investigation fell by the wayside and the newly annointed Lee and his mom and that 'other person' began a smear/accuse and destroy mission...

all because they couldnt pin it on any ZG's/family/friends that Casey conjured up thru various connections.....

the only puzzle is: WHEN DID CASEY MURDER CAYLEE AND WHEN DID SHE DUMP HER BODY.

forget the why....not a mystery: Cindy is the annointed one in that equation, IMO. evil. psychopathic....its neck and neck with Casey and Cindy....FIRST JAILHOUSE CALL. <--dont need to be a mental health professional to figure that one out.

that is the first indication that something was seriously wrong with the both of them.....it was disturbing...and now we know HOW dangerous they are. a murderer, coverup and evil plotting.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

BBM

We already knew how evil Casey is, but the docs released today shows in a very clear way how evil Cindy is, and to a lesser degree, how evil those are who are her helpers and co-conspirators. That has even surprised me to find out the depth of their depravity.

[Pruddennce]

IIRC George said it was like a "basketball" stain.

right. page 23

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036330/2008-0724-Police-Interview-George-Anthony

and GA actually tells investigators he uttered and/or thought to himself 'please dont let this be my Caylee'.

now why would he have thoughts of Caylee being dead in the trunk?

....devil in the details. wish LE would have asked him WHY he would think for one second it might be Caylee? simply because they had not seen her? but they are in constant contact with Casey and in fact, as of July 3rd, they both knew she was local. so why would he think that?

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[onlykaty]

soooooo, what we got here is:

Dominic Casey found a ton of ZG's and ZG's mom, et al...

(who hasnt)

and?

investigation? every single one?

and?

I dont seem to recall LE being advised that a layperson found the right ZG or her mother or her sister.

I think what has happened in this case: everyone connected with the Anthonys has forgotten that Casey Anthony picks up names from here there and everywhere to form a 'story'....

heck, she conjured up a heart attack for her father.

so what exactly did the PI do to EXCLUDE EVERY SINGLE ZG's family tree and friends?

because they certainly did not 'go after' the kidnapper ZG, her mother, her friends, her sister, her uncle, etc etc......all who had valid addresses, easily found, according to their list (wow, LE missed all of that?????).....

again, the burning question: AND?

then I noticed the investigation fell by the wayside and the newly annointed Lee and his mom and that 'other person' began a smear/accuse and destroy mission...

all because they couldnt pin it on any ZG's/family/friends that Casey conjured up thru various connections.....

the only puzzle is: WHEN DID CASEY MURDER CAYLEE AND WHEN DID SHE DUMP HER BODY.

forget the why....not a mystery: Cindy is the annointed one in that equation, IMO. evil. psychopathic....its neck and neck with Casey and Cindy....FIRST JAILHOUSE CALL. <--dont need to be a mental health professional to figure that one out.

that is the first indication that something was seriously wrong with the both of them.....it was disturbing...and now we know HOW dangerous they are. a murderer, coverup and evil plotting.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*


Excellent Post Pru!!!

[KTBarTheDoor]

Just had a thought.. They are saying there's an outline of a small child in a fetal position in the trunk.. Couldn't the FBI or one of the LE's take the measurements from Caylee's bones and see if they are same as what Caylee would have been? Or what the inprint in trunk is

[Justice4all]

I would love to know why in the world is Cindy still looking for a LIVE Caylee. Does anyone else find that odd?

[jammies]

I would love to know why in the world is Cindy still looking for a LIVE Caylee. Does anyone else find that odd?


Odd? I believe it borders on insanity.

[Justice4all]

Odd? I believe it borders on insanity.

ITA. I have to wonder if she'll get up in court and say something like she still believes Caylees alive.

I've never seen a case this strange in my life.

[seeing_eye]

I would love to know why in the world is Cindy still looking for a LIVE Caylee. Does anyone else find that odd?

Quite some time ago I found a cached page of Cayleesplace.com http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:3Tirjzdw4gcJ:www.cayleesplace.com/+cayleesplace.com&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us which appeared to be a page of theories of what might have happened to Caylee. This phrase on it I found to be quite interesting: "Cadavers stolen, height of child based on bones, foot size, old injuries to long bones, tests from tooth which could have come from live Caylee?"

As that was written after Caylee's remains had been found, I believe the writer was insinuating that the remains were not Caylees, but were made to appear that way by persons unknown, possibly even imaginary people!

BTW, I have no idea of the identity of the owner of that site, but this might give us an idea of why Cindy was still looking for a live Caylee as late as 2 months ago. Unbelievable!!! :w00t:

[KTBarTheDoor]

I would love to know why in the world is Cindy still looking for a LIVE Caylee. Does anyone else find that odd?

Very Odd since she had Caylee cremated.. If she thought it wasnt Caylee why did she cremate her?

[seeing_eye]

Very Odd since she had Caylee cremated.. If she thought it wasnt Caylee why did she cremate her?

Maybe because she didn't want the whole world to know at that time she was still looking for a live Caylee.

Or it could be because it gave her the opportunity to have a public spectacle aired nationwide of the whole Anthony family showing support for Casey.

[myrtlebeach]

I have not, but I have a idea this was someone trying to mess with Cindy's head. Possibly trying to extort something from her with false information.


Just some interesting information I found because I found that Danielle Brofi texting interesting: There was a Nate mentioned in the Casey case and I found a myspace listing a Nate James in Oneida,New York and his top friend is a Nik Brofi (maybe related to her?)

[Justice4all]

Very Odd since she had Caylee cremated.. If she thought it wasnt Caylee why did she cremate her?

great question. If she's still looking for a live Caylee who the heck did she cremate................:confused:

[seeing_eye]

great question. If she's still looking for a live Caylee who the heck did she cremate................:confused:

I don't think she cared who she cremated as long as she had her appearance on national tv - and got to sing too!

[Zeus]

great question. If she's still looking for a live Caylee who the heck did she cremate................:confused:

Can you imagine how much trouble that woman is going to continue to cause if she's still claiming to be looking for a live Caylee. Parents of children who may look like Caylee are going to be subjected to questioning by her 'people'. I can't imagine how unsettling it would be to have someone question whether my child was actually my child. And if the child gets wind of it, how scary is it to think someone is questioning whether or not your parents are your parents.

Will the Anthonys ever leave innocent people alone or will they spend the rest of their lives trying to make everyone else miserable.

Someone should arrest that woman for being a menace to society and if she zeros in on a child she claims to think may be Caylee, she should be arrested for harassment.

[KTBarTheDoor]

great question. If she's still looking for a live Caylee who the heck did she cremate................:confused:

And why cremate if you don't believe it was you're granddaughter?
One question I'd like to Ask cindy is if you didn't believe it was Caylee then why did you cremate her.
Then second question would be, why are you wearing the Cremation Jewelry if you dont believe it's Caylee's ashes?

[onlykaty]

And why cremate if you don't believe it was you're granddaughter?
One question I'd like to Ask cindy is if you didn't believe it was Caylee then why did you cremate her.
Then second question would be, why are you wearing the Cremation Jewelry if you dont believe it's Caylee's ashes?


IMO: The A's are not even dealing with any facts any more they have made up their own reality with the lies Casey has fed them. They have put Caylee out of their original thoughts and try and pretend she is out there somewhere alive living with a loving family. GMAB: these people are all living a lie and its went so far they will never be able to handle the reality of it now. Even when Casey is convicted they will still be spinning their lies, working on appeals and hauling in the money for it. They will never imo ever spend another normal day, as you and I know it. No more family gatherings, no more special christmas's, no more memories of the good times. They all died with Caylee. C & G are to pitied really, its a shame I can't drag up any sympathy for any of them.

as always jmo.