Tuesday, 9/29/09

[TisMeAgain]

Is this board being archived? Why has the forum moved? :confused:

LOL, I have no idea! I posted and it took me forever to find my way back here. I went to try and find the banned list of members looking for rosebud. I couldn't find it, nor find my way back here. HLN talking about the case now.

[Dovey]

Is this board being archived? Why has the forum moved? :confused:

where did it move to?

[Lavinya]

Headline Prime News on CNN is leading off with the outline of a child in the trunk story.

Thanks Dove. Quite compelling.

[Lavinya]

where did it move to?

It looks like it's in position to be archived but maybe it's just a burp? :confused:

HLN is covering Caylee right now.

[Dovey]

It looks like it's in position to be archived but maybe it's just a burp? :confused:

HLN is covering Caylee right now.

It appears that Caylee's thread is not listed on the main menu anymore.

[seeing_eye]

CYA, IMO. She's got some involvement with Xanax and her friends.

I agree. It's always been my impression that Annie is hiding the information about her connection with Xanax.

[cassidy]

Ish, haha, yeah I know about the origins of Rosebud re: the film classic but in this case I think the simpler explanation applies. Just a pet name for Cindy Anthony's blog persona at the time. IMO. :smile:

But that is suggesting that Cindy Marie Anthony was, at least at one time, a Fat Lazy Blogger. Exactly the type of person she looks down her nose at now. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...could it be?

JMO

[spiritwolf46]

Headline Prime News on CNN is leading off with the outline of a child in the trunk story.

Thank you very much!

Oh my gosh! This is just so disturbing. I feel so bad for that little baby!

[cassidy]

I agree. It's always been my impression that Annie is hiding the information about her connection with Xanax.IMO Annie is hiding alot. Don't know why, just a feeling after reading her depo.

[crimeq]

Is this board being archived? Why has the forum moved? :confused:

How do I find the board in archives? Haven't done that before.
TIA

[DebinNv]

Was put to sleep and automatically curled up or was defending herself.......

OMGosh...your post just stopped me from scrolling through the posts. That thought is so horrible...MO -- LWOP is too good for Casey.

I wish she could feel the all the pain and suffering that she inflicted on Caylee.
JMO

[Pierre]

Is it 9 PM somewhere?

[Postergeist]

I can't imagine a mother as a possible suspect leaving a child in the woods, decomposing and carried off by animals. I just can't see how any grandparents would support this being done to their very own grandchild.
This totally makes me feel Casey is guilty and Caylee's grandparents are trying to cover it all up as they knew they could no longer save Caylee. From that 3rd 911 call I totally believe the Anthony's knew Caylee was gone to heaven. From the car stunch to looking in the backyard they knew that very day Caylee was gone forever.
JMO

Dovey, this has always beyond bothered me, and to think that elephants have been known to have funerals when their babies have been killed by prey. (one as recent as 2007, where 100 elephants paid their respects if you will)

(link before anyone thinks it's just IMO http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/destinations/africa/article1271944.ece)

OH wow- caller to HLN just said she thinks Cindy is the Nanny, Cindy gave the script for Casey to follow...!

imo

[KatieLady]

It appears that Caylee's thread is not listed on the main menu anymore.

Yes it is Dovey...you just have to scroll down. It has been moved down the list.

[Postergeist]

How do I find the board in archives? Haven't done that before.
TIA

Archived Caylee Forum- Closed Threads

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/forumdisplay.php?f=587

(this current forum we're on has just been bumped down the main page is all, imo)

[KatieLady]

Dovey, this has always beyond bothered me, and to think that elephants have been known to have funerals when their babies have been killed by prey. (one as recent as 2007, where 100 elephants paid their respects if you will)

(link before anyone thinks it's just IMO http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/destinations/africa/article1271944.ece)

OH wow- caller to HLN just said she thinks Cindy is the Nanny, Cindy gave the script for Casey to follow...!

imo

She better be careful...she'll end up on Cindy's list :rolleyes:

[crimeq]

Headline Prime News on CNN is leading off with the outline of a child in the trunk story.

Did they highlight the child's outline to make it easier to see? If so, where was the imprint positioned in the trunk? That dark arc to the left?

[MiamiNice1]

HLN - Quoting Kiomarie Cruz about how she and Casey would dispose of their hamsters - in the area Caylee was found - they would put it in a zip lock bag and then a paper bag and they would draw 5 or 6 hearts on the paper bags as a sign of love.....

So Kiomarie said it is too much of a coincidence - the place, the bag and the heart.


Wow. :ohmy:

[spiritwolf46]

Dovey, this has always beyond bothered me, and to think that elephants have been known to have funerals when their babies have been killed by prey. (one as recent as 2007, where 100 elephants paid their respects if you will)

(link before anyone thinks it's just IMO http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/destinations/africa/article1271944.ece)

OH wow- caller to HLN just said she thinks Cindy is the Nanny, Cindy gave the script for Casey to follow...!

imo

Bold mine:

I have thought about this over and over again in my own mind, too. That is why they are standing up for their daughter and said she is Mother of the YEAR! But, I just do not see that. As much as I dislike Cindy, I just could not see her doing this and think that Casey would NEVER take the fall for her mother!

[Anakerie]

It appears that Caylee's thread is not listed on the main menu anymore.
It is still on the main list.. You just have to scroll down a bit to where it is now among some of the other older cases.

[crimeq]

Dovey, this has always beyond bothered me, and to think that elephants have been known to have funerals when their babies have been killed by prey. (one as recent as 2007, where 100 elephants paid their respects if you will)

(link before anyone thinks it's just IMO http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/destinations/africa/article1271944.ece)

OH wow- caller to HLN just said she thinks Cindy is the Nanny, Cindy gave the script for Casey to follow...!

imo

I don't know that I'd agree Cindy is the Nanny, but I've contended for a long time that Cindy wrote the script they all followed, for cover-up purposes.

[crimeq]

Archived Caylee Forum- Closed Threads

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/forumdisplay.php?f=587

(this current forum we're on has just been bumped down the main page is all, imo)

Thank you :smile:

[Postergeist]

You know, I think seeing the individual listings of the teeth in the earlier doc downloads really hit me hard. I thought I had seen "tough" ....until George and Cindy came along.

(BBM) How appropriate the verse you wrote is, Poster! It hurts to see where these grandparent's hearts are and what it says about them.

imo

Of all the imaginary things that the family seemed to invent, so sad that little Caylee didn't get to leave her baby teeth for the Tooth Fairy, rather than for them to washed down into the sludge and mud.

It just rips at me, this precious child never even got to live long enough to have the Tooth Fairy visit her, have her big girl teeth grow in.

These doc dumps just tear me up every time, when it becomes so clinical, so final of how this child met a cruel, hideous ending.

imo

[Jen]

Is it 9 PM somewhere?

ROFLMAO! Oh my god that's hillarious :laugh:

[TunaMelt]

heartwrenching :crying:

This is killing me today, this info. I can hardly think about it -- it all really got to me again, which I suppose is the point.

I am all for the DP in this case. It's got all that it takes and more to qualify for death.

KC Anthony should be put to death for this horrible murder, IMO.

:mellow:



:sad:

[Lavinya]

Is it 9 PM somewhere?

:laugh::laugh:

[Or_is_it?]

Dovey, this has always beyond bothered me, and to think that elephants have been known to have funerals when their babies have been killed by prey. (one as recent as 2007, where 100 elephants paid their respects if you will)

(link before anyone thinks it's just IMO http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/travel/destinations/africa/article1271944.ece)

OH wow- caller to HLN just said she thinks Cindy is the Nanny, Cindy gave the script for Casey to follow...!

imo

How's Cindy like the view under that bus?

[Postergeist]

HLN - Quoting Kiomarie Cruz about how she and Casey would dispose of their hamsters - in the area Caylee was found - they would put it in a zip lock bag and then a paper bag and they would draw 5 or 6 hearts on the paper bags as a sign of love.....

So Kiomarie said it is too much of a coincidence - the place, the bag and the heart.


Wow. :ohmy:


Thanks for posting that, as I didn't catch it at the beginning. Well- that is something that a stranger couldn't know, unless Casey blogged about it, or texted it to all her friends over the years.

Very significant, imo.

I guess the defense and supporters of Casey can say see, that shows it was a loving goodbye gesture and the disposal was one of love and care. :mad:

[TunaMelt]

I don't know that I'd agree Cindy is the Nanny, but I've contended for a long time that Cindy wrote the script they all followed, for cover-up purposes.

I admit it did cross my mind, last year, this time. That Cindy was the nanny.
And then I thought Lee did it.
Finally, I decided George probably did it.

I mean, they're all so malevolent in their sociopathic ways.

Anyhow then I finally came to my senses and figured that KC did it, and the rest of her Addams Family did the cover up, and that's what I believe to be true.

But yes, it crossed my mind, about Cindy. She's not a good woman, and my bet is she wasn't all that good to Caylee. How could she have been?

She doesn't know how to love anyone other than herself.:thumbdown:

[martha]

I agree. It's always been my impression that Annie is hiding the information about her connection with Xanax.ITA with you on that I think she is hiding some things too. I have not read the doc.but from what all of you or saying I am just sick.Caylee did not deserve to die like this. Just keep praying for justice for Caylee. jmho:wub:

[MiamiNice1]

Of all the imaginary things that the family seemed to invent, so sad that little Caylee didn't get to leave her baby teeth for the Tooth Fairy, rather than for them to washed down into the sludge and mud.

It just rips at me, this precious child never even got to live long enough to have the Tooth Fairy visit her, have her big girl teeth grow in.

These doc dumps just tear me up every time, when it becomes so clinical, so final of how this child met a cruel, hideous ending.

imo

You're right. They had so many happy moments to treasure and look forward to - now it is just unbearable heartache. I just want them to be as "angry and upset" as we are - to see them defending the one who robbed them of their life's joy, and working hard at it, is just disgusting.

imo

[phylcore]

Hi guys,I don't think Cindy is the nanny or zanny.But I do think she is Queen of cover up.

[spiritwolf46]

Hi guys,I don't think Cindy is the nanny or zanny.But I do think she is Queen of cover up.

Good evening!

I completely agree. Well, she THINKS that she is the Queen of cover up anyway, doesn't she? :)

[Postergeist]

Bold mine:

I have thought about this over and over again in my own mind, too. That is why they are standing up for their daughter and said she is Mother of the YEAR! But, I just do not see that. As much as I dislike Cindy, I just could not see her doing this and think that Casey would NEVER take the fall for her mother!

I tend to agree with that spiritwolf, that she would not take the fall for her mother- but I've thought of different scenerios, that Casey did kill Caylee but had placed her in the back yard and then someone absconded with the body and she doesn't know WHO in the family did that, so she could say "I don't know where she is" (now) and be truthful- then there's the 'but'...both her parents looked in the backyard- an entire month after knowing that Casey and Caylee had left the premises and Caylee had never been back in the home again, nor had the toddler 'snuck' in- nor had she been seen by anyone- so WHAT made the grandparents even THINK to go looking for a toddler in their back yard, and UNDER pavers?

There may be more to the meaning behind Mrs. Anthony's statement she made when she said she feared there might be people that would "steal" her dead granddaughter's body if she were to have been buried at a cemetery. She was concerned about "grave robbers".

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, according to the Anthonys` attorney, they are considering cremating Caylee`s remains because for the sheer fact, Nancy, that they are concerned that possibly her grave, if they bury her, it could be robbed and people could go in there trying to profit from her, taking pictures of the remains or possibly digging them up and trying to sell them in some type of way.


Aired Jan. 13, 2009

[MiamiNice1]

Thanks for posting that, as I didn't catch it at the beginning. Well- that is something that a stranger couldn't know, unless Casey blogged about it, or texted it to all her friends over the years.

Very significant, imo.

I guess the defense and supporters of Casey can say see, that shows it was a loving goodbye gesture and the disposal was one of love and care. :mad:
Again - it's those "coincidences" in these type of cases that make me believe it is NO "coincidence."

Kiomarie is right - The bags (hamsters double, Caylee's triple), the place and that heart.

Don't they always say that "killers" always stick to what and where they know - what they are familiar with? Besides the actual forensics, there is SO much circumstantial evidence that simple logic cannot ignore.

imo

[Or_is_it?]

Good evening!

I completely agree. Well, she THINKS that she is the Queen of cover up anyway, doesn't she? :)

I also agree but glad she's getting a taste of her own medicine throwing persons under the bus who don't have ONE SHRED of evidence to lead her there except to try to run interferance for Casey.

[Dunlurken]

Yes it is Dovey...you just have to scroll down. It has been moved down the list.

Took me a few minutes to find it myself. :confused:

[Postergeist]

Thank you :smile:


YW- I know not everyone bookmarks the Main Page, sometimes I have to have 2 windows open to find things faster.

[Beep]

Good evening!

I completely agree. Well, she THINKS that she is the Queen of cover up anyway, doesn't she? :)

Hi.

And it still seems unbelievable that she is still pursuing a "live" Caylee as recently as July, according to these latest docs.

JMO

[spiritwolf46]

I tend to agree with that spiritwolf, that she would not take the fall for her mother- but I've thought of different scenerios, that Casey did kill Caylee but had placed her in the back yard and then someone absconded with the body and she doesn't know WHO in the family did that, so she could say "I don't know where she is" (now) and be truthful- then there's the 'but'...both her parents looked in the backyard- an entire month after knowing that Casey and Caylee had left the premises and Caylee had never been back in the home again, nor had the toddler 'snuck' in- nor had she been seen by anyone- so WHAT made the grandparents even THINK to go looking for a toddler in their back yard, and UNDER pavers?

There may be more to the meaning behind Mrs. Anthony's statement she made when she said she feared there might be people that would "steal" her dead granddaughter's body if she were to have been buried at a cemetery. She was concerned about "grave robbers".



Respectfully snipped

AWESOME thoughts, Postergeist! Very well put!

There is no doubt in my mind at all that they knew from the moment they picked up that car and Casey was found that Caylee would never be seen again. They looked for her in that yard because they full well knew what their daughter was capable of. They knew that there was death in that car and started with their place first.

I PRAY that comes back to haunt every single one of them. I think that it will.

[Postergeist]

How's Cindy like the view under that bus?

I'm just amazed that the caller was allowed to voice her take on it, and it not get deleted or edited out somehow. She is speaking for many that have felt for some time that the family is involved.

Thinking back, Casey got more perturbed when having to speak to her mom in jail, doesn't make any eye contact with her in court...it could appear that Cindy may be the one to be brought up in a bad light from the defense standpoint (over George) imo.

[Rayosunshine]

You know, if it's this hard for us to make out the image, I just don't think LE will use it.

I don't think it will be used either. To use this as evidence would be "stretching it" in my opinion. Anything could have caused it.

[BettyC]

I also agree but glad she's getting a taste of her own medicine throwing persons under the bus who don't have ONE SHRED of evidence to lead her there except to try to run interferance for Casey.

Still reading here, between chores, but this shows what kind of person she is too IMO.

Cindy said finding a connection between Kronk and Grund would be "huge." She wrote, "I want him to go down for this if he is involved. I have people that can fly under the radar and make it happen."

http://www.wftv.com/news/21146562/detail.html


Just what kind of people does she know? And what did she intend for them to do "under the radar"?

[neid_77]

I'm still having a hard time with Mr. Thompsons interview and Casey's actions that day!!:cursing: I have thought about nothing else i just cannot imagine watching Caylee sing you are my sunshine and her little clip of her with her book...and to think of her while she was with that orendous OC!!! I just cannot get it through my heart and mind how she let that little girl walk through that heavy door all by herself!! A 2YR OLD!!!!!! i can't imagine that more or less her thinking it was horrible that the man wanted to give her child a bennie doll!!!! UGHH!!! i thought it couldn't get any worse than the docs we heard about her while she was out on bond and the day she was arrested:cursing::cursing:


sorry but i had to rant about this again it really got to me today!

[Rayosunshine]

I don't think it really is a problem that the FBI messed up, if that is true. I'm sure there are multiple, multiple images of the duct tape with the heart-shaped tape residue on it.

Does anyone know if any biologic material was found on the duct tape like skin cells? I remember hearing there was hair attached to it, wonder if there were death bands present. Nothing said about those things??

[Duke]

I tend to agree with that spiritwolf, that she would not take the fall for her mother- but I've thought of different scenerios, that Casey did kill Caylee but had placed her in the back yard and then someone absconded with the body and she doesn't know WHO in the family did that, so she could say "I don't know where she is" (now) and be truthful- then there's the 'but'...both her parents looked in the backyard- an entire month after knowing that Casey and Caylee had left the premises and Caylee had never been back in the home again, nor had the toddler 'snuck' in- nor had she been seen by anyone- so WHAT made the grandparents even THINK to go looking for a toddler in their back yard, and UNDER pavers?

There may be more to the meaning behind Mrs. Anthony's statement she made when she said she feared there might be people that would "steal" her dead granddaughter's body if she were to have been buried at a cemetery. She was concerned about "grave robbers".

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, according to the Anthonys` attorney, they are considering cremating Caylee`s remains because for the sheer fact, Nancy, that they are concerned that possibly her grave, if they bury her, it could be robbed and people could go in there trying to profit from her, taking pictures of the remains or possibly digging them up and trying to sell them in some type of way.


Aired Jan. 13, 2009

Guilty people think guilty things...I guess once you become a "grave robber" you wouldn't put it past anyone else to do the same thing!

[onlykaty]

I vaguely remember something about the grave wax, but can't put my finger on it. I'm going to google Caylee/grave wax and see what comes up. I'll let you guys know if anything good does.

If desmom is here I know she will have the link. I remember reading all about it and also reading what grave wax really was. I had never heard of it before this. It definitely was in the earlier doc dumps.

[spiritwolf46]

Hi.

And it still seems unbelievable that she is still pursuing a "live" Caylee as recently as July, according to these latest docs.

JMO

Hiya, Beep.

Well, let's face it, until CINDY says the investigation is over, it aint over!

I just have never EVER seen or heard anything like this family in whole life. They have obstructed, lied, spun, all in the cover up of a murderer. I really don't care that she is their daughter, there is a way of loving your child but letting them know that what they did was against the law and they will have to pay for what they did. The Anthonys seem to have never held Casey accountable for anything she has done. I do believe, MOO, that this is why Casey is the way she is. Mommy and daddy have always covered for her.

[Postergeist]

But also makes her the killer of her own daughter ! :mad:

quite so, but maybe the defense if they drop the invisnanny theory, will say that it was an accidental death, and knowing that their client couldn't afford a legal type funeral arrangement, and knowing her parents financial situation at the time, decided to just go the old fashioned route of body disposal within the city limits.

:shrug:

imo

[TunaMelt]

Thanks for posting that, as I didn't catch it at the beginning. Well- that is something that a stranger couldn't know, unless Casey blogged about it, or texted it to all her friends over the years.

Very significant, imo.

I guess the defense and supporters of Casey can say see, that shows it was a loving goodbye gesture and the disposal was one of love and care. :mad:

Daughter -- Hamster, same thing.
:huh:

[spiritwolf46]

Still reading here, between chores, but this shows what kind of person she is too IMO.

Cindy said finding a connection between Kronk and Grund would be "huge." She wrote, "I want him to go down for this if he is involved. I have people that can fly under the radar and make it happen."

http://www.wftv.com/news/21146562/detail.html


Just what kind of people does she know? And what did she intend for them to do "under the radar"?

Oh good Lord! Well, ya never know about those "stealth peeps!" They can do anything and Cynthia seems to think that she is all hooked up with them!
:sneaky:

[jakee]

Still reading here, between chores, but this shows what kind of person she is too IMO.

Cindy said finding a connection between Kronk and Grund would be "huge." She wrote, "I want him to go down for this if he is involved. I have people that can fly under the radar and make it happen."

http://www.wftv.com/news/21146562/detail.html


Just what kind of people does she know? And what did she intend for them to do "under the radar"?

What the heck does she really mean? I at first thought she was saying to falsify stuff to frame him. But I think I may read and watch to much tv. But then maybe not.

[Sun]

I'm still having a hard time with Mr. Thompsons interview and Casey's actions that day!!:cursing: I have thought about nothing else i just cannot imagine watching Caylee sing you are my sunshine and her little clip of her with her book...and to think of her while she was with that orendous OC!!! I just cannot get it through my heart and mind how she let that little girl walk through that heavy door all by herself!! A 2YR OLD!!!!!! i can't imagine that more or less her thinking it was horrible that the man wanted to give her child a bennie doll!!!! UGHH!!! i thought it couldn't get any worse than the docs we heard about her while she was out on bond and the day she was arrested:cursing::cursing:


sorry but i had to rant about this again it really got to me today!

I'm not fully convinced that what this fellow says is the truth. It could be, but possibly off on the dates. Casey's cell phone pings don't put her in that area on the day after Father's Day. Possibly in the week prior to that date though.

[Justme2]

Yes, and what was stated about him shocked me. I've got to go back and try to read that line by line.


He said he has raped kids and killed Trenton Duckett. That guy is a LOON!!!

[Duke]

I would love to be a bug on the wall watching the Anthony’s spin all these doc dumps. She probably has her highlighter out marking anything that sounds remotely good. One good thought of mine is that she is probably just getting madder and madder and she reads. George is probably loosing his mind as I type.

[summer]

Oh good Lord! Well, ya never know about those "stealth peeps!" They can do anything and Cynthia seems to think that she is all hooked up with them!
:sneaky:

Cindy Anthony's foot soldiers. :rolleyes:

[Dunlurken]

still reading here, between chores, but this shows what kind of person she is too imo.

cindy said finding a connection between kronk and grund would be "huge." she wrote, "i want him to go down for this if he is involved. i have people that can fly under the radar and make it happen."

http://www.wftv.com/news/21146562/detail.html


just what kind of people does she know? And what did she intend for them to do "under the radar"?
thud! .......

[TunaMelt]

He said he has raped kids and killed Trenton Duckett. That guy is a LOON!!!

He said that in a chat way back when, someone got in there and asked him these "questions" about missing and exploited children, particularly Trenton Duckett, and he goes off and says these wild and horrible things, including "yeah, I did it" (killed the child) {paraphrased} -- it was nuts.

He's nuts.

He's not going to like this doc dump, IMO.

[Rayosunshine]

If desmom is here I know she will have the link. I remember reading all about it and also reading what grave wax really was. I had never heard of it before this. It definitely was in the earlier doc dumps.

Thanks so much. I did find reference to it.

[seeing_eye]

I don't know that I'd agree Cindy is the Nanny, but I've contended for a long time that Cindy wrote the script they all followed, for cover-up purposes.

I do believe Cindy is the nanny, Crime. Cindy herself stated that the "nanny" was whoever was watching Caylee, sort of like a generic term for babysitter. And I also believe that Cindy (and maybe George sometimes) actually watched Caylee 99% of the time although they sometimes deny that fact (but state it as fact at other times).

I'm not sure about who wrote the so-called "script." I'm inclined to think it was Casey with Cindy's help or possibly Cindy with Casey's help. JMO

[TunaMelt]

From D. Casey to Baez, dated 10/1/08:

"Jose,

Pursuant to our Notice of September 25, 2008, please consider this email as Notice that D&A Investigations, Inc. have withdrawn from providing services to The Baez Law Firm, effective immediately. During yesterday's meeting at your office, two (2) options became apparent; 1) continue on in the relationship with an endorsement from The Baez Law Firm, or; 2) agree to just shake hands as gentlemen and end our relationship amicably. Option two (2) is our choice. We have enjoyed working with you on this case and wish you all the very best moving forward.

Kindest regards,
Dominic"

page 20: http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0929/21146692.pdf

So how does D. Casey figure he was still working for Baez per his testimony in front of Judge Rodriguez?

My guess is he, um, mis-spoke.
:sneaky:

[Duke]

I also agree but glad she's getting a taste of her own medicine throwing persons under the bus who don't have ONE SHRED of evidence to lead her there except to try to run interferance for Casey.

Cindy reminds me of the movie when the bus can't stop with all the people in it trying to save their lives. The only difference is that I vision Cindy in the driver’s seat running all over everyone else to save her "mother of the year" daughter.:cursing:

[BettyC]

He said that in a chat way back when, someone got in there and asked him these "questions" about missing and exploited children, particularly Trenton Duckett, and he goes off and says these wild and horrible things, including "yeah, I did it" (killed the child) {paraphrased} -- it was nuts.

He's nuts.

He's not going to like this doc dump, IMO.

Who was that TunaMelt?

[Rayosunshine]

thud! .......

Dunnie you're funnie. My first laugh today.

[Or_is_it?]

I tend to agree with that spiritwolf, that she would not take the fall for her mother- but I've thought of different scenerios, that Casey did kill Caylee but had placed her in the back yard and then someone absconded with the body and she doesn't know WHO in the family did that, so she could say "I don't know where she is" (now) and be truthful- then there's the 'but'...both her parents looked in the backyard- an entire month after knowing that Casey and Caylee had left the premises and Caylee had never been back in the home again, nor had the toddler 'snuck' in- nor had she been seen by anyone- so WHAT made the grandparents even THINK to go looking for a toddler in their back yard, and UNDER pavers?

There may be more to the meaning behind Mrs. Anthony's statement she made when she said she feared there might be people that would "steal" her dead granddaughter's body if she were to have been buried at a cemetery. She was concerned about "grave robbers".

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, according to the Anthonys` attorney, they are considering cremating Caylee`s remains because for the sheer fact, Nancy, that they are concerned that possibly her grave, if they bury her, it could be robbed and people could go in there trying to profit from her, taking pictures of the remains or possibly digging them up and trying to sell them in some type of way.


Aired Jan. 13, 2009


They only grave robbers that may have been on her mind would possibly be LE with a warrant for exhumation should something unfold in the future.

[TunaMelt]

I do believe Cindy is the nanny, Crime. Cindy herself stated that the "nanny" was whoever was watching Caylee, sort of like a generic term for babysitter. And I also believe that Cindy (and maybe George sometimes) actually watched Caylee 99% of the time although they sometimes deny that fact (but state it as fact at other times).

I'm not sure about who wrote the so-called "script." I'm inclined to think it was Casey with Cindy's help or possibly Cindy with Casey's help. JMO

Wow.

Now that's a bombshell post.

Hmm.

Why would Cindy want to kill her -- supposing? What do you think?

[Pam1569]

quite so, but maybe the defense if they drop the invisnanny theory, will say that it was an accidental death, and knowing that their client couldn't afford a legal type funeral arrangement, and knowing her parents financial situation at the time, decided to just go the old fashioned route of body disposal within the city limits.

:shrug:

imo

Hi Postergeist :seeya:

I don't think that they could drop the invisi-nanny thing. With so many live interviews that the defense and the parents have done with the fact that there was such a person has just backed themselves in the corner and now imo they are grasping at straws in order to pull themselves out of the corner. But it is not going to work at all. There is still so much evidence out there still that we have yet to see, but I think the defense has. I do believe that we will hear all at the trial and her sentencing. jmo

[TunaMelt]

Who was that TunaMelt?

Murt.

(William Murtaugh)

[Beep]

I'm just amazed that the caller was allowed to voice her take on it, and it not get deleted or edited out somehow. She is speaking for many that have felt for some time that the family is involved.

Thinking back, Casey got more perturbed when having to speak to her mom in jail, doesn't make any eye contact with her in court...it could appear that Cindy may be the one to be brought up in a bad light from the defense standpoint (over George) imo.

I totally agree! Also, from what I have read in the docs today; and it's just a portion, George doesn't even rate a mention. It looks like he IS totally out of the loop in the Anthony family. It's all about Cindy and Dom and their efforts to involve ANYBODY else.
JMO

[BettyC]

Murt.

(William Murtaugh)

Ah ok, I've been trying to gloss over the weirdo part of this. But then it's ALL weird.

Thank you.

[neid_77]

http://www.wesh.com/news/21145778/detail.html


BRAD CONWAY SAYS INFORMATION RAISE QUESTIONS


Brad is releasing information the state should have today...read article someone help me here! he said it's evidence the defense has given to the prosecution, HOW DID BRAD GET THAT BEFORE THE STATE?

[Roux]

From D. Casey to Baez, dated 10/1/08:

"Jose,

Pursuant to our Notice of September 25, 2008, please consider this email as Notice that D&A Investigations, Inc. have withdrawn from providing services to The Baez Law Firm, effective immediately. During yesterday's meeting at your office, two (2) options became apparent; 1) continue on in the relationship with an endorsement from The Baez Law Firm, or; 2) agree to just shake hands as gentlemen and end our relationship amicably. Option two (2) is our choice. We have enjoyed working with you on this case and wish you all the very best moving forward.

Kindest regards,
Dominic"

page 20: http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0929/21146692.pdf

So how does D. Casey figure he was still working for Baez per his testimony in front of Judge Rodriguez?

Didn't DC and that woman atty of his realize all these docs would come out? Too bad Judge R doesn't feel the outrage that we do. Couldn't schedule anything before Jan '10 - gimme a break!

[TunaMelt]

Hi Postergeist :seeya:

I don't think that they could drop the invisi-nanny thing. With so many live interviews that the defense and the parents have done with the fact that there was such a person has just backed themselves in the corner and now imo they are grasping at straws in order to pull themselves out of the corner. But it is not going to work at all. There is still so much evidence out there still that we have yet to see, but I think the defense has. I do believe that we will hear all at the trial and her sentencing. jmo

I don't think they can drop the Nanny -- she's their Big Problem. Casey created her and she can't be done away with -- without unravelling everything in her story.

She doesn't stand a chance with all her lies, but take the Nanny story away -- she's got absolutely nothing at all. Less than what she has now.

KC dug her own grave with the Nanny Lie. It's the defense's nightmare lie. And she did it to herself, which has a certain poetic justice feeling to it.

[jammies]

This is killing me today, this info. I can hardly think about it -- it all really got to me again, which I suppose is the point.

I am all for the DP in this case. It's got all that it takes and more to qualify for death.

KC Anthony should be put to death for this horrible murder, IMO.

:mellow:



:sad:


Me too, Tuna. Today is when all the horror of this came crashing down for me. I could hold it at arms length before today. :crying:

[Lavinya]

My guess is he, um, mis-spoke.
:sneaky:

:laugh:

Something like that, lol.

[Roux]

Murt.

(William Murtaugh)

:blushing: I enjoyed Murt's field trip to BP. I didn't know he was nuts.

[onlykaty]

I'll be totally honest here some of the documents in the dumps aren't clear to me if its a good or bad thing in the prosecution of Casey. This much I do know, the facts that cannot be disputed, such as, a mother not reporting her child missing, clubbing, tattoo's about living the beautiful life, no job, no nanny to be found, decompositon in trunk of car, lying to family and friends, reporting to them all the fun Caylee was having with nanny, no concern at all for Caylee while having good fun with b/f. Not one word of truth came out of Casey's mouth in order to help find Caylee. I honestly don't see any defense for any of these things, not all of them put together. BTW: I'm not buying the ugly coping thing and can't imagine a jury buying into it either.

All the spinning and denying the defense and the parents do will not be able make any of these things disappear. Facts are just that and there is enough of them already to convict imo, the rest is just icing on the cake or the DP.

I would bet the farm, Casey is going down, its only matter of time..


as always jmo

[jammies]

I admit it did cross my mind, last year, this time. That Cindy was the nanny.
And then I thought Lee did it.
Finally, I decided George probably did it.

I mean, they're all so malevolent in their sociopathic ways.

Anyhow then I finally came to my senses and figured that KC did it, and the rest of her Addams Family did the cover up, and that's what I believe to be true.

But yes, it crossed my mind, about Cindy. She's not a good woman, and my bet is she wasn't all that good to Caylee. How could she have been?

She doesn't know how to love anyone other than herself.:thumbdown:


Tuna, I am really enjoying your posts today. You are right on in your assessment.

[TunaMelt]

Ah ok, I've been trying to gloss over the weirdo part of this. But then it's ALL weird.

Thank you.

YW.
And you're absolutely right.
Anything involving him is bound to be weird.

:wink:

[Postergeist]

Guilty people think guilty things...I guess once you become a "grave robber" you wouldn't put it past anyone else to do the same thing!

Duke, did you get a chance to read the pdf files of the email exchanges of Cindy and DC Casey (among others)?

I was just floored to read the emails with Mrs. Anthony talking of specific people and wondering if they had sacrificied Caylee in some sort of religious ritual?! wth?! :scared:

Who's mind, what 50+ year old female would even think to go there with that thought? All the while we (the public/media) heard to search for a LIVE Caylee, no ground searches for a dead Caylee and yet- her mind goes to ritualistic sacrificial slaughter of her own granddaughter?

I believe I recall her going public with statements of 'having faith' 'having hope'....(and for those that know the Bible, blood sacrifices were done away with, as they all originally were representing the Lamb prior, and then the Lamb came and did away with all of that).

To go that far out of the universe with thinking that specific people could do such a thing, but never, ever think the possibility of her daughter having a fit of rage and killing her, that just goes beyond the beyond, imo.

[Duke]

Cindy's quote: ""i want him to go down for this if he is involved. i have people that can fly under the radar and make it happen." Who are her people. George Mr. ex cop who through his dad threw a window? I thought I remember reading that a long time ago so if not so I apologize to that statement. Is it Mr. Casey the private investigator who is NOT working for the defense according to Cindy? Is it her son Lee who is trying to be a PI? Who is it Cindy that is going to take everyone one down along your bus tour of Florida?:confused:

[summer]

http://www.wesh.com/news/21145778/detail.html


BRAD CONWAY SAYS INFORMATION RAISE QUESTIONS


Brad is releasing information the state should have today...read article someone help me here! he said it's evidence the defense has given to the prosecution, HOW DID BRAD GET THAT BEFORE THE STATE?

I'm not surprised at anything Brad Conway does. IMO he's always been as corrupt as Baez. Right from the beginning of this case I think he's been acting like total sleaze. I'm an equal opportunity viewer and wheelchair or no wheelchair the guy is just no good. Only difference IMO is Baez hasn't been rumored to be going after public office... yet.

[Beep]

Hiya, Beep.

Well, let's face it, until CINDY says the investigation is over, it aint over!

I just have never EVER seen or heard anything like this family in whole life. They have obstructed, lied, spun, all in the cover up of a murderer. I really don't care that she is their daughter, there is a way of loving your child but letting them know that what they did was against the law and they will have to pay for what they did. The Anthonys seem to have never held Casey accountable for anything she has done. I do believe, MOO, that this is why Casey is the way she is. Mommy and daddy have always covered for her.

I completely agree! Thank you for noticing me:smile: I try to think that maybe I am too judgmental and might act the same way if either of my children were involved in a crime but , you know, I wouldn't. And my kids know it!
JMO

[Pam1569]

http://www.wesh.com/news/21145778/detail.html


BRAD CONWAY SAYS INFORMATION RAISE QUESTIONS


Brad is releasing information the state should have today...read article someone help me here! he said it's evidence the defense has given to the prosecution, HOW DID BRAD GET THAT BEFORE THE STATE?

Hi neid :seeya:

BC is in with Baez really tight. They probably discussed things before they turned it over.

[Sun]

From D. Casey to Baez, dated 10/1/08:

"Jose,

Pursuant to our Notice of September 25, 2008, please consider this email as Notice that D&A Investigations, Inc. have withdrawn from providing services to The Baez Law Firm, effective immediately. During yesterday's meeting at your office, two (2) options became apparent; 1) continue on in the relationship with an endorsement from The Baez Law Firm, or; 2) agree to just shake hands as gentlemen and end our relationship amicably. Option two (2) is our choice. We have enjoyed working with you on this case and wish you all the very best moving forward.

Kindest regards,
Dominic"

page 20: http://www.clickorlando.com/download/2009/0929/21146692.pdf

So how does D. Casey figure he was still working for Baez per his testimony in front of Judge Rodriguez?

He lied to Judge Rodriguez. Flat out lied.

[TunaMelt]

Tuna, I am really enjoying your posts today. You are right on in your assessment.

well, jammies, I always enjoy reading yours, and thank you. I'm so bummed today after this doc dump I'm in bad shape, but I figure if I stick around here with the rest of you, and talk about it, I'll be able to hang in there.

It's so sad, though, isn't it?
:crying:

but thanks jammies, it's nice of you to take the time to say that,
:seeya:

[Dunlurken]

I'll be totally honest here some of the documents in the dumps aren't clear to me if its a good or bad thing in the prosecution of Casey. This much I do know, the facts that cannot be disputed, such as, a mother not reporting her child missing, clubbing, tattoo's about living the beautiful life, no job, no nanny to be found, decompositon in trunk of car, lying to family and friends, reporting to them all the fun Caylee was having with nanny, no concern at all for Caylee while having good fun with b/f. Not one word of truth came out of Casey's mouth in order to help find Caylee. I honestly don't see any defense for any of these things, not all of them put together. BTW: I'm not buying the ugly coping thing and can't imagine a jury buying into it either.

All the spinning and denying the defense and the parents do will not be able make any of these things disappear. Facts are just that and there is enough of them already to convict imo, the rest is just icing on the cake or the DP.

I would bet the farm, Casey is going down, its only matter of time..


as always jmoWell said! All the defense attornies in the world can try and defend Casey, but the evidence is overwhelming. However, I have to add this so defense doesn't say an unbiased juror can't be found. I could be unbiased. We are going to have a big problem with seating a jury. Maybe I feel that way because I know all the evidence (or a lot of it). The average person does not. JMO.

[Lavinya]

:blushing: I enjoyed Murt's field trip to BP. I didn't know he was nuts.

I enjoyed his field trips AND knew he was nuts, lol. Really, when all of the field trips were going on and he had murtwitnessone there was all kinds of stuff online about his involvement with Trenton Duckett. Then when he had the hackers on his site, it just got really, really wild.

[BettyC]

He lied to Judge Rodriguez. Flat out lied.

and the next question is, what will Judge Rodriguez do about it?

[ish]

I would love to be a bug on the wall watching the Anthony’s spin all these doc dumps. She probably has her highlighter out marking anything that sounds remotely good. One good thought of mine is that she is probably just getting madder and madder and she reads. George is probably loosing his mind as I type.

my bold

George has been banished to the sun porch with Tillie and Tinker. Cindy will let him out when it's time. Till then he just stays there.

Emails must be flying between dgator and cindymant.

[summer]

I totally agree! Also, from what I have read in the docs today; and it's just a portion, George doesn't even rate a mention. It looks like he IS totally out of the loop in the Anthony family. It's all about Cindy and Dom and their efforts to involve ANYBODY else.
JMO

Absolutely Beep! You hit the nail on the head. :smile:

[TunaMelt]

Hi neid :seeya:

BC is in with Baez really tight. They probably discussed things before they turned it over.

I had a feeling that Baez would want to retaliate in some way after today.

And like before, he does it through Brad Conway.


Try try again Jose.
But it's a wasted effort.
On me, anyhow.
:huh:

[neid_77]

Hi neid :seeya:

BC is in with Baez really tight. They probably discussed things before they turned it over.

Hi Pam!!!:smile:

why didn't mr biazz release this then..what right does Brad Conway have to release this information shouldn't it be biaazz and Co.? why does he have any say so about these matters when he does not REPRSENT CASEY ANTHONY? i am very confused about this HELP!!!

[Beep]

I thought the same, Beep.

Thanks, Impurrfect, for responding! And, I guess that brings us back to George, YET AGAIN! Do you think he was appraised of ANYTHING after Casey's last bond out?

JMO

[summer]

my bold

George has been banished to the sun porch with Tillie and Tinker. Cindy will let him out when it's time. Till then he just stays there.

Emails must be flying between dgator and cindymant.

They have no one to comfort but themselves Ish. :crying:

[BettyC]

my bold

George has been banished to the sun porch with Tillie and Tinker. Cindy will let him out when it's time. Till then he just stays there.

Emails must be flying between dgator and cindymant.

Oh I'll bet they think this "bombshell" by Brad Conway will override all this info that's being released today.

The defense will definitely go after the testing, as they should, but that will happen in court. They can't make this info go away.

[summer]

Thanks, Impurrfect, for responding! And, I guess that brings us back to George, YET AGAIN! Do you think he was appraised of ANYTHING after Casey's last bond out?

JMO

Beep, I think he knows what he's force fed. And he practices with his flash cards nightly.

[TunaMelt]

and the next question is, what will Judge Rodriguez do about it?

:rolleyes:

...wait until the hearing in January, after which he'll "ponder" on it.

He gets under my skin in a bad way, Rodriguez.

[Dunlurken]

Oh I'll bet they think this "bombshell" by Brad Conway will override all this info that's being released today.

The defense will definitely go after the testing, as they should but that will happen in court. They can't make this info go away.This could very well be a precedent setting case. JMO.

[Sun]

http://www.wesh.com/news/21145778/detail.html


BRAD CONWAY SAYS INFORMATION RAISE QUESTIONS


Brad is releasing information the state should have today...read article someone help me here! he said it's evidence the defense has given to the prosecution, HOW DID BRAD GET THAT BEFORE THE STATE?

Reading between the lines here.... sounds like Cindy is very, very angry. Wants to show that she is in control! :cursing: :cursing:

[spiritwolf46]

Cindy's quote: ""i want him to go down for this if he is involved. i have people that can fly under the radar and make it happen." Who are her people. George Mr. ex cop who through his dad threw a window? I thought I remember reading that a long time ago so if not so I apologize to that statement. Is it Mr. Casey the private investigator who is NOT working for the defense according to Cindy? Is it her son Lee who is trying to be a PI? Who is it Cindy that is going to take everyone one down along your bus tour of Florida?:confused:

Apparently it is the New and Improved Stealth A-Team!

Isn't that just about nuts? I cannot believe that woman! I cannot WAIT for the trial and I PRAY that she is asked about "her people!"

[TunaMelt]

Thanks, Impurrfect, for responding! And, I guess that brings us back to George, YET AGAIN! Do you think he was appraised of ANYTHING after Casey's last bond out?

JMO

I honestly think George Anthony knows and knew WAY more than he let on. But he can cover it up easily because he's a person who has told mistruths for most of his life, too.

His role is to look like the Silver Fox that he thinks he is :rolleyes: and make that Gumby mouth, roll his eyes, and act indignant, get a little misty, lie like a rug, and behave himself and not soil Cindy's carpeting.

He's good at being dumb. It comes easily to him.

Too easily, I think.
Sort of like it's his natural way to be.
:wink:
:sneaky:

[Duke]

Duke, did you get a chance to read the pdf files of the email exchanges of Cindy and DC Casey (among others)?

I was just floored to read the emails with Mrs. Anthony talking of specific people and wondering if they had sacrificied Caylee in some sort of religious ritual?! wth?! :scared:

Who's mind, what 50+ year old female would even think to go there with that thought? All the while we (the public/media) heard to search for a LIVE Caylee, no ground searches for a dead Caylee and yet- her mind goes to ritualistic sacrificial slaughter of her own granddaughter?

I believe I recall her going public with statements of 'having faith' 'having hope'....(and for those that know the Bible, blood sacrifices were done away with, as they all originally were representing the Lamb prior, and then the Lamb came and did away with all of that).

To go that far out of the universe with thinking that specific people could do such a thing, but never, ever think the possibility of her daughter having a fit of rage and killing her, that just goes beyond the beyond, imo.


OMG and yes I did:scared:. DC and Cindy were on a roll from day one with their mind just plum going bonkers and thinking WAY out of the box. And yes, I did enjoy the song and dance from them. I think the jury will eat them up!

[Beep]

http://www.wesh.com/news/21145778/detail.html


BRAD CONWAY SAYS INFORMATION RAISE QUESTIONS


Brad is releasing information the state should have today...read article someone help me here! he said it's evidence the defense has given to the prosecution, HOW DID BRAD GET THAT BEFORE THE STATE?

I would guess that the "public/media" did not request this info? Help me out here.

JMO

[Pam1569]

Hi Pam!!!:smile:

why didn't mr biazz release this then..what right does Brad Conway have to release this information shouldn't it be biaazz and Co.? why does he have any say so about these matters when he does not REPRSENT CASEY ANTHONY? i am very confused about this HELP!!!

neid, Baez is leaking info through BC just like he did with clickorlando the other day about the adhesive on the duct tape for the sticker. Baez jus wants everyone to get their mind off of the things that were releasd and concentrate on what he wants us to concentrate on. Just like the jail video tape. jmo

[Beep]

Again - it's those "coincidences" in these type of cases that make me believe it is NO "coincidence."

Kiomarie is right - The bags (hamsters double, Caylee's triple), the place and that heart.

Don't they always say that "killers" always stick to what and where they know - what they are familiar with? Besides the actual forensics, there is SO much circumstantial evidence that simple logic cannot ignore.

imo

Although many have tried to descredit her, I think that the hamster burials are creepily, well, creepy.

JMO

[Duke]

http://www.wesh.com/news/21145778/detail.html


BRAD CONWAY SAYS INFORMATION RAISE QUESTIONS


Brad is releasing information the state should have today...read article someone help me here! he said it's evidence the defense has given to the prosecution, HOW DID BRAD GET THAT BEFORE THE STATE?

http://www.wesh.com/news/21145778/detail.html


BRAD CONWAY SAYS INFORMATION RAISE QUESTIONS


Brad is releasing information the state should have today...read article someone help me here! he said it's evidence the defense has given to the prosecution, HOW DID BRAD GET THAT BEFORE THE STATE?


Ugg, I am getting no sound to the video to respond. I didnt see the article either. Maybe it is all of Cindy's people???

[Postergeist]

They only grave robbers that may have been on her mind would possibly be LE with a warrant for exhumation should something unfold in the future.

well there is that, and I've often thought that it was specific to have at least 31 days go by, the less of the corpse that remains, then any trauma to the soft tissue is gone, any drugs that would be in soft tissue would be gone...COD/MOD hard to determine, transfer from the perp would be compromised or gone...and then I can still here Mrs. Anthony say to the media - "there is no evidence"

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6220718&page=1

"There is no evidence that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Caylee is dead," Cindy Anthony said.

Nov. 11, 2008



yet she does say that her daughter "had to have had help"....help with what Cindy?

CINDY ANTHONY: Casey had to have had help, no matter what you think the scenario might be. So there are people that know information.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/23/ijvm.01.html

Aired April 23, 2009

"Until I know 100 percent, I am not going to give up," Cindy Anthony said. "There's no concrete evidence. There's only circumstantial evidence."

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18013764/detail.html

Nov. 19, 2008

imo, it seems that someone was concerned about evidence, someone likely tried to hide evidence, someone may have tried to make evidence disappear...

[TunaMelt]

I would guess that the "public/media" did not request this info? Help me out here.

JMO

No.

Conway's just being a swell guy and giving us information that was withheld from us by the evil State.

He just wants to help!

Clear a few things up that we need to know!
:w00t:
In other words, he's acting as Jose's messenger...

Isn't it nice to see them working so well together?

:rolleyes:

[crimeq]

I admit it did cross my mind, last year, this time. That Cindy was the nanny.
And then I thought Lee did it.
Finally, I decided George probably did it.

I mean, they're all so malevolent in their sociopathic ways.

Anyhow then I finally came to my senses and figured that KC did it, and the rest of her Addams Family did the cover up, and that's what I believe to be true.

But yes, it crossed my mind, about Cindy. She's not a good woman, and my bet is she wasn't all that good to Caylee. How could she have been?

She doesn't know how to love anyone other than herself.:thumbdown:

I agree that Cindy couldn't have been good to Caylee. Cindy is every bit as personality disordered as Casey is. Cindy had maturity on Casey, but nothing in her heart, IMO. She loved to shower "that little girl" with gifts and clothes and dress her up, but I think Caylee was really just a "living doll" to Cindy, and Cindy often didn't want to be bothered with her care. She was NOT there for Caylee when Casey took her out of the house and was in god-knows-what limbo for 31 days. She did NOT act like a loving or caring woman, much less a grandmother to a little girl.

[Dovey]

Yes it is Dovey...you just have to scroll down. It has been moved down the list.


TY for the correction. I'll scroll on down.

[Beep]

Absolutely Beep! You hit the nail on the head. :smile:

Thank you Summer! I would request a prize as a fairly new poster, but I know this is no longer allowed!

Did you see the pic of the trunk of the car that possibly depicts Caylee's body?

JMO

[TunaMelt]

Although many have tried to descredit her, I think that the hamster burials are creepily, well, creepy.

JMO

I've always wondered how many pets they had to bury.

I mean, kids have a finite number of pets in their childhoods -usually- and you don't usually have to bury a whole lot of pets as kids -- unless
you're the kind of kid who does bad things to her pets which results in a lot of pet deaths -- and we know that a lot of killers show tendencies to torture their animals or other live creatures in their childhoods.

I could see KC torturing a little hamster. Or two or three or more little hamsters, or guinea pigs, or anything smaller than she was that she could hurt who wouldn't hurt her back.

And then she had a little baby, who she could mistreat and who couldn't hurt her back .
:huh:
KC Anthony is despicable. Beyond despicable. A monster.

[Pam1569]

No.

Conway's just being a swell guy and giving us information that was withheld from us by the evil State.

He just wants to help!

Clear a few things up that we need to know!
:w00t:
In other words, he's acting as Jose's messenger...

Isn't it nice to see them working so well together?

:rolleyes:

Hi Tuna, Conway wants no such thing to be a swell guy that is. He states he is releasing info that the State should have released today but IIRC wesh said 2 weeks ago that the defense has now recieved 10,000 pages. And this is what we just got. But Baez recieved docs last week bet this is what BC wants us to have now to distract us more. jmo

[BettyC]

I don't know that I believe this James Thompson's recollection about seeing Casey and Caylee on June 16th at Walmart, but the state did add him to the witness list in August.

I wonder if they are going to use him to challenge George's story about seeing them leave the house on the 16th?

[TunaMelt]

Hi Tuna, Conway wants no such thing to be a swell guy that is. He states he is releasing info that the State should have released today but IIRC wesh said 2 weeks ago that the defense has now recieved 10,000 pages. And this is what we just got. But Baez recieved docs last week bet this is what BC wants us to have now to distract us more. jmo

Hi Pam!
I was being sarcastic.
:wink:
I know Conway is just trying to muddy the waters with their own spin.

:seeya:

[Postergeist]

I totally agree! Also, from what I have read in the docs today; and it's just a portion, George doesn't even rate a mention. It looks like he IS totally out of the loop in the Anthony family. It's all about Cindy and Dom and their efforts to involve ANYBODY else.
JMO

thanks Beep for mentioning that- wow- it did seem like something was missing, the Thumb was missing in most of that email trash <koff> exchange. imo

and oh lawdy, about that whole Murt thing...not gonna touch that with a 29 1/2 foot posting pole. yikes!

[Beep]

Beep, I think he knows what he's force fed. And he practices with his flash cards nightly.

I do too, Summer. AFTER he feeds the dogs!

Seriously, did anyone find any emails from George Anthony in this doc dump?

JMO

[TunaMelt]

It would seem they are all one team now, neid. Baez and the rest of the defense experts, the Anthonys, their lawyers and PIs. They are all "the defense," apparently.

Exactly.

There's the dim hope (which probably works on some) that if Conway releases docs, it won't look like the defense is jumping up and trying to defend what the state released today.

It's Conways dump.
Heh. Heh.
So to speak.

But it's really Baez, through Conway. So Baez can deny that he's in no way bothered by what the state released.

Gamesmanship, and bad gamesmanship at that.
Totally transparent.

What a bunch of .... desperate losers.

:wink:

[BettyC]

I do too, Summer. AFTER he feeds the dogs!

Seriously, did anyone find any emails from George Anthony in this doc dump?

JMO

Not so far.

[onlykaty]

Well said! All the defense attornies in the world can try and defend Casey, but the evidence is overwhelming. However, I have to add this so defense doesn't say an unbiased juror can't be found. I could be unbiased. We are going to have a big problem with seating a jury. Maybe I feel that way because I know all the evidence (or a lot of it). The average person does not. JMO.

I have thought of that to, the average person who has not read alll the docs. and kept up with the case, it might not be as hard to find those people as we think. There are cases out there I have not kept up with and don't know all the particulars on, so maybe there is many who have not kept up with this one. When I first heard about this case and before I ever read all the docs here, It was evident to me that Casey knew exactly what had happened to Caylee. By the time they found the body I already felt in my heart she was guilty and as a juror would be able to find her guilty. I wouldn't haven't needed all the other things. I do think when it comes down to the DP, thats where these other things come into play more. The least imo Casey could get out of this LOP. That in itself would be justice for Caylee.


The more I read about the things Casey did while her daughter was laying dead, the more I think how cold Casey was. I was never much for the DP thing but I have changed my mind, in some cases it just seems appropriate..sad to say...:)

[Pam1569]

Hi Pam!
I was being sarcastic.
:wink:
I know Conway is just trying to muddy the waters with their own spin.

:seeya:

Hi Tuna, Sorry about that I should have said that i knew you were being sarcastic, butjust so peeved we didn't get to see Hawkins interview or the maggot or pupa evidence.

[MiamiNice1]

Although many have tried to descredit her, I think that the hamster burials are creepily, well, creepy.

JMO
Oh, I agree, Beep - creepy. I thought I would sound not very compassionate if I expressed this about the burials. :unsure:

[TunaMelt]

Hi Tuna, Sorry about that I should have said that i knew you were being sarcastic, butjust so peeved we didn't get to see Hawkins interview or the maggot or pupa evidence.

I understand completely,
and I share your frustration.
:smile:

[MiamiNice1]

TunaMelt - Your description of George has GOT to be the (funniest) BEST ever!!!

[newsjunkie]

Oh I'll bet they think this "bombshell" by Brad Conway will override all this info that's being released today.

The defense will definitely go after the testing, as they should, but that will happen in court. They can't make this info go away.


Oh my! What bombshell? Can I get a link please?

[crimeq]

snip

There may be more to the meaning behind Mrs. Anthony's statement she made when she said she feared there might be people that would "steal" her dead granddaughter's body if she were to have been buried at a cemetery. She was concerned about "grave robbers".

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/13/ng.01.html

NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, according to the Anthonys` attorney, they are considering cremating Caylee`s remains because for the sheer fact, Nancy, that they are concerned that possibly her grave, if they bury her, it could be robbed and people could go in there trying to profit from her, taking pictures of the remains or possibly digging them up and trying to sell them in some type of way.


Aired Jan. 13, 2009

All that is, is Cindi projecting. She's putting what she'd do, onto others.

[BettyC]

Odd that the sentinel is saying that the info about the possibly contaminated duct tape WAS released today...

Dozens of FBI reports and e-mails were released, documenting the vast amount of items that were inspected by the federal agency.

Documents also noted the contamination of the duct tape found wrapped around Caylee Anthony's remains.

Investigators found a female DNA profile on the duct tape that did not match Caylee Anthony, Cindy Anthony or Casey Anthony.

Investigators later found that a female lab technician who handled the tape during processing contaminated the tape with her DNA.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-casey-anthony-caylee-092909,0,3058472.story


So what's Conway complaining about?

[TunaMelt]

TunaMelt - Your description of George has GOT to be the (funniest) BEST ever!!!

:w00t:

he's one of my least favorite Anthony's.
right along with Cindy, Lee, and the OC.
But he sure does offer some rare moments of comic relief.
:wink:

[tia marie]

Sorry to be late in commenting but I just heard on the news that an outline of Caylee's body was detected in a stain in the trunk of that car. That just brought me to my knees, Caylee laying in a fetal position. Heartbreaking.

[MiamiNice1]

:w00t:

he's one of my least favorite Anthony's.
right along with Cindy, Lee, and the OC.
But he sure does offer some rare moments of comic relief.
:wink:
Your post was my first laugh of the day! Thanks :)

[MiamiNice1]

Guilty people think guilty things...I guess once you become a "grave robber" you wouldn't put it past anyone else to do the same thing!

I bolded the entire post - very wise words, Duke. Describes Cindy to a "T." IMO

[Postergeist]

It would seem they are all one team now, neid. Baez and the rest of the defense experts, the Anthonys, their lawyers and PIs. They are all "the defense," apparently.

ETA: No one on the "team" is even pretending to stand for Caylee anymore. They are ALL involved in defending her alleged murderer, right out in the open now. imo

Oh Imp, really now- you have not been paying attention- why I seem to recall every court room visit of late, Brad has his Caylee button pinned to his briefcase.

I just assumed that the dot.com button stood for Caylee, not justice for her little sweet face, but it sure represents $omething, doesn't it?

imo

:sneaky:

[newsjunkie]

I have spent 3 hrs in the docs and now hear BC said something on behalf of Biaz today.
What did he say ? I have to go soon.

[need2no]

well there is that, and I've often thought that it was specific to have at least 31 days go by, the less of the corpse that remains, then any trauma to the soft tissue is gone, any drugs that would be in soft tissue would be gone...COD/MOD hard to determine, transfer from the perp would be compromised or gone...and then I can still here Mrs. Anthony say to the media - "there is no evidence"

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6220718&page=1

"There is no evidence that proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Caylee is dead," Cindy Anthony said.

Nov. 11, 2008



yet she does say that her daughter "had to have had help"....help with what Cindy?

CINDY ANTHONY: Casey had to have had help, no matter what you think the scenario might be. So there are people that know information.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0904/23/ijvm.01.html

Aired April 23, 2009

"Until I know 100 percent, I am not going to give up," Cindy Anthony said. "There's no concrete evidence. There's only circumstantial evidence."

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18013764/detail.html

Nov. 19, 2008

imo, it seems that someone was concerned about evidence, someone likely tried to hide evidence, someone may have tried to make evidence disappear...


KING: Now, certainly, you seemed suspicious then, Cindy.

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, you know, that was less than 24 hours after the shock of my granddaughter not being where she was supposed to be and then finding out that she had been kidnapped by the babysitter.

I didn't know all the facts at that point. I had not had a chance to start putting things together and start looking at what is out there.

KING: All right.

CINDY ANTHONY: So, again, you know, when I called -- made the three 9/11 tapes, I said whatever I needed to do to get the authorities to come help me.

KING: I got you.

CINDY ANTHONY: So did I fabricate a lie at that point?

I worked on whatever I could to get them out there. So, you know, I'm not a liar. I just stretched the truth a little bit. The car wasn't where it was supposed to be so I said it was stolen because I didn't have any other reason to have the authorities come out to my house.

So that doesn't make me a liar or a murderer...

KING: Jose...

CINDY ANTHONY: ...and I don't think that makes my daughter...

KING: All right.

CINDY ANTHONY: ...a murderer, either, just because she has some mistruths.

KING: Well, we don't even know if there's a murder been.

CINDY ANTHONY: Thank you

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/31/lkl.01.html
July 31, 2008

[newsjunkie]

KING: Now, certainly, you seemed suspicious then, Cindy.

CINDY ANTHONY: Well, you know, that was less than 24 hours after the shock of my granddaughter not being where she was supposed to be and then finding out that she had been kidnapped by the babysitter.

I didn't know all the facts at that point. I had not had a chance to start putting things together and start looking at what is out there.

KING: All right.

CINDY ANTHONY: So, again, you know, when I called -- made the three 9/11 tapes, I said whatever I needed to do to get the authorities to come help me.

KING: I got you.

CINDY ANTHONY: So did I fabricate a lie at that point?

I worked on whatever I could to get them out there. So, you know, I'm not a liar. I just stretched the truth a little bit. The car wasn't where it was supposed to be so I said it was stolen because I didn't have any other reason to have the authorities come out to my house.So that doesn't make me a liar or a murderer...

KING: Jose...

CINDY ANTHONY: ...and I don't think that makes my daughter...

KING: All right.

CINDY ANTHONY: ...a murderer, either, just because she has some mistruths.

KING: Well, we don't even know if there's a murder been.

CINDY ANTHONY: Thank you

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/31/lkl.01.html
July 31, 2008


To my bolded.......How about your granddaughter is missing? That's not a good reason?

[Beep]

Oh, I agree, Beep - creepy. I thought I would sound not very compassionate if I expressed this about the burials. :unsure:

Well, it IS what it is. Thanks, MiamiNice for responding. And it IS creepy!

[crimeq]

I do believe Cindy is the nanny, Crime. Cindy herself stated that the "nanny" was whoever was watching Caylee, sort of like a generic term for babysitter. And I also believe that Cindy (and maybe George sometimes) actually watched Caylee 99% of the time although they sometimes deny that fact (but state it as fact at other times).

I'm not sure about who wrote the so-called "script." I'm inclined to think it was Casey with Cindy's help or possibly Cindy with Casey's help. JMO

How would the name "Zanny the Nanny" have come into play, then? and why would George and Cindy ask Caylee questions about what they did at Zanny's house? Apparently the name "Zanny" was heard for at least a year, year and a half, in the Anthony home before all this happened.

There's been discussion of the character in a childrens book, "Zanny the Nanny" -- maybe it was just a "cute" nanny name that got latched onto somehow?

Cindy did say she and George had Caylee most of the time when Casey didn't have her, but I think Zanny was in invention for when Casey was out with Caylee and wanted to do something with her friends, party, drink, etc.

[need2no]

I do too, Summer. AFTER he feeds the dogs!

Seriously, did anyone find any emails from George Anthony in this doc dump?

JMO

Maybe he isn't allowed to use the computer after the Nigerian scam fiasco. :wink:

[Cheri_G]

***respectfully snipped***

CINDY ANTHONY: ...and I don't think that makes my daughter...

KING: All right.

CINDY ANTHONY: ...a murderer, either, just because she has some mistruths.

KING: Well, we don't even know if there's a murder been.

CINDY ANTHONY: Thank you

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0807/31/lkl.01.html
July 31, 2008

(color by me)

Some mistruths??!! Is that really what she thinks of Casey's mountain high pile of lies?

[Beep]

I will bid you all a fine evening! Thank you for answering my posts.

I know we can't rest until we have justice for Caylee!!

[newsjunkie]

How would the name "Zanny the Nanny" have come into play, then? and why would George and Cindy ask Caylee questions about what they did at Zanny's house? Apparently the name "Zanny" was heard for at least a year, year and a half, in the Anthony home before all this happened.

There's been discussion of the character in a childrens book, "Zanny the Nanny" -- maybe it was just a "cute" nanny name that got latched onto somehow?

Cindy did say she and George had Caylee most of the time when Casey didn't have her, but I think Zanny was in invention for when Casey was out with Caylee and wanted to do something with her friends, party, drink, etc.



IMO George & Cindy never heard of Zanny until Caylee was gone . Just more lies to back up Casey!

[Sun]

I've been thinking a bit about Conway's comments. First of all, how does he know just what documents the State released this morning? Did he go down and get his own copy of ALL of those documents? Doesn't he realize that the media may not waste space/resources to show the public pages and pages of things that they doubt are of much interest to the public?

And, has anyone seen page 2 of the agreement between DCasey and George & Cindy? From what I detect, there were 3 pages to that typed agreement, but in the doc dump I've only seen pages 1 and 3 shown. Page 2 likely contains the "payment arrangement" ...and I want to see that!!!

Perhaps Conway will release that tomorrow? Yeah, right, when pigs fly.

[Pam1569]

I think if they can prove he was at WalMart that day, and so was Casey with Caylee (and I assume they've verified his story or he wouldn't be on the witness list), then they can demonstrate Casey's state of mind toward Caylee on the day it is presumed Caylee was murdered.

Hi Impurrfect :seeya:

According to the hand written statement he saw Casey and Caylee one week prior to Father's Day. ITA I am sure the LE did verify this with security tapes also or other type of documentation.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html

[need2no]

I think if they can prove he was at WalMart that day, and so was Casey with Caylee (and I assume they've verified his story or he wouldn't be on the witness list), then they can demonstrate Casey's state of mind toward Caylee on the day it is presumed Caylee was murdered.

Did you see the link I posted about him earlier today? Decent background, sounds like an ok kinda guy, not some fruitcake.

[BettyC]

IMO George & Cindy never heard of Zanny until Caylee was gone . Just more lies to back up Casey!

newsjunkie - I haven't seen anything from Conway speaking for Baez today. He did say HE was going to release some more documents that LE should have.

[newsjunkie]

... and the more they tip the seesaw, the whole gang of them, toward defending Casey, the more crystal clear it becomes to the rest of the world that not one of them is standing for Caylee. :mad:


Please someone tell me what BC dumped or a link or sumtin :ohmy:

[Sun]

Another thought. Would the Florida Sunshine Law apply to things the defense turns over to the State? I have no clue.

[newsjunkie]

newsjunkie - I haven't seen anything from Conway speaking for Baez today. He did say HE was going to release some more documents that LE should have.


Oh OK, I took from posts he was trying to distract from the doc dump.
Thanks bunches :rose:

[BettyC]

Please someone tell me what BC dumped or a link or sumtin :ohmy:

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=13518331&postcount=645


eta: but I just posted a link upthread from the sentinel that this info WAS released today.

[neid_77]

why would they give the stuff to Brad? and let him release the evidence?

[newsjunkie]

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=13518331&postcount=645


eta: but I just posted a link upthread from the sentinel that this info WAS released today.



Ok so maybe tomorrow we can call his bluff? ty so much for that link!

[Pam1569]

Please someone tell me what BC dumped or a link or sumtin :ohmy:

Hi newsjunkie

http://www.wesh.com/news/21145778/detail.html

[need2no]

Another thought. Would the Florida Sunshine Law apply to things the defense turns over to the State? I have no clue.

Not an attorney, but I would say yes. Under reciprocal discovery they each have to turn over discovery to each other. Just like the State is asking for the exculpatory evidence Macaluso referred to in court in re: proof Caylee's body was moved.

[Pam1569]

Hi Pam!

He saw them on June 9th in his computer store, and again on June 16th, the day after Father's Day, at a Walmart.

Thanks Impurrfect for the correction. So much info today and a migraine to boot. I thank you again for the clarification. :smile:

[newsjunkie]

why would they give the stuff to Brad? and let him release the evidence?


There is so much circumstantial evidence it can't be ignored.
There is other evidence too.
Never fear, shes going down :thumbsup:

[neid_77]

janie weintrab on the CASEY CASE!!! UGHHHHH

welll folks this is where i leave it in God's hands there is nothing i can contribute anymore you all know i love Caylee and after today's doc dump it's hard to get past the fact that the F.B.I has given the defense ammuniton to work with...OF ALL CASES!!!! i will comment now and then and continue to read...all i can hope is justice is served in some way in this case........:crying:

[need2no]

I was quite impressed with his statement, myself. Very observant young guy. He made a detailed, candid statement. I hope he's for real and will make a great witness for the state. :thumbup:

But did you see the link I posted...it's about how he wants to move to Washington and possibly open a computer store there. The link includes a pic of him and a brief bio.

[tia marie]

Yuck! Janie W. doing her usual spouting on JVM.

[Sun]

Hi Pam!

He saw them on June 9th in his computer store, and again on June 16th, the day after Father's Day, at a Walmart.

IIRC, Casey's cell phone pings would not put Casey in the area of Walmart on June 16th anytime around the lunch hour.

Nite, nite everyone.

[5boxersmom]

I'm listening right now to Jayne Weintraub on JVM yelling about how all the information released today helps Casey Anthony.

Weintraub gives defense attorneys a bad name. imo

Glad I don't have it on then.

jmo

[Pam1569]

janie weintrab on the CASEY CASE!!! UGHHHHH

welll folks this is where i leave it in God's hands there is nothing i can contribute anymore you all know i love Caylee and after today's doc dump it's hard to get past the fact that the F.B.I has given the defense ammuniton to work with...OF ALL CASES!!!! i will comment now and then and continue to read...all i can hope is justice is served in some way in this case........:crying:

neid, I hope that the prisoner stays that way for life and remembers everything that she has done to get herself there. No worries I do think the State has her.

[newsjunkie]

Look upthread a bit, news. neid_77 posted the link initially and it's been copied/quoted several times since. :smile:


I got it ty. At the time I asked I had just spent 3 hours in the docs and had to go make supper.

[BettyC]

I looked at it for just a brief second, n2n. Refresh my memory -- does this make him an even more appealing witness for the state? I hope? :w00t:

I will hope he doesn't show up in court wearing that hat.

I'm still not so sure about him. Why did he wait til July of 2009 to give this info to LE?

eta: AND then remember those dates from a year previously?

[Justme2]

just found a link to the conversation murt had about Trenton and Caylee...

http://www.imagebam.com/image/548d0521663247

There are 2 pages. This guy is beyond sick!!! This is what the docs had.

[Duke]

Great reading today. Not done yet reading all here but a very interesting day. Does anyone know if Casey gets doc dumps into her cell after we get them? Just saying i wonder if she is reading up on her slimmy story in her new home.

[TunaMelt]

How would the name "Zanny the Nanny" have come into play, then? and why would George and Cindy ask Caylee questions about what they did at Zanny's house? Apparently the name "Zanny" was heard for at least a year, year and a half, in the Anthony home before all this happened.

There's been discussion of the character in a childrens book, "Zanny the Nanny" -- maybe it was just a "cute" nanny name that got latched onto somehow?

Cindy did say she and George had Caylee most of the time when Casey didn't have her, but I think Zanny was in invention for when Casey was out with Caylee and wanted to do something with her friends, party, drink, etc.

I think the book title "Zanny the Nanny" was the suggestion that got the lie going in KC's mind.

But I think KC and her friends had a big laugh when it occured to them that Zanny the Nanny (book) ties in so very well with the "nanny" that is reality Xanax (Zanax).

I will always believe that Xanax was KC's nanny for Caylee. I believe it was KC's party drug (one of them), and also served to babysit Caylee.

Zani the street drug name for Xanax (pronounced Zanax) and Zanny the Nanny -- that's their little joke, KC and her party friends.

Look at the later photos of Caylee: she looks exhausted. Worse than ever. Or she looks hungover. A little girl, hungover from a high dosage of Xanax.

Arg.:cursing:

[spiritwolf46]

just found a link to the conversation murt had about Trenton and Caylee...

http://www.imagebam.com/image/548d0521663247

There are 2 pages. This guy is beyond sick!!! This is what the docs had.

OMG! I am absolutely (sorry) sick about what I just read! He IS SICK! barf!

[KittyMom]

He lied to Judge Rodriguez. Flat out lied.

Yes he did. And Judge R failed in his role as judge to allow M&M to question/investigate in order to bring this lie out. Judge R is continuing to look like a moron.

[need2no]

To my bolded.......How about your granddaughter is missing? That's not a good reason?



Geez...ya think LE might be interested in a 2 year old who's been missing for a month? Cindy, Cindy, Cindy.

[KittyMom]

and the next question is, what will Judge Rodriguez do about it?

Stick his head in the sand until January. :thumbdown:

[BettyC]

I've been thinking a bit about Conway's comments. First of all, how does he know just what documents the State released this morning? Did he go down and get his own copy of ALL of those documents? Doesn't he realize that the media may not waste space/resources to show the public pages and pages of things that they doubt are of much interest to the public?

And, has anyone seen page 2 of the agreement between DCasey and George & Cindy? From what I detect, there were 3 pages to that typed agreement, but in the doc dump I've only seen pages 1 and 3 shown. Page 2 likely contains the "payment arrangement" ...and I want to see that!!!

Perhaps Conway will release that tomorrow? Yeah, right, when pigs fly.

lol I missed this post. We'll see what tomorrow brings. (Maybe the media won't pay for his docs.)

[Postergeist]

I'm guessing not, Beep. It appears George was left out of all the high level sleuthing D. Casey, Cindy and Lee Anthony were doing. :rolleyes: Maybe it was his choice, or maybe they all consider him a weak link.

Too bad he didn't take the opportunity, while he was being ignored and dismissed by Cindy et al, to decide to take a stand for his granddaughter. Seems he just hung out in the background, waiting for opportunities to say whatever Cindy wanted him to say. imo


oh, it could be he had 'stuff' to do...didn't he say he had to drive the billboard around

Updated Aug. 11, 2008

George Anthony told Eyewitness News he's hitting the highway with a mobile billboard in tow. He readied his car Monday to pull a trailer with his missing granddaughter's picture on it and a number to call with information. George said he'll drive the mobile billboard along SR-50, the 408 and the 417.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17142154/detail.html


on Aug. 13th, 2008 he talks of Caylee

"My granddaughter has changed since June 16. That's the last time I've seen her. I know that. I'm sure she’s grown taller. I’m sure she’s become more beautiful,” Anthony said.



http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/george_anthony_speaks_out.html



By March 24, 2009 he had taken a stand against a permanent memorial for Caylee and also discussed the eXtreme boat and the new foundation.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19002036/detail.html

Meanwhile, Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, invited WESH 2 News to their home Tuesday.

They are taking a stand against a permanent memorial to Caylee along Suburban Drive.

Caylee's grandparents are getting ready to unveil a Caylee Anthony foundation that will have a search and rescue component like a page from the Texas Equusearch playbook. At the same time, they're coming out against a permanent Caylee memorial along Suburban Drive.

George and Cindy Anthony unveiled a new search boat named for Caylee. They also unveiled plans for a Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation they both will spearhead.



There is much busy work to be done when after all- Brad has spoken of this-

Updated: Tuesday, 10 Feb 2009, 4:25 PM EST
Published : Sunday, 21 Dec 2008, 10:13 AM EST

Caylee's grandparents Cindy and George Anthony were "grieving deeply" in private, their attorney Brad Conway told the Orlando Sentinel.

"This is a tragic moment in the lives of good and honorable people," he said.



http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/Crime_scene_open_another_search_warrant_served_at_ Anthony_home


Posted Feb. 27, 2009
The Anthonys’ attorney said both are under a doctor’s care as they grieve for their granddaughter Caylee, who disappeared eight months ago and whose remains were found more than two months ago, but he did not bring any evidence to court Wednesday to show that would legally prevent them from testifying.


http://westorlandonews.com/2009/02/27/moment-of-truth-for-lee-anthony-caseys-brother/


posted Sept. 16, 2009

"I want to maintain some sort of semblance of normalcy for them," Conway said, explaining his role in the case. "They are going through the grieving process, which is hard enough, but they have to do it under a microscope."


http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20090916/NEWS01/909160332&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

imo

[need2no]

(color by me)

Some mistruths??!! Is that really what she thinks of Casey's mountain high pile of lies?

Hey Cheri...mind boggling, isn't it.

Cindy also told Larry King:


C. ANTHONY: They made an arrest based on the fact that she lied about where she worked. That had nothing to do with Caylee.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0905/13/lkl.01.html
(May 13, 2009)

[Justme2]

OMG! I am absolutely (sorry) sick about what I just read! He IS SICK! barf!

I can't believe the stuff he said in there. He is now on his paltalk chat saying none of it is true. what a liar!!! its all there in black and white, ya can't erase it. I hope LE looks further into his allegations!

[newsjunkie]

OMG! I am absolutely (sorry) sick about what I just read! He IS SICK! barf!


Nice to see you friend. :rose:

I can't believe that chat either. I don't see anyone putting that out there only to be charged with crimes. Is it possible it is an imposter mascarading or am I just that naive?

[spiritwolf46]

I can't believe the stuff he said in there. He is now on his paltalk chat saying none of it is true. what a liar!!! its all there in black and white, ya can't erase it. I hope LE looks further into his allegations!

OH! You and me BOTH!

[Lavinya]

I can't believe the stuff he said in there. He is now on his paltalk chat saying none of it is true. what a liar!!! its all there in black and white, ya can't erase it. I hope LE looks further into his allegations!

Frankly I think he was trying to use sarcasm, but it appears there are some things you don't make light of. MOO.

[KittyMom]

I think Brad and Jose decided to come up with their big "dump" tomorrow after seeing how the public reacted to today's info. BUT, I'm thinking that AL and LKB will put a stop to anything being released that hasn't already been. It'll be the little boys against the big girls.

[Justme2]

Nice to see you friend. :rose:

I can't believe that chat either. I don't see anyone putting that out there only to be charged with crimes. Is it possible it is an imposter mascarading or am I just that naive?


Nope that is him. You can't use someone else registered name on paltalk. It is registered to Murt. That is him chatting on there.

[Lavinya]

I couldn't make out the stain in the doc drop, but now that I see it on NG, I can't "un-see" it! OMG!

[spiritwolf46]

Nice to see you friend. :rose:

I can't believe that chat either. I don't see anyone putting that out there only to be charged with crimes. Is it possible it is an imposter mascarading or am I just that naive?

Hi sweetie!!!

I guess it may be possible, for he did have many that hacked his site, but who knows. The other guy seemed to know a bit about him, unless he was being a smart arse.

This case has sure brought out the weird people, hasn't it?

[Dtviewer3]

Frankly I think he was trying to use sarcasm, but it appears there are some things you don't make light of. MOO.

Agreed, but it was in poor taste.

[Lavinya]

Nancy Grace is rocking and rolling tonight.

[Justme2]

Frankly I think he was trying to use sarcasm, but it appears there are some things you don't make light of. MOO.

Talking about raping or killing children is nothing to joke about. That's a sick mind that would do that!

[need2no]

Nancy Grace is showing the same pic from the docs that we've been talking about today.


And BOMBSHELL...the heart shaped residue was destroyed by the FBI, and a techs DNA was found on the tape. :rolleyes:

[Lavinya]

Agreed, but it was in poor taste.

No doubt about that DT!

[spiritwolf46]

George was towing. Cindy was sleuthing. Conway was shoveling. :thumbdown:

.....:lol:.....

And THAT.....is the REST of the story!

[need2no]

George was towing. Cindy was sleuthing. Conway was shoveling. :thumbdown:

~~~:lol:~~~

[newsjunkie]

Hi sweetie!!!

I guess it may be possible, for he did have many that hacked his site, but who knows. The other guy seemed to know a bit about him, unless he was being a smart arse.

This case has sure brought out the weird people, hasn't it?

Yes wierd and I am at the point now I am not sure who I despise more. Cindy is running a close second, maybe even tie for first grrrrrrrr!

[Lavinya]

Talking about raping or killing children is nothing to joke about. That's a sick mind that would do that!

Agreed. I think he was trying, in a poor way, to show the absurdity of it, IMO. It didn't translate well.

[Postergeist]

I couldn't make out the stain in the doc drop, but now that I see it on NG, I can't "un-see" it! OMG!

same here Lavinya- I looked at the links here and huh? but I guess the distance I'm away from the tv, yep-

looks like an elongated C

with stain to the left

head at the top

possibly an arm outline to the right, at maybe a 10 degree angle from the "head" area

imo

glad NG is finally covering Caylee's story again!

off to watch her-

:seeya:

(g'nite princes and princesses of IS)

[KittyMom]

There is a boat load of personal info in these docs. All those phone numbers, addys, email addys. Can you imagine all those lab techs having their direct lines out there for all the world to have access to. No good. :thumbdown:

[spiritwolf46]

Yes wierd and I am at the point now I am not sure who I despise more. Cindy is running a close second, maybe even tie for first grrrrrrrr!

I am voting a tie for first! That woman is a horrible horrible person with all of her finger pointing to everyone else but her own daughter! She is hateful, spiteful, lying and so many other things. She sure dug a hole in the ground big enough for her to lie in, hasn't she?

[Duke]

oh, it could be he had 'stuff' to do...didn't he say he had to drive the billboard around

Updated Aug. 11, 2008

George Anthony told Eyewitness News he's hitting the highway with a mobile billboard in tow. He readied his car Monday to pull a trailer with his missing granddaughter's picture on it and a number to call with information. George said he'll drive the mobile billboard along SR-50, the 408 and the 417.

http://www.wftv.com/news/17142154/detail.html


on Aug. 13th, 2008 he talks of Caylee

"My granddaughter has changed since June 16. That's the last time I've seen her. I know that. I'm sure she’s grown taller. I’m sure she’s become more beautiful,” Anthony said.



http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2008/9/18/george_anthony_speaks_out.html



By March 24, 2009 he had taken a stand against a permanent memorial for Caylee and also discussed the eXtreme boat and the new foundation.

http://www.wesh.com/news/19002036/detail.html

Meanwhile, Caylee's grandparents, George and Cindy Anthony, invited WESH 2 News to their home Tuesday.

They are taking a stand against a permanent memorial to Caylee along Suburban Drive.

Caylee's grandparents are getting ready to unveil a Caylee Anthony foundation that will have a search and rescue component like a page from the Texas Equusearch playbook. At the same time, they're coming out against a permanent Caylee memorial along Suburban Drive.

George and Cindy Anthony unveiled a new search boat named for Caylee. They also unveiled plans for a Caylee Marie Anthony Foundation they both will spearhead.



There is much busy work to be done when after all- Brad has spoken of this-

Updated: Tuesday, 10 Feb 2009, 4:25 PM EST
Published : Sunday, 21 Dec 2008, 10:13 AM EST

Caylee's grandparents Cindy and George Anthony were "grieving deeply" in private, their attorney Brad Conway told the Orlando Sentinel.

"This is a tragic moment in the lives of good and honorable people," he said.



http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/Crime_scene_open_another_search_warrant_served_at_ Anthony_home


Posted Feb. 27, 2009
The Anthonys’ attorney said both are under a doctor’s care as they grieve for their granddaughter Caylee, who disappeared eight months ago and whose remains were found more than two months ago, but he did not bring any evidence to court Wednesday to show that would legally prevent them from testifying.


http://westorlandonews.com/2009/02/27/moment-of-truth-for-lee-anthony-caseys-brother/


posted Sept. 16, 2009

"I want to maintain some sort of semblance of normalcy for them," Conway said, explaining his role in the case. "They are going through the grieving process, which is hard enough, but they have to do it under a microscope."


http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20090916/NEWS01/909160332&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

imo

Super job digging this up Postergeist! It is interesting how BC spins this also.

If she was so distraught I did not see one grieving e-mail from Cindy released today. It was pure venom shooting between her and her private investigator searching for Caylee on the internet:rolleyes:. The only time I saw Cindy acting sad was when she was in the court room watching Casey being persecuted with her head on George's shoulder:mad:. I need to give this a rest tonight because it is upsetting that poor Caylee experienced this and her family in cover mode w/o respect to their grand baby.

Good night peeps!

[newsjunkie]

I am voting a tie for first! That woman is a horrible horrible person with all of her finger pointing to everyone else but her own daughter! She is hateful, spiteful, lying and so many other things. She sure dug a hole in the ground big enough for her to lie in, hasn't she?


Between you and me & the whole IS board do you think she will be charged with anything before this is over or when it is over?

[spiritwolf46]

Between you and me & the whole IS board do you think she will be charged with anything before this is over or when it is over?

I can only hope so, News. I cannot say for sure, but I think, IMO, that they would have more than enough to bring her in on many things.

I guess it would all depend on the cost (since her lovely daughter's trial will be a fortune!) and what they can do with her. I say get her! LOL

[Lavinya]

"This stain can explain who is to blame." -- Sue Moss :laugh:

Lavinya -- you're not kidding! Nancy is full flower this evening. lol

It's good to see her back in this! Go Team Caylee!

[spiritwolf46]

It's good to see her back in this! Go Team Caylee!

I LOVE her! She takes no guff and says it like it is! GO SUE MOSS!

I would LOVE to hear her personal take on Casey and Cynthia! Well, the whole family, for that matter!

[KatieLady]

Frankly I think he was trying to use sarcasm, but it appears there are some things you don't make light of. MOO.

I got the same feeling Lavinya. My take was that he was baiting whoever the other person is.

Still sick tho IMO

[newsjunkie]

Does Jose have ANY other clients?

[Lavinya]

I got the same feeling Lavinya. My take was that he was baiting whoever the other person is.

Still sick tho IMO

Yeah, I've used the same "technique".. When I was 7, lol. Seriously, sometimes you just repeat silly things back to show the utter ridiculousness of it. Not usually to good response, lol.

[Lavinya]

Good to see Kathi there, too.

Yup. Loving me some Kathy!

[KatieLady]

Yeah, I've used the same "technique".. When I was 7, lol. Seriously, sometimes you just repeat silly things back to show the utter ridiculousness of it. Not usually to good response, lol.

Well....I never did think he was the brightest knife in the drawer LOL

[Lavinya]

Well....I never did think he was the brightest knife in the drawer LOL

To put it kindly, lol.

[seeing_eye]

I'm guessing not, Beep. It appears George was left out of all the high level sleuthing D. Casey, Cindy and Lee Anthony were doing. :rolleyes: Maybe it was his choice, or maybe they all consider him a weak link.

Too bad he didn't take the opportunity, while he was being ignored and dismissed by Cindy et al, to decide to take a stand for his granddaughter. Seems he just hung out in the background, waiting for opportunities to say whatever Cindy wanted him to say. imo

Strange that the only person who has any experience in police investigations is left on the sideline while amateurs continue the sleuthing!

[spiritwolf46]

Does Jose have ANY other clients?

I do believe that I read here that he does have other clients.

Anyone know about this?

TIA!

[Lavinya]

I do believe that I read here that he does have other clients.

Anyone know about this?

TIA!

I think he's pretty hot on the DUI circuit. At least he was.

[newsjunkie]

Strange that the only person who has any experience in police investigations is left on the sideline while amateurs continue the sleuthing!



But if only their sleuthing had to do with finding Caylee and the truth rather then finding ways to blame others! :thumbdown:

[BettyC]

I do believe that I read here that he does have other clients.

Anyone know about this?

TIA!

He does but most are drug related charges IIRC.

[RootBeer]

watching nancy grace and it breaks my heart everytime i see the video of caylee with her great grandpa.

[spiritwolf46]

I think he's pretty hot on the DUI circuit. At least he was.

Thank you much!

[spiritwolf46]

But if only their sleuthing had to do with finding Caylee and the truth rather then finding ways to blame others! :thumbdown:

That sure is the bottom line. They had NO intentions of getting to the truth! The only thing that they wanted to do is FIND someone to point their fingers to. Unbelievable!

[Januarybaby]

I do believe that I read here that he does have other clients.

Anyone know about this?

TIA!

I was watching a hearing Casey had about postponing her trials and they were saying one of the reasons they wanted it postponed was because Baez had other clients that he was working in addition to Caseys and he had no time. Well, they said the clients he took on were AFTER he took on Casey and that he should have thought of that before taking on a bigger workload.

I wish I could remember what channel or show I was watching.

[Lavinya]

"Creative reality". LOVES it! (Dr. Saunders?)

[KittyMom]

Strange that the only person who has any experience in police investigations is left on the sideline while amateurs continue the sleuthing!

Strange or very telling? What was left to investigate regarding the disappearance of Caylee? Only what was in the imagination of Cindy.

[need2no]

I was watching a hearing Casey had about postponing her trials and they were saying one of the reasons they wanted it postponed was because Baez had other clients that he was working in addition to Caseys and he had no time. Well, they said the clients he took on were AFTER he took on Casey and that he should have thought of that before taking on a bigger workload.

I wish I could remember what channel or show I was watching.

LTNS!

That was at the last hearing and most of the local media channels were carrying it live, and have the video available on their sites.

[Lavinya]

You beat me. Coke? (I think I have some Jack Daniels round here somewhere. :laugh:)

Found it! :laugh:

[need2no]

Mallory has a new pic today, and her mood is indescribable.

http://www.myspace.com/mal322

[need2no]

On Monday, June 16, Anthony's father, George Anthony, said he he saw his daughter and granddaughter leave his house at about 1 p.m.
"But if they did leave at that time, the cell records show they did not go far. Casey's cell phone communicated that afternoon through the same three cell towers she could reach from her home," Pipitone said.
At 1 p.m., Anthony made a 14-minute call to her boyfriend, Tony Lazzaro. At 1:44 p.m., she made a 36-minute call to her then-best friend, Amy Huizenga. At 2:52 p.m., there was an 11-minute call with ex-fiance Jesse Grund. All of the calls used cell towers that can be reached from her parents' home, Pipitone said.

http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17874799/detail.html

[summer]

Drat!

Thanks for this, n2n.

I'm hoping computer guy just had his days wrong. I still think his observations about Casey with Caylee are valuable.

Maybe it defies logic, sis, but I'm not ready to discount the complete validity (including dates) of this guy's statement. Pings be dammed. (can I say that?) :tonguewag:

[Postergeist]

Drat!

Thanks for this, n2n.

I'm hoping computer guy just had his days wrong. I still think his observations about Casey with Caylee are valuable.

Okay, I'm just now reading this guys statement-

who here has ever been to a Walmart recently, that you had to open the doors manually, that allowed for a person to enter and another person to exit at the same time? That there would be a manual door next to an automatic door?

"Casey was coming out one of the interior Walmart doors as I was coming in"

Do we have any local posters that have shopped at the Casselberry Walmart?

"I saw Cayley (sic)....having to open the big Walmart door by herself"

tia

pg. 4 of the big file http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html

(written # 8363)

[need2no]

Drat!

Thanks for this, n2n.

I'm hoping computer guy just had his days wrong. I still think his observations about Casey with Caylee are valuable.

Imp and Natasha...

I haven't had time to research the Walmart location, but IIRC someone upthread said it was 20 minutes from the Anthony house. Will check on this tonight and post tomorrow.

Ah, this curfew is stressful with so much to discuss.

[need2no]

Okay, I'm just now reading this guys statement-

who here has ever been to a Walmart recently, that you had to open the doors manually, that allowed for a person to enter and another person to exit at the same time? That there would be a manual door next to an automatic door?

"Casey was coming out one of the interior Walmart doors as I was coming in"

Do we have any local posters that have shopped at the Casselberry Walmart?

"I saw Cayley (sic)....having to open the big Walmart door by herself"

tia

pg. 4 of the big file http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html

(written # 8363)


Postie we were discussing this before you came on board. Some Walmarts like the ones in my area have manual doors in the auto shop department, and the garden shop. :shrug:

[summer]

Okay, I'm just now reading this guys statement-

who here has ever been to a Walmart recently, that you had to open the doors manually, that allowed for a person to enter and another person to exit at the same time? That there would be a manual door next to an automatic door?

"Casey was coming out one of the interior Walmart doors as I was coming in"

Do we have any local posters that have shopped at the Casselberry Walmart?

"I saw Cayley (sic)....having to open the big Walmart door by herself"

tia

pg. 4 of the big file http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21147519/detail.html

(written # 8363)

Supposedly Walmart has all kinds of doors. Automatic front doors, manual side doors, interior doors, doors that lead possibly in or out of a fast-food place like McDonalds connected to the store?

[Postergeist]

Maybe it defies logic, sis, but I'm not ready to discount the complete validity (including dates) of this guy's statement. Pings be dammed. (can I say that?) :tonguewag:

And another thing! This would still put Casey as being the last person with Caylee and with no nanny in sight, no Jeffrey, no Juliette, no sweetie, and certainly not at her 'job' where Mr. and Mrs. Anthony said she went to every day and definitely not wearing the same outfit she left the house in that George described in such astounding detail.

hmfph

imo

[Irestmycase]

I do believe Cindy is the nanny, Crime. Cindy herself stated that the "nanny" was whoever was watching Caylee, sort of like a generic term for babysitter. And I also believe that Cindy (and maybe George sometimes) actually watched Caylee 99% of the time although they sometimes deny that fact (but state it as fact at other times).

I'm not sure about who wrote the so-called "script." I'm inclined to think it was Casey with Cindy's help or possibly Cindy with Casey's help. JMO

Now that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard.

[summer]

Hi Summer and Impurrfect--are you talking about Thompsons's statement? Did not read yet. Sorry!

Hi Natasha, I'll be interested in hearing your take on the statement. I feel all questions about certain aspects will be answered quite satisfactorily to anyone who wants justice for Caylee and isn't a greedy hard-hearted liar. Did I just say that?

[need2no]

Yes! It's a must read, Natasha.

I'm just glad he doesn't come off like an oddball from what I read on his blog. Remember the guy who spotted someone that looked like casey coming out of the woods, and putting something in her trunk, and the guy in the suit was nearby pretending to be on a cell phone or something along these lines. Then we got the scoop on this guy. :laugh:

[summer]

I'm just glad he doesn't come off like an oddball from what I read on his blog. Remember the guy who spotted someone that looked like casey coming out of the woods, and putting something in her trunk, and the guy in the suit was nearby pretending to be on a cell phone or something along these lines. Then we got the scoop on this guy. :laugh:

hehe I totally believed that guy and thought he was being unjustly maligned. Well you win some you lose some. :mellow:

[Postergeist]

Postie we were discussing this before you came on board. Some Walmarts like the ones in my area have manual doors in the auto shop department, and the garden shop. :shrug:

I sorry, I had to leave the house today early and missed it-

okay, yes, my Wal-marts have a manual door by the auto area, but I've never tried to enter or exit at the same time that others are...IMO that is rude, one should step aside.

Our garden shop doors are big sliding doors, and there is one side manual door at the end where the groceries start- if he can be specific about her attire, he should be able to recall what door he entered.

And I've yet to be in a Wal-mart that had interior doors- except for the restrooms...okay, somebody take their not quite 3 yr. old up to one of the manual doors and see if they can push/pull it open without help. tia

:biggrin:

[need2no]

hehe I totally believed that guy and thought he was being unjustly maligned. Well you win some you lose some. :mellow:

Well heck I did to until I read all the 'stuff' about him, then I hesitated a bit. But when nothing else was reported on this I figured he was, uh...shall we say looking for his 15 minutes. But who knows.

[denjet]

Shrink on NG says the Anthonys all engage in "creative reality" and Casey "flat out lies."
Is that what they're calling bold-face lying now :glare:

[Postergeist]

Hey Postie,

According to a couple local posters, it's an older Walmart and does have both auto and manual doors. Plus, several other posters pointed out that Walmart side doors are manual.

okay, it's the like a Bedrock Walmart? lol I thought the MOTY was more of a Winn Dixie, Target, Penney's shopper from other info we were made aware of.

Anyone recall right off the bat about her texting about WM?

Can anyone local say that the manual door entries are double doored or single doored?

[KTBarTheDoor]

Imp and Natasha...

I haven't had time to research the Walmart location, but IIRC someone upthread said it was 20 minutes from the Anthony house. Will check on this tonight and post tomorrow.

Ah, this curfew is stressful with so much to discuss.

If wal-mart is 20 minutes away then would same towers be used as the ones are at her house?

[seeing_eye]

Now that is the most ridiculous thing I've heard.

Can you elaborate on the ridiculous aspect of this concept? If so, it may change my thinking considerably. TIA

[need2no]

I sorry, I had to leave the house today early and missed it-

okay, yes, my Wal-marts have a manual door by the auto area, but I've never tried to enter or exit at the same time that others are...IMO that is rude, one should step aside.

Our garden shop doors are big sliding doors, and there is one side manual door at the end where the groceries start- if he can be specific about her attire, he should be able to recall what door he entered.

And I've yet to be in a Wal-mart that had interior doors- except for the restrooms...okay, somebody take their not quite 3 yr. old up to one of the manual doors and see if they can push/pull it open without help. tia

:biggrin:

I didn't recall seeing you on board when we were discussing this earlier today. It seems all Wal-marts are different as far as manual entrances and exits. Our 2 newer Wal-marts have double auto doors going into the garden center, the older Wally World just has single manual doors for the auto and garden areas. I'm not even sure an almost 3 year old could get the auto doors in an "old" Wal-mart to open.

[need2no]

Someone posted earlier that in that Walmart, she'd be pinging off the same towers she pinged from Tony L's apartment.

Yes, didn't that poster say this Walmart was close to Tony's apartment?

[Postergeist]

Imp and Natasha...

I haven't had time to research the Walmart location, but IIRC someone upthread said it was 20 minutes from the Anthony house. Will check on this tonight and post tomorrow.

Ah, this curfew is stressful with so much to discuss.

oh thanks for that reminder n2n- it's T minus 10 min. or so, last night got locked at 8:23 PM Central time, so it's run a little over tonite.

20 minutes is feasible, but then, wonder where did Casey change into her shortie shorts, in her car in the parking lot?

[need2no]

okay, it's the like a Bedrock Walmart? lol I thought the MOTY was more of a Winn Dixie, Target, Penney's shopper from other info we were made aware of.

Anyone recall right off the bat about her texting about WM?

Can anyone local say that the manual door entries are double doored or single doored?

Don't hold me to this, but I seem to recall a text casey wrote to somebody and she mentioned something she purchased at Walmart. I'll research this when the board is down.

[Postergeist]

I didn't recall seeing you on board when we were discussing this earlier today. It seems all Wal-marts are different as far as manual entrances and exits. Our 2 newer Wal-marts have double auto doors going into the garden center, the older Wally World just has single manual doors for the auto and garden areas. I'm not even sure an almost 3 year old could get the auto doors in an "old" Wal-mart to open.

TY all for reposting the info, and it makes me glad to know that others were questioning this whole door scenario then.

But like I posted earlier- if this guy's legit- still has Casey as last seen w/Caylee and NO nanny caught on film anywhere and no one spotted her out with them either.

[need2no]

oh thanks for that reminder n2n- it's T minus 10 min. or so, last night got locked at 8:23 PM Central time, so it's run a little over tonite.

20 minutes is feasible, but then, wonder where did Casey change into her shortie shorts, in her car in the parking lot?

I'm wondering about that myself...would be hard to change in the car with her cell phone in her hand while sending all those texts. :laugh:

[need2no]

TY all for reposting the info, and it makes me glad to know that others were questioning this whole door scenario then.

But like I posted earlier- if this guy's legit- still has Casey as last seen w/Caylee and NO nanny caught on film anywhere and no one spotted her out with them either.

Check this out when we go down.

http://www.mymasn.com/profile/JamesThompson

[need2no]

June 16, 2008 phone calls and texts:
8:46am Casey calls Tony (pings start at Anthony house.)
11:47am Tony calls Casey
12:53pm Casey calls Tony (having just left the house to go to work per George)
12:55pm Tony texts Casey
1:00pm Tony calls Casey (call about 14 minutes) 1:00-1:14, 12 min. later
1:26pm Casey texts Jesse 12 min. later
1:37pm Casey gets text from Jesse
1:44pm Casey calls Amy 36 minutes 1:44-2:20, 32 min. later
2:52pm Casey gets call from Jesse 11 minutes 2:52-3:03
3:03pm Casey calls George
3:04pm Casey gets call from George. 25 seconds.
Casey and Caylee return to the house then 31 min. later
3:35pm Casey calls Tony 22 seconds 35 min. later
4:10pm Casey calls Cindy at work
4:11pm Casey calls Cindy cell
4:13pm Casey calls Cindy cell again
4:14pm Casey calls George 98 seconds 4:14—4:16
4:18pm Casey texts Tony (pings now appear to be travelling away from Anthony home)
4:19pm Casey gets text from Tony
4:19pm Casey calls Tony
4:21pm Casey calls Jesse twice; second call 75 seconds 4:21—4:23
4:25pm Casey calls Cindy cell 3 seconds (now pinging near Tony's apt)
6:31pm Casey calls Cindy
6:32pm Casey calls Cindy
6:33pm Casey calls home leaves voicemail
7:06pm Casey calls home
7:20pm Casey calls Amy
7:21pm Casey calls Amy 42 seconds
8:03pm Casey checks Voice Mail
8:03pm Casey gets text from Mark Hawkins.
10:45pm Casey gets text from Amy
11:17pm Casey gets text from Mark Hawkins.


8:00pm-ish Casey and Tony are on tape, seen at video rental place
.
June 16 Cindy returns home from work and finds the pool ladder is attached to the pool and the fence gate is open.
.
June 16 Per Amy H official statement, Casey spent: June 16 thru July 4 with Tony Lazzaro

http://prairiechicken.blogspot.com/2009/06/casey-anthony-timeline-revised-june-1.html

[need2no]

Psst! Maybe if you all would quit mentioning it ... :glare:

Why...am I doing something wrong. :confused:

[Postergeist]

You're still assuming the computer store guy was correct on his dates, Postie, but he couldn't have been, because according to Casey's cell phone pings on the 16th, she wasn't in the area of that Walmart in the timeframe computer store guy claims he saw her. She was still in the Anthony neighborhood.

He probably saw her on another day. This is my hope, anyway -- that he just had the days mixed up.

ah, sure seems that anyone that gets within elbow distance of Caylee tends to jumble up there dates down there in Orlando!

oh and thanks n2n for the link- I think, lol.

[summer]

If wal-mart is 20 minutes away then would same towers be used as the ones are at her house?

I read somewhere today it is 11 miles from her house (or maybe from Tony's house... I'm not a detail person lol). Don't know if that's true or not but...

[summer]

Psst! Maybe if you all would quit mentioning it ... :glare:

LOL ... shhhhhh everybody - be vewwy quiet...

[Lavinya]

Psst! Maybe if you all would quit mentioning it ... :glare:

:laugh::laugh:

[KTBarTheDoor]

Someone posted earlier that in that Walmart, she'd be pinging off the same towers she pinged from Tony L's apartment.

Thank You... she was at home or that area when she was making those calls..