James Ward Charged With Murdering Wife At Isleworth, FL. Home

[KittyMom]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21051067/detail.html

Man Charged With Murdering Wife At Isleworth Home
It was murder in a $3.5 million mansion. A real estate developer was arrested for shooting his wife to death inside an Isleworth home Monday night (images of home | raw video). James Robert Ward, 61, has been charged with second-degree murder and is being held on no bond.

Ward, however, claims he was trying to stop his wife, 55-year-old Diane Elizabeth Ward, from committing suicide in their home on Isleworth Country Club Drive (see map). Ward initially told a 911 operator repeatedly that he had shot his wife Monday night, but then changed his story when apparently talking to his attorney that she killed herself. Investigators are still trying to find out what happened to the wealthy couple that led to the tragic end.

[KittyMom]

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21061821/detail.html
James Ward Arrest Affidavit

[KittyMom]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21117275/detail.html

Daughter, Sister-In-Law Visit Isleworth Murder Suspect

Ward is accused of murdering his wife in his Isleworth mansion Monday night. Ward's daughter Mallory visited him Friday for the first time since his arrest, along with Ward's deceased wife's sister.

Meanwhile, Ward's financial meltdown continues as he sits in jail. Friday, a judge approved the sale of more than 600 acres of land in North Carolina that belonged to Ward's development company, Land Resource. The land sold for $2.7 million.

The company filed for bankruptcy last year. Police haven't said if there is a connection between Ward's financial troubles and his wife's death.

SUSPECT'S WIFE COULD HAVE FACED TOUGH QUESTIONS
Diane Ward could have been expecting to face a gaggle of attorneys representing a gaggle of creditors scheduled just hours after she was killed. Her husband is accused by a bonding company of skimming company money to support their lavish lifestyle.

Sheaffer said anyone suing the Wards could have had lawyers at her deposition and they could question her. He says the Wards' lawyer would have warned them about how ugly it could get. Sheaffer says the lawyers would go for Ward's wife first, hoping to wear her down more easily before questioning Ward.

[KittyMom]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21127311/detail.html

Murder Suspect Dances In New Jail House Video

Ward was in good spirits for his first video visit on Friday. The man who's accused of murdering his wife Diane in their million dollar Isleworth home was doing a dance and strip tease for his daughter Mallory Ward and his sister in law Paula Saare.

:huh:

1. Who does a strip tease while in jail for murder?
2. Who does a strip tease for their s-i-l and daughter?

[KittyMom]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21127311/detail.html

They show clips from the visit.

[kakax]

Does anyone know if this sister in law is her sister or his?

Has anyone from her family spoken out?

I saw the video of him with the stain on the back of his shirt.

Now, I'm not Dr. Lee with his ketchup spurting, but it doesn't look like it was thrown at him. Looks more like he fell on it. Doesn't have ragged edges if that makes sense or spatter marks. (although it isn't a close up of his shirt)

This case seems fascinating. In the arrest warrant it says that there was no blood found on the inside of the barrel of the gun. Is it correct to assume that that is important because if it were close contact wound it would have blood in the barrel?

Also they found a stain of red on the patio and broken glass. My initial thought was they had had an argument and she threw a glass at him. The shirt doesn't seem to hold that theory. You would think you would see drip marks. Hope that makes sense.

[kakax]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21127311/detail.html

Murder Suspect Dances In New Jail House Video



:huh:

1. Who does a strip tease while in jail for murder?
2. Who does a strip tease for their s-i-l and daughter?



I didn't really see it as a strip tease. I saw it as the daughter is supposed to be the "clown" of the family making everyone laugh and he was playing to that. Doesn't make it any less disgusting though.

Killed me though, the first words out of his daughter's mouth were "hey handsome". Reminded me of another case we are following.

[kakax]

Death stuns friends of former Atlanta developer charged in wife's murder

http://www.ajc.com/news/death-stuns-friends-of-144282.html


I've read so much speculation in the comments about his business in the comment section of the Orlando Papers. Here is a little bit about his business.

At the time of the filing, Ward told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that his business fell victim to the real estate downturn. Ward said he was not making enough money on sales to complete promised projects and hoped to sell the company's assets, valued at $115.2 million, according to bankruptcy records. The Atlanta Braves were listed among the company's creditors.

[kakax]

These are links from his 2008 bankruptcy...

http://www.ajc.com/ajccars/content/printedition/2008/11/15/cumberland.html

http://www.ajc.com/homefinder/content/metro/stories/2008/05/19/cumberland_0520.html?cxntlid=inform_artr

[KittyMom]

The sister in law is the wife's sister. She is in a bit of a pickle over a development in St. Mary's, GA that Ward financed. It's gone bellly-up now. I've got family in that area and its big news down there.

IIRC, the 2004 HGTV Dreamhome was built in the new development in St. Marys. Most of the development has no water or sewage and the city is left trying to make things right for the folks that have built homes there already.

[KittyMom]

Does anyone know if this sister in law is her sister or his? It is her sister. But the woman works with one of his land development companies.

Has anyone from her family spoken out? I'm not aware of anyone saying anything.

I saw the video of him with the stain on the back of his shirt.

Now, I'm not Dr. Lee with his ketchup spurting, but it doesn't look like it was thrown at him. Looks more like he fell on it. Doesn't have ragged edges if that makes sense or spatter marks. (although it isn't a close up of his shirt)

This case seems fascinating. In the arrest warrant it says that there was no blood found on the inside of the barrel of the gun. Is it correct to assume that that is important because if it were close contact wound it would have blood in the barrel? I would assume that if she'd committed suicide as he is now saying, that there would be blood in the barrel.

Also they found a stain of red on the patio and broken glass. My initial thought was they had had an argument and she threw a glass at him. The shirt doesn't seem to hold that theory. You would think you would see drip marks. Hope that makes sense. I've heard that she was drinking wine. Maybe the stain was where she dropped her glass?

[KittyMom]

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iWiUa3cSksgetZh8Mw49wuJF4V6QD9B0G0MG1

Fla. magnate's empire collapsed before shooting

Diane Ward's death is a disturbing turn in the life of her husband, a self-made millionaire who in recent years had suffered crushing financial troubles. J. Robert Ward hadn't paid the $16,841 monthly mortgage on the estate in over a year, and had filed for bankruptcy after his business — developing vacation and resort home communities in five states — failed.

He may have had other demons as well. Dianne McClintock Callahan of Marietta, Ga., dated Ward some 25 years ago but kept in touch over the years. She said he was well-liked, kind and generous — until he drank.

"He was mean," she said, describing their final night together, during which Ward allegedly pointed a gun at her and beat her with a bedpost he had ripped off her bed. Callahan recalls talking to police from a hospital, but doesn't remember whether charges were filed.

"He was like the perfect man, other than that temper," she said.

[KittyMom]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-isleworth-ward-death-092709,0,985559.story

Isleworth killing: First wife called Ward dangerous
Divorce records show then-wife accused James Robert Ward of physical cruelty


Callahan, who has talked with Orange County Sheriff's Office investigators, said Ward seemed genuinely remorseful about the way their relationship ended. But when she learned that Ward's first wife — who died in a car wreck 30 years ago — once accused him of "physical cruelty," she didn't flinch.

"So something happened with her, something happened with me and now the wife is dead," Callahan said. "Are you seeing a pattern here?"


hmmmm....makes me wonder about that car wreck.

[kakax]

I've heard that she was drinking wine. Maybe the stain was where she dropped her glass?


How would he have ended on top of it LOL!

[kakax]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-isleworth-ward-death-092709,0,985559.story

Isleworth killing: First wife called Ward dangerous
Divorce records show then-wife accused James Robert Ward of physical cruelty




hmmmm....makes me wonder about that car wreck.


Wow! Going to go read now.

[kakax]

Hmmm. well that was an interesting article. A little mix of Spector and Michael Peterson.

Wonder what will come out next!

Did you read the comments in the article in the news stations reports? They were heavily talking about his greed and the fact that many of his communities weren't even able to build roads.

[kakax]

http://wcvarones.blogspot.com/2009/09/greenspans-body-count-diane-ward-wife.html

[kakax]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/orange_news/092909_ward_jail_tape_2_released


New jailhouse video released today.

[KittyMom]

This is Diane Ward's sister, Paula Saare

http://www.incredibleagents.com/real-estate-agents/GA/Saint-Marys/Cumberland-Harbour-Realty/1770031/Paula-Saare.html

http://www.brokeragentsocial.com/PaulaSaare/

[barskin&co.]

From the Today show this am. Ye Gods. This family makes the Anthonys, who are only enabling, in-denial apologists for their murderer daughter, seem downright normal.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/33086513#33086513

[BettyC]

From the Today show this am. Ye Gods. This family makes the Anthonys, who are only enabling, in-denial apologists for their murderer daughter, seem downright normal.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/33086513#33086513

I have to agree. This guy thinks he's going to walk out of jail soon too. I hope they have some evidence to keep him there.

This family is bizarre. The sister and the daughter should be ashamed. IMO.

[dee4294]

I worked with Diane (maiden name Cardinale) for several years, prior to her meeting and marrying Bob Ward. I was stunned to hear about her death and the circumstances. Never thought I'd see someone I knew on TruTV message boards.

[need2no]

I worked with Diane (maiden name Cardinale) for several years, prior to her meeting and marrying Bob Ward. I was stunned to hear about her death and the circumstances. Never thought I'd see someone I knew on TruTV message boards.

Wow..that must feel weird. Can you tell us a little about her? I'm very confused about why no one seems to be upset over her death. The daughter is downright gleeful in those jail visits with dad, as is her own sister, and then the daughter mentioned the funeral plans like she was talking about going to the mall.

[barskin&co.]

Wow..that must feel weird. Can you tell us a little about her? I'm very confused about why no one seems to be upset over her death. The daughter is downright gleeful in those jail visits with dad, as is her own sister, and then the daughter mentioned the funeral plans like she was talking about going to the mall.

As a matter of fact she talked about how her mother's death put a "little kink" in her other plans. I mean....what??? Not to mention her highly sexual poses (opening her legs, thusting her chest, flicking her tongue). Lord. What a creepy family.

[barskin&co.]

I worked with Diane (maiden name Cardinale) for several years, prior to her meeting and marrying Bob Ward. I was stunned to hear about her death and the circumstances. Never thought I'd see someone I knew on TruTV message boards.

Welcome, dee. Please tell us about Diane.

[need2no]

As a matter of fact she talked about how her mother's death put a "little kink" in her other plans. I mean....what??? Not to mention her highly sexual poses (opening her legs, thusting her chest, flicking her tongue). Lord. What a creepy family.


Can you imagine, not an ounce of grief shown for the deceased wife, sister, mother. And yes barskin I agree, those flirty highly suggestive poses, tongue actions, and giggling, etc. were nothing short of disgusting..turned my stomach to see a daughter behaving this way in front of, and for her father, and him responding as if it were the norm. Oh, and James doing a little dance and exposing his belly-WTH was that all about. These people are off the charts...laughing, joking, making light of the whole situation-good gawd.


Oh, and where are my manners...WELCOME to the board dee! :seeya:


RIP Diane :rose:

[Casspian]

Very weird ... it was difficult for me to even watch the daughter in the msnbc video. :unsure:

[Casspian]

I would imagine someone has posted this, but here is the link to the full second Jail video - no news, just the video.

http://www.cfnews13.com/MediaPlayer2/MediaPlayer.htm?video=WARDVIDPHONECALLW_0929200906 51&cat=Local&title=Second%20Ward%20Jailhouse%20Video%20Released

[dee4294]

[QUOTE=need2no;13523128]Wow..that must feel weird. Can you tell us a little about her?

We worked for the same company in Jacksonville FL from around 1980 to '85 (I had been there since 1969) -- . She was secretary to the president, I was an assistant vice president. She's about 10 years younger than I, so she was around thirty at that time, and single. We were not friends. Our company was bought out by Fairfield Communities, the Jacksonville office subsequently closed and I was laid off. I believe she transferred to the Atlanta office where she met Bob. Nothing in particular stands out about her in my memory, except that she was attractive, and that she didn't seem like the type to ever consider suicide, but then how do we ever really know what goes on in someone else's mind? Incidentally, the people I worked with in the Jacksonville office were pretty close-knit -- most of us still keep in touch (not Diane), have a reunion lunch every year around Christmas, and everyone was shocked to hear about this.

[RayStar]

Very weird ... it was difficult for me to even watch the daughter in the msnbc video. :unsure:Something is very strange with her. I bet she drove her mother NUTS.

[need2no]

[QUOTE=need2no;13523128]Wow..that must feel weird. Can you tell us a little about her?

We worked for the same company in Jacksonville FL from around 1980 to '85 (I had been there since 1969) -- . She was secretary to the president, I was an assistant vice president. She's about 10 years younger than I, so she was around thirty at that time, and single. We were not friends. Our company was bought out by Fairfield Communities, the Jacksonville office subsequently closed and I was laid off. I believe she transferred to the Atlanta office where she met Bob. Nothing in particular stands out about her in my memory, except that she was attractive, and that she didn't seem like the type to ever consider suicide, but then how do we ever really know what goes on in someone else's mind? Incidentally, the people I worked with in the Jacksonville office were pretty close-knit -- most of us still keep in touch (not Diane), have a reunion lunch every year around Christmas, and everyone was shocked to hear about this.


Thank you for your response dee. I can imagine you were all quite shocked when you heard this news. From the picture I saw of Diane I would agree, she was an attractive woman. You are correct, how can we ever know what is in someone else's mind, and whether or not they are 'the type' to commit suicide, or what event might push someone over the edge. I was just curious if you found her to be impulsive, negative, tense, edgy, complainer, nervous, depressed....that type of thing one sometimes picks up from being around a co-worker daily.

I just don't understand the behavior of her very own sister, or her daughter. They show no grief about Diane's death, they are jovial and chatty and seem only concerned about James and his well being. Even the funeral service arrangements seem to be an inconveniece for them. While I realize it's not in James best interest to talk about the case, I would not expect this kind of blatant and abnormal, disrespectful behavior, regardless of what kind of person Diane may have been. I can't help but wonder if James' money plays a big part in this, perhaps they are so supportive of James for this reason. But heck they could respect their mother/sister and still support James. :shrug:

[dee4294]

need2know, the personality traits that come to mind are maybe a lack of self-confidence and a tendency to worry a lot about inconsequential things (not uncommon among 30-year-old females).

I too am dismayed by the lack of respect and absence of grieving, but after following CourtTV and the message boards for the past 10 or 12 years, nothing really surprises me anymore.

[KittyMom]

From the Today show this am. Ye Gods. This family makes the Anthonys, who are only enabling, in-denial apologists for their murderer daughter, seem downright normal.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/33086513#33086513

The Anthonys are exactly who I thought of when watching the first tape released.

[KittyMom]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-james-robert-ward-no-jail-visitation-100209,0,6823392.story

Sister-in-law cancels jail visit with Isleworth millionaire James Robert Ward


On Wednesday, Ward asked jail officials to allow only a select few people to visit him behind bars. Jail records show Ward limited his visitors to Mallory Ward and his other daughter, Sarah Ward. Also included in the list are friends Michael Pappas and Paula Pappas, as well as his sister-in-law.

[need2no]

need2know, the personality traits that come to mind are maybe a lack of self-confidence and a tendency to worry a lot about inconsequential things (not uncommon among 30-year-old females).

I too am dismayed by the lack of respect and absence of grieving, but after following CourtTV and the message boards for the past 10 or 12 years, nothing really surprises me anymore.


Probably not uncommon among women in general, especially the part about worrying. Though I do know some women who tend to worry and stress about every itty bitty thing day in, day out, so I get your drift.

Like you've I been following CTV and the message boards for a long, long time, but just when I think I've seen and heard it all........along comes something else. Maybe this is the reason I still watch CTV/Tru TV, and follow cases on this board.

Thanks again for your comments dee, and if you think of, or hear something else from her former co-workers, please share.

[Casspian]

Something is very strange with her. I bet she drove her mother NUTS.

I don't know? The part in the back where the daughter and dad are talking about sports teams is strange also (to me).

I can't tell if the SIL starts getting a little uncomfortable or not either, but someone just posted a link that she cancelled her next visit - I wonder if she saw the video afterwards and then realized her niece was a little strange. I wouldn't want to be her. Hard telling, maybe she just can't believe he did it? yet? My bet is that she will steer clear of visits and the media from now on. It will be interesting to see, huh?

(well, I read the link and it says she rescheduled)

[barskin&co.]

Something is very strange with her. I bet she drove her mother NUTS.

Please, RayStar. I disagree. She'd have to get much, much more normal to arrive at being very strange. She is Princess Bizarro.

[need2no]

Family Warns Ward To Keep Quiet

In the call made from the Orange County Jail, James Ward doesn't laugh, tell any jokes or dance like he has before. He simply asks family members how his daughters are doing.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/5/second_phone_call_from_isleworth_murder_suspect_re leased.html

I guess previously they didn't believe all those postings about their visits being video taped, until the media proved otherwise.

[velvetbrown]

The Anthonys are exactly who I thought of when watching the first tape released.

Except George is in jail and Casey's on the outside...

[Casspian]

Family Warns Ward To Keep Quiet

In the call made from the Orange County Jail, James Ward doesn't laugh, tell any jokes or dance like he has before. He simply asks family members how his daughters are doing.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/5/second_phone_call_from_isleworth_murder_suspect_re leased.html

I guess previously they didn't believe all those postings about their visits being video taped, until the media proved otherwise.


I think it's a little odd they have to keep warning this guy to keep quiet :tongueside:

[KittyMom]

http://www.cfnews13.com/Features/Video/Default.aspx

This is a link to a live stream of the bond hearing that starts in just a few minutes.

[Bspotti!]

I was just going to link to that. I want to see if he freaks out in the courtroom the way he did during his visits...
I am using the wftv link but the buffering is bad.

[KittyMom]

If he starts dancing and unbuttoning his shirt I want the court officers to taze his hiney! lol

[KittyMom]

I'm sitting here watching the guy and I thinking he may be trying to set up an insanity defense.

[KittyMom]

Plea of not guilty and ask for a jury trial

Feb 3 or 15th...didn't understand that one

[KittyMom]

Smiling and upbeat? whoa

[KittyMom]

Got a doc appt. May need someone to catch me up later.

[Bspotti!]

If he starts dancing and unbuttoning his shirt I want the court officers to taze his hiney! lol

LOL :hat: So far he is behaving but the feeds are buffering badly for me.

[Roux]

Dr. G has persuaded me no suicide.

[Pierre]

I dont get it??? Doesn't this woman even care about her dead sister???

[Roux]

I dont get it??? Doesn't this woman even care about her dead sister???

I don't get it either. I think this family is a lite version of the Anthonys.

[Pierre]

I don't get it either. I think this family is a lite version of the Anthonys.

He needs to stay right where he is IMO.

[kakax]

Dr. G has persuaded me no suicide.

I missed it....did she testify today in the bond hearing? It was a bond hearing right? I am assuming he is staying right where he is.

[Roux]

I missed it....did she testify today in the bond hearing? It was a bond hearing right? I am assuming he is staying right where he is.

Dr. G testified earlier. It's wrapping up just now as to releasing Ward on bond.

[Pierre]

Oh hey "I just shot my wife"
ok you can go home, oh and bond; just use the money you skimmed from the business.
I'm getting really disapointed with our legal system.

[kakax]

Oh hey "I just shot my wife"
ok you can go home, oh and bond; just use the money you skimmed from the business.
I'm getting really disapointed with our legal system.

Sounds like Spector.

[Roux]

Oh hey "I just shot my wife"
ok you can go home, oh and bond; just use the money you skimmed from the business.
I'm getting really disapointed with our legal system.

I don't understand the financial wheeling and dealings of people like Ward. He has two other houses, yet was letting the 16,000 mtg pmt slide on the Isleworth place and go into foreclosure. Daughter going to college and participating in horse shows, an extremely expensive sport I presume. How did they pay that personal asst woman and continue to live the high life when their home was being forclosed on.

This is going to be another Spector and Jensen, i.e., she committed suicide, but IMO Dr. G made it pretty plain today though. The tattooing of GSR, area and angle of the gunshot wound, eyes open, and IIRC no GSR on her hands.

[Pierre]

I don't understand the financial wheeling and dealings of people like Ward. He has two other houses, yet was letting the 16,000 mtg pmt slide on the Isleworth place and go into foreclosure. Daughter going to college and participating in horse shows, an extremely expensive sport I presume. How did they pay that personal asst woman and continue to live the high life when their home was being forclosed on.

This is going to be another Spector and Jensen, i.e., she committed suicide, but IMO Dr. G made it pretty plain today though. The tattooing of GSR, area and angle of the gunshot wound, eyes open, and IIRC no GSR on her hands.

ya and then Baden's husband can testify that she put the gun in the drawer after she shot herself.
I wonder if the sister in law is/was on the payroll at his company?

[Pierre]

I don't understand the financial wheeling and dealings of people like Ward. He has two other houses, yet was letting the 16,000 mtg pmt slide on the Isleworth place and go into foreclosure. Daughter going to college and participating in horse shows, an extremely expensive sport I presume. How did they pay that personal asst woman and continue to live the high life when their home was being forclosed on.

This is going to be another Spector and Jensen, i.e., she committed suicide, but IMO Dr. G made it pretty plain today though. The tattooing of GSR, area and angle of the gunshot wound, eyes open, and IIRC no GSR on her hands.

Im not sure who but the atty's for the moneys owed to others were going to grill Diane ward for info??

[KittyMom]

Im not sure who but the atty's for the moneys owed to others were going to grill Diane ward for info??

Yep. Diane Ward had a deposition scheduled for the next day. Convenient that she "shot herself" hours before the depo, uh? And yep...I can just see Baden saying with her dying breath she placed the gun in the drawer and closed it. "Cause she's a housewife don't cha know. :rolleyes:

[KittyMom]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-bob-ward-attorney-100809,0,5516655.story

Isleworth shooting: Judge said $100,000 bond for Isleworth shooting suspect James 'Bob' Ward


<thud>

I can't believe this???

[KittyMom]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-10/49744500.jpg

Was this the last thing Diane saw as her husband stood in front of her with a gun aimed in her face?

:scared:

[KittyMom]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21239081/detail.html

Isleworth Murder Suspect Granted $100,000 Bond

The Orlando judge granted bond to James Robert Ward after listening to his two daughters, sister-in-law, home caretaker and former colleague testify Thursday.

The defense filed several photos with the court that show family photos of the Wards during happier times. Ward's attorney says Ward's dead wife's sister supports his release, as do his two daughters.

Ward apparently has also been evaluated by a psychiatrist who says he poses no harm to himself or anyone else.

[kakax]

I don't understand the financial wheeling and dealings of people like Ward. He has two other houses, yet was letting the 16,000 mtg pmt slide on the Isleworth place and go into foreclosure. Daughter going to college and participating in horse shows, an extremely expensive sport I presume. How did they pay that personal asst woman and continue to live the high life when their home was being forclosed on.

This is going to be another Spector and Jensen, i.e., she committed suicide, but IMO Dr. G made it pretty plain today though. The tattooing of GSR, area and angle of the gunshot wound, eyes open, and IIRC no GSR on her hands.

Well one thing we have in justice's favor is Dr. G. I don't believe you can discredit her...she is the cream of the crop IMO.

This is sickening this man is out now. Who wants to make a bet he flees?

[kakax]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-10/49744500.jpg

Was this the last thing Diane saw as her husband stood in front of her with a gun aimed in her face?

:scared:

Only a psychopath could smile like that in a court hearing for MURDERING HIS WIFE!

What in the world. There are no words.

[kakax]

Yep. Diane Ward had a deposition scheduled for the next day. Convenient that she "shot herself" hours before the depo, uh? And yep...I can just see Baden saying with her dying breath she placed the gun in the drawer and closed it. "Cause she's a housewife don't cha know. :rolleyes:


You forgot to add hysterical housewife...:rolleyes: That is how this is going to play out. She just greedy and couldn't stand the thought of living in poverty. Ugh, makes me wanna vomit.

[kakax]

Im not sure who but the atty's for the moneys owed to others were going to grill Diane ward for info??


Scroll back to page one...there are a few links that discuss the bankruptcy and civil filings against them. They were going to depose her the next day and supposedly it was going to be brutal.

[KittyMom]

http://www.wesh.com/video/21241792/index.html

Uncut Video: Dr G On Ward Case Autopsy

I LOVE Dr. G :wub:

[Casspian]

I don't understand the financial wheeling and dealings of people like Ward. He has two other houses, yet was letting the 16,000 mtg pmt slide on the Isleworth place and go into foreclosure. Daughter going to college and participating in horse shows, an extremely expensive sport I presume. How did they pay that personal asst woman and continue to live the high life when their home was being forclosed on.

This is going to be another Spector and Jensen, i.e., she committed suicide, but IMO Dr. G made it pretty plain today though. The tattooing of GSR, area and angle of the gunshot wound, eyes open, and IIRC no GSR on her hands.

I don't either! They are broke aren't they? In the one taped jail episode Ward and his daughter are talking about what property to keep, I think in relation to the bankruptcy?

On another note, can anyone verify that Ward was not living with his wife, but had actually been living with his girlfriend for a year or two? I might have missed this in the beginning, but I read it on two or three sites now.

Kitty - thank you for the notice! I'm still reading about the bond hearing.

[Casspian]

http://www.wftv.com/news/21239081/detail.html

Isleworth Murder Suspect Granted $100,000 Bond


Eeeggg ... I hate to say it but I think it's a 50/50 chance he might flee? Maybe I'm wrong, that's was just my gut feeling when I heard they were going to have a hearing.

[Casspian]

Shooting victim Diane Ward's own sister, Paula Saare, took the stand to convince the judge to let Ward out of jail. She works for Ward. She said she and her sister were very close, but admitted to prosecutors Diane was not suicidal, though Ward has said she shot herself and admitted to prosecutors that she called the lead detective and tried to convince him to call it an accident.

“Did you not beg Detective Brian Frost to make this incident an accident, that Mr. Ward was under so much stress to just make it an accident?” a prosecutor asked Saare.

“After he told me what he was charged with,” Saare replied.

The medical examiner testified that the angle of the gunshot was not consistent with suicide or even a struggle with the gun, that Diane Ward was shot at close range from between six and 12 inches away. But the medical examiner could not tell the defense the results of gunpowder tests on Diane's hands.

“If there was a lack of gunshot residue on Diane Ward’s hand then it’s inconsistent with the defense and it is more likely the court would have found that the state was able to meet their burden,” WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said.

Prosecutors objected to such a low bond for a multi-millionaire without exploring his finances, but it stands at $100,000


Weird about the victim's sister? What does she think happened if she thinks it wasn't suicide.

The low bond was the first thing I thought also.

http://www.wftv.com/countybycounty/21239081/detail.html

[KittyMom]

From what I've read Ward has funneled moneys to both of the daughters. Makes me wonder if Paula S might've been the recipent of some of his wealth and it is in her best interests to keep him happy. Such a shame that no one seems to care at all that Diane Ward was killed.

[kelloggirl]

From what I've read Ward has funneled moneys to both of the daughters. Makes me wonder if Paula S might've been the recipent of some of his wealth and it is in her best interests to keep him happy. Such a shame that no one seems to care at all that Diane Ward was killed.

It would not surprise me one bit if it comes out that Ward and Paula are having an affair.

I thought the Anthony's were bad. That video I saw of the jailhouse visit makes them pale in comparison. At least they seemed to care Caylee was gone, if only for about 5 minutes. The daughter was literally gleeful. Full of glee and delight. Literally dancing on her mother's grave. And the less said about the sexually suggestive poses and gestures to HER FATHER, the better.

[KittyMom]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/8/suspected_wife_killer_hopes_to_make_bond.html

Accused Wife Killer Posts Bond

Judge Walter Kominski set bond Thursday. It was posted around 7 p.m.

According to Allen Moore from Orange County Corrections Department, Ward will not be released until after 9 a.m. Friday.

Per conditions of his bond, Ward must surrender his passport, all firearms and can not drink alcohol. He will wear a GPS monitoring device and is not allowed to leave his home from 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. Ward is also required to appear in court.

I hope this judge know what he's doing. I can just see this guy heading for some tropical island.

[KittyMom]

It would not surprise me one bit if it comes out that Ward and Paula are having an affair.

I thought the Anthony's were bad. That video I saw of the jailhouse visit makes them pale in comparison. At least they seemed to care Caylee was gone, if only for about 5 minutes. The daughter was literally gleeful. Full of glee and delight. Literally dancing on her mother's grave. And the less said about the sexually suggestive poses and gestures to HER FATHER, the better.

I've thought the same thing. I mean, her sister is dead and she warns him about what he's saying on tape???

[Pierre]

From what I've read Ward has funneled moneys to both of the daughters. Makes me wonder if Paula S might've been the recipent of some of his wealth and it is in her best interests to keep him happy. Such a shame that no one seems to care at all that Diane Ward was killed.

I heard this morning on AM WDBO radio that paula does work for ward.
Yep those jailhouse video's are something! People KNOW their being recorded but they just cant help themselves.
Must be "ugly coping" ??? discusting if you ask me.
Oh yea, Paula begging LE to make it an accident??? I lean toward affair.

[need2no]

Millionaire developer James "Bob" Ward, accused of shooting his wife to death in their Isleworth mansion, was released from jail today.

Ward walked out of the jail shortly before 10 this morning. He was escorted by a woman who was supposed to hook up his global positioning system ankle bracelet.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-bob-ward-attorney-100809,0,5516655.story

[Casspian]

From what I've read Ward has funneled moneys to both of the daughters. Makes me wonder if Paula S might've been the recipent of some of his wealth and it is in her best interests to keep him happy. Such a shame that no one seems to care at all that Diane Ward was killed.

I had similar thoughts. I don't want to demonize her, but something seems amiss here even if it's that she feels she has to cooperate with him and be nice until the finances are sorted out. If it's something beyond that, maybe we will see. I just can't grasp why she is so publicly supportive of him when he did say in the 911 call that he shot her in addition to her not thinking it was suicide. I guess that is why she was begging for it to be seen as an accident - that could be what Ward told her to explain the 911 call.

[Casspian]

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/10/8/suspected_wife_killer_hopes_to_make_bond.html

Accused Wife Killer Posts Bond


I hope this judge know what he's doing. I can just see this guy heading for some tropical island.

I wouldn't doubt that for a minute, right after he shifts money and does whatever financially. The good thing is that maybe they expect the same so they will be surveilling him beyond what was ordered.

[Pierre]

I wouldn't doubt that for a minute, right after he shifts money and does whatever financially.

Seen how the company's assets were sold in January for 15.6 MILLION!!!

I dont understand for the life of me how his bond was so low.

[browneyes66]

I have known this man personally for about 10 years now. He is capable of doing just what he originally said he did. He is a very talented liar and if these officials don't watch him carefully, he will walk on this one.

He has money, don't let the "bankruptcy" fool you. He has the means to hide it and once this is over and he ditches his creditors, you will see him for what he really is. My question to Mr. Ward is, "Did you not have another bed post handy that you could break off and beat this lady with?" Was the gun the only thing you had?

Maybe the law should look into just why Mrs. Ward wanted to kill herself. Who will take her place, the wonderful Paula or his own daughter? And speaking of Paula, where is Mr. Saare? How safe is he?

[Pierre]

I had similar thoughts. I don't want to demonize her, but something seems amiss here even if it's that she feels she has to cooperate with him and be nice until the finances are sorted out. If it's something beyond that, maybe we will see. I just can't grasp why she is so publicly supportive of him when he did say in the 911 call that he shot her in addition to her not thinking it was suicide. I guess that is why she was begging for it to be seen as an accident - that could be what Ward told her to explain the 911 call.

Begging LE to make it an accident...I want to demonize her.

[Casspian]

Seen how the company's assets were sold in January for 15.6 MILLION!!!

I dont understand for the life of me how his bond was so low.

I don't either... if they didn't have time to research the assets to make it more, then I think this should have been postponed. If he has substantial assets, esp hidden accounts or cash on hand, that makes him not only a greater flight risk, but worthy of a bond much larger. It appears to me as if much of his expensive lifestyle and support of his daughters was in place. Did his defense request such a low bail and if so, what were their reasons? I just have no sympathy for folks that have made and squandered that much money, let alone those who still look like they think they need to have so much even though others have lost (taxpayers?) due to their da*n bankruptcies and such. To me, that's just not the same as some middle class family getting into financial problems because of a some mistake or experiencing hard times. But here we have someone given the benefit of the doubt who not only squandered millions, is keeping up his lifestyle and his daughters, has the go*ads to discuss what house to keep on jail video (he obviously feels he has many options financially?), but who seems to be very happy go lucky in spite of hte fact that he said he shot her! Ack!

[Pierre]

I don't either... if they didn't have time to research the assets to make it more, then I think this should have been postponed. If he has substantial assets, esp hidden accounts or cash on hand, that makes him not only a greater flight risk, but worthy of a bond much larger. It appears to me as if much of his expensive lifestyle and support of his daughters was in place. Did his defense request such a low bail and if so, what were their reasons? I just have no sympathy for folks that have made and squandered that much money, let alone those who still look like they think they need to have so much even though others have lost (taxpayers?) due to their da*n bankruptcies and such. To me, that's just not the same as some middle class family getting into financial problems because of a some mistake or experiencing hard times. But here we have someone given the benefit of the doubt who not only squandered millions, is keeping up his lifestyle and his daughters, has the go*ads to discuss what house to keep on jail video (he obviously feels he has many options financially?), but who seems to be very happy go lucky in spite of hte fact that he said he shot her! Ack!

I listened to the hearing yesterday and the PROS was trying to tell the judge they haven't been able to get to the information about his assets.
They deemed the 100G bond was way too low. I really thought they were going to postphone it to get more info???

[hello its me]

As a matter of fact she talked about how her mother's death put a "little kink" in her other plans. I mean....what??? Not to mention her highly sexual poses (opening her legs, thusting her chest, flicking her tongue). Lord. What a creepy family.

I ran across the jail visitation videos while looking for something Anthony related. Glad I'm not the only one that was shocked by that. No one seems to care that Diane is dead, regardless of the circumstances. No one seems to mourn her loss.

[dgfred]

I have known this man personally for about 10 years now. He is capable of doing just what he originally said he did. He is a very talented liar and if these officials don't watch him carefully, he will walk on this one.

He has money, don't let the "bankruptcy" fool you. He has the means to hide it and once this is over and he ditches his creditors, you will see him for what he really is. My question to Mr. Ward is, "Did you not have another bed post handy that you could break off and beat this lady with?" Was the gun the only thing you had?

Maybe the law should look into just why Mrs. Ward wanted to kill herself. Who will take her place, the wonderful Paula or his own daughter? And speaking of Paula, where is Mr. Saare? How safe is he?



Welcome to the forum. He does seem to be the 'sneaky' type.

[Casspian]

I have known this man personally for about 10 years now. He is capable of doing just what he originally said he did. He is a very talented liar and if these officials don't watch him carefully, he will walk on this one.

He has money, don't let the "bankruptcy" fool you. He has the means to hide it and once this is over and he ditches his creditors, you will see him for what he really is. My question to Mr. Ward is, "Did you not have another bed post handy that you could break off and beat this lady with?" Was the gun the only thing you had?

Maybe the law should look into just why Mrs. Ward wanted to kill herself. Who will take her place, the wonderful Paula or his own daughter? And speaking of Paula, where is Mr. Saare? How safe is he?


I asked this question before. Others were stating that Ward was living with his girlfriend, not his wife. Do you have any idea if this is true?

Thank you for your perspective also.

[Casspian]

Begging LE to make it an accident...I want to demonize her.

Yeah, I suppose I want to also if the truth be told. I'm trying to be objective, but frankly, this case makes it difficult. I'm usually the one who is screaming innocent til proven guilty and be careful of what is assumed till we hear all the facts. They make that difficult though don't they. This is one case, I just can't see but one way. I'm just waiting for the filler on it :sad:

[Casspian]

I listened to the hearing yesterday and the PROS was trying to tell the judge they haven't been able to get to the information about his assets.
They deemed the 100G bond was way too low. I really thought they were going to postphone it to get more info???

That's just not right. Gotta wonder if there are connections with the judge or something?

[Casspian]

As I look back at those tapes again, I have to wonder whether the father/daughter interaction while the sister in law is trying to make a point/talk is simply rude and selfish or if there is some other dynamic going on there. Like competition? Is it dismissive and disrespectful of the sister in law on both their parts? She doesn't seem to see them while she is talking, but I can't tell for sure.

[need2no]

23 pictures of James Ward's 9,000 sq. ft. 3.5 million dollar mansion:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21062643/detail.html

:w00t:

[ddunn6]

As someone who purchased 3 lots in two separate Land Resource communities, I can tell you that we are NOT shocked at any of the news of the past 2-3 weeks. For the past year, we've been crying for someone to pay attention and research, investigate, and apply a little logic as to where all the Land Resource money went. It sure as heck wasn't put back into the communities!! Thoroughbred horses amazingly appearing in Sarah's trust with no dispersement from personal funds should raise a bankruptcy trustee's eyebrows....NOPE - business as usual. If fraud could be proven in Bob Ward's statements in the bankruptcy filing (which is becoming more evident as the bonding company forces investigative measures in their own lawsuit), the protection would be lifted, and those of us left holding the financial bag might be able to seek some type of restitution. Bob Ward called Glen Saare while the police were trying to perform their investigation. Why? Bob repeatedly told Paula to "handle" the money issues while he was jailed, and often referenced "Liz" (the LR bankruptcy attorney) like she was part of the family -- literally. Paula seemed to have intimate insider knowledge of all the bankruptcy inner-workings. Put it together: Diane's death just before the depositions (personal finances), Bob calling Glen Saare instead of an attorney, Paula's careful directions during the jailed conversations, and all of it amidst the final stages of a controversial bankruptcy that's been RUSHED through the system. By the way, let's not forget that Land Resource moved from Atlanta to Orlando just months before filing for bankruptcy, and no one's questoned that move (Florida's bankruptcy-friendly system, maybe???)

I'm sorry Diane Ward's dead and those two girls no longer have their mother....but I'm anxious to see what the media can uncover for the judicial folks who haven't the time or know-how to do it themselves.

[Casspian]

23 pictures of James Ward's 9,000 sq. ft. 3.5 million dollar mansion:

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/21062643/detail.html

:w00t:

It's disgusting he got off with such low bail or had bail set at all

[Casspian]

As someone who purchased 3 lots in two separate Land Resource communities, I can tell you that we are NOT shocked at any of the news of the past 2-3 weeks. For the past year, we've been crying for someone to pay attention and research, investigate, and apply a little logic as to where all the Land Resource money went. It sure as heck wasn't put back into the communities!! Thoroughbred horses amazingly appearing in Sarah's trust with no dispersement from personal funds should raise a bankruptcy trustee's eyebrows....NOPE - business as usual. If fraud could be proven in Bob Ward's statements in the bankruptcy filing (which is becoming more evident as the bonding company forces investigative measures in their own lawsuit), the protection would be lifted, and those of us left holding the financial bag might be able to seek some type of restitution. Bob Ward called Glen Saare while the police were trying to perform their investigation. Why? Bob repeatedly told Paula to "handle" the money issues while he was jailed, and often referenced "Liz" (the LR bankruptcy attorney) like she was part of the family -- literally. Paula seemed to have intimate insider knowledge of all the bankruptcy inner-workings. Put it together: Diane's death just before the depositions (personal finances), Bob calling Glen Saare instead of an attorney, Paula's careful directions during the jailed conversations, and all of it amidst the final stages of a controversial bankruptcy that's been RUSHED through the system. By the way, let's not forget that Land Resource moved from Atlanta to Orlando just months before filing for bankruptcy, and no one's questoned that move (Florida's bankruptcy-friendly system, maybe???)

I'm sorry Diane Ward's dead and those two girls no longer have their mother....but I'm anxious to see what the media can uncover for the judicial folks who haven't the time or know-how to do it themselves.


Thank you for sharing y our personal knowledge and experiences. Is it possible to make anonymous tips (or not anonymous) to the prosecution, IRS, and maybe even media/news sources?

Yes, I think Florida is more bankrupt friendly... I thought I heard you can keep a house worth a lot more money in Florida for one (or something like that). I thought I heard up to $1,000,000 a while back and I'm not sure if that was the total value of the house or what. Also, there are no personal income taxes in Florida.

[Casspian]

ddun6

Bob Ward called Glen Saare while the police were trying to perform their investigation. Why? Bob repeatedly told Paula to "handle" the money issues while he was jailed, and often referenced "Liz" (the LR bankruptcy attorney) like she was part of the family -- literally. Paula seemed to have intimate insider knowledge of all the bankruptcy inner-workings. Put it together: Diane's death just before the depositions (personal finances), Bob calling Glen Saare instead of an attorney, Paula's careful directions during the jailed conversations, and all of it amidst the final stages of a controversial bankruptcy that's been RUSHED through the system.

All of this seems very pertinent to the case. Do Paula and Glen stand to gain financial - or maybe I should ask how much would they gain? It's hard to believe her sister would do this, but then again a lot of people will do immoral things for money. I also wonder if they could get their hands on most of it if he flees. Or would they be hoping he doesn't and gets off the murder charge?

[Joan-Pa.]

Hi, I am new to this case, I happened to see the jail video on some show, and an trying to find out more about this case... where does it stand in the court? Is the trial starting soon, or is it on now?
Is it being televised?
Thanks for any information you can give me..

and why are we always hearing about these wifes of these rich men suddenly being killed.. so far all the cases I have watched on Court tv,/Insession, they all are found quilty and spend their lives in jail. Seems to me divorce would be a better choice.

Thanks again for any info on this case/trial..

[Roux]

Hi, I am new to this case, I happened to see the jail video on some show, and an trying to find out more about this case... where does it stand in the court? Is the trial starting soon, or is it on now?
Is it being televised?
Thanks for any information you can give me..

and why are we always hearing about these wifes of these rich men suddenly being killed.. so far all the cases I have watched on Court tv,/Insession, they all are found quilty and spend their lives in jail. Seems to me divorce would be a better choice.

Thanks again for any info on this case/trial..

Hi Joan, there was a televised bond hearing for Ward last week. Judge let him out on $100,000 bond. IIRC they said something like the case would go to trial early next winter -- maybe January? Just seemed like an awfully quick trial date, but of course will probably be put off anyway.

Regarding the video at the jail, that was on Friday, only after Diane had been killed Monday night. How in the world that daughter and sister could act like is totally beyond my comprehension.

As Dunn posted, you know there's been a lot of underhanded financial transactions and I hope the bankruptcy attys and the prosecution being it all out so people who were duped can get some money back. I wondered if this was not the first time Ward had some land/real estate shenanigans.

IMO this case screams out for a book by Ann Rule!

[Returnfavor]

After being scammed by Bob Ward, his cohorts and family (Paula and Glenn Saare), who continue to fleece property owners through Property Owners Association Fees, it is time that we return the favor by contacting the following agencies who are awaiting any information you might have.

Mr. Leigh Meininger is the attorney that subpoenaed Bob and Diane Ward to provide them with documents and answer questions under oath of how they lived in the lap of luxury with the ill-gotten gains from all the victims of their failed communities. Sadly, Diane Ward never made it for that meeting.

If Mr. Ward happens to get away with murder, second best is that he should, along with his co-conspirators spend 20 or 30 years behind bars. thumbsup:


leigh@meiningerlaw.com
520 E Central Blvd
Orlando, FL 32801-1935
(407) 246-1585

Prosecutor-Robin Wilkinson
rwilkinson@sao9.org

Investigator - Brian Cross
Brian.cross@ocfl.net
407-254-7000





I have known this man personally for about 10 years now. He is capable of doing just what he originally said he did. He is a very talented liar and if these officials don't watch him carefully, he will walk on this one.

He has money, don't let the "bankruptcy" fool you. He has the means to hide it and once this is over and he ditches his creditors, you will see him for what he really is. My question to Mr. Ward is, "Did you not have another bed post handy that you could break off and beat this lady with?" Was the gun the only thing you had?

Maybe the law should look into just why Mrs. Ward wanted to kill herself. Who will take her place, the wonderful Paula or his own daughter? And speaking of Paula, where is Mr. Saare? How safe is he?

[Pierre]

I wonder if the bonding company still has intentions of deposing james ward, and if they even can at this point with the murder charges pending?

[KittyMom]

http://www.ninja9.org/courts/judges/komanski.htm

Circuit Judge Walter Komanski

The judge who decided that 100K was an acceptable amount. :glare:

[KittyMom]

http://courthouseforum.com/forums/results.php?id=150869&jid=11053&judge=150869&list=1&which=judge

Survey Results for Judge Walter Komanski

:scared: OMGosh!!! Check out the comments. Why do I get the feeling this is the reason Ward was smiling so brightly in court.

[KittyMom]

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19961021&id=v8wUAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fwcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6772,3539512

Judge Caught With Porn In Chambers

:scared:

[KittyMom]

http://courtwatchflorida.blogspot.com/2009/10/what-about-diane-ward-isleworth-murder.html

Also on Tuesday, Diane Ward's body was released by the Medical Examiner's office to the Robert Bryant Funeral & Cremation Chapel.


I can't find anything on a funeral or memorial service. Such a shame that no one seems to care for this poor woman. It's like she never existed.

[Roux]

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19961021&id=v8wUAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fwcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6772,3539512

Judge Caught With Porn In Chambers

:scared:

Oh Lordy! Makes me realize how grateful we should be for Judge Strickland.

[Roux]

http://courtwatchflorida.blogspot.com/2009/10/what-about-diane-ward-isleworth-murder.html

Also on Tuesday, Diane Ward's body was released by the Medical Examiner's office to the Robert Bryant Funeral & Cremation Chapel.


I can't find anything on a funeral or memorial service. Such a shame that no one seems to care for this poor woman. It's like she never existed.

That funeral home appears to be in Orlando. I was wondering if they might have services in Rockledge since that is where she was from originally. Though it's none of my business, I would really like to see how her sister and her daughters act at Diane's funeral.

[KittyMom]

That funeral home appears to be in Orlando. I was wondering if they might have services in Rockledge since that is where she was from originally. Though it's none of my business, I would really like to see how her sister and her daughters act at Diane's funeral.

Don't forget James. Will he be the grieving widower or....

[Pierre]

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19961021&id=v8wUAAAAIBAJ&sjid=fwcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6772,3539512

Judge Caught With Porn In Chambers

:scared:
I noticed mark Nejaime had a comment there.

[Roux]

Don't forget James. Will he be the grieving widower or....

Act like Darlie Routier? Now that I think of it, that older daughter kinda reminds me of Darlie.

[need2no]

The family did talk about funeral arrangements for Diane. She will be cremated. They will hold two services for her, one in Atlanta, Ga. and the other in Cocoa, where Diane's mother lives.

http://www.cfnews13.com/News/Local/2009/9/26/daughter_cheerful_during_ward39s_jailhouse_visit.h tml
(September 28, 2009)

Hopefully justice will be served.

:rose: RIP Diane. :rose:

[need2no]

Documents: Isleworth Murder Suspect Smiled, Sighed

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Documents were released late Tuesday morning in the case of the Isleworth man accused of murdering his wife (read them all). The documents show Bob Ward was in an upbeat mood and very relaxed when detectives talked to him at the Orange County Sheriff's Office headquarters on the night his wife, Diane, was shot and killed.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21349291/detail.html

[Pierre]

I wonder what the results of the GSR test are. I find it amazing LE let him go to the bathroom berfore the test, but told him not to wash his hands????

[kakax]

Documents: Isleworth Murder Suspect Smiled, Sighed

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Documents were released late Tuesday morning in the case of the Isleworth man accused of murdering his wife (read them all). The documents show Bob Ward was in an upbeat mood and very relaxed when detectives talked to him at the Orange County Sheriff's Office headquarters on the night his wife, Diane, was shot and killed.

http://www.wftv.com/news/21349291/detail.html



I haven't read the documents yet but it does clarify that he had an ex girlfriend who claims he was abusive and he contacted her to go to lunch recently. So sounds like he wasn't, at the time, living with her.

[kakax]

Well, "Bob" Ward is going to have some explaining to do. She was in mid to full rigor. She was there for longer than 5 minutes. It doesn't say if lividity was set, but I'm fairly certain that livdity doesn't happen in 5 minutes.

[kakax]

Almost 3 bottles of wine were drunk. Wow...I'm not a heavy drinker but I drink occassionally. 1 bottle to myself of red wine and I would be staggering something fierce.

[kakax]

http://www.deathonline.net/decomposition/body_changes/rigor_mortis.htm

From this article...

Rigor mortis refers to the state of a body after death, in which the muscles become stiff. It commences after around 3 hours, reaching maximum stiffness after 12 hours, and gradually dissipates until approximately 72 hours after death.


It stated in the medical examiners report that she was in mid/full rigor.

5 minutes earlier he supposedly shot her and then called 911.

Bob's timeframe isn't going to work, IMO.

[kakax]

Livor mortis starts 20 minutes to 3 hours after death and is congealed in the capillaries in 4 to 5 hours. Maximum lividity occurs within 6-12 hours. The blood pools into the interstitial tissues of the body.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Livor_mortis

[Marcia3]

Looks like Ward is trying to sell something, but looks like LE isn't buying it:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568724,00.html?loomia_ow=t0:s0:a4:g4:r8:c0. 000000:b0:z5

From the link:

"Ms. Saare stated that James Ward was under a great deal of stress," Cross wrote. "I explained to her that the investigation shows that her sister did not die as a result of an accident."

[Roux]

This will be an interesting trial as his defense attorneys try to spin the suicide theory. Dr. G was very convincing at the bond hearing that it could not be suicide, now with the disclosure of the livor mortis evidence, he's toast IMO.

[kakax]

This will be an interesting trial as his defense attorneys try to spin the suicide theory. Dr. G was very convincing at the bond hearing that it could not be suicide, now with the disclosure of the livor mortis evidence, he's toast IMO.

ITA...he isn't going to get very far with this defense. Bob was the one screaming he should put a bullet in his own head. I'm thinking he just decided the bullet would be better in his wife's. :(

[Returnfavor]

Glenn Saare, Paula Saare's husband and President of the Board of Directors of Cumberland Harbour was fired along with Stan Smith, Richard Faulhaber, Samuel Lindsay,Benjamin Pingree, Brian Timberlake and William Whitlock. They'r dismissal was "effective immediately" on October 27, 2009.

All Board members were appointed by Bob Ward, now charged with the murder of his wife, Paula Saare's sister. Before being appointed to the Board of Directors of Cumberland Harbour by "Bloody Bob" all Board Members had to sign a confidentiality agreement to withhold information from property owners until they announced it themselves.

Hundreds of property owners are enraged and left in the dark as to how our money is spent. They have been demanding an audit for over 1 1/2 years from the Board but as of today, we have not recceived one.

That will soon change now that we have an ethical, honest, responsible board where all property owners fees will go toward our community, Cumberland Harbour.

"Praise the Lord"









After being scammed by Bob Ward, his cohorts and family (Paula and Glenn Saare), who continue to fleece property owners through Property Owners Association Fees, it is time that we return the favor by contacting the following agencies who are awaiting any information you might have.

Mr. Leigh Meininger is the attorney that subpoenaed Bob and Diane Ward to provide them with documents and answer questions under oath of how they lived in the lap of luxury with the ill-gotten gains from all the victims of their failed communities. Sadly, Diane Ward never made it for that meeting.

If Mr. Ward happens to get away with murder, second best is that he should, along with his co-conspirators spend 20 or 30 years behind bars. thumbsup:


leigh@meiningerlaw.com
520 E Central Blvd
Orlando, FL 32801-1935
(407) 246-1585

Prosecutor-Robin Wilkinson
rwilkinson@sao9.org

Investigator - Brian Cross
Brian.cross@ocfl.net
407-254-7000

[Casspian]

Good! I'm happy for you, what a nightmare.

[Returnfavor]

Thank you Casspian, we are all thrilled by the recent events.

It was a long hard road, but through a lot hard work and perserverance we now have a Board of Directors that represent the ALL Property Owners.

Bob Ward, his family members (Paula and Glenn Saare) and associates (Don Robertson, et al. ) have destroyed our community through their lecherous greed.

It is a new day for everyone in Cumberland Harbour and all are working toward rebuilding a community without Bob Ward.

Again, thanks for your support.



Good! I'm happy for you, what a nightmare.

[Casspian]

I'm so glad to hear his sister in law and her husband are off of there! Now, let's see if she has any motivation to support him. Maybe the daughter can give up her horses also.

[Marrigan]

http://www.ninja9.org/courts/judges/komanski.htm

Circuit Judge Walter Komanski

The judge who decided that 100K was an acceptable amount. :glare:


Wow. I didn't know about this website, so I'm happy to have learned something new today. Thank you very much!

[Marrigan]

I'm very happy to read this great news! Send a tip to the Orlando Sentinel. It is unbelievable that there has been NO news about Ward since he was released on bond. For example, since funeral services for Diane were going to be held in Atlanta (and Cocoa Beach), I'm wondering if Ward got permission to leave the state. There seems to be a news blackout on this case.

And FWIW, Paula Saare has re-written the definition of "relatives from hell".

Glenn Saare, Paula Saare's husband and President of the Board of Directors of Cumberland Harbour was fired along with Stan Smith, Richard Faulhaber, Samuel Lindsay,Benjamin Pingree, Brian Timberlake and William Whitlock. They'r dismissal was "effective immediately" on October 27, 2009.

All Board members were appointed by Bob Ward, now charged with the murder of his wife, Paula Saare's sister. Before being appointed to the Board of Directors of Cumberland Harbour by "Bloody Bob" all Board Members had to sign a confidentiality agreement to withhold information from property owners until they announced it themselves.

Hundreds of property owners are enraged and left in the dark as to how our money is spent. They have been demanding an audit for over 1 1/2 years from the Board but as of today, we have not recceived one.

That will soon change now that we have an ethical, honest, responsible board where all property owners fees will go toward our community, Cumberland Harbour.

"Praise the Lord"

[ddunn6]

I'm wondering why there have been no charges brought against Liz Greene (Ward's bankruptcy attorney) for obstruction of justice in "stealing" Ward's Blackberry when she first visited Ward in jail. She informed the officials that she was taking his watch and cash, but failed to mention the Blackberry she swiped from right under their noses. They've requested she return it, but she has refused up to this point. Last I heard they were filing a court order, but I still think charges should be filed for the interference she caused.

Also, why haven't we heard anything about the scheduled depositions resuming? Many of us have legal actions pending the outcome of the findings from those personal financial records. Diane's death, no matter how tragic, should not deter the pursuit of those records and Bob Ward's responsibility in orchestrating the wiley dispursement of Land Resource funds into personal coffers.

Waiting for more news on this one.....Everything seems to have come to a screeching halt once he got out on bond.

[Roux]

I keep checking our thread here to see if any news, and appreciate the posts. Sure hope the legal wheels keep turning for Ward's financial victims, as well as Diane.

[Returnfavor]

After Bob Ward shot Paula Saare's sister in the face, Paula comforts Bob during her jailhouse visit with these words.

“I didn’t expect you to look this good, you really do.”
“You’re clear thinking, you’re focused.”

Yep, these are the words of a grieving sister.

The way Paula was "kissing up" to Bob Ward is disgusting!


What shocks me is that at no time did I see a 'tear" shed by Bob, Paula, or the daughters. Oh, I forgot, they were trying to cheer him up!







I'm very happy to read this great news! Send a tip to the Orlando Sentinel. It is unbelievable that there has been NO news about Ward since he was released on bond. For example, since funeral services for Diane were going to be held in Atlanta (and Cocoa Beach), I'm wondering if Ward got permission to leave the state. There seems to be a news blackout on this case.

And FWIW, Paula Saare has re-written the definition of "relatives from hell".

[kelloggirl]

I'm wondering why there have been no charges brought against Liz Greene (Ward's bankruptcy attorney) for obstruction of justice in "stealing" Ward's Blackberry when she first visited Ward in jail. She informed the officials that she was taking his watch and cash, but failed to mention the Blackberry she swiped from right under their noses. They've requested she return it, but she has refused up to this point. Last I heard they were filing a court order, but I still think charges should be filed for the interference she caused.

Also, why haven't we heard anything about the scheduled depositions resuming? Many of us have legal actions pending the outcome of the findings from those personal financial records. Diane's death, no matter how tragic, should not deter the pursuit of those records and Bob Ward's responsibility in orchestrating the wiley dispursement of Land Resource funds into personal coffers.

Waiting for more news on this one.....Everything seems to have come to a screeching halt once he got out on bond.

I think it behooves the victims of Ward's theft to raise hell to the media about the swindle job he pulled. There is something very disconcerting about the silence and special privileges Ward seems to be enjoying. Letters to the Editor? Or contacting the writers of the articles and asking if there is any news? For all anyone knows, Ward has slipped the confines of his place and is off enjoying a cocktail in South America with all the money he stole.

And words cannot express the disgust I have for the sister and daughter of the poor victim, Diane. It is clear that their greed and whatever sick ties they have to Ward far outweigh any care they ever had for Diane, if they did, which seems hard to believe that any relative could be so cold-hearted as to only care about the murderer.

[Kateyes]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/photo/2009-10/49744500.jpg

Was this the last thing Diane saw as her husband stood in front of her with a gun aimed in her face?

:scared:

Thanks for posting that pic. I moved away from Orlando in May of 2008after living there for 21 years. There are so many crimes occurring there now I haven't followed this one partly because of being dismayed over another sensational crime from the city I love, and also because of so very little about it in the media. The picture you posted tells me this guy thinks he stands outside the law, and that he believes he will get away with this. As with some other posters I definitely see correlations to the Anthony family...

[ddunn6]

"Forced to get a court order to gain possession of the Blackberry, prosecutors attained one, and Greene handed over Ward's smart phone on Monday, according to Chan Muller, Green's attorney."

This excerpt is from an obscure article that was published back on Oct 20th. Link to the brief, but informative article:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-bob-ward-isleworth-shooting-102009,0,4564486.story

Please accept my apologies for previously voicing my concerns on this topic - I had not been able to find anything on the subject until today. I still think Liz Greene knew what she was doing when she took that Blackberry out of the interrogation facility!

Deb

[Pierre]

"Forced to get a court order to gain possession of the Blackberry, prosecutors attained one, and Greene handed over Ward's smart phone on Monday, according to Chan Muller, Green's attorney."

This excerpt is from an obscure article that was published back on Oct 20th. Link to the brief, but informative article:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-bob-ward-isleworth-shooting-102009,0,4564486.story

Please accept my apologies for previously voicing my concerns on this topic - I had not been able to find anything on the subject until today. I still think Liz Greene knew what she was doing when she took that Blackberry out of the interrogation facility!

Deb

If Liz green altered numbers or deleted info, will LE know this?

[Returnfavor]

It did not surprise me when I heard that Liz Green and her husband swiped Bob Ward's blackberry from under the noses of the police and investigator. Bob Ward is a corrupt dispicable human being and has to hire people who are just as corrupt as he is. Yes, as Paula Saare stated to Bob Ward during her jailhouse visit, " Your're clear thinking, you're focused."



I think it behooves the victims of Ward's theft to raise hell to the media about the swindle job he pulled. There is something very disconcerting about the silence and special privileges Ward seems to be enjoying. Letters to the Editor? Or contacting the writers of the articles and asking if there is any news? For all anyone knows, Ward has slipped the confines of his place and is off enjoying a cocktail in South America with all the money he stole.

And words cannot express the disgust I have for the sister and daughter of the poor victim, Diane. It is clear that their greed and whatever sick ties they have to Ward far outweigh any care they ever had for Diane, if they did, which seems hard to believe that any relative could be so cold-hearted as to only care about the murderer.

[Returnfavor]

New Update:

AIMS, the management company overseeing Cumberland Harbour has been FIRED! They never filed with the State of Georgia and are not licensed to do business or act as a management company in the State of Georgia.

The new Board has been in communications with management companies licensed in Georgia and have found that their fees are so much lower than AIMS.

Also I might add, the New Board is posting updates of their minutes of every meeting on their blog every week to all Property Owners. That's some revelation!

Since Bob Ward and his relatives had their fingers in everything, I'm sure there is a lot more to uncover. As for now the property owners are estatice over the recent firings of the former Board and AIMS.








Thank you Casspian, we are all thrilled by the recent events.

It was a long hard road, but through a lot hard work and perserverance we now have a Board of Directors that represent the ALL Property Owners.

Bob Ward, his family members (Paula and Glenn Saare) and associates (Don Robertson, et al. ) have destroyed our community through their lecherous greed.

It is a new day for everyone in Cumberland Harbour and all are working toward rebuilding a community without Bob Ward.

Again, thanks for your support.

[Casspian]

New Update:

AIMS, the management company overseeing Cumberland Harbour has been FIRED! They never filed with the State of Georgia and are not licensed to do business or act as a management company in the State of Georgia.

The new Board has been in communications with management companies licensed in Georgia and have found that their fees are so much lower than AIMS.

Also I might add, the New Board is posting updates of their minutes of every meeting on their blog every week to all Property Owners. That's some revelation!

Since Bob Ward and his relatives had their fingers in everything, I'm sure there is a lot more to uncover. As for now the property owners are estatice over the recent firings of the former Board and AIMS.


Sounds like another positive step forward for Ward's et al. financial victims!

[Returnfavor]

Another News Update: The Georgia Real Estate Commission has put a "Cease and Desist Order" against AIMS which prohibits them from managing any property in the State of Georgia!

Again, thanks to our New Board for being so thorough and efficient by eliminating these people!!!!!







Sounds like another positive step forward for Ward's et al. financial victims!