Sunday Sept 27...HaLeigh

[Survivor]

Good morning one and all. Hoping for answers today that will bring HaLeigh home. Light a candle if you choose to.

http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=HAMC

[Survivor]

It appears to have been a fairly quiet weekend news wise. Nothing that I'm aware of regarding that "volitile" tip. Any pond searches going on? IIRC, the sherrif said there would be more searches in other pond(s)? I will find that link...if it exists at all.

[just4justice]

Good morning, Survivor. Thanks for the new thread. I was away yesterday and was so hoping to sign on and see Haleigh had been found. When I think of how agonizing it has been for those of us who post here I can't imagine how horrid it must be for the families. I wish I could be optimistic and believe she will be found alive, but at this point I don't see even a remote possibility. It's been way too long and there are too many rumors to the contrary. The letters of this past week are a pretty good indication that she died on 2/9/09. Also, with the rumors floating around about Ron and Misty not talking gives rise to the possibility of Misty being arrested very soon. If indeed it was an overdose, Misty is guilty of neglect at the very least. When TN spoke of Ron crying to himself when all alone at night it occurred to me how truly heartless Misty must be. How could she live with him day in and day out and not be compelled to reveal what really happened? I understand self-preservation, but she must realize that sooner or later it's all going to come tumbling down on her. Get it over with, Misty!! Tell all and let the chips fall where they may!!! Haleigh needs to rest in peace!!!

[Survivor]

quote from link:

"He would not say what evidence investigators hoped to find. He said he expects the department to conduct another search next weekend."


http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-09-21/story/no_evidence_found_in_pond_searched_in_haleigh_case

[Survivor]

Good morning, Survivor. Thanks for the new thread. I was away yesterday and was so hoping to sign on and see Haleigh had been found. When I think of how agonizing it has been for those of us who post here I can't imagine how horrid it must be for the families. I wish I could be optimistic and believe she will be found alive, but at this point I don't see even a remote possibility. It's been way too long and there are too many rumors to the contrary. The letters of this past week are a pretty good indication that she died on 2/9/09. Also, with the rumors floating around about Ron and Misty not talking gives rise to the possibility of Misty being arrested very soon. If indeed it was an overdose, Misty is guilty of neglect at the very least. When TN spoke of Ron crying to himself when all alone at night it occurred to me how truly heartless Misty must be. How could she live with him day in and day out and not be compelled to reveal what really happened? I understand self-preservation, but she must realize that sooner or later it's all going to come tumbling down on her. Get it over with, Misty!! Tell all and let the chips fall where they may!!! Haleigh needs to rest in peace!!!

BBM

Morning just4. Until I heard of the Smart and Dugard cases, I too would be thinking she's gone forever. In HaLeigh's case now, because of the other two miracles, I HAVE to hold out hope. I may be just prolonging the inevitable, but I still hope and pray for a live HaLeigh. Thurs evening, when the mystery lady dropped off that new and possibly "volatile" tip, my hopes soared! By last night, I no longer believe that it is relevant. The ups and downs for those who truly loved this little girl, must be so very hard to take.

[RayStar]

I hope Haleigh is found alive also. I wonder what the letter holds that will bring her home safe and soon.

[FrankieBones1]

It appears to have been a fairly quiet weekend news wise. Nothing that I'm aware of regarding that "volitile" tip. Any pond searches going on? IIRC, the sherrif said there would be more searches in other pond(s)? I will find that link...if it exists at all.
Good Morning, everyone and thanks for the new thread, Survivor.
The media has been quiet this weekend about any searches. Even the cable news type shows are showing reruns.

[Kathlb]

Good morning all,

So it's been so quiet since the letter was taken to LE are we to assume that it didn't pan out for finding Haleigh? We knew that they searched around the mobile home where Ron lived when she went missing, and no news. :-(

[Kathlb]

*respectful snip*

Also, with the rumors floating around about Ron and Misty not talking gives rise to the possibility of Misty being arrested very soon. If indeed it was an overdose, Misty is guilty of neglect at the very least. When TN spoke of Ron crying to himself when all alone at night it occurred to me how truly heartless Misty must be. How could she live with him day in and day out and not be compelled to reveal what really happened? I understand self-preservation, but she must realize that sooner or later it's all going to come tumbling down on her. Get it over with, Misty!! Tell all and let the chips fall where they may!!! Haleigh needs to rest in peace!!!

It doesn't look to me like Misty will be coming back anytime soon. She might, but I doubt it. I'm just glad that LE knows where she is and is watching her. MOO

[Survivor]

Good Morning, everyone and thanks for the new thread, Survivor.
The media has been quiet this weekend about any searches. Even the cable news type shows are showing reruns.


Jeeze, don't they know we are waiting??? lol After hearing about that explosive tip Thurs/Fri, I cancelled all my weekend plans and remained on "standby" mode! I think the "explosion" fizzled out. I hope I am wrong of course, but the silence from the media and LE is deafening.<sigh>

[panman]

Bringing this post over. IMO, it is right on.

I see your points Adalena. The problem is when you start discussing Ron's "cons"...someone can come up with Crystal's cons.

I hated the wedding. I hate the fact that Crystal didn't step up and FIGHT for custody this time, especially after the abuse allegations. I didn't appreciate Ron calling Misty B*&ch. I didn't appreciate Crystal referring to Haleigh and JR as the brats. I don't like that Ron did drugs. I don't like that Crystal did drugs. I don't like that Marie did and sold drugs. I don't like that TN has a record for trespassing. I don't like that Misty's family has problems with the law. I don't like that Crystal's husband had a PO against him. There is so much more.

These people aren't the Brady Bunch (but they were a bit dysfunctional as well....I mean Alice the maid and Sam the butcher), but they are people living their lives and someone they love is missing. Do I think Ron or Crysal did something to this child? No. IMO

Good Sunday morning everyone. Time to come home Haleigh.

[just4justice]

I pray everyday for Haleigh to be found alive. Sadly, it's hard to still be optimistic. LE probably has more than they are releasing, but I'm not too optimistic about them either. Misty is in Orlando and Ron is in Waleka - I don't believe it's because of a fight. I believe her lawyer knows plenty about what happened and has advised her to be away from the Satsuma area because an arrest is imminent. I sure wouldn't want to be in that home when an arrest warrant is served. Can you imagine?
I could be completely wrong (probably am), but TJH and AH thinking the case will break soon leads me to believe I could be right.

[FrankieBones1]

Jeeze, don't they know we are waiting??? lol After hearing about that explosive tip Thurs/Fri, I cancelled all my weekend plans and remained on "standby" mode! I think the "explosion" fizzled out. I hope I am wrong of course, but the silence from the media and LE is deafening.<sigh>

Was it Prior that used the term 'volatile' or was it used by someone in LE?

[Motomom]

I had high hopes about this "tip".. I'm really a bit disappointed now.. I had alot of hope for Haleigh this week/weekend. Was actually thinking that she may have been alive somewhere, now that hope is starting to dwindle again. Come home Haleigh. I can't imagine how her mother and father deal with the ups and downs of this.

So far I take it Misty is not back yet? Interesting, hopefully LE will have enough on her eventually to arrest her and whoever she is with.. I hope they are questioned, who knows what secrets Misty may tell..

[Survivor]

Was it Prior that used the term 'volatile' or was it used by someone in LE?

It was Prior according to the link:


http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=145604&catid=3

[?noanswer]

Was it Prior that used the term 'volatile' or was it used by someone in LE?

IIRC, it was Prior. I think he said something like "If the information is accurate, it's going to be pretty volatile,". JMO

[tia marie]

Is anyone has curious as I am, as to how Misty is supporting herself these days?

[Survivor]

Is anyone has curious as I am, as to how Misty is supporting herself these days?

Yes, I wonder how any of the main characters are "getting by". We now know how her mom and bro were "allegedly" supplementing! As for Misty or Ron, I really don't know. Social assistance maybe? Would sure like to know.

[Lurken]

Was it Prior that used the term 'volatile' or was it used by someone in LE?

Prior, IIRC.

Morning all! Candle lit.

[?noanswer]

Is anyone has curious as I am, as to how Misty is supporting herself these days?


I have never given it a thought. But now that you mention it, seems she has been taking care of herself for quite some time. Although at this time, she is totally away from her family support, whatever that might have been. I don't know how many "friends" she has left. If the reports are correct she is with a friend so guess that friend is taking care of her needs. At one time LP said he would pay for her to go to Cananda. Maybe he is contributing to her support. Who knows. No telling where she really is either. JMO

[tia marie]

Yes, I wonder how any of the main characters are "getting by". We now know how her mom and bro were "allegedly" supplementing! As for Misty or Ron, I really don't know. Social assistance maybe? Would sure like to know.

I'm wondering more about Misty being on the road and all. She can't be sleeping in the car. There's expenses traveling on the road, and then there's her smokes.

[tia marie]

I have never given it a thought. But now that you mention it, seems she has been taking care of herself for quite some time. Although at this time, she is totally away from her family support, whatever that might have been. I don't know how many "friends" she has left. If the reports are correct she is with a friend so guess that friend is taking care of her needs. At one time LP said he would pay for her to go to Cananda. Maybe he is contributing to her support. Who knows. No telling where she really is either. JMO

Any idea who this friend might be?

[dustyk]

IMO whenever the heat is on Ronald he does something to get the heat off. He married her when he was questioned about her age and now the heat is on because he is still with her after LE says she knows something. That kissing video says it all, she didn't leave after a fight, he sent her away so LE will quit wondering why he is backing her.JMO

[Diamond1]

IMO whenever the heat is on Ronald he does something to get the heat off. He married her when he was questioned about her age and now the heat is on because he is still with her after LE says she knows something. That kissing video says it all, she didn't leave after a fight, he sent her away so LE will quit wondering why he is backing her.JMO

I agree. It is just more Ronald Cummings smoke and lies.

[Survivor]

I have never given it a thought. But now that you mention it, seems she has been taking care of herself for quite some time. Although at this time, she is totally away from her family support, whatever that might have been. I don't know how many "friends" she has left. If the reports are correct she is with a friend so guess that friend is taking care of her needs. At one time LP said he would pay for her to go to Cananda. Maybe he is contributing to her support. Who knows. No telling where she really is either. JMO


I've often wondered just why Padilla chose Canada, as a place to take her. IMO, he must think that she is 100% guilty in the disappearance and possible demise of HaLeigh. Canada would not allow her extradition back to Florida, should a felony murder #1 charge be laid against her. Canada does not have the death penalty and would only agree to return her if the DP were taken out of the equation. MOO

[HouseOfClark]

I've often wondered just why Padilla chose Canada, as a place to take her. IMO, he must think that she is 100% guilty in the disappearance and possible demise of HaLeigh. Canada would not allow her extradition back to Florida, should a felony murder #1 charge be laid against her. Canada does not have the death penalty and would only agree to return her if the DP were taken out of the equation. MOO

It is my understanding that she wouldn't face the death penalty anyway as she was (and still is) a minor.

JMO

[CFMom]

IMO whenever the heat is on Ronald he does something to get the heat off. He married her when he was questioned about her age and now the heat is on because he is still with her after LE says she knows something. That kissing video says it all, she didn't leave after a fight, he sent her away so LE will quit wondering why he is backing her.JMO

I disagree...JMO

[Survivor]

It is my understanding that she wouldn't face the death penalty anyway as she was (and still is) a minor.

JMO

Quite true HOC. I sometimes forget that lil fact as at times she seems older than her actual years, being married and all (tongue in cheek). I for one miss the smilies.

[Peaches]

I don't mean to sound like a B*...because I really feel bad for Ron and seeing him on NG breaks my heart...but there's no reason Ron should be getting government assistance, he is able-bodied and no reason he can't work. The same goes for Crystal and Misty and all the other 'adults' in this case. A missing child is a tragedy, but after 8 months, Ron could return to work. I have worked w/ people whose children have died, spouse died, etc and they returned to work in a few weeks at the most.. Actually, I would imagine welcoming anything to distract my mind...working might bring Ron some peace. JMO

PS- Are some of them still living in "tents"? NG mentioned it the other night.

No one that I know are living in tents.

And...............please provide me a link that says that Ronald, Crystal or Misty are receiving government assistance.

It was my understanding that Ronald is receiving unemployment. Did our president have that extended??????? I think so.

All moo

[Survivor]

I don't mean to sound like a B*...because I really feel bad for Ron and seeing him on NG breaks my heart...but there's no reason Ron should be getting government assistance, he is able-bodied and no reason he can't work. The same goes for Crystal and Misty and all the other 'adults' in this case. A missing child is a tragedy, but after 8 months, Ron could return to work. I have worked w/ people whose children have died, spouse died, etc and they returned to work in a few weeks at the most.. Actually, I would imagine welcoming anything to distract my mind...working might bring Ron some peace. JMO

PS- Are some of them still living in "tents"? NG mentioned it the other night.

Abbie, I think you better read my post again. Another poster asked how Misty was supporting herself. As we ALL are aware, neither Ron nor Misty works. They never seem to be doing without, therefore income MUST be coming from somewhere. I suggested perhaps SA, and immediately followed that by saying...I don't know with a question mark. I agree 100% that they are all FIT and ABLE to work and should NOT be getting state assistance. What is your opinion are where their cas flow is coming from???...not to sound like a B.

[Diamond1]

No one that I know are living in tents.

And...............please provide me a link that says that Ronald, Crystal or Misty are receiving government assistance.

It was my understanding that Ronald is receiving unemployment. Did our president have that extended??????? I think so.

All moo

People that are terminated for cause as he was do not qualify for unemployment.

[KatieLady]

People that are terminated for cause as he was do not qualify for unemployment.

That is my understanding as well. I would guess that they are living with GGS rent free? And TN is employed (last I heard) so I would imagine she is helping out??

IMO

[KatieLady]

The smilies are back on, I'm sorry I did not know they were OFF, no one reported it and I have no idea who did it. I will check tho but just for my own info as I see this is only forum that was not allowed. I have a suspicion it was done by accident.

Next time let me know at once so I check who or why or if a mistake.
Thanks.

Thanks CW....I sure did miss them :biggrin:

[Peaches]

People that are terminated for cause as he was do not qualify for unemployment.


Wrong...........he is drawing unemployment.

His attorney got this for him AND a lawsuit is pending for his firing.

moo

[KatieLady]

Wrong...........he is drawing unemployment.

His attorney got this for him AND a lawsuit is pending for his firing.

moo

Is there a link to this Peaches? First I have heard about it. TIA

[Diamond1]

Wrong...........he is drawing unemployment.

His attorney got this for him AND a lawsuit is pending for his firing.

moo

Do you have a link or confirmation? I have not heard that. The last information I read was he was terminated for cause...no call no show per employer.
mo

[Acey]

Bringing this post over. IMO, it is right on.

(See Quote in Post 11)

Good Sunday morning everyone. Time to come home Haleigh.

Good Morning Everyone.

I don't know how to do a quote within a quote so included reference in blue above. The quote pretty much sums up how I feel.

I'm not giving up hope that HaLeigh will be returned to her family, alive and well, very soon.

[Peaches]

No because regardless I don't believe it'll solve the case.


ITA.............unless some poster here is helping support any of these players...........it is none of their business..............My strong opinion.

[Acey]

Is anyone has curious as I am, as to how Misty is supporting herself these days?

Hadn't thought about that at all. I'm here for HaLeigh and I don't think knowing how Misty is currently supporting herself will help find HaLeigh.

[W_D_1]

People that are terminated for cause as he was do not qualify for unemployment.



That is not necessarily true. The DOL will look at the cause in determining eligibility.

Had Ron not shown up for work because he didn't have transportation or because he didn't have a babysitter he wouldn't get it. The fact that Ron's child disappeared would explain why he wasn't at work and IMO would qualify him for unemployment.

[KatieLady]

Hadn't thought about that at all. I'm here for HaLeigh and I don't think knowing how Misty is currently supporting herself will help find HaLeigh.

You never know...could be a player in all of this we know nothing about. Not saying it is....but could be.

IMO

[KatieLady]

How did you guys even find out she's missing in action (so to speak) and is it even accurate information?

Just going by what has been reported in the media IMO

[Diamond1]

That is not necessarily true. The DOL will look at the cause in determining eligibility.

Had Ron not shown up for work because he didn't have transportation or because he didn't have a babysitter he wouldn't get it. The fact that Ron's child disappeared would explain why he wasn't at work and IMO would qualify him for unemployment.

Perhaps, IF he was terminated for not calling as reported. I think there is more to it than that.

Also, he had not completed the 90 day probationary period so he could be terminated with or without cause based on that.

AND to draw unemployment a person must have 4 quarters of previous employment which Ron did not have.
MO

[Survivor]

The smilies are back on, I'm sorry I did not know they were OFF, no one reported it and I have no idea who did it. I will check tho but just for my own info as I see this is only forum that was not allowed. I have a suspicion it was done by accident.

Next time let me know at once so I check who or why or if a mistake.
Thanks.


I did send a quick note to you on Fri, immediately after they went poof! Glad they are back TY!


09-25-2009, 10:58 AM
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Did Misty make it back home yesterday as stated she was suppose to bt TN? I see nothing in our links page as yet so just asking. TIA

ETA

CW? Do you know what has happened to the icons to the right of our board? TIA

[CANDYKISSES]

Snipped for response.

AND to draw unemployment a person must have 4 quarters of previous employment which Ron did not have.
MO

Do you have a credible link for that Diamond? :bored:

[W_D_1]

Perhaps, IF he was terminated for not calling as reported. I think there is more to it than that.

Also, he had not completed the 90 day probationary period so he could be terminated with or without cause based on that.

AND to draw unemployment a person must have 4 quarters of previous employment which Ron did not have.
MO


Please provide proof of this claim once and for all.

[KatieLady]

Do you have a credible link for that Diamond? :bored:

I'm still waiting on a link from Peaches that Ron is collecting and has a lawsuit pending against his employer. If she has that, this will be a moot point IMO :biggrin:

[Justice4all]

The smilies are back on, I'm sorry I did not know they were OFF, no one reported it and I have no idea who did it. I will check tho but just for my own info as I see this is only forum that was not allowed. I have a suspicion it was done by accident.

Next time let me know at once so I check who or why or if a mistake.
Thanks.

Actually i did report a post on another thread for cussing and all that and i said hey by the way what happen to the smilies on the Haleigh thread. Maybe you didn't see that. Anyways good to have our smilies back.TY

[Chica]

Good morning, Survivor. Thanks for the new thread. I was away yesterday and was so hoping to sign on and see Haleigh had been found. When I think of how agonizing it has been for those of us who post here I can't imagine how horrid it must be for the families. I wish I could be optimistic and believe she will be found alive, but at this point I don't see even a remote possibility. It's been way too long and there are too many rumors to the contrary. The letters of this past week are a pretty good indication that she died on 2/9/09. Also, with the rumors floating around about Ron and Misty not talking gives rise to the possibility of Misty being arrested very soon. If indeed it was an overdose, Misty is guilty of neglect at the very least. When TN spoke of Ron crying to himself when all alone at night it occurred to me how truly heartless Misty must be. How could she live with him day in and day out and not be compelled to reveal what really happened? I understand self-preservation, but she must realize that sooner or later it's all going to come tumbling down on her. Get it over with, Misty!! Tell all and let the chips fall where they may!!! Haleigh needs to rest in peace!!!

I so agree with every word. I cannot imagine the resolve Misty must have to see Ron in such pain and not want to comfort him with the truth. I know she is a survivor, but to let him live all these days in such pain, I cannot understand. I feel Misty loves Ron, but her definition of love is warped. She doesn't want to lose him no matter what, and that is not love.

[Justice4all]

Didn't Ron say at one time he had managed to save some money for a down payment on a house?

Perhaps he is living on that and the child support money he finally got from Crystal.

It shouldn't be too expensive to share expenses with GGS.

MOO

Why are people so upset Ron doesn't have a job but are slap happy Crystal doesn't have one? :blink:

[Diamond1]

Please provide proof of this claim once and for all.

The qualifications to draw unemployment are list on the DOL website. Ron had not completed the 90 day probationary period at PDM. 90 days is one quarter. 4 quarters is a year. He did not work a year at PDM so he is not drawing unemployment off PDM's account. There has not been any employment prior to PDM proven. MO

[Diamond1]

I'm still waiting on a link from Peaches that Ron is collecting and has a lawsuit pending against his employer. If she has that, this will be a moot point IMO :biggrin:

I am waiting for that link, too.

[Chica]

Perhaps, IF he was terminated for not calling as reported. I think there is more to it than that.

Also, he had not completed the 90 day probationary period so he could be terminated with or without cause based on that.

AND to draw unemployment a person must have 4 quarters of previous employment which Ron did not have.
MO

Where have you gotten this information from?

[Brattnt]

I'm still waiting on a link from Peaches that Ron is collecting and has a lawsuit pending against his employer. If she has that, this will be a moot point IMO :biggrin:

Mornin Katie!...He would also have to be actively seeking work in order to draw unemployment....

[W_D_1]

The qualifications to draw unemployment are list on the DOL website. Ron had not completed the 90 day probationary period at PDM. 90 days is one quarter. 4 quarters is a year. He did not work a year at PDM so he is not drawing unemployment off PDM's account. There has not been any employment prior to PDM proven. MO


The quarters needed can be used from previous jobs. It doesn't have to come from the same company. You could have worked x amount of time at one job then x amount at another. You can receive unemployment from both jobs. And in Florida you only have to work 2 quarters to qualify, not 4.


Florida unemployment eligibility is determined through two primary means. Knowing whether you are eligible in your specific case depends on completing claims paperwork through Florida’s department of labor to determine your Florida unemployment eligibility.



Monetary Eligibility


The first major test is whether you worked enough during the base period to be “monetarily eligible” for unemployment benefits. The base period includes the previous five quarters of work. In general, for Florida unemployment eligibility, you need to have worked for at least two full quarters of that time. You also must look at the total you earned during your highest-earning quarter. Your total income for the base period must be at least twice what you earned in that high-earning period. Other requirements apply as well, such as a minimum amount made during the base period. This amount changes from time to time as the regulations are reviewed.

http://www.unemploymentflorida.net/florida-unemploymentinsurance.php


Wage Transcript

1. What is the purpose of the Wage Transcript and Determination?
The Wage Transcript and Determination notifies you whether you have had sufficient work and earnings in “covered employment” to establish a monetarily eligible claim. The only earnings that can be used to determine eligibility are those earned during the base period of your claim. The base period is shown on the form. This base period is determined in accordance with the Florida Unemployment Compensation law in Florida Statutes Chapter 443.036(5) as the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters. The determination will list all the employers that have reported wage information and paid unemployment compensation taxes to the Department of Revenue on your wages in the base period.

http://www.floridajobs.org/unemployment/


Just because you think he didn't work doesn't mean he didn't. Just because he only worked at PDM doesn't mean he can't be drawing unemployment. IF he is drawing unemployment it proves the claims that he didn't work before PDM are false.

[Peaches]

He does change his routine so to speak whenever it's questioned. For example when the Greta interview show was posted on youtube where she questioned his responses. Where he was coaching Misty on what happened in the house that night; saying to the effect how does he know he wasn't there.

He quickly changed his responses thereafter to I don't know I wasn't there. (in effect parroting his critics greta)

So obvious. Before that he knew everything better than Misty about which bed they were all sleeping in and the activities in the home that night in question. So transparent.

I do think he married her for reasons to benefit himself other than desire to be wedded to her. This is my opinion.



Since we are not talking about HaLeigh............I am out of here.

God bless you little princess.

Come home soon!:rose::rose::rose: Your family is waiting.

[Diamond1]

The quarters needed can be used from previous jobs.

Snip due to length...

There is not any proof that he is drawing unemployment. Peaches did not and cannot provide proof of her statement. There is not proof that he ever worked anywhere else prior to PDM. There is not proof of any pending lawsuit against PDM.

So the subject is moot.

MO

[W_D_1]

Snip due to length...

There is not any proof that he is drawing unemployment. Peaches did not and cannot provide proof of her statement. There is not proof that he ever worked anywhere else prior to PDM. There is not proof of any pending lawsuit agains PDM.

So the subject is moot.

MO


There is NO proof he didn't work prior to PDM. That is pure fantasy.

[panman]

People that are terminated for cause as he was do not qualify for unemployment.

Link please. Or link that he isn't getting unemployment.

[panman]

Good Morning Everyone.

I don't know how to do a quote within a quote so included reference in blue above. The quote pretty much sums up how I feel.

I'm not giving up hope that HaLeigh will be returned to her family, alive and well, very soon.

Hope is not given up for me either.

[panman]

Perhaps, IF he was terminated for not calling as reported. I think there is more to it than that.

Also, he had not completed the 90 day probationary period so he could be terminated with or without cause based on that.

AND to draw unemployment a person must have 4 quarters of previous employment which Ron did not have.MO

BBM

Could I have the link to his employment records? TIA

[Chica]

I don't mean to sound like a B*...because I really feel bad for Ron and seeing him on NG breaks my heart...but there's no reason Ron should be getting government assistance, he is able-bodied and no reason he can't work. The same goes for Crystal and Misty and all the other 'adults' in this case. A missing child is a tragedy, but after 8 months, Ron could return to work. I have worked w/ people whose children have died, spouse died, etc and they returned to work in a few weeks at the most.. Actually, I would imagine welcoming anything to distract my mind...working might bring Ron some peace. JMO

PS- Are some of them still living in "tents"? NG mentioned it the other night.

I would agree with your opinion of when Ron should go back to work, except that it is up to Ron when he returns to work. And just maybe he feels he needs to be at Jr's side to protect him. My God, he has already had 1 child stolen. Do you really think he wants to leave his remaining child alone with Misty? And before I get beaten up, yes I know Gram is there, too, but more importantly so is Misty. And why is it so important to some to criticize Ron for not returning to work. No one else appears to work in this family.

[Survivor]

When that happens the US takes the DP off the table so it's not a problem.


That is what I stated in my last sentence. I guess I wasn't quite clear enough.:wink:

[Chica]

Do you have a link or confirmation? I have not heard that. The last information I read was he was terminated for cause...no call no show per employer.
mo

Yes, it's called job abandonment. I do feel his company could have been more gracious with his absence, but I don't know all of the facts. He may have just cause for a suit. I don't know.

[Chica]

No because regardless I don't believe it'll solve the case.

Really? It could be relevant, probably not, but it could be..

[Survivor]

JMO but if a person does not have to pay rent and utilities (Ron at GGM's and Misty at a friend), living expenses are pretty low.

I have seen this happen in many cases that the searching family is too busy caught up in the search, or just too distraught, to work. In high profile cases, I wonder what their lawyers have arranged for them to get cash, e.g., arranging to sell rights to their story or something. The lawyers may work pro bono for the advertising benefit, but they may also have some kind of future royalties deal for their own story of the case.


A quick call to the Anthony's, to get some tips on how to keep the cash flow moving during the loss and searching for a precious child would i'm sure give them some helpful hints.:sneaky:

[panman]

I don't look at it that way. I simply don't care.

Now that it's been mentioned I hope she's well-tended since LE says she's key to solving the case. And I do believe LE in that.

This is my opinion.

BBM

Could you point me in the right to direction to those words from LE? TIA

[AlohaRainbow]

*Snipped to address bolding* There is not proof that he ever worked anywhere else prior to PDM. *snip*
MO

iirc, one of the factors in his gaining custody of his children was that he was employed.

[KatieLady]

BBM

Could you point me in the right to direction to those words from LE? TIA

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m4d3-Sheriff-remains-dedicated-to-Haleigh-Cummings-case-and-believes-Misty-holds-key-to-disappearance

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5093710.php

http://www.wtsp.com/news/mostpop/story.aspx?storyid=103381&provider=top

[Lurken]

iirc, one of the factors in his gaining custody of his children was that he was employed.

And Crystal was not. JMO.

[tia marie]

No because regardless I don't believe it'll solve the case.

As much as I have agreed with many of your posts when I have read you, I have to disagree with this one. Misty just may feel comfortable enough with this friend to confide in. Maybe not solve the case, but certainly a clue here and there.

[dustyk]

iirc, one of the factors in his gaining custody of his children was that he was employed.
ITA he usually is employed when he goes to court or needs an alibi, JMO

[AlohaRainbow]

When that happens the US takes the DP off the table so it's not a problem.

in this case, IF misty should be charged with what otherwise could be a capital offense, she could not be facing the dp - the u.s. supreme court has invalidated the dp for minors

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62584-2005Mar1.html

[CFMom]

I don't mean to sound like a B*...because I really feel bad for Ron and seeing him on NG breaks my heart...but there's no reason Ron should be getting government assistance, he is able-bodied and no reason he can't work. The same goes for Crystal and Misty and all the other 'adults' in this case. A missing child is a tragedy, but after 8 months, Ron could return to work. I have worked w/ people whose children have died, spouse died, etc and they returned to work in a few weeks at the most.. Actually, I would imagine welcoming anything to distract my mind...working might bring Ron some peace. JMO

PS- Are some of them still living in "tents"? NG mentioned it the other night.

Both the bio parents can and should be working supporting their children.

[CFMom]

ITA he usually is employed when he goes to court or needs an alibi, JMO

Thats a harsh statement to make even when adding an IMO at the end.

[CFMom]

A quick call to the Anthony's, to get some tips on how to keep the cash flow moving during the loss and searching for a precious child would i'm sure give them some helpful hints.:sneaky:

Are you saying Haleighs family has contacted the Anthonys about "how to keep the cash flow moving during the loss and searching for a precious child "....is this a truth or a rumor?

[Tracian]

Simon has a copy of the letter Nay-Nay wrote to her mother. She is really upset about LE interviewing her; seems that they interviewed her again from what the letter said.

[CFMom]

Nothing is more harsh than a missing child in my opinion. Can't think of anything worse. This is my opinion.

A missing child is a tradegy...making a statement without proof about the father of the missing child is harsh. IMO

[W_D_1]

You just rock on the laws, W_D_1. :thumbsup:

The only thing I know is that unemployment is a state level issue, and each state has it's own rules. Thanks to you, we have Florida's rules now.

As for posters who think they are mods and this discussion is somehow not about Haleigh.... under broader theories that Haleigh may have been sold or traded for cash or drugs, or perhaps to collect life insurance, the financial condition of the parties is most certainly relevant. IMO LE knows all about their finances, and IMO it is on topic as it would be in any such case.

It wasn't hard to find. A quick google for dept of labor then frequently asked questions. I knew for fact that the current job wasn't the only one looked at because my brother is on unemployment right now and was told to list his last 3 employers and that they would combine quarters from the 3 if needed.

None of us know what Ron's work history was because none of us have access to his employment files or his taxes. We can only base it on what history we know about and that history includes jobs he worked that would withhold taxes.

The dept of labor would look at why he wasn't going to work. A missing child would qualify as a good reason to not go to work and IMO he would qualify for unemployment.

[tia marie]

iirc, one of the factors in his gaining custody of his children was that he was employed.

Yes, according to the 2005 court documents Ron told the court he was employed at Superior Construction at $10 per hour. However I do think at the time he was still on a probationary period as his health benefits hadn't kicked in it.

moo

[Lynn Gweeny]

Simon has a copy of the letter Nay-Nay wrote to her mother. She is really upset about LE interviewing her; seems that they interviewed her again from what the letter said.


Kristina “Nay Nay” Prevatt’s letter to her Mother (page 1)
http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/Hal1.jpg

Kristina “Nay Nay” Prevatt’s letter to her Mother (page 2)
http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/Hal2.jpg


Prevatt's sister, Kelly Dodd, showed Action news a similar letter Thursday that was written to Prevatt's family. It is addressed to 'Nay Nay's' mom, Diane Prevatt.

VIDEO of Kelly Dodd being interviewed:
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=33794@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5

[Lurken]

Is Ron still employed? Does he get up each morning and go to work? If not, why is he able to keep custody of Jr. ? JMO

Or is he living off his Mom?

[CFMom]

Is Ron still employed? Does he get up each morning and go to work? If not, why is he able to keep custody of Jr. ? JMO

Or is he living off his Mom?

If going to work each day is the reason for custody..well neither would have JR right now. Crystal also isnt working.

[W_D_1]

Is Ron still employed? Does he get up each morning and go to work? If not, why is he able to keep custody of Jr. ? JMO

Or is he living off his Mom?


He recently received the more than $12,000 Crystal owed him for back child support. Since he is living with, not off of, his grandmother that money could/should last awhile.

[Lurken]

Last I heard his company terminated him because he didn't goto work for X-amt of time and he and his wife were living with his grandmother Skyes. This is my opinion. I don't feel like googling right now.

Well I can understand why he didn't go to work. JMO. His daughter is missing.

[W_D_1]

If going to work each day is the reason for custody..well neither would have JR right now. Crystal also isnt working.


And hasn't for years. I wonder why her employment...err lack of....isn't an issue? I guess it's ok for her to live off of Chad while not paying support for her children?

[CFMom]

He recently received the more than $12,000 Crystal owed him for back child support. Since he is living with, not off of, his grandmother that money could/should last awhile.

Yes and that money would be rightfully his seeing as how he'd supported both children without the support. Hopefully that money will help him now in his time of pain and suffering.

[dustyk]

A missing child is a tradegy...making a statement without proof about the father of the missing child is harsh. IMO
Did he not have a job temporarily when he went to court and did he not have a job that he didn't return to when Haleigh went missing? I didn't think a link would be needed. JMO

[CFMom]

And hasn't for years. I wonder why her employment...err lack of....isn't an issue? I guess it's ok for her to live off of Chad while not paying support for her children?

I guess some feel its ok for one parent to not support their children. I do not. Male or female doesnt matter to me. You help make them, you help raise them.

[dustyk]

Yes and that money would be rightfully his seeing as how he'd supported both children without the support. Hopefully that money will help him now in his time of pain and suffering.
Whatever is left after bond from the recent charges. JMO

[Destini]

Kristina “Nay Nay” Prevatt’s letter to her Mother (page 1)
http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/Hal1.jpg

Kristina “Nay Nay” Prevatt’s letter to her Mother (page 2)
http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/Hal2.jpg


Prevatt's sister, Kelly Dodd, showed Action news a similar letter Thursday that was written to Prevatt's family. It is addressed to 'Nay Nay's' mom, Diane Prevatt.

VIDEO of Kelly Dodd being interviewed:
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=33794@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5

Thank you so much for the links! From the video, I thought NayNay's sister Kelly didn't seem very convinced her sister was not involved in this.

For the life of me, I can't understand why her family would release this letter for the world to see. I guess maybe they think it exonerates her because she says it's a lie, but I'm personally not convinced it's not true. Why would this guy JP make up such a tale pointing fingers at Misty, NayNay & WBG? What is his relationship to these people?

[CFMom]

Did he not have a job temporarily when he went to court and did he not have a job that he didn't return to when Haleigh went missing? I didn't think a link would be needed. JMO

His job record doesnt matter to me honestly. All I know is the courts give him custody and he was raising his children. The children looked happy and well taken care of and Add the fact he was at work the night Haleigh vanished to the fact LE doesnt see him as a suspect..and to me hes innocent.

[CFMom]

Whatever is left after bond from the recent charges. JMO

Are you speaking of a case thats yet to go to court? if so one cant figure in something that has not happen.

[W_D_1]

Did he not have a job temporarily when he went to court and did he not have a job that he didn't return to when Haleigh went missing? I didn't think a link would be needed. JMO


Temporarily? Please explain how you know it was temporary.

[W_D_1]

I guess some feel its ok for one parent to not support their children. I do not. Male or female doesnt matter to me. You help make them, you help raise them.


I love how some hold Ron to one standard and Crystal to another.

[Chica]

Thats a harsh statement to make even when adding an IMO at the end.

Hi CFM, And if I may add, if I was going to court I would want my ducks in a row. Why go unprepared? That is foolish.

[dustyk]

His job record doesnt matter to me honestly. All I know is the courts give him custody and he was raising his children. The children looked happy and well taken care of and Add the fact he was at work the night Haleigh vanished to the fact LE doesnt see him as a suspect..and to me hes innocent.
See that is what I don't understand....it is o.k. that he and Misty is or were living with the GGM. As a mother I couldn't allow that. It has been 8 months now and he admitted to partying the night of the rat incident so if he can party he should be able to work. He has custody and Jr needs a positive role model and the fighting and lack of employment is not a positive role model IMO. JMO

[Trissy]

I may be wrong but i cant help but think that the jailhouse letter has some truth to it. I mean what else could have happened to this poor child?
The house where the party was, does anyone know if that house had been checked out by LE? imo

[dustyk]

Are you speaking of a case thats yet to go to court? if so one cant figure in something that has not happen.
HUh....I am sure he didn't get a "Get out of Jail Free" card. JMO

[Lurken]

His job record doesnt matter to me honestly. All I know is the courts give him custody and he was raising his children. The children looked happy and well taken care of and Add the fact he was at work the night Haleigh vanished to the fact LE doesnt see him as a suspect..and to me hes innocent.

I also think he's innocent of any wrong doing. However, the fact that he married his live-in baby sitter doesn't sit well with me. JMO.

Let us not forget Misty has only been around for about 3-4 months. And he marries her? Whats up with that?

Don't have a link. JMO.

[Elle]

Can anyone direct me to where the new pictures of Haleigh may be found? I am not asking for a link, just what show they were shown on.
Thank you

[CFMom]

I love how some hold Ron to one standard and Crystal to another.

Me too. Ron is even bashed for his clothes.

[CFMom]

See that is what I don't understand....it is o.k. that he and Misty is or were living with the GGM. As a mother I couldn't allow that. It has been 8 months now and he admitted to partying the night of the rat incident so if he can party he should be able to work. He has custody and Jr needs a positive role model and the fighting and lack of employment is not a positive role model IMO. JMO

Same can be said for Crystal. How many months child support was she behind to add up to 12,000 dollars..is this a 'positive role model'? Does Crystal work, NO, is this a 'positive role model'?

[Lurken]

Same can be said for Crystal. How many months child support was she behind to add up to 12,000 dollars..is this a 'positive role model'? Does Crystal work, NO, is this a 'positive role model'?

I read upthread she paid the $12,000. Link anyone? JMO.

[CFMom]

I don't. It's that the child vanished from Ron's watch. The other parent didn't have custody, he did.

Many children vanish when in the care of only one parent. Doesnt mean the parent is guilty. I would name a few cases but its pointless to do so because I am sure posters here already know that.

[CFMom]

I read upthread she paid the $12,000. Link anyone? JMO.

She didnt. The money was paid for by some woman. Crystal never caught her support up.

[Chica]

I may be wrong but i cant help but think that the jailhouse letter has some truth to it. I mean what else could have happened to this poor child?
The house where the party was, does anyone know if that house had been checked out by LE? imo

I wonder about that, too. I wonder who Chad is and if his apartment has been searched?

[Destini]

I may be wrong but i cant help but think that the jailhouse letter has some truth to it. I mean what else could have happened to this poor child?
The house where the party was, does anyone know if that house had been checked out by LE? imo

I know, it makes about as much sense as anything else. Apparently they took NayNay's car in to search it, hopefully with a cadaver dog. I would think that would tell them whether it's possible or not. If the dogs hit on the car, they need to take them to this Chad's house. Still wouldn't tell them where Haleigh is, but at least they'd know who to put the screws to.

Could be NayNay may not be getting out of jail on Oct. 15, huh, if the dogs get a hit on her car.

[Tracian]

I read upthread she paid the $12,000. Link anyone? JMO.


Actually, Crystal didn't pay, a lady from Texas donated the money to catch Crystal up on the Child Support.

Sorry, I don't have the link, maybe someone does have it handy.

[W_D_1]

Well I don't think those things are JMO.

They are facts of this case.

FACT: Ron's daughter is missing.
FACT: That is why he didn't go to work.

As to your third question I have no way of knowing where the little boy is. I'm not able to follow this case 24/7. I have no idea if Ron does have custody of him still. shrug. Maybe someone else knows. I've seen it said on these boards that the little boy is with someone else but I have no way of knowing if that's true or not. I didn't see any links with those remarks over the months.

To me it's a no-brainer that a parent would stop work when their child vanishes. I would think by anyone's estimation that is an extremely horrific event.



Ron still has custody. Crystal gets weekend visitation every other weekend.

[dustyk]

I love how some hold Ron to one standard and Crystal to another.
I love how some are quick to talk about child support from Crystal but ronald is always excused because his daughter is missing he can't work. Is he not expected to support his CHILDREN!!!! Will GGM sykes and Crystal have to take care of him the rest of his life. JMO

[Lurken]

He recently received the more than $12,000 Crystal owed him for back child support. Since he is living with, not off of, his grandmother that money could/should last awhile.

Link please. :confused: That he got the money from Crystal. JMO.

[W_D_1]

I read upthread she paid the $12,000. Link anyone? JMO.


It's on the link thread.


ETA I read your post wrong. The article with the amount is on the link thread. It was paid by a donor, not Crystal.

[dustyk]

Same can be said for Crystal. How many months child support was she behind to add up to 12,000 dollars..is this a 'positive role model'? Does Crystal work, NO, is this a 'positive role model'?
So that excuses ronald. If all the women in his life let him get away with that no wonder this is happening. JMO

[CFMom]

I love how some are quick to talk about child support from Crystal but ronald is always excused because his daughter is missing he can't work. Is he not expected to support his CHILDREN!!!! Will GGM sykes and Crystal have to take care of him the rest of his life. JMO

He was supporting his children...up until his heart broke after Haleigh went missing. It was Crystal who wasnt supporting her kids. Are there reports that JR isnt cared for now? I dont think so. Just another way to condemn a father of a missing child.

[W_D_1]

I love how some are quick to talk about child support from Crystal but ronald is always excused because his daughter is missing he can't work. Is he not expected to support his CHILDREN!!!! Will GGM sykes and Crystal have to take care of him the rest of his life. JMO


The back child support is his money. It was owed to him. He can use it any way he chooses to use it. Can you prove he isn't using it to help pay bills at Annette Sykes home and support his child?

Now that's hilarious about Crystal supporting him. She didn't support her own children for almost 4 years so I don't think anyone expects her to support anyone.

[Lurken]

It's on the link thread.


ETA I read your post wrong. The article with the amount is on the link thread. It was paid by a donor, not Crystal.

Interesting. Chad?

[W_D_1]

Link please. :confused: That he got the money from Crystal. JMO.


I didn't say he got it from Crystal. I said he received the money she owed him.

[CFMom]

So that excuses ronald. If all the women in his life let him get away with that no wonder this is happening. JMO

Post the positive role model credentials Crystal has?

[W_D_1]

Interesting. Chad?


No it was from a woman in Texas.

[Chica]

I know, it makes about as much sense as anything else. Apparently they took NayNay's car in to search it, hopefully with a cadaver dog. I would think that would tell them whether it's possible or not. If the dogs hit on the car, they need to take them to this Chad's house. Still wouldn't tell them where Haleigh is, but at least they'd know who to put the screws to.

Could be NayNay may not be getting out of jail on Oct. 15, huh, if the dogs get a hit on her car.

I have not been around much this weekend and wondered if someone would point me in the direction of NayNay's car being searched? Is it in the Links section? Thanks

[Lurken]

I didn't say he got it from Crystal. I said he received the money she owed him.

The plot thickens. JMO.

[CFMom]

I love how some are quick to talk about child support from Crystal but ronald is always excused because his daughter is missing he can't work. Is he not expected to support his CHILDREN!!!! Will GGM sykes and Crystal have to take care of him the rest of his life. JMO

About the part I bolded...when did they ever start?????? Hasnt Ron solely supported both children for what..4 years?

[CFMom]

I have not been around much this weekend and wondered if someone would point me in the direction of NayNay's car being searched? Is it in the Links section? Thanks

I think its in the NayNay letters Lynn posted a few up thread.

[dustyk]

Post the positive role model credentials Crystal has?
Crystal lost custody...she isn't the primary custodial parent Ronald is and he is Jr's father...most father's I know want to set a good example for their sons and be a positive role model by being EMPLOYED!!!JMO

[Destini]

I have not been around much this weekend and wondered if someone would point me in the direction of NayNay's car being searched? Is it in the Links section? Thanks

In the latest letter NayNay wrote her mother, she says, "They went and got my car from the junk yard and are doing some CSI sh** with it."

http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/Hal1.jpg

[titanfan217]

A quick call to the Anthony's, to get some tips on how to keep the cash flow moving during the loss and searching for a precious child would i'm sure give them some helpful hints.:sneaky:

Not the way he cut 'em down a few months ago.

[VenusFlyTrap]

I love how some are quick to talk about child support from Crystal but ronald is always excused because his daughter is missing he can't work. Is he not expected to support his CHILDREN!!!! Will GGM sykes and Crystal have to take care of him the rest of his life. JMO

Does anyone really think it will be easy for Ronald to find a job at this point in time?.. Who is going to hire him with all of this going on.. If I was looking at him to hire I would have to think if it would be a good idea.. due to his emotional state at this point in time he could be a risk for getting hurt or someone else getting hurt. If you don't have your mind on your job, can't concentrate on it, that is a definitely an accident waiting to happen...

As for his daughter being gone almost 8 months and he should be able to work.. as someone said, they know people that have had family members pass away and they return to work... that's a different situation, they know where those people are and they know they are gone forever and not coming back. Ronald does not know either of these.. he has to wonder on a daily basis if HaLeigh is out there, is she ok, is she going to be found.. etc... It is so easy to sit back and judge when you don't have a child of your own missing.

[W_D_1]

Crystal may never put a bite of food into any of her childeren's mouths.

nonetheless -

Where is Haleigh?


It doesn't bother you that a mother who owed child support for her 2 children didn't bother to pay it? I'd bet if the roles were reversed and it was the father who owed it you'd be screaming deadbeat dad.

I don't give Crystal a free pass because she's a woman or had another baby, or got in a car wreck when she was already behind. She owed that money long before Haleigh disappeared so the "she had a child disappear" excuse doesn't work for me either. And in any other case that would have been motive and she'd have been the prime suspect.

[W_D_1]

Crystal lost custody...she isn't the primary custodial parent Ronald is and he is Jr's father...most father's I know want to set a good example for their sons and be a positive role model by being EMPLOYED!!!JMO


You get funnier with every post.

So she shouldn't be a good role model because she doesn't have primary custody????

[dustyk]

Does anyone really think it will be easy for Ronald to find a job at this point in time?.. Who is going to hire him with all of this going on.. If I was looking at him to hire I would have to think if it would be a good idea.. due to his emotional state at this point in time he could be a risk for getting hurt or someone else getting hurt. If you don't have your mind on your job, can't concentrate on it, that is a definitely an accident waiting to happen...

As for his daughter being gone almost 8 months and he should be able to work.. as someone said, they know people that have had family members pass away and they return to work... that's a different situation, they know where those people are and they know they are gone forever and not coming back. Ronald does not know either of these.. he has to wonder on a daily basis if HaLeigh is out there, is she ok, is she going to be found.. etc... It is so easy to sit back and judge when you don't have a child of your own missing.
Oh Puhlease....look in the classifieds there are jobs out there!!!JMO

[W_D_1]

ITA exactly. The $12,000 represents cash outlays already spent by Ron in support of his 2 children over a long period of time.


And there is nothing to indicate he isn't using that money to supprot his child and help pay bills at his grandmother's house.

[dustyk]

You get funnier with every post.

So she shouldn't be a good role model because she doesn't have primary custody????
and you are hilarious with your post, he wanted custody he got it now he needs to man up, get a job, get a place to live just like every other american citizen. There is no excuse JMO

[CFMom]

Crystal lost custody...she isn't the primary custodial parent Ronald is and he is Jr's father...most father's I know want to set a good example for their sons and be a positive role model by being EMPLOYED!!!JMO

If you feel the kids need a positive role model and you feel Crystals the better parent..please post her positive role model credentials. Appareantly the court feels Ron was/is the better full time parent.

[VenusFlyTrap]

Oh Puhlease....look in the classifieds there are jobs out there!!!JMO

Puhlease, yes there are jobs... doesn't mean he will get hired.:rolleyes:

[CFMom]

and you are hilarious with your post, he wanted custody he got it now he needs to man up, get a job, get a place to live just like every other american citizen. There is no excuse JMO

He has a place to live. Will bashing Ron now help locate Haleigh?

[dustyk]

I think Ron's job is finding HaLeigh or what happened to her. His life is a mess right now, I think he would be absolutely useless working a regular job right now.
His life was a mess before IMO. No excuse JMO

[Lurken]

and you are hilarious with your post, he wanted custody he got it now he needs to man up, get a job, get a place to live just like every other american citizen. There is no excuse JMO

Mark Klass didn't lose his job that I know of. JMO.

[CFMom]

Puhlease, yes there are jobs... doesn't mean he will get hired.:rolleyes:

I agree. Plus unless you have experienced losing a child you have no idea how you would act and what you would do if you were in that persons shoes. Why is Rons lack of working being disccussed yet Crystals not working and not supporting the kids ever..not?

[CFMom]

Mark Klass didn't lose his job that I know of. JMO.

Mark was a good father who lost his Little Polly...on his watch.

[W_D_1]

and you are hilarious with your post, he wanted custody he got it now he needs to man up, get a job, get a place to live just like every other american citizen. There is no excuse JMO


He has a place to live. It may not suit you but it apparently suits him and his grandmother since I haven't seen or heard she wants him out.

Apparently DCF doesn't have a problem with him not working right now. They investigated him and left Jr with him while he is unemployed and living with his grandmother. Apparently they understand what's going on in his life and the hardships he is dealing with right now. Of course they base their decisions on facts and not on emotions.

[Elle]

Mark was a good father who lost his Little Polly...on his watch.

Wasn't the sleepover at Polly's moms?

[CFMom]

He has a place to live. It may not suit you but it apparently suits him and his grandmother since I haven't seen or heard she wants him out.

Apparently DCF doesn't have a problem with him not working right now. They investigated him and left Jr with him while he is unemployed and living with his grandmother. Apparently they understand what's going on in his life and the hardships he is dealing with right now. Of course they base their decisions on facts and not on emotions.

If custody was given to Crystal who would support JR..she has no job.

[W_D_1]

That's no more proof than anyone else's opinion on a message board.

ALL I was doing was telling the other poster I have no idea if anything that's said as opinion about is true or not. I have no proof, no link.

In summation; I do not know Jr.'s status for fact. I was merely telling her I can not answer her 3rd question.


Huh? It isn't opinion. It's fact. Ron still has custody and Crystal still has weekend visits every other weekend.

[dustyk]

If you feel the kids need a positive role model and you feel Crystals the better parent..please post her positive role model credentials. Appareantly the court feels Ron was/is the better full time parent.
Did I say Crystal was the better parent...is that the excuse he uses, doesn't work! I said he needs to stop living off of women and go to work because he is the custodial parent and complaining about what Crystal is or isn't doing does not excuse him. JMO

[KatieLady]

I know none of you really care what I think but I am going to post it anyway :biggrin:

All of this hashing and re-hashing gets us nowhere. IMO People believe what they believe and are not going to change their minds. It's like talking religion or politics IMO

The fact of the matter is that Ron and Chrystal have been cleared by LE. So for me, until and unless that changes....I am looking for motive/opportunity elsewhere.

All of these topics are old and tiring IMO

[dustyk]

He has a place to live. It may not suit you but it apparently suits him and his grandmother since I haven't seen or heard she wants him out.

Apparently DCF doesn't have a problem with him not working right now. They investigated him and left Jr with him while he is unemployed and living with his grandmother. Apparently they understand what's going on in his life and the hardships he is dealing with right now. Of course they base their decisions on facts and not on emotions.
Well I hope he gets over it soon...seems the only way Jr will learn how to work for a living when he is grown will be from Chad on the farm every other weekend. JMO

[just4justice]

I love how some are quick to talk about child support from Crystal but ronald is always excused because his daughter is missing he can't work. Is he not expected to support his CHILDREN!!!! Will GGM sykes and Crystal have to take care of him the rest of his life. JMO

Respectfully, I'm curious about what you would be doing if you had a child missing? I have a hard time seeing myself in that position, but if my child were missing I don't think I'd be able to focus on work, especially when it comes to operating a crane. My conscience wouldn't allow me to put anothers life at risk.

[W_D_1]

John Walsh made it his job to find his child, his partners and employees understood he was useless at the job. Anybody with a bit of common sense, would understand holding down a job while your child is out there going though who knows what, would not be mentally stable.


Excellent post legal.

[CFMom]

Did I say Crystal was the better parent...is that the excuse he uses, doesn't work! I said he needs to stop living off of women and go to work because he is the custodial parent and complaining about what Crystal is or isn't doing does not excuse him. JMO

What women (plural) are you speaking of?

Would this be the same as Crystal living off of Chad since he works and she doesnt?

[dustyk]

Respectfully, I'm curious about what you would be doing if you had a child missing? I have a hard time seeing myself in that position, but if my child were missing I don't think I'd be able to focus on work, especially when it comes to operating a crane. My conscience wouldn't allow me to put anothers life at risk.
Well I wouldn't move in with my elderly relatives especially with my new teenage bride and would have to make sure the bills were paid for my remaining child. JMO

[CFMom]

John Walsh made it his job to find his child, his partners and employees understood he was useless at the job. Anybody with a bit of common sense, would understand holding down a job while your child is out there going though who knows what, would not be mentally stable.

Also go read Tim Millers story at what he became before he started TES when his daughter went missing.

[Chica]

In the latest letter NayNay wrote her mother, she says, "They went and got my car from the junk yard and are doing some CSI sh** with it."

http://www.bloggernews.net/indepth/Haleigh/Hal1.jpg

Thank you Destini.

[dustyk]

What women (plural) are you speaking of?

Would this be the same as Crystal living off of Chad since he works and she doesnt?
There you go condoning what he does by comparing to Crystal and if he were living off of Misty I would think that would be better than living off of his elderly grandmother, but i forgot Misty doesn't work either. JMOP

[Chica]

Well I wouldn't move in with my elderly relatives especially with my new teenage bride and would have to make sure the bills were paid for my remaining child. JMO

With all due respect, you do not know what you would do. I seriously do not think anyone would return to work when their child is missing.

[just4justice]

Well I wouldn't move in with my elderly relatives especially with my new teenage bride and would have to make sure the bills were paid for my remaining child. JMO

With all due respect I wouldn't be able to demand Ron be employed, at this time, in the lines of work he does. Construction, crane operation, drywall, etc. all require 100% attention to detail or it would put other people at risk of injury or death.

[CFMom]

There you go condoning what he does by comparing to Crystal and if he were living off of Misty I would think that would be better than living off of his elderly grandmother, but i forgot Misty doesn't work either. JMOP

Is his grandmother complaining?

[dustyk]

Is his grandmother complaining?
YOu know I wondered the same thing and that's why Misty left. JMO

[CFMom]

Where does where Ron is living now have to do with Haleigh missing months ago?:confused:

[CANDYKISSES]

Does anyone really think it will be easy for Ronald to find a job at this point in time?.. Who is going to hire him with all of this going on.. If I was looking at him to hire I would have to think if it would be a good idea.. due to his emotional state at this point in time he could be a risk for getting hurt or someone else getting hurt. If you don't have your mind on your job, can't concentrate on it, that is a definitely an accident waiting to happen...

As for his daughter being gone almost 8 months and he should be able to work.. as someone said, they know people that have had family members pass away and they return to work... that's a different situation, they know where those people are and they know they are gone forever and not coming back. Ronald does not know either of these.. he has to wonder on a daily basis if HaLeigh is out there, is she ok, is she going to be found.. etc... It is so easy to sit back and judge when you don't have a child of your own missing.

Isn't that the truth Venus? It seems the judgment call for RC is like nothing I've ever seen barring Mark Lunsford with regard too MEN who raised and supported their children. I can't believe the gender bias this tragic case has attracted.

I feel for the paternal and maternal families involved here. It's no way for anyone to live never knowing the location of a child IMOO. :crying:

Someone knows something that will lead LE in the right direction to getting Haleigh back home and it needs to be brought forward NOW IMO. :wub:That happy, sweet baby girl deserves better than what we are seeing. JMO

[panman]

I love how some are quick to talk about child support from Crystal but ronald is always excused because his daughter is missing he can't work. Is he not expected to support his CHILDREN!!!! Will GGM sykes and Crystal have to take care of him the rest of his life. JMO

BBM

Thanks for making that point. Is SHE not expected to support HER CHILDREN!!!!

[dustyk]

With all due respect I wouldn't be able to demand Ron be employed, at this time, in the lines of work he does. Construction, crane operation, drywall, etc. all require 100% attention to detail or it would put other people at risk of injury or death.

Bull.....I am surrounded by men who take pride in the fact that they are providers of their families and that would be the first thing they would know they had to do, put food on the table. JMO

[dustyk]

BBM

Thanks for making that point. Is SHE not expected to support HER CHILDREN!!!!
Seems so JMO

[CFMom]

No. I do not want children to starve. I believe you already knew that before you asked the rhetorical question.

I don't believe Crystal Sheffield had a thing to do with Haleigh's vanishing.

Moderator told us to stay on the topic of this case so I won't go into what I think about a lot of things even though you breach the topic.

If the woman paid-up the problem's solved. It is my opinion Crystal Sheffield is the main victim in this case next to Haleigh herself. FYI: This is NOT another case. It is the case it is so we're not in fantasyland here.

This is my opinion.

If you believe Crystal kidnapped Haleigh I'm fine with your thinking that. I don't think that.

Hope this makes a few things clear about my opinion about this case.

I disagree. JR is the second victim followed then by BOTH parents. IMO

[VenusFlyTrap]

Isn't that the truth Venus? It seems the judgment call for RC is like nothing I've ever seen barring Mark Lunsford with regard too MEN who raised and supported their children. I can't believe the gender bias this tragic case has attracted.

I feel for the paternal and maternal families involved here. It's no way for anyone to live never knowing the location of a child IMOO. :crying:

Someone knows something that will lead LE in the right direction to getting Haleigh back home and it needs to be brought forward NOW IMO. :wub:That happy, sweet baby girl deserves better than what we are seeing. JMO


I've never seen anything like it either.. and we have both been around here for a very long time.... I don't see where it makes any difference at all where RC is living.. only thing that should matter is finding HaLeigh.

[panman]

So that excuses ronald. If all the women in his life let him get away with that no wonder this is happening. JMO

How does excusing and enabling Crystal help her children?

[FrankieBones1]

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m4d3-Sheriff-remains-dedicated-to-Haleigh-Cummings-case-and-believes-Misty-holds-key-to-disappearance

http://www.thesky973.com/pages/5093710.php

http://www.wtsp.com/news/mostpop/story.aspx?storyid=103381&provider=top

Not the same quote as the poster quoted on here.
Both links contain the words, ' Hardy maintains that Misty Croslin Cummings holds the key to the investigation because she was the last person to see Haleigh on Feb. 9. '

"Holds the key to the investigation".

The second link doesn't quote him at all.

Just sayin'.

[Darcy]

Well I wouldn't move in with my elderly relatives especially with my new teenage bride and would have to make sure the bills were paid for my remaining child. JMO





I think most people would appreciate the love, comfort and support from their relatives and friends at such a heart wrenching time in their lives. I'm sure that surrounding Jr. with the security of a familiar and safe environment helps to alleviate his fears. What makes you think that Ron does not contribute to food and utility bills?

[tia marie]

Respectfully, I'm curious about what you would be doing if you had a child missing? I have a hard time seeing myself in that position, but if my child were missing I don't think I'd be able to focus on work, especially when it comes to operating a crane. My conscience wouldn't allow me to put anothers life at risk.

Curious here, was Ron's conscience bothering him when he was calling and texting Misty 20 times while operating the crane? Just asking.

[panman]

Does anyone really think it will be easy for Ronald to find a job at this point in time?.. Who is going to hire him with all of this going on.. If I was looking at him to hire I would have to think if it would be a good idea.. due to his emotional state at this point in time he could be a risk for getting hurt or someone else getting hurt. If you don't have your mind on your job, can't concentrate on it, that is a definitely an accident waiting to happen...

As for his daughter being gone almost 8 months and he should be able to work.. as someone said, they know people that have had family members pass away and they return to work... that's a different situation, they know where those people are and they know they are gone forever and not coming back. Ronald does not know either of these.. he has to wonder on a daily basis if HaLeigh is out there, is she ok, is she going to be found.. etc... It is so easy to sit back and judge when you don't have a child of your own missing.

Bumping up to add, I have heard it said on tv that employers read up about future employee's. And the things talked about Ron, most without proof, I would think an employer would think twice about hiring him, at this time.
jmo

[FrankieBones1]

With all due respect I wouldn't be able to demand Ron be employed, at this time, in the lines of work he does. Construction, crane operation, drywall, etc. all require 100% attention to detail or it would put other people at risk of injury or death.
I wholeheartedly agree with this. He may be physically strong enough to do that work but what about mentally. Having a child missing must mess with one's head. Not knowing would be worse, in my opinion. His whole being and world is up in the air.
imo

[dustyk]

I think most people would appreciate the love, comfort and support from their relatives and friends at such a heart wrenching time in their lives. I'm sure that surrounding Jr. with the security of a familiar and safe environment helps to alleviate his fears. What makes you think that Ron does not contribute to food and utility bills?
I think most MEN would have more pride than that. JMO

[FrankieBones1]

Curious here, was Ron's conscience bothering him when he was calling and texting Misty 20 times while operating the crane? Just asking.

How do you know he was or wasn't doing it from the ground on his break?

[CFMom]

Curious here, was Ron's conscience bothering him when he was calling and texting Misty 20 times while operating the crane? Just asking.

Wouldnt that be a question only Ron could answer? I could give my answer but what good is that.

[panman]

Oh Puhlease....look in the classifieds there are jobs out there!!!JMO

Oh Puhlease is right. Classified sections for jobs have been around a long time. To bad Crystal didn't try it. Maybe then she wouldn't be known as not supporting her kids.
jmo

[FrankieBones1]

I think most MEN would have more pride than that. JMO

And this is where the Ronald v. Crystal starts, I suppose.

[CFMom]

Proof that he suffers from not knowing please?

The posted stated 'in my opinion'.

[KatieLady]

Not the same quote as the poster quoted on here.
Both links contain the words, ' Hardy maintains that Misty Croslin Cummings holds the key to the investigation because she was the last person to see Haleigh on Feb. 9. '

"Holds the key to the investigation".

The second link doesn't quote him at all.

Just sayin'.

OK....so I am no Lynn Gweeny but I did my best :sad:

[Elle]

I am confused, is Ron's family complaining that he is not paying his way, is Crystal complaining? Is Ron complaining about not having any money, is he asking for donations?

[FrankieBones1]

Just a frienly reminder....HaLeigh's parents are not suspects in this case.

[CFMom]

I am confused, is Ron's family complaining that he is not paying his way, is Crystal complaining? Is Ron complaining about not having any money, is he asking for donations?

Not that im aware of, not that im aware of, not that im aware of, not that im aware of.

[CFMom]

I agree that Junior is in the most stable and safe enviroment at GGM's and with the people he has spent the most time of his life with - RC, GGM and TN. DFS agrees.

Who is GGM. My mind went blank. Sorry.

[CFMom]

Just a frienly reminder....HaLeigh's parents are not suspects in this case.

True

NOT a SUSPECT http://www.pcso.us/2009-8-17-a and CLEARED http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2009/09/22/news/news01.txt

[CFMom]

Hate to say it but I think someone killed Haleigh.

I'm glad the remaining child is alive. I hope he stays that well. It's my opinion he's suffered much before his sister "vanished". I don't think either of them had a good environment. This is my opinion.

Ron has a history of violence. Talked about on Greta's show On The Record right out of the starting gate about this case. The man has a lurid history of drugs and assault including but not limited to HEROIN.

If you think that's love then we'll have to agree to disagree because love doesn't act like that in my opinion. I don't believe the Mother had a thing to do with the child's disappearence. I wouldn't believe the Father if he told me there's sand at the beach. I base that on his criminal arrest record and the words out of his own mouth to the public at large via media.

This is my opinion.

I believe neither parent harmed Haleigh the night she went missing and honestly..I dont think either parent should be raising children until they are clean from drugs and have decent jobs..BOTH of them.

[Elle]

Not that im aware of, not that im aware of, not that im aware of, not that im aware of.

hm, me either
guess I just don't understand if none of them are complaining and he is not begging for the public to donate then why all the bickering.

[CFMom]

hm, me either
guess I just don't understand if none of them are complaining and he is not begging for the public to donate then why all the bickering.

My opinion is its another jab at Ron.

[FrankieBones1]

OK....so I am no Lynn Gweeny but I did my best :sad:

I know you did your best. No one said you didn't. I just pointed out the blaring inaccuracies. If people are going to post links, the links should be credible and accurate or at least match up to what a member is 'quoting' as fact. Those three links did nothing of the sort.

[VenusFlyTrap]

Proof that he suffers from not knowing please?

I can't give you a link, but as a parent that went through this themself.. he is suffering.. both parents are.

[FrankieBones1]

Part of the article is wrong, right off the top; Ron didn't say anything about Misty not taking another poly....he said he didn't think trying hypnosis again would be work, because it didn't work the first time, on Nancy Grace.

Coldwater is following this board closely so she will see it. I don't report.

[Elle]

Part of the article is wrong, right off the top; Ron didn't say anything about Misty not taking another poly....he said he didn't think trying hypnosis again would be work, because it didn't work the first time, on Nancy Grace.

That was clear in watching the show. IMOO

[panman]

Bull.....I am surrounded by men who take pride in the fact that they are providers of their families and that would be the first thing they would know they had to do, put food on the table. JMO

IMO, it would be just as great to be surrounded by strong women to show their kids they do not have to depend on anyone.

[2boysMom]

I love how some are quick to talk about child support from Crystal but ronald is always excused because his daughter is missing he can't work. Is he not expected to support his CHILDREN!!!! Will GGM sykes and Crystal have to take care of him the rest of his life. JMO

How has Crystal ever taken care of Ron?

If GGM isn't complaining about Ron and Jr. living with her why are you? It's what families do for eachother during hard times.

[panman]

Seems so JMO

When do you think she will start?

[2boysMom]

Curious here, was Ron's conscience bothering him when he was calling and texting Misty 20 times while operating the crane? Just asking.

Wow, how in the heck do you know that he was calling while operating a crane, LOL.

[panman]

IDK either. Crystal was two weeks shy of her 18th birthday when Haleigh was born; Ron was 19, two months shy of 20. In other words, they are about the same age and education/experience levels. Ron Junior was about to turn 4 years old when Haleigh disappeared. Ron has stated that he was had the chidren in his primary custody since just after Haleigh was two years old, so that was in Aug. 2005.... but beginning with Feb 2006...

That is THREE FULL YEARS from Feb 2006-Feb 2009 when Haleigh went missing when Crystal had 4 days visitation per month and NO OTHER CHILDREN of her own. She would have been aged 20 to 23 during that time.

She was not working, so what was she doing for THREE FULL YEARS minus 4 days per month of being with her own children?

She did have another child during that time.

But this is what I don't get. All this talk about Misty, her age, and the alleged things she has done, seems IMO to be the same as Crystal. Except Misty has no bio kids that I know of.

[panman]

bolding mine>

I have felt like that in other cases but not so much this one. In that regard I can identify with your thinking. Even after they were solved and the guilty party incarcerated I still couldn't get rid of the "...how can this be?" notion.

Ron has a history of violence.
SOURCE: Greta "On The Record" early in this case. It's the first obvious thing she brought up.

History of violence? IIRC, he had one affray charge. The rest of the so called history is unproven. Do you have proof of that history?

[panman]

Not the same quote as the poster quoted on here.
Both links contain the words, ' Hardy maintains that Misty Croslin Cummings holds the key to the investigation because she was the last person to see Haleigh on Feb. 9. '

"Holds the key to the investigation".

The second link doesn't quote him at all.

Just sayin'.

Just the reason I didn't respond Frankie.

[CFMom]

I know I've seen you say you have exhonerated both parents. not so fast with him with me. The missing child vanished from his home and he's made statements of known fact that are outright 'inconsistencies'. He made me not trust him. This is my opinion.

I respect your opinion. Only time will tell if the truth ever comes out. I pray this case doesnt go cold.

[panman]

Curious here, was Ron's conscience bothering him when he was calling and texting Misty 20 times while operating the crane? Just asking.

I've heard talk of calling and texting, but don't recall seeing the proof. Calling repeatedly also only requires redialing. Don't do texting so I don't know what that requires. Has the record ever been published?

[CFMom]

Maybe someone should report Lynn Gweeny to CW (NOT) for posting from bloggernews, which is not a mainstream media site either. :rolleyes:

Posters who actually are reading along generally know what is or is not acceptable based on CW's posts, but I don't think we have an exact list. Maybe some poster would like to write the list as her opinion and put it in the links thread for posterity.

BTW Lynn's post is new - NayNay's two page letter to her own family as addressed to her mother Diane Prevatt. The letter previously posted was NayNay's one page letter to her boyfriend Donnie.

I have no idea what is allowed. Im just so scared of getting us shut down.

[CFMom]

Whereever Misty is she has internet it seems. http://www.myspace.com/memec014

[panman]

The phrase there are no jobs is music to a lazy wo/man's ears.

This is my opinion.

IMO, then Crystals ears must be singing 24/7.

[panman]

Proof that he suffers from not knowing please?

Oh my goodness. I think I'll come back later after that comment.

[FrankieBones1]

I agree. I believe CW says in the Help and FAQ's of the forum that it's fine to post links to blogs. mo

Some of those blogs that are being linked are full of errors and rumor. I doubt Coldwater would want garbage posted here!

[panman]

You did a great job. I was going to post a current article from Palatka Daily News, but it is also not a direct quote but a rehash of the words "Misty is the key to the case", when I saw your great post. "Misty is the key to the case" is a part of the body of common knowledge for people who are actually following the case.

CW just posted recently that posters can stop asking others to do their work for them by asking for links.

IMO CW did not mean polite requests for something missed, or new info, or for support of a statement, but to stop all these posters coming in and expecting others to keep reposting things that most already know.

IMO It is rude, petty and snarky to criticize you when you bothered yourself to get links to answer someone who has not caught up (for months now.)

Just caught this before leaving. My apologies to Katie. I was asking for proof from LE's mouth, not from someone saying it was from LE. Meant no disrepect.

[FrankieBones1]

Proof that he suffers from not knowing please?

Are you serious?

[FrankieBones1]

Maybe someone should report Lynn Gweeny to CW (NOT) for posting from bloggernews, which is not a mainstream media site either. <<snipped for length only>>

What a horrible thing to say. I would never report Lynn. And for you to suggest such a thing is not nice either.

Which brings me to a post of yours recently. You posted that Misty claimed to be raped by WhiteBoyGreg. You did not give a source for this horrible rumor. I will go back and repost the entire post if you'd like.

[FrankieBones1]

They link to news sources if you follow the highlighted key words.

CW said it's alright to link to blogs anyway. It's in the Help & FAQ's section and/or under Copyright Laws. Don't have time to go digging it out for everybody right now. I'm busy.

The garbage that has been linked today is not to news articles. It is editorial and opinions. We would be banned if we posted the same stuff.

[FrankieBones1]

Posted Thursday at 3:33pm Eastern by Malleymo
Post# 393
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/sh...4#post13502654

-Misty has accused him. Tommy has no record of being an SO.
-Misty also made remarks to TN to lead her to believe that Joe O. is an SO.
-Misty says she had this horrible upbringing.
-Misty claimed that WBG forced sex on her that lost weekend.
-Misty says Lisa Brooks assaulted her, pending trial.
-Misty has an RO against Tommy.
-Misty lives at GGM's house where Timmy called and left threatening messages last weekend.
-Misty's attorney says maybe she was sleeping in response toTommy saying he went over and pounded on the door and no one seemed to be home.
-Misty's family is distancing themselves from her. Misty's lawyer claims she is distancing herself from them and that Misty will issue a statement that never came out.
-TN emailed TM and said she would like to throw Misty through a window.


Gee, everyone is a such a bad person and Misty is a perpetual victim? It will never fly. IMO the prosecution will chew Misty to pieces. IMO if she goes to trial, he would not even put her on the stand.
__________________
JMO-IMO-MOO unless otherwise noted
**********************

Malleymo, now the part where you claim that WBG forced sex on Misty...What credible site did that come from? Certainly not from any site that Lynn or I would link to.

[FrankieBones1]

Yes, agreed. All the links are much appreciated here also.

I disagree. Not all links are appreciated here. There are sites that post such lies and gossip that is detrimental to this case.

[CANDYKISSES]

Crystal lost custody...she isn't the primary custodial parent Ronald is and he is Jr's father...most father's I know want to set a good example for their sons and be a positive role model by being EMPLOYED!!!JMO

Yeah, well about that. It seems this father is doing the best he can to cope with his own grief and trying to set a good example by providing love, protection and comfort to the sibling of Haleigh/HIS SON who is suffering very much right now IMO. Maybe it's all he can do at this time.

Just possibly if some of the overly involved internet followers hadn't decided to inundate PDM with calls on his work hours and posing questions about any possible work arounds with clocking in, he would still be employed there IMO. :unsure: I feel that made him a liability and PDM found an excuse for termination, but that's just my thought.

[FrankieBones1]

Yeah, well about that. It seems this father is doing the best he can to cope with his own grief and trying to set a good example by providing love, protection and comfort to the sibling of Haleigh/HIS SON who is suffering very much right now IMO. Maybe it's all he can do at this time.

Just possibly if some of the overly involved internet followers hadn't decided to inundate PDM with calls on his work hours and posing questions about any possible work arounds with clocking in, he would still be employed there IMO. :unsure: I feel that made him a liability and PDM found an excuse for termination, but that's just my thought.

I agree, Candy. The people that hate Ronald Cummings are responsible. PDM had to distance themselves, unfortunately. I do believe that HaLeigh's dad has a good case against them.

[KittyMom]

I'm sick of continually reading all the posts that are nothing more than a witch hunt for RC. It gets the discussion no where. Will everyone be happy when CW gets sick of it and closes the thread permanently?

[HouseOfClark]

It doesn't bother you that a mother who owed child support for her 2 children didn't bother to pay it? I'd bet if the roles were reversed and it was the father who owed it you'd be screaming deadbeat dad.

I don't give Crystal a free pass because she's a woman or had another baby, or got in a car wreck when she was already behind. She owed that money long before Haleigh disappeared so the "she had a child disappear" excuse doesn't work for me either. And in any other case that would have been motive and she'd have been the prime suspect.

Well, it doesn't appear to be the motive in THIS case.

Unless you know more than LE, the FBI, or FDLE because none of them have ever mentioned it. Heck, even Ron, nor Teresa Neves, nor GGSykes ever mentioned it.

It's time to move on from the issues that aren't related to what happened on or about 2/9-10/09.

JMO

[FrankieBones1]

Crystal lost custody...she isn't the primary custodial parent Ronald is and he is Jr's father...most father's I know want to set a good example for their sons and be a positive role model by being EMPLOYED!!!JMO

What site did you read this on? Crystal didn't lose custody. She and Ronald Cumming share custody equally.

[CFMom]

I'm sick of continually reading all the posts that are nothing more than a witch hunt for RC. It gets the discussion no where. Will everyone be happy when CW gets sick of it and closes the thread permanently?

I hope she doesnt but I wouldnt blame her.

[Destini]

Well, here's a legitimate news source video re: the second letter from NayNay to her mother, an interview where her sister talks about the family receiving it and her opinions. It's quite interesting actually if anyone wants to watch it. She doesn't seem quite convinced IMO.

The other links to the blogger site were just pictures of the letter itself as far as I remember

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=33794@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5

Notice at the end of the video GGM Sykes told the reporter last night (I think) that Ron & Misty are on vacation and together.

[HouseOfClark]

I agree, Candy. The people that hate Ronald Cummings are responsible. PDM had to distance themselves, unfortunately. I do believe that HaLeigh's dad has a good case against them.

"The people that hate Ronald Cummings are responsible"????

For what? Him not calling his job or asking for a leave of absence?

Who are these "people" you speak of?

[CFMom]

Well, it doesn't appear to be the motive in THIS case.

Unless you know more than LE, the FBI, or FDLE because none of them have ever mentioned it. Heck, even Ron, nor Teresa Neves, nor GGSykes ever mentioned it.

It's time to move on from the issues that aren't related to what happened on or about 2/9-10/09.

JMO

Its hard at this point with what is or isnt related. One minute a letter might solve the case..then nothing.

[CFMom]

"The people that hate Ronald Cummings are responsible"????

For what? Him not calling his job or asking for a leave of absence?

Who are these "people" you speak of?

I have no idea why Ron lost his job. Are you saying it was because he missed and didnt call in?

[CANDYKISSES]

Well, it doesn't appear to be the motive in THIS case.

Unless you know more than LE, the FBI, or FDLE because none of them have ever mentioned it. Heck, even Ron, nor Teresa Neves, nor GGSykes ever mentioned it.

It's time to move on from the issues that aren't related to what happened on or about 2/9-10/09.

JMO

We don't know what motives were considered by LE early on in this case and claiming to know such is fruitless IMO. It certainly would have been a consideration IMO and just because a kind stranger paid it off doesn't dismiss it either. Just like when the attorney on NG stated Ron going to the bottom of the list on POI's or SUSPECTS.

It's the same either way. Nothing can be ruled out UNTIL SUCH TIME AS the CRIME IS SOLVED from my perspective. I'd like to see this board move forward too, but tunnel vision keeps that from happening IMOO. :thumbdown:

[Elle]

Unless LE is being extra stealthy and flying completely under the radar (and it's a really big freaking radar) then I am led to believe nothing is panning out from the tip. I was looking at maps and pictures of the land and there is just so much water, so much brush, God I have no idea how they can ever search all there is. I am blown away by searchers civilian and LE alike who go out there. Does anyone know if Tim is still planning on coming back?

imoo

[HouseOfClark]

Well, here's a legitimate news source video re: the second letter from NayNay to her mother, an interview where her sister talks about the family receiving it and her opinions. It's quite interesting actually if anyone wants to watch it. She doesn't seem quite convinced IMO.

The other links to the blogger site were just pictures of the letter itself as far as I remember

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=33794@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5

Notice at the end of the video GGM Sykes told the reporter last night (I think) that Ron & Misty are on vacation and together.

The part you bolded wouldn't surprise me in the least. As far as anyone knows, he is standing behind Misty and her story. Even though LE has deemed it a "farce".

JMO

[KittyMom]

Ron told Greta he had custody. Crystal has visitation. Early in the case. SOURCE: Greta's show On the Record.

:confused:

You've done this many times. You mention where the info can be found and yet fail to site the source with a link. I believe that CW requested that links be provided. While it is time consuming to do so, it is what she's asked be done.

[CFMom]

The part you bolded wouldn't surprise me in the least. As far as anyone knows, he is standing behind Misty and her story. Even though LE has deemed it a "farce".

JMO

Well its reported he was standing with her to keep his enemies close. We will see hopefully one day when the truth is found.

[FrankieBones1]

Well, here's a legitimate news source video re: the second letter from NayNay to her mother, an interview where her sister talks about the family receiving it and her opinions. It's quite interesting actually if anyone wants to watch it. She doesn't seem quite convinced IMO.

The other links to the blogger site were just pictures of the letter itself as far as I remember

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=33794@wtev.dayport.com&navCatId=5

Notice at the end of the video GGM Sykes told the reporter last night (I think) that Ron & Misty are on vacation and together.
Thanks for the credible news link.
This video is very interesting. The teenager, is Kristina's sister. She reads Kristina's letter and says that she doesn't believe her sister was there that night as stated in the letter. She also doesn't believe that Misty was involved either, saying that she's known Misty since Misty was fourteen years old. I need to rewind and listen to the last part about Annette Sykes. Annette was not heard or seen on this video.

[HouseOfClark]

We don't know what motives were considered by LE early on in this case and claiming to know such is fruitless IMO. It certainly would have been a consideration IMO and just because a kind stranger paid it off doesn't dismiss it either. Just like when the attorney on NG stated Ron going to the bottom of the list on POI's or SUSPECTS.

It's the same either way. Nothing can be ruled out UNTIL SUCH TIME AS the CRIME IS SOLVED from my perspective. I'd like to see this board move forward too, but tunnel vision keeps that from happening IMOO. :thumbdown:

You're right, we don't know what motives were considered by LE. In fact, when they heard about the back support being owed and the contempt of court motion, you can guarantee they believed that that was the answer in to what had happened. A lot of us did.

However, if that were the case, it would have been easy to solve.

IMO, police are no longer considering back child support, child support in general, nor assigning any motives to Crystal and/or Chad for Haleigh's disappearance. Ron and Teresa both were very quick to tell LE that there had been NO custody disputes.

And I don't think what happened in 2005 up until 2/9/09, including court documents, drug arrests, or births of subsequent children have a darn thing to do with what happened to Haleigh.

JMO

[FrankieBones1]

Ron told Greta he had custody. Crystal has visitation. Early in the case. SOURCE: Greta's show On the Record.

:confused:

Was this the same night that Greta declared that Ronald Cummings is a violent person? I remember that Ronald was discussing the custody issue. He may not have mentioned 'Residential Custody".

[KittyMom]

How many times has Ron been on GVS? The link is NOT hard to find.

Why all the nit-picking today?

MO
If the link isn't that hard to find, then why not post it?

It isn't nit-picking. It's called following the rules. :confused:

[HouseOfClark]

I have no idea why Ron lost his job. Are you saying it was because he missed and didnt call in?

That's what PDM said.

[CFMom]

That's what PDM said.

Sad that they didnt understand that his kid was missing...but I also guess they need workers to keep the jobs going.

[KittyMom]

So you say. Imo, pages arguing about links and what's credible and what isn't is boring and distracting.

MO

There is no arguing. CW will read this thread, see that her rules are not being followed and close it. Then you can be bored and distracted with something else.

:patriot:

[HouseOfClark]

Sad that they didnt understand that his kid was missing...but I also guess they need workers to keep the jobs going.

They understood and sympathized with his circumstances and what he was dealing with. They said he could have received a leave of absence (which protects both of them) but he never asked and he never called them after Haleigh went missing. The leave of absence, or FMLA would have continued his job along with his benefits and any seniority he had acquired.



JMO

[CANDYKISSES]

PDM was inundated with calls from overly involved internet followers? How could you possibly know that? :huh:

Twitter and the tools associated with promoting it make it possible to keep abreast when internet posters are working together and there was mention of such in the archived postings here too iirc.

It was after LE came out and spoke about the calls coming in to them which were pointing to angry-ex's IIRC.

http://www.ocala.com/article/20090216/ARTICLES/902161002/1402/NEWS?Title=Ground_search_for_Haleigh_wraps_up_toda y


"We have gotten more than 500 leads so far," Ryan said, adding that many of the leads are angry ex-wives trying to get their former husbands in trouble.

He said there have been no sightings of Haleigh.

jmo :sneaky:

[CFMom]

They understood and sympathized with his circumstances and what he was dealing with. They said he could have received a leave of absence (which protects both of them) but he never asked and he never called them after Haleigh went missing. The leave of absence, or FMLA would have continued his job along with his benefits and any seniority he had acquired.



JMO

Wow. He really should have called in then.

[5boxersmom]

For those interested, Simons show will be starting in a couple of minutes.

Are they saying anything new? For some reason my computer shuts down when I try to listen.

tia

[CANDYKISSES]

What has that to do with your claim that PDM was inundated w/ calls from overly involved internet followers? :confused:

This is a cursory archive search for this board, and the twitter accounts have to be done on your own. While I understand the need to deny it, LE coming out with their statement reinforces what was going on at the time, and just a few captured here speak loud and clear IMO.

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/search.php?searchid=1171117

:wink:

[Dove]

You've done this many times. You mention where the info can be found and yet fail to site the source with a link. I believe that CW requested that links be provided. While it is time consuming to do so, it is what she's asked be done.

Post the link to CW saying this.

[CANDYKISSES]

Wow. He really should have called in then.

IIRC there was a discrepancy over who RC was checking in with, thus turning it over to an attorney. I don't have the link at my disposal right now, but do remember this coming up. JMO:blink:

That said, with all the controversy associated with this tragic case, RC should have been reading his employee handbook and making sure he crossed the T's and dotted the I's IMOO. :sad:

[CrimeWarrior]

Investigative journalist Art Harris and T.J. Hart, the investigator who adminstered the voice stress analysis test to Misty Cummings will be taking calls live on the latest news in the Haleigh Cummings case.

The show starts @ 10 PM EST / 9 CST

Here is the link: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LeviPage

[CFMom]

Investigative journalist Art Harris and T.J. Hart, the investigator who adminstered the voice stress analysis test to Misty Cummings will be taking calls live on the latest news in the Haleigh Cummings case.

The show starts @ 10 PM EST / 9 CST

Here is the link: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/LeviPage

I thought TJ Ward did the polys and that TJ Hart has the radio show.

[HenLee]

IIRC there was a discrepancy over who RC was checking in with, thus turning it over to an attorney. I don't have the link at my disposal right now, but do remember this coming up. JMO:blink:

That said, with all the controversy associated with this tragic case, RC should have been reading his employee handbook and making sure he crossed the T's and dotted the I's IMOO. :sad:
I think his Attorney handling his employment case is also in St. Augustine. I wonder if he is the one who got him his new attorney?

[Mamie]

I think his Attorney handling his employment case is also in St. Augustine. I wonder if he is the one who got him his new attorney?

Wow, I wonder why his supervisor didn't make a phone call to him or come and see him and advise him as to what he should do in taking a leave of absence. If that didn't happen, what would be the reason for it not happening? Would it be because employers no longer feel the need to do that or show any type of kindness to an employee who is suffering because his child is missing? Did they try to advise him but he shunned them? Was he not a valued employee? I guess what I'm trying to find out is how did it get to the point where RC needs an attorney to handle his employment case? RC had to know that he needed to report to his employer that he would not be there for awhile and why (to a degree) he wouldn't be there. JMO

[Chica]

Bull.....I am surrounded by men who take pride in the fact that they are providers of their families and that would be the first thing they would know they had to do, put food on the table. JMO

Just how many of these men surrounding you have a missing child?

[HouseOfClark]

IIRC there was a discrepancy over who RC was checking in with, thus turning it over to an attorney. I don't have the link at my disposal right now, but do remember this coming up. JMO:blink:

That said, with all the controversy associated with this tragic case, RC should have been reading his employee handbook and making sure he crossed the T's and dotted the I's IMOO. :sad:

No, there was no discrepancy over who he was checking in with. That was only opined by posters here. Nothing was ever mentioned by any employee of PDM that Ron had spoken with them in lieu of calling his supervisor or plant manager.

There is no link on this board (or any other) to any lawsuit filed by Ron or on behalf of Ron for wrongful termination.

JMO

[Chica]

Proof that he suffers from not knowing please?

I am appalled at this statement.

[Chica]

you have the source

I do not have the source that Ron is violent. I am very serious. If, you do, please link it because I have never seen evidence of violence. If you are referring to Tommy, I probably would have killed him. What evidence do you propose to have that shows Ron was violent before this tragedy of Haleigh going missing?

[CFMom]

Bull.....I am surrounded by men who take pride in the fact that they are providers of their families and that would be the first thing they would know they had to do, put food on the table. JMO

What happens to those women if the man should leave them or die? I was dependant on my husband too...big mistake. Women should learn to take care of themselves and never depend on a man to always be there. People die..life changes. IMo

[CFMom]

I do not have the source that Ron is violent. I am very serious. If, you do, please link it because I have never seen evidence of violence. If you are referring to Tommy, I probably would have killed him. What evidence do you propose to have that shows Ron was violent before this tragedy of Haleigh going missing?

Good question. To my knowledge all any one has on Rons temper is the Tommy fight. None of was there so who knows what really happen.

[CANDYKISSES]

I think his Attorney handling his employment case is also in St. Augustine. I wonder if he is the one who got him his new attorney?

St. Augustine seems to be coming up more and more lately, eh? :unsure: I don't know how his new attorney came to him, but hopefully it was a good choice. JMO.