Four People Murdered in VA College Town

[GentleBreeze]

Va. slayings suspect put violent rap songs on Web

One of several songs posted on his MySpace page under his stage name talks about the thrill of killing someone. A friend confirmed the site and the songs were McCroskey's.

"You're not the first, just to let you know. I've killed many people and I kill them real slow. It's the best feeling, watching their last breath. Stabbing and stabbing till there's nothing left," McCroskey sings in "My Dark Side."


http://tickermyfeed.com/news.php/MHx8ZnJlZQ==/va_slayings_suspect_put_violent_rap_songs_on_web

[momof6]

I wonder if he knew these people or if it was random.

I wonder why he was in Va. if he was from California.

I've never heard of the type of music he was into. It is scary music.

[GentleBreeze]

I wonder if he knew these people or if it was random.

I wonder why he was in Va. if he was from California.

I've never heard of the type of music he was into. It is scary music.

I dont know but they have him charged with robbery and other charges.

So I dont know if it was a home invasion or if he knew them.

imo

[aproudmom]

omg how scary...:scared:

[GentleBreeze]

Police captured a young California man at Richmond International Airport yesterday and charged him in the slayings of four people at the Farmville home of a Longwood University professor.

Farmville police confirmed only the identity of Mark Niederbrock, pastor at Walker's Presbyterian Church in the Hixburg area of Appomattox County, among the victims found Friday at the home of Debra S. Kelley, a Longwood professor from whom he was separated. The other victims were females, police said.

Kelley and Niederbrock have a daughter, Emma. Another teen was believed to be visiting at the home.
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http://www2.timesdispatch.com/rtd/news/state_regional/article/FARMUP_20090919-234403/294271/

[kelloggirl]

Although I know Richmond is on complete other side of the state from Blacksburg where that Virginia Tech couple was shot in the woods, I wonder if this guy is being looked at as a suspect for that. I would say if he drove or made his way across the country, it's a possibility, albeit a remote one. However, if he flew into Richmond from CA its highly unlikely.

[Lynden1000]

What an evil freak. I wonder what his motive was? It seems like this is headed in the direction of "thrill kill."

[zippy]

What an evil freak. I wonder what his motive was? It seems like this is headed in the direction of "thrill kill."

http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/09/four_found_dead_at_longwood_un.php#more

[zippy]

When this was first posted, his My Space was available and the daughter Emma was just beyond herself awaiting his arrival. She was posting and counting the days he would be there.

[hunoz]

My granddaughter goes to Longwood University in Farmville, Va. Her boyfriend is a criminal justice major and had the professor. Her daughter was interested in that horrorap. They had been e-mailing each other. Had gone to a concert with her friend that was staying with her. The girlfriends mother called the house brecause she hadn't heard from her daughter in days, and the killer answered the phone and said the girls were at the movies. He had already purchased round trip tickets, so apparently something set him off and he killed them all. He was at the airport in Richmond, trying to get his return ticket time changed,but he didn't have the $150. exchange rate. He was asleep in the airport when they arrested him. Sorry I'm rambling, but it's late and I just saw this thread after being on the Caylee Anthony one. My carpell tunnel is making my fingers too numb to type.

[TexanLisa]

My granddaughter goes to Longwood University in Farmville, Va. Her boyfriend is a criminal justice major and had the professor. Her daughter was interested in that horrorap. They had been e-mailing each other. Had gone to a concert with her friend that was staying with her. The girlfriends mother called the house brecause she hadn't heard from her daughter in days, and the killer answered the phone and said the girls were at the movies. He had already purchased round trip tickets, so apparently something set him off and he killed them all. He was at the airport in Richmond, trying to get his return ticket time changed,but he didn't have the $150. exchange rate. He was asleep in the airport when they arrested him. Sorry I'm rambling, but it's late and I just saw this thread after being on the Caylee Anthony one. My carpell tunnel is making my fingers too numb to type.


I find your laughing icon HIGHLY inappropriate.

[desmom]

I find your laughing icon HIGHLY inappropriate.

After reading her post, IMO, it was not intentional.

[ItIsMe]

My husband and I both knew Mark from teen to our mid-20s and we just learned of his murder today, and are just horrified. Of course, we're searching for a how? why? and our biggest shock (other than just simply the killings, of course) is that Mark and his wife would allow Emma to be so out of control. We are the parents of a 20-year old son, and just can't figure how they could let her be so 'out there.'

On one webpage, there were detailed comments from one of his church members saying that Emma ran the house, as her parents only wanted to please her and give her everything she desired. This could explain not saying no to a number of scenarios that came to pass in this tragedy.

The comments also stated that Emma was very 'wild' and was being home-schooled to try to calm her down (keep her from bad influences?). She apparently dyed her hair every couple of weeks and was really out there with her clothing (not that this is bad, but for a preacher's kid, it's not great!).

This made us think that perhaps he felt that, if he let Emma be 'wild' under supervision (with the parents taking she and Melanie to the horrorcore concert in Michigan, having Sam stay in the family home, etc.), that she would grow out of the crazy period in her life.

I also gathered, from reading numerous articles, that Mark no longer lived in the family home (just Debra and Emma lived there) and he apparently lives on the outskirts of town in a rental of some type. I also gathered that he went to the house, when he was concerned that he couldn't reach the ladies. Perhaps they were already dead (why 2 bodies were so decomposed) and was then killed when showing up a day or more later.

Wwe are just stunned, and, at 52, my husband had really been shaken up realizing that he needs to begin to stay in touch with people that have mattered to him over the years.

I found posted, if it is accurate, two of Melanie's 'poems' http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/014308.html about 3/4 of the way down. I found one of the 'poems' quoted elsewhere, but can't verify either, as the MySpace pages have been taken down.

Thanks for 'listening.'

[RootBeer]

(CNN) -- Elizabeth McCutchen and a friend were walking to book club two weeks ago in quaint Farmville, Virginia, when they strolled by a home on First Avenue. "Something smells dead," her friend said.

They were thinking animal. A dog, a cat, something like that. They never imagined they were smelling the remains of massacred humans. It was Thursday, September 17. But another 24 hours would pass before police made the gruesome discovery.



http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/06/virginia.horrorcore.killings/index.html

[birdwatch]

Sounds like he is working on his insanity defense already. "Jesus told me to do it"..... Uh huh :angry:

[aubrey04]

I read about this case a few weeks ago and it is very disturbing..Also, went to the myspace pages of the girls who were murdered and looked at the myspace pages of their friends. They're all into that "horrorcore" culture.

I had never heard about it before, but it is extremely disturbing. They rap about mutilations and cannibalism.. just really sick stuff.

Anyway, the defense is going to have a tough time considering the background of Richard McCroskey, who was obviously obsessed with murder..

[Ozymandias46]

VERY disturbing! How could the family not know their own daughter was involved in an underground movement like that?:confused:

[Martek]

VERY disturbing! How could the family not know their own daughter was involved in an underground movement like that?:confused:

I think they did know.

I think I recall reading articles on this where they said that just recently one of the parents attended a "horrorcore" concert with their daughter to keep an eye on her.

Sorry, but I don't have any links, and so maybe I am remembering something else...

Martek

[Clara Harris]

I think they did know.

I think I recall reading articles on this where they said that just recently one of the parents attended a "horrorcore" concert with their daughter to keep an eye on her.

Sorry, but I don't have any links, and so maybe I am remembering something else...

Martek


They did know. At least one parent drove daughter, her friend and the internet boyfriend to a show in MI. It was the first real life meeting btwn daughter & bf. It is so sad. She was only 16.

I can't make sense of locals claiming a "smell" but LE didn't pick up on it when they entered the home that Thur (IIRC) It is said to be overwhelming like nothing else the 1st time once sniffs it and unmistakeable if you ever smell it a 2nd time. Fortunately, I don't know from experience. I can't imegaine what made that boy snap in such a violent way.

[Jayne]

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I can't imegaine what made that boy snap in such a violent way.

It seems that he snapped a long time ago. If he said Jesus made him do it, it's more like Satan made him do it. How anyone could get into those kind of lyrics, feelings, attitudes, etc. and then say Jesus made him do it - is more manipulative than many may imagine. (I'd say he knew darned well that Jesus didn't make him do it...he found a victim..the daughter of a minister - a Jesus follower (Bless his soul..the Dad, and the wife and two children, too). His defense attorney must have a hard time sleeping at night - and then to say he (the kid) doesn't "get" the seriousness of what happened. Of course not - he didn't take life seriously, IMO.

There is "no" smell like that..it overwhelms you - nauseating - definitely brings on vomiting for many. God Bless the LE who have to endure this so many times - to take control of a crime scene. It may be that the bodies had not decomposed to that extent on Thursday?

This single Mom must have been trying her best to have "control" of her daughter..perhaps "befriend" her? But to allow a kid, with that background and into that stuff come out of nowhere/internet to spend time and go to a concert of that stuff, floors me - the boy is 20..the daughter was 16 - yet - I can somewhat sympathize with her.

I've taken Risks..meeting people I've met online, but they were the good people who post on these threads. Never, would I have someone my kid "chats" with on the internet come to my house..where I live alone (or even if I didn't) to "visit" and attend a concert that I wouldn't approve no..no matter if it would make the daughter happy. Yet, I can sort of understand, perhaps, why the Mom allowed it. I wouldn't take my kid to any such concert, let alone an internet friend, but..there but for the Grace of God, go I. Far from perfect..and often more lenient than I should be.

Kids are very crafty with computers..they can "hack" into things..look totally "innocent" or just "interested". I've used several different "Parental Controls" programs..and I can tell you..maybe I'm wrong..but they're only as smart as the Parent. If a kid pushes you to "turn it on"..you turn it on..yes? Or you suffer the consequences...your house turned upside down - you call the authorities..or you back down and then the kid is in control. I probably should stop preaching about the internet and games, etc. But, I honestly do believe it is at the crux of a lot of problems with kids (and adults) these days. It's the non-paid babysitter, or the "after school program" or (OK..don't slam me..as I've explained my Latch Key thing)..the Key to Something To Do until Mom and/or Dad gets home..then it's hurry up and make dinner..do the baths..get to bed..what happened the prior few hours..no clue. NOT with ALL KIDS..I'm not saying that..but it happens.

This is very very Sad.

jmo

J

[Clara Harris]

Hi Jayne -

The reason I was asking about LE not picking up on the smell. IIRC, some neighbors noted the smell walking by on Thursday. The tow truck driver claims he had to hang his head out the window when the murderer got in his cab after the 4am wreck. I don't know if they embellished or not.

LE went to the house 2x on Thursday. Once at request of the friend's mom. I think the the parents drove from WV (Wed or Thur) to pick their daughter up and waited around town for many hours trying to find their daughter then drove back to their hometown and reported her missing. Syko told LE the teen was at the movies. The 2nd visit was after that Syko called 911 b/c he thought he heard someone trying to break in the basemejnt. LE went in the basement and said there was extreme amounts of animal feces :confused:

When LE returned on Friday looking for the teen again, they found them 3 of them murdered. The 4th was somewhere else They say the brutality of the scene was overwhelming.

All of the above is just what I recall from the Richmond paper and the WV hometown paper of the friend. I may have gotten some wrong.

I don't think LE could have saved any of them and I don't blame anyone other than psycho Syko. I just can't imagine a Reverand and/or criminal justice prof being so permissive. They seemed to be trying hard to keep their daughter happy and close to them. It's seems sometimes "no" is a dirty word. But taking her to MI for that horrorcore "concert??" It's none of biz, but I really want to know why.

I hope justice prevails and the families of the victims can find some way to heal. :rose:

[Jayne]

Clare...this case has me so perplexed..for many of the same reasons you apparently are (and so many others, of course).

On YouTube..here is a video in tribute to Emma and Melanie (I didn't post it here..wasn't sure I should) and a lot of Syko's videos and that adult producer character..what a Piece of Work he is.

The one showing the two girls..speaks Volumes. Again, as I've said..I'm no Model parent (single one, as well)..but there is NO WAY, I would allow my child to dress like that..associate with others like that. I don't care what the Hippy Generation was..I grew up at the end of it and never did that stuff, but it wasn't all that bad..but for the drugs and rampant sexual activity (OK..that wasn't great!)..but THIS is entirely different..when it involves music and attitude that has no remorse and no value to human life..it is not Flower Power..it seems to be Death Wish. (my analogy).

jmo

J

[Jayne]

here is something pretty scary, IMO.

http://www.horror-core.blogspot.com

I was trying to find more information on this case and it led me to this...the boy belonged to the "cult". So..OK many say it wasn't the Music that did it..it was the boy..but listen to this..IF YOU CAN...it will send chills down your spine..then say the Music had Nothing to do with it. It was definitely a BIG SIGN and part of it, IMO.

I'm a music teacher..and I know how music can Move People..help them learn, do better in academics, connect with God (worship music directing - praising God)..so I see how it can Influence people. I may be wrong..but I don't think so. How could a Normal, Loving, Caring person listen to this stuff and like it? Then..how can a Lost or Questioning person listen to this stuff and get caught up in it? Friends...online chats...too much time on their hands and not much in their hearts and brains? Yes..I am opinionated on some things..and this is one (along with violent games).

I think he may well have singled out this girl..daughter of a Minister..living at home..single Mom..easy targets and fit the purpose..perhaps the Dad (and perhaps Mom) were the first two victims..then because the girl was distraught, he figured..she was still a Christian..so she goes too...then her girlfriend.

jmo

J

(then found another http://www.timesoftheinternet.com/119729.html that seems to imply the NH murder and the girl's maiming may be connected to the suspect's connections with the same horrorcore "stuff"..among much others, I'm sure)

[aubrey04]

This is truly sick. I can't believe the youtube videos where people mock the deceased. I don't know why Emma's parents were so tolerant of her decisions-- IE, taking her to this concert and letting this vile stranger come stay in their house.

I know a lot of us on here are interested in true crime, but these people are glorifying it. It is downright disgusting and vile. I can't imagine any decent human being with morals/values listening to such hate-filled, toxic garbage.

BTW, that music is worthless. There is no creativity in it whatsoever, especially the "dedication" song to Syko Sam - which has the "rapper" repeating the same things over and over for 3 minutes.

[hunoz]

I find your laughing icon HIGHLY inappropriate.

I find the laughing icon inappropriate, also. I'm not sure how it got there-guess I accidently hit it, and I wasn't able to delete. I appreciate Desmom's following post realizing it was unintentional.