9/19 -9/20 Weekend Thread [Archive] - Page 2

Julie Dupree

09-20-2009, 03:17 PM

What I want to know is if Baez is saying C&G are part of the defense team and they went of national TV and discussed the case does that me Casey is breaking privilege. If Baez uses the reason that George is a part of the defense thus his GJ testimony can't be used then he must be saying the Casey broke privilege by letting them talk on TV.

Oh how I would like to believe this Bala.
But I don't think Casey "let them talk".
I don't think anyone could have kept them from it.
Lots of people have tried, including Mark NeJames. Not sure if BC has tried to put a zipper on their mouth...but if he did, it obviously didn't work.

Julie Dupree

09-20-2009, 03:20 PM

Cool
$30.00 per person if I mention the travel channel I can get an extra 10% off.
OK ladies let's saddle up.
I would love to buzz their house a few times!

I bet if you could "sell" some of the pictures, you could make some money:)
Not so sure the Travel Channel would be interested, but maybe one of the news channels.

need2no

09-20-2009, 03:20 PM

Hummmmm???
I wonder if maybe this is one of the things that AL would like to "help" them settle by encouraging a "visit" without cameras?

Could be...no doubt AL wants to see HONEST interaction between casey and her parents, and get a true picture of the overall family dynamics. She may welcome a blow out in order to gauge how they communicate.

It would be quite enjoyable to watch this play out....

casey Mom I keep hearing y'all are making loads of money doing interviews, selling pics and video. Remember Caylee was MY daughter, and I don't won't you selling any of MY pics and stuff to the #**&!^&*media. They have miscontrued everything and are trying to ruin my life. Besides I should be the one profiting, not y'all.

Cindy casey don't you understand we need to make money to pay for all these professionals to get you out of here. Isn't that what you want sweetheart?

casey THAT'S BS mom. I've been in here for almost a freakin year, Do you know how hard this is on ME...everything has been taken away from me. Do you understand?

Cindy But honey who's fault is that? If you hadn't lied........

casey Just shut up mom! Just shut up and listen to me. I see all your new clothes, jewelry, your tan, and hear about your trips to NY, CA and all the other places. I know about your appearance on 48 Hours and I'm sure you made some big bucks. You best be putting some of that d*mn money away for me when I get out of this place! Baez said if I can hold on for just a short while longer I will be sitting on a nice beach somewhere, and you best have that money sat aside for me to take on my long vacation to relax after the h*ll I've been through!

Cindy Don't worry sweetheart we will handle everything...you have nothing to worry about. Just trust us, we are doing all of this for you.

casey Well you could at least bring me something decent to wear to court. Don't you know how many people are looking at ME. That crap you bring doesn't even fit me!

Cindy But honey I need to look nice too, do you have any idea of all the pics the media take of ME. Anyway we can't afford to spend much on your court clothes, we need that money for your defense expenses. And besides...you just keep getting larger everytime we see you so I don't even know what size to bring anymore. Maybe if you'd lose a little weight the clothes would look better. By the way have you noticed how much weight I've lost. All this stress and worry plus my busy media schedule has caused me not to be able to eat or sleep. I have to go to the tanning bed every week cause I hardly even have time for the pool anymore.

:biggrin:

need2no

09-20-2009, 03:23 PM

:)Nah....I don't think anyone would ever think such a thing about you.
You seem to be a very level headed, compassion, intelligent, trustworthy, law abiding person. Vindictive, not even on your worst day.

Awww...thanks Julie, that was nice of you to say. :wub:

martha

09-20-2009, 03:25 PM

You guys are REALLY trying to get me to go Missing...They still have the camera's up. Not taking that chance nope not me.:sneaky: No sweetie we do not want you to get into any trouble and if you did we would all be there for you. I know we ask you something maybe we should not ask you but we just can;t help but want to know what is going on at the crazy house. if the camera or still there maybe one day they will show us the house again and if we can see the back yard we will know if they still have all of Caylee;s stuff. I don;t see how the milsteans and lee and mallory and c and g or all geting into that house with all the stuff I seen it it. My house is a mess but now where like cindy is. they have so much in there until they can;t find their bed. cindy is no clean freak. casey;s had a room full of stuff like heart stickers.and just junk. POOR CAYLEE;S room was full of stuff that they could buy her and keep her busy out of theri way. jmho:wub:

Julie Dupree

09-20-2009, 03:25 PM

Could be...no doubt AL wants to see HONEST interaction between casey and her parents, and get a true picture of the overall family dynamics. She may welcome a blow out in order to gauge how they communicate.

It would be quite enjoyable to watch this play out....

casey Mom I keep hearing y'all are making loads of money doing interviews, selling pics and video. Remember Caylee was MY daughter, and I don't won't you selling any of MY pics and stuff to the #**&!^&*media. They have miscontrued everything and are trying to ruin my life. Besides I should be the one profiting, not y'all.

Cindy casey don't you understand we need to make money to pay for all these professionals to get you out of here. Isn't that what you want sweetheart?

casey THAT'S BS mom. I've been in here for almost a freakin year, Do you know how hard this is on ME...everything has been taken away from me. Do you understand?

Cindy But honey who's fault is that? If you hadn't lied........

casey Just shut up mom! Just shut up and listen to me. I see all your new clothes, jewelry, your tan, and hear about your trips to NY, CA and all the other places. I know about your appearance on 48 Hours and I'm sure you made some big bucks. You best be putting some of that d*mn money away for me when I get out of this place! Baez said if I can hold on for just a short while longer I will be sitting on a nice beach somewhere, and you best have that money sat aside for me to take on my long vacation to relax after the h*ll I've been through!

Cindy Don't worry sweetheart we will handle everything...you have nothing to worry about. Just trust us, we are doing all of this for you.

casey Well you could at least bring me something decent to wear to court. Don't you know how many people are looking at ME. That crap you bring doesn't even fit me!

Cindy But honey I need to look nice too, do you have any idea of all the pics the media take of ME. Anyway we can't afford to spend much on your court clothes, we need that money for your defense expenses. And besides...you just keep getting larger everytime we see you so I don't even know what size to bring anymore. Maybe if you'd lose a little weight the clothes would look better. By the way have you noticed how much weight I've lost. All this stress and worry plus my busy media schedule has caused me not to be able to eat or sleep. I have to go to the tanning bed every week cause I hardly even have time for the pool anymore.

:biggrin:

:wub:You are a very talented genius!!!!
This is EXACTLY how I think the conversation would go.
You go Girl!!!

really3997

09-20-2009, 03:27 PM

That would be a Hoot! You, Really and me hanging off one the rungs taking pics of the A's house.
How much would it cost?:sneaky:

:scared: But I could fall in the yard then I will be left there just me and the hibiscus bush. and then mushroom head and scary eyebrow man will make me go missing. How come in all of your plans REALLY ends up missing:crying:

Jeepers

09-20-2009, 03:28 PM

I bet if you could "sell" some of the pictures, you could make some money:)
Not so sure the Travel Channel would be interested, but maybe one of the news channels.

Yeah we would be celebrities make some pictures and sell them to get money for our defense team. Oh my bad... that was Casey's line.
I need more eyeshadow.

cassidy

09-20-2009, 03:29 PM

Can you imagine being an IRS agent, and being assigned to audit her taxes?

I was just thinking the same thing. The poor agent would probably run screaming from the house as Cindy tried to explain why every square inch of her house was used for foundation business.

need2no

09-20-2009, 03:29 PM

That would be a Hoot! You, Really and me hanging off one the rungs taking pics of the A's house.
How much would it cost?:sneaky:

:biggrin: Yippee!!

But all jokes aside, I bet we could sell the pics to the media if something noticable has changed in their backyard, OR if Cindy, George, Lee, or the Milsteads are in the yard when we fly over.

Maybe they've had a big inground pool and hot tub installed, complete with a cabana and outdoor kitchen in place of Caylee's toys.

need2no

09-20-2009, 03:30 PM

really3997

09-20-2009, 03:32 PM

I was just thinking the same thing. The poor agent would probably run screaming from the house as Cindy tried to explain why every square inch of her house was used for foundation business.

I picture it more like

IRS... Am I intimidating you?

Cindy... No am I intimidating you?

Geoge...:shrug:

Julie Dupree

09-20-2009, 03:34 PM

I was just thinking the same thing. The poor agent would probably run screaming from the house as Cindy tried to explain why every square inch of her house was used for foundation business.

What a visual this brings up...
mumbling to himself..."my mother told me there would be days like this"
as he writes his resignation letter.
I don't write script as well as :) some people, but you get the gest.

Julie Dupree

09-20-2009, 03:35 PM

I picture it more like

IRS... Am I intimidating you?

Cindy... No am I intimidating you?

Geoge...:shrug:

Yeah, what really said:)

Jeepers

09-20-2009, 03:37 PM

:scared: But I could fall in the yard then I will be left there just me and the hibiscus bush. and then mushroom head and scary eyebrow man will make me go missing. How come in all of your plans REALLY ends up missing:crying:

Oh Hush Really! just hang on and I will tie a string around you! You are not gonna fall into the bush I promise. Honest, Trust me! I want to be straight up I would not let you fall into the evil clutches of mushroom head or the scary eyebrow man. Don't cry Really I got cha just hold onto the little stringy I got here.

Numbers

09-20-2009, 03:37 PM

What I want to know is if Baez is saying C&G are part of the defense team and they went of national TV and discussed the case does that me Casey is breaking privilege. If Baez uses the reason that George is a part of the defense thus his GJ testimony can't be used then he must be saying the Casey broke privilege by letting them talk on TV.

I don't think George's "working for the defense" is in any official capacity. He's just helping Jose as he can (background info, for instance), not doing anything *legal* that would mean he gets to be part of the attorney/client privilege.

Jeepers

09-20-2009, 03:39 PM

:biggrin: Yippee!!

But all jokes aside, I bet we could sell the pics to the media if something noticable has changed in their backyard, OR if Cindy, George, Lee, or the Milsteads are in the yard when we fly over.

Maybe they've had a big inground pool and hot tub installed, complete with a cabana and outdoor kitchen in place of Caylee's toys.

Now I really want to know if their yard has changed. I wonder if Caylee room is now part of the FRAUDATION office space.:cursing:

Julie Dupree

09-20-2009, 03:44 PM

Now I really want to know if their yard has changed. I wonder if Caylee room is now part of the FRAUDATION office space.:cursing:

I remember I had a very hard time after my dad died getting everything of his packed away. Took me a long time. I know if I lost my little 3 yr old grand daughter, I don't think I could go thru putting her things away.
I wonder how the Anthony's were able to get this done, if they have where they put her things?
But most of all, I wonder if they ever reflect why she is not there and wonder "what if"???

Daffodil

09-20-2009, 03:50 PM

I don't think George's "working for the defense" is in any official capacity. He's just helping Jose as he can (background info, for instance), not doing anything *legal* that would mean he gets to be part of the attorney/client privilege.

Sorry, but I must have missed something. When did George and Cindy become part of the defense? Is there a link I can read? TIA!!!

Jeepers

09-20-2009, 04:00 PM

I remember I had a very hard time after my dad died getting everything of his packed away. Took me a long time. I know if I lost my little 3 yr old grand daughter, I don't think I could go thru putting her things away.
I wonder how the Anthony's were able to get this done, if they have where they put her things?
But most of all, I wonder if they ever reflect why she is not there and wonder "what if"???

Julie, I kid around alot but, with what you just wrote makes me soo sad. I still have little things from past love ones in every room of my house when I walk from room to room I always think of them. Time does heal but sometimes my heart just cannot hold back.
My mind just cannot go where the A's are. I am proud to say that.
The things they have said and done could never come from me. I am just not wired that way.
I have also wondered if they ever have a quiet moment that they reflect on Caylee and the evilness of their daughter. Do they ever have a real moment. In their moments have they ever thought how quiet their house is, the baby smells, Caylee would really be talking now the funny cute things she would be doing.
I just wonder about that alot.
The what if - would just send me over the edge.

Jeepers

09-20-2009, 04:08 PM

I gotta leave for now. Be Back later.

Be Safe

bchand

09-20-2009, 04:28 PM

Sorry, but I must have missed something. When did George and Cindy become part of the defense? Is there a link I can read? TIA!!!

Daffodil - it came from this article:

Prosecution Wants George Anthony's Grand Jury Testimony

Prosecutors presented the grand jury case and George is working with the defense team, so both sides likely already know a lot about the testimony, which is supposed to be secret.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20991571/detail.html

happygert

09-20-2009, 04:46 PM

I remember I had a very hard time after my dad died getting everything of his packed away. Took me a long time. I know if I lost my little 3 yr old grand daughter, I don't think I could go thru putting her things away.
I wonder how the Anthony's were able to get this done, if they have where they put her things?
But most of all, I wonder if they ever reflect why she is not there and wonder "what if"???

Julie I lost a son when he was 3 years 6 mos and 13 days old.. My husband and family decided to put his things away when I was gone to DR. office I came home and blew a gasket!.( I was 3 months preg at the time). I used to go and smell his clothes and hold on to things that he dearly loved..just sit in his room.. (My family thought this was very unhealthy for me.). You can imagine the horror I felt when everything was gone.. I made them get everything and put it back.. Unitl I was ready to pack his thing up.. However I dont see george and cindy having any real attachment to Caylee.. Therefore what is Caylee's in that house imo is already on the auction block or picthed.. IMO its already got a price on everything that was hers..and what dont have a price tag is in the trash.. The things out back are probably still for the neighbors to see.. wouldnt want them to see all Caylee's things in back yard gone.. IMO there for appearences..

28 years later I still have some of his things. will keep them forever

seeing_eye

09-20-2009, 05:12 PM

really, do you think that Cindy has tossed the "house rules" or do they just take advantage when Cindy is away?

Cindy may not have the same standard with a son as she has with a daughter.

Julie Dupree

09-20-2009, 05:23 PM

Julie I lost a son when he was 3 years 6 mos and 13 days old.. My husband and family decided to put his things away when I was gone to DR. office I came home and blew a gasket!.( I was 3 months preg at the time). I used to go and smell his clothes and hold on to things that he dearly loved..just sit in his room.. (My family thought this was very unhealthy for me.). You can imagine the horror I felt when everything was gone.. I made them get everything and put it back.. Unitl I was ready to pack his thing up.. However I dont see george and cindy having any real attachment to Caylee.. Therefore what is Caylee's in that house imo is already on the auction block or picthed.. IMO its already got a price on everything that was hers..and what dont have a price tag is in the trash.. The things out back are probably still for the neighbors to see.. wouldnt want them to see all Caylee's things in back yard gone.. IMO there for appearences..

28 years later I still have some of his things. will keep them forever

((:wub:))
If Caylee had some of what is in you gert, we would not be here.
Maybe she has found some of this love.

Daffodil

09-20-2009, 05:54 PM

Daffodil - it came from this article:

Prosecution Wants George Anthony's Grand Jury Testimony

Prosecutors presented the grand jury case and George is working with the defense team, so both sides likely already know a lot about the testimony, which is supposed to be secret.

http://www.wftv.com/news/20991571/detail.html

Thanks Bchand! Wow, just that one little tiny statement. He is working for the defense? Boy, am I ever confused!!!! Does it need to be on record somewhere? I am surprised but not shocked.

TunaMelt

09-20-2009, 06:03 PM

Thanks Bchand! Wow, just that one little tiny statement. He is working for the defense? Boy, am I ever confused!!!! Does it need to be on record somewhere? I am surprised but not shocked.

I don't think George is on the payroll exactly. I think whomever wrote that article/blurb should go back to journalism school, though.

George is undoubtedly cooperating in any way with the defense -- we already figured that out. But as for being an employee of Jose, no I don't think that's what was meant.

I do think media outlets ought to put a leash on their copywriters -- so many do so much damage with their sloppy writing.

happygert

09-20-2009, 06:11 PM

((:wub:))
If Caylee had some of what is in you gert, we would not be here.
Maybe she has found some of this love.

I sure she has.. She's found the love she craved and needed here on earth..No one will ever hurt her again..

Pam1569

09-20-2009, 06:38 PM

No, don't want you go to missing. I just did not know if when a car passed by their house if the playhouse was visible from the backyard.
:scared:

Good evening Jeepers I didn't know if you have been answered yet, but I checked the aerial view of their yard on whitepages.com and it doesn't look to me that Caylee's house is there anymore. :(

Just do a reverse look up on their address and the map is on the bottom right and click aerial view, then click the plus sign to zoom in. Sorry can't give you a link for some reason my copy/paste isn't working.

happygert

09-20-2009, 06:43 PM

Good evening Jeepers I didn't know if you have been answered yet, but I checked the aerial view of their yard on whitepages.com and it doesn't look to me that Caylee's house is there anymore. :(

Just do a reverse look up on their address and the map is on the bottom right and click aerial view, then click the plus sign to zoom in. Sorry can't give you a link for some reason my copy/paste isn't working.

Well I guess I was wrong then.. I guess the outward appearences don't make a crap to them either..I figured they'd leave the things outside.. You can bet your bottom dollar if her playhouse is gone then her things have been priced to sell and the rest have been trashed..jmho..

desmom

09-20-2009, 06:47 PM

Good evening Jeepers I didn't know if you have been answered yet, but I checked the aerial view of their yard on whitepages.com and it doesn't look to me that Caylee's house is there anymore. :(

Just do a reverse look up on their address and the map is on the bottom right and click aerial view, then click the plus sign to zoom in. Sorry can't give you a link for some reason my copy/paste isn't working.

Where the arrow is pointing, I think is the neighbor's house. Their driveway is on the opposite end and their house has a screened porch. I think there house is the one above it. jmo

Pam1569

09-20-2009, 06:49 PM

Well I guess I was wrong then.. I guess the outward appearences don't make a crap to them either..I figured they'd leave the things outside.. You can bet your bottom dollar if her playhouse is gone then her things have been priced to sell and the rest have been trashed..jmho..

Hi Happy, I don't think it matters to them at all what others think of them. They, especially Cindy, hold themselves so high up. That is why they are above the normal laws. jmo

Pam1569

09-20-2009, 06:51 PM

Where the arrow is pointing, I think is the neighbor's house. Their driveway is on the opposite end and their house has a screened porch. I think there house is the one above it. jmo

Hi desmom, Your right it is the house above the arrow, the pool is there and their screened patio is there, but none of Caylee's things are there anymore.

KittyMom

09-20-2009, 06:56 PM

Julie I lost a son when he was 3 years 6 mos and 13 days old.. My husband and family decided to put his things away when I was gone to DR. office I came home and blew a gasket!.( I was 3 months preg at the time). I used to go and smell his clothes and hold on to things that he dearly loved..just sit in his room.. (My family thought this was very unhealthy for me.). You can imagine the horror I felt when everything was gone.. I made them get everything and put it back.. Unitl I was ready to pack his thing up.. However I dont see george and cindy having any real attachment to Caylee.. Therefore what is Caylee's in that house imo is already on the auction block or picthed.. IMO its already got a price on everything that was hers..and what dont have a price tag is in the trash.. The things out back are probably still for the neighbors to see.. wouldnt want them to see all Caylee's things in back yard gone.. IMO there for appearences..

28 years later I still have some of his things. will keep them forever

(((hugs))) You're reaction was totally normal.

Abnormal is to eat crab cakes, get a tattoo, dance on a pole, design/sell bears, etc. Just once I'd like to see that family do the normal thing.

desmom

09-20-2009, 06:59 PM

Hi desmom, Your right it is the house above the arrow, the pool is there and their screened patio is there, but none of Caylee's things are there anymore.

Thanks Pam. :seeya:

From this video http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=2963763&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html?sPage=fnc/ontherecord/caylee and these pics: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/Stories/Local/CAYLEE%20BACK%20YARD.jpg (playhouse moved - I think it normally sits in the corner of the fence) and http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/casey_anthony_murder_trial_places_of_interest.html (scroll down) vs the white pages aerial view (http://www.whitepages.com/maps/directions?lower=1&search_id=65201382764781846863 ), the bamboo has really gotten out of hand. jmo

gaelicpeas

09-20-2009, 06:59 PM

Where the arrow is pointing, I think is the neighbor's house. Their driveway is on the opposite end and their house has a screened porch. I think there house is the one above it. jmoI agree - one house above.

Numbers

09-20-2009, 07:00 PM

Thanks Bchand! Wow, just that one little tiny statement. He is working for the defense? Boy, am I ever confused!!!! Does it need to be on record somewhere? I am surprised but not shocked.

Don't mistake "working with" with "working for." Of course he's working with the defense - it's his daughter's life at stake. He is not working *for* the defense in any formal capacity.

Pam1569

09-20-2009, 07:10 PM

Thanks Pam. :seeya:

From this video http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=2963763&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,398490,00.html?sPage=fnc/ontherecord/caylee and these pics: http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedImages/Stories/Local/CAYLEE%20BACK%20YARD.jpg (playhouse moved - I think it normally sits in the corner of the fence) and http://www.cayleemarieanthony.net/casey_anthony_murder_trial_places_of_interest.html (scroll down) vs the white pages aerial view (http://www.whitepages.com/maps/directions?lower=1&search_id=65201382764781846863 ), the bamboo has really gotten out of hand. jmo

Thanks desmom, Those are really good links to their back yard. I do agree that their backyard has become really over grown with vegetation. I guess that they are to busy with all of their daughters defense and the talk shows and etc to take care of their own yard anymore. But I still don't think her doll house is there anymore. jmo

happygert

09-20-2009, 07:13 PM

Hi Happy, I don't think it matters to them at all what others think of them. They, especially Cindy, hold themselves so high up. That is why they are above the normal laws. jmo

Hi Pam, yes you're right they could care less.. Yes they think the laws that apply to everyone else does NOT apply to them..

Numbers

09-20-2009, 07:54 PM

Sprocket has the second part of her analysis of the defense motions up. Interesting reading.

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/

desmom

09-20-2009, 07:57 PM

Sprocket has the second part of her analysis of the defense motions up. Interesting reading.

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/

Thanks Numbers!

Here is part 1 http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2009/09/casey-anthony-defense-files-more.html for those that may have missed it.

desmom

09-20-2009, 08:12 PM

Sprocket has the second part of her analysis of the defense motions up. Interesting reading.

http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/

Great read! Thanks again.

IMO, the people that were in the area of Caylee's remains were not searching in the correct area. If for some reason one of them was in the exact area unless they saw the skull I do not think they would have recognized a bone that had been exposed to the elements.

I think when the prosecution starts showing pictures of the different locations of Caylee's bones, the condition of the bones, the size of the bones and how they blended into the undergrowth, the jury will understand how a searcher could have easily overlooked them.

jmo

Daffodil

09-20-2009, 08:32 PM

I don't think George is on the payroll exactly. I think whomever wrote that article/blurb should go back to journalism school, though.

George is undoubtedly cooperating in any way with the defense -- we already figured that out. But as for being an employee of Jose, no I don't think that's what was meant.

I do think media outlets ought to put a leash on their copywriters -- so many do so much damage with their sloppy writing.

Thanks. I tend to agree with you.

Numbers

09-20-2009, 08:34 PM

Imperfect4

09-20-2009, 09:04 PM

Great read! Thanks again.

IMO, the people that were in the area of Caylee's remains were not searching in the correct area. If for some reason one of them was in the exact area unless they saw the skull I do not think they would have recognized a bone that had been exposed to the elements.

I think when the prosecution starts showing pictures of the different locations of Caylee's bones, the condition of the bones, the size of the bones and how they blended into the undergrowth, the jury will understand how a searcher could have easily overlooked them.

jmo

Warning: If you're sensitive, queasy, or easily upset, I wouldn't read the following.

One thing that sticks out for me from the autopsy report is that Caylee's body was not at a latter stage of decomp when it was placed at the dump site, because according to how the bones were found and arranged, the animals took parts of her away in sections, which means sections of her skeleton were still being held in tact by tissue, muscle and whatever else keeps our bodies together.

Based on her size, the time of year/heat, the fact that decomp was evident in the trunk where she was very soon after she was killed, I think she was completely decomposed at the dump site within days, maybe a week after being placed there. Which of course means she had to be at the dump site in mid-June.

Can't wait to see how the defense disputes the mapping of the location of her bones at the dump site. Another conspiracy theory on the part of LE, the crime scene investigators, the FBI, the coroner's office, etc. etc. etc.? :rolleyes:

Neffy

09-20-2009, 09:24 PM

Warning: If you're sensitive, queasy, or easily upset, I wouldn't read the following.

One thing that sticks out for me from the autopsy report is that Caylee's body was not at a latter stage of decomp when it was placed at the dump site, because according to how the bones were found and arranged, the animals took parts of her away in sections, which means sections of her skeleton were still being held in tact by tissue, muscle and whatever else keeps our bodies together.

Based on her size, the time of year/heat, the fact that decomp was evident in the trunk where she was very soon after she was killed, I think she was completely decomposed at the dump site within days, maybe a week after being placed there. Which of course means she had to be at the dump site in mid-June.

Can't wait to see how the defense disputes the mapping of the location of her bones at the dump site. Another conspiracy theory on the part of LE, the crime scene investigators, the FBI, the coroner's office, etc. etc. etc.? :rolleyes:

Thanks I4 and I do agree however without a "zanny" this is all futile. I still can't believe how far this has gone already,.

This is not some unknown fugitive kidnapper. This person is a figment of Casey's imagination with a name/ face but not physical being anywhere on this planet.

This really is an outrage.

These big name attorney's should really be ashamed to propagate this.

Imperfect4

09-20-2009, 09:31 PM

Thanks I4 and I do agree however without a "zanny" this is all futile. I still can't believe how far this has gone already,.

This is not some unknown fugitive kidnapper. This person is a figment of Casey's imagination with a name/ face but not physical being anywhere on this planet.

This really is an outrage.

These big name attorney's should really be ashamed to propagate this.

I agree, Nef. I can't imagine what the defense team is even thinking at this point. They got nothing.

Numbers

09-20-2009, 09:35 PM

I agree, Nef. I can't imagine what the defense team is even thinking at this point. They got nothing.

Au contraire. They have Joy Wray. :lol:

That's less than nothing.

Neffy

09-20-2009, 09:38 PM

Au contraire. They have Joy Wray. :lol:

That's less than nothing.

The lunatic fringe OMG!

Numbers

09-20-2009, 09:41 PM

The lunatic fringe OMG!

Oh, I think Joy is more like dead middle of the lunatics.

frances1

09-20-2009, 09:45 PM

Oh, I think Joy is more like dead middle of the lunatics.

Tinfoil hat?

legalmania

09-20-2009, 09:51 PM

Warning: If you're sensitive, queasy, or easily upset, I wouldn't read the following.

One thing that sticks out for me from the autopsy report is that Caylee's body was not at a latter stage of decomp when it was placed at the dump site, because according to how the bones were found and arranged, the animals took parts of her away in sections, which means sections of her skeleton were still being held in tact by tissue, muscle and whatever else keeps our bodies together.

Based on her size, the time of year/heat, the fact that decomp was evident in the trunk where she was very soon after she was killed, I think she was completely decomposed at the dump site within days, maybe a week after being placed there. Which of course means she had to be at the dump site in mid-June.

Can't wait to see how the defense disputes the mapping of the location of her bones at the dump site. Another conspiracy theory on the part of LE, the crime scene investigators, the FBI, the coroner's office, etc. etc. etc.? :rolleyes:

Decomposed at the dump site within days? This is really gross so if you have a weak stomach pass this up

It takes weeks to years for a body to fully decompose.

http://www.deathonline.net/decomposition/decomposition/index.htm

Numbers

09-20-2009, 09:52 PM

Tinfoil hat?

Haute couture of tinfoil, for sure.

Numbers

09-20-2009, 09:53 PM

Decomposed at the dump site within days? This is really gross so if you have a weak stomach pass this up

It takes weeks to years for a body to fully decompose.

http://www.deathonline.net/decomposition/decomposition/index.htm

Unless it's a very small body with high temperatures and excessive moisture, not to mention predators.

legalmania

09-20-2009, 09:57 PM

Unless it's a very small body with high temperatures and excessive moisture, not to mention predators.

It takes more than days unless it was burned in a very hot fire. Caylees hair was still intact. It took more than days.

Imperfect4

09-20-2009, 10:06 PM

It takes more than days unless it was burned in a very hot fire. Caylees hair was still intact. It took more than days.

I'd suggest you avail yourself of the links thread and the autopsy report.

I'd also suggest you not opine like an expert on subjects you aren't too familiar with.

legalmania

09-20-2009, 10:12 PM

I'd suggest you avail yourself of the links thread and the autopsy report.

I'd also suggest you not opine like an expert on subjects you aren't too familiar with.

I'd suggest you do the same.

cherish

09-20-2009, 10:32 PM

Casey is NOT charged with dumping that little girls remains in the woods. She is charged with murder.

Either the murderer herself or the murderers accomplice placed Caylee's body in the woods.

So, the defense saying that Casey couldn't have murdered Caylee because she was in jail in October is crazy because we know that Caylee was already dead and in Casey's trunk in July.

Numbers

09-20-2009, 10:37 PM

legalmania

09-20-2009, 10:41 PM

cherish

09-20-2009, 10:45 PM

Are you saying you think she had help?

No, I don't think she had help.

legalmania

09-20-2009, 10:50 PM

No, I don't think she had help.

Just wondering because you said the murderer herself or the murders accomplish placed Caylees body in the woods.

happygert

09-20-2009, 10:51 PM

(((hugs))) You're reaction was totally normal.

Abnormal is to eat crab cakes, get a tattoo, dance on a pole, design/sell bears, etc. Just once I'd like to see that family do the normal thing.

Nothing these people have done has been the norm.. from the day of Caylee being so called "MISSING" till this time.. They never searched for her from day one.. They never gave her a proper memorial service , IMO that was all about casey.. Heck IMO they didn't even pay for the service they waited until someone donated everything.. they were even asking for donations to have a service for her.They left her tiny little bones in a card board box on a shelf in the morgue for months.. Till this day they still haven't done anything with her ashes other then make jewelry out of them..I don't even think her ashes are at the A's house .. remember they were afraid someone would dig up her ashes if they buried her and they said her ashes are somewhere for safe keeping. Yep safe keeping my AZZ.. IMO these people didn't give a crap about Caylee in life and they sure dont give a rat azz about her in death either. Its all about how much money they can make off her death.. Where they can get the best hotel accommodations, the best meals, first class airplane tickets, and the most money ..

These people never act like a grieving grandparents heck they never even acted like grandparents.... mo

Ive been on both side of the fence death of children and a missing child.
I can tell you what grief is and I can tell you the horror of a missing child and the way I acted.. ( thank god mine was found alive and she's coping with what happened to her.. different circumstances then most mine was 18 and no HELP from LE of any kind).. Not saying the way I was is the right way but I sure know the way the A's are is the wrong way totally.. imo

Imperfect4

09-20-2009, 10:53 PM

Bullseye. 50 points!

I assume the defense's position that Caylee's body was placed at the dump site while Casey was in jail is a backwards kind of way of introducing the possibility to a jury that the placer of the body was also the killer of the child.

Reasonable doubt and all that jazz.

Numbers

09-20-2009, 10:55 PM

I assume the defense's position that Caylee's body was placed at the dump site while Casey was in jail is a backwards kind of way of introducing the possibility to a jury that the placer of the body was also the killer of the child.

Reasonable doubt and all that jazz.

Yeah. I'm buying that.

:lol: :lol:

Not.

AlohaRainbow

09-20-2009, 10:57 PM

Decomposed at the dump site within days? This is really gross so if you have a weak stomach pass this up

It takes weeks to years for a body to fully decompose.

http://www.deathonline.net/decomposition/decomposition/index.htm

under some conditions it can occur in 9 days:
http://www.deathonline.net/decomposition/decomposition/time.htm
In summer, a human body in an exposed location can be reduced to bones alone in just nine days.

Imperfect4

09-20-2009, 10:57 PM

Yeah. I'm buying that.

:lol: :lol:

Not.

Less than nothing, have they. :laugh:

Imperfect4

09-20-2009, 10:58 PM

cherish

09-20-2009, 10:59 PM

Just wondering because you said the murderer herself or the murders accomplish placed Caylees body in the woods.

Yes, I know what I said. I think Caylee's body was placed in the woods sometime between day 1 and day 31, by Casey.

happygert

09-20-2009, 11:06 PM

Unless it's a very small body with high temperatures and excessive moisture, not to mention predators.

exactly! they said 2 weeks for Caylee..and for sure she was decomposed completely by the time she was reported missing...

legalmania

09-20-2009, 11:10 PM

under some conditions it can occur in 9 days:
http://www.deathonline.net/decomposition/decomposition/time.htm
In summer, a human body in an exposed location can be reduced to bones alone in just nine days.

Remember Caylee was wrapped in garbage bags and a laundry bag, plus she was covered by trees and leaves. One of the experts Dr. Baden said that these elements would cause an almost mummified environment for Caylee.

AlohaRainbow

09-20-2009, 11:14 PM

Adult or child, aloha? I'm assuming size/weight makes quite a difference.

i was just posting what i found at the deathonline website :-)
i know some of the variables are location (buried, exposed, in water), temeperature, amount of body fat/water content (children's bodies generally contain a higher % of water than adults). i would think total amount of soft tissue would make a difference (a lot less tissue volume-wise in a small child).

imo, caylee could easily have been almost completely reduced to skelton by the end of june or shortly thereafter. (basing that on summer temperture, probably exposed to some amount of water (if animals started to get at the bag, causing it to leak), and the report that roots/plants were growing through the skeleton/skull for 4-6 months.

Numbers

09-20-2009, 11:14 PM

Remember Caylee was wrapped in garbage bags and a laundry bag, plus she was covered by trees and leaves. One of the experts Dr. Baden said that these elements would cause an almost mummified environment for Caylee.

Dr. Baden also testified under oath that Lana Clarkson could shoot herself, severing her spinal cord, and still dance around for several minutes causing blood spatter on Phil Spector's coat. I believe he described this as his "A-ha moment."

:rolleyes:

legalmania

09-20-2009, 11:15 PM

Adult or child, aloha? I'm assuming size/weight makes quite a difference.

The pigs they used in the demonstration were newborns. Even smaller than Caylee and they were not covered by anything and it took 50 to 365 days.

gaelicpeas

09-20-2009, 11:16 PM

NOT FOR THE SQUEAMISH..... Since Caylee's remains weren't found for approximately 6 months after June 15, most of these discussions are moot. I have never witnessed a dead human body decomposing, but I have witnessed numerous small animals (mice, birds, rabbits) decomposing due to the fact that I have cats. Two weeks and basically nothing is left except the fur/feathers, etc. Same as with Caylee's hair. And this was in Jersey. I can only imagine that decomposition would be much quicker in a Florida summer having lived there for 8 years. JMO

gaelicpeas

09-20-2009, 11:19 PM

Remember Caylee was wrapped in garbage bags and a laundry bag, plus she was covered by trees and leaves. One of the experts Dr. Baden said that these elements would cause an almost mummified environment for Caylee.AGAIN, NOT FOR THE SQUEAMISH..... That might make some sense if the bags were intact. Unfortunately, the bags were not intact - animals had made inroads into those bags and scattered poor Caylee's remains over a 100 sq ft area.

AlohaRainbow

09-20-2009, 11:25 PM

Remember Caylee was wrapped in garbage bags and a laundry bag, plus she was covered by trees and leaves. One of the experts Dr. Baden said that these elements would cause an almost mummified environment for Caylee.

we don't know alot of the variables... for instance, we don't know how tightly casey (imo it was casey) closed the plastic bags. imo, smell of decomp unless the bag was almost hermetically sealed would within a short time have drawn predators that could have clawed/gnawed at the bag. imo, alot of the leaves she was covered with fell after she was reduced to skeleton and scattered ( hard to type this :( ). the pattern of the scattered remains that another poster mentioned seems to be important (good point).

when dr baden said that being enclosed in plastic bags and covered with leaves would lend to mummified environment, he seems to have assumed that there was no moisture and that she was covered completely with leaves early on. did he happen to mention the numerous reports of the area being in water starting in june/july (which seems to be supported by the rainfall data for orlando area for 2008)?

legalmania

09-20-2009, 11:27 PM

Dr. Baden also testified under oath that Lana Clarkson could shoot herself, severing her spinal cord, and still dance around for several minutes causing blood spatter on Phil Spector's coat. I believe he described this as his "A-ha moment."

:rolleyes:

Until you can say you've done as many autopsys as he has, I will have to take his expertise over yours.

Imperfect4

09-20-2009, 11:29 PM

The pigs they used in the demonstration were newborns. Even smaller than Caylee and they were not covered by anything and it took 50 to 365 days.

In the case of the death of Caylee Anthony, I'll stick to the autopsy reports for Caylee Anthony. Can't imagine why I'd watch that pig decompose again when I have autopsy information on Caylee Anthony.

AlohaRainbow

09-20-2009, 11:29 PM

Dr. Baden also testified under oath that Lana Clarkson could shoot herself, severing her spinal cord, and still dance around for several minutes causing blood spatter on Phil Spector's coat. I believe he described this as his "A-ha moment."

:rolleyes:
what numbers said :)
and what numbers did ---> rolleyes

legalmania

09-20-2009, 11:30 PM

AGAIN, NOT FOR THE SQUEAMISH..... That might make some sense if the bags were intact. Unfortunately, the bags were not intact - animals had made inroads into those bags and scattered poor Caylee's remains over a 100 sq ft area.

Do you know exactly how long those bags were intact?

Imperfect4

09-20-2009, 11:33 PM

Remember Caylee was wrapped in garbage bags and a laundry bag, plus she was covered by trees and leaves. One of the experts Dr. Baden said that these elements would cause an almost mummified environment for Caylee.

Let's see ... the autopsy report on Caylee Anthony ... or an opinion on mummified environments from "expert" Dr. Baden, who was nowhere near the remains of Caylee Anthony, ever?

Decisions, decisions.

legalmania

09-20-2009, 11:33 PM

In the case of the death of Caylee Anthony, I'll stick to the autopsy reports for Caylee Anthony. Can't imagine why I'd watch that pig decompose again when I have autopsy information on Caylee Anthony.

Well the pigs were documented, Caylee was not. People can only assume.

AlohaRainbow

09-20-2009, 11:33 PM

Until you can say you've done as many autopsys as he has, I will have to take his expertise over yours.
i found his "testimony" that he didn't understand the meaning of "conflict of interest" to be less than compelling. (waaay less than compelling).

plus, imo, if that had been a respectable medical hypothesis, it would have "occurred" to him much sooner.

happygert

09-20-2009, 11:37 PM

Dr. Baden also testified under oath that Lana Clarkson could shoot herself, severing her spinal cord, and still dance around for several minutes causing blood spatter on Phil Spector's coat. I believe he described this as his "A-ha moment."

:rolleyes:

Exactly!.. I guess he was thinking of a chicken instead of a person...I guess he also believes dead squirrels can climb..

Imperfect4

09-20-2009, 11:37 PM

Well the pigs were documented, Caylee was not. People can only assume.

You do realize there's an autopsy report, prepared by several experts in their fields, who examined the remains of Caylee Anthony?

That's how remains are typically documented. By experts who examine those remains. To my knowledge, no murder victim has been videotaped as he or she decomposed.

happygert

09-20-2009, 11:40 PM

i found his "testimony" that he didn't understand the meaning of "conflict of interest" to be less than compelling. (waaay less than compelling).

plus, imo, if that had been a respectable medical hypothesis, it would have "occurred" to him much sooner.

But here lays the problem.. Money TALKS louder ..these so called experts throw all logic and the truth out the window when the dead presidents show up..... they will say what ever the defense wants them too..

legalmania

09-20-2009, 11:41 PM

Let's see ... the autopsy report on Caylee Anthony ... or an opinion on mummified environments from "expert" Dr. Baden, who was nowhere near the remains of Caylee Anthony, ever?

Decisions, decisions.

Nobody was near the remains that we know of, so his opinion is as good as anybody else's.

Imperfect4

09-20-2009, 11:46 PM

Nobody was near the remains that we know of, so his opinion is as good as anybody else's.

How do you suppose the autopsy report was compiled, if no one was near Caylee's remains?

legalmania

09-20-2009, 11:52 PM

You do realize there's an autopsy report, prepared by several experts in their fields, who examined the remains of Caylee Anthony?

That's how remains are typically documented. By experts who examine those remains. To my knowledge, no murder victim has been videotaped as he or she decomposed.

Yes I do, a cause of death can't even be determined. Just as the exact dod cannot be accurate. Actually there has been videotape of individuals decomposing of course these were by students studying cadavers.

legalmania

09-20-2009, 11:59 PM

But here lays the problem.. Money TALKS louder ..these so called experts throw all logic and the truth out the window when the dead presidents show up..... they will say what ever the defense wants them too..

It's not always like that the defense finds an expert who's testimony will help their case. The experts do give their honest opinion but it doesn't coincide with the prosecutions expert and vice versa. The law is a big gray area.

Imperfect4

09-21-2009, 12:05 AM

Yes I do, a cause of death can't even be determined. Just as the exact dod cannot be accurate. Actually there has been videotape of individuals decomposing of course these were by students studying cadavers.

Note I said no murder victim has been filmed, to my knowledge, as he or she decomposed.

The cause of death can't be determined due to the fact it appears the Anthony family insured their baby would rot away at the dump site a sufficient length of time to eliminate that evidence.

The exact date of death can't be determined because the Anthony family has lied about it.

The coroner's office and the various experts who examined Caylee's remains were at a serious disadvantage, thanks to the Anthony family. It's not their fault there's no COD or DOD, it's the fault of the family of the dead baby.

happygert

09-21-2009, 12:10 AM

It's not always like that the defense finds an expert who's testimony will help their case. The experts do give their honest opinion but it doesn't coincide with the prosecutions expert and vice versa. The law is a big gray area.

Oh yes I can see how honest there opinions are.. HL too much blood to be a murder..that was in the M.Peterson's case. Hiding evidence in the PS case. Baden someone with a severed spine can dance around and throw blood.. Oh yes I see there honesty!... They are just as honest as casey, george, lee, brad conway, jose baez, todd m. d casey. etc... oh yes I see how honest all these people are. :rolleyes:. Im sure others can see it too.

happygert

09-21-2009, 12:16 AM

Note I said no murder victim has been filmed, to my knowledge, as he or she decomposed.

The cause of death can't be determined due to the fact it appears the Anthony family insured their baby would rot away at the dump site a sufficient length of time to eliminate that evidence.

The exact date of death can't be determined because the Anthony family has lied about it.

The coroner's office and the various experts who examined Caylee's remains were at a serious disadvantage, thanks to the Anthony family. It's not their fault there's no COD or DOD, it's the fault of the family of the dead baby.

ITA!.. IMO george, being a cop knew how long it would take Caylee to decompose as did cindy with her being a nurse.. They all knew Caylee was dead and they knew exactly where casey threw Caylee away like trash..They also knew by the time they reported Caylee "SO CALLED MISSING" she was already reduced to tiny bones.. They sent dc into those woods to get her body so they could hide her and no one would ever find her.. Thank god dc didnt find her.. jmho..

legalmania

09-21-2009, 12:26 AM

I really don't have time for these ridiculous scenarios and conclusions so I'm just going to dedicate a song for the reason why I'm here, sweet Caylee. Your free baby girl so go play in the trees or ride on a shooting star there are no limits. Relax until justice is yours.

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via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/)

Imperfect4

09-21-2009, 12:27 AM

ITA!.. IMO george, being a cop knew how long it would take Caylee to decompose as did cindy with her being a nurse.. They all knew Caylee was dead and they knew exactly where casey threw Caylee away like trash..They also knew by the time they reported Caylee "SO CALLED MISSING" she was already reduced to tiny bones.. They sent dc into those woods to get her body so they could hid her and no one would ever find her.. Thank god dc didnt find her.. jmho..

Whether or not G&C and Lee knew early on what happened, they were in the best position to find out from Casey. Either they didn't bother to find out, or they did find out and kept the information secret. Whichever way it went down, imo, they were complicit in allowing Caylee's body to lay there for 6 months. It seems clear they did indeed know approximately where her remains were at least a month, and perhaps longer than that, before she was found on December 11th. Despicable, appalling behavior.

Imperfect4

09-21-2009, 12:28 AM

Imperfect4

09-21-2009, 12:33 AM

Anyone here???

I have been reading and get the distinct impression you all think KC is guilty...I also understand you do not care for Cindy, George or Lee Anthony...is that correct???
I also under the impression that you all think that the Anthony's lie...oh sorry...tell mistruths...Some other observation lead me to conclude that the defense team is not held in esteem...

I just can't believe what I am reading here...I just can't believe you all think these things about this wonderful upstanding law abiding family...:biggrin:

You're a riot, Rapunzel. :laugh:

How about a haircut? :sneaky:

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 12:43 AM

Do you know exactly how long those bags were intact?No, I do not. But from my observation of decomposing small animals in my yard, I would bet my mortgage that it occurred within the first week, maybe 2 weeks. No more than that. JMO

happygert

09-21-2009, 12:43 AM

Whether or not G&C and Lee knew early on what happened, they were in the best position to find out from Casey. Either they didn't bother to find out, or they did find out and kept the information secret. Whichever way it went down, imo, they were complicit in allowing Caylee's body to lay there for 6 months. It seems clear they did indeed know approximately where her remains were at least a month, and perhaps longer than that, before she was found on December 11th. Despicable, appalling behavior.

IMO they knew and let her lay there like trash to save casey. imo they all should be charged..what leads me to believe they knew is
A) they never looked for Caylee ever.
B) when tes was getting close cindy threw a fit and started calling him names..
C)we feel Caylee's close..
D) destroying evidence
E) giving wrong hairbrush to FBI
F)Lying to LE and FBI
H) refusing to cooperate
I) casey "WE FORGIVE YOU FOR ANYTHING YOU'VE SAID OR DONE"
casey's answer I havent said ANYTHING!!.
J) refusing to take the LIE DETECTOR TEST.
K) HINDERING an on going INVESTIGATION FOR A MISSING 2 year old..
L) sending dc into those woods to look for Caylee.. and using the pavers to tell him where to look..and him poking in trash bags..

These people are down right dispicablle ITA!

legalmania

09-21-2009, 12:47 AM

hey, I have over 1000 posts...since June??? OMG...I have a big mouth...I think I have FAB syndrome...:biggrin:

What did I win???
1000 posts has to be good for something???
Do I get first dibs on trying to find a vein on KC???

It use to be when the site was called C.Tv you would get seniority, but today well sorry all you can have is :beer: enjoy.

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 12:50 AM

legalmania

09-21-2009, 12:50 AM

BBM. Then by all means, stop posting them.

I don't have a problem with my post, I will continue to do so until I make the decision not to.

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 12:55 AM

ahem... so.... um... what about Lyon and her motion about letting G&C get unmoniotered jailhouse visits? Is she nuts?

legalmania

09-21-2009, 01:03 AM

No, I do not. But from my observation of decomposing small animals in my yard, I would bet my mortgage that it occurred within the first week, maybe 2 weeks. No more than that. JMO

When the worlds top leading experts can't even come to that exact scientific proof, how the heck am I suppose to? That's like someone betting and winning the lottery. Your not being accurate, "I bet it occurred within the first week, maybe 2 weeks" from when?

happygert

09-21-2009, 01:04 AM

ahem... so.... um... what about Lyon and her motion about letting G&C get unmoniotered jailhouse visits? Is she nuts?

TOTALLY!... the next motion is going to be its because george and cindy's on the defense team and it's client parent privilege.. ahem eerr sorry client attorney privilege i mean....:rolleyes:

legalmania

09-21-2009, 01:08 AM

OK...I'll take it...:wink:

Gezzz...you would think I would be at least given a rose???
Oh well...easy come...easy go...:wink:

To the beautiful Rapunzel with the golden hair, may she have 1,000's of post to come.:rose:

legalmania

09-21-2009, 01:20 AM

I definitely have to go lighting just hit either my house or my neighbors, I don't smell smoke, the lights flickered, I love underground wiring. Here is a song for the weather outside. It's Monday on the east coast. :seeya:

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Now playing: The Allman Brothers Band - Stormy Monday (http://www.foxytunes.com/artist/the_allman_brothers_band/track/stormy_monday)
via FoxyTunes (http://www.foxytunes.com/signatunes/):seeya:

happygert

09-21-2009, 01:24 AM

Has everyone left?

well I sure hope tomorrow brings some new info either doc dumps , the trial date for chech case or maybe some new motions... seeya all later

happygert

09-21-2009, 01:39 AM

What is the hold up on the check fraud:huh:
This is a little ridiculous. I wonder what's up with the good Judge..

Yes I agree its been 4 weeks ... dont know but wish he'd hurry up ans set the dang date..

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 01:40 AM

When the worlds top leading experts can't even come to that exact scientific proof, how the heck am I suppose to? That's like someone betting and winning the lottery. Your not being accurate, "I bet it occurred within the first week, maybe 2 weeks" from when?
Within a couple of weeks from mid June. We are not talking days here anyway. The question is........ were her remains there in June, or were they there in November. That is the question. The obvious answer, IMO, is June.

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 01:43 AM

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 01:44 AM

Has everyone left?

well I sure hope tomorrow brings some new info either doc dumps , the trial date for chech case or maybe some new motions... seeya all later
No, I am still here. Trying to weather the storm... :biggrin:

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 01:45 AM

Does anyone else here get goosebumps when they read these little salutations to Caylee? Talking to her as though she's still alive and dedicating music to her. Really... it makes me shiver. LKL: Weird.Well... between the inanities of the posts and salutations... um............. yeah.

Weird. JMO

happygert

09-21-2009, 01:49 AM

No, I am still here. Trying to weather the storm... :biggrin:

lol.....ok just duck...

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 01:50 AM

"Ol Lee knows a whole lot of everything, I'm thinking. He also has read what everyone thinks of Mom and Dad and the money they are making off of Caylee. I don't think he wants to be tagged in any way with them. I think he knows this is what they are doing, too.
He has no say so anymore it looks like. George and Cindy walked out of the lime light right after they began to get calls for hour shows (Like 48 hours) and movies. That's why they had been out there in the public all the time. It didn't matter how ridiculous they behaved, they knew they would attract a lot of attention from other sources.

And...they did.
I gotta agree with you on this. Whether the murder of their grandchild was for money or not... they sure made some big bucks off of this. Sorta makes you wonder. JMO

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 01:50 AM

lol.....ok just duck...
lol... heck no, I am not going to duck that. It needed calling out. JMO

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 01:52 AM

What next for Cindy...An offer from Playboy?:tonguewag:
"Air Brush" think she would do it?:biggrinjester:LMAO... oh my, don't even go there! If she did that, I would literally roll over in my grave, and I'm not even there yet! JMO

happygert

09-21-2009, 01:54 AM

lol... heck no, I am not going to duck that. It needed calling out. JMO

LOL yes ita!

happygert

09-21-2009, 01:55 AM

LMAO... oh my, don't even go there! If she did that, I would literally roll over in my grave, and I'm not even there yet! JMO

Well she thinks she a 10 already she wouldnt think she'd need any air brushing.. after all its cindy .. she thinks she the perfect 10...:lol:

O/T made cherry cobbler and just bit into a pit I hate that..

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 02:01 AM

Well she thinks she a 10 already she wouldnt think she'd need any air brushing.. after all its cindy .. she thinks she the perfect 10...:lol:

O/T made cherry cobbler and just bit into a pit I hate that..lol... I am still chuckling over the playboy offer...

On that note, I must say it is tiring to listen to the hit and run defense tactics, ending with a song in tribute to Caylee. Surely they can do better than that. JMO

(ETA: sorry about your pit bite.)

gaelicpeas

09-21-2009, 02:16 AM

Of course she didn't. She freaked out when she found Casey and TonE (was it TonE or Jesse) sitting on the bed. Cindy probably went wild thinking that Casey would come up pregnant again.:w00t:That would be Jesse. And I think at that time that little Caylee wasn't born yet. :crying:

happygert

09-21-2009, 05:09 AM

We all know where that will go if they have Joy Wray testify on behalf of the defense team.
State will chew her up and spit her out just by asking her a little about her background. The jury will raise a few eyebrows when she has to acknowledge she has been in a mental facility 4-5 times. Ya think?

O/T.. Posting one after another is not as a result of no one being on board tonight. I have been reading numerous posts I missed all day and I am catching up with questions, comments and my own opinions.

hi , yes it get lonely...posting to your self... hope we get some new stuff this week