9/15 thru 10/11

[ClimbingRose]

I hope I did this correctly. The information coming out lately is some what complex and perhaps could be followed better if less pages were involved.

ClimbingRose

[JanJan]

Thanks, Rose. I just don't want people giving up on finding KC.

[ClimbingRose]

I don't either. Posters are really thinking hard and intellectually which could perhaps help this case and Kristi.

MOO
ClimbingRose

[C.Hound]

Thanks for the new thread CR. I didn't see it at first and clicked on the previous one. Is there any way to edit the new thread's name to include today's date?

[ClimbingRose]

Thanks for the new thread CR. I didn't see it at first and clicked on the previous one. Is there any way to edit the new thread's name to include today's date?

I don't. Still a newbie to all of this. If anyone can please, please do.

[seemsodd]

sorry I brought this thread back up to the top...

[kelloggirl]

Bringing my post over from the old thread...

How completely disheartening and disappointing that there has not been one single news report on Kristi for almost two weeks! What's going on? Where is she? Why isn't family raising a ruckus and trying to get more coverage? Why isn't the GBI and LE releasing some information or at least an update saying she hasn't been found and they're still looking for tips?

This silence is unnerving. How can a missing person be found if no one is looking for them?

[dulcinea]

Thanks for the new thread CR. I didn't see it at first and clicked on the previous one. Is there any way to edit the new thread's name to include today's date?

I think CW herself has to do it. You can click the little triangle next to the number of the post you want to report to ask her.

[Speak Out]

Bringing my post over from the old thread...

How completely disheartening and disappointing that there has not been one single news report on Kristi for almost two weeks! What's going on? Where is she? Why isn't family raising a ruckus and trying to get more coverage? Why isn't the GBI and LE releasing some information or at least an update saying she hasn't been found and they're still looking for tips?

This silence is unnerving. How can a missing person be found if no one is looking for them?

In this case, silence doesn't mean that no one is looking for them. This case is being worked every single day.

[Ice Cycle]

In this case, silence doesn't mean that no one is looking for them. This case is being worked every single day.

Well that is good to know but it would be nice if they updated the public on occasion. Just looking in to see if any news in finding her.

[ClimbingRose]

sorry I brought this thread back up to the top...

THANK YOU. when you can find moment would you please send me a pm on how do to this correctly?

[mitzi]

This was posted by JanJan on the previous thread, but I wanted to address it. sorry it took me so long.

"Mitzi/Seemsodd - Is there such a flyer being distributed advertising self-defense classes? Is this a fact?

I, for one, would certainly NOT take that class! Talk about advertising to the world that you are single, alone, etc.

Above thoughts and comments are just my opinion."


The self defense flyer thing, which Seemsodd confirmed was not related to what she had posted, came from something on a Topix thread.

Here is that part of a post from Topix -

"The latest is the flyer advertising a self defense class. It is called, Women's Self Defense Class.

Read the first line: Do you want to learn how to stop an abduction and self-defense techinques that work in the real world while giving to Kristi's search?"


Just wanted to let you know why I mentioned it, and where it came from.

Mitzi

[kelloggirl]

In this case, silence doesn't mean that no one is looking for them. This case is being worked every single day.

I have no doubt of that. I was really speaking more towards the lack of media coverage, especially compared with that of Annie Le's case, which albeit is much more sensational and has lots of breaks, but you would think local media would check in on police every once and in awhile even if it is "No news, she's still missing" and let people know that they should still be looking for the vehicles mentioned early on, or anything.

[ClimbingRose]

In this case, silence doesn't mean that no one is looking for them. This case is being worked every single day.

I know one member is corresponding on another, mainly just to say Thank You and such

I agree that sometimes silence tells me that there's a particular reason why nothing is being shared. But, I've read some comments about the local LE who aren't thought highly of and then I read the GBI director talk about the budget cuts and where they're going to have to focus the most of their money on. Then the director calls for citizens to step up and help but doesn't follow thru with that. What does he want us to do? Didn't they refuse a research/recovery team? (Can't remember)
He still won't release anything such as a crumb.. So, please give us some direction to go in.

IMO
ClimbingRose

[mitzi]

So sad that there has been no news on Kristi. This case is just fading away. For awhile, I hoped the lack of news was because LE had something up their sleeve. Maybe working an angle they just couldn't release. But now, I really think they have nothing, at least as far as where to search for her.

Last week, I called the UCSO to inquire about volunteering on any searches they might have had planned. When Meredith Emerson went missing, they did searches, but you had to be some sort of LE, or a certified SAR person, or had some experience. Since then, I have gotten certified, and participated in a missing person search. Anyway, I spoke with a very nice lady there, and told her I realize they may want people with a certificate first, and that I had one. She said great. I'll start a new list for such folks, in case they want to call you first, as I already have a list of volunteers.

I asked if she had any idea of what the plans were, and she said it is all up to the GBI right now, but hadn't heard of any plans. We discussed the area being so large - needle in a haystack - where would ya start, etc.... Basically, what I got from it was, they have no clue. With so much mountainous land and woods, there is nothing to give people a guideline of where to begin. It's very frustrating, but I don't fault LE if they have actually exhausted all leads, and nothing pointed to a particular area.

I very much appreciate the amount of time this woman took to speak with me. I wasn't brushed off, given the yada yada yada treatment at all. We talked for about 15 minutes.

I didn't post at the time, on the far out chance someone in LE monitors these boards, and might be able to figure out who I was from the info I provided. I wasn't calling there to snoop at all, and would never want it to appear that way. Didn't want them to take me off the list. KWIM? Just want to be able to volunteer.

Unless someone comes forward, I doubt there will ever be any direction for them to go in. Not after this much time. All we can do is hope and pray that something changes. And if they should call me, I will let you know.

Mitzi

[mitzi]

In this case, silence doesn't mean that no one is looking for them. This case is being worked every single day.

Are you a local, neighbor, LE?

[HALE 2d GNAW]

So sad that there has been no news on Kristi. This case is just fading away. For awhile, I hoped the lack of news was because LE had something up their sleeve. Maybe working an angle they just couldn't release. But now, I really think they have nothing, at least as far as where to search for her.

Last week, I called the UCSO to inquire about volunteering on any searches they might have had planned. When Meredith Emerson went missing, they did searches, but you had to be some sort of LE, or a certified SAR person, or had some experience. Since then, I have gotten certified, and participated in a missing person search. Anyway, I spoke with a very nice lady there, and told her I realize they may want people with a certificate first, and that I had one. She said great. I'll start a new list for such folks, in case they want to call you first, as I already have a list of volunteers.

I asked if she had any idea of what the plans were, and she said it is all up to the GBI right now, but hadn't heard of any plans. We discussed the area being so large - needle in a haystack - where would ya start, etc.... Basically, what I got from it was, they have no clue. With so much mountainous land and woods, there is nothing to give people a guideline of where to begin. It's very frustrating, but I don't fault LE if they have actually exhausted all leads, and nothing pointed to a particular area.

I very much appreciate the amount of time this woman took to speak with me. I wasn't brushed off, given the yada yada yada treatment at all. We talked for about 15 minutes.

I didn't post at the time, on the far out chance someone in LE monitors these boards, and might be able to figure out who I was from the info I provided. I wasn't calling there to snoop at all, and would never want it to appear that way. Didn't want them to take me off the list. KWIM? Just want to be able to volunteer.

Unless someone comes forward, I doubt there will ever be any direction for them to go in. Not after this much time. All we can do is hope and pray that something changes. And if they should call me, I will let you know.

Mitzi


Mitzi,

Thanks for the post and all your contributions. You posts always make me think outside the box ~ every time I read them :)

Not sure whether to laugh or cry that LE seems to be sitting on their hands. If it means KC is alive and safe, I'd laugh. Much as I'd embrace another runaway bride story, I can't gather a grin from the info released to the public so far.

Please keep us up to date if you can. Thanks again for all your good posts.

[mitzi]

Mitzi,

Thanks for the post and all your contributions. You posts always make me think outside the box ~ every time I read them :)

Not sure whether to laugh or cry that LE seems to be sitting on their hands. If it means KC is alive and safe, I'd laugh. Much as I'd embrace another runaway bride story, I can't gather a grin from the info released to the public so far.

Please keep us up to date if you can. Thanks again for all your good posts.

Thanks Hale! Such a nice thing to say :smile:

Prayers for Kristi and her family

[ClimbingRose]

Was lurking around for information and found this article. It appears that Kristi's brother shares our thoughts about the boyfriend.

http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-unsure-if-blairsville-116696.html

[JanJan]

Was lurking around for information and found this article. It appears that Kristi's brother shares our thoughts about the boyfriend.

http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-unsure-if-blairsville-116696.html

IMO, we are all probably still a bit suspicious of DD, but Richard appears to be saying that he won't talk about him because he was on the phone with KC when she was abducted and he's part of the investigation. I guess you could read it either way.

[C.Hound]

Hi everyone. I ran across some interesting information earlier today at truecrimereport.com. Apparently the person who thought he/she saw Kristi walking around 8:15pm with a man was mistaken. After LE spoke with this person and other locals, it was determined the person witnessed a husband and wife walking together, not Kristi and a mystery man. I would imagine LE knows who the couple is and has interviewed them. It would be interesting to know if they passed Kristi on the road and if they were able to estimate the time.

So now it seems the only witness to Kristi's walk (at least the only one mentioned publicly) is the person who was at the nearby church and reported seeing Kristi around 9pm. I wonder if this information has since been proven to be a case of mistaken identity as well.

Makes me wonder if the timeline of Kristi's walk may not be accurate if there weren't any witnesses and if Kristi's mom can't recall the approximate time she saw Kristi leave the house.

[leema24]

Hi everyone. I ran across some interesting information earlier today at truecrimereport.com. Apparently the person who thought he/she saw Kristi walking around 8:15pm with a man was mistaken. After LE spoke with this person and other locals, it was determined the person witnessed a husband and wife walking together, not Kristi and a mystery man. I would imagine LE knows who the couple is and has interviewed them. It would be interesting to know if they passed Kristi on the road and if they were able to estimate the time.

So now it seems the only witness to Kristi's walk (at least the only one mentioned publicly) is the person who was at the nearby church and reported seeing Kristi around 9pm. I wonder if this information has since been proven to be a case of mistaken identity as well.

Makes me wonder if the timeline of Kristi's walk may not be accurate if there weren't any witnesses and if Kristi's mom can't recall the approximate time she saw Kristi leave the house.

C.Hound, thanks for that information. I had been wondering why we hadn't heard more about that man since he would have been one of the last to have seen Kristi.

I check here almost every day hoping for some update as to what happened to Kristi. How can people just vanish? :confused:

[just42day97]

Was lurking around for information and found this article. It appears that Kristi's brother shares our thoughts about the boyfriend.

http://www.ajc.com/news/gbi-unsure-if-blairsville-116696.html

yea..I've seen that report before..and even posted here about it...
It's like the Richard wanted to say something..but held his mouth shut about what he really wanted to say

[just42day97]

In this case, silence doesn't mean that no one is looking for them. This case is being worked every single day.


May I ask how is this case being worked? Are there searches being done? Anyone being interviewed? TIA!

[just42day97]

I was over looking at DD's website again..I noticed some changes..
They have posted under the "news" tab that his group has signed with a new Group...I think maybe it means like a new record label or something...I think maybe he signed with them a while back but just now has it posted on the website..wonder if it's cause it's been getting so many hits since Kristi went missing??...also posted there is a link to the NBC today show interview he did....kinda weird..I'm just saying....
lol
Also find it strange that his Pastor of his church has written kinda like a refernce letter for DD and it's also posted....I'm just saying....lol
http://elianagodanswers.org/todaysnews/

[mitzi]

I was over looking at DD's website again..I noticed some changes..
They have posted under the "news" tab that his group has signed with a new Group...I think maybe it means like a new record label or something...I think maybe he signed with them a while back but just now has it posted on the website..wonder if it's cause it's been getting so many hits since Kristi went missing??...also posted there is a link to the NBC today show interview he did....kinda weird..I'm just saying....
lol
Also find it strange that his Pastor of his church has written kinda like a refernce letter for DD and it's also posted....I'm just saying....lol
http://elianagodanswers.org/todaysnews/

Weird....They were signed back in February, but it is posted on 9/2/09. And Pam Starr is no longer with the group. So it looks rather silly if you ask me. And the Pastor Reference Letter is from April 2007....Why post it now??

Guess he is going to use the attention for all its worth. Last time I looked, they only had one gig. Might want to try a new tactic.

[ClimbingRose]

yea..I've seen that report before..and even posted here about it...
It's like the Richard wanted to say something..but held his mouth shut about what he really wanted to say

That was the vibe I was picking up. The brother refused to discuss anything about DD and Krisiti engaged. What frustrates me so much is the silence from LE that's beginning to appear there isn't much man power being assigned to this case. Mitzi called yesterday or today offering to join a search for Kristi but correct me if I'm wrong Mitzi but your impression was that nothing was even being planned. Why would it hurt for LE to announce that it was Misti who was seen walking with a male? Seriously what in the world is going on down there?

[ClimbingRose]

What's even stranger is the website that's been set up for Kristi. The request for pictures but continue to show the more outdated ones, a specific message for Kristi and/or her abductor, or setting up search sites or providing some form of access where those who may know something could provide to an assigned person rather than for whatever reason doesn't bother to call the LE.

Have I said how strange this case is?

[just42day97]

What's even stranger is the website that's been set up for Kristi. The request for pictures but continue to show the more outdated ones, a specific message for Kristi and/or her abductor, or setting up search sites or providing some form of access where those who may know something could provide to an assigned person rather than for whatever reason doesn't bother to call the LE.

Have I said how strange this case is?

lol yes I think maybe a few of us here have said just how crazy this case is...
But really it's sad...so sad

[ClimbingRose]

lol yes I think maybe a few of us here have said just how crazy this case is...
But really it's sad...so sad


Where are some of the locals? Maybe they could shed some light on wht's going on locally. IIRC and not even where but wasn't LE taking sketch around to some of the locals to see if anyone recognized him? Evan some who claim to be local appear to have a sense of fear even posting on the boards. Can you make sense out of this for me?

ClimbingRose

[ClimbingRose]

Weird....They were signed back in February, but it is posted on 9/2/09. And Pam Starr is no longer with the group. So it looks rather silly if you ask me. And the Pastor Reference Letter is from April 2007....Why post it now??

Guess he is going to use the attention for all its worth. Last time I looked, they only had one gig. Might want to try a new tactic.

Mitzi, are you familiar with his church affiliation?

ClimbingRose

[C.Hound]

Mitzi, are you familiar with his church affiliation?

ClimbingRose

I believe he's a Southern Baptist. I don't remember which church he belongs to, but it was mentioned in a newspaper article right after the reports surfaced about Kristi...something about the church sending an email to the congregation about her being missing.

[easylivin]

Where are some of the locals? Maybe they could shed some light on wht's going on locally. IIRC and not even where but wasn't LE taking sketch around to some of the locals to see if anyone recognized him? Evan some who claim to be local appear to have a sense of fear even posting on the boards. Can you make sense out of this for me?

ClimbingRose

I live about 20 minutes from Blairsville. Still know nothing but I still have my gut feelings about this. I have no proof so I don't post.

But think about this:
Why did the family feel an alarm was necessary? Yes I have locks on my doors now but an alarm? I actually take my keys out of my car now and lock it in my driveway!! That is huge! I always throw them in the console even at the grocery store. Not any more... nope... not now.

Why is the family quiet? If it were my child, I would be searching the mountains myself organizing groups to search etc.

To me it is pointing back to my theory is that we have a dangerous criminal out here. Why else would the family be quieted by LE? Why else would they feel the need for an alarm system? It's the only thing that makes sense to me.

I think they are hoping to find this person before he/they strike again.

Just my opinion, don't have a link or any proof of my suspicions.

Prayers for Kristi and her wonderful family!

[ClimbingRose]

I live about 20 minutes from Blairsville. Still know nothing but I still have my gut feelings about this. I have no proof so I don't post.

But think about this:
Why did the family feel an alarm was necessary? Yes I have locks on my doors now but an alarm? I actually take my keys out of my car now and lock it in my driveway!! That is huge! I always throw them in the console even at the grocery store. Not any more... nope... not now.

Why is the family quiet? If it were my child, I would be searching the mountains myself organizing groups to search etc.

To me it is pointing back to my theory is that we have a dangerous criminal out here. Why else would the family be quieted by LE? Why else would they feel the need for an alarm system? It's the only thing that makes sense to me.

I think they are hoping to find this person before he/they strike again.

Just my opinion, don't have a link or any proof of my suspicions.

Prayers for Kristi and her wonderful family!



If that's the case it may explain some of the jumpiness(if that's a word) by the locals but how does LE think by keeping this quiet their town will be safe? There's still too many if,and or buts

[easylivin]

If that's the case it may explain some of the jumpiness(if that's a word) by the locals but how does LE think by keeping this quiet their town will be safe? There's still too many if,and or buts

Hopefully LE knows who is responsible and they are building their case against the perps. Hopefully it is down to details and an arrest is close.

I am prayerful they have someone/ones in their radar.

Again--just my gut- no facts--JMHO

[C.Hound]

What's even stranger is the website that's been set up for Kristi. The request for pictures but continue to show the more outdated ones, a specific message for Kristi and/or her abductor, or setting up search sites or providing some form of access where those who may know something could provide to an assigned person rather than for whatever reason doesn't bother to call the LE.

Have I said how strange this case is?

I just took another look at www.kristicornwell.com and was struck by something odd (at least to me). The family is having tee shirts printed to sell in order to keep Kristi's name and face in people's minds and raise money for the search fund. They also have a link to a retail site where people can buy stickers, pins, mugs, and magnets showing a tipline number and her photo.

I can understand selling the shirts, stickers, and buttons as they will be worn around town. I can't figure out why magnets and mugs would be sold.

Does anyone know if it's common practice in a missing person case for stuff like this to be sold? Like I said, it stood out as being strange to me but may very well be done on a regular basis in these situations.

Thanks.

[ClimbingRose]

Hopefully LE knows who is responsible and they are building their case against the perps. Hopefully it is down to details and an arrest is close.

I am prayerful they have someone/ones in their radar.

Again--just my gut- no facts--JMHO



I really hope so but it probably means Kristi isn't coming home..And that will break my heart and more tears shed. It does seem the family has a local church who has been very supportive and hopefully comfort them during a very painful and tragic event.

With that I must say good night and fall asleep asking what can I do to fight this darkness which surrounds us all.
ClimbingRosee

[easylivin]

I just took another look at www.kristicornwell.com and was struck by something odd (at least to me). The family is having tee shirts printed to sell in order to keep Kristi's name and face in people's minds and raise money for the search fund. They also have a link to a retail site where people can buy stickers, pins, mugs, and magnets showing a tipline number and her photo.

I can understand selling the shirts, stickers, and buttons as they will be worn around town. I can't figure out why magnets and mugs would be sold.

Does anyone know if it's common practice in a missing person case for stuff like this to be sold? Like I said, it stood out as being strange to me but may very well be done on a regular basis in these situations.

Thanks.

CafePress is a place where you can send in a photo and have it made into anything. You chose what you want to be offered after you upload your photo. A magnet and Button are basically the same thing so you can get the item in either format.

The mugs are probably the best profit margin for raising money for her fund.

Anyone can use CafePress. They make the items as they are ordered. I have a lot of artist friends who have their artwork available there in different formats.

Hope that helps explain CafePress.

[C.Hound]

But think about this: Why did the family feel an alarm was necessary?...To me it is pointing back to my theory is that we have a dangerous criminal out here. Why else would the family be quieted by LE? Why else would they feel the need for an alarm system? It's the only thing that makes sense to me.

snipped by me.

I hope for everyone's sake there isn't a dangerous criminal roaming and LE is keeping it hush-hush, but you make a good point about the request for an alarm system in a part of the country where people don't routinely lock their doors.

Maybe it's also possible that the Cornwells may suspect who the likely perp(s) is and are concerned they will be targeted next. Just throwing out additional possible scenarios.

[C.Hound]

CafePress is a place where you can send in a photo and have it made into anything. You chose what you want to be offered after you upload your photo. A magnet and Button are basically the same thing so you can get the item in either format.

The mugs are probably the best profit margin for raising money for her fund.

Anyone can use CafePress. They make the items as they are ordered. I have a lot of artist friends who have their artwork available there in different formats.

Hope that helps explain CafePress.

Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't familiar with CafePress or how it works. I see now how it makes sense to use that site as another tool for raising search-fund money. It's just not something I would think of doing if I were in the Cornwell family's situation, but they probably either already knew about CafePress or someone mentioned it to them.

[mitzi]

That was the vibe I was picking up. The brother refused to discuss anything about DD and Krisiti engaged. What frustrates me so much is the silence from LE that's beginning to appear there isn't much man power being assigned to this case. Mitzi called yesterday or today offering to join a search for Kristi but correct me if I'm wrong Mitzi but your impression was that nothing was even being planned. Why would it hurt for LE to announce that it was Misti who was seen walking with a male? Seriously what in the world is going on down there?


From what I gathered, they were taking names of volunteers, but nothing had been planned. Doesn't mean that LE isn't out there, but as far as a larger scale search, I took it as nothing planned.

I think the sighting of Kristi walking that evening near the church, turned out to be a neighbor and her husband.

Wish I knew......

[mitzi]

Where are some of the locals? Maybe they could shed some light on wht's going on locally. IIRC and not even where but wasn't LE taking sketch around to some of the locals to see if anyone recognized him? Evan some who claim to be local appear to have a sense of fear even posting on the boards. Can you make sense out of this for me?

ClimbingRose

IIRC, early on they were showing a photo at some of the roadblocks and when they were questioning people in the area. It was of a white haired man that I think came off of a surveillence camera somewhere. I believe he too had also been identified later. It may have been a pic from a camera at the Marathon since that would have been the closest store.

[easylivin]

snipped by me.

I hope for everyone's sake there isn't a dangerous criminal roaming and LE is keeping it hush-hush, but you make a good point about the request for an alarm system in a part of the country where people don't routinely lock their doors.

Maybe it's also possible that the Cornwells may suspect who the likely perp(s) is and are concerned they will be targeted next. Just throwing out additional possible scenarios.

IMO, the Cornwells know something, that's why they got the alarm system. They know what is really going on but LE won't let them talk nor will they tell us.

If there is a crazy out there and LE told us, how many people would be shooting first and asking questions later? This is a different part of the country. It is nothing to hear gunshots any time of day. People target practice and just shoot their guns. It is no big deal here. We all have them. It may be safer for the innocent for us NOT to know there is a crazy person loose just for that reason alone.

JMO

[mitzi]

Mitzi, are you familiar with his church affiliation?

ClimbingRose

He was ordained a Southern Baptist Minister years ago, so I would have to assume he still is. He attends Macland Baptist Church in Powder Springs.

[easylivin]

Thanks for the explanation. I wasn't familiar with CafePress or how it works. I see now how it makes sense to use that site as another tool for raising search-fund money. It's just not something I would think of doing if I were in the Cornwell family's situation, but they probably either already knew about CafePress or someone mentioned it to them.

You are welcome:)

The only reason I know about it is because I am an artist and have used them before:)

[C.Hound]

IMO, the Cornwells know something, that's why they got the alarm system. They know what is really going on but LE won't let them talk nor will they tell us.

If there is a crazy out there and LE told us, how many people would be shooting first and asking questions later? This is a different part of the country. It is nothing to hear gunshots any time of day. People target practice and just shoot their guns. It is no big deal here. We all have them. It may be safer for the innocent for us NOT to know there is a crazy person loose just for that reason alone.

JMO

Good point!

[SaraSidle]

IMO, the Cornwells know something, that's why they got the alarm system. They know what is really going on but LE won't let them talk nor will they tell us.

If there is a crazy out there and LE told us, how many people would be shooting first and asking questions later? This is a different part of the country. It is nothing to hear gunshots any time of day. People target practice and just shoot their guns. It is no big deal here. We all have them. It may be safer for the innocent for us NOT to know there is a crazy person loose just for that reason alone.

JMO


I wonder if the Cornwells knew she was engaged to DD?

[mitzi]

I live about 20 minutes from Blairsville. Still know nothing but I still have my gut feelings about this. I have no proof so I don't post.

But think about this:
Why did the family feel an alarm was necessary? Yes I have locks on my doors now but an alarm? I actually take my keys out of my car now and lock it in my driveway!! That is huge! I always throw them in the console even at the grocery store. Not any more... nope... not now.

Why is the family quiet? If it were my child, I would be searching the mountains myself organizing groups to search etc.

To me it is pointing back to my theory is that we have a dangerous criminal out here. Why else would the family be quieted by LE? Why else would they feel the need for an alarm system? It's the only thing that makes sense to me.

I think they are hoping to find this person before he/they strike again.

Just my opinion, don't have a link or any proof of my suspicions.

Prayers for Kristi and her wonderful family!

Good point about the alarm! And the needs list also mentioned curtains. Maybe they were afraid someone was coming back. Security and privacy was a real concern to them.

Still don't understand the quiet though....it's too quiet....

[mitzi]

I just took another look at www.kristicornwell.com and was struck by something odd (at least to me). The family is having tee shirts printed to sell in order to keep Kristi's name and face in people's minds and raise money for the search fund. They also have a link to a retail site where people can buy stickers, pins, mugs, and magnets showing a tipline number and her photo.

I can understand selling the shirts, stickers, and buttons as they will be worn around town. I can't figure out why magnets and mugs would be sold.

Does anyone know if it's common practice in a missing person case for stuff like this to be sold? Like I said, it stood out as being strange to me but may very well be done on a regular basis in these situations.

Thanks.

It's normal if your George and Cindy Anthony....but other people? Probably not. If I have a nice shiny Kristi coffee mug on my desk, that help's nothing except funds for a search. Instead of buying a mug that you have to sell, why not just seek the donation straight out.

Oh, and when you get the money for a search? Searching might be a good idea.

I'm not in thier shoes, so I don't mean to sound critical, I just don't see if being that helpful. If the name isn't in the news, who is going to go to the website to purchase?

[C.Hound]

I wonder if the Cornwells knew she was engaged to DD?

I wouldn't put much stock in DD's words about the engagement. The family knew very little about him before everything happened and close friends of Kristi have stated in newspaper articles they had never heard of him. I don't think a woman would get engaged and keep it a secret.

[mitzi]

snipped by me.

I hope for everyone's sake there isn't a dangerous criminal roaming and LE is keeping it hush-hush, but you make a good point about the request for an alarm system in a part of the country where people don't routinely lock their doors.

Maybe it's also possible that the Cornwells may suspect who the likely perp(s) is and are concerned they will be targeted next. Just throwing out additional possible scenarios.

I hope not, too! My parents live right off 325, and I worry about them since there aren't homes next door to them.

They may be worried about that, but I would think these perps wouldn't come back to the scene of the crime. Then again - there are some pretty crazy people out there.

[mitzi]

I wonder if the Cornwells knew she was engaged to DD?

Didn't sound like it. There was some statement DD made about meeting them 2 days earlier. He said "they didn't know who we were, but that was by design."

Whatever the h that means. Strange situation and a really strange comment.

Bet they were shocked to find out a few days later that KC and DD were planning to be married!

[C.Hound]

I hope not, too! My parents live right off 325, and I worry about them since there aren't homes next door to them.

They may be worried about that, but I would think these perps wouldn't come back to the scene of the crime. Then again - there are some pretty crazy people out there.

Mitzi, are you familiar with the road Kristi walked? After reading the truecrimereport.com post about the case of mistaken identity with the alleged witness who thought he/she saw Kristi and a man walking together when it actually was a husband and wife, I'm curious if it's a road used regularly by walkers. Perhaps this couple, and maybe others, passed Kristi and have provided LE with a fairly accurate timeline that may not be the one reported by the press.

[mitzi]

Mitzi, are you familiar with the road Kristi walked? After reading the truecrimereport.com post about the case of mistaken identity with the alleged witness who thought he/she saw Kristi and a man walking together when it actually was a husband and wife, I'm curious if it's a road used regularly by walkers. Perhaps this couple, and maybe others, passed Kristi and have provided LE with a fairly accurate timeline that may not be the one reported by the press.

Unfortunately, I'm not. I have been all around, but I can't remember being on that road. My brother lives around the corner sort of, but I get to his house from a different turn off.

If KC went out around 9, and these people were seen closer to 8, they may not have ever seen each other.

I would think it would only be residents of the road that walk there. Most others in the area probably go to Meeks park over on 515.

[C.Hound]

Unfortunately, I'm not. I have been all around, but I can't remember being on that road. My brother lives around the corner sort of, but I get to his house from a different turn off.

If KC went out around 9, and these people were seen closer to 8, they may not have ever seen each other.

I would think it would only be residents of the road that walk there. Most others in the area probably go to Meeks park over on 515.

Did Kristi leave the house around 9? I thought her mom said goodbye to her at about 8pm, or maybe that was another misquote in the sea of confusing and inconsistent information that is floating around. :smile:

[HALE 2d GNAW]

It's normal if your George and Cindy Anthony....but other people? Probably not. If I have a nice shiny Kristi coffee mug on my desk, that help's nothing except funds for a search. Instead of buying a mug that you have to sell, why not just seek the donation straight out.

Oh, and when you get the money for a search? Searching might be a good idea.

I'm not in thier shoes, so I don't mean to sound critical, I just don't see if being that helpful. If the name isn't in the news, who is going to go to the website to purchase?

LOL.

Does anyone else find the requests for batteries, flashlights and fans odd? Hopefully, Kristi's Home Depot manager can donate those items.

This statement on the family website seems so at odds with their behavior. They may have a perfectly good reason for not getting on camera. I just wish they'd let us know.


Thank you to all the local and national media that are helping us get out the word out about Kristi’s disappearance and are helping us get her image in front of people so you can help us look for her.

[just42day97]

I wonder if the Cornwells knew she was engaged to DD?

I don't think so...as a matter of fact..DD himself pretty much said that in a couple of his interviews....His statement was something like..
He had just met some of Kristi's family..but they didn't know who "We" were by design....
In other words the way I took that was he had met them and maybe they pretended to just be friends around Kristi's parents.

[just42day97]

Did Kristi leave the house around 9? I thought her mom said goodbye to her at about 8pm, or maybe that was another misquote in the sea of confusing and inconsistent information that is floating around. :smile:

That is one of the big problems...so many times has been reported.I've seen at least 3 I think..And remember the reports in the media about Kristi's phone being found? the media reported 1 mile away, 2 miles away..2.5 miles...3 miles..and 5 miles...lol Not even the media can get things right with this case...Who really know what the truth is...
That is why I don't put to much stock in the stories of DD being cleared...was that even reported right??...

[SaraSidle]

So if DD and KC passed themselves off as friends, they had just met a short time ago and now DD is saying their engaged??? I guess if he knows she is not alive no one can argue and he can be the grieving fiance. I wonder if there was an engagement ring somewhere. IMO
sara

[just42day97]

So if DD and KC passed themselves off as friends, they had just met a short time ago and now DD is saying their engaged??? I guess if he knows she is not alive no one can argue and he can be the grieving fiance. I wonder if there was an engagement ring somewhere. IMO
sara

I've not heard of a ring..dosen't mean there isn't one....If in fact Kristi was talking "marriage" with DD, not sure why she would be doing that so soon after her divorce, and with a man she hardly knew...

[JanJan]

There are so many unknowns in this case. (I have been following the Annie Le murder at Yale. LE didn’t give any info to anyone until they had enough evidence to make an arrest.) I’m just wondering if LE knows who the perp is in Kristi’s case and is keeping an eye on him/her until they have enough evidence to make an arrest. Like everyone else, I don’t understand why the family and LE are not more visibly “searching” for Kristi. IMO, it’s almost like they know who the perp is and may even be following him/her to try to find Kristi. Odd that nothing’s been updated on the Eliana website since 9/2 or 9/3 and most of that was pretty old stuff. Is DD no longer making prayer requests for Kristi?

Just my thoughts and opinions.

[ClimbingRose]

I just took another look at www.kristicornwell.com and was struck by something odd (at least to me). The family is having tee shirts printed to sell in order to keep Kristi's name and face in people's minds and raise money for the search fund. They also have a link to a retail site where people can buy stickers, pins, mugs, and magnets showing a tipline number and her photo.

I can understand selling the shirts, stickers, and buttons as they will be worn around town. I can't figure out why magnets and mugs would be sold.

Does anyone know if it's common practice in a missing person case for stuff like this to be sold? Like I said, it stood out as being strange to me but may very well be done on a regular basis in these situations.

Thanks.


I'm responding to this to bring it over to today's discussion. Some may disagree, just be polite about, but this is wrong. Normally, these sort of items are donated and with the family having a church family and local friends and familys. This family wants to sell things of Kristi but won't talk to the media, keep her website updated or release a simple statement as to where they stand with things. Not very nice(if you ask me)

MO
ClimbingRose

[ClimbingRose]

There are so many unknowns in this case. (I have been following the Annie Le murder at Yale. LE didn’t give any info to anyone until they had enough evidence to make an arrest.) I’m just wondering if LE knows who the perp is in Kristi’s case and is keeping an eye on him/her until they have enough evidence to make an arrest. Like everyone else, I don’t understand why the family and LE are not more visibly “searching” for Kristi. IMO, it’s almost like they know who the perp is and may even be following him/her to try to find Kristi. Odd that nothing’s been updated on the Eliana website since 9/2 or 9/3 and most of that was pretty old stuff. Is DD no longer making prayer requests for Kristi?

Just my thoughts and opinions.




Odd indeed, even if LE had someone on radar, would think that by continuing to make announcments or searches or whatever is normally done would go further with finding the perp. They wouldn't have any idea LE was on to something and thus their guard would remain down.

MO

Just my thoughts and opinions.[/QUOTE]

[SaraSidle]

I've not heard of a ring..dosen't mean there isn't one....If in fact Kristi was talking "marriage" with DD, not sure why she would be doing that so soon after her divorce, and with a man she hardly knew...

There is something not right there. IMO

[ClimbingRose]

So if DD and KC passed themselves off as friends, they had just met a short time ago and now DD is saying their engaged??? I guess if he knows she is not alive no one can argue and he can be the grieving fiance. I wonder if there was an engagement ring somewhere. IMO
sara

With this case, wouldn't put it past him to behave as such.

MO
ClimbingRose

[ClimbingRose]

LOL.

Does anyone else find the requests for batteries, flashlights and fans odd? Hopefully, Kristi's Home Depot manager can donate those items.

This statement on the family website seems so at odds with their behavior. They may have a perfectly good reason for not getting on camera. I just wish they'd let us know.


Thank you to all the local and national media that are helping us get out the word out about Kristi’s disappearance and are helping us get her image in front of people so you can help us look for her.



Nope, I'm with Mitzi and you. Is anyone up for a weekend trip?:wink:

ClimbingRose
MO

[JanJan]

There is something not right there. IMO

Join the club, SS. Something hasn' been right with this case from the very beginning. Very few hints, etc. to the media. And, NO ONE is talking - not family, friends, LE - NO ONE! This is why some people in the area are really scared. If there's a "loony toon" out there, looks like they would want to warn the people. If you look back on some of the earlier threads, we do have our suspicions.


My thoughts and opinions only.

[seemsodd]

back up on top above news links...carry on.

[C.Hound]

Originally Posted by C.Hound:

I just took another look at www.kristicornwell.com and was struck by something odd (at least to me). The family is having tee shirts printed to sell in order to keep Kristi's name and face in people's minds and raise money for the search fund. They also have a link to a retail site where people can buy stickers, pins, mugs, and magnets showing a tipline number and her photo.

I can understand selling the shirts, stickers, and buttons as they will be worn around town. I can't figure out why magnets and mugs would be sold.

Does anyone know if it's common practice in a missing person case for stuff like this to be sold? Like I said, it stood out as being strange to me but may very well be done on a regular basis in these situations.

Thanks.

I'm responding to this to bring it over to today's discussion. Some may disagree, just be polite about, but this is wrong. Normally, these sort of items are donated and with the family having a church family and local friends and familys. This family wants to sell things of Kristi but won't talk to the media, keep her website updated or release a simple statement as to where they stand with things. Not very nice(if you ask me)

MO
ClimbingRose

Thank you ClimbingRose and Mitzi for agreeing with my unease at what I found at Kristi's website. After my original post, I felt guilty for putting it out there and thought I might have been too critical. As CR stated, the website isn't being updated to indicate if searches are even being organized, so there's no way to know if the money and items received are being used. I can't imagine any reason why the Cornwells wouldn't be allowed to publish that information. Definitely adds to this case's strange silence.

[ClimbingRose]

C. Hound you are not alone. I think we've been around long enough with situations such as this to trust our hinky meters when they go off.

I'll head off and see what I can find.

BTW: Anyone for a nice weekend trip to GEORGIA?:wink:

[just42day97]

C. Hound you are not alone. I think we've been around long enough with situations such as this to trust our hinky meters when they go off.

I'll head off and see what I can find.

BTW: Anyone for a nice weekend trip to GEORGIA?:wink:

It would be nice if a search could happen..trip to GA would be good!

[seemsodd]

deer season started I know the woods are full of bow hunters, guys laid off from their jobs hunting their winter venson.. but then again I know the woods have been full of searchers also not sure what will be found.

As for the Cooper Creek area, I know of a couple of local hunters that have cabins in that area they have been in the woods all summer and back this fall , along creek banks fishing most of these hunters know the woods like the back of their hand but haven't turned up any leads.


I still wonder why the GBI/FBI focus on tips from our neighbor state N.C. as more credible than the ones they recieve from this area at least those tips are the ones making the nightly news, LE must know more than they are letting us know..JMO..

[C.Hound]

deer season started I know the woods are full of bow hunters, guys laid off from their jobs hunting their winter venson.. but then again I know the woods have been full of searchers also not sure what will be found.

As for the Cooper Creek area, I know of a couple of local hunters that have cabins in that area they have been in the woods all summer and back this fall , along creek banks fishing most of these hunters know the woods like the back of their hand but haven't turned up any leads.


I still wonder why the GBI/FBI focus on tips from our neighbor state N.C. as more credible than the ones they recieve from this area at least those tips are the ones making the nightly news, LE must know more than they are letting us know..JMO..

I forgot hunting season has begun. I definitely wouldn't want to be in the woods and be mistaken for a deer even if I'm wearing a fashionable neon orange vest. If hunters in GA or like those around VA and MD, it doesn't take much to become trigger happy with anything that moves.

Good point about the NC tip that was thoroughly investigated but silence related to possible leads closer to home. It does seem LE knows a lot more than what has been released to the public.

[just42day97]

deer season started I know the woods are full of bow hunters, guys laid off from their jobs hunting their winter venson.. but then again I know the woods have been full of searchers also not sure what will be found.

As for the Cooper Creek area, I know of a couple of local hunters that have cabins in that area they have been in the woods all summer and back this fall , along creek banks fishing most of these hunters know the woods like the back of their hand but haven't turned up any leads.


I still wonder why the GBI/FBI focus on tips from our neighbor state N.C. as more credible than the ones they recieve from this area at least those tips are the ones making the nightly news, LE must know more than they are letting us know..JMO..


I don't mean any disrespect towards anyone that has searched...any searches are better than none at all..BUT if someone doesn't know how to search right then things can be overlooked...easily..Searches need to be set up with local search teams with experience.
Also IMO, if in fact someone did take Kristi and it was only one person, then hiding that person is harder than it is with 2 or more ppl.
I still can't can't make up my mind...about did she leave on her own or not..
At this point LE being so quite about everything in Kristi's case does not lead me to think they are watching someone...if a case is new and they are not saying anything I would believe that..I think they don't know anything to say...But the family not saying anything is what gets me..I keep going back to Mary Beth Smith's case..the family acted almost the same. And the family was pretty sure with Mary's case she has left on her own..and she had...
Grr...wished some leads would come up....

[Curious]

I know one member is corresponding on another, mainly just to say Thank You and such

I agree that sometimes silence tells me that there's a particular reason why nothing is being shared. But, I've read some comments about the local LE who aren't thought highly of and then I read the GBI director talk about the budget cuts and where they're going to have to focus the most of their money on. Then the director calls for citizens to step up and help but doesn't follow thru with that. What does he want us to do? Didn't they refuse a research/recovery team? (Can't remember)
He still won't release anything such as a crumb.. So, please give us some direction to go in.

IMO
ClimbingRose

Thank you ClimbingRose for so clearly saying what most of us are thinking! The GBI Director (can't find the story link, so writing form memory) spoke at a Rotary (?) lunch meeting and griped about cutbacks and budgets, then as you said asked for the public's help in finding Kristi?!!!! WTH? Then SILENCE, no follow through pressers, Zip Zilch, NADA!

In my mind that was a mistake on his part and no one has called him on it. His creditability is now in question as he chose a non-public meeting as his forum to ask the public for help? I wonder if one of the locals would consider writing a letter to the editor of a paper with sizable circulation regarding this matter? Would that get some attention from Local LE/GBI?

Then we have Speak Out who seems to have some sort of inside info on the investigation or at least wants us to believe he/she does. Are you LE or not, why are you posting the statements you are? What is your motivation for doing so? I don't think you should say what you say unless you want to be called on it or identify your sources!

Sorry for the rant, can you tell this is frustrating me :blushing:

[Speak Out]

I have never claimed to be affiliated with this case. My motivation to speak out is to re-direct gossip and people who want daily press releases purely to satisfy their curiousity and rant against LE when they don't provide their daily fix. It's pretty obvious that this board is open for people who make a hobby out of the tragedies of others and not for people who understand this is real life and not a crime mystery novel. Anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome, so I won't bother to contribute further.

[doradoll]

I have never claimed to be affiliated with this case. My motivation to speak out is to re-direct gossip and people who want daily press releases purely to satisfy their curiousity and rant against LE when they don't provide their daily fix. It's pretty obvious that this board is open for people who make a hobby out of the tragedies of others and not for people who understand this is real life and not a crime mystery novel. Anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome, so I won't bother to contribute further.


well said

and to include those that don't have a hinky meter trained on DD

I left awhile ago and come back occasionally to see if something real is developing.

[KatieLady]

I have never claimed to be affiliated with this case. My motivation to speak out is to re-direct gossip and people who want daily press releases purely to satisfy their curiousity and rant against LE when they don't provide their daily fix. It's pretty obvious that this board is open for people who make a hobby out of the tragedies of others and not for people who understand this is real life and not a crime mystery novel. Anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome, so I won't bother to contribute further.

I believe that this board is open for discussion of all possibilities. We may not agree but posters have the right to post their opinions.

Ones opinion does not out weigh the others. IMO

[doctor_J]

I have never claimed to be affiliated with this case. My motivation to speak out is to re-direct gossip and people who want daily press releases purely to satisfy their curiosity and rant against LE when they don't provide their daily fix. It's pretty obvious that this board is open for people who make a hobby out of the tragedies of others and not for people who understand this is real life and not a crime mystery novel. Anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome, so I won't bother to contribute further.

Please don't take one poster's rudeness as representative of the forum. You are welcome to post and is every member and I appreciate any info that comes this way. Just wanted to let you know that not everyone that reads and follows this forum is griping or criticizing K's loved ones, LE (local or GBI), or other posters.

I don't see any less info on this case than any other adult missing person on this forum. In fact, there's more than many. Adults are allowed to go missing and LE does not always know if a crime has been committed. The brother has left his professional job to search for Kristi. The parents are old and not likely to be able to stand on the road with a sign in the heat. The mother is obviously emotionally devastated. The parents are probably not physically able to tolerate the endless nights of worry and lack of sleep and are not doing well. I see this as why they are not combing the woods daily. Besides, where to start?? I take the news that brother has left job to search as the family doing whatever is necessary, whether she is voluntarily missing or not.

As far as whether LE should tell locals to beware of a crazy on the loose, they have said that they consider this an abduction. They have cleared her love interests, both present and past, and by stating this openly have reduced the possibility of a domestic situation. That only leaves one option -- a crazy is on the loose and people should take precautions!! They HAVE to leave this as top possibility even if they think she might be voluntarily missing, because they can't eliminate this scenario and in fact have said the evidence points in this direction (although they can't know if staging was done).

I am personally not the least bit suspicious of DD. Also not surprised that she was talking marriage and not telling family or friends. She has a history of bad judgement regarding men and probably knew they would vigorously disapprove of another sudden and reckless marriage especially to someone she met online. Seems all she learned from past mistakes was to keep secrets. I just doubt that DD would lie on national TV without being able to back it up with personal e-mails, chat history, phone records, etc., if LE asked for it.

As far as DD continuing to update and speak out, My God, the guy may have finally got a clue that he was not helping and was not winning anyone over and realized he needed to shut up. Maybe even got some good legal advice. Maybe his daughter told him and he finally listened. Maybe he's over his short lived romance and on to the next.

If LE have no news, why should they waste time saying nothing has changed?

[Ms Daisy]

It would be nice if a search could happen..trip to GA would be good!

I agree, but only if it's sanctioned and/or led by LE or certified search and rescue personnel. Here's why;

In the past few years, as you know, many methamphetamine labs have been found on public land...some on private land where owners have large tracts of land they don't cover on a daily basis.

"Cookers" are set up often "in plain view"....as in campgrounds...some way back in the forest in remote sites where Forestry Service visit only rarely. Some have even set up in modern RVs in campgrounds un known to neighboring campers.

It is extremely dangerous for hikers or campers should they mistakenly stumble upon a meth lab. If you do, you should recognize those items to look for and the smells that are the tip off. You shouldn't smell chemicals in the deep forest. If you do....back out of there and call LE.

I know you've read about those who have dissappeared or found dead after accidentally coming across a meth lab. Be aware that these are criminals you're dealing with and don't let the natural beauty of the forest lull you into that 'false sense of security'.

Personally, I wouldn't come from out of state, for instance, to undertake a search and rescue on my own. You need to know exactly the terrain in these mountains and area of the country before you undertake such a dangerous search.

Stay safe

[doradoll]

Thanks Dr J,

I can't believe I have posted here twice when I told myself weeks ago that I wouldn't post on this thread again. But, when I saw your name, I knew we had a voice of reason!

Anyone who thinks that there is little info in this case ought to check out poor Bob, the missing 80-something year old and all the pages and pages of Amber Alerts/Missing people thread. There are many that I look for news everyday or so. Marcilene Smith's case touches me. But there are plenty to choose from and pick apart. So long as we are not picking apart their family and friends on a whim.

Or we could discuss this 911 call again! :bored:

Hoping Kristi's family and friends gets some answers soon.

Dora

[C.Hound]

I have never claimed to be affiliated with this case. My motivation to speak out is to re-direct gossip and people who want daily press releases purely to satisfy their curiousity and rant against LE when they don't provide their daily fix. It's pretty obvious that this board is open for people who make a hobby out of the tragedies of others and not for people who understand this is real life and not a crime mystery novel. Anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome, so I won't bother to contribute further.

The general consensus is that just about everything with this case is gossip because LE has yet to hold a press conference or issue a press release. Their silence is making lots of people scratch their heads and wonder what's going on, especially locals who are living in fear of what LE knows (if anything) but isn't sharing. I don't think anyone is expecting a daily recap, but an update at this point in time to share information that won't compromise the situation certainly couldn't hurt and would put an end to some of the gossip.

Because so much misinformation is being presented by posters and the media, people who post new information but don't include citations or sources for that information are asked to provide it; otherwise, it appears they have the inside scoop, are LE, have an agenda, or are simply gossiping.

If you have real information to contribute, then please do so but also be prepared to let us know why you know what you do.

[Ms Daisy]

I have never claimed to be affiliated with this case. My motivation to speak out is to re-direct gossip and people who want daily press releases purely to satisfy their curiousity and rant against LE when they don't provide their daily fix. It's pretty obvious that this board is open for people who make a hobby out of the tragedies of others and not for people who understand this is real life and not a crime mystery novel. Anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome, so I won't bother to contribute further.

I hear ya', Speak Out. And there are plenty of them. However, I believe that many, if not most, are here out of sincere concern for their fellowman and really want to help where they can.

I know, also, local residence in Blairsville and surrounding counties are on edge and sometime get a bit touchy. Hang in there.

[ClimbingRose]

Thank you ClimbingRose for so clearly saying what most of us are thinking! The GBI Director (can't find the story link, so writing form memory) spoke at a Rotary (?) lunch meeting and griped about cutbacks and budgets, then as you said asked for the public's help in finding Kristi?!!!! WTH? Then SILENCE, no follow through pressers, Zip Zilch, NADA!

In my mind that was a mistake on his part and no one has called him on it. His creditability is now in question as he chose a non-public meeting as his forum to ask the public for help? I wonder if one of the locals would consider writing a letter to the editor of a paper with sizable circulation regarding this matter? Would that get some attention from Local LE/GBI?

Then we have Speak Out who seems to have some sort of inside info on the investigation or at least wants us to believe he/she does. Are you LE or not, why are you posting the statements you are? What is your motivation for doing so? I don't think you should say what you say unless you want to be called on it or identify your sources!

Sorry for the rant, can you tell this is frustrating me :blushing:



There's room here at our table and enjoy a nice glass of wine. It helps clear the mind to make sense out of something makes absolutely no sense and a list of issues that make your head hurt.

IMO
ClimbingRose

[Peaches]

Nope, I'm with Mitzi and you. Is anyone up for a weekend trip?:wink:

ClimbingRose
MO


There will be plenty of people in those North Georgia mountains during October.

[ClimbingRose]

Thanks Dr J,

I can't believe I have posted here twice when I told myself weeks ago that I wouldn't post on this thread again. But, when I saw your name, I knew we had a voice of reason!

Anyone who thinks that there is little info in this case ought to check out poor Bob, the missing 80-something year old and all the pages and pages of Amber Alerts/Missing people thread. There are many that I look for news everyday or so. Marcilene Smith's case touches me. But there are plenty to choose from and pick apart. So long as we are not picking apart their family and friends on a whim.

Or we could discuss this 911 call again! :bored:

Hoping Kristi's family and friends gets some answers soon.

Dora


Makes sense to me...the 911 call

1. Was someone with DD during this call?
2. Who initiated this call DD or Kristi
3. Why hasn't this friend been verified by self or LE?
4. Has this "friend"s phone been reviewed by LE?
5. Kristi was walking around 9:30 while DD stated he was eating dinner.


Anyone?

MO
ClimbingRose

[ClimbingRose]

There will be plenty of people in those North Georgia mountains during October.

Not even any room for a few?

MO
ClimbingRose

[Curious]

I have never claimed to be affiliated with this case. My motivation to speak out is to re-direct gossip and people who want daily press releases purely to satisfy their curiousity and rant against LE when they don't provide their daily fix. It's pretty obvious that this board is open for people who make a hobby out of the tragedies of others and not for people who understand this is real life and not a crime mystery novel. Anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome, so I won't bother to contribute further.

Fair enough, I bit and you responded in kind. Perhaps I should have phrased it differently, but I stand by my position. You post as if you have inside information but do not quote your sources. Are you including yourself in the "anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome"? How do we know your information is "real"? I have NEVER posted GOSSIP or RUMOR unless I specifically identify it as such.

Why are you here if you think this Board (and others you post on) is comprised of people who make a hobby of the tragedies of crime victims and their families? Nothing could be further from the truth!

[Curious]

There's room here at our table and enjoy a nice glass of wine. It helps clear the mind to make sense out of something makes absolutely no sense and a list of issues that make your head hurt.

IMO
ClimbingRose

I'm done with the rant and apologize CR, my goal is not to disturb the peace or start arguments here. I will post nothing further on the matter, I'm done.

I live in wine country, lol but rarely drink it. How bout a glass of sparkling cider? :wink:

[Ms Daisy]

Why are you here if you think this Board (and others you post on) is comprised of people who make a hobby of the tragedies of crime victims and their families? Nothing could be further from the truth!

Curious, let's don't come down so hard on the locals. They're scared to death. They're not getting any comfort or feeling of safety from LE and they're bound to start getting upset. There's only been this second abduction there in two years. I don't remember if there was ever one before.

I live in the next county and residents here are getting nuts about their security.

[ClimbingRose]

IMO, the Cornwells know something, that's why they got the alarm system. They know what is really going on but LE won't let them talk nor will they tell us.

If there is a crazy out there and LE told us, how many people would be shooting first and asking questions later? This is a different part of the country. It is nothing to hear gunshots any time of day. People target practice and just shoot their guns. It is no big deal here. We all have them. It may be safer for the innocent for us NOT to know there is a crazy person loose just for that reason alone.

JMO

Why would LE tell the Cornwell family so they could take precautions for safety and not share with the other neighbors so they too could set up their own precautions? How is it safer not to be aware of danger and thus not take precautions versus giving us some form of warning so we could at least attempt to implement some way to keep our own family safe?

MO
ClimbingRose

[ClimbingRose]

I'm done with the rant and apologize CR, my goal is not to disturb the peace or start arguments here. I will post nothing further on the matter, I'm done.

I live in wine country, lol but rarely drink it. How bout a glass of sparkling cider? :wink:

I don't think ranting is wrong. To me it's like brainstorming. Don't worry about disrupting the same ol b/c without speaking out then nothing gets done. Yes, you can have the cider and I'll hold onto your glass of wine.:biggrin:

[just42day97]

I agree, but only if it's sanctioned and/or led by LE or certified search and rescue personnel. Here's why;

In the past few years, as you know, many methamphetamine labs have been found on public land...some on private land where owners have large tracts of land they don't cover on a daily basis.

"Cookers" are set up often "in plain view"....as in campgrounds...some way back in the forest in remote sites where Forestry Service visit only rarely. Some have even set up in modern RVs in campgrounds un known to neighboring campers.

It is extremely dangerous for hikers or campers should they mistakenly stumble upon a meth lab. If you do, you should recognize those items to look for and the smells that are the tip off. You shouldn't smell chemicals in the deep forest. If you do....back out of there and call LE.

I know you've read about those who have dissappeared or found dead after accidentally coming across a meth lab. Be aware that these are criminals you're dealing with and don't let the natural beauty of the forest lull you into that 'false sense of security'.

Personally, I wouldn't come from out of state, for instance, to undertake a search and rescue on my own. You need to know exactly the terrain in these mountains and area of the country before you undertake such a dangerous search.

Stay safe


I said that in another post...only if it was organized by LE or a search team....

[just42day97]

I have never claimed to be affiliated with this case. My motivation to speak out is to re-direct gossip and people who want daily press releases purely to satisfy their curiousity and rant against LE when they don't provide their daily fix. It's pretty obvious that this board is open for people who make a hobby out of the tragedies of others and not for people who understand this is real life and not a crime mystery novel. Anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome, so I won't bother to contribute further.

That is not true for all of us..I have been invloved with mising person cases for years..and my hobby is not tragedies of others...as a matter of fact I hate that for anyone...I do more than sit here on the computer...and I won't say anymore about that..But please don't put out a generic profile for everyone on this board...thank you

[just42day97]

Fair enough, I bit and you responded in kind. Perhaps I should have phrased it differently, but I stand by my position. You post as if you have inside information but do not quote your sources. Are you including yourself in the "anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome"? How do we know your information is "real"? I have NEVER posted GOSSIP or RUMOR unless I specifically identify it as such.

Why are you here if you think this Board (and others you post on) is comprised of people who make a hobby of the tragedies of crime victims and their families? Nothing could be further from the truth!

I totally agree!!!:thumbup:

[ClimbingRose]

I have never claimed to be affiliated with this case. My motivation to speak out is to re-direct gossip and people who want daily press releases purely to satisfy their curiousity and rant against LE when they don't provide their daily fix. It's pretty obvious that this board is open for people who make a hobby out of the tragedies of others and not for people who understand this is real life and not a crime mystery novel. Anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome, so I won't bother to contribute further.


I don't recall any of us ever claiming to be affiliated with the LE. Our motivation for discussing ANY case regardless of the subject is to share our own opinions, concerns, theories and beliefs all of which we are entitled to. As for ranting about LE, without questioning or inquiring to any behaviors or procedures thats done by LE then we would still be living in a time when LE was never questioned or held to a standard. However, by questioning the thoughts or reasons for particular actions then LE are able to improve what needs to be.
I assure you we do not sign on a crime forum for any form of hobby which gives any sense of enjoyment from the tragedies of others. But we do share tears and offer each other comfort during the saddness. Many of the victims are carried in our hearts and on our lips when we pray.

[ClimbingRose]

Fair enough, I bit and you responded in kind. Perhaps I should have phrased it differently, but I stand by my position. You post as if you have inside information but do not quote your sources. Are you including yourself in the "anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome"? How do we know your information is "real"? I have NEVER posted GOSSIP or RUMOR unless I specifically identify it as such.

Why are you here if you think this Board (and others you post on) is comprised of people who make a hobby of the tragedies of crime victims and their families? Nothing could be further from the truth!


Bravo for your words If shoots or hoorays could be heard, then hear mine.

MO
ClimbingRose

[doctor_J]

I'm confused about what Speak Out has posted that made him/her a target of being "called out" to justify posts. I went to the listing of all his/her posts. There is nothing there that could be considered "inside info" or suggesting LE is posting on a MB. The only possibility is that he/she posted that Richard Cornwell had access to a plane. Everything else has been referred to a link or posted as an opinion.

What other warning does anyone want from LE? They don't know what happened. It's been widely reported that a woman was abducted while walking alone and that her lovers were cleared. It's even been recently reported that this same thing happened in recent history in the same general area and the victim was raped/murdered.

What other possible warning does anyone need?? They can't announce something they can not confirm (that there is a serial kidnapper/rapist/murderer in the area). They also can not announce that Krist is voluntarily missing if they have not located her.

[wolfscratch]

Irony, coincidence? You make the call; took the grandchildren on a gold panning and gem prospecting adventure in Dahlonega, GA last weekend. At the end of my street, a friend was having a yard sale. He sells firewood in the winter and I have known him about 2 years. We stopped to check out the yard sale.
He drives a truck now from Dawsonville, to Savannah, and back to Blairsville, GA.
His fiance lives next door to the Cornwells on Jones Creek Rd., in Blairsvile, GA, and knew Kristi well. I ask him what her thoughts were as too what happened to Kristi. As he told me her thoughts, he mentioned that his fiance's family owned a mountain off Notterly Dam Rd/Hwy 325 named Davenport Mountain. He said that it had an open gate to the National Forest and to their knowledge that the area had not been searched. He said you can ride for days on the logging roads deep into the vast forest.
The Davenport Mountain is shown on this link:
http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=Bl...7&ie=UTF8&z=12

[wolfscratch]

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20963863/detail.html

Snipet:
Hunter Finds Murderer Gary Hilton's Campground

Posted: 9:55 am EDT September 17, 2009Updated: 3:33 pm EDT September 17, 2009
JACKSON, Ga. -- A hunter accidentally found camping supplies, clothes and books belonging to convicted killer Gary Michael Hilton in the Chattahoochee National Forest, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

It happened last Friday at a concealed campsite and the hunter thought the supplies were illegally dumped or stolen.

Fannin County Sheriff's Sgt. Justin Turner said it's an area Hilton frequented.
*************************************************

The Alert Hunter; 'eyes and ears of the forest', said that he thought the campsite may have been Kristi Cornwell's abductors and contacted Park Officials, who in turn rercognized as Hilton's and contacted Law enforcement.
Although this discovery did not help in the Cornwell investigation, he may have solved the mystery surrounding other innocent victims of another evil predator.
This demonstrates the public awareness in Kristi's tragic case.

[wolfscratch]

Davenport Mountain Link, Blairsvile, GA:

http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=Davenport+Mountain+Rd,+Blairsville,+GA+ 30512&geocode=CcB-bn8a151WFWHYFAIdRpv8-g&dirflg=&saddr=jones+creek+rd+blairsville+ga&f=d&sll=34.921971,-84.108474&sspn=0.008164,0.013797&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=13

[C.Hound]

Irony, coincidence? You make the call; took the grandchildren on a gold panning and gem prospecting adventure in Dahlonega, GA last weekend. At the end of my street, a friend was having a yard sale. He sells firewood in the winter and I have known him about 2 years. We stopped to check out the yard sale.
He drives a truck now from Dawsonville, to Savannah, and back to Blairsville, GA.
His fiance lives next door to the Cornwells on Jones Creek Rd., in Blairsvile, GA, and knew Kristi well. I ask him what her thoughts were as too what happened to Kristi. As he told me her thoughts, he mentioned that his fiance's family owned a mountain off Notterly Dam Rd/Hwy 325 named Davenport Mountain. He said that it had an open gate to the National Forest and to their knowledge that the area had not been searched. He said you can ride for days on the logging roads deep into the vast forest.
The Davenport Mountain is shown on this link:
http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=Bl...7&ie=UTF8&z=12

Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see any irony or coincidence. Would you mind elaborating? Thanks!

[just42day97]

I'm confused about what Speak Out has posted that made him/her a target of being "called out" to justify posts. I went to the listing of all his/her posts. There is nothing there that could be considered "inside info" or suggesting LE is posting on a MB. The only possibility is that he/she posted that Richard Cornwell had access to a plane. Everything else has been referred to a link or posted as an opinion.

What other warning does anyone want from LE? They don't know what happened. It's been widely reported that a woman was abducted while walking alone and that her lovers were cleared. It's even been recently reported that this same thing happened in recent history in the same general area and the victim was raped/murdered.

What other possible warning does anyone need?? They can't announce something they can not confirm (that there is a serial kidnapper/rapist/murderer in the area). They also can not announce that Krist is voluntarily missing if they have not located her.

post # 10 on this thread...I don't have a problem with Speak out at all. But the post stated that this case was being worked everyday. I think someone asked speakout how they knew that for sure...The way speakout said this..it sounded very matter of fact...

[ClimbingRose]

I'm confused about what Speak Out has posted that made him/her a target of being "called out" to justify posts. I went to the listing of all his/her posts. There is nothing there that could be considered "inside info" or suggesting LE is posting on a MB. The only possibility is that he/she posted that Richard Cornwell had access to a plane. Everything else has been referred to a link or posted as an opinion.

What other warning does anyone want from LE? They don't know what happened. It's been widely reported that a woman was abducted while walking alone and that her lovers were cleared. It's even been recently reported that this same thing happened in recent history in the same general area and the victim was raped/murdered.

What other possible warning does anyone need?? They can't announce something they can not confirm (that there is a serial kidnapper/rapist/murderer in the area). They also can not announce that Krist is voluntarily missing if they have not located her.


Some don't take kindly to be accused of hobbies which derive enjoyment from the tragedy of others. Posters don't post opinions or theories for the purpose of rumor making and as citizens of this great country we have the right to question or discuss motives about the crime and the actions of LE.

[doctor_J]

post # 10 on this thread...I don't have a problem with Speak out at all. But the post stated that this case was being worked everyday. I think someone asked speakout how they knew that for sure...The way speakout said this..it sounded very matter of fact...

Isn't that what LE said when they announced that the searches were ending but they would be working the case and following up leads everyday? That's what I thought but can't go back and research all releases.

As far as Speak Out accusing posters of enjoying the tragedy of others, I certainly don't approve of that kind of post. It's a put down, just as the one he/she received. "In kind" I believe it was posted. Speak Out was wrong, imo, but did not throw the first punch, so to speak.

It would be beneficial if all would be treated respectfully. If gagirl had not been attacked and run off, we might actually have some "inside info" even if it was slanted with an agenda. You can be sure if someone comes aboard that is close to the families or the investigation, they will not be able to withstand the personal insults and won't stay long.

[mitzi]

I have never claimed to be affiliated with this case. My motivation to speak out is to re-direct gossip and people who want daily press releases purely to satisfy their curiousity and rant against LE when they don't provide their daily fix. It's pretty obvious that this board is open for people who make a hobby out of the tragedies of others and not for people who understand this is real life and not a crime mystery novel. Anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome, so I won't bother to contribute further.

I'm sorry you feel that way. I simply asked the other day if you were a friend, neighbor or LE? Thought you might be on or the other. I was just curious.

In any case, being able to sort fact from fiction, or re-directing gossip, is very helpful. Dropping by to make little statements as if we are all obtuse, is not helpful.

I know this is being worked every. Just because we don't hear about, doesn't mean it isn't happening. But let's be real, we are here to discuss this case, and we would all like to know more about it.

In regards to your recent statement regarding Topix - you said it was not a reliable source. Of course it's not. It's a freakin' rumor mill with the occasional grain of truth thrown in. Anyone can read 3 posts there and see that they should be careful.

Most of us have been doing this for awhile, and things get rehashed over and over. Not everyone agrees with each other either. It's just the way it goes. And we do weed out the rumors. It just takes a little while to make sure it's been fully looked at. I know you are new to this here, and on WS, but you will see that this is the way it goes. And it has been working well at both boards for quite sometime.

If you want to discuss things, please join in.

[mitzi]

Isn't that what LE said when they announced that the searches were ending but they would be working the case and following up leads everyday? That's what I thought but can't go back and research all releases.

As far as Speak Out accusing posters of enjoying the tragedy of others, I certainly don't approve of that kind of post. It's a put down, just as the one he/she received. "In kind" I believe it was posted. Speak Out was wrong, imo, but did not throw the first punch, so to speak.

It would be beneficial if all would be treated respectfully. If gagirl had not been attacked and run off, we might actually have some "inside info" even if it was slanted with an agenda. You can be sure if someone comes aboard that is close to the families or the investigation, they will not be able to withstand the personal insults and won't stay long.

Doctor J, I have to respectfully disagree regarding gagirl. There may have been a couple of people who were not on their best behavior, but the majority were. At the time, we had a poster that was stirring the pot, claiming slander by IS members, telling the daughter to get a lawyer, blah blah blah. (Fortunately, Samantha is no longer allowed to be here.) I think the situation just escalated, and looked like people were abusing her.

I appreciate gagirl being here, but she really shouldn't have put herself in that position. The story was too new, there were too many questions, and at that time there were some things that were not adding up. If you come here, you will be asked questions. If you can't take the questions it may be best not to insert yourself into this situation. Because of that evening, we have Samantha on other boards telling everyone that IS members should be sued for slander. IP's should be gathered, lawyers should be sought etc. Absolute rubbish.

I'm in absolute agreement regarding the statement by Speak Out, and our enjoying the tragedy of others. That was a horrible thing to say, and a complete insult to ALL members of ALL true crime boards/forums.

[mitzi]

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/20963863/detail.html

Snipet:
Hunter Finds Murderer Gary Hilton's Campground

Posted: 9:55 am EDT September 17, 2009Updated: 3:33 pm EDT September 17, 2009
JACKSON, Ga. -- A hunter accidentally found camping supplies, clothes and books belonging to convicted killer Gary Michael Hilton in the Chattahoochee National Forest, according to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

It happened last Friday at a concealed campsite and the hunter thought the supplies were illegally dumped or stolen.

Fannin County Sheriff's Sgt. Justin Turner said it's an area Hilton frequented.
*************************************************

The Alert Hunter; 'eyes and ears of the forest', said that he thought the campsite may have been Kristi Cornwell's abductors and contacted Park Officials, who in turn rercognized as Hilton's and contacted Law enforcement.
Although this discovery did not help in the Cornwell investigation, he may have solved the mystery surrounding other innocent victims of another evil predator.
This demonstrates the public awareness in Kristi's tragic case.

Thank you for sharing this. It's good to know the hunters and outdoorsman are aware and on the look out.

[just42day97]

I don't recall any of us ever claiming to be affiliated with the LE. Our motivation for discussing ANY case regardless of the subject is to share our own opinions, concerns, theories and beliefs all of which we are entitled to. As for ranting about LE, without questioning or inquiring to any behaviors or procedures thats done by LE then we would still be living in a time when LE was never questioned or held to a standard. However, by questioning the thoughts or reasons for particular actions then LE are able to improve what needs to be.
I assure you we do not sign on a crime forum for any form of hobby which gives any sense of enjoyment from the tragedies of others. But we do share tears and offer each other comfort during the saddness. Many of the victims are carried in our hearts and on our lips when we pray.


Well stated CR...

[just42day97]

Isn't that what LE said when they announced that the searches were ending but they would be working the case and following up leads everyday? That's what I thought but can't go back and research all releases.

As far as Speak Out accusing posters of enjoying the tragedy of others, I certainly don't approve of that kind of post. It's a put down, just as the one he/she received. "In kind" I believe it was posted. Speak Out was wrong, imo, but did not throw the first punch, so to speak.

It would be beneficial if all would be treated respectfully. If gagirl had not been attacked and run off, we might actually have some "inside info" even if it was slanted with an agenda. You can be sure if someone comes aboard that is close to the families or the investigation, they will not be able to withstand the personal insults and won't stay long.


I think most of us here was very repectful to gagirl...We asked her questions and she was brave enough to come here and answer. She did kinda lie about a couple of the answers she gave...but she was taking up for her Daddy which I don't really blame her for I guess. I also took up for her when some here said they didn't understand her calling DD "Daddy". That's the way it's said in the south..most of the time..that didn't seem at all strange to me...
I think Gagirl had a lot of courage to come here. I also think a lot of the locals that have posted here have been helpful. As a matter of fact just last week I posted about someone here being kinda hateful to a local posting..
I'm not so sure that anyone here ran gagirl off. She may have been told this may not be the place to take up for her Daddy because of legal reasons. Or she could have just choose to not cont' to be here.
I would welcome her back if she came.
As far as everyone agreeing that comes to this board. If you check my posts I have said at least 3 times on Kristi's thread, that I enjoy reading others ideas and thoughts even if they don't line up with mine. If we were all the same, and thought the same this would be a very boring world.
I will say again that speakout has not really bothered me at all. That one post made it sound as if this person has some kind of inside info and when someone throws something like that out on a board like this..well we all know that ppl are gonna asked questions.

[doctor_J]

I think that I take the rudenesss and ugliness of a few posters too seriously but I'm learning about internet posting games. Notice the 2 posters that belittled and ridiculed gagirl the worst disappeared once she was gone and the fun was over.

For some reason, I first started here thinking people behaved online the same as in real life. Now I know that's not true. There's a whole science of internet anonymonity and it ain't pretty.

I hope more locals will come on and post, whether they know anything "inside" or not. It's good to get the local flavor. Like just42 and seemsodd have told us, as well as a handful of others, it's a scary thing not to know if a killer is out there. Also, I have a much better idea of the location and the potential for the perp to have virtually disappeared in just a few minutes.

My heart just breaks for Kristi's family. IF she is voluntarily missing, that's almost unbelievable cruelty. I'm leaning away from that theory as time goes by. It's just hard to envision how a man could have taken her without premeditation (didn't know she'd be there). It really took some determination. How in the world did he subdue her to drive? Maybe put her in trunk? If he had a gun or knife, there probably wouldn't have been an initial struggle. I can't help but wonder if he drove by once, saw her and came back with his mind made up.

[just42day97]

I think that I take the rudenesss and ugliness of a few posters too seriously but I'm learning about internet posting games. Notice the 2 posters that belittled and ridiculed gagirl the worst disappeared once she was gone and the fun was over.

For some reason, I first started here thinking people behaved online the same as in real life. Now I know that's not true. There's a whole science of internet anonymonity and it ain't pretty.

I hope more locals will come on and post, whether they know anything "inside" or not. It's good to get the local flavor. Like just42 and seemsodd have told us, as well as a handful of others, it's a scary thing not to know if a killer is out there. Also, I have a much better idea of the location and the potential for the perp to have virtually disappeared in just a few minutes.

My heart just breaks for Kristi's family. IF she is voluntarily missing, that's almost unbelievable cruelty. I'm leaning away from that theory as time goes by. It's just hard to envision how a man could have taken her without premeditation (didn't know she'd be there). It really took some determination. How in the world did he subdue her to drive? Maybe put her in trunk? If he had a gun or knife, there probably wouldn't have been an initial struggle. I can't help but wonder if he drove by once, saw her and came back with his mind made up.

Great thoughts Doc J...
My heart also breaks for the family...I can't even begin to think what they must be going thru.
You talked about an initial struggle..One of the first things you learn in a self defense class is to not ever get in the car with anyone without putting up a fight. The chances of being killed are far greater once they get you in the car. Krisit not only took these classes but also taught them from what is being reported. But I do know also that when faced with something so fast and I am sure she was so very fearful if in fact that did happen, she may have lost it and forgot everything she ever knew about self defense..Also Kristi wasn't a small Woman..Not saying she was huge, but she would have been harder to handle than lets say a 5 foot tall 110 pound woman. That would have also made it harder on the perp.
My thoughts are, if she was taken and didn't leave on her own. I think it was someone either local or someone she knew. By being local, a local would have known not many cars drive on that road, and also knows the back roads better than a stranger. I've also heard from some locals that not many strangers would be traveling that road.
I remember looking at google maps and to get to where the phone was found from where Kristi was taken there are many turns to take to get there. Not so sure a stranger would have known to go there...
Just some rambling thoughts tonight...lol

[doctor_J]

I wanted to respond sooner just42 but I just changed ISPs and I'm having big connection problems.

You're thinking along the same lines I am. Every woman has been told to Make a Last Stand BEFORE you get into a car. Never let anyone take you to a secondary crime scene or you won't survive. Kristi would know this. Besides that, why would she let a stranger get close enough to grab her? Why wouldn't she run? Maybe she did and DD heard that. I think it was someone she knew or at least have met and therefore she let them approach her before she realized evil intent. I think there would have been a violent struggle. Life of death. Torn clothes, Skinned knees and heels (she had on shorts and lost a flip flop. I think there would be skin and blood from the struggle, maybe torn nails and buttons. If not, if there was just a flip flop, I think that LE would lean toward a staged scene. Of course they can't be sure. He could have had a gun. Many people will cooperate when panic hits just to buy time.

I just try to put myself in the head of the abductor. He's out cruising and can't believe his luck. He's an angry guy and maybe drunk/drugged. Maybe had a big fight with his girl and left in a huff. He either slows down while deciding what to do and how to do it, or he drives by her.... makes up his mind and comes back. Maybe that's when she commented to DD about the car, because she knew it had come by once already or it was driving behind her and wouldn't pass. Still, she would not want to think he was going to "take her". That's still a strange thing to say. Once I realized evil intent, I would think rape, assault,,,,,,,, not kidnap.

I agree, Kristi was not a small woman. We've seen her in pics that vary by nearly 100 lbs too so I don't know her size at the time but she would be a problem for anything but a very large man. She was apparently in good health and young. A formidable target. It just sounds so staged, very much like Jennifer Wilbanks. But I can't believe a woman would let her parents, son and brother suffer so long, even if mentally ill or foolish enough to pull such a stunt.

I think she's either hiding out somewhere working at Mc Donald's.... or there is a killer right there is Blairsville, maybe one of the Cornwell's neighbors, and Kristi will be found by a hunter.

[just42day97]

I wanted to respond sooner just42 but I just changed ISPs and I'm having big connection problems.


I think she's either hiding out somewhere working at Mc Donald's.... or there is a killer right there is Blairsville, maybe one of the Cornwell's neighbors, and Kristi will be found by a hunter.

snipped with respect for space

great post Doc J
Yes for most of us it's hard to even think that someone would walk away and leave family not knowing anything...leave family thinking the worst...But we know it happens. I refer to Mary Beth Smith often here. She is just one that comes to mind as well as Jennifer Wilbanks..the thing with Jennifer was she did show up in about a week. Beth Smith it took 4 months and that wasn't until after she was found by an LE officer that would not let go of her case...I still have a feeling Krisit may be out there somewhere...I hope she is..but if she is I feel like she has some mental health issues considering her past marriages and if she did this, then something is going on there..If not, then I feel like it's a local..someone walking around...
As far as what we were talking about with never allow a stranger to pull you into a car...we never know how we will react when someone is in a panic...just never know..I had a friend one time that was a nurse..we had another friend who had fallen out on the ground due to her suger had dropped. I was asking people to hand me some suger, and the nurse was running around crazy..she should have been the one in charge. But she just lost it. She was in panic mode...so who knows how we would really react in any given situation until it happens?

[doctor_J]

Doctor J, I have to respectfully disagree regarding gagirl. There may have been a couple of people who were not on their best behavior, but the majority were. At the time, we had a poster that was stirring the pot, claiming slander by IS members, telling the daughter to get a lawyer, blah blah blah. (Fortunately, Samantha is no longer allowed to be here.) I think the situation just escalated, and looked like people were abusing her.

I appreciate gagirl being here, but she really shouldn't have put herself in that position. The story was too new, there were too many questions, and at that time there were some things that were not adding up. If you come here, you will be asked questions. If you can't take the questions it may be best not to insert yourself into this situation. Because of that evening, we have Samantha on other boards telling everyone that IS members should be sued for slander. IP's should be gathered, lawyers should be sought etc. Absolute rubbish.

I'm in absolute agreement regarding the statement by Speak Out, and our enjoying the tragedy of others. That was a horrible thing to say, and a complete insult to ALL members of ALL true crime boards/forums.

I don't know what we could disagree on Mitzi, lol. I agree with every word you said here. I thought things got out of hand when it went from everyone asking questions to a couple of posters attacking her personally, calling her out, and claiming if she did not answer by their deadline, then they would assume the answer was (whatever they believed).

I thought of her as a young girl who was just defending her Daddy. In the processof doing that, she told us a few things we haven't heard from LE. It's anyone's choice to believe her. I believe thst's what DD told her,,, and that was interesting.

My problem is that I get my feelings hurt if someone is deliberately mean to me on line and I get my feelings hurt FOR OTHERS when posters are mean to them on line. It's kind of silly, and I'm getting used to ignoring such things. Maybe just too sensitive for MBs, lol. :laugh:

[doctor_J]

I was thinking that Mary was only found because she requested her teaching certificate. Also, her family seemed to know she had run off. They had nothing to say to reporters, especially her husband. Kristi's family seem convinced she was abducted but IDK. The brother's giving statements to the local press and reportedly left his job to search for her. They are actively seeking funds for the search.

[RainyNiteNTx]

I have never claimed to be affiliated with this case. My motivation to speak out is to re-direct gossip and people who want daily press releases purely to satisfy their curiousity and rant against LE when they don't provide their daily fix. It's pretty obvious that this board is open for people who make a hobby out of the tragedies of others and not for people who understand this is real life and not a crime mystery novel. Anyone who has real information is quickly made unwelcome, so I won't bother to contribute further.

One of your first posts (possibly THE first) on this forum you stated you had just gotten off the phone with the lead investigator.

Did you call the lead investigator or did they call you?

Should we all call the lead investigator to find out information?

In regard to your statement about this being a hobby out of the tragedies of others.....
There are people on these forums who contribute money to reward funds
There are people here who are on volunteer lists
There are people who take their personal time to physically search
There are people who write letters to talk shows to try and get attention refocused on the case
There are people who provide assistance with the way of food and support for the searchers

IMO Your post is out of line.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Doctor J, I have to respectfully disagree regarding gagirl. There may have been a couple of people who were not on their best behavior, but the majority were. At the time, we had a poster that was stirring the pot, claiming slander by IS members, telling the daughter to get a lawyer, blah blah blah. (Fortunately, Samantha is no longer allowed to be here.) I think the situation just escalated, and looked like people were abusing her.

I appreciate gagirl being here, but she really shouldn't have put herself in that position. The story was too new, there were too many questions, and at that time there were some things that were not adding up. If you come here, you will be asked questions. If you can't take the questions it may be best not to insert yourself into this situation. Because of that evening, we have Samantha on other boards telling everyone that IS members should be sued for slander. IP's should be gathered, lawyers should be sought etc. Absolute rubbish.

I'm in absolute agreement regarding the statement by Speak Out, and our enjoying the tragedy of others. That was a horrible thing to say, and a complete insult to ALL members of ALL true crime boards/forums.

Mitzi, I agree with your post. It has been stated over and over and over again that no one ran gagirl off. Many posters embraced her and spent time with her on PMs talking to her and comforting her. The problem was that once she said something, she did not want it questioned any further, even when it was later proven to be incorrect. This is a tired discussion about gagirl IMO. However, some will continue to believe what they want to believe.

[doradoll]

Mitzi, I agree with your post. It has been stated over and over and over again that no one ran gagirl off. Many posters embraced her and spent time with her on PMs talking to her and comforting her. The problem was that once she said something, she did not want it questioned any further, even when it was later proven to be incorrect. This is a tired discussion about gagirl IMO. However, some will continue to believe what they want to believe.

One only needs to look at the 8/26 thread to see that gagirl was not simply just being "questioned" regarding something she said; and it wasn't just Hale2 and Fate that were doing it and/or not trying to stop it.

I have followed many threads here over the years (my old nic was gone somehow while I took a break from posting) and this case had been the most unwelcoming IMO to anyone that doesn't agree with the few frequent posters.

Sadly, IMO, with the heavily wooded areas surrounding her probable abduction site, we may never know the truth.

[RainyNiteNTx]

One only needs to look at the 8/26 thread to see that gagirl was not simply just being "questioned" regarding something she said; and it wasn't just Hale2 and Fate that were doing it and/or not trying to stop it.

I have followed many threads here over the years (my old nic was gone somehow while I took a break from posting) and this case had been the most unwelcoming IMO to anyone that doesn't agree with the few frequent posters.

Sadly, IMO, with the heavily wooded areas surrounding her probable abduction site, we may never know the truth.

Sometimes the truth comes out months later if someone is found under a new identity, or sometimes it comes out years later with bone fragments found. I think the worst is not knowing, but then again, as long as there is no answer, there is hope. It is a horrible situation when someone just vanishes into thin air just by doing nothing more than living their life.

I always have a hard time when I see videos of someone and they have no idea it is their final moments to live....Carlie Brucia, Kelsey Smith, Annie Le...we just never know what we might be doing on any ordinary day and some whacko is out there just waiting.

[doradoll]

Sometimes the truth comes out months later if someone is found under a new identity, or sometimes it comes out years later with bone fragments found. I think the worst is not knowing, but then again, as long as there is no answer, there is hope. It is a horrible situation when someone just vanishes into thin air just by doing nothing more than living their life.

I always have a hard time when I see videos of someone and they have no idea it is their final moments to live....Carlie Brucia, Kelsey Smith, Annie Le...we just never know what we might be doing on any ordinary day and some whacko is out there just waiting.

yes, absolutely, where are we safe?

we had a case here of a middle school girl just walking to school along a major hi-way.....these 2 guys just pulled up quickly in broad daylight with hundreds of potential witnesses and grabbed her and threw her into the car; they let her go later after keeping her in an abandoned house for the day

fortunately, she was able to describe something unique enough about the house that they were discovered

small town, big city, day or night, it is happening

hoping for word on Kristi

the recent descriptions of the miles of untraveled logging roads has me concerned

[RainyNiteNTx]

yes, absolutely, where are we safe?

we had a case here of a middle school girl just walking to school along a major hi-way.....these 2 guys just pulled up quickly in broad daylight with hundreds of potential witnesses and grabbed her and threw her into the car; they let her go later after keeping her in an abandoned house for the day

fortunately, she was able to describe something unique enough about the house that they were discovered

small town, big city, day or night, it is happening

hoping for word on Kristi

the recent descriptions of the miles of untraveled logging roads has me concerned

It has me concerned also. What scares me is that so many people are missing - some for years, and their cases go cold. Another missing person case comes along and these threads fall back to page 4 or 5...I wish there was something to keep interest in this case.

That is awful about that young girl....criminals are getting more brazen IMO

[ClimbingRose]

One only needs to look at the 8/26 thread to see that gagirl was not simply just being "questioned" regarding something she said; and it wasn't just Hale2 and Fate that were doing it and/or not trying to stop it.

I have followed many threads here over the years (my old nic was gone somehow while I took a break from posting) and this case had been the most unwelcoming IMO to anyone that doesn't agree with the few frequent posters.

Sadly, IMO, with the heavily wooded areas surrounding her probable abduction site, we may never know the truth.



We were questioning in a sincere manner until she started getting ugly and defensive. When we attempted clarification for discrepancies in what DD was saying vs what she was sharing, she became very hostile and refused to help us sort thru everything. So rather than staying calm and sincere and help us she said some ugly things and ran.

[Ms Daisy]

I said that in another post...only if it was organized by LE or a search team....

Oh, Ok. Then we're in agreement but give you credit for having said it first......(not that things don't get repeated on here, huh?) :wink:

[ClimbingRose]

OK Guys, here's something out of many involved with this case that I can't figure out.

Kristi taught self protection classes. She allegedly told DD a car was coming toward her. So, with her training and background why would she have allowed them to decrease their physical distance from her? And, why didn't she run? Having taught the type of training she had along with the closeness of houses and familiarity of the area, she could have quickly jumped out of her flip flops, start running, yelling, screaming and possibly even call 911 herself. I know that's what I would do or if they did get too close would have aimed for the gonads and made it count.

So, why?

Oh one more thing does anyone still have a link to the survival tips or suggestions. It was very informative, something I would like to share with some friends.

[RainyNiteNTx]

OK Guys, here's something out of many involved with this case that I can't figure out.

Kristi taught self protection classes. She allegedly told DD a car was coming toward her. So, with her training and background why would she have allowed them to decrease their physical distance from her? And, why didn't she run? Having taught the type of training she had along with the closeness of houses and familiarity of the area, she could have quickly jumped out of her flip flops, start running, yelling, screaming and possibly even call 911 herself. I know that's what I would do or if they did get too close would have aimed for the gonads and made it count.

So, why?

Oh one more thing does anyone still have a link to the survival tips or suggestions. It was very informative, something I would like to share with some friends.

You make very good points regarding her self defense training. Another thing is I would think her gut instinct would be much keener than anyone who had not worked in the field she had worked in. JMO

[Ms Daisy]

You make very good points regarding her self defense training. Another thing is I would think her gut instinct would be much keener than anyone who had not worked in the field she had worked in. JMO

Exactly. That's mostly the reason that I have my doubts that her disappearance happened as advertised.

Of the female LE that I've been acquainted with, these women aren't only tough but REAL tough and very sharp. They know when a threat is present and know that they'd better react defensively in a split second or never get a second chance.

I believe it was Kristi's brother that said they were encouraged in knowing that she is tough and has the 'tools' to defend herself. All they have to do is find her and bring her home...paraphrasing.

Frankly, it sounds to me like they are trying to keep their spirits up any way they can.....and I don't disagree with whatever it takes to keep them going but I don't believe any of it happened as they've reported it and I no longer believe (IMO) that Kristi is still living.

I agree with whomever posted it first that she will eventually be found in those woods by hunters or hikers. Sadly to say.

[Mr FATE]

Good morning all... I'm still here and didn't hit and run gagirl85, get my jollies and run off, and it's pretty ridiculous to even say that. And just to add, there is nothing really to say here currently. We discussed just about every aspect of the case with the facts known to date.

doctor_J - It's kind of hypocritical to say I CALLED out gagirl85 and then you did exactly the same thing to me. << juss shrugs shoulders >> But no worries, I have a thick skin.

Doradoll - the same applies to you. here's the deal. You view gagirl85's post in one light and I view them in another. She had an agenda. There is a difference between defending and telling half-truths, mis-truths, and outright lies. when she saw caught, (and I saw it too and didn't call out her lies - others did, you know there are others people here who can read as well as I and don't have reading comprehension problems)...she started spinning one whopper after another. If you feel that's helpful to finding Kristi, we will just have to agree to disagree.

Later, she and Samantha went board to board with their agenda. So I question why it was so important to spread this message - it's natural to wonder why someone would put that much effort info THAT agenda.

Now, I have been around these boards long enough to know that an agenda is to DEFLECT, not help. Lies from a family member do not help... I think we all know that. I have posted with family members, townies, and probably the perps themselves... Sorry, but an agenda never led to the recovery of a missing person.

HALE 2d GNAW saw many of the same things that I did, but Hale can speak for her / himself.

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I still don't know what happened to Kristi and hope she is alive somewhere...

prayers for Kristi and the Cornwell family.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Exactly. That's mostly the reason that I have my doubts that her disappearance happened as advertised.

Of the female LE that I've been acquainted with, these women aren't only tough but REAL tough and very sharp. They know when a threat is present and know that they'd better react defensively in a split second or never get a second chance.

I believe it was Kristi's brother that said they were encouraged in knowing that she is tough and has the 'tools' to defend herself. All they have to do is find her and bring her home...paraphrasing.

Frankly, it sounds to me like they are trying to keep their spirits up any way they can.....and I don't disagree with whatever it takes to keep them going but I don't believe any of it happened as they've reported it and I no longer believe (IMO) that Kristi is still living.

I agree with whomever posted it first that she will eventually be found in those woods by hunters or hikers. Sadly to say.

Do you have a personal theory as to what happened or just a feeling it didn't happen as has been presented?

[Ms Daisy]

Do you have a personal theory as to what happened or just a feeling it didn't happen as has been presented?

Good question, Rainy. LOL....like everything about this case, there are more questions than answers.....but I'm working on it. I'll post it as soon as my theory develops that makes any sense.

The only positive thing I know is; Kristi's gone and I don't believe Davis' story....completely. Some of it might be true...like talking to her on her cell (because that's confirmed, apparently) but what was said between them and his description of their relationship, IMO, is just a bunch of whooey. He's found an avenue for promoting himself and advertising his singing engagements, but also found it just a tad too hot to keep talking to the media. That's why he's stopped, IMO.

[C.Hound]

Good question, Rainy. LOL....like everything about this case, there are more questions than answers.....but I'm working on it. I'll post it as soon as my theory develops that makes any sense.

The only positive thing I know is; Kristi's gone and I don't believe Davis' story....completely. Some of it might be true...like talking to her on her cell (because that's confirmed, apparently) but what was said between them and his description of their relationship, IMO, is just a bunch of whooey. He's found an avenue for promoting himself and advertising his singing engagements, but also found it just a tad too hot to keep talking to the media. That's why he's stopped, IMO.

Or he may have been counseled to stop talking by an attorney, if one has been hired, after people started questioning his inconsistent stories.

[Ms Daisy]

Exactly. That's mostly the reason that I have my doubts that her disappearance happened as advertised.

Of the female LE that I've been acquainted with, these women aren't only tough but REAL tough and very sharp. They know when a threat is present and know that they'd better react defensively in a split second or never get a second chance.

I believe it was Kristi's brother that said they were encouraged in knowing that she is tough and has the 'tools' to defend herself. All they have to do is find her and bring her home...paraphrasing.

Frankly, it sounds to me like they are trying to keep their spirits up any way they can.....and I don't disagree with whatever it takes to keep them going but I don't believe any of it happened as they've reported it and I no longer believe (IMO) that Kristi is still living.

I agree with whomever posted it first that she will eventually be found in those woods by hunters or hikers. Sadly to say.

Meanwhile.......here goes. This will probably set off a lot of people like the 4th of July...but it's a credible theory.

Bolded from above..."Of the female LE that I've been acquainted with, these women aren't only tough but REAL tough and very sharp". Kristi may have only acquired one of these attributes in her law enforcement tenure....that one of being 'tough' but not all that 'sharp'.

She was obviously a strong healthy woman that enjoyed a masculine sport (motorcycles...Before anyone jumps off the rails I'm aware that some women do too) and a physically, masculine, demanding occupation such as law enforcement. In her last job as parole officer, she would have had to be capable of subduing or even recovering a parolee and return him/her to jail.

She's had 3 unsuccessful marriages of which one produced one child who did not reside with her but with his father.

There is nothing in the information made available to us that would indicate the feminine side of Kristi Cornwell. There may have been one.

What I'm getting at is the possibility of a hate crime having been committed against her....in case you weren't following me.

What DD 'said' he heard (if it happened at all) could have been 'please don't tase me' rather than "please don't take me" in which case, another woman....albeit the size or larger than KC.. would certainly be able to overtake, restrain and subdue her in an abduction.

Another possibility is that a man/men could have tased and abducted her while simply hating her for being gay. (Not saying she was. This is simply a theory) It's happened many times before and wouldn't be surprising if it happened again here in the Bible belt of the South. Especially in the rural South.

In any case, she's gone and probably dead and probably died within 24 hrs.

However, if she 'disappeared' herself deliberately, then praise the Lord and pass the biscuits ! She'd probably be ostracized in the community and never be able to return anyway.

Anyway....this is probably an idea you haven't heard before.

[just42day97]

One only needs to look at the 8/26 thread to see that gagirl was not simply just being "questioned" regarding something she said; and it wasn't just Hale2 and Fate that were doing it and/or not trying to stop it.

I have followed many threads here over the years (my old nic was gone somehow while I took a break from posting) and this case had been the most unwelcoming IMO to anyone that doesn't agree with the few frequent posters.

Sadly, IMO, with the heavily wooded areas surrounding her probable abduction site, we may never know the truth.

I repectfully disagree..I've also been around for years...had an old nick like you I guess...I've seen ppl being treated horible on threads here. No one has ever been treated like this here...I've seen no telling how many ppl banned from this board due to treating ppl badly here. There has been none of that here. Just because we disagree with someone does not mean we are mean to that person. The closest anyone has come to being treated bad here was Sam. And she/he brought all of that on herself, and you see who got banned? She did..Because we asked questions of ppl when they come here and posted statements does not mean they are being treated badly..AT ALL!

[Ms Daisy]

Meanwhile.......here goes. This will probably set off a lot of people like the 4th of July...but it's a credible theory.

Bolded from above..."Of the female LE that I've been acquainted with, these women aren't only tough but REAL tough and very sharp". Kristi may have only acquired one of these attributes in her law enforcement tenure....that one of being 'tough' but not all that 'sharp'.

She was obviously a strong healthy woman that enjoyed a masculine sport (motorcycles...Before anyone jumps off the rails I'm aware that some women do too) and a physically, masculine, demanding occupation such as law enforcement. In her last job as parole officer, she would have had to be capable of subduing or even recovering a parolee and return him/her to jail.

She's had 3 unsuccessful marriages of which one produced one child who did not reside with her but with his father.

There is nothing in the information made available to us that would indicate the feminine side of Kristi Cornwell. There may have been one.

What I'm getting at is the possibility of a hate crime having been committed against her....in case you weren't following me.

What DD 'said' he heard (if it happened at all) could have been 'please don't tase me' rather than "please don't take me" in which case, another woman....albeit the size or larger than KC.. would certainly be able to overtake, restrain and subdue her in an abduction.

Another possibility is that a man/men could have tased and abducted her while simply hating her for being gay. (Not saying she was. This is simply a theory) It's happened many times before and wouldn't be surprising if it happened again here in the Bible belt of the South. Especially in the rural South.

In any case, she's gone and probably dead and probably died within 24 hrs.

However, if she 'disappeared' herself deliberately, then praise the Lord and pass the biscuits ! She'd probably be ostracized in the community and never be able to return anyway.

Anyway....this is probably an idea you haven't heard before.

While I'm on this particular theory/line of thought......Having been a parole officer with LE training etc. I feel certain that Kristi would have kept a hand gun with a license to carry. With that training and self defense training, awareness training etc...it doesn't make sense to me that she would have allowed herself to be on a rural and isolated country road after dark without being armed. She's seen the dregs of society, taken them into custody and supervised them. She just wouldn't have done it, IMO.

If any of this is true...where is her hand gun?

Or, maybe that's where the lack of 'sharp' comes in? Nope. I don't believe it.

[dreamtime]

yes, absolutely, where are we safe?

we had a case here of a middle school girl just walking to school along a major hi-way.....these 2 guys just pulled up quickly in broad daylight with hundreds of potential witnesses and grabbed her and threw her into the car; they let her go later after keeping her in an abandoned house for the day

fortunately, she was able to describe something unique enough about the house that they were discovered

small town, big city, day or night, it is happening

hoping for word on Kristi

the recent descriptions of the miles of untraveled logging roads has me concerned
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ot: we had a case here of two 11 yr old girls, walking to play tennis, in a small town, two days after christmas and a man grabbed them off the street. no happy ending.
it happens.
anywhere. everywhere.

[C.Hound]

Do parole officers have the authority to take people into custody? I was under the impression they report parolee violations to a judge who decides the person's fate, but I could be wrong.

Also, it seems to be the common thought that Kristi worked with the worst offenders, but maybe she didn't. She could have been assigned to individuals caught with drugs, shoplifters, etc. It has also been reported that she was a drug counselor, so she may not have even been a parole officer for very long before switching positions. Does anyone know how long she worked as a parole officer?

[just42day97]

Do parole officers have the authority to take people into custody? I was under the impression they report parolee violations to a judge who decides the person's fate, but I could be wrong.

Also, it seems to be the common thought that Kristi worked with the worst offenders, but maybe she didn't. She could have been assigned to individuals caught with drugs, shoplifters, etc. It has also been reported that she was a drug counselor, so she may not have even been a parole officer for very long before switching positions. Does anyone know how long she worked as a parole officer?

not sure about GA. But in MS. and AL YES they can arrest ppl. I've seen a 100 pound woman throw a 250 pound man up against the wall and slap handcuffs on him and take him away...She was a fisty P.O.!

[Curious]

You make very good points regarding her self defense training. Another thing is I would think her gut instinct would be much keener than anyone who had not worked in the field she had worked in. JMO

ITA Rainy ... If a car were approaching her, darkness was falling and she was alone on a deserted road; I would think she would have been going uh-oh, who is this, what do they want, she would have been on guard at this point? And definitely once she realized she was in danger she would have the presence of mind to shout something which could help identify the perps. In my mind Kristi was a tough cookie, her motorcycle friend stated she was very independent, her brother says she, of all people was the best equipped to handle this type of situation. We are not talking about the average woman here, she had years of training and hands-on experience in working with criminals. As a Probation Officer, I know she probably read hundreds of case files on those she supervised over the years. Therefore she would have a special knowledge of the intimate details of crimes, to include kidnappings which led to murder. All of this just boggles my mind. What would make Kristi totally lose all of her honed instincts, ability to take action/defend herself? Who was this person(s) that had that type of effect on her. Would she really lose all of her instincts in a matter of seconds, was she just relaxed and off-guard and gave someone that advantage?

[RainyNiteNTx]

ITA Rainy ... If a car were approaching her, darkness was falling and she was alone on a deserted road; I would think she would have been going uh-oh, who is this, what do they want, she would have been on guard at this point? And definitely once she realized she was in danger she would have the presence of mind to shout something which could help identify the perps. In my mind Kristi was a tough cookie, her motorcycle friend stated she was very independent, her brother says she, of all people was the best equipped to handle this type of situation. We are not talking about the average woman here, she had years of training and hands-on experience in working with criminals. As a Probation Officer, I know she probably read hundreds of case files on those she supervised over the years. Therefore she would have a special knowledge of the intimate details of crimes, to include kidnappings which led to murder. All of this just boggles my mind. What would make Kristi totally lose all of her honed instincts, ability to take action/defend herself? Who was this person(s) that had that type of effect on her. Would she really lose all of her instincts in a matter of seconds, was she just relaxed and off-guard and gave someone that advantage?

BBM
No I don't think so at all...which makes me wonder if it was someone she knew who stopped.

[abbygator]

There really isn't any detail yet other than just that -- a woman's body was found in southeast Atlanta. It isn't near Blairsville, but it is in the same state. I'll keep my eyes open for an update.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/womans-body-found-in-141458.html

[ClimbingRose]

ITA Rainy ... If a car were approaching her, darkness was falling and she was alone on a deserted road; I would think she would have been going uh-oh, who is this, what do they want, she would have been on guard at this point? And definitely once she realized she was in danger she would have the presence of mind to shout something which could help identify the perps. In my mind Kristi was a tough cookie, her motorcycle friend stated she was very independent, her brother says she, of all people was the best equipped to handle this type of situation. We are not talking about the average woman here, she had years of training and hands-on experience in working with criminals. As a Probation Officer, I know she probably read hundreds of case files on those she supervised over the years. Therefore she would have a special knowledge of the intimate details of crimes, to include kidnappings which led to murder. All of this just boggles my mind. What would make Kristi totally lose all of her honed instincts, ability to take action/defend herself? Who was this person(s) that had that type of effect on her. Would she really lose all of her instincts in a matter of seconds, was she just relaxed and off-guard and gave someone that advantage?



More very good points. I still can not get over why she didn't kick into defensive mode, running, screaming, keeping distance b/w her and the perps. Why, if the car is coming toward her she tells DD she had to step off the side of the road? All those wonderful qualities her brother describes didn't take place. Why? Who would she have been careless enough with to drop her defensives? Something else just hit me. There is no family announcements being made either by web site or media. Why? Not only is her family not talking but none of her friends are coming forward to share stories about Kristi. From lurking around I haven't seen any friends talking.

What is so horrible wrong or dangerous to at least keep Kristi's name in the media? Once or if this case is ever solved I really hope someone takes a very good look at how this case has been handled.

JMO
ClimbingRose

[just42day97]

There really isn't any detail yet other than just that -- a woman's body was found in southeast Atlanta. It isn't near Blairsville, but it is in the same state. I'll keep my eyes open for an update.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/womans-body-found-in-141458.html

Yes please do keep up updated if you find out anything

[Curious]

not sure about GA. But in MS. and AL YES they can arrest ppl. I've seen a 100 pound woman throw a 250 pound man up against the wall and slap handcuffs on him and take him away...She was a fisty P.O.!

I liked that story just42, feisty indeed!

Here in Cali same thing, PO's can arrest Probationers on the spot if terms and conditions of parole are violated.

Pardon the OT; Matter of fact, several years ago a very savvy local PO thought he recognized some of the criminal aspects involved in the cases of two missing college students. He cold-called on the parolee (Rex Allen Krebs) at his home and became suspicious of his behavior and answers to his questions. He found (recalling from memory) a BB gun or something equally benign in the parolee's home and revoked his parole on the spot. Once they got him in jail it was only a short time until he confessed to the murders. Major Kudos to that PO, very likely that he saved another young girl(s) life.

[C.Hound]

not sure about GA. But in MS. and AL YES they can arrest ppl. I've seen a 100 pound woman throw a 250 pound man up against the wall and slap handcuffs on him and take him away...She was a fisty P.O.!

Thanks for letting me know about other states. I decided to see what I could find about Georgia and came across the following at
http://www.pap.state.ga.us/opencms/opencms/

Parole Officers prepare investigations on inmates being considered for parole and supervise those who are released on parole. To perform the complex duties of the position, Parole Officers must have excellent verbal and written communication skills. They also must attain computer proficiency to work effectively in the Georgia Parole Board’s computerized parolee case-management system.

Parole Officers' duties include:

Interviewing prison inmates, their family members, former employers, and other
community references to prepare background investigations which will be used by the Board when making release decisions;

Synthesizing current and past criminal information on inmates from police and
judicial sources into comprehensive legal reports which assist Board Members with parole decisions;

Guiding the parolee's adherence to parole conditions;

Working effectively with other state agencies and community resources to build intervention programs which facilitate the parolee's success in society;

Arresting parole violators and transporting them to and from parole hearings.

[C.Hound]

More very good points. I still can not get over why she didn't kick into defensive mode, running, screaming, keeping distance b/w her and the perps. Why, if the car is coming toward her she tells DD she had to step off the side of the road? All those wonderful qualities her brother describes didn't take place. Why? Who would she have been careless enough with to drop her defensives? Something else just hit me. There is no family announcements being made either by web site or media. Why? Not only is her family not talking but none of her friends are coming forward to share stories about Kristi. From lurking around I haven't seen any friends talking.

What is so horrible wrong or dangerous to at least keep Kristi's name in the media? Once or if this case is ever solved I really hope someone takes a very good look at how this case has been handled.

JMO
ClimbingRose

I agree that her defensive training should have kicked in unless she knew the person or was overtaken by something like a taser.

Regarding the car and her conversation about it with DD, I don't know why she would have told DD the car was coming and needed to step off the road unless she felt uncomfortable and shared her feelings with DD. I think he either embellished his story with those words or else Kristi admitted to him that she was scared.

I'd forgotten her friends haven't said much other than in the beginning when one mentioned in a newspaper article that Kristi had never mentioned DD and the supposed best friend who appeared in an interview where DD was in NY and she was in Blairsville. My hinky meter went off with her. I got the feeling she was making more of her friendship with Kristi than existed. I don't remember what made me think that way.

[JanJan]

This case has more twists and turns than a Mary Higgins Clark novel.

And, we still don't have any real clues as to what has happened to Kristi.

Sorry, but I think the gay theory is akin to aliens taking her. I respect your theory, but I haven't seen anything to indicate this.

Too bad that LE/family is not willing to share any clues with us. Of course, if them keeping quiet will help get her back, it is absolutely right of them to keep quiet.

On the other hand, I'm thinking that they know what has happened, and are just waiting to confirm.

This entire post is just my opinion.

[KatieLady]

This case has more twists and turns than a Mary Higgins Clark novel.

And, we still don't have any real clues as to what has happened to Kristi.

Sorry, but I think the gay theory is akin to aliens taking her. I respect your theory, but I haven't seen anything to indicate this.

Too bad that LE/family is not willing to share any clues with us. Of course, if them keeping quiet will help get her back, it is absolutely right of them to keep quiet.

On the other hand, I'm thinking that they know what has happened, and are just waiting to confirm.

This entire post is just my opinion.

Except for Kristi being on the phone when this all happened...this reminds me a bit of the Nicholas Francisco case. Family and friends go quiet....

Do they know what happened and that is why???

[Ms Daisy]

There really isn't any detail yet other than just that -- a woman's body was found in southeast Atlanta. It isn't near Blairsville, but it is in the same state. I'll keep my eyes open for an update.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/womans-body-found-in-141458.html

Right. Welcome to Atlanta, abbygator. There's a robbery, murder or body found everyday of the week. Just pick one.

[ClimbingRose]

I understand that to protect the victim and not make the perp aware LE is on to them certain comments, words and descriptions should be withheld. But,(anger growing) does LE and family truly think that being absolutely silent, not a peep, not a facial expression, not a statement, no comments of anything about Kristi is going to find her in any shape or form?

Does anyone recall any information as to how close Kristi was with her family? Since the parents seem like true southern bible belt persons what were their thoughts of Kristi's many marriages, whose son lives with the father and Kristi's prolonged career changes? Something with the college registration doesn't sound authentic either. Perhaps Kristi was visiting her parents for a purpose such as figuring out where she was going in life or maybe they didn't communicate well with each other.

As I mentioned earlier, once this is concluded I sincerely hope experts take a good hard look at how this case was handled since the first phone call was mad including the local LE all the way up to the director of GBI who gave a speech at an inappropriate meeting.

JHO
ClimbingRose

[JanJan]

I understand that to protect the victim and not make the perp aware LE is on to them certain comments, words and descriptions should be withheld. But,(anger growing) does LE and family truly think that being absolutely silent, not a peep, not a facial expression, not a statement, no comments of anything about Kristi is going to find her in any shape or form?

Does anyone recall any information as to how close Kristi was with her family? Since the parents seem like true southern bible belt persons what were their thoughts of Kristi's many marriages, whose son lives with the father and Kristi's prolonged career changes? Something with the college registration doesn't sound authentic either. Perhaps Kristi was visiting her parents for a purpose such as figuring out where she was going in life or maybe they didn't communicate well with each other.

As I mentioned earlier, once this is concluded I sincerely hope experts take a good hard look at how this case was handled since the first phone call was mad including the local LE all the way up to the director of GBI who gave a speech at an inappropriate meeting.

JHO
ClimbingRose


Like you, I don't see where the silence can be helpful - unless they already know the result. I just noticed in the Blairsville newspaper, unless someone has taken out an ad, there has been no mention of Kristi since 9/9. It would seem to me that LE would want her photo and info everywhere - again, UNLESS they know the results!

Thoughts are my opinions.

[abbygator]

Right. Welcome to Atlanta, abbygator. There's a robbery, murder or body found everyday of the week. Just pick one.

Wow. Okay, sorry!

[RainyNiteNTx]

Wow. Okay, sorry!


Abby - I am hoping you will keep us updated. I for one, appreciate it.

[Ice Cycle]

There really isn't any detail yet other than just that -- a woman's body was found in southeast Atlanta. It isn't near Blairsville, but it is in the same state. I'll keep my eyes open for an update.

http://www.ajc.com/news/atlanta/womans-body-found-in-141458.html

Thanks for the news, you never know as I doubt she is still in Blairsville anyway.

[just42day97]

Abby - I am hoping you will keep us updated. I for one, appreciate it.

Me too! Thanks for posting what you did!! Keep posting!

[doctor_J]

Don't you all notice a common thread in most of our "brainstorming"?

Most posters seem to think the scenario that's been presented in the press in just to "perfect", too "pat". If you wanted people to think you were kidnapped, this is how you might set it up. You might say something scripted like "Don't take me". Then we have Kristi's personal history, including fishing for dates via the internet immediately after a short marriage and divorce (her 3rd). Her possible whirlwind long distance romance and reckless and secret plans to marry. All of which are contradictory to her Bible Belt Baptist upbringing. Her seeming preoccupation with romance and irresponsible attitude toward making a living and raising her son. I have to think that her parents supported her, maybe in addition to financial aid from the school. All these things set the stage for a woman who might think she could runaway and start over without anyone telling her what to do or guilting her for any behavior

And then there the other side of the issue. Sure, she had problems and made mistakes but who doesn't? Who of us would want to be dissected in blogs and MB's? As far as we know she had no criminal record. She seemed to have a "savior" complex......always trying to save someone with missionary trips, prison counseling, drug counseling. Certainly nothing we know indicates she could do something so cold-hearted as leaving her family in this situation. In fact, she appears to be an extremely kind-hearted woman.

So we are left to speculate. I still don't think a stranger could have gotten close enough to grab her and that indicates someone she knew. Someone who caused her to set aside her self-defense mode and training till it was too late.

It either happened just like it appeared and someone pulled off a perfect kidnapping or she had much more serious mental problems than anyone could have guessed.

Seems to me like it's time to release the details of the phone call and the 911 tapes.
It could confirm an abduction or raise suspicions even higher of a hoax. I understand they want to rule out false confessions and don't want the suspect to be alerted but I don't think they have a suspect after this long. I just have to accept that they know what they're doing. I'm certainly no LE expert.

Releasing a little info would keep the case alive at least.

[C.Hound]

Abby - I am hoping you will keep us updated. I for one, appreciate it.

Me too. Any updates or other information you'd like to post is greatly appreciated.

[seemsodd]

Meanwhile.......here goes. This will probably set off a lot of people like the 4th of July...but it's a credible theory.

Bolded from above..."Of the female LE that I've been acquainted with, these women aren't only tough but REAL tough and very sharp". Kristi may have only acquired one of these attributes in her law enforcement tenure....that one of being 'tough' but not all that 'sharp'.

She was obviously a strong healthy woman that enjoyed a masculine sport (motorcycles...Before anyone jumps off the rails I'm aware that some women do too) and a physically, masculine, demanding occupation such as law enforcement. In her last job as parole officer, she would have had to be capable of subduing or even recovering a parolee and return him/her to jail.

She's had 3 unsuccessful marriages of which one produced one child who did not reside with her but with his father.

There is nothing in the information made available to us that would indicate the feminine side of Kristi Cornwell. There may have been one.

What I'm getting at is the possibility of a hate crime having been committed against her....in case you weren't following me.

What DD 'said' he heard (if it happened at all) could have been 'please don't tase me' rather than "please don't take me" in which case, another woman....albeit the size or larger than KC.. would certainly be able to overtake, restrain and subdue her in an abduction.

Another possibility is that a man/men could have tased and abducted her while simply hating her for being gay. (Not saying she was. This is simply a theory) It's happened many times before and wouldn't be surprising if it happened again here in the Bible belt of the South. Especially in the rural South.

In any case, she's gone and probably dead and probably died within 24 hrs.

However, if she 'disappeared' herself deliberately, then praise the Lord and pass the biscuits ! She'd probably be ostracized in the community and never be able to return anyway.

Anyway....this is probably an idea you haven't heard before.


I hate to jump in here but I'm going to... Kristi was well known to like men, I mean really like men allot,, married, single just men that is the general gossip around town.

The detention center in blairsville does not house violent offenders, not to say these criminals couldn't at a later time commit violent crimes but for the time they are sent to the Colwell detention center it is for non violent crimes, most of Kristi's probationers from this prison would have been for posession of drugs or dui's their days are spent out cleaning up trash from road sides, weed eating mowing etc.. around the community with a couple of guards, unarmed guards most are out of this prison in a couple of years the hardened criminals are sent one of the other prisons in south ga.

[doctor_J]

Rainynite -- you are so right in that there are many posters who do a lot to try to help in these cases. If I'm not mistaken, you have personally trekked thru woods and fields to search. Others have donated, put up posters, helped to change laws with petitions, volunteered in many ways. A lot of this could not have been done prior to internet communication.

Then there are a few game players who do seem to get pleasure from the tragedy of others. They even have a name -- "griefers". I've seen them try their tactics here at IS but they don't last and ar usually identified for what they are. Hard to believe but they exist.

[Ms Daisy]

Wow. Okay, sorry!

No problem. You wouldn't have know that unless you are familiar with Georgia. It's the largest state, geographically, east of the Mississippi.

Murder and mayhem is part of the culture of Atlanta in particular, which for years was the largest crime center in the country. It's quickly regaining that reputation again.

I seriously doubt the body found is of Kristi Cornwell.

[RainyNiteNTx]

So we are left to speculate. I still don't think a stranger could have gotten close enough to grab her and that indicates someone she knew. Someone who caused her to set aside her self-defense mode and training till it was too late.


(respectfully snipped)

At this point with everything we know or don't know, this is my belief.

[RainyNiteNTx]

Rainynite -- you are so right in that there are many posters who do a lot to try to help in these cases. If I'm not mistaken, you have personally trekked thru woods and fields to search. Others have donated, put up posters, helped to change laws with petitions, volunteered in many ways. A lot of this could not have been done prior to internet communication.

Then there are a few game players who do seem to get pleasure from the tragedy of others. They even have a name -- "griefers". I've seen them try their tactics here at IS but they don't last and ar usually identified for what they are. Hard to believe but they exist.

I did not know there was an actual name given for people like that...wow. You mentioned a few things I had forgotten that internet sleuths have done, like petitioning to change laws. I know that when BORE (bill o'reilly) made his disgusting comment about Shawn Hornbeck, that there was a massive letter writing campaign to his sponsors. It resulted with Bill being replaced as a speaker at a missing person's conference. So yes, people on here do more than just type out theories and hang around to get their jollies on other's tragedies.

[Ms Daisy]

I hate to jump in here but I'm going to... Kristi was well known to like men, I mean really like men allot,, married, single just men that is the general gossip around town.

The detention center in blairsville does not house violent offenders, not to say these criminals couldn't at a later time commit violent crimes but for the time they are sent to the Colwell detention center it is for non violent crimes, most of Kristi's probationers from this prison would have been for posession of drugs or dui's their days are spent out cleaning up trash from road sides, weed eating mowing etc.. around the community with a couple of guards, unarmed guards most are out of this prison in a couple of years the hardened criminals are sent one of the other prisons in south ga.

Thank you for that seemsodd. I appreciate your input into exactly the type of person Kristi is/was. My brainstorming and theorizing is exactly that...trying to find the tiniest insight into her life that could possibly be a clue leading to her acquaintances, associates, pals, girl friends, guy friends....what she liked to do for recreation, etc. All those thing are important to knowing exactly who she is.

Thanks again

[Curious]

I hate to jump in here but I'm going to... Kristi was well known to like men, I mean really like men allot,, married, single just men that is the general gossip around town.

The detention center in blairsville does not house violent offenders, not to say these criminals couldn't at a later time commit violent crimes but for the time they are sent to the Colwell detention center it is for non violent crimes, most of Kristi's probationers from this prison would have been for posession of drugs or dui's their days are spent out cleaning up trash from road sides, weed eating mowing etc.. around the community with a couple of guards, unarmed guards most are out of this prison in a couple of years the hardened criminals are sent one of the other prisons in south ga.

Thanks Seemsodd!! Good to know about Colwell DC! Now we have more to discuss!

I did see another **Rumor** that stated Kristi's 3rd Ex was a player. She supposedly caught him cruising and responding to personal ads on Craigslist. Another unconfirmed statement ... Kristi's Father was said to be disapproving towards her. If that were a fact, I think we all know the potential impact that could have on a woman's relationship with men. It could mean she was seeking paternal love and approval which she would never receive. Does any of that make sense?

[RainyNiteNTx]

Thanks Seemsodd!! Good to know about Colwell DC! Now we have more to discuss!

I did see another **Rumor** that stated Kristi's 3rd Ex was a player. She supposedly caught him cruising and responding to personal ads on Craigslist. Another unconfirmed statement ... Kristi's Father was said to be disapproving towards her. If that were a fact, I think we all know the potential impact that could have on a woman's relationship with men. It could mean she was seeking paternal love and approval which she would never receive. Does any of that make sense?

Yes it does, and maybe this is why there are no more details...maybe there are things her family would rather the public not know. Understandable, but insight into her thinking could be helpful IMO.

[seemsodd]

I posted a link in the sticky links from the Dalton Observer, this is the small GA town Kristi went to medical school, they described her as a former student.

I can't tell you about Kristi's friends, hobbies but I can tell you local history.

This is a small town when the ambulance goes down a community road everyone calls their neighbor until they find out who was sick/etc.. When someone dies you bring food to their house. If your child is good in school the neighborhood knows, on the other hand if your child is not they know that too. Most of the young girls have to be home by 10 or 11 if they aren't Dad goes looking for them. If a married someone is seen with someone of the opposite sex the spouse will know, also all the communities in a 20 or 30 mile radius. If someone's child is arrested for drug use or dui again the neighborhood and the 20 or 30 mile radius knows. I'm not being critical of my neighboors, I am stating a fact anyone that is truly living in the community knows what I am saying is fact.

I was born and raised in Blairsville,my mom and dad always knew if I misbehaved before I reached home I constantly scold my older family members and their friends for all the drama.

[Curious]

I always hesitate to say certain things, one thing I would never want to do is be a victim basher. Is there a way we can discuss certain things about Kristi without doing that or denigrating her family in the process?

[seemsodd]

I always hesitate to say certain things, one thing I would never want to do is be a victim basher. Is there a way we can discuss certain things about Kristi without doing that or denigrating her family in the process?



I'm sorry Curious, I agree it's really hard to edit your comments when you live in the same area as the victim especially when the area is as small as this one you don't really know how much to say or what to answer.

I didn't mean any disrespect to Kristi I"m truly sorry !!
I'll just read.

[doctor_J]

I always hesitate to say certain things, one thing I would never want to do is be a victim basher. Is there a way we can discuss certain things about Kristi without doing that or denigrating her family in the process?

I've struggled with the same problem Curious and probably have said too much already. I was kind of testing the water to see if unflattering statements would be considered "bashing". I have no wish to do that, but I think this case requires some "victimology" inquiries. I'm fairly new to this so maybe older posters will answer. I think you have a valid point about K's dad.

Of his few seconds of comments he made a statement which seemed to place partial blame on Kristi."Beware of meeting people on line". I doubt if he approved of her relationships with men and preoccupation with them, or her multiple marriages. I'm not at all surprised she kept DD a secret.

ETA -- This is a crime board, not a condolence or family board, right??

[RainyNiteNTx]

I posted a link in the sticky links from the Dalton Observer, this is the small GA town Kristi went to medical school, they described her as a former student.

I can't tell you about Kristi's friends, hobbies but I can tell you local history.

This is a small town when the ambulance goes down a community road everyone calls their neighbor until they find out who was sick/etc.. When someone dies you bring food to their house. If your child is good in school the neighborhood knows, on the other hand if your child is not they know that too. Most of the young girls have to be home by 10 or 11 if they aren't Dad goes looking for them. If a married someone is seen with someone of the opposite sex the spouse will know, also all the communities in a 20 or 30 mile radius. If someone's child is arrested for drug use or dui again the neighborhood and the 20 or 30 mile radius knows. I'm not being critical of my neighboors, I am stating a fact anyone that is truly living in the community knows what I am saying is fact.

I was born and raised in Blairsville,my mom and dad always knew if I misbehaved before I reached home I constantly scold my older family members and their friends for all the drama.

You just described my childhood and the town I grew up in. I know exactly what you are talking about.

[Curious]

I'm sorry Curious, I agree it's really hard to edit your comments when you live in the same area as the victim especially when the area is as small as this one you don't really know how much to say or what to answer.

I didn't mean any disrespect to Kristi I"m truly sorry !!
I'll just read.

No LOL, I was talking in reference to MY posting of rumors. Nothing to do with you! Without YOU we would not know about Colwell or her need for relationships. If you haven't read lately I was kind of rude according to some in a post I wrote yesterday so I am trying to be more conservative about sharing my views :wink:

[RainyNiteNTx]

I always hesitate to say certain things, one thing I would never want to do is be a victim basher. Is there a way we can discuss certain things about Kristi without doing that or denigrating her family in the process?

Its a tough balance - one in which I have not mastered yet. I feel things should be explored, but when you possibly have family reading, I'm conscious of their feelings.

[Ms Daisy]

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[RainyNiteNTx]

I can't believe you posted that to her !!!! How about going back to read your previous post....#164 I think it is.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black !

Keep on posting Seemsodd. You don't have to apologize to anyone !

I think you misinterpreted the post.

[Curious]

I like Dr. J's word ... Victimology.

Let's look at it that way and be respectful of the words we choose to use. I would be all for a post with bulleted items of what we know about her life, relationships and work so far. Separated by what are known facts and what are unverified or otherwise rumors?

I have to go, errands and dinner, but be back later.

[doctor_J]

I'm sorry Curious, I agree it's really hard to edit your comments when you live in the same area as the victim especially when the area is as small as this one you don't really know how much to say or what to answer.

I didn't mean any disrespect to Kristi I"m truly sorry !!
I'll just read.

Call me confused. Why are you apologizing? I didn't see anything disrespectfull

What was wrong with post number 164? Curious said it was unconfirmed and rumor.

[Mr FATE]

Something just occurred to me, but perhaps it's been mentioned. I know we talked alot about Kristi's enrollment - or lack there of - I'm not sure we really know what happened here and hopefully we will know all the details sooner rather than later...

some have mentioned that it might be possible to enroll even on the date of the first class - I don't doubt that ... and some have said that enrollment would / could be conducted via websites...

but what occurred to me was - to receive financial aid, you would probably have to apply for that months in advance..

so, I have two thoughts here - please feel free to add...

first - let's assume that Kristi did receive financial aid... this aid would have probably arrived well before school started. In a sense - this is a personal loan with few restrictions, but we all know it's supposed to be applied to school funding. Most of us have commented on the fact that there is no way to know if all or a portion is used for schooling. These funds are not totally accounted for and are mainly a personal loan.

if Kristi did have financial aid, and it did arrive well before school started, it could have funded a run-a-way scenario. So, it's all just speculation and could have tipped authorities to a scenario where this is not an abduction. I have no idea what the costs associated with her school were - I just know that my daughter goes to a very expense school and the costs are about $32,ooo per year. I'm sure there are schools that are anywhere from $8,ooo a yer all the way up to $45,ooo for Harvard. Even a student loan of 8 k would / could fund a get a way.

second - if Kristi did receive financial aid and it was still sitting in her account - the police may be thinking this is an abduction and not going to have a pleasant ending...

if Kristi truly did mention the lost school enrollment forms and Mr Davis was correct and conveyed that info accurately - it's easy to assume that her aid was completed.

comments?

[seemsodd]

I know this is a crime board Doctor J.. I felt the need to tell you guys this to help solve her dissapearance, I hate saying mean things about people Lord knows I'm not close to perfect in my own life I would hate to read about myself in a negative tone even if what was being said is true I don't want to cause the family anymore pain I'm sure they have their plates full already.

[Mr FATE]

I'm sorry Curious, I agree it's really hard to edit your comments when you live in the same area as the victim especially when the area is as small as this one you don't really know how much to say or what to answer.

I didn't mean any disrespect to Kristi I"m truly sorry !!
I'll just read.


I don't either of you have said anything to "bash" Kristi or her family, and I do understand what you are saying. It's a fine line between speculation and out right slamming.

Personally, I believe the sexual orientation of the missing person if off limits unless it's stated by LE as a probable cause. And I feel that religion is a touchy subject, but not entirely off limits - it just depends on how a question or comment is formulated.

[seemsodd]

Go back to the sticky links where the news threads are for Kristi look at the one I posted from the Dalton Observer thats the town where she was going to farther her education, in describing her dissapearance they refer to her as a former student and say she went to their school the previous year nothing about being there this year.

[Curious]

Go back to the sticky links where the news threads are for Kristi look at the one I posted from the Dalton Observer thats the town where she was going to farther her education, in describing her dissapearance they refer to her as a former student and say she went to their school the previous year nothing about being there this year.

You're the bomb, seemsodd!! Can you tell us anything about her ex husbands? Were they all similar or very different types?

[Ms Daisy]

Personally, I believe the sexual orientation of the missing person if off limits unless it's stated by LE as a probable cause. And I feel that religion is a touchy subject, but not entirely off limits - it just depends on how a question or comment is formulated.

I totally disagree, Fate. Nothing is off limits in a missing persons/possible homicide investigation.

As I state in my "theory post" it was just that. Theory. But could be a possible clue into a hate crime.

Nothing on a crime forum is off limits, IMO, with the exception of bashing ones religion.

I've also stated that any clue of the most minute nature that would lend itself to finding the perpetrator (if there was one) should be discussed and/or investigated

[Mr FATE]

Go back to the sticky links where the news threads are for Kristi look at the one I posted from the Dalton Observer thats the town where she was going to farther her education, in describing her dissapearance they refer to her as a former student and say she went to their school the previous year nothing about being there this year.

"former" could take on a lot of connotations currently.

1. she's missing and it's obvious why she's not in school...

2. she was not going back - but if she was receiving financial aid - did the aid / grant funding company / bank know that? did she receive aid with no intention of going back?

3. she's taken a year off or a semster off and the school knew that...?

it's hard to know what "former" truly entails.

[Mr FATE]

I totally disagree, Fate. Nothing is off limits in a missing persons/possible homicide investigation.

As I state in my "theory post" it was just that. Theory. But could be a possible clue into a hate crime.

Nothing on a crime forum is off limits, IMO, with the exception of bashing ones religion.

I've also stated that any clue of the most minute nature that would lend itself to finding the perpetrator (if there was one) should be discussed and/or investigated

please feel free Ms Daisy to operate under your guidelines - as long as that is with-in Coldwater's directives. I won't be posting in reference to someone's sexual orientation unless the LE has said it's pertinent. Nor will I be replying to any such posts.

[Ms Daisy]

please feel free Ms Daisy to operate under your guidelines - as long as that is with-in Coldwater's directives. I won't be posting in reference to someone's sexual orientation unless the LE has said it's pertinent. Nor will I be replying to any such posts.

Fine with me, Fate. Respond as you wish.

If you're making a moral judgment that homosexuality is wrong...that's one thing. I never did any such thing.

If simply posting the word "gay" is offensive to you, then you're shoving them all back into the closet and being politically correct.

[doctor_J]

Go back to the sticky links where the news threads are for Kristi look at the one I posted from the Dalton Observer thats the town where she was going to farther her education, in describing her disappearance they refer to her as a former student and say she went to their school the previous year nothing about being there this year.

"Former" does not have a lot of different meanings in regard to academia. It means she was at one time a student at Dalton but is not presently enrolled. At the time of registration fees must be paid. Financial aid, depending on the type, may be received by the applicant days or weeks prior to registration. You can register for classes at various times after school starts but the deadline usually involves not missing more than 3 consecutive classes. You do not have to register to receive some types of loans and for others you do. You can pick up your check but not register or pay.

The timing is just another suspicious characteristic of this case. Meaning after monies could have been received but before deadline for registration and fee payment.

[Mr FATE]

Fine with me, Fate. Respond as you wish.

If you're making a moral judgment that homosexuality is wrong...that's one thing. I never did any such thing.

If simply posting the word "gay" is offensive to you, then you're shoving them all back into the closet and being politically correct.

ohhh please Ms Daisy... come'on now...you know that's not at all what I implied.

I don't really think speculation about Kristi being gay is even on my radar screen. She was married three times, and appeared to have "something" going on with Mr Davis.

just because a girl likes to ride a motorcycle doesn't make her gay - it makes her thrifty with her money and thinking about affordable transportation while a student.

"gay" is hardly an offensive word to me... and I could think of many more - but as I have said - I have a shell made from titanium - little offends me and there's little that I haven't seen on message boards.... by the way - and just for the record - when the topix forum was invaded by gay haters - I wrote on my blog that was entirely wrong and my blog is directed toward missing persons and crime.

At the time - I said - this is not a topic we normally roll with here.. but we talked about it anyway.

by the way - I don't worry about being politically correct

[ClimbingRose]

Don't you all notice a common thread in most of our "brainstorming"?

Then we have Kristi's personal history, including fishing for dates via the internet immediately after a short marriage and divorce (her 3rd). Her possible whirlwind long distance romance and reckless and secret plans to marry. All of which are contradictory to her Bible Belt Baptist upbringing. Her seeming preoccupation with romance and irresponsible attitude toward making a living and raising her son.

And then there the other side of the issue. Sure, she had problems and made mistakes but who doesn't? Who of us would want to be dissected in blogs and MB's?

So we are left to speculate. I still don't think a stranger could have gotten close enough to grab her and that indicates someone she knew. Someone who caused her to set aside her self-defense mode and training till it was too late.

It either happened just like it appeared and someone pulled off a perfect kidnapping or she had much more serious mental problems than anyone could have guessed.

Releasing a little info would keep the case alive at least.

(snipped per CW)


Have begun to notice a trend in your remarks to our fellow posters that could be construed as a slightly hidden attempt at ridiculing us b/c we do come on these MB's to discuss any and all aspects that could have been involved with a crime. And, yes our brainstorming tend to take similar paths for various crimes but isn't that methodology how some tools are developed to resolve or prevent a future crime that LE incorporates into their strategies?
On a personal note, if GOD forbid I should find myself in such a situation I would pray that my life and everyone in it gets put under the microscope, xrayed and dissected if it could offer any hope of me being found. If my time should come to an end before all the pieces could be put together then perhaps another victim may be saved.
I'm not sure if you get the please of corresponding with your fellow posters but I have so please refrain from your snide and sometimes condescending remarks about them as if they have nothing better during the day then to chit chat on the internet. Most of our posters have extensive and broad scopes of education and experience. Every single poster that comes to this board gives their personal time to discuss, debate, learn and teach others a unique form of education that otherwise could not receive. BUT, the MAIN reason we come to this board everyday is because we care and deeply want to help and for some this may be the only avenue.

[doctor_J]

(snipped per CW)


Have begun to notice a trend in your remarks to our fellow posters that could be construed as a slightly hidden attempt at ridiculing us b/c we do come on these MB's to discuss any and all aspects that could have been involved with a crime. And, yes our brainstorming tend to take similar paths for various crimes but isn't that methodology how some tools are developed to resolve or prevent a future crime that LE incorporates into their strategies?
On a personal note, if GOD forbid I should find myself in such a situation I would pray that my life and everyone in it gets put under the microscope, xrayed and dissected if it could offer any hope of me being found. If my time should come to an end before all the pieces could be put together then perhaps another victim may be saved.
I'm not sure if you get the please of corresponding with your fellow posters but I have so please refrain from your snide and sometimes condescending remarks about them as if they have nothing better during the day then to chit chat on the internet. Most of our posters have extensive and broad scopes of education and experience. Every single poster that comes to this board gives their personal time to discuss, debate, learn and teach others a unique form of education that otherwise could not receive. BUT, the MAIN reason we come to this board everyday is because we care and deeply want to help and for some this may be the only avenue.

I am sincerely confused by this post and how it relates to mine. I have never, snidely or otherwise, ridiculed other posters for posting. I have, in fact, praised them. The only time I might have gotten out of line was in defending someone who was being ridiculed.

I really think you have me confused with someone else. Please re-read the post you quoted. Why would I come here if I thought as you posted..:confused

ETA -- Read my thoughts about posters in # 159:

[doctor_J]

(snipped per CW)


Have begun to notice a trend in your remarks to our fellow posters that could be construed as a slightly hidden attempt at ridiculing us b/c we do come on these MB's to discuss any and all aspects that could have been involved with a crime. And, yes our brainstorming tend to take similar paths for various crimes but isn't that methodology how some tools are developed to resolve or prevent a future crime that LE incorporates into their strategies?
On a personal note, if GOD forbid I should find myself in such a situation I would pray that my life and everyone in it gets put under the microscope, xrayed and dissected if it could offer any hope of me being found. If my time should come to an end before all the pieces could be put together then perhaps another victim may be saved.
I'm not sure if you get the please of corresponding with your fellow posters but I have so please refrain from your snide and sometimes condescending remarks about them as if they have nothing better during the day then to chit chat on the internet. Most of our posters have extensive and broad scopes of education and experience. Every single poster that comes to this board gives their personal time to discuss, debate, learn and teach others a unique form of education that otherwise could not receive. BUT, the MAIN reason we come to this board everyday is because we care and deeply want to help and for some this may be the only avenue.

Please refer to BBM.
Please give just one instance where I have done this, because it was inadvertent and I wish to correct it.

[mitzi]

Something just occurred to me, but perhaps it's been mentioned. I know we talked alot about Kristi's enrollment - or lack there of - I'm not sure we really know what happened here and hopefully we will know all the details sooner rather than later...

some have mentioned that it might be possible to enroll even on the date of the first class - I don't doubt that ... and some have said that enrollment would / could be conducted via websites...

but what occurred to me was - to receive financial aid, you would probably have to apply for that months in advance..

so, I have two thoughts here - please feel free to add...

first - let's assume that Kristi did receive financial aid... this aid would have probably arrived well before school started. In a sense - this is a personal loan with few restrictions, but we all know it's supposed to be applied to school funding. Most of us have commented on the fact that there is no way to know if all or a portion is used for schooling. These funds are not totally accounted for and are mainly a personal loan.

if Kristi did have financial aid, and it did arrive well before school started, it could have funded a run-a-way scenario. So, it's all just speculation and could have tipped authorities to a scenario where this is not an abduction. I have no idea what the costs associated with her school were - I just know that my daughter goes to a very expense school and the costs are about $32,ooo per year. I'm sure there are schools that are anywhere from $8,ooo a yer all the way up to $45,ooo for Harvard. Even a student loan of 8 k would / could fund a get a way.

second - if Kristi did receive financial aid and it was still sitting in her account - the police may be thinking this is an abduction and not going to have a pleasant ending...

if Kristi truly did mention the lost school enrollment forms and Mr Davis was correct and conveyed that info accurately - it's easy to assume that her aid was completed.

comments?

Mr. Fate, I have thought along these same lines in the past. I posted several weeks ago about a woman that I worked with who used her financial aid money for expensive car repairs. What got me thinking about that was the "missing registration paperwork". Something at that time didn't add up to me.

If Kristi did in fact receive her financial aid money ahead of the registration deadline, and planned to use it for her getaway, she might have told DD that there was a problem with the registration paperwork. Maybe he asked about her new classes or class schedule, and she chose the paperwork problem answer instead of having to make up lies about classes that she might not remember.

To me, the school referring to her as a former student is very important. If she was enrolled, or in the process of correcting her registration, I'm sure they would still refer to her as a student during this time.

The financial aid would have been sent to her, and deposited in her account. If after checking her accounts, and tracking back a little history on it, LE might have realized that a large sum went in and right back out. Maybe they were even able to find out where and when the money came out, and that it was Kristi herself who did it.

Since finding this information takes a little time, it could explain why at some point, this case got really quiet.

JMO

[mitzi]

(snipped per CW)


Have begun to notice a trend in your remarks to our fellow posters that could be construed as a slightly hidden attempt at ridiculing us b/c we do come on these MB's to discuss any and all aspects that could have been involved with a crime. And, yes our brainstorming tend to take similar paths for various crimes but isn't that methodology how some tools are developed to resolve or prevent a future crime that LE incorporates into their strategies?
On a personal note, if GOD forbid I should find myself in such a situation I would pray that my life and everyone in it gets put under the microscope, xrayed and dissected if it could offer any hope of me being found. If my time should come to an end before all the pieces could be put together then perhaps another victim may be saved.
I'm not sure if you get the please of corresponding with your fellow posters but I have so please refrain from your snide and sometimes condescending remarks about them as if they have nothing better during the day then to chit chat on the internet. Most of our posters have extensive and broad scopes of education and experience. Every single poster that comes to this board gives their personal time to discuss, debate, learn and teach others a unique form of education that otherwise could not receive. BUT, the MAIN reason we come to this board everyday is because we care and deeply want to help and for some this may be the only avenue.

I'm confused.... Where did that post come from that it was snipped per CW?

[Mr FATE]

Mr. Fate, I have thought along these same lines in the past. I posted several weeks ago about a woman that I worked with who used her financial aid money for expensive car repairs. What got me thinking about that was the "missing registration paperwork". Something at that time didn't add up to me.

If Kristi did in fact receive her financial aid money ahead of the registration deadline, and planned to use it for her getaway, she might have told DD that there was a problem with the registration paperwork. Maybe he asked about her new classes or class schedule, and she chose the paperwork problem answer instead of having to make up lies about classes that she might not remember.

To me, the school referring to her as a former student is very important. If she was enrolled, or in the process of correcting her registration, I'm sure they would still refer to her as a student during this time.

The financial aid would have been sent to her, and deposited in her account. If after checking her accounts, and tracking back a little history on it, LE might have realized that a large sum went in and right back out. Maybe they were even able to find out where and when the money came out, and that it was Kristi herself who did it.

Since finding this information takes a little time, it could explain why at some point, this case got really quiet.

JMO



Hi Mitzi... and you know you don't need to call me mister... LOL

your line of thinking is exactly the same as mine. This would be the largest clue I could think of beside her computer and phone forensics.

I wonder what was discovered here if anything... and I do remember you posting about the car repairs and that was when I added my friend bought a race horse with his financial aid.... It was a harness racing horse - can't remember it's name, so it probably didn't win too often... LOL

[doctor_J]

I'm confused.... Where did that post come from that it was snipped per CW?

mitzi, you can't possibly be as confused as I am. I've never made condescending posts about anyone or especially about posters in general. I don't see how the comments related to the post she partially quoted

Please, if anyone agrees with Climbing Rose, please give the post # so I can straighten out any misunderstanding, hopefully. I only come here because I'm interested in Kristi's case. No hidden agenda here.

[Ms Daisy]

mitzi, you can't possibly be as confused as I am. I've never made condescending posts about anyone or especially about posters in general. I don't see how the comments related to the post she partially quoted

Please, if anyone agrees with Climbing Rose, please give the post # so I can straighten out any misunderstanding, hopefully. I only come here because I'm interested in Kristi's case. No hidden agenda here.

It's ok, doctor J. I think it's just a misunderstanding that will be resolved in the morning. :smile:

[seemsodd]

Something just occurred to me, but perhaps it's been mentioned. I know we talked alot about Kristi's enrollment - or lack there of - I'm not sure we really know what happened here and hopefully we will know all the details sooner rather than later...

some have mentioned that it might be possible to enroll even on the date of the first class - I don't doubt that ... and some have said that enrollment would / could be conducted via websites...

but what occurred to me was - to receive financial aid, you would probably have to apply for that months in advance..

so, I have two thoughts here - please feel free to add...

first - let's assume that Kristi did receive financial aid... this aid would have probably arrived well before school started. In a sense - this is a personal loan with few restrictions, but we all know it's supposed to be applied to school funding. Most of us have commented on the fact that there is no way to know if all or a portion is used for schooling. These funds are not totally accounted for and are mainly a personal loan.

if Kristi did have financial aid, and it did arrive well before school started, it could have funded a run-a-way scenario. So, it's all just speculation and could have tipped authorities to a scenario where this is not an abduction. I have no idea what the costs associated with her school were - I just know that my daughter goes to a very expense school and the costs are about $32,ooo per year. I'm sure there are schools that are anywhere from $8,ooo a yer all the way up to $45,ooo for Harvard. Even a student loan of 8 k would / could fund a get a way.

second - if Kristi did receive financial aid and it was still sitting in her account - the police may be thinking this is an abduction and not going to have a pleasant ending...

if Kristi truly did mention the lost school enrollment forms and Mr Davis was correct and conveyed that info accurately - it's easy to assume that her aid was completed.

comments?


I agree Mr. Fate, how convenient/lucky Kristi had a witness on her cell phone to report her abduction considering how dark it is up here by 9 o'clock Lord knows the neighbors couldn't have seen anything out their windows... of course they probably could have heard a scream! JMO...

[ClimbingRose]

Something just occurred to me, but perhaps it's been mentioned. I know we talked alot about Kristi's enrollment - or lack there of - I'm not sure we really know what happened here and hopefully we will know all the details sooner rather than later...

some have mentioned that it might be possible to enroll even on the date of the first class - I don't doubt that ... and some have said that enrollment would / could be conducted via websites...

but what occurred to me was - to receive financial aid, you would probably have to apply for that months in advance..

so, I have two thoughts here - please feel free to add...

first - let's assume that Kristi did receive financial aid... this aid would have probably arrived well before school started. In a sense - this is a personal loan with few restrictions, but we all know it's supposed to be applied to school funding. Most of us have commented on the fact that there is no way to know if all or a portion is used for schooling. These funds are not totally accounted for and are mainly a personal loan.

if Kristi did have financial aid, and it did arrive well before school started, it could have funded a run-a-way scenario. So, it's all just speculation and could have tipped authorities to a scenario where this is not an abduction. I have no idea what the costs associated with her school were - I just know that my daughter goes to a very expense school and the costs are about $32,ooo per year. I'm sure there are schools that are anywhere from $8,ooo a yer all the way up to $45,ooo for Harvard. Even a student loan of 8 k would / could fund a get a way.

second - if Kristi did receive financial aid and it was still sitting in her account - the police may be thinking this is an abduction and not going to have a pleasant ending...

if Kristi truly did mention the lost school enrollment forms and Mr Davis was correct and conveyed that info accurately - it's easy to assume that her aid was completed.

comments?



IIRC the student picks the loan check up at the Financial Aid dept. and if there is a balance on tutition or something don't they deduct from that check? So far the only connection we have with Kristi in the process of registring is DD, right? (drawing a blank there) Kristi could have also lied to her family of her registering for classes also. Perhaps she may not have planned on returning to school. If so then why?

Please remember these are only opinions or theories.

ClimbingRose

[Ms Daisy]

(snipped per CW)


Have begun to notice a trend in your remarks to our fellow posters that could be construed as a slightly hidden attempt at ridiculing us b/c we do come on these MB's to discuss any and all aspects that could have been involved with a crime. And, yes our brainstorming tend to take similar paths for various crimes but isn't that methodology how some tools are developed to resolve or prevent a future crime that LE incorporates into their strategies?
On a personal note, if GOD forbid I should find myself in such a situation I would pray that my life and everyone in it gets put under the microscope, xrayed and dissected if it could offer any hope of me being found. If my time should come to an end before all the pieces could be put together then perhaps another victim may be saved.
I'm not sure if you get the please of corresponding with your fellow posters but I have so please refrain from your snide and sometimes condescending remarks about them as if they have nothing better during the day then to chit chat on the internet. Most of our posters have extensive and broad scopes of education and experience. Every single poster that comes to this board gives their personal time to discuss, debate, learn and teach others a unique form of education that otherwise could not receive. BUT, the MAIN reason we come to this board everyday is because we care and deeply want to help and for some this may be the only avenue.

deleted by Ms Daisy

[ClimbingRose]

I'm confused.... Where did that post come from that it was snipped per CW?

Oops, sorry. Wasn't meant to be disrespectful I'm still trying to figure that snipped thing rule and with teacher being sorta strict today didn't want to be sent to detention. Just sooo many rules, maybe, hopefully I'll get this down soon.



So Sorry Everyone, My Apologies, probably just need some chocolate:blushing:

[Ms Daisy]

Nite nite everybody. There isn't anything left to discuss on this case. Until there is, I'll reserve any further posts.

[seemsodd]

mitzi, you can't possibly be as confused as I am. I've never made condescending posts about anyone or especially about posters in general. I don't see how the comments related to the post she partially quoted

Please, if anyone agrees with Climbing Rose, please give the post # so I can straighten out any misunderstanding, hopefully. I only come here because I'm interested in Kristi's case. No hidden agenda here.


I can only speak for myself Doctor J, I like to read your posts it makes me think about my motives or lack of thought when I post something that is only local rumors, I spend allot of time just sitting here deleting words because I don't want to come across as vendictive or someone with an agenda I like the way you can disect or improve upon a line of thought you make me a better participant in this blog. Keep up the good work.

[mitzi]

Hi Mitzi... and you know you don't need to call me mister... LOL

your line of thinking is exactly the same as mine. This would be the largest clue I could think of beside her computer and phone forensics.

I wonder what was discovered here if anything... and I do remember you posting about the car repairs and that was when I added my friend bought a race horse with his financial aid.... It was a harness racing horse - can't remember it's name, so it probably didn't win too often... LOL

So that was you! lol I didn't want to hunt back to that post, but I remembered the race horse story! lol Just couldn't remember who said it.

DD says he met her parents the Sunday before Kristi went missing. Maybe, after they all met, Kristi decided to tell them who he was. Mom and Dad weren't pleased with yet another relationship, especially one that developed online. Maybe this turned into a big argument, and mean things were said in reference to her and her relationships. At some point, she had enough.........cook's up a plan and figures she'll teach them to question her decisions. something like If you don;t like the way I live my life...what if I wasn't around anymore? How would you feel then?

I don't think this family was all that close. As others have pointed out, what was up with needing pictures from friends? Why didn't they have any that were recent? Maybe the relationship KC had with her parents, or at least her father, was strained for a long time. This is a small community, and they had to keep dealing with the divorces, and maybe other relationships in between.

All just my opinion.

[ClimbingRose]

I went back to that post that I snipped, I must be more tired than I realized. Everyone can take 5 minutes to bash me for that one. I can't even make sense of it right now. Probably need more than chocolate.


[SIZE="3"]I'm soo sorry for that mess of confusion[/SIZE

ClimbingRose

[C.Hound]

IIRC the student picks the loan check up at the Financial Aid dept. and if there is a balance on tutition or something don't they deduct from that check? So far the only connection we have with Kristi in the process of registring is DD, right? (drawing a blank there) Kristi could have also lied to her family of her registering for classes also. Perhaps she may not have planned on returning to school. If so then why?

Please remember these are only opinions or theories.

ClimbingRose

Maybe she decided she didn't want to pursue a second degree, or she wanted to pursue a new life...

[mitzi]

mitzi, you can't possibly be as confused as I am. I've never made condescending posts about anyone or especially about posters in general. I don't see how the comments related to the post she partially quoted

Please, if anyone agrees with Climbing Rose, please give the post # so I can straighten out any misunderstanding, hopefully. I only come here because I'm interested in Kristi's case. No hidden agenda here.

No problem here! I looks like an error to me. One time I had a several windows open at once for several different threads, and I got myself confused and put the wrong reply on the wrong thread! I realized it later....yikes!

[mitzi]

IIRC the student picks the loan check up at the Financial Aid dept. and if there is a balance on tutition or something don't they deduct from that check? So far the only connection we have with Kristi in the process of registring is DD, right? (drawing a blank there) Kristi could have also lied to her family of her registering for classes also. Perhaps she may not have planned on returning to school. If so then why?

Please remember these are only opinions or theories.

ClimbingRose

The lady that I referred to upthread, that worked with me, rec'd financial aid that was for school and other living expenses. She was a single mom that worked full time and went to school at night. Not sure if she picked it up and got the balance, or it was sent to her, and she paid the diff. Either way, she had that money in her account, and spent it on other things.

Maybe KC was bored with school. Needed a new adventure. A new start.

[ClimbingRose]

Thanks Seemsodd!! Good to know about Colwell DC! Now we have more to discuss!

I did see another **Rumor** that stated Kristi's 3rd Ex was a player. She supposedly caught him cruising and responding to personal ads on Craigslist. Another unconfirmed statement ... Kristi's Father was said to be disapproving towards her. If that were a fact, I think we all know the potential impact that could have on a woman's relationship with men. It could mean she was seeking paternal love and approval which she would never receive. Does any of that make sense?

Yep, see it all the time especially from daughters whose fathers are alcohol. I've been wondering about her relationship with both her father and brother just from the glimpse I've seen of her life

But hey IMO, and tonight it's wayyy off
ClimbingRose

[ClimbingRose]

The lady that I referred to upthread, that worked with me, rec'd financial aid that was for school and other living expenses. She was a single mom that worked full time and went to school at night. Not sure if she picked it up and got the balance, or it was sent to her, and she paid the diff. Either way, she had that money in her account, and spent it on other things.

Maybe KC was bored with school. Needed a new adventure. A new start.

There's a good possiblity of just that.

ClimbingRose

[ClimbingRose]

Maybe she decided she didn't want to pursue a second degree, or she wanted to pursue a new life...

May very well have which didn't include some.

ClimbingRose

[mitzi]

Seemsodd, I have a question for you since you are a local.

When this first happened, were there any people that were immediately leary of this story? Of the abduction?

[ClimbingRose]

Its a tough balance - one in which I have not mastered yet. I feel things should be explored, but when you possibly have family reading, I'm conscious of their feelings.

Mind you I feel for these families and can only imagine the nightmare they live in 24/7. I've seen this suggested before and is probably a good idea. Perhaps families should stay away from these particular boards b/c we do tend to and should dissect everything that was or may have been involved in that crime. If something solid comes in LE will share it with them before we hear, as it should be. I'm just concerned that if we become in some manner politically correct then we could miss something. I suspect LE is checking our boards often to see any good possible theories that are worth pursuing and that's fine. If a group of posters can in someway help LE find a victim then great. However, this really isn't something family members should be reading, the way our thoughts go from one end to another they would be having nervous breakdowns.

But, that's my opinion
ClimbingRose

[JanJan]

I've just caught up on the posts since 5 p.m. today. It seems that the consensus of OPINIONS is that the abduction was staged. I hope LE does read these posts and realize that people are giving up the hunt without any more information from them or the family. It seems that all of the theories have been stated. Without any further info, I don't see how we can offer anything more. You guys are really good at developing theories, etc. I just wish we could come to a conclusion that would let us know if Kristi is o.k. or not.

[Curious]

Yep, see it all the time especially from daughters whose fathers are alcohol. I've been wondering about her relationship with both her father and brother just from the glimpse I've seen of her life

But hey IMO, and tonight it's wayyy off
ClimbingRose

It's ok Kiddo, I'm with ya ... It's chocolate time for sure :biggrin:

I already stated what I had read about the relationship KC had with her Father. What I read about the brother was they were close and I believe he said she was supposed to come for a visit with him before she went back to school. He sure hightailed it up there when he got the call from Mom, so I think that indicates either family closeness or there were perhaps problems or worries that pre-existed the abduction that only the family was aware of.

JC was a school teacher, don't think I have heard what KC's Father did for a living. RC is an Engineer, don't recall what specialty/field.

Fate and Mitzi, GREAT point about the FA. I believe in either scenario LE has those bank records and knows the answer. The "former student" comment could have a lot of meanings or none at all. Could have been the reporter's frame of reference. I also read somewhere:glare: that RC said she was doing an internship at a Union County Hospital, and I believe that was this summer. I have to go back and find my source.

I wonder if Kristi felt like she was being judged, by her own family and her local community. Just throwing that out there.

[mitzi]

It's ok Kiddo, I'm with ya ... It's chocolate time for sure :biggrin:

I already stated what I had read about the relationship KC had with her Father. What I read about the brother was they were close and I believe he said she was supposed to come for a visit with him before she went back to school. He sure hightailed it up there when he got the call from Mom, so I think that indicates either family closeness or there were perhaps problems or worries that pre-existed the abduction that only the family was aware of.

JC was a school teacher, don't think I have heard what KC's Father did for a living. RC is an Engineer, don't recall what specialty/field.

Fate and Mitzi, GREAT point about the FA. I believe in either scenario LE has those bank records and knows the answer. The "former student" comment could have a lot of meanings or none at all. Could have been the reporter's frame of reference. I also read somewhere:glare: that RC said she was doing an internship at a Union County Hospital, and I believe that was this summer. I have to go back and find my source.

I wonder if Kristi felt like she was being judged, by her own family and her local community. Just throwing that out there.

RC DID hightail it to Blairsville, didn't he? I was thinking about this earlier. He lives up around Knoxville or something, I think. And he was there by 1 am. So his mother calls hysterical because they think she has been abducted, or the parents immediate reaction is "what now"? So they call RC and tell him to get down here and talk some sense into her when she gets home. They've had enough.

I don't know what her father did for a living. I know he ran the local Wilderness Scout camp/groups, or something like that. But I don't know if that was full time or not.

Surely, KC had to be a topic of conversation in town at times. 3 marriages, change of career, working at Home Depot, working at the hospital, the chick around town on her motorcycle. There may have been alot of people who looked down on her lifestyle or choices. Her parents included.

[Ice Cycle]

I've just caught up on the posts since 5 p.m. today. It seems that the consensus of OPINIONS is that the abduction was staged. I hope LE does read these posts and realize that people are giving up the hunt without any more information from them or the family. It seems that all of the theories have been stated. Without any further info, I don't see how we can offer anything more. You guys are really good at developing theories, etc. I just wish we could come to a conclusion that would let us know if Kristi is o.k. or not.


Hi,
Just checking in to see if anything new on Kristi and I see not. I have to say I really don't think it was staged or that she just took off. I just can't believe she would do that to her son and her parents though I do think it very strange their has not been more reported on this by now anyway. I know LE is still probably working on it but the reporting has died down fast, seems like that happens in small towns faster.

[seemsodd]

Seemsodd, I have a question for you since you are a local.

When this first happened, were there any people that were immediately leary of this story? Of the abduction?


To much was going on that night, first Kristi dissappeared then the man shot and killed his caretaker, LE had a roadblock set up a man tried to avoid being stopped he almost ran over a couple of LE trying to get away they finally caught him in copperhill tenn. he had drugs in his car.. All this was happening in the general area of Jones Creek or with a few miles of each incident, it was scarey you can look at the archives for the north ga news paper front page and see how much was going on in the August 19 issue we only get the paper on tuesdays most of us didn't know what was happening.

Someone in a previous post said it all the community was scared we didn't know what all was going on we just knew from all the law around it was something bad most people, my family included was armed and ready, I know that sounds extreme...but it's the truth.

[just42day97]

I don't think this has been talked about yet..if it has someone please remind me...
Does anyone here know what has happened with Krisit's Apt? I 've not heard anything at all about that. Has the family moved her things out? someone paying the rent on it there? I am sure LE has checked her Apt for any clues....anyone heard anything about this??

[Curious]

RC DID hightail it to Blairsville, didn't he? I was thinking about this earlier. He lives up around Knoxville or something, I think. And he was there by 1 am. So his mother calls hysterical because they think she has been abducted, or the parents immediate reaction is "what now"? So they call RC and tell him to get down here and talk some sense into her when she gets home. They've had enough.

I don't know what her father did for a living. I know he ran the local Wilderness Scout camp/groups, or something like that. But I don't know if that was full time or not.

Surely, KC had to be a topic of conversation in town at times. 3 marriages, change of career, working at Home Depot, working at the hospital, the chick around town on her motorcycle. There may have been alot of people who looked down on her lifestyle or choices. Her parents included.

Now we're getting somewhere Mitzi ... We have heard Kristi described as sweet. Kind of a generic description. She has a very sweet face, I see kindness, but was she slow to anger, quick tempered, prone to hysteria, very grounded/down to earth? Those are the kinds of questions I have. Who is Kristi?

[Curious]

I don't think this has been talked about yet..if it has someone please remind me...
Does anyone here know what has happened with Krisit's Apt? I 've not heard anything at all about that. Has the family moved her things out? someone paying the rent on it there? I am sure LE has checked her Apt for any clues....anyone heard anything about this??

I wondered about that to. It made me think she must live a fairly debt-free lifestyle. We know she has a Harley, does she also have a car? Pays rent at an apartment, full time student. Worked at Home Depot? Part-time I am guessing. I think son lives with dad right? So does she pay support or otherwise pay for some of his expenses? Can we talk about the fact her son lives with Dad?

[mitzi]

To much was going on that night, first Kristi dissappeared then the man shot and killed his caretaker, LE had a roadblock set up a man tried to avoid being stopped he almost ran over a couple of LE trying to get away they finally caught him in copperhill tenn. he had drugs in his car.. All this was happening in the general area of Jones Creek or with a few miles of each incident, it was scarey you can look at the archives for the north ga news paper front page and see how much was going on in the August 19 issue we only get the paper on tuesdays most of us didn't know what was happening.

Someone in a previous post said it all the community was scared we didn't know what all was going on we just knew from all the law around it was something bad most people, my family included was armed and ready, I know that sounds extreme...but it's the truth.

Not extreme at all. My family in Blairsville were the same way, once they found out the next morning what all was going on with the car chase and the murder. My brother was stopped coming out of his road. They looked at his license, looked in the car...and they know him, but they did it anyway. When they told him all that had gone on during the night, he turned around and went back home to make sure his wife kept the alarms on all day. That was a shocking night for you folks up there.

When I saw him later that morning, I said oh my gosh! Did you hear about the woman from Blairsville that was kidnapped?!! Someone took her while she was out walking!!! And he just sat there with this strange look on his face. A look that said "Oh really? His gut reaction was no. Don't get me wrong...he wasn't blowing it off completely, but I think something about it just didn't ring true right away. Neither did his wife. That's why I wondered what you thought local reaction was.

[just42day97]

I wondered about that to. It made me think she must live a fairly debt-free lifestyle. We know she has a Harley, does she also have a car? Pays rent at an apartment, full time student. Worked at Home Depot? Part-time I am guessing. I think son lives with dad right? So does she pay support or otherwise pay for some of his expenses? Can we talk about the fact her son lives with Dad?

any locals here heard anything about her Apt??

The Son living with the Dad is not that uncommon anymore when the child gets older..But from what I understand he has lived with the Dad since the Divorce...which he was young at that time..so that is a little less common..
I am also wondering about the other Bikers she rode with...I know there are Christian Bikers...just wondering what kind of group of bikers she rode with...and a harley ain't cheap...lol

[mitzi]

Hi,
Just checking in to see if anything new on Kristi and I see not. I have to say I really don't think it was staged or that she just took off. I just can't believe she would do that to her son and her parents though I do think it very strange their has not been more reported on this by now anyway. I know LE is still probably working on it but the reporting has died down fast, seems like that happens in small towns faster.

I can't believe she would do that to her family either, but it happens. It's just another direction to explore. Unfortunately, with everything getting so quiet, no one has any idea what's happened.

[just42day97]

Not extreme at all. My family in Blairsville were the same way, once they found out the next morning what all was going on with the car chase and the murder. My brother was stopped coming out of his road. They looked at his license, looked in the car...and they know him, but they did it anyway. When they told him all that had gone on during the night, he turned around and went back home to make sure his wife kept the alarms on all day. That was a shocking night for you folks up there.

When I saw him later that morning, I said oh my gosh! Did you hear about the woman from Blairsville that was kidnapped?!! Someone took her while she was out walking!!! And he just sat there with this strange look on his face. A look that said "Oh really? His gut reaction was no. Don't get me wrong...he wasn't blowing it off completely, but I think something about it just didn't ring true right away. Neither did his wife. That's why I wondered what you thought local reaction was.

oh really? so do you mean your Brother was kinda like..." you really think she was kidnapped?" cause he was thinking she left on her own?
Yes a kidnapping and murder all in the same night for a small town is very rare..

[mitzi]

I don't think this has been talked about yet..if it has someone please remind me...
Does anyone here know what has happened with Krisit's Apt? I 've not heard anything at all about that. Has the family moved her things out? someone paying the rent on it there? I am sure LE has checked her Apt for any clues....anyone heard anything about this??

Haven't heard a word. I would think they would have to go and move her things out soon. I hope they have checked it out. They need to check any land line there for calls in and out, and see if there was another computer.

I'm sure they have. You know this case is being worked everyday.:wink:

[Curious]

Did you see the picture of Kristi and her friend with their Harley's? The one bike was pretty cherry. The same friend was the one who said KC was very independent and that sometimes got her in trouble. What does that statement say to you? Also noticed that pic is NOT on the
KC.Com website?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30250910&op=1&o=all&view=all&subj=118931052146&aid=-1&oid=118931052146&id=1549644205

[just42day97]

Haven't heard a word. I would think they would have to go and move her things out soon. I hope they have checked it out. They need to check any land line there for calls in and out, and see if there was another computer.

I'm sure they have. You know this case is being worked everyday.:wink:

oh yea...I remember it is...:thumbsup:

[just42day97]

Did you see the picture of Kristi and her friend with their Harley's? The one bike was pretty cherry. The same friend was the one who said KC was very independent and that sometimes got her in trouble. What does that statement say to you? Also noticed that pic is NOT on the KC.Com website?

I did see that pic once..and not seen it again..
The friends statement to me is right up there with the Dads statement about being carful of those you find on the internet...just kinda strange statements..but they gotta mean something! JMO

[mitzi]

I wondered about that to. It made me think she must live a fairly debt-free lifestyle. We know she has a Harley, does she also have a car? Pays rent at an apartment, full time student. Worked at Home Depot? Part-time I am guessing. I think son lives with dad right? So does she pay support or otherwise pay for some of his expenses? Can we talk about the fact her son lives with Dad?

It's been mentioned many times that her son lives with his father, so I think it's ok. He lives with husband #2, who I have heard is a pretty straight up guy from a good family. Someone else may have more info on them than I do since I don't live there.

No car has ever been mentioned, that I am aware of. And I have never heard if the motorcycle was accounted for, but I would assume it is.

I would imagine, as a student, she probably doesn't have to pay much in child support.

[mitzi]

oh really? so do you mean your Brother was kinda like..." you really think she was kidnapped?" cause he was thinking she left on her own?
Yes a kidnapping and murder all in the same night for a small town is very rare..

Yes. They were initially suspicious of the kidnapping story.

[just42day97]

Yes. They were initially suspicious of the kidnapping story.

hmmm Strange...I guess it took me a couple of weeks to become suspicious of it..but I am not a local who knows her and knows what she is like...

Anyone know how long Kristi had been at her Parents? I've seen the question asked here, but never seen an answer. I wonder if it was just maybe a few day visit, or all summer?

[mitzi]

Did you see the picture of Kristi and her friend with their Harley's? The one bike was pretty cherry. The same friend was the one who said KC was very independent and that sometimes got her in trouble. What does that statement say to you? Also noticed that pic is NOT on the
KC.Com website?
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30250910&op=1&o=all&view=all&subj=118931052146&aid=-1&oid=118931052146&id=1549644205

BBM

To me that means, she would take off on her own or with people she didn't know. Or friends would try and give her advice about avoiding certain situations, and she did whatever she wanted anyway.

Several years ago, one of the girls I hung out with was the same way. If we were in a crowded club, she would just wander off for hours. If there were a room full of men, she was drawn to the worst of them. If we went on vacation, she was the one that always seemed to wander off and find her own party. We didn't call it independent...we called it stupid.... She doesn't hang around with us anymore. If i wanted to babysit, I would have had children lol

[mitzi]

hmmm Strange...I guess it took me a couple of weeks to become suspicious of it..but I am not a local who knows her and knows what she is like...

Anyone know how long Kristi had been at her Parents? I've seen the question asked here, but never seen an answer. I wonder if it was just maybe a few day visit, or all summer?

I thought I read somewhere that her mom said KC had come for a week before school started again.

[Curious]

I thought I read somewhere that her mom said KC had come for a week before school started again.

I have to go back and find the name of the hospital she was interning at, I thought it was Union County Hospital? I assumed it was in Blairsville. Mitzi do you know?

[mitzi]

I have to go back and find the name of the hospital she was interning at, I thought it was Union County Hospital? I assumed it was in Blairsville. Mitzi do you know?

Union General Hospital, I think.

[just42day97]

Union General Hospital, I think.

anyone know if this was a paid internship?

Also, any locals see any missing persons flyers up in town?

[Curious]

anyone know if this was a paid internship?

Also, any locals see any missing persons flyers up in town?

One more thing locals, can someone give us some info on third ex. Not asking for real personal stuff. If a PM would be more comfortable, I would greatly appreciate it.

[doctor_J]

I didn't listen to all the interviews with DD. I had a hard time listening to him once he went into preach mode. Was he ever asked "Did you hear anyone else on the phone?" I wish the cops would tell the public whether there was a man or men heard on the phone, at least according to DD (the witness). The abductor would have to make some noise, even if he didn't speak he probably grunted or something during the struggle or sometime during the 5 minutes the phone was on.

I'm sorry in advance for the stiff-necked comment but that biker chick pic was something else. Complete with leather chaps and jackets, a do-rag and Christian slogan T-shirts.Wow. That's a side of Kristi you don't hear too much about. :scared:

My first thought was "Is this a Halloween costume?"

[Curious]

DD was asked in most of the interviews about the phone call. The only thing he would disclose was that it was clear she was being abducted and she said don't take me.

I guess I was a little taken aback by that pic too, the photos we saw of KC were demure in comparison. But hey if you're gonna ride a Harley :thumbup:

I am guessing the family was not fond of that picture, otherwise it would have been added to her website? They made a specific request for photos?! Do you think they had no response to the request? No new photo's have been added.

[just42day97]

I didn't listen to all the interviews with DD. I had a hard time listening to him once he went into preach mode. Was he ever asked "Did you hear anyone else on the phone?" I wish the cops would tell the public whether there was a man or men heard on the phone, at least according to DD (the witness). The abductor would have to make some noise, even if he didn't speak he probably grunted or something during the struggle or sometime during the 5 minutes the phone was on.

I'm sorry in advance for the stiff-necked comment but that biker chick pic was something else. Complete with leather chaps and jackets, a do-rag and Christian slogan T-shirts.Wow. That's a side of Kristi you don't hear too much about. :scared:

My first thought was "Is this a Halloween costume?"

I've asked the same question here about the phone call. If someone was out and graping her, and if it's true what gagirl said that DD remained on the line for 5 minutes, he had to have heard something. He did make mention in an interview when asked about that, he said he could not say anymore about the phone call at that time. If there was a struggle, he would have heard something. Let's say for just a minute that Kristi did leave on her own and set the phone call up to make it appear she was taken. If there wasn't another voice over the phone then I don't see how DD really thinks she was taken. At the very least another voice. He should have heard a struggle, maybe even screams. She could have used DD by talking with him on the phone to appear she was taken. But if she was taken then he should have heard all that. I would have thought they would release the 911 call, so we could at least hear that. Also, not sure what kind of ppl she rode bikes with, but we all know that some bikers are not very kind folks...not saying all bikers are like that. I know a few bikers and none of them are into any type of gangs or anything, but so many are.
After hearing tonight from seemsodd that Kristi may have been a flirt.
( I put it as nice as i could think) maybe Kristi might have been seeing someone else or talking to someone else on line..and that could have lead to someone wanting to harm her.
My gut tells me either, she left on her own, or someone she knows took her...it's a toss up for me right now...

[just42day97]

DD was asked in most of the interviews about the phone call. The only thing he would disclose was that it was clear she was being abducted and she said don't take me.

I guess I was a little taken aback by that pic too, the photos we saw of KC were demure in comparison. But hey if you're gonna ride a Harley :thumbup:

I am guessing the family was not fond of that picture, otherwise it would have been added to her website? They made a specific request for photos?! Do you think they had no response to the request? No new photo's have been added.

curious, I saw that pic once..do you know where it is so I can veiw it again? TIA!

[doctor_J]

Another question I've had all along is "Who supports Kristi"? She hasn't likely supported herself or her son, at least not since 02, Not likely to get alimony since she doesn't have physical custody. Probably mom and dad. That could have been a source of friction over the years as she got older but never seemed to finish school and get a professional job.

[Curious]

Just 42; I provided the link to the pic in #225.

Snipped; I hate to jump in here but I'm going to... Kristi was well known to like men, I mean really like men allot,, married, single just men that is the general gossip around town.

Have we given any weight to the possibility she like a "married man"? Their wive's tend not to like that much. What about an unplanned pregnancy with said married man? Far-fetched? Probably.

[doctor_J]

anyone know if this was a paid internship?

Also, any locals see any missing persons flyers up in town?

Since she was still in school, or supposed to be, I'm assuming it's unpaid. Actually, she pays to do it..."Clinical Studies"

[doctor_J]

Just 42; I provided the link to the pic in #225.

Snipped; I hate to jump in here but I'm going to... Kristi was well known to like men, I mean really like men allot,, married, single just men that is the general gossip around town.

Have we given any weight to the possibility she like a "married man"? Their wive's tend not to like that much. What about an unplanned pregnancy with said married man? Far-fetched? Probably.

I don't think it's far fetched. Kristi's fondness for men is obvious. I would venture to say she was preoccupied with men, for a woman her age. Some women are just that way and are not happy single. IF she did fake the abduction, I think she did it "for a man". Someone daddy would never approve of.

[HALE 2d GNAW]

One only needs to look at the 8/26 thread to see that gagirl was not simply just being "questioned" regarding something she said; and it wasn't just Hale2 and Fate that were doing it and/or not trying to stop it.

I have followed many threads here over the years (my old nic was gone somehow while I took a break from posting) and this case had been the most unwelcoming IMO to anyone that doesn't agree with the few frequent posters.

Sadly, IMO, with the heavily wooded areas surrounding her probable abduction site, we may never know the truth.


When did you become moderator? Or doctorj?

I didn't respond to your pm because I don't play games. I have no idea what the intentions were of that or the subject, gagirl. I will ask questions and judge other posts as I see fit. I don't have a problem with you disagreeing.

This is a crime discussion board. It is not a victim's reference board. There are many valuable resources and other boards available for that.

Comments on the internet often get lost in translation; a poster's intentions don't eual to a reader's reaction to them. Said in person, it might be processed totally different, including myself.

However, if someone is going to try and influence our opinions, they should expect to be challenged. I am sorry I doin't believe gagirl. But I am sure she is thrilled that you do. What exactly did you expect to be stopped? Did you protest when the alleged singing ministry muse name-called and labeled others?

It's a free country. gagirl can come here and make unlinked and inaccurate statements. Anyone can choose to accept the explanations. Anyone can choose to question the veracity or ID.

The notion that a few rude posters ran off an alleged inside source on this story is laughable. There is not one shred of evidence that DD and KC ever met in real life. But at least we have the 911 call.


Oh wait. We don't.

[RainyNiteNTx]

I didn't listen to all the interviews with DD. I had a hard time listening to him once he went into preach mode. Was he ever asked "Did you hear anyone else on the phone?" I wish the cops would tell the public whether there was a man or men heard on the phone, at least according to DD (the witness). The abductor would have to make some noise, even if he didn't speak he probably grunted or something during the struggle or sometime during the 5 minutes the phone was on.

I'm sorry in advance for the stiff-necked comment but that biker chick pic was something else. Complete with leather chaps and jackets, a do-rag and Christian slogan T-shirts.Wow. That's a side of Kristi you don't hear too much about. :scared:

My first thought was "Is this a Halloween costume?"

The pic of her as a biker looks like she wouldn't be saying "don't take me" but "get the heck out of here".

[HALE 2d GNAW]

Originally Posted by samantha
I haven't torn apart anybody's post, just rebutting those that have demonized a man they know absolutely nothing about, is not a person of interest nor a suspect .... I will continue to do so as long as this crap goes on.

I hope when all of this is over and they find the perp(s) that took Kristi that you will take a long look in the mirror at what you might have done to D. Davis and his family (gagirl58 being a member of this forum). I don't know if those that are doing this demonizing are socalled Christians, but if you claim to be, I want no part of your kind of religion.



Originally Posted bydoctor_J



samantha, I'm not one that thinks DD has anything to do with this but consider this from another perspective (before you get an unwanted trip to ban camp).

This is a crime forum. The only reason for being here is to discuss possibilities for solutions to terrible crimes. Statistics have shown time and time again that the most common perpertrators of murder of women are the boyfriends/husbands. We're talking 90 plus %. Members of this board see it over and over. Family members are hurting as are significant others whether they visit crime boards or not. Most that do come to crime boards do not last long because ALL people related to the victim are postulated as suspects. THAT's the PURPOSE of crime boards. If that's so offensive to you (and I realize it is) maybe crime boards are not for you. How about just expressing your opinion without showing intolerance for those with opposing views (and their religion)?


ttp://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=13397330&postcount=1131

[HALE 2d GNAW]

The pic of her as a biker looks like she wouldn't be saying "don't take me" but "get the heck out of here".


Hey Rainy LTNS.

ITA w/you. Both women look like that. Do you know how old that picture is? Or what is painted on the back of the bike? Just curious.


IIRC, wasn't the other woman in that picture interviewed by some TH? I could be wrong. Again. LOL but I thought she might be one of the friends that did not know abt DD and/or knew abt the back injury?

[RainyNiteNTx]

Hey Rainy LTNS.

ITA w/you. Both women look like that. Do you know how old that picture is? Or what is painted on the back of the bike? Just curious.


IIRC, wasn't the other woman in that picture interviewed by some TH? I could be wrong. Again. LOL but I thought she might be one of the friends that did not know abt DD and/or knew abt the back injury?

Hail Hale LOL - couldn't resist. I don't know how old the picture is or if that is the woman interviewed. I can't remember what she looked like its been so long ago. The painting on the back of that one bike looks like a person with something on their left shoulder - I can't make it out.

I do know that Harleys are very expensive, as are the helmets, chaps, tshirts, etc. That bike is beautiful (the one with the painting on it).

[HALE 2d GNAW]

Isn't that what LE said when they announced that the searches were ending but they would be working the case and following up leads everyday? That's what I thought but can't go back and research all releases.

As far as Speak Out accusing posters of enjoying the tragedy of others, I certainly don't approve of that kind of post. It's a put down, just as the one he/she received. "In kind" I believe it was posted. Speak Out was wrong, imo, but did not throw the first punch, so to speak.

It would be beneficial if all would be treated respectfully. If gagirl had not been attacked and run off, we might actually have some "inside info" even if it was slanted with an agenda. You can be sure if someone comes aboard that is close to the families or the investigation, they will not be able to withstand the personal insults and won't stay long.



I went back to old threads to try & see where you & doradoll were coming from. I might have missed something and am open to revising my opinion.

I saw a high level of tolereance for gagirl's unsourced posts. It was clearly stated she would stay as long as her *daddy* was innocent in our thoughts and words. Some information was questioned and perhaps directly refuted by daddy/DD's own words. Did we really stand a chance that she would stay?

But the posts that really jumped out at me were labels "crazies" "witch hunt" "lynch mobs" that needed to be praying and/or searching while they continued posting on the internet. Hardly benevolent words IMO That is when things turned ugly. We are not here for them. We are here to discuss Kristi Cornwell's disappearance.

eta: I know I missed this one: We can now add "griefers" to our list of names. :rolleyes:


I am not sure why some are allowed to call out posters but others are not? Seems to be a big double standard IMO. Here's a little reminder of what you preached in that tread doradoll mentioned. She might have missed this one

#89 08-26-2009, 08:23 PM
doctor_J

I thought I made it obvious that I was referring to posters who repeatedly address and insult gagirl BY NAME, which is not only distasteful and obnoxious but against tos, as they know, which is why they are new sign-ups.


Or we could just all go back to posting about Kristi and quit fretting over mysterious posters. Respect is earned. Benefit of the doubt is given ~until it is abused.

[doradoll]

My thoughts about purposeful disappearance:

If she left on her own she would have either had to do it all alone or she would have had a helper(s).

ALONE: She would have to have a way to get off of Jones Creek Road to some destination. She would need enough funds to survive for awhile. She may possibly have needed to disguise herself, or at least create a new identity/name, unless she was REALLY far from home where news was not discussing her case and showing her picture. She was a person with many relationships, friends and men, and doesn't appear to be a loner.

HELPER(S): She would have had to have some prior contact with the person or persons involved in the planning. While it is possible that it could have all been done face to face and in secret, more likely there would be phone calls, mail or email. All which could have been researched by LE and traced to the partner in the get-away.

In both scenarios, she would have had to stage a big LIE with the struggle and leave her family, her SON, her life as she knew it. All of her possessions, her apartment, Harley etc. She would have to abandon a new career path that she was ?half way through (not sure how long the program is).

Although, I would love to believe that she was just overwhelmed and took off, it doesn't seem likely to me. If her brother is taking time off to keep looking for her, it would seem that they didn't find any info to confirm a purposeful escape on Kristi's part.

One of my first gut reactions was that she was helping a prisoner at her former place of employment and fell for him and ran away with him when he was released, knowing that he/she would never be accepted by her family. But, for this to be true, I would think there would some record of a phone, mail, email, inmate visitation trail.

I believe she was snatched from the roadside by an opportunistic sex offender and taking into those deep woods. I wish that wasn't the most probable idea for me, but it is.

While I feel this is the most likely scenario, IMO, I will be jumping up and down for joy if it proves to be wrong.

I wish peace for her family, boyfriend and friends and hope they will have answers soon.