Caylee Anthony 9/15

[desmom]

Attorneys still want a deposition from Anthonys' private investigator
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/services/newspaper/printedition/monday/orl-loccasey-anthony-private-invest091509sep15,0,7031005.story



Heads up: CW warned us about staying on topic yesterday. Posting or quoting off topic may lead to banning and/or locking of the thread.

[desmom]

Yesterday afternoon headlines for those that may have missed them:

Anthonys' P.I. Accused Of Lying On Stand
http://www.wftv.com/news/20907568/detail.html
Video: Lie May Be Exposed
http://www.wftv.com/video/20911069/index.html

Big Question In Anthony Case: How Did Caylee Die?
Some Wonder If Prosecutors Can Prove Murder
http://www.wesh.com/news/20911873/detail.html
Video: Big Question In Anthony Case: How Did Caylee Die?
http://www.wesh.com/video/20915266/index.html

[sydney]

thanks, des.

iirc, didn't there exist an "oral" contract between dc and the a's? and it was supplanted by a "written" contract? and that the milstead's witnessed the contract? or am i all confoozled again? this case is such a spider's web of deception, it's easy to be confoozled. i'm off to read his statement again.

[msgatorslayer]

G'morning!

Does anyone have an Orlando link of Cindy talking at the Missing Children's event yesterday?

She did speak! She was just on my morning news talking about saving our childrens DNA. Paraphrasing, she said, you can swab your child and stick it in your freezer.

[Sun]

Good morning everyone! I'm still hoping that we'll hear shortly that pre-trial and trial dates have been set for the Criminal Check/Fraud case. I wonder just how long this process can take, from a legal standpoint?

And, where are all those Motions that Lyon has been promising would be filed after Labor Day? It's now mid-month.

[Jeepers]

Prosecutors demanded that the defense hand over that evidence, which they are legally required to do. If nothing is handed over, it backfires on Casey Anthony

From the article Desmon just posted in reference to DC lying and the defense team saying they have evidence that Caylee was placed there after CasE was in jail.

I am hoping that this just blows up in their face!

[bchand]

thanks, des.

iirc, didn't there exist an "oral" contract between dc and the a's? and it was supplanted by a "written" contract? and that the milstead's witnessed the contract? or am i all confoozled again? this case is such a spider's web of deception, it's easy to be confoozled.

it'll be interesting to see if a written contract is provided. i always was under the impression that dc's searching of that area was a lot more than coincidence.


D. Casey said to Hoover - I know where she is. Hoover - Is she alive?
Casey - no.

It definitely wasn't a coincidence.

I know D Casey is a naive man because he said after being around Casey, he knew her to be a loving mother, but naive enough to take a pyschic's word for it where a body was? (But then, you never know with the characters involved in this story.)

[sydney]

D. Casey said to Hoover - I know where she is. Hoover - Is she alive?
Casey - no.

It definitely wasn't a coincidence.

I know D Casey is a naive man because he said after being around Casey, he knew her to be a loving mother, but naive enough to take a pyschic's word for it where a body was? (But then, you never know with the characters involved in this story.)

thanks, bc. why would anyone in the family tell him where caylee was? why would dc risk his professional license and lie to protect kc and the family? where are his ethics? (rhetorical questions again, i know)

[bchand]

G'morning!

Does anyone have an Orlando link of Cindy talking at the Missing Children's event yesterday?

She did speak! She was just on my morning news talking about saving our childrens DNA. Paraphrasing, she said, you can swab your child and stick it in your freezer.

If she spoke, she'll probably request a copy of it to add to their web page eventually.

(If she HAD Caylee's DNA, she'd probably turn over the dog's instead to LE. JMO)

eta: Removed video as it was from 2008. They say they'll put up this years as soon as it becomes available.

[Jeepers]

I found an article about yesterday's event but it did not mention the A's being there. Maybe with all the talk about them showing up at the event the other day they decided to keep the focus on their missing loved ones and not let the A's over shadow their goals.

[msgatorslayer]

If she spoke, she'll probably request a copy of it to add to their web page eventually.

(If she HAD Caylee's DNA, she'd probably turn over the dog's instead to LE. JMO)

I know not to post before drinking coffee. Let me rephrase by original post. Ididn't see her speak at the event. A reporter got ahold of her and talked to her at some point. Yep, another cameo for her collection. Wonder if she's able to keep count now days.

LOL, I thought the same about the DNA. She has some big old petunias talking about how the rest of us should DNA our kids!:rolleyes:

[bchand]

I found an article about yesterday's event but it did not mention the A's being there. Maybe with all the talk about them showing up at the event the other day they decided to keep the focus on their missing loved ones and not let the A's over shadow their goals.

They were there.

http://i27.tinypic.com/2lsb5hg.jpg

You have a good point. They take away the legitimacy of any event they attend since their daughter murdered her child. This is not the case with any of the other attendees.

[Sun]

D. Casey said to Hoover - I know where she is. Hoover - Is she alive?
Casey - no.

It definitely wasn't a coincidence.

I know D Casey is a naive man because he said after being around Casey, he knew her to be a loving mother, but naive enough to take a pyschic's word for it where a body was? (But then, you never know with the characters involved in this story.)

I don't think it was a coincidence either. In the days just prior, LP had been searching the Little Econ in JBP. I suspect that the Anthonys or the defense was a bit concerned that perhaps they'd been lied to about just where Caylee had been dumped. And, they wanted someone to confirm, just for their peace of mind. (hard to imagine that anyone would want to leave the remains of a child "unfound to LE" in the woods, but I think that is exactly what they intended). IMO, they just wanted to know that the remains were indeed where they'd been told that they were. They wanted Caylee to still be officially "missing" so they could continue on with the "Caylee is alive" program.

[bchand]

thanks, bc. why would anyone in the family tell him where caylee was? why would dc risk his professional license and lie to protect kc and the family? where are his ethics? (rhetorical questions again, i know)

He drank the Anthony Koolaid of course sydney !!

Seriously, it seems that anyone involved with the Anthonys like them until they step out of line. Ask Lenny.

[Jeepers]

If she spoke, she'll probably request a copy of it to add to their web page eventually.

(If she HAD Caylee's DNA, she'd probably turn over the dog's instead to LE. JMO)

eta: Removed video as it was from 2008. They say they'll put up this years as soon as it becomes available.

Yep, She keeps copies of all her good deeds in that Big Ole Binder of hers I bet it weighs a ton by now.
I wonder if Casey can have her binder that she kept in jail. The one that was marked "Media"

[alisa31235]

They were there.

http://i27.tinypic.com/2lsb5hg.jpg

You have a good point. They take away the legitimacy of any event they attend since their daughter murdered her child. This is not the case with any of the other attendees.

Good morning all... i just can`t understand why the A`s don`t do something for parents of murdered children that would make more sense than missing children Caylee has been found IMO

[desmom]

thanks, bc. why would anyone in the family tell him where caylee was? why would dc risk his professional license and lie to protect kc and the family? where are his ethics? (rhetorical questions again, i know)

IMO, DC did not expect Hoover to tell all to LE.

Msgatorslayer I googled the video every which way I can think of and am not seeing anything....yet.

[Jeepers]

He drank the Anthony Koolaid of course sydney !!

Seriously, it seems that anyone involved with the Anthonys like them until they step out of line. Ask Lenny.

That is what is so odd about this family. They appear to be likeable folks but their claws emerge just as fast as their smiles do.
Everyone that tried to help have been clawed to death, only the bad guys remain.

Good Guys:

Jesse Grund
Richard Grund
TonE L
Riccardo M
Amy
KioMarie
Lenny
Tim Miller
NeJames
LE
FBI

[msgatorslayer]

I found another link about the event at the Tallahasse Democrat. No mention of the Anthony's and their pics weren't snapped either.

:thumbsup:

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/20090915/NEWS01/909150320/Missing-children--adults-remembered&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

[bchand]

Good morning all... i just can`t understand why the A`s don`t do something for parents of murdered children that would make more sense than missing children Caylee has been found IMO

I agree alisa. Even then, they are "grandparents" as much as they try to take center stage.

[msgatorslayer]

IMO, DC did not expect Hoover to tell all to LE.

Msgatorslayer I googled the video every which way I can think of and am not seeing anything....yet.

This is the video I found lastnight. The link takes you to an article and then you have to click on 'watch story' towards the bottom. It shows the Anthony's sitting in the crowd.

http://www.baynews9.com/content/36/2009/9/14/520861.html

I seen a clip on my morning TV NEWS where a reporter talked to Cindy about DNA. I have found no link to that. But it was on BN9.

[bchand]

That is what is so odd about this family. They appear to be likeable folks but their claws emerge just as fast as their smiles do.
Everyone that tried to help have been clawed to death, only the bad guys remain.

Good Guys:

Jesse Grund
Richard Grund
TonE L
Riccardo M
Amy
KioMarie
Lenny
Tim Miller
NeJames
LE
FBI

I wouldn't add him to the good guy list, but there's also Larry Garrison who crossed Cindy and was out of there.

[Scampi]

G'morning!

Does anyone have an Orlando link of Cindy talking at the Missing Children's event yesterday?

She did speak! She was just on my morning news talking about saving our childrens DNA. Paraphrasing, she said, you can swab your child and stick it in your freezer.


I swear, I am so glad I'm tucked safely up here in Maryland, cuz if I were in that crowd I think I'd have to go joe wilson on her.

:cuss:

[bchand]

I found another link about the event at the Tallahasse Democrat. No mention of the Anthony's and their pics weren't snapped either.

:thumbsup:

http://www.tallahassee.com/article/20090915/NEWS01/909150320/Missing-children--adults-remembered&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

Can you believe that Roy Brown, whose daughter has been missing since 1998 is wearing a t-shirt with Caylee's picture dominate on it? I wonder if G & C were giving them out?

(On the right of the article.)

[desmom]

G'morning!

Does anyone have an Orlando link of Cindy talking at the Missing Children's event yesterday?

She did speak! She was just on my morning news talking about saving our childrens DNA. Paraphrasing, she said, you can swab your child and stick it in your freezer.

I looked for DIY DNA kits and found this http://www.klaaskids.org/pg_cs_dnakit.htm

[need2no]

Good morning all... i just can`t understand why the A`s don`t do something for parents of murdered children that would make more sense than missing children Caylee has been found IMO

Good morning.

The Anthony's intend for their new 'careers' to be in assisting families with searches for missing children. Apparently this can be quite lucrative. This endeavor produces donations from the public to help with expenses to find the missing. The longer a child is missing, likely the more donations roll in if the case is kept in the media. A foundation for murdered children at best might collect meager donations to help pay funeral expenses for families in need, and would not involve boats, free travel to various talk shows where they would be put up in nice hotels and have their meals paid for, public speaking engagements, or constant attention from the media, etc.

It appears the Anthony's love being in the public eye and are enjoying the attention from the media and their countless photo ops.

Considering the circumstances of Caylee's death, their actions are shameful to say the least.

IMO

[need2no]

Can you believe that Roy Brown, whose daughter has been missing since 1998 is wearing a t-shirt with Caylee's picture dominate on it? I wonder if G & C were giving them out?

(On the right of the article.)

:ohmy: That would be my guess. Click on the photo gallery at that link. Cindy managed to get in a couple of pics.

[msgatorslayer]

Can you believe that Roy Brown, whose daughter has been missing since 1998 is wearing a t-shirt with Caylee's picture dominate on it? I wonder if G & C were giving them out?

(On the right of the article.)

Yeah, I noticed that.

Who knows! Maybe since the Anthony's supported him on the Anniversary of Amanda's death, he's just being kind and returning the support.

Everyone at these types of events seems to accept them.

[need2no]

I swear, I am so glad I'm tucked safely up here in Maryland, cuz if I were in that crowd I think I'd have to go joe wilson on her.

:cuss:


:laugh: Joe Wilson


I might have to walk up to Cindy and say "aren't you the woman who's daughter murdered your granddaughter, when are they gonna have her murder trial, I don't want to miss that."

[msgatorslayer]

:ohmy: That would be my guess. Click on the photo gallery at that link. Cindy managed to get in a couple of pics.

:ohmy: I didn't notice her when I first looked through the gallery. She's not the dominate one in the picture, lmao. Bet that chaps her hide. These pics will not go in the 'media file'. Nobody puts Cindy in the corner.:wink:

[Barbara fl.]

Good morning.

The Anthony's intend for their new 'careers' to be in assisting families with searches for missing children. Apparently this can be quite lucrative. This endeavor produces donations from the public to help with expenses to find the missing. The longer a child is missing, likely the more donations roll in if the case is kept in the media. A foundation for murdered children at best might collect meager donations to help pay funeral expenses for families in need, and would not involve boats, free travel to various talk shows where they would be put up in nice hotels and have their meals paid for, public speaking engagements, or constant attention from the media, etc.

It appears the Anthony's love being in the public eye and are enjoying the attention from the media and their countless photo ops.

Considering the circumstances of Caylee's death, their actions are shameful to say the least.

IMO


No doubt about it, they think they are celebrities because their daughter is a murderer....I would be hiding my head in shame...

I aso think that all this is a ploy for them to try ans continue to say that Caylee was a missing child and was murdered by her nanny....:sneaky:

[need2no]

:ohmy: I didn't notice her when I first looked through the gallery. She's not the dominate one in the picture, lmao. Bet that chaps her hide. These pics will not go in the 'media file'. Nobody puts Cindy in the corner.:wink:

:smile: you betcha, only front and center for Cindy.

Maybe she will do some cropping of the pic before she posts it on 'her' web page.

[Barbara fl.]

:laugh: Joe Wilson


I might have to walk up to Cindy and say "aren't you the woman who's daughter murdered your granddaughter, when are they gonna have her murder trial, I don't want to miss that."



I think I would do the same....just to let them know that their daughter is NOT going to get away with this.....

[need2no]

No doubt about it, they think they are celebrities because their daughter is a murderer....I would be hiding my head in shame...

I aso think that all this is a ploy for them to try ans continue to say that Caylee was a missing child and was murdered by her nanny....:sneaky:

ITA.

Could be, their actions are so off the chart of norm it's hard to make sense of what they do, or why they do it.

Can you imagine all the pics they will have available for the upcoming books.

[Barbara fl.]

I also heard on the news that PI Casey was caught in a lie and that it will take the defense down a notch (like they can afford that)....I do not understand the media, everyone already knew he was lying....He made two different statements on record contradicting himself...as to who hired him...

It's obvious that he was sent to that spot by Cindy or Lee, becase they knew right where Caylee's remains were (or at least the very vacinity).....

[Jeepers]

I wouldn't add him to the good guy list, but there's also Larry Garrison who crossed Cindy and was out of there.

Yes, I forgot about him. Not a good guy I agree but, he did make Cindy's Top Ten Hit list.
Don't mess with Cindy's money. That is Rule #1

[penguinlady]

http://www.wftv.com/news/20907568/detail.html

Anthonys' P.I. Accused Of Lying On Stand

It says in this article...

Also, 2,000 pages of criminal discovery are expected to be released sometime after next week.

Probably on Friday again...I only work for 2 hours on Fridays! Very difficult for me to find computer time at home.... :cursing:

[Barbara fl.]

I do too...but how will it backfire??? What will happen if they don't have this evidence they say they have??? Will there be any consequences???


It will just prove that they lied....and if they do have such evidence and refuse to show it now then they can forget about using it later...

But we all know that is a lie....if they had such evidence, why is Casey still in jail?.....They have nothing at all, they are pulling straws for a defense....

[need2no]

http://www.wftv.com/news/20907568/detail.html

Anthonys' P.I. Accused Of Lying On Stand

It says in this article...

Also, 2,000 pages of criminal discovery are expected to be released sometime after next week.

Thanks for the link! :thumbsup:

I wish they would give us a hint about what's in the dioc dump.

[msgatorslayer]

http://www.wftv.com/news/20907568/detail.html

Anthonys' P.I. Accused Of Lying On Stand

It says in this article...

Also, 2,000 pages of criminal discovery are expected to be released sometime after next week.

"Sometime after next week":confused:

Okay!

[cassidy]

They were there.

http://i27.tinypic.com/2lsb5hg.jpg

You have a good point. They take away the legitimacy of any event they attend since their daughter murdered her child. This is not the case with any of the other attendees.


It has to be very akward for the families who truly have missing children. To those who did the lie detectors and were closely scrutinized and quite possilbly "suspect" in their childrens disappearance. To those who answered every single question asked of them and opened their lives to LE in order to be eliminated as quickly as possible so the search could move on. The Anthony's did none of the above. They even pussyfooted abournd their daughter, the last known person to see Caylee alive. I have to wonder what the other families think about them and if they resent them being there.

JMO

[kelloggirl]

Yup, good ol' Dominic Casey has painted himself into a corner, all right, with his flip-flopping on his contractual end date with Baez.

Option 1: If he continues to stick with the "Everything I Do, I Do It For Baez" story, he links himself closer and reinforces the assumption that he was searching for the body with knowledge that could only come from the baby killer and/or her family, thus strengthening the position of the prosecutors. And likely making his alleged paramour, Cindy Anthony, furious.

Option 2: If he goes back to the October 1 date, first, he risks being held in contempt since he BLATANTLY LIED on the stand in front of the Judge and the Bible and all. Then he re-opens himself up to the investigation of his phone records, and the truth about the "psychic", which might lead right back to the Anthony's, and thus strengthen the case against Casey anyway. Plus, he'll have to take the stand and admit that he didn't search exactly where the body was anyway. If he doesn't continue to lie, which of course, is a strong possibility.

Either way, that little "Tip We Didn't Pass on to LE Though We Desperately Want to Find Our Grandddaughter, No Really, Unauthorized Ground-Poking Search Expedition" has backfired on the Anthony's and Their Nefarious Crew big time!

[Jeepers]

http://www.wftv.com/news/20907568/detail.html

Anthonys' P.I. Accused Of Lying On Stand

It says in this article...

Also, 2,000 pages of criminal discovery are expected to be released sometime after next week.

I love the State. Everytime it seems "without haste" the State always upstages them with more Documents to be released to the public.
One would think Baez & Co. would have learned by now to keep their Pie Holes shut so the state would not be so eager to let the public in on the real story.

[penguinlady]

Very interesting the way you put this...and you are right....I sent an E-mail questioning The cayle foundation and why I, as an eager donor, trying to find some way to lower my taxes, would give to her foundation..Funny how she says that this is not about Casey...probably wrote her off at this point....below is my e-mail...only name and address have been changed..


From:cma@cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net

Not sure what on-line resources to which you are referring but our website mission statement clearly identifies the intentions of the foundation. Despite all the BS in the media and the blogs, we are very honest people. This foundation is very important to us by honoring Caylee and assisting others. Check out the recent updates on our Caylee Bear program. The decision is yours, but you will not see a disclaimer on the website about Casey because its not about her. Sincerely, Cindy Anthony


**SNIPPED FOR SPACE!**

*** and ********* *******

Cindy is just sooo polite! I am sure that there are other ways that she could have phrased her answer... :angry:

[need2no]

Very interesting the way you put this...and you are right....I sent an E-mail questioning The cayle foundation and why I, as an eager donor, trying to find some way to lower my taxes, would give to her foundation..Funny how she says that this is not about Casey...probably wrote her off at this point....below is my e-mail...only name and address have been changed..


From:cma@cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net

Not sure what on-line resources to which you are referring but our website mission statement clearly identifies the intentions of the foundation. Despite all the BS in the media and the blogs, we are very honest people. This foundation is very important to us by honoring Caylee and assisting others. Check out the recent updates on our Caylee Bear program. The decision is yours, but you will not see a disclaimer on the website about Casey because its not about her. Sincerely, Cindy Anthony


On Sun Jun 28 18:53 , Mr and Mrs ****** ********sent:



My wife and I would like to make a donation to an organization that helps missing children. Obviously, your foundation is at the fore-front in the media and print news lately, which is why it caught our eye.

We are in the position to make a rather large donation for our own tax purposes, but we do not want our money going to a foundation that is not what it is advertised to be.

I searched your website and checked on-line resources, but I do not see a disclaimer that NO monies collected will be used for the defense of the daughter Casey. This is a paramount condition for both of us and we need a reply from the foundation stating this or we will be forced to explore other avenues for our monies.

The other reply we need is to the amount of total donations accepted versus administration fees. This is important to us to "weed" out any charities that are using monies to benefit themselves and not the children.

Please reply via E-Mail

Thank you for your time

*** and ********* *******



Way to go Mac, great letter! :thumbsup:

The first thing that jumped out at me was "we are very HONEST people", :lol:, and the second being she didn't flat out deny that some of the funds would indeed go to casey's defense. A little play on words and diversion with the bear comments.

Amazing........

[msgatorslayer]

Cindy could do a *disclaimer* w/o mentioning Casey. Very simple! IMO

[marinewife5]

No disclaimer huh???

Then tries to make it sound like it's about Caylee???
Then put the disclaimer on there!!!

ITA. I"m not a professional PR spokesperson, but is BS the term she should have used?

jmo

[phylcore]

Looks like Cindy just to the right and behind the guy wearing the Caylee shirt...

[Jeepers]

It has to be very akward for the families who truly have missing children. To those who did the lie detectors and were closely scrutinized and quite possilbly "suspect" in their childrens disappearance. To those who answered every single question asked of them and opened their lives to LE in order to be eliminated as quickly as possible so the search could move on. The Anthony's did none of the above. They even pussyfooted abournd their daughter, the last known person to see Caylee alive. I have to wonder what the other families think about them and if they resent them being there.

JMO

I would not want my picture being taken while the A's were close by. I would not want my name and image associated with them.
I would not want them there. These people are truly hurting and missing their children.. The A's have all of their children accounted for.
The A's have the answers to all their questions
Their granddaughter's killer is in jail
They know who did it
They know when it happened
They know why it happened
They know where it happened
The other parents are left to wonder. I feel so bad for these parents.
Knowing that they tried to do everything right working with LE and they still do not know what happened to their children.

The A's do not have any business at these events. I hope that as time goes on the media totally ignores their presence in public.
Except when they are making total arses out of themselves. I like seeing Cindy and George looking totally disgusted and beaten down.

[msgatorslayer]

For anyone who cares to listen to Cindy talking about DNA testing you can listen to the news LIVE. She should be on between 10:30 and 10:40. IIRC, She was on around 38 after the hour. {24 hr news station that repeats, all day}

http://www.baynews9.com/BN9_Work.html

[need2no]

ITA. I"m not a professional PR spokesperson, but is BS the term she should have used?

jmo

:smile: hardly, but we have to remember she has been taught by the best of the best...the Milsteads and Michelle Bart.

[KittyMom]

ITA. I"m not a professional PR spokesperson, but is BS the term she should have used?

jmo

You don't have to be a PR person to know that answer. With all the junk they have stuffed in that house, you'd think she'd have a thesaurus. :rolleyes:

[Jeepers]

ITA. I"m not a professional PR spokesperson, but is BS the term she should have used?

jmo

BS is the best term Cindy could use. Because in a backward kinda way that is her sublimal conscience telling her that her foundation is BS and nothing about it benefits anyone except the A's
When the A's Lie they always tell the truth. jmo

[Jeepers]

Yup...I sent a copy to Wonder woman and the folks at WESH......no response.

That was a great inquiry you made into the CasE (Caylee) Foundation.
Thank you Mac for sharing.

[need2no]

Yup...I sent a copy to Wonder woman and the folks at WESH......no response.

That's ok, I bet Wonder Woman has it in her file and will pull it out when the timing is right. Again...way to go Mac, keep up the good work.

Hey... maybe Kathi will write a book some day, and your letter will be included. Who knows.

[need2no]

BS is the best term Cindy could use. Because in a backward kinda way that is her sublimal conscience telling her that her foundation is BS and nothing about it benefits anyone except the A's
When the A's Lie they always tell the truth. jmo

Makes sense to me, a family trait.

Poor Shirley, don't you know she wants to crawl in a hole everytime she sees or reads about one of Cindy's antics.

[Jeepers]

Why wear their "Missing Caylee" shirts.......why not make some new ones that say "Murdered Caylee" Would be more appropriate me thinks

You know that Murdered Children are not profitable. Their coffers would never see another cryin dime.

I however do think they could have made a fourtune if they had told the truth about Case. They could have done the right thing and could have been very effective speakers to inform the public of how murder in your own family could have been prevented, signs to look for etc. But that would have caused them to be active, hands on parents/grandparents. They just choose to take the Low Road! to them I guess easier to look the other way. jmo

[Jeepers]

Makes sense to me, a family trait.

Poor Shirley, don't you know she wants to crawl in a hole everytime she sees or reads about one of Cindy's antics.

That is the sad part. There are many of their family members that know the truth and are willing to stand up for Caylee. They really are embarassing to the rest of family.

[need2no]

Now that is a book that I would buy

Me too, and I hope she is currently working on it. I betcha she is privy to all kinds of juicy behind the scenes tid bits that has not been made public for one reason or the other.

[Dells]

Can you believe that Roy Brown, whose daughter has been missing since 1998 is wearing a t-shirt with Caylee's picture dominate on it? I wonder if G & C were giving them out?

(On the right of the article.)

No I can't. I'm sorry, but to me it is an insult to people who truly do have missing children and want to see the person responsible for that crime brought to justice. The Anthony's are using their granddaughter as a pawn to try to get their murderous daughter off scott free from murdering her.:sneaky: Truly shameful, despicable, and deplorable on every level.:thumbdown: The Anthony's know no shame.

Good morning, everyone! I wonder when we will get Judge Strickland's ruling on when the fraud trial can begin. I also wonder when we will start to see some motions from AL. After all, it is after Labor Day.

[need2no]

That is the sad part. There are many of their family members that know the truth and are willing to stand up for Caylee. They really are embarassing to the rest of family.

I know it would be hard on Shirley at her age, especially trying to keep up with the daily visits to see her hubby, but I hope she will show up at the trial at least once or twice and sit behind the prosecution to support Caylee. If I could I would go drive her to court and hold her hand. Maybe her sister, or one of her sons will take her, and be there for her.

[snap4]

Very interesting the way you put this...and you are right....I sent an E-mail questioning The cayle foundation and why I, as an eager donor, trying to find some way to lower my taxes, would give to her foundation..Funny how she says that this is not about Casey...probably wrote her off at this point....below is my e-mail...only name and address have been changed..


From:cma@cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net

Not sure what on-line resources to which you are referring but our website mission statement clearly identifies the intentions of the foundation. Despite all the BS in the media and the blogs, we are very honest people. This foundation is very important to us by honoring Caylee and assisting others. Check out the recent updates on our Caylee Bear program. The decision is yours, but you will not see a disclaimer on the website about Casey because its not about her. Sincerely, Cindy Anthony


On Sun Jun 28 18:53 , Mr and Mrs ****** ********sent:



My wife and I would like to make a donation to an organization that helps missing children. Obviously, your foundation is at the fore-front in the media and print news lately, which is why it caught our eye.

We are in the position to make a rather large donation for our own tax purposes, but we do not want our money going to a foundation that is not what it is advertised to be.

I searched your website and checked on-line resources, but I do not see a disclaimer that NO monies collected will be used for the defense of the daughter Casey. This is a paramount condition for both of us and we need a reply from the foundation stating this or we will be forced to explore other avenues for our monies.

The other reply we need is to the amount of total donations accepted versus administration fees. This is important to us to "weed" out any charities that are using monies to benefit themselves and not the children.

Please reply via E-Mail

Thank you for your time

*** and ********* *******

Bolded your part I wanted to comment on....notice she completely avoided this all together!! No comment at all. So where does the monies go? How are the donations applied and to whom?

imo

[Jeepers]

No prob.....but when Cindy sees the letter here.....I bet she deletes me off of her donaters list!!!!

Yeah, your gonna make her Top Ten Hit List that keeps growing. I am thinking that since you wrote an inquiry maybe others did too and with that being said, the uniformed public (people not following this case so close) would be wary of donating to a charity that is not representing itself correctly and that no one would be scammed. Here's to hopinbg that may Kathy B would do a report on Charities that are not on the up and up because of your inquiry into the Caylee Foundation.

Fortune Cookie says" Be wary of peeps that start their sentences off with:
We Are Honest People
Ok, I will be Honest with you
Ok, I will tell you the Truth

[Jeepers]

I know it would be hard on Shirley at her age, especially trying to keep up with the daily visits to see her hubby, but I hope she will show up at the trial at least once or twice and sit behind the prosecution to support Caylee. If I could I would go drive her to court and hold her hand. Maybe her sister, or one of her sons will take her, and be there for her.

What a sweet thought.
I think Rick will be there for her and Caylee. He was really put out by Cindy.

[Barbara fl.]

:laugh: I can't believe this news woman came right out and said the prosecutors were laughing at the defense team.
I like this lady, Kathy.
She said it so nonchalant.:laugh:
I guess it is what it is. She sees it, she tells it.



Wait till the trial when all the other lies come out...that's when the lies will be coming from every angle possible...seems that not only are her prents putting nails in Casey's coffin but so is the defense.....

This will not make for a movie...it will have to be a series....

[Dells]

Good morning.

The Anthony's intend for their new 'careers' to be in assisting families with searches for missing children. Apparently this can be quite lucrative. This endeavor produces donations from the public to help with expenses to find the missing. The longer a child is missing, likely the more donations roll in if the case is kept in the media. A foundation for murdered children at best might collect meager donations to help pay funeral expenses for families in need, and would not involve boats, free travel to various talk shows where they would be put up in nice hotels and have their meals paid for, public speaking engagements, or constant attention from the media, etc.

It appears the Anthony's love being in the public eye and are enjoying the attention from the media and their countless photo ops.

Considering the circumstances of Caylee's death, their actions are shameful to say the least.

IMO

Bolding mine....

I so agree w/you. I just wonder how these parents that really do have missing children feel about The Anthony's being involved in these types of events where The Anthony's are trying to pass Caylee off as a true missing child that was abducted/murdered by a stranger? Do The Anthony's even care how these other families perceive them? Do they care if they are even causing them more pain an anguish than they have already experienced? All the other parents/families at these events want their child/children to brought home and the person responsible for their disappearance and/or murder brought to justice. Not The Anthony's. They are covering up and lying for the person that holds all the answers as to what really happened to Caylee. As usual, The Anthony's only care about themselves. Truly shameful.:thumbdown:

[Dells]

I do too...but how will it backfire??? What will happen if they don't have this evidence they say they have??? Will there be any consequences???

Bolding mine.....

I truly hope so.

[Scampi]

Yup, good ol' Dominic Casey has painted himself into a corner, all right, with his flip-flopping on his contractual end date with Baez.

Option 1: If he continues to stick with the "Everything I Do, I Do It For Baez" story, he links himself closer and reinforces the assumption that he was searching for the body with knowledge that could only come from the baby killer and/or her family, thus strengthening the position of the prosecutors. And likely making his alleged paramour, Cindy Anthony, furious.

Option 2: If he goes back to the October 1 date, first, he risks being held in contempt since he BLATANTLY LIED on the stand in front of the Judge and the Bible and all. Then he re-opens himself up to the investigation of his phone records, and the truth about the "psychic", which might lead right back to the Anthony's, and thus strengthen the case against Casey anyway. Plus, he'll have to take the stand and admit that he didn't search exactly where the body was anyway. If he doesn't continue to lie, which of course, is a strong possibility.

Either way, that little "Tip We Didn't Pass on to LE Though We Desperately Want to Find Our Grandddaughter, No Really, Unauthorized Ground-Poking Search Expedition" has backfired on the Anthony's and Their Nefarious Crew big time!

Excellent analysis of the quandry they find themselves in Kellog, and they did it all themselves. :thumbsup:

BTW, where is lyons motion to dismiss the death penalty in this case? I thought she promised it right after Labor Day. Could it be with the release of additional evidence she has had her "uh, oh" moment?

IMO, all this defense team is going to be able to do is attempt to rearrange the deck chairs on this Titanic of a case.


:laugh:

[Barbara fl.]

I know it would be hard on Shirley at her age, especially trying to keep up with the daily visits to see her hubby, but I hope she will show up at the trial at least once or twice and sit behind the prosecution to support Caylee. If I could I would go drive her to court and hold her hand. Maybe her sister, or one of her sons will take her, and be there for her.


That would be nice to do...but Cindy would probably carry on....For some strange reason (:rolleyes:) the Anthony's do not want anyone on Caylee's side.....I do believe they have completely put Caylee out of their minds...It's going to be like Casey is being charged for killing a stranger.....


Sad, very sad....

[Jeepers]

For anyone who cares to listen to Cindy talking about DNA testing you can listen to the news LIVE. She should be on between 10:30 and 10:40. IIRC, She was on around 38 after the hour. {24 hr news station that repeats, all day}

http://www.baynews9.com/BN9_Work.html

I love it! Let's see give LE wrong toothbrush, hairbrush, even laughed and said she should have given them the dog's brush!
She is an authority on DNA isn't she.

[neid_77]

I love it! Let's see give LE wrong toothbrush, hairbrush, even laughed and said she should have given them the dog's brush!
She is an authority on DNA isn't she.

yes it is quite laughable isn't it just like her unfairly and wrongly accussed duaghter in jail reading up on the law books, becoming experts off Caylee whom the have disrespected to levels beyond human comprehension!:cursing:

[Dells]

Promise of Money???

I don't know, but I always follow the money trial...just a quirk I have.

So true. It is also possible that he is in w/the Anthony's so deep that he feels that he has tow the company line lest he get thrown under the bus by Casey's defense team at trial. I don't feel sorry for him. It's his fault for getting involved w/the likes of The Anthony's in the first place. I hope his deplorable behavior in this case ruins his career as a PI. I certainly would never trust him enough to want to do business w/him. Once a liar, always a liar. What was he thinking? The Anthony's, Casey, and Casey's defense team wasn't worth risking his livelihood.

[Scampi]

Nice going Mac, I bet you have cindy salivating at the mention of a large donation.

But seriously, does anyone think cindy wrote that email? The woman who annoyed us no end with her phrase: all I want is to know where Caylee's at

I keep hoping that our friend Kathy Belich is going to do an investigative report on this anthony foundation and its money.

[Dells]

No doubt about it, they think they are celebrities because their daughter is a murderer....I would be hiding my head in shame...

I aso think that all this is a ploy for them to try ans continue to say that Caylee was a missing child and was murdered by her nanny....:sneaky:

Bolding mine....

Yep! I think so also. They probably think they are helping Casey's defense by going to these types of events. I truly don't think they really care about other missing children or helping other families through the process. All they care about is getting Casey off the hook for murdering their granddaughter.

[need2no]

Bolded your part I wanted to comment on....notice she completely avoided this all together!! No comment at all. So where does the monies go? How are the donations applied and to whom?
imo

my bold

Mortgage company, utilities, car payments, gas, insurance, groceries, etc. Of course these expenses can be justified. The foundation directors must have a roof over their heads with electricity, vehicles and gas to get them to events, food to sustain themselves and so on.......

:rolleyes:

[Barbara fl.]

So true. It is also possible that he is in w/the Anthony's so deep that he feels that he has tow the company line lest he get thrown under the bus by Casey's defense team at trial. I don't feel sorry for him. It's his fault for getting involved w/the likes of The Anthony's in the first place. I hope his deplorable behavior in this case ruins his career as a PI. I certainly would never trust him enough to want to do business w/him. Once a liar, always a liar. What was he thinking? The Anthony's, Casey, and Casey's defense team wasn't worth risking his livelihood.


His credibility is shot....and with it went Baez, LKB, Macaluso and the rest of the team...and it nailed the final nail in Casey's coffin..

It proves that the defense knew about Caylee and knew where she was and had to have gotten this information from Casey.....

[Scampi]

I love it! Let's see give LE wrong toothbrush, hairbrush, even laughed and said she should have given them the dog's brush!
She is an authority on DNA isn't she.

Oh what I would give if the interviewer would throw that in her face when she starts yakking about dna.

[Dells]

http://www.wftv.com/news/20907568/detail.html

Anthonys' P.I. Accused Of Lying On Stand

It says in this article...

Also, 2,000 pages of criminal discovery are expected to be released sometime after next week.

Bolding mine....

Thanks so much for the link! :seeya:

Woohoo! We have another doc dump to look forward to!:w00t:

I wonder how DC likes seeing all the headlines about him lying on the stand at the last hearing? One way or the other The Anthony's always manage to take down everyone around them. Of course it was DC's choice to go on the stand and lie so he has nobody to blame but himself. I wonder why he is willing to do this for The Anthony's and Casey? They are so not worth it. At least Hoover told LE what he knew and then got the heck out of there.

[Barbara fl.]

my bold

Mortgage company, utilities, car payments, gas, insurance, groceries, etc. Of course these expenses can be justified. The foundation directors must have a roof over their heads with electricity, vehicles and gas to get them to events, food to sustain themselves and so on.......

:rolleyes:


Your are right...They call it overhead expenses...they take it off the top and then (with the Anthony's) the balance of maybe one cent on a dollar (if that much) will go to whatever, to make it look like they are using the money appropriately...What a crock....

[need2no]

That would be nice to do...but Cindy would probably carry on....For some strange reason (:rolleyes:) the Anthony's do not want anyone on Caylee's side.....I do believe they have completely put Caylee out of their minds...It's going to be like Casey is being charged for killing a stranger.....


Sad, very sad....



Reminds me of a poster's sig line....they drew straws, Caylee lost, or something like that. :angry::sad:

[snap4]

my bold

Mortgage company, utilities, car payments, gas, insurance, groceries, etc. Of course these expenses can be justified. The foundation directors must have a roof over their heads with electricity, vehicles and gas to get them to events, food to sustain themselves and so on.......

:rolleyes:

Don't forget tanning lotion while out on the Extreme boat so that they look good for photo ops.:tonguewag:

[Dells]

It will just prove that they lied....and if they do have such evidence and refuse to show it now then they can forget about using it later...

But we all know that is a lie....if they had such evidence, why is Casey still in jail?.....They have nothing at all, they are pulling straws for a defense....

I so agree w/you. The defense is grasping at straws because they've got nothing else. It is one thing to go to the media and give press conferences and interviews spouting Casey's innocence, but it is another to say those same types of things in a court of law. I hope there are some consequences for them.

[jakee]

Oh what I would give if the interviewer would throw that in her face when she starts yakking about dna.

Yes. That sure would be interesting to hear what Cindy's response would be.

[Barbara fl.]

yes it is quite laughable isn't it just like her unfairly and wrongly accussed duaghter in jail reading up on the law books, becoming experts off Caylee whom the have disrespected to levels beyond human comprehension!:cursing:


They probably want to kiss Casey for finally making something of herself...and in doing so, made them rich....Gee, just when they were giving up on Casey....she turns around and makes them all famous...too bad her daughter is not around to share some of the fame and wealth.....Oh, but then again, if Caylee was still around, they would still be behind in all their bills....:cursing:

[Scampi]

His credibility is shot....and with it went Baez, LKB, Macaluso and the rest of the team...and it nailed the final nail in Casey's coffin..

It proves that the defense knew about Caylee and knew where she was and had to have gotten this information from Casey.....


We knew jose was aware of where Caylee was way back in the beginning when he sent that letter to the prosecution begging for immunity, then denied he ever broached that subject causing the Prosecution to release the emails.

jose is one of the most incompetent attorneys I have ever observed and if this defendant gets sentenced to death, she only has her own attorney to blame.

Had she had a public defender, I truly believe a plea could have been gotten and her life would have been saved.

I fully expect george and cindy to turn on jose as soon as their daughter is given the death penalty.

[need2no]

Why wear their "Missing Caylee" shirts.......why not make some new ones that say "Murdered Caylee" Would be more appropriate me thinks

True dat...but how about something more subtle and acceptable like: Gone too soon.

[cassidy]

We knew jose was aware of where Caylee was way back in the beginning when he sent that letter to the prosecution begging for immunity, then denied he ever broached that subject causing the Prosecution to release the emails.

jose is one of the most incompetent attorneys I have ever observed and if this defendant gets sentenced to death, she only has her own attorney to blame.

Had she had a public defender, I truly believe a plea could have been gotten and her life would have been saved.

I fully expect george and cindy to turn on jose as soon as their daughter is given the death penalty.


I think Jose is going to turn on them 1st.

[Scampi]

I think Jose is going to turn on them 1st.

Ah, good point Cass!:thumbup:

[Barbara fl.]

We knew jose was aware of where Caylee was way back in the beginning when he sent that letter to the prosecution begging for immunity, then denied he ever broached that subject causing the Prosecution to release the emails.

jose is one of the most incompetent attorneys I have ever observed and if this defendant gets sentenced to death, she only has her own attorney to blame.

Had she had a public defender, I truly believe a plea could have been gotten and her life would have been saved.

I fully expect george and cindy to turn on jose as soon as their daughter is given the death penalty.


That's what I am afraid of....There probably is an attorney right now, sitting back and counting all the mistakes that this defense team is making, so that Casey and family can work on an appeal....

[Jeepers]

my bold

Mortgage company, utilities, car payments, gas, insurance, groceries, etc. Of course these expenses can be justified. The foundation directors must have a roof over their heads with electricity, vehicles and gas to get them to events, food to sustain themselves and so on.......

:rolleyes:

They do have a roof, electricity and gas and food etc. They call themselves working out of their home and the expenses and office space they can write it all off on their taxes.
They have been taught well how to run a foundation by Kinfinders.

[Scampi]

That's what I am afraid of....There probably is an attorney right now, sitting back and counting all the mistakes that this defense team is making, so that Casey and family can work on an appeal....

I'd be right there with you Barb, if not for LYON. Hiring her for this trial, ensures this accused babykiller of an excellent defense and imo an appeal proof sentence. Not that an appeal won't be filed, it's automatic that one will, but I doubt any will be successful.

[Jeepers]

They probably want to kiss Casey for finally making something of herself...and in doing so, made them rich....Gee, just when they were giving up on Casey....she turns around and makes them all famous...too bad her daughter is not around to share some of the fame and wealth.....Oh, but then again, if Caylee was still around, they would still be behind in all their bills....:cursing:

Remember George, He told Casey, Its like you are the Boss of a large corporation. You are in charge.
Casey has emerged quiet the CEO has'nt she. I just knew in her eight grade yearbook where all of her friends wrote "most likely to ...." well Casey did not let anyone down. She did it. All by herself, She did it.
George and Cindy must be so Proud.

[need2no]

All this talk about Dom and what he knew, and how he knew it reminds me this could have turned out quite differently if the Judge would have approved this little adventure:

Casey Anthony Now Wants to Search Privately for Missing Caylee Anthony & Have Freedom of Travel

After all this time stone walling and lying to police Casey Anthony wants to search for her missing daughter. Suddenly Casey Anthony is not afraid to search for Caylee.
Caylee Anthony has been missing since June 9, 2008. Caylee was not reported missing by her grandmother, Cindy Anthony, until July 16, 2008.
Now some four months after Caylee Anthony initially disappeared, the mother Casey Anthony wants to search privately for her daughter and have freedom of travel to do so.

Casey Anthony’s attorneys want a judge to approve a request that would allow them to take their client to places “of interest” so she can help look for her missing daughter, Caylee. They want to be able to do it in private and without public knowledge. Right now, Casey is under home confinement and must obtain permission from the county jail to travel. Such requests are public record.


Now tell me Baez didn't know Caylee's general location, and that this request wasn't ludicrous.

[Dells]

:laugh: I can't believe this news woman came right out and said the prosecutors were laughing at the defense team.
I like this lady, Kathy.
She said it so nonchalant.:laugh:
I guess it is what it is. She sees it, she tells it.

I love Kathi too! She reports it like she sees it and she is not afraid to report the truth.

[Jeepers]

Don't forget bottled water and gum...:biggrin:

I believe that would fall under Stock Options.

[summer]

So true. It is also possible that he is in w/the Anthony's so deep that he feels that he has tow the company line lest he get thrown under the bus by Casey's defense team at trial. I don't feel sorry for him. It's his fault for getting involved w/the likes of The Anthony's in the first place. I hope his deplorable behavior in this case ruins his career as a PI. I certainly would never trust him enough to want to do business w/him. Once a liar, always a liar. What was he thinking? The Anthony's, Casey, and Casey's defense team wasn't worth risking his livelihood.

Hi Dells, I don't feel sorry for him either. I have no idea what kind of person he was before he hooked up with the A's but I'm guessing... not such a great guy.

Here's a thought. Maybe the whole search and poke scheme was his brainchild in the first place. Not that the A's didn't LOVE the idea but... who led who here? :scared:

[Dells]

We knew jose was aware of where Caylee was way back in the beginning when he sent that letter to the prosecution begging for immunity, then denied he ever broached that subject causing the Prosecution to release the emails.

jose is one of the most incompetent attorneys I have ever observed and if this defendant gets sentenced to death, she only has her own attorney to blame.

Had she had a public defender, I truly believe a plea could have been gotten and her life would have been saved.

I fully expect george and cindy to turn on jose as soon as their daughter is given the death penalty.

Bolding mine....

I so agree w/you. If Casey does get the DP, she has JB to thank for that. He messed up w/the way he handled this case from the very beginning. It never should have gone this far. They should have been doing everything in their power to work out a deal w/the prosecution before Caylee's body was found. They had to know Caylee would be found. It was not like Casey hid her very well.

[need2no]

Yeah, your gonna make her Top Ten Hit List that keeps growing. I am thinking that since you wrote an inquiry maybe others did too and with that being said, the uniformed public (people not following this case so close) would be wary of donating to a charity that is not representing itself correctly and that no one would be scammed. Here's to hopinbg that may Kathy B would do a report on Charities that are not on the up and up because of your inquiry into the Caylee Foundation.

Fortune Cookie says" Be wary of peeps that start their sentences off with:
We Are Honest People
Ok, I will be Honest with you
Ok, I will tell you the Truth

I'm guessing if people are foolish enough to send commissary money to casey, some will also be fooled by the A's fundation and make donations. :cursing:

Let me add one more of my personal favorites to your list...
I'm being very straight with you guys.

[bchand]

How do I find this after the fact???

Email -

http://www.wftv.com/news/18145599/detail.html

Article about it -

http://www.zimbio.com/Caylee+Anthony/articles/226/FBI+Investigating+Email+Land+Cindy+Anthony

[summer4meplz]

We knew jose was aware of where Caylee was way back in the beginning when he sent that letter to the prosecution begging for immunity, then denied he ever broached that subject causing the Prosecution to release the emails.

jose is one of the most incompetent attorneys I have ever observed and if this defendant gets sentenced to death, she only has her own attorney to blame.

Had she had a public defender, I truly believe a plea could have been gotten and her life would have been saved.

I fully expect george and cindy to turn on jose as soon as their daughter is given the death penalty.

Hi Scampi and everyone......let's not forgot jose asking the court to let casey out so he and casey could go look for Caylee without anyone watching them.....

[Jeepers]

Email -

http://www.wftv.com/news/18145599/detail.html

Article about it -

http://www.zimbio.com/Caylee+Anthony/articles/226/FBI+Investigating+Email+Land+Cindy+Anthony

Thank you for the find. I was thinking that there was also a video of this being talked about and it mentions the the dog brush. Am I wrong?

[summer]

Thank you for the find. I was thinking that there was also a video of this being talked about and it mentions the the dog brush. Am I wrong?

IIRC the hairbrush came from Garrison and the toothbrush came from something that was relayed to Leonard Padilla. Think I remember his mentioning it on NG... Cindy saying she should've given LE the dog's toothbrush when they asked for Caylees... conveying her total lack of help in the investigation to the point of wanting to thwart it.

[Barbara fl.]

Hi Scampi and everyone......let's not forgot jose asking the court to let casey out so he and casey could go look for Caylee without anyone watching them.....


Ah, so right....I forgot about that...It was shortly after that, that the PI came on the scene...They all knew all the time where Caylee was and they were hoping aginst hope to find the body and hide it...They knew without a body, would be the only chance for Casey...and Baez was probably thinking of the fame he could get from getting Casey off...Finding the body blew all their defense away...

The PI will lose either way...if he tells the truth, his career as a PI is down the drain...If he lies on the stand, his credibility is shot.....That is why none of tem waited for the results to see if the body was infact Caylee....they knew it was...That is also why Cindy, George and Lee were able to go out for dinner upon finding out that a body was found (thy knew all along, Caylee was dead) so it was no surprise to them.....


They will all rot in hell....

[kelloggirl]

Excellent analysis of the quandry they find themselves in Kellog, and they did it all themselves. :thumbsup:

BTW, where is lyons motion to dismiss the death penalty in this case? I thought she promised it right after Labor Day. Could it be with the release of additional evidence she has had her "uh, oh" moment?

IMO, all this defense team is going to be able to do is attempt to rearrange the deck chairs on this Titanic of a case.


:laugh:

Thanks Scampi! So true about this Titanic case. I'm picturing Baez, LKB, Lyon, and Macaluso as the quartet who played on even as the ship was sinking. I wonder if Baez knows how to play the violin? Or maybe he'll be playing the maracas as the ship goes down, lest we forget his hispanic heritage!

[Jeepers]

IIRC the hairbrush came from Garrison and the toothbrush came from something that was relayed to Leonard Padilla. Think I remember his mentioning it on NG... Cindy saying she should've given LE the dog's toothbrush when they asked for Caylees... conveying her total lack of help in the investigation to the point of wanting to thwart it.

Thank you again. They A's have done so much damage to this case.
I really wonder what was really in that Pontiac Sunfire?

[Barbara fl.]

Remember George, He told Casey, Its like you are the Boss of a large corporation. You are in charge.
Casey has emerged quiet the CEO has'nt she. I just knew in her eight grade yearbook where all of her friends wrote "most likely to ...." well Casey did not let anyone down. She did it. All by herself, She did it.
George and Cindy must be so Proud.

She's in a large corporation alright (jail), I sure wish she would try and exercize her CEO powers...

Can't wait til she gets to the BIG HOUSE.....

[Bala]

I agree...George and Cindy will turn on Baez

They need to really work on their credibility...hence the ABC guy they bring to court with them.....what a joke
They all ready have started by telling everyone about the mail and Jose.

[summer]

Ah, so right....I forgot about that...It was shortly after that, that the PI came on the scene...They all knew all the time where Caylee was and they were hoping aginst hope to find the body and hide it...They knew without a body, would be the only chance for Casey...and Baez was probably thinking of the fame he could get from getting Casey off...Finding the body blew all their defense away...

The PI will lose either way...if he tells the truth, his career as a PI is down the drain...If he lies on the stand, his credibility is shot.....That is why none of tem waited for the results to see if the body was infact Caylee....they knew it was...That is also why Cindy, George and Lee were able to go out for dinner upon finding out that a body was found (thy knew all along, Caylee was dead) so it was no surprise to them.....


They will all rot in hell....

ITA Barb, if anyone had a shred of doubt before crab puff night that put it to rest. Nobody... NOBODY goes out for dinner with the media and chows down when their grandbaby's little bones are being picked out of the dirt. There's no way to spin that. Horrible people.

[bchand]

Thank you for the find. I was thinking that there was also a video of this being talked about and it mentions the the dog brush. Am I wrong?

Yes I think it came from Tracy via Lenny. I'm looking for that now.

[summer]

Thank you again. They A's have done so much damage to this case.
I really wonder what was really in that Pontiac Sunfire?

I don't think we'll ever find out. Everyone in this story is covering for everyone else because everyone has dirt on the other. Sleaze on top of sleaze. Infuriating.

I hope DC gets nailed asap so the A's can see what's coming up for them.

[summer]

Yes I think it came from Tracy via Lenny. I'm looking for that now.

That's exactly what I remember. It's odd that tidbit wasn't in Tracy's interview though, huh. Maybe she told Lenny after she spoke with LE, not necessarily to hide it just that it slipped her mind?

[Explorer]

IIRC the hairbrush came from Garrison and the toothbrush came from something that was relayed to Leonard Padilla. Think I remember his mentioning it on NG... Cindy saying she should've given LE the dog's toothbrush when they asked for Caylees... conveying her total lack of help in the investigation to the point of wanting to thwart it.

If Cindys grandaughter was missing WHY would she give LE who was trying to find her The DOGS brush? Doesnt pass the smell test.

[summer]

If Cindys grandaughter was missing WHY would she give LE who was trying to find her The DOGS brush? Doesnt pass the smell test.

She didn't give LE the dog's toothbrush. She gave them Caylee's. She made the remark after the fact that she "shoulda given them the dog's..." in a snickering way to show how she felt about the people sincerely trying to find Caylee.

Why was Cindy trying to thwart the investigation? Three guesses.

[summer]

Why did Cindy give LE the wrong hairbrush, not the one exclusively used by Caylee either? She only had to walk a few more steps to get the one with better hair samples. Because she was NOT cooperating, that's why.

[bchand]

That's exactly what I remember. It's odd that tidbit wasn't in Tracy's interview though, huh. Maybe she told Lenny after she spoke with LE, not necessarily to hide it just that it slipped her mind?

That's what I thought too. I don't recall Tracy mentioning it in her interviews. So far though, Lenny hasn't lied (or been proven wrong) in his comments about what Tracy said so I tend to believe the story.


Re: Andrea Lyon's promised motions after Labor Day. We all keep thinking she said she would argue about the death penalty but I had to go search for something I thought I had read:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20604174/detail.html

Also, some time after Labor Day, Andrea Lyon from Casey Anthony's legal team will make her first major statement in the case.

It will come in the form of a motion arguing there is insufficient evidence to support a murder charge against Casey Anthony.

So even though a grand jury thought there was enough evidence for a murder charge, she doesn't? Am I understanding that correctly?

[need2no]

Kathi, where do these e-mails come from?

BELICH: Well, I`m not going to say where we got it. We got it from a source, a reliable source. We have tried to talked to Cindy Anthony about this. She`s not responded to our e-mail or our text messages. We`ve tried to speak with Larry Garrison about this, as well, and he`s not really responded to our questions about the e-mail. But we did get it from a reliable source, and we know that the FBI is investigating this. Larry Garrison said in his e-mail that he had reported this to the authorities, but we have yet to find anyone involved in the investigation who knew anything about this.

GRACE: Who is Larry? Who is Larry?

BELICH: Larry Garrison is the Los Angeles actor/author that served for a while for free as the Anthonys` spokesperson. You may remember...

GRACE: Right.

BELICH: ... a week or two ago, there was a falling out. He says the falling out actually is over this hairbrush issue.

GRACE: To Leonard Padilla, the bounty hunter out of Sacramento, California, that spent time within the Anthony home when bond was first made. Leonard, what do you make of this development? You know all of them better than any of us.

LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: Let me add fuel to the fire. Today, when I`m sitting there talking to Tracy about this development, she says, You know, that brings to mind something else. One day, Cindy walked in there and said, You know, when the FBI asked me for her toothbrush, I should have given them the brush that I use to brush the dog`s teeth. And Tracy says that George just about went into heart arrest, you know, like, Oh, my God, don`t be saying things like that. Now, I suggested that Tracy call the FBI first thing in the morning as a result of this development jogging her mind.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0811/25/ng.01.html

Aired November 25, 2008

[Dtviewer3]

She didn't give LE the dog's toothbrush. She gave them Caylee's. She made the remark after the fact that she "shoulda given them the dog's..." in a snickering way to show how she felt about the people sincerely trying to find Caylee.

Why was Cindy trying to thwart the investigation? Three guesses.


That one question sure speaks volumes in this case. So much can be read into it.

Cindy was trying to thwart the investigation because she knew Caylee was never 'missing'.
Cindy was trying to thwart the investigation because she knew Caylee was dead.
Cindy was trying to thwart the investigation because she knew Casey was responsible.
Cindy was trying to thwart the investigation because she knew LE knew Casey was responsible.
and on and on......

[summer]

That's what I thought too. I don't recall Tracy mentioning it in her interviews. So far though, Lenny hasn't lied (or been proven wrong) in his comments about what Tracy said so I tend to believe the story.


Re: Andrea Lyon's promised motions after Labor Day. We all keep thinking she said she would argue about the death penalty but I had to go search for something I thought I had read:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20604174/detail.html

Also, some time after Labor Day, Andrea Lyon from Casey Anthony's legal team will make her first major statement in the case.

It will come in the form of a motion arguing there is insufficient evidence to support a murder charge against Casey Anthony.

So even though a grand jury thought there was enough evidence for a murder charge, she doesn't? Am I understanding that correctly?

I remember the day of the press conference - the announcement that the grand jury went for a murder charge - and the LE spokesperson (can't remember his name, maybe he's the one who retired or maybe it was the SA?) apologized to the grand jury members saying he felt really badly for what they had to see and hear, indicating they might have been traumatized. And this was BEFORE they found the body. I'm thinking LE has an awful lot of terrible things to set before us when the time comes... Does anyone else remember this? Gave me chills.

[Jeepers]

She's in a large corporation alright (jail), I sure wish she would try and exercize her CEO powers...

Can't wait til she gets to the BIG HOUSE.....

Yep, I can hear George and Cindy now: "Oooh Look our Little Superstar got a promotion. Look, you can see her office when you look down from the guard tower".

[summer]

Yep, I can hear George and Cindy now: "Oooh Look our Little Superstar got a promotion. Look, you can see her office when you look down from the guard tower".

Too funny Jeepers. And possible too.

[Barbara fl.]

That's what I thought too. I don't recall Tracy mentioning it in her interviews. So far though, Lenny hasn't lied (or been proven wrong) in his comments about what Tracy said so I tend to believe the story.


Re: Andrea Lyon's promised motions after Labor Day. We all keep thinking she said she would argue about the death penalty but I had to go search for something I thought I had read:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20604174/detail.html

Also, some time after Labor Day, Andrea Lyon from Casey Anthony's legal team will make her first major statement in the case.

It will come in the form of a motion arguing there is insufficient evidence to support a murder charge against Casey Anthony.

So even though a grand jury thought there was enough evidence for a murder charge, she doesn't? Am I understanding that correctly?


I believe that AL is only trying to get the DP off the table...but it's not going to work....I take it that she is going to try and say that the evidence doesn't prove a heinous act to warrent the DP and that is where the tape will come in...

I guess AL and the rest feel that if they can get the DP off the table they would stand a better chance at winning this case...

But it not going to work....the state is not going to budge on this...jmo

[Jeepers]

That's exactly what I remember. It's odd that tidbit wasn't in Tracy's interview though, huh. Maybe she told Lenny after she spoke with LE, not necessarily to hide it just that it slipped her mind?

Listening to Tracy's interview the other day and remembering what Lenny has talked about in the past I don't think we heard everything yet from Tracy or Rob. jmo

The was a time that Casey was going to Baez's office one morning and they went a different route when the A's home I can't find it but I remember something about the way they left that morning. This was about the same time they were wanting to get permission for Casey to go riding alone. Does anyone remember that?

[penguinlady]

[**SNIPPED**

Fortune Cookie says" Be wary of peeps that start their sentences off with:
We Are Honest People
Ok, I will be Honest with you
Ok, I will tell you the Truth[/QUOTE]

Here is another one...

Ok, TRUST ME....

K!

[Barbara fl.]

Yep, I can hear George and Cindy now: "Oooh Look our Little Superstar got a promotion. Look, you can see her office when you look down from the guard tower".



Her 6 X 6 private office....with a private comode and all :lol: Just look at how they accomodate her...she doesn't even have to leave the room to go....

[bchand]

Listening to Tracy's interview the other day and remembering what Lenny has talked about in the past I don't think we heard everything yet from Tracy or Rob. jmo

The was a time that Casey was going to Baez's office one morning and they went a different route when the A's home I can't find it but I remember something about the way they left that morning. This was about the same time they were wanting to get permission for Casey to go riding alone. Does anyone remember that?

I don't but I do know that Tracy said "she" pretended to be Casey one time coming out of Baez's office. (Under an umbrella held by George with a towel over her head.)

So if that was Tracy- where was Casey?

[summer]

The way they gaze upon her in court, like she's there picking up her PhD in Physics and not on trial for the murder of her baby says it all right there... "a daughter any parent would be proud of!" (paraphrase) George Anthony.

[summer]

Listening to Tracy's interview the other day and remembering what Lenny has talked about in the past I don't think we heard everything yet from Tracy or Rob. jmo

The was a time that Casey was going to Baez's office one morning and they went a different route when the A's home I can't find it but I remember something about the way they left that morning. This was about the same time they were wanting to get permission for Casey to go riding alone. Does anyone remember that?

I don't recall that specific incident but nothing about those all day office visits seemed kosher to me.

[Barbara fl.]

That one question sure speaks volumes in this case. So much can be read into it.

Cindy was trying to thwart the investigation because she knew Caylee was never 'missing'.
Cindy was trying to thwart the investigation because she knew Caylee was dead.
Cindy was trying to thwart the investigation because she knew Casey was responsible.
Cindy was trying to thwart the investigation because she knew LE knew Casey was responsible.
and on and on......


I wonder if anyone told Cindy just how stupid she sounded when she said "If there is a dog there must be a Zanny".....:sneaky:

[Jeepers]

Too funny Jeepers. And possible too.

That is so sad! I make jokes and say things off the cuff a lot. I just hate it when young people mess up their life.
Caylee was such a pretty little princess. I feel that Casey has no regrets for what she did just that she got caught.

[need2no]

That's what I thought too. I don't recall Tracy mentioning it in her interviews. So far though, Lenny hasn't lied (or been proven wrong) in his comments about what Tracy said so I tend to believe the story.


Re: Andrea Lyon's promised motions after Labor Day. We all keep thinking she said she would argue about the death penalty but I had to go search for something I thought I had read:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20604174/detail.html

Also, some time after Labor Day, Andrea Lyon from Casey Anthony's legal team will make her first major statement in the case.

It will come in the form of a motion arguing there is insufficient evidence to support a murder charge against Casey Anthony.

So even though a grand jury thought there was enough evidence for a murder charge, she doesn't? Am I understanding that correctly?

Maybe now that Andrea has had time to 'study up' on the evidence agaisn't casey, she realizes this is mission impossible. :wink: J/K, she'd never admit it and remove herself from this case prior to the release of her book.

[SilentTears]

She's in a large corporation alright (jail), I sure wish she would try and exercize her CEO powers...

Can't wait til she gets to the BIG HOUSE.....

You mean corporate headquarters!

[Dells]

I believe that AL is only trying to get the DP off the table...but it's not going to work....I take it that she is going to try and say that the evidence doesn't prove a heinous act to warrent the DP and that is where the tape will come in...

I guess AL and the rest feel that if they can get the DP off the table they would stand a better chance at winning this case...

But it not going to work....the state is not going to budge on this...jmo

I agree w/you. I definitely don't think the defense will be successful if they file a motion saying that there is insufficient evidence to support a murder charge. The Grand Jury already indicted her. That ship has sailed. This case is going to trial, no way around that. I also don't think she will be successful in getting the DP off the table either. I truly don't think that the state would put it back on the table if they didn't really believe that it was warranted. Now, the jury may not recommend the DP for Casey, but they will be DP qualified and more apt to convict her. If Casey doesn't get the DP then she will get LWOP, which will still be a very appropriate and fitting punishment for murdering Caylee. It may even be worse for her because she won't get an automatic appeal and she won't stay in PC like she would if she gets the DP. General population may become a reality for her somewhere down the line. I don't think GP will be very pleasant for her.

[Jeepers]

I don't but I do know that Tracy said "she" pretended to be Casey one time coming out of Baez's office. (Under an umbrella held by George with a towel over her head.)

So if that was Tracy- where was Casey?

I heard her say that and thought that maybe they took Casey out a side door to avoid the crowds and media. I don't think Tracy or Lenny & Co would allow Casey to be too far from them.
jmo but, who knows

[Barbara fl.]

[**SNIPPED**

Fortune Cookie says" Be wary of peeps that start their sentences off with:
We Are Honest People
Ok, I will be Honest with you
Ok, I will tell you the Truth

Here is another one...

Ok, TRUST ME....

K![/QUOTE]


Please leave out "Trust me", I am forever saying that to my kids when I am trying to tell them something and they act like they don't believe me...I always say "Trust me on this, will ya?" :laugh:

Kidding aside, I agree...when people have to advise someone that they are honest or that they are telling the truth, then they must have been called liars and dishonest before....or they feel that people can see thru them...

[Jeepers]

I don't recall that specific incident but nothing about those all day office visits seemed kosher to me.

No did'nt sound right at all. Then listening to Tracy tapes, she said, Casey sat in a conference room on a computer and she sat in the lobby.
Why did they feel like Casey needed to be away from the A's home all day everyday. What was the purpose of that media show everyday?

[Bala]

No did'nt sound right at all. Then listening to Tracy tapes, she said, Casey sat in a conference room on a computer and she sat in the lobby.
Why did they feel like Casey needed to be away from the A's home all day everyday. What was the purpose of that media show everyday?

The police have access to Casey's computer not Baez's. Part of her bond was no computer access if I'm not mistaken. Plus she could do whatever and LE could not get access to it.

[Barbara fl.]

I agree w/you. I definitely don't think the defense will be successful if they file a motion saying that there is insufficient evidence to support a murder charge. The Grand Jury already indicted her. That ship has sailed. This case is going to trial, no way around that. I also don't think she will be successful in getting the DP off the table either. I truly don't think that the state would put it back on the table if they didn't really believe that it was warranted. Now, the jury may not recommend the DP for Casey, but they will be DP qualified and more apt to convict her. If Casey doesn't get the DP then she will get LWOP, which will still be a very appropriate and fitting punishment for murdering Caylee. It may even be worse for her because she won't get an automatic appeal and she won't stay in PC like she would if she gets the DP. General population may become a reality for her somewhere down the line. I don't think GP will be very pleasant for her.

LKB stated on a show (I believe yesterday) that the reason the state is going after the DP was to insure that a more sophisticated jury will be chosen.....DP jurors tend to be more attentive to details.....And, like you say, I don't care either way...I'll be just as happy if she get's LWOP...just knowing that her days are being spent in fear each and every day...and for a person like her that didn't want to be tied down with a child....will find out what REALLY being tied down means....:biggrin:

[AlohaRainbow]

I wonder if anyone told Cindy just how stupid she sounded when she said "If there is a dog there must be a Zanny".....:sneaky:

and if LE and/or the public would only get off their fat a**** and find zanny's dog's toothbrush, they could get zanny's dna from it
:tongueside:

[Sun]

I wonder how writing and mailing letters to Casey at the jail, is going for Cindy and George these days. Isn't that what they've made a point to tell the media, that they are going to be doing?

I so wish that the media would publish Casey's inmate visitor's log, for the year of 2009. It would be interesting to see just how many times AL has visited with her client (and if Baez made a point to be in attendance each and every time.).

[Barbara fl.]

You mean corporate headquarters!


Oh, excuse me....MUCH BETTER TERM......"Corporate Headquarters", I like the sound of that.....

Maybe we should have a plate made up for over her cell door...:lol:

[happygert]

Its after Labor day has she filed the motion yet? Dang wonder if we'll hear from the Judge today.. Hoping it will come soon..will be 4 weeks Friday since hearing..

[need2no]

and if LE and/or the public would only get off their fat a**** and find zanny's dog's toothbrush, they could get zanny's dna from it
:tongueside:

Wow....great idea, case solved.

:lol:

[Bala]

That's what I thought too. I don't recall Tracy mentioning it in her interviews. So far though, Lenny hasn't lied (or been proven wrong) in his comments about what Tracy said so I tend to believe the story.


Re: Andrea Lyon's promised motions after Labor Day. We all keep thinking she said she would argue about the death penalty but I had to go search for something I thought I had read:

http://www.wesh.com/news/20604174/detail.html

Also, some time after Labor Day, Andrea Lyon from Casey Anthony's legal team will make her first major statement in the case.

It will come in the form of a motion arguing there is insufficient evidence to support a murder charge against Casey Anthony.

So even though a grand jury thought there was enough evidence for a murder charge, she doesn't? Am I understanding that correctly?
Desperate people say desperate things.

[Barbara fl.]

and if LE and/or the public would only get off their fat a**** and find zanny's dog's toothbrush, they could get zanny's dna from it
:tongueside:


I love it...we're all on a roll today....

That's right, we just have to find Zanny's dogs toothbrush to solve this case....Why haven't we thought of that before? I guess we wont make it to be PI's...:sad:

[need2no]

Oh, excuse me....MUCH BETTER TERM......"Corporate Headquarters", I like the sound of that.....

Maybe we should have a plate made up for over her cell door...:lol:

Then all she would need is some business cards to hand out. :biggrin:

[Dells]

LKB stated on a show (I believe yesterday) that the reason the state is going after the DP was to insure that a more sophisticated jury will be chosen.....DP jurors tend to be more attentive to details.....And, like you say, I don't care either way...I'll be just as happy if she get's LWOP...just knowing that her days are being spent in fear each and every day...and for a person like her that didn't want to be tied down with a child....will find out what REALLY being tied down means....:biggrin:

Bolding mine....

Oh, I so agree w/you. Taking care of Caylee now probably doesn't seem that bad to Casey in comparison to spending the rest of her life in PRISON.

[apothecary]

I remember the day of the press conference - the announcement that the grand jury went for a murder charge - and the LE spokesperson (can't remember his name, maybe he's the one who retired or maybe it was the SA?) apologized to the grand jury members saying he felt really badly for what they had to see and hear, indicating they might have been traumatized. And this was BEFORE they found the body. I'm thinking LE has an awful lot of terrible things to set before us when the time comes... Does anyone else remember this? Gave me chills.
I remember that.I thought it was chief Beary.This was even before the duct tape was discovered,so it makes me wonder what they knew.

[Barbara fl.]

Then all she would need is some business cards to hand out. :biggrin:


Don't be surprised if George hasn't already done that....:laugh:

[need2no]

The police have access to Casey's computer not Baez's. Part of her bond was no computer access if I'm not mistaken. Plus she could do whatever and LE could not get access to it.

Along those lines... another little interesting tid bit I had forgotten about:

Leonard Padilla: There was another time when we ran into a gentleman that told us that George was very upset, and was blaming Tracy for having used the family computer. And we asked Tracy, why did you use the family computer,. she says, I never did. And I said, well, why is George putting out that story?

And we came to the assumption that there was something on the family computer that shouldn`t have been there, and they`re going to blame it down the road on Tracy.

**I wonder if "the gentlemen" was Jim Campbell?**

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0811/25/ng.01.html

[Scampi]

Thanks Scampi! So true about this Titanic case. I'm picturing Baez, LKB, Lyon, and Macaluso as the quartet who played on even as the ship was sinking. I wonder if Baez knows how to play the violin? Or maybe he'll be playing the maracas as the ship goes down, lest we forget his hispanic heritage!

What a vision! :lol:

[Barbara fl.]

Bolding mine....

Oh, I so agree w/you. Taking care of Caylee now probably doesn't seem that bad to Casey in comparison to spending the rest of her life in PRISON.


Oh, trust me (oops sorry) Casey hasn't begun to regret what she has done......wait till she has to pack up her little belongings and be shipped out....I hope we get to see it....I hope there are camera's all over the place.....

[AlohaRainbow]

Then all she would need is some business cards to hand out. :biggrin:

speaking of hands :laugh: and the busines logo on the card could be a hand help up, fingers widespread, with names printed on the fingers... george, cindy, lee, casey and "caylee - missing"

[Sun]

I love these old videos. JB is whining about LE arresting Casey on the economic charges, leaks from LE, LE arrested her on minor economic crimes, making Casey look bad...

Casey's arrest - caution this video has not been edited and the language may be offensive to some.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OctbbfMPP5g

JB responding to the arrest: http://www.wesh.com/video/17342322/index.html

[need2no]

Don't be surprised if George hasn't already done that....:laugh:

Nothing, ABSOLUTELY nothing in this case would surprise me anymore.

[AnniePie]

Very interesting the way you put this...and you are right....I sent an E-mail questioning The cayle foundation and why I, as an eager donor, trying to find some way to lower my taxes, would give to her foundation..Funny how she says that this is not about Casey...probably wrote her off at this point....below is my e-mail...only name and address have been changed..


From:cma@cayleemarieanthonyfoundation.net

Not sure what on-line resources to which you are referring but our website mission statement clearly identifies the intentions of the foundation. Despite all the BS in the media and the blogs, we are very honest people. This foundation is very important to us by honoring Caylee and assisting others. Check out the recent updates on our Caylee Bear program. The decision is yours, but you will not see a disclaimer on the website about Casey because its not about her. Sincerely, Cindy Anthony


On Sun Jun 28 18:53 , Mr and Mrs ****** ********sent:



My wife and I would like to make a donation to an organization that helps missing children. Obviously, your foundation is at the fore-front in the media and print news lately, which is why it caught our eye.

We are in the position to make a rather large donation for our own tax purposes, but we do not want our money going to a foundation that is not what it is advertised to be.

I searched your website and checked on-line resources, but I do not see a disclaimer that NO monies collected will be used for the defense of the daughter Casey. This is a paramount condition for both of us and we need a reply from the foundation stating this or we will be forced to explore other avenues for our monies.

The other reply we need is to the amount of total donations accepted versus administration fees. This is important to us to "weed" out any charities that are using monies to benefit themselves and not the children.

Please reply via E-Mail

Thank you for your time

*** and ********* *******

OMH! "Despite all the lies we've been caught in up to this point, and all the lies we will be caught in in the future... we are very honest people!"

This woman is completely nuts. :scared:

(Great letter Mac!)

[Dells]

I wonder if anyone told Cindy just how stupid she sounded when she said "If there is a dog there must be a Zanny".....:sneaky:

Even if someone told her and pointed out to her exactly what she did and said that made her appear so foolish it would still be lost on Cindy. She just doesn't get it. She keeps appearing in the media saying and doing the exact same things.... :sneaky:

[Scampi]

I remember the day of the press conference - the announcement that the grand jury went for a murder charge - and the LE spokesperson (can't remember his name, maybe he's the one who retired or maybe it was the SA?) apologized to the grand jury members saying he felt really badly for what they had to see and hear, indicating they might have been traumatized. And this was BEFORE they found the body. I'm thinking LE has an awful lot of terrible things to set before us when the time comes... Does anyone else remember this? Gave me chills.

I remember that too summer and I think it was Lawson Lamar, the States Attorney who made those remarks.

[ish]

All this talk about Dom and what he knew, and how he knew it reminds me this could have turned out quite differently if the Judge would have approved this little adventure:

Casey Anthony Now Wants to Search Privately for Missing Caylee Anthony & Have Freedom of Travel

After all this time stone walling and lying to police Casey Anthony wants to search for her missing daughter. Suddenly Casey Anthony is not afraid to search for Caylee.
Caylee Anthony has been missing since June 9, 2008. Caylee was not reported missing by her grandmother, Cindy Anthony, until July 16, 2008.
Now some four months after Caylee Anthony initially disappeared, the mother Casey Anthony wants to search privately for her daughter and have freedom of travel to do so.

Casey Anthony’s attorneys want a judge to approve a request that would allow them to take their client to places “of interest” so she can help look for her missing daughter, Caylee. They want to be able to do it in private and without public knowledge. Right now, Casey is under home confinement and must obtain permission from the county jail to travel. Such requests are public record.


Now tell me Baez didn't know Caylee's general location, and that this request wasn't ludicrous.

How did Baez even think this motion would be granted? Of course a judge would let her out to "look" for her daughter!! If I were the judge I'd have hauled her azz into court and asked her just WTH she'd been doing for the last 31 days, besides shopping with stolen checks in Target, hanging around in Fusion and getting laid, and why should the court think she'd do anything differently if she were out?

[sydney]

OMH! "Despite all the lies we've been caught in up to this point, and all the lies we will be caught in in the future... we are very honest people!"

This woman is completely nuts. :scared:

(Great letter Mac!)

nice language to try and persuade someone to join your cause, too "despite of all the BS in the media....."

sheesh. that would make me want to join in a heartbeat!

[Barbara fl.]

Even if someone told her and pointed out to her exactly what she did and said that made her appear so foolish it would still be lost on Cindy. She just doesn't get it. She keeps appearing in the media saying and doing the exact same things.... :sneaky:


I wonder how this woman ever made it to be an RN?.....Those tests are extremely hard...Do we know for sure that Cindy is an RN? The way they all talk, it seems that they all quit school....

[Dells]

I love these old videos. JB is whining about LE arresting Casey on the economic charges, leaks from LE, LE arrested her on minor economic crimes, making Casey look bad...

Casey's arrest - caution this video has not been edited and the language may be offensive to some.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OctbbfMPP5g

JB responding to the arrest: http://www.wesh.com/video/17342322/index.html

Bolding mine....

Oh please, I wish JB would just give it a rest. LE doesn't have to do anything to make Casey look bad. She's doing a good job of it all on her own. Casey wouldn't have been arrested on economic charges if she didn't steal money and checks from her friend. If she didn't want to be arrested, then she shouldn't have committed the crime. Every day people are arrested for the exact same crime that Casey committed. Why should she get special treatment and not be arrested?

[Barbara fl.]

OMH! "Despite all the lies we've been caught in up to this point, and all the lies we will be caught in in the future... we are very honest people!"

This woman is completely nuts. :scared:

(Great letter Mac!)


I would love to know the people (if any) that are donating to this bogus foundation....they must not read the news or watch it and have nothing better to do with their money.....:confused:

[Dells]

OMH! "Despite all the lies we've been caught in up to this point, and all the lies we will be caught in in the future... we are very honest people!"

This woman is completely nuts. :scared:

(Great letter Mac!)

I find it funny that Cindy points out the lies in the media. How about the lies coming from her daughter and out of their own home?:sneaky:

I agree, great email, Mac!:thumbup:

[sydney]

How did Baez even think this motion would be granted? Of course a judge would let her out to "look" for her daughter!! If I were the judge I'd have hauled her azz into court and asked her just WTH she'd been doing for the last 31 days, besides shopping with stolen checks in Target, hanging around in Fusion and getting laid, and why should the court think she'd do anything differently if she were out?

not only that, ish, but why the frig didn't she disclose any of her potential locations to le?

duh - lest we forget, that whole family lies

[ish]

ITA Barb, if anyone had a shred of doubt before crab puff night that put it to rest. Nobody... NOBODY goes out for dinner with the media and chows down when their grandbaby's little bones are being picked out of the dirt. There's no way to spin that. Horrible people.

my bold

That was one of the most unbelievable things G & C have done. Even staying at the Ritz that night doesn't compare. All I would have wanted to do that night and for the many days after is hide in my room with the covers over my head. Eating anything, let alone having my daughter's defense attorney stop by for a "strategy" session would have been unthinkable. ANd Cindy strolling around with her "rock" !! At least George was seemingly distraught enough to stay in his room.

[Barbara fl.]

I find it funny that Cindy points out the lies in the media. How about the lies coming from her daughter and out of their own home?:sneaky:

I agree, great email, Mac!:thumbup:


Amen to that....and Lee had the nerve to say to M&M that he believed everything his sister told him...What a crock....

This family is a trip...:cursing:

[happygert]

OMH! "Despite all the lies we've been caught in up to this point, and all the lies we will be caught in in the future... we are very honest people!"

This woman is completely nuts. :scared:

(Great letter Mac!)

IIRC george told LE cindy is the most honest person he knows...((cough)) :wink: Well all I can say he must surround himself with a bunch of lairs.. no wonder Rick and the rest of the family dont have anything to do with any of them..

[Dells]

my bold

That was one of the most unbelievable things G & C have done. Even staying at the Ritz that night doesn't compare. All I would have wanted to do that night and for the many days after is hide in my room with the covers over my head. Eating anything, let alone having my daughter's defense attorney stop by for a "strategy" session would have been unthinkable. ANd Cindy strolling around with her "rock" !! At least George was seemingly distraught enough to stay in his room.

Bolding mine....

Yes, at least George seems capable of showing appropriate emotions and behavior towards the situation every now and then. But then Cindy quickly snaps him back into her fantasy world.:rolleyes:

[Barbara fl.]

my bold

That was one of the most unbelievable things G & C have done. Even staying at the Ritz that night doesn't compare. All I would have wanted to do that night and for the many days after is hide in my room with the covers over my head. Eating anything, let alone having my daughter's defense attorney stop by for a "strategy" session would have been unthinkable. ANd Cindy strolling around with her "rock" !! At least George was seemingly distraught enough to stay in his room.


You are so right...even if they knew in advance that Caylee was deceased, knowing that her little body had been found would have been enough to drive me over the edge....But they went out and enjoyed their dinner.....

[Jeepers]

You know....watching this video again...my lord, can you imagine living in that neighborhood....even within a mile of that fiasco.....all because Casey wanted to party....Rot in hell

This video should be required viewing to anyone that wants to donate to the George and Cindy fund

I agree Mac. What a circus that neighborhood was. I still cannot get over how Casey's lack of reaction is.
Even the bad guys on Cops TV give em a good fight.
They risked getting tased over a traffic violation.
Casey has never put up a fight. She is just not scared of going to jail or being in jail.

[Bala]

my bold

That was one of the most unbelievable things G & C have done. Even staying at the Ritz that night doesn't compare. All I would have wanted to do that night and for the many days after is hide in my room with the covers over my head. Eating anything, let alone having my daughter's defense attorney stop by for a "strategy" session would have been unthinkable. And Cindy strolling around with her "rock" !! At least George was seemingly distraught enough to stay in his room.
And at no time did any member of the family go to the crime scene to be close to Caylee. Then they left her for months in a cardboard box with no one there to comfort her. No one to say I'm sorry or I love you and miss you. She was just left to rot in that box for months.

[Barbara fl.]

Bolding mine....

Yes, at least George seems capable of showing appropriate emotions and behavior towards the situation every now and then. But then Cindy quickly snaps him back into her fantasy world.:rolleyes:


George came from a different mold, and although Cindy probably molded him to be the way she wanted him to be, he just couldn't pretend that much.....As for Lee and Casey, they have half of the mother's blood in them and it shows big time.....

[Sun]

Bolding mine....

Oh please, I wish JB would just give it a rest. LE doesn't have to do anything to make Casey look bad. She's doing a good job of it all on her own. Casey wouldn't have been arrested on economic charges if she didn't steal money and checks from her friend. If she didn't want to be arrested, then she shouldn't have committed the crime. Every day people are arrested for the exact same crime that Casey committed. Why should she get special treatment and not be arrested?


A money order was delivered from the Baez Law Firm to the bank just last month.... just slightly over a year from the time that Casey committed the criminal check/fraud crimes.

I am so ready to hear that a pre-trial and trial date has been set to hear the criminal check/fraud case. Seems like it's taking a long time to get these dates set, and for us to hear about the dates.

[Bala]

Amen to that....and Lee had the nerve to say to M&M that he believed everything his sister told him...What a crock....

This family is a trip...:cursing:

If we take Lee at his word then I guess he is a pervert who tried to seduce his baby sister.

[ish]

not only that, ish, but why the frig didn't she disclose any of her potential locations to le?

duh - lest we forget, that whole family lies

Syd, how could she! She was in jail, everything had been taken from her. SHe was so fhustrated she could hardly swallow, the only way she could, maybe possibly, find something out is if she was home, but Cindy and George ruined her chance at that, so now she is stuck with just that feeling in her "gut", the connection with her kid that tells her that Caylee is OK. she's close, she may be home for her birthday! or not..

[Barbara fl.]

She goes to the Bill CLinton school of lying...when in doubt...always accuse the accusers.....Sorry to the Dems out there...:)

Gee, I always thought that was Bush.....sorry Mac :blush:

[Imperfect4]

The way they gaze upon her in court, like she's there picking up her PhD in Physics and not on trial for the murder of her baby says it all right there... "a daughter any parent would be proud of!" (paraphrase) George Anthony.

I find that so incredibly creepy, summer.

Most seem focused on the fact Casey doesn't acknowledge them in the courtroom. I can't get over how extremely creepy it is that G&C gaze upon her like she's some kind of rock star. :unsure:

[Barbara fl.]

If we take Lee at his word then I guess he is a pervert who tried to seduce his baby sister.


I wish they would have brought that question up to him...I would have loved to hear his answer....

[happygert]

And at no time did any member of the family go to the crime scene to be close to Caylee. Then they left her for months in a cardboard box with no one there to comfort her. No one to say I'm sorry or I love you and miss you. She was just left to rot in that box for months.

exactly...they'd had to drag me away from there..But then again, I say they knew exactly where Caylee was the whole time.. The only time they go there is to tear down memorials to Caylee...

[Barbara fl.]

I find that so incredibly creepy, summer.

Most seem focused on the fact Casey doesn't acknowledge them in the courtroom. I can't get over how extremely creepy it is that G&C gaze upon her like she's some kind of rock star. :unsure:


I noticed that also :lol:...Cindy gets up and follows Casey with her eyes until she is out that side door....

Nut jobs....

[AnniePie]

my bold

That was one of the most unbelievable things G & C have done. Even staying at the Ritz that night doesn't compare. All I would have wanted to do that night and for the many days after is hide in my room with the covers over my head. Eating anything, let alone having my daughter's defense attorney stop by for a "strategy" session would have been unthinkable. ANd Cindy strolling around with her "rock" !! At least George was seemingly distraught enough to stay in his room.

Georgie wasn't eating crabpuffs? I didn't know that.

[Sun]

I agree Mac. What a circus that neighborhood was. I still cannot get over how Casey's lack of reaction is.
Even the bad guys on Cops TV give em a good fight.
They risked getting tased over a traffic violation.
Casey has never put up a fight. She is just not scared of going to jail or being in jail.

She appears to be basking in the attention. Unreal. LP sure didn't waste any time in revoking her bond, and turning in the rental RV, and getting Casey off his hands.

[sydney]

Syd, how could she! She was in jail, everything had been taken from her. SHe was so fhustrated she could hardly swallow, the only way she could, maybe possibly, find something out is if she was home, but Cindy and George ruined her chance at that, so now she is stuck with just that feeling in her "gut", the connection with her kid that tells her that Caylee is OK. she's close, she may be home for her birthday! or not..

perhaps she wasn't done following the zanny script either. wonder what night spots she would have dragged jose to...

[ish]

And at no time did any member of the family go to the crime scene to be close to Caylee. Then they left her for months in a cardboard box with no one there to comfort her. No one to say I'm sorry or I love you and miss you. She was just left to rot in that box for months.

Bala, you are right, why didn't one of them go down to the crime scene, just to be close to her? I'm sure the Sheriff's Office would have given them some protection from the media if they wanted to be there. But Casey sure complained about being left alone in jail with no one to comfort her but herself. I wonder if G & C thought of Casey's remarks when Caylee was found and considered the irony? I doubt it.

[Barbara fl.]

She appears to be basking in the attention. Unreal. LP sure didn't waste any time in revoking her bond, and turning in the rental RV, and getting Casey off his hands.

I've always been confused about that...I thought that Casey was arrested for first degree murder and the bond was automatically revoked...I don't remember LP revoking it....

I remember Baez asking for Casey's bracelet to be removed so that she can help in the search for Caylee (a crock) and on that very morning, she ended up being arrsted on first degree murder....

I could be wrong, but that is how I remember it...

[Scampi]

Gee, I always thought that was Bush.....sorry Mac :blush:

High 5 Barb!! :thumbsup:






sorry mac......lol.

[ish]

Georgie wasn't eating crabpuffs? I didn't know that.

Oh George had crab puffs! Then he was overcome and went to his room, Cindy took a stroll with her "rock" and the producer. I give George credit for more feelings than Cindy, not much but a few more. If he shows too many Cindy accuses him of being "weak".

[Barbara fl.]

Bala, you are right, why didn't one of them go down to the crime scene, just to be close to her? I'm sure the Sheriff's Office would have given them some protection from the media if they wanted to be there. But Casey sure complained about being left alone in jail with no one to comfort her but herself. I wonder if G & C thought of Casey's remarks when Caylee was found and considered the irony? I doubt it.


First of all, I would not even want to still live in that home so close to where my granddaughter was thrown away....I would have been looking for somewhere else to live....Everytime they go out they have to look in that direction and it doesn't seem to bother them...:shrug:

[Barbara fl.]

Well, gotta go get the grands from school....back later...

[Imperfect4]

Oh George had crab puffs! Then he was overcome and went to his room, Cindy took a stroll with her "rock" and the producer. I give George credit for more feelings than Cindy, not much but a few more. If he shows too many Cindy accuses him of being "weak".

Maybe George was overcome by jealousy and not the fact his grandbaby's remains were being recovered in a swamp, in the dark, by strangers.

[need2no]

I would love to know the people (if any) that are donating to this bogus foundation....they must not read the news or watch it and have nothing better to do with their money.....:confused:

Similar to the people who send casey money.

Do-gooders....someone who thinks they are helping society by championing oppressed minority groups, and/or a well-intentioned but naïve, uninformed or impractical person who doesn't let facts stand in their way when they can find an ounce of pity/sympathy for another and toss money their way. It makes them feel good about themselves.

I suspect some may send money casey's way because they feel sorry for her after being exposed to the likes of Cindy, knowing this woman is at least in part the reason casey turned out the way she did.

Others may contribute money to the Fundation as a way of expressing sorrow about Caylee and believing their donation will go to help a missing child. These people probably want to believe that this is a healing activity for the poor Anthony's who lost their granddaughter in such a horrendous way.

Still others simply saw one snippet of Cindy on TV appearing to be a distraught Grandma and felt sorry for her as she lied about the facts in this case. Imagine if the CBS morning show was the only thing you've seen regarding this case. You would have no way of knowing that Cindy's little show of emotion was a BIG FAKE, mere acting for the cameras, and the things she said were self serving BS.

[sydney]

i'm kinda slow here but i was re-reading dc's statement. iirc, he said that if caylee was found, she should be found in a respectful manner. what the heck does that mean? sounds like an anthony-ism to me. and if le shouldn't look for a dead caylee (per cindy), why was it okay for dc to look for a dead caylee?

[KittyMom]

i'm kinda slow here but i was re-reading dc's statement. iirc, he said that if caylee was found, she should be found in a respectful manner. what the heck does that mean? sounds like an anthony-ism to me. and if le shouldn't look for a dead caylee (per cindy), why was it okay for dc to look for a dead caylee?

Does this "respectful manner" include poking her with a metal rod. Fact is, had he found her, the def would be screaming over his contaminating evidence.

[ish]

Maybe George was overcome by jealousy and not the fact his grandbaby's remains were being recovered in a swamp, in the dark, by strangers.

How cute! After all these years, George still has it bad for CIndy. He's capable of mustering up some jealousy for her but doesn't have the gumption to stand up for "that little girl":mad:

[Sun]

I've always been confused about that...I thought that Casey was arrested for first degree murder and the bond was automatically revoked...I don't remember LP revoking it....

I remember Baez asking for Casey's bracelet to be removed so that she can help in the search for Caylee (a crock) and on that very morning, she ended up being arrsted on first degree murder....

I could be wrong, but that is how I remember it...

Casey was re-arrested on Friday evening, and by Saturday LP was filing the paperwork to get off her $500,000 bond. If he hadn't have, as soon as Casey was able to post bond on the criminal check/fraud charges, she would have been back out.

However, some other entity stepped in and coughed up big funds to get Casey out again on bond... too bad the person coughing up those funds weren't ever identified. (they hid behind the identities of George and Cindy, IIRC)

[Scampi]

i'm kinda slow here but i was re-reading dc's statement. iirc, he said that if caylee was found, she should be found in a respectful manner. what the heck does that mean? sounds like an anthony-ism to me. and if le shouldn't look for a dead caylee (per cindy), why was it okay for dc to look for a dead caylee?

Good question sydney, what the heck did he mean by that. As it was, those dedicated FBI and various LE officers spent days on their hands and knees to bring Caylee home. This family does not know the meaning of the word gratitude, imo.

[Jeepers]

I was just looking at the CayleeMarieAnthonyfoundation.net and clicked on the links. Low & Behold they are linked up with Kindfinders and D&A Investigations (DC)
I just thought that was cozy
Also you can there links to the case.
They just keep everything together in one easy spot so they don't have to go looking for anything.
Just like the way they looked for Caylee.

Their website never speaks of Caylee being a child that has been murdered just that she is missing.
Misleading site in my opinion. No resolution to Caylee's plight does not mention how their Caylee became missing nothing. Nothing about other children being found tthrough their efforts. Just a few pics of Clevlenad Clinic in Ohio with the Caylee Bears and another event with George walking around. Looked like a car show zzzzzzsleeper.
There were some other pictures about events that they attended pretty lame.

[kakax]

I love these old videos. JB is whining about LE arresting Casey on the economic charges, leaks from LE, LE arrested her on minor economic crimes, making Casey look bad...

Casey's arrest - caution this video has not been edited and the language may be offensive to some.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OctbbfMPP5g

JB responding to the arrest: http://www.wesh.com/video/17342322/index.html


It is fun to watch these old videos. Brings back the memories of those protesters acting like crazy out of control football fans though. Ugh, I wish they had just stood silently. Would have made the point so much better. I understand the sentiment, but geez it makes me cringe when I hear them woohooing like they did.

[Explorer]

The most bizarre thing to me was when George was crying to the judge not to release the autopsy report because of the media frenzy it would cause while sitting there with a producer from ABC!!!! You just cant make this stuff up!!!:laugh:

[ladeebug565]

If Cindys grandaughter was missing WHY would she give LE who was trying to find her The DOGS brush? Doesnt pass the smell test.

Right. Further, why wouldn't you turn over every credit card records to help LE? Why would you only turn those records over to a relative (Lee) to do a unprofessional parallel investigation? How does that help? Why would you accuse innocents? Why would you, on the one hand, scream at LE for not doing enough to find your granddaughter, but somehow justify your own daughter never reporting her child missing? Why would you clean out a car that you knew smelled of decomposing flesh? Why would you even drive it off the lot in the first place? Why would you go on TV and tell viewers that the cadaver dogs didn't hit? Why would you decline a lie detector test? Why would you admit that your daughter lies and steals but then say she doesn't lie that much and she doesn't steal that much? Why, after a fight when your unemployed, lying, stealing, neglectful daughter is about to go out into the night with her child to sleep who knows where, not say "not in my car, you don't"?

As part of their foundation, will the Anthonys be telling parents of real missing children that they should try to jeapordize the investigation as much as possible, create smoke screens and lie for the person who is mostly likely the cause of the child's disappearance?

[Jeepers]

She appears to be basking in the attention. Unreal. LP sure didn't waste any time in revoking her bond, and turning in the rental RV, and getting Casey off his hands.

Yes, he gotta outta town pretty quick, if I recall correctly. I think even Lenny was blown away by Cindy, Casey and Lee.

[kakax]

I find that so incredibly creepy, summer.

Most seem focused on the fact Casey doesn't acknowledge them in the courtroom. I can't get over how extremely creepy it is that G&C gaze upon her like she's some kind of rock star. :unsure:



So true! It's like they just can't get the right emotions to have in any situation. They looked like they wanted her autograph at the hearing. Weird.

[kakax]

The most bizarre thing to me was when George was crying to the judge not to release the autopsy report because of the media frenzy it would cause while sitting there with a producer from ABC!!!! You just cant make this stuff up!!!:laugh:

Right! Crazy!!!!

[Jeepers]

It is fun to watch these old videos. Brings back the memories of those protesters acting like crazy out of control football fans though. Ugh, I wish they had just stood silently. Would have made the point so much better. I understand the sentiment, but geez it makes me cringe when I hear them woohooing like they did.

I so agree. I just love ole home movies. I hope George and Cindy treasure Casey's coming out party video.
In my opinion I am glad the people shouted at her. I am glad that the A's know how the people really feel.
I agree with what you said about the people being silent and standing united it probably would have made a better point. I guess I just like the cowboy way. whoop it up and Call her what she is, let her know how you really feel with her parents standing in their doorway watching and listening. They deserve so much more jmo

[kakax]

I think the main reason why Cindy wanted the info first, was to be able to try to spin it the way she wanted..it would ensure all of her tour dates with the networks....also I think a lot of it is her controlling and insufferable need to be in command......


Yup, they would pick and choose what they thought was relevant and then turn over what they believed the investigators should use.

Whatever. These people are so inappropriate, it's laughable.

[Imperfect4]

How cute! After all these years, George still has it bad for CIndy. He's capable of mustering up some jealousy for her but doesn't have the gumption to stand up for "that little girl":mad:

Pretty much. He's jealous by his own admission. I think with regard to their little R&R at the Hyatt beginning on the day Caylee's remains were discovered, GA was much more concerned about his future with Cindy than the fact Caylee had no future.

The self-absorption doesn't stop with the two female Anthonys, imo.

[Numbers]

IIRC george told LE cindy is the most honest person he knows...((cough)) :wink: Well all I can say he must surround himself with a bunch of lairs.. no wonder Rick and the rest of the family dont have anything to do with any of them..

George doesn't get out much, does he?

[Explorer]

Pretty much. He's jealous by his own admission. I think with regard to their little R&R at the Hyatt beginning on the day Caylee's remains were discovered, GA was much more concerned about his future with Cindy than the fact Caylee had no future.

The self-absorption doesn't stop with the two female Anthonys, imo.

I think we have a perfect storm here for severe mental illness. Im telling ya this case is going to be studied for years and years.

[sydney]

Does this "respectful manner" include poking her with a metal rod. Fact is, had he found her, the def would be screaming over his contaminating evidence.

absolutely. i wonder what he would have done if he found her? call the police, attempt to move her? was this area still underwater when he started looking there? sounds like he was using sophisticated locating equipment, what with the stick and all.

btw, was the psychic interviewed?

[Imperfect4]

I think we have a perfect storm here for severe mental illness. Im telling ya this case is going to be studied for years and years.

I honestly don't believe it's a case (or cases) of mental illness. I believe it's a symptom of what's happening to us as a society.

[sydney]

I honestly don't believe it's a case (or cases) of mental illness. I believe it's a symptom of what's happening to us as a society.

i've heard it called the "not me" generation.

[Explorer]

I honestly don't believe it's a case (or cases) of mental illness. I believe it's a symptom of what's happening to us as a society.

Yep where lying is almost the norm.

[happygert]

George doesn't get out much, does he?

LOL......no I guess she didn't lie as much as casey..or she was a better liar then casey....my guess is .. she was a better liar then casey..

[Katprint]

Does this "respectful manner" include poking her with a metal rod. Fact is, had he found her, the def would be screaming over his contaminating evidence.
Had he found her, he would have left the remains exactly where he found them and the defense would have been in court the next morning with a motion to set a speedy trial date in hopes of getting the trial done before the remains were found by anyone else and disclosed to the prosecution. Then, if Casey managed to get an acquittal or was only convicted on some of the lesser included charges or maybe even a plea deal negotiated to lesser charges - so long as she was protected by double jeopardy from prosecution again for murder - the remains could officially be "discovered."

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[Imperfect4]

i've heard it called the "not me" generation.

Wow. Hadn't heard that! It fits so well.

[ladeebug565]

IIRC george told LE cindy is the most honest person he knows...((cough)) :wink: Well all I can say he must surround himself with a bunch of lairs.. no wonder Rick and the rest of the family dont have anything to do with any of them..

Remember in the interview with LE, Cindy Anthony was pointing out that Jesse had changed his story about hearing Caylee in the background during a phone call with Casey? LE told Cindy that he is not the only one who has changed their story, that she had changed hers as well. Cindy responds that it's not the same thing. Let's just gloss over the fact, too, that her daughter pretended to be holding a job for the past 2 years!

[sydney]

Had he found her, he would have left the remains exactly where he found them and the defense would have been in court the next morning with a motion to set a speedy trial date in hopes of getting the trial done before the remains were found by anyone else and disclosed to the prosecution. Then, if Casey managed to get an acquittal or was only convicted on some of the lesser included charges or maybe even a plea deal negotiated to lesser charges - so long as she was protected a double jeopardy prosecution again for murder - the remains could officially be "discovered."

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

hey, kat. what with court schedules, attorney schedules and all, do you think they would have succeeded in getting a trial date before the official discovery? that's playing it awful close timewise, isn't it?

[kakax]

I so agree. I just love ole home movies. I hope George and Cindy treasure Casey's coming out party video.
In my opinion I am glad the people shouted at her. I am glad that the A's know how the people really feel.
I agree with what you said about the people being silent and standing united it probably would have made a better point. I guess I just like the cowboy way. whoop it up and Call her what she is, let her know how you really feel with her parents standing in their doorway watching and listening. They deserve so much more jmo



What kills me is now we know she was thinking about how she looked...so self centered it's unbelievable. She is probably thinking...with my hands behind my back Howard Stern will be able to judge my cup size better.

Ugh.

[happygert]

Remember in the interview with LE, Cindy Anthony was pointing out that Jesse had changed his story about hearing Caylee in the background during a phone call with Casey? LE told Cindy that he is not the only one who has changed their story, that she had changed hers as well. Cindy responds that it's not the same thing. Let's just gloss over the fact, too, that her daughter pretended to be holding a job for the past 2 years!

Yep....Its different when she lies.....lol..

[Imperfect4]

Yep where lying is almost the norm.

Yep. It's really scary. Look where lying got the Anthonys. They are surely not the first (but probably the worst) example, and they won't be the last.

[Imperfect4]

Had he found her, he would have left the remains exactly where he found them and the defense would have been in court the next morning with a motion to set a speedy trial date in hopes of getting the trial done before the remains were found by anyone else and disclosed to the prosecution. Then, if Casey managed to get an acquittal or was only convicted on some of the lesser included charges or maybe even a plea deal negotiated to lesser charges - so long as she was protected by double jeopardy from prosecution again for murder - the remains could officially be "discovered."

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

And she could be out on the street again at some point, probably still in her childbearing years. <shudder>

[cassidy]

Had he found her, he would have left the remains exactly where he found them and the defense would have been in court the next morning with a motion to set a speedy trial date in hopes of getting the trial done before the remains were found by anyone else and disclosed to the prosecution. Then, if Casey managed to get an acquittal or was only convicted on some of the lesser included charges or maybe even a plea deal negotiated to lesser charges - so long as she was protected by double jeopardy from prosecution again for murder - the remains could officially be "discovered."

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

So Jose et al could have known for some time that Caylee was dead and the general vicinity of her final resting place? And they are not obligated to turn that information over to the proper authorities? they could go for the best deal possible and THEN release the information?

[KittyMom]

Had he found her, he would have left the remains exactly where he found them and the defense would have been in court the next morning with a motion to set a speedy trial date in hopes of getting the trial done before the remains were found by anyone else and disclosed to the prosecution. Then, if Casey managed to get an acquittal or was only convicted on some of the lesser included charges or maybe even a plea deal negotiated to lesser charges - so long as she was protected by double jeopardy from prosecution again for murder - the remains could officially be "discovered."

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

I defer to your experienced opinion. :thumbsup:

[kelloggirl]

Right. Further, why wouldn't you turn over every credit card records to help LE? Why would you only turn those records over to a relative (Lee) to do a unprofessional parallel investigation? How does that help? Why would you accuse innocents? Why would you, on the one hand, scream at LE for not doing enough to find your granddaughter, but somehow justify your own daughter never reporting her child missing? Why would you clean out a car that you knew smelled of decomposing flesh? Why would you even drive it off the lot in the first place? Why would you go on TV and tell viewers that the cadaver dogs didn't hit? Why would you decline a lie detector test? Why would you admit that your daughter lies and steals but then say she doesn't lie that much and she doesn't steal that much? Why, after a fight when your unemployed, lying, stealing, neglectful daughter is about to go out into the night with her child to sleep who knows where, not say "not in my car, you don't"?

As part of their foundation, will the Anthonys be telling parents of real missing children that they should try to jeapordize the investigation as much as possible, create smoke screens and lie for the person who is mostly likely the cause of the child's disappearance?

NO KIDDING! Their behavior is beyond the pale, beyond ridiculous, and so beyond LUDICROUS that it's gone to PLAID (Spaceballs reference)!

The only meetings they should be attending are those for Pathological Liars Anonymous!

[margaritaville]

Bolding mine....

Oh, I so agree w/you. Taking care of Caylee now probably doesn't seem that bad to Casey in comparison to spending the rest of her life in PRISON.


Can't u see her being the guards little snitch? (If she is not on death row, in GP)
I can....I also see her as getting very "cozy" with any guard that will let her......probably get pregnant again too.

moo

[sydney]

Can't u see her being the guards little snitch? (If she is not on death row, in GP)
I can....I also see her as getting very "cozy" with any guard that will let her......probably get pregnant again too.

moo

can she be sent to an all female prison?

[Dells]

First of all, I would not even want to still live in that home so close to where my granddaughter was thrown away....I would have been looking for somewhere else to live....Everytime they go out they have to look in that direction and it doesn't seem to bother them...:shrug:

Plus, it is very possible that Caylee was murdered in that home and her body stored in the backyard for a period of time. I wouldn't want to stay their either.

[Imperfect4]

Can't u see her being the guards little snitch? (If she is not on death row, in GP)
I can....I also see her as getting very "cozy" with any guard that will let her......probably get pregnant again too.

moo

Bolded to address. That possibility scares me to death. Who would raise that child? Never mind. Don't answer that. :angry:

[Dells]

Well, gotta go get the grands from school....back later...

See you later, Barbara! :seeya: Nice posting w/you today.:smile:

[margaritaville]

Similar to the people who send casey money.

Do-gooders....someone who thinks they are helping society by championing oppressed minority groups, and/or a well-intentioned but naïve, uninformed or impractical person who doesn't let facts stand in their way when they can find an ounce of pity/sympathy for another and toss money their way. It makes them feel good about themselves.

I suspect some may send money casey's way because they feel sorry for her after being exposed to the likes of Cindy, knowing this woman is at least in part the reason casey turned out the way she did.

Others may contribute money to the Fundation as a way of expressing sorrow about Caylee and believing their donation will go to help a missing child. These people probably want to believe that this is a healing activity for the poor Anthony's who lost their granddaughter in such a horrendous way.

Still others simply saw one snippet of Cindy on TV appearing to be a distraught Grandma and felt sorry for her as she lied about the facts in this case. Imagine if the CBS morning show was the only thing you've seen regarding this case. You would have no way of knowing that Cindy's little show of emotion was a BIG FAKE, mere acting for the cameras, and the things she said were self serving BS.


i think the majority that would send money casey's way is either
1) they hate LE and feel Casey (and anyone else that has ever spent 1 day in jail/prison) was railroaded.
2) they think she is beautiful and beautiful people do not commit crimes like this so she must be innocent.. And maybe she will be their pen-pal..


MOO

[Dells]

i'm kinda slow here but i was re-reading dc's statement. iirc, he said that if caylee was found, she should be found in a respectful manner. what the heck does that mean? sounds like an anthony-ism to me. and if le shouldn't look for a dead caylee (per cindy), why was it okay for dc to look for a dead caylee?

Well, it can't be an Anthony-ism. They haven't shown respectful behavior towards Caylee or her memory from the very beginning. I wonder if DC felt that looking for her body by poking everything in his sight w/that long metal rod was looking for her in a respectful manner?:sneaky:

[Dells]

Does this "respectful manner" include poking her with a metal rod. Fact is, had he found her, the def would be screaming over his contaminating evidence.

Bolding mine....

You beat me to it, Kitty! I thought the same exact thing. And you're right. If DC actually would have found Cayee, the defense would have claimed contamination and would have filed a motion to keep the body out of evidence. Of course, if DC was instructed to call JB first if he did in fact find Caylee, I wonder if anybody outside of The Anthony inner circle would know to this day that her body had even been found. :shrug:

[Dells]

I was just looking at the CayleeMarieAnthonyfoundation.net and clicked on the links. Low & Behold they are linked up with Kindfinders and D&A Investigations (DC)
I just thought that was cozy
Also you can there links to the case.
They just keep everything together in one easy spot so they don't have to go looking for anything.
Just like the way they looked for Caylee.

Their website never speaks of Caylee being a child that has been murdered just that she is missing.
Misleading site in my opinion. No resolution to Caylee's plight does not mention how their Caylee became missing nothing. Nothing about other children being found tthrough their efforts. Just a few pics of Clevlenad Clinic in Ohio with the Caylee Bears and another event with George walking around. Looked like a car show zzzzzzsleeper.
There were some other pictures about events that they attended pretty lame.

Yes, that is pretty lame. And disgraceful, despicable, and deplorable as well. Of course The Anthony's don't want to highlight the fact that Caylee was murdered because then everyone would remember that it was their own daughter that murdered her. They want to highlight her as a missing child so the donations keep on rolling in.:sneaky:

[Dells]

Right. Further, why wouldn't you turn over every credit card records to help LE? Why would you only turn those records over to a relative (Lee) to do a unprofessional parallel investigation? How does that help? Why would you accuse innocents? Why would you, on the one hand, scream at LE for not doing enough to find your granddaughter, but somehow justify your own daughter never reporting her child missing? Why would you clean out a car that you knew smelled of decomposing flesh? Why would you even drive it off the lot in the first place? Why would you go on TV and tell viewers that the cadaver dogs didn't hit? Why would you decline a lie detector test? Why would you admit that your daughter lies and steals but then say she doesn't lie that much and she doesn't steal that much? Why, after a fight when your unemployed, lying, stealing, neglectful daughter is about to go out into the night with her child to sleep who knows where, not say "not in my car, you don't"?

As part of their foundation, will the Anthonys be telling parents of real missing children that they should try to jeapordize the investigation as much as possible, create smoke screens and lie for the person who is mostly likely the cause of the child's disappearance?

Bolding mine....

That is the very reason why a missing child foundation and appearing at events w/other families that have missing children that want the person responsible for their missing child brought to justice are not the correct venues for The Anthony's. They have nothing to offer these families and very little in common w/them. They need to hook up w/foundations and events for people that have a family member that murders another family member...

[really3997]

You know....watching this video again...my lord, can you imagine living in that neighborhood....even within a mile of that fiasco.....all because Casey wanted to party....Rot in hell

This video should be required viewing to anyone that wants to donate to the George and Cindy fund

I must admit I was there:blushing:

[Katprint]

hey, kat. what with court schedules, attorney schedules and all, do you think they would have succeeded in getting a trial date before the official discovery? that's playing it awful close timewise, isn't it?
"Under Florida's rules of criminal procedure, every person charged with a felony must be brought to trial within 175 days. If that doesn't happen, a defendant may file papers to force a trial that must then occur within 15 days, or the charge will be dismissed.

The same rules let defendants demand a speedy trial within 60 days of indictment. If a defendant is not brought to trial within 50 days of the filing of that demand, he may file notice that effectively sets a 15-day period in which a trial must be held, or the charge will be dropped."

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1119270949494

The speedy trial rights are embedded in the U.S. Constitution although the statutes specify how much time is "speedy." The judges will push aside other matters to make sure speedy trial deadlines are met. As far as whether they could have gotten the case to trial before the remains were discovered, IMO it was possible but neither Casey nor Baez were wise enough to make it happen.

If Casey had admitted to Baez that she killed Caylee and dumped Caylee's body in an overgrown vacant lot near the Anthony residence, but through dumb luck it had not yet been found, Baez probably wouldn't have been waiving her speedy trial rights between August and December 2008. I think Casey probably didn't tell him for several months; perhaps he had a "come to Jesus" talk with her about how everything she had said turned out to be a lie and he needed her cooperation in order to prepare an effective defense and so forth. So, she eventually told him and he promptly sent DCasey out to look. IIRC Baez made an additional waiver either the day before or the morning of the day that Caylee's remains were discovered, notably AFTER DCasey had already been out to the vacant lot(s), looked around the general area but failed to find the remains. When DCasey didn't find anything, Baez may have simply assumed that there was nothing there to find either because Casey was still lying to him or it had been taken by wild animals or washed away in the severe storms or for whatever other reason, and that it was safe to continue his delay-the-inevitable strategy. You know what they say about "assume" making an azz of u and me...

So Jose et al could have known for some time that Caylee was dead and the general vicinity of her final resting place? And they are not obligated to turn that information over to the proper authorities? they could go for the best deal possible and THEN release the information?
Yes, they could have known EXACTLY where Caylee's remains were and kept that information secret until after the criminal matter was resolved. Afterwards, Casey should truthfully answer questions about that issue during ZFG's lawsuit but my guess is Casey would do the same thing as OJ did and continue lying about everything.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

[ish]

I must admit I was there:blushing:

One reason I will be eternally jealous of you. If I lived in the vicinity I would have been parked outside watching every bit of that circus as it happened. Should I have been lucky enough to live on the same street, I would have been at my window with binoculars morning til night.

Off topic slightly, what happened to Orlando Salinas, he was covering the case early on and really got into it with Baez a few times?

[enigma™]

One reason I will be eternally jealous of you. If I lived in the vicinity I would have been parked outside watching every bit of that circus as it happened. Should I have been lucky enough to live on the same street, I would have been at my window with binoculars morning til night.

Off topic slightly, what happened to Orlando Salinas, he was covering the case early on and really got into it with Baez a few times?

We would have to call you Gladys Kravitz! :laugh:("Bewitched" - dating myself here.)

[snowflakes]

When she is found guilty and sentenced to die....she gets sent to Lowell

http://www.dc.state.fl.us/facilities/region3/367.html

Is that where she'll go if she gets LWOP or less?

[ish]

We would have to call you Gladys Kravitz! :laugh:("Bewitched" - dating myself here.)

I forgot to say I would have shared everything I saw and heard with my fellow posters!! :laugh:

[really3997]

We would have to call you Gladys Kravitz! :laugh:("Bewitched" - dating myself here.)

Thank you ABNER:thumbsup:

[really3997]

I forgot to say I would have shared everything I saw and heard with my fellow posters!! :laugh:

I did..and sent pics..and drive by daily for updates. will attend the trial if local..Please what more can I do for you. Other than knock on Cindy's door for the Chili recipe.

[margaritaville]

I honestly don't believe it's a case (or cases) of mental illness. I believe it's a symptom of what's happening to us as a society.

Really so you are saying the Anthony's behavior through this is the norm??
Not where I live, they're crazy.... I do not know a soul that acts the way any of them do......thank GOD!!

MOO

[enigma™]

I did..and sent pics..and drive by daily for updates. will attend the trial if local..Please what more can I do for you. Other than knock on Cindy's door for the Chili recipe.

Have I ever told you how much I appreciate you? I have been remiss, you are a treasure!:thumbsup:

[ish]

I did..and sent pics..and drive by daily for updates. will attend the trial if local..Please what more can I do for you. Other than knock on Cindy's door for the Chili recipe.

I appreciate your contributions immensely, they add so much to the boards, would you mind asking for the recipe or just find out if Cindy puts beans in her chili (just kidding!!)

Attending the trial is a dream!! My sister lives in Titusville and I may use a visit to her to kill two birds.

[ish]

Big time womens prison down here......most serious offendors go here

Well only the best for our little Casey! She should be with the elite of the criminals, I'm sure they will welcome her with open arms!!:scared:

[cassidy]

I did..and sent pics..and drive by daily for updates. will attend the trial if local..Please what more can I do for you. Other than knock on Cindy's door for the Chili recipe.

Could ya???

[really3997]

where did everyone go:angry:

[ish]

Hello? Was it something I said?

[penguinlady]

I appreciate your contributions immensely, they add so much to the boards, would you mind asking for the recipe or just find out if Cindy puts beans in her chili (just kidding!!)

Attending the trial is a dream!! My sister lives in Titusville and I may use a visit to her to kill two birds.

Completely OT here.. but I was raised in Titusville and live about 40 minutes south of there.

Sorry..just weird to see the name of that town!

Bye everyone! Been good reading today!

K!