Pawlenty called out on lie re lg #'s of undocumented immigrants get public srvcs

[daniel green]

PAWLENTY: Well, there’s a missing piece here, George. And even if you have language that says illegal immigrants will not be a part of this program — unless you have the enforcement mechanism in place, it doesn’t mean much. In Minnesota, we have laws that say illegal immigrants won’t get many services, but unless somebody actually checks, guess what, they show up and they get the services.

STEPHANOPOULOS: There’s been a study done by the House Oversight Committee that showed these Medicaid provisions, they spent about $8 million to enforce and they caught eight illegal immigrants.

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/13/pawlenty-undocumented-services/

[IaNsSyAlNuE]

It is not a lie in California alone, they spend over 10 BILLION yearly. California alone!


Illegal Immigration Costs California Over Ten Billion Annually
State's "cheap labor" costs average household $1,183 a year

Among the key finding of the report are that the state's already struggling K-12 education system spends approximately $7.7 billion a year to school the children of illegal aliens who now constitute 15 percent of the student body. Another $1.4 billion of the taxpayers' money goes toward providing health care to illegal aliens and their families, the same amount that is spent incarcerating illegal aliens criminals.

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalizatio/a/caillegals.htm

[theal3]

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/09/13/pawlenty-undocumented-services/

Yes, and insurance companies sell policies to illegals. They don't don't ask: are you a citizen when someone comes in signs up and makes the payments. So the GOP can't say millions or all should be checked etc.

But it looks like immigrants are their battle cry, it's getting weary, they always have to have a "them" to bash or use as and excuse to defeat any all legislation that would benefit all of us, and businesses. While there is a branch to handle immigrants and illegals, and paths to citizenship etc: using it as a straw dog for health care is wrong. There pressure should be on businesses who hire and on the law enforcement. They use birth control and abortion issues as other wedge issues too. They'll spend millions to catch a few just "fee" good they got some of "them."

[daniel green]

Yes, and insurance companies sell policies to illegals. They don't don't ask: are you a citizen when someone comes in signs up and makes the payments. So the GOP can't say millions or all should be checked etc.

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Oh, absolutely. Insurance companies sell insurance to undocumented immigrants all the time.

[daniel green]

As Andrea Nill points out, “when Colorado passed a series of stringent measures requiring applicants for most state benefits to prove their immigration status, it cost the state $2 million in its first year alone and state officials could not prove that any undocumented immigrants” applied for the program in the first place. The 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act already prohibits undocumented immigrants from being eligible for most public benefits, restricts the eligibility of legal immigrants, and codifies procedures for verifying eligibility in a way that guaranteed that almost no immigrant would slip through cracks in theory and in practice. In fact, documentation requirements may be weeding out more eligible applicants than illegals. According to a report from the Government Accountability Office, verification requirements have led thousands of Americans eligible for Medicaid to lose coverage and added new administrative costs that “far exceeded the savings.”

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/

[watcher2005]

Key word is "caught."

[Lady_Jean_La]

I don't see the lie?!?:confused:

[R~O~S]

Oh, absolutely. Insurance companies sell insurance to undocumented immigrants all the time.


Depends on the type of insurance. Anything that would be considered an investment vehicle or asset, like whole life, pension or annuity needs to go through a patriot check before issue and before ownership can be changed. That doesn't guarantee they're legal, it just means we're required to practice due diligence.

Health, vision, property & casualty and dental don't go through those checks.

[R~O~S]

:lol: I-9s or whatever the companies accept without a shred of documentation verification?

News FLASH - military VETERANS go through more to open a simple bank account than what the insurance companies ask for identification.


BTW There IS a difference between asking for and authenticating what is presented.

If it wasn't so patently inadequate, would at a minimum think the Big Boy insurance companies would have a better track record than the Little League.

You're obviously uninformed as to what a Patriot check is. But have a great day.

http://www2.gtlaw.com/pub/alerts/2003/fornarisc_05.asp