Torture brothers in horrific violent sex attack on boys to be released at 18

[giraffe]

Torture brothers will 'be free at 18': Sadists who maimed two innocent boys to be given lifelong anonymity

The sadistic young brothers who tortured two boys almost to death will enjoy lifelong anonymity. The pair are likely to be freed from custody within six years, before they reach the age of 18.

Then, say lawyers, they are likely to be granted the same freedom from identification given to the two boys responsible for the 1993 killing of two-year-old James Bulger.

The pair were arrested on April 4 after the nine-year-old boy was found wandering in the former pit village covered in blood and his 11-year-old uncle was discovered unconscious in a nearby wooded ravine.

Both were hit with sticks and bricks, their tormenters dropped a sink on one's head and looped a noose around one child's neck.

The younger boy had a sharp stick rammed into his arm until it went down to the bone. One of his torturers pushed cigarettes into the gaping wound. The other was burned with a cigarette on his eyelids and ear.

Not content with applying extreme physical violence, the sadistic pair also tried to force the boys into performing sex acts on each other

At one point, the older boy was in such agony he pleaded to be allowed to die. 'Leave me, I can't see,' he told his attackers. 'Leave me to die.'

His young relative, meanwhile, tried to ram a stick down his own throat after he was told to 'go away and kill himself' by one of his tormentors :sad::cursing:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1210925/Schoolboy-torturers-left-young-boys-fighting-life-sickening-sex-assault-beatings.html#ixzz0QPsRdmQu

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211284/Torture-brothers-free-18-Sadists-maimed-innocent-boys-given-lifelong-anonymity.html#ixzz0QPs1L6XX

[msgatorslayer]

Torture brothers will 'be free at 18': Sadists who maimed two innocent boys to be given lifelong anonymity

The sadistic young brothers who tortured two boys almost to death will enjoy lifelong anonymity. The pair are likely to be freed from custody within six years, before they reach the age of 18.

Then, say lawyers, they are likely to be granted the same freedom from identification given to the two boys responsible for the 1993 killing of two-year-old James Bulger.

The pair were arrested on April 4 after the nine-year-old boy was found wandering in the former pit village covered in blood and his 11-year-old uncle was discovered unconscious in a nearby wooded ravine.

Both were hit with sticks and bricks, their tormenters dropped a sink on one's head and looped a noose around one child's neck.

The younger boy had a sharp stick rammed into his arm until it went down to the bone. One of his torturers pushed cigarettes into the gaping wound. The other was burned with a cigarette on his eyelids and ear.

Not content with applying extreme physical violence, the sadistic pair also tried to force the boys into performing sex acts on each other

At one point, the older boy was in such agony he pleaded to be allowed to die. 'Leave me, I can't see,' he told his attackers. 'Leave me to die.'

His young relative, meanwhile, tried to ram a stick down his own throat after he was told to 'go away and kill himself' by one of his tormentors :sad::cursing:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1210925/Schoolboy-torturers-left-young-boys-fighting-life-sickening-sex-assault-beatings.html#ixzz0QPsRdmQu

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211284/Torture-brothers-free-18-Sadists-maimed-innocent-boys-given-lifelong-anonymity.html#ixzz0QPs1L6XX

OMG, how horrible. These are just kids. WTH!! Kids are committing some of the worst crimes more and more often.

They need to be locked up for a long time and get some serious psych help. I'd say in America, they'd be looking at Attempted Murder charges and would be in jail way past their 18th birthday.:cursing:

[R~O~S]

OMG, how horrible. These are just kids. WTH!! Kids are committing some of the worst crimes more and more often.

They need to be locked up for a long time and get some serious psych help. I'd say in America, they'd be looking at Attempted Murder charges and would be in jail way past their 18th birthday.:cursing:

Only if they were tried as adults. In most states these boys are too young, they couldn't be tried as adults. They're 11 & 10 years old.

We've had children older than this kill and we're powerless to charge them as adults or hold them beyond their 18th birthday. There's no uniformity in the system, it depends on what state the offender lives in & there's no consensus on what is or isn't right in these cases.

Experts say children under 15 don't understand the consequences of their actions. At the same time the heinous nature of their crimes screams for the justice system to protect society from them.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/archive/2008/03/should_more_juveniles_be_charg.shtml

[KittyMom]

These boys are animals. They will kill again.

The victims will never be the same. Where is the justice for the victims?

[msgatorslayer]

Only if they were tried as adults. In most states these boys are too young, they couldn't be tried as adults. They're 11 & 10 years old.

We've had children older than this kill and we're powerless to charge them as adults or hold them beyond their 18th birthday. There's no uniformity in the system, it depends on what state the offender lives in & there's no consensus on what is or isn't right in these cases.

Experts say children under 15 don't understand the consequences of their actions. At the same time the heinous nature of their crimes screams for the justice system to protect society from them.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/news_cut/archive/2008/03/should_more_juveniles_be_charg.shtml

You're right. I got carried away forgetting exactly how young they are.

[Citygirl]

If that had been me doin those horrific things..I believe my daddy would have taken care of me so I would not have had to go thru a lengthy trial..yep.

[R~O~S]

I've already read about this case, and it deeply sickens me. I think at the bottom of it all lies the reality that kids doing horrific stuff at such an early age shows that they have lives well-founded in perpetrating horrific evil. This is not throwing rocks; this is not wedgies; this is not making someone say "uncle". This is not negligence or recklessness. This is nothing short of bona fide fully-matured cold-blooded depravity coming out of little kids. Can't treat them like kids (slap on the wrist), can't treat them as adults (life imprisonment), so create a new dimension in society's response to "adult" acts committed by kids. A whole new approach -- but I don't know what. Expect more "Columbines" and horrific cases like this .... and prepare.

I think, we'd see this less often if the adults in charge of kids that commit these crimes were held responsible. & I don't mean starting with the horrific crime, I mean from the start. If your kid causes damage you pay the financial cost. If your kid injures someone, you're on notice that if they do it again you'll be charged for using the child as your weapon by lack of oversight and parenting.

Both of these boys were pending interviews with police for a similar crime just days before.

Why exactly were they running loose to do it again and better, having learned the mistakes of their original attack and therefore knowing to take these two victims further away?

They were released to their "foster home", one under an order of supervision, the other on bail pending hearing.

To my mind, order of supervision means exactly that, they stay within your sight as the adult so they can't get into anything more.

This wasn't the first act of violence for this pair, where is the responsibility of the guardian to actually guide? When does the guardian hold criminal responsibility because they didn't bother doing any guiding, supervising, oversight?

If the guardians were held responsible for the actions of minor children under their care, financially and criminally if necessary, all of a sudden we might see the less involved parents take notice.

[Amy]

I do hope that their being given anominity does not preclude police knowing who they are, and where they go. Someone needs to be able to keep an eye on them for a long time to come, to see that they do not have the opportunity to repeat their crimes. Cuz, I don't see the victims living if they offend as adults. And, it is hard to believe that they were "cured" or "reformed" duriing their incarcerations.

[Mamie]

I've already read about this case, and it deeply sickens me. I think at the bottom of it all lies the reality that kids doing horrific stuff at such an early age shows that they have lives well-founded in perpetrating horrific evil. This is not throwing rocks; this is not wedgies; this is not making someone say "uncle". This is not negligence or recklessness. This is nothing short of bona fide fully-matured cold-blooded depravity coming out of little kids. Can't treat them like kids (slap on the wrist), can't treat them as adults (life imprisonment), so create a new dimension in society's response to "adult" acts committed by kids. A whole new approach -- but I don't know what. Expect more "Columbines" and horrific cases like this .... and prepare.

Bolding mine........it sounds like they did create a new dimension-----they get to be released probably before they're 18th birthdays and they get lifelong anonymity. JMO

[Lynden1000]

It's frightening to think that one day soon you could walk right past these two kids on the streets...or the kids who killed Jamie Bulger...or the two kids who shot up their school in Arkansas.

If any of the above were to get in trouble again, would their newfound anonymity prevent us from ever hearing about it, or would all bets be off if they screw up again?

[GentleBreeze]

These boys are animals. They will kill again.

The victims will never be the same. Where is the justice for the victims?

I think they are serial killers in the making.

imo

[R~O~S]

It's frightening to think that one day soon you could walk right past these two kids on the streets...or the kids who killed Jamie Bulger...or the two kids who shot up their school in Arkansas.

If any of the above were to get in trouble again, would their newfound anonymity prevent us from ever hearing about it, or would all bets be off if they screw up again?

Juvenile records in the US are sealed upon attainment of age of majority.

I expect the same is true in the UK.

So yeah, they get a do over, it can't be mentioned and no the prosecutors won't even have access to the information. If they can find the cops involved in the original crime they may be able to get their notes, but they won't be able to use them in court.

[museumgirl]

If these two little monster could do this kind of evil at 11 & 12... yea, let's see what they are capable of in society as adults... GREAT plan...

Their victims have suffered so much and are not even being given the respect of feeling safe on the streets again! NOT FAIR!!!!

[Luckys_Wife]

I don't care how young these kids are they are pure evil. To torture another human being is evil.