Caylee Anthony; Part 3, Monday Sept 7

[Jester]

I especially like the fifth slide ... dad, and the two other male lawyers are in the picture. By the seventh slide ... she's all composed. She's showing emotions on command. When the lawyers wince upon meeting her, she acts all hurt and traumatized, but she can't hold that up for long. She looks tired, but on her game ... somehow missing the point.

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20491513/detail.html

[Jester]

Also note: Borrowing her "cod pieces" are frowned upon. Ms. Lyons insists that Inmate Anthony somehow provide her own crotch coverer. She does not mind sharing a hair piece for a bun here and there - but DO NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF HER GOOD MOOD by mentioning that you lost or misplaced your "cod piece" - cause she HATES when that happens! FGS, Criminals! Prepare yourselves for BATTLE! FIGHT! Full armor. YES, including. the. cod. piece. Dipstick.

New Caylee Thread for Monday ...
http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showthread.php?t=358218

What's a codpieces?

[legalmania]

While everybody is playing detective I worry about you Caylee, I hope you've found your true destiny. I hope you've found the doorway to peace and happiness. I hope you play all day and fly all night, your spirit is free now Caylee. Let the adults get you the justice you deserve.

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[Jester]

Well, Jester, sorry to say this, but - I am sure that baby woke up in lots of LKL WEIRD places to find her mother wasn't there - or at least in her eyesight when she awoke - like during a "Party" in a strange apartment or house...IIRC - didn't Caylee have a BAD reaction when Casey left her line of sight? I think I saw that she threw a fit if she could not even SEE her mom!

Oh, no. To even have to speculate. To even wonder this. Please, God, NO! "Did she ever wake up in some abandoned and creepy house like this one?" SHUDDER. We may never know, sadly.

THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION, though. The invisinanny WAS FREE of charge! This would not cost her a dime. Zanny the kid...hide her. OOPS! PANIC!! WHAT DID YOU DO, CASEY!?!
Yes, she woke up in weird "mom met this guy on the internet last week" places ... wonder if the drums work. Oh look, there's two passed out guys on the couch. That was Caylee's life.

Interesting point. Perhaps Casey was taking Caylee to weird parties with strangers that were drunk or drugged, and Caylee developed a phobia about strangers ... needed to have her mom in her sight. There's a saying about children needing their parents, no matter how bad they are ... and another about children of sociopaths.

[crimeq]

I especially like the fifth slide ... dad, and the two other male lawyers are in the picture. By the seventh slide ... she's all composed. She's showing emotions on command. When the lawyers wince upon meeting her, she acts all hurt and traumatized, but she can't hold that up for long. She looks tired, but on her game ... somehow missing the point.

http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/20491513/detail.html

Slide 6 - BradC is looking at Casey strangely (maybe his real feelings showing)
Slide 11 - Casey is doing the Chicken Dance, I love this one!

[Jester]

An outside of the family person? You have to be careful about bringing in people who have not been mentioned, this could easily turn into reasonable doubt. The tow yard guy said he smelt nothing, as well as no one reporting a strange smell coming from the car that sat in front of the video store for several days.

The tow yard guy knew right away which car it was, and he knew that he'd thrown car contents into the trash ... leading him to dumpster dive for a couple of hours early in the morning in his pajamas.

[crimeq]

A poster on another site said his computer had been running slow - none of his virus checkers picked up anything - he went to a free Symantic security checker site and two Trojans were identified, both in files of old Casey pics he'd downloaded.

I'm running that checker now.

[crimeq]

The tow yard guy knew right away which car it was, and he knew that he'd thrown car contents into the trash ... leading him to dumpster dive for a couple of hours early in the morning in his pajamas.

The guy who towed it from Amscot had a cold and smelled nothing; by the time C&G picked it up at Johnson's, the odor was advanced and the employee did smell it, and you are correct, dumpster-dived to attempt to retrieve the trash bag from the trunk. He knew what the odor was.

[Jester]

Slide 6 - BradC is looking at Casey strangely (maybe his real feelings showing)
Slide 11 - Casey is doing the Chicken Dance, I love this one!

Exactly ... I think Slide 6 is the chicken dance and Slide 11 is the weird looks and George in the background wearing the same yellow t-shirt he's wearing in slide 5. Conway is in there too ... looking very professional.

Casey is looking to Baez, he's looking to Andrea Lyon ... one other attorney us arranging her binder, and another is sceptically looking on, as if to wonder what he's doing there.

[Jester]

The guy who towed it from Amscot had a cold and smelled nothing; by the time C&G picked it up at Johnson's, the odor was advanced and the employee did smell it, and you are correct, dumpster-dived to attempt to retrieve the trash bag from the trunk. He knew what the odor was.

George discussed the smell with the tow yard guy while his wife bitched about the 350-450$ price ... then he apologized to everyone for his bitchy wife ... and they left. She went back to work, and he climbed into the car with the windows down and drove home. Cindy described the car as having a dead body smell, but they parked it in their garage ... imagine the smell in the house.

[crimeq]

George discussed the smell with the tow yard guy while his wife bitched about the price ... then he apologized to everyone for his bitchy wife ... and they left.

I bet George has spent a lot of time apologizing for his bitchy wife, over the years.

[legalmania]

The tow yard guy knew right away which car it was, and he knew that he'd thrown car contents into the trash ... leading him to dumpster dive for a couple of hours early in the morning in his pajamas.

So he was in the truck and didn't smell or see a dead body? There was no evidence in the bag?

[legalmania]

George discussed the smell with the tow yard guy while his wife bitched about the 350-450$ price ... then he apologized to everyone for his bitchy wife ... and they left. She went back to work, and he climbed into the car with the windows down and drove home. Cindy described the car as having a dead body smell, but they parked it in their garage ... imagine the smell in the house.

Those junk yard guys are experienced with death and cars. When someone dies in a car there are these death bugs that come around, even if the person was only in there for a couple of hours, the death bugs come, wonder if there was death bugs around that car?

[legalmania]

A poster on another site said his computer had been running slow - none of his virus checkers picked up anything - he went to a free Symantic security checker site and two Trojans were identified, both in files of old Casey pics he'd downloaded.

I'm running that checker now.

I got no warnings so far, but will stay away from those old links.

[Jester]

I bet George has spent a lot of time apologizing for his bitchy wife, over the years.

By the way the tow yard called it, George seemed very comfortable in that role. George apologized a number of times for everything, including the complaint about the cost ... but we all know that Cindy was paying the whole thing so of course she was miffed ... George acting like Mr Bigman, making it look like his wife was having a normal tantrum about having to be there in the middle of the day, not about having to foot the bill for her daughter again and her useless husband that she decided should drive the death car home with the windows open. She probably said something like "I'll speak to you at home" and headed off to work to tell her work acquaintances that her daughter's car smelled like death and her granddaughter was missing for a month. She was finally convinced by her supervisor to actually call it in ...

[Jester]

Those junk yard guys are experienced with death and cars. When someone dies in a car there are these death bugs that come around, even if the person was only in there for a couple of hours, the death bugs come, wonder if there was death bugs around that car?

Maybe the death bugs were around Amscott, and by the time the car arrived at the tow yard, they were maggots.

[Jester]

So he was in the truck and didn't smell or see a dead body? There was no evidence in the bag?

Actually, he was dumpster diving to locate the bag of garbage that he knew he removed from the car associated with the news reports of the missing child.

He didn't see a dead body and there is no known maggot evidence that has been made public ... but there was evidence of a dead body in the trunk of the car where the garbage was located.

[Julie Dupree]

Good Morning Everyone,

Found this and wanted to share it with all of you. Seems that DC has published his phone records for Nov 15...the day he did the video with JH...well, at least his phone records for one of his phones. IIRC Hoover said he had several?????

http://dgator.com/Documents/Telephone%20Records%2011.15.08.pdf

[legalmania]

By the way the tow yard called it, George seemed very comfortable in that role. George apologized a number of times for everything, including the complaint about the cost ... but we all know that Cindy was paying the whole thing so of course she was miffed ... George acting like Mr Bigman, making it look like his wife was having a normal tantrum about having to be there in the middle of the day, not about having to foot the bill for her daughter again and her useless husband that she decided should drive the death car home with the windows open. She probably said something like "I'll speak to you at home" and headed off to work to tell her work acquaintances that her daughter's car smelled like death and her granddaughter was missing for a month. She was finally convinced by her supervisor to actually call it in ...

Of course your mainly guessing here because there are some things you couldn't possible know. A lot of people get upset at the prices at the tow yard they are outrageous. You say George drove Casey's car home well isn't that why he went?

[legalmania]

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ITA with you crimeeq! I brought this over to this thread from my earlier post about "tow yard guy"...

I think Simon Birch was more than likely QUITE USED TO being around cars that SMELT...you know, cars that have been in fatal accidents with the blood still visible - or cars that have been dredged up out of a swamp in Florida - THAT would certainly have a REEK - I guess what I am saying is that all cars that he saw did not necessarily have a FeBreezee "Fresh as a Daisy" smell to smell.

Maybe, there could be other reasons, too. His nose's "smelling buds" could be graded on the curve if he says that the reason for not saying the smell was something like, he was trying not to upset George any further than he already WAS, MOO. Like saying something like, "well, GA was so devastated that his granddaughter maybe was in the car..." and so when she wasn't physically IN THE TRUNK, I am sure Mr. Birch didn't want to say something like, "Jesus Christ, it smells like a damn dead body was in this car"!

Maybe he was just being diplomatic about mentioning that to Mr. Grieving Detective Anthony at the time. Maybe, because he KNOWS that someone will address that issue when he is in the Witness Chair - AND WILL CERTAINLY ASK him WHY? How can he answer this question on the stand because he told LE that he DIDN'T say the car smelled to high heaven! He could have said, "... well first of all, in my job, I've smelt some reallllllllly bad odors"....OR, "Poor lil' guy! I was just being sympathetic to Grief Stricken George by NOT mentioning that, "hey, the car SMELLS LIKE SOMETHING DIED! I can see that scenario, easily. But that is MOO.

Well I heard George say himself how bad the smell was. For some reason the junk yard guy didn't smell or find anything that day or he would have called LE himself and said it smells like there's a dead body in the car.

[legalmania]

Maybe the death bugs were around Amscot, and by the time the car arrived at the tow yard, they were maggots.

No they don't turn into maggots, they are more like gnats, but smaller almost like no see ums. They don't go away, I think they're attracted to the smell. My friend owned a junk yard and we would play a game, I was always able to tell which cars someone died in.

[crimeq]

Of course your mainly guessing here because there are some things you couldn't possible know. A lot of people get upset at the prices at the tow yard they are outrageous. You say George drove Casey's car home well isn't that why he went?

Have you had your coffee yet :confused:

I've seen your posts on this thread often before, but you're coming across like you've never heard anything about the case before. :confused:

[crimeq]

No they don't turn into maggots, they are more like gnats, but smaller almost like no see ums. They don't go away, I think they're attracted to the smell. My friend owned a junk yard and we would play a game, I was always able to tell which cars someone died in.

Yikes :scared:

[legalmania]

Have you had your coffee yet :confused:

I've seen your posts on this thread often before, but you're coming across like you've never heard anything about the case before. :confused:

It's not that it's just that some posters act like they were there and heard everything that was said and have interviewed all the witnesses. Most of it is just gossip, and what isn't gossip has been so misquoted that it might as well be gossip. I just call em as I read um.

[legalmania]

Good Morning Everyone,

Found this and wanted to share it with all of you. Seems that DC has published his phone records for Nov 15...the day he did the video with JH...well, at least his phone records for one of his phones. IIRC Hoover said he had several?????

http://dgator.com/Documents/Telephone%20Records%2011.15.08.pdf

I bet some people are gonna be really happy about their phone numbers being advertised over the internet.

[Julie Dupree]

I bet some people are gonna be really happy about their phone numbers being advertised over the internet.


Not to much stays private in a murder investigation of a little 2 yr old. Guess now with the internet being what it is, privacy is a thing of the past in things like this.

[msgatorslayer]

G'morning, everyone!!

Another Holiday that Casey is missing!! Not that she deserved to celebrate a holiday for the 'worker bee's' when she was out, but, that wouldn't have stopped her from chugging down some beers and partying with her friends.

"Hey Mom, I need you to watch Caylee tonight. Big event at the Hard Rock":sneaky:

[desmom]

The tow yard guy knew right away which car it was, and he knew that he'd thrown car contents into the trash ... leading him to dumpster dive for a couple of hours early in the morning in his pajamas.

IMO, Simon Burch, the tow yard guy, knew which car it was because it had been in the lot for two weeks.

pages 4-5 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Burch%20%20Simon-0724.pdf

Uhm, and uh, at that point she uh, I said, “Okay, I’ll,” uhm, “do you have,” I asked them if they had the keys and he said, “Yes, I have the keys.” And I said, “Okay, no problem. I’ll uh, I’ll come around and, and get you.” Uhm, the car had been here for two weeks. Uhm, I, as my, one of my jobs here is uh, you know I maintain the yard and make sure all the vehicles are, are correct and were parked where they’re supposed to be. We have a procedure to go through. And I had been around that car a couple of times while it was here.

A car sits here for two weeks I start paying a little bit of attention to it. I’m curious as to maybe why it was here for two weeks. You know, is it a piece of junk? You know, pull the sheet. Why was it towed? I knew this was a removal. Uhm, I had noticed uhm, a smell emanating around the car uhm, on one occasion. I didn’t really think anything of it. We get cars in here with garbage in them, fish in them, all, all the time.

[Postergeist]

and there is no known maggot evidence that has been made public ... but there was evidence of a dead body in the trunk of the car where the garbage was located.

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mornin' Jester- refresh my memory here, are you saying that there are no reports released that show maggots were present?

I guess my memory is getting fuzzy-

I do recall both G & C saying "there were maggots" in the garbage that was in the trunk of the car their daughter drove.

[Julie Dupree]

Mornin' all-

yes, confusing to me as well because I just finished up reading all the posts on previous thread and was going :confused: huh?

so this is addressing what legalmania has brought up, several times this morning-

The continued mention of why didn't the car smell at the video store-and this about the 'no smell'...

well, Casey and Tony were at the video store the night that it's believed is when Caylee had died, or was recently dead.

I doubt that she would smell much at that point

The Amscot where the car was abandoned is not a video store, it's a check cashing place.

I'm sure many have read (I did) the LE interviews with the tow truck employee who DID say the car smelled, that George decided to open the trunk in his presence, that George commented on the smell in his presence and that IRRC, the employee said the smell "was rank".

The car didn't just start magically smelling once George drove it home and it got parked in the garage for Lee to notice the smell as well.

Do you think the car will still have the odor when this finally goes to trial? I wonder if they are keeping it locked in a special place trying to preserve as much of that odor as they possibly can?
I think if the members of the jury are able to smell it, it would go along way in helping them understand why this is such an important piece of crucial evidence.

[desmom]

Well I heard George say himself how bad the smell was. For some reason the junk yard guy didn't smell or find anything that day or he would have called LE himself and said it smells like there's a dead body in the car.

Simon Burch told LE about cars being towed in with groceries, carry-out foods or doggie bags left in the car and the stench they can make after a couple of days.

IMO, the odor would have been masked because the trunk was closed.

page 12 of Simon's interview http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Burch%20%20Simon-0724.pdf

SB: I was kind of half expecting it to smell bad because I had already observed an odor around it….
GW: Right.
SB: …the couple of days earlier when I’d been out in the yard doing my rounds and checking on it. Uhm, but until we opened the car it didn’t have that…
GW: It wasn’t….
SB: …deceased smell.

ETA ~ I do not think there are enough street cops to investigate every car that stinks in a tow yard. jmo

[desmom]

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mornin' Jester- refresh my memory here, are you saying that there are no reports released that show maggots were present?

I guess my memory is getting fuzzy-

I do recall both G & C saying "there were maggots" in the garbage that was in the trunk of the car their daughter drove.

page 6 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3715610/CASEY_ANTHONY_FORENSIC_FILES-PART_001_JANUARY_21_09

At approximately 1100 hrs, the following evidence was collected from the trash bag that was in the trunk of the vehicle, and packaged. At approximately 1648 hrs, Tuesday, 9/9/08, the items were shipped to Dr. Neal Haskell, Forensic Entomologist, Rensseleaer, Indidana.

Item #1; Time 11:00; Description One small vial containing maggots in preservation solution

Item #2; Time 11:00; Description One small vial containing Pupa

[Postergeist]

Do you think the car will still have the odor when this finally goes to trial? I wonder if they are keeping it locked in a special place trying to preserve as much of that odor as they possibly can?
I think if the members of the jury are able to smell it, it would go along way in helping them understand why this is such an important piece of crucial evidence.

I can only hope Julie, that LE has it parked in a climate controlled area, and maybe have it wrapped up in one huge airtight tarp contraption, or enclosed in a container/POD in storage.

But by the time the jury gets to hear the case- that would be what-2/3 yrs after the murder...so it might not have much of anything left, I don't really know. Then there will be jurors that have impaired olfactory glands.

Maybe that could be a new addition to jury selection- make every one take a smell test to see if they all can identify yes- that smells like banana, yes- that smells like roses. For those whose sniffers are defective, they get cut.

[KittyMom]

Ya know, as interesting as the tapes are, I was really hoping for something a little more in the doc dump...like docs?

[JHP]

Mornin' all-

yes, confusing to me as well because I just finished up reading all the posts on previous thread and was going :confused: huh?

so this is addressing what legalmania has brought up, several times this morning-

The continued mention of why didn't the car smell at the video store-and this about the 'no smell'...

well, Casey and Tony were at the video store the night that it's believed is when Caylee had died, or was recently dead.

I doubt that she would smell much at that point

The Amscot where the car was abandoned is not a video store, it's a check cashing place.

I'm sure many have read (I did) the LE interviews with the tow truck employee who DID say the car smelled, that George decided to open the trunk in his presence, that George commented on the smell in his presence and that IRRC, the employee said the smell "was rank".

The car didn't just start magically smelling once George drove it home and it got parked in the garage for Lee to notice the smell as well.

I think it's possible that Caylee was in the backyard when Casey & Tony went to the video store. Either in her house or sandbox. I think Casey wanted a kidnapping movie to study how to proceed with her script.
I think the day she borrowed the shovel was when Caylee went into the trunk.

JMO

[Postergeist]

page 6 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3715610/CASEY_ANTHONY_FORENSIC_FILES-PART_001_JANUARY_21_09

At approximately 1100 hrs, the following evidence was collected from the trash bag that was in the trunk of the vehicle, and packaged. At approximately 1648 hrs, Tuesday, 9/9/08, the items were shipped to Dr. Neal Haskell, Forensic Entomologist, Rensseleaer, Indidana.

Item #1; Time 11:00; Description One small vial containing maggots in preservation solution

Item #2; Time 11:00; Description One small vial containing Pupa

:thumbsup: oh thank you, thank you desmom!

I can only hope that legalmania sees this to see that we are all not "gossiping" about maggots here.

Another question for ya-

last night/early this morning folks were discussing how many felt that Casey used the trunk for Caylee to sleep in/have her drugged when she'd be out partying or with her men friends.

(I actually think that could be the case- and before anyone starts in on Kids Die in Hot Cars- well, the likely scenario is she would put the baby in the trunk at night- evening temps would be cooler, heck, she could've even put a cooler with a bag of ice back there to lower the temps even more)

Deannalynn posted that she may have needed to make frequent trips back & forth to the car when she had Caylee there-

and now to my question, lol (sorry)

Which boyfriend and what time line was it when he said that

Casey would step outside to talk with her mother?

Because of the earlier discussions, I thought wow- that could've been her excuse to go outside and that would give her the opportunity to check on Caylee.

(during the times that it's said that C & G didn't have Caylee, and her friends said that Casey didn't have Caylee with her)

Do you know if those LE statements occurred prior to June 15?

[bchand]

I bet some people are gonna be really happy about their phone numbers being advertised over the internet.

The only number that is show is Dominic Casey's own #.

[desmom]

A week or so ago, someone asked if the gas gauge on Casey's car was ever tested by LE. At the time, I could not find the darn report. I just ran across it.

pages 40 - 41 http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html

Test #1: Without the key in the ignition the gasoline meter was on top of the E. See photo below.

Test #2: With the ignition on the gasoline meter goes down to the E. See photo below.

I proceeded to put 5 gallons of gasoline and the third test was performed.

Test #3: With the ignition on the gasoline meter goes 3/8. See photo below.

Conclusion: The gasoline gauge was working properly.

[bchand]

I can only hope Julie, that LE has it parked in a climate controlled area, and maybe have it wrapped up in one huge airtight tarp contraption, or enclosed in a container/POD in storage.

But by the time the jury gets to hear the case- that would be what-2/3 yrs after the murder...so it might not have much of anything left, I don't really know. Then there will be jurors that have impaired olfactory glands.

Maybe that could be a new addition to jury selection- make every one take a smell test to see if they all can identify yes- that smells like banana, yes- that smells like roses. For those whose sniffers are defective, they get cut.

Don't forget the smell of rotting pizza. (No odor, according to the tests done by the tv station down there.)

[msgatorslayer]

:thumbsup: oh thank you, thank you desmom!

I can only hope that legalmania sees this to see that we are all not "gossiping" about maggots here.

Another question for ya-

last night/early this morning folks were discussing how many felt that Casey used the trunk for Caylee to sleep in/have her drugged when she'd be out partying or with her men friends.

(I actually think that could be the case- and before anyone starts in on Kids Die in Hot Cars- well, the likely scenario is she would put the baby in the trunk at night- evening temps would be cooler, heck, she could've even put a cooler with a bag of ice back there to lower the temps even more)

Deannalynn posted that she may have needed to make frequent trips back & forth to the car when she had Caylee there-

and now to my question, lol (sorry)

Which boyfriend and what time line was it when he said that

Casey would step outside to talk with her mother?

Because of the earlier discussions, I thought wow- that could've been her excuse to go outside and that would give her the opportunity to check on Caylee.

(during the times that it's said that C & G didn't have Caylee, and her friends said that Casey didn't have Caylee with her)

Do you know if those LE statements occurred prior to June 15?

Morning, Postie.

I know many people are for the theory that Casey was drugging Caylee and putting her in the trunk. However, I am not one of them.

George has stated that he and Cindy watched Caylee 99% of the time. Which really contradicts the need for a Zanny that they'd heard of for the past couple of years.

Cindy busted Casey about the No Clothes Party after seeing the picture of her dressed in the flag and was mad because Casey told her she was 'working'.

I believe it was TonE who said Casey would 'work' on her puter at his house.

I'm of the opinion that Casey played 'work' from home most of the time. And wanted her parents to babysit when she went out to party at night. She'd tell them there was an event here, or there, and that she had to be at it.

[desmom]

:thumbsup: oh thank you, thank you desmom!

I can only hope that legalmania sees this to see that we are all not "gossiping" about maggots here.

Another question for ya-

last night/early this morning folks were discussing how many felt that Casey used the trunk for Caylee to sleep in/have her drugged when she'd be out partying or with her men friends.

(I actually think that could be the case- and before anyone starts in on Kids Die in Hot Cars- well, the likely scenario is she would put the baby in the trunk at night- evening temps would be cooler, heck, she could've even put a cooler with a bag of ice back there to lower the temps even more)

Deannalynn posted that she may have needed to make frequent trips back & forth to the car when she had Caylee there-

and now to my question, lol (sorry)

Which boyfriend and what time line was it when he said that

Casey would step outside to talk with her mother?

Because of the earlier discussions, I thought wow- that could've been her excuse to go outside and that would give her the opportunity to check on Caylee.

(during the times that it's said that C & G didn't have Caylee, and her friends said that Casey didn't have Caylee with her)

Do you know if those LE statements occurred prior to June 15?

Re: Caylee was put in the trunk while Casey partied. IMO, it did not happen. If Caylee had been drugged, wouldn't it be detected in her hair? Also, there would always be the possibility Caylee would wake up and cry. IMO, a 2 year old would scream, and draw attention from passerbys.

From reading Casey's text messages, IMO, Caylee was either with Casey or G & C when Casey was out and about prior to the June 16th date.

IIRC, several of Casey's friends stated she would walk outside or walk away when Cindy called before and after June 16, 2008.

jmo

[Postergeist]

I think it's possible that Caylee was in the backyard when Casey & Tony went to the video store. Either in her house or sandbox. I think Casey wanted a kidnapping movie to study how to proceed with her script.
I think the day she borrowed the shovel was when Caylee went into the trunk.

JMO

I too agree with you JHP- she most likely had to be in the backyard hidden from easy view from the 'rents- and not moved until the shovel and all the backing into the garage/driveway, which all happened after C & T went to rent videos.

But the poster was just stuck on repeat about the video store.

<sigh>

btw- have we seen pics of the inside of Casey's closet- or if her bed is elevated enough to place a child under it?

Since that home was pretty well packed- she likely needed to use the covered sandbox or playhouse because

1) it had more 'empty space' than the house/garage did

2) the parents would likely have no reason to bother with either since Caylee wasn't "home".

imo

[msgatorslayer]

Re: Caylee was put in the trunk while Casey partied. IMO, it did not happen. If Caylee had been drugged, wouldn't it be detected in her hair? Also, there would always be the possibility Caylee would wake up and cry. IMO, a 2 year old would scream, and draw attention from passerbys.

From reading Casey's text messages, IMO, Caylee was either with Casey or G & C when Casey was out and about prior to the June 16th date.

IIRC, several of Casey's friends stated she would walk outside or walk away when Cindy called before and after June 16, 2008.

jmo

Cindy's co-workers said Casey would drop Caylee off to her at work.

Casey's texts revealed her frustrations of not being able to get Cindy to babysit. IIRC, she even asked the one dude if he wanted her to bring the 'snot head' or not. I recall messages where she was waiting to see if Cindy would sit or not.

[KittyMom]

A week or so ago, someone asked if the gas gauge on Casey's car was ever tested by LE. At the time, I could not find the darn report. I just ran across it.

pages 40 - 41 http://www.wftv.com/news/18530366/detail.html

Test #1: Without the key in the ignition the gasoline meter was on top of the E. See photo below.

Test #2: With the ignition on the gasoline meter goes down to the E. See photo below.

I proceeded to put 5 gallons of gasoline and the third test was performed.

Test #3: With the ignition on the gasoline meter goes 3/8. See photo below.

Conclusion: The gasoline gauge was working properly.

Ding-dang-it! That mystery body-placer fixed the gas gauge too. :angry:

[Julie Dupree]

I can only hope Julie, that LE has it parked in a climate controlled area, and maybe have it wrapped up in one huge airtight tarp contraption, or enclosed in a container/POD in storage.

But by the time the jury gets to hear the case- that would be what-2/3 yrs after the murder...so it might not have much of anything left, I don't really know. Then there will be jurors that have impaired olfactory glands.

Maybe that could be a new addition to jury selection- make every one take a smell test to see if they all can identify yes- that smells like banana, yes- that smells like roses. For those whose sniffers are defective, they get cut.

It has been rumored that both the state and the defense have people who monitor these boards, and others also, to better gage what people are saying about the case...maybe they saw your remarks:)

[Postergeist]

Morning, Postie.

I know many people are for the theory that Casey was drugging Caylee and putting her in the trunk. However, I am not one of them.

George has stated that he and Cindy watched Caylee 99% of the time. Which really contradicts the need for a Zanny that they'd heard of for the past couple of years.

Cindy busted Casey about the No Clothes Party after seeing the picture of her dressed in the flag and was mad because Casey told her she was 'working'.

I believe it was TonE who said Casey would 'work' on her puter at his house.

I'm of the opinion that Casey played 'work' from home most of the time. And wanted her parents to babysit when she went out to party at night. She'd tell them there was an event here, or there, and that she had to be at it.


Mornin' msgator :smile:

But recall when C & G said that there were times that Casey spent 2/3 nights at a time "over at Zanny's" with Caylee, prior to Father's Day.

That so many x's a month Casey & Caylee would have a sleep over at the 'nanny's'.

It was Jester's post- #569

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=13448346&postcount=569

that the discussion at that time was-

then WHERE was Caylee during those times

(posted by Jeepers and snipped by me)

there's still the night where Caylee was there when the boyfriend went to sleep (Ricardo?), and not there in the morning. Casey said Cindy demanded she take Caylee home, Cindy says it didn't happen.

and this post by happygert-

Originally Posted by happygert
IMO Caylee was being drugged.. cindy and george didnt have Caylee many nights when casey was gone Caylee was with her.. However most of the time no one ever saw Caylee.. No sitter not home with grandparents where was she? IMO casey drugged her and locked her in the trunk many nights..Why do I think she was in the trunk? Because if she was in trunk no one would see her.. Where did casey take and put her in the middle of the night when she told RM that her mom called her in middle of night to take Caylee home? That never happened..Caylee was not taken home that night..Where did casey take her? where did casey put her?


from that same thread discussion- so others are recalling that Caylee wasn't with the g'parents and we know there is no Zanny person connected to Caylee (other than her own mother).

I guess it would help if any of her friends ever said they saw inside the trunk over the past 2 years and noticed things that would could work as bedding- a little pillow, a small comforter, etc.

[JHP]

I too agree with you JHP- she most likely had to be in the backyard hidden from easy view from the 'rents- and not moved until the shovel and all the backing into the garage/driveway, which all happened after C & T went to rent videos.

But the poster was just stuck on repeat about the video store.

<sigh>

btw- have we seen pics of the inside of Casey's closet- or if her bed is elevated enough to place a child under it?

Since that home was pretty well packed- she likely needed to use the covered sandbox or playhouse because

1) it had more 'empty space' than the house/garage did

2) the parents would likely have no reason to bother with either since Caylee wasn't "home".

imo

The reason I based my thinking on Caylee having been outside was IIRC the Cadaver dogs hit on a couple of places out back. (well not according to Cindy) Which leads me to believe that they did.

We did see Caylees room on at least a couple of shows. I think she had a toddler bed. I'm not sure about her closet. They sure did have alot of stuff IMO.

[Barbara fl.]

:thumbsup: oh thank you, thank you desmom!

I can only hope that legalmania sees this to see that we are all not "gossiping" about maggots here.

Another question for ya-

last night/early this morning folks were discussing how many felt that Casey used the trunk for Caylee to sleep in/have her drugged when she'd be out partying or with her men friends.

(I actually think that could be the case- and before anyone starts in on Kids Die in Hot Cars- well, the likely scenario is she would put the baby in the trunk at night- evening temps would be cooler, heck, she could've even put a cooler with a bag of ice back there to lower the temps even more)

Deannalynn posted that she may have needed to make frequent trips back & forth to the car when she had Caylee there-

and now to my question, lol (sorry)

Which boyfriend and what time line was it when he said that

Casey would step outside to talk with her mother?

Because of the earlier discussions, I thought wow- that could've been her excuse to go outside and that would give her the opportunity to check on Caylee.

(during the times that it's said that C & G didn't have Caylee, and her friends said that Casey didn't have Caylee with her)

Do you know if those LE statements occurred prior to June 15?


Good morning everyone,

just stopped in for a moment....

The only reason that I don't believe that Caylee was put in the trunk often is because, nights in florida are worse then up north...we don't even get cool in the early morning hours, it seems to get hotter before it cools down for awhile and then hot again... Even if she had locked Caylee in the car itself, it could have been tragic...more less a trunk..I doubt that Caylee would have made it to 2 with that kind of treatment...

I tried to think that, if she did put her in the trunk and maybe bring down the back seats for more air to go in the trunk and then leave the windows open...but on that sport car model, you can not gain entrance from the rear seat to the trunk....But posibly air could have gotten in...but that still would have been very risky....

Now, the mere fact that Caylee was found with tape completely around her head covering her nose and mouth, stopping all passages for air to enter....that would exclude the theory of her dying accidentally in the trunk of the car....(if that is what is being insinuated)....

It is a mystery as to where she would leave Cylee while out partying...but I'm prone to believe that when she went partying at clubs she would leave Caylee at home with George or Cindy...and when she was at one of her boyfriends she would take Caylee with her to their home....But that's just my theory....I could be wrong (I am known to be wrong sometimes :biggrin:)

[msgatorslayer]

Mornin' msgator :smile:

But recall when C & G said that there were times that Casey spent 2/3 nights at a time "over at Zanny's" with Caylee, prior to Father's Day.

That so many x's a month Casey & Caylee would have a sleep over at the 'nanny's'.

It was Jester's post- #569

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=13448346&postcount=569

that the discussion at that time was-

then WHERE was Caylee during those times



and this post by happygert-



from that same thread discussion- so others are recalling that Caylee wasn't with the g'parents and we know there is no Zanny person connected to Caylee (other than her own mother).

I guess it would help if any of her friends ever said they saw inside the trunk over the past 2 years and noticed things that would could work as bedding- a little pillow, a small comforter, etc.

Keywords, IMO, G & C said. Take them outta the equation. Cindy also said she had address and phone numbers for Zanny. They are trying to prove something that doesn't exist. Zanny's dog exists so Zanny must. We know Zanny exists because Casey and Caylee spent the night with her. Bla, bla, bla. We know Zanny has a drum set and we've seen pics. OPPPS, that's not Zanny's apartment.

I believe one of George's true-truth statements was when he said he and Cindy babysat Caylee the majority of the time. IIRC, it was 99% of the time.

[Postergeist]

Re: Caylee was put in the trunk while Casey partied. IMO, it did not happen. If Caylee had been drugged, wouldn't it be detected in her hair? Also, there would always be the possibility Caylee would wake up and cry. IMO, a 2 year old would scream, and draw attention from passerbys.

From reading Casey's text messages, IMO, Caylee was either with Casey or G & C when Casey was out and about prior to the June 16th date.

IIRC, several of Casey's friends stated she would walk outside or walk away when Cindy called before and after June 16, 2008.

jmo

I still think it's a possibility- it doesn't have to mean she was doped up every night, it's more likely starting around May and maybe it was only a few nights out of a given week, or whenever the neighbors started noticing that her car wasn't at the house much.

Recall that Casey (per her phone records) did not seem to sleep in long consecutive hours (unless she texts while sleeping, somnambultexting?) but whoever she was sleeping w/ may not awake enough to know that she's gotten out of bed 'again'...she was known to out of the abode to have "talk" with her mother.

She may have been able to rouse the child before any screams. It's not known where she'd park her vehicle- maybe away from a lot of foot traffic or easier parks? I'd have no idea how audible sounds from a trunk would be.

IRRC, TH's on the topic have said that the drug wouldn't show unless it had been pretty habitual.

It's all just supposition- she could've used soft restraints on the child, a soft gag/bandana- or put those on the baby after the child was sedated/asleep...

maybe it only happened twice, or six times, or none.

However, if there'd ever been anybody out there that said- yeah, that chick went to her trunk/car a lot in the middle of the night- then I'd say that does sound odd, if she's not spotted retrieving items from the trunk, or placing items in the trunk.

But I do think it is a possibility.

imo

[KittyMom]

I'm back and forth on what she did with Caylee while she partied. I just think that if she were allowing Caylee to be exposed to an endless parade of strangers, she's lucky the baby wasn't molested while she was dancing and playing hostess.

[Postergeist]

It has been rumored that both the state and the defense have people who monitor these boards, and others also, to better gage what people are saying about the case...maybe they saw your remarks:)

oh :ohmy: well I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad one Julie-

well, I guess they could hire the Blue Collar guys to wave "stuff" under the noses of the prospective jurors and say "now tell me if that don't stink"!

I do know that prospective jurors get asked a lot of questions- and boy, some of them spill their guts when they don't have too! *thud*

(from personal experience, I learned more than I cared to of the people in the room w/me)

[Scampi]

I want to know exactly where casey anthony was during
the day when she told cindy and george she was at work. If she
doubled back to the house, after they left for work, did the neighbors
see her car there?

If she went somewhere else with Caylee, where was it? I hope LE
has the answer to this.

[Postergeist]

The reason I based my thinking on Caylee having been outside was IIRC the Cadaver dogs hit on a couple of places out back. (well not according to Cindy) Which leads me to believe that they did.

We did see Caylees room on at least a couple of shows. I think she had a toddler bed. I'm not sure about her closet. They sure did have alot of stuff IMO.

Your recollection is correct JHP- as two different dogs did alert to scents in the backyard (besides the car)

(which Cindy explained away to Greta that it was G's blood and sweat in the backyard and G said in his FBI interview that "the little girl peed" right over there...) <roll eyes>

that just tells me that even tho G has a LE background, apparently neither were familiar in just what dogs are trained to alert to.

imo

[Postergeist]

Keywords, IMO, G & C said. Take them outta the equation. Cindy also said she had address and phone numbers for Zanny. They are trying to prove something that doesn't exist. Zanny's dog exists so Zanny must. We know Zanny exists because Casey and Caylee spent the night with her. Bla, bla, bla. We know Zanny has a drum set and we've seen pics. OPPPS, that's not Zanny's apartment.

I believe one of George's true-truth statements was when he said he and Cindy babysat Caylee the majority of the time. IIRC, it was 99% of the time.

I see your point- but it's doubtful that Casey (even as an adult) could tell her folks that she planned to have a sleepover at a man's apt- so she tells them it's at a female's place "the nanny".

It's a fact that she was sleeping over at men's apts (or boys as she calls them)

but it seems that G & C had no idea that Casey was staying at bf's homes/nor had they met any of the '08 editions.

They admit that Casey would be away overnight or over a wkend with Caylee.

[Julie Dupree]

I too agree with you JHP- she most likely had to be in the backyard hidden from easy view from the 'rents- and not moved until the shovel and all the backing into the garage/driveway, which all happened after C & T went to rent videos.

But the poster was just stuck on repeat about the video store.

<sigh>

btw- have we seen pics of the inside of Casey's closet- or if her bed is elevated enough to place a child under it?

Since that home was pretty well packed- she likely needed to use the covered sandbox or playhouse because

1) it had more 'empty space' than the house/garage did

2) the parents would likely have no reason to bother with either since Caylee wasn't "home".

imo

Does anyone remember if there is a door leading from the garage to the back yard at the Anthony house? I have looked at a couple of pictures but did not see one.
I was wondering if Casey did put Caylee in the yard after she killed her and later picked her up, if she would be able to get her to the trunk without having to carry her through the house.
Did the dogs go on a "sniffing" hunt inside the house?

[doradoll]

Does anyone remember if there is a door leading from the garage to the back yard at the Anthony house? I have looked at a couple of pictures but did not see one.
I was wondering if Casey did put Caylee in the yard after she killed her and later picked her up, if she would be able to get her to the trunk without having to carry her through the house.
Did the dogs go on a "sniffing" hunt inside the house?

I thought when they came back from California and went to the house to pick up the dogs that they exited from a service door on the side of the house from the garage. I remember footage of Cindy carrying the dogs as she came around the corner. Although, I suppose they could have been coming from the back yard.

I live in a similar neighborhood. Half of the houses have a "service door" on the side of the garage and half do not. I wish mine did.

[legalmania]

What crimeq said....DITTO! Please do not tell us that you have fallen under a magical mystical "Anthony" voodoo spell! You would need an exorcism, my dear. (I'm sure someone here is Catholic and can advise you on all the details to perform one on a demon possessed person!) :mad:

I was catching up on some work when I came across this ludicrous post. Who made you ruler of my life, I can side with whomever I want. I'm not a follower especially over speculation and gossip, which seems to be the predominant issues of this board. If you don't like the fact that I use my own brain to come to conclusions then tough. Being a very successful paralegal I have learned to get the facts and evidence first, and that's what I base my decisions on. This song is for all you followers out there:


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[KatieLady]

Does anyone remember if there is a door leading from the garage to the back yard at the Anthony house? I have looked at a couple of pictures but did not see one.
I was wondering if Casey did put Caylee in the yard after she killed her and later picked her up, if she would be able to get her to the trunk without having to carry her through the house.
Did the dogs go on a "sniffing" hunt inside the house?

Yes there is. IIRC if you are facing the garage it is on the left side of the garage wall. Near where the washer and dryer are.

[msgatorslayer]

I see your point- but it's doubtful that Casey (even as an adult) could tell her folks that she planned to have a sleepover at a man's apt- so she tells them it's at a female's place "the nanny".

It's a fact that she was sleeping over at men's apts (or boys as she calls them)

but it seems that G & C had no idea that Casey was staying at bf's homes/nor had they met any of the '08 editions.

They admit that Casey would be away overnight or over a wkend with Caylee.

That's probably the 1% of the time that G&C were not sitting.

Casey's told lies about being in Tampa in hotels. She wouldn't tell her parents she's sleeping over at a boyfriends house with Caylee, I agree. She'd probably say it was 'work' related. Another event, lol. Another hotel.

Or, if there can be any belief in what G&C say, about hearing of the 'Zanny' prior to Caylee being murdered, then maybe they thought Caylee was with the Zanny.

[Lavinia]

2 Hearings Scheduled this week in Casey's civil case.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html

[legalmania]

So, you are thinking that maybe they were on "Parking Wars" based and filmed for television in Philadelphia about their terrible parking problems, and HOW these people have to DEAL with getting their cars back! And, I do mean ALL OF THEM (well...almost, anyway) Pizza and Moan about EVERYTHING ABOUT THE REASONING BEHIND THE INFRACTION ITSELF! And, it is pretty entertaining, and informative, as well - only with an added "special public announcement" about HOW TO PARK - and WHERE NOT TO PARK...and these types of things...and the variety of people IS interesting! Always the same factor though, PEOPLE HATE GETTING THEIR CARS TOWED = PEOPLE HATE PEOPLE WHO TOW THEIR CARS TO THE TOW YARD, too! It made for pretty good TV on a slow night, I guess.

But in this case, if I worked at THAT tow yard, and I saw Cindy Anthony coming...I would slam down my CLOSED window so FAST her bobble head would SPIN, I tells ya! And then I would sound the silent ALARM TO ALL MY FELLOW CO-WORKERS behind the bullet-proof glass Here comes a CRAZY LADY! And boy, does she look clueless...I mean UPSET!

Maybe it's just me.....

You sound really paranoid, she's only about 5ft6' maybe 140lbs. I would collect my money and send her on her way. She doesn't scare me in the least.

[legalmania]

OH MY legalmania! That was not meant to be OFFENSIVE to you - it was me JOKING with everyone here, and that INCLUDES YOU! Don't let me get you riled up about it. I respect your opinion - same as I respect EVERYONE's OPINION!
Good bye for the DAY! (CW, please don't ban me for this! JOKING, I was)!

A joke is when two people are laughing I'm not laughing. However I'm not a rat either. So just try to read what you write first and I'll do the same.

[Barbara fl.]

It has been rumored that both the state and the defense have people who monitor these boards, and others also, to better gage what people are saying about the case...maybe they saw your remarks:)


I don't doubt it for a minute...there were many times that I heard exactly what we were discussing on here on the media or by the defense....it is too much to be coincidence...sometimes it was word for word what someone wrote.....

So I do believe they have people scanning these boards....

[Barbara fl.]

Does anyone remember if there is a door leading from the garage to the back yard at the Anthony house? I have looked at a couple of pictures but did not see one.
I was wondering if Casey did put Caylee in the yard after she killed her and later picked her up, if she would be able to get her to the trunk without having to carry her through the house.
Did the dogs go on a "sniffing" hunt inside the house?


Yes, it's on the side of the garage....one door leads out side and the other leads to the house.....

[happygert]

In the pre-trial hearing of 3/12/09, Jose questioned a guy named Geraldo Bloise, CSI, who processed the car. Bloise testified he sent "maggotts and pupa" out for analysis.

We have not been provided the results of that analysis yet.

IMO that maggot testing is going to be a big piece of the evidence... It will show Caylee's dna in the maggots and that Caylee was decomposing in the trunk..

[happygert]

I don't doubt it for a minute...there were many times that I heard exactly what we were discussing on here on the media or by the defense....it is too much to be coincidence...sometimes it was word for word what someone wrote.....

So I do believe they have people scanning these boards....

I wouldn't put it past cindy to have every single thread we've ever had printed out and in her note books.....

[msgatorslayer]

I wouldn't put it past cindy to have every single thread we've ever had printed out and in her note books.....

Yup, since she was outted by the garbage lady for using 'the other site', she's probably moved on.:blush:

[happygert]

Hoping Judge Strickland has a pretrial date set this week for the Check Fraud case.. could we hope he has the date tomorrow.. I'd like that another double whammy on defense.. when he denies the motion and also sets the fraud case..

[really3997]

I wouldn't put it past cindy to have every single thread we've ever had printed out and in her note books.....

:scared: as I have always said..bail money please

[imc_e]

:scared: as I have always said..bail money please

Really, when the Anthonys leave their house, do they have to drive by the wooded lot where Caylee's body was found?

Anything happening these days at the site?

Thanks if you know.

[Sun]

Hoping Judge Strickland has a pretrial date set this week for the Check Fraud case.. could we hope he has the date tomorrow.. I'd like that another double whammy on defense.. when he denies the motion and also sets the fraud case..

I think that you are dreaming. Good dreams, I might add. I suspect that the defense will make every effort to delay getting a court date set for a pre-trial conference. Judge Strickland will move the criminal check/fraud case along, but I suspect that it won't happen anytime soon due to delaying tactics that the defense will deploy.

[really3997]

Really, when the Anthonys leave their house, do they have to drive by the wooded lot where Caylee's body was found?

Anything happening these days at the site?

Thanks if you know.

They do not have to go that way, since the house is closer to Grandee exit. However I said when the memorial was up they were seen coming from that way. (that was at the point that they said they don't go that way).

Nothing is at the site. School has started so I drive by it twice a day. I thought for sure people would bring back stuff once they were outed but I think they are waiting because RG is working on getting a tree planted. Jmo.

As far as the house it appears that they are away and have been for awhile. Not sure what they are doing but I suspect something will be airing soon. Again time will tell that is just my prediction.

[really3997]

I think that you are dreaming. Good dreams, I might add. I suspect that the defense will make every effort to delay getting a court date set for a pre-trial conference. Judge Strickland will move the criminal check/fraud case along, but I suspect that it won't happen anytime soon due to delaying tactics that the defense will deploy.

I thought that they have one more time they can delay and that is it. Did I understand that correct.

[happygert]

:scared: as I have always said..bail money please

lol..... we'll be sending the collection plate thru cyber space

[imc_e]

They do not have to go that way, since the house is closer to Grandee exit. However I said when the memorial was up they were seen coming from that way. (that was at the point that they said they don't go that way).

Nothing is at the site. School has started so I drive by it twice a day. I thought for sure people would bring back stuff once they were outed but I think they are waiting because RG is working on getting a tree planted. Jmo.

As far as the house it appears that they are away and have been for awhile. Not sure what they are doing but I suspect something will be airing soon. Again time will tell that is just my prediction.


Thanks for your update on the neighborhood.

It must be hard to drive by the site each day.

So the Anthonys are probably out of town, hmm, they must be spinning wildly with the cheque case moving forward. They always come out with something outrageous when we have hearings or new evidence, time will tell.

Thanks again, really. :smile:

[bchand]

Thanks for your update on the neighborhood.

It must be hard to drive by the site each day.

So the Anthonys are probably out of town, hmm, they must be spinning wildly with the cheque case moving forward. They always come out with something outrageous when we have hearings or new evidence, time will tell.

Thanks again, really. :smile:

I wonder if Casey is aware of their comings and goings. There she is, stuck in a jail cell (or dorm), and they are out and about enjoying their lives. Thanks to her!

Oh I forgot, she is having a good time too. You know, with the guards "sneaking her food" etc etc. They like her! They really like her !

[Pruddennce]

Actually, he was dumpster diving to locate the bag of garbage that he knew he removed from the car associated with the news reports of the missing child.

He didn't see a dead body and there is no known maggot evidence that has been made public ... but there was evidence of a dead body in the trunk of the car where the garbage was located.

we do know that maggots and pupa were collected and are mentioned in the defense's motion for sanctions regarding evidence collected.


http://www.wesh.com/download/2009/0126/18565684.pdf

the maggots are mentioned in many documents besides this one.

however, you are correct, we have not seen the results of those tests.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence...*

[really3997]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Pp8s9nxAg

Some of the people that make these are very creative. good to have pics with words

[martha]

Good morning everyone I just come to see if we have anything new here have been so busy this week end I have not been able to keep up so I hope I am not missing anything. Did we have cindy on the board yesterday? or someone elce from the def.team. It seemed like some one was on here from the an;s team. Just guessing. I sure am missing all of you so maybe by tomorro I will be able to get back on and keep up. Little CAYLEE needs us all to see she gets justice. I don;t get much news on this case any where but here.ng has stoped covering it and I don;t know why. Maybe she will start back soon. The an;s may have got to her some way.not sure on that.jmho:wub:

[happygert]

Thanks for your update on the neighborhood.

It must be hard to drive by the site each day.

So the Anthonys are probably out of town, hmm, they must be spinning wildly with the cheque case moving forward. They always come out with something outrageous when we have hearings or new evidence, time will tell.

Thanks again, really. :smile:

Yes they sure do..or maybe they are planning another scheme to get the media off of casey...

[Pruddennce]

In the FBI report there IS maggot evidence, removed from the car. They do have maggots, even if it's just one intact one, they have it and if you go through the reports, (time consuming) it is there.

Bugged

thanks, you are correct..which is why I keep mentioning it..lol

it was also noted there was no food/meat in the trash in her car....small remnants of cheese on wrappers, but NO PIZZA and NO MEAT.

and of course, the impound guy attested to the fact that flies came out when the trunk was opened up. there was insect activity and it was not the common house fly as evidenced by maggots and pupa.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[martha]

I thought that they have one more time they can delay and that is it. Did I understand that correct.hi honey so you have to go by the an;s house everyday? I guess they or on a vac. since they have plenty of money now they can travel all they want to. I bet casey don;t know what they or doing. I just wondered if cindy every goes to see her dad now. They don;t seem to have any friends and their familys do not back them in this case so where ever they or I am sure it is just g and c and maybe lee and m.I think they may be enjoying it now but wait until trila boy will they be unhappy then when they get on the stand and try to lie out of everything they have done. I sure wish I could be there for the trial.jmho:wub:

[bchand]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Pp8s9nxAg

Some of the people that make these are very creative. good to have pics with words

Thanks really. That's another good one.

[Lavinia]

Good morning everyone I just come to see if we have anything new here have been so busy this week end I have not been able to keep up so I hope I am not missing anything. Did we have cindy on the board yesterday? or someone elce from the def.team. It seemed like some one was on here from the an;s team. Just guessing. I sure am missing all of you so maybe by tomorro I will be able to get back on and keep up. Little CAYLEE needs us all to see she gets justice. I don;t get much news on this case any where but here.ng has stoped covering it and I don;t know why. Maybe she will start back soon. The an;s may have got to her some way.not sure on that.jmho:wub:

Good morning, Miss Martha. :wub: I hope you are enjoying the holiday weekend. No, we didn't have anyone from the defense on the boards yesterday, (that I know of). The posters I think you may be thinking about from yesterday are both old posters here, one with a new nic name.

[really3997]

hi honey so you have to go by the an;s house everyday? I guess they or on a vac. since they have plenty of money now they can travel all they want to. I bet casey don;t know what they or doing. I just wondered if cindy every goes to see her dad now. They don;t seem to have any friends and their familys do not back them in this case so where ever they or I am sure it is just g and c and maybe lee and m.I think they may be enjoying it now but wait until trila boy will they be unhappy then when they get on the stand and try to lie out of everything they have done. I sure wish I could be there for the trial.jmho:wub:

No I don't have to but I make a turn on the street since I am on Chickasaw anyway daily. Besides it is the one job that I have that I cannot get laidoff of. ( well at least I hope:patriot:)

[imc_e]

I wonder if Casey is aware of their comings and goings. There she is, stuck in a jail cell (or dorm), and they are out and about enjoying their lives. Thanks to her!

Oh I forgot, she is having a good time too. You know, with the guards "sneaking her food" etc etc. They like her! They really like her !

I think she is very angry at her Mother, who is living it up.

I can only imagine what Casey thought of that race car Cindy drove a ways back, not to mention her hair do's, jewelry, new clothes, MONEY.

[imc_e]

Yes they sure do..or maybe they are planning another scheme to get the media off of casey...

Thats been their pattern, hasn't it.

They prefer us to talk about them, than to be talking about the murderer.

We'll see what they cook up this time.

[Postergeist]

That's probably the 1% of the time that G&C were not sitting.

Casey's told lies about being in Tampa in hotels. She wouldn't tell her parents she's sleeping over at a boyfriends house with Caylee, I agree. She'd probably say it was 'work' related. Another event, lol. Another hotel.

Or, if there can be any belief in what G&C say, about hearing of the 'Zanny' prior to Caylee being murdered, then maybe they thought Caylee was with the Zanny.

(whew- was reading up on the Homework help thread, oh my word- I think a brawl broke out)

I do agree that on a whole- the A's did the majority of the babysitting of Caylee.

I wish tho we just had more history to look at- as far as when did Casey start making a habit of saying she had to be 'out of town'....

because it seems that all her faux road trips didn't happen until after Caylee was murdered and she could not produce a live child.

Possibly all her other reasons for being gone overnight prior to the murder was simply staying with friends and that she never used a 'work' excuse before.

If some things of the A's can be believed, IRRC, they have no memory of Casey & Caylee being away from the home for longer than 3 days prior to June.

From what LE has been told from friends and the A's- Casey was lucky because she got to "work" from home so much...

then June rolls around and gee- Casey had her plate full of "work" related issues to deal with that kept her away from the home that only the A's heard that fib, none of her friends did.

[imc_e]

No I don't have to but I make a turn on the street since I am on Chickasaw anyway daily. Besides it is the one job that I have that I cannot get laidoff of. ( well at least I hope:patriot:)

I can imagine that all the neighbors have that house on their radar. I know I sure would.

Strange that they continue living there, considering Caylee was murdered there. I couldn't do that. Its haunted.

[desmom]

I too agree with you JHP- she most likely had to be in the backyard hidden from easy view from the 'rents- and not moved until the shovel and all the backing into the garage/driveway, which all happened after C & T went to rent videos.

But the poster was just stuck on repeat about the video store.

<sigh>

btw- have we seen pics of the inside of Casey's closet- or if her bed is elevated enough to place a child under it?

Since that home was pretty well packed- she likely needed to use the covered sandbox or playhouse because

1) it had more 'empty space' than the house/garage did

2) the parents would likely have no reason to bother with either since Caylee wasn't "home".

imo

Caylee's bedroom pics 4 - 7 http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/caseyanthony/18741575/detail.html

[Postergeist]

In the pre-trial hearing of 3/12/09, Jose questioned a guy named Geraldo Bloise, CSI, who processed the car. Bloise testified he sent "maggotts and pupa" out for analysis.

We have not been provided the results of that analysis yet.

ty calalily- that's something I missed or forgot as well.

this shows again that it falls into the facts and evidence folder vs. speculation and gossip folder.

(but I always thought we could speculate on this board)

:smile:

imo

[desmom]

Does anyone remember if there is a door leading from the garage to the back yard at the Anthony house? I have looked at a couple of pictures but did not see one.
I was wondering if Casey did put Caylee in the yard after she killed her and later picked her up, if she would be able to get her to the trunk without having to carry her through the house.
Did the dogs go on a "sniffing" hunt inside the house?

Anthony's garage pics 12 - 17 http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/caseyanthony/18741575/detail.html

pic 13 appears to be a service door to house

pics 16 & 17 appears to be a service door on side of garage. You can see the neighbor's car in their driveway.

jmo

[nana6]

I want to know exactly where casey anthony was during
the day when she told cindy and george she was at work. If she
doubled back to the house, after they left for work, did the neighbors
see her car there?

If she went somewhere else with Caylee, where was it? I hope LE
has the answer to this.

I was thinking that maybe Lee knew she was not working and that maybe she spent time at his house

[really3997]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEhr2dq_sPI

I don't remember seeing all of this. Just bits and pieces..

I love the comment "yeah, what my mom said" But I don't remember Cindy's comment of who watched Caylee when Casey went out.

[Postergeist]

I don't doubt it for a minute...there were many times that I heard exactly what we were discussing on here on the media or by the defense....it is too much to be coincidence...sometimes it was word for word what someone wrote.....

So I do believe they have people scanning these boards....

well dang- could that be a form of plagiarism then, if they don't give credit to who said it/where they read it?

:mad:

come on! give the posters their due credit, maybe they don't have to follow a TOS? lol

[happygert]

Thats been their pattern, hasn't it.

They prefer us to talk about them, than to be talking about the murderer.

We'll see what they cook up this time.

Yes it has.. Im sure they're baking something...lol..

[Postergeist]

IMO that maggot testing is going to be a big piece of the evidence... It will show Caylee's dna in the maggots and that Caylee was decomposing in the trunk..

I'm hoping for that gert- and that all the jurors will have good common sense and none with be enamored with the defendant and lose focus on Caylee and why they are there.

[really3997]

Anthony's garage pics 12 - 17 http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/caseyanthony/18741575/detail.html

pic 13 appears to be a service door to house

pics 16 & 17 appears to be a service door on side of garage. You can see the neighbor's car in their driveway.

jmo

Everytime I see these pics I tell myself my house is not that packed. Thank god I am tosser and not a keeper. Just cuz you have a nook or cranny does not mean you need to put something there

[Postergeist]

thanks, you are correct..which is why I keep mentioning it..lol

it was also noted there was no food/meat in the trash in her car....small remnants of cheese on wrappers, but NO PIZZA and NO MEAT.



<snipped>

now hold up Pru- it seems to me that Dr. Lee said something about a ham sandwich (will this be the first case ever that the ham sandwich gets indicted? hehe)...thought he found one in the trunk- along with all kinds of extra things that were allegedly "missed".

:rolleyes:

[martha]

No I don't have to but I make a turn on the street since I am on Chickasaw anyway daily. Besides it is the one job that I have that I cannot get laidoff of. ( well at least I hope:patriot:)
Thank you so much for responding to me. I would be like you I would go by there everyday. Just me. I guess the an;s will be back in town this next week with the hearing coming up. Thank you for keeping us up dated on what is going on at the an;s house and street. I wonder a lot of the time how they still live there and if all the stuff of CAYLEE is still there in the house and back yard. I really don;t think I could walk out in that back yard every day and look at all her stuff. when I think about it and her room I just start to cry. I know she is ok now. Just can;t help but wish she was going to get to enjoy her life here on earth but I know she is in a better place. jmho:wub:

[msgatorslayer]

Everytime I see these pics I tell myself my house is not that packed. Thank god I am tosser and not a keeper. Just cuz you have a nook or cranny does not mean you need to put something there

Amen to that!!

Cindy is a compulsive shopper, IMO.

[Pruddennce]

(whew- was reading up on the Homework help thread, oh my word- I think a brawl broke out)

I do agree that on a whole- the A's did the majority of the babysitting of Caylee.

I wish tho we just had more history to look at- as far as when did Casey start making a habit of saying she had to be 'out of town'....

because it seems that all her faux road trips didn't happen until after Caylee was murdered and she could not produce a live child.

Possibly all her other reasons for being gone overnight prior to the murder was simply staying with friends and that she never used a 'work' excuse before.

If some things of the A's can be believed, IRRC, they have no memory of Casey & Caylee being away from the home for longer than 3 days prior to June.

From what LE has been told from friends and the A's- Casey was lucky because she got to "work" from home so much...

then June rolls around and gee- Casey had her plate full of "work" related issues to deal with that kept her away from the home that only the A's heard that fib, none of her friends did.

I tend to believe that Casey was not away from the home a whole lot prior to May.

referencing Amy's statement: in the beginning of Casey's new friend(s) relationship, she was bringing Caylee along to hang out, putting her to bed on a couch. Amy did express she felt it was not appropriate to have a small child around during the 'partying', but it appears no one said anything to her, not a HUGE deal.

I dont think it occurred alot, but by the end of May, the 'no clothes party', Casey made a work excuse so Cindy would watch Caylee. Cindy found out she lied, found the flag pic on the computer.

hence, casey started to fabricate 'work emails' so she could go hang out, party, whatever, and leave Caylee with Cindy.

Casey stole from grandmom Shirley when Caylee turned two years old. Prior to that she asked Ryan for money and he gave it to her (she claims she had to pay rent to her parents).

Cindy, IMO was the queen snoop, yet the information she gathered was pointless. She did not take any action to safeguard Caylee's daily life....or substantiate where she was all day for almost two years. GA claims he was pretty sure she didnt have a job. yet they ignored it.....

IMO the huge fight was about Casey not having a job, her lies and the thefts within the family. IMO, there might have been some accusations as to Caylee's wellbeing, maybe a few too many bruises or just looking tired like we have seen. just maybe......

or....they witnessed Casey's rage, with Caylee in the middle of the argument....the pawn....the threats....

IMO, we have seen her rage with regard to "I WANT TO SPEAK' during the meldown visitation. imagine that without chains, free..... IMO, those arguments were HOT with Caylee witnessing them AND being part of her rage...perhaps physically....

IMO that is what Cindy is hiding....the manner in which Casey dragged Caylee out of there<---that is MO, I believe she left with Caylee that nite.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[martha]

I can;t remember the date that casey left with CAYLEE to bond with her but up until that time I think c and g keep CAYLEE most of the time. I think then is when it changed for casey not to have a baby s.all the time. I think that is what made casey so mad at cindy was because she was going to make casey keep CAYLEE all the time and cindy was going to stop baby s for casey. Now that is the time I just don;t know what casey was doing with her. maybe taking her to partys.maybe taking her to bf and staying all night just don;t know.casey had no apt. I really don;t understand what casey did all day and night after she left cindy;s house. casey was living out of her car and who knows where elce.what she was doing with CAYLEE I just can;t understand. I would really love to know after casey left cindy;s house what she was doing all day and night. she sure was not working.just like cindy;s post said no money no place to stay even cindy did not know what they were doing. now had that been me boy my gb would have been at my house casey could have gone on by her self . I would have had my gb with me.jmho:wub:

[Postergeist]

Thats been their pattern, hasn't it.

They prefer us to talk about them, than to be talking about the murderer.

We'll see what they cook up this time.

from what I recall- it didn't appear that there was any actual posting on the case itself, nor mention of Caylee either,

but I didn't study 'em too hard.

:smile:

btw- anyone know if the audio tapes have been transcribed anywhere yet? tia

[martha]

Amen to that!!

Cindy is a compulsive shopper, IMO.
yes I T A and she could not say anything to casey and george for spending money because she did it all the time. you can tell by the looks of the house. That is the reason c and g or so happy with all the money they or getting now.jmho:wub:

[Lavinia]

Amen to that!!

Cindy is a compulsive shopper, IMO.

But it's all KRAP! I just looked through the pics again and it made me feel claustrophobic. Look how packed to the rafters it was when Casey was there. Where the heck are they putting Lee, Mallory, and the Milstead's and all *their* KRAP? Surely they didn't throw away all of Casey and Caylee's tuff. :confused:

[Postergeist]

Caylee's bedroom pics 4 - 7 http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/caseyanthony/18741575/detail.html

thanks hon! Good to go- I've viewed these before, and sure enough- we do get to see inside of Casey's closet

(Cindy reported that Caylee slept in her mother's room more often than she did her own)

and I can see that there isn't really much room inside of Casey's closet for her to stuff Caylee. But I guess she could just mound a pile of clothers on top (pic 35 is closet) or slide her under the bed, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say-

she had stuff up under there as well.

[Postergeist]

Everytime I see these pics I tell myself my house is not that packed. Thank god I am tosser and not a keeper. Just cuz you have a nook or cranny does not mean you need to put something there

o/t I do hope tho that if your things are in good condition- you donate them and not just toss it to the curb.

(raising hand- guilty of rescuing things from the curb) :blushing:

[msgatorslayer]

But it's all KRAP! I just looked through the pics again and it made me feel claustrophobic. Look how packed to the rafters it was when Casey was there. Where the heck are they putting Lee, Mallory, and the Milstead's and all *their* KRAP? Surely they didn't throw away all of Casey and Caylee's tuff. :confused:

Yes, I agree. Alot of KRAP. Cindy probably can't turn down a sale. JMO from having a Mother with shopping and hoarding compulsion.

It's not the 'item' that is being bought. Just the good deal with the price. The possessions make the person feel important. With out them, they're nothing. They can't just throw away useless KRAP, it has meaning to them. And they buy, buy, buy, more!!

[jammies]

Everytime I see these pics I tell myself my house is not that packed. Thank god I am tosser and not a keeper. Just cuz you have a nook or cranny does not mean you need to put something there


Good grief! Looks like Cindy stopped at every truck stop in FLA and bought her decor!
I had a neighbor like her. House was filled to the BRIM with cheap crap. Made me claustrophobic to be in there.

[Postergeist]

Anthony's garage pics 12 - 17 http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/caseyanthony/18741575/detail.html

pic 13 appears to be a service door to house

pics 16 & 17 appears to be a service door on side of garage. You can see the neighbor's car in their driveway.

jmo

thanks again desmom- I know a few remembered a door

(and gosh, all my grown life I've always called it a "man door", ours is inconveniently placed on the back side of the house that is completely fenced in with no gate)

[desmom]

Mornin' msgator :smile:

But recall when C & G said that there were times that Casey spent 2/3 nights at a time "over at Zanny's" with Caylee, prior to Father's Day.

That so many x's a month Casey & Caylee would have a sleep over at the 'nanny's'.

It was Jester's post- #569

http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=13448346&postcount=569

that the discussion at that time was-

then WHERE was Caylee during those times



and this post by happygert-



from that same thread discussion- so others are recalling that Caylee wasn't with the g'parents and we know there is no Zanny person connected to Caylee (other than her own mother).

I guess it would help if any of her friends ever said they saw inside the trunk over the past 2 years and noticed things that would could work as bedding- a little pillow, a small comforter, etc.

I have been through all my little tickler notes and googled every which way I can think of and the only time I see where Casey and Caylee were not at home before the June 15-16 date was June 9 when they spent the night at Ricardo's. ( page 9 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Morales,%20Ricardo0725.pdf )

I have a note that states Cindy was out of town at that time. The problem, I can't figure out where I got the info. :tonguewag:

jmo

[happygert]

I'm hoping for that gert- and that all the jurors will have good common sense and none with be enamored with the defendant and lose focus on Caylee and why they are there.

IMO casey is losing all her so called "sex appeal" the longer she sit's behind bars the more she'll lose.. The clothes she's wearing now days doesn't help her either.. nor does her greasy hair.. just take a look back down memory lane look how much she's changed in a year.. just waiting for the results of what another year will bring.. I dont think any one will be in aww of her. If you look at her eyes in videos of court hearing she even looks like shes crossed eyed in some... Just keep thinking how Betty Broderick looked in first trial and what she looked like in 2nd one..

[AnniePie]

Have you had your coffee yet :confused:

I've seen your posts on this thread often before, but you're coming across like you've never heard anything about the case before. :confused:

It's obviously one of her "weird" days. LKL

[Pruddennce]

<snipped>

now hold up Pru- it seems to me that Dr. Lee said something about a ham sandwich (will this be the first case ever that the ham sandwich gets indicted? hehe)...thought he found one in the trunk- along with all kinds of extra things that were allegedly "missed".

:rolleyes:

lo, P.....:D hammy....


his credibility is down the tubes after Specter...... what happened in that case can be brought up during this trial, is my understanding....his resume is now flawd. I suspect Dr Lee will not be testifying in this case.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[happygert]

lo, P.....:D hammy....


his credibility is down the tubes after Specter...... what happened in that case can be brought up during this trial, is my understanding....his resume is now flawd. I suspect Dr Lee will not be testifying in this case.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

he was down the tubes in the MP case too.... too much blood in stairway to be a murder......WTH.. he's totally is a paid expert show him the green and he'll say anything you want him too..so is cyril wecht.. Not so sure MB isn't following the rest of their paths either..

[imc_e]

he was down the tubes in the MP case too.... too much blood in stairway to be a murder......WTH.. he's totally is a paid expert show him the green and he'll say anything you want him too..so is cyril wecht.. Not so sure MB isn't following the rest of their paths either..


Thanks, I was going to say that about Henry Lee.

How shameful that he spit ketchup across the prosecutions desk, and made a joke, even had the jurors laughing, meanwhile the victims daughter in the courtroom was not laughing because it was her mothers blood that Henry Lee was joking about.

DISgraceful.

[desmom]

2 Hearings Scheduled this week in Casey's civil case.

http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html

Thanks.

Tuesday, Casey's attorneys will try to get the case dismissed. According to the link this is a "renewed motion". Is this a if at first you do not succeed, try, try again type situation?

Wednesday, Morgan & Morgan will attempt to get G & C to answer more questions.

Cindy refused to answer the question if Casey used her credit card without Cindy's permission. George refused to answer questions about Casey stealing from them and provide the information "relevant to Gonzalez and investigator discovered while working for G & C."

Will Cindy raise her hand in court on Wednesday to ask a question? Will George storm out of the court room again?

jmo

[desmom]

Casey Anthony: Leonard Padilla, associate capture family's absurdity
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-leonard-padilla-associate-capture-the-absurdity.html

From the link: "Inside the Anthony Household" -- it's like an episode of "The Twilight Zone."

[happygert]

Thanks.

Tuesday, Casey's attorneys will try to get the case dismissed. According to the link this is a "renewed motion". Is this a if at first you do not succeed, try, try again type situation?

Wednesday, Morgan & Morgan will attempt to get G & C to answer more questions.

Cindy refused to answer the question if Casey used her credit card without Cindy's permission. George refused to answer questions about Casey stealing from them and provide the information "relevant to Gonzalez and investigator discovered while working for G & C."

Will Cindy raise her hand in court on Wednesday to ask a question? Will George storm out of the court room again?

jmo

I think it's also the day that M&M are asking for dc to be held in contempt and for fees for not showing for depos.. Heck this could be a good week this week...

UMM really said all's quite at the A's no one home.. wonder if they have bc with them.. Just wondering if he will show up Tuesday or will he be mia with the A's.. or maybe another back problem..:wink: :wink:

Last time when they were suppose to be in court g & c were in OHIO around that time either a day or to before the hearing.....umm do you think maybe bc fibbed about his back cause his clients were out of town...

IMO dc doesnt want to answer questions he may be asked who sent him to the woods to look for Caylee.. imo he's trying to protect cindy

[Postergeist]

Pru- always love your logical posts and how you put things all in order.

Poor Amy had more sense to think that a little one didn't need to be where Casey was dragging her to. Too bad Casey never figured that out before she resorted to her fatal choice.

So it seems like Cindy was only mad about the 'lie' of work/party seeing the NCP pics- or think too that Cindy was starting to resent having to keep Caylee in the evenings?

Casey could've always said it was a gathering of co-workers and not a family event, but that she needed to attend.

I agree with ya on what topics were likely covered in the huge fight- and from many pics it does appear that Caylee didn't have the appearance of a well-rested child, so maybe Cindy (being a nurse) actually picked up on that?

And it sure does seem that the family is hiding how that evening ended and fibbing on why Caylee & Casey were no longer at their home after that date.

[Julie Dupree]

Anthony's garage pics 12 - 17 http://www.wesh.com/slideshow/caseyanthony/18741575/detail.html

pic 13 appears to be a service door to house

pics 16 & 17 appears to be a service door on side of garage. You can see the neighbor's car in their driveway.

jmo

Thanks desmom....I had forgotten about this batch.
Guess she could have got the laundry bag from the back yard to the trunk...I wonder if she did????
If she did kill Caylee and left her in the back yard over night and went out with Tony that means Caylee spent the first few hours of her death in the back yard. No wonder the dogs hit there. (This makes so sad typing this:(...)
I wonder if we will ever know what really happened, and when it happened.

[need2no]

I have been through all my little tickler notes and googled every which way I can think of and the only time I see where Casey and Caylee were not at home before the June 15-16 date was June 9 when they spent the night at Ricardo's. ( page 9 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Morales,%20Ricardo0725.pdf )

I have a note that states Cindy was out of town at that time. The problem, I can't figure out where I got the info. :tonguewag:

jmo

I know how you feel Des, I've got some of 'those' notes in my folders as well...too bad I didn't keep the link where I got the info....so frustrating.

Cindy's birthday is June 5th and she was on vacation that week. On MONDAY June 9th Cindy returned to work, right?

Do we know if casey was home this week when Cindy was on vacation? I've always been of the opinion she wasn't. Didn't Lee say casey did NOT come over for Cindy's b'day, but Caylee was there?

[martha]

Thanks, I was going to say that about Henry Lee.

How shameful that he spit ketchup across the prosecutions desk, and made a joke, even had the jurors laughing, meanwhile the victims daughter in the courtroom was not laughing because it was her mothers blood that Henry Lee was joking about.

DISgraceful.You or so right about henry lee I never want to see him on a show again. he is really not very smart. He was so silly when he went to check on the george smith case.I really don;t know why they ask him to go aboard that ship. it was a waste of time.jmho

[Pruddennce]

Pru- always love your logical posts and how you put things all in order.

Poor Amy had more sense to think that a little one didn't need to be where Casey was dragging her to. Too bad Casey never figured that out before she resorted to her fatal choice.

So it seems like Cindy was only mad about the 'lie' of work/party seeing the NCP pics- or think too that Cindy was starting to resent having to keep Caylee in the evenings?

Casey could've always said it was a gathering of co-workers and not a family event, but that she needed to attend.

I agree with ya on what topics were likely covered in the huge fight- and from many pics it does appear that Caylee didn't have the appearance of a well-rested child, so maybe Cindy (being a nurse) actually picked up on that?

And it sure does seem that the family is hiding how that evening ended and fibbing on why Caylee & Casey were no longer at their home after that date.

Likewise P :)

Cindy was a snoop. part-time. full-time she just kept plowing on with her employment.....case in point: after picking up that car, she doesnt consider that an EMERGENCY..she has to be told by co-workers to GO HOME and CALL THE POLICE? at that moment in time, it was CONFIRMED Casey was without a vehicle starting with June 30th.

CAUSE FOR ALARM<---since they never heard caylee's voice again after she left the house.

two plus two? she was also advised she was local on June 3rd. two plus two plus two? no car, local.

another factor: never contacted any of her friends....yet prior to this event she had no problem calling Ryan and whining about her thefts and called her a sociopath.

slandering Casey was her outlet.....action/reaction, but not productive responses. she did nothing. tells her own mother SHE will pay her back...PROBLEM SOLVED?

just another way to push reality out the door. Casey will continue to be free to victimize someone else: AND THAT SHE CERTAINLY DID.

she had a 'clean' opportunity to let the system hold Casey responsible....she should have told her mother to press charges so that Casey would be held accountable.

next action: investigate her employment. confirm it. if she was unemployed then steps needed to be taken to safeguard Caylee's wellbeing. IOW, what the hey was she doing with Caylee for almost two years?

the baby needed attention and playmates. outings. something outside of the anthony compound several times a week, even if meant daycare/playcare.

IMO, Caylee had poor speech for an almost 3 year old. she babbled like a one year old who is just starting to put sentences together. I admit my opinion is weak, because my son was talking at 9 months. however, by 2.5 he was certainly looking at pages from a book and repeating what was read to him. Caylee was babbling.

she was not getting the attention she needed daily. IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[Postergeist]

I have been through all my little tickler notes and googled every which way I can think of and the only time I see where Casey and Caylee were not at home before the June 15-16 date was June 9 when they spent the night at Ricardo's. ( page 9 http://www.cfnews13.com/uploadedFiles/Morales,%20Ricardo0725.pdf )

I have a note that states Cindy was out of town at that time. The problem, I can't figure out where I got the info. :tonguewag:

jmo

thanks for always going the extra effort des, you are such a gem to this board! :wub:

And with that- is the big AH HA! as to why Casey, Cindy and George all orig. from the get-go and for what, about a week later

all referred to June 9th as the last time Caylee was seen-

because this night must've been a pretty big darn deal to all of them, since June 9th was when Casey left the A's home with Caylee and spent the night with Ricardo.

But Ricardo does say that back towards the end of Feb. Caylee and Casey were staying over at his place 3-4 x a week when they were kicking it were bf/gf

Ricardo She (Casey) lived with her parents at the time. She’d come over and stay over probably three or four times a week. Um, most of the time with Caylee. Um, very rarely without her.

(they all shared the same bed together)

(relationship ends middle of April, so it sounds like about 2 months she is staying over 3-4 x a nite w/ Caylee)

one time she met him in Tampa, w/o Caylee and she left that evening- he was attending a wedding


sure helps to revisit these old statements, thanks again!

[happygert]

Likewise P :)

Cindy was a snoop. part-time. full-time she just kept plowing on with her employment.....case in point: after picking up that car, she doesnt consider that an EMERGENCY..she has to be told by co-workers to GO HOME and CALL THE POLICE? at that moment in time, it was CONFIRMED Casey was without a vehicle starting with June 30th.

CAUSE FOR ALARM<---since they never heard caylee's voice again after she left the house.

two plus two? she was also advised she was local on June 3rd. two plus two plus two? no car, local.

another factor: never contacted any of her friends....yet prior to this event she had no problem calling Ryan and whining about her thefts and called her a sociopath.

slandering Casey was her outlet.....action/reaction, but not productive responses. she did nothing. tells her own mother SHE will pay her back...PROBLEM SOLVED?

just another way to push reality out the door. Casey will continue to be free to victimize someone else: AND THAT SHE CERTAINLY DID.

she had a 'clean' opportunity to let the system hold Casey responsible....she should have told her mother to press charges so that Casey would be held accountable.

next action: investigate her employment. confirm it. if she was unemployed then steps needed to be taken to safeguard Caylee's wellbeing. IOW, what the hey was she doing with Caylee for almost two years?

the baby needed attention and playmates. outings. something outside of the anthony compound several times a week, even if meant daycare/playcare.

IMO, Caylee had poor speech for an almost 3 year old. she babbled like a one year old who is just starting to put sentences together. I admit my opinion is weak, because my son was talking at 9 months. however, by 2.5 he was certainly looking at pages from a book and repeating what was read to him. Caylee was babbling.

she was not getting the attention she needed daily. IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

ITA.. Pru... my grandson talks all the time never say anything you dont want him repeating.. He even tells you what he wants to eat..and he's 2 1/2 now but been talking for a long ,long time.

[Postergeist]

IMO casey is losing all her so called "sex appeal" the longer she sit's behind bars the more she'll lose.. The clothes she's wearing now days doesn't help her either.. nor does her greasy hair.. just take a look back down memory lane look how much she's changed in a year.. just waiting for the results of what another year will bring.. I dont think any one will be in aww of her. If you look at her eyes in videos of court hearing she even looks like shes crossed eyed in some... Just keep thinking how Betty Broderick looked in first trial and what she looked like in 2nd one..

lol- you're right gert- while Casey is losing her looks, there's her mom-

Cindy's Got Her Groove Back

Casey just hasn't been looking like her younger, spunkier self at all- and yet, her parents have seemed to be revitalized with their looks. hmm

[Lavinia]

thanks for always going the extra effort des, you are such a gem to this board! :wub:

And with that- is the big AH HA! as to why Casey, Cindy and George all orig. from the get-go and for what, about a week later

all referred to June 9th as the last time Caylee was seen-

because this night must've been a pretty big darn deal to all of them, since June 9th was when Casey left the A's home with Caylee and spent the night with Ricardo.

But Ricardo does say that back towards the end of Feb. Caylee and Casey were staying over at his place 3-4 x a week when they were kicking it were bf/gf

Ricardo She (Casey) lived with her parents at the time. She’d come over and stay over probably three or four times a week. Um, most of the time with Caylee. Um, very rarely without her.

(they all shared the same bed together)

(relationship ends middle of April, so it sounds like about 2 months she is staying over 3-4 x a nite w/ Caylee)

one time she met him in Tampa, w/o Caylee and she left that evening- he was attending a wedding


sure helps to revisit these old statements, thanks again!

Postie, did you notice the missing poster on the wall in this batch of home pics a lot of us just looked at again? It must have been one of the early posters because it still had the date June 9th when she went missing. :rolleyes: I guess it didn't really matter. :glare:

[Postergeist]

lo, P.....:D hammy....


his credibility is down the tubes after Specter...... what happened in that case can be brought up during this trial, is my understanding....his resume is now flawd. I suspect Dr Lee will not be testifying in this case.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

<crossing my fingers Pru that he won't be> heck, I thought he'd lost it during the Peterson West trial...omg!

and what's the word on "Koby"- the Dr. that NG used to always have on, then cut her ties w/ him when he aligned himself w/ the defense- is he still in the mix?

[Postergeist]

You're welcome! BTW, I always shook my head when JB and LKB were discussing this subject. They both repeatedly pronounced "Pupa" as "Poopa".

I think it's so funny because LKB holds herself out as such a forensic guru.

Here is an audio of the correct English pronounciation of pupa:

http://www.howjsay.com/index.php?word=pupa&submit=Submit

If next time we hear them discussing this subject and they pronounce it correctly, we will know someone on Team Anthony is hanging out here. :tonguewag:


omg- too funny! thanks, I didn't know they were doing that- hehe.

Well there is the pu pu platter- think they are just getting confused with that somehow?

Good idea to post the link- and to see what happens, lol.

[happygert]

lol- you're right gert- while Casey is losing her looks, there's her mom-

Cindy's Got Her Groove Back

Casey just hasn't been looking like her younger, spunkier self at all- and yet, her parents have seemed to be revitalized with their looks. hmm

All that money they are making off of their dead granddaughter..No working, no worrying about if casey's going to rob them blind.. no competing for men's attention when casey's around..Notice that everyone cindy surrounds herself around is a man?..oh except SM and she's not a threat to cindy..

[desmom]

I know how you feel Des, I've got some of 'those' notes in my folders as well...too bad I didn't keep the link where I got the info....so frustrating.

Cindy's birthday is June 5th and she was on vacation that week. On MONDAY June 9th Cindy returned to work, right?

Do we know if casey was home this week when Cindy was on vacation? I've always been of the opinion she wasn't. Didn't Lee say casey did NOT come over for Cindy's b'day, but Caylee was there?

Yes, Cindy's b-day is June 5 and she went back to work on June 9. Lee told LE when he stopped that day, Caylee was there and Casey was not there. page 41 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540065.pdf

I found the video of Cindy's interview with OCSO re the time line. 23:40 on the clock. Caylee was with Cindy every single day of her vacation. They finger painted, watch movies, played in the pool. LE said sandbox and Cindy said no, the sandbox was a big deal so they didn't do sandbox every day. Cindy blah, blahs for a while and LE gets her back on the lst week of June around 32:00 on the clock. Cindy stayed with her mom on May 30 and 31 because her dad was bad. Cindy went to the beach June 7 and 8th, LE said that is line with Ricardo's account. Cindy insists Caylee was with her. Cindy doesn't ever recall Caylee being gone overnight except for an occasional overnight at Zanny's. Then Cindy turns around and said starting in May, Caylee did stay one or two nights in a row at Zanny's. LE did ask Cindy about Caylee and Casey spending the night at Ricardo's, Cindy called demanding Caylee be brought home and Cindy could not recall that ever happening. http://www.wftv.com/video/17565512/index.html

Cindy also said in the evening generally they (Casey and Caylee) were at home, but there were a lot of nights Casey told Cindy she had to work.

Funny, Cindy said no events stuck out to her in May. Her work calendar may help her recall something. Apparently, the "anything but clothes party" and Casey draped in the American flag did not "stick" out for Cindy. :rolleyes:

jmo

[Postergeist]

ya got my agreement again Pru!

Sure seemed like a few reasons for Cause for Alarm for Cindy.

II was recently posting about her speech over the wkend because one of our posters was a speech pathologist (crimeq).

Wonder why Cindy and Casey never checked into any free or low cost day/play care in their area?

Used to be that the Y had fun stuff for little ones during the summer, and gosh, lots of churches typically had Wed. mornings for "Mother's Day Out".

Shame they weren't interested in attending formal church services before Caylee was murdered, or little Caylee could've been going to the church's pre-school, or if they offer Vacation Bible School for 2 yr olds, or the children's services on Sundays.

Then she'd be able to be exposed to other little ones her age- string those macaroni necklaces. :)

Well we know why Cindy didn't contact Casey's friends during the missing time frame- she hadn't met any of these current batch of folks and didn't know they existed...

wait, she hadn't met Zanny either but insists she exists- <puzzling>

I think for at least 1 1/2 years with Caylee that during the day she was camped out at her home w/ or w/o G being there, or cruising the stores/malls/hanging out at the park.

[iluvmua]

Q: What is the difference in the Orange County Jail where Casey is currently being held and Lowell Annex in Ocala Florida?

doe they have less freedom in prison than they do in jail or something?

so no matter what Casey gets, I assume Lowell Annex is where she is going to spend the rest of her life at?

or would she be sent somewhere else if she gets LIPWP? (Life in prison W/O Parole)

[summer]

Casey Anthony: Leonard Padilla, associate capture family's absurdity
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-leonard-padilla-associate-capture-the-absurdity.html

From the link: "Inside the Anthony Household" -- it's like an episode of "The Twilight Zone."

OMG, the comments are priceless.

[Postergeist]

All that money they are making off of their dead granddaughter..No working, no worrying about if casey's going to rob them blind.. no competing for men's attention when casey's around..Notice that everyone cindy surrounds herself around is a man?..oh except SM and she's not a threat to cindy..

yanno that has to give them some relief right there- that Casey isn't thieving from them, using C's credit cards. Cindy did say last year she wasn't "worried" for Casey, as she knew where she was and was safe.

Except now I think they do worry because Casey has shut them out, no communication, no little waves and "hi's" in the court room.

I agree with ya, it did seem that those two did compete with men, no matter the relation, blood or not.

eww- I never did that with my girlfriends, we all seemed to like a different "type" of guy.



btw- Hi ya Martha always good to "see" you- I'm reading everyone's posts, just feel like I'm hogging the thread, sorry.

[girlspell]

Q: What is the difference in the Orange County Jail where Casey is currently being held and Lowell Annex in Ocala Florida?

doe they have less freedom in prison than they do in jail or something?

so no matter what Casey gets, I assume Lowell Annex is where she is going to spend the rest of her life at?

or would she be sent somewhere else if she gets LIPWP? (Life in prison W/O Parole)

Because they keep dragging the trial around and putting it off on and on for years in the future, I'd say if and when Casey gets around to be convicted, she'll get 60 plus years behind bars with 15 years knocked off for all the time she's been in jail awaiting trial.

To me, she's already in prison. :tongueside:

[Postergeist]

Postie, did you notice the missing poster on the wall in this batch of home pics a lot of us just looked at again? It must have been one of the early posters because it still had the date June 9th when she went missing. :rolleyes: I guess it didn't really matter. :glare:

hi ya Lavinia- (btw, I think you should try to market a Tubesock Vader doll, hehe)

I did notice that poster and the date- oh my.

You're right- it didn't really matter, there were no other outside witnesses that personally knew Casey and Caylee that could say they saw Caylee from mid-June on- heck, they never even said they saw a "look-alike Caylee".

When Cindy made her barrage of 911 calls on July 15, they all could've said that Caylee was "taken" that day for that matter and they maybe wouldn't have even been tripped up on that w/ LE.

[KittyMom]

OMG, the comments are priceless.

"HAL'S NOTE: I think you just insulted the Elephant Man"...

ROFL :lol:

[Postergeist]

Yes, Cindy's b-day is June 5 and she went back to work on June 9. Lee told LE when he stopped that day, Caylee was there and Casey was not there. page 41 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540065.pdf

I found the video of Cindy's interview with OCSO re the time line. 23:40 on the clock. Caylee was with Cindy every single day of her vacation. They finger painted, watch movies, played in the pool. LE said sandbox and Cindy said no, the sandbox was a big deal so they didn't do sandbox every day. Cindy blah, blahs for a while and LE gets her back on the lst week of June around 32:00 on the clock. Cindy stayed with her mom on May 30 and 31 because her dad was bad. Cindy went to the beach June 7 and 8th, LE said that is line with Ricardo's account. Cindy insists Caylee was with her. Cindy doesn't ever recall Caylee being gone overnight except for an occasional overnight at Zanny's. Then Cindy turns around and said starting in May, Caylee did stay one or two nights in a row at Zanny's. LE did ask Cindy about Caylee and Casey spending the night at Ricardo's, Cindy called demanding Caylee be brought home and Cindy could not recall that ever happening. http://www.wftv.com/video/17565512/index.html


Cindy also said in the evening generally they (Casey and Caylee) were at home, but there were a lot of nights Casey told Cindy she had to work.

Funny, Cindy said no events stuck out to her in May. Her work calendar may help her recall something. Apparently, the "anything but clothes party" and Casey draped in the American flag did not "stick" out for Cindy. :rolleyes:

jmo


bbm

thanks for finding that des!

This was what I was inquiring about earlier on the thread

and my sincerest apologies for getting Jester's name wrong, I just read back and saw where I typed "Jeepers", oops eta- we do have a poster Jeepers tho

Jester mentioned in this post http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=13448346&postcount=569

Absolutely.
Tracy says GHB
Casey says roofies (rohypnol)
Tracy says ether
Casey says chloroform

Fun Game! I too believe that Casey was habitually drugging Caylee with chloroform, and one time she accidentally killed her. I too think she drugged her and put her in the trunk - there's still the night where Caylee was there when the boyfriend went to sleep (Ricardo?), and not there in the morning. Casey said Cindy demanded she take Caylee home, Cindy says it didn't happen. Maybe Caylee was chloroformed and started to vomit ... maybe Casey took her to the car, where she passed out again. Maybe Casey had already seen Caylee overdosed on chloroform. She couldn't admit that she was drugging her child, so she hid the body.

There was motive, to some extent, in that she did think it was okay to drug her child, and recklessly used a potentially lethal drug. She was willing to take the chance that it resulted in death for the sake of partying. After Caylee died, she indulged in partying ... as if Caylee was having a very long sleep. The heart on the duct tape ... symbolizing I love you but I don't want you ... another memory in the scrap book.

bbm

With you supplying the earlier link of Ricardo's statement- it seems as tho both the girls were at his apt. when he woke up in the morning.

and yes, some of the things that "stick" out to Cindy and those that didn't- amazing.

So you've got Casey upset over her missing blackjack, then Grandma upset over a missing lanyard and zip drive, big priorities those things.


gotta head out for now & get some bills paid- enjoyed all the helpful links & discussion, thanks everyone

[really3997]

o/t I do hope tho that if your things are in good condition- you donate them and not just toss it to the curb.

(raising hand- guilty of rescuing things from the curb) :blushing:

Yes I have a garage sale. Tell my kids that they can keep the money off of their toys and stuff to buy one item. What ever I don't sell goes to the whomever. mostly to the womens and childrens center. I toss the garbage.

[nana6]

lol- you're right gert- while Casey is losing her looks, there's her mom-

Cindy's Got Her Groove Back

Casey just hasn't been looking like her younger, spunkier self at all- and yet, her parents have seemed to be revitalized with their looks. hmm

I so agree with you on her looks/ I just thought when I saw her the other day on tv that she had gone way down hill in her appearance. I did not notice any makeup at all and her hair looked greasy to me. I am not in any way trying to be mean here, but I looked at the other pics o fher in past courtroom appearances and boy she sure looked bad compared to her eairlier trips to court. No to mention I think she was really tearing up, in the past I thought she was faking it.

[martha]

yanno that has to give them some relief right there- that Casey isn't thieving from them, using C's credit cards. Cindy did say last year she wasn't "worried" for Casey, as she knew where she was and was safe.

Except now I think they do worry because Casey has shut them out, no communication, no little waves and "hi's" in the court room.

I agree with ya, it did seem that those two did compete with men, no matter the relation, blood or not.

eww- I never did that with my girlfriends, we all seemed to like a different "type" of guy.



btw- Hi ya Martha always good to "see" you- I'm reading everyone's posts, just feel like I'm hogging the thread, sorry.Hi honey you or a great poster and you do not hog anything. I love to read your post. I really don't know what I would do with all you good posters. I am like the rest of you all I just want the one that killed CAYLEE put away for the rest of her life. At my age I just hope I live to see that happen. All I know for sure is all the an;s or lying and trying to cover up things they don;t want us to know. Wonder where the an;s will get a job once the money stops. The one reason I want the trial to be over is so the money will stop. casey is sitting in jail and that is good. What date did casey leave with CAYLEE to bond with her? I just can;t remember when that was. jmho:wub:

[martha]

Yes I have a garage sale. Tell my kids that they can keep the money off of their toys and stuff to buy one item. What ever I don't sell goes to the whomever. mostly to the womens and childrens center. I toss the garbage. You or such a nice person and that is the way my daughter does it but now I just bag everything up and take it to sa. I just don;t like to fool with a sale. I really don;t think george would have thrown away those things sent to CAYLEE but for the reason he knew she was not coming home. He knew the day he picked up the car if not before that. I would never have thrown away something sent to my gb. That was awful of him to do that. just like it was awful for lee to take down thing put up for CAYLEE. I know they or not in debt now but when this all started they were. They all needed money bad. Thanks to a sweet little girl that the whole world loves now they don;t need money. How they can lay down and sleep at night I will never know.jmho:wub:

[joint-heir]

page 6 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/3715610/CASEY_ANTHONY_FORENSIC_FILES-PART_001_JANUARY_21_09

At approximately 1100 hrs, the following evidence was collected from the trash bag that was in the trunk of the vehicle, and packaged. At approximately 1648 hrs, Tuesday, 9/9/08, the items were shipped to Dr. Neal Haskell, Forensic Entomologist, Rensseleaer, Indidana.

Item #1; Time 11:00; Description One small vial containing maggots in preservation solution

Item #2; Time 11:00; Description One small vial containing Pupa


Do I recall that the trash bag in the trunk was from Tone's apt? Is this where they took maggots & pupa? I also remember something about a paper towel having "stuff" on it, that was being tested. Or were these maggots & pupa from something else in the trunk? I get really confused over some of these issues. Thanks

[desmom]

bbm

thanks for finding that des!

This was what I was inquiring about earlier on the thread

and my sincerest apologies for getting Jester's name wrong, I just read back and saw where I typed "Jeepers", oops eta- we do have a poster Jeepers tho

Jester mentioned in this post http://boards.insessiontrials.com/showpost.php?p=13448346&postcount=569



bbm

With you supplying the earlier link of Ricardo's statement- it seems as tho both the girls were at his apt. when he woke up in the morning.

and yes, some of the things that "stick" out to Cindy and those that didn't- amazing.

So you've got Casey upset over her missing blackjack, then Grandma upset over a missing lanyard and zip drive, big priorities those things.


gotta head out for now & get some bills paid- enjoyed all the helpful links & discussion, thanks everyone

bolding mine... What is the importance of the lanyard and zip drive? Cindy mentioned it several times.

Cindy has repeatedly said Casey was not alone at any time after they made the 911 call to LE, BUT Lee said otherwise.... pages 47 - 48 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540065.pdf

Lee Anthony: Casey had uhm, uh, uh, advised me on the 15th while I was waiting to fill out my statement before I could go to Tony's house to pick up Casey's stuff. I was in the garage because they had separated my folks from my sister. I sat in the garage with my sister.

EE: With the car right?

Lee Anthony: With the car right there. And it was atrocious.

EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).

Lee Anthony: Uhm, I couldn't be there any more for a minute or two and I had to keep going back inside because the smell was so bad......

If Lee and Casey were in the garage and Lee kept leaving, who did that leave alone in the garage? Did Cindy search all those tubs, boxes and shelving in the garage looking for the lanyard and zip drive? Did she find it? Why is Cindy so stuck on what happened to the lanyard and the zip drive?

jmo

[desmom]

Do I recall that the trash bag in the trunk was from Tone's apt? Is this where they took maggots & pupa? I also remember something about a paper towel having "stuff" on it, that was being tested. Or were these maggots & pupa from something else in the trunk? I get really confused over some of these issues. Thanks

IIRC, Tone did identify the trash.

Re: paper toweling tests "were harbouring fly pupae which was the reason for the extraction - to determine what could have attracted the flies to the paper towels." page 7 http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/06/19/6551.6591.pdf

jmo

[Sun]

bolding mine... What is the importance of the lanyard and zip drive? Cindy mentioned it several times.

Cindy has repeatedly said Casey was not alone at any time after they made the 911 call to LE, BUT Lee said otherwise.... pages 47 - 48 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540065.pdf

Lee Anthony: Casey had uhm, uh, uh, advised me on the 15th while I was waiting to fill out my statement before I could go to Tony's house to pick up Casey's stuff. I was in the garage because they had separated my folks from my sister. I sat in the garage with my sister.

EE: With the car right?

Lee Anthony: With the car right there. And it was atrocious.

EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).

Lee Anthony: Uhm, I couldn't be there any more for a minute or two and I had to keep going back inside because the smell was so bad......

If Lee and Casey were in the garage and Lee kept leaving, who did that leave alone in the garage? Did Cindy search all those tubs, boxes and shelving in the garage looking for the lanyard and zip drive? Did she find it? Why is Cindy so stuck on what happened to the lanyard and the zip drive?

jmo

Cindy could have been fixated on the lanyard, because to "her" it meant that Casey had a J.O.B. IMO, it was one of the props that Casey used to "prove" that she had a J.O.B. to Cindy.

Have we seen in the discovery, anything about a zip drive?

[crimeq]

I wonder if Casey is aware of their comings and goings. There she is, stuck in a jail cell (or dorm), and they are out and about enjoying their lives. Thanks to her!

Oh I forgot, she is having a good time too. You know, with the guards "sneaking her food" etc etc. They like her! They really like her !

In fact, I think Tracy reported said that Casey said "they just love her" at the jail. :huh:

[101Spots]

Cindy could have been fixated on the lanyard, because to "her" it meant that Casey had a J.O.B. IMO, it was one of the props that Casey used to "prove" that she had a J.O.B. to Cindy.

Have we seen in the discovery, anything about a zip drive?

I have seen this reaction in others. By fixating on one detail, they managed to ignore the big picture. Cindy's big picture says Casey killed Caylee, so she avoids that by chasing the lanyard and zip drive.

[crimeq]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9Pp8s9nxAg

Some of the people that make these are very creative. good to have pics with words

Great, thanks! :biggrin:

[Pruddennce]

ya got my agreement again Pru!

Sure seemed like a few reasons for Cause for Alarm for Cindy.

II was recently posting about her speech over the wkend because one of our posters was a speech pathologist (crimeq).

Wonder why Cindy and Casey never checked into any free or low cost day/play care in their area?

Used to be that the Y had fun stuff for little ones during the summer, and gosh, lots of churches typically had Wed. mornings for "Mother's Day Out".

Shame they weren't interested in attending formal church services before Caylee was murdered, or little Caylee could've been going to the church's pre-school, or if they offer Vacation Bible School for 2 yr olds, or the children's services on Sundays.

Then she'd be able to be exposed to other little ones her age- string those macaroni necklaces. :)

Well we know why Cindy didn't contact Casey's friends during the missing time frame- she hadn't met any of these current batch of folks and didn't know they existed...

wait, she hadn't met Zanny either but insists she exists- <puzzling>

I think for at least 1 1/2 years with Caylee that during the day she was camped out at her home w/ or w/o G being there, or cruising the stores/malls/hanging out at the park.

yes, its quite interesting that SUDDENLY the anthonys are religious....ya find god when things go bad? but not when things are so-so? phonys.

P, I was speaking of Casey's old friends, or friends that Cindy 'thought she still had'...several weeks prior to Caylee going missing, Cindy called up Ryan P to WARN him about casey...WARN him she was a thief. and proceeded to give her opinion: SHE's A SOCIOPATH. stay away from her.

however, that didnt stop Ryan from contacting Casey and inviting her to his aunt's picnic which was saturday, father's day weekend. she didnt show up.

therefore, when Casey was AWOL, and she sent Lee out on July 3rd, she didnt proceed to contact those that she knew were friends with her. found out she was local, then nothing.

Annie, Brittany (who by the way Cindy was front and center at her house the very next day telling her that Casey was thieving, baiting her out of the house and that nothing of Caylee's was taken during the sneak-in's...)

Jesse: she could have contacted him as well. in fact, casey anticipated that call from Cindy to Jesse. She warned him not to talk to Cindy.

Cindy did not contact any of these people.

if she did, they may have told her, oh she hangs at Fusian, its all over her facebook/ms. might have given her SOME CLUE...which is what she is always seeking.

it would have been a very easy starting point...

instead, she opts to call someone she never met, finding her name on a resume in Casey's car. doenst make any sense.

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[crimeq]

I think she is very angry at her Mother, who is living it up.

I can only imagine what Casey thought of that race car Cindy drove a ways back, not to mention her hair do's, jewelry, new clothes, MONEY.

Does anyone know what kind of reading material is available in the jail? Newspapers, magazines? I know Casey has her little jailey transistor radio but don't know if she has any visual access to see what Cindy's doing, wearing, etc.

Just knowing about it must chap her, but I'd love to think that Casey sees pics of all this too :-)

Also, do we know for sure that Casey's court wardrobe comes out of what's available in the closet at the jail, and nobody can bring clothing to her to wear to court? That would explain why she's wearing this awful ugly clothes to her hearings. Can anyone confirm this, that she's only able to use clothes from the jail closet?

[Scampi]

I thought it was a stroke of genius to put the OC and lee into that garage, where she had to inhale the decomposition odor of the daughter she murdered.

I bet that was done on purpose, by the investigative officers.

[desmom]

Cindy could have been fixated on the lanyard, because to "her" it meant that Casey had a J.O.B. IMO, it was one of the props that Casey used to "prove" that she had a J.O.B. to Cindy.

Have we seen in the discovery, anything about a zip drive?

While googling I found this:

beginning on page 62, line 17 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-07/48369770.pdf

Cindy Anthony: ....Anyway there was a bag in the front seat of the car that I recognized. Casey's car when we picked it up from the tow place. And it was her bag that she took to work. There's a lanyard missing that I told the Sheriff's Department that's missing. Uh, it was there um, when we picked up the car. It was there with all of Casey's effects the night the Sheriffs came. It was missing the next morning when we were trying to find it to give to the detectives. And i said there was a lot of police in and out of our home. I don't know if someone picked up or not. It's very distinct and Casey wore it all the time. It Shamrocks green and white. It was green Shamrocks with white beads and then it had her original Universal I.D. on it. Which you know she had since um, she graduated from high school. Anyway um, that's missing and I don't know where it's at it was there. And it was with this bag and in the bag there was a few other items. I can't remember a belt and couple other things. The police have all that we took inventory. That was the only thing that was missing. Casey never had an opportunity to go into that garage. Because as soon as I brought her home I followed her into the house. My son stayed with her while I was dialing the police. And the police kept her ever since. She was never out of their sight so she never had an opportunity to go into the garage. And it was over we have an ice chest over by um, our washer and dryer in our garage...... (note: it continues if you want to read more)

I already posted what Lee told OCSO about being in the garage with Casey upthread. IIRC, Casey also sent some text messages to Tone after she had returned from a drive with LE. She talked about getting a shower. IMO, there was plenty of opportunity for Casey to have taken the lanyard.

I also found this: The Missing Shamrock Lanyard
http://blinkoncrime.com/2009/03/17/caseycaylee-anthony-case-the-missing-shamrock-lanyard/

If these photos are of the missing lanyard, :lol: X 2! They look like the St. Paddy's Day necklaces the area bars pass out every year. They buy them by the gross.

jmo

[AbbyNormal]

thanks for always going the extra effort des, you are such a gem to this board! :wub:

And with that- is the big AH HA! as to why Casey, Cindy and George all orig. from the get-go and for what, about a week later

all referred to June 9th as the last time Caylee was seen-

because this night must've been a pretty big darn deal to all of them, since June 9th was when Casey left the A's home with Caylee and spent the night with Ricardo.

But Ricardo does say that back towards the end of Feb. Caylee and Casey were staying over at his place 3-4 x a week when they were kicking it were bf/gf

Ricardo She (Casey) lived with her parents at the time. She’d come over and stay over probably three or four times a week. Um, most of the time with Caylee. Um, very rarely without her.

(they all shared the same bed together)

(relationship ends middle of April, so it sounds like about 2 months she is staying over 3-4 x a nite w/ Caylee)

one time she met him in Tampa, w/o Caylee and she left that evening- he was attending a wedding


sure helps to revisit these old statements, thanks again!I wonder if Ricardo or Amy was going to get blamed in the beginning? Then LE found the Father's day video.....

[kelloggirl]

Cindy could have been fixated on the lanyard, because to "her" it meant that Casey had a J.O.B. IMO, it was one of the props that Casey used to "prove" that she had a J.O.B. to Cindy.

I agree, with the added bonus of implying that 1)someone other than Casey had access to it and stole it and/or 2)LE stole it to make Casey look bad and/or 3)continue ignoring the HUGE herd of elephants in the parlor all standing on their hind legs and trumpeting "Casey did it!"

[crimeq]

Amen to that!!

Cindy is a compulsive shopper, IMO.

We've never seen pics of her ordinary life, shopping for groceries or clothes (and she's sure got some new ones).

We haven't really heard of any shopping at all except with the infamous JCP card.

[Bala]

Thanks.

Tuesday, Casey's attorneys will try to get the case dismissed. According to the link this is a "renewed motion". Is this a if at first you do not succeed, try, try again type situation?

Wednesday, Morgan & Morgan will attempt to get G & C to answer more questions.

Cindy refused to answer the question if Casey used her credit card without Cindy's permission. George refused to answer questions about Casey stealing from them and provide the information "relevant to Gonzalez and investigator discovered while working for G & C."

Will Cindy raise her hand in court on Wednesday to ask a question? Will George storm out of the court room again?

jmo
I'm waiting for the judge to decide whether this is a real deposition or not. G&C plus BC and Baez all thumbed their noses at this judge and his court lets see how he responds. I hope he slaps them all with an attempt of court ruling.

[desmom]

I found it! I found it! I found the Zip Drive!

LE and Casey are discussing her cell phone records beginning on page 60 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036055/2008-0716-Casey-Anthony-Police-Interview-at-Universal-Studios-1320-Hours

LE: Do you have those itemized bills for...

Casey: Uh-huh (affirmative). I printed off the ones for July.

LE: Did you give 'em to Yuri?

Casey: Uh-huh (affirmative).

LE: Okay.

Casey: We did last night. Actually I put them on a zip drive for him. I gave him my zip drive that has pictures.

LE: Okay.

Casey: And it has two different word documents one has my text messages, when they sent to what number.

LE: Uh-huh (affirmative).

Casey: And ones that I received. It didn't show the actually message itself. But at least showed texts were sent at this time to such and such number.


Cindy can rest easy. Yuri has Casey's zip drive. :tonguewag:

jmo

[Pruddennce]

<crossing my fingers Pru that he won't be> heck, I thought he'd lost it during the Peterson West trial...omg!

and what's the word on "Koby"- the Dr. that NG used to always have on, then cut her ties w/ him when he aligned himself w/ the defense- is he still in the mix?

seems like Koby is hiding out....in the wind...lol

during this interview: HE IS A PAID CONSULTANT on the team: Nancy and Koby having a nice chat: Caylee's body hasnt been found yet.....

http://www.wftv.com/video/18185480/index.html

-heading into December.......here is K:

pizza and the smell: doesnt make any sense he says :D

he says: sounds to me like decomposition of an animal or human being.....

IMO

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence.....*

[KittyMom]

bolding mine... What is the importance of the lanyard and zip drive? Cindy mentioned it several times.

Cindy has repeatedly said Casey was not alone at any time after they made the 911 call to LE, BUT Lee said otherwise.... pages 47 - 48 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540065.pdf

Lee Anthony: Casey had uhm, uh, uh, advised me on the 15th while I was waiting to fill out my statement before I could go to Tony's house to pick up Casey's stuff. I was in the garage because they had separated my folks from my sister. I sat in the garage with my sister.

EE: With the car right?

Lee Anthony: With the car right there. And it was atrocious.

EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).

Lee Anthony: Uhm, I couldn't be there any more for a minute or two and I had to keep going back inside because the smell was so bad......

If Lee and Casey were in the garage and Lee kept leaving, who did that leave alone in the garage? Did Cindy search all those tubs, boxes and shelving in the garage looking for the lanyard and zip drive? Did she find it? Why is Cindy so stuck on what happened to the lanyard and the zip drive?

jmo

IMO, Lee helped little sissy out by making those items disappear along with the harddrive on that laptop he went to pick up.

[crimeq]

from what I recall- it didn't appear that there was any actual posting on the case itself, nor mention of Caylee either,

but I didn't study 'em too hard.

:smile:

btw- anyone know if the audio tapes have been transcribed anywhere yet? tia

Post, there's a really good "play-by-play" descripiton of the tapes at the "other" site--not word-for-word transcripts, but very good representations of what was said. They were very useful for me to understand Cindy's taped lunch (LOL) and Tracy's tape too--she laughed so much, I didn't always get her full points.

[msgatorslayer]

I found it! I found it! I found the Zip Drive!

Cindy can rest easy. Yuri has Casey's zip drive. :tonguewag:

jmo

SNIPPED

:lol: Quick, print it out and send it to Cindy so she can rest easier, lol.

[crimeq]

But it's all KRAP! I just looked through the pics again and it made me feel claustrophobic. Look how packed to the rafters it was when Casey was there. Where the heck are they putting Lee, Mallory, and the Milstead's and all *their* KRAP? Surely they didn't throw away all of Casey and Caylee's tuff. :confused:

Mind-boggling, isn't it, Lavinia? There wasn't one square inch of unused space on a countertop, dresser top, floor, corner, NOWHERE.

It made me feel claustrophobic too.

[KittyMom]

I found it! I found it! I found the Zip Drive!





Cindy can rest easy. Yuri has Casey's zip drive. :tonguewag:

jmo

Woman, you deserve a gold star! :thumbsup:

[msgatorslayer]

We've never seen pics of her ordinary life, shopping for groceries or clothes (and she's sure got some new ones).

We haven't really heard of any shopping at all except with the infamous JCP card.

She gets/got around, IMO.

[frances1]

Mind-boggling, isn't it, Lavinia? There wasn't one square inch of unused space on a countertop, dresser top, floor, corner, NOWHERE.

It made me feel claustrophobic too.

CrimeQ, I can't look at those photos without thinking of 'Designed to Sell' or other HGTV shows. The real estate expert would be horrified!!!

[101Spots]

I found it! I found it! I found the Zip Drive!

LE and Casey are discussing her cell phone records beginning on page 60 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036055/2008-0716-Casey-Anthony-Police-Interview-at-Universal-Studios-1320-Hours

LE: Do you have those itemized bills for...

Casey: Uh-huh (affirmative). I printed off the ones for July.

LE: Did you give 'em to Yuri?

Casey: Uh-huh (affirmative).

LE: Okay.

Casey: We did last night. Actually I put them on a zip drive for him. I gave him my zip drive that has pictures.

LE: Okay.

Casey: And it has two different word documents one has my text messages, when they sent to what number.

LE: Uh-huh (affirmative).

Casey: And ones that I received. It didn't show the actually message itself. But at least showed texts were sent at this time to such and such number.


Cindy can rest easy. Yuri has Casey's zip drive. :tonguewag:

jmo

Butbutbutbut...... he didn't give it to Cindy. She's in charge, doncha know?

<standing ovation smilie for Desmom on finding this!!!>

[desmom]

SNIPPED

:lol: Quick, print it out and send it to Cindy so she can rest easier, lol.

Woman, you deserve a gold star! :thumbsup:


:seeya:

Your granddaughter's missing and you are concerned about your daughter's (aka POI) missing lanyard and zip drive?

I bet Cindy knew Yuri had the zip drive when she complained to Cmdr. Irwin about it. She worked real hard during that luncheon meeting to point out how Yuri had mistreated her and the family.

jmo

ETA ~ I didn't know anyone still used zip drives.

[AbbyNormal]

George's reaction in this interview is very interesting. He was telling the interviewer what a great help Josh Ducket had been. The FBI guy says something like, "unlike the Ducket case, the answers (to Caylee being missing) are VERY NEAR BY".

Watch George's reaction. With the volume all the way up, I can hear George echo those words, very near by.

His body language looks like he knows where Caylee is.......jmo

http://www.wftv.com/video/18035029/index.html
(part 7, 8:20 mark)

[AbbyNormal]

I found it! I found it! I found the Zip Drive!

LE and Casey are discussing her cell phone records beginning on page 60 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036055/2008-0716-Casey-Anthony-Police-Interview-at-Universal-Studios-1320-Hours

LE: Do you have those itemized bills for...

Casey: Uh-huh (affirmative). I printed off the ones for July.

LE: Did you give 'em to Yuri?

Casey: Uh-huh (affirmative).

LE: Okay.

Casey: We did last night. Actually I put them on a zip drive for him. I gave him my zip drive that has pictures.

LE: Okay.

Casey: And it has two different word documents one has my text messages, when they sent to what number.

LE: Uh-huh (affirmative).

Casey: And ones that I received. It didn't show the actually message itself. But at least showed texts were sent at this time to such and such number.


Cindy can rest easy. Yuri has Casey's zip drive. :tonguewag:

jmo:loveeyes:

Don't know how you do what you do, but sure glad you use your powers for good!

[101Spots]

:seeya:

Your granddaughter's missing and you are concerned about your daughter's (aka POI) missing lanyard and zip drive?

I bet Cindy knew Yuri had the zip drive when she complained to Cmdr. Irwin about it. She worked real hard during that luncheon meeting to point out how Yuri had mistreated her and the family.

jmo

ETA ~ I didn't know anyone still used zip drives.

I believe they are referring to a keychain drive - a teeny drive you can carry around easily. I have one that's about 2.1 x 0.5 in. Nice to transfer files.

[desmom]

George's reaction in this interview is very interesting. He was telling the interviewer what a great help Josh Ducket had been. The FBI guy says something like, "unlike the Ducket case, the answers (to Caylee being missing) are VERY NEAR BY".

Watch George's reaction. With the volume all the way up, I can hear George echo those words, very near by.

His body language looks like he knows where Caylee is.......jmo

http://www.wftv.com/video/18035029/index.html
(part 7, 8:20 mark)

I heard it too. :scared:

[msgatorslayer]

I heard it too. :scared:

Make that 3! :scared:

He can talk the talk but it's clear that he's not stupid and knows that Casey was involved. I don't know that he wants to go as far as thinking Casey caused Caylee's death, but he knows the answers are with her.

He has been, and remains the weakest link in this family!

ETA Been meaning to tell ya I like your siggy!

[crimeq]

I so agree with you on her looks/ I just thought when I saw her the other day on tv that she had gone way down hill in her appearance. I did not notice any makeup at all and her hair looked greasy to me. I am not in any way trying to be mean here, but I looked at the other pics o fher in past courtroom appearances and boy she sure looked bad compared to her eairlier trips to court. No to mention I think she was really tearing up, in the past I thought she was faking it.

I think she finally "got" that she's never going anywhere, again, and I think that's courtesy of AndreaL.

[crimeq]

bolding mine... What is the importance of the lanyard and zip drive? Cindy mentioned it several times.

Cindy has repeatedly said Casey was not alone at any time after they made the 911 call to LE, BUT Lee said otherwise.... pages 47 - 48 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540065.pdf

Lee Anthony: Casey had uhm, uh, uh, advised me on the 15th while I was waiting to fill out my statement before I could go to Tony's house to pick up Casey's stuff. I was in the garage because they had separated my folks from my sister. I sat in the garage with my sister.

EE: With the car right?

Lee Anthony: With the car right there. And it was atrocious.

EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).

Lee Anthony: Uhm, I couldn't be there any more for a minute or two and I had to keep going back inside because the smell was so bad......

If Lee and Casey were in the garage and Lee kept leaving, who did that leave alone in the garage? Did Cindy search all those tubs, boxes and shelving in the garage looking for the lanyard and zip drive? Did she find it? Why is Cindy so stuck on what happened to the lanyard and the zip drive?

jmo

I think it may be as simple as Cindy trying to discredit LE, stating that they took something and didn't return it.

Anything that would have been on the FLASH (not zip, Cindy didn't know the difference) drive or lanyard would already have been seen by LE at that point, so it couldn't be something she didn't want them to see.

[crimeq]

bolding mine... What is the importance of the lanyard and zip drive? Cindy mentioned it several times.

Cindy has repeatedly said Casey was not alone at any time after they made the 911 call to LE, BUT Lee said otherwise.... pages 47 - 48 http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540065.pdf

Lee Anthony: Casey had uhm, uh, uh, advised me on the 15th while I was waiting to fill out my statement before I could go to Tony's house to pick up Casey's stuff. I was in the garage because they had separated my folks from my sister. I sat in the garage with my sister.

EE: With the car right?

Lee Anthony: With the car right there. And it was atrocious.

EE: Uh-hum (affirmative).

Lee Anthony: Uhm, I couldn't be there any more for a minute or two and I had to keep going back inside because the smell was so bad......

If Lee and Casey were in the garage and Lee kept leaving, who did that leave alone in the garage? Did Cindy search all those tubs, boxes and shelving in the garage looking for the lanyard and zip drive? Did she find it? Why is Cindy so stuck on what happened to the lanyard and the zip drive?

jmo

Wow, can you imagine Casey sitting in the garage with the car and decomp odor! I wonder if LE specifically directed Lee and Casey to the GARAGE to wait their turn, hoping it might make her crack.

She's one tough cookie.

[crimeq]

I thought it was a stroke of genius to put the OC and lee into that garage, where she had to inhale the decomposition odor of the daughter she murdered.

I bet that was done on purpose, by the investigative officers.

GMTA, I just said the same thing! :beer:

[desmom]

Make that 3! :scared:

He can talk the talk but it's clear that he's not stupid and knows that Casey was involved. I don't know that he wants to go as far as thinking Casey caused Caylee's death, but he knows the answers are with her.

He has been, and remains the weakest link in this family!

ETA Been meaning to tell ya I like your siggy!
11:35 http://www.wftv.com/video/18035029/index.html


Is George feeling LE out about a deal when he said:

"My daughter knows something. She is being coached that is not what I want to say...she won't say anything. She is being told this is your rights, this is what you should do, this is what you can do."

The FBI agent stops him and explains he does not want to know anything discussed with JB.

"If my daughter knew something, I am sure this attorney and or the sheriff's department and or even you guys, could come to the conclusion if she gives us this, this and this, we will drop this or we will get away from that. I know my daughter is facing some tough stuff. I understand that...."

[Sun]

I found it! I found it! I found the Zip Drive!

LE and Casey are discussing her cell phone records beginning on page 60 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036055/2008-0716-Casey-Anthony-Police-Interview-at-Universal-Studios-1320-Hours

LE: Do you have those itemized bills for...

Casey: Uh-huh (affirmative). I printed off the ones for July.

LE: Did you give 'em to Yuri?

Casey: Uh-huh (affirmative).

LE: Okay.

Casey: We did last night. Actually I put them on a zip drive for him. I gave him my zip drive that has pictures.

LE: Okay.

Casey: And it has two different word documents one has my text messages, when they sent to what number.

LE: Uh-huh (affirmative).

Casey: And ones that I received. It didn't show the actually message itself. But at least showed texts were sent at this time to such and such number.


Cindy can rest easy. Yuri has Casey's zip drive. :tonguewag:

jmo

Ah, so Cindy could have been concerned about the zip drive, because of the pictures that could be on it. IMO, Cindy wanted those pics.

[crimeq]

I found it! I found it! I found the Zip Drive!

LE and Casey are discussing her cell phone records beginning on page 60 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/6036055/2008-0716-Casey-Anthony-Police-Interview-at-Universal-Studios-1320-Hours

LE: Do you have those itemized bills for...

Casey: Uh-huh (affirmative). I printed off the ones for July.

LE: Did you give 'em to Yuri?

Casey: Uh-huh (affirmative).

LE: Okay.

Casey: We did last night. Actually I put them on a zip drive for him. I gave him my zip drive that has pictures.

LE: Okay.

Casey: And it has two different word documents one has my text messages, when they sent to what number.

LE: Uh-huh (affirmative).

Casey: And ones that I received. It didn't show the actually message itself. But at least showed texts were sent at this time to such and such number.


Cindy can rest easy. Yuri has Casey's zip drive. :tonguewag:

jmo

More great work Des! Thanks. Someone should let Cindy know so she stops worrying.

[crimeq]

Hi crimeq,

all I can offer is a link from, how it seems, a private website. There is an
interview in there with an ex-inmate and he speaks about that.
Don´t know if this site is valuable though. :shrug:

www.theocjail.com/inmate1-presentencing.php

LL

Thanks Lucky. It certainly would explain the tacky, mismatched clothes she's worn.

It must just kill her to dress like that for her "reality show" cameras and audience, LOL.

[Scampi]

11:35 http://www.wftv.com/video/18035029/index.html


Is George feeling LE out about a deal when he said:

"My daughter knows something. She is being coached that is not what I want to say...she won't say anything. She is being told this is your rights, this is what you should do, this is what you can do."

The FBI agent stops him and explains he does not want to know anything discussed with JB.

"If my daughter knew something, I am sure this attorney and or the sheriff's department and or even you guys, could come to the conclusion if she gives us this, this and this, we will drop this or we will get away from that. I know my daughter is facing some tough stuff. I understand that...."


I believe there is some truth to this Des. Remember when both cindy and george descended on casey when jose was out of town, in NY doing the Today Show? George was pressuring casey then to speak to Sheriff Beary, writing the note to him and also to the FBI, irrc. They did not trust jose at that point in time.

IMO, they were correct, because had she coughed up an accident scenario then and disclosed where the remains were thown away, she would not be facing death now.

[crimeq]

:seeya:

Your granddaughter's missing and you are concerned about your daughter's (aka POI) missing lanyard and zip drive?

I bet Cindy knew Yuri had the zip drive when she complained to Cmdr. Irwin about it. She worked real hard during that luncheon meeting to point out how Yuri had mistreated her and the family.

jmo

ETA ~ I didn't know anyone still used zip drives.

They don't. She was talking about a flash/thumb drive.

[AnniePie]

We've never seen pics of her ordinary life, shopping for groceries or clothes (and she's sure got some new ones).

We haven't really heard of any shopping at all except with the infamous JCP card.

You know those black plastic glasses with attached noses and moustachios? I'm sure they wear those when they go out to shop and do their errands, so unfortunate FLaBs like us don't recognize them. :smile:

What would you do if you ran into them while you were out and about?

[crimeq]

You know those black plastic glasses with attached noses and moustachios? I'm sure they wear those when they go out to shop and do their errands, so unfortunate FLaBs like us don't recognize them. :smile:

What would you do if you ran into them while you were out and about?

LOL Annie, I'm sure you're right! And we know they have at least one set of those glasses, because there was a pic of Caylee wearing it in the last doc dump :-(

Think how many shopping trips it would take just to purchase the sheer number of sunglasses in that house! (With all those sunglasses, why do you think Casey thought she needed to get the new white pair, with Amy's money?).

[Deannalynn]

Wow, can you imagine Casey sitting in the garage with the car and decomp odor! I wonder if LE specifically directed Lee and Casey to the GARAGE to wait their turn, hoping it might make her crack.

She's one tough cookie.

LE has probably tried everything with Casey to get her to break her lies or silence. They have most likely tried to be really nice and compassionate in the beginning to get her to come clean and tell them the truth. Then, I think they got pizzed and gave her a really hard time.
Casey just sat there like she didn't comprehend.
I imagine they probably wanted to slap it out of her numerous times.

[msgatorslayer]

You know those black plastic glasses with attached noses and moustachios? I'm sure they wear those when they go out to shop and do their errands, so unfortunate FLaBs like us don't recognize them. :smile:

What would you do if you ran into them while you were out and about?

As a true, FLB, I'd ask if they wanted to do lunch. I know a great pizza parlor down the street.:wink:

[Deannalynn]

Because they keep dragging the trial around and putting it off on and on for years in the future, I'd say if and when Casey gets around to be convicted, she'll get 60 plus years behind bars with 15 years knocked off for all the time she's been in jail awaiting trial.

To me, she's already in prison. :tongueside:

Remember how long it took them to get Phil Spector to trial.
I hope this does not turn out this way. Looks like Strickland won't allow that to happen...:thumbdown:

[AnniePie]

George's reaction in this interview is very interesting. He was telling the interviewer what a great help Josh Ducket had been. The FBI guy says something like, "unlike the Ducket case, the answers (to Caylee being missing) are VERY NEAR BY".

Watch George's reaction. With the volume all the way up, I can hear George echo those words, very near by.

His body language looks like he knows where Caylee is.......jmo

http://www.wftv.com/video/18035029/index.html
(part 7, 8:20 mark)

Wow, good catch Abby. George is one nervous man in that vid, and his body language reveals a lot!

[AnniePie]

LOL Annie, I'm sure you're right! And we know they have at least one set of those glasses, because there was a pic of Caylee wearing it in the last doc dump :-(

Think how many shopping trips it would take just to purchase the sheer number of sunglasses in that house! (With all those sunglasses, why do you think Casey thought she needed to get the new white pair, with Amy's money?).

Because none of her old ones were NEW enough... or BIG enough... or WHITE enough? :rolleyes:

[Bala]

Wow, can you imagine Casey sitting in the garage with the car and decomp odor! I wonder if LE specifically directed Lee and Casey to the GARAGE to wait their turn, hoping it might make her crack.

She's one tough cookie.
They should have kept her locked on there until she told them where Caylee was and what she had done to her.

[desmom]

Two Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Civil Case
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html

Tuesday, (9/8/2009 - 10:00 AM) - Anthony's lawyers will file a renewed motion to get the complaint dismissed or delayed until Anthony's death penalty case is over.

Wednesday, (9/9/2009 - 15:15 PM) - Zenaida's attorneys will attempt to get Cindy and George Anthony to answer more questions.

Dates and Times per http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/

[seeing_eye]

Hi crimeq,

all I can offer is a link from, how it seems, a private website. There is an
interview in there with an ex-inmate and he speaks about that.
Don´t know if this site is valuable though. :shrug:

www.theocjail.com/inmate1-presentencing.php

LL

This website is about the Orange County jail in California. I'm sure the one in Florida is different. I'm pretty sure the one in FL does not require they wear clothing only provided by the jail because one hearing at least someone else brought her clothes to wear. Not sure if it was Jose or Cindy, but whoever it was, they tried to smuggle in a bracelet to Casey.

[happygert]

Originally Posted by Lavinia
But it's all KRAP! I just looked through the pics again and it made me feel claustrophobic. Look how packed to the rafters it was when Casey was there. Where the heck are they putting Lee, Mallory, and the Milstead's and all *their* KRAP? Surely they didn't throw away all of Casey and Caylee's tuff.



Lavinia.. nothing of Caylee's that the A's can sell will ever be tossed out..I look for casey's stuff to end up on e-bay before it's all over..

[happygert]

Two Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Civil Case
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html

Tuesday, (9/8/2009 - 10:00 AM) - Anthony's lawyers will file a renewed motion to get the complaint dismissed or delayed until Anthony's death penalty case is over.

Wednesday, (9/9/2009 - 15:15 PM) - Zenaida's attorneys will attempt to get Cindy and George Anthony to answer more questions.

Dates and Times per http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/

Hope the Judge says I've made my decision and the pretrial hearing are this day and trial set for this day be ready.. and If AL pops up and says your honor I can only be here on Thursdays. and Fridays. because of my teaching a class.. and the Judge says with all due respect this is not a DP case miss lyon's its a fraud case and if you cant attend I'm sure your co counsel are perfectly capable of defending a fraud case... That would be the highlight of the week.. I know don't wake me up I can dream.....lol..

[Bala]

Hope the Judge says I've made my decision and the pretrial hearing are this day and trial set for this day be ready.. and If AL pops up and says your honor I can only be here on Thursdays. and Fridays. because of my teaching a class.. and the Judge says with all due respect this is not a DP case miss lyon's its a fraud case and if you cant attend I'm sure your co counsel are perfectly capable of defending a fraud case... That would be the highlight of the week.. I know don't wake me up I can dream.....lol..
These are dates for motions in the civil case to compel the A's to answer Morgan's questions. I hope after all the nasty remarks the A's and BC and Baez made about them not being real deposition the judge tells them a thing or two about who's running his court room and hold both the A's in contempt.

[Sun]

Two Hearings Scheduled In Anthony Civil Case
http://www.wesh.com/news/20773704/detail.html

Tuesday, (9/8/2009 - 10:00 AM) - Anthony's lawyers will file a renewed motion to get the complaint dismissed or delayed until Anthony's death penalty case is over.

Wednesday, (9/9/2009 - 15:15 PM) - Zenaida's attorneys will attempt to get Cindy and George Anthony to answer more questions.

Dates and Times per http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/

Thanks desmom for posting these court hearing times/dates. It has been such a long time since the Civil Case was in the spotlight. I am still amazed that Casey has not yet dropped her countersuit against ZG. I hope that Judge Rodriguez will make his ruling in the courtroom, and not make us wait for days to hear his ruling on the dismiss/stay motion.

Does anyone think that George and Cindy will appear at the court hearing on Wednesday? Or will they just send Conway, and stay home like they did earlier on when they sent him to argue that they were "too fragile" to sit for their depos?

[desmom]

Casey Anthony: Will George, Cindy be forced to answer questions?
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-will-george-cindy-be-forced-to-answer-questions.html

"WESH 2 has learned that Gonzalez's lawyers seriously considered suing Cindy Anthony for allegedly repeating libelous statements against Gonzalez that she knew were incorrect. For now they have decided against that course of action."

[desmom]

Casey Anthony lawyer takes on another high-profile case
http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/09/casey-anthony-lawyer-takes-on.html

Todd Macaluso is representing NFL star Shawne Merriman.

[crimeq]

As a true, FLB, I'd ask if they wanted to do lunch. I know a great pizza parlor down the street.:wink:

:lol::lol:

[crimeq]

This website is about the Orange County jail in California. I'm sure the one in Florida is different. I'm pretty sure the one in FL does not require they wear clothing only provided by the jail because one hearing at least someone else brought her clothes to wear. Not sure if it was Jose or Cindy, but whoever it was, they tried to smuggle in a bracelet to Casey.

That's right, I remember -- seemed to be that Cindy put it into something without Jose's knowledge, and Jose carried it in.

Well, that shoots THAT theory. So who is dressing Fashionista Casey for her "reality show" shoots?

Somebody really hates her.

[Bala]

Casey Anthony: Will George, Cindy be forced to answer questions?
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-will-george-cindy-be-forced-to-answer-questions.html

"WESH 2 has learned that Gonzalez's lawyers seriously considered suing Cindy Anthony for allegedly repeating libelous statements against Gonzalez that she knew were incorrect. For now they have decided against that course of action."
I say bring it on and sue for all they have. See who's a 10 then.

[crimeq]

Casey Anthony: Will George, Cindy be forced to answer questions?
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-will-george-cindy-be-forced-to-answer-questions.html

"WESH 2 has learned that Gonzalez's lawyers seriously considered suing Cindy Anthony for allegedly repeating libelous statements against Gonzalez that she knew were incorrect. For now they have decided against that course of action."

I hope they reconsider. A sentence in the article: "Hmm, doesn't that sound like a warning to Cindy?"

[desmom]

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Hi. I havnt been here in a good while.......but can u tell me who AndreaL is, please? TIA

Andrea Lyon is Casey's death penalty attorney.

http://www.andrealyon.com/

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/orl-casey-anthony-andrea-lyon-052809,0,3393018.story

[Julie Dupree]

I believe there is some truth to this Des. Remember when both cindy and george descended on casey when jose was out of town, in NY doing the Today Show? George was pressuring casey then to speak to Sheriff Beary, writing the note to him and also to the FBI, irrc. They did not trust jose at that point in time.

IMO, they were correct, because had she coughed up an accident scenario then and disclosed where the remains were thown away, she would not be facing death now.


Wasn't it about this same time that Lee told her if she wanted to get another lawyer she could?

[happygert]

These are dates for motions in the civil case to compel the A's to answer Morgan's questions. I hope after all the nasty remarks the A's and BC and Baez made about them not being real deposition the judge tells them a thing or two about who's running his court room and hold both the A's in contempt.

Sorry I thought one was in front of Judge Strickland .. I thought al filed a motion about not being enough evidence in the murder trial. also thought they might have file a motion for the Judge to reconsider the check fraud case until after the murder trial.. . so sorry.. dang this flu has me all messed up... so sorry again...

[frances1]

Casey Anthony: Will George, Cindy be forced to answer questions?
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-will-george-cindy-be-forced-to-answer-questions.html

"WESH 2 has learned that Gonzalez's lawyers seriously considered suing Cindy Anthony for allegedly repeating libelous statements against Gonzalez that she knew were incorrect. For now they have decided against that course of action."

Bolded by me. I like the wording of that last sentence.

[Bala]

Wasn't it about this same time that Lee told her if she wanted to get another lawyer she could?
I truly believe that is why Baez cut off all contact with her family. He knew they wanted him gone.

[101Spots]

Interesting profile of Casey. Ignore if you've seen this before.

A bit tough to slog through, but worth it.

Casey Anthony (http://crimsonshadows.net/content/view/168/140/)

(For the faint of heart, skip to page 2 and read the Results.)

[happygert]

I hope they reconsider. A sentence in the article: "Hmm, doesn't that sound like a warning to Cindy?"

I hope they do and take every dime they have made off of Caylee. They also said it was ZFG who took Caylee they ran with that lie all over National TV......that would be a fitting end to this mess they all created...

[Julie Dupree]

Thanks desmom for posting these court hearing times/dates. It has been such a long time since the Civil Case was in the spotlight. I am still amazed that Casey has not yet dropped her countersuit against ZG. I hope that Judge Rodriguez will make his ruling in the courtroom, and not make us wait for days to hear his ruling on the dismiss/stay motion.

Does anyone think that George and Cindy will appear at the court hearing on Wednesday? Or will they just send Conway, and stay home like they did earlier on when they sent him to argue that they were "too fragile" to sit for their depos?

I think if they never saw John Morgan again they would consider it a win for the Anthony side.
But with Cindy, she may think the judge will throw out the case and she would get to see John Morgan's face when he does.
Who knows what they will do.

[happygert]

I say bring it on and sue for all they have. See who's a 10 then.

I agree.. money sure works wonders just look at the players in this case..then again look at casey with no money sure hurts her appearence her clothes style , hair, make-up.... casey's sure thought she was a 10 but she'd better take another long look in that stainless steel pot of hers..

[really3997]

Casey Anthony: Will George, Cindy be forced to answer questions?
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-will-george-cindy-be-forced-to-answer-questions.html

"WESH 2 has learned that Gonzalez's lawyers seriously considered suing Cindy Anthony for allegedly repeating libelous statements against Gonzalez that she knew were incorrect. For now they have decided against that course of action."

I think Christmas is coming early. That is beyond a warning. Cindy better get herself in check Morgan and Morgan aren't playing. JMO

[Bala]

Here's something that might get Cindy's attention. When OJ Simpson lost his civil suit the Goldman's and the Brown won the right to use his name for profit and he lost the right. If ZFG was to win a civil suit she she obtain the rights to Casey and Caylee's name for future earning stopping the A's from making any more money off Caylee drying up the gravy train for them. This would mean they couldn't even continue the foundation without ZFG permission.

[happygert]

I think Christmas is coming early. That is beyond a warning. Cindy better get herself in check Morgan and Morgan aren't playing. JMO

really, I hope so.. Its time to put cindy in her place .....let her know she cant do what ever she wants and get by with it..She's not above the laws that we are.

[happygert]

Here's something that might get Cindy's attention. When OJ Simpson lost his civil suit the Goldman's and the Brown won the right to use his name for profit and he lost the right. If ZFG was to win a civil suit she she obtain the rights to Casey and Caylee's name for future earning stopping the A's from making any more money off Caylee drying up the gravy train for them. This would mean they couldn't even continue the foundation without ZFG permission.

Oh that would be great..ZFG stop them in their tracks...I can only pray that happens... then the A's wil be singing I OWE. I OWE. OFF to WORK WE GO......

[Julie Dupree]

Interesting profile of Casey. Ignore if you've seen this before.

A bit tough to slog through, but worth it.

Casey Anthony (http://crimsonshadows.net/content/view/168/140/)

(For the faint of heart, skip to page 2 and read the Results.)

WOW!!!
That is a pretty good analysis of her.
I remember that Judge Strickland ordered her to be seen by 2 psychologist (I think it was at her bond hearing).
I wonder if their findings were similar to this persons since they got to speak with her and the author of this one did not.

[really3997]

Here's something that might get Cindy's attention. When OJ Simpson lost his civil suit the Goldman's and the Brown won the right to use his name for profit and he lost the right. If ZFG was to win a civil suit she she obtain the rights to Casey and Caylee's name for future earning stopping the A's from making any more money off Caylee drying up the gravy train for them. This would mean they couldn't even continue the foundation without ZFG permission.

:thumbsup:Fantastick that would REALLY be fun to watch. JMO(but I am sure I am not alone)

[Deannalynn]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEhr2dq_sPI

I don't remember seeing all of this. Just bits and pieces..

I love the comment "yeah, what my mom said" But I don't remember Cindy's comment of who watched Caylee when Casey went out.

First time for me on this one.
WOW..These woman came by to give her lip service and Cindy was right in their face. She was probably hoping they would smack her.
These woman and getting their children involved is not a good Idea.
That one little boy got his arm caught in the door. That was not a good Idea. Somebody always gets hurt and it's usually someone not involved.

Cindy likes chaos. If she didn't she would have went right into the house and ignored them. That would have bothered them more. But nooooo, not Cindy. She has to show she's in control at all times.

[really3997]

First time for me on this one.
WOW..These woman came by to give her lip service and Cindy was right in their face. She was probably hoping they would smack her.
These woman and getting their children involved is not a good Idea.
That one little boy got his arm caught in the door. That was not a good Idea. Somebody always gets hurt and it's usually someone not involved.

Cindy likes chaos. If she didn't she would have went right into the house and ignored them. That would have bothered them more. But nooooo, not Cindy. She has to show she's in control at all times.

There was a lot of issues with child services on that one. But I love that kid.. Yeah what my mom said...oh and Don't think I dont know what beer is.That kid cracks me up. Did you catch the I watched Caylee when Casey went out. there was no mention of the nanny.

[Julie Dupree]

I think Christmas is coming early. That is beyond a warning. Cindy better get herself in check Morgan and Morgan aren't playing. JMO

I get the impression this is just the sort of thing John Morgan likes to get involved with. I think he actually enjoys helping the underdog even if it will not be financially beneficial for him. I don't think he takes many of these cases, but I think the ones he does take, he does it because he believes they have a good case.
Plus, I think he does not like to be treated like Cindy treated him.

[happygert]

:thumbsup:Fantastick that would REALLY be fun to watch. JMO(but I am sure I am not alone)

no you're not alone

[jose]

As a true, FLB, I'd ask if they wanted to do lunch. I know a great pizza parlor down the street.:wink:

How about...Cindy, I'll buy you a muffin, to match your head.hammer

[AnniePie]

Casey Anthony: Will George, Cindy be forced to answer questions?
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/09/casey-anthony-will-george-cindy-be-forced-to-answer-questions.html

"WESH 2 has learned that Gonzalez's lawyers seriously considered suing Cindy Anthony for allegedly repeating libelous statements against Gonzalez that she knew were incorrect. For now they have decided against that course of action."

For now. Run Cindy! Run! :w00t:

[Pruddennce]

WOW!!!
That is a pretty good analysis of her.
I remember that Judge Strickland ordered her to be seen by 2 psychologist (I think it was at her bond hearing).
I wonder if their findings were similar to this persons since they got to speak with her and the author of this one did not.

You are correct Julie:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2008/images/07/23/080723revisedanthonyorder.pdf

and desmom is the best for providing links :)

best regards,
Pru

*waiting on maggot evidence....*

[AnniePie]

Here's something that might get Cindy's attention. When OJ Simpson lost his civil suit the Goldman's and the Brown won the right to use his name for profit and he lost the right. If ZFG was to win a civil suit she she obtain the rights to Casey and Caylee's name for future earning stopping the A's from making any more money off Caylee drying up the gravy train for them. This would mean they couldn't even continue the foundation without ZFG permission.

Oh Bala, from your fingertips to God's ears!!

[AnniePie]

How about...Cindy, I'll buy you a muffin, to match your head.hammer

:laugh: You bad, Jose!

[seeing_eye]

That's right, I remember -- seemed to be that Cindy put it into something without Jose's knowledge, and Jose carried it in.

Well, that shoots THAT theory. So who is dressing Fashionista Casey for her "reality show" shoots?

Somebody really hates her.

Well, if it's somebody who really hates her, then it's gotta be Cindy!!

[Deannalynn]

There was a lot of issues with child services on that one. But I love that kid.. Yeah what my mom said...oh and Don't think I dont know what beer is.That kid cracks me up. Did you catch the I watched Caylee when Casey went out. there was no mention of the nanny.

Yeah Really, I heard that. The little boy kept saying something about "Bringing the baby out"
These protesters are livid. I seen a still pic of someone grabbing George by his T-shirt and it was ripping. Do we have a video of the incident. These folks are Whooooo MAD!
And...This was all don't before they found little Caylee's remains.:unsure:

[happygert]

:thumbsup:Fantastick that would REALLY be fun to watch. JMO(but I am sure I am not alone)

really, have you seen any activity at the A's house today? Just wondering if they will skip hearing in am and if bc will also be mia or maybe have a backache...

[cassidy]

Yeah Really, I heard that. The little boy kept saying something about "Bringing the baby out"
These protesters are livid. I seen a still pic of someone grabbing George by his T-shirt and it was ripping. Do we have a video of the incident. These folks are Whooooo MAD!
And...This was all don't before they found little Caylee's remains.:unsure:

And to think we all watched it live on the webcam. The protesters got out of line from time to time but Cindy and George did a stellar job of playing right into their hands. There was fault on both sides.

JMO

[Deannalynn]

really, have you seen any activity at the A's house today? Just wondering if they will skip hearing in am and if bc will also be mia or maybe have a backache...

I seriously doubt he will try and pull that one off again...:biggrin:

The Anthony's are not compelled to show up tomorrow are they. I have a feeling they will. Cindy has to have her nose right up Conway's behind.

I read that M&M want to ask the Anthony more questions.
I thought they finished their depositions two weeks ago. What happened.:confused:

[happygert]

I seriously doubt he will try and pull that one off again...:biggrin:

The Anthony's are not compelled to show up tomorrow are they. I have a feeling they will. Cindy has to have her nose right up Conway's behind.

I read that M&M want to ask the Anthony more questions.
I thought they finished their depositions two weeks ago. What happened.:confused:

That was the States Depos..for the murder case

[really3997]

really, have you seen any activity at the A's house today? Just wondering if they will skip hearing in am and if bc will also be mia or maybe have a backache...

As far as I can tell they are still not home. time will tell

[Deannalynn]

And to think we all watched it live on the webcam. The protesters got out of line from time to time but Cindy and George did a stellar job of playing right into their hands. There was fault on both sides.

JMO

Cindy had to have known the camera's were on them. When have they not been.
Cindy loves the attention. She makes it her job to show how tough she is.
George even told the FBI his wife is tough. She sounded ridiculous when she was responding to them. She kept answering their questions.
How she watched the baby when Casey went out.
Well, Casey had no business going out when she had a little daughter to watch. She had a responsibility when she decided to have that baby. Good thing I was not there. LOL:w00t:
jmo

[bchand]

And to think we all watched it live on the webcam. The protesters got out of line from time to time but Cindy and George did a stellar job of playing right into their hands. There was fault on both sides.

JMO


As I rewatched that video today, all I thought about was this little baby was down the street, decaying, while Cindy was there playing her games with her little hammer.

How sad they didn't force their murderous daughter to tell them where she was.

[Deannalynn]

That was the States Depos..for the murder case

Ohhhh, too many of thems attorney's running these cases. :tonguewag:

[cassidy]

As I rewatched that video today, all I thought about was this little baby was down the street, decaying, while Cindy was there playing her games with her little hammer.

How sad they didn't force their murderous daughter to tell them where she was.

It is sad to go back and watch them knowing what we all know now. :(

[ttcRider]

Cindy had to have known the camera's were on them. When have they not been.
Cindy loves the attention. She makes it her job to show how tough she is.
George even told the FBI his wife is tough. She sounded ridiculous when she was responding to them. She kept answering their questions.
How she watched the baby when Casey went out.
Well, Casey had no business going out when she had a little daughter to watch. She had a responsibility when she decided to have that baby. Good thing I was not there. LOL:w00t:
jmo

I think George gets a kick out of Cindy's aggressive behavior... he even made a point of telling how she was ranging out at the Tow Yard desk. :laugh: He thought it was pretty funny...

[bchand]

Interesting profile of Casey. Ignore if you've seen this before.

A bit tough to slog through, but worth it.

Casey Anthony (http://crimsonshadows.net/content/view/168/140/)

(For the faint of heart, skip to page 2 and read the Results.)

Wow, this part on page 2 was interesting:

Unfortunately, I can imagine quite a few scenarios based on these general factors. Actually, until LE reported evidence of Caylee's death, I suspected an elaborate hoax by the Anthony family to defraud the public for monetary gains. I am still not convinced that it is not such a hoax that somehow got out of hand.

[Deannalynn]

It's going to be interesting when this killer momma goes to prison. She will be like the rest of these famous murder cases. (The killers)
Casey loves attention and she had a different Bo a week practically.

Can you imagine all the mail she will be getting from the nut balls out there wanting to strike up a relationship with her. She'll bite, too.
Wonder if she will get married while she's in prison.:biggrin:
How romantic Casey, a wonderful husband from the outside. She will be safe. The guys parole officer will keep him in check. (Unless of course she has Big Bertha and Lucky Lou Lou catering to her):biggrinjester:
jmo

[summer]

And to think we all watched it live on the webcam. The protesters got out of line from time to time but Cindy and George did a stellar job of playing right into their hands. There was fault on both sides.

JMO

And even more than that, instigated. Always outside with the lawn, the water hose, pounding signs, putting up tape, moving cars. Ready to rumble, poised for action. They seemed energized by each encounter. Tough guys, until someone threw a couple of pennies at the house and then they went screaming for mommy. Disguuuusting.

[nana6]

Here's something that might get Cindy's attention. When OJ Simpson lost his civil suit the Goldman's and the Brown won the right to use his name for profit and he lost the right. If ZFG was to win a civil suit she she obtain the rights to Casey and Caylee's name for future earning stopping the A's from making any more money off Caylee drying up the gravy train for them. This would mean they couldn't even continue the foundation without ZFG permission.

Oh Bala, If only!!!!!

[cassidy]

I think George gets a kick out of Cindy's aggressive behavior... he even made a point of telling how she was ranging out at the Tow Yard desk. :laugh: He thought it was pretty funny...

I'm sure he thought it was amusing when she was chewing out anyone other then him. :w00t:

[ttcRider]

Feels good to be back......damn I hat Band Camp....but I will watch my p's and q's

Howdy everyone

You look well rested my friend. :thumbsup: Welcome back.

[seeing_eye]

And to think we all watched it live on the webcam. The protesters got out of line from time to time but Cindy and George did a stellar job of playing right into their hands. There was fault on both sides.

JMO

Those protesters have almost as much class as Cindy.